Re: [LegacyUG] Old Style/New Style dates for pre 1754 England, how to enter

2009-02-14 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Because different programs handle 'doubledates' differently, when I switched 
from PAF 3.1 to AQ, all my DDs were messed up. Because of this, before I moved 
from AQ to L5, I had made notes for each date, in source details, showing what 
I knew it should be, then tweeked the date so it looked correct and ignored if 
the underlying date was entered incorrect (IGI?) elsewhere. When I moved to L5, 
most if not all came correctly. (Some I hadn't fixed yet). Hope this helps.
Rich in LA CA


--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote:

 From: Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Style/New Style dates for pre 1754 England, how 
 to enter
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 3:22 PM
 ceaste...@aol.com wrote:
  Because I am only so far entering my maternal
 grandmother's lineage on Legacy, most of individuals are
 English.  Many pre-1752 when the first day of the year
 changed from Mar 25 to Jan 1.  The only way I have been able
 to enter the Jan 1-Mar 24 dates on Legacy for those earlier
 years are 1 Jan 1725-1 Jan 1726 which in my mind gives an
 entire idea than I am trying to convey, the idea that the
 date was somewhere between those two dates.  What I had done
 on PAF was 1 Jan 1725/6 which it did accept.  Has anyone
 found a way to allow that type of dating?  I know the IGI
 uses the New style which would be 1 Jan 1726, but to me that
 is not clear as unless you know how a particular compiler is
 interpreting the original info, that date could be 1725 or
 1726.  I'd rather those with whom I share didn't
 have to guess.   
  So I tried adding OS to a date and it flipped it to
 the next year and dropped the OS.  The same thing happens if
 I put NS which is the reverse, still adds a year. 
  Any suggestions?
 
 Have you been to Options-- Customize-- Dates? And
 then switched on the option to Use Double-Dating and made
 sure the cutoff was set to 1752?
 
 -- Regards,
 Mike Fry
 Johannesburg.
 
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] First and Second spouses reversed

2009-02-14 Thread ronald ferguson

Meg,
 
A preferred marriage is not related to the order in which the marriages took 
place but a preference as to which marriage one wishes to appear on the screen. 
It may be that where a first marriage was short without children and a second 
was long with children then one would prefer to see the second marriage 
displayed.
 
I do not know of a global way of correcting the marriage order, however, to 
correct for each marriage: in Family VIew click on the spouses icon and adjust 
the order using the blue arrows on the husbands of/wives of screen.



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 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:55:17 -0600
 From: scotques...@bartnet.net
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] First and Second spouses reversed

 Have recently jumped from v4 to v7 and am tweaking settings. Have
 discovered a great many marriages are reversed. The FIRST spouse is
 listed second and the SECOND spouse is listed first. Whether or not a
 spouse is the Preferred individual seems to have no effect on the
 switch. Dates are correct and in the right timeline.

 Can this be corrected globally or must I find EVERY set of switched
 spouses in this database and somehow manually switch them...which is
 another process I can't seem to find how to do.

 Assistance and guidance welcomed. Meg Greenwood
 



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[LegacyUG] Printing photographs in Ancestor Book - further help needed

2009-02-14 Thread June Chan
I have entered a photograph in the death events, this has a tick on it.
However when I go to print and ancestor book they only picture that comes
out is the main one. None of the event photos are printing. I did check that
I had a tick in the box and I do. Anyway suggestions please?

Thank you. June





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Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships

2009-02-14 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I am guessing what is happening. Is that 'aunt' actually both of those numbers. 
For example, my son's relationship to Charlemange is over 48 different paths. 
Which is correct, his 37th ggfather (x2), 38th ggfather (x31), 39th ggfather 
(x15), or one of the various ways they are cousins.
I believe the rule is to use the lowest number, adding the removed 'count' to 
it, so your 19th is lowest. Which line is the direct male line? Also, how many 
Blood Relationships are you using. I used 100 to recieve these from L7. 
Using the Relationship Calculator, find ALL of the connections to two people. 
I hope this helps.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Fri, 2/13/09, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote:

 From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 1:32 PM
 There is an ongoing problem with Relationship that Legacy
 can't seem to fix.
 
 For instance, my 22nd GGFather and GGMother had two
 children, each of whom is an ancestor of mine - one is my
 21st GGF, the other is incorrectly listed as my 19th GGAunt!
 
 Her husband is, accordingly, incorrectly listed as the
 Husband of my 19th GG Aunt.
 
 Their child is correctly listed as my 21st GGFather. 
 However, Legacy can find no relationship between him and his
 parents!!
 
 And, of course, the ancestors of HIS father, my incorrectly
 listed Husband of my 19th GGAunt, are not identified as my
 ancestors.
 
 Unfortunately, This is not an isolated occurrence; it
 occurs with too many of my ancestors, some as close as my
 6th GGParents!
 
 It doesn't  matter what limits I set on Blood or
 Non-blood Relationships; the relationships are still wrong!
 
 Generations are crucial to genealogy, and being unable to
 find my direct ancestors has become a MAJOR problem with
 this otherwise wonderful program.
 
 I have reported the problem to Legacy for more than a year.
  It was going to be fixed in Legacy 7 but is actually worse.
  Replies from support have been dismissive.
 
 Has anyone else encountered this problem, and, hopefully,
 found a solution?
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Including source scanned images in web page creation

2009-02-14 Thread Bruce McArthur

Ron

Second Site is a companion program to TMG which works directly on the TMG 
database to produce web pages.  It is extremely flexible and is really one 
of the main reasons I stick with TMG.  I have sent CDs produced using Second 
Site to many relatives around the world.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Printing photographs in Ancestor Book - further help needed

2009-02-14 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I don't know for sure, but I noticed if there is any other photos scheduled to 
print it will superscede all others. That is why I created an event Gravestone, 
with the picture there. Then I can print more than one photo per person.
Rich in LA CA


--- On Sat, 2/14/09, June Chan mai_l...@aapt.net.au wrote:

 From: June Chan mai_l...@aapt.net.au
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Printing photographs in Ancestor Book - further help 
 needed
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 1:06 AM
 I have entered a photograph in the death events, this has a
 tick on it.
 However when I go to print and ancestor book they only
 picture that comes
 out is the main one. None of the event photos are printing.
 I did check that
 I had a tick in the box and I do. Anyway suggestions
 please?
 
 Thank you. June
 
 
 
 
 
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[LegacyUG] Apologies for terrible typying

2009-02-14 Thread June Chan
Apologies for the terrible typing in my last email. Don't know what happened
and why I didn't  proof read.

June





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RE: [LegacyUG] Printing photographs in Ancestor Book - further help needed

2009-02-14 Thread June Chan
Thank you Rich

Does that mean that rather than attaching the photo to the event (death)
that is already there, I should create a new event, calling it something
similar and attach the photo there?

I had thought that if you had a photo added to each event, if you had 20
events it should print the 20 pictures.

Thanks - June 



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Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Sent: Saturday, 14 February 2009 7:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing photographs in Ancestor Book - further help
needed


I don't know for sure, but I noticed if there is any other photos scheduled
to print it will superscede all others. That is why I created an event
Gravestone, with the picture there. Then I can print more than one photo per
person.
Rich in LA CA






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RE: [LegacyUG] Including source scanned images in web page creation

2009-02-14 Thread ronald ferguson

Thanks, Bruce.
 
A number of Legacy users are using another program with which I am not 
familiar. It's called The Next Generation and I understand that it has special 
facilities for Legacy. I may be wrong but I think it needs the Legacy GEDCOM, 
but I'm not sure. Others should be able to help on this.
 
The URL is http://lythgoes.net/genealogy/software.php
 
Hope this helps



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 From: bruce.mcart...@dsl.pipex.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Including source scanned images in web page creation
 Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:32:01 +

 Ron

 Second Site is a companion program to TMG which works directly on the TMG
 database to produce web pages. It is extremely flexible and is really one
 of the main reasons I stick with TMG. I have sent CDs produced using Second
 Site to many relatives around the world.

 cheers

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RE: [LegacyUG] Printing photographs in Ancestor Book - further help needed

2009-02-14 Thread ronald ferguson

June,
 
In case Rich's in bed, yes you are correct. The pictures for Vital Events - 
basically BMD's - are nor printed, nor included in web pages without creating a 
special Event.



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 From: mai_l...@aapt.net.au
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing photographs in Ancestor Book - further help 
 needed
 Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:02:23 +1000

 Thank you Rich

 Does that mean that rather than attaching the photo to the event (death)
 that is already there, I should create a new event, calling it something
 similar and attach the photo there?

 I had thought that if you had a photo added to each event, if you had 20
 events it should print the 20 pictures.

