RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread Kirsten Bowman
JL:

It's the expertise part that's missing.  I remember all the problems people
had when v.7 was first released and they tried to keep both 6 & 7 on their
systems.  With 7,000 records in my database and 40 years of research, I'm
really hesitant to start playing around with things.  I already have a big
mess--don't want to make it a huge one.  If someone knew an absolutely,
positively foolproof way to do it, though, I'm just about ready to try.

Kirsten

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs


Well, now somebody says it will.  I'd say the best option would be to
simply try it.  Probably it's still possible to get an installer for
v.6. and if you still have your v.6 deluxe registration key that should
do it.
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Kirsten Bowman wrote:
> JL:
>
> Thanks for the suggestion but there were several posts early on saying
that
> it won't work.  And then there's the fact that v.7 is installed over v.6.
>
> Kirsten
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JLB
> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 7:57 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs
>
>
> Not Ron here, but in regards to expertise to go back to v.6.  I saw
> some-one write today that geds don't export properly so that might not
> work.  My idea was to export my database as a ged and import it back
> into v.6.  That's very simple (if it works).
> -
> JL
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
>
> Kirsten Bowman wrote:
>
>> Ron:
>>
>> I know your main focus with Legacy is in maintaining your web page, but
>>
> just
>
>> imagine how frustrated you would be if you hadn't been able to do that
>>
> since
>
>> "upgrading" and didn't have the expertise to go back to v6.  That's the
>> pickle some of us are in now.  I would love to know a workaround for the
>> source repetitions in RTF reports and if you have one I'd be extremely
>> grateful because right now Legacy is worse than useless for me.
>>
>> Kirsten





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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread JLB
Well, now somebody says it will.  I'd say the best option would be to 
simply try it.  Probably it's still possible to get an installer for 
v.6. and if you still have your v.6 deluxe registration key that should 
do it.

-
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Kirsten Bowman wrote:

JL:

Thanks for the suggestion but there were several posts early on saying that
it won't work.  And then there's the fact that v.7 is installed over v.6.

Kirsten

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Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 7:57 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs


Not Ron here, but in regards to expertise to go back to v.6.  I saw
some-one write today that geds don't export properly so that might not
work.  My idea was to export my database as a ged and import it back
into v.6.  That's very simple (if it works).
-
JL
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http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

Kirsten Bowman wrote:
  

Ron:

I know your main focus with Legacy is in maintaining your web page, but


just
  

imagine how frustrated you would be if you hadn't been able to do that


since
  

"upgrading" and didn't have the expertise to go back to v6.  That's the
pickle some of us are in now.  I would love to know a workaround for the
source repetitions in RTF reports and if you have one I'd be extremely
grateful because right now Legacy is worse than useless for me.

Kirsten








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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering New Zealand Locations

2008-09-01 Thread Dawn Crowley
*I don't have any NZ research to do.*  However, I would definitely want 
to differentiate between a region at some level and a city.


Wendy Howard wrote:


I agree with Rachel, to a point...

For places like Auckland and Wellington, two cities that are in 
regions of the same name, I don't bother with the repetition and just 
put "Auckland, New Zealand" and Wellington, New Zealand".


For other locations, do you want to take into consideration boundary 
changes over the years?  I tend not to bother, since this is such a 
small country it is usually pretty easy to find a place, and use 
whatever I consider to be common usage (such as Glenfield, Auckland, 
New Zealand for the place where I spent the first 12 years of my life).


Once upon a time the Auckland province extended all the way down past 
Taupo and Gisborne (roughly).  The provinces are long gone 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_New_Zealand), but Taupo was 
still in the Auckland province in 1952 (according to my copy of The 
New Zealand Guide), and in 1972 it was in the "Auckland Prov. Borough 
within Taupo County" (Wises New Zealand Guide, 5th edn).  These days 
the town of Taupo is in the Taupo District and the Waikato Region - 
neither of which I would personally mention in a Legacy location.  
Regardless of the date of the event being recorded, I would enter the 
location as Taupo, New Zealand.


I am happy to help with NZ-specific questions via the Rootsweb New 
Zealand list - 
http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NZL/NEW-ZEALAND.html - 
where I am a regular contributor.  Not privately, please.  :-)


Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard





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Re: [LegacyUG] flash drive for Legacy

2008-09-01 Thread JLB
I don't think U3 has any relevance to this use of a flash-drive, being a 
platform for various free and paid softwares.  I've bought several 
drives with U3 on them and just delete the whole sheebang and use the 
drive the way I want to.  If PortableApps are your thing, I'd recommend 
OpenSource PortableApps anyway.  I find U3 pretty junky.  Anyway, you 
don't need it for Legacy.

-
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Gary Templeman wrote:


It depends mostly on whether you have multimedia that you also want on 
the flash drive ( personally I would leave photos etc on the desktop). 
If the only use is for Legacy, you probably can't buy a drive that is 
too small nowadays. A quick check of one online supplier shows over a 
hundred drives over 1 GB and only 10 that are either 256 MB or 512 MB.


Since you can get 2 GB for under $10, 4 GB from $14 to 20, and 8 GB 
from $22 to 35, there is really no reason to skimp.


Another question to ask is whether to get a U3 drive or not. Someone 
else will have to explain the pros and cons to that decision.


Gary Templeman



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I just bought a laptop and am considering installing Legacy on a flash 
drive to use with the Laptop and then plug in to my desktop computer. 
I have 3 separate family files with a total of about 9,000 
individuals, any suggestions as to what size flash drive I'd need to 
operate Legacy on? Are

I hope this is not "off topic".
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread Linda McCauley
Ruth
Your problem with Event Defination "private" button not sticking might
be a misunderstanding on your part.  I have a particular event marked
private through the Master Event List but on each individual event the
Private button is not checked.  The event is correctly omitted from
reports.  I believe the Private button on the individual event is for
situations where you don't want every instance of an event private (so
you don't want to mark it through the Event Master List) but you want
the event private for a particular person(s)

Or to put it another way, the private button on the master event and
the one on the individual event are two separate fields.  One covers
every occurence of the event and the other covers only an individual
occurence of the event.

Linda


On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Ruth Nerud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ron, you already know my problems with the Descendent Book Report so I won't
> go into that. These are my newest problems.
>
> Marriage Information screen
> Clicked on Wording Option
> I don't know the spouse's name so I deleted the word someone
> He remarried, don't know that spouse's name so I deleted the word someone
> Should read: Luigi married and Luigi next married
> It reads Luigi married someone and Luigi next married (name unknown), a
> change I made a couple days ago. Must be a .usr file I need to delete, but
> which one?
> (The only way I can do a accurate Descendent Report is in .pdf and since I
> can't edit a .pdf I can't manually change the wording, thereby making the
> .pdf not usable.)
>
> In Name List Screen
> Highlighted one of my ancestors
> Clicked Edit tab
> Clicked the AKA and deleted it.
> Entire Name List went blank.
>
> I added a new source:
> View
> Master Lists
> Event Definition
> Add
> In the Enter an Event Name, etc. I typed Birth Doc. No. and checked the
> Private box
> The check mark doesn't stay. Every time I enter a Birth Doc. No. I have to
> manually check the Private box.
>
> I still don't feel I have the knowledge to do the Gedcom's of my files,
> delete Ver. 7 and download Ver. 6 and know that all my data will download
> into Ver. 6 correctly and fully. What to do? I'm an unhappy camper.
>
> Ruth



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread Ruth Nerud
Ron, you already know my problems with the Descendent Book Report so I won't 
go into that. These are my newest problems.


Marriage Information screen
Clicked on Wording Option
I don't know the spouse's name so I deleted the word someone
He remarried, don't know that spouse's name so I deleted the word someone
Should read: Luigi married and Luigi next married
It reads Luigi married someone and Luigi next married (name unknown), a 
change I made a couple days ago. Must be a .usr file I need to delete, but 
which one?
(The only way I can do a accurate Descendent Report is in .pdf and since I 
can't edit a .pdf I can't manually change the wording, thereby making the 
.pdf not usable.)


In Name List Screen
Highlighted one of my ancestors
Clicked Edit tab
Clicked the AKA and deleted it.
Entire Name List went blank.

I added a new source:
View
Master Lists
Event Definition
Add
In the Enter an Event Name, etc. I typed Birth Doc. No. and checked the 
Private box
The check mark doesn't stay. Every time I enter a Birth Doc. No. I have to 
manually check the Private box.


I still don't feel I have the knowledge to do the Gedcom's of my files, 
delete Ver. 7 and download Ver. 6 and know that all my data will download 
into Ver. 6 correctly and fully. What to do? I'm an unhappy camper.


Ruth
- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 7:07 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs



Ruth,

I know that you are a long time supporter of Legacy and like yourself I am 
aware of a number of bugs which still need to be resolved (and let's not 
forget the pressure which some members of this group applied to get V7 out). 
However, these have not prevented me from continuing to publish and update 
my web pages.


I have been careful only to move on a step-by-step basis. I have not done a 
bulk change of sources for example. I have the option set for the Source 
Writer and do not change this but I have only introduced the new formats for 
new entries. So far this has covered, all UK censuses, BMDs, Certificates, 
E-mails, Parish Registers and Personal. Whilst I have needed to fill in some 
of the boxes somewhat differently from the way they were intended I have not 
had problems. As time goes on I will slowly be transferring my existing 
sources to the new formats.


Which marriage screen have you been unable to change the overwrite wording 
in (and have we ever been able to)? It is not something I have found, but 
then I haven't wanted to either.


What check boxes are not sticking? - some weren't initially but I have not 
recently noticed this problem, so I took it that it had been resolved. The 
Help Index seems to me to be exactly the same as it was, apart from the 
addition of the new entries, and to date I have not had a problem with it.


Yes, I still hit problems, sometimes because it's just new and I have to 
work out how to do things properly and others because of a minor bug but I 
have consistanly managed to find a way of working round them.



Ron Ferguson

_


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:09:29 -0500

I have been such an advocate for Legacy in the past, but find its problems
with Ver. 7 and no knowledge of when they will be fixed makes me wonder -
has Legacy gotten so far ahead of itself that it's lost sight of what its
use is? If I can't produce a report that prints properly, if I can't check 
a

box and the check sticks, if I can't change the wording overwrite in the
marriage screen and have what I want said print in a document, all it's 
good

for is - me - to collect information. As it stands now I can't share
information with anyone. What good does the Geo location do me when I 
can't

produce a report. Source writer - my sources are fine - I didn't need
anything better. The Help index is so hard to use. I can't find the topic
I'm looking for Help with because the titles are beyond understanding. 
What
has happened to Legacy? It's become a huge disappointment for me. Can we 
get

back to the basic Legacy program and correct its bugs, please?

Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread Kirsten Bowman
JL:

Thanks for the suggestion but there were several posts early on saying that
it won't work.  And then there's the fact that v.7 is installed over v.6.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JLB
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 7:57 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs


Not Ron here, but in regards to expertise to go back to v.6.  I saw
some-one write today that geds don't export properly so that might not
work.  My idea was to export my database as a ged and import it back
into v.6.  That's very simple (if it works).
-
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

Kirsten Bowman wrote:
> Ron:
>
> I know your main focus with Legacy is in maintaining your web page, but
just
> imagine how frustrated you would be if you hadn't been able to do that
since
> "upgrading" and didn't have the expertise to go back to v6.  That's the
> pickle some of us are in now.  I would love to know a workaround for the
> source repetitions in RTF reports and if you have one I'd be extremely
> grateful because right now Legacy is worse than useless for me.
>
> Kirsten






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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering New Zealand Locations

2008-09-01 Thread Wendy Howard

I agree with Rachel, to a point...

For places like Auckland and Wellington, two cities that are in regions 
of the same name, I don't bother with the repetition and just put 
"Auckland, New Zealand" and Wellington, New Zealand".


For other locations, do you want to take into consideration boundary 
changes over the years?  I tend not to bother, since this is such a 
small country it is usually pretty easy to find a place, and use 
whatever I consider to be common usage (such as Glenfield, Auckland, New 
Zealand for the place where I spent the first 12 years of my life).


Once upon a time the Auckland province extended all the way down past 
Taupo and Gisborne (roughly).  The provinces are long gone 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_New_Zealand), but Taupo was 
still in the Auckland province in 1952 (according to my copy of The New 
Zealand Guide), and in 1972 it was in the "Auckland Prov. Borough within 
Taupo County" (Wises New Zealand Guide, 5th edn).  These days the town 
of Taupo is in the Taupo District and the Waikato Region - neither of 
which I would personally mention in a Legacy location.  Regardless of 
the date of the event being recorded, I would enter the location as 
Taupo, New Zealand.


I am happy to help with NZ-specific questions via the Rootsweb New 
Zealand list - 
http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NZL/NEW-ZEALAND.html - 
where I am a regular contributor.  Not privately, please.  :-)


Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
--
Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/ 



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*From:* "Rachel Alliston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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*Sent:* 09/02/2008 2:28:17 PM +1200
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Entering New Zealand Locations



From: "origins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote:-

: As a new user of Legacy I am interested to see how New Zealand users enter
: locations such as -
:
: Wellington
:
: Wanganui
:
: 

As a NZer now living in Australia I enter my NZ places eg:

Wellington, Wellington, New Zealand :
Palmerston North, Manawatu, New Zealand:
Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand:.
Martinborough, Wairarapa, New Zealand..

