RE: [LegacyUG] English counties

[ronald ferguson]

Heather,

Please clarify. I do hope you are not suggesting that Legacy should 
produce/include every change in a location throughout time and the world. I 
suspect that I might need a mainframe!


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> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:06:34 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] English counties
>
> Yes, I'm aware of making timelines for Chronological views, and have
> made a couple that were sent (by request) to Legacy. I have used it a
> lot.
>
> But my request has a lot more potential other than just showing the
> changes on a printout or screen (and only if the right one turned
> on...)
>
> Imagine entering in a new person, born in Etobicoke in 1843. You
> enter in the Birth information as 1843 Etobicoke, York, Ontario,
> Canada - and then a box comes up and says something like "According
> to the information you have previously entered, this location was
> Etobicoke, York, Canada West, British North America on the date 1843.
> Change location to match?" I hate always having to look up when a
> location changed.
>
> Also - this requested feature would allow the mapping to work, by
> using the current name for the mapping feature.
>
> Much more useful than just seeing it in a chronology.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 6:54 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
>  wrote:
>>
>> If you have the Deluxe edition, the Chronology view is
>> the place to do it. I have input the boundary changes
>> under a grouping for each state or province. Here is
>> an example of what I have done. I input the county
>> info for my family, but this quick work all happened
>> before birth.
>> Good luck
>> Rich in LA CA
>>
>> Life Range: 30 Jul 1849 - 14 Apr 1915
>> Age:-38
>> 1811 ~Wayne County, IN created from Dearborn, Clark
>> and St. Clair, succeeding Wayne County, NWT.:
>> -38
>> 1811 ~Franklin County IN created from Dearborn and
>> Clark.: -36
>> 1813 ~Madison County IN created from Delaware New
>> Purchase.: -35
>> 1814 ~Switzerland County IN created from Dearborn and
>> Jefferson.: -33
>> 1816 ~Indiana becomes a state.:
>> 30 Jul 1849 Birth: United States, Indiana, Shelby
>> County.
>> You will find many uses for this tool.
>> Rich in LA CA
>>
>>
>> --- Heather Stovold  wrote:
>>
>>> A suggestion I put in (during but near the end of
>>> V6) would address
>>> this I'd like to be able to setup a customized
>>> timeline of place
>>> locations. This would be something that the
>>> genealogist would do for
>>> locations, not a database that would be done by a
>>> company Basically
>>> for a location, you could setup start and end dates
>>> for a name, including
>>> the current name
>>>
>>> So - for my all favorite location (ok, the main
>>> place I'm doing research
>>> right now...)
>>>
>>> 1791-1841 Etobicoke, York, Upper
>>> Canada, British North
>>> America
>>> 1841-1 Jul 1867 Etobicoke, York, Canada
>>> West, British North America
>>> 1 Jul 1867 - Present Etobicoke, York, Ontario,
>>> Canada
>>>
>>> What I suggested, is with that info, if I used the
>>> place with a date, it
>>> could (with my permission?) correct the name if I
>>> put in the wrong one...
>>> it might be fun logic - but would be very helpful!
>>>
>>> With mapping, it could put in the current place name
>>> for the search
>>>

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RE: [LegacyUG] Drag and drop - Legacy 7

[ronald ferguson]

Beth,

The answer to this is a sort of "No"! Is the person a new partner? If so they 
will not show until linked. Clicking on the name of the person in the Index 
will then show the person in Family View and you need to link.

If the circustances are different please explain exactly the relationship (if 
any) between the import and the original.


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> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:44:35 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Drag and drop - Legacy 7
>
> I have not used this feature before ever. But in reading the help
> section and manual after I have two different family files open in split
> view; I then drag and drop one male person to the box that I want him to
> be in. However the box is still empty. He is however now in the index of
> the family file. Is this the way it is supposed to work?
>
> Beth G.
> Auburn, Alabama
>

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RE: [LegacyUG] English Counties

[ronald ferguson]

Art,

In your email program there should be a "plain text" setting somewhere. In msn 
eg. its below the subject bar in Outlook Express in the Formay Tab at the top 
of the Create Email Screen.


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] English Counties
> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:10:02 -0700
>
> OK Mike,
>
> I may be 80, but I'm not too old to learn. No more hit reply. To include
> your text I cut and paste, so now I know that this e:mail is clean.
> Obviously, with all of the small font, color text, etc., etc., there is a
> ton of HTML on the list, but I try to not add to it.
>
> No offense taken.
>
> Art Seddon
>
> Mike Fry wrote:
>
> Ah ha! That's also why your 'Start of thread' message is linked as part
> of the 'AKA Order' thread. You replied to an existing thread and just
> changed the title - that *doesn't* begin a new thread. If I wasn't
> interested in the 'AKA Order' thread and deleted it, then this sequence
> of messages wouldn't have been seen because they would have been deleted
> as part of that thread. No wonder some threads become so convoluted and
> go through so many incarnations of subject matter :-)
>
> Not really having a go at you Art. You're one of many who operate in
> this way and irritate the hell out of me because proper threading, as
> opposed to sorting by subject, gets mucked up.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg.
>
>

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RE: [LegacyUG] Date Calculator

[ronald ferguson]

Go on, Rich he'd probably had a few pints may even a 2 day session!


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> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:40:27 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Date Calculator
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> I have a church record that the priest had done
> baptisms on February 30, then the next day was March
> 1. He obviously thought the whole day that year had
> extra days in February. So if he ever found his
> mistake, he did not tell anyone?
> Rich in LA CA
> --- Georgia  wrote:
>
>> At 07:39 PM 6/25/2008, you wrote:
>>>True except if the year is divisible by 400 it is a
>> leap year, as was 2000.
>>
>> Sorry, I failed to give all the pertinent
>> information. The year was
>> 1882, clearly not divisible by 4. So, Legacy is
>> correct in not
>> recognizing it and I guess the transcriber made an
>> error. (These are
>> Probate Court Death Records). I wonder if it was
>> February 20 or 19 or ???
>>
>>
>> G E O R G I A C H U N
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Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also on the one posted next.

[Dave Berdan]

This has been fixed.  We will be doing a new build on Monday or Tuesday...

Thanks,
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Subject: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also on 
the one posted next.





24 Jun 2008 I posted a leaflet "Walking Tour of Nyssa, Oregon"
The source detail was building 5.
I did not use the SourceWriter.
I posted this to one person, George.

25 Jun 2008 I posted  a Certificate of Baptism
Nothing was entered in the source detail.
I used the SourceWriter.
I posted this to three people, Ernest, Ernesta & Irene.

To my horror the source detail for "Walking Tour of Nyssa, Oregon" also 
appears for the three people I posted the Certificate of Baptism to.


I will have to go back & check every source entry since receiving version 
7.


I would appreciate thoughts on what I am doing wrong.

Thank you,
Ann
New Mexico, USA



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Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also on the one posted next.

[Simon Dick]

You shouldn't have given a time frame ;)

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Dave Berdan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This has been fixed.  We will be doing a new build on Monday or Tuesday...
>
> Thanks,
> --
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> Millennia
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>
> - Original Message - From: "Ann Parsons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "LegacyUserGroup" 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 3:12 PM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also on
> the one posted next.
>
>
>>
>> 24 Jun 2008 I posted a leaflet "Walking Tour of Nyssa, Oregon"
>> The source detail was building 5.
>> I did not use the SourceWriter.
>> I posted this to one person, George.
>>
>> 25 Jun 2008 I posted  a Certificate of Baptism
>> Nothing was entered in the source detail.
>> I used the SourceWriter.
>> I posted this to three people, Ernest, Ernesta & Irene.
>>
>> To my horror the source detail for "Walking Tour of Nyssa, Oregon" also
>> appears for the three people I posted the Certificate of Baptism to.
>>
>> I will have to go back & check every source entry since receiving version
>> 7.
>>
>> I would appreciate thoughts on what I am doing wrong.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Ann
>> New Mexico, USA
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] English counties - Starting a new thread

[Mike Fry]

Kris Strotman wrote:

I'm afraid I'm guilty of doing this.  PLEASE tell us 
how to start a new thread!!  I have looked several times 
but can't figure it out.  (I've only posted twice, but 
had to piggyback off someone else's message to do it.)


It all rather depends on what piece of software you're using to read and 
write your mail. Me, I use Thunderbird which downloads my mail from my 
ISP. I see a lot of people are using web-based mail readers, probably at 
Google, Yahoo! and others including their own ISP offerings. My ISP also 
offers a web-based mail service that runs within my browser (Firefox).


On my Thunderbird toolbar (and in the menus) I have two (three in 
reality but we'll forget about the 3rd one for now) options for writing 
emails: one, labelled 'Write' and a second labelled 'Reply'. The use of 
these should be fairly obvious :-) 'Write' means write a *new* message, 
whilst 'Reply' means reply to the message that I'm currently reading.


I don't have an account with Yahoo!, so can't comment on what they 
provide in the way of web-based mail. But, I do have a Google account 
and have used their web-based mail system - before I found out how to 
read the mail with Thunderbird.


To the best of my knowledge, in the top left corner of the Google mail 
screen (under the Google logo) is a 'Compose' button. This starts a new 
mail message that is unrelated to anything you might have been reading. 
When you read a message on Google mail, it appears in a form of its' own 
and in the top-right corner of that form is a button labelled 'Reply'. 
That should continue the thread that you're currently reading.


By the way, Google provides a way whereby I can use Thunderbird to read 
mail sent to my gmail.com address. It's simply a POP gateway along with 
necessary information to configure Thunderbird. I'm pretty certain even 
though I've never used Yahoo! or Hotmail, that they must offer something 
similar. In this way, all my mail comes into Thunderbird from every 
email address that I have.


Feel free to write to me off-list if you need help with setting your 
email reader up and using it.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[Jenny M Benson]

John S. Adams wrote
I don't usually bother with street addresses, but for Birth, Marriage, 
Death, Baptism, Burial, I also enter the name of the 
hospital, cemetery, church, etc. in the address field accessed by the 
"+" sign.  The only problem I have with it is that when you include the 
address on a report, it shows up following the event as "Address:  
Riverside Cemetery."  The "Address:" lead-in annoys me, but I'll live 
with it.


It doesn't appear that way on all reports - only the "boxed" ones like 
Individual.  On the others you just get the address in brackets and if 
you enter the address with privacy brackets round the "location" parts 
you don't get repetition.


I'm quite happy with that.  It's like saying to someone "I was born in 
Birkenhead - 18 Devonshire Place to be precise.)

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RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also on the one posted next.

[Evert van Dijken]

Does this source detail still show if you clear the source clipboard? I seem to 
remember there was a problem with the source clipboard (is fixed in beta now).
What I saw in my family file was that it only seemed as if these details were 
attached (they changed if I copied another source to the clipboard and they 
didn't print in reports). So I think you better wait for the next build before 
you start checking all your source details.
To check this you just have to clear the source clipboard and see if the wrong 
details have gone.
Evert
 



> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com> Subject: 
> [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also on the one 
> posted next.> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:12:00 -0600> > > 24 Jun 2008 I posted 
> a leaflet "Walking Tour of Nyssa, Oregon"> The source detail was building 5.> 
> I did not use the SourceWriter.> I posted this to one person, George.> > 25 
> Jun 2008 I posted a Certificate of Baptism> Nothing was entered in the source 
> detail.> I used the SourceWriter.> I posted this to three people, Ernest, 
> Ernesta & Irene.> > To my horror the source detail for "Walking Tour of 
> Nyssa, Oregon" also > appears for the three people I posted the Certificate 
> of Baptism to.> > I will have to go back & check every source entry since 
> receiving version 7.> > I would appreciate thoughts on what I am doing 
> wrong.> > Thank you,> Ann> New Mexico, USA > > > > > Legacy User Group 
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RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also on the one posted next.