 Thanks - June



 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 Sent: Saturday, 14 February 2009 7:26 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing photographs in Ancestor Book - further help
 needed


 I don't know for sure, but I noticed if there is any other photos scheduled
 to print it will superscede all others. That is why I created an event
 Gravestone, with the picture there. Then I can print more than one photo per
 person.
 Rich in LA CA
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RE: [LegacyUG] First and Second spouses reversed

2009-02-14 Thread Glen A. Sedrick

I have unsubscribed twice using the link at the bottom of each e-mail.
Why are the e-mails still coming?

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-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Meg Greenwood
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 11:55 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] First and Second spouses reversed

Have recently jumped from v4 to v7 and am tweaking settings.  Have 
discovered a great many marriages are reversed.  The FIRST spouse is 
listed second and the SECOND spouse is listed first.  Whether or not a 
spouse is the Preferred individual seems to have no effect on the 
switch. Dates are correct and in the right timeline. 

Can this be corrected globally or must I find EVERY set of switched 
spouses in this database and somehow manually switch them...which is 
another process I can't seem to find how to do. 

Assistance and guidance welcomed.  Meg Greenwood




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RE: [LegacyUG] Printing photographs in Ancestor Book - further help needed

2009-02-14 Thread June Chan
Thank you Ken and Rich.

Regards

June

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Of ronald ferguson
Sent: Saturday, 14 February 2009 8:52 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing photographs in Ancestor Book - further help
needed



June,
 
In case Rich's in bed, yes you are correct. The pictures for Vital Events -
basically BMD's - are nor printed, nor included in web pages without
creating a special Event.



Ron Ferguson






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Re: [LegacyUG] First and Second spouses reversed

2009-02-14 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:54:16 +, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com
wrote:

I do not know of a global way of correcting the marriage order

Perhaps this should be a candidate for the Potential Problems Report?
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days

2009-02-14 Thread Dede Holden
To all on this Dropbox thread:

I am watching this topic for two reasons:  I am interested in Dropbox
and I am also contemplating a new computer.  Right now I am using XP
and I know if I buy a new computer, it will have Vista.

I am wondering if Jim's problem might have to do with the fact that he
is running XP on one computer and Vista on the other?

Is anyone else using Dropbox in this scenario and, if so, how is it working?

Dede Holden

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 1:47 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
fourpa...@verizon.net wrote:
 I found this problem, when on my old Windows 3.1 CPU, if I left it running 
 overnight, and decided my mainframe got confused after too much 
 'calculating', meaning too many big reports without logging off/restarting so 
 I got used to turning it off every night, and have continued with my laptop 
 for no reason. I was told way back, that computers each have a finite number 
 of times to turn on and off before they die. I am backed up, if I need to buy 
 a new one (hope I am not infuriating any gremlins).
 Rich in LA CA

 --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Erin Bradshaw eb_pa...@hotmail.com wrote:

 From: Erin Bradshaw eb_pa...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 11:32 AM
 I am using Legacy v. 7.0.0.81 and DropBox on Windows XP (on
 desktop and laptop).  I have never encountered error 91.  I
 have delayed updating to .86 because I thought I noticed
 that err. 91 started then (I may be wrong).  But since I was
 not having that problem decided to stay with tried and true.
 Also I have no media in my Legacy program yet.

 Erin

 - Original Message - From: DimJim
 dimji...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days


 Well mercy sakes Dropbox just hasn't worked
 100% for me.
 The Dropbox program is installed on each computer (1 XP
  1 VISTA
 64bit), both using the same build of Legacy7 Dlx.
 From the XP 'puter, I copied my .fdb file to Dropbox.
 It was
 immediately copied to Dropbox server and appeared on my
 VISTA machine.
 Now, each time I open Legacy I get the dreaded Error 91 -
 Error
 opening data base
 Run-time error '91':
 Object variable or With block variable not set
 It then closes the Legacy program.
 This happens approximately ever other time I open Legacy.
 Then it
 will open almost normally.  This behavior happens no
 whether I open
 Legacy by double clicking the file in the DropBox folder or
 if I try
 to start Legacy from the start program.
 This happens on both the XP and the VISTA machine and it
 doesn't make
 any difference whether the Legacy file was closed and then
 immediately
 opened on the same machine or the other machine.
 One other strange thing ~ if I set the Options
  Customize 
 Starting File  to Always Prompt for Starting Family
 File and then
 save that setting... the next time I start Legacy, the
 .fdb file
 in the LockBox folder is the one used and the setting under
 Options 
 Customize will have been reset to Open Last Used Family
 File
 Automatically.
 Never had the dreaded Run-Time error 91 or any other
 problem before
 using LockBox and will probably need to return to toting my
 flash
 driver forth and back between the two machines.
 Thought I'd post this problem in the hope that it might
 shed
 additional light on what is going on with the Run-Time
 error 91 issue.



 On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Janis L Gilmore
 rajan...@earthlink.net wrote:
  Kathy, and others who were involved in the DropBox
 discussion, as it
  pertains to the Legacy data file.
 
  Brilliant! I love knowing that each time I close my
 Legacy file on my
  laptop, it updates my file on my desktop – and the
 reverse. No copying to a
  thumb drive. No backing up (no pesky error 91). Not
 even the trouble of
  moving a file, via the home network, from one machine
 to the other. Just
  seamless, effortless synchronization.
 
  Ditto for media files.
 
  Janis



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Re: [LegacyUG] Stop Messages about DropBox - Warning from LUG Administrator

2009-02-14 Thread Dede Holden
Jim,

I am deeply sorry.  I have just posted a message to the thread BEFORE
I read this warning.  Please do not remove me from the list.  My inbox
lists messages in most recently received order so I didn't get to
this one before I got another one about the forbidden topic.

Dede Holden

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Support/Jim Terry
jimte...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
 This is a request from the LUG administrator that all messages about the
 program DropBox stop immediately. This program is not a Legacy add-on and we
 are getting complaints about the on-going message thread.

 The purpose of the LUG is to provide a forum for mutual help and the
 friendly exchange of ideas related to the use of Legacy Family Tree and its
 add-on programs, only. Please keep on topic.

 Any further messages about DropBox will result in the offender being removed
 without warning from the LegacyUserGroup. The excuse I didn't see
 administer warning is not a valid reason for leaving you on the subscribers
 list.

 Please see http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp if you have
 questions about LUG policy.

 Thank you for choosing Legacy,

 Jim Terry

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Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

2009-02-14 Thread Dede Holden
I don't consider myself a professional either, but I like to keep a
copy on my computer as a PDF file because I can have several of them
open at the same time.  On Ancestry, loading and viewing digital
images can be painfully slow.  The PDF's pop up quickly.  I have
discovered other family connections based on other people listed on
the same census pages, so going back to the actual document has been a
great plus for me in my research.  Of course, I now have an external
hard drive, because these files take up so much space, but it's worth
it to me.

I'm interested in hearing what others have to say about this, too.

Dede Holden

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fourpa...@verizon.net wrote:
 I don't consider myself a professional (never got paid), but I would say it 
 is a personal choice, with factors being size of your equipment, the 
 maintenance cost of same, and what you plan to do when finally finished.
 Rich in LA CA


 --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 1:11 PM
 For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the
 history of my
 family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland,
 England, etc.  I have
 used the SourceWriter to document each entry.

 For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later
 entries, I have gone
 back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and
 found the data
 quickly.  This tells me that my source details pass the
 test of
 findability.

 Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a
 digital copy of each
 census record to include with each reference to the census
 document in
 Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events.

 How would you professionals answer this query?

 Dave



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[LegacyUG] Taking DropBox discussion off list

2009-02-14 Thread Janis L Gilmore
DimJim,

Looks like we need to take this discussion off list. Feel free to continue
to email me on the topic - same goes for anyone else who wishes to discuss
its implementation for the purposes of getting around Error 91.

(And I'll probably refer you to Kathy Cardoza, who is much more savvy about
it!)

Janis Walker Gilmore


On 2/13/09 6:55 PM, DimJim dimji...@gmail.com wrote:

 Kathy, Janis and all,
 Thanks for all the thoughts, suggestions and concerns.
 Since my original note, I have deleted all the files in DropBox, then
 copied all the files from C/Legacy7/Data to DropBox - no joy - still
 erratic.  Sometimes it will open and then again it takes several tries
 before Legacy will start.
 THEN I deleted all of those files from DropBox, opened Legacy (always
 works with no prob when DropBox is empty) and opened my main dbf file,
 then from Legacy I saved-as with a new file name directly to the
 Legacy folder within DropBox.  Still the same erratic behavior ~
 sometimes I get the Runtime Error 91 and it shuts down and then again
 it will open correctly.  Same behavior, both machines.
 I'm going to uninstall DropBox and then restart both machines before I
 install LB again.  Then I will save-as from Legacy with my main fdb
 file, to LB with a new file name.
 If that doesn't work. off to the saloon ;-)
 or ~ maybe I'll login to the users forum at DropBox
 
 On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@mac.com wrote:
 Janis  DimJim
 
 I'm sure you are absolutely right, Janis! Very astute of you. I totally
 zoned out on that and didn't take notice of it. Yes, DimJim, I think that
 might be the problem as Legacy needs all its files in order to work
 properly.
 