Suits my needs:-)

Rachel Alliston
Lake Macquarie, NSW, Australia




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread Rachel Alliston

- Original Message - 
Jeff wrote:-
:


: Someone else suggested going back to version 6, but in moving to version 7
: the database was modified and I am not sure it is possible to now go back 
to
: 6 except by using an older v6 backup.
:
: Jeff

Wouldn't creating a GEDCOM get you back?

Rachel
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread JLB
It's not possible to use the Legacy 7 database file to go back to v.6.  
I think only by exporting a gedcom.  Or retyping everything.  If you've 
only just started. 
-

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I agree with you Kate. That is not asking too much.

A number of software programs maintain a website where known bugs are 
listed and the dates they are rresolved.  Does anyone know if Legacy 
does anything like that?


Someone else suggested going back to version 6, but in moving to 
version 7 the database was modified and I am not sure it is possible 
to now go back to 6 except by using an older v6 backup.


Jeff

Thomas Herson wrote:

Kate,

All that due diligence doesn't help when the problems are caused by
bugs in the program, advertised features that aren't working, etc.
Legacy needs to be up front about the problems by letting us ALL know
when a bug has been discovered and letting us ALL know when it has
been fixed. We shouldn't be forced into a trial and error situation.

- Original Message -
From: "Kate Redford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs



Ron,

I appreciate your calm and logical approach for dealing with a new
program.
Your words proceeding with caution and in small increments are very
wise. If I remember correctly it took time, studying user manual,
viewing CD tutorials, and practice, practice, practice when I
switched from Vs, 5 to Vs. 6.  Do we call that due diligence in
genealogy? Good results in your gathering of data.

Cheers!

Kate Smith Redford
Salem, Oregon, USA


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
ronald ferguson
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 5:07 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs


I know that you are a long time supporter of Legacy and like
yourself I am aware of a number of bugs which still need to be
resolved (and let's not forget the pressure which some members of
this group applied to get V7 out).
However, these have not prevented me from continuing to publish and
update my web pages.

I have been careful only to move on a step-by-step basis. I have not
done a
bulk change of sources for example. I have the option set for the
Source Writer and do not change this but I have only introduced the
new formats for
new entries. So far this has covered, all UK censuses, BMDs,
Certificates, E-mails, Parish Registers and Personal. Whilst I have
needed to fill in some
of the boxes somewhat differently from the way they were intended I
have not
had problems. As time goes on I will slowly be transferring my
existing sources to the new formats.


Yes, I still hit problems, sometimes because it's just new and I
have to work out how to do things properly and others because of a
minor bug but I have consistanly managed to find a way of working
round them. Ron Ferguson

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread Rachel Alliston
From: "JLB" <

: Not Ron here, but in regards to expertise to go back to v.6.  I saw
: some-one write today that geds don't export properly so that might not
: work.  My idea was to export my database as a ged and import it back
: into v.6.  That's very simple (if it works).
: -
: JL
: JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
: http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
:
I just tried exported a Gedcom from 7 to 6 and I don't appear to have any 
issues.  My V7 is the standard edition and V6 is Delux..

Thought I'd better practise what I preach.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread Rachel Alliston

- Original Message - 
Jeff wrote:-
:


: Someone else suggested going back to version 6, but in moving to version 7
: the database was modified and I am not sure it is possible to now go back
to
: 6 except by using an older v6 backup.
:
: Jeff

Pardon my ignorance,  but wouldn't creating a GEDCOM get you back?:-)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I agree with you Kate. That is not asking too much.

A number of software programs maintain a website where known bugs are listed 
and the dates they are rresolved.  Does anyone know if Legacy does anything 
like that?


Someone else suggested going back to version 6, but in moving to version 7 
the database was modified and I am not sure it is possible to now go back to 
6 except by using an older v6 backup.


Jeff

Thomas Herson wrote:

Kate,

All that due diligence doesn't help when the problems are caused by
bugs in the program, advertised features that aren't working, etc.
Legacy needs to be up front about the problems by letting us ALL know
when a bug has been discovered and letting us ALL know when it has
been fixed. We shouldn't be forced into a trial and error situation.

- Original Message -
From: "Kate Redford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs



Ron,

I appreciate your calm and logical approach for dealing with a new
program.
Your words proceeding with caution and in small increments are very
wise. If I remember correctly it took time, studying user manual,
viewing CD tutorials, and practice, practice, practice when I
switched from Vs, 5 to Vs. 6.  Do we call that due diligence in
genealogy? Good results in your gathering of data.

Cheers!

Kate Smith Redford
Salem, Oregon, USA


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
ronald ferguson
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 5:07 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs


I know that you are a long time supporter of Legacy and like
yourself I am aware of a number of bugs which still need to be
resolved (and let's not forget the pressure which some members of
this group applied to get V7 out).
However, these have not prevented me from continuing to publish and
update my web pages.

I have been careful only to move on a step-by-step basis. I have not
done a
bulk change of sources for example. I have the option set for the
Source Writer and do not change this but I have only introduced the
new formats for
new entries. So far this has covered, all UK censuses, BMDs,
Certificates, E-mails, Parish Registers and Personal. Whilst I have
needed to fill in some
of the boxes somewhat differently from the way they were intended I
have not
had problems. As time goes on I will slowly be transferring my
existing sources to the new formats.


Yes, I still hit problems, sometimes because it's just new and I
have to work out how to do things properly and others because of a
minor bug but I have consistanly managed to find a way of working
round them. Ron Ferguson

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Re: [LegacyUG] flash drive for Legacy

2008-09-01 Thread Gary Templeman
It depends mostly on whether you have multimedia that you also want on the 
flash drive ( personally I would leave photos etc on the desktop). If the 
only use is for Legacy, you probably can't buy a drive that is too small 
nowadays. A quick check of one online supplier shows over a hundred drives 
over 1 GB and only 10 that are either 256 MB or 512 MB.


Since you can get 2 GB for under $10, 4 GB from $14 to 20, and 8 GB from $22 
to 35, there is really no reason to skimp.


Another question to ask is whether to get a U3 drive or not. Someone else 
will have to explain the pros and cons to that decision.


Gary Templeman



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Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 7:01 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] flash drive for Legacy


I just bought a laptop and am considering installing Legacy on a flash drive 
to use with the Laptop and then plug in to my desktop computer. I have 3 
separate family files with a total of about 9,000 individuals, any 
suggestions as to what size flash drive I'd need to operate Legacy on? Are

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread JLB
Not Ron here, but in regards to expertise to go back to v.6.  I saw 
some-one write today that geds don't export properly so that might not 
work.  My idea was to export my database as a ged and import it back 
into v.6.  That's very simple (if it works).

-
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Kirsten Bowman wrote:

Ron:

I know your main focus with Legacy is in maintaining your web page, but just
imagine how frustrated you would be if you hadn't been able to do that since
"upgrading" and didn't have the expertise to go back to v6.  That's the
pickle some of us are in now.  I would love to know a workaround for the
source repetitions in RTF reports and if you have one I'd be extremely
grateful because right now Legacy is worse than useless for me.

Kirsten

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ferguson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread GeoSci
Advice or help is appreciated.  Belittling others shows your own
insecurity or lack of social training.  Lets stick to questions and
possible solutions.

Thanks
Keith

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Thomas Herson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We shouldn't have to work around Legacy problems, Ron. We all know by now
> that you have no interest in following the instructions and are quick to
> respond, sometimes incorrectly, to almost every problem cite, always acting
> as a sycophant for the Legacy people.
>
> - Original Message - From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 8:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs
>
>
>
> Ruth,
>
> I know that you are a long time supporter of Legacy and like yourself I am
> aware of a number of bugs which still need to be resolved (and let's not
> forget the pressure which some members of this group applied to get V7 out).
> However, these have not prevented me from continuing to publish and update
> my web pages.
>
> I have been careful only to move on a step-by-step basis. I have not done a
> bulk change of sources for example. I have the option set for the Source
> Writer and do not change this but I have only introduced the new formats for
> new entries. So far this has covered, all UK censuses, BMDs, Certificates,
> E-mails, Parish Registers and Personal. Whilst I have needed to fill in some
> of the boxes somewhat differently from the way they were intended I have not
> had problems. As time goes on I will slowly be transferring my existing
> sources to the new formats.
>
> Which marriage screen have you been unable to change the overwrite wording
> in (and have we ever been able to)? It is not something I have found, but
> then I haven't wanted to either.
>
> What check boxes are not sticking? - some weren't initially but I have not
> recently noticed this problem, so I took it that it had been resolved. The
> Help Index seems to me to be exactly the same as it was, apart from the
> addition of the new entries, and to date I have not had a problem with it.
>
> Yes, I still hit problems, sometimes because it's just new and I have to
> work out how to do things properly and others because of a minor bug but I
> have consistanly managed to find a way of working round them.
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
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> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
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>
>
>
>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs
>> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:09:29 -0500
>>
>> I have been such an advocate for Legacy in the past, but find its problems
>> with Ver. 7 and no knowledge of when they will be fixed makes me wonder -
>> has Legacy gotten so far ahead of itself that it's lost sight of what its
>> use is? If I can't produce a report that prints properly, if I can't check
>> a
>> box and the check sticks, if I can't change the wording overwrite in the
>> marriage screen and have what I want said print in a document, all it's
>> good
>> for is - me - to collect information. As it stands now I can't share
>> information with anyone. What good does the Geo location do me when I
>> can't
>> produce a report. Source writer - my sources are fine - I didn't need
>> anything better. The Help index is so hard to use. I can't find the topic
>> I'm looking for Help with because the titles are beyond understanding.
>> What
>> has happened to Legacy? It's become a huge disappointment for me. Can we
>> get
>> back to the basic Legacy program and correct its bugs, please?
>>
>> Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] flash drive for Legacy

2008-09-01 Thread Robert Carneal
The good news is you can put your family information on flash drives. 
The best way I know to determine the size you need is to put look at 
the size on your hard drive, and get a flash drive bigger than that. 
Also, the good news is you can take your information from one 
computer to another computer that has Legacy, but be careful. If you 
have the latest version, and the library you are going to happens to 
have Legacy 4 for example, the date formats will be so different that 
Legacy 4 won't be able to open your family file.


The bad news is you just cannot put Legacy itself on a flash drive. 
It needs to be installed on the hard drive.


Robert

At 2008-09-01  09:01 PM, you wrote:
I just bought a laptop and am considering installing Legacy on a 
flash drive to use with the Laptop and then plug in to my desktop 
computer.  I have 3 separate family files with a total of about 
9,000 individuals, any suggestions as to what size flash drive I'd 
need to operate Legacy on?   Are

I hope this is not "off topic".
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread Dan Bateham

Hey Ron,

Some days it doesn't pay to be the nice guy and try to help some folks. Some 
folks would rather complain, belittle, and whine.
Keep up the good work, anyway, Ron. You are much appreciated by the mostly 
silent majority.


In the mean, I'm sure the folks at Millennia are busy working on things for 
us all.


Highest regards,
Dan Bateham

- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Herson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs


We shouldn't have to work around Legacy problems, Ron. We all know by now 
that you have no interest in following the instructions and are quick to 
respond, sometimes incorrectly, to almost every problem cite, always 
acting as a sycophant for the Legacy people.


- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 8:07 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs



Ruth,

I know that you are a long time supporter of Legacy and like yourself I am 
aware of a number of bugs which still need to be resolved (and let's not 
forget the pressure which some members of this group applied to get V7 
out). However, these have not prevented me from continuing to publish and 
update my web pages.


I have been careful only to move on a step-by-step basis. I have not done 
a bulk change of sources for example. I have the option set for the Source 
Writer and do not change this but I have only introduced the new formats 
for new entries. So far this has covered, all UK censuses, BMDs, 
Certificates, E-mails, Parish Registers and Personal. Whilst I have needed 
to fill in some of the boxes somewhat differently from the way they were 
intended I have not had problems. As time goes on I will slowly be 
transferring my existing sources to the new formats.


Which marriage screen have you been unable to change the overwrite wording 
in (and have we ever been able to)? It is not something I have found, but 
then I haven't wanted to either.


What check boxes are not sticking? - some weren't initially but I have not 
recently noticed this problem, so I took it that it had been resolved. The 
Help Index seems to me to be exactly the same as it was, apart from the 
addition of the new entries, and to date I have not had a problem with it.


Yes, I still hit problems, sometimes because it's just new and I have to 
work out how to do things properly and others because of a minor bug but I 
have consistanly managed to find a way of working round them.



Ron Ferguson

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:09:29 -0500

I have been such an advocate for Legacy in the past, but find its 
problems

with Ver. 7 and no knowledge of when they will be fixed makes me wonder -
has Legacy gotten so far ahead of itself that it's lost sight of what its
use is? If I can't produce a report that prints properly, if I can't 
check a

box and the check sticks, if I can't change the wording overwrite in the
marriage screen and have what I want said print in a document, all it's 
good

for is - me - to collect information. As it stands now I can't share
information with anyone. What good does the Geo location do me when I 
can't

produce a report. Source writer - my sources are fine - I didn't need
anything better. The Help index is so hard to use. I can't find the topic
I'm looking for Help with because the titles are beyond understanding. 
What
has happened to Legacy? It's become a huge disappointment for me. Can we 
get

back to the basic Legacy program and correct its bugs, please?

Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







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Re: [LegacyUG] flash drive for Legacy

2008-09-01 Thread Darlene & Don Hicks
Sybil,

   I have an 8 GB flash drive with Mojopac installed, and the drive runs just 
like having another C drive.  It is the best thing I have ever done for my 
genealogy.  I have my main computer, my external hard drive, and now this flash 
drive.  It is really easy to back up Legacy in all three places or run from all 
three places.   :-D  I have 16,000 people in my database!  

Darlene
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--- On Mon, 9/1/08, Syble Glasscock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Syble Glasscock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [LegacyUG] flash drive for Legacy
> To: "Legacy User Group" 
> Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 9:01 PM
> I just bought a laptop and am considering installing Legacy
> on a flash drive to use with the Laptop and then plug in to
> my desktop computer.  I have 3 separate family files with a
> total of about 9,000 individuals, any suggestions as to what
> size flash drive I'd need to operate Legacy on?   Are 
> I hope this is not "off topic".
> Syble Glasscock
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Re: [LegacyUG] flash drive for Legacy

2008-09-01 Thread JLB
I believe the easiest thing would be to copy your entire Legacy 
installation to the flash-drive.  After you install it on both 
computers.  You can't install Legacy on a flash-drive but you can run 
the files from it.  You may have pictures linked there or source 
documents.  I don't know where you keep those.   If you go down to its 
location: in Windows that might be under C:\Legacy depending where you 
installed it, then right click, click Properties and it will tell you 
how big it is.  Mine is about 500 MB but I don't keep many pictures there.

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Syble Glasscock wrote:
I just bought a laptop and am considering installing Legacy on a flash 
drive to use with the Laptop and then plug in to my desktop computer.  
I have 3 separate family files with a total of about 9,000 
individuals, any suggestions as to what size flash drive I'd need to 
operate Legacy on?   Are

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Ron:

I know your main focus with Legacy is in maintaining your web page, but just
imagine how frustrated you would be if you hadn't been able to do that since
"upgrading" and didn't have the expertise to go back to v6.  That's the
pickle some of us are in now.  I would love to know a workaround for the
source repetitions in RTF reports and if you have one I'd be extremely
grateful because right now Legacy is worse than useless for me.

Kirsten

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ferguson
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 5:07 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs



Ruth,

I know that you are a long time supporter of Legacy and like yourself I am
aware of a number of bugs which still need to be resolved (and let's not
forget the pressure which some members of this group applied to get V7 out).
However, these have not prevented me from continuing to publish and update
my web pages.

I have been careful only to move on a step-by-step basis. I have not done a
bulk change of sources for example. I have the option set for the Source
Writer and do not change this but I have only introduced the new formats for
new entries. So far this has covered, all UK censuses, BMDs, Certificates,
E-mails, Parish Registers and Personal. Whilst I have needed to fill in some
of the boxes somewhat differently from the way they were intended I have not
had problems. As time goes on I will slowly be transferring my existing
sources to the new formats.

Which marriage screen have you been unable to change the overwrite wording
in (and have we ever been able to)? It is not something I have found, but
then I haven't wanted to either.

What check boxes are not sticking? - some weren't initially but I have not
recently noticed this problem, so I took it that it had been resolved. The
Help Index seems to me to be exactly the same as it was, apart from the
addition of the new entries, and to date I have not had a problem with it.

Yes, I still hit problems, sometimes because it's just new and I have to
work out how to do things properly and others because of a minor bug but I
have consistanly managed to find a way of working round them.


Ron Ferguson

_

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http://www.fergys.co.uk
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs
> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:09:29 -0500
>
> I have been such an advocate for Legacy in the past, but find its problems
> with Ver. 7 and no knowledge of when they will be fixed makes me wonder -
> has Legacy gotten so far ahead of itself that it's lost sight of what its
> use is? If I can't produce a report that prints properly, if I can't check
a
> box and the check sticks, if I can't change the wording overwrite in the
> marriage screen and have what I want said print in a document, all it's
good
> for is - me - to collect information. As it stands now I can't share
> information with anyone. What good does the Geo location do me when I
can't
> produce a report. Source writer - my sources are fine - I didn't need
> anything better. The Help index is so hard to use. I can't find the topic
> I'm looking for Help with because the titles are beyond understanding.
What
> has happened to Legacy? It's become a huge disappointment for me. Can we
get
> back to the basic Legacy program and correct its bugs, please?
>
> Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>






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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering New Zealand Locations

2008-09-01 Thread Rachel Alliston

From: "origins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote:-

: As a new user of Legacy I am interested to see how New Zealand users enter
: locations such as -
:
: Wellington
:
: Wanganui
:
: 

As a NZer now living in Australia I enter my NZ places eg:

Wellington, Wellington, New Zealand :
Palmerston North, Manawatu, New Zealand:
Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand:.
Martinborough, Wairarapa, New Zealand..

Suits my needs:-)

Rachel Alliston
Lake Macquarie, NSW, Australia





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[LegacyUG] Problem launching V6

2008-09-01 Thread Gene Wheeler
I'm using V6 and when I start it up this evening, instead of seeing 
the splash screen and then opening in the Family View with the last 
used family (as I specified in Customize), it opens the splash screen 
then opens up the "Set Report Fonts" window.  When I close this 
window, I get a "Legacy Warning Message" saying Legacy can't find any 
printer defined for use with Windows..., etc."  When I then click 
"OK", Legacy opens as it should.  This problem occurred 
spontaneously, after I had used Legacy three times earlier in the day 
without this problem surfacing.  Now it occurs each time.


In addition, I've also noted that a change to font selections in the 
Customize page, after saving, do not "stick".  I changed the font 
from Times Roman to Arial for both the Data and Notes, Save then 
close Customize, and the fonts are correct.  The next time I start up 
Legacy, they are both back to Times Roman.  I wonder if these two 
issues may be connected?


I have run all the file maintenance routines, but no joy.  Any ideas 
or suggestions?


Thanks, Gene
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[LegacyUG] flash drive for Legacy

2008-09-01 Thread Syble Glasscock
I just bought a laptop and am considering installing Legacy on a flash drive to 
use with the Laptop and then plug in to my desktop computer.  I have 3 separate 
family files with a total of about 9,000 individuals, any suggestions as to 
what size flash drive I'd need to operate Legacy on?   Are 
I hope this is not "off topic".
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Re: [LegacyUG] Input of Cemetery Names

2008-09-01 Thread Syble Glasscock
I'm glad to hear that others are concerned about the cemetery names, lot 
numbers, and all information that is on the tombstones.  I ignore the Legacy 
standards for this, when known, I include the cemetery name, lot/block number/, 
name of town, county, state, country.  Being able to include the GPS  in the 
location field will be great also.  The more information recorded, the easier 
it is for the next researcher.  We've also had problems with vandals in some of 
our local cemeteries, and good documentation can certainly help in verifying 
the original stone information.
 
Syble Glasscock

--- On Mon, 9/1/08, Allison Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Allison Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Input of Cemetery Names
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 2:19 PM

That works too.  Only problem then is what if you want to do a
Cemetery report, showing all known cemetery locations.  I keep photos
(with LOT # and GPS info etc, in the Adobe Photoshop metadata), and my
monument photos are all in one folder called Tombstones, so I can see
all the monuments easily, but they are not in order by name or RIN #.
I wish that Legacy would simply add the fields we need, allow the
addition of these fields to the Individuals Record screen, and then
make a nice neat report to go with them.  I agree GPS is not that
accurate but it helps get you in the area of the lots.

Allison

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Bruce Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I do my cemetery locations similar but add the Plot-Block-Lot in
parentheses
> Salt Lake City Cemetery (E-8-1)
> I have multiple ancestors buried in 7 different plot/block/lots in this
> cemetery.  I tag all locations in that (or all) cemetery(ies) then create
a
> location report using just tagged locations and it shows all relatives in
> each plot/block/lot.  I put the latitude & longitude on the location
rather
> than for each gravestone.
> I found that once I am at the correct plot/block/lot (by using either a
map
> or a GPS) that I can find the gravestones visually better than using a GPS
> device for each gravestone (GPS devices are not quite THAT accurate).
> So my report looks like this:
> Name: Salt Lake City Cemetery (E.8.1), Salt Lake, Utah, USA
> Lat/Long: N404635.1, W1115140
> Used by: 1. George Barnes {46] (21 Nov 1885-21 Nov 1885)
>   2. Mary Ann LEWIS [118] (16 Oct 1835-29 Sep 1906
>   3.
> etc.
> (Since the cemetery name contains the name of the city, I don't put
the city
> in my master location)
> Just my way of doing it.
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Janis L Gilmore
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Allison,
>>
>> I agree that the burial day is not particularly useful, and that I
want to
>> see the burial place on the main screen.
>>
>> My solution has been to adopt someone else's idea on this list
(wish I
>> could
>> credit the source, but can't remember). I enter the place like
this:
>>
>> Mountain View-Chapel Hill Cemetery, Howell County, Missouri, USA
>>
>> That way, cemeteries for a certain locale all sort with the locale,
and
>> there isn't an extra field thrown in. If there is no town, it
would look
>> like this:
>>
>> , Howell County-Chapel Hill, Missouri, USA
>>
>> The full particulars (location of cemetery, etc) would be in the
source
>> for
>> the data.
>>
>> Janis Walker Gilmore
>>
>>
>> On 8/31/08 9:26 AM, "Allison Nelson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > I am working in Legacy 6 still,  partly because they added stuff
I
>> > will never use, and they failed to address problems like this
one.
>> > This should be a simple straight forward thing to enter!
>> >
>> > I have asked Legacy a few times to put specific fields in place
for
>> > the Cemetery Name, and Location (in my books this is the village,
town
>> > or city that the cemetery is in).  Secondary information such as
the
>> > Lot numbers, GPS location, cemetery managements address
information,
>> > and Notes should all appear as standard entries, and all of this
>> > should be sourced as usual.
>> >
>> > At present I fake it...and use the Buried fields as follows:
>> >
>> > Buried:  Evergreen Memorial Park   In: Moncton, New Brunswick,
CANADA
>> >
>> > An error message comes up saying I have the wrong type of
information
>> > in the Buried field.  (I entered a cemetery name instead of a
>> > date...Legacy forbid!) and I simply ignore the error message and
hit
>> > cancel.  This way I can see on my individuals screen.  In my
humble
>> > opinion, no one really cares what day the deceased was physically
put
>> > in the ground... we do care where they were buried.
>> >
>> > I do feel somewhat qualified to speak about the importance of our
>> > cemeteries, where someone is buried, how to find the graves, and
the
>> > importance of a good old fashioned monument (preferably made out
of
>> > granite for longevity).  I have been worked in the monument
industry
>> > for 29 years and am currently writing publi

RE: [LegacyUG] TMG

2008-09-01 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Michele:

Given the current problems with v7, I doubt that you'd be doing your cousin
any favors by pressing for a switch to Legacy right now.  As Bruce (I think)
said, the biggest advantage to TMG is that it works.  Legacy6 was great;
Legacy7 is broken.

Kirsten

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Lewis
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 11:12 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG


I went from FTM maker to Legacy and don't regret it for one minute (I
switched about 4 years ago).  My cousin is using TMG and I want some ammo to
get her to switch to Legacy but I didn't know enough about TMG to know WHY
Legacy is so much better :)

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Ruth:

I'm with you and JL.  For almost three months I've been unable to produce a
usable GEDCOM or a decent sourced RTF report.  Most of that time I was in
the "Keep The Faith" camp; now I'm moving to the "Very Disgruntled Customer"
group.  But what are the options?

I've learned two valuable lessons here:  No more touting of Legacy for me,
and no more upgrading until a new release has been out for a very long time.

Kirsten


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Nerud
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 4:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs


I have been such an advocate for Legacy in the past, but find its problems
with Ver. 7 and no knowledge of when they will be fixed makes me wonder -
has Legacy gotten so far ahead of itself that it's lost sight of what its
use is? If I can't produce a report that prints properly, if I can't check a
box and the check sticks, if I can't change the wording overwrite in the
marriage screen and have what I want said print in a document, all it's good
for is - me - to collect information. As it stands now I can't share
information with anyone. What good does the Geo location do me when I can't
produce a report. Source writer - my sources are fine - I didn't need
anything better. The Help index is so hard to use. I can't find the topic
I'm looking for Help with because the titles are beyond understanding. What
has happened to Legacy? It's become a huge disappointment for me. Can we get
back to the basic Legacy program and correct its bugs, please?

Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread Thomas Herson

Kate,

All that due diligence doesn't help when the problems are caused by bugs in 
the program, advertised features that aren't working, etc. Legacy needs to 
be up front about the problems by letting us ALL know when a bug has been 
discovered and letting us ALL know when it has been fixed. We shouldn't be 
forced into a trial and error situation.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kate Redford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs



Ron,

I appreciate your calm and logical approach for dealing with a new 
program.

Your words proceeding with caution and in small increments are very wise.
If I remember correctly it took time, studying user manual, viewing CD
tutorials, and practice, practice, practice when I switched from Vs, 5 to
Vs. 6.  Do we call that due diligence in genealogy?

