Re: Hot Deal! SpinRite Router Motors: Save $80 One Week Only!
Anybody in "The Group" own or have used a SpinRite router? If so, which one? Your experiences & thoughts on it? It has nice features. I wonder if it "lives up to the high Woodpeckers Standards". Have a Wonderful Wednesday! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Oct 30, 2024 12:32 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hot Deal! SpinRite Router Motors: Save $80 One Week Only! Awesome Deal! Thanks Tim. C.A.G. On Tuesday, October 29, 2024 at 09:20:22 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler wrote: Anyone looking for a great router motor to fit your LOM here you go.Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler -- Forwarded message - From: Woodpeckers Xtra mailto:woodpeck...@e.woodpeck.com)> Date: Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 3:38 AM Subject: Hot Deal! SpinRite Router Motors: Save $80 One Week Only! To: mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> Get better surface finish, less operator fatigue and longer tool life! (https://link.woodpeck.com/q/ceUq2Yy0JyWZ0XpMsgPf_gdy1SSc2FjCLSKZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gYgMwV4xWebzLmbgo-qi6Zz2IGMA) (https://link.woodpeck.com/q/d0sc-CmRZRU20XYDwDwMvVdadD8Y-M2quASZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4g31YHvSI9fJ4Lw8ZetGW2ljN9TBw)SpinRite Soft-Start Router Motor (https://link.woodpeck.com/q/KkjOaWBCB3My0XxnBp3mtIi6Vo-maEQpC-cZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4g0vCvr0FNf4PLJkscqpIT3OtL1rw) Made Specifically for Mounting in Router Lifts & CNC Gantries. SpinRite™ router motors are built from the ground up to deliver optimum performance in a router lift or a small shop CNC. It starts with industrial CNC-grade ER20 collets, a carefully machined internal taper on the shaft, and a precision collet nut. These three critical components combine to deliver significantly less run-out than the most popular 3HP class routers on the market. Then, there’s infinite speed control from a low of 10,000 rpm to 22,000 rpm. When you turn the Spin-Rite on, you’ll notice the soft-start feature ramps the speed up smoothly, saving wear and tear on both the router and the lift (or gantry). Once it’s at speed, you’ll notice minimal vibration and 75% quieter operation. It all comes together to deliver a better surface finish, less operator fatigue and longer tool life. (https://link.woodpeck.com/q/FeD93CovSKuP0Xia9ipsNwLCVrjC3KbnSgmZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4ghrT0SY5ZfIzLtU3IDP-FlUIax9A) (https://link.woodpeck.com/q/e7e39IY66VsS0XWa4Z1nN-LJ1E6v9eAmrcKZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gw8J2v0w8cqELLJ1WQatlY4cPHdg) (https://link.woodpeck.com/q/C2NCfF8KLOtV0X6ZKwzHio2WDhV4fMcLnO8ZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gA1cuAjeUf46LcVcSB3suivQNSLg) (https://link.woodpeck.com/q/VA4jR8LAnHJe0XuoPkuE6jGjoKnwRKIybjRZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gXpcIW1rpdL5LaaCAC0SQpn16SCA) (https://link.woodpeck.com/q/MwpFRfA4IAbh0XBwnTxODHQqA4CBRGgfo4CZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gg4Ke-c0Hc4GL4MFPUXZsLwIOHng) (https://link.woodpeck.com/q/cB_wN4HNTgEm0Xb51B8IzblSiuptNwMmBjxZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gCGEZAH4rc5LLfo2cy_uBOHwhkGQ) (https://link.woodpeck.com/q/GG7W9ELds-LG0XaEk9OW07SXcVgH9qM2LCDZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4g2OYXC7Avd6iL0Te3A9oMsltjjFw) (https://link.woodpeck.com/q/EwAM_3x1GvOk0XS0i_4uj79cHnxt_TDtwKWZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gOUGf-1mJeoeLubaows9wikTlEnw) This email was sent to timjzieg...@gmail.com (#m_-8046101325576107997_) by Woodpeckers Woodshop/Xtra 13700 Prospect Road | Strongsville | OH | 44149 (https://link.woodpeck.com/q/2MZeqEf4RrD60X_ywxzpqE94yAvMq4akE-PZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4grmBNhYAxcaOLmOCpE2OCPz65lTQ) Forward to a Friend (https://link.woodpeck.com/q/DMRfklDax6pKl0Y6RLluSJQmKlKeX4BjJRsLgBS_-ZBhDkSJV6s6bCc_0) | Privacy Policy (https://link.woodpeck.com/q/LhJC0dQzWxzm0XqLpJ0SE1HuL_8D01RDdCEZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gzv1baxYUfqWLCf-RRc1nA0c74Ww) | View in Browser (https://link.woodpeck.com/q/ePaxifobDknfEEgkcUAN3WdafEzoYEkTW1_UqUBiNslvOi3QsW797xLXE) Unsubscribe (https://link.woodpeck.com/q/pQ69fcbczZh7dROZotMvIk2O7dhahFGLk2ztcxC0HEVMJfIBDTqVIe34R) | Get fewer emails (https://link.woodpeck.com/q/03jN-ap5B23j0Xv1adIhJxhIUguW-X6Pf7_ZcOJdGltanppZWdsZXJAZ21haWwuY29tw4gw0iJCJJUd5yL0DE1UkiUPIsNNiQ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/a2ee48ab-a1d9-f3a0-9433-d5787814ae28%40earthlink.net.
RE: sunrise
Bill, Thanks for sharing. I too loved the mist over the pond (swamp?). Any gators in it? Ducks, geese, or big fish? Since "Halloween" is almost upon us here, I thought it was somewhat timely with the fog and somewhat "spooky looking" trees & bushes. Yep - be sure to "Be Thankful" each and every day - for it may be your Best or last. Only He knows! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Oct 28, 2024 5:23 PM To: Subject: RE: sunrise Yea I see that most mornings this time of the year I was on my front porch as I do most mornings giving thanks to the man upstairs and I thought what the heck I might video it Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2024 8:07 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: sunrise Hey Bill that was absolutely beautiful. Thanks for sharing. I like the fog coming off your pond or low land looks real nice. Thanks again. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 3:44 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: This was the view I got this morning again I never take it for granted not legacy I know but I just thought I would share my morning with you guys https://youtu.be/e8bOuw14xYk Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/84074de0-f0d7-1322-8c7a-dd518dc390d6%40earthlink.net.
Re: remember this situation?
Joe, Yes I do. Did you and ZZ Tim not go in together and buy the entire package? The guy says he has (had?) 6 LOMs. He only has a pic of one. Wonder what's up with all the others. Blessings. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Oct 28, 2024 10:31 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: remember this situation? Marketplace - Woodworking Professional Grade LEGACY 1800 | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/388750890869401?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A3a43fe06-8c18-4df3-bc45-bf2eef232038) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/6e40f739-78c7-2355-eac4-f8dfa7d0919f%40earthlink.net.
Re: Fwd: Reminder: Building and Matching Grant Update 10-11-24
Tim, VERY nice article - thanks for sharing! I'll bet it will become a place we can "dream" about attending for a class or course. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Oct 15, 2024 10:45 PM To: LOM Group Subject: Fwd: Reminder: Building and Matching Grant Update 10-11-24 just a shareKind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell -- Forwarded message - From: Plumier Foundation mailto:david-plumier@shared1.ccsend.com)> Date: Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 7:01 PM Subject: Reminder: Building and Matching Grant Update 10-11-24 To: mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> The move out of Port Chester is complete, and we’ve made progress on the matching grant. Greetings! Here's our latest progress report on the big move! The building is coming along great! We’re also making progress on the matching grant. As we approach $25,000 in matched donations, the donor who offered the $100,000 matching grant gave us a thumbs up to count as matching donations the proceeds received from the sale of objects donated by artists and craftspeople who want to contribute toward the building. Stay tuned, we'll begin presenting these objects soon. As I've mentioned before, if we can match this $100,000 grant, we will be able to move into our new building free of debt. Equally important, we can hit the deck running with programs critical to the Plumier Foundation's achieving its mission. Internships, residencies and long term students are all part of that mission. Entering the new facility debt free will go a long way toward getting these programs started up. If you have the ability to help, there's no better time to give than now, when your gift is doubled. For those who might have missed our previous notes, the donor wants the matching grant campaign to accommodate both end of the year giving and beginning of the year giving, so we are setting a deadline of December 31 which will include commitments for the first quarter of 2025 toward the match as well. The timing of your help is critical because the ideal time to get our new shop set up right is now. Keep in mind, we are a 501(C)3, so donations are tax deductible. Despite many technical challenges, the past month of building construction saw progress on multiple fronts, . We had volunteer workers from Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Utah. Also, students from the local “S.T.E.A.M. Academy” (called Voc-Ed in times past) came down to help us out with the electrical wiring. The electrical work has moved forward and the windows are now installed . There has been good progress on the siding and the HVAC system as well. The plumbing is coming along nicely, and almost all of the framing has been completed. We’re moving rapidly toward installing drywall and flooring, some of the last things that need to be done before getting a certificate of occupancy. Our volunteers have been hard at it, putting in many hours off of the books. Matt Clemens is back out here from Cincinnati. Like so many of us, he can’t stay away. Here we see him with volunteer Geoff Saver, who lives about an hour and a half away, putting up siding along with Dustin Young from Delta Yankee Construction. Geoff has been a longtime supporter of ornamental turning and has been extremely generous with his time, spending an average of three days a week on the job. The 6" cedar siding they’re putting up was painted by other volunteers including John Hurn, Scott Barrett, Sebastian Dytrich, and Matt Clemens. Seeing the siding go up is very gratifying, and passers-by continually offer compliments on its appearance. Molyneaux Electric, owned by John Molyneaux, installed the main electrical panels. John won the local Heritage Preservation Award for 2024 for the work he did on the building across the alley from ours. In times past that building housed the armory for the local militia in the upper level and a hardware store below. He’s presently working on restoring the old hotel diagonally across the street from our building. His advice on all things electrical has been invaluable. The high school kids from the River Valley School District’s S.T.E.A.M. School picked up where John’s people left off. Led by their teachers, Kip Mack and Mark Wydareny, the kids took right off the first day they arrived. Kip had 30 years in the electrical trade when the River Valley School District hired him to teach. Mark Wydareny, an English teacher, voluntarily joined the S.T.E.A.M. program to help Kip with the pedagogical side of things. They make a great team, and they led the students as the students installed boxes and ran wires. Approximately 15 students come down twice per week, and they will likely be on site for the next few weeks as we finish up the electrical work. We have been very impressed with the students’ work ethic. With few exceptions, they ente
RE: Legacy sale on Market place that all should look at.
Bill, It's a good thing you don't live here in America. Because if you did, you would quickly be in a race to have more Mills and routers than "ZZ Tim"! Lucky for him, he has no one closing in on him - as far as I know. LoL! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Oct 4, 2024 5:09 AM To: Subject: RE: Legacy sale on Market place that all should look at. My choice is a triton router because of the fine adjustment in plunging and the quick change 10 seconds to add and remove the router No other router dose this I have 7 of them now on my legacys and router table but when I started I had 2 that did all my router needs Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of John Von Brandt Sent: Friday, 4 October 2024 4:47 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Legacy sale on Market place that all should look at. Hey Tim, I’m wanting to get a plunge router and was looking for suggestions. I have the suggested porter cable on my z axis carrier. But I have the lighter sled that I want to mate with a good plunge router. On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 3:53 AM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> wrote: Wow what a deal right. Thanks for sharing. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 11:26 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: HI guys. this sale is of a 1500 with a motor drive, Z axis that has never been put together, this machine is pristine, and looks like it was never used. Check it out your self's. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1006397173945750/?rdid=g6AyC1N4jLpHMLKI&share_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fshare%2FAEbcLaiNMSRaT1WF Legacy 1500 Ornamental Milling tool with upgrades.$1,000 in Midlothian, IL (https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/108211975867163/) Details * Condition Used - like new Legacy 1500 Ornamental Milling machine, used sparingly with upgrade kits still in original cartons. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/83493876-d0a8-a943-4771-f1c6a68abfd9%40earthlink.net.
RE: Cant swear by it. But I think I made this?
Bill, Thanks for sharing. I like both - really nice! A shame the friend did not take better care of his gift! At least you still have yours. Enjoy it. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Sep 30, 2024 9:47 PM To: Subject: RE: Cant swear by it. But I think I made this? I also know that feeling my first triple spiral was a letter box which I sold to a friend he wanted to paint it himself which he never did and just put it up at his front gate to deteriorate in the weather and after about a year it was destroyed by vandals so the last one I made I kept my self it has a small table top on it and is stained 3 different colours and is sitting safe in my lounge room. Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2024 7:53 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Cant swear by it. But I think I made this? Hey there Mac. Yes it dose break my hart, on one hand TO SEE THIS, but I constantly have to remind my self, that once you give (or sell) something, it is NO longer yours. The table that I made was not painted white originally , it was Red Oak. It was made for my brother-in-law for there up stairs library (IN a house that they no longer own.) I also made this staircase for him. posted on this group page 2008. (and this staircase was also OAK before he painted it.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/72d6b18a-a1ae-6e43-8ef0-eaa67f771c34%40earthlink.net.
Fw: Bridge City Tool Works | Harvey Industries | Jack Xu | John Economaki | Woodworker's Journal
Not sure why this one went to my Spam folder. I'm concerned it may do that to others in The Group too - so I'm re-sending it. Enjoy! Mac -Forwarded Message- From: Sent: Sep 27, 2024 11:14 PM To: Legacy Goog Group Subject: Bridge City Tool Works | Harvey Industries | Jack Xu | John Economaki | Woodworker's Journal Here you go - I looked up what happened to BC Tool Works. Link is below. Interesting article by Chris Marshall - that was in a "Woodworker's Journal" in summer of 2018. (By the way - if you bought copies of or subscribed to the "Woodworker's Journal" - be on the lookout for their "Final Issue". It is out there - available at Rockler stores and their website. Attached is a screen shot of its cover. Boy do I hate to see it go! It was a GREAT magazine for woodworkers.) Enjoy! Mac Subject: Harvey Industries | Bridge City Tool Works | Jack Xu | John Economaki | Woodworker's Journal https://www.woodworkersjournal.com/harvey-acquires-bridge-city-tool-works/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/d0392d8d-2d58-9d41-05c2-32175f5e5041%40earthlink.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/182d3e36-433f-e053-5e84-300e38de8d3f%40earthlink.net.
Bridge City Tool Works | Harvey Industries | Jack Xu | John Economaki | Woodworker's Journal
Here you go - I looked up what happened to BC Tool Works. Link is below. Interesting article by Chris Marshall - that was in a "Woodworker's Journal" in summer of 2018. (By the way - if you bought copies of or subscribed to the "Woodworker's Journal" - be on the lookout for their "Final Issue". It is out there - available at Rockler stores and their website. Attached is a screen shot of its cover. Boy do I hate to see it go! It was a GREAT magazine for woodworkers.) Enjoy! Mac Subject: Harvey Industries | Bridge City Tool Works | Jack Xu | John Economaki | Woodworker's Journal https://www.woodworkersjournal.com/harvey-acquires-bridge-city-tool-works/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/d0392d8d-2d58-9d41-05c2-32175f5e5041%40earthlink.net.
RE: DynaGlide sources - MSDS
Based upon what Joe G. told us (below), I suggest you go to their website and seek the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) for whatever product you entertain using. There are also several sites where you can find the MSDS for products - probably one at the federal level too. Good luck. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Sep 20, 2024 12:20 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: NOT my works. I have not tried this. Thanks for the note. C.A.G. On Friday, September 20, 2024 at 12:17:52 AM EDT, Oyo Lito wrote: Hey Guys I've used this and it seems to work well on my saw blades and shaper knives. You may want to give it a try. However, I read it's toxic to inheale, so use ppe... https://www.amazon.com/DuPont-Non-Stick-Dry-Film-Lubricant-14-Ounce/dp/B00D3G6IFE?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER Oliver On Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 11:22 PM Joseph Greenleaf mailto:solastob...@gmail.com)> wrote: Looked it up on Google Gemini. It says: "Dynaglide is primarily made from Dyneema, which is a type of High Modulus Polyethylene (HMPE) fiber known for its high strength, low stretch, and light weight. It is then typically coated with polyurethane to enhance its abrasion resistance and gliding characteristics."Maybe that will help you find a similar product. Joe G. On Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 9:20 PM John Von Brandt mailto:jvonbran...@gmail.com)> wrote: Can you recommend another dry lube as we don't have dynaGlide anywhere locally and after postage $36 seems a little steep. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/3755ae66-bfef-757c-fc4d-0a3605735ee4%40earthlink.net.
Re: DynaGlide sources - MicroFence
To all, Thank you ZZ-Tim. Yes - buy it from Legacy if at all possible. And - Thanks again for your input John Hennen! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Sep 19, 2024 10:58 PM To: Subject: Re: DynaGlide sources - MicroFence Yes simply put, buy it from Legacy. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 9:13 PM John Hennen mailto:john.hen...@gmail.com)> wrote: Legacy sells it for 16 a can or 14 a can if you buy a case On Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 8:01 PM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net)> wrote: Whomever asked, (I changed Subj line to be much more appropriate - and easier to find if/when doing a search of our Group's pages.) There are several sites that sell it. (Legacy used to - not sure if they still do.) Do a Bing search for it. You may also be able to submit a query on one or more of the router forum sites. Micro-Fence (https://microfence.com/product/dynaglide-dry-lube-spray-buy-separately-or-by-the-case/) has it for $22/can or $240/case(12 = $20 per can) Not sure what postage will be - but, by any measure, it will be less than what "Down-Under Bill" would pay! Maybe we can get ZZ-Tim to buy a couple cases and then sell individual cans to all of us for $10/can (inclucing postage)! Best of luck! Mac -Original Message- From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Sep 19, 2024 9:20 PM To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: Re: NOT my works. Can you recommend another dry lube as we don't have dynaGlide anywhere locally and after postage $36 seems a little steep. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/ff4002da-97d0-6238-db7a-90842cf35cd8%40earthlink.net.
Re: DynaGlide sources - MicroFence
John (Hennen), Thank you. I was hoping that you or Andy/Cindy might pop in with whether or not ya'll still sold it. All ya'll - buy t from John & Cindy at Legacy! Thanks again. Blessings! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Sep 19, 2024 10:13 PM To: Subject: Re: DynaGlide sources - MicroFence Legacy sells it for 16 a can or 14 a can if you buy a case On Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 8:01 PM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net)> wrote: Whomever asked, (I changed Subj line to be much more appropriate - and easier to find if/when doing a search of our Group's pages.) There are several sites that sell it. (Legacy used to - not sure if they still do.) Do a Bing search for it. You may also be able to submit a query on one or more of the router forum sites. Micro-Fence (https://microfence.com/product/dynaglide-dry-lube-spray-buy-separately-or-by-the-case/) has it for $22/can or $240/case(12 = $20 per can) Not sure what postage will be - but, by any measure, it will be less than what "Down-Under Bill" would pay! Maybe we can get ZZ-Tim to buy a couple cases and then sell individual cans to all of us for $10/can (inclucing postage)! Best of luck! Mac -Original Message- From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Sep 19, 2024 9:20 PM To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: Re: NOT my works. Can you recommend another dry lube as we don't have dynaGlide anywhere locally and after postage $36 seems a little steep. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/50dd3307-84a0-0e02-185e-28f8c72a60df%40earthlink.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAEQTEdLoCHyQ0ahRfcoQQf1piVXtWfOjWRoGdbvkMuOsiVv-qA%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/8e7a0603-0ebb-7ab0-ce94-baaf561e13ae%40earthlink.net.
Re: DynaGlide sources - MicroFence
Whomever asked, (I changed Subj line to be much more appropriate - and easier to find if/when doing a search of our Group's pages.) There are several sites that sell it. (Legacy used to - not sure if they still do.) Do a Bing search for it. You may also be able to submit a query on one or more of the router forum sites. Micro-Fence (https://microfence.com/product/dynaglide-dry-lube-spray-buy-separately-or-by-the-case/) has it for $22/can or $240/case(12 = $20 per can) Not sure what postage will be - but, by any measure, it will be less than what "Down-Under Bill" would pay! Maybe we can get ZZ-Tim to buy a couple cases and then sell individual cans to all of us for $10/can (inclucing postage)! Best of luck! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Sep 19, 2024 9:20 PM To: Subject: Re: NOT my works. Can you recommend another dry lube as we don't have dynaGlide anywhere locally and after postage $36 seems a little steep. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/50dd3307-84a0-0e02-185e-28f8c72a60df%40earthlink.net.
Hold-downs that some may find useful
I got an email from Rockler Woodworking & Hardware that had this interesting hold-down for when you need to secure a piece of wood while working it - whether you're using a CNC, LOM, or hand tools. I figure one or more of our Group members will find them useful. Here's the link: Rockler "Slab Gripper Hold-Down Clamps, 4-pack" (https://www.rockler.com/rockler-slab-gripper-hold-down-clamps-4-pack?sid=V25864&utm_medium=email&utm_source=batch&utm_campaign=20240907_Newest-Jigs-%28Fill%29&mcID=922%3A66d9e6ed7fa7e8ffc0016bf3%3Aot%3A5dca024d17295b2bb9255482%3A1&linkID=) Enjoy. Mac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/965babae-f1ed-0ebc-10d0-78dbbe450fc3%40earthlink.net.
Re: Legacy miter kit
Tim, I'm w/you - gears. We got 'em - use 'em! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Sep 2, 2024 10:24 PM To: Subject: Re: Legacy miter kit That will be fun to see Dan, Look forward to what you come up with for sure. Me personally, I was doing the gear thing. Kind Regards,Timothy J. Ziegler On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 3:33 PM cdkr...@gmail.com (mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com) mailto:cdkra...@gmail.com)> wrote: Understood. I do have a biscuit joiner and I like using it. This was just a shiny object that caught my attention. BTW, I'm planning on putting a 3/4-16 threaded rod on the feed screw bearings to address several issues, one of them being to index box joints more accurately. Other benefits include much increased range of pitches. Thanks for the help. DanK On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 1:51:27 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au (mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au) wrote: Good luck with that one I been trying to replace mine for years but it was not that good anyway you can do a much better job with a floating tenon Like the festool domino tool does or even the good old biscuit joiner Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/0eae8175-7e0a-e7b9-37c2-f08d02c45605%40earthlink.net.
Re: Abridged summary of legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 13 updates in 4 topics
Not me! If "Down Under Bill", "ZZ Tim", or Curtis didn't buy it, it must have been NY Joe! I hope that Richard let the buyer know about The Group - and we'll see him/her pop up here with questions. I guess we'll soon find out. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 30, 2024 11:45 PM To: Subject: Re: Abridged summary of legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 13 updates in 4 topics I am innocent until proven guilty. Not I! Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:39 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: Ok which one of you guys grabbed it lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of Richard Demerath Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2024 8:56 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) Subject: Re: Abridged summary of legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) - 13 updates in 4 topics I did sell it. Now to clean out the shop so I can play with the 1500! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/5824a71b-da44-f2d9-0c84-3ebfdd6f440e%40earthlink.net.