 When I first started using Dropbox, I selected all files within Legacy/Data
 and copied them into a new folder at DropBox/Legacy Data and it has worked
 flawlessly for me. I chose to name that new folder differently, instead of
 just copying over the Data folder from within Legacy, so that I could EASILY
 tell if the location chosen for backups and data saves was indeed my new
 folder in Dropbox and not the default Data folder in Legacyjust to make
 it easier and more obvious to me so I could tell at a glance.
 
 So, DimJim, if you're not totally soured on Dropbox, you could try again.
 First, though, make sure your file is in good shape, healthy, and opening
 from its default location in Legacy. Then try doing either as I did or just
 copying over your Data folder to your Dropbox. Hopefully, you will get
 better results.
 
 Kathy
 
 On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Janis L Gilmore wrote:
 
 DimJim  Kathy,
 
 Kathy, is this because he didn't put the whole Legacy data folder in
 DropBox?
 
 Janis
 
 
 On 2/13/09 10:39 AM, DimJim dimji...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well mercy sakes Dropbox just hasn't worked 100% for me.
 The Dropbox program is installed on each computer (1 XP  1 VISTA
 64bit), both using the same build of Legacy7 Dlx.
 From the XP 'puter, I copied my .fdb file to Dropbox.  It was
 immediately copied to Dropbox server and appeared on my VISTA machine.
 Now, each time I open Legacy I get the dreaded Error 91 - Error
 opening data base
 Run-time error '91':
 Object variable or With block variable not set
 It then closes the Legacy program.
 This happens approximately ever other time I open Legacy.  Then it
 will open almost normally.  This behavior happens no whether I open
 Legacy by double clicking the file in the DropBox folder or if I try
 to start Legacy from the start program.
 This happens on both the XP and the VISTA machine and it doesn't make
 any difference whether the Legacy file was closed and then immediately
 opened on the same machine or the other machine.
 One other strange thing ~ if I set the Options  Customize 
 Starting File  to Always Prompt for Starting Family File and then
 save that setting... the next time I start Legacy, the .fdb file
 in the LockBox folder is the one used and the setting under Options 
 Customize will have been reset to Open Last Used Family File
 Automatically.
 Never had the dreaded Run-Time error 91 or any other problem before
 using LockBox and will probably need to return to toting my flash
 driver forth and back between the two machines.
 Thought I'd post this problem in the hope that it might shed
 additional light on what is going on with the Run-Time error 91 issue.
 
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Janis L Gilmore rajan...@earthlink.net
 wrote:
 
 Kathy, and others who were involved in the DropBox discussion, as it
 pertains to the Legacy data file.
 
 Brilliant! I love knowing that each time I close my Legacy file on my
 laptop, it updates my file on my desktop ­ and the reverse. No copying
 to a
 thumb drive. No backing up (no pesky error 91). Not even the trouble of
 moving a file, via the home network, from one machine to the other. Just
 seamless, effortless synchronization.
 
 Ditto for media files.
 
 Janis
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Legacy User 

Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages - Tracking Individuals

2009-02-14 Thread Judy


I, too, track individuals through census pages, and would appreciate knowing 
how others keep track of other people, who at one time may not be 
recognized as related, but after further work, end up being so.


For instance - a person may be a boarder at a particular residence, in any 
given census year, and I note, in the source, with whom he/she is living, 
but see no way to keep track of these extra people.  I just recently 
discovered a marriage certificate for a person, went searching for the 
family in census records and found that I had reference to them in a census 
source, recorded years earlier.  The boarder living with the family was 
actually a niece - daughter of the wife's sister, for whom I had adequate 
information in a distant state.


Putting the residing with in an event field would seem to clutter up a 
report.  Any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated.


Judy



- Original Message - 
From: Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages



I don't consider myself a professional either, but I like to keep a
copy on my computer as a PDF file because I can have several of them
open at the same time.  On Ancestry, loading and viewing digital
images can be painfully slow.  The PDF's pop up quickly.  I have
discovered other family connections based on other people listed on
the same census pages, so going back to the actual document has been a
great plus for me in my research.  Of course, I now have an external
hard drive, because these files take up so much space, but it's worth
it to me.

I'm interested in hearing what others have to say about this, too.

Dede Holden

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 1:31 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
fourpa...@verizon.net wrote:
I don't consider myself a professional (never got paid), but I would say 
it is a personal choice, with factors being size of your equipment, the 
maintenance cost of same, and what you plan to do when finally finished.

Rich in LA CA


--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 1:11 PM
For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the
history of my
family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland,
England, etc.  I have
used the SourceWriter to document each entry.

For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later
entries, I have gone
back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and
found the data
quickly.  This tells me that my source details pass the
test of
findability.

Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a
digital copy of each
census record to include with each reference to the census
document in
Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events.

How would you professionals answer this query?

Dave





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Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

2009-02-14 Thread Jenny M Benson

Dave Johnson wrote
Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of 
each census record to include with each reference to the census 
document in Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events.


How would you professionals answer this query?


May a non-professional offer an opinion?!

I don't actually create separate Events for each column on a Census as 
you do, just entering everything as a Census Event.  (I do, though, use 
the Census for a Source for name, age and place of birth.)  I attach a 
digital image of the Census page to the Source Detail, but I don't print 
this on Reports.


I keep the digital images because I am frequently wanting to refer back 
to the page for various reasons and I can't always be sure that I will 
have access to the online image at any time I might want it - Internet 
connection not available for some reason, subscription to Census website 
lapsed, Census website temporarily down, etc.  Vast amounts of storage 
space are available quite cheaply nowadays so keeping hundreds of images 
is not a problem, although I do trim the images and do not save in 
colour.

--
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RE: [LegacyUG] First and Second spouses reversed

2009-02-14 Thread ronald ferguson

That's probably the best we can hope for.
 
I did think of the possibility of having a global ordering enhancement, but it 
seems to me that given the probability of a large number of multiple marriages 
arranged in order, but with marriage dates missing, this is unlikely to be of 
much use.



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 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] First and Second spouses reversed
 Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 07:07:22 -0500

 On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:54:16 +, ronald ferguson 
 wrote:

I do not know of a global way of correcting the marriage order

 Perhaps this should be a candidate for the Potential Problems Report?

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Re: [LegacyUG] First and Second spouses reversed

2009-02-14 Thread Mike Fry

Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:54:16 +, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com
wrote:


I do not know of a global way of correcting the marriage order


Perhaps this should be a candidate for the Potential Problems Report?


If it was, there would would only be one, sensible option - that of date 
sequence. Anything else is just plain stupid across all marriages.


--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages - Tracking Individuals

2009-02-14 Thread Jenny M Benson

Judy wrote
I, too, track individuals through census pages, and would appreciate 
knowing how others keep track of other people, who at one time may 
not be recognized as related, but after further work, end up being so.


When I create a Census Event I put the details of each individual in the 
Description, but in the Notes I mention the complete household, for 
example The household comprised Joe Bloggs 531, his wife Fanny Adams 
604, their son Joseph Bloggs 883 and boarder Jane Doe.


Because my family file is not huge (3,000) and I am frequently 
reviewing the main people of interest I find that is sufficient for me 
to find these other people if they crop up again in another context. 
I also have a pretty good memory for names in my file!  However, I 
appreciate that this is rather a casual approach and would not suit 
someone who has an enormous file or a great many other people


A few times in the past on LUG, people have mentioned the wish for 
Legacy to include a General Notes field, separate from the Notes 
attached to each Individual, where one could enter information relating 
to the whole file.  Such a facility would be useful for recording the 
names of other people who may prove to be of interest.  But it occurs 
to me that one could also create a To Do, putting something like Other 
People in Task needing to be done and just add the names to the Task 
Description as one comes across them.  If one inserted each name in 
alphabetical order, it would not be too difficult to check this list 
whenever a new connection was found.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Large Gedcom Import trouble?

2009-02-14 Thread Tim Rosenlof
After you input people, Legacy will not identify the relation, so you will 
need to be recaluated. I would do it after adding a good amount of people, 
at a time if it takes you 12 hours to calculate.

Tim

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Norenberg

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Large Gedcom Import trouble?


I imported a file with 455,000 people and that  was no problem. (It went 
smoothly.) When I attempted to establish the relationships of everyone in 
the file it took 12 hours to calculate. In my file everyone was related 
(numerous times) so that would have been the reason why I would assume.



On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 2:31 AM, roy_delos_re...@comcast.net wrote:


I'm new to Legacy and have a question.

I'm about to try and import a large gedcom (600,000+ people).

Has anyone got any hints or clues as to possible problems I may encounter?

Thanks for your time.