Good results in your gathering of data.

Cheers!

Kate Smith Redford
Salem, Oregon, USA


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ferguson
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 5:07 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs


I know that you are a long time supporter of Legacy and like yourself I am
aware of a number of bugs which still need to be resolved (and let's not
forget the pressure which some members of this group applied to get V7 
out).

However, these have not prevented me from continuing to publish and update
my web pages.

I have been careful only to move on a step-by-step basis. I have not done 
a

bulk change of sources for example. I have the option set for the Source
Writer and do not change this but I have only introduced the new formats 
for

new entries. So far this has covered, all UK censuses, BMDs, Certificates,
E-mails, Parish Registers and Personal. Whilst I have needed to fill in 
some
of the boxes somewhat differently from the way they were intended I have 
not

had problems. As time goes on I will slowly be transferring my existing
sources to the new formats.


Yes, I still hit problems, sometimes because it's just new and I have to
work out how to do things properly and others because of a minor bug but I
have consistanly managed to find a way of working round them.


Ron Ferguson

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread Kate Redford
Ron,

I appreciate your calm and logical approach for dealing with a new program.
Your words proceeding with caution and in small increments are very wise.
If I remember correctly it took time, studying user manual, viewing CD
tutorials, and practice, practice, practice when I switched from Vs, 5 to
Vs. 6.  Do we call that due diligence in genealogy?

Good results in your gathering of data.

Cheers!

Kate Smith Redford
Salem, Oregon, USA


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
ferguson
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 5:07 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs


I know that you are a long time supporter of Legacy and like yourself I am
aware of a number of bugs which still need to be resolved (and let's not
forget the pressure which some members of this group applied to get V7 out).
However, these have not prevented me from continuing to publish and update
my web pages.

I have been careful only to move on a step-by-step basis. I have not done a
bulk change of sources for example. I have the option set for the Source
Writer and do not change this but I have only introduced the new formats for
new entries. So far this has covered, all UK censuses, BMDs, Certificates,
E-mails, Parish Registers and Personal. Whilst I have needed to fill in some
of the boxes somewhat differently from the way they were intended I have not
had problems. As time goes on I will slowly be transferring my existing
sources to the new formats.


Yes, I still hit problems, sometimes because it's just new and I have to
work out how to do things properly and others because of a minor bug but I
have consistanly managed to find a way of working round them.


Ron Ferguson

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread Thomas Herson
We shouldn't have to work around Legacy problems, Ron. We all know by now 
that you have no interest in following the instructions and are quick to 
respond, sometimes incorrectly, to almost every problem cite, always acting 
as a sycophant for the Legacy people.


- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 8:07 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs



Ruth,

I know that you are a long time supporter of Legacy and like yourself I am 
aware of a number of bugs which still need to be resolved (and let's not 
forget the pressure which some members of this group applied to get V7 out). 
However, these have not prevented me from continuing to publish and update 
my web pages.


I have been careful only to move on a step-by-step basis. I have not done a 
bulk change of sources for example. I have the option set for the Source 
Writer and do not change this but I have only introduced the new formats for 
new entries. So far this has covered, all UK censuses, BMDs, Certificates, 
E-mails, Parish Registers and Personal. Whilst I have needed to fill in some 
of the boxes somewhat differently from the way they were intended I have not 
had problems. As time goes on I will slowly be transferring my existing 
sources to the new formats.


Which marriage screen have you been unable to change the overwrite wording 
in (and have we ever been able to)? It is not something I have found, but 
then I haven't wanted to either.


What check boxes are not sticking? - some weren't initially but I have not 
recently noticed this problem, so I took it that it had been resolved. The 
Help Index seems to me to be exactly the same as it was, apart from the 
addition of the new entries, and to date I have not had a problem with it.


Yes, I still hit problems, sometimes because it's just new and I have to 
work out how to do things properly and others because of a minor bug but I 
have consistanly managed to find a way of working round them.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:09:29 -0500

I have been such an advocate for Legacy in the past, but find its problems
with Ver. 7 and no knowledge of when they will be fixed makes me wonder -
has Legacy gotten so far ahead of itself that it's lost sight of what its
use is? If I can't produce a report that prints properly, if I can't check 
a

box and the check sticks, if I can't change the wording overwrite in the
marriage screen and have what I want said print in a document, all it's 
good

for is - me - to collect information. As it stands now I can't share
information with anyone. What good does the Geo location do me when I 
can't

produce a report. Source writer - my sources are fine - I didn't need
anything better. The Help index is so hard to use. I can't find the topic
I'm looking for Help with because the titles are beyond understanding. 
What
has happened to Legacy? It's become a huge disappointment for me. Can we 
get

back to the basic Legacy program and correct its bugs, please?

Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG

2008-09-01 Thread Wynthner
TMG=The Master Genealogist 



- Original Message 
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Sent: Monday, September 1, 2008 7:46:46 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG


Guess this is a strange question but was is TMG?

M.


  



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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG

2008-09-01 Thread Elizabeth Heinzman-Denes

The Master Genealogist.  Another genealogy program which is a lot more 
complicated than Legacy.


Elizabeth


> Guess this is a strange question but was is TMG?
> 
> M.
> 



  



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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG

2008-09-01 Thread Dawn Crowley
The Master Genealogist 
The biggest difference between it and other genealogy software seems to 
be that it is event-based, rather than relationship-based. 


M Stowe wrote:


Guess this is a strange question but was is TMG?

M.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Bruce McArthur 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 
wrote:


Hi

It's me again - the lurker and lumper.

I hate to defend TMG because it is slow and old fashioned in its
user interface but it does have one advantage over Legacy that
this group has highlighted for me.  That is it all works.  The
latest version of Legacy appears to me to be full of bugs in
crucial areas notably the new source writer.  Also I have just
spent a few hours messing about with this very attractive feature
with a gedcom imported from TMG and it is not possible to merge an
imported source with a similar source created by the source writer
without losing the imported source detail.  Consequently it would
be a major rewrite to move from TMG to Legacy for me as I am a
source lumper and have about 1 people in my tree.  Assuming
each person features in 2 or 3 censuses on average for example
there is 20-3 source details I would have to recreate just for
starters.  Perhaps that is something your cousin should consider.
 It's certainly putting me off.

As for the software comparison table I never believe
self-publicity - I believe there is a similar table on the Wholly
Genes website!  And who uses the alarm clock anyway?  TMG has
unlimited nameable flags (tags) which can take multiple one
character values which is a far superior system to Legacy but the
table just says tags = yes for both programs.  Also the main
person screen shows all the applicable events and related people
so you don't have to click in different places to see them.  One
of the best features of TMG is a sister program called Second Site
which is a customisable web site creation tool which operates
directly on the TMG database and is far superior to the Legacy web
page facility.

To be fair I like the way Legacy is fast, the source writer will
be fantastic when it is finished and working and I like the
mapping feature although it would be a mountainous amount of
effort to use it as it doesn't recognise most of my locations
unless I prod it hard.  The Research Guidance is too US oriented
to be of much use to me and anyway I prefer to think for myself.

Still lurking and pondering but maybe the grass isn't always greener.

regards

Bruce McArthur
Newcastle upon Tyne
Northumberland
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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG

2008-09-01 Thread Dawn Crowley

The Master Genealogist

M Stowe wrote:


Guess this is a strange question but was is TMG?

M.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Bruce McArthur 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 
wrote:


Hi

It's me again - the lurker and lumper.

I hate to defend TMG because it is slow and old fashioned in its
user interface but it does have one advantage over Legacy that
this group has highlighted for me.  That is it all works.  The
latest version of Legacy appears to me to be full of bugs in
crucial areas notably the new source writer.  Also I have just
spent a few hours messing about with this very attractive feature
with a gedcom imported from TMG and it is not possible to merge an
imported source with a similar source created by the source writer
without losing the imported source detail.  Consequently it would
be a major rewrite to move from TMG to Legacy for me as I am a
source lumper and have about 1 people in my tree.  Assuming
each person features in 2 or 3 censuses on average for example
there is 20-3 source details I would have to recreate just for
starters.  Perhaps that is something your cousin should consider.
 It's certainly putting me off.

As for the software comparison table I never believe
self-publicity - I believe there is a similar table on the Wholly
Genes website!  And who uses the alarm clock anyway?  TMG has
unlimited nameable flags (tags) which can take multiple one
character values which is a far superior system to Legacy but the
table just says tags = yes for both programs.  Also the main
person screen shows all the applicable events and related people
so you don't have to click in different places to see them.  One
of the best features of TMG is a sister program called Second Site
which is a customisable web site creation tool which operates
directly on the TMG database and is far superior to the Legacy web
page facility.

To be fair I like the way Legacy is fast, the source writer will
be fantastic when it is finished and working and I like the
mapping feature although it would be a mountainous amount of
effort to use it as it doesn't recognise most of my locations
unless I prod it hard.  The Research Guidance is too US oriented
to be of much use to me and anyway I prefer to think for myself.

Still lurking and pondering but maybe the grass isn't always greener.

regards

Bruce McArthur
Newcastle upon Tyne
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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG

2008-09-01 Thread M Stowe
Guess this is a strange question but was is TMG?

M.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Bruce McArthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Hi
>
> It's me again - the lurker and lumper.
>
> I hate to defend TMG because it is slow and old fashioned in its user
> interface but it does have one advantage over Legacy that this group has
> highlighted for me.  That is it all works.  The latest version of Legacy
> appears to me to be full of bugs in crucial areas notably the new source
> writer.  Also I have just spent a few hours messing about with this very
> attractive feature with a gedcom imported from TMG and it is not possible to
> merge an imported source with a similar source created by the source writer
> without losing the imported source detail.  Consequently it would be a major
> rewrite to move from TMG to Legacy for me as I am a source lumper and have
> about 1 people in my tree.  Assuming each person features in 2 or 3
> censuses on average for example there is 20-3 source details I would
> have to recreate just for starters.  Perhaps that is something your cousin
> should consider.  It's certainly putting me off.
>
> As for the software comparison table I never believe self-publicity - I
> believe there is a similar table on the Wholly Genes website!  And who uses
> the alarm clock anyway?  TMG has unlimited nameable flags (tags) which can
> take multiple one character values which is a far superior system to Legacy
> but the table just says tags = yes for both programs.  Also the main person
> screen shows all the applicable events and related people so you don't have
> to click in different places to see them.  One of the best features of TMG
> is a sister program called Second Site which is a customisable web site
> creation tool which operates directly on the TMG database and is far
> superior to the Legacy web page facility.
>
> To be fair I like the way Legacy is fast, the source writer will be
> fantastic when it is finished and working and I like the mapping feature
> although it would be a mountainous amount of effort to use it as it doesn't
> recognise most of my locations unless I prod it hard.  The Research Guidance
> is too US oriented to be of much use to me and anyway I prefer to think for
> myself.
>
> Still lurking and pondering but maybe the grass isn't always greener.
>
> regards
>
> Bruce McArthur
> Newcastle upon Tyne
> Northumberland
> England
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Entering New Zealand Locations

2008-09-01 Thread origins


As a new user of Legacy I am interested to see how New Zealand users enter 
locations such as -


Wellington

Wanganui

Marton

Raetihi

Taupo

Te Kuiti

Levin
- enough for now.

Is there a useful atlas, gazeteer, etc that can be used?




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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread ronald ferguson

Ruth,

I know that you are a long time supporter of Legacy and like yourself I am 
aware of a number of bugs which still need to be resolved (and let's not forget 
the pressure which some members of this group applied to get V7 out). However, 
these have not prevented me from continuing to publish and update my web pages.

I have been careful only to move on a step-by-step basis. I have not done a 
bulk change of sources for example. I have the option set for the Source Writer 
and do not change this but I have only introduced the new formats for new 
entries. So far this has covered, all UK censuses, BMDs, Certificates, E-mails, 
Parish Registers and Personal. Whilst I have needed to fill in some of the 
boxes somewhat differently from the way they were intended I have not had 
problems. As time goes on I will slowly be transferring my existing sources to 
the new formats.

Which marriage screen have you been unable to change the overwrite wording in 
(and have we ever been able to)? It is not something I have found, but then I 
haven't wanted to either.

What check boxes are not sticking? - some weren't initially but I have not 
recently noticed this problem, so I took it that it had been resolved. The Help 
Index seems to me to be exactly the same as it was, apart from the addition of 
the new entries, and to date I have not had a problem with it.

Yes, I still hit problems, sometimes because it's just new and I have to work 
out how to do things properly and others because of a minor bug but I have 
consistanly managed to find a way of working round them.


