Re: [Leaf-user] remote access to dachstein

2002-01-18 Thread Julian Church

Hi All

At 13:35 17/01/02 -0800, Victor McAllisteer wrote:

There was a post here recently from someone who got libz.lrp and sshd.lrp 
to fit on
a single floppy.  He stripped the pretty version of weblet and used one 
without
graphics if I remember correctly.  Unfortunately the search feature does 
not appear
to work on the list so I can't find the message.

That was me actually, and it really isn't that hard.  A standard Dachstein 
1680K floppy has about 275KB of free space anyway, while libz.lrp and 
sshd.lrp total around 330KB - you've only got to find about 55 KB.  Here's 
exactly what I did:

1. In /var/sh-www/, I deleted lrpStat.jar, the weblet's java-based 
bandwidth monitor, and netmon.html, the html document that's used to 
display it.  To keep things neat and tidy, I then opened up index.html and 
edited out the resulting broken link to netmon.html.

2. Then I had a look at the file etc/modules (from lrcfg, menu options 3, 
3, then 1), took notes of the ethernet card modules I'm using, then 
commented out all the ip_masq modules I'm unlikely to use.  Then, in 
lib/modules/, I deleted everything I didn't need.  I notice that the 
ethernet card modules are in general bigger than the ip_masq ones, so get 
rid of the unused ethernet ones first if you're unsure.

3. Then, I backed up.  Weblet.lrp reduced in size from about 67 K to about 
18 K, and modules went from 113 K to about 24 K.  Giving me an extra 138K 
of extra space (that's about 400-odd K in total) which was plenty.  You 
might not get modules to get so small - I was lucky because I didn't need 
many ip_masq modules, and both NIC's in my firewall use the ne.o module 
which is one of the smallest.  Still, I have space to spare so you'll still 
probably have made enough space even if your setup is a fair bit more complex.

4. I still didn't have room for the ssh key generator program, sshkey.lrp, 
on the floppy so had to install it manually after boot.  Once the key is 
generated though, you don't need it any more so there isn't actually much 
point in trying too hard to fit it on the boot floppy in any 
case.  Instructions for this part are at 
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/openssh.html.

If anyone thinks I should flesh this out into a howto, just let me know.

cheers

Julian

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Re: [Leaf-user] Filtering Web content

2002-01-18 Thread Matt Schalit

Pär Johansson wrote:
 
 Hello
 My 8 year old boy is getting verry interested in the internet, but i
 have some considerations (porn etc.) connecting his computer to the
 net.
 Is it possible to add some web filtering to dachstein, can squid or
 some other package do this?
 
 Regards
 
 Pär Johansson


The fundamental nature of the Web is to provide unlimited
access to the entire world's knowledge.  Even Senators have
difficulty with that concept.  

Matthew


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Re: [Leaf-user] Suspicious 'last'

2002-01-18 Thread Matt Schalit

Jon Clausen wrote:
 
 Hi list
 
 I've been monitoring the list for a while now. Seems there are some very
 knowledgeable people here. Originally I was going to ask about some
 vpn-stuff, but then this happened:
 
 Running Dachstein on a three-way box with LAN (192.*.*.*) and DMZ (10.*.*.*),
 at a remote location. Everything seems to work (well pretty much anyway). I
 have web, mail, ftp and ssh forwarded through to dmz-host. As I logged in on
 the dach-box (ssh to dmz-host, and ssh from there to dach-box) last night it
 started the whole 'host unknown, somebody might be eavesdropping, do you want
 to continue?'-thing.
 
 Now this was because I was using a host (on my home lan) that I don't usually
 use for this. So I went to the machine that I *do* use for this, logged in
 (no problem) first to the dmz-box, and then to the dach-box.
 
 I then looked at 'last', and then I got worried:
 
 # last
 USER TTY PID TIMEON  FROM
 reboot   ~   0   22545   2.2.19
 root ttyp0   845 22491   192.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   153221794   UNKNOWN
 root ttyp0   154021791   10.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   155421785   10.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   538512592   10.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   550512518   10.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   682410156   10.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   90465075192.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   10667   157610.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   11313   114010.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   11804   176 10.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   12220   135 10.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   12235   119 10.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   12263   78  10.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   12597   70  10.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   13135   56  10.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   13744   26  10.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   13758   23  10.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   13769   18  10.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   13829   0   10.*.*.*
 
 Looking at the logs, I can see that this UNKNOWN corresponds to a root-login
 yesterday *morning*.
 
 The only other person who has access to these systems, tells me it wasn't
 him...
 
 Now I'm pretty new at this stuff, so I really would appreciate some opinions
 on this... Should I *be* worried, is there a way to check whether stuff has
 been tampered-with?
 
 I'll post further info, as requested/required.
 
 TIA
 
 Sincerely
 
 Jon Clausen



Hey Jon,
  I can't say for sure, but these three look too
similar to be co-inkydinks:

 USER TTY PID TIMEON  FROM
 root ttyp0   153221794   UNKNOWN
 root ttyp0   154021791   10.*.*.*
 root ttyp0   155421785   10.*.*.*


Don't you think there's some similarity?  It difficult
to get those so sequential, wouldn't you think?  Could the
unknown be from a login that didn't finish for some 
innocent reason?

Matt

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[Leaf-user] @home to Cox conversion problems

2002-01-18 Thread Jon Pike

Hello all..

Very long time no talk to...  I've been having a problem with my LRP box 
and my cable service.
Use Cox/@home in the Orange County,  Southern CA area, and it's been 
working fine for 2 years.