Roy D. Reyes



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources: basic vs. three digit numbers

2009-02-14 Thread Jenny M Benson

 wrote
In trying to edit and clean up my Sources I  see something called 
basic and some other three digit numbers in the Master  Source List 
-  Template ID. What does it mean?


Basic means old style Sources that were created before we had 
SourceWriter or where you chose to use the Basic system rather than 
SourceWriter.


But where are you seeing Template ID in the Master Source List?  I don't 
see it!

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] cleaning up gedcom import

2009-02-14 Thread Brian
Erin,

To see the new tree count you have to have Legacy recelculate the trees. When 
you open the tree finder it displays the last list fo trees that were 
calculated.

You could always use File  Save as to make a copy of her file with a new name. 
Experiment with the search and replace in that copy so if something goes wrong 
you can reload the original and try again. File Backup Family file would also 
work before you experiment with serch and replace. If there is a problem you 
can use File  Restore Family file to reload the original file.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corp
Home of Legacy Family Tree
We are changing the world of genealogy

When replying please include all correspondence, Thanks


- Original Message -
From: Erin Bradshaw [mailto:eb_pa...@hotmail.com]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:58:10 -0800
Subject: [LegacyUG] cleaning up gedcom import

In tree finder there are several single person trees, when we went in and
linked those people with the correct family and then did a check/repair I
expected to see those trees gone.  They were still showing as 1 item trees.
How come?

Also the person I am helping imported a gedcom from Family Origins and most
of her year dates imported with (we guess) a small L915.  So her dates are
messed up.  I was looking for a way to use search/replace date field. Where
l (small L) would be replaced by 1 To fix every date at once.  But as I have
not used this feature before I was nervous about messing up her file.
Possible?  Suggestions?

Erin




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RE: [LegacyUG] First and Second spouses reversed

2009-02-14 Thread glove
I would have thought the easiest way would be for the program to treat
marriages as events. That way a file maintenance could be performed using
the sort events by date function and correct everything globally.
Graham

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Fry
Sent: 14 February 2009 13:14
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] First and Second spouses reversed

Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:54:16 +, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com
 wrote:
 
 I do not know of a global way of correcting the marriage order
 
 Perhaps this should be a candidate for the Potential Problems Report?

If it was, there would would only be one, sensible option - that of date 
sequence. Anything else is just plain stupid across all marriages.

-- 
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Old Style/New Style dates for pre 1754 England, how to enter

2009-02-14 Thread Elizabeth
My double dating system works beautifully with my English ancestors,
but I now find that my early German ancestors are given the
alternative dates as well.  Is it possible to allow double dates (ie
b. 1 Jan 1748/49) in general, but to override them for the dozen or so
German ancestors?

Is it possible to override a few settings anywhere else where a default is set?

-- 
Elizabeth
Researching any ALLAMBRIDGE anywhere

  Because I am only so far entering my maternal
 grandmother's lineage on Legacy, most of individuals are
 English.  Many pre-1752 when the first day of the year
 changed from Mar 25 to Jan 1.  The only way I have been able
 to enter the Jan 1-Mar 24 dates on Legacy for those earlier
 years are 1 Jan 1725-1 Jan 1726 which in my mind gives an
 entire idea than I am trying to convey, the idea that the
 date was somewhere between those two dates.  What I had done
 on PAF was 1 Jan 1725/6 which it did accept.  Has anyone
 found a way to allow that type of dating?  I know the IGI
 uses the New style which would be 1 Jan 1726, but to me that
 is not clear as unless you know how a particular compiler is
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Re: [LegacyUG] First and Second spouses reversed

2009-02-14 Thread S. Fry
I don't know how to globally change the order of spouses, but to change them 
individually, bring up the spouse list [icon on lower left of family view], 
highlight the spouse you want to move by clicking it. Click the up or down 
button on the lower right corner of the window to move the spouse up or down 
in the list.


See also Help, Spouse List, then from the Topics Found box, select 
Spouse List.


Sherry Crews Fry



- Original Message - 
From: Meg Greenwood scotques...@bartnet.net

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 11:55 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] First and Second spouses reversed


Have recently jumped from v4 to v7 and am tweaking settings.  Have 
discovered a great many marriages are reversed.  The FIRST spouse is 
listed second and the SECOND spouse is listed first.  Whether or not a 
spouse is the Preferred individual seems to have no effect on the switch. 
Dates are correct and in the right timeline.
Can this be corrected globally or must I find EVERY set of switched 
spouses in this database and somehow manually switch them...which is 
another process I can't seem to find how to do.

Assistance and guidance welcomed.  Meg Greenwood




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RE: [LegacyUG] Naming photos

2009-02-14 Thread Brian Beddor
Hi Bruce,
Thanks!

Another question with regards to census.  I can see doing it exactly as
you state if there is only one household that I'm interested in on the
sheet/document.  But, what about if there are two?  Say Bob and Pete
Smith are brothers and each have a family and they live next door to
each other and appear on the same census page?   Would you just
duplicate it and have one labeled with the MRIN for Bob and the other
labeled for the MRIN for Pete?  
Or, should I make this census record a Master Source document?

Appreciating your help,
Brian

*

Brian,
Yes I do.  they would be
mrin-xMAR-name-description
mrin-xCEN-name-description
mrin-xBIR-name-description
mrin-xDEA-name-description

Hope that helps,
Bruce

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Brian Beddor bbed...@japsolson.com
wrote:
 Hi Ken,
 Thanks for the recommendation.  Since I've just started using Legacy
I'm
 not that familiar with the MRIN, but it sounds like a useable system.
 Do you use MRIN filing method for documents (marriage certificates,
 census records, etc.) as well?

 Thanks,
 Brian

 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
 Behalf Of Bruce Jones
 Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:43 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Naming photos

 Here is what I am doing.
 Since I use the MRIN filing method, I label all pictures as follows:

 mrin-xPIC-name(s)-description

 Where x is H (Husband), W (Wife), C (Couple), or n (for unmarried
 children where 1 is the first child, 2 the second, etc.)
 If I have a group photo, I use the MRIN of either the primary
 person/couple or the oldest person/couple and use F (Family) or G
 (Group) for the x
 I am thinking of adding the date taken (or ABT as suggested by
 another) in part of the name.

 Just my 2 cents.


 On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Brian Beddor bbed...@japsolson.com
 wrote:
 Hi,
 Does anyone have any recommendations for how to name photos on one's
 computer?  I had started by saving them as last-name first-name
 date-taken.  That works well for pictures of only 1 person where I
 know
 the date it was taken.  It doesn't work all that well for group
 photos.
 Or old photos that I've scanned where I don't know the date it was
 taken.

 Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 Thanks,
 Brian



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RE: [LegacyUG] Printing photographs in Ancestor Book - further help needed

2009-02-14 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Yes, but sometimes the events I call 'vitals' (birth/bapt/death/burial) didn't 
send their photos. I had years ago, created a work around, so if it is fixed 
now, I don't need the repair. 
Rich in LA CA


--- On Sat, 2/14/09, June Chan mai_l...@aapt.net.au wrote:

 From: June Chan mai_l...@aapt.net.au
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing photographs in Ancestor Book - further help 
 needed
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 2:02 AM
 Thank you Rich
 
 Does that mean that rather than attaching the photo to the
 event (death)
 that is already there, I should create a new event, calling
 it something
 similar and attach the photo there?
 
 I had thought that if you had a photo added to each event,
 if you had 20
 events it should print the 20 pictures.
 
 Thanks - June 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com
 [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 Sent: Saturday, 14 February 2009 7:26 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing photographs in Ancestor
 Book - further help
 needed
 
 
 I don't know for sure, but I noticed if there is any
 other photos scheduled
 to print it will superscede all others. That is why I
 created an event
 Gravestone, with the picture there. Then I can print more
 than one photo per
 person.
 Rich in LA CA
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Old Style/New Style dates for pre 1754 England, how to enter

2009-02-14 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
That is a problem that has been mentioned, but is probably too hard to adjust. 
Most Catholic countries (at the time), switched first, the Protestant countries 
switched on various dates, and the Orthodox ones later, so the need of the date 
field having a 'tag' to use the old/new dates by reading which country the date 
is in, is more complicated than would first seem. I use them with a grain of 
salt.
Rich in LA CA
 

--- On Sat, 2/14/09, Elizabeth roobee...@googlemail.com wrote:

 From: Elizabeth roobee...@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Style/New Style dates for pre 1754 England, how 
 to enter
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 8:08 AM
 My double dating system works beautifully with my English
 ancestors,
 but I now find that my early German ancestors are given the
 alternative dates as well.  Is it possible to allow double
 dates (ie
 b. 1 Jan 1748/49) in general, but to override them for the
 dozen or so
 German ancestors?
 
 Is it possible to override a few settings anywhere else
 where a default is set?
 