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs
> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:09:29 -0500
>
> I have been such an advocate for Legacy in the past, but find its problems
> with Ver. 7 and no knowledge of when they will be fixed makes me wonder -
> has Legacy gotten so far ahead of itself that it's lost sight of what its
> use is? If I can't produce a report that prints properly, if I can't check a
> box and the check sticks, if I can't change the wording overwrite in the
> marriage screen and have what I want said print in a document, all it's good
> for is - me - to collect information. As it stands now I can't share
> information with anyone. What good does the Geo location do me when I can't
> produce a report. Source writer - my sources are fine - I didn't need
> anything better. The Help index is so hard to use. I can't find the topic
> I'm looking for Help with because the titles are beyond understanding. What
> has happened to Legacy? It's become a huge disappointment for me. Can we get
> back to the basic Legacy program and correct its bugs, please?
>
> Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread JLB
It's hard to know what's going on over there (in the backroom at Legacy) 
as they've been so quiet since the confusion surrounding the release of 
v.7.  I suppose you've contemplated the possibility of going back to 
v.6?  I have.  It seemed a simpler, happier and saner place.  v.7 seems 
to me like a giant make-work project - change all your sources, change 
all your locations so you can stick pins on maps. I've enjoyed using the 
new Search options although I've found bugs in that too - nothing I 
can't ignore. It's possible to turn off the changes in Locations and 
Sources so it pretty much looks like v.6.  Sort of.  I'm not trying to 
print out any reports with the attention to detail that I've heard 
people remarking about so I can't comment on that.  Am personally having 
smaller problems, like the vertical divider in the Name List sliding 
around, not liking the look of the new Source Detail window or the way 
the bottom of the Assigned Sources window has been split up, with the 
File ID number not showing anymore without having to tick a button 
*/every single time/*, that sort of thing.  There's a discomfort level I 
haven't settled into yet.  I'm trying to ignore it all and carry on as 
if v.7 never happened.  What /are/ they doing over there?

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Ruth Nerud wrote:


I have been such an advocate for Legacy in the past, but find its 
problems with Ver. 7 and no knowledge of when they will be fixed makes 
me wonder - has Legacy gotten so far ahead of itself that it's lost 
sight of what its use is? If I can't produce a report that prints 
properly, if I can't check a box and the check sticks, if I can't 
change the wording overwrite in the marriage screen and have what I 
want said print in a document, all it's good for is - me - to collect 
information. As it stands now I can't share information with anyone. 
What good does the Geo location do me when I can't produce a report. 
Source writer - my sources are fine - I didn't need anything better. 
The Help index is so hard to use. I can't find the topic I'm looking 
for Help with because the titles are beyond understanding. What has 
happened to Legacy? It's become a huge disappointment for me. Can we 
get back to the basic Legacy program and correct its bugs, please?


Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG

2008-09-01 Thread Wynthner


There is also the use of witnesses. 
The witnesses in TMG do not transfer to GEDCOM and if the cousin has used them 
to a great extent it would be a major work to re-do them somehow in Legacy.

I do like one report Legacy does better than the same TMG report...
The Kinship /Relatives Report in Alpha order rather than kinship order.
The only thing I don't like is that Legace limits to 999 people. {sigh}

- Original Message 
From: Bruce McArthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, September 1, 2008 3:35:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG

Hi

It's me again - the lurker and lumper.

I hate to defend TMG because it is slow and old fashioned in its user 
interface but it does have one advantage over Legacy that this group has 
highlighted for me.  That is it all works.  The latest version of Legacy 
appears to me to be full of bugs in crucial areas notably the new source 
writer.  Also I have just spent a few hours messing about with this very 
attractive feature with a gedcom imported from TMG and it is not possible to 
merge an imported source with a similar source created by the source writer 
without losing the imported source detail.  Consequently it would be a major 
rewrite to move from TMG to Legacy for me as I am a source lumper and have 
about 1 people in my tree.  Assuming each person features in 2 or 3 
censuses on average for example there is 20-3 source details I would 
have to recreate just for starters.  Perhaps that is something your cousin 
should consider.  It's certainly putting me off.

*snip of rest of post*

Bruce McArthur
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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG

2008-09-01 Thread Robert Carneal
Try this link. It should be in plain text (I tried to make it 
plain),  so you might need to copy it, and paste it to a browser.



It shows a comparison between Legacy 7 and other programs.

Robert

At 2008-09-01  01:11 PM, you wrote:
I went from FTM maker to Legacy and don't regret it for one minute 
(I switched about 4 years ago).  My cousin is using TMG and I want 
some ammo to get her to switch to Legacy but I didn't know enough 
about TMG to know WHY Legacy is so much better :)
 





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[LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

2008-09-01 Thread Ruth Nerud
I have been such an advocate for Legacy in the past, but find its problems 
with Ver. 7 and no knowledge of when they will be fixed makes me wonder - 
has Legacy gotten so far ahead of itself that it's lost sight of what its 
use is? If I can't produce a report that prints properly, if I can't check a 
box and the check sticks, if I can't change the wording overwrite in the 
marriage screen and have what I want said print in a document, all it's good 
for is - me - to collect information. As it stands now I can't share 
information with anyone. What good does the Geo location do me when I can't 
produce a report. Source writer - my sources are fine - I didn't need 
anything better. The Help index is so hard to use. I can't find the topic 
I'm looking for Help with because the titles are beyond understanding. What 
has happened to Legacy? It's become a huge disappointment for me. Can we get 
back to the basic Legacy program and correct its bugs, please?


Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 





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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG

2008-09-01 Thread JLB
I having been trying for eons to get a cousin to switch to Legacy so we 
can use IntelliShare.  After many many years using FTM she's finally 
fed-up enough with the last version to make the change.  Now, since 
we're at V.7 I have to backtrack with my enthusiasm and give excuses and 
warnings instead.  Another not-so-happy camper.

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Bruce McArthur wrote:


Hi

It's me again - the lurker and lumper.

I hate to defend TMG because it is slow and old fashioned in its user 
interface but it does have one advantage over Legacy that this group 
has highlighted for me.  That is it all works.  The latest version of 
Legacy appears to me to be full of bugs in crucial areas notably the 
new source writer.  Also I have just spent a few hours messing about 
with this very attractive feature with a gedcom imported from TMG and 
it is not possible to merge an imported source with a similar source 
created by the source writer without losing the imported source 
detail.  Consequently it would be a major rewrite to move from TMG to 
Legacy for me as I am a source lumper and have about 1 people in 
my tree.  Assuming each person features in 2 or 3 censuses on average 
for example there is 20-3 source details I would have to recreate 
just for starters.  Perhaps that is something your cousin should 
consider.  It's certainly putting me off.


As for the software comparison table I never believe self-publicity - 
I believe there is a similar table on the Wholly Genes website!  And 
who uses the alarm clock anyway?  TMG has unlimited nameable flags 
(tags) which can take multiple one character values which is a far 
superior system to Legacy but the table just says tags = yes for both 
programs.  Also the main person screen shows all the applicable events 
and related people so you don't have to click in different places to 
see them.  One of the best features of TMG is a sister program called 
Second Site which is a customisable web site creation tool which 
operates directly on the TMG database and is far superior to the 
Legacy web page facility.


To be fair I like the way Legacy is fast, the source writer will be 
fantastic when it is finished and working and I like the mapping 
feature although it would be a mountainous amount of effort to use it 
as it doesn't recognise most of my locations unless I prod it hard.  
The Research Guidance is too US oriented to be of much use to me and 
anyway I prefer to think for myself.


Still lurking and pondering but maybe the grass isn't always greener.

regards

Bruce McArthur
Newcastle upon Tyne
Northumberland
England



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Re: [LegacyUG] The IGI

2008-09-01 Thread Hugh Busey
michele,

Maybe it's because of the quality of its content.

 Hugh


On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Michele Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I just noticed that when I add an IGI entry (through the search that is
> available through the Legacy program itself) it sources it using the OLD
> source template.  The IGI isn't being sourced by the new source writer. Why
> is that?
>
> michele
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG

2008-09-01 Thread Bruce McArthur

Hi

It's me again - the lurker and lumper.

I hate to defend TMG because it is slow and old fashioned in its user 
interface but it does have one advantage over Legacy that this group has 
highlighted for me.  That is it all works.  The latest version of Legacy 
appears to me to be full of bugs in crucial areas notably the new source 
writer.  Also I have just spent a few hours messing about with this very 
attractive feature with a gedcom imported from TMG and it is not possible to 
merge an imported source with a similar source created by the source writer 
without losing the imported source detail.  Consequently it would be a major 
rewrite to move from TMG to Legacy for me as I am a source lumper and have 
about 1 people in my tree.  Assuming each person features in 2 or 3 
censuses on average for example there is 20-3 source details I would 
have to recreate just for starters.  Perhaps that is something your cousin 
should consider.  It's certainly putting me off.


As for the software comparison table I never believe self-publicity - I 
believe there is a similar table on the Wholly Genes website!  And who uses 
the alarm clock anyway?  TMG has unlimited nameable flags (tags) which can 
take multiple one character values which is a far superior system to Legacy 
but the table just says tags = yes for both programs.  Also the main person 
screen shows all the applicable events and related people so you don't have 
to click in different places to see them.  One of the best features of TMG 
is a sister program called Second Site which is a customisable web site 
creation tool which operates directly on the TMG database and is far 
superior to the Legacy web page facility.


To be fair I like the way Legacy is fast, the source writer will be 
fantastic when it is finished and working and I like the mapping feature 
although it would be a mountainous amount of effort to use it as it doesn't 
recognise most of my locations unless I prod it hard.  The Research Guidance 
is too US oriented to be of much use to me and anyway I prefer to think for 
myself.


Still lurking and pondering but maybe the grass isn't always greener.

regards

Bruce McArthur
Newcastle upon Tyne
Northumberland
England 





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RE: [LegacyUG] The IGI

2008-09-01 Thread ronald ferguson

I've noticed that as well, Michele, but am quite happy as long as it refrains 
from giving a few hundred references :-)


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] The IGI
> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:13:34 -0400
>
> I just noticed that when I add an IGI entry (through the search that is
> available through the Legacy program itself) it sources it using the OLD
> source template. The IGI isn't being sourced by the new source writer. Why
> is that?
>
> michele
>
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG

2008-09-01 Thread JLB
There's a comparison chart at Legacy I remember seeing a long time ago.  
Compared to all what I'm not sure, but it might help if you can find it.

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Michele Lewis wrote:


I went from FTM maker to Legacy and don't regret it for one minute (I 
switched about 4 years ago).  My cousin is using TMG and I want some 
ammo to get her to switch to Legacy but I didn't know enough about TMG 
to know WHY Legacy is so much better :)


michele

- Original Message - From: "Kate Redford" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 1:12 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TMG



Hi Michele,

I went the other way.My first software in 1996 was FTM  followed 
by PAF

4 & PAF 5; in 2000 I switched to Legacy 4, followed by 5, 6, and 7 (all
deluxe editions); and, for 1 year, beginning September 2007, I tried TMG
running parallel with Legacy 6.  I consider myself computer literate 
and a

medium-advanced genealogist with 12 years experience in researching
ancestors.
With the release of Legacy vs. 7 deluxe, I uninstalled TMG vs. 7 and 
through

up my arms with great rejoicing.  It was a relief to commit to a program
whose user manual, and help center I could understand and use.  I 
also found
that for me Legacy focuses on the parts of family history that I 
wish  to
concentrate with enough extras to keep me happy.   There was not 
enough time

for me to use both software programs.  My database contains almost 2500
people.   My four direct lines are Smith and Smith (no relations, 
Stokes and

Riley;  the Master Source list and Citation list are huge; and images of
pictures and documents mid-size.

Most of all, I find the LUG list and the Legacy support for users and
accessible to users superior to TMG and all of the other kinds of 
software
that I use.  Now, I'm working on getting my database to reflect the 
skills

and caliber of what other users are illustrating on LUG.

If you have any specific questions, please contact me off list.

Good luck in making your decision.  It really is a personal choice.

Kate Smith Redford
Salem, Oregon, USA

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele
Lewis
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:41 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] TMG

For those that have switched to Legacy from TMG, what is it that you 
like

about Legacy that TMG doesn't offer?






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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG

2008-09-01 Thread JLB

Check this out: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Compare.asp
-
JL
JLiki - creating your own genealogy wiki
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jliki.html

Michele Lewis wrote:


I went from FTM maker to Legacy and don't regret it for one minute (I 
switched about 4 years ago).  My cousin is using TMG and I want some 
ammo to get her to switch to Legacy but I didn't know enough about TMG 
to know WHY Legacy is so much better :)


michele

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To: 
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Hi Michele,

I went the other way.My first software in 1996 was FTM  followed 
by PAF

4 & PAF 5; in 2000 I switched to Legacy 4, followed by 5, 6, and 7 (all
deluxe editions); and, for 1 year, beginning September 2007, I tried TMG
running parallel with Legacy 6.  I consider myself computer literate 
and a

medium-advanced genealogist with 12 years experience in researching
ancestors.
With the release of Legacy vs. 7 deluxe, I uninstalled TMG vs. 7 and 
through

up my arms with great rejoicing.  It was a relief to commit to a program
whose user manual, and help center I could understand and use.  I 
also found
that for me Legacy focuses on the parts of family history that I 
wish  to
concentrate with enough extras to keep me happy.   There was not 
enough time

for me to use both software programs.  My database contains almost 2500
people.   My four direct lines are Smith and Smith (no relations, 
Stokes and

Riley;  the Master Source list and Citation list are huge; and images of
pictures and documents mid-size.

Most of all, I find the LUG list and the Legacy support for users and
accessible to users superior to TMG and all of the other kinds of 
software
that I use.  Now, I'm working on getting my database to reflect the 
skills

and caliber of what other users are illustrating on LUG.

If you have any specific questions, please contact me off list.

Good luck in making your decision.  It really is a personal choice.