[Steve]

He didn't say which Monday or Tuesday and there is still lots of Mondays &
Tuesdays left in this year (;-)

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Dick
Sent: Thursday, 26 June 2008 6:54 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also
on the one posted next.

You shouldn't have given a time frame ;)

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Dave Berdan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This has been fixed.  We will be doing a new build on Monday or Tuesday...
>
> Thanks,
> --
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> Millennia
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>
> - Original Message - From: "Ann Parsons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "LegacyUserGroup" 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 3:12 PM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also on
> the one posted next.
>
>
>>
>> 24 Jun 2008 I posted a leaflet "Walking Tour of Nyssa, Oregon"
>> The source detail was building 5.
>> I did not use the SourceWriter.
>> I posted this to one person, George.
>>
>> 25 Jun 2008 I posted  a Certificate of Baptism
>> Nothing was entered in the source detail.
>> I used the SourceWriter.
>> I posted this to three people, Ernest, Ernesta & Irene.
>>
>> To my horror the source detail for "Walking Tour of Nyssa, Oregon" also
>> appears for the three people I posted the Certificate of Baptism to.
>>
>> I will have to go back & check every source entry since receiving version
>> 7.
>>
>> I would appreciate thoughts on what I am doing wrong.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Ann
>> New Mexico, USA
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Drag and drop - Legacy 7

[Jenny M Benson]

Beth Gay wrote
But in reading the help section and manual after I have two different 
family files open in split view; I then drag and drop one male person 
to the box that I want him to be in. However the box is still empty. He 
is however now in the index of the family file. Is this the way it is 
supposed to work?


If you are dragging someone who is husband to a woman already in your 
file, are you expecting him to drop into the correct husband position? 
He won't do that because Legacy doesn't know that he is that woman's 
husband, until you tell it so.


When you have done the drag and drop, click in the empty "name" area of 
the husband's side of the screen and then click "Link to an existing 
person."  Now find the newly imported man in the Name List and click on 
"Select" and he will then drop into the place where you want him.

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RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also on the one posted next.

[Evert van Dijken]

Sorry, just saw others had allready answered, and sorry for the html (using 
hotmail and it's not easy to change to text only, have to switch to the light 
version of windows live hotmail every time I want to sent text only mail and 
loose a lot of other options so cannot use the light version all the time).
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To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also on 
the one posted next.
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:24:45 +0200




Does this source detail still show if you clear the source clipboard? I seem to 
remember there was a problem with the source clipboard (is fixed in beta now).
What I saw in my family file was that it only seemed as if these details were 
attached (they changed if I copied another source to the clipboard and they 
didn't print in reports). So I think you better wait for the next build before 
you start checking all your source details.
To check this you just have to clear the source clipboard and see if the wrong 
details have gone.
Evert









> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also on the 
> one posted next.
> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:12:00 -0600
>
>
> 24 Jun 2008 I posted a leaflet "Walking Tour of Nyssa, Oregon"
> The source detail was building 5.
> I did not use the SourceWriter.
> I posted this to one person, George.
>
> 25 Jun 2008 I posted a Certificate of Baptism
> Nothing was entered in the source detail.
> I used the SourceWriter.
> I posted this to three people, Ernest, Ernesta & Irene.
>
> To my horror the source detail for "Walking Tour of Nyssa, Oregon" also
> appears for the three people I posted the Certificate of Baptism to.
>
> I will have to go back & check every source entry since receiving version 7.
>
> I would appreciate thoughts on what I am doing wrong.
>
> Thank you,
> Ann
> New Mexico, USA
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Re: [LegacyUG] Drag and drop - Legacy 7

[Beth Gay]

Ron,

Thanks. The person is a new individual and the relationship was father 
to an existing person in the file. I will attempt again and establish 
the link.


Beth G.
Auburn, AL

ronald ferguson wrote:

Beth,

The answer to this is a sort of "No"! Is the person a new partner? If so they 
will not show until linked. Clicking on the name of the person in the Index will then 
show the person in Family View and you need to link.

If the circustances are different please explain exactly the relationship (if 
any) between the import and the original.

Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:44:35 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Drag and drop - Legacy 7

I have not used this feature before ever. But in reading the help
section and manual after I have two different family files open in split
view; I then drag and drop one male person to the box that I want him to
be in. However the box is still empty. He is however now in the index of
the family file. Is this the way it is supposed to work?

Beth G.
Auburn, Alabama

  


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[LegacyUG] definition of [[ in help files

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It has been mentioned here that the use of double brackets [[ text ]] means
the enclosed text is private but I have not found that defined in the Legacy
help files.  Where can I find more information of how Legacy uses the [[ and
what it does with text enclosed in such double brackets?

Thank you.

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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA order

[Alan Eade]

Hello Georgia

I could not replicate what you are telling me.

<>

In family view the order WILL display [[1]], [[2]], [[3]], etc - 

I have tried it with V7.0.0.41 Deluxe and V5.0.0.261 Deluxe.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Drag and drop - Legacy 7

[Beth Gay]

Hi Jenny,

Thanks, I was expecting Legacy to know that the new person was the 
father of an existing person; otherwise why would I drag and drop him to 
that box?  I will establish the link or check and see if I have 
another program that automatically establishes the link.


Thanks,
Beth G.
Auburn, AL

Jenny M Benson wrote:


Beth Gay wrote
But in reading the help section and manual after I have two different 
family files open in split view; I then drag and drop one male person 
to the box that I want him to be in. However the box is still empty. 
He is however now in the index of the family file. Is this the way it 
is supposed to work?


If you are dragging someone who is husband to a woman already in your 
file, are you expecting him to drop into the correct husband position? 
He won't do that because Legacy doesn't know that he is that woman's 
husband, until you tell it so.


When you have done the drag and drop, click in the empty "name" area 
of the husband's side of the screen and then click "Link to an 
existing person."  Now find the newly imported man in the Name List 
and click on "Select" and he will then drop into the place where you 
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Re: [LegacyUG] definition of [[ in help files

[Dermot McGlone]

Jeff,

Under Private, Notes in the (V7) Help system, I found the following:

Private Notes

Legacy has the ability to mark portions of your notes as Private. When
you are editing notes you can add two opening brackets [[to start the
marking of private notes that you do not want to be printed, or
exported. At the end of the private notes you add two closing
brackets]] and everything following the closing brackets becomes
public notes again. You can also just use the two opening brackets [[
and everything to the end of the note becomes private if there are no
closing brackets. Legacy options to print and export private notes. By
default, Legacy always turns off private notes and you will have to
turn them back on each time you export or print a report.  This
feature is part of all note fields including general notes, medical
notes, research notes, marriage notes, event notes, picture notes,
source description, and comments.


Regards,

Dermot.

2008/6/26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> It has been mentioned here that the use of double brackets [[ text ]] means
> the enclosed text is private but I have not found that defined in the Legacy
> help files.  Where can I find more information of how Legacy uses the [[ and
> what it does with text enclosed in such double brackets?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Date Calculator

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I was only reporting an unresolvable error, not
judging his lifestyle, or sobriety.
Rich in LA CA
--- ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Go on, Rich he'd probably had a few pints may even a
> 2 day session!
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> > Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:40:27 -0700
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Date Calculator
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >
> > I have a church record that the priest had done
> > baptisms on February 30, then the next day was
> March
> > 1. He obviously thought the whole day that year
> had
> > extra days in February. So if he ever found his
> > mistake, he did not tell anyone?
> > Rich in LA CA
> > --- Georgia  wrote:
> >
> >> At 07:39 PM 6/25/2008, you wrote:
> >>>True except if the year is divisible by 400 it is
> a
> >> leap year, as was 2000.
> >>
> >> Sorry, I failed to give all the pertinent
> >> information. The year was
> >> 1882, clearly not divisible by 4. So, Legacy is
> >> correct in not
> >> recognizing it and I guess the transcriber made
> an
> >> error. (These are
> >> Probate Court Death Records). I wonder if it was
> >> February 20 or 19 or ???
> >>
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[LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also on the one posted next.

[Ann Parsons]

Thank you Connie, Tom, Ron, Kiersten, Dave & Evert for taking the time to 
give me your thoughts. I appreciate it.

Clearing the clipboard is a good idea. I tried this, there was nothing on 
the clipboard.

I turned off the computer last evening. This morning I see that the detail 
is still there, yet when I click on edit detail there is nothing to delete.

I did a preview of individual report. It seems ok, I don't see the detail 
Building 5 from  "Walking Tour of Nyssa" in the preview.

This morning in the Assigned Sources screen I clicked on edit detail added 
two periods [..]saved and the two periods were in the detail column, 
Building 5 is gone. I again went to edit detail, deleted the two periods and 
saved.

TA DA! the detail column is now blank. I think I will delay using the 
SourceWriter until Dave gets this problem fixed. What a great outfit 
Millennia is, the President of the Corporation responds.

Best Regards,
Ann
New Mexico, USA



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From: "Evert van Dijken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:24 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also 
on the one posted next.


Does this source detail still show if you clear the source clipboard? I seem 
to remember there was a problem with the source clipboard (is fixed in beta 
now).
What I saw in my family file was that it only seemed as if these details 
were attached (they changed if I copied another source to the clipboard and 
they didn't print in reports). So I think you better wait for the next build 
before you start checking all your source details.
To check this you just have to clear the source clipboard and see if the 
wrong details have gone.
Evert




> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com> 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also on 
> the one posted next.> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:12:00 -0600> > > 24 Jun 
> 2008 I posted a leaflet "Walking Tour of Nyssa, Oregon"> The source detail 
> was building 5.> I did not use the SourceWriter.> I posted this to one 
> person, George.> > 25 Jun 2008 I posted a Certificate of Baptism> Nothing 
> was entered in the source detail.> I used the SourceWriter.> I posted this 
> to three people, Ernest, Ernesta & Irene.> > To my horror the source 
> detail for "Walking Tour of Nyssa, Oregon" also > appears for the three 
> people I posted the Certificate of Baptism to.> > I will have to go back & 
> check every source entry since receiving version 7.> > I would appreciate 
> thoughts on what I am doing wrong.> > Thank you,> Ann> New Mexico, USA > > 
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RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also on the one posted next.

[Connie]

Thanks so much Dave!

Connie

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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also
on the one posted next.

This has been fixed.  We will be doing a new build on Monday or Tuesday...

Thanks,
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[LegacyUG] Dealing with unknown names

[La Nell Shores]

>From the amount of chatter on this subject, there must be a bunch of us who
use , [--?--], or some other form of notation to indicate
"Unknown" names.  If we all would submit a "suggest a new feature" to
support, indicating that we would like to be able to turn off the
standardization warnings individually, maybe they would hear us and fix it
to our liking.

I just submitted one.  The rest is up to you.  I use [--?--] and intend to
continue using that form. It's a personal choice and it seems to be a
standard form in genealogy. 

Reasoning:  If Aunt So-and-so married James, and I leave it blank, how do I
know if it is James SOMEBODY or Somebody JAMES?  Many of our names could be
used as a first name or a surname, and we need some way of indicating which
it is. 

I know it messes up the report that inserts underlines for missing data,
however it definitely looks better in regular descendant or ancestor reports
to have some way of indicating which name is missing and I use those reports
many times over more frequently than the insert underlines for missing data
report.

Just my thoughts on this subject.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[Bill]

I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California. 
That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy minus USA


--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
> Hi Jane,
> 
> I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
> fields, such as:
> Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
> California, USA



  



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Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also on the one posted next.

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sounds like "it depends what you mean by is - erh, I meant to say Monday"


Steve wrote:

He didn't say which Monday or Tuesday and there is still lots of
Mondays & Tuesdays left in this year (;-)

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Simon Dick Sent: Thursday, 26 June 2008 6:54 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is
also on the one posted next.