We are finally getting ours,  in the Exicte@home demise,  and they have 
changed something,
we're on a whole new IP network now.   And suddenly,  no service..

It seems the handshaking for the DHCP is not the same anymore,  the box 
is offering but nobody is
taking it.  Strangely,  it WILL give an IP to my 98 machine when plugged 
straight to the cable modem, after a couple of days of not even that 
working.  

LRP is Dachstein,  second revision.  Formerly just the host name in 
dhclient was all that was needed.  I now notice on the Win box's config 
info,  that the new network has a 255.255.248.0 subnet mask..  I tried a 
 /21, with no success,  hope that was right since it's nearing 3AM..

 Any ideas on what might be the possible change?

Thanks in advance..

Jon


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Re: [Leaf-user] Speed Survey

2002-01-18 Thread Matt Schalit

Paul Rimmer wrote:
 
 ** Speed 2325(down)/1034(up) kbps **
 ** Speed 2925(down)/947(up) kbps **

 P133 64MB RAM DCDv1.01 with brand new Motorola cable modem (old one was
 definitely slower).

 I'd be curious to see what other cable modem users are getting and what
 their  config is.
 

@home in Petaluma, CA, near the wine country.  

   2400 kbps(down)/128(up) kbps.

The LEAF is a PII 400, 2U Gateway thing, so there's not
going to be any bottleneck there.  He's capped for sure,
because he see's that speed a lot of the time.

--

As far as raw speed goes, I really gave the DSL installers, who
took care of me near San Francisco, the real once over when they
finally got around to my house.  I'm out there by the pole, 
telling them how I'm going to get another three phone lines in a 
two months, so they better run an entirely new trunk from the pole 
to my house (they did, 6 lines, heh).

Then I made them test the heck out of it, and they found they
could get 9000(down)/8000(up) kbps using their testers.
Heck, I could host the LEAF site with that speed :)  But 
unfortunately, I was only paying for 1500/128, so I was
going to be capped by the system.  

I'd never really see that 9000/8000, though, because I doubt 
they'd supply me with a 100 BaseTx dsl modem.  So I figure 
I'd be good for a solid 5000/5000 if I had the $$ to pay for
the service.  I'm 10017 ft ( 3070 meters ) from the central
office.  

Best,
Matthew

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Re: [Leaf-user] @home to Cox conversion problems

2002-01-18 Thread Michael D. Schleif


Jon Pike wrote:
 
 Very long time no talk to...  I've been having a problem with my LRP box
 and my cable service.
 Use Cox/@home in the Orange County,  Southern CA area, and it's been
 working fine for 2 years.
 
 We are finally getting ours,  in the Exicte@home demise,  and they have
 changed something,
 we're on a whole new IP network now.   And suddenly,  no service..
 
 It seems the handshaking for the DHCP is not the same anymore,  the box
 is offering but nobody is
 taking it.  Strangely,  it WILL give an IP to my 98 machine when plugged
 straight to the cable modem, after a couple of days of not even that
 working.
 
 LRP is Dachstein,  second revision.  Formerly just the host name in
 dhclient was all that was needed.  I now notice on the Win box's config
 info,  that the new network has a 255.255.248.0 subnet mask..  I tried a
  /21, with no success,  hope that was right since it's nearing 3AM..
 
  Any ideas on what might be the possible change?

Please, post *all* available information off of the successful win98
box, including everything from winipcfg . . .

-- 

Best Regards,

mds
mds resource
888.250.3987

Dare to fix things before they break . . .

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Re: [Leaf-user] @home to Cox conversion problems

2002-01-18 Thread guitarlynn

On Friday 18 January 2002 09:00, Michael D. Schleif wrote:
  We are finally getting ours,  in the Exicte@home demise,  and they
  have changed something,
  we're on a whole new IP network now.   And suddenly,  no service..
 
  It seems the handshaking for the DHCP is not the same anymore,  the
  box is offering but nobody is
  taking it.  Strangely,  it WILL give an IP to my 98 machine when
  plugged straight to the cable modem, after a couple of days of not
  even that working.

boot up again in Win98 and run winipcfg as Michael suggested. Make
not of the default gateway on you NIC. Before closing winipcfg, you
_must_ Release all then shutdown Win98. Boot up Dachstein and 
enter the default gateway you found in winipcfg to the line in
network.conf that reads DEFAULT_GW= www.xxx.yyy.zzz. Now do a 
svi network reload and things should be better. 

It seems with Excite out of there that Cox@Home is only giving out one
dhcp lease at a time forcing you to release one before getting
another. There has been several cases of this in the last couple of
weeks. The default gateway seems to be more of a regional requirement,
but it wouldn't hurt to enter it in either case.

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Re: [Leaf-user] OT: ipchains

2002-01-18 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

 If you want to take the time to help me out that would be great, but if
not
 that's cool.
 thanks for any help,
 -Alex Fore


 We have two internal DNS servers one internal smtp server, many internal
 webservers.

ipchains commands snipped

Assumptions:
eth0 = internal network = good
eth1 = DMZ = dmz
eth2 = internet = bad

Well, assuming:
- The above interface list is correct
- The shell variables are set correctly
- Your interfaces and routes are configured correctly on the firewall and
all server systems
- and a bunch of other stuff...
(hint...it's important to provide as much detail as possible when asking for
remote help with tricky problems)

I don't notice anything immediately obvious that would be blocking outbound
e-mail and/or dns, so I'll just provide a few general ipchains tricks I've
found useful in debugging firewall problems...