Kate Smith Redford
Salem, Oregon, USA

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Subject: [LegacyUG] TMG

For those that have switched to Legacy from TMG, what is it that you 
like

about Legacy that TMG doesn't offer?






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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG

2008-09-01 Thread Michele Lewis
I went from FTM maker to Legacy and don't regret it for one minute (I 
switched about 4 years ago).  My cousin is using TMG and I want some ammo to 
get her to switch to Legacy but I didn't know enough about TMG to know WHY 
Legacy is so much better :)


michele

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To: 
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 1:12 PM
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Hi Michele,

I went the other way.My first software in 1996 was FTM  followed by 
PAF

4 & PAF 5; in 2000 I switched to Legacy 4, followed by 5, 6, and 7 (all
deluxe editions); and, for 1 year, beginning September 2007, I tried TMG
running parallel with Legacy 6.  I consider myself computer literate and a
medium-advanced genealogist with 12 years experience in researching
ancestors.
With the release of Legacy vs. 7 deluxe, I uninstalled TMG vs. 7 and 
through

up my arms with great rejoicing.  It was a relief to commit to a program
whose user manual, and help center I could understand and use.  I also 
found

that for me Legacy focuses on the parts of family history that I wish  to
concentrate with enough extras to keep me happy.   There was not enough 
time

for me to use both software programs.  My database contains almost 2500
people.   My four direct lines are Smith and Smith (no relations, Stokes 
and

Riley;  the Master Source list and Citation list are huge; and images of
pictures and documents mid-size.

Most of all, I find the LUG list and the Legacy support for users and
accessible to users superior to TMG and all of the other kinds of software
that I use.  Now, I'm working on getting my database to reflect the skills
and caliber of what other users are illustrating on LUG.

If you have any specific questions, please contact me off list.

Good luck in making your decision.  It really is a personal choice.

Kate Smith Redford
Salem, Oregon, USA

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Subject: [LegacyUG] TMG

For those that have switched to Legacy from TMG, what is it that you like
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RE: [LegacyUG] adding information from another person's gedcom to my family tree

2008-09-01 Thread sandra chester

Thanks for the replies.
I have always set up a new file to import the other person's gedcom to with a , 
but what I failed to do was to edit out their source material before merging 
the individuals I wanted to my master file. I always autosource it with the 
name of the person from whom I get the gedcom, which appears as an unspecified 
source in my sources list for every field but all the other persons sources get 
added to my list as well. Now I will know enough to make sure I remove all 
their sources before merging with my master file.
Sandra


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> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:27:49 -0400
>
>
>
> Hi everyone
> Since I think I have been doing this incorrectly, how do all of you go about 
> adding the data from other people's gedcoms to your tree, without bringing 
> their sources into it.
> Any advice would be appreciated.
> Thanks
> Sandra
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RE: [LegacyUG] TMG

2008-09-01 Thread Kate Redford
Hi Michele,

I went the other way.My first software in 1996 was FTM  followed by PAF
4 & PAF 5; in 2000 I switched to Legacy 4, followed by 5, 6, and 7 (all
deluxe editions); and, for 1 year, beginning September 2007, I tried TMG
running parallel with Legacy 6.  I consider myself computer literate and a
medium-advanced genealogist with 12 years experience in researching
ancestors.  
With the release of Legacy vs. 7 deluxe, I uninstalled TMG vs. 7 and through
up my arms with great rejoicing.  It was a relief to commit to a program
whose user manual, and help center I could understand and use.  I also found
that for me Legacy focuses on the parts of family history that I wish  to
concentrate with enough extras to keep me happy.   There was not enough time
for me to use both software programs.  My database contains almost 2500
people.   My four direct lines are Smith and Smith (no relations, Stokes and
Riley;  the Master Source list and Citation list are huge; and images of
pictures and documents mid-size.

Most of all, I find the LUG list and the Legacy support for users and
accessible to users superior to TMG and all of the other kinds of software
that I use.  Now, I'm working on getting my database to reflect the skills
and caliber of what other users are illustrating on LUG. 

If you have any specific questions, please contact me off list.

Good luck in making your decision.  It really is a personal choice.

Kate Smith Redford
Salem, Oregon, USA

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Subject: [LegacyUG] TMG

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[LegacyUG] The IGI

2008-09-01 Thread Michele Lewis
I just noticed that when I add an IGI entry (through the search that is 
available through the Legacy program itself) it sources it using the OLD 
source template.  The IGI isn't being sourced by the new source writer. Why 
is that?


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RE: [LegacyUG] Tense suggestion for people alive

2008-09-01 Thread Jeremy Knowles
Well, surely you would only tick the box if you knew they never had
children and weren't likely to (or, more to the point can't have)? Then,
my point is if one dies then it would revert to past tense since 'had
no' would then be grammatically correct.

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue
> Winter
> Sent: 01 September 2008 16:36
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tense suggestion for people alive
> 
> Seems to me this would create a lot of extra work, not only updating
> the
> records when a person dies or a couple separates, but also keeping in
> touch
> with them all so that you know their circumstances at all times.
> 
> 
> 
> Easy enough for siblings and other close relatives but cousins several
> times
> removed are not always easy to keep track of and may not keep you
> informed,
> especially if they have no interest in family history
> 
> 
> 
> Sue
> 
> 
> 
> ---Original Message---
> 
> 
> 
> From: Ruth Nerud
> 
> Date: 1/09/2008 9:34:17 PM
> 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tense suggestion for people alive
> 
> 
> 
> I agree - I have to tweak my reports to make this read correctly. Did
> you
> fill out the Suggest a new feature page on the Legacy Home page?
> 
> 
> 
> Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> - Original Message -
> 
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> 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> 
> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 7:53 AM
> 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Tense suggestion for people alive
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Can I make a suggestion? It would be nice if the present tense could
be
> used
> for people who are still alive. For a couple with no children and the
> 'This
> couple had no children' ticked, it says in the children box "** Had No
> Children **", and similarly on reports.
> 
> It would be nicer if it said "Have no children" since it they are
still
> with
> us.
> 
> Similarly, in reports with the 'did not marry' ticked, the reports say
> that
> the couple "did not marry", rather than "are not married".
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tense suggestion for people alive

2008-09-01 Thread Jenny M Benson
It would be nice if the present tense could be
> used for people who are still alive. For a couple with no children and
> the 'This couple had no children' ticked, it says in the children box
> "** Had No Children **", and similarly on reports.
>
> It would be nicer if it said "Have no children" since it they are still
> with us.
>
> Similarly, in reports with the 'did not marry' ticked, the reports say
> that the couple "did not marry", rather than "are not married".
>
I have no problem with the existing wording.  After all, what it's really
saying is "at the time this report was created, this couple had no
children" which is accurate, even if the couple are alive and there is a
strong possibility that they will have children in the future.

I never actually tick the "no children" box until such time as the couple
(or at least one of them) have died without issue


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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for Canadian Census

2008-09-01 Thread Heeren
Bah... I meant they went back & forth during the 18th century... and part of 
the 19th... 

Sally

I had some problems too with the population schedule for the 1851 Census. I 
used the template for Census records > All countries except those below... 
> Online, database and images. I had no problem with the master source 
template. But the detail source template does not give a field for the 
township name, enumeration district, or subdistrict. I just did an override 
to fix the problem. For the 1901 Census, I just created a master source 
using the basic source tool. Also, I don't like that the field for county 
is on the detail template and not on the master template. I prefer to have 
master sources for census records broken up by county. Maybe that's just a 
personal preference, though. Anyhow, I think a template for Canada needs to 
be made.


Jennifer


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From: Heeren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for Canadian Census
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 6:59 PM
I have an 1851 Agricultural census for an individual in
Ontario county, Reach Township.

The SourceWriter doesn't have a CANADA, when I use
Every Other Country Except... it doesn't look right.

Canada was really England in 1851, it didn't become
independent from England until after WWI but using England
isn't correct either.

Any suggestions?

Sally

PS... I've checked archives & there are no messages
with this subject since the SourceWriter came out.




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Re: [LegacyUG] half siblings

2008-09-01 Thread Karen Thornhill
Thank you, all

Karen

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Dawn Crowley
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> It is something that can be turned off and on, so perhaps it was an option
> set long ago in v 6.  I generally leave show 1/2 kids on because most of my
> families with 1/2 siblings were raised together.  That makes it easier for
> me to catch all of the children when searching census records, etc.
>  However, sometimes the children were adults when a new marriage made them
> 1/2 siblings.  Those I don't need to see in one family when doing research.
>
> Karen Thornhill wrote:
>
>> Thank you.  I know the pop up box will show half-siblings.  In version
>> 6 the half-siblings would show in the family view without the
>> necessity
>> of a right-click or pop up box or prompting.
>>
>> Karen
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Dede Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> If you right click in one of the children's boxes, from Family View,
>>> you'll get a pop-up menu.  Choose View, then Show 1/2 Kids.
>>>
>>> Dede
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Karen Thornhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Hello all,

 Does anyone know how to make the half siblings show in the "Family"
 view in Legacy 7?  In Legacy 6 half-siblings showed in the "Family"
 view if you checked the designated box in the children section.

 In Legacy 7, when you click on the red plus sign to show brothers and
 sisters, the box is there to show half-siblings, but they only show in
 the box you are viewing, not in the "Family" view.

 What am I not doing? Thanks for your time.

 Karen Thornhill
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RE: [LegacyUG] Tense suggestion for people alive

2008-09-01 Thread Jeremy Knowles
Paul, 

 

I'd disagree because there are no births to be in the past tense, the
couple are very much in the present and will never have children so
'have' seems better but I can see your point. Maybe an extra wording
option on the marriage screen would be the way to go, then it could be
done for some as required.

 

Jeremy 

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Abell
Sent: 01 September 2008 16:08
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tense suggestion for people alive

 

Jeremy,
It is correct to say "had no children" even with the parents living.
The birth would be past tense and so is "had".  I think the Legacy
programmers thought this through and correctly.

Paul

 






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RE: [LegacyUG] Tense suggestion for people alive

2008-09-01 Thread Cary
I agree, all the events that make it to my Legacy file are in the past, even
the Announcement event for pregnancies where no one is born yet.  Maybe I'm
superstitious, but I don't enter babies until they are born.  So for me,
"had" is always correct.

 

I also don't feel a need to check "Had no children" unless it is final.  The
absence of children suffices to tell me for close family, and I cannot be
sure of knowing for more distant cousins.  Have none would be just as wrong
as had none is the condition changed.

 

 

Cary

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Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 10:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tense suggestion for people alive

 

Jeremy,
It is correct to say "had no children" even with the parents living.  The
birth would be past tense and so is "had".  I think the Legacy programmers
thought this through and correctly.

Paul

 



Jeremy Knowles wrote: 

Can I make a suggestion? It would be nice if the present tense could be used
for people who are still alive. For a couple with no children and the 'This
couple had no children' ticked, it says in the children box "** Had No
Children **", and similarly on reports. 

It would be nicer if it said "Have no children" since it they are still with
us.

Similarly, in reports with the 'did not marry' ticked, the reports say that
the couple "did not marry", rather than "are not married".

Jeremy

  


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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for Canadian Census

2008-09-01 Thread Jennifer Trahan
I had some problems too with the population schedule for the 1851 Census. I 
used the template for Census records > All countries except those below... > 
Online, database and images. I had no problem with the master source template. 
But the detail source template does not give a field for the township name, 
enumeration district, or subdistrict. I just did an override to fix the 
problem. For the 1901 Census, I just created a master source using the basic 
source tool. Also, I don't like that the field for county is on the detail 
template and not on the master template. I prefer to have master sources for 
census records broken up by county. Maybe that's just a personal preference, 
though. Anyhow, I think a template for Canada needs to be made.

Jennifer


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> From: Heeren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for Canadian Census
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 6:59 PM
> I have an 1851 Agricultural census for an individual in
> Ontario county, Reach Township.
> 
> The SourceWriter doesn't have a CANADA, when I use
> Every Other Country Except... it doesn't look right.
> 
> Canada was really England in 1851, it didn't become
> independent from England until after WWI but using England
> isn't correct either.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Sally
> 
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> with this subject since the SourceWriter came out.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for Canadian Census

2008-09-01 Thread HowlandDavisII
Jennifer:
 
I wrote directly to Sally and maybe I should not  have.  Here is what I 
said:
Actually from 1841 until 1867, what is now Ontario was called Canada West  
(and Quebec was Canada East).  Prior to 1841, they were Upper Canada and  Lower 
Canada.  So you have something from Reach Township, Ontario  County, Canada 
West (now Ontario).  For your information, you might want to  keep this as a 
favorite: _http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/english/index.html_ 
(http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/english/index.html)It is an atlas for all of 
Canada.  Very 
helpful at finding places.  If  it says that it cannot find something, go to a 
partial spelling, of any  sort, to see what pops up.
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for Canadian Census

2008-09-01 Thread Heeren
Yes, Jennifer, that's it exactly.  I was hoping there was a nice neat way 
that I had overlooked.  I think a template for Canada would be great... 
after all, in the 1800's people went back & forth across the border like it 
was all one country. 