You shouldn't have given a time frame ;)

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Dave Berdan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This has been fixed.  We will be doing a new build on Monday or
Tuesday... 


Thanks,
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Millennia
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- Original Message - From: "Ann Parsons"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "LegacyUserGroup"
 
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 3:12 PM

Subject: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is
also on the one posted next.




24 Jun 2008 I posted a leaflet "Walking Tour of Nyssa, Oregon"
The source detail was building 5.
I did not use the SourceWriter.
I posted this to one person, George.

25 Jun 2008 I posted  a Certificate of Baptism
Nothing was entered in the source detail.
I used the SourceWriter.
I posted this to three people, Ernest, Ernesta & Irene.

To my horror the source detail for "Walking Tour of Nyssa, Oregon"
also appears for the three people I posted the Certificate of
Baptism to. 


I will have to go back & check every source entry since receiving
version 7.

I would appreciate thoughts on what I am doing wrong.

Thank you,
Ann
New Mexico, USA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[Thomas Herson]

I just don't understand why you would leave out the country and I don't 
understand why you don't just use the address option for the specific 
cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name). The program provides 
for these things. Why not make use of them?


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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions



I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy minus USA


--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


From: Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
Hi Jane,

I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
fields, such as:
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
California, USA








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Re: [LegacyUG] definition of [[ in help files

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Thank you.  I could not find it till you pointed it out to me.

Appreciate it.

Jeff

Dermot McGlone wrote:

Jeff,

Under Private, Notes in the (V7) Help system, I found the following:

Private Notes

Legacy has the ability to mark portions of your notes as Private. When
you are editing notes you can add two opening brackets [[to start the
marking of private notes that you do not want to be printed, or
exported. At the end of the private notes you add two closing
brackets]] and everything following the closing brackets becomes
public notes again. You can also just use the two opening brackets [[
and everything to the end of the note becomes private if there are no
closing brackets. Legacy options to print and export private notes. By
default, Legacy always turns off private notes and you will have to
turn them back on each time you export or print a report.  This
feature is part of all note fields including general notes, medical
notes, research notes, marriage notes, event notes, picture notes,
source description, and comments.


Regards,

Dermot.

2008/6/26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


It has been mentioned here that the use of double brackets [[ text
]] means 
the enclosed text is private but I have not found that defined in
the Legacy 
help files.  Where can I find more information of how Legacy uses
the [[ and 
what it does with text enclosed in such double brackets?


Thank you.

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[LegacyUG] Pruning a branch from the tree (permanently)

[Jim Temple]

Hello All,

I have a family file that has a family branch that I want to remove: to
include all references in the name index. 

When I delete the individual at the start of the branch I want removed, the
individual is removed.  However, his ancestors remain in the name index. To
remove the individual and ALL his ancestors does not seem possible without
removing each branch individual individually.

I have researched and searched the archives and I can't find a method to
remove the branch in one fell chop.

Is there a way to point to an individual and command the program to remove
him and all of his branch in one procedure??

Thanks for any help the group can give this new user.

Sincerely,

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Re: [LegacyUG] Dealing with unknown names

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Totally agree with you. I know of the search for missing data, but I've 
never used the report that "inserts underlines" for missing data.  Where is 
that one?


Jeff

La Nell Shores wrote:

From the amount of chatter on this subject, there must be a bunch of
us who use , [--?--], or some other form of notation to
indicate "Unknown" names.  If we all would submit a "suggest a new
feature" to support, indicating that we would like to be able to turn
off the standardization warnings individually, maybe they would hear
us and fix it to our liking.

I just submitted one.  The rest is up to you.  I use [--?--] and
intend to continue using that form. It's a personal choice and it
seems to be a standard form in genealogy.

Reasoning:  If Aunt So-and-so married James, and I leave it blank,
how do I know if it is James SOMEBODY or Somebody JAMES?  Many of our
names could be used as a first name or a surname, and we need some
way of indicating which it is.

I know it messes up the report that inserts underlines for missing
data, however it definitely looks better in regular descendant or
ancestor reports to have some way of indicating which name is missing
and I use those reports many times over more frequently than the
insert underlines for missing data report.

Just my thoughts on this subject.

La Nell







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[LegacyUG] preview

[Randolph Clark]

When I have selected print sources and pictures the Individual Report
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Re: [LegacyUG] Dealing with unknown names

[Mary Fowler Leek]

This is what I now enter for my unknowns (_). Please see example at 
end of message. It will lose a bit of formatting because of sending this 
message 
as plain text but you can get the idea.

I used to enter just a __ but noticed, with Legacy 7, my entered 
underlines don't carry into the reports like they did in v6, so I've begun 
using the ( ) . In Legacy 7, it just prints out as (   ), but 
with the  (  ), it still serves my purpose. I don't care to print underlines 
for all missing information, just the names. I am always surprised at how 
the blank area draws the eye of the reader and seems to encourage them to 
want to 'help' by offering the name, if known.

It's nice Legacy allows us to use different options.

Mary


Known children were:

  +   2   F i.Helen Mae Simpson was born on 1 Jul 1901 
in Jackson, Teton County, Wyoming, died on 16 May 1958 in Anchorage, 
Territory of Alaska at age 56, and was buried in Palmer (Palmer Cemetery), 
Territory of Alaska.

  +   3   Fii.(_) M. Simpson was born about 1908 in 
Wyoming.


  +   4   F   iii.Eula E. Simpson was born on 10 May 1910 in 
Jackson, Wyoming, died on 13 Jul 1956 in Seward, Territory of Alaska at age 
46, and was buried in Anchorage (Anchorage City Cemetery), Territory of 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

What is the advantage of using the address option rather than just naming 
the cemetery itself in the Burial field?


Jeff

Thomas Herson wrote:

I just don't understand why you would leave out the country and I
don't understand why you don't just use the address option for the
specific cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name). The
program provides for these things. Why not make use of them?

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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions



I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy
minus USA --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


From: Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
Hi Jane,

I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
fields, such as:
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
California, USA








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RE: [LegacyUG] preview

[Connie]

Hi Randolph,
Not sure why... works fine for me...
Connie 

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When I have selected print sources and pictures the Individual Report
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RE: [LegacyUG] preview

[ronald ferguson]

You could try File>File Maintenance/Check Repair but I think you will need to 
delete Legacy\Indiv.usr


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> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:10:30 -0400
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> Subject: [LegacyUG] preview
>
> When I have selected print sources and pictures the Individual Report
> preview will not display.
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RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also on the one posted next.

[Kirsten Bowman]

Hooray!  Thank you, Dave.

Kirsten

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also on the one posted next.


This has been fixed.  We will be doing a new build on Monday or Tuesday...

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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 3:12 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] V7 Source detail for prior document posted is also on 
the one posted next.


>
> 24 Jun 2008 I posted a leaflet "Walking Tour of Nyssa, Oregon"
> The source detail was building 5.
> I did not use the SourceWriter.
> I posted this to one person, George.
>
> 25 Jun 2008 I posted  a Certificate of Baptism
> Nothing was entered in the source detail.
> I used the SourceWriter.
> I posted this to three people, Ernest, Ernesta & Irene.
>
> To my horror the source detail for "Walking Tour of Nyssa, Oregon" also 
> appears for the three people I posted the Certificate of Baptism to.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I joined this thread late so please forgive me as I try to understand. 
Entering cemeteries has been a dilmma for me too.


Are you saying that in the individual information screen's field for "in" 
(as in "buried in") you enter "Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los 
Angeles, California"?


I thought that Legacy recommends entering "Chatsworth, Los Angeles, 
California" in that field and then entering "Oakwood Memorial Cemetery" in 
the filed "burial address" in the screen that opens up when you click on 
"+".


I personally prefer your method which I do use even though it does add many 
cemetery and similar non-town names to the master location list. I find the 
burial address screen somewhat redundent or overkill.


Jeff

Bill wrote:

I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy minus
USA


--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


From: Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
Hi Jane,

I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
fields, such as:
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
California, USA








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RE: [LegacyUG] Obits?

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Michele,

You have selected the correct template, as the actual source you are
consulting is the newspaper. Most obits make no reference of the author, so
yes, just leave the author fields blank. The templates are flexible enough
that you can leave a field blank if you wish, and the formatting should
usually still work out fine.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:19 AM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Obits?

I am trying to do an obit using the sourcewriter but there is no option for 
obituary.  When I do the newspaper option it asks for an author and stuff 
that isn't relevant.  Are we supposed to use the newspaper option and just 
leave all the other stuff blank?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Pruning a branch from the tree (permanently)

[Dermot McGlone]

Jim,

Not knowing how the "branch" of your tree are related to each other, I
can't be specific, but if there is one common ancestor for all of
them, you could tag him/her and all their ancestors with an unused
tag, then advanced delete all with that tag.

Regards,

Dermot.

2008/6/26 Jim Temple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello All,
>
> I have a family file that has a family branch that I want to remove: to
> include all references in the name index.
>
> When I delete the individual at the start of the branch I want removed, the
> individual is removed.  However, his ancestors remain in the name index. To
> remove the individual and ALL his ancestors does not seem possible without
> removing each branch individual individually.
>
> I have researched and searched the archives and I can't find a method to
> remove the branch in one fell chop.
>
> Is there a way to point to an individual and command the program to remove
> him and all of his branch in one procedure??
>
> Thanks for any help the group can give this new user.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jim Temple
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:53:03 -0400, "Thomas Herson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I just don't understand why you would leave out the country

... because I know that in my database, if a country isn't specified,
that it is a U.S. location.

> and I don't 
>understand why you don't just use the address option for the specific 
>cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name).

... because I don't like the way it looks in reports.

> The program provides 
>for these things. Why not make use of them?

Just because a feature is there doesn't mean you have to use it.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Dealing with unknown names

[Dermot McGlone]

Jeff,

If you create, for example, an ancestor book report (Reports>All
reports (Books and others)...>Ancestors), on the "Options" tab, you
can choose to Insert Underlines for Missing "Given and Surnames",
"Dates and places" and "Death information for individuals marked as
Living".

These options are probably most often used when creating a report for
someone else who may be able to fill in the information for you.

Regards,

Dermot.

2008/6/26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  the report that "inserts underlines" for missing data.  Where is
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Re: [LegacyUG] Obits?

[Beth Gay]

Hi Michele,

Enter obituary in the search screen and you will have several options.

Best,
Beth G.

Michele Lewis wrote:
I am trying to do an obit using the sourcewriter but there is no 
option for obituary.  When I do the newspaper option it asks for an 
author and stuff that isn't relevant.  Are we supposed to use the 
newspaper option and just leave all the other stuff blank?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[Thomas Herson]

The location (including burial) field is intended for city/town/village, 
county, state, country.


The address field is used to identify more specific locations within a 
location, such as names of cemeteries, hospitals, etc.


Placing address items within the location field (with or without a comma) 
greatly increases the number of locations that the program has to keep track 
of.


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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:43 AM
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What is the advantage of using the address option rather than just naming 
the cemetery itself in the Burial field?


Jeff

Thomas Herson wrote:

I just don't understand why you would leave out the country and I
don't understand why you don't just use the address option for the
specific cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name). The
program provides for these things. Why not make use of them?

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions



I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy
minus USA --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


From: Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
Hi Jane,

I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
fields, such as:
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
California, USA








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Re: [LegacyUG] HTML vs p;ain text.

[Art Seddon]

ronald ferguson wrote:

Art,

In your email program there should be a "plain text" setting somewhere. In 
msn eg. its below the subject bar in Outlook Express in the Formay Tab at 
the top of the Create Email Screen.