IPChains debugging hints:

ipsec -Lvn --line-numbers is your friend.  Pay special attention to the
packet counts next to the rules...especially when debugging those why
doesn't this protocol work sort of problems.  NOTE:  Flushing all packet
counts and running a test (like trying to send an e-mail) can make this
technique much more powerful, since you can more easily see which rules are
maching the packets of interest.

Use logging!  Adding an ipchains -I rule -l switch to log all traffic
hitting a rule can be very helpful.  While this will fill up your logs
quickly under real loads, it can be invaluable to see packets hitting each
rule, and watching the packet counts increase.  You can also verify things
like a particular packet hit the forward chain, but never made it to the
output chain...

Use deny logging...a slight twist on the above, if all your deny rules log
the packets, you'll see in the logs if you're traffic isn't making it out of
the box.  Combined the rule name and rule number in the log and
the --line-numbers and -v switchs to ipchains, and you can generally deduce
where things went wrong by crawling through the ipchains verbose output.

Good luck!

Charles Steinkuehler
http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)



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Re: [Leaf-user] 2.2.16/tulip/build How?

2002-01-18 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

 I'd suggest upgrading to the 2.2.19 kernel.  You don't have to upgrade
your
 whole distribution to do this...just replace the kernel file on the floppy
 (the file named linux) and the modules in modules.lrp.  You can even cheat
 and start with the files from a Dachstein relese (just make a Dachstein
 floppy, and copy the linux and modules.lrp from it to your existing
 firewall).

 Thanks  for responding.
 Does this mean that the tulip.o  on the 2.2.19 index  supports the 1255tx
card
 from SMC?
 My problem is that 2.2.16 tulip apparently does not.

I don't know for sure, but the tulip driver *is* much newer.  It's even
newer than the 2.2.19 kernel version of the driver, since I compiled all the
drivers maintained by Dan Becker seperately, and replaced the default kernel
versions with the newer ones...

 If so:
 so my existing  dhcp and ipchains and ipsec1.5 should be cool with the
newer
 kernel?

Ouch!  The IPSec will also have to be upgraded, since it talks to code
patched into the kernel.  I'd still recommend upgrading...the new 1.91
version of IPSec is much more friendly than the 1.5 version, and you can
simply copy your ipsec.conf and ipsec.secrets files directly into the new
package...no 'tweaking' required, unless you want to use some of the new
features available in 1.91.

Charles Steinkuehler
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Re: [Leaf-user] OT: ipchains

2002-01-18 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

  ipsec -Lvn --line-numbers is your friend.  Charles Steinkuehler
http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)
Pay special attention to the
^  ^^^
 
 Did you mean `ipchains -nvL --line-numbers' ???  Notice, the `L' cannot
 precede the `nv' . . .

Yes...sorry.




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Re: [Leaf-user] D/DCD busybox gzip/gunzip problem???

2002-01-18 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

 I was wondering if anybody else is, like me, having some problem with the
gzip/gunzip commands
 provided by the busybox currently used on Dachstein...

 I sometimes have problems decompressing (gunzip) files which where packed
by gzip (both being the
 busybox ones).

 I have had this problem mainly with the psentry.lrp package on my pc but I
had it with more than
 one package on one of my friends' pc... On his pc it could have been cause
by a flaky diskette or
 diskette drive since we were using 3 1/2 diskette drive but on mine I'm
using a properly terminated
 and AFAIK without bad sectors SCSI hard disk (which is, most of the time,
write-protected...)...

 I get the following error messages:

 gunzip: invalid compressed data--crc error
 gunzip: invalid compressed data--length error

 But the file is still considered OK by both Winzip  more importantly, the
real gunzip running
 on a full Linux distribution...

 There doesn't seem to be any problem relating to that logged on busybox
site...

I recall some e-mails about a CRC calculation problem with busybox
gzip...don't remember exactly when, but a problem was identified, and the
fix is likely in CVS, if not in the latest releases (check the change logs).

IIRC, other than the warning, everything unpacks OK, so the error is at
least somewhat benign.

Charles Steinkuehler
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Re: [Leaf-user] glibc pppoe...

2002-01-18 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

 When LEAF leaves the single floppy behind, the entire project target
 changes and all the indications point to the change happening in the
 next 6 months or so. It seems that the primary developers are trying to
 keep the original target (floppy), and for that I commend them, it
 would be easy to simply abandon this target and move on to other ones.
 I for one still use the single floppy release as my primary home
 firewall. I have installed the DCD cd release in several different
 configurations including a harddrive, a flash drive, and a stand-alone
 cdrom, but in all honesty the floppy version stills does anything I
 need it to at home and it still intrigues me how well put together it
 is.

Well, I *have* effectevly abandoned the 1440 floppy format (for anything
other than the config floppy for a CD-ROM install), but I really want to
keep a workable firewall running on a 1680K floppy.  Note the new Dachstein
releases are actually *SMALLER* than the previous EigerStein releases, while
supporting more features!

Charles Steinkuehler
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[Leaf-user] oxygen + snort + kernel panic

2002-01-18 Thread dyp


Hi!

I am using Oxygen May 2000 and snort1.8. The router routes the packets
when snort is not installed. But when snort is up, I get the following
message and the system hangs. None of the special keys work.

error message :
$ kernel panic: skput: over c014e7cb : 1006 put : 1006 dev : eth0
 In swapper task - not syncing.

I get the same error message when I have ipchains turned on.

It would be great if anyone could suggest a solution.

Thanks,
Dharmin.





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Re: [Leaf-user] glibc pppoe...