Thank you for your response,
Sally
*
I had some problems too with the population schedule for the 1851 Census. I 
used the template for Census records > All countries except those below... 
> Online, database and images. I had no problem with the master source 
template. But the detail source template does not give a field for the 
township name, enumeration district, or subdistrict. I just did an override 
to fix the problem. For the 1901 Census, I just created a master source 
using the basic source tool. Also, I don't like that the field for county 
is on the detail template and not on the master template. I prefer to have 
master sources for census records broken up by county. Maybe that's just a 
personal preference, though. Anyhow, I think a template for Canada needs to 
be made.


Jennifer


--- On Sun, 8/31/08, Heeren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


From: Heeren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for Canadian Census
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 6:59 PM
I have an 1851 Agricultural census for an individual in
Ontario county, Reach Township.

The SourceWriter doesn't have a CANADA, when I use
Every Other Country Except... it doesn't look right.

Canada was really England in 1851, it didn't become
independent from England until after WWI but using England
isn't correct either.

Any suggestions?

Sally

PS... I've checked archives & there are no messages
with this subject since the SourceWriter came out.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for Canadian Census

2008-09-01 Thread Heeren
Thank you, Kathy, I know I can use the old format & input it, that's what 
I've done in the past. 


Now, I'd like to use the SourceWriter for all my new sources but the 
Canadian Agricultural Census seems to be an ungainly fit for it.


Sally
**

I'm not sure what doesn't look right.  I just put things into the fields
provided and arrange them until what comes out looks ok to me.

First was done in version 6 and the 2nd was done using the Sourcewriter.


Old format

[Census - Canada - Ontario - 1851  - Wellington County]
Puslinch Township, Wellington South, Enumeration District 1, page 76 [number
39 also appears]; Microfilm C-11756
John D. Porter Farmer, born Ireland, age 73
John D. Porter Farmer, born Ireland age 32
Robert Porter, Farmer, born Ireland age 30
Ann J. Porter, born Ireland, age 34

Sourcewriter used:
Footnote/Endnote Citation:
1851 Census of Grey County, Ontario, Collingwood Twp, District 11,
Subdistrict 86, p. 15; digital images, The Generations Network, Inc,
Ancestry.com. 1851 Census of Canada East, Canada West, New Brunswick, and
Nova Scotia [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA (www.ancestry.ca);
Alexr Mitchell age 28, born Scotland
Mary Mitchell age 23, born Scotland
John G. Mitchell age 4 born Canada W
James Mitchell age 2 born Canada W

Subsequent Citation:
1851 Census of Grey County, Ontario, Collingwood Twp, District 11,
Subdistrict 86, p. 15.

Bibliography:
Grey County. Ontario. 1851 Census of Grey County. Digital images. The
Generations Network, Inc. Ancestry.com. 1851 Census of Canada East, Canada
West, New Brunswick, and Nova Scotia [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA.
www.ancestry.ca : 5 Aug 2008.

--- in my case the Sourcewriter is pulling up info from the Master source
for the 2nd example.  For the first - the Master Source actually is
Census - Canada - Ontario - 1851  - Wellington County and may show on
reports.  I'll be checking.  I haven't gone back to change citations at this
point.

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Re: [LegacyUG] half siblings

2008-09-01 Thread Dawn Crowley
It is something that can be turned off and on, so perhaps it was an 
option set long ago in v 6.  I generally leave show 1/2 kids on because 
most of my families with 1/2 siblings were raised together.  That makes 
it easier for me to catch all of the children when searching census 
records, etc.  However, sometimes the children were adults when a new 
marriage made them 1/2 siblings.  Those I don't need to see in one 
family when doing research.


Karen Thornhill wrote:


Thank you.  I know the pop up box will show half-siblings.  In version
6 the half-siblings would show in the family view without the
necessity
of a right-click or pop up box or prompting.

Karen

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Dede Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


If you right click in one of the children's boxes, from Family View,
you'll get a pop-up menu.  Choose View, then Show 1/2 Kids.

Dede

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Karen Thornhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   


Hello all,

Does anyone know how to make the half siblings show in the "Family"
view in Legacy 7?  In Legacy 6 half-siblings showed in the "Family"
view if you checked the designated box in the children section.

In Legacy 7, when you click on the red plus sign to show brothers and
sisters, the box is there to show half-siblings, but they only show in
the box you are viewing, not in the "Family" view.

What am I not doing? Thanks for your time.

Karen Thornhill
researching
ELDRED TEICHMANN SEELEY REED SISCOE THORNHILL FOSTER UNDERWOOD PFALTZGRAFF







 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Tense suggestion for people alive

2008-09-01 Thread Sue Winter
Seems to me this would create a lot of extra work, not only updating the
records when a person dies or a couple separates, but also keeping in touch
with them all so that you know their circumstances at all times. 
 
Easy enough for siblings and other close relatives but cousins several times
removed are not always easy to keep track of and may not keep you informed,
especially if they have no interest in family history
 
Sue
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: Ruth Nerud 
Date: 1/09/2008 9:34:17 PM 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tense suggestion for people alive 
 
I agree - I have to tweak my reports to make this read correctly. Did you
fill out the Suggest a new feature page on the Legacy Home page? 
 
Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
- Original Message - 
From: Jeremy Knowles 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 7:53 AM 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Tense suggestion for people alive 
 
 
Can I make a suggestion? It would be nice if the present tense could be used
for people who are still alive. For a couple with no children and the ‘This
couple had no children’ ticked, it says in the children box “** Had No
Children **”, and similarly on reports. 
It would be nicer if it said “Have no children” since it they are still with
us. 
Similarly, in reports with the ‘did not marry’ ticked, the reports say that
the couple “did not marry”, rather than “are not married”. 
Jeremy 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tense suggestion for people alive

2008-09-01 Thread Paul Abell

Jeremy,
It is correct to say "had no children" even with the parents living.  
The birth would be past tense and so is "had".  I think the Legacy 
programmers thought this through and correctly.


Paul




Jeremy Knowles wrote:


Can I make a suggestion? It would be nice if the present tense could 
be used for people who are still alive. For a couple with no children 
and the 'This couple had no children' ticked, it says in the children 
box "** Had No Children **", and similarly on reports.


It would be nicer if it said "Have no children" since it they are 
still with us.


Similarly, in reports with the 'did not marry' ticked, the reports say 
that the couple "did not marry", rather than "are not married".


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Re: [LegacyUG] half siblings

2008-09-01 Thread Bert van Kootwijk
You are absolutely wrong. V7 is for showing half-siblings exactly the same 
as V6.


Bert


- Original Message - 
From: "Karen Thornhill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] half siblings



Thank you.  I know the pop up box will show half-siblings.  In version
6 the half-siblings would show in the family view without the
necessity
of a right-click or pop up box or prompting.

Karen

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Dede Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If you right click in one of the children's boxes, from Family View,
you'll get a pop-up menu.  Choose View, then Show 1/2 Kids.

Dede

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Karen Thornhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:


Hello all,

Does anyone know how to make the half siblings show in the "Family"
view in Legacy 7?  In Legacy 6 half-siblings showed in the "Family"
view if you checked the designated box in the children section.

In Legacy 7, when you click on the red plus sign to show brothers and
sisters, the box is there to show half-siblings, but they only show in
the box you are viewing, not in the "Family" view.

What am I not doing? Thanks for your time.

Karen Thornhill
researching
ELDRED TEICHMANN SEELEY REED SISCOE THORNHILL FOSTER UNDERWOOD 
PFALTZGRAFF












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Re: [LegacyUG] Input of Cemetery Names

2008-09-01 Thread Allison Nelson
That works too.  Only problem then is what if you want to do a
Cemetery report, showing all known cemetery locations.  I keep photos
(with LOT # and GPS info etc, in the Adobe Photoshop metadata), and my
monument photos are all in one folder called Tombstones, so I can see
all the monuments easily, but they are not in order by name or RIN #.
I wish that Legacy would simply add the fields we need, allow the
addition of these fields to the Individuals Record screen, and then
make a nice neat report to go with them.  I agree GPS is not that
accurate but it helps get you in the area of the lots.

Allison

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Bruce Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do my cemetery locations similar but add the Plot-Block-Lot in parentheses
> Salt Lake City Cemetery (E-8-1)
> I have multiple ancestors buried in 7 different plot/block/lots in this
> cemetery.  I tag all locations in that (or all) cemetery(ies) then create a
> location report using just tagged locations and it shows all relatives in
> each plot/block/lot.  I put the latitude & longitude on the location rather
> than for each gravestone.
> I found that once I am at the correct plot/block/lot (by using either a map
> or a GPS) that I can find the gravestones visually better than using a GPS
> device for each gravestone (GPS devices are not quite THAT accurate).
> So my report looks like this:
> Name: Salt Lake City Cemetery (E.8.1), Salt Lake, Utah, USA
> Lat/Long: N404635.1, W1115140
> Used by: 1. George Barnes {46] (21 Nov 1885-21 Nov 1885)
>   2. Mary Ann LEWIS [118] (16 Oct 1835-29 Sep 1906
>   3.
> etc.
> (Since the cemetery name contains the name of the city, I don't put the city
> in my master location)
> Just my way of doing it.
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Janis L Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Allison,
>>
>> I agree that the burial day is not particularly useful, and that I want to
>> see the burial place on the main screen.
>>
>> My solution has been to adopt someone else's idea on this list (wish I
>> could
>> credit the source, but can't remember). I enter the place like this:
>>
>> Mountain View-Chapel Hill Cemetery, Howell County, Missouri, USA
>>
>> That way, cemeteries for a certain locale all sort with the locale, and
>> there isn't an extra field thrown in. If there is no town, it would look
>> like this:
>>
>> , Howell County-Chapel Hill, Missouri, USA
>>
>> The full particulars (location of cemetery, etc) would be in the source
>> for
>> the data.
>>
>> Janis Walker Gilmore
>>
>>
>> On 8/31/08 9:26 AM, "Allison Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > I am working in Legacy 6 still,  partly because they added stuff I
>> > will never use, and they failed to address problems like this one.
>> > This should be a simple straight forward thing to enter!
>> >
>> > I have asked Legacy a few times to put specific fields in place for
>> > the Cemetery Name, and Location (in my books this is the village, town
>> > or city that the cemetery is in).  Secondary information such as the
>> > Lot numbers, GPS location, cemetery managements address information,
>> > and Notes should all appear as standard entries, and all of this
>> > should be sourced as usual.
>> >
>> > At present I fake it...and use the Buried fields as follows:
>> >
>> > Buried:  Evergreen Memorial Park   In: Moncton, New Brunswick, CANADA
>> >
>> > An error message comes up saying I have the wrong type of information
>> > in the Buried field.  (I entered a cemetery name instead of a
>> > date...Legacy forbid!) and I simply ignore the error message and hit
>> > cancel.  This way I can see on my individuals screen.  In my humble
>> > opinion, no one really cares what day the deceased was physically put
>> > in the ground... we do care where they were buried.
>> >
>> > I do feel somewhat qualified to speak about the importance of our
>> > cemeteries, where someone is buried, how to find the graves, and the
>> > importance of a good old fashioned monument (preferably made out of
>> > granite for longevity).  I have been worked in the monument industry
>> > for 29 years and am currently writing public education manuals for our
>> > provincial association.
>> >
>> > I want to say congratulations to Richard & Evita for collecting this
>> > type of information over the years!  It may be a nuisance now (when
>> > entering in Legacy) but it could be invaluable to others who might be
>> > viewing your research in years to come.  I am thinking of how many
>> > graves there are out there unmarked or made of materials that have
>> > deteriorated to the point where they are unreadable.  People who
>> > record this information will make it possible to find these graves in
>> > future years.  PS...do NOT rely on cemetery or funeral homes or the
>> > public archives to supply this information in the future many of
>> > these records are gone already!
>> >
>> > Allison
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Evan H

Re: [LegacyUG] half siblings

2008-09-01 Thread Karen Thornhill
Thank you.  I know the pop up box will show half-siblings.  In version
6 the half-siblings would show in the family view without the
necessity
of a right-click or pop up box or prompting.

Karen

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Dede Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you right click in one of the children's boxes, from Family View,
> you'll get a pop-up menu.  Choose View, then Show 1/2 Kids.
>
> Dede
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Karen Thornhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Does anyone know how to make the half siblings show in the "Family"
>> view in Legacy 7?  In Legacy 6 half-siblings showed in the "Family"
>> view if you checked the designated box in the children section.
>>
>> In Legacy 7, when you click on the red plus sign to show brothers and
>> sisters, the box is there to show half-siblings, but they only show in
>> the box you are viewing, not in the "Family" view.
>>
>> What am I not doing? Thanks for your time.
>>
>> Karen Thornhill
>> researching
>> ELDRED TEICHMANN SEELEY REED SISCOE THORNHILL FOSTER UNDERWOOD PFALTZGRAFF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] half siblings

2008-09-01 Thread Dede Holden
If you right click in one of the children's boxes, from Family View,
you'll get a pop-up menu.  Choose View, then Show 1/2 Kids.