Ron Ferguson

Yep, Ron I know, but I send more HTML than I do plain text, so it's simpler 
to just verify format on e:mail lists. My error was thinking having the 
e:mail address checked plain text would overrule the reply to sender's 
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[LegacyUG] Personal E-mail Master Source Template (lumping vs. splitting)

[Gail Nestor]

Hi Geoff, I agree with others that it would be nice to have the option
to enter the sender, recipient, and subject matter information within
the source detail rather than in the master source.  I would much
rather lump all e-mails under a single master source like "Nestor
Research Files" rather than having a separate source for each note I
receive.

I realize that I can type the details into the Text/Comments field of
the Source Detail screen to sort of get around this, but then I lose
the order of the components.  Maybe we could provide a button on the
master source screen that would allow the user to access the same
template at the source detail level instead of the master source
level.

Also, I noticed there is an extra comma right after e-address as
follows: (E-ADDRESS), & STREET ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE,] in the
output.  I'm going to wait on converting these sources for now.  It
sounds like others would find this useful as well.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Dealing with unknown names

[ronald ferguson]

Mary,

In which reports are the lines not showing up? They are OK in mine - I have 
only looked at the Preview though, so is it something that happens on printing 
etc. (You can tell I prefer not to use them!)


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dealing with unknown names
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:45:04 -0500







This is what I now enter for my unknowns (_). Please see example at
end of message. It will lose a bit of formatting because of sending this message

as plain text but you can get the idea.

I used to enter just a __ but noticed, with Legacy 7, my entered
underlines don't carry into the reports like they did in v6, so I've begun
using the ( ) . In Legacy 7, it just prints out as (   ), but
with the  (  ), it still serves my purpose. I don't care to print underlines
for all missing information, just the names. I am always surprised at how
the blank area draws the eye of the reader and seems to encourage them to
want to 'help' by offering the name, if known.

It's nice Legacy allows us to use different options.

Mary


Known children were:

  +   2   F i.Helen Mae Simpson was born on 1 Jul 1901
in Jackson, Teton County, Wyoming, died on 16 May 1958 in Anchorage,
Territory of Alaska at age 56, and was buried in Palmer (Palmer Cemetery),
Territory of Alaska.

  +   3   Fii.(_) M. Simpson was born about 1908 in
Wyoming.


  +   4   F   iii.Eula E. Simpson was born on 10 May 1910 in
Jackson, Wyoming, died on 13 Jul 1956 in Seward, Territory of Alaska at age
46, and was buried in Anchorage (Anchorage City Cemetery), Territory of
Alaska.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[Bill]

--- On Thu, 6/26/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 10:17 AM
> I joined this thread late so please forgive me as I try to
> understand. 
> Entering cemeteries has been a dilmma for me too.
> 
> Are you saying that in the individual information
> screen's field for "in" 
> (as in "buried in") you enter "Oakwood
> Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los 
> Angeles, California"?
> 

Yes! I like to see where people were buried on the individual info screen, and 
this is a trade off from going into the burial address screen. This will give 
me a few more locations in the master location list, and this has not caused 
any problems with reports so far as I know.

Bill


  



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RE: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[ronald ferguson]

Ruth,

but they will know if one puts it in the location field


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> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:43:17 -0500
>
>> and I don't
>>understand why you don't just use the address option for the specific
>>cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name).
>
>>... because I don't like the way it looks in reports.
>
> But not everyone knows where cemetaries are located and in years to come,
> when future generations read the results of your research, maybe they won't
> know where the cemetaries are. I think more information is better than less.
>
> Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
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[LegacyUG] Gedstar Pro 3.2 and Legacy 7 -- problems with conversion

[Kathy Wallace]

Any Gedstar Pro users who have upgraded to Legacy 7?  To complicate matters
I also changed computers and the new one is running Vista.

 

Legacy 7 is running fine so far on Vista.  I moved my Palm Pilot application
over to the new machine and have updated my Legacy file a lot lately so
decided to put Gedstar Pro on.  I'd bought Gedstar 3.1 and had used that
successfully with Legacy 6 on Windows XP.  When I went to download the
software I found that version 3.2 is available so downloaded that.  It
installed ok - on computer and Palm Pilot.  I exported my data file to a
gedcom file and proceeded to convert the file to Gedstar Pro format.  I got
an error message:

 

Line found in Gedcom without a level #

File TCGedparse.cpp  line 183.

 

I've messaged the software vendor but haven't had a response.  I don't know
if the problem is with my data file, the Gedstar software or if it is some
Vista incompatibility.  I can say that I seem to have been able to export
the same gedcom file to my old computer - still running Legacy 6.   I really
miss not having my data file on my Palm Pilot - and it has just been 24 hrs.
Suggestions appreciated.

 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Pruning a branch from the tree (permanently)

[Jim Temple]

Hey Everyone,

I found the "advanced" instructions for tagging and deleting.  Everything
came out just like I wanted.

Hope this message gets to the list before any replies noting the above.

Thanks. Jim.


-Original Message-
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Pruning a branch from the tree (permanently)

Hello All,

I have a family file that has a family branch that I want to remove: to
include all references in the name index. 

When I delete the individual at the start of the branch I want removed, the
individual is removed.  However, his ancestors remain in the name index. To
remove the individual and ALL his ancestors does not seem possible without
removing each branch individual individually.

I have researched and searched the archives and I can't find a method to
remove the branch in one fell chop.

Is there a way to point to an individual and command the program to remove
him and all of his branch in one procedure??

Thanks for any help the group can give this new user.

Sincerely,

Jim Temple





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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[Ruth Nerud]

and I don't
understand why you don't just use the address option for the specific
cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name).



... because I don't like the way it looks in reports.


But not everyone knows where cemetaries are located and in years to come, 
when future generations read the results of your research, maybe they won't 
know where the cemetaries are. I think more information is better than less.


Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[G Oliver]

For cemetery/burial addresses I use the address (+) fields. That way I can
have a complete address with zip code along with GPS coordinates in the 2nd
address field. If I have a headstone picture I create a cemetery event/fact
and move the information to the event address fields (+).
If you do not use an event/fact the headstone picture will not print on
reports. Also the GPS coordinates will not print unless you add them to an
address. It is also easy to list those people located in that cemetery.

Just the way I do it.

GCO

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What is the advantage of using the address option rather than just naming
> the cemetery itself in the Burial field?
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Thomas Herson wrote:
>
>> I just don't understand why you would leave out the country and I
>> don't understand why you don't just use the address option for the
>> specific cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name). The
>> program provides for these things. Why not make use of them?
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
>>
>>
>> I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
>>> Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
>>> That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy
>>> minus USA --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
 Hi Jane,

 I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
 fields, such as:
 Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
 California, USA

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Re: [LegacyUG] preview

[Randolph Clark]

Could be due to an un-referenced photo?

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Connie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Randolph,
> Not sure why... works fine for me...
> Connie
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> When I have selected print sources and pictures the Individual Report
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RE: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[music-line]

Hi Everyone,

We had a similar discussion to this a few weeks back so it just might be
worth looking it up - especially but not exclusively for the U.K. users.  It
was called "How do people record addresses in an 'event'" and is about 8
pages back in the archive.  I now write all my addresses in the location
field, in full.  It means that it's possible to use the mapping feature more
accurately and when you go to the family view or the Individual's
Information Events/Facts list, you can see the exact location at a glance in
the Desc/Place/Notes column without having to open each event up and go to
the address list.  I now reserve the address list for  current/ up-to-date
addresses of people I might possibly want to write to or contact.  Whether
it is an 'event location' or a 'Born, Chr, Died, Buried etc' location I
still record addresses in the same consistent way.  I think everyone will
have their own slightly different system but it might be worth taking a look
at the archived posts mentioned above.

Best wishes

David

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What is the advantage of using the address option rather than just naming 
the cemetery itself in the Burial field?

Jeff

Thomas Herson wrote:
> I just don't understand why you would leave out the country and I
> don't understand why you don't just use the address option for the
> specific cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name). The
> program provides for these things. Why not make use of them?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
>
>
>> I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
>> Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
>> That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy
>> minus USA --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
>>> Hi Jane,
>>>
>>> I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
>>> fields, such as:
>>> Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
>>> California, USA
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[LegacyUG] Locations

[s2f]

Seems as though each time I review a section of the videos, I wind up having to 
correct hundreds of records to bring my files into some semblance of 
standardization.  I just ran the 'USA County Verification' and have 27 pages of 
discrepancies!!  The bulk of them have to do with USA county's that were not in 
existence at the time the event data was used - some of this data from 
well-recognized genealogist's research.  I know that Geoff indicates that an 
'animap' program is available for about $80 that would provide this 
information, but this is beginning to become a 'Barbie' package. :-) - you know 
where there is no end of stuff to buy for her. 

 I even went to the US Geological Service (USGS) but their data is so 
convoluted and condensedthat it is almost unuseable for my purposes.

 I know I could go to the next higher level in the 'location' format but that 
removes some good information.  i.e., instead of  ',Unicoi, Tennessee, USA', I 
could go with ',,Tennessee, USA', but I would like to pinpoint the location at 
the time of the event.  Right now, I am changing county's that I know about, 
but are there any alternative suggestions out there? 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Pruning a branch from the tree (permanently)

[ronald ferguson]

Jim,

Probably - but with extreme care; so *back up*! If you are unsure as to what 
you are doing then create a duplicate file and use that for practice.

Make sure that no one else is connected to the individuals who you wish to 
keep. Since you have deleted the individual then you cannot use him as the 
starting point to remove his ancestors, if his father and mother can be used 
then in Family View right click on the tabs and you will enter advanced 
tagging. Select an empty tag and Ancestors only; select from the next screen 
"Entire Family Line" otherwise select the top option and click OK. If the top 
option was chosen then repeat for the mother using the same tag number. Now use 
Tools>Advanced Deletion and delete everybody with that tag.

If the parents are not suitable then you will have to use a similar method to 
select and tag the descendants of the eldest ancestors from in the individual's 
line.



Ron Ferguson

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Pruning a branch from the tree (permanently)
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:15:06 -0400
>
> Hello All,
>
> I have a family file that has a family branch that I want to remove: to
> include all references in the name index.
>
> When I delete the individual at the start of the branch I want removed, the
> individual is removed. However, his ancestors remain in the name index. To
> remove the individual and ALL his ancestors does not seem possible without
> removing each branch individual individually.
>
> I have researched and searched the archives and I can't find a method to
> remove the branch in one fell chop.
>
> Is there a way to point to an individual and command the program to remove
> him and all of his branch in one procedure??
>
> Thanks for any help the group can give this new user.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jim Temple
>
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Obits?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

That is a spectacular feature.  I just assumed it would search 
alphabetically from the list shown, which does not include one startinmg 
with "obit".


Legacy does it again!

Jeff

Beth Gay wrote:

Hi Michele,

Enter obituary in the search screen and you will have several options.

Best,
Beth G.