RE: new custom mill
Technically, the machine most likely belongs to Legacy - until they turn it over/deliver it to customer. OtOH - if the customer had a "non-disclosure" clause in the purchase order/contract - that would change things. Like has been mentioned, Legacy would have to have a release - and was probably told in it what they could and could not say, show, do as regards the Mill. Cheers! Mac Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 30, 2024 2:37 PM To: Subject: RE: new custom mill Perhaps the customer was a legacy member maybe Tracy himself but whoever it is I would assume they need their permission to show it off Or maybe offered a couple of thousand bucks discount if they can who knows Bill From: 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Friday, 30 August 2024 11:31 PM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: new custom mill Interesting... and quite the machine... a bit surprised that Legacy is showing some custom, machine fabrication work, that the client they made the machine for, requested... I would have thought that the client would have wanted that info kept propritory to their specific use... much like the so-called 40 ft. Legacy machine that they made quite a number of years ago(or at least that is what I heard!... LOL!)... and what anyone would use a 40ft Legacy for is also a bit of a mystery... and it seems Legacy is not letting that info out!... also, what does a machine, like what they showed in the video, cost in its basic form? On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 8:41:14 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote: Wow! that's Neat ! I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to use on the manual machines as well. C.A.G. On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjz...@gmail.com)> wrote: Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure. Thanks for sharing with the group Bill. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/75d4e325-cddb-da8b-2632-8d830de43359%40earthlink.net.
RE: new custom mill
Like they sometimes say when buying a nice big 4x4 truck (our big SUV) - "If ya ask how great it is with gas mileage - then ya probably can't afford the truck!" So with that LOM - if you are concerned about the cost of those 3 mounts - don't bother asking how much the machine attached to them costs - you can't afford it! LoL!! Have a Fun-filled and Safe Labor Day Weekend everybody! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 30, 2024 2:10 PM To: Subject: RE: new custom mill I wondered that too curt Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Friday, 30 August 2024 10:41 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new custom mill Wow! that's Neat ! I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to use on the manual machines as well. C.A.G. On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> wrote: Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure. Thanks for sharing with the group Bill. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 2:38 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA interesting Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/002e01dafaaf%24972c3ad0%24c584b070%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGjiuyx7kO-aiWw2aukKheTCkvxb0MBb-WQcYkKs21Myg%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/640920044.978332.1725021670372%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001301dafb07%24de53d5f0%249afb81d0%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/22bf407b-a7d5-442a-45d5-cbe794c56b2e%40earthlink.net.
Re: LOM Model 500 for sale
Richard, Using it as an "ornamental mill" is one possibility. On the other hand, with "Slab Tables", Slab/Live Edge Shelves" being quite popular - the 500 could certainly be employed as a "slab flattener". Do you still have the LOM 1500? Guys like Curtis, "Down Under Bill", and ZZ Tim (cousin to ZZ Top) can all give you advice on how to make that function work with the 500.For instance you could make a "Slab Killer" that NY Joe (Biuno) would envy. Use the 1500's long rails to allow flattening of really long boards and marry it with the long rails from the 500 to allow you to flatten really w-i-d-e boards - using them to support the router unit - essentially making the 500's rails be the gantry housing the router. Best of luck to ya! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 30, 2024 12:30 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: LOM Model 500 for sale Hello Richard I wish you luck on your sale of the Legacy 500. Sadly the 500 is not worth a lot of money, But like you pointed out this machine looks in very good condition, and it looks like everything is there. The 500 was made as an entry level machine, the plastic gearing and very limited taper ability's. are the weak points of this machine. Depending on what you want for it, this Legacy could still work out very well for someone. An example could be, as a first step on turning, on a production job. like table legs. this machine could do a good job on making the rough cuts, and then another machine, ether lathe or another Legacy could be the finial or finer elements needed? Richard what are you thinking you would like to sell this Legacy for? On Thursday, August 29, 2024 at 11:52:18 PM EDT, Richard Demerath wrote: I am presently downsizing and have a LOL model 500 for sale. Don’t know much about it but it appears to be used very little. Includes extra gears and measuring scales. This is an extra one I received when I purchased a LOM 1500. Located in Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin 54494 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/f349552d-1773-cdb4-86ac-aefda2a31160%40earthlink.net.
Fw: Woodturning Newsletter - What's The Difference
To All, I know some of you in "The Group" get Ron Brown's emails. Tim has shared a couple recently. When I finally got around to reading this one - I thought "Holy Cow! This info is worth sharing - even though some (or most) of us know the info - it is all well worth seeing/reading again! Especially the info re: Sanding and Finishing. Enjoy! Mac -Forwarded Message- From: Ron Brown's Best, LLC Sent: Aug 17, 2024 3:00 AM To: Subject: Woodturning Newsletter - What's The Difference 96 The Difference Between Perfect And Good Enough Perfect Definition: “Having all the required or desirable elements, qualities, or characteristics; as good as it is possible to be.” In life, things are seldom perfect. When turning wooden objects, things are rarely perfect. I recommend that you strive to be better this time than last time. Three main areas within your control always make a huge difference in the final product and require surprisingly little extra effort. Shape Learning what shapes are pleasing is a lifelong quest for most of us. When you are making something for someone other than yourself, you have to consider the shape. It must be visually pleasing with the proper proportions. The curves must be fair and the separations must be sharp. A great way to develop an understanding of pleasing shapes is to study ceramics and glass vessels similar to the projects you undertake. There are tons of resources on classic shapes that have been around for centuries. There are good reasons for certain shapes to remain popular over the centuries. If you try to swim upstream for too long, you will soon tire and fail. Sanding This is an area most easily and quickly improved. 1) Half a Grit: if you start with 100 grit sandpaper, don’t go finer than 150 grit next. Then don’t go finer than 220 grit and so on. 2) Take time to visually inspect that all of the 100 grit scratches are removed before you finish with the 150 grit. If you don’t remove all of the scratches at each step, they will show through in the final finish. 3) I recommend using compressed air to blow off all of the sanding dust along with a strong raking light to inspect your work before moving to the next grit. If you are working with very hard wood i.e. ebony, cocobolo, African blackwood, padauk, acrylic, or epoxy, this is especially important. Take extra time to get it right now or you will have to do it over. 4) NOTE: I stop sanding wood at 320 grit. When using finer grits, friction can overheat the lignin in the wood and make it resistant to film finishes adhering to the surface causing the finish to fail much sooner. Finish 1) If you rush the finishing process, you will have ruined all your hard work. 2) Film finishes (lacquer, varnish, shellac, epoxy, friction finish-shellac) are more durable than wax finishes. But they take more time and effort. 3) Wax is a quick finish that will dull over time and need to be renewed either by reapplication or more buffing. Wax finishes are quick to apply and look shiny and sparkly in the short term. Wax is perfect for projects where saving time is important and the durability of the finish is of no significance. Wax or oil is mandatory for utility vessels such as salad bowls or kitchen utensils. 4) Multiple coats of lacquer (10 to 30) applied over several days and when allowed to cure for 30 or more days, can be polished to a brilliant mirror-like finish. This is the finish of choice for art and display-only pieces bringing top dollars such as in a gallery. Try to do better each time than the time before and you will quickly reach Master Status Skill Sets. Consider the end use for what you are making and decide how much time you can devote to making something perfect or just good enough. Remember that wherever you go, there you are. Here is my inspiration for this message: (2Sam 22:31 [AMP]) As for God, His way is perfect; the word of the Lord is tried. He is a Shield to all those who trust and take refuge in Him (Ps 19:7 [AMP]) The law of the Lord is perfect, restoring the [whole] person; the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple (Ps 119:96 [AMP]) I have seen that everything [human] has its limits and end [no matter how extensive, noble, and excellent]; but Your commandment is exceedingly broad and extends without limits [into eternity]. (Phil 3:13-14 [NIV2]) Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus. In Case You Didn't Know, we manufacture most of what we offer on our website in our own facility in Lawrenceville, Georgia USA (Atlanta Area). Here is the current list as of Aug, 2024: 40-40 Grind Set Up Block Amazing Doughnut Chuck Amazing Hollowing Stabilizer Bowl Bottom Thickness Finder Bowl From A Board E
Re: Mounting Hub / Index Hub Dimensions
DanK, Thanks for your input. To answer your question - yes, I'd pay $20 for a set of 4 - seems to be a fair price. Of course another part of the process is what will S&H come to. When I'm estimating the potential S&H charge (when I don't know where the buyer will be), I calculate a couple. I pick a Zip code in Pac NW (one north of Seattle); one in So Cal., and one in either Miami or northern Maine. I pick the most expensive of the 3-4 Zips - then round up to nearest dollar - and add in an appropriate amount for the container I use to mail it in. If using USPS Priority Mail, I don't add cost of container unless I'm not able to fit item into a USPS mailing box or pouch. If a person were to order multiple sets of 4, the S&H could reflect some savings if they are all packaged together. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 22, 2024 9:23 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Mounting Hub / Index Hub Dimensions I would consider making a bunch if I could find a place to laser cut the outline and holes. I could provide the laser cutter with a 2D drawing that he could load into G code for the laser. I have a press that would bend the legs in a form made for the purpose. Then I would sell them in packages of four. This might be a cost effective means to get some made. Would the market bear $20 bill for a set of four? I have no idea if anyone in my area has the equipment, but I'll start checking around. DanK On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 8:56:42 AM UTC-4 Ken Fisher wrote: Thanks Curt, I was really referring to if a person was to pursue having these made in quantity what would be a fair and reasonable price that members of the group would pay? I’m sure it will differ some across the spectrum. Those who are capable and have the equipment to make them themselves would probably not want to pay as much as the individual that doesn’t have these things. Then there are those of course that can make them but would rather buy such an item verses spending their time making them. Does anyone know what the last price was you could purchase them for from Legacy? Like Tim I know a couple guys who may be interested in making a run of these but no one is going to want to do a dozen of them. It would become cost prohibitive. Ken F -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/9b604d04-e528-ba8e-250c-eef60d1566f7%40earthlink.net.
RE: smile for today
The "Kiwi's" will hate on you for that, Bill! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 21, 2024 9:46 PM To: Subject: RE: smile for today No that only happens in New Zealand lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2024 11:38 PM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: OT: smile for today Bill, is this a problem in Australia? I've never been there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/34f54c9b-8567-2058-652a-e82a78fe0038%40earthlink.net.
RE: Mounting Hub / Index Hub Dimensions
Rumor has it that Tim Z. knows a guy "Really well" that could crank them out if there are folks willing to pay for them. Shoot Tim a note if you want to know more. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 20, 2024 1:32 AM To: Subject: RE: Mounting Hub / Index Hub Dimensions If you have any metal work experience drive hubs are not too difficult to make cut a blank out of metal plate drill the 5 holes in the middle Get a square steel bar the right size drill and tap corresponding holes in it, bolt the blank to the square bar heat the blank up with a flame and with a hammer bend each point of the blank over to 90 degrees and you have a ready to use drive hub if I didn’t have plenty myself I would make whatever I needed Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2024 1:30 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mounting Hub / Index Hub Dimensions the last I checked with Cindy they no longer carry the dogs for our LOM's. You may have to have someone custom make a few unless like Bill said someone will sell you some. They are a rather hot commodity. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 9:02 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: Also perhaps you can buy one or two drive hubs from legacy or a member who has spares so you can make more . if your mill is a revo and want to go down the chuck path I suggest getting a record power SC1 or SC2 mini chuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHnLzlAsPek I own the SC1 with all the different jaws and I love it for the revo mill it grips the wood on about the same dia as the drive hub perfect for small work right up to 6 inch dia the capacity of the revo. I think it was Tim M that had a revo mind you, you can use the small chucks on the normal mill too. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/cb189a3e-562a-6828-790c-129980181e20%40earthlink.net.
Re: LOM 500 for sale
Hi Dick, Welcome to "The Group"! Thanks for including the video of your LOM 500. It will be of interest to anyone contemplating adding a "pony" to their "Herd" - like Tim Z., Joe B., Bill B., etc. (Tim's herd is huge - and growing; Joe B. has a couple Super-sized Clydesdales! LoL!) As an aside/For what it's worth - for ALL of us that make videos (even ones for posting to Facebook, CraigsList, etc.): A friend of mine is a "professional videographer" and he passed this tip on to our woodworkers' guild. When wanting to make a video of something you want to share like a guild meeting, FB Marketplace, CL, etc. Take a video of the subject - covering all aspects in a logical order - front side(s), back, top, bottom, etc. Then make note of the duration from start to finish. Now, go back and video the same thing again - only take THREE TIMES LONGER to make a repeat of what you did the first time. We tried it - and were amazed at how much better the results were! (Keep in mind, if a person finds your video "too slow" they can often speed it up - but slowing it down does not yield very satisfactory results. (Note: This does not quite apply to a training video like Bill makes. I think he already applies this technique/procedure when he make a video.) Have a Fun-filled weekend everyone! Schools are starting back and your children/grandchildren are headed back to school. So please drive extra careful when in the areas of bus stops and school zones. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 16, 2024 12:49 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: LOM 500 for sale Welcome to the Group Dick. The Legacy is a very good tool, but it can take some time to learn how to fully use it, to its fullest potential. Its not hard, (Hey, If I can do it, Anyone can learn how to use the Legacy.) ;-) Have a good night. C.A.G. On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 12:13:50 AM EDT, Richard Demerath wrote: Hi, my name is Dick Demerath. 4 years ago I purchased a LOM Model 1500 to use when I retired. Along with it came a LOM 500. I am now retired and am getting ready to jump in and see what this machine can do. I always wanted one after seeing demos of it at the woodworking shows many years ago. The shop I have does not have the room for all these toys so I am going to sell the 500 as I don't need both. I asking $400 but would be willing to take less as I'm not sure what its worth. As soon as I finish the trim in my house I plan an taking the 1500 out and figuring out how to use it.On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 8:20:23 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote: https://www.facebook.com/share/5yZyN512ZWGkz3Ch/Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1e70fa21-83c0-e03e-cc11-b148587e5ff3%40earthlink.net.
RE: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip
Bill, Spot on! You got it exactly right! LoL! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 11, 2024 3:57 AM To: Subject: RE: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip Well I thought it meant because I’m upside down I see all words backwards so you love me lol evol backwards Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2024 3:01 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip Bill, Did you, Tim, or anyone figure out the "cryptic" comment I made to Bill following my remarks to DanK in my last post (to DanK and all ya'll)? Here it is again: We Evol you Bill! (Anyone figure that one out?) Keep in mind where Bill is and what "life is like there". Mac -Original Message- From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Aug 10, 2024 11:29 PM To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: RE: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip Well I try mac lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2024 9:31 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) Subject: Re: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip DanK LoL!! I am happy to see that someone else in "The Group" realizes that Bill's world is very different than ours - that everything is upside down and when he drops something, he has to retrieve it off the ceiling, that their saying is: "Lefty Tighty, Righty Loosey", etc.!! We Evol you Bill! (Anyone figure that one out?) Mac -Original Message- From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Aug 10, 2024 9:19 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: Re: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip I haven't gone to check mine... been slammed really hard with massive infection probably UTI that has taken all my energy and motivation. If clearance is a problem, I don't see an issue of grinding a few thousandths off the OD being careful to use a very fine grit to prevent cracks AMAP. Just what is needed, nothing more. Better yet, reduce the cap screw head because then future replacements won't need to be messed with. I have a stash of such "sproing" clipssometimes as hard to find as the flying original. As last resort, contact Bill. Since everything up here falls DOWN, perhaps he can see it. A big magnet on a string is your friend for such recovery. The voices in my head came up with a great ideaa really big magnet so when Bill goes to the shop he wonders why all his tools are on the ceiling! LOL. I'll see myself out. DanK On Saturday, August 10, 2024 at 6:55:23 AM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote: Yeah I will go out and look at mine too. It does seem rather large? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 (tel:(320)%20294-5798) shop 320-630-2243 (tel:(320)%20630-2243) cell On Sat, Aug 10, 2024 at 1:05 AM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: That dose not look like the original sir clip we call them the original is smaller in dia you can sort of see in this magnified image compared to your image Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of Tim Maxwell Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2024 2:24 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> Subject: Re: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip Curt thank you for the photo. I managed to find the original clip so I will post some pictures incase another member has a similar issue. This is on a Revo model and it appears to be a standard black e-clip instead of the yellowish/gold reinforced type. Of note to Revo users, there is not enough clearance for the clip rotate 360 degrees with the shaft so spinning the pin shaft could dislodge the clip. Tim Maxwell On Friday, August 9, 2024 at 1:03:19 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote: Tim this is not a good photo. but its the only one that I can find at this time. C.A.G. On Friday, August 9, 2024 at 12:41:47 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Hello Tim Depending on the modal of Legacy and the year, the locking pin changed a little, On my 1000ex there was a spring and bracket and a spring retaining ring to hold the indexing system together. The spring and bracket worked on friction to hold the lock away form the indexing gear when you were not using it. On latter units, I have seen slight differences form what I have, But I do also own a indexing
RE: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip
-Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 11, 2024 3:57 AM To: Subject: RE: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip Well I thought it meant because I’m upside down I see all words backwards so you love me lol evol backwards Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2024 3:01 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip Bill, Did you, Tim, or anyone figure out the "cryptic" comment I made to Bill following my remarks to DanK in my last post (to DanK and all ya'll)? Here it is again: We Evol you Bill! (Anyone figure that one out?) Keep in mind where Bill is and what "life is like there". Mac -Original Message- From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Aug 10, 2024 11:29 PM To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: RE: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip Well I try mac lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2024 9:31 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) Subject: Re: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip DanK LoL!! I am happy to see that someone else in "The Group" realizes that Bill's world is very different than ours - that everything is upside down and when he drops something, he has to retrieve it off the ceiling, that their saying is: "Lefty Tighty, Righty Loosey", etc.!! We Evol you Bill! (Anyone figure that one out?) Mac -Original Message- From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Aug 10, 2024 9:19 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: Re: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip I haven't gone to check mine... been slammed really hard with massive infection probably UTI that has taken all my energy and motivation. If clearance is a problem, I don't see an issue of grinding a few thousandths off the OD being careful to use a very fine grit to prevent cracks AMAP. Just what is needed, nothing more. Better yet, reduce the cap screw head because then future replacements won't need to be messed with. I have a stash of such "sproing" clipssometimes as hard to find as the flying original. As last resort, contact Bill. Since everything up here falls DOWN, perhaps he can see it. A big magnet on a string is your friend for such recovery. The voices in my head came up with a great ideaa really big magnet so when Bill goes to the shop he wonders why all his tools are on the ceiling! LOL. I'll see myself out. DanK On Saturday, August 10, 2024 at 6:55:23 AM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote: Yeah I will go out and look at mine too. It does seem rather large? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 (tel:(320)%20294-5798) shop 320-630-2243 (tel:(320)%20630-2243) cell On Sat, Aug 10, 2024 at 1:05 AM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: That dose not look like the original sir clip we call them the original is smaller in dia you can sort of see in this magnified image compared to your image Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of Tim Maxwell Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2024 2:24 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> Subject: Re: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip Curt thank you for the photo. I managed to find the original clip so I will post some pictures incase another member has a similar issue. This is on a Revo model and it appears to be a standard black e-clip instead of the yellowish/gold reinforced type. Of note to Revo users, there is not enough clearance for the clip rotate 360 degrees with the shaft so spinning the pin shaft could dislodge the clip. Tim Maxwell On Friday, August 9, 2024 at 1:03:19 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote: Tim this is not a good photo. but its the only one that I can find at this time. C.A.G. On Friday, August 9, 2024 at 12:41:47 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Hello Tim Depending on the modal of Legacy and the year, the locking pin changed a little, On my 1000ex there was a spring and bracket and a spring retaining ring to hold the indexing system together. The spring and bracket worked on friction to hold the lock away form the indexing gear when you were not using it. On latter units, I have seen slight differences form what I have, But I do also own a indexing system with two indexing pins which are locked in p
RE: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip
Bill, Did you, Tim, or anyone figure out the "cryptic" comment I made to Bill following my remarks to DanK in my last post (to DanK and all ya'll)? Here it is again: We Evol you Bill! (Anyone figure that one out?) Keep in mind where Bill is and what "life is like there". Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 10, 2024 11:29 PM To: Subject: RE: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip Well I try mac lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2024 9:31 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip DanK LoL!! I am happy to see that someone else in "The Group" realizes that Bill's world is very different than ours - that everything is upside down and when he drops something, he has to retrieve it off the ceiling, that their saying is: "Lefty Tighty, Righty Loosey", etc.!! We Evol you Bill! (Anyone figure that one out?) Mac -Original Message- From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Aug 10, 2024 9:19 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: Re: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip I haven't gone to check mine... been slammed really hard with massive infection probably UTI that has taken all my energy and motivation. If clearance is a problem, I don't see an issue of grinding a few thousandths off the OD being careful to use a very fine grit to prevent cracks AMAP. Just what is needed, nothing more. Better yet, reduce the cap screw head because then future replacements won't need to be messed with. I have a stash of such "sproing" clipssometimes as hard to find as the flying original. As last resort, contact Bill. Since everything up here falls DOWN, perhaps he can see it. A big magnet on a string is your friend for such recovery. The voices in my head came up with a great ideaa really big magnet so when Bill goes to the shop he wonders why all his tools are on the ceiling! LOL. I'll see myself out. DanK On Saturday, August 10, 2024 at 6:55:23 AM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote: Yeah I will go out and look at mine too. It does seem rather large? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 (tel:(320)%20294-5798) shop 320-630-2243 (tel:(320)%20630-2243) cell On Sat, Aug 10, 2024 at 1:05 AM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: That dose not look like the original sir clip we call them the original is smaller in dia you can sort of see in this magnified image compared to your image Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of Tim Maxwell Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2024 2:24 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> Subject: Re: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip Curt thank you for the photo. I managed to find the original clip so I will post some pictures incase another member has a similar issue. This is on a Revo model and it appears to be a standard black e-clip instead of the yellowish/gold reinforced type. Of note to Revo users, there is not enough clearance for the clip rotate 360 degrees with the shaft so spinning the pin shaft could dislodge the clip. Tim Maxwell On Friday, August 9, 2024 at 1:03:19 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote: Tim this is not a good photo. but its the only one that I can find at this time. C.A.G. On Friday, August 9, 2024 at 12:41:47 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Hello Tim Depending on the modal of Legacy and the year, the locking pin changed a little, On my 1000ex there was a spring and bracket and a spring retaining ring to hold the indexing system together. The spring and bracket worked on friction to hold the lock away form the indexing gear when you were not using it. On latter units, I have seen slight differences form what I have, But I do also own a indexing system with two indexing pins which are locked in place with small shaft collars. and Ive also seen a locking pin/lever which holds the pin locked when not in use. If you could take a photo of what you have, It might be easer to figure out if something was lost or damaged? ( I cant find any off-hand photo's of this indexing pin at this time. but I will keep looking. Perhaps tomorrow I can go out and see if I can find one to photograph for you? ) Best of luck on this problem. have a good night. C.A.G. On Friday, August 9, 2024 at 12:17:06 AM EDT, Tim Maxwell mailto:eec...@gmail.com)> wrote: Does the spring in the index pin assembly push against a standard e-clip (radially applied retaining clip)
Re: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip
DanK LoL!! I am happy to see that someone else in "The Group" realizes that Bill's world is very different than ours - that everything is upside down and when he drops something, he has to retrieve it off the ceiling, that their saying is: "Lefty Tighty, Righty Loosey", etc.!! We Evol you Bill! (Anyone figure that one out?) Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 10, 2024 9:19 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip I haven't gone to check mine... been slammed really hard with massive infection probably UTI that has taken all my energy and motivation. If clearance is a problem, I don't see an issue of grinding a few thousandths off the OD being careful to use a very fine grit to prevent cracks AMAP. Just what is needed, nothing more. Better yet, reduce the cap screw head because then future replacements won't need to be messed with. I have a stash of such "sproing" clipssometimes as hard to find as the flying original. As last resort, contact Bill. Since everything up here falls DOWN, perhaps he can see it. A big magnet on a string is your friend for such recovery. The voices in my head came up with a great ideaa really big magnet so when Bill goes to the shop he wonders why all his tools are on the ceiling! LOL. I'll see myself out. DanK On Saturday, August 10, 2024 at 6:55:23 AM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote: Yeah I will go out and look at mine too. It does seem rather large? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 (tel:(320)%20294-5798) shop 320-630-2243 (tel:(320)%20630-2243) cell On Sat, Aug 10, 2024 at 1:05 AM wrote: That dose not look like the original sir clip we call them the original is smaller in dia you can sort of see in this magnified image compared to your image Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Maxwell Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2024 2:24 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Index Pin Assembly/Spring Clip Curt thank you for the photo. I managed to find the original clip so I will post some pictures incase another member has a similar issue. This is on a Revo model and it appears to be a standard black e-clip instead of the yellowish/gold reinforced type. Of note to Revo users, there is not enough clearance for the clip rotate 360 degrees with the shaft so spinning the pin shaft could dislodge the clip. Tim Maxwell On Friday, August 9, 2024 at 1:03:19 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote: Tim this is not a good photo. but its the only one that I can find at this time. C.A.G. On Friday, August 9, 2024 at 12:41:47 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: Hello Tim Depending on the modal of Legacy and the year, the locking pin changed a little, On my 1000ex there was a spring and bracket and a spring retaining ring to hold the indexing system together. The spring and bracket worked on friction to hold the lock away form the indexing gear when you were not using it. On latter units, I have seen slight differences form what I have, But I do also own a indexing system with two indexing pins which are locked in place with small shaft collars. and Ive also seen a locking pin/lever which holds the pin locked when not in use. If you could take a photo of what you have, It might be easer to figure out if something was lost or damaged? ( I cant find any off-hand photo's of this indexing pin at this time. but I will keep looking. Perhaps tomorrow I can go out and see if I can find one to photograph for you? ) Best of luck on this problem. have a good night. C.A.G. On Friday, August 9, 2024 at 12:17:06 AM EDT, Tim Maxwell wrote: Does the spring in the index pin assembly push against a standard e-clip (radially applied retaining clip) or a specialty/reinforced clip? While trying to loosen/clean/lube a sticking indexing pin I heard a part go flying and suddenly there was no tension on the spring. It appears the retaining clip liberated itself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/51f6bd45-3fa1-48a5-a4ae-7428f3ab9ea3n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1170642035.2978115.1723178502044%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: Fwd: Turn Up the Savings: Up to 25% Off Lathe Accessories!