2002-01-18 Thread Kenneth Hadley

- Original Message -
From: Charles Steinkuehler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] glibc  pppoe...


  When LEAF leaves the single floppy behind, the entire project target
  changes and all the indications point to the change happening in the
  next 6 months or so. It seems that the primary developers are trying to
  keep the original target (floppy), and for that I commend them, it
  would be easy to simply abandon this target and move on to other ones.
  I for one still use the single floppy release as my primary home
  firewall. I have installed the DCD cd release in several different
  configurations including a harddrive, a flash drive, and a stand-alone
  cdrom, but in all honesty the floppy version stills does anything I
  need it to at home and it still intrigues me how well put together it
  is.

 Well, I *have* effectevly abandoned the 1440 floppy format (for anything
 other than the config floppy for a CD-ROM install), but I really want to
 keep a workable firewall running on a 1680K floppy.  Note the new
Dachstein
 releases are actually *SMALLER* than the previous EigerStein releases,
while
 supporting more features!

 Charles Steinkuehler
 http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
 http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)


For which many of us are very grateful for your work Charles. Except for a
config I'm under the opinion that the floppy is dead. In computer technology
its a stagnate dinosaur whose time for retirement has long been late,
however its reliability and being available on almost every PC has made it
live on much longer than it should.
If the advancement of the various projects in LEAF means goodbye to the
floppy, then so be it.

I look forward to all further improvements in all the various LEAF projects.



Kenneth Hadley
PC Network Specialist / Network-PC Systems Administrator
McCormick Selph Inc.
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Re: [Leaf-user] OpenSSL and fswcert

2002-01-18 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

 Hmm.  I follow your suggestion about maintaining certs on a separate
system.
 Actually, that is my intent but it looked like OpenSSH was going to be
 necessary to do the format changing (DER, pem etc.).  I've found a
compiled
 Windows version and, since I'll be maintaining certs on a Windows system,
I
 think I'll use that.  That only leaves fswcert (used to extract the key
and
 DN and to format the result suitable for .secrets file).

 Would you be so kind as to post (or email me if you don't want to post for
 some reason) the fswcert compiled for DCD?

OpenSSL and fswcert compiled to run under Dachstein are now available (as
certools.tgz) from the IPSec 1.91 page of my website:

http://lrp.steinkuehler.net/Packages/ipsec1.91.htm

I have verified the programs run under Dachstein (so no odd libraries are
required), but I don't do much work with certificates, so I don't know if
they need any other external utilities to do their thing, but I think
they're both self-contained, and should work without issue...

Please verify the do (or don't) work for you, when you get a chance to test
them.

Charles Steinkuehler
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RE: [Leaf-user] OpenSSL and fswcert

2002-01-18 Thread Keith Laidlaw

Will advise...

Many, many thanks (again), kind sir.

Keith Laidlaw
Manager of Engineering
Dakins Engineering Group Ltd.
tel: (905) 814-6024
fax: (905) 814-6029



 -Original Message-
 From: Charles Steinkuehler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:11 PM
 To: Keith Laidlaw; LEAF
 Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] OpenSSL and fswcert
 
 
  Hmm.  I follow your suggestion about maintaining certs on a separate
 system.
  Actually, that is my intent but it looked like OpenSSH was going to be
  necessary to do the format changing (DER, pem etc.).  I've found a
 compiled
  Windows version and, since I'll be maintaining certs on a 
 Windows system,
 I
  think I'll use that.  That only leaves fswcert (used to extract the key
 and
  DN and to format the result suitable for .secrets file).
 
  Would you be so kind as to post (or email me if you don't want 
 to post for
  some reason) the fswcert compiled for DCD?
 
 OpenSSL and fswcert compiled to run under Dachstein are now available (as
 certools.tgz) from the IPSec 1.91 page of my website:
 
 http://lrp.steinkuehler.net/Packages/ipsec1.91.htm
 
 I have verified the programs run under Dachstein (so no odd libraries are
 required), but I don't do much work with certificates, so I don't know if
 they need any other external utilities to do their thing, but I think
 they're both self-contained, and should work without issue...
 
 Please verify the do (or don't) work for you, when you get a 
 chance to test
 them.
 
 Charles Steinkuehler
 http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
 http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)
 
 
 


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Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: [Leaf-user] glibc pppoe...

2002-01-18 Thread Kenneth Hadley





Kenneth Hadley
PC Network Specialist
McCormick Selph Inc.
831-637-3731 x363
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- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: [Leaf-user] glibc  pppoe...


 On Fri, 18 January 2002, Kenneth Hadley wrote:

  - Original Message -
  From: Charles Steinkuehler   Well, I *have* effectevly abandoned the
1440 floppy format (for anything
   other than the config floppy for a CD-ROM install), but I really want
to
   keep a workable firewall running on a 1680K floppy.  Note the new
  Dachstein
   releases are actually *SMALLER* than the previous EigerStein releases,
  while
   supporting more features!
  
   Charles Steinkuehler
 
  For which many of us are very grateful for your work Charles. Except for
a
  config I'm under the opinion that the floppy is dead. In computer
technology
  its a stagnate dinosaur whose time for retirement has long been late,
  however its reliability and being available on almost every PC has made
it
  live on much longer than it should.
  If the advancement of the various projects in LEAF means goodbye to the
  floppy, then so be it.
 
  I look forward to all further improvements in all the various LEAF
projects.
 
  Kenneth Hadley
 I like to have the floppy configuration avaiable.  While it is 'old'
technology, there remain many who cannot afford flash w/ide adaptors, etc.
Since I have inheritted several older systems, it costs me little to nothing
to set one up for someone.  And while one or two have CD Rom drives, all
have floppy drives.