Michele Lewis wrote:

I am trying to do an obit using the sourcewriter but there is no
option for obituary.  When I do the newspaper option it asks for an
author and stuff that isn't relevant.  Are we supposed to use the
newspaper option and just leave all the other stuff blank?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Pruning a branch from the tree (permanently)

[ronald ferguson]

Jim,

My line "select from the next screen Entire Family Line" should also have said 
"only if absolutely certain that there is no connection with anybody you wish 
to keep"


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pruning a branch from the tree (permanently)
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:45:41 +0100
>
>
> Jim,
>
> Probably - but with extreme care; so *back up*! If you are unsure as to what 
> you are doing then create a duplicate file and use that for practice.
>
> Make sure that no one else is connected to the individuals who you wish to 
> keep. Since you have deleted the individual then you cannot use him as the 
> starting point to remove his ancestors, if his father and mother can be used 
> then in Family View right click on the tabs and you will enter advanced 
> tagging. Select an empty tag and Ancestors only; select from the next screen 
> "Entire Family Line" otherwise select the top option and click OK. If the top 
> option was chosen then repeat for the mother using the same tag number. Now 
> use Tools>Advanced Deletion and delete everybody with that tag.
>
> If the parents are not suitable then you will have to use a similar method to 
> select and tag the descendants of the eldest ancestors from in the 
> individual's line.
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Pruning a branch from the tree (permanently)
>> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:15:06 -0400
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I have a family file that has a family branch that I want to remove: to
>> include all references in the name index.
>>
>> When I delete the individual at the start of the branch I want removed, the
>> individual is removed. However, his ancestors remain in the name index. To
>> remove the individual and ALL his ancestors does not seem possible without
>> removing each branch individual individually.
>>
>> I have researched and searched the archives and I can't find a method to
>> remove the branch in one fell chop.
>>
>> Is there a way to point to an individual and command the program to remove
>> him and all of his branch in one procedure??
>>
>> Thanks for any help the group can give this new user.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Jim Temple
>>
>>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Dealing with unknown names

[Elizabeth Cunningham]

I am currently using the form "(Brandt), Pearl" for last names or 
"Gartley, Unknown" for first names.  I tried using [] but the name 
disappeared.  I have may be  50 or more names where I have no last name 
and another 20 where I have no first name.  Attaching the married last 
name in parentheses at least helps me keep track of where they belong.  
Otherwise I would have at least 5 "--?--, Elizabeth"'s.   Our family has 
a tendency to repeat names.  If there is a practice that would work 
better for me I would be glad to hear it.


Elizabeth C

La Nell Shores wrote:

>From the amount of chatter on this subject, there must be a bunch of us who
use , [--?--], or some other form of notation to indicate
"Unknown" names.  If we all would submit a "suggest a new feature" to
support, indicating that we would like to be able to turn off the
standardization warnings individually, maybe they would hear us and fix it
to our liking.

I just submitted one.  The rest is up to you.  I use [--?--] and intend to
continue using that form. It's a personal choice and it seems to be a
standard form in genealogy. 


Reasoning:  If Aunt So-and-so married James, and I leave it blank, how do I
know if it is James SOMEBODY or Somebody JAMES?  Many of our names could be
used as a first name or a surname, and we need some way of indicating which
it is. 


I know it messes up the report that inserts underlines for missing data,
however it definitely looks better in regular descendant or ancestor reports
to have some way of indicating which name is missing and I use those reports
many times over more frequently than the insert underlines for missing data
report.

Just my thoughts on this subject.

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Re: [LegacyUG] HTML vs p;ain text.

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

In Outlook Express there is an setting (Options/Send) to reply to a message 
"using the same format in which it came". So, if the email you are replying 
to was in html, the reply would be in html, but if it was in plain text the 
reply would also be in plain text.


Jeff

Art Seddon wrote:

ronald ferguson wrote:

Art,

In your email program there should be a "plain text" setting
somewhere. In msn eg. its below the subject bar in Outlook Express
in the Formay Tab at the top of the Create Email Screen.

Ron Ferguson

Yep, Ron I know, but I send more HTML than I do plain text, so it's
simpler to just verify format on e:mail lists. My error was thinking
having the e:mail address checked plain text would overrule the
reply to sender's original format.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Dealing with unknown names

[david]

 In the 'Individual's Information' screen click on 'Exclude from Potential 
Problems...' , then select the 'Standardisation' tab.

 Is this what you mean?

 Regards,
  Dave (NZ).



From: La Nell Shores
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Dealing with unknown  names
>From the amount of chatter on this subject, there must be a bunch of us who
use , [--?--], or some other form of notation to indicate
"Unknown" names.  If we all would submit a "suggest a new feature" to
support, indicating that we would like to be able to turn off the
standardization warnings individually, maybe they would hear us and fix it
to our liking.

I just submitted one.  The rest is up to you.  





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[LegacyUG] Mapping addresses

[Keith Bage]

I have a question about mapping locations in relation to addresses.

 

I manage my locations with  4 place holders 

 

e.g. Brenham, Washington County, Texas, USA

 

I also use the addresses such as burial addresses

 

Now let's say for a persons birth I enter as the location Brenham,
Washington County, Texas, USA

I also use this location for the burial. However I add a burial address of
Priarie Lea Cemetery in the burial address.

 

The problem is that I can only map both instances at one location i.e. the
town centre of Brenham. But I would have liked to have a push pin in place
for the cemetery too. How do I manage to do that without creating other
location with a different structure than my 4 place holders?

 

Regards

 

 

Keith Bage

BAGE one-name study (Goons registered #4451)

www.bage.org.uk

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





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Re: [LegacyUG] English counties

[Heather Stovold]

No Ron, I am not suggesting that.  The information would be filled in
by the user.   Basically, I get tired of always having to think when I
enter a place on what it was called at the time.   I use the smae
locations a lot, but I always have to sit and think - especially if
I've been working in another area for a while.   (example of my
thoughts  ok - this is in Medicine Hat, Alberta - but wait, it
wasn't Alberta until 1905, before that it was NWT  oh - this birth
was IN 1905 - was that before or after it became a province - I better
go check online (or in my chronology screen, if I have it in a
timeline)).   Sure - I would need to do the research the first time -
but if I put it all in for the locations I use, then I wouldn't have
to check, and check, and check...For Ontario, I am doing a lot of
stuff in around the years that it kept changing, and I can NEVER
remember (was it Upper Canada first, or Canada West first) - I just
get sick of always having to look it up.

So - just the short answer - I'd expect the users to be putting in the
information as it comes up - but the program can check, if you have
indicated that a physical location had more than one name at various
dates


On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:08 AM, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Heather,
>
> Please clarify. I do hope you are not suggesting that Legacy should 
> produce/include every change in a location throughout time and the world. I 
> suspect that I might need a mainframe!
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Thanks, I feel the same way.

Bill wrote:

--- On Thu, 6/26/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 10:17 AM
I joined this thread late so please forgive me as I try to
understand.
Entering cemeteries has been a dilmma for me too.

Are you saying that in the individual information
screen's field for "in"
(as in "buried in") you enter "Oakwood
Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los
Angeles, California"?



Yes! I like to see where people were buried on the individual info
screen, and this is a trade off from going into the burial address
screen. This will give me a few more locations in the master location
list, and this has not caused any problems with reports so far as I
know.


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[LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's

[Keith Bage]

I am using the new source writer to cite an online obituary and in the
source detail I'm asked to enter the "specific" url. In this case the url is
from Ancestry (see below). Surely this can;t be the right url to reference?
How are others doing this? Any advice?

 

http://www.ancestry.com/search/obit/view.aspx?db=web-obituary&kw=bage&pid=67
41758&url=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll%3Fdb%3dweb-obituary%252
c%26rank%3d0%26_80004002%3d%26_80004003%3dbage%26gsco%3d1%252cAll%2bCountrie
s%26gspl%3d1%252c%2b%26_8204%3d%26_810002A3%3d%26_810002A2%3d%26_810002A
1%3d%26rg_83004031-int%3d%26rs_83004031-int%3d1%26_81004013%3d%26_81004012%3
d%26_81004011%3d%26_81004033%3d%26_81004032%3d%26_81004031%3d%26_8012%3d
%26_8013%3d%26_F0002717%3d%26gskw%3d%26prox%3d1%26_F0002716%3d%26ti%3d0%
26ti.si%3d0%26gss%3dangs-d

 

 

Keith Bage

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www.bage.org.uk

 

 





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[LegacyUG] Master Location Mess

[Juli Kearns]

As simply as I can state it, here's an example of my problem.

The way things are...

Kansas, Chautauqua County, Chautauqua, other, USA
city, county, state, other, country

Of course I want...

USA, Kansas, Chautauqua County, Chautauqua, other
country, state, county, city, other

How this happened was I began doing this way way way back when I didn't 
have  an option for a pre-defined country, state, county, city order yet 
this was the easiest way for me to examine populations.


I was hoping to do a fix for this by switching everything to generic 
order, thinking that might wipe out the currently applied USA terms,  
then applying appropriate pre-defined USA sorts to the generic 
terms--but I see that doesn't do it?


Is there anything I can do other than re-entering everything...which 
would be at this point a rather formidable task?  Or do I live with it.


Thanks.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Date Calculator

[Glenn Kinkade]

What year did you enter as a death year?

Glenn Kinkade

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Georgia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am still using Version 6.  I just discovered that the date calculator
> will not accept a death date of 29 February.  Does Legacy not believe in
> leap year?  I kept thinking I was entering the data incorrectly but realized
> that 29 February was unusual.  When I tried 28 February, all was well.  What
> gives?  Could it be that the information I have (i.e. 29 Feb for a given
> year) is wrong - that there was no leap that year?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Date Calculator

[Heather Stovold]

Feb 30th was a real date in a couple of coutries at a couple of
specific times..   there is a chance it was one of those

http://www.timeanddate.com/date/february-30.html

Probably in Legacy (to make this on topic) you would have to turn off
the date check on these instances, and make good notes for people.



On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:26 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
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> I was only reporting an unresolvable error, not
> judging his lifestyle, or sobriety.
> Rich in LA CA
> --- ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>
>> Go on, Rich he'd probably had a few pints may even a
>> 2 day session!
>>
>>
>> Ron Ferguson

>> > Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:40:27 -0700
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Date Calculator
>> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> >
>> > I have a church record that the priest had done
>> > baptisms on February 30, then the next day was
>> March
>> > 1. He obviously thought the whole day that year
>> had
>> > extra days in February. So if he ever found his
>> > mistake, he did not tell anyone?
>> > Rich in LA CA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

Ruth's reply to me must have gotten filtered out.

But my answer to her would be "different strokes". I participate in this
hobby for my own enjoyment, and am not concerned one way or the other
about "future generations" trying to use my research.

-- 

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>Ruth,
>
>but they will know if one puts it in the location field
>
>
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>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
>> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:43:17 -0500
>>
>>> and I don't
>>>understand why you don't just use the address option for the specific
>>>cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name).
>>
>>>... because I don't like the way it looks in reports.
>>
>> But not everyone knows where cemetaries are located and in years to come,
>> when future generations read the results of your research, maybe they won't
>> know where the cemetaries are. I think more information is better than less.
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[Elizabeth Cunningham]

I must have at least 60 different street addresses for Philadelphia (15 
of them for one grandfather!) so I always put the street address in 
before the city, county, state and country.  I'll bet anyone with 
relatives in big cities has the same problem. And I add the cemetery 
name too, if necessary (or in one case of mine, the Philadelphia 
Hospital for the Insane at Byberry.)


Elizabeth C



--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
Hi Jane,

I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
fields, such as:
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
California, USA
  


  




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Re: [LegacyUG] Dealing with unknown names

[Mary Fowler Leek]

Ron, It's in the Descendant Narrative Book Report where the lines no longer 
show or print. I'm talking about lines I've actually typed into the name field 
in Legacy, like this .  not the option we can tick in Legacy to 
include lines for missing info in the reports.

Ironically, it appears they do show up and print in the Descendant Book report? 
This doesn't make much sense. My favorite report is the Descendant Narrative 
Book report and the one I use all the time.

Well, double checked to be certain I was using the exact same font and 
discovered one was a different font face. Changing to the identical font face 
used in Descendant Report fixed things. Now I'm getting my typed underline in 
both reports in both report styles. Yea

Now, if I can just figure out another little oddity in report formatting, I'll 
be good to go.

Thanks so much for letting me know you weren't able to duplicate. I had 
switched back and forth, trying to figure out if anything was different and had 
convinced myself I was using the same settings everywhere. So happy to have 
this cleared up.

Mary

  - Original Message - 
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  To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:53 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Dealing with unknown names



  Mary,

  In which reports are the lines not showing up? They are OK in mine - I have 
only looked at the Preview though, so is it something that happens on printing 
etc. (You can tell I prefer not to use them!)