 -- 
 Elizabeth
 Researching any ALLAMBRIDGE anywhere
 
   Because I am only so far entering my maternal
  grandmother's lineage on Legacy, most of
 individuals are
  English.  Many pre-1752 when the first day of the
 year
  changed from Mar 25 to Jan 1.  The only way I have
 been able
  to enter the Jan 1-Mar 24 dates on Legacy for
 those earlier
  years are 1 Jan 1725-1 Jan 1726 which in my mind
 gives an
  entire idea than I am trying to convey, the idea
 that the
  date was somewhere between those two dates.  What
 I had done
  on PAF was 1 Jan 1725/6 which it did accept.  Has
 anyone
  found a way to allow that type of dating?  I know
 the IGI
  uses the New style which would be 1 Jan 1726, but
 to me that
  is not clear as unless you know how a particular
 compiler is
  interpreting the original info, that date could be
 1725 or
  1726.
 
 
 
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[LegacyUG] Blank pages

2009-02-14 Thread Jane Sarles
In a Descendant Book Report, I get blank pages between the title page, and
also between generational sections.  Big waste of paper.  I cannot see where
I avoid all the blank pages.  Help?

Jane


Re: [LegacyUG] Numbering Clipboard events

2009-02-14 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
What he actually meant (my guess) is that when running reports, the report 
numbers itself. To see an example, go to Master Source List, tag a few of them, 
go to options, print, choose use 'Only tagged individuals', 'Master Sources and 
All Citations to each one', choose preview. Note the numbering after each item. 
If it looks like I am off, which CD, section do you mean? I will look and try 
to interpret what he said.
Rich in LA CA


--- On Sat, 2/14/09, Barbara bschwart...@twcny.rr.com wrote:

 From: Barbara bschwart...@twcny.rr.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Numbering Clipboard events
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 10:44 AM
 Hello, I have the latest version of Legacy and as a new
 learner am struggling with source clipboard entry.  I also,
 have listened to the video many many times and am missing
 something.
 
 Geoff says in the video that the names listed in an
 individual's events from a census will automatically be
 numbered.  Mine are not.  What am I not doing?
 
 Thanks  Barb
 
 
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Naming photos

2009-02-14 Thread Cathy Vallevieni

Bruce:

I make separate paper copies with each's MRIN and file in their 
family file, save separate copies of the Census on the computer also 
using each's MRIN (the computer name and the paper document name are 
the same so easy to cross reference) and I create a separate Source 
on the Master Source list for each person's Census event.  Bottom 
line I duplicate the Census everywhere so there's a separate record 
for each family.  This makes it easy to find and orgainzed.


Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA



At 09:18 AM 2/14/2009, you wrote:

Hi Bruce,
Thanks!

Another question with regards to census.  I can see doing it exactly as
you state if there is only one household that I'm interested in on the
sheet/document.  But, what about if there are two?  Say Bob and Pete
Smith are brothers and each have a family and they live next door to
each other and appear on the same census page?   Would you just
duplicate it and have one labeled with the MRIN for Bob and the other
labeled for the MRIN for Pete?
Or, should I make this census record a Master Source document?

Appreciating your help,
Brian

*

Brian,
Yes I do.  they would be
mrin-xMAR-name-description
mrin-xCEN-name-description
mrin-xBIR-name-description
mrin-xDEA-name-description

Hope that helps,
Bruce

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Brian Beddor bbed...@japsolson.com
wrote:
 Hi Ken,
 Thanks for the recommendation.  Since I've just started using Legacy
I'm
 not that familiar with the MRIN, but it sounds like a useable system.
 Do you use MRIN filing method for documents (marriage certificates,
 census records, etc.) as well?

 Thanks,
 Brian

 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
 Behalf Of Bruce Jones
 Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:43 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Naming photos

 Here is what I am doing.
 Since I use the MRIN filing method, I label all pictures as follows:

 mrin-xPIC-name(s)-description

 Where x is H (Husband), W (Wife), C (Couple), or n (for unmarried
 children where 1 is the first child, 2 the second, etc.)
 If I have a group photo, I use the MRIN of either the primary
 person/couple or the oldest person/couple and use F (Family) or G
 (Group) for the x
 I am thinking of adding the date taken (or ABT as suggested by
 another) in part of the name.

 Just my 2 cents.


 On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Brian Beddor bbed...@japsolson.com
 wrote:
 Hi,
 Does anyone have any recommendations for how to name photos on one's
 computer?  I had started by saving them as last-name first-name
 date-taken.  That works well for pictures of only 1 person where I
 know
 the date it was taken.  It doesn't work all that well for group
 photos.
 Or old photos that I've scanned where I don't know the date it was
 taken.

 Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 Thanks,
 Brian



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Re: [LegacyUG] Old Style/New Style dates for pre 1754 England, how to enter

2009-02-14 Thread Dave Naylor
On 14 Feb 2009  Elizabeth wrote:

 My double dating system works beautifully with my English ancestors, but
 I now find that my early German ancestors are given the alternative
 dates as well.  Is it possible to allow double dates (ie b. 1 Jan
 1748/49) in general, but to override them for the dozen or so German
 ancestors? 

No!

Using Legacy's double-dating feature can cause many problems as it 
*assumes* that every country changed at the same time -- WRONG! -- 
and it assumes that dates are always entered in Old Style -- this 
can be WRONG!   I make sure that Legacy's double-dating feature is 
always turned off.

However, big problem . . . with Legacy's double-dating feature turned 
off you cannot enter your own double-dates as they should be 
represented without having them totally corrupted!!  So I end up 
entering them as, for example, 5 Jan 1723-5 Jan 1724

Sadly Millennia isn't willing to fix this BIG deficiency (reported 
many times over the years) in an otherwise fantastic program.

Cheers, -- Dave N.
-- 
  David Naylor, Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada. 
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[LegacyUG] Any News?

2009-02-14 Thread Todd Carnes
At the risk of incurring the wrath of, welleveryone, for asking this...

Any word on when (or if) the Sourcewriter Conversion tool will be released?

Todd




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[LegacyUG] Source templates

2009-02-14 Thread Mary White
Hi - I have just updated to Legacy 7 and I want to cite a source '  The
Luxford Saga A 500-year Family Odyssey England to New Zealand, Compiled by
Michael Raymus Butler.  i.e. book is not authored and not edited but
compiled.  Compiled by is commonly used in New Zealand genealogy circles
for family histories.  Please is anyone able to advise on how  I add
compiled by as a template option to select? 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Numbering Clipboard events

2009-02-14 Thread Barbara
Thanks Rich,  I will try.  The CD section is Mastering Events and 
Chronologies - Census

Barb in Jordan, NY


- Original Message - 
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Numbering Clipboard events


What he actually meant (my guess) is that when running reports, the report 
numbers itself. To see an example, go to Master Source List, tag a few of 
them, go to options, print, choose use 'Only tagged individuals', 'Master 
Sources and All Citations to each one', choose preview. Note the numbering 
after each item. If it looks like I am off, which CD, section do you mean? 
I will look and try to interpret what he said.

Rich in LA CA


--- On Sat, 2/14/09, Barbara bschwart...@twcny.rr.com wrote:


From: Barbara bschwart...@twcny.rr.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Numbering Clipboard events
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 10:44 AM
Hello, I have the latest version of Legacy and as a new
learner am struggling with source clipboard entry.  I also,
have listened to the video many many times and am missing
something.

Geoff says in the video that the names listed in an
individual's events from a census will automatically be
numbered.  Mine are not.  What am I not doing?

Thanks  Barb




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Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships

2009-02-14 Thread CE WOOD
Unfortunately, this is not the case.  Direct ancestors are not being identified 
correctly, such as my 27th GGF.  His mother is shown as my 24th GGA; his father 
as my 2nd cousin 23 times removed, and Relationship Calculator says there is no 
relationship between father and son, between mother and son, or between husband 
and wife!

And that's just one of the messed up ones.  It also happens as close as my 6th 
GGParents!

Brian is now working on it, but if anyone else is having problems with 
incorrect relationships, it would help them find the bug.

Carolyn
  - Original Message - 
  From: RICHARD SCHULTHIESmailto:fourpa...@verizon.net 
  To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 
  Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships


  I am guessing what is happening. Is that 'aunt' actually both of those 
numbers. For example, my son's relationship to Charlemange is over 48 different 
paths. Which is correct, his 37th ggfather (x2), 38th ggfather (x31), 39th 
ggfather (x15), or one of the various ways they are cousins.
  I believe the rule is to use the lowest number, adding the removed 'count' to 
it, so your 19th is lowest. Which line is the direct male line? Also, how many 
Blood Relationships are you using. I used 100 to recieve these from L7. 
  Using the Relationship Calculator, find ALL of the connections to two people. 
  I hope this helps.
  Rich in LA CA

  --- On Fri, 2/13/09, CE WOOD wood...@msn.commailto:wood...@msn.com wrote:

   From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.commailto:wood...@msn.com
   Subject: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
   To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
   Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 1:32 PM
   There is an ongoing problem with Relationship that Legacy
   can't seem to fix.
   