 If they had to buy a flash or DOC, then they might as well buy a Linksys.
With the LEAF floppy systems, I have found that half the folks get more
interested in networking and Linux, which I regard as a plus.

 -sp
 $0.02

I totally understand and agree with most of what you have said, but when I
look at new CDROM drives going for the same price tag of a new 1.44MB Floppy
Drive it seams a more than a little funny that a old floppy drive is a more
important media target for a project than something that is a lot more
reliable and allows the project to do so much more.

Of course this is just my .02 cents worth...and about a $1.98 short of
something that makes sense ;-)


-Kenneth Hadley


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Re: [Leaf-user] glibc pppoe...

2002-01-18 Thread guitarlynn

On Friday 18 January 2002 13:21, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
   Well, I *have* effectevly abandoned the 1440 floppy format (for
   anything other than the config floppy for a CD-ROM install), but
   I really want to keep a workable firewall running on a 1680K
   floppy. Note the new Dachstein releases are actually *SMALLER*
   than the previous EigerStein releases, while supporting more
   features!
 
  So you're saying that Dachstein floppy is the last of its kind in
  your development? I find that saddening, but I do understand!

 Not at all!  All I'm saying above, is that I plan on going forward
 with the 1680K floppy format, rather than the 1440K disks.

Well, duh! Shows how well my public education encouraged me
to read thoroughly! I feel much better now. The scary part is I teach
a telecom class for the Tech College here maybe I can get a 
seeing-eye dog to read for me!

-- 

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Re: [Leaf-user] remote access to dachstein

2002-01-18 Thread Mike Noyes

At 2002-01-18 10:25 +, Julian Church wrote:
That was me actually, and it really isn't that hard.  A standard Dachstein 
1680K floppy has about 275KB of free space anyway, while libz.lrp and 
sshd.lrp total around 330KB - you've only got to find about 55 KB.  Here's 
exactly what I did:

If anyone thinks I should flesh this out into a howto, just let me know.

Julian,
Please do. When you're ready submit it in the DocManager. Thanks.
https://sourceforge.net/docman/new.php?group_id=13751

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Re: [Leaf-user] Suspicious 'last'

2002-01-18 Thread Jon Clausen

On Friday 18 January 2002 12:18, you wrote:

 Hey Jon,
   I can't say for sure, but these three look too
 similar to be co-inkydinks:

  USER TTY PID TIMEON  FROM
  root ttyp0   153221794   UNKNOWN
  root ttyp0   154021791   10.*.*.*
  root ttyp0   155421785   10.*.*.*

 Don't you think there's some similarity?  It difficult
 to get those so sequential, wouldn't you think?  Could the
 unknown be from a login that didn't finish for some
 innocent reason?

 Matt

Hi matt, and thanks for the response :)

similar..? -well yeah, now that you mention it, they *do* look kind of the 
same (both pid, and time-on -wise). Especially when compared to the rest of 
the entries :P

Also I talked some more with Jan, and as it turns out he *was* doing some 
stuff that morning. So I should ask if he had some login fail at some 
point... 

Guess I could have looked a litlle closer before posting :( I just got pretty 
upset, 'cause I've never seen an 'unknown' come up like that before. And as I 
said, I'm pretty new to fw-building, and as such naturally paranoid.

There are enough 'unknowns' (pun intended) for me in dealing with all this 
stuff, as it is.

Thanks though. I haven't seen anything on the inside that suggets a breach, 
so I think it's probably o.k.

Now, about that other stuff I was going to ask about, now that I've come out 
in the open... I'll post ;)

Jon

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Re: [Leaf-user] remote access to dachstein

2002-01-18 Thread Ewald Wasscher

Julian Church wrote:

 Hi All

 At 13:35 17/01/02 -0800, Victor McAllisteer wrote:

 There was a post here recently from someone who got libz.lrp and 
 sshd.lrp to fit on
 a single floppy.  He stripped the pretty version of weblet and used 
 one without
 graphics if I remember correctly.  Unfortunately the search feature 
 does not appear
 to work on the list so I can't find the message.


 That was me actually, and it really isn't that hard.  A standard 
 Dachstein 1680K floppy has about 275KB of free space anyway, while 
 libz.lrp and sshd.lrp total around 330KB - you've only got to find 
 about 55 KB.  Here's exactly what I did:

 1. In /var/sh-www/, I deleted lrpStat.jar, the weblet's java-based 
 bandwidth monitor, and netmon.html, the html document that's used to 
 display it.  To keep things neat and tidy, I then opened up index.html 
 and edited out the resulting broken link to netmon.html. 

Didn't anyone notice Charles has a weblet-tiny package on his website 
which doen't include the bandwidth monitor?

snip


 3. Then, I backed up.  Weblet.lrp reduced in size from about 67 K to 
 about 18 K, 

Which is the size of the weblet-tiny package.



 4. I still didn't have room for the ssh key generator program, 
 sshkey.lrp, on the floppy so had to install it manually after boot.  
 Once the key is generated though, you don't need it any more so there 
 isn't actually much point in trying too hard to fit it on the boot 
 floppy in any case.  Instructions for this part are at 
 http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/openssh.html.

If you still don't have enough space you may want to try my lshd and/or 
udhcpd package at:

http://leaf.sourceforge.net//devel/ewaldw/packages/

lsh is a smaller replacement for openssh and udhcpd is a smaller 
replacement for the regular dhcpd. If you're running dhcpd on multiple 
interfaces it will be hard or impossible to use this udhcpd package.