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Re: [LegacyUG] Thank you Legacy

[Thomas Herson]

I have yet to hear from Millenia about my problem with the Suorce Citation 
Repor. I e-mailed them at Geoff Rasmussen's suggestion several days ago. 
Consider yourself lucky to have heard back from them so quickly.


Tom Herson
I(thaca, NY
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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:03 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Thank you Legacy


With all the questions about this and that, and queries about problems in 
Version 3 (to be expected with any new version), I thought it necessary to 
balance things out by sending an email commending Millennium for the truly 
fantastic program they created in Legacy.


It is really phenomenal in its vast capabilities and yet ease of use. Far 
better than anything else available to genealogists. Even though I have 
used it since I discovered it at version 6, I remain amazed with all that 
the new Legacy 7 offers.  Of course there are a few quirks here and 
there - as with any new software version - but here we Legacy users 
benefit from still another advantage: the support is as excellent as the 
software itself and the support staff is extremely responsive and reply in 
a timely manner despite being overwhelmed with all the queries after the 
new version's appearance. Example: I recently reported a bug in Legacy 
Charting and was contacted by the author of Legacy Charting who 
immediately located the bug, explained what caused it, and corrected it - 
in just 24 hours!


Kudos to all involved.  And, if anyone is wondering, I am in no way 
associated with Millennium or Legacy.  Just a pleasantly satisfied 
customer. Thank you Millennium. Good job.


Jeff Malka
   "Sephardic Genealogy: Discovering your Sephardic Ancestors and their
World", Avotaynu, 2002
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[Thomas Herson]

So do you have at least 60 lines for Philadelphia in your Location Report?

- Original Message - 
From: "Elizabeth Cunningham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


I must have at least 60 different street addresses for Philadelphia (15 
of them for one grandfather!) so I always put the street address in 
before the city, county, state and country.  I'll bet anyone with 
relatives in big cities has the same problem. And I add the cemetery 
name too, if necessary (or in one case of mine, the Philadelphia 
Hospital for the Insane at Byberry.)


Elizabeth C



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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
Hi Jane,

I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
fields, such as:
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
California, USA
  


  




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Re: [LegacyUG] Pruning a branch from the tree (permanently)

[Robert57P via Gmail]

You might want to make a DUPLICATE/TEST of your file, then tag that 
individual and all related, and then delete the UNTAGGED ones.  That way 
what will be left is the folks you actually want to delete.  You can look 
them over to see for sure who will be purged and make sure you didn't want 
any of them.


Once you are sure you are OK, again make a duplicate of your ORIGINAL file, 
then tag that individual and all related, and this time delete the TAGGED 
folks.  If you are still happy with it, then you can either make this your 
working file, or do the same to your working file.


**Make sure you've always used a tag slot that isn't in use first!**

Bob
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:28 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pruning a branch from the tree (permanently)



Jim,

My line "select from the next screen Entire Family Line" should also have 
said "only if absolutely certain that there is no connection with anybody 
you wish to keep"



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pruning a branch from the tree (permanently)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:45:41 +0100


Jim,

Probably - but with extreme care; so *back up*! If you are unsure as to 
what you are doing then create a duplicate file and use that for practice.


Make sure that no one else is connected to the individuals who you wish to 
keep. Since you have deleted the individual then you cannot use him as the 
starting point to remove his ancestors, if his father and mother can be 
used then in Family View right click on the tabs and you will enter 
advanced tagging. Select an empty tag and Ancestors only; select from the 
next screen "Entire Family Line" otherwise select the top option and click 
OK. If the top option was chosen then repeat for the mother using the same 
tag number. Now use Tools>Advanced Deletion and delete everybody with that 
tag.


If the parents are not suitable then you will have to use a similar method 
to select and tag the descendants of the eldest ancestors from in the 
individual's line.




Ron Ferguson

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Pruning a branch from the tree (permanently)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:15:06 -0400

Hello All,

I have a family file that has a family branch that I want to remove: to
include all references in the name index.

When I delete the individual at the start of the branch I want removed, 
the
individual is removed. However, his ancestors remain in the name index. 
To
remove the individual and ALL his ancestors does not seem possible 
without

removing each branch individual individually.

I have researched and searched the archives and I can't find a method to
remove the branch in one fell chop.

Is there a way to point to an individual and command the program to 
remove

him and all of his branch in one procedure??

Thanks for any help the group can give this new user.

Sincerely,

Jim Temple




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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Gene Young]

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Seems as though each time I review a section of the videos, I wind up having to correct hundreds of records to bring my files into some semblance of standardization.  I just ran the 'USA County Verification' and have 27 pages of discrepancies!!  The bulk of them have to do with USA county's that were not in existence at the time the event data was used - some of this data from well-recognized genealogist's research.  I know that Geoff indicates that an 'animap' program is available for about $80 that would provide this information, but this is beginning to become a 'Barbie' package. :-) - you know where there is no end of stuff to buy for her. 


 I even went to the US Geological Service (USGS) but their data is so 
convoluted and condensedthat it is almost unuseable for my purposes.

 I know I could go to the next higher level in the 'location' format but that removes some good information.  i.e., instead of  ',Unicoi, Tennessee, USA', I could go with ',,Tennessee, USA', but I would like to pinpoint the location at the time of the event.  Right now, I am changing county's that I know about, but are there any alternative suggestions out there? 


Bob




Go to

http://www.familyhistory101.com/map_county.html

It will show the progression of county formations so you can see what county a town was in during a 
particular time frame.


It is free.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's

[Don Cook]

Keith, 

I for one have long ago abandoned any attempt to use URL's of this nature in 
citations. You have pointed to one problem and the other is that with the 
nature of URL's and web-design and re-design and re-design and ... the URL by 
its very nature has little or no permanence to it. 

>From what I can see you are looking at an obituary on Ancestry.com referencing 
>a Bage. To me, the citation would require that you acknowledge that it was 
>from Ancestry.com and the search parameters that will allow others to locate 
>it, such as the name, where published originally, date published, etc. These 
>items should be taken from the item viewed not the ones you used for the 
>search, it can be different.

Many of these issues are being foisted off on us because E. S. Mills says this 
is the way it should be and we all are jumping on it.  Let's hope she doesn't 
write a new book or we'll all be converting again. 

I expect this reply to evoke a storm of protest ... so be it! 

Don

From: Keith Bage 
  Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:58 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's


  I am using the new source writer to cite an online obituary and in the source 
detail I'm asked to enter the "specific" url. In this case the url is from 
Ancestry (see below). Surely this can;t be the right url to reference? How are 
others doing this? Any advice?

   

  
http://www.ancestry.com/search/obit/view.aspx?db=web-obituary&kw=bage&pid=6741758&url=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll%3Fdb%3dweb-obituary%252c%26rank%3d0%26_80004002%3d%26_80004003%3dbage%26gsco%3d1%252cAll%2bCountries%26gspl%3d1%252c%2b%26_8204%3d%26_810002A3%3d%26_810002A2%3d%26_810002A1%3d%26rg_83004031-int%3d%26rs_83004031-int%3d1%26_81004013%3d%26_81004012%3d%26_81004011%3d%26_81004033%3d%26_81004032%3d%26_81004031%3d%26_8012%3d%26_8013%3d%26_F0002717%3d%26gskw%3d%26prox%3d1%26_F0002716%3d%26ti%3d0%26ti.si%3d0%26gss%3dangs-d

   

   

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Re: [LegacyUG] Dealing with unknown names

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I do not think that is adequate.  You may want to know about other 
standardization problems, just exempt Legacy considering [--?--] to be one of 
the "problems".  Doing what you suggest means that that individual may be 
excluded from Legacy finding any other standardization problems.

Just my 2 cents.

Jeff
  - Original Message - 
  From: david 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:21 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Dealing with unknown names



   In the 'Individual's Information' screen click on 'Exclude from Potential 
Problems...' , then select the 'Standardisation' tab.

   Is this what you mean?

   Regards,
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  Subject: [LegacyUG] Dealing with unknown  names
>From the amount of chatter on this subject, there must be a bunch of us who
use , [--?--], or some other form of notation to indicate
"Unknown" names.  If we all would submit a "suggest a new feature" to
support, indicating that we would like to be able to turn off the
standardization warnings individually, maybe they would hear us and fix it
to our liking.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's

[Thomas Herson]

If that URL gets you to the obituary your are citing, then it's the correct 
"specific" URL. 

www.ancestry.com only gets you to Ancestry's home page.

What is your objection to using the longer URL?

Tom Herson
Ithaca, NY
  - Original Message - 
  From: Keith Bage 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:58 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's


  I am using the new source writer to cite an online obituary and in the source 
detail I'm asked to enter the "specific" url. In this case the url is from 
Ancestry (see below). Surely this can;t be the right url to reference? How are 
others doing this? Any advice?

   

  
http://www.ancestry.com/search/obit/view.aspx?db=web-obituary&kw=bage&pid=6741758&url=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll%3Fdb%3dweb-obituary%252c%26rank%3d0%26_80004002%3d%26_80004003%3dbage%26gsco%3d1%252cAll%2bCountries%26gspl%3d1%252c%2b%26_8204%3d%26_810002A3%3d%26_810002A2%3d%26_810002A1%3d%26rg_83004031-int%3d%26rs_83004031-int%3d1%26_81004013%3d%26_81004012%3d%26_81004011%3d%26_81004033%3d%26_81004032%3d%26_81004031%3d%26_8012%3d%26_8013%3d%26_F0002717%3d%26gskw%3d%26prox%3d1%26_F0002716%3d%26ti%3d0%26ti.si%3d0%26gss%3dangs-d

   

   

  Keith Bage

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  www.bage.org.uk

   

   

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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[myrna20]

Everyone has their own way of doing this and here is mine:

Pushmataha - Reheboth Baptist Cemetery, Choctaw County, Alabama, 
USA

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RE: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[ronald ferguson]

Tom,

There is absolutely nothing which says that this *has* to be the case. This 
limitation is only suggested because American Geo-locations use that format. 
Legacy is international.

I put the full address in the Location Field and only use the Address Fields 
for current names and addresses etc.


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:59:03 -0400
>
> The location (including burial) field is intended for city/town/village,
> county, state, country.
>
> The address field is used to identify more specific locations within a
> location, such as names of cemeteries, hospitals, etc.
>
> Placing address items within the location field (with or without a comma)
> greatly increases the number of locations that the program has to keep track
> of.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
> To: "LegacyUserGroup" 
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
>
>
>> What is the advantage of using the address option rather than just naming
>> the cemetery itself in the Burial field?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Thomas Herson wrote:
>>> I just don't understand why you would leave out the country and I
>>> don't understand why you don't just use the address option for the
>>> specific cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name). The
>>> program provides for these things. Why not make use of them?
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bill" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:34 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
>>>
>>>
 I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
 Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
 That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy
 minus USA --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon  wrote:

> From: Art Seddon 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
> Hi Jane,
>
> I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
> fields, such as:
> Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
> California, USA


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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations

[Kirsten Bowman]

Bob:

If you're working with a number of early lines, Animap is worth every penny.  
Otherwise, I've found that sometimes USGenWeb county sites may have the answers 
on boundary changes and sometimes even Wikipedia can help.  If you have some 
that are particularly troublesome, write to me off-list with the location and 
date and I'll do a few lookups.

Kirsten
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:22 PM
To: Legacy
Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations


Seems as though each time I review a section of the videos, I wind up having to 
correct hundreds of records to bring my files into some semblance of 
standardization.  I just ran the 'USA County Verification' and have 27 pages of 
discrepancies!!  The bulk of them have to do with USA county's that were not in 
existence at the time the event data was used - some of this data from 
well-recognized genealogist's research.  I know that Geoff indicates that an 
'animap' program is available for about $80 that would provide this 
information, but this is beginning to become a 'Barbie' package. :-) - you know 
where there is no end of stuff to buy for her. 