   For instance, my 22nd GGFather and GGMother had two
   children, each of whom is an ancestor of mine - one is my
   21st GGF, the other is incorrectly listed as my 19th GGAunt!
   
   Her husband is, accordingly, incorrectly listed as the
   Husband of my 19th GG Aunt.
   
   Their child is correctly listed as my 21st GGFather. 
   However, Legacy can find no relationship between him and his
   parents!!
   
   And, of course, the ancestors of HIS father, my incorrectly
   listed Husband of my 19th GGAunt, are not identified as my
   ancestors.
   
   Unfortunately, This is not an isolated occurrence; it
   occurs with too many of my ancestors, some as close as my
   6th GGParents!
   
   It doesn't  matter what limits I set on Blood or
   Non-blood Relationships; the relationships are still wrong!
   
   Generations are crucial to genealogy, and being unable to
   find my direct ancestors has become a MAJOR problem with
   this otherwise wonderful program.
   
   I have reported the problem to Legacy for more than a year.
It was going to be fixed in Legacy 7 but is actually worse.
Replies from support have been dismissive.
   
   Has anyone else encountered this problem, and, hopefully,
   found a solution?
   
   
   Carolyn
   
   
   
   
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RE: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships

2009-02-14 Thread ronald ferguson

Carolyn.
 
Did you try FileFile MaintenanceCheck/Repair?



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 From: wood...@msn.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
 Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:02:43 -0800











 Unfortunately, this is not the case. Direct ancestors are not being
 identified correctly, such as my 27th GGF. His mother is shown as my 24th
 GGA; his father as my 2nd cousin 23 times removed, and Relationship Calculator
 says there is no relationship between father and son, between mother and son, 
 or
 between husband and wife!



 And that's just one of the messed up ones. It also happens as close
 as my 6th GGParents!



 Brian is now working on it, but if anyone else is having problems with
 incorrect relationships, it would help them find the bug.



 Carolyn


 - Original Message -

 From: RICHARD
 SCHULTHIES

 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

 Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:13
 AM

 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect
 Relationships


 I am guessing what is happening. Is that 'aunt' actually both
 of those numbers. For example, my son's relationship to Charlemange is over 48
 different paths. Which is correct, his 37th ggfather (x2), 38th ggfather
 (x31), 39th ggfather (x15), or one of the various ways they are cousins.
 I
 believe the rule is to use the lowest number, adding the removed 'count' to
 it, so your 19th is lowest. Which line is the direct male line? Also, how many
 Blood Relationships are you using. I used 100 to recieve these from L7.

 Using the Relationship Calculator, find ALL of the connections to two
 people.
 I hope this helps.
 Rich in LA CA

 --- On Fri, 2/13/09, CE
 WOOD wrote:

 From:
 CE WOOD
 Subject:
 [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

 Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 1:32 PM
 There is an ongoing problem
 with Relationship that Legacy
 can't seem to fix.

 For
 instance, my 22nd GGFather and GGMother had two
 children, each of whom
 is an ancestor of mine - one is my
 21st GGF, the other is incorrectly
 listed as my 19th GGAunt!

 Her husband is, accordingly,
 incorrectly listed as the
 Husband of my 19th GG Aunt.


 Their child is correctly listed as my 21st GGFather.
 However, Legacy
 can find no relationship between him and his
 parents!!


 And, of course, the ancestors of HIS father, my incorrectly

 listed Husband of my 19th GGAunt, are not identified as my

 ancestors.

 Unfortunately, This is not an isolated occurrence;
 it
 occurs with too many of my ancestors, some as close as my

 6th GGParents!

 It doesn't matter what limits I set on
 Blood or
 Non-blood Relationships; the relationships are still
 wrong!

 Generations are crucial to genealogy, and being unable
 to
 find my direct ancestors has become a MAJOR problem with

 this otherwise wonderful program.

 I have reported the problem
 to Legacy for more than a year.
 It was going to be fixed in
 Legacy 7 but is actually worse.
 Replies from support have been
 dismissive.

 Has anyone else encountered this problem, and,
 hopefully,
 found a solution?


 Carolyn
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RE: [LegacyUG] Blank pages

2009-02-14 Thread ronald ferguson

Jane,
 
It is standard practice to have a blank page after the title page.
 
Regarding the blank page after each generation, this is because you have set it 
to start each generation on a new page and also to start it on an odd page. 
Uncheck the Start on a new page option on the first screen of the report.


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 Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 14:02:02 -0500
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Blank pages
 From: sarlesinsi...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

 In a Descendant Book Report, I get blank pages between the title page, and 
 also between generational sections. Big waste of paper. I cannot see where I 
 avoid all the blank pages. Help?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Numbering Clipboard events

2009-02-14 Thread Janis L Gilmore
Barbara,

I may wildly misunderstanding the question ­ but there is a section of the
video where Geoff explains how he enters census data in the notes of a
census event. He numbers the household members. That is not automatic
numbering ­ you just number them yourself.

(Okay, that is probably stating the obvious, but just in case...)

Janis


On 2/14/09 1:44 PM, Barbara bschwart...@twcny.rr.com wrote:

 Hello, I have the latest version of Legacy and as a new learner am struggling
 with source clipboard entry.  I also, have listened to the video many many
 times and am missing something.
  
 Geoff says in the video that the names listed in an individual's events from a
 census will automatically be numbered.  Mine are not.  What am I not doing?
  
 Thanks  Barb
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Re: [LegacyUG] Blank pages

2009-02-14 Thread Jane Sarles
Ron,

Thank you.  I found the option you mentioned and changed it. I am OK about
the blank page after the title, but wish I could change it.  I know it is
according to Hoyle, but stil...


Jane


On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 4:26 PM, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote:


 Jane,

 It is standard practice to have a blank page after the title page.

 Regarding the blank page after each generation, this is because you have
 set it to start each generation on a new page and also to start it on an odd
 page. Uncheck the Start on a new page option on the first screen of the
 report.


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  Subject: [LegacyUG] Blank pages
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  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 
  In a Descendant Book Report, I get blank pages between the title page,
 and also between generational sections. Big waste of paper. I cannot see
 where I avoid all the blank pages. Help?
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Blank pages

2009-02-14 Thread Jenny M Benson

Jane Sarles wrote
In a Descendant Book Report, I get blank pages between the title page, 
and also between generational sections.  Big waste of paper.  I cannot 
see where I avoid all the blank pages.  Help?


On the Page Layout tab, make sure you have not checked Start new page 
after each generation and Start on an odd page number.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships

2009-02-14 Thread CE WOOD
Countless numbers of times.

Carolyn
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  Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:12 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships



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   From: wood...@msn.commailto:wood...@msn.com
   To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
   Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
   Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:02:43 -0800
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Unfortunately, this is not the case. Direct ancestors are not being
   identified correctly, such as my 27th GGF. His mother is shown as my 24th
   GGA; his father as my 2nd cousin 23 times removed, and Relationship 
Calculator
   says there is no relationship between father and son, between mother and 
son, or
   between husband and wife!
  
  
  
   And that's just one of the messed up ones. It also happens as close
   as my 6th GGParents!
  
  
  
   Brian is now working on it, but if anyone else is having problems with
   incorrect relationships, it would help them find the bug.
  
  
  
   Carolyn
  
  
   - Original Message -
  
   From: RICHARD
   SCHULTHIES
  
   To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  
   Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:13
   AM
  
   Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect
   Relationships
  
  
   I am guessing what is happening. Is that 'aunt' actually both
   of those numbers. For example, my son's relationship to Charlemange is over 
48
   different paths. Which is correct, his 37th ggfather (x2), 38th ggfather
   (x31), 39th ggfather (x15), or one of the various ways they are cousins.
   I
   believe the rule is to use the lowest number, adding the removed 'count' to
   it, so your 19th is lowest. Which line is the direct male line? Also, how 
many
   Blood Relationships are you using. I used 100 to recieve these from L7.
  
   Using the Relationship Calculator, find ALL of the connections to two
   people.
   I hope this helps.
   Rich in LA CA
  
   --- On Fri, 2/13/09, CE
   WOOD wrote:
  
   From:
   CE WOOD
   Subject:
   [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
   To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  
   Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 1:32 PM
   There is an ongoing problem
   with Relationship that Legacy
   can't seem to fix.
  
   For
   instance, my 22nd GGFather and GGMother had two
   children, each of whom
   is an ancestor of mine - one is my
   21st GGF, the other is incorrectly
   listed as my 19th GGAunt!
  
   Her husband is, accordingly,
   incorrectly listed as the
   Husband of my 19th GG Aunt.
  
  
   Their child is correctly listed as my 21st GGFather.
   However, Legacy
   can find no relationship between him and his
   parents!!
  