Tim, Thanks. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 9, 2024 8:15 PM To: LOM Group Subject: Fwd: Turn Up the Savings: Up to 25% Off Lathe Accessories! Hey all, It was suggested we should share this, as many of us have the Shop Smith too. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/dc0d02d9-1d28-5af9-184f-63946e88acab%40earthlink.net.
Re: Headstock Bearing Modification
Jeff, I sent you a reply directly to you last night - did you get it? Thanks. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 8, 2024 12:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Headstock Bearing Modification I have a head stock with bearings if I can help anyone. Looks as though it is a little higher than regular headstock On Wed, Aug 7, 2024, 10:18 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Awesome Video Bill. Thank you. C.A.G. On Wednesday, August 7, 2024 at 10:38:58 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au (mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au) mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFwdSXKFAbI&t=48s&ab_channel=aussiman77181 here is a video of one of my spindle motors, I did similar to you curt I used a swing away motor but mine meshes strait into the legacy gears and by using all the different dia legacy gears you can obtain an amazing amount of different spindle speeds if desired, you can see it spinning at many speeds on an old square spiral test piece I was playing around with when I was building the rotary cross slide not that you need all those speeds it just worked out that way so I thought why not lol Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2024 11:17 PM To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: Re: Headstock Bearing Modification TRY THIS AGAIN. Good morning everyone. Bill, I think adding those few MOD's that I talked about , really makes the Legacy into a machine that is second to none. I just wish that I could get others with-in the group to try to make some of these modifications for there machines as well. If someone breaks it down into some simple step-by-step process, all of these MOD's are very easy to make, and none cost a lot of money to do. As far as the Motor drives for both the Legacy and the Wood Chuck Mill. These were Legacy's ideas at the first, but for some reasons, Legacy did not carry on with the spindle drive motor until the 2000 modals came around. And as far as the drive motor, at the time Legacy wanted $1000.00 for the motor. (which is the reason why I did not buy it at the first, for my machine.) For me, I was able to find a 90 volt DC motor (Second hand) for much less. (NOTE: I am not trying to put Legacy down in any way with these statements, I only stated that I could not afford the price at that time. The Motor was 1/3 of the price for the hole machine.) The DC Motor was not the same as Legacy used, but I was able to make it work with a sprocket and chain, plus an off-set bracket. (Note: Legacy direct drive/coupler on the Acme screw is a better way to get the job done. But what I did works for me.) ;-) I am putting a few pix's of the motor's that Ive used for my drive. the first is a normal #35 chain. the next two are what I used today. and Timing chain and sprocket form a 1995 Audi (automobile, given to me from my local garage/mechanic. ) I have to run now. Take care everyone. And have a great day. C.A.G. On Wednesday, August 7, 2024 at 08:46:26 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Hello and Good morning, (Everyone) Bill, I think adding those few MOD's that I talked about , really makes the Legacy into a machine that is second to none. I just wish that I could get others with-in the group to try to make some of these modifications for there machines as well. AND YES! that cross slide is Awesome! Perhaps you could make another video on how its used to make square ropes? I've seen the Wood Chuck's original cross slide first hand. (but if I'm honest, I'm still at a loss on how it works?) I must assume that the spindle is locked into place while cutting with the Y axis. And then the spindle is moved to make the rope on the next side.?. There has to be some kind of trick to keep the alignment? LETS MAKE THIS, CROSS SLIDE INTO IT'S OWN TOPIC. More on this on the next page. (so to speak.) ;-) C.A.G. On Wednesday, August 7, 2024 at 03:00:06 AM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: Ps I forgot to ask curt what did you think of my rotary cross slide video Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au (mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au) Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2024 4:33 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) Subject: RE: Headstock Bearing Modification I agree with having 2 motors on our mills it makes them so much more versatile especially template work as you said curt Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mi
Re: Transition Moulding strip on the 1200 LOM
Tim, Nice. TfS. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 3, 2024 10:24 AM To: LOM Group , Tim Ziegler Subject: Re: Transition Moulding strip on the 1200 LOM Finished up the transition moulding strips yesterday.I have added a couple pic's to show the final product. Not a big deal but sure was nice to run the top of this through the LOM. The bottom was done as I mentioned through the table saw. Simple and quick. Customer will be picking up soon. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 9:09 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> wrote: Good evening, Working on some transition moulding strips on my 1200 today. I maybe should have used my long moulding board, which is on my 1500 and I did not want to run, as the 1200 is more my pet. And it was cooler in the shop. lol 1500 is out in the garage. So these turned out really well. I did climb cut to keep the chipping down being I was running Hickory. I used one of my larger barley twist router bits. I ran one side then flipped the piece and ran the other side the same. Some sanding required. The picture of it on my bench above the Milwaukee drawer set is the finished piece on the top profile. I still have to run the rabbits which I will do on the table saw. The one piece was 96 inches so I ran that twice. I just end for ended it. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/13e1057b-9eb7-642b-d2b1-badfe95febdb%40earthlink.net.
Re: Transition Moulding strip on the 1200 LOM
Tim, Nice. TfS. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 3, 2024 10:24 AM To: LOM Group , Tim Ziegler Subject: Re: Transition Moulding strip on the 1200 LOM Finished up the transition moulding strips yesterday.I have added a couple pic's to show the final product. Not a big deal but sure was nice to run the top of this through the LOM. The bottom was done as I mentioned through the table saw. Simple and quick. Customer will be picking up soon. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 9:09 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> wrote: Good evening, Working on some transition moulding strips on my 1200 today. I maybe should have used my long moulding board, which is on my 1500 and I did not want to run, as the 1200 is more my pet. And it was cooler in the shop. lol 1500 is out in the garage. So these turned out really well. I did climb cut to keep the chipping down being I was running Hickory. I used one of my larger barley twist router bits. I ran one side then flipped the piece and ran the other side the same. Some sanding required. The picture of it on my bench above the Milwaukee drawer set is the finished piece on the top profile. I still have to run the rabbits which I will do on the table saw. The one piece was 96 inches so I ran that twice. I just end for ended it. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/cf703598-fd04-fe3e-962c-2bc05e5959e4%40earthlink.net.
Re: Transition Moulding strip on the 1200 LOM
Curtis, My guess is that hickory is a very durable wood - at least when used indoors. If expecting a lot of foot traffic - that's a very good choice. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 3, 2024 1:58 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Transition Moulding strip on the 1200 LOM Hey Tim. I like it! Nice job on that . Quick question, why hickory not another type of wood for your transition molding strips? C.A.G. On Saturday, August 3, 2024 at 10:24:14 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler wrote: Finished up the transition moulding strips yesterday.I have added a couple pic's to show the final product. Not a big deal but sure was nice to run the top of this through the LOM. The bottom was done as I mentioned through the table saw. Simple and quick. Customer will be picking up soon. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 9:09 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> wrote: Good evening, Working on some transition moulding strips on my 1200 today. I maybe should have used my long moulding board, which is on my 1500 and I did not want to run, as the 1200 is more my pet. And it was cooler in the shop. lol 1500 is out in the garage. So these turned out really well. I did climb cut to keep the chipping down being I was running Hickory. I used one of my larger barley twist router bits. I ran one side then flipped the piece and ran the other side the same. Some sanding required. The picture of it on my bench above the Milwaukee drawer set is the finished piece on the top profile. I still have to run the rabbits which I will do on the table saw. The one piece was 96 inches so I ran that twice. I just end for ended it. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/340783ca-2e81-a5aa-cefa-89c2c4034c37%40earthlink.net.
Re: Transition Moulding strip on the 1200 LOM
Tim, Nice - thanks for sharing. When "milling the board: 1. Did you keep the router stationary - and pass the board thru the cutter? Or, with the cutter all the way to one end, did you position the board, run the gantry down the x-axis, lift cutter, reposition the board, and make second pass down board. Then repeat as needed to complete it? Since you actually cut the board going in one direction, then cut the other edge going in the other direction, you had to have run into grain direction challenges. How'd you work around them? Thanks again. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 1, 2024 10:10 PM To: LOM Group , Tim Ziegler Subject: Transition Moulding strip on the 1200 LOM Good evening, Working on some transition moulding strips on my 1200 today. I maybe should have used my long moulding board, which is on my 1500 and I did not want to run, as the 1200 is more my pet. And it was cooler in the shop. lol 1500 is out in the garage. So these turned out really well. I did climb cut to keep the chipping down being I was running Hickory. I used one of my larger barley twist router bits. I ran one side then flipped the piece and ran the other side the same. Some sanding required. The picture of it on my bench above the Milwaukee drawer set is the finished piece on the top profile. I still have to run the rabbits which I will do on the table saw. The one piece was 96 inches so I ran that twice. I just end for ended it. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/98a44cd8-a4a5-923f-e92d-fbfe621b282f%40earthlink.net.
RE: Motor Drive for LOM
Bill, EXCELLENT video! I am sure a number of "lurkers" (and some "regulars") will learn a lot from your videos.Thank you for sharing! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jul 28, 2024 3:18 AM To: Subject: RE: Motor Drive for LOM Ps here is a video on milling a spindle on the legacy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZrQhmNmlqU&t=354s&ab_channel=aussiman77181 It shows all different ways of turning wood including with drive motors. It’s done using a legacy revo mill which just like the normal mills but with one side removed which makes it easier to film and for people to see what your doing Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 4:12 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Motor Drive for LOM Looks like you have done a fine job making your own drive motor the only problem with that type of motor for me is the reduction gear is a worm drive and not strait gears they don’t let you turn the leadscrew by hand for fine adjustments or creeping up to a stop without disconnecting it is more difficult than relying just on the limit switch. The Chinese speed control work ok they just don’t last a long long time like the legacy one do I have 2 on head stock motors. Also the legacy motor they use is a 90 volt DC which runs at 0 to 112 rpm if I remember i can look it up if anyone wants. But hey if its all working ok and your totally happy with it great and best of all so much cheaper Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of Wayne Oldenburg Sent: Monday, July 22, 2024 1:50 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: Motor Drive for LOM I am new to this group and have enjoyed various discussions. I have noticed that a few people would like a motor drive for their mill, but they are expensive and hard to find. I built a motor drive for my LOM at a cost of less than $200. I am attaching a document that explains what I did. I hope it will help some of you. I would also welcome improvements that you may see. I am new to posting so I hope this woks. If not, you can email me directly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/4f9a8883-2fd4-4408-b976-22f071ecc180n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01dae0b5%2420500b30%2460f02190%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000901dae0be%244532b4d0%24cf981e70%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/5ed711dd-0480-456d-a33c-f9db0d2b032d%40earthlink.net.
RE: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00
Well stated, Bill. Thanks. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jul 23, 2024 12:14 PM To: Subject: RE: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00 I had the unique experience in my life of working for an American company here in oz years ago for over 20 years now because living in a metric country on a daily bases I worked in both metric and imperial depending on what job I had to make for which ever country it went to. we never converted sizes we just worked in whatever was needed on the blue prints so with tape measures, rulers or micrometres either in feet, inches, thousands of an inch , hundredths of a millimetre, millimetres, centimetres or meters it was all the same to me and still is.so don’t try and convert just think in both I guess its sort of like being able to speak 2 different languages. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2024 8:55 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00 Not sure I want to try and learn that all over again. I let that out of the brain more than 45 years ago. lol. I remember what 19mm is and thats only because I grab a 19MM wrench sometimes from my wrench set to twin up with 3/4. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 1:20 AM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net)> wrote: Tim, I, for one, wish we had converted to the metric system a century ago! Instead, we have been stuck with a real mixed bag of crap when it comes to measurements - length, volume, weight, etc. Thank you Great Britain! NOT!!! (Sorry, Brigitte!) If you know any cabinet shop pros (other than yourself) that have at least half a brain - they build in metric. The math is SO MUCH EASIER! Tim, you need to drop your pre-conceived notions/opinions and build just ONE project using metric measurements. You won't go back! Mac -Original Message- From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Jul 20, 2024 11:02 PM To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00 Yeah I am like you. I don't like the metric system so if possible avoid it like the plague lol. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 9:25 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Hey one last note. For those people like me. (not good with the metric system.) 1500mm (59") Is what I used depending on which rail you buy the price range could be $48.-$70. for two rails and bearings. and for this 500. the 1000 (39 23/64") for $48.00 would be a cheap investment for you Legacy. ;-) OK! Got'a run now. take care everyone. C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/fbca3b96-1d4f-f856-acc5-7f416196b008%40earthlink.net.
Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00
Tim, I, for one, wish we had converted to the metric system a century ago! Instead, we have been stuck with a real mixed bag of crap when it comes to measurements - length, volume, weight, etc. Thank you Great Britain! NOT!!! (Sorry, Brigitte!) If you know any cabinet shop pros (other than yourself) that have at least half a brain - they build in metric. The math is SO MUCH EASIER! Tim, you need to drop your pre-conceived notions/opinions and build just ONE project using metric measurements. You won't go back! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jul 20, 2024 11:02 PM To: Subject: Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00 Yeah I am like you. I don't like the metric system so if possible avoid it like the plague lol. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 9:25 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Hey one last note. For those people like me. (not good with the metric system.) 1500mm (59") Is what I used depending on which rail you buy the price range could be $48.-$70. for two rails and bearings. and for this 500. the 1000 (39 23/64") for $48.00 would be a cheap investment for you Legacy. ;-) OK! Got'a run now. take care everyone. C.A.G. On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 08:03:18 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Hey Guys. For the price, why not buy it and make your own Legacy/ machine, add linear rail (which is cheap at this time on Amazon.) (https://www.amazon.com/OrangeA-16-800mm-2xLinear-Automated-Equipments/dp/B07D9JRPG9/ref=sr_1_9?crid=3O6ZOCZLMJVC1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5nF2kpC9e06d4Uazs8esNr37KqhEKq7OrJtMqdrmRq5LVibABLK1FpefcGGJ4Ro5vOWB2-aotUxGTiSagK_B4KBYm7aYuhsZdXN8WCaGUbf-EpPLsv4Qx0mXG9jlGRD20zjqwNxrvi4NloFWqiL7G46TSvPXcu9TLOfBqSGJl-VcE4Z71BBTJQOCYDOjD3LMP4WOXp9hV-NRtWkmgO7aIJNUJA36ETG8k2qhu9BMd5g.drP49xafjzj1fSCPD5L17zPPzIoPwFI9Q-6CJSwnomU&dib_tag=se&keywords=16mm+linear+rail&qid=1721476678&sprefix=16mm+linear+rail%2Caps%2C92&sr=8-9 ) So you can make your own new, X,Y,Z axis's. The plastic gearing , although cheap quality, compared to the steel Legacy gears of the other machines, are useable, for most projects. While you are at it, why not switch or add a new acme screw to your machine? I used a 5/8-8 on my 200 and love it, By adding a new screw you can double the pitches you have with the gears. Perhaps a acme screw on each side of the Legacy would make things look cleaner, or add both on one side to make it more convenient for using...? I Have to run now. Legacy is not just a machine its an idea. Why not make your own? ;-) C.A.G. On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 07:41:23 AM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: Nothing special just would be nice to have a few spares Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 12:39 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)Subject: Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00 yeah we could price shipping for you Bill. Get a weight and size and we could price it for you. What gears are you still looking for? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 7:39 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: If it wasn’t for the shipping I might have bought it just to have the gears to play with Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/7f948b4c-9dae-f103-9b85-71725ec2bc21%40earthlink.net.
Re: Ornamental lathe for sale/Eye Candy.
Holy Cow!!! And I look at one of the upper end Leigh Dovetail Jigs and think: "Wow! There is WAY TOO MUCH to learn to get my money's worth if I were to buy this jig!" By comparison, the Leigh's would be a very short "short story" compared to a book - like the complete, unabridged Webster's Dictionary!! It would take a study effort at the level of getting a college PhD to just begin to get creative with all that Steve J. has here. Steve, Did you "earn" a PhD with this marvelous machine? Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jul 19, 2024 12:35 AM To: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: Ornamental lathe for sale/Eye Candy. This is what Dreams are made from. ;-) Enjoy! C.A.G. Steve Johnson has a Holtzapffel lathe, #1741 he is looking to sell. he describes it as: Not much is known of the history of this lathe, but it is one of the best equipped Holtz's still in existence, with a full height Cuban Mahogany cabinet equipped with fitted shelves for a wide variety of chucks and hand tools, and an under-cabinet of several drawers with the doors hung with Holtz turning tools. The lathe has riser blocks to allow for larger turnings than normal, and the bed is slightly longer than usual. There are also some Cuban Mahagony toolchest under the lathe (in the pictures) containing even more Holtz accessories, if I remember correctly a rose engine chuck, goniostat, and I forget the others. Steve is asking $80,000. The machine is located in Redmond, WA. Transport or pick up at buyer expense. I can recommend local crating and freight companies if needed. Steve Johnson, If you are interested, please contact Steve Johnson cascadianr...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1293167656.1385829.1721363740454%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/630b85cb-f57c-0c19-6fbe-b05f5bc6beb9%40earthlink.net.
Re: Red bone
If a pressure pot doesn't work (or work well enough) - give thought to trying a vacuum chamber. If it's able to suck the air out of the voids in the bone - the dye solution may replace it. Might be worth the try. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jul 8, 2024 11:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Red bone Also thinking about Easter bones LOL use Easter egg dye with vinegar to do the job. That and the pressure could make it absorb. It would have to be a post process or else it will cut away the color during milling. Mike OK On 7/8/2024 5:58 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote: Good morning Curt, Bill and all participating in this particular subject. Sorry we were camping these last 4 days and having family time so I stayed pretty quiet. lol. So to add to this subject as for dying the bone a certain have you considered a pressure pot Curt? That is how the guys get dye and stabilization to happen in the game call world. Not sure the length of time it would take to permeate into bone but worth a try. Just something to think about. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 9:51 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: I don't think I own blue? (the only reason why I own RED, was for an repair job I did some 15 yrs ago.) I will go out to the shop tomorrow and see what I have. Latter this week I can go to Wood Craft and see what dye they sell. C.A.G. On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 10:43:49 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: I don’t know red or perhaps blue Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2024 12:21 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)Subject: Re: Red bone HI Bill Perhaps? but I think the colors will only hold onto were the red is. but that's only a guess. What color would you suggest TO try? C.A.G. On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 10:02:05 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: How would soaking the bone in dye go for a more even color? Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2024 9:41 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)Subject: Re: Red bone I agree with you Bill. But in this case One bone had a red tint that just stood out to much. I figured, why not try? I sanded the bones down and then stained them with red dye. The dye only took ahold of the bone in cracks and in the one bone disks where the red tint was already. This one is a learning experience for me. What I did today was to try to repair any and all defected spindles that I had made over the past few years. I was able to salvage 3 bone handles,(Including the red bone.) there are still a few that I need to still try to repair sometime in the future. But at this time they will just sit and wait, for the day that, I either have to need, skill, or reason to spend the time to make there repairs. I am not hurting for bone at this time. I just finished up another batch of bone disks, (appx 400) and just now made some 8 new glued up blanks for more fun, to come. ;-) Have a good day, everyone. And Thank you Bill. C.A.G. On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 07:00:45 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: It’s different but I think I prefer the all white my self Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2024 2:46 AMTo: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)>Subject: Red bone Hello everyone. This bone turning had some red dye in some of the disks that could not be removed,(THE dye was from the red food coloring the supplier put into the bone) So I opted to stain the bone to match. I don't know if I'm happy with this or not? but it dose look different. ;-) Please let me know what you thing? C.A.G -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/134d06cf-0a48-df30-b9a3-fcd066c61846%40earthlink.net.