 I even went to the US Geological Service (USGS) but their data is so 
convoluted and condensedthat it is almost unuseable for my purposes.

 I know I could go to the next higher level in the 'location' format but that 
removes some good information.  i.e., instead of  ',Unicoi, Tennessee, USA', I 
could go with ',,Tennessee, USA', but I would like to pinpoint the location at 
the time of the event.  Right now, I am changing county's that I know about, 
but are there any alternative suggestions out there? 

Bob








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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[GeoSci]

Gene
   GREAT SITE!!
Thanks
Keith

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Gene Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> Seems as though each time I review a section of the videos, I wind up
>> having to correct hundreds of records to bring my files into some semblance
>> of standardization.  I just ran the 'USA County Verification' and have 27
>> pages of discrepancies!!  The bulk of them have to do with USA county's that
>> were not in existence at the time the event data was used - some of this
>> data from well-recognized genealogist's research.  I know that Geoff
>> indicates that an 'animap' program is available for about $80 that would
>> provide this information, but this is beginning to become a 'Barbie'
>> package. :-) - you know where there is no end of stuff to buy for her.
>>  I even went to the US Geological Service (USGS) but their data is so
>> convoluted and condensedthat it is almost unuseable for my purposes.
>>
>>  I know I could go to the next higher level in the 'location' format but
>> that removes some good information.  i.e., instead of  ',Unicoi, Tennessee,
>> USA', I could go with ',,Tennessee, USA', but I would like to pinpoint the
>> location at the time of the event.  Right now, I am changing county's that I
>> know about, but are there any alternative suggestions out there?
>> Bob
>>
>
>
> Go to
>
> http://www.familyhistory101.com/map_county.html
>
> It will show the progression of county formations so you can see what county
> a town was in during a particular time frame.
>
> It is free.
>
> --
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> Legacy Family Tree
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[Thomas Herson]

They will also know if the cemetery name and address is put in the address 
fields where they belong :)


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To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions



Ruth,

but they will know if one puts it in the location field


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:43:17 -0500


and I don't
understand why you don't just use the address option for the specific
cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name).



... because I don't like the way it looks in reports.


But not everyone knows where cemetaries are located and in years to come,
when future generations read the results of your research, maybe they 
won't
know where the cemetaries are. I think more information is better than 
less.


Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[Art Seddon]

It's easier for the program to keep track of addresses than locations?

Art Seddon

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From: "Thomas Herson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


The location (including burial) field is intended for city/town/village,
county, state, country.

The address field is used to identify more specific locations within a
location, such as names of cemeteries, hospitals, etc.

Placing address items within the location field (with or without a comma)
greatly increases the number of locations that the program has to keep track
of.

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To: "LegacyUserGroup" 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


> What is the advantage of using the address option rather than just naming
> the cemetery itself in the Burial field?
>
> Jeff
>
> Thomas Herson wrote:
>> I just don't understand why you would leave out the country and I
>> don't understand why you don't just use the address option for the
>> specific cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name). The
>> program provides for these things. Why not make use of them?
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
>>
>>
>>> I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
>>> Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
>>> That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy
>>> minus USA --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
 From: Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
 Hi Jane,

 I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
 fields, such as:
 Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
 California, USA
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Gedstar Pro 3.2 and Legacy 7 -- problems with conversion

[JD Liddil]

Hmm. My file converted just fine when I moved to L7. I'd wait to see
what the developer has to say.You might try a database repair in
Legacy

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Kathy Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any Gedstar Pro users who have upgraded to Legacy 7?  To complicate matters
> I also changed computers and the new one is running Vista.
>
>
>
> Legacy 7 is running fine so far on Vista.  I moved my Palm Pilot application
> over to the new machine and have updated my Legacy file a lot lately so
> decided to put Gedstar Pro on.  I'd bought Gedstar 3.1 and had used that
> successfully with Legacy 6 on Windows XP.  When I went to download the
> software I found that version 3.2 is available so downloaded that.  It
> installed ok – on computer and Palm Pilot.  I exported my data file to a
> gedcom file and proceeded to convert the file to Gedstar Pro format.  I got
> an error message:
>
>
>
> Line found in Gedcom without a level #
>
> File TCGedparse.cpp  line 183.
>
>
>
> I've messaged the software vendor but haven't had a response.  I don't know
> if the problem is with my data file, the Gedstar software or if it is some
> Vista incompatibility.  I can say that I seem to have been able to export
> the same gedcom file to my old computer – still running Legacy 6.   I really
> miss not having my data file on my Palm Pilot – and it has just been 24
> hrs.  Suggestions appreciated.
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I don't know about alternatives. I bought Animap in
1999 and upgrades when needed. IMHO, you cannot do USA
locations, using the name at date of document, without
a lot of extra busy work. I have also used the data
from there to enhance my Chronology Timelines. 
Rich in LA CA 
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Seems as though each time I review a section of the
> videos, I wind up having to correct hundreds of
> records to bring my files into some semblance of
> standardization.  I just ran the 'USA County
> Verification' and have 27 pages of discrepancies!! 
> The bulk of them have to do with USA county's that
> were not in existence at the time the event data was
> used - some of this data from well-recognized
> genealogist's research.  I know that Geoff indicates
> that an 'animap' program is available for about $80
> that would provide this information, but this is
> beginning to become a 'Barbie' package. :-) - you
> know where there is no end of stuff to buy for her. 
> 
>  I even went to the US Geological Service (USGS) but
> their data is so convoluted and condensedthat it is
> almost unuseable for my purposes.
> 
>  I know I could go to the next higher level in the
> 'location' format but that removes some good
> information.  i.e., instead of  ',Unicoi, Tennessee,
> USA', I could go with ',,Tennessee, USA', but I
> would like to pinpoint the location at the time of
> the event.  Right now, I am changing county's that I
> know about, but are there any alternative
> suggestions out there? 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[Elizabeth Cunningham]

I had never actually run a Location Report, so I did, all 66 pages of 
it.  There are 146 Philadelphia Locations in it that are street 
addresses.  Is this a high or low number of pages for this report?  My 
ancestors seem to have moved around a bit, and this particular crowd 
mostly only arrived in the 1880's or 1890's.   The group that has been 
here longer all lived out in the country.


 Elizabeth C

Thomas Herson wrote:
So do you have at least 60 lines for Philadelphia in your Location 
Report?


- Original Message - From: "Elizabeth Cunningham" 
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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


I must have at least 60 different street addresses for Philadelphia 
(15 of them for one grandfather!) so I always put the street address 
in before the city, county, state and country.  I'll bet anyone with 
relatives in big cities has the same problem. And I add the cemetery 
name too, if necessary (or in one case of mine, the Philadelphia 
Hospital for the Insane at Byberry.)


Elizabeth C
   

--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
Hi Jane,

I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
fields, such as:
Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
California, USA
 
  




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[LegacyUG] Question about sourcing books

[Chuck Arbogast]

Hello,
  I have just recently received a book on CD that has my family
history.  I have a few questions about how to source this book on CD.
Actually there are 5 CD's, one for each volume.  This is a pdf version
of the original hardback version.  So, I chose, "Book, authored
(reprint)", then "Two authors", then "CD/DVD book (text)".  I believe
this is the correct source path.  I have multiple questions about this
source and source output.

Here is the Footnote/Endnote Citation:
Charles Joseph Eades and Frances (Yeager) Dunham Ph. D., Descendants
of Michael Arbogast (ca. 1734-1812), 5 Volumes , IV: 578 (2880);
(N.p.: n.p., n.d.).

My questions:
  Is this the correct way to source this book on CD?

  What if there are more than two authors?

  Each volume is on a separate CD containing one pdf file.  The page
number is 578 in the pdf file but at the bottom of the text is the
page number and it has   2880, hence why I put 578 (2880).  Is this
correct way of doing it?  Volume III pdf last page in the text says
2304 and the first page in the Volume IV pdf text has 2305.  So, each
pdf has page numbers in the text that don't correspond with the actual
page number in the pdf.  My guess is on the original hard back volumes
the page that I want to source would be 2880, so I was a little
confused which one to use.  Any help would be appreciated.

  And last but not least, what does "(N.p.: n.p., n.d.)" mean at the
very end of that source?

Again, any answers or opinions are appreciated.

Thanks,
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RE: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's

[Kirsten Bowman]

Keith:

I don't know about "specific" in the source template, but _EE_ recommends
using the URL for the home page along with keywords or database titles to
lead to the location of the item.  I think it would be just silly to include
this whole string in your source citation.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith Bage
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's


I am using the new source writer to cite an online obituary and in the
source detail I'm asked to enter the "specific" url. In this case the url is
from Ancestry (see below). Surely this can;t be the right url to reference?
How are others doing this? Any advice?

http://www.ancestry.com/search/obit/view.aspx?db=web-obituary&kw=bage&pid=67
41758&url=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll%3Fdb%3dweb-obituary%252
c%26rank%3d0%26_80004002%3d%26_80004003%3dbage%26gsco%3d1%252cAll%2bCountrie
s%26gspl%3d1%252c%2b%26_8204%3d%26_810002A3%3d%26_810002A2%3d%26_810002A
1%3d%26rg_83004031-int%3d%26rs_83004031-int%3d1%26_81004013%3d%26_81004012%3
d%26_81004011%3d%26_81004033%3d%26_81004032%3d%26_81004031%3d%26_8012%3d
%26_8013%3d%26_F0002717%3d%26gskw%3d%26prox%3d1%26_F0002716%3d%26ti%3d0%
26ti.si%3d0%26gss%3dangs-d


Keith Bage
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[LegacyUG] Transferring Files from 6.0 to 7.0

[Sandra Black]

I have a friend who had backed up her 6.0 files. Her computer crashed so she
purchased a new computer. She put 7.0 on her new computer and wondered if
her 6.0 backed up files were compatible with the 7.0 that is now on her new
computer. Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's

[Mary Young]

Could you use tinyurl ?
Mary Young

On 6/26/08, Keith Bage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I am using the new source writer to cite an online obituary and in the
> source detail I'm asked to enter the "specific" url. In this case the url is
> from Ancestry (see below). Surely this can;t be the right url to reference?
> How are others doing this? Any advice?



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RE: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's

[Laurel Feal]

I do something along these lines:  

 searched for reference to Darlington, William

or:

 searched for reference to Darlington, William  


Laurel 



> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:25:06 -0600
>
> Keith,
>
> I for one have long ago abandoned any attempt to use URL's of this nature in 
> citations. You have pointed to one problem and the other is that with the 
> nature of URL's and web-design and re-design and re-design and ... the URL by 
> its very nature has little or no permanence to it.
>
> From what I can see you are looking at an obituary on Ancestry.com 
> referencing a Bage. To me, the citation would require that you acknowledge 
> that it was from Ancestry.com and the search parameters that will allow 
> others to locate it, such as the name, where published originally, date 
> published, etc. These items should be taken from the item viewed not the ones 
> you used for the search, it can be different.
>
> Many of these issues are being foisted off on us because E. S. Mills says 
> this is the way it should be and we all are jumping on it. Let's hope she 
> doesn't write a new book or we'll all be converting again.
>
> I expect this reply to evoke a storm of protest ... so be it!
>
> Don
>
> From: Keith Bage
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:58 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's
>
>
> I am using the new source writer to cite an online obituary and in the source 
> detail I’m asked to enter the “specific” url. In this case the url is from 
> Ancestry (see below). Surely this can;t be the right url to reference? How 
> are others doing this? Any advice?
>
>
>
> http://www.ancestry.com/search/obit/view.aspx?db=web-obituary&kw=bage&pid=6741758&url=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll%3Fdb%3dweb-obituary%252c%26rank%3d0%26_80004002%3d%26_80004003%3dbage%26gsco%3d1%252cAll%2bCountries%26gspl%3d1%252c%2b%26_8204%3d%26_810002A3%3d%26_810002A2%3d%26_810002A1%3d%26rg_83004031-int%3d%26rs_83004031-int%3d1%26_81004013%3d%26_81004012%3d%26_81004011%3d%26_81004033%3d%26_81004032%3d%26_81004031%3d%26_8012%3d%26_8013%3d%26_F0002717%3d%26gskw%3d%26prox%3d1%26_F0002716%3d%26ti%3d0%26ti.si%3d0%26gss%3dangs-d
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>
>
>
> Keith Bage
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[LegacyUG] Database Cleanup Suggestion

[Kirsten Bowman]

For those of us who have tedious cleanups to do with Legacy master lists or
source conversions, just a reminder that the Olympic Games will be starting
in about a month, along with the usual endless commercials.  A TV set next
to your computer monitor could make a nice multi-tasking setup.