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Re: [Leaf-user] remote access to dachstein

2002-01-18 Thread Larry Platzek

Please do flesh it out! It is good to share one's knowledge.
Thank you for offering to flesh it out.

Larry Platzek  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Julian Church wrote:

 Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:25:58 +
 From: Julian Church [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: leaf-user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] remote access to dachstein

Whole bunch of text deleted.

 If anyone thinks I should flesh this out into a howto, just let me know.

 cheers

 Julian

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RE: [Leaf-user] Diald, ppp and firewall rules

2002-01-18 Thread Richard Doyle

 I'm a little confused about how to set up the network.conf to
 work with
 diald and ppp.  Diald sets up a proxy interface called 'sl0'
 to monitor for
 network traffic.  This is the default route until diald
 starts up ppp.  Then
 the default route switches to 'ppp0'.

 My question is how does someone set up the rules to apply to
 both sl0 and
 ppp0, especially when ppp0 won't exist at the time the rules
 are setup?  Do

I can't recall any reports of diald being used with any of the
mountain versions of LEAF/LRP, so you may be exploring new ground. In
general, however, you use the IF_AUTO and IF_LIST variables in
network.conf to configure your interfaces. For example, you could use:

IF_AUTO = eth0 sl0
IF_LIST = $IF_AUTO

This automatically starts sl0, but leaves diald in charge of configuring
ppp0.

 I need to use ip-up and ip-down scripts to change the firewall rules
 depending upon the state of sl0 and ppp0?  Does anyone know
 how I might use
 network.conf with ip-up and ip-down?

Normally, a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d starts the firewall when ppp0
comes up. Perhaps someone more familiar with the Dachstein scripts can
tell you how to use the built-in firewall functions for ppp0 without
restarting the ppp0 interface. It might be easier to use a separate
firewall package like seawall or echowall.


 Thanks for the help!

 Mark

Good luck!

-Richard


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[leaf-user] Memory, Floppy-Drive or other problem

2002-01-18 Thread Joris Kempen

Hi,

I'm having some problems with my dachstein diskimage firewall.

It refuses to load, backup etc.

The error I generally get is: Segmentation fault.

Other thing I see quit often is when loading my lrp modules like, etc
dhclient etc. :

unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address

I first guess that it was the floppy drive, because it was quit old.

So I replaced it with a brand new floppy drive.

I tried setting it up again, but i get the same problems.

Other guess from me: the memory simms are old/broken etc.

I moved some simms out of it and tried some others.

Can anyone explain me what this error messages mean, and what could cause
them, is
it the floppy drive, the simms or some other wacky problem???

Thanks for suggestions

Gr Joris


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Re: [Leaf-user] oxygen + snort + kernel panic

2002-01-18 Thread Matt Schalit

dyp wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 I am using Oxygen May 2000 and snort1.8. The router routes the packets
 when snort is not installed. But when snort is up, I get the following
 message and the system hangs. None of the special keys work.
 
 error message :
 $ kernel panic: skput: over c014e7cb : 1006 put : 1006 dev : eth0
  In swapper task - not syncing.
 
 I get the same error message when I have ipchains turned on.
 
 It would be great if anyone could suggest a solution.
 
 Thanks,
 Dharmin.


I think something's wrong with David's SF email account,
or something, because he's not been around in a bit.

Anyway, I'd suggest you upgrade Oxygen to 1.8.0, which
is a supposedly stable release.  Pair that with the latest
snort in his package directory and see what happens.

If it doens't work, try out Dacshstein.

Matthew

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Re: [leaf-user] Memory, Floppy-Drive or other problem

2002-01-18 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

 I'm having some problems with my dachstein diskimage firewall.
 It refuses to load, backup etc.
 The error I generally get is: Segmentation fault.
 Other thing I see quit often is when loading my lrp modules like, etc
 dhclient etc. :
 unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address
 I first guess that it was the floppy drive, because it was quit old.
 So I replaced it with a brand new floppy drive.
 I tried setting it up again, but i get the same problems.
 Other guess from me: the memory simms are old/broken etc.
 I moved some simms out of it and tried some others.

You're running out of memory.  Some of your memory may also be bad.

You need at least 12 Megs to run the floppy disk version of Dachstein, and I
suggest running with 16 Meg.

You can test your memory using a program called memtest86:
http://www.teresaudio.com/memtest86/

Charles Steinkuehler
http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
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Re: [Leaf-user] floppy base (wasglibc pppoe... )

2002-01-18 Thread speck

On Fri, 18 January 2002, Kenneth Hadley wrote:

  If they had to buy a flash or DOC, then they might as well buy a Linksys.
 With the LEAF floppy systems, I have found that half the folks get more
 interested in networking and Linux, which I regard as a plus.
 
  -sp
  $0.02
 
 I totally understand and agree with most of what you have said, but when I
 look at new CDROM drives going for the same price tag of a new 1.44MB Floppy
 Drive it seams a more than a little funny that a old floppy drive is a more
 important media target for a project than something that is a lot more
 reliable and allows the project to do so much more.
 