  
   And, of course, the ancestors of HIS father, my incorrectly
  
   listed Husband of my 19th GGAunt, are not identified as my
  
   ancestors.
  
   Unfortunately, This is not an isolated occurrence;
   it
   occurs with too many of my ancestors, some as close as my
  
   6th GGParents!
  
   It doesn't matter what limits I set on
   Blood or
   Non-blood Relationships; the relationships are still
   wrong!
  
   Generations are crucial to genealogy, and being unable
   to
   find my direct ancestors has become a MAJOR problem with
  
   this otherwise wonderful program.
  
   I have reported the problem
   to Legacy for more than a year.
   It was going to be fixed in
   Legacy 7 but is actually worse.
   Replies from support have been
   dismissive.
  
   Has anyone else encountered this problem, and,
   hopefully,
   found a solution?
  
  
   Carolyn
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source templates

2009-02-14 Thread Jenny M Benson

Mary White wrote
Hi - I have just updated to Legacy 7 and I want to cite a source ' The 
Luxford Saga A 500-year Family Odyssey England to New Zealand, 
Compiled by Michael Raymus Butler.  i.e. book is not authored and not 
edited but compiled.  Compiled by is commonly used in New Zealand 
genealogy circles for family histories.  Please is anyone able to 
advise on how  I add

compiled by as a template option to select?


I would use the Editor - Editor known option and then use Override to 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Blank pages

2009-02-14 Thread ronald ferguson

Jane,
 
I mistyped my last email - I should have said uncheck the start on an odd page 
number option, Sorry.



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 From: ronfe...@msn.com
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Blank pages
 Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:26:20 +


 Jane,

 It is standard practice to have a blank page after the title page.

 Regarding the blank page after each generation, this is because you have set 
 it to start each generation on a new page and also to start it on an odd 
 page. Uncheck the Start on a new page option on the first screen of the 
 report.


 Ron Ferguson

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 View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
 For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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 Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 14:02:02 -0500
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Blank pages
 From: sarlesinsi...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

 In a Descendant Book Report, I get blank pages between the title page, and 
 also between generational sections. Big waste of paper. I cannot see where I 
 avoid all the blank pages. Help?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships

2009-02-14 Thread John S. Adams
I think the Relationship Calculator is, in theory, a great tool.  I really 
like the charts it produces showing the relationships of distant cousins. 
HOWEVER, I have almost stopped using it because it is so rife with errors 
and has been from at least Legacy 5.0.  The most obvious is that, with some 
multiple relationships, if you click the Swap button, different 
relationships are displayed, which is wrong.  Less obvious problems can be 
found if one traces relationships by hand and then uses the calculator.  I 
found one case where a generation was skipped.  The problems are 
ongoing--Legacy has solved some, but others persist.  Every time I look at 
it and try different relationships, I find more problems.  There was a 
thread on this subject in Aug 2006.  Some of the problems discussed then 
involved 1/2 relationships and some of those have been fixed, but I can 
still produce at least one.


I hope that Legacy can do a thorough redesign of the RC soon and it becomes 
a reliable tool.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.com
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships

Unfortunately, this is not the case.  Direct ancestors are not being 
identified correctly, such as my 27th GGF.  His mother is shown as my 24th 
GGA; his father as my 2nd cousin 23 times removed, and Relationship 
Calculator says there is no relationship between father and son, between 
mother and son, or between husband and wife!


And that's just one of the messed up ones.  It also happens as close as my 
6th GGParents!


Brian is now working on it, but if anyone else is having problems with 
incorrect relationships, it would help them find the bug.


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[LegacyUG] Father/Mother-to-child relationship gedcom export?

2009-02-14 Thread Chris Staats
Hi list - 

Not realizing initially that the Relationship to father and Relationship to 
mother fields were indicating the nature of the relationship (adopted, 
biological, etc), I have for years used this to source evidence linking 
children to parents. For example: if I have a court case linking a father to a 
son, I would cite that case as a source document under the relationship to 
father section. This is fine when viewing or printing from within Legacy, as 
they are listed in the source list in the report. However, these fields do not 
appear to be available for gedcom export, which I need to revamp my website. 

Is there a way to force those fields to export, or am I going to have to go 
back and move all of those relationships documented that way to another field 
(i.e. birth)?

Thank you for any help!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Father/Mother-to-child relationship gedcom export?

2009-02-14 Thread Michele Lewis
I use the relationship to father/mother all the time.  I try to assign a source 
to each one because that shows HOW I proved a particular child is the child of 
particular parents.   I leave the actually status blank (or I will switch it to 
adopted or step if I need to) but then I assign a source to it.  For example, 
let's say I am looking at the 1910 census and the children are listed as sons 
or daughters then I will put the census as a source in the relationship spot.  

michele
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  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 7:51 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Father/Mother-to-child relationship gedcom export?


  Hi list - 

  Not realizing initially that the Relationship to father and Relationship to 
mother fields were indicating the nature of the relationship (adopted, 
biological, etc), I have for years used this to source evidence linking 
children to parents. For example: if I have a court case linking a father to a 
son, I would cite that case as a source document under the relationship to 
father section. This is fine when viewing or printing from within Legacy, as 
they are listed in the source list in the report. However, these fields do not 
appear to be available for gedcom export, which I need to revamp my website. 

  Is there a way to force those fields to export, or am I going to have to go 
back and move all of those relationships documented that way to another field 
(i.e. birth)?

  Thank you for any help!

  Chris Staats

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[LegacyUG] Godparents

2009-02-14 Thread v pedersen
Hello,


I am wondering how various Legacy users enter godparent information.  

I checked in the archive and see references to an event called 
Godfather/Godmother, but I don't have that event listed in my events.  I 
realize that I could create such an event, but before I do that, I would like 
to know how others enter godparent information.

For now, I am interested in how to enter a child's godparents.  Are there any 
thoughts on entering this information into the baptism notes or entering it as 
an event in the Events/Facts area?  

Also, any thoughts on entering the godparents together as one event or list the 
godfather and godmother separately?  

Thank you,

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[LegacyUG] 1st and 2nd spouses reversed AND duplicated names for spouses

2009-02-14 Thread Meg Greenwood
It looks like I may be reversing several hundred spouse orders in the 
near future.  The method of using the up/down arrows when viewing the 
spouses works but its going to be a tedious job.  I cannot understand 
why v7 would not be able to sort out 2 dates so one would be before the 
other. Same formats for dates both in acceptable styles [like 2 Sep, 
1884 and 18 Jan, 1898].  The reversed names were not like this on v4. 

I've  not yet printed out any Legacy reports in v7, only a few family 
group sheets in v4. Is there a method whereby I can find all the people 
with 2 or more spouses linked to them ?  Even if its just a report, I 
can then find them from the printed list.  Otherwise it seems there may 
be no way to find all the names needing reversed other than trial and 
error.  

And a new problem has been found with ONE marriage I've found [so 
far]both husband and wife have their spouses listed TWICE.  Its as 
if they divorced and then re-married each other.  They didn't marry 
anyone but each otherand it was only once.  There are not duplicate 
names in the Index, so I cannot delete one of them, I tried and was 
warned of severing relationships I did not wish to sever.  This showed 
up after the move to v7 as its a family I visit often for references.


More ideas pleaseor should I re-install v7 ?  We can hopefully find 
where the Legacy file is stored that we used for the move from v4.  Meg 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

2009-02-14 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Dave:

In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital
images of things that are readily available online.  This could be dangerous
with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records
will someday *not* be available in some form.  I do, however, put a full
transcription of the family's listing in my source notes.

Kirsten

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Behalf Of Dave Johnson
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages


For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my
family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc.  I have
used the SourceWriter to document each entry.

For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone
back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the data
quickly.  This tells me that my source details pass the test of
findability.

Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of each
census record to include with each reference to the census document in
Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events.

How would you professionals answer this query?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

2009-02-14 Thread Michele Lewis
I agree with Kirsten.  I do not make copies of readily available images that 
are online.


michele

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Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:41 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages



Dave:

In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital
images of things that are readily available online.  This could be 
dangerous

with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records
will someday *not* be available in some form.  I do, however, put a full
transcription of the family's listing in my source notes.

Kirsten

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Dave Johnson
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages


For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my
family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc.  I 
have

used the SourceWriter to document each entry.

For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone
back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the data
quickly.  This tells me that my source details pass the test of
findability.

Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of 
each

census record to include with each reference to the census document in
Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events.

How would you professionals answer this query?

Dave









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RE: [LegacyUG] 1st and 2nd spouses reversed AND duplicated names for spouses

2009-02-14 Thread ronald ferguson

Meg,
 
Firstly I had no problems with families when upgrading from V6 to V7. I would 
suggest with your duplicate family that you unlink and then relink. I cannot 
see that reinstalling Legacy would achieve anything as the problem is in your 
files - before unlinking you might like to try running FileFile 
MaintenanceCheck/Repair a couple of times.
 