Re: Manual
John, THANK YOU - So VERY much! I am sure many members of this LOM Group will VERY MUCH Appreciate your help/kindness with the links to LOM-related documents. We wish you and yours a Safe, Happy, and Fun-filled Independence Day Celebration on Thursday the 4th! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jul 2, 2024 5:34 PM To: Subject: Re: Manual Hey everyone, Here is all the manuals that I could find. This is a dropbox link for you to download whatever ones you want - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4b0q959tgjmxi3j/AACPIMsz8WIiiveLBBoZXOzCa?dl=0 On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 3:21 PM Ken and Diana mailto:mman7...@gmail.com)> wrote: Sorry, I can't help with the manual for the model 900.Ken On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 9:08 AM J Joseph mailto:jj9614...@gmail.com)> wrote: Hi looking for a manual model 900 either printed or electronic version I can printLet me know cost and method op payment needed thanks for your help -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/aa418282-21b9-4018-a133-e48a053cf3bbn%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAE5s5cuy9XkN4Hn%3DgUovxzYWofGH_bMAf3RcRcMtBKVt6%2Bse2g%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAEQTEdJmeg%2BGGMOpdYHqJyiVpW_GWoVJzmRU34mWe-SiWbh03A%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/bb18ac08-788d-82a9-11a1-b3231ec252f1%40earthlink.net.
Re: wood bending with vinegar
Tim, You may want to state "Red Oak" - as White Oak has quite a different structure. The vinegar method possibly will not work on White Oak. Cheers! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jul 2, 2024 3:14 PM To: Subject: Re: wood bending with vinegar yeah might be worth a try. But if you don't have open pore wood like Ash and Oak you may not have a great deal of success. But sure worth messing around with for sure. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 1:05 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: I have done a little bending with steam with some success but aussi timbers for me don’t seem to like bending much perhaps using white vinegar might be better I will have to try it. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2024 9:01 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) Subject: Re: wood bending with vinegar Hey Bill, Thanks, this seems like a great alternative to having to set up a steam bender. I have plans for one but have not pursued it. The concept of using white vinegar seems relatively simple and does take more prep time, but is simple. I have dones some bending but mostly kerf bending and some heat bending over a pipe, a trick I learned from George VonDriska. Over all I think all of us should have some technique of bending down and I think this one you mentioned would be pretty simple to use. Thanks for sharing. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 1:47 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: Found this anyone done this? some of you guys might find it interesting https://woodworkly.com/how-to-bend-wood-with-vinegar/ Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001301dacc4b%24b171a700%241454f500%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLFUvsLwPfga4a6VyTAqvyn3gTPiSYiKAjvCbEtXgDErhQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01daccaa%2460a73b50%2421f5b1f0%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLEgHcm_jJCR1ZSeHZS6PhMKiKRUsjHXm1zeeiyLWA66Xw%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/5ec3507c-366f-e600-848a-1841279516c0%40earthlink.net.
Re: Rotary Table mod.
Tim, Nothing - no pics were in this and the other you sent about the same time. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jun 26, 2024 6:51 PM To: LOM Group , Tim Ziegler , MWF Subject: Re: Rotary Table mod. Has anyone had any problems opening these pix? Mac will these open now? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 6:40 AM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> wrote: Good morning, As we have been talking about some mods to the mills here is one that I did to help me repair a bowl I was doing on the lathe originally but after blowing the bottom apart I needed to add a piece and recenter and re-round it. I had my brother make an adapter so I could incorporate the LongWorth Chuck to it. I also needed to drop the rails down so I made a special set that are mounted below the standard set of rails. Again all removable to bring the machine back to it's originality. See pix. Questions welcomed. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/b094ad92-f0ba-2610-7a89-58874d207bbb%40earthlink.net.
Re: A little Decoration
Tim, Nice! You love your Revo so much - I'll guess you made it using your Revo. Thanks for sharing. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jun 22, 2024 11:06 PM To: LOM Group Subject: A little Decoration Hello all, Attached are a couple images of a piece of material that I did a little experiment on tonight. Any guesses to what I did it one? I'm telling you this thing is a lot of fun. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLHLUitKBDTY6hbbjAH38sBUOTvwFvZ3tC7_zDxvicvwsg%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/910dc522-9609-258a-876e-059336d092cb%40earthlink.net.
RE: LEGACY FOR SALE
Bill, Here's your chance! Theres enough there for you to charter a 40 foot ISO shipping container, fill it with these LOM's and all the related accessories, and have it shipped out of the Port of Baltimore (in Maryland) to your nearest port Down Under! And, if there is any space left once the LOMs are loaded, fill them with a bunch of wood from here. Keep us posted! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jun 22, 2024 5:38 AM To: Subject: RE: LEGACY FOR SALE Yes I was to understand it was for the whole lot I don’t like his chances for a sale at 8K Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2024 1:05 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: LEGACY FOR SALE That is a lot of LOM's at one sitting. We can spread the word and keep this post active so it helps you in selling. So you're selling each machine and including its own parts then? I am pretty sure no one can afford the whole group of machines. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 4:22 PM Donald Donley mailto:apteryx...@gmail.com)> wrote: For Sale Professional Grade LEGACY 1800 HEALTH Issues are driving this sale It was only 70% assembled and never used by the owner. I kept this unit (I had 6 complete LOMS) and hundreds of parts, accessories, and Magnate Router Bits from the other units when we relocated to Southern Maryland. There is more than $20,000.00 worth of many new and some slightly used accessories. I have more than 90 pictures of the items in the 6 totes that go with the machine. I WILL SELL ONLY AS A PACKAGE. YOU CAN KEEP WHAT YOU WANT AND SELL WHAT YOU DON’T. The price is $8,000.00 or best cash offer I will post as much as the site permits. Thank You! LEGACY #1 Router Frame 2 Lathe Centers Elevation Supports – 2 Supports – 2 PC Routers with Base, Plunge router 3 ¼ HP – 2 Router Bit Rack Ball Socket Allen Wrenches – 3 Router Tracer Base 4 Pc Bracket Support Drive Unit with Index Support Bracket LEGACY #2 Router Drive Elevation Support – 2 Router Support – 2 Elevation Bracket – 3 pc. 1000/1500 Ex Duplex Gear 1000/1500 Ex Index Gear Hand Crank – 2 Gear Assembly Index Shaft Support – 4 Horizontal Support Half Nut – 3 Drive Shaft Support – 4 Drive Gear Small Plastic Spacers – 9 Square Connectors – 13 L Connectors – 2 Elevation Connectors – 2 2 Bolt Connectors – 13 3 Bolt Connectors – 2 Variety Bolts Tail Stock Drive Jacobs Chuck Lathe Face Plate – 2 Router Base 3” Face Plate Allen Wrenches – 6 Shim – 2 Lathe Chuck Wrench – 2 Drive Pin Headstock Form (Octagon) Eliminator Chuck – 2 Short 80/20 – 2 Hand Cranks – 2 Brackets – 4 Gear Supports – 2 Bracket Supports – 4 Triangle Supports – 2 Feet – 4 Router Wrench – 4 Bolts – 3 – Bags Ball Allen Wrench Dogs – 2 Drive Gears – 2 Spacers – 2 Dust Blocker Horizontal Bench Vice – 2 - Box Thin Stock Support - Box Spindle Pattern - Box Eliminator Chuck - Box Right Hand Spiral Drive - Box Dogs – 6 – Box Template Follower - Box LEGACY #3 4” Binder with hundreds of pages of projects Assembly Instructions 200/ 800/ 900/ 1200/ 1800/ 2000 and Accessories / Owner Manuals – 4 Ornamental Milling – 4 Magnate – 3 DVR Model 800 EX – 1 Contour Follower – 1 DVR Projects 1-5, 6-10 Hollow Spirals – 1 Design Kit DVD – Training DVD (1&2) – 2, Demo – 3, Model 900, Legacy Design Kit Design Kit Garden Arbor Legacy Design Kit with Templates Index Hubs (Box) Router Reducer X and Z Table – Hardware Handle Drive Gears Ball Allen Wrenches – 3 3” 3-Ring Binder – Projects, etc. Ornamental Milling Volume 7 1” 3-Ring Binder – Manuals, etc. – 3 Binders, Manuals/Assembly – 3 Magnate Bit Profiles Accessories, Manuals, etc. MAGNATE ROUTER BITS 3952 - Classic Spiral 3934 - Classic Plunge 2704 - Bottom Cleaning Bit 7571 - Rope Molding 7551 - Barley Twist 7561 - Shallow C/PT 5463 – Bird Mouth 3952 – Classic Spiral - 2 5567 – Horizontal Crown 7563 – Shallow C/PT 3482 – Double Bead Plunge 1285 – Plunge Flat Roundover 810 – Core Box 351 – Plunge Bottom 7501 – Plunge Point Round 7561 – Shallow Classic 3481 – Double Bead Plunge 7531 – Rope Molding 8270 – Straight Bits 1282 – Plunge Flat Round 5265B – Straight Bit 7554 – Barley Twist 809 – Core Box Bits 3934 – Classic Plunge 2704 – Bottom Cleaning Bit S263 – Straight Bits S7802 – Bowl & Tray 807 – Core Box Bits 2704 – Bottom Cleaning Bit 3935 – Classic Plunge 7562 – Shallow Classic Point S-7623 – Pattern 7581 – Rope Molding 709 – V Grooving Bit 7676 – Side Reeding 805 – Core Box 706 – 90 degree V Grooving 3933 – Classic Plunge 3484 – Double Bead Plunge 7502 – Plunge Point Round 7592 – Rope Molding Dust Cover for 1800 LOM DVD – Assembly/Fast Start DVD – Ornamental Milling Projects 1-10 (2 DVDs) 60” EX Cover LOM 400 Assembly/Owner’s Manual Accessory Folders - 4 LEGACY #4 Rotary Table Rotary Table with Mounting
Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual
Hi Group, Just a reminder - when you reply to posts here, PLEASE strip off any attachments, photos, etc. that are not needed to convey your question/comment. Lately, this one and several others have been huge (5MB+) and fill up email accounts - especially when several folks reply to a post. That one 5MB post can end up loading my mail box with 15 to 20+ MBs - when some of thos replies are only a "Very nice - Thanks" kind of replies. Thank you. Mill on! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: May 29, 2024 12:27 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Legacy Ornamental 1000 Mill Instruction Manual Hello Chris. As a little side bar to this ... I for one would rather show you how to use your equipment/Legacy to get the most out of your machine, then sell all the parts. Once gone its gone. Your Legacy could be used to make one amazing machine, ONE that could be used with your CNC and or surpass your CNC capability's all together. All depending on your wants and needs/projects planned. If you are looking to make money with your Legacy, I would suggest to talk to Mike Pung. He made a very good living using his Wood Chuck Mill. (the early model Legacy LOM.) Here are some of his videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqZZkCp7tI&t=12s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw&t=18s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o&t=41s C.A.G. On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 12:31:56 AM EDT, Chris Liska wrote: i can't post the manual. i get a message is too long error. and posting pictures seems to be challenging as well. On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 8:36:52 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote: Hello Again Chris. (Im off from work early today.) Legacy use to say for there logo. "Legacy where the only Limitation is your Imagination" Mike Pung put out a few video's on different methods to get the most out of your Legacy. (A few years back.) that are both very good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o&t=31s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw&t=13s OUR archives are loaded with good info to get the most form your Legacy, all that you have to do is look for it. (OR ASK the GROUP and I know someone in the group will be all to willing to help you out.) I would guess the Next step for you is to figure out what you want to make then you can try to see how to use your tools to get the job done the best you can. I like to tell everyone. The Legacy is a very good tool, but its the Craftsman who makes the art, not the tool, by its self. Take care. and have a GREAT Memorial Day! C.A.G. On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 2:05:34 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote: Hello Chris. I would like to help you, sadly the manual you refer to is not in your e-mail to the group. Could you send us a photo of your machine. Legacy over the years made a number of different modals. the 1000/ Alum. rail was made with 3 different length of rail, but the basic machine is the same . How many gear sets do you have? Legacy made 3 set of gears for the 1000. the standard, .25 and X2 gear sets. each gear set will give you a number of different pitches that the Legacy can make. There are two directional gear sets, one for right and one for left handed ropes. The Legacy is a very useful tool, for not only spindles, but it can also do flat work, like moldings and joinery. as well as basic lathe type of work, but what is really excels at is roping and advance lathe type of work, for things like chairs and staircases and decorative furniture . Bill. (Aussiman77181), has a web site, that shows a number of different projects.https://www.youtube.com/@aussiman77181 The Groups archives are open to you. I hope to talk to you more, latter. Have a good night. C.A.G. On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 01:43:02 AM EDT, Chris Liska wrote: A few years ago I purchased a tool lot (table saw, router table, jointer, planer, floor drill press, dust collector, air filter, lathe, radial arm saw, plus more) and it included the ornamental mill (which i had NO idea what it was at the time. however, it didn't matter b/c the price was right for the rest of the lot with or without this thing). the entire lot had been stored in a warehouse and abused by mice (and possibly other vermin). I've spent the past few years cleaning things and setting up the shop, and i'm now finally getting around to looking at the ornamental mill. I'm still not entirely sure i'm going to keep it, but if i'm going to try to sell it, i want to make sure it's fully operational and not missing anything. i've contacted legacy woodworking, and they sent me a manual (attached), or at least, most of it. i think it's missing pages, and was hoping someone has something in PDF form. it did come with a paper manual, and some project plans; and while the project plans are near mint, i'm pretty sure the giant manual was used as a nest, b/c a large portion is unusable. -- You received this me
Re: Eccentric milling
Bill, Nice video - thanks for sharing! Now - if you will just post a photo or two of the finished product. Thanks. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: May 27, 2024 7:24 PM To: Subject: Eccentric milling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUVSzVQqus&ab_channel=aussiman77181 this came up in an email I received about Eccentric chucks so I thought I would repost this video its been over 2 years since I made this I first saw the idea done on a wood lathe so I thought why not do it on the legacy so I did, always good to show the many possibilities of our mills. this was done on the revo model only because the open front is good for videoing nothing more, most of my videos were done on a revo for that reason Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/0c9ff861-1eb7-39f4-e3b1-439814784e96%40earthlink.net.
RE: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern
Bill, Thank you. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: May 20, 2024 4:41 AM To: Subject: RE: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern Yea Mac it depends on the preference of the person doing the pattern I searched all through my legacy pics to find the different examples of each One looks like a cut diamond shape all strait and the other has the rounded pineapple look like the outside of one Looking through all the old legacy videos they seem to always call the strait sided ones done with the V bit diamond and the ones with the rope bit pineapple and sone times they say rope or pineapple pattern but they are different when you look close Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 6:07 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern Bill, Very nice of you to post that - much appreciated. For some of the examples of the "diamond" carve it appears to be fairly close to the pineapple - and on the others you can definitely tell the difference. Cheers Mac -Original Message- From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: May 20, 2024 3:56 AM To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern A few days ago I was discussing different legacy spindle patterns with someone and the subject of diamond and pineapple patterns came up And I was asked is there any difference well yes there is each one is milled with a different router bit and I don’t think this has ever been addressed here before, the pineapple pattern is milled with rope molding router bits while the diamond pattern is milled with strait V groove router bits Here is a sheet showing the difference. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000801daaa8b%24294959e0%247bdc0da0%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/a685dd8a-605e-7ae4-891d-24d67b0e392d%40earthlink.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001401daaa91%24839179e0%248ab46da0%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/70670eb6-fc48-c94e-9207-a60d994269c2%40earthlink.net.
Re: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern
Bill, Very nice of you to post that - much appreciated. For some of the examples of the "diamond" carve it appears to be fairly close to the pineapple - and on the others you can definitely tell the difference. Cheers Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: May 20, 2024 3:56 AM To: Subject: difference between a pineapple pattern and a dimond pattern A few days ago I was discussing different legacy spindle patterns with someone and the subject of diamond and pineapple patterns came up And I was asked is there any difference well yes there is each one is milled with a different router bit and I don’t think this has ever been addressed here before, the pineapple pattern is milled with rope molding router bits while the diamond pattern is milled with strait V groove router bits Here is a sheet showing the difference. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000801daaa8b%24294959e0%247bdc0da0%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/a685dd8a-605e-7ae4-891d-24d67b0e392d%40earthlink.net.
Re: Why did you buy an ornamental mill?
Hi Robert, Welcome - thanks for your post. Question re: " ... received one with stand and router as a gift rusting in his backyard." How did that happen? Did some "Ornamental Mill Gnomes/Trolls" put it there one night? Or did he buy the house and the Mill was left behind by previous owner?(I can't imagine a neighbor tossing one over the fence into his yard - but I guess anything is possible.)I hope you have given it an "indoor home" and are taking steps to clean it up and either use it or post its parts & pieces here for sale.BTW - How'd the router fare - being left "rusting in the back yard"? (Hoping that it was not left out in the elements!)Thanks again - looking forward to hearing & seeing more from you. Please post some pics - of the before & after, if you have them.Mac-Original Message- From: Sent: May 14, 2024 1:28 PM To: Subject: Re: Why did you buy an ornamental mill? an elementary school teacher received one with stand and router as a gift rusting in his backyard I worked at wood supply store and he asked if anyone want it for $300, i have never used it, but just for the metal parts it's worth more than 300 i think... Great group I appreciate all these emails, even though I only read ~10% of it it's better than any other groups I've ever joined On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 3:24 AM Timothy Krause mailto:artmarb...@comcast.net)> wrote: Hello All, I thought I would toss this question out to hear why you bought your ornamental mill. For me, I bought my first machine when I wanted to bring a different level of details to my current work. I was in a real niche market that I wanted to do some woodworking "tricks" that few people could figure out how they were made. How about you? -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/a04dae12-df26-18a0-9d06-f341bfaae7a8%40earthlink.net.
Re: Why did you buy an ornamental mill?
Mike, GREAT story - thanks for sharing. And - Thank you for your service to our nation! We appreciate all that you contribute to The Group. Thank you! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: May 13, 2024 12:14 PM To: Subject: Re: Why did you buy an ornamental mill? It was the mid 90's and I was still in the Air Force and was working on the next stage in my life, retirement! So that lasted a week and I was ready to get something started. Woodworking was always a hobby for me so I was pretty well equipped. After all, I had a Shop-smith! One day I was looking for a porch post that was too big for my lathe to handle and happened across a column and stair company downtown. While I was waiting my turn, the customer ordered some balusters and also brought in a chair spindle to see if they could duplicate it. The lady said no but I was standing behind the guy out of his sight shaking my head yes! She said just a moment and took the spindle around the corner, I followed her and told her I could do that for her company. She went back and told the guy yes and the relationship began before I ever said hello. I noticed the balusters he purchased were pretty plain and asked Betty, after the customer was gone, if I added a rope pattern to the stock part, if she thought it would sell. She said bring me one and we will see. I ordered the Wood-Chuck that day and the rest is history. I've watch the Legacy grow out of the Woodchuck as steel and then aluminum, then to CNC. But I still hold on to the Woodchuck because of all the things I can do with it, you just can't with the Legacy red line. My business was 80% based on the turning and roping and 20% on radius mill-work using the Woodchuck or the Williams and Hussy molder. 30 years was a great run and now, looking back, the greatest twist that ever came from the ornamental world was the friends I have made. Some friends have passed on and others are immortal but fellow sawdust chewers and customers alike have a huge place in my heart. I found a Customer-friend-student to pass on my twisted ways to. Doug said to me when we first started the possibility of him taking the business, that he loved to see a piece of lumber and visualize what was in there. I knew right then that he was going to be a great fit! I'm a lucky man to have had the opportunities I have had. I guess my secret is this, when asked "Could you do this?" My response is always "Absolutely! Then I figure out how and smile at what I got myself into. Never second guess, just get started. I love this group because I see a lot of the same attitude. I'm proud of you all! I am always here if anyone needs help. And will always be a LiLtwisted. Mike OK Mike Pung 405-650-0542 On 5/12/2024 5:24 AM, Timothy Krause wrote: Hello All, I thought I would toss this question out to hear why you bought your ornamental mill. For me, I bought my first machine when I wanted to bring a different level of details to my current work. I was in a real niche market that I wanted to do some woodworking "tricks" that few people could figure out how they were made. How about you? -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/ebcb7f0b-3479-4546-84b7-64e9610cc419%40iglide.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/8149bc92-be3e-efc2-4746-0aa226d57fbb%40earthlink.net.
RE: Roger's new work of Art
Roger, Like others have already expresed - you are a "Master of the Woods"! Your table is absolutely STUNNING! Will you fill us in with some info about it? Like: How long did this take to make? What are the various woods we see used in it? What are the dimensions? Lastly - what were the easiest; and the most challenging - parts of its creation? Thank you for sharing. Happy Easter! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Mar 30, 2024 1:26 AM To: Subject: RE: Roger's new work of Art Holy crap simply beautiful amazing work Roger Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2024 2:22 PM To: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: Roger's new work of Art Hello Everyone. Roger (Ccm Ccm) made these table, He told me that he could not get the pix. size down enough to share with the Group. I think this is a breath taking work of Art. and I feel everyone in the group. should see it. Good job Roger! C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1979365805.2024681.1711768922492%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01da8262%24d4fc6e90%247ef54bb0%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/e044ea66-85c8-c6f1-9655-670fdb4e4dcf%40earthlink.net.
Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
Very nice, Curtis. It looks like a piece of ivory. Thanks for sharing. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Feb 19, 2024 8:30 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates Hey Guys. Unless there are some more people talking on this posting, I think I will let it drop for the time being. Today I did another bone turning, that, Over all I am pretty happy with. Bye the way, I counted all my Stainless steel templates that I made over the last two weeks, I have 14 templates. I was having so much fun, I forgot how many that I made. ;-) This bone turning was made form last Thursday's lunch time break, template. I roped the center part, and then fluted the two outside beads, and leaving the end beads just round. As I said earlier, I am pretty happy with this one. "Yes" there are some small errors in the process but, Perhaps I am just to picky with my own work? "O"Well, I'm having fun. ;-) Another one down, appx. 30 more blanks left to do before I run out of bone disks. Have a good night everyone. C.A.G. On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 09:50:10 PM EST, Tim Ziegler wrote: Had the same problem today and yesterday. Tax time and boy its hectic. uffda. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:16 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Thank you Bill I got some time in the shop this afternoon. (between grocery shopping and laundry. I hate when LIFE get in the way of my wants. ) ;-) More life stuff now. talk to you more latter. here are the pix. C.A.G. On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 05:10:38 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: Yes very nice video on template following that one an option of the legacy quite often overlooked Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 3:45 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates Hello Everyone. I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5 spindles, The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden template to make all 5 spindles. The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the last photo you can see that all, are different but share the same basic shape. By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or fluting) the look can and will change. The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c&t=2s Bill made this video a few years back, showing the concept. Have a good day. C.A.G. On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com)> wrote: Hey Jeff, using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have to get use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles. Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept. C.A.G. On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com)> wrote: Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for taking the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for template work but I hope to. Jeff from Connecticut On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this posting I can find the reply. Depending on which machine I am using. both of my Legacy's use a ball bearing set ,1/2" as the follower. My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am using. As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy is for just basic shapes. details can be added with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits profile. so as long as my templates are true to the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic shapes. Note: having said that, I use both machine together on most of my projects. At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000, This is because of two reasons. First the 200 is made for smaller turnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note: not only size, but the 200 has a finer acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the 1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger turnings 1000 is the king of the shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is the master. (I can turn up to 8' on my lathe) BUT having sai
Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
Curtis, Would it not have been easier to use pieces of scrap 2x2 angle iron or a steel window lintel from a house being renovated? You may be able to fined scrap steel at a local "Habitat for Humanity Re-store". (One of my favorite places to check out once or twice a month.) I have never tried cutting stainless - but have tried to drill it - and that's a real bear! Much easier to drill angle iron. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Feb 12, 2024 2:32 PM To: 'parr...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates Hello Peter. Its been a while since we last talked. The stainless steel for most of these templates are form an old kitchen sink that was being thrown away. but stainless steel cabinets and or shelves are too always open for projects for me. when I can find them. Take care. (and keep in touch.) ;-) C.A.G. On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 01:06:33 PM EST, 'parr...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: Nice work CurtWhere did you source the stainless? PeterSent from the all new AOL app for iOS (https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661) On Monday, February 12, 2024, 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:Hello Everyone. I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my uses. I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my Legacy's as well the lathes I own. Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a general guide for basic shaping of my spindles. Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs... the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.) Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning. Have a good night everyone. C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/cc57e42c-1538-2a85-47d3-bb6f8b35e407%40earthlink.net.
Re: Bowl I turned
Tim, Very nice looking bowl. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Feb 7, 2024 6:48 AM To: LOM Group Subject: Bowl I turned Good morning, Not a LOM project, but could be. Here's a shallow bowl I turned on my Lathe. Used all Easy Wood Tools Carbide insert tools. Species of wood I'll need to look up. Bought the blank from Cook Woods. Softer light wood. Good safe wax finish. Kind regards, Tim J Ziegler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/cb6b71de-fd6b-10de-9057-b8254bd3d19b%40earthlink.net.
Re: 5 tools
Tim, Very cool/inventive, yet simple devices. Thanks for sharing. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jan 26, 2024 7:28 AM To: LOM Group Subject: 5 tools Here is a great video I thought I would share.I was pretty impressed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b78o-hAHqtM Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/2e67b26b-8340-6c50-6775-4604b2f34496%40earthlink.net.
RE: Watch "Make Wood Threads with this Amazing Router Jig!" on YouTube
Bill, I get a "Security Risk" warning whenever I click on the second (smaller) video's link. Won't take the chance - something shady must be going on (down)under the table - not you of course but, you are closer to Chinese hackers - so who knows! LoL! Thanks for sharing the video I did watch - again. Always interesting to watch your videos. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jan 24, 2024 6:51 PM To: Subject: RE: Watch "Make Wood Threads with this Amazing Router Jig!" on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_l3gTZLkOc&ab_channel=aussiman77181 not the best of videos it was a long time ago when I made these not even drive motors on my mill all hand cranking here is a smaller one made on my revo https://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/bolts/index.html Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 10:56 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Watch "Make Wood Threads with this Amazing Router Jig!" on YouTube Yes I totally agree, I was hoping you were going to show your Bolt and nut as I am not sure he saw it. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 12:05 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: Think I will stick to doing them with the legacy Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1d58a79c-dd39-5ce9-8ee3-be30af1b113f%40earthlink.net.
Yankee Joe - Request for pics of "LOM-a-Zilla"
Hey Joe, Great to hear from you. Since we seem to have picked up several more members to The Group - I doubt they have had the pleasure of seeing your "LOM-a-Zilla". If you don't mind - would you please post some pics of it? (Ya'll are in for a T-R-E-A-T if he does!) Thanks. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jan 23, 2024 2:15 PM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Split nut tap not important to this thread per se, but I was told years ago that a company in Westbury NY supplied the lead screws for the Legacy machines directly to the Legacy company... I went directly to them for the 16ft piece I needed for my Legacy length modification and had a somewhat lengthy conversation with the company's management... moot point now but relevant if anyone in the group needs a length of lead screw for their own modifications... strange thing about it was the fact that the company was about 1/8 mile from where I was living at the time... the mod gods were with me for that very much needed part!... LOL!... Joe B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/fc0d1f5a-9c91-35ad-03d8-6bda8f65d505%40earthlink.net.
RE: Oval jig testing
But Tim, Bill (in Australia) has that "Red Back Spider". In Minnie-Soda ya'll have the "Red-neck Spider". Haven't heard much about it biting - so much as I have heard about it drinking a lot of beer! LoL! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jan 17, 2024 12:46 AM To: Subject: RE: Oval jig testing Lol when your born into it its not that bad Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 2:45 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Oval jig testing ugg I'll stay in MINNESOTA Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 2:22 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: https://www.google.com.au/search?q=redback+spider&sca_esv=598892895&sxsrf=ACQVn09VnXEGV_HyeTN6lXAw7Kohu0BF3g%3A1705436199921&ei=J-SmZcPkN7Po1e8PuqGj4Ak&gs_ssp=eJzj4tTP1TcwNi1LMzVg9OIrSk1JSkzOViguyExJLQIAa6IIhA&oq=redbac+spider&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp these are the spiders we mostly get in the shop Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 2:23 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) Subject: Re: Oval jig testing The Recluse is nothing to sneeze at either. I've heard horror storys about them. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 8:19 AM cdkr...@gmail.com (mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com) mailto:cdkra...@gmail.com)> wrote: What I'm curious about by mentioning different number of teeth on planetary and sun gears is the modularity of the rotations. If they have the same number, after one rotation the second rotation will travel the same path. If the number of teeth are different by as little as one, methinks the path of the second rotation will be different than the first, the third different than the second etc. until the number of rotations is a multiple of the two gear tooth numbers. Think Spirograph. ??? Yes, it's nice to work in a shop where the greatest threat is my own stupidity followed by recluse spiders. DanK On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 6:51:22 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote: Yeah pretty scary having to worry about that. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:26 PM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: And we thought the danger in our shops were the machines lol Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 2:37 PM To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com) Subject: Re: Oval jig testing Hey Guys. No poisonous snakes or bugs any where around here Bill. ;-) But on the flip side, the Cold can kill you as fast as any snake can. the quote stating that , Discretion is the better part of valor is very true. I too want this jig done and ready to show everyone. But I have to wait, perhaps next weekend? I can only Hope and Pray. ;-) C.A.G. On Monday, January 1I can't take the suspense. lol Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 6:17 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Most likely next weekend??? We will see. C.A.G. On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 07:14:45 PM EST, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au)> wrot Very nice curt a video showing it working will show all exactly what your explaining Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 7:16 AM To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> Subject: Re: Oval jig testing Woops. part of this message did not show up... Here is the hole message. (second try!) Hello Everyone. It's -5 outside today. (Thanks Tim, for sending Bill some cold air, it hit my area in its way to Auz. ) ;-p Since my shop is un-heated, (I use a propane heater to heat the shop when I'm working, But today its just to cold to go out there and try to heat the shop.) This is a reply that I gave to a private e-mail Explaining what I was doing/ how this jig works. I think everyone will enjoy this info. The Planetary gear system is the concept that I am using to make this jig work. The "Sun" Gear is pinned to the ta
Web addresss question re: YouTube video about "Band saw blades"
Can't hep but wonder: What is the difference between the two domains we see in the two hyperlinks? https://youtu.be/ vs https://www.youtube.com/ I know the first is a TLD out of Belgium and the second (.com) is probably a US based site. Can anyone explain how they both take you to the same place? I often see Youtube videos going to the Belgium site - possibly half of them. -Original Message- From: Sent: Jan 12, 2024 11:41 AM To: Subject: Re: band saw blades https://youtu.be/MNQI-SGIdTI is the simple link, give it a try On 1/12/2024 9:08 AM, Ed Trevillian wrote: Looks like the video was taken down...Ed Trevillian On Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 8:38 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNQI-SGIdTI&ab_channel=BandsawLife found this today and I found it extremely interesting and I’m thinking any of you with bandsaws will too. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001501da44f7%24fc150da0%24f43f28e0%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAL8Pmr3obTp22f3F4Ca2SMC9y5rK3uMYp5gDd-b6tbrDqWLWyw%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/202bf912-7588-445a-be7d-393102045ca8%40iglide.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/6a21c1c8-6d5e-a08d-5144-243974f09e1a%40earthlink.net.
Re: clock
Joe, Thanks. Great to hear from you. You are spot-on re: Legacy and why they went the CNC route. We wish you and your business a Prosperous year - to the point that you can retire in a year - and move to Jamaica (NOT Jamaica, NY - but the country) - where the weather is warm and their "beverages" are cold! 😄 Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jan 10, 2024 9:36 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: clock and thus, the reason why Legacy dropped the manual machines... let's remember Legacy's ideal market was/is to people who are doing commercial, billable woodworking... the hobbyist/amateur woodworking market was not going to get them where they wanted to go... although I would comment that the one thing you never see mentioned in any CNC demo video is how much time it takes to make the program... certainly quicker if you have computer skills(not me!... LOL!)... but the older machines do have a use for certain operations, even at a commercial level(me, for example) when doing low quantity furniture parts... and I might think that for a lot in this group, the challenges of using the manual machine is what it's all about... if it was possible to set up the work, hit a button, walk away and have lunch, come back later and the job was done, the work would not be as rewarding as when overcoming the challenges of using a manual machine... with all of that being said, I am somewhat glad I will be leaving the woodworking business in a few years(hopefully!) and won't have to butt heads with my (button pushing)competitors!... hope all enjoyed the holidays!... your lurking group member, Joe Biunno On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 1:05:32 AM UTC-5 bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote: Yea I thought so too its filed away in my wow folder lol Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 4:19 PM To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: clock I have to admit, that is one of the Best Legacy videos that I've seen in Very long time. Thank you Bill. Great find. C.A.G. On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 10:16:16 PM EST, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r3F4RWDQ1Q&ab_channel=LegacyCNC when I see how long the clock takes on the manual mill videos it sure makes me envious of the cnc Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000401da42aa%243050dbd0%2490f29370%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1284935019.5997100.1704863952643%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/d420ffcd-50be-4e52-b736-ffeaf69d7c0en%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/65031563-568e-f07d-edff-74654d2c4dfd%40earthlink.net.
Re: Centering chuck?
Tim Ziegler, At one point there was discussion here regarding that. You were "tagged" as being referred to as either Tim Z or Tim 2 (take your pick) - since we all kind of agree Tim Krause in Oregon is Tim 1 or Tim K (take your pick). Have a Blessed weekend, all ya'll - and stay warm. (Bill "D-U" excepted of course - as it's summer Down-Under). Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jan 5, 2024 10:41 PM To: Subject: Re: Centering chuck? Please be more specific to the Tim you're talking too. I was confused till I scrolled down and saw it was Tim Woodard. I know we have at least 4 Tim's now so just for clarification reasons I guess. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 10:41 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Hello Tim The Legacy (most modals) has a 1x8 thread on the headstock. The REVO, Modal 200 and some of the Wood Chuck machine did not have the same headstock. But the 900, 1000ex, 1500 and 1800. all had the 1x8 threaded headstock. I hope this helps? C.A.G. On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 10:56:04 AM EST, Tim Woodard mailto:twoodard...@gmail.com)> wrote: I want to add a centering chuck on my LOM. what size arbor. center hole do I need, and what is everyone using. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/909cc0bc-d22d-4202-9e33-aa0c928d80ddn%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/404580598.4979419.1704472895787%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGxF31UUwacGV3tM46NFKXQn4%3DtCA7nNFfbRWr_Bg9D%2Bg%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/0670e549-572a-f8c7-823d-29ebe8786cf7%40earthlink.net.
Re: Legacy for sale in Valparaiso, IN
Appears to be back up on FB. I don't do FB - but I was able to see the Mill and it opens with a video "tour running. Looks to be a great machine/buy for someone. Happy New Year to all of ya'll. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Dec 29, 2023 7:00 AM To: Subject: Re: Legacy for sale in Valparaiso, IN Expired for me as well, hopefully someone from the group picked it up or maybe we will have a new member soon. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone On Dec 29, 2023, at 6:50 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com wrote: John, that listing shows as "expired" on reaching it. ??? I shouldn't be interested, so no worries. DanK On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 12:24:32 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote: Looks like a GREAT Mill ! Ball bearing headstock, motor drive, router and turn/rotary table. Self standing with adjustable bed, + the mobility kit . And it looks like there are some extra goodies in the box. (perhaps horizontal vice or steady rest...?) This machine can do a lot! C.A.G. On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 11:43:25 PM EST, John Gonzo wrote: This one is In Batesville IN. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/720684306615888/?ref=browse_tab&referral_code=marketplace_general&referral_story_type=general&tracking=%7B%22qid%22%3A%22-2817927832422882671%22%2C%22mf_story_key%22%3A%227216088508255890697%22%2C%22commerce_rank_obj%22%3A%22%7B%5C%22target_id%5C%22%3A7216088508255890697%2C%5C%22target_type%5C%22%3A6%2C%5C%22primary_position%5C%22%3A133%2C%5C%22ranking_signature%5C%22%3A8500818345122445851%2C%5C%22commerce_channel%5C%22%3A501%2C%5C%22value%5C%22%3A4.1313255972815e-5%2C%5C%22upsell_type%5C%22%3A129%2C%5C%22candidate_retrieval_source_map%5C%22%3A%7B%5C%226665417240223478%5C%22%3A3016%7D%2C%5C%22grouping_info%5C%22%3Anull%7D%22%2C%22lightning_feed_qid%22%3A%22-2818171648996029038%22%2C%22lightning_feed_ranking_signature%22%3A%228500818345122445851%22%2C%22ftmd_400706%22%3A%2212l%22%7D On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 2:12:06 PM UTC-8 Tim Ziegler wrote: lol for sure. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 11:01 AM cdkr...@gmail.com wrote: Now if it was an Evolution DanK On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 12:00:38 PM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote: Good idea, Curt! What a Z axis that would be. Would make Tim the Toolman Taylor proud! I am not tempted for several reasons. It's out of my budget range, I don't have the space in shop or van, and it's almost 5 hours away. DanK On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 9:28:35 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote: Good morning everyone. Tim, If you put this Legacy on its end, the foot print will take less room in your shop. ;-p C.A.G. On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 07:39:09 AM EST, Jeff Richmond wrote: Nice machine. Too far for me. Tim, no more room in the shop? Time for a mezzanine, lol. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone On Dec 13, 2023, at 6:55 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote: Beautiful Machine, but even I would not have the space for that one. Yes reasonable price for what your getting. Surprisingly no Z access on that big of machine. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 10:23 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1098212628229574/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A23d64dae-4ecf-44a7-b657-dfd7 Legacy Woodworking Machinery$1,500 Listed 14 weeks ago in Valparaiso, IN (https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/103719419666344/)This is NOT Cheap, but I think its a fair price, there is a lot there to like. One of the longest machine sold by Legacy.Motor drive, ball-bearing headstock, self standing/legs and adjustable bed. <1702441369932blob.jpg> C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.to view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/960945311.410856.1702441383581%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com.to view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLHjHWssWQ15NcerME2GFX63zP4wkUqAPar4Ya_bY-ynvQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group
RE: Test post delete at will
Bill, So sorry to hear this. You still have a couple days to shake that bug off and get better - in time for St Nick to pay you a visit - assuming he ventures that far south into the hot & humid clime; and that his reindeer are able to fly upside down again this time around! I heard that last year there were so many stops to make down there that they barely made it out of there without running out of energy to make it back home to the North Pole! LoL! In any case, I wish you - and all of our fellow LOM Group members a Very Merry Christmas and a Healthy, Prosperous, and Happy New Year! Cheers to all! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Dec 22, 2023 6:29 PM To: Subject: RE: Test post delete at will Yea just quiet and just my luck I been really busy doing last minuet Christmas stuff and now I have come down sick with a nasty bug that is going around, I think for the second time in my life I’m going to be ill on Christmas day that is going to suck Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 2:28 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Test post delete at will Is this group really quiet or am I still having a problem? DanK On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 5:11:13 PM UTC-5 Jeff Richmond wrote: Got it. Jeff from Connecticut On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:47 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com (mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com) mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com)> wrote: Merry Christmas everyone. This is a test post after a complete restart of everything because the site wouldn't take a post from me. Tim Z was able to post the content on my behalf after I sent it to him. Thank you, Tim. DanK -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/dff20aa0-feee-b785-4032-fc12b38de962%40earthlink.net.
Re: Look what I found on the Russian web site. ;-)
Curtis, WOW!! That is a REALLY COOL find! Thank you for sharing it. I sure wish that they had put it out here in the USA way back when! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Dec 10, 2023 12:40 AM To: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: Look what I found on the Russian web site. ;-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViUos4Tgs3w Form Years gone by. I wish that I had a chance to see this machine first hand. Today I think, Just maybe I was wrong about the EVO. Sadly it was never meant to be. Let's hear what you all think? C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/bbe9ac9f-dbde-d0b4-87f6-ae9101bed990%40earthlink.net.
Re: December's bones / Santa workshop.
Curtis, I like the various colors you have in the "looking glass" photo - gives it a nostalgic (vintage) look. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Dec 7, 2023 12:10 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: December's bones / Santa workshop. HI guys. Bill Back bone of the group? That is Funny! ;-) Dan. I got/understand your tip, and do thank you for the suggestions. Mac. I tend to agree with you. I like beefier my self. Bill and Tim. dye the bones??? I'm not sure that I want to do that? although I did do something like that a while back, skin and bone with buffalos horn to blend it all together. Here are a few pic. of them. The first is skin and bone, the other is mostly leather with some bone and horn in it. the third is all leather. and the fourth is bone with leather . I have a few others, but I think I should stop there. ;-) Have a good night everyone. talk to you all more tomorrow. C.A.G. On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 07:38:38 PM EST, Tim Ziegler wrote: That would be cool. Try some dye? On Wed, Dec 6, 2023, 5:02 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: Curt have you ever considered colouring the bone different colours I know it might not be for everyone and I don’t know how deep dye would penetrate the bone but some people might like really bright colours especially around Christmas time just a thought I’m not sure if a asked you this before or not Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 2:14 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)Subject: Re: December's bones / Santa workshop. Good morning everyone. Thank you Tim. Back to work I go today. I hope this next weekend, I will be able to do a number of bone blank glue up's . I have a LOT of disks cut, but sadly I have all but depleted my glued up blanks for turning. The next step that I need to do is color matching process of the bones. I need to lay the disks out and sort all of the disks, making piles of bone disks that are all the same color. Somethings this process is not easy, do to the slightly different colors of white. Having soaked all the bone in Hydrogen peroxide makes everything more uniformed, but there can be still some color in the disks. I find my matching the disks keeps everything uniformed, and even if there is some color, if everything looks the same, it all fits nicely together . Perhaps this process is not 100% nessasary to do, Sometimes a random colored bone handle also looks good. But for me, uniformity of color is one of my pet peeves. We will see what happens on the next batch of blanks. ;-) Then back to the design quest, trying to find new ideas and different looks, for the same things. ;-) In this photo's , the roped has some brown and a tint of red in it. in the wave there is a tint of brown and some gray. None of this really matters at a distance, but up close it can be seen. That's it for now. have a great day. C.A.G. On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 07:13:53 AM EST, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> wrote: For sure Curt, I just admire that you keep creating and making new designs. That just goes to show a creative mind you have, and an inspiration for us as well. Hoping after the Christmas rush I get more time to play as well. Keep the gears turning Curt. I appreciate all you contribute to our group. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 10:06 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Thanks Tim Sometimes its hard to figure what will look best for shape and design. Some designs come work fine, but just don't look right. I guess it true, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I will keep working at it, trying to fully understand and learn what we call the learning curve. ;-) Have a good night. C.A.G. On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 10:45:39 PM EST, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> wrote: Very nice Curt. I really like the spirals the best. Both are very good. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 7:15 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: I too voted for you Bill. Had a few more min. today. So this is the last bone turning for the weekend. (I had a long weekend. burning up my annual leave.)(Sun, Mon & today/Tuesday.) The rope is a 10 start at a 1/8" spacing on a 6" pitch. with the wave everything is the same as the rope. but indexed 10 times with a 1/8 off-set. C.A.G. On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 05:06:19 PM EST, M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net)> wrote: Bill, I
Re: December's bones / Santa workshop.
My favorite is the one in the near row - 3rd from the right. Second favorite is back row - 2nd from left. Both have "beefier" look to them Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Dec 6, 2023 10:16 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: December's bones / Santa workshop. Good morning everyone. Thank you Tim. Back to work I go today. I hope this next weekend, I will be able to do a number of bone blank glue up's . I have a LOT of disks cut, but sadly I have all but depleted my glued up blanks for turning. The next step that I need to do is color matching process of the bones. I need to lay the disks out and sort all of the disks, making piles of bone disks that are all the same color. Somethings this process is not easy, do to the slightly different colors of white. Having soaked all the bone in Hydrogen peroxide makes everything more uniformed, but there can be still some color in the disks. I find my matching the disks keeps everything uniformed, and even if there is some color, if everything looks the same, it all fits nicely together . Perhaps this process is not 100% nessasary to do, Sometimes a random colored bone handle also looks good. But for me, uniformity of color is one of my pet peeves. We will see what happens on the next batch of blanks. ;-) Then back to the design quest, trying to find new ideas and different looks, for the same things. ;-) In this photo's , the roped has some brown and a tint of red in it. in the wave there is a tint of brown and some gray. None of this really matters at a distance, but up close it can be seen. That's it for now. have a great day. C.A.G. On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 07:13:53 AM EST, Tim Ziegler wrote: For sure Curt, I just admire that you keep creating and making new designs. That just goes to show a creative mind you have, and an inspiration for us as well. Hoping after the Christmas rush I get more time to play as well. Keep the gears turning Curt. I appreciate all you contribute to our group. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 10:06 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Thanks Tim Sometimes its hard to figure what will look best for shape and design. Some designs come work fine, but just don't look right. I guess it true, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I will keep working at it, trying to fully understand and learn what we call the learning curve. ;-) Have a good night. C.A.G. On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 10:45:39 PM EST, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> wrote: Very nice Curt. I really like the spirals the best. Both are very good.Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 7:15 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: I too voted for you Bill. Had a few more min. today. So this is the last bone turning for the weekend. (I had a long weekend. burning up my annual leave.)(Sun, Mon & today/Tuesday.) The rope is a 10 start at a 1/8" spacing on a 6" pitch. with the wave everything is the same as the rope. but indexed 10 times with a 1/8 off-set. C.A.G. On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 05:06:19 PM EST, M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net)> wrote: Bill, I voted - yours being my #1 and #2. Best of luck to ya. I saw where there were about 4 people that entered that live w/in 10 miles of our son in NC. Mac -Original Message-From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)>Sent: Dec 5, 2023 9:35 AMTo: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)>Subject: RE: December's bones / Santa workshop. Thank you Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 11:04 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)Subject: Re: December's bones / Santa workshop. Consider it done my Friend. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 10:04 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: No problem thanks curt funny thing I was chasing up oval turning chucks yesterday and it lead me to their sight which I joined I might go look and see. Oh also you and anyone in the group if you liked my Christmas arches please go here https://www.aswoodturns.com/challenges/2023-ornament-challenge/ Scroll down to the link and vote for me numbers 152 and 151 who knows I might get lucky this year it would be a first lol Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 1:13 PMTo: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)>Sub
Re: December's bones / Santa workshop.