Dede

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Karen Thornhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Does anyone know how to make the half siblings show in the "Family"
> view in Legacy 7?  In Legacy 6 half-siblings showed in the "Family"
> view if you checked the designated box in the children section.
>
> In Legacy 7, when you click on the red plus sign to show brothers and
> sisters, the box is there to show half-siblings, but they only show in
> the box you are viewing, not in the "Family" view.
>
> What am I not doing? Thanks for your time.
>
> Karen Thornhill
> researching
> ELDRED TEICHMANN SEELEY REED SISCOE THORNHILL FOSTER UNDERWOOD PFALTZGRAFF
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] half siblings

2008-09-01 Thread Evert van Dijken
Right Click on a child in Family View > Select View > Select Show 1/2 Kids
Evert



> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 08:28:44 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: [LegacyUG] half siblings> > 
> Hello all,> > Does anyone know how to make the half siblings show in the 
> "Family"> view in Legacy 7? In Legacy 6 half-siblings showed in the "Family"> 
> view if you checked the designated box in the children section.> > In Legacy 
> 7, when you click on the red plus sign to show brothers and> sisters, the box 
> is there to show half-siblings, but they only show in> the box you are 
> viewing, not in the "Family" view.> > What am I not doing? Thanks for your 
> time.> > Karen Thornhill> researching> ELDRED TEICHMANN SEELEY REED SISCOE 
> THORNHILL FOSTER UNDERWOOD PFALTZGRAFF> > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Input of Cemetery Names

2008-09-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I agree that the burial day is not particularly useful, and that I
want to see the burial place on the main screen.


The data shown on the main screen can be customized so that you can see 
anything else you prefer instead of the burial date. Just right click on any 
of the 5 shown fields.


I do not recall what the original default field shown was but in my Legacy 7 
Deluxe I now have "Burial Date/Place" showing, but it could be changed to 
"Burial Place", or "Burial Lat/Long" if one prefers. And one can enter 
whatever data one wishes in the order one prefers in the "Burial Place" 
field.  So if one enters:

Mountain View-Chapel Hill Cemetery, Howell County, Missouri, USA

that is what would appear on that field in the main screen.

Would that do what you would like?

Jeff

Janis L Gilmore wrote:

Allison,

I agree that the burial day is not particularly useful, and that I
want to see the burial place on the main screen.

My solution has been to adopt someone else's idea on this list (wish
I could credit the source, but can't remember). I enter the place
like this:

Mountain View-Chapel Hill Cemetery, Howell County, Missouri, USA

That way, cemeteries for a certain locale all sort with the locale,
and there isn't an extra field thrown in. If there is no town, it
would look like this:

, Howell County-Chapel Hill, Missouri, USA

The full particulars (location of cemetery, etc) would be in the
source for the data.

Janis Walker Gilmore


On 8/31/08 9:26 AM, "Allison Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I am working in Legacy 6 still,  partly because they added stuff I
will never use, and they failed to address problems like this one.
This should be a simple straight forward thing to enter!

I have asked Legacy a few times to put specific fields in place for
the Cemetery Name, and Location (in my books this is the village,
town or city that the cemetery is in).  Secondary information such
as the Lot numbers, GPS location, cemetery managements address
information, and Notes should all appear as standard entries, and
all of this should be sourced as usual.

At present I fake it...and use the Buried fields as follows:

Buried:  Evergreen Memorial Park   In: Moncton, New Brunswick, CANADA

An error message comes up saying I have the wrong type of information
in the Buried field.  (I entered a cemetery name instead of a
date...Legacy forbid!) and I simply ignore the error message and hit
cancel.  This way I can see on my individuals screen.  In my humble
opinion, no one really cares what day the deceased was physically put
in the ground... we do care where they were buried.

I do feel somewhat qualified to speak about the importance of our
cemeteries, where someone is buried, how to find the graves, and the
importance of a good old fashioned monument (preferably made out of
granite for longevity).  I have been worked in the monument industry
for 29 years and am currently writing public education manuals for
our provincial association.

I want to say congratulations to Richard & Evita for collecting this
type of information over the years!  It may be a nuisance now (when
entering in Legacy) but it could be invaluable to others who might be
viewing your research in years to come.  I am thinking of how many
graves there are out there unmarked or made of materials that have
deteriorated to the point where they are unreadable.  People who
record this information will make it possible to find these graves in
future years.  PS...do NOT rely on cemetery or funeral homes or the
public archives to supply this information in the future many of
these records are gone already!

Allison



On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Evan Henderson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Fellow Legacy Users,
On the Input of Cemetery Names
That's the beauty of Legacy over other programs. You are not
entirely restricted in using the format. You are given several
options on how to arrange your data to your tastes. Put the address
where you want, use 9 fields, 3, or 6.5 Whatever! Country, state,
county, township, town, building, suite

I put the Cemetery in this order:
Town in Town Cemetery, Smith County, Texas, USA
Township in Township Cemetery, Smith County, Kansas, USA
Smith County in Rural Cemetery, Ohio, USA
I try my best to be consistent so other viewers are not confused.

I use the latitude longitude in both the location list and Burial
address. The burial's website link is a google map link. This
prints out with the burial address in reports, and also when I
submit to Rootsweb so all can see the Cemetery Location. There may
be limitations, but it works and I deal with it.

It may be a little US Centric. That's because it was created in the
US. But I not seen any other program where I am able top converse
with wonderful people from all over the world. I have had the
pleasure of meeting great people from Australia, Sweden, England,
Ireland, Mexico, Norway, and many other beautiful places.

Legacy allows you to tailor the program like no oth

Re: [LegacyUG] Tense suggestion for people alive

2008-09-01 Thread Dermot McGlone
Jeremy,

I'm just back to this list after two months away, so I may be
repeating something already stated elsewhere, but, speaking
personally, I would NEVER tick the "This couple had no children" for a
couple where both are still alive.  OK, maybe if they're both in their
90s, then it's probably safe enough, but you never know(!)  I only
ever use it where the couple had no known issue, and as they are
already dead, not likely to have any.

I agree with you regarding the "not married" wording, though.  I
wonder how easy/difficult it would be to program?

Just my EUR0.02 worth.

Regards,

Dermot.

2008/9/1 Jeremy Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Can I make a suggestion? It would be nice if the present tense could be used
> for people who are still alive. For a couple with no children and the 'This
> couple had no children' ticked, it says in the children box "** Had No
> Children **", and similarly on reports.
>
> It would be nicer if it said "Have no children" since it they are still with
> us.
>
> Similarly, in reports with the 'did not marry' ticked, the reports say that
> the couple "did not marry", rather than "are not married".
>
> Jeremy
>


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RE: [LegacyUG] half siblings

2008-09-01 Thread ronald ferguson

Karen,

It has always been necessary to right click on the Kids then View>Show 1/2Kids


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> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 08:28:44 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] half siblings
>
> Hello all,
>
> Does anyone know how to make the half siblings show in the "Family"
> view in Legacy 7? In Legacy 6 half-siblings showed in the "Family"
> view if you checked the designated box in the children section.
>
> In Legacy 7, when you click on the red plus sign to show brothers and
> sisters, the box is there to show half-siblings, but they only show in
> the box you are viewing, not in the "Family" view.
>
> What am I not doing? Thanks for your time.
>
> Karen Thornhill
> researching
> ELDRED TEICHMANN SEELEY REED SISCOE THORNHILL FOSTER UNDERWOOD PFALTZGRAFF
>
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tense suggestion for people alive

2008-09-01 Thread Ruth Nerud
Tense suggestion for people aliveI agree - I have to tweak my reports to make 
this read correctly. Did you fill out the Suggest a new feature page on the 
Legacy Home page?

Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeremy Knowles 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 7:53 AM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Tense suggestion for people alive


  Can I make a suggestion? It would be nice if the present tense could be used 
for people who are still alive. For a couple with no children and the 'This 
couple had no children' ticked, it says in the children box "** Had No Children 
**", and similarly on reports. 

  It would be nicer if it said "Have no children" since it they are still with 
us.


  Similarly, in reports with the 'did not marry' ticked, the reports say that 
the couple "did not marry", rather than "are not married".

  Jeremy


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[LegacyUG] half siblings

2008-09-01 Thread Karen Thornhill
Hello all,

Does anyone know how to make the half siblings show in the "Family"
view in Legacy 7?  In Legacy 6 half-siblings showed in the "Family"
view if you checked the designated box in the children section.

In Legacy 7, when you click on the red plus sign to show brothers and
sisters, the box is there to show half-siblings, but they only show in
the box you are viewing, not in the "Family" view.

What am I not doing? Thanks for your time.

Karen Thornhill
researching
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[LegacyUG] Tense suggestion for people alive

2008-09-01 Thread Jeremy Knowles
Can I make a suggestion? It would be nice if the present tense could be
used for people who are still alive. For a couple with no children and
the 'This couple had no children' ticked, it says in the children box
"** Had No Children **", and similarly on reports. 

It would be nicer if it said "Have no children" since it they are still
with us.

Similarly, in reports with the 'did not marry' ticked, the reports say
that the couple "did not marry", rather than "are not married".

Jeremy






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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for Canadian Census

2008-09-01 Thread Kathy Wallace
I’m not sure what doesn’t look right.  I just put things into the fields
provided and arrange them until what comes out looks ok to me.

First was done in version 6 and the 2nd was done using the Sourcewriter.


Old format

[Census - Canada - Ontario - 1851  - Wellington County]
Puslinch Township, Wellington South, Enumeration District 1, page 76 [number
39 also appears]; Microfilm C-11756
John D. Porter Farmer, born Ireland, age 73
John D. Porter Farmer, born Ireland age 32
Robert Porter, Farmer, born Ireland age 30
Ann J. Porter, born Ireland, age 34

Sourcewriter used:
Footnote/Endnote Citation:
1851 Census of Grey County, Ontario, Collingwood Twp, District 11,
Subdistrict 86, p. 15; digital images, The Generations Network, Inc,
Ancestry.com. 1851 Census of Canada East, Canada West, New Brunswick, and
Nova Scotia [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA (www.ancestry.ca); 
Alexr Mitchell age 28, born Scotland
Mary Mitchell age 23, born Scotland
John G. Mitchell age 4 born Canada W
James Mitchell age 2 born Canada W

Subsequent Citation:
1851 Census of Grey County, Ontario, Collingwood Twp, District 11,
Subdistrict 86, p. 15. 

Bibliography:
Grey County. Ontario. 1851 Census of Grey County. Digital images. The
Generations Network, Inc. Ancestry.com. 1851 Census of Canada East, Canada
West, New Brunswick, and Nova Scotia [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA.
www.ancestry.ca : 5 Aug 2008.

--- in my case the Sourcewriter is pulling up info from the Master source
for the 2nd example.  For the first - the Master Source actually is 
Census - Canada - Ontario - 1851  - Wellington County and may show on
reports.  I'll be checking.  I haven't gone back to change citations at this
point.

Kathy




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Re: [LegacyUG] (+) Plus Sign Column

2008-09-01 Thread Mike Fry

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for all of the help, everybody.
 


Nope! We all got it wrong - even me but I was closest!

Experimentation shows that by adding an Address to the Event, the plus 
sign appears. Then, unlinking the Address from the Event causes the + to 
disappear.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Timelines for Legacy

2008-09-01 Thread ronald ferguson

Sheri,

I think you are referring to Legacy's invitation for users to submit their own 
Timelines for consideration for inclusion in the Legacy set. As far as I know 
this invitation still stands, and I know the Legacy download does include them.

It is easy to do your own, and as you suggested, the time is taken up on the 
research.

Best wishes,


Ron Ferguson

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Timelines for Legacy
> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:14:20 -0400
>
> Ron,
>
> Thanks for the help. I was thinking that at one time there were some user
> submitted timelines that were available for download on the Legacy site, but
> they don't seem to be there now. (Could have dreamed that also.) Anyway, the
> information I'm looking for in a timeline would be very basic facts; event
> name and date, which shouldn't be a copyright issue. I do have a few I'm
> working on and I will play around with import/export to see how to do that.
>
> Thanks again for the help.
>
> Sheri Harris
> Georgia
> Researching Prater, Trimmer, Moose, Stockburger, McDonald, Brotherton,
> Daugherty, Harris families
>
> Private e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
> ferguson
> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 11:39 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Timelines for Legacy
>
>
> Sheri,
>
> The timelines are simple csv type text files which are situated in
> Legacy\Timelines\lang and can be opened in Notepad or any text program. You
> will see that they use " | " instead of commas and "{\n}" as line feeds (no
> quotes for either).
>
> It should not be too much trouble to convert other formatted timelines to
> the Legacy format - although remember that someone almost certainly holds
> copyright.
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
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>
>
>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Timelines for Legacy
>> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:08:00 -0400
>>
>> I know Legacy v7 comes with several timelines, but would like more on US
>> general history. I can't seem to find any on Legacy's site any to
> download,
>> or I'm just not finding them. I'm mostly interested in US general history
>> and individual state histories and possibly epidemics and disasters. My
>> husband is a history buff and history teacher and so is my son, and I know
> I
>> can create my own, but unfortunately, we don't have the time to devote to
>> creating them. Does anyone know where or how to get any? I know there are
>> several timeline software programs out there, but would really like these
> in
>> Legacy so I can include those in my reports and publishing center. If not,
>> is there a program that will import this into Legacy and vice versa? And
> I'm
>> hope asking about a compatible program is not off topic and if it is,
> please
>> reply to me privately.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Sheri Harris
>> Georgia
>> Researching Prater, Trimmer, Moose, Stockburger, McDonald, Brotherton,
>> Daugherty, Harris families
>>
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