 Of course this is just my .02 cents worth...and about a $1.98 short of
 something that makes sense ;-)
 
 
 -Kenneth Hadley

I restate and throw in a nickel.  :)

I am not that far removed from when $15.00 in non-food/living expenses was an event to 
be planned for.  Then the options were to be selected, let's see...save for monitor, 
sound card cpu upgrade, car repair :)  Please no tangents about affordability, 
job, poor, etc :0, thru study, hard work and LUCK I improved my lot in life, but I 
know others who have not hit that 'luck' mark yet. ;)

I like the idea of a more powerful and flexible system avaible on CD, with config 
files on a floppy, BUT, I think that maintaining a simpler floppy base distribution is 
a good goal (even 1.68MB).  It enforces build disipline (ie, no wasted crap on base 
installs) and it provides a usable/afordable solution for the majority of people 
setting this stuff up.  Those on this list with DMZ's and ipsec tunnels, and etc and 
not the probable majority of users.  (Could be wrong, this is an opinion).  They just 
want to set up something that firewalls systems.

People have been marching the floppy drive's death for years now, and it still ends up 
a practical tool.  (hell, corporate installs of OS's)  When something as cheap and as 
good/better becomes avaiable, then the floppy will die.  Burnable CD-Rom's are getting 
there, but not as ubiquitous yet.

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Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: [Leaf-user] glibc pppoe...

2002-01-18 Thread Ray Olszewski

At 11:44 AM 1/18/02 -0800, Kenneth Hadley wrote:
[...]
I totally understand and agree with most of what you have said, but when I
look at new CDROM drives going for the same price tag of a new 1.44MB Floppy
Drive it seams a more than a little funny that a old floppy drive is a more
important media target for a project than something that is a lot more
reliable and allows the project to do so much more.

Where do you look? *New* CD-ROM drives are pretty cheap ... $US30 in today's
ads around here ... but not as cheap as *new* floppy drives ($US10, same ad)
by a lot. Do you know better sources for new equipment?

Anyway, unless you make a custom CD, you need a CD -AND- a floppy, not a CD
-OR- a floppy.

The other issue for the home user working with CDs is that he or she needs a
burner, and they are more expensive ($US50 locally today), require a
separate system to run them, and are more finicky than even 1680 floppy
drives and disks.

I'm moving away from this low-end equipment myself, but I still think we'll
lose a lot of user interest if floppy-only systems become impractical.


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Re: [Leaf-user] floppy base (wasglibc pppoe... )

2002-01-18 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

 I like the idea of a more powerful and flexible system avaible on CD, with
config files on a floppy, BUT, I think that maintaining a simpler floppy
base distribution is a good goal (even 1.68MB).  It enforces build disipline
(ie, no wasted crap on base installs) and it provides a usable/afordable
solution for the majority of people setting this stuff up.  Those on this
list with DMZ's and ipsec tunnels, and etc and not the probable majority of
users.  (Could be wrong, this is an opinion).  They just want to set up
something that firewalls systems.

Agreed...especially the point about floppy use enforcing build discipline.
IMHO, it should continue to be possible to create a firewall system that
functions on a single floppy, with perhaps two floppies (or other larger
media) required for more advanced setups (ie sshd, IPSec gateway).

 People have been marching the floppy drive's death for years now, and it
still ends up a practical tool.  (hell, corporate installs of OS's)  When
something as cheap and as good/better becomes avaiable, then the floppy will
die.  Burnable CD-Rom's are getting there, but not as ubiquitous yet.

Many folks have predicted the death of removable magnetic media incorrectly.
CD-R's have the floppy beat for size, speed, price-per-bit, and possibly
even overall cost (IIRC, a floppy-disk and CDR cost about the same), but
floppies still win for general usefulness, and the drives are cheaper.  If
you look at CD-RW (a more apples to apples comparison), the floppy is still
a fair amount cheaper in everything but cost per bit.

Charles Steinkuehler
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[Leaf-user] Announcement: LEAF 2.4.16 + Shorewall 1.2.2

2002-01-18 Thread Jacques Nilo

With the help of Eric Wolzak I have updated my LEAF 2.4.x / Shorewall
based distro.

Many new features are available on the floppy:

  a.. Kernel 2.4.16 now used. New kernel config file. Includes in
particular support for PCMCIA, PPP, PPP/PPPOE, ISDN, USB and bridging

  b.. Use shorewall 1.2.2 allowing among many other things traffic
shapping  blacklisting

  c.. Pump (0.8.11-3) being used as default DHCP/BOOTP client to save
disk space (dhclient.lrp still OK)

  d.. networking script now fully debian/sid compatible. Dachstein's
/etc/network.conf, /etc/ipchains.conf and /etc/init.d/network
files/scripts completely removed

  e.. ifconfig (1.4.2) and ifupdown (0.6.4) available

  f.. new applets in bbox library (0.60.2)

  g.. new version of iproute2 (010824). tc patched to allow for HTB
queuing discipline

  h.. bridge now available as a separate package. Provides brctl from
bridge-utils (0.9.4)

  i.. ppp.lrp and pppoe.lrp provided in the standard distro for
serial/modem and adsl/pppoe connections. pppoe.lrp provides the PPPOE
2.4.16 kernel plugin. The ppp daemon is the 2.4.1 version patched for
kernel mode PPPOE available here.

  j.. pon, poff and plog scripts provided in ppp.lrp for ppp on demand.

  k.. weblet.lrp modified to handle iptable output. Do not need netstat
anymore

Also a user's guide is available. Check:
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo

Enjoy!
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Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: [Leaf-user] glibc pppoe...

2002-01-18 Thread Robert Chambers



32x cd rom drive at Computer geeks $14.00

Ray Olszewski wrote:

  At 11:44 AM 1/18/02 -0800, Kenneth Hadley wrote:[...]
  
I totally understand and agree with most of what you have said, but when Ilook at new CDROM drives going for the same price tag of a new 1.44MB FloppyDrive it seams a more than a little funny that a old floppy drive is a moreimportant media target for a project than something that is a lot morereliable and allows the project to do so much more.