Curtis, I agree - I'd be sorting them by their various levels of white as well. I'd want them either all the same (as close as possible) or I'd entertain alternating ones that are significantly different - one disk light next to a darker one - next to another light one, etc. Thanks for sharing. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Dec 6, 2023 10:16 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: December's bones / Santa workshop. Good morning everyone. Thank you Tim. Back to work I go today. I hope this next weekend, I will be able to do a number of bone blank glue up's . I have a LOT of disks cut, but sadly I have all but depleted my glued up blanks for turning. The next step that I need to do is color matching process of the bones. I need to lay the disks out and sort all of the disks, making piles of bone disks that are all the same color. Somethings this process is not easy, do to the slightly different colors of white. Having soaked all the bone in Hydrogen peroxide makes everything more uniformed, but there can be still some color in the disks. I find my matching the disks keeps everything uniformed, and even if there is some color, if everything looks the same, it all fits nicely together . Perhaps this process is not 100% nessasary to do, Sometimes a random colored bone handle also looks good. But for me, uniformity of color is one of my pet peeves. We will see what happens on the next batch of blanks. ;-) Then back to the design quest, trying to find new ideas and different looks, for the same things. ;-) In this photo's , the roped has some brown and a tint of red in it. in the wave there is a tint of brown and some gray. None of this really matters at a distance, but up close it can be seen. That's it for now. have a great day. C.A.G. On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 07:13:53 AM EST, Tim Ziegler wrote: For sure Curt, I just admire that you keep creating and making new designs. That just goes to show a creative mind you have, and an inspiration for us as well. Hoping after the Christmas rush I get more time to play as well. Keep the gears turning Curt. I appreciate all you contribute to our group. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 10:06 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Thanks Tim Sometimes its hard to figure what will look best for shape and design. Some designs come work fine, but just don't look right. I guess it true, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I will keep working at it, trying to fully understand and learn what we call the learning curve. ;-) Have a good night. C.A.G. On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 10:45:39 PM EST, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> wrote: Very nice Curt. I really like the spirals the best. Both are very good.Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 7:15 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: I too voted for you Bill. Had a few more min. today. So this is the last bone turning for the weekend. (I had a long weekend. burning up my annual leave.)(Sun, Mon & today/Tuesday.) The rope is a 10 start at a 1/8" spacing on a 6" pitch. with the wave everything is the same as the rope. but indexed 10 times with a 1/8 off-set. C.A.G. On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 05:06:19 PM EST, M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net)> wrote: Bill, I voted - yours being my #1 and #2. Best of luck to ya. I saw where there were about 4 people that entered that live w/in 10 miles of our son in NC. Mac -Original Message-From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)>Sent: Dec 5, 2023 9:35 AMTo: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)>Subject: RE: December's bones / Santa workshop. Thank you Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 11:04 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)Subject: Re: December's bones / Santa workshop. Consider it done my Friend. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 10:04 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: No problem thanks curt funny thing I was chasing up oval turning chucks yesterday and it lead me to their sight which I joined I might go look and see. Oh also you and anyone in the group if you liked my Christmas arches pl
RE: December's bones / Santa workshop.
Bill, I voted - yours being my #1 and #2. Best of luck to ya. I saw where there were about 4 people that entered that live w/in 10 miles of our son in NC. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Dec 5, 2023 9:35 AM To: Subject: RE: December's bones / Santa workshop. Thank you Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 11:04 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: December's bones / Santa workshop. Consider it done my Friend. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 10:04 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: No problem thanks curt funny thing I was chasing up oval turning chucks yesterday and it lead me to their sight which I joined I might go look and see. Oh also you and anyone in the group if you liked my Christmas arches please go here https://www.aswoodturns.com/challenges/2023-ornament-challenge/ Scroll down to the link and vote for me numbers 152 and 151 who knows I might get lucky this year it would be a first lol Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 1:13 PM To: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: December's bones / Santa workshop. Hello Everyone. I am getting ready for Christmas, Santa's workshop is going into over drive. ;-) Here are a few new handles that I just finished turning. Any question or comments are, as always I am open to hear what you all think? Have a good night. C.A.G. P.S. Bill. I posted a few of your videos to the AAW (American Association of Woodturners. Hopefully you will find some more people Subscribing to your your tube channel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/ba2f5a52-e6db-0dac-1aab-a93eaa2b3ae7%40earthlink.net.
RE: laser pointer
I find any of the watch/button battery-powered devices to be the very ones I avoid! For the very reason you mentioned - as well as those batteries are not always readily available. I have experienced the watch/button battery powered Tilt Box/Angle Boxes, various DRO devices on planers, drill presses, etc. - and have yet been super pleased with them. My Favorites will be ones w/a built-in USB cable rechargeable battery. Second choice is double or triple A battery. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Nov 27, 2023 6:14 PM To: Subject: RE: laser pointer I have had a bit of a look and they all look to be powered by button battery’s so far which go flat too quick Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2023 8:52 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: laser pointer I'm sure pretty much any online Gun shop should have that information? Kind Regards, Tim On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 3:15 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: That’s a good idea if I can find one that is powered by a AAA battery it might just work Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of Bob Mark Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2023 7:35 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) Subject: Re: laser pointer Bill How about a laser bore sight for a firearm. I have been thinking about mounting one. Some go down the barrel could be easy to fabricate. Sent from Bob's iPhone On Nov 26, 2023, at 9:09 PM, Rick Hutley mailto:rghut...@gmail.com)> wrote: Not sure if this one would suit your needs Bill: OLIGHT O'Pen ProOn Amazon. Expensive for a laser pen ($55 US) but it is rechargeable and does have an on/off switch Rick On Nov 26, 2023, at 21:56, bulke...@mmnet.com.au (mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au) wrote: Thanks curt but nothing there suitable Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2023 3:51 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) Subject: Re: laser pointer Bill Amazon has a number of different pen stile laser pointers. https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Demonstrator-Construction-Demonstration-Instruction/dp/B0B94DVX3D/ref=sr_1_42?keywords=pen+laser+pointer&qid=1701060470&sr=8-42 Here is one that look like will fit the bill. (excuse the pun.) ;-) C.A.G. On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 11:39:32 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au (mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au) mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: I need some help guys I’m looking for a laser pointer to put on one of my tools it needs to be about the dia Of a pen, runs on one AAA battery that you put inside it and you push a button once to turn it on then push once again to turn it off Do you think I can find one that meets this criteria all the ones here you have to hold the button to keep it working which is no good When you need 2 hands to work the machine or it runs on button batteries or it has internal recharging or it is so powerful it would burn A hole in the moon and is the size of a fly spray can. Lol So please if anyone can help me find one please show me where I can buy it from Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/d964e314-8801-059d-9ac1-0ba89b0bbbc2%40earthlink.net.
Shopsmith PowerPro Headstock - good info
For any Group member that owns a Shopsmith (and a lot of us do) - this is Great info about their latest headstock upgrade. In a post earlier last night, I mentioned the "new" Touchscreen Control Panel they came out with a few months ago. Here's a link to all the info you may want to be aware of: SS PowerPro Touchscreen Headstock (https://www.shopsmith.com/powerprogen2/) Jeff - for sure you ought to look it over - as it will most likely now meet your needs. Happy Thanksgiving! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Nov 22, 2023 11:11 PM To: Subject: Re: Bone turning Nov Good stuffKind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 9:19 PM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net)> wrote: Jeff, For "Speed Range" on your Shopsmith - check out the relatively "new" PowerPro Headstock and perhaps even the Touch Screen control pad they came out with earlier this year. Both versions are a significant improvement over the previous belt-driven headstocks. Additionally they both will run on 120v or 220v - with you only needing to swap out the plug; the electronics make the adjustment internally. And when you go the 220v route - you supposedly get a full 2HP! Sooo - you will get both speed and power improvements. Let us know which route you go - the original PowerPro Conversion or the most recent TouchScreen PowerPro. Mac -Original Message- From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Nov 22, 2023 6:09 PM To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: Re: Bone turning Nov Same request if you were willing. I do have a couple shopsmiths but have been looking for a used super shop for the extra capability. ( speed range and strength ) Cutting nested bowls is also of an interest as those jigs can get quite pricey. ( woodcut, Oneway, etc) It would be neat to see what you come up with. Jeff from ConnecticutOn Nov 22, 2023, at 4:43 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au (mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au) wrote:That sounds extraordinarily interesting Dan please post me an email or 2 from time to time as you do it I would like to see what you come up with bulke...@mmnet.com.au (mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au) Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com (mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com) Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 2:03 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: Re: Bone turning Nov You may not be hearing from me for a bit because I'm working on building some long sought after lathe jigs. In another kind of serendipity, I have dreamed up a design unique to Supershops for a jig that will turn accurate spheres and hollows and cut nested bowls from a blank. It's a metal working challenge outside the scope of this forum. Later DanK On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 9:57:53 AM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com (mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com) wrote: Good to hear about your healing, Bill. I think the bone turnings Curt has done look fine. I tend to prefer smaller checkering diamonds on things, but it's purely a preference thing. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and most beholders appreciate the thought and touch of a master more than the "correctness" of design, which tends to be a ghostly holy grail. Happy Thanksgiving to all. I'm grateful to have become acquainted with at least some of this group. DanK On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 10:38:56 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote: Glad to hear your feeling better Bill. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 12:30 AM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: Me too guys I don’t think I will be back in the shop till after Christmas the way I’m going so So busy right now catching up my leg is finally healing properly now so I’m up and around again Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 2:07 PM To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com) Subject: Re: Bone turning Nov Hey Curt, They still look pretty cool though. I agree the diamond pattern is slightly large for the handle but still looks great. Keep the inspiration going Curt. I did put my rotary table on my Revo last night so my heart is in the right place. We are just busy with pre-christmas orders. so my play time is very limited. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:44 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Hello Everyone. Started
Re: Bone turning Nov
Jeff, For "Speed Range" on your Shopsmith - check out the relatively "new" PowerPro Headstock and perhaps even the Touch Screen control pad they came out with earlier this year. Both versions are a significant improvement over the previous belt-driven headstocks. Additionally they both will run on 120v or 220v - with you only needing to swap out the plug; the electronics make the adjustment internally. And when you go the 220v route - you supposedly get a full 2HP! Sooo - you will get both speed and power improvements. Let us know which route you go - the original PowerPro Conversion or the most recent TouchScreen PowerPro. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Nov 22, 2023 6:09 PM To: Subject: Re: Bone turning Nov Same request if you were willing. I do have a couple shopsmiths but have been looking for a used super shop for the extra capability. ( speed range and strength ) Cutting nested bowls is also of an interest as those jigs can get quite pricey. ( woodcut, Oneway, etc) It would be neat to see what you come up with. Jeff from ConnecticutOn Nov 22, 2023, at 4:43 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:That sounds extraordinarily interesting Dan please post me an email or 2 from time to time as you do it I would like to see what you come up with bulke...@mmnet.com.au (mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au) Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 2:03 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Bone turning Nov You may not be hearing from me for a bit because I'm working on building some long sought after lathe jigs. In another kind of serendipity, I have dreamed up a design unique to Supershops for a jig that will turn accurate spheres and hollows and cut nested bowls from a blank. It's a metal working challenge outside the scope of this forum. Later DanK On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 9:57:53 AM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com (mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com) wrote: Good to hear about your healing, Bill. I think the bone turnings Curt has done look fine. I tend to prefer smaller checkering diamonds on things, but it's purely a preference thing. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and most beholders appreciate the thought and touch of a master more than the "correctness" of design, which tends to be a ghostly holy grail. Happy Thanksgiving to all. I'm grateful to have become acquainted with at least some of this group. DanK On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 10:38:56 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote: Glad to hear your feeling better Bill. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 12:30 AM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: Me too guys I don’t think I will be back in the shop till after Christmas the way I’m going so So busy right now catching up my leg is finally healing properly now so I’m up and around again Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 2:07 PM To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com) Subject: Re: Bone turning Nov Hey Curt, They still look pretty cool though. I agree the diamond pattern is slightly large for the handle but still looks great. Keep the inspiration going Curt. I did put my rotary table on my Revo last night so my heart is in the right place. We are just busy with pre-christmas orders. so my play time is very limited. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:44 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Hello Everyone. Started working with bone again today. I made 3 handles. I have been playing around with new designs/shapes and patterns, to see what looks good, and find new possibility's that will work with what I am doing. The checkered handle is one of my favorite templates, but up until now checkering I've not done, The size of the checkering to the spindle, looks to big, as least It is not what I was hoping for, Perhaps, I should have gone smaller? The other two are nice, but perhaps a little on the thin side. Its all part of the learning curve here. If anyone has any idea, on designs and or detail elements, Please let me know. Have a good day everyone. C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/c398a96e-3a50-5b30-4b55-2f968a61b62c%40earthlink.net.
Re: GREAT info re: making router bits
Thank you - you too. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Nov 18, 2023 1:27 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: GREAT info re: making router bits Thank you Mac. That is something to look into. Have a good night. C.A.G. On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 01:15:52 AM EST, M.W.Foscue wrote: Hi Curtis, I'm not looking for any special profile. I got an email from Woodline and happened to see that note regarding them making bits for customers. I thought I'd share that info with The Group in case a member (even lurker) was looking for a company to make a special profile bit. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Nov 18, 2023 12:45 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: GREAT info re: making router bits Hey there everyone! Mac I have not used Woodline router bits before. I wish you luck on buying these. Bye the way. what special router profile are you looking for? C.A.G. On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 02:15:44 PM EST, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) wrote: I have also had custom bits made from Magnate. They have performed rather well. They have become my go-to for bits. Mike OK On 11/17/2023 12:07 PM, M.W.Foscue wrote: I saw the attached on an email from Woodline. I have not used their router bits - but I remember they used to participate in "The Woodworking Shows" every year before the Wuhan Virus struck. They seem to be saying they can/will make whatever router profile you want - just provide them with the profile. If anyone has already used them for this service, or later do, please let us know how it went - both in terms of cost and quality of the router bit. Thanks. Mac Now go do something Awesome - for a friend, co-worker, or a stranger! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/621b3b27-b5b7-1287-60ba-c33f333e059e%40earthlink.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/208622114.2836796.1700288836299%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/dbbed415-dea2-14fb-48fa-322c59010bd3%40earthlink.net.
Re: GREAT info re: making router bits
Hi Curtis, I'm not looking for any special profile. I got an email from Woodline and happened to see that note regarding them making bits for customers. I thought I'd share that info with The Group in case a member (even lurker) was looking for a company to make a special profile bit. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Nov 18, 2023 12:45 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: GREAT info re: making router bits Hey there everyone! Mac I have not used Woodline router bits before. I wish you luck on buying these. Bye the way. what special router profile are you looking for? C.A.G. On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 02:15:44 PM EST, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) wrote: I have also had custom bits made from Magnate. They have performed rather well. They have become my go-to for bits. Mike OK On 11/17/2023 12:07 PM, M.W.Foscue wrote: I saw the attached on an email from Woodline. I have not used their router bits - but I remember they used to participate in "The Woodworking Shows" every year before the Wuhan Virus struck. They seem to be saying they can/will make whatever router profile you want - just provide them with the profile. If anyone has already used them for this service, or later do, please let us know how it went - both in terms of cost and quality of the router bit. Thanks. Mac Now go do something Awesome - for a friend, co-worker, or a stranger! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/621b3b27-b5b7-1287-60ba-c33f333e059e%40earthlink.net.
Re: Quicky Christmas present
Curtis, Very nice - Thanks for sharing. Is the lens glass or acrylic (plastic)? I'm sure there are some "bone" handles in the making. LoL! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Nov 10, 2023 8:07 PM To: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: Quicky Christmas present Hello Everyone. I have the day off form work, So I have started making Christmas presents again. For those older (long term) members, you should remember that a few years back I made 64 magnifying glasses. (I don't plan to make that many this year, but I do plan to make a few, Here is the first one of the season.) These glasses are cheap to buy, under $3.00 at the local hardware store. they have plastic handles. I remove to handle and then use the metal shank (?)(for no better words? The metal part that hold the glass to the handle.) I put it in a wood block and then used that part in my tail rest to center the part/handle, then I turn it on the my lathe and then finish it off on my Legacy. "Well" here is what I made today. any question or comments are, as always Welcome. C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/d38d57e6-dccb-6406-9a35-62d1c2394523%40earthlink.net.
Re: spindle turning
Bill, I agree - doable on the manual Mill, other than the carving. Surprised he didn't have an auto tool change on that Mill. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Nov 2, 2023 9:36 PM To: Subject: spindle turning Here is one I think we could do on our manual mills accept for the carving on the top https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nWXsks2TnE&ab_channel=LegacyCNC what do you all think Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/ebeab670-bf77-e380-4ee6-f017dd5b7ba3%40earthlink.net.
RE: croc
Too funny! Thanks for sharing that one. LoL!! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Nov 6, 2023 3:25 AM To: Subject: RE: croc Well funny you should ask the answer is yes I have tasted sh— many years ago riding my motor bike herding cattle I came off the bike Face first into a nice big very fresh cow cookie now after you stop laughing I do know what it tastes like lol true story. And crocodile dundee says just how croc meat tastes https://www.google.com.au/search?q=crocodile+dundee+you+can+live+on+it+but+it+tasts+like&sca_esv=579734912&sxsrf=AM9HkKkhB3rRJUsNpDouv4_OKRgiuASESw%3A1699258754717&ei=gqFIZbijK4Xd1e8PguODqAs&ved=0ahUKEwi47NKT-K6CAxWFbvUHHYLxALUQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=crocodile+dundee+you+can+live+on+it+but+it+tasts+like&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:ca2673b1,vid:J6deUbS0bDo,st:0 Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue Sent: Monday, November 6, 2023 2:49 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: croc Bill, Based upon your below reply - I HAVE you ask you: How and Why do you know how Sh^* tastes?Inquiring minds want to know. Since you made the crocodile meat comparison, you apparently have supped on Sh^* before. LoL!! Mac -Original Message- From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Nov 4, 2023 2:00 AM To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: RE: croc About 2,800 to 3000 lb hard to say without knowing the length about 18 feet but that’s just a guess, Aboriginal like them but I think they taste like s—t lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2023 4:03 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) Subject: Re: croc Bill, WOW - That's a BIG'UN!! (Or are the 3 humans pygmies/dwarfs?) Any idea how much one like that weighs? Do you folks eat them? (Remember the saying?: "Eat it - or be eaten!!") Here in the USA you can order/eat alligator meat. I think for the most part - those come from "alligator farms" - so I expect the meat is "safe" to eat. Knowing that in the wild, gators & crocs eat all sorts of stuff, I wouldn't be quite so willing to try one not farm-raised. Thanks for the pic. Mac -Original Message- From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Nov 4, 2023 12:54 AM To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: croc Ok not legacy I know sorry but thought a few of you might like to see this. There are heaps this size these days Fishing in the north here you have to keep your eyes open lol Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/735e6f97-69e3-32c6-9dda-2581847db851%40earthlink.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000701da108a%24cd67bcb0%2468373610%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/d5bbf804-f78d-b878-6c9d-29e46eec74af%40earthlink.net.
RE: croc
Bill, Based upon your below reply - I HAVE you ask you: How and Why do you know how Sh^* tastes?Inquiring minds want to know. Since you made the crocodile meat comparison, you apparently have supped on Sh^* before. LoL!! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Nov 4, 2023 2:00 AM To: Subject: RE: croc About 2,800 to 3000 lb hard to say without knowing the length about 18 feet but that’s just a guess, Aboriginal like them but I think they taste like s—t lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2023 4:03 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: croc Bill, WOW - That's a BIG'UN!! (Or are the 3 humans pygmies/dwarfs?) Any idea how much one like that weighs? Do you folks eat them? (Remember the saying?: "Eat it - or be eaten!!") Here in the USA you can order/eat alligator meat. I think for the most part - those come from "alligator farms" - so I expect the meat is "safe" to eat. Knowing that in the wild, gators & crocs eat all sorts of stuff, I wouldn't be quite so willing to try one not farm-raised. Thanks for the pic. Mac -Original Message- From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Nov 4, 2023 12:54 AM To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: croc Ok not legacy I know sorry but thought a few of you might like to see this. There are heaps this size these days Fishing in the north here you have to keep your eyes open lol Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/735e6f97-69e3-32c6-9dda-2581847db851%40earthlink.net.
Re: Gear making
Curt, Now I have learned something new - thanks to Bill and you. I'm probably not alone in that "education" - others here may learn as well - which is why we are all here of course. Thanks. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Nov 4, 2023 1:01 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Gear making Hay Mac. "Hobbing is a machining (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobbing) process for gear cutting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gear_cutting), cutting splines (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotating_spline), and cutting sprockets (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprocket) using a hobbing machine, a specialized milling machine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milling_machine). The teeth or splines of the gear are progressively cut into the material (such as a flat, cylindrical piece of metal or thermoset plastic) by a series of cuts made by a cutting tool (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutting_tool_(metalworking)) called a hob." (there is more.) Now WHY it got its name ??? I do not know, I only know that I was shone how to do it when I was in trade school. and I've done it a few times over the years to make worm gears. I Hope this helps. C.A.G. On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 12:53:54 AM EDT, M.W.Foscue wrote: OK guys - I thought a "hob" was a British/Aussie term for what we Revolutionaries call a stove. What's this "new" use of hob mean? Thanks guys. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Nov 4, 2023 12:30 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Gear making Hello Everyone. Dan I do like the video. As Bill stated I was attempting to make/hob a worm gear for the Legacy. Using my lathe, I had moderate success with this idea. but sadly other things got in the way, and I ended up put this project aside, and have not gotten back to it. This person's hobbing machine that he made in the video is very nice. Perhaps its time to start looking at this idea again? Thank you . C.A.G. On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:29:16 PM EDT, wrote: Home made gear hob nice find Dan curt was looking at a similar method as a possible way of making our leadscrews a few years back Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.comSent: Saturday, November 4, 2023 12:20 PMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Gear making For those of us interested in making our own gears for LOM, this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP3EHZ-S0sY)I stumbled into seems to offer a workable solution for those of us without laser cutters. This would probably work best for the small teeth. The larger teeth on the REVO standard index gear can be made another simple way with a mill using a slitting saw. DanK -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/07ed6a42-e955-edae-99d6-859fca54ab61%40earthlink.net.