Kirsten





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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[Bill]

--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 11:54 AM
> --- On Thu, 6/26/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 10:17 AM
> > I joined this thread late so please forgive me as I
> try to
> > understand. 
> > Entering cemeteries has been a dilmma for me too.
> > 
> > Are you saying that in the individual information
> > screen's field for "in" 
> > (as in "buried in") you enter "Oakwood
> > Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los 
> > Angeles, California"?
> > 

Yes! I like to see where people were buried on the
individual info screen, and this is a trade off from going
into the burial address screen. This will give me a few
more locations in the master location list, but this is not a problem. This 
saves a lot of key strokes and time. by leaving off the comma between cemetery 
and ciy it keeps the city, county, state consistent.

 I really haven't entered any new names for a long time and I entered all the 
burial addresses and GPS locations as was suggested a long time ago, so I 
really have the place of burial entered twice. Now I don't have to go looking 
for it.

As far as entering the country is concerned, if they were born in the USA I 
leave it off. If it is out of the USA I entered the country. 

It works for me!

 Bill


  



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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's

[Thomas Herson]

Haven't you looked at the manual or some of templates, Kirsten. If you had, 
you would know that specific web sites in addtion to general web sites are 
suggeted.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kirsten Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:27 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's



Keith:

I don't know about "specific" in the source template, but _EE_ recommends
using the URL for the home page along with keywords or database titles to
lead to the location of the item.  I think it would be just silly to 
include

this whole string in your source citation.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith Bage
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's


I am using the new source writer to cite an online obituary and in the
source detail I'm asked to enter the "specific" url. In this case the url 
is
from Ancestry (see below). Surely this can;t be the right url to 
reference?

How are others doing this? Any advice?

http://www.ancestry.com/search/obit/view.aspx?db=web-obituary&kw=bage&pid=67
41758&url=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll%3Fdb%3dweb-obituary%252
c%26rank%3d0%26_80004002%3d%26_80004003%3dbage%26gsco%3d1%252cAll%2bCountrie
s%26gspl%3d1%252c%2b%26_8204%3d%26_810002A3%3d%26_810002A2%3d%26_810002A
1%3d%26rg_83004031-int%3d%26rs_83004031-int%3d1%26_81004013%3d%26_81004012%3
d%26_81004011%3d%26_81004033%3d%26_81004032%3d%26_81004031%3d%26_8012%3d
%26_8013%3d%26_F0002717%3d%26gskw%3d%26prox%3d1%26_F0002716%3d%26ti%3d0%
26ti.si%3d0%26gss%3dangs-d


Keith Bage
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping addresses

[GeoSci]

Some have said this works. at least it will be a separate pin - so
you could move it in a close-up map.

Brenham -  Priarie Lea Cemetery, Washington County, Texas, USA

Keith


On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Keith Bage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a question about mapping locations in relation to addresses.
>
>
>
> I manage my locations with  4 place holders
>
>
>
> e.g. Brenham, Washington County, Texas, USA
>
>
>
> I also use the addresses such as burial addresses
>
>
>
> Now let's say for a persons birth I enter as the location Brenham,
> Washington County, Texas, USA
>
> I also use this location for the burial. However I add a burial address of
> Priarie Lea Cemetery in the burial address.
>
>
>
> The problem is that I can only map both instances at one location i.e. the
> town centre of Brenham. But I would have liked to have a push pin in place
> for the cemetery too. How do I manage to do that without creating other
> location with a different structure than my 4 place holders?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>
> Keith Bage
>
> BAGE one-name study (Goons registered #4451)
>
> www.bage.org.uk
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's

[Allen Prunty]

Mary Young wrote:

Could you use tinyurl ?
Mary Young

Tiny URLs expire after about 4 months.

Allen



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Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

[Elizabeth Cunningham]

I meant to add that in the 66 page location report I have 210 listings 
with just Philadelphia.  If all my Philadelphia listings had no street 
addresses, the whole database would be unmanageable.


  Elizabeth C

Thomas Herson wrote:
So do you have at least 60 lines for Philadelphia in your Location 
Report?


- Original Message - From: "Elizabeth Cunningham" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

I must have at least 60 different street addresses for Philadelphia 
(15 of them for one grandfather!) so I always put the street address 
in before the city, county, state and country.  I'll bet anyone with 
relatives in big cities has the same problem. And I add the cemetery 
name too, if necessary (or in one case of mine, the Philadelphia 
Hospital for the Insane at Byberry.)


Elizabeth C





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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's

[Leon Chapman]

Keith:

Try using

http://www.tiny.cc/

if you want a shorter URL.

Chap

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Keith Bage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am using the new source writer to cite an online obituary and in the
> source detail I'm asked to enter the "specific" url. In this case the url is
> from Ancestry (see below). Surely this can;t be the right url to reference?
> How are others doing this? Any advice?
>
>
>
> http://www.ancestry.com/search/obit/view.aspx?db=web-obituary&kw=bage&pid=6741758&url=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll%3Fdb%3dweb-obituary%252c%26rank%3d0%26_80004002%3d%26_80004003%3dbage%26gsco%3d1%252cAll%2bCountries%26gspl%3d1%252c%2b%26_8204%3d%26_810002A3%3d%26_810002A2%3d%26_810002A1%3d%26rg_83004031-int%3d%26rs_83004031-int%3d1%26_81004013%3d%26_81004012%3d%26_81004011%3d%26_81004033%3d%26_81004032%3d%26_81004031%3d%26_8012%3d%26_8013%3d%26_F0002717%3d%26gskw%3d%26prox%3d1%26_F0002716%3d%26ti%3d0%26ti.si%3d0%26gss%3dangs-d
>
>
>
>
>
> Keith Bage
>
> BAGE one-name study (Goons registered #4451)
>
> www.bage.org.uk
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping addresses

[Leon Chapman]

Keith:

I use the following so I can map 2 locations:

1. Brenham, Washington County, Texas, USA  -- Death location

2. Brenham - Priarie Lea Cemetery, Washington County, Texas, USA  -
Buriel location

This way, you can use the push-pin for the cemetery location.

Yes, it creates two locations, but they are different.

Chap

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Keith Bage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a question about mapping locations in relation to addresses.
>
>
>
> I manage my locations with  4 place holders
>
>
>
> e.g. Brenham, Washington County, Texas, USA
>
>
>
> I also use the addresses such as burial addresses
>
>
>
> Now let's say for a persons birth I enter as the location Brenham,
> Washington County, Texas, USA
>
> I also use this location for the burial. However I add a burial address of
> Priarie Lea Cemetery in the burial address.
>
>
>
> The problem is that I can only map both instances at one location i.e. the
> town centre of Brenham. But I would have liked to have a push pin in place
> for the cemetery too. How do I manage to do that without creating other
> location with a different structure than my 4 place holders?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>
> Keith Bage
>
> BAGE one-name study (Goons registered #4451)
>
> www.bage.org.uk
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Dealing with unknown names

[JLB]

In theory, I like the best the option of putting [[ ]] to indicate the 
married surname for women, except the surname does not line up 
alphabetically under others of that surname.  It goes after the people 
with no surnames.  So I don't know how useful it is.   This topic went 
back and forth a couple of weeks ago and various suggestions were offered. 
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Elizabeth Cunningham wrote:
I am currently using the form "(Brandt), Pearl" for last names or 
"Gartley, Unknown" for first names.  I tried using [] but the name 
disappeared.  I have may be  50 or more names where I have no last 
name and another 20 where I have no first name.  Attaching the married 
last name in parentheses at least helps me keep track of where they 
belong.  Otherwise I would have at least 5 "--?--, Elizabeth"'s.   Our 
family has a tendency to repeat names.  If there is a practice that 
would work better for me I would be glad to hear it.


Elizabeth C

La Nell Shores wrote:
>From the amount of chatter on this subject, there must be a bunch of 
us who

use , [--?--], or some other form of notation to indicate
"Unknown" names.  If we all would submit a "suggest a new feature" to
support, indicating that we would like to be able to turn off the
standardization warnings individually, maybe they would hear us and 
fix it

to our liking.

I just submitted one.  The rest is up to you.  I use [--?--] and 
intend to

continue using that form. It's a personal choice and it seems to be a
standard form in genealogy.
Reasoning:  If Aunt So-and-so married James, and I leave it blank, 
how do I
know if it is James SOMEBODY or Somebody JAMES?  Many of our names 
could be
used as a first name or a surname, and we need some way of indicating 
which

it is.
I know it messes up the report that inserts underlines for missing data,
however it definitely looks better in regular descendant or ancestor 
reports
to have some way of indicating which name is missing and I use those 
reports
many times over more frequently than the insert underlines for 
missing data

report.

Just my thoughts on this subject.

La Nell







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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sourcing books

[Mary Moyer]

Chuck

<<>>

N.p. = no place
n.p. = no publisher
n.d. = no date

(Because the format is supposed to follow the format of place, publisher, date.)

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RE: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's

[Kirsten Bowman]

Don:

No protest.  What you've said is basically what Ms. Mills says too.

Kirsten

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Don Cook
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:25 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's


Keith,

I for one have long ago abandoned any attempt to use URL's of this nature in
citations. You have pointed to one problem and the other is that with the
nature of URL's and web-design and re-design and re-design and ... the URL
by its very nature has little or no permanence to it.

>From what I can see you are looking at an obituary on Ancestry.com
referencing a Bage. To me, the citation would require that you acknowledge
that it was from Ancestry.com and the search parameters that will allow
others to locate it, such as the name, where published originally, date
published, etc. These items should be taken from the item viewed not the
ones you used for the search, it can be different.

Many of these issues are being foisted off on us because E. S. Mills says
this is the way it should be and we all are jumping on it.  Let's hope she
doesn't write a new book or we'll all be converting again.

I expect this reply to evoke a storm of protest ... so be it!

Don

From: Keith Bage
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing LONG!! url's


I am using the new source writer to cite an online obituary and in the
source detail I’m asked to enter the “specific” url. In this case the url is
from Ancestry (see below). Surely this can;t be the right url to reference?
How are others doing this? Any advice?

http://www.ancestry.com/search/obit/view.aspx?db=web-obituary&kw=bage&pid=67
41758&url=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll%3Fdb%3dweb-obituary%252
c%26rank%3d0%26_80004002%3d%26_80004003%3dbage%26gsco%3d1%252cAll%2bCountrie
s%26gspl%3d1%252c%2b%26_8204%3d%26_810002A3%3d%26_810002A2%3d%26_810002A
1%3d%26rg_83004031-int%3d%26rs_83004031-int%3d1%26_81004013%3d%26_81004012%3
d%26_81004011%3d%26_81004033%3d%26_81004032%3d%26_81004031%3d%26_8012%3d
%26_8013%3d%26_F0002717%3d%26gskw%3d%26prox%3d1%26_F0002716%3d%26ti%3d0%
26ti.si%3d0%26gss%3dangs-d


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