Where do you look? *New* CD-ROM drives are pretty cheap ... $US30 in today'sads around here ... but not as cheap as *new* floppy drives ($US10, same ad)by a lot. Do you know better sources for new equipment?Anyway, unless you make a custom CD, you need a CD -AND- a floppy, not a CD-OR- a floppy.The other issue for the home user working with CDs is that he or she needs aburner, and they are more expensive ($US50 locally today), require aseparate system to run them, and are more finicky than even 1680 floppydrives and disks.I'm moving away from this low-end equipment myself, but I still think we'lllose a lot of user interest if floppy-only systems become impractical.--"Never tell me the odds!"---Ray Olszewski-- Han SoloPalo Alto, CA   	 	 [EMAIL PROTECTED]___Leaf-user mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user






Re: [Leaf-user] floppy base (wasglibc pppoe... )

2002-01-18 Thread Mark Plowman

snip
 Agreed...especially the point about floppy use enforcing build discipline.
 IMHO, it should continue to be possible to create a firewall system that
 functions on a single floppy, with perhaps two floppies (or other larger
 media) required for more advanced setups (ie sshd, IPSec gateway).

And (again) the point that:

  what isn't there, can't be hacked

A firewall is *the* security component in many systems, keep it small,
keep it simple.

Mark


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[Leaf-user] dachstein and port forwarding (again)

2002-01-18 Thread David Goodrich

earlier...
I am running the most recent version of dachstein, and i cannot figure out
how to forward ports (most notably port 80) to machines on my internal net.
i.e. send http request on port 80 to [static ip] and have the firewall send
the request to [internal webserver] while still looking like it came from
[static ip].  
...

on the advice of guitarlynn, i un-commented these lines in network.conf 
  EXTERN_TCP_PORT0=0/0 www 
and 
  INTERN_WWW_SRVER=192.168.1.11 
 
and it doesn't work...

the internal webserver is accessible on the internal network, the router is
nat'ing packets just fine (i'm writing this email from behind it) and...
yeah... i don't know what more information you need from me, but let me know
what you do need. if you have any idea what's wrong, i'd appreciate the help
:]  thanks again
 -david goodrich

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Re: [Leaf-user] many packets, different T

2002-01-18 Thread Mike Sussman

Folks,
Since I posted my earlier message, I have begun to see this kind of
thing repeatedly.  For the past 24 hours, my logs contain over 1000
lines of such packets!  By that I mean, if I discard all lines that are
identical to one another except for the T= field, my file goes from
1177 denied packets to 47 denied packets.  They are NOT all 
port 111 packets--some are port 111, some are port 22, port 21,
port 53, and port 0 (PROTO 1).  And they seem to have many different
source IP's as well.  I have NEVER seen anything like this over the past
year.  I changed from ES2B to D-floppy about two weeks ago.  I have
rebooted since these started.

Is it possible that I have a bug somewhere and these log entries are all
from the same packet?  Is it possible that someone on my cable 
subnet is doing something bad to me?

Folks, I have begun receiving (and denying) long sequences of packets and I
am wondering what is going on.

I am running Dachstein 1.0.2 floppy on a 486/33 with 16MB.  VERY nice!
Thanks Charles and so many others.  I am on a cable connection with
Adelphia, from which I generally get good service.

Starting several days ago I began receiving long sequences of packets.  For
example, I received the following:
Jan 17 10:27:25 boxer kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=6 
65.103.98.68:2240 24.51.134.147:111 L=60 S=0x00 I=4296 F=0x4000 T=39 SYN 
(#62)
This packet is suspicious in itself, but I also received 38 more like it 
with 
the same time stamp (10:27:25), identical in all fields except the T= 
field.  That one contained the numbers 1-38 for each of the other
packets.  They appear in order, decreasing from 39 to 1, in
 /var/log/messages.
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[Leaf-user] DCD PPPoE documentation needs fixing

2002-01-18 Thread Victor McAllister

Kenneth the documentation here has an error.

http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/khadley/pppoe-cd.html

7) Uncomment the modules you need for your NICs and add this to your
/etc/network.conf:
# Serial Support
slhc
ppp
ppp_deflate
bsd_comp

7) Uncomment the modules you need for your NICs and add this to your
/etc/modules

^^^

# Serial Support
slhc
ppp
ppp_deflate
bsd_comp

I have a friend who is trying to migrate from Eigerstein PPPoE to DCD PPPoE and
this drove him nuts.




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Re: [Leaf-user] Announcement: LEAF 2.4.16 + Shorewall 1.2.2

2002-01-18 Thread Jacques Nilo

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Does USB support include networking?  My brother-in-law has DSL, but
the modem he got with the service is USB only, and the service uses
PPPoE on top of that.  Will this let me finally share his connection out
to the rest of the house?
USB networking should work. Obviously we have not been able to test
every DSL/modem combination and we have not tested USB in particuler.
But I am definitively interested to help you to setup that (send me your
modem reference and some info on your ISP connection characteristics) in
order to improve the documentation.
 They don't want any wires run, so the plan (if this distro can do it)
will be to use the USB DSL modem/PPPoE to connect, and to run the rest
of the house wireless.  I would have internet connectivity to all of my
machines again (moved 3 months ago, and haven't been directly on the
ineternet for that long --- it's killing me), and all would be well with
the world.  Okay, maybe not with *the* world, but *my* world would be
much better. :)
Wireless networking is one of my next priority. Here again beta testers
are welcomed !
Jacques


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