Re: croc
Bill, WOW - That's a BIG'UN!! (Or are the 3 humans pygmies/dwarfs?) Any idea how much one like that weighs? Do you folks eat them? (Remember the saying?: "Eat it - or be eaten!!") Here in the USA you can order/eat alligator meat. I think for the most part - those come from "alligator farms" - so I expect the meat is "safe" to eat. Knowing that in the wild, gators & crocs eat all sorts of stuff, I wouldn't be quite so willing to try one not farm-raised. Thanks for the pic. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Nov 4, 2023 12:54 AM To: Subject: croc Ok not legacy I know sorry but thought a few of you might like to see this. There are heaps this size these days Fishing in the north here you have to keep your eyes open lol Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/39af5105-cb7d-a2c0-7110-02f0eecedc83%40earthlink.net.
Re: Gear making
OK guys - I thought a "hob" was a British/Aussie term for what we Revolutionaries call a stove. What's this "new" use of hob mean? Thanks guys. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Nov 4, 2023 12:30 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Gear making Hello Everyone. Dan I do like the video. As Bill stated I was attempting to make/hob a worm gear for the Legacy. Using my lathe, I had moderate success with this idea. but sadly other things got in the way, and I ended up put this project aside, and have not gotten back to it. This person's hobbing machine that he made in the video is very nice. Perhaps its time to start looking at this idea again? Thank you . C.A.G. On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:29:16 PM EDT, wrote: Home made gear hob nice find Dan curt was looking at a similar method as a possible way of making our leadscrews a few years back Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.comSent: Saturday, November 4, 2023 12:20 PMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Gear making For those of us interested in making our own gears for LOM, this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP3EHZ-S0sY)I stumbled into seems to offer a workable solution for those of us without laser cutters. This would probably work best for the small teeth. The larger teeth on the REVO standard index gear can be made another simple way with a mill using a slitting saw. DanK -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/f6ef55f6-aa89-5b2f-8fd6-1ee0c663c691%40earthlink.net.
Re: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know
Dan, Thank you - however, I am unable to open a document saved as "ods". I use an Apple Mac Powerbook with the latest software/updates. Is there another format you can send it in? Thanks. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Oct 29, 2023 2:38 PM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know This is EXACTLY the concept of my REVO mods in the same area. I was not aware Curt had already addressed the issue of indexing by moving the frame as the Legacy videos demonstrate. As Curt stated in 100% lockstep, "my goal was to make things more simple". Not only does it allow more possibilities, it makes the current possibilities more reliably repeatable. Butbecause "I didn't know", y'all get the benefit of the stones I used to get there! Sharing the latest version of the charts again. As usual, copy and replace the older ones if the version number doesn't match what you have. DanKOn Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 2:22:06 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote: Hello Guys! Just work up. (its 1:56pm.) Long night at work I got home form a 15hr day at 5:30am. I only state this due to me coming to this topic late... I have not seen this video. (Nice) But for the Group We can use these disks in the same way as Ron Brown shown. But We can also use them in another way. By making a simple jig to mount onto these type of disks, We can lock the plate together with the spindle so that we can move the part separately form the Legacy gearing system. Meaning By using a indexing system together with the gears of the Legacy, Can/Will allow you to do more complex ropes easer with out all this carriage movement as for the offsetting of each rope. The idea is a modification form Mike P.'s carriage indexing video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw (Mike's video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYb-fe4GS8M (My indexing Mod.) NOTE: Same but different concepts, Mike uses the acme screw for the indexing, I am using the gears, Not trying to get anyone confused, so I need to clarify things. No onto the "Brown's best" Indexing plates. By making a locking method for the 1-8" headstock of the Legacy, you can lock his indexing plates onto the Legacy, Then you can lock the part onto the plate, by removing the indexing pin will allow you to index the part while leaving the gears locked into place. This makes it easer for indexing flutes, and or roping. (depending on your needs.) NOTE: on my roping indexing plates are made to be simple, 2,3,4,6,8. indexes so I do not have to count holes, My goal was to make things more simple, But using a more adaptable indexing plate (like these Brown indexing plates) will allow more possibility's, (similar to Dan's checkering) Have a good day everyone. C.A.G. On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 10:56:33 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler wrote: Yup a bushing and you're all set.Kind Regards,Timothy J. Ziegler On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 3:34 PM wrote: There are index plates on ebay too that could be made to fit the legacy https://www.ebay.com/itm/361588846468 Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Sunday, October 29, 2023 5:37 AMTo: LOM Group Subject: Re: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know Hey Curt I could post it again. It really never drew much interest but always worth a try. He sure has some interesting items for sure. It's cool you've met him too. On Sat, Oct 28, 2023, 8:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: Wow there are some really Cool things on this site. Ron Brown I have meet and talked to many time over the years.(at the wood working shows.) I do own some of his toys. But this Off-center chuck and ladle chuck are Very nice, And I could see those being used with and on the Legacy. Nice find Tim. I know you put the Longworth chuck on your rotary table Tim, Could you post a photo of your MOD? (I am sure many in the group have not seen it.) C.A.G. On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 07:10:14 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler wrote: Turning accessories we all could use. I have his LongWorth Chuck. And its the one I mounted on my Rotary Table on my 1200. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1873dab8-aba8-8468-9bc8-a1ca9cc3f19b%40earthlink.net.
Re: Checkering today
Dan, VERY Nice! Thanks for sharing. You can employ it as a "Home Defense Cudgel" if need be. Let's hope you don't need to! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Oct 28, 2023 2:34 PM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Checkering today Yes, 720 index positions was my ambitious goal and I realized either a giant plate, a second duplex set, or (Eureka) a 72 hole plate with a 10 hole vernier would get the 1/2° resolution needed to get into the checkering ballpark. Y'all witnessed the struggle. :) This handle took about 2 hours. It would take me (a relatively inexperienced checker-er) about two days to lay out, cut, and dress this rather large field. This handle really comes alive with a Danish oil finish! Haven't decided what to use it for. In the mean time, I'll just enjoy looking at it and feeling the crisp texture. Opens up some design features. DanK On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 11:14:35 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote: Very nice job. 36 starts is way beyond anything that I've made over the years. Awesome work. thank you. C.A.G. On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 09:31:53 AM EDT, cdkr...@gmail.com wrote: Curt, this is the same process used on the proof of concept test pieces. It is a 60° magnate router bit with three carbide lips sharpened to a very crisp point. The wood is apple which is a fine wood for carving. I used 36 holes of the 72 hole index ring I made on the standard index gear because the diameter is much smaller than the test pieces. The spacing changes as it proceeds down the taper, almost imperceptibly but the depth of cut is the same all the way. The depth of cut is fairly deep at 0.063" (1/16"). Precision at every point is paramount. Even the imperceptible backlash of my REVO was too much. Had to cut unidirectional. Tedious. But this handle went quickly because it's short and only 36 starts. DanKOn Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:55:36 AM UTC-4 Ccm Ccm wrote: Very nice On Friday, October 27, 2023, cdkr...@gmail.com wrote: Finished the cross hatch. Look at how sharp and crisp the diamonds are. This raw off the LOM, no hand touch up. The change in spacing is barely detectable from large to small end of this 2 3/4" stretch. DanK On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:05:41 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote: Very Good Dan. It's great to see a plan coming together. Kind Regards,Timothy J. Ziegler On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the work so far. The taper is just a hair over 2° and I wondered how much that would affect the spacing at the small end. I probably won't see it until touching up. You can see the tilt of the spindle rails that put the cutting surface parallel to the main frame. I'm going to try one with a slightly increased taper and let the checkering fade into nothingness And the chart update. DanK On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote: Today I was motivated to checker an apple piece that I tapered in a typical handle fashion. So using the Taper Chart sheet from the now named "LegacyCharts_V10.4" I found that the upper limit to the REVO settings for taper is 3/8", i.e. the spindle rails won't go clear up to the main frame rails. So I altered the chart to give a warning about values that can't be used. And while I was versioning, I decided that the name should be adjusted to better reflect content. These are the settings I went with and was anxious about accuracy of the taper calcs. They're dead on! This is what it looks like to set up. Needs pretty precise measuring. My picture of the work got corrupted in transfer, so after supper. DanK -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/23786d97-bc7f-8970-9976-5b2802e936ce%40earthlink.net.
Re: Legacy 900 for sale in WI
Tim, If there's enough interest in the Tilting Jig, maybe your bro could produce some? Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Oct 26, 2023 7:05 AM To: Subject: Re: Legacy 900 for sale in WI yup me too. I suppose i can see how far that is from me lol.Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 6:03 AM Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com)> wrote: I noticed the linear molding table but missed the tilting vertical vise. I guess I have to add that to my wish list now, lol. Thanks Bill Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2023, at 6:11 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au (mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au) wrote: Very nice mill and I see it comes with one of the rare tilting vertical vice first one I have seen since the one I had that I lost in the fire Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 3:13 PM To: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: Legacy 900 for sale in WI https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1571681723364793/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Af8b32298-3c45-4b75-a026-6215f70fa809 Nice Legs. ;-) (AND a pretty nice machine...) C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/367290286.1458055.1698293558550%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/002501da07f4%24a1c68e90%24e553abb0%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/52424824-1DD6-4EA9-80BD-DFA748F30F66%40gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLETJWUnXCBHLuKpvOCKHpLNBTGxeigV1YZinW-pmewMNQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/6caf1e38-358e-4ab9-31a6-8d5c7a82c77a%40earthlink.net.
Re: Here is Legacy's Russian cousin
Be careful, Curtis. You are going to have Tim Z wanting to travel there and bring one home in order to see how he can make it a better machine! LoL! You are so right - that machine is years behind even our manual LOMs! Never mind the newer CNC-based ones. Cheers! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Oct 11, 2023 12:05 AM To: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: Here is Legacy's Russian cousin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxvkMf69_vs&t=172s A fun look at what other Ornamental mills around the world are making. This video is a few years old, but it just goes to show you all, the we have it much easer/better using the Legacy to do the same things. C.A.G. 7099342%40mail.yahoo.com (https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1588866334.6642846.1696997099342%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/e4f2352b-dd60-de70-0d0f-b36a96b28df0%40earthlink.net.
Re: New video of design elements (roping on a tapped)
Curtis, That is a "Dog-gone" great video! (How many do you have? - dogs that is.) By the way - we also enjoyed the side show of you cutting up a piece of wood with an angle grinder! LoL! Thanks for sharing. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Oct 8, 2023 10:29 PM To: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: New video of design elements (roping on a tapped) Thank you Bill for posting this for me. I am using my 200. Cutting a rope on a tapper using my angle grinder as the cutting tool. Everything done here could be done on any Legacy modal if the user is cutting form the side of the work piece. The angle grinder dose a good job removing the wood, But its only one piece of equipment in my tool box. Please let me know what you think? Any comments and suggestions are always welcome. C.A.G. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e45JdyzQ-FE -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/bb0435ae-c562-c55d-fbcb-d799a42bbf54%40earthlink.net.
Re: Thread cutting target reached!
Dan, Excellent video! Thank you for sharing/posting it. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Sep 22, 2023 10:12 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Thread cutting target reached! Some time ago I had a series of posts about that index gear mounting modification. I made a special bushing that allows the index gear to spin freely. At the outboard end of the bushing is a flat holding the index arm secured to the lathe spindle. You'll notice (if you have a REVO) that here the index gear runs on the OUTSIDE duplex gear and the "change rotation" idler runs on the INSIDE duplex gear, "inside out" to the original. This was necessary because of the space the bushing takes up. This allows me to index any number of starts (up to 24) on a work piece with confident repeatable accuracy. The method of limiting starts to the relationship between cutter and circumference chafed me. Yes, there is still a loose relationship needed to create attractive profiles but this eliminates that calculation and makes repeat passes accurate, useful when all the passes are done and some touchup is needed. If profile passes are stacked, this assures that the subsequent passes are perfectly aligned with the previous, or can predictably be offset. Me thinks it opens up creative design possibilities that might otherwise be kinda sketchy. For example, if I want to create some form of checkering, this makes it trivial. If the index gear is restored to it's original position on the lathe spindle without the bushing, it goes back to factory original where the factory index pin is usable. I found the video that explains it (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pRAFDnFUQBSPXMCgvlafoLpx7D6LaDC-/view?usp=sharing), and reposted it. It will come down soon because I use the space for other things. DanK On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 9:10:24 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote: Good morning Dan. I don't want to change the subject. but I do have a question on your photo. INDEXING Plate in your photo? Please tell us more about that! C.A.G. On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 08:48:45 AM EDT, cdkr...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, I don't understand why you don't have one like this. Doesn't EVERYONE have 1/2" acrylic pieces laying around? LOL! It's a piece of discarded colored plastic that had the right shape and seems sturdy enough. I milled a slot for height adjustment and mounted a piece of HDPE with a groove in it. It too has a slot for adjustment, but doesn't really need it. I'm a hoarder and keep stuff (organized) for up to 50 years before I find a use for it! And it still happens that the week after a clean out, I NEED what was thrown away. You want one? DanKOn Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 10:10:01 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote: Wow very cool. I like your steady rest too. You make that or is that Revo specific? I don't have one with mine. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 3:58 PM cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:This is the item that started the gear calc frenzy. It meets all my expectations after putting a steady rest under the center that tended to move away from even the slightest cut. The REVO is accurate enough that this thread was not distorted in the least by at least 8 passes trying to get the thread in the middle right. Two of those were after the steady rest went on. Something close to this is the target. DanK -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/ee931aaa-e9c7-b5c7-5905-9e2d7c0ea785%40earthlink.net.
Re: Legacy for sale on Face Book Market place. $100.00
Tim, Ya better check with NY Joe (Joe Biuno) - as he has already headed out - which means he's probably almost to Weston, WV. Safe travels & good luck! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Sep 18, 2023 10:37 PM To: Subject: Re: Legacy for sale on Face Book Market place. $100.00 wow on my way lol.Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 9:05 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Looks nice for the price. C.A.G. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/663086512465675/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Abf18fe88-f2b1-4bc6-8c5f-e4b2b077e94e Legacy Woodworking Ornamental Lathe$100 Listed 5 days ago in Weston, WV (https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/109368989081574/) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/9d120f6b-9945-2e74-67d5-deaaf5760f3a%40earthlink.net.
Re: Gear calculations
Dan, Thanks. The "fog" is clearing. Making a gear or two for a 1-off or 3-off project seems like a way to go - given what you've shared. If needing gears for a "long haul", my guess is pony up the pennies and farm the project out to Tim Z's brother - as he is aa machinist (or at least owns the machinery and has the skill set. Best of luck to ya! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Sep 12, 2023 6:16 PM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Gear calculations No worries, mate. Bill can do math upside down and backwards. I've just posted more updates. My goal doing all this is to be able to easily extend the capabilities of my REVO LOM. Specifically, the current shop project is restoring a wooden hand plane that needs wooden threads typical of the era 3/4 - 6 (dia - pitch). I have a thread box, but it doesn't do well in the wood I have, so the REVO is called to duty. But the pitch required on the wooden dowel is not reachable with the standard gear set for the REVO even if I had all the gears made that would fit it. So the simplest route turned complex-- make custom gears. But I don't think I know anyone yet that can generate an accurate DXF file without knowing the module of the gears. A DXF file communicates the gear specifications from a drawing to a G-code generator that operates a CNC device of some sort, be it laser, water jet, machining, or 3D printer. Any two gears that mesh must have the same module. There are two modules used on the most common LOMs, one for driver gear (the little teeth) and one for the index gear (larger teeth). So a milestone has been reached. Now I will be looking for ways to actually make the gear I need. I have 1/8" acrylic sheets that I can scroll saw to shape. I also have machining tools capable of gear cutting, i.e. mill and index head. I'll poke around some before I get serious about hiring someone to make the gears, but I won't turn down leads. DanK On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:41:45 PM UTC-4 M.W.Foscue wrote: I think we may have a "Rocket Scientist" amongst us! LoL!! Dan - I'm impressed with the level of detail/calculations and questions you come up with. Please explain - once you know the module - how do you employ/use it? Glad you asked the question - but, as you can tell, I have no clue as to what you are addressing here. However I have interest in what you are asking and how you will use the answer(s) - as well as how the rest of us will, as well, in our own unique situations. Question: Does Bill B. (Aussie man) have to use this equation: 1__ m = OD/(z+2) 😜 Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Sep 12, 2023 1:55 PM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Gear calculations Hi guys, Can anyone confirm my calculations of module for the drive gears and index gears? I calculate: drive gear module = 1.05435 index gear module = 0.09722 These two numbers are in mm and are critical to the accurate production of gears to work on the LOMs, specifically the REVO. The formula I used is m = OD/(z+2) where m is module, OD is outside diamter, and z is the number of teeth. Thank you. DanK -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/a1a38a20-7fba-e0b9-de46-48feee9b8cd9%40earthlink.net.
Re: Gear calculations
I think we may have a "Rocket Scientist" amongst us! LoL!! Dan - I'm impressed with the level of detail/calculations and questions you come up with. Please explain - once you know the module - how do you employ/use it? Glad you asked the question - but, as you can tell, I have no clue as to what you are addressing here. However I have interest in what you are asking and how you will use the answer(s) - as well as how the rest of us will, as well, in our own unique situations. Question: Does Bill B. (Aussie man) have to use this equation: 1__ m = OD/(z+2) 😜 Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Sep 12, 2023 1:55 PM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Gear calculations Hi guys, Can anyone confirm my calculations of module for the drive gears and index gears? I calculate: drive gear module = 1.05435 index gear module = 0.09722 These two numbers are in mm and are critical to the accurate production of gears to work on the LOMs, specifically the REVO. The formula I used is m = OD/(z+2) where m is module, OD is outside diamter, and z is the number of teeth. Thank you. DanK -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/2443c385-c130-4fc0-aa44-c91b8974800fn%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/ae59b00e-c062-5f59-5d06-94e61d812320%40earthlink.net.
Re: Fwd: Tim, Making a Classic Barley Twist on a Legacy CNC
Tim. Thank you, VERY GOOD info.! Cheers! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Sep 5, 2023 10:06 PM To: LOM Group Subject: Fwd: Tim, Making a Classic Barley Twist on a Legacy CNC Here's another one guys. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell -- Forwarded message - From: Legacy Woodworking Machinery mailto:j...@legacywoodworking.com)> Date: Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 5:27 PM Subject: Tim, Making a Classic Barley Twist on a Legacy CNC To: Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> Hi Tim, We're going to show the barley twist router bit in action. This video covers how to make classic barley twists using Legacy's CCAM software and Magnate's series of barley twist router bits. Legacy developed both the router bit profiles and the software so you can easily go from a rough blank to a barley twist in minutes. (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ5b3V0dS5iZSUyRlJXSjFIdERzY3pN&a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C&account=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com&email=qAV%2FjzakDal2SZvZpQbTyPYEJsLhHBi8Sfl%2BTHwl%2F56O0kg1sQ%3D%3D%3Ai3k3QnlXAvUO98De%2FSj%2FMOSS6fu4UtiF&s=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f&i=924A5010A3A12465&sig=3znfPABCk9FcekcHUsdsPwYtJRka3xM8baFcXe4aYCJu&iat=1693952844) Watch The Video (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ5b3V0dS5iZSUyRlJXSjFIdERzY3pN&a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C&account=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com&email=qAV%2FjzakDal2SZvZpQbTyPYEJsLhHBi8Sfl%2BTHwl%2F56O0kg1sQ%3D%3D%3Ai3k3QnlXAvUO98De%2FSj%2FMOSS6fu4UtiF&s=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f&i=924A5010A3A12465&sig=3znfPABCk9FcekcHUsdsPwYtJRka3xM8baFcXe4aYCJu&iat=1693952844) Magnate manufactures a series of rope molding router bits for the Legacy CNC. The bits are made with high grade micrograin carbide. You can purchase the bits directly from Magnate at www.magnate.net (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cubWFnbmF0ZS5uZXQlMkZTZWFyY2hSZXN1bHRzLmFzcCUzRkNhdCUzRDExNg%3D%3D&a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C&account=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com&email=qAV%2FjzakDal2SZvZpQbTyPYEJsLhHBi8Sfl%2BTHwl%2F56O0kg1sQ%3D%3D%3Ai3k3QnlXAvUO98De%2FSj%2FMOSS6fu4UtiF&s=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f&i=924A5010A3A12466&sig=GP93DKKgFVoM1KtkfLFdqj3ADG4Cyt8K2a8XvqqAqXis&iat=1693952844) www.magnate.net (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cubWFnbmF0ZS5uZXQlMkZTZWFyY2hSZXN1bHRzLmFzcCUzRkNhdCUzRDExNg%3D%3D&a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C&account=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com&email=qAV%2FjzakDal2SZvZpQbTyPYEJsLhHBi8Sfl%2BTHwl%2F56O0kg1sQ%3D%3D%3Ai3k3QnlXAvUO98De%2FSj%2FMOSS6fu4UtiF&s=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f&i=924A5010A3A12466&sig=GP93DKKgFVoM1KtkfLFdqj3ADG4Cyt8K2a8XvqqAqXis&iat=1693952844) Call 801491 0010 or visit out website to learn more about CNC woodworking without limitations www.lwmcnc.com (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cubHdtY25jLmNvbQ%3D%3D&a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C&account=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com&email=qAV%2FjzakDal2SZvZpQbTyPYEJsLhHBi8Sfl%2BTHwl%2F56O0kg1sQ%3D%3D%3Ai3k3QnlXAvUO98De%2FSj%2FMOSS6fu4UtiF&s=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f&i=924A5010A3A12457&sig=f94qLEmqsgNzgwDMaTRQhvHT6eNdLmusRisfkdwnfog&iat=1693952844) (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cuZmFjZWJvb2suY29t&a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C&account=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com&email=qAV%2FjzakDal2SZvZpQbTyPYEJsLhHBi8Sfl%2BTHwl%2F56O0kg1sQ%3D%3D%3Ai3k3QnlXAvUO98De%2FSj%2FMOSS6fu4UtiF&s=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f&i=924A5010A3A12458&sig=BBqf91UgQAoexoMsJKPuBMbodLKcsD1VKS2SjTHsWfqn&iat=1693952844) (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ0d2l0dGVyLmNvbQ%3D%3D&a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C&account=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com&email=qAV%2FjzakDal2SZvZpQbTyPYEJsLhHBi8Sfl%2BTHwl%2F56O0kg1sQ%3D%3D%3Ai3k3QnlXAvUO98De%2FSj%2FMOSS6fu4UtiF&s=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f&i=924A5010A3A12459&sig=DrUKNYPsXxutftfJCcumARZQY6En7fCyhQMNdyQBhLwa&iat=1693952844) (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cubGlua2VkaW4uY29t&a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C&account=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com&email=qAV%2FjzakDal2SZvZpQbTyPYEJsLhHBi8Sfl%2BTHwl%2F56O0kg1sQ%3D%3D%3Ai3k3QnlXAvUO98De%2FSj%2FMOSS6fu4UtiF&s=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f&i=924A5010A3A12460&sig=6iQDNzM9jFdu2GFcwNPneZoGtPQxwvBdYqAgAs6feXU&iat=1693952844) (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cueW91dHViZS5jb20%3D&a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C&account=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com&email=qAV%2FjzakDal2SZvZpQbTyPYEJsLhHBi8Sfl%2BTHwl%2F56O0kg1sQ%3D%3D%3Ai3k3QnlXAvUO98De%2FSj%2FMOSS6fu4UtiF&s=0f9
Re: Fwd: Tim, Making a Diamond Rope Twist on a Legacy CNC
Tim, Thanks. If I received it - it ma have been in SPAM folder. Thanks for the forward. For folks not on Legacy's email list - this should be useful from the standpoint of the router bits used. These are the same bits we use in our manual/pre-CNC Mills. Cheers! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Sep 1, 2023 9:57 PM To: LOM Group Subject: Fwd: Tim, Making a Diamond Rope Twist on a Legacy CNC I forward this to the group last week too and received no response. Are there any interested Lurkers or do most of you receive this already? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler -- Forwarded message - From: Legacy Woodworking Machinery mailto:j...@legacywoodworking.com)> Date: Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 1:40 PM Subject: Tim, Making a Diamond Rope Twist on a Legacy CNC To: Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> Hi Tim, We're going to continue our rope molding router bit discussion by showing another video. This video covers how to make rope twists in both directions using Legacy's CCAM software and Magnate's series of rope molding router bits. Legacy developed both the router bit profiles and the software so you can easily go from a rough blank to a rope twist in minutes. (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ5b3V0dS5iZSUyRnZzNTF0aU1FSHk0&a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C&account=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com&email=6jEiiyC9PItQIeJQI%2BeNFGtNHChwBAeeRfzMlTN2jTBLjjkatw%3D%3D%3AD8v4uwmA%2BZ9V3s6JwybCun3WxxilQjdT&s=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f&i=923A5003A3A12451&sig=7qc3YmSrwVEtoAokLdm1j6QfjScdbZG8yPvd2oFbKgwc&iat=1693593474) Watch The Video (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ5b3V0dS5iZSUyRnZzNTF0aU1FSHk0&a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C&account=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com&email=6jEiiyC9PItQIeJQI%2BeNFGtNHChwBAeeRfzMlTN2jTBLjjkatw%3D%3D%3AD8v4uwmA%2BZ9V3s6JwybCun3WxxilQjdT&s=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f&i=923A5003A3A12451&sig=7qc3YmSrwVEtoAokLdm1j6QfjScdbZG8yPvd2oFbKgwc&iat=1693593474) Magnate manufactures a series of rope molding router bits for the Legacy CNC. The bits are made with high grade micrograin carbide. You can purchase the bits directly from Magnate at www.magnate.net (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cubWFnbmF0ZS5uZXQlMkZTZWFyY2hSZXN1bHRzLmFzcCUzRkNhdCUzRDEwNg%3D%3D&a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C&account=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com&email=6jEiiyC9PItQIeJQI%2BeNFGtNHChwBAeeRfzMlTN2jTBLjjkatw%3D%3D%3AD8v4uwmA%2BZ9V3s6JwybCun3WxxilQjdT&s=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f&i=923A5003A3A12439&sig=ETFCdW1HuBzFE2S5DEQz65xQBhjdMNpcf3i5JZtv9neR&iat=1693593474) www.magnate.net (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cubWFnbmF0ZS5uZXQlMkZTZWFyY2hSZXN1bHRzLmFzcCUzRkNhdCUzRDEwNg%3D%3D&a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C&account=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com&email=6jEiiyC9PItQIeJQI%2BeNFGtNHChwBAeeRfzMlTN2jTBLjjkatw%3D%3D%3AD8v4uwmA%2BZ9V3s6JwybCun3WxxilQjdT&s=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f&i=923A5003A3A12439&sig=ETFCdW1HuBzFE2S5DEQz65xQBhjdMNpcf3i5JZtv9neR&iat=1693593474) Call 801491 0010 or visit out website to learn more about CNC woodworking without limitations www.lwmcnc.com (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cubHdtY25jLmNvbQ%3D%3D&a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C&account=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com&email=6jEiiyC9PItQIeJQI%2BeNFGtNHChwBAeeRfzMlTN2jTBLjjkatw%3D%3D%3AD8v4uwmA%2BZ9V3s6JwybCun3WxxilQjdT&s=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f&i=923A5003A3A12440&sig=CQV4DG1ZmcS5XkRjn8C2WGizgrYnvyXWTzYMxSm5rAq&iat=1693593474) (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cuZmFjZWJvb2suY29t&a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C&account=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com&email=6jEiiyC9PItQIeJQI%2BeNFGtNHChwBAeeRfzMlTN2jTBLjjkatw%3D%3D%3AD8v4uwmA%2BZ9V3s6JwybCun3WxxilQjdT&s=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f&i=923A5003A3A12441&sig=HR3ZDsZaJqeW8Q4t5Yrx5zLKH8hjjFsM7rEDwM4xSkd2&iat=1693593474) (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ0d2l0dGVyLmNvbQ%3D%3D&a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C&account=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com&email=6jEiiyC9PItQIeJQI%2BeNFGtNHChwBAeeRfzMlTN2jTBLjjkatw%3D%3D%3AD8v4uwmA%2BZ9V3s6JwybCun3WxxilQjdT&s=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f&i=923A5003A3A12442&sig=6Ho9RsDE3rPh17wB9VVzdJU4tGLXowDKfWmB4neJWyhP&iat=1693593474) (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cubGlua2VkaW4uY29t&a=%7C%7C252137679%7C%7C&account=legacywoodworking.activehosted.com&email=6jEiiyC9PItQIeJQI%2BeNFGtNHChwBAeeRfzMlTN2jTBLjjkatw%3D%3D%3AD8v4uwmA%2BZ9V3s6JwybCun3WxxilQjdT&s=0f948c1abc41bcbf73a8fc168bb6c67f&i=923A5003A3A12443&sig=9EC5CCZ6i3u6zkpCCH1JM4fuX8Z4KAKyS4ecYng4U1FF&iat=1693593474) (https://legacywoodworking.lt.acemlnb.com/Prod/link-tracker?redirectUrl=aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cu
Re: fathers day
Bill, Very nice of your kids! That is a great looking piece of wood. Can't wait to see what you make from it. Happy Father's Day! (Here in the USA, we celebrate Father's Day in June.) Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Sep 2, 2023 3:44 AM To: Subject: fathers day Got my father’s day present from my kids early today instead of tomorrow because the courier dropped it off on the wrong day lol great for me I had no idea they were getting this for me. Fully carbide inserts helical spiral so quiet so smooth and no snipe this piece of Tasmanian black hardwood looks like it’s been sanded with 320 grit instead of strait off the thicknesser very impressive machine I will never go make to full length hss blades again Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/01d9dd71%243da1b0f0%24b8e512d0%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/60037ecf-3842-7039-2516-4cb5f2953839%40earthlink.net.
RE: ROLL CALL!!!
Bill, I know I've thanked you before for all that you do/have done for our Group. I just want to reiterate my thanks again - especially now knowing how many HOURS it takes! Thank you! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 27, 2023 7:34 PM To: Subject: RE: ROLL CALL!!! Thank you as well Ray making those videos especially the tutorials were very time consuming a 20 minuet video with all the setup steps and all the editing and uploading to youtube would take like 10 or 12 hours it’s a very long day. So now I know people are watching them and saving them for reference I don’t care who shares or copies them I made them for everyone that makes it all worth it. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Ray Leaman Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 3:18 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ROLL CALL!!! I will add my thanks Bill for your efforts and videos. I watch them and keep them for reference. Will look forward to more in the future. Good on ya. On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 1:14 PM mailto:viking89...@charter.net)> wrote: Bill, Just a quick note of appreciation and encouragement regarding your tutorials. I greatly value any help and instruction I can get. Thanks in advance, Jon From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au (mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au) Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2023 1:53 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) Subject: RE: ROLL CALL!!! I am so glad to see all these people chiming in to say hello I truly thought the group was almost finished there only ever seemed to be mostly me ,Tim and Curt posting legacy stuff alone with very few comments no matter what we tried there was very little interest only Curts bone milling got a few reply’s, I was truly discouraged and turned my attention away to scroll sawing for a while and any minor legacy news of things I was doing I just communicated with privet emails to the guys I didn’t think there was anybody much left in the group to read the posts. Looks like I was wrong, people are still looking at what we do, comments good or bad inspire us to do more things on our legacys and post them I even stopped making my video series of ornamental milling for beginners because I thought only one or 2 people were looking at them. After I complete my last 2 scroll saw projects I might just have to do something legacy again and post it to the group. Bill --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/0b5e01d9d773%246b79b710%24426d2530%24%40gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/legacy-ornamental-mills/o2HkNApcm6A/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000201d9d7fa%24c23e29f0%2446ba7dd0%24%40mmnet.com.au. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/004301d9d909%24f7a9be50%24e6fd3af0%24%40charter.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAEnRCdLnSKyqKe2ptTwWmmGz35TyafFNEuhw4WVC3JXXCOmT_Q%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit h
Re: New video on bone turning
Hey Curtis, Thanks. Very interesting video you put together there. You've got the Z-axis adjustment device down to a ritual. Great job. One request - please get a VERY GOOD dust collection setup on the rig and/or wear a HIGH level of protection respirator. We don't want you going down with respiratory issues breathing all that bone dust! Cheers! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 20, 2023 9:55 PM To: Subject: Re: New video on bone turning Hey Curt, Super excited to view the whole thing for sure. I watched a bit to get it started. Very good. Stay tuned. Kind Regards,Timothy J. Ziegler On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 3:22 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: There is no talking, only music and turning. I Thought I would try something new. Please let me know what you think? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKMimY9JGk8 C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/784be50c-4663-12e9-d287-712b9bd3b0ff%40earthlink.net.
Re: Magnate router bits - Woodpeckers "UltraShear"
I agree - well worth checking out. Bill - any idea as to how much it would cost to get one of their bits sent "Down Under"? Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 11, 2023 5:25 PM To: Subject: Re: Magnate router bits - Woodpeckers "UltraShear" Yea and for the price they are going to rock the router bit industry too. I am leaning on checking theirs out for sure.Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 11:41 PM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net)> wrote: Hello Curtis, Thanks for that. Have you seen the new product line that Woodpeckers Tools has come out with - several months ago? Here is a link (https://www.woodpeck.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=ultrashear) to their web page for their new line of high quality router bits - they call it "UltraShear" (https://www.woodpeck.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=ultrashear). Most all of thebits are solid carbide and they are all made here in America - as they say at conclusion of their videos "Made right here in Strongsville, Ohio". Enjoy! Mac -Original Message- From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Aug 11, 2023 12:26 AM To: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: Magnate router bits. https://www.magnate.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=RBCABINETMAKER Hello Everyone. I know its Vacation season and most of our members are out on Leave/Vacation. So I thought it would be a good idea to run over an old Idea that many of our group takes for granted. ROUTER Bits! And for the Price and range of stiles Magnate is hard to beat! As for the Work horse of the Legacy Ornamental Mill is (https://www.magnate.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=2705)Magnate 2705 Surface Planing ( Bottom Cleaning ) Router Bit - 1-1/2" Cutting Diameter; 1/2" Shank Diameter; 15/32" Cutting Length; 2" Shank Length (https://www.magnate.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=2705) Good for cleaning out dadoes and cutting wide square grooves. Leaves a smooth clean finished surface. Also perfect for milling round, square, or flat stock on the Legacy Ornamental Mill. (https://www.magnate.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=2705) Our Price: $26.13 $26.13 is by far the best deal that you can find anywhere. At the two local wood supply stores, Rockler and Wood Craft the starting price for any router bit is $36.00 and UP. which for me this makes Magnate a even better deal. Have a good night. C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1707039106.1621092.1691727990513%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/b3acfba5-a276-6a52-ed8c-676d92f26f14%40earthlink.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLEJo3ngZEyFiZnJmqwL-nE403yu-ncxAmirFfTf6ixZhA%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/ff73880a-7782-d5a8-96d9-f2af03cc1ec0%40earthlink.net.
Re: Magnate router bits - Woodpeckers "UltraShear"
Hello Curtis, Thanks for that. Have you seen the new product line that Woodpeckers Tools has come out with - several months ago? Here is a link (https://www.woodpeck.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=ultrashear) to their web page for their new line of high quality router bits - they call it "UltraShear" (https://www.woodpeck.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=ultrashear). Most all of thebits are solid carbide and they are all made here in America - as they say at conclusion of their videos "Made right here in Strongsville, Ohio". Enjoy! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 11, 2023 12:26 AM To: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: Magnate router bits. https://www.magnate.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=RBCABINETMAKER Hello Everyone. I know its Vacation season and most of our members are out on Leave/Vacation. So I thought it would be a good idea to run over an old Idea that many of our group takes for granted. ROUTER Bits! And for the Price and range of stiles Magnate is hard to beat! As for the Work horse of the Legacy Ornamental Mill is (https://www.magnate.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=2705)Magnate 2705 Surface Planing ( Bottom Cleaning ) Router Bit - 1-1/2" Cutting Diameter; 1/2" Shank Diameter; 15/32" Cutting Length; 2" Shank Length (https://www.magnate.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=2705) Good for cleaning out dadoes and cutting wide square grooves. Leaves a smooth clean finished surface. Also perfect for milling round, square, or flat stock on the Legacy Ornamental Mill. (https://www.magnate.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=2705) Our Price: $26.13 $26.13 is by far the best deal that you can find anywhere. At the two local wood supply stores, Rockler and Wood Craft the starting price for any router bit is $36.00 and UP. which for me this makes Magnate a even better deal. Have a good night. C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1707039106.1621092.1691727990513%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/b3acfba5-a276-6a52-ed8c-676d92f26f14%40earthlink.net.
Re: This is "NOT" a Legacy video, BUT IT's pretty Neat!
I'm looking forward to seeing one - just like you are Curtis. Bill does great videos. Even his sound track is nice. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 7, 2023 10:49 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: This is "NOT" a Legacy video, BUT IT's pretty Neat! Watch out Bill. It looks like this is you time to make a video. ;-) I know it will be Great! C.A.G. On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:33:51 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler wrote: Great Save my friend!Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 6:32 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: It was but I found what was left of it in the ashes and rebuilt it only a year or 2 ago Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2023 3:42 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)Subject: Re: This is "NOT" a Legacy video, BUT IT's pretty Neat! Bill I thought that is was lost in the fire? I agree its pretty neat! Perhaps one day I will make one, too.? So many idea's , On how to make things, differently. ;-) To much Fun! C.A.G. On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 12:15:14 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: Yea I was playing with that for a while years ago it did some pretty cool balls too.i will have to dig it out and do a video on it one day. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, August 7, 2023 8:42 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)Subject: Re: This is "NOT" a Legacy video, BUT IT's pretty Neat! Wow that is extremely cool I have not seen that from the Archives. I never even fathomed doing a ball on the LOM. How awesome is that. Nice innovations there Bill. Now the wheels are turning again. lol Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 9:35 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: Hello Tim Yes I think its pretty neat. Sorta reminds me of Bill's jig for his Legacy. https://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/ball_attachment/index.html I know that they are different but these types of jigs, really make me think , "Out Side the Box". Fun stuff to think about. there are so many possibilities that are out there for us the discover. ;-) C.A.G. On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 10:29:30 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> wrote: Thats pretty ingenious jig too for sure. I like his wooden gears for sure. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 9:15 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86f-qfwMKv0&t=4s Clever jigs. C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/73ca7703-3a92-ded5-5b20-cb2461f0278e%40earthlink.net.
Re: OT: Things are pretty slow here. Communication problem? LOL
Dan, Excellent one! At least for that one, Bill didn't have to turn his computer screen upside down! (Or would it be "downside up"?) Thanks for sharing. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Aug 1, 2023 10:49 PM To: Subject: Re: OT: Things are pretty slow here. Communication problem? LOL lol good humor DanKind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 7:29 PM cdkr...@gmail.com (mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com) mailto:cdkra...@gmail.com)> wrote: DanK -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/9508e4c2-effe-4013-8f80-11f7ff0c685an%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLH3aHFiPSZgUdoqJ4EsFO_vAedw9iFOzSmaGiVb3NkDYw%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/f4c3b379-afcd-8ad1-74d0-0587b7463dd8%40earthlink.net.
RE: New live center for my 200
Bill, We mostly use "cycles" - but on rare occasion, you will see Hz. On electric appliances, motors, etc. you will see one or the other. As for voltage, I see our lower voltage mentioned as any of these: 110, 115, or 120. And I see our higher household voltage usually mentioned as either 220 or 240. (Never seen mention of 230v) When I was growing up (very younger years) in the Panama Canal Zone - I remember we had 25 cycle electricity. Not sure if it was 110v or something else. Then one day they had a truck come thru the neighborhood - and families could swap out their "cycles sensitive" devices - like clocks - for new ones that ran on 60 cycles. Strange, huh? Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jun 27, 2023 1:35 AM To: Subject: RE: New live center for my 200 We use 240volt 50 cycles but we call cycles Hertz Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 2:41 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: New live center for my 200 Bill, What juice (mains?) do you run in your house/shop? Do you have 110 and 220; or only 220 like in Europe? Many "home shops" in America add 220v AC/60 cycles if they didn't already have it before outfitting their shop. What cycle do you have - 50? Or 60 - like here in America? Thanks. Mac -Original Message- From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Jun 27, 2023 12:21 AM To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: RE: New live center for my 200 You need a gas generator curt like I have power outages I just start it up and keep on going Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 11:16 AM To: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> Subject: New live center for my 200 Hello and good evening everyone. Sunday's and Mondays are my weekends. But sadly, We had a storm Saturday evening, which caused a power outage for me, The power was restored appx. 6pm today. 3 hours in the shop form me over a weekend is NOT normal, And I was having withdrawal systems. (Yes people my Feet hurt! You see with out electricity the only way for me to spend my time at home is to walk our dog. We walked 10 miles today and even more yesterday.) ;-) OK (sorry guys, I don't mean to cry over spilled milk, so to speak... This weekend was Horrible! ) ;-p Today's shop time was meant to turn some bone blanks that I got ready for turning last weekend. I did one turning, which turned out pretty good, but after switching form machines I noticed that the dead center on my 200 was wearing badly. (Note: the 200 was meant to by turned by hand, the motor I use , is way more rotations then the dead center was meant to handle.) I found an old live center that I used on my pedal lathe, (see Bill web site. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpAz-xgLynU ) The live center has a 1/2-24 thread that holds it onto the MT-1 shaft. knowing this I removed it form its shaft and used a fine thread bolt to mount it onto my 200. It was a simple matter of drilling out the 3/8" hole that the old dead center used for its mountings and making it 1/2" then screwing the bolt onto and in the live center. Over all this weekend was not a total lost cause. A new toy and bonding time with our puppy. ;-) Have a good night everyone. talk to you all more latter. C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/69fe5eff-6ed5-fb1f-b6ec-faff21655e83%40earthlink.net.
RE: New live center for my 200
Bill, What juice (mains?) do you run in your house/shop? Do you have 110 and 220; or only 220 like in Europe? Many "home shops" in America add 220v AC/60 cycles if they didn't already have it before outfitting their shop. What cycle do you have - 50? Or 60 - like here in America? Thanks. Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jun 27, 2023 12:21 AM To: Subject: RE: New live center for my 200 You need a gas generator curt like I have power outages I just start it up and keep on going Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 11:16 AM To: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: New live center for my 200 Hello and good evening everyone. Sunday's and Mondays are my weekends. But sadly, We had a storm Saturday evening, which caused a power outage for me, The power was restored appx. 6pm today. 3 hours in the shop form me over a weekend is NOT normal, And I was having withdrawal systems. (Yes people my Feet hurt! You see with out electricity the only way for me to spend my time at home is to walk our dog. We walked 10 miles today and even more yesterday.) ;-) OK (sorry guys, I don't mean to cry over spilled milk, so to speak... This weekend was Horrible! ) ;-p Today's shop time was meant to turn some bone blanks that I got ready for turning last weekend. I did one turning, which turned out pretty good, but after switching form machines I noticed that the dead center on my 200 was wearing badly. (Note: the 200 was meant to by turned by hand, the motor I use , is way more rotations then the dead center was meant to handle.) I found an old live center that I used on my pedal lathe, (see Bill web site. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpAz-xgLynU ) The live center has a 1/2-24 thread that holds it onto the MT-1 shaft. knowing this I removed it form its shaft and used a fine thread bolt to mount it onto my 200. It was a simple matter of drilling out the 3/8" hole that the old dead center used for its mountings and making it 1/2" then screwing the bolt onto and in the live center. Over all this weekend was not a total lost cause. A new toy and bonding time with our puppy. ;-) Have a good night everyone. talk to you all more latter. C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1059378b-ed45-f0b4-47a2-4274a02414a7%40earthlink.net.
RE: wood lathe
Bill, It may be "... a bit far to ship." But it IS all downhill! LoL! Mac -Original Message- From: Sent: Jun 23, 2023 4:26 PM To: Subject: RE: wood lathe Thank you but the guy I’m researching this for is a fellow Australian so it’s a bit far to ship Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Owner Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 11:33 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: wood lathe Have been turning for 60 years there are more lathes manufactures and models out there than you can count, my advice is to buy the biggest and heaviest one you can’t afford or you’ll regret it. For me my go to lathe is a Powermatic 4224B could’d be happier as there's nothing it can’t turn big or small it also has a built in vacuum chuck system and indexing. Mass is critical if your turning anything bigger than spindles. Some fellow club members have reported issues with Laguna electronics as has the local Woodcraft that sells them. Have a Jet 1220 VS with stand I’m will to sell for a reasonable price with many accessories I used to take on the road for demos but I no longer do that. Michael Kratky On Jun 23, 2023, at 9:06 AM, Rick Hutley mailto:rghut...@gmail.com)> wrote: This also rates Laguna in the top picks: https://www.lathematters.com/best-wood-lathe/ Rick On Jun 23, 2023, at 09:05, Rick Hutley mailto:rghut...@gmail.com)> wrote: I’ve done wood lathe turning for a number of years - not on a Laguna I’m afraid. However, I can tell you that Laguna have a very good reputation. You might also look at the Powermatic lathes. Rick On Jun 23, 2023, at 07:07, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> wrote: I have a call turning friend that just bought a Laguna for a replacement lathe. He turns everyday and said it runs super smooth and really likes it. Not sure what model he has but could find out. I'm a Power Matic guy so can only attest to his opinion, and if he likes a tool its got to be pretty good. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 3:19 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote: Has anybody had any experience with a laguna wood lathe I am looking at different brands for a friend and laguna keeps coming up as a very good one looking for opinions Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/35c7c535-e995-7002-0324-795d35db07a1%40earthlink.net.