I do not know about V4 but I am from V5 onwards it has not been possible to 
globally sort marriages and frankly I can see only a disater in waiting should 
it be possible.
 
As I said in a previous email, frequently I find that I do not have a date for 
a second or later marriage. If there was a global sort by date these would 
become the 1st marriage - disaster! Are you really saying that you have dates 
for all your multiple marriages becasue I certainly haven't and I doubt if many 
of us have?



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 Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:25:43 -0600
 From: scotques...@bartnet.net
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] 1st and 2nd spouses reversed AND duplicated names for 
 spouses

 It looks like I may be reversing several hundred spouse orders in the
 near future. The method of using the up/down arrows when viewing the
 spouses works but its going to be a tedious job. I cannot understand
 why v7 would not be able to sort out 2 dates so one would be before the
 other. Same formats for dates both in acceptable styles [like 2 Sep,
 1884 and 18 Jan, 1898]. The reversed names were not like this on v4.

 I've not yet printed out any Legacy reports in v7, only a few family
 group sheets in v4. Is there a method whereby I can find all the people
 with 2 or more spouses linked to them ? Even if its just a report, I
 can then find them from the printed list. Otherwise it seems there may
 be no way to find all the names needing reversed other than trial and
 error.

 And a new problem has been found with ONE marriage I've found [so
 far]both husband and wife have their spouses listed TWICE. Its as
 if they divorced and then re-married each other. They didn't marry
 anyone but each otherand it was only once. There are not duplicate
 names in the Index, so I cannot delete one of them, I tried and was
 warned of severing relationships I did not wish to sever. This showed
 up after the move to v7 as its a family I visit often for references.

 More ideas pleaseor should I re-install v7 ? We can hopefully find
 where the Legacy file is stored that we used for the move from v4. Meg
 Greenwood
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[LegacyUG] A further enquiry re printing photographs

2009-02-14 Thread June Chan
Making new events and adding photographs has worked - thanks.

Could anyone now tell me whether it is possible to reposition the pictures
so that they are not all printing one under another on the side of the page.
Is it possible to reposition them and do a text wrap?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

2009-02-14 Thread ronald ferguson

Kirsten,
 
Just out of interest, why do you transcribe the census details rather than 
attach the image to your Source Detail?
 
This is what I do, not only for the reason you give but also because I have 
immediate access to the census image should I wish to check something eg a 
questionable age for a person.



Ron Ferguson

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 From: vik...@rvi.net
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
 Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:41:37 -0800

 Dave:

 In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital
 images of things that are readily available online. This could be dangerous
 with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records
 will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full
 transcription of the family's listing in my source notes.

 Kirsten

 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
 Behalf Of Dave Johnson
 Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:11 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages


 For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my
 family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc. I have
 used the SourceWriter to document each entry.

 For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone
 back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the data
 quickly. This tells me that my source details pass the test of
 findability.

 Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of each
 census record to include with each reference to the census document in
 Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events.

 How would you professionals answer this query?

 Dave


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Re: [LegacyUG] 1st and 2nd spouses reversed AND duplicated names for spouses

2009-02-14 Thread Gary Templeman


- Original Message - 
From: Meg Greenwood scotques...@bartnet.net


And a new problem has been found with ONE marriage I've found [so 
far]both husband and wife have their spouses listed TWICE.  Its as if 
they divorced and then re-married each other.  They didn't marry anyone 
but each otherand it was only once.  There are not duplicate names in 
the Index, so I cannot delete one of them, I tried and was warned of 
severing relationships I did not wish to sever.  This showed up after the 
move to v7 as its a family I visit often for references.


More ideas pleaseor should I re-install v7 ?  We can hopefully find 
where the Legacy file is stored that we used for the move from v4.  Meg 
Greenwood

===


Sounds like you simply have a duplicate marriage. First, have you run file 
check/repair? If that doesn't fix it, then select one marriage and make sure 
all and any children are linked there, then delete the other marriage. This 
seems more like a database problem, which may have already been present and 
was magnified when you converted. Reinstalling the program will not change 
those problems. The warning is just to have you confirm you are doing the 
right thing, but to be safe you should always make a backup before those 
kinds of changes, then you can get back to the current situation if you 
screw it up.


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RE: [LegacyUG] A further enquiry re printing photographs

2009-02-14 Thread ronald ferguson


June,
 
Not from within Legacy, but it can be done by saving as an rtf and opeing it in 
Word or OpenOffice.org Writer.


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 From: mai_l...@aapt.net.au
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] A further enquiry re printing photographs
 Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:52:47 +1000

 Making new events and adding photographs has worked - thanks.

 Could anyone now tell me whether it is possible to reposition the pictures
 so that they are not all printing one under another on the side of the page.
 Is it possible to reposition them and do a text wrap?

 Thank you - June
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RE: [LegacyUG] A further enquiry re printing photographs

2009-02-14 Thread June Chan
I've found it thank you - I should have checked the help file first. I can
see that I can save it if RTF and then work on setting how I want it as a
document on my computer.

Thanks - June


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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] A further enquiry re printing photographs


Making new events and adding photographs has worked - thanks.

Could anyone now tell me whether it is possible to reposition the pictures
so that they are not all printing one under another on the side of the page.
Is it possible to reposition them and do a text wrap?






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Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

2009-02-14 Thread Michele Lewis

Because I would have THOUSANDS of images attached to my file.

michele

- Original Message - 
From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com

To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:57 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages



Kirsten,

Just out of interest, why do you transcribe the census details rather than 
attach the image to your Source Detail?


This is what I do, not only for the reason you give but also because I have 
immediate access to the census image should I wish to check something eg a 
questionable age for a person.




Ron Ferguson

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http://www.fergys.co.uk
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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From: vik...@rvi.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:41:37 -0800

Dave:

In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital
images of things that are readily available online. This could be 
dangerous

with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records
will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full
transcription of the family's listing in my source notes.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Dave Johnson
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages


For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my
family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc. I have
used the SourceWriter to document each entry.

For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone
back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the data
quickly. This tells me that my source details pass the test of
findability.

Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of 
each

census record to include with each reference to the census document in
Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events.

How would you professionals answer this query?

Dave



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[LegacyUG] Putting Ancestry images into Legacy

2009-02-14 Thread Meg Greenwood
In trying to get a lot of different types of images added to one person 
as a test run...I have seen that Ancestry's viewable images for a census 
are of a nicely high resolution.  However, when printed out, or saved 
[as you'd do to get it into Legacy], the quality is lessened and the 
image if saved. added to a person's page and then viewed from the 
thumbnail is horrid, nowhere near the original. 

We finally did a Print Screen of the original census view and it was 
finally very goodproviding the image was close up and did not have 
to be full page.  If your quarry was on the first 10 lines or so, the 
image in the Print Screen was very clear and could be zoomed in nicely 
for further exam.  However, if your quarry was farther down the page, 
you had to zoom out for a full page shot, the Print Screen image was 
just as bad as Ancestry's first downloaded ones.


We think this is because Ancestry wishes to SELL you the higher quality 
image rather than let you have it for free as a download.  There is a 
handy button near 'print' allowing you to order the better image from 
Ancestry.  So my goal to add the original census image for a lot of 
names may not work as well as I had planned.Anyone have another idea 
for obtaining a nice quality image off of Ancestry ?  No copyright 
issues to be skirted, just wanting to put them into Legacy with the 
linked name. Meg Greenwood

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Re: [LegacyUG] 1st and 2nd spouses reversed AND duplicated names for spouses

2009-02-14 Thread JCTripp
Meg,
In version 6 Deluxe, (I assume Ver 7 Deluxe is the same).
You can select SORT instead of using the up and down arrows to sort by date 
those marriages with dates. Of course, its one at a time; Same Family view 
screen, right click to view husband or wife list, select sort to sort 
marriages by date.

To find 2 or more spouses linked, just use a search. Select Search; Find; 
Misc Search; Individuals with multiple spouses. Create your list or just 
'Find First' . The individuals are displayed in the Family View. Just Right 
click as above  SORT to sort dates. I suggest F3 to find the next 
individual.
If you list by RIN, I think the stopping steps are easier. That is you can 
write down the last RIN fixed. Next session, select search, then select 
'View Search List' and start off with the next RIN. Of course, printing the 
list might give you more peace of mind.

You have one marriage with same spouses married and remarried. Others can 
help you on this, but I'm wondering if
the MRIN is unique for each marriage and
the RIN for each partner is the same and
the date  location is exactly the same and
source is exactly the same.
I think this info may help those who can help you with this problem.
Your switch is from Ver 4 Deluxe to Ver 7 Deluxe, correct?
Regards, Jane Tripp


- Original Message - 
From: Meg Greenwood
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:25 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] 1st and 2nd spouses reversed AND duplicated names for 
spouses


It looks like I may be reversing several hundred spouse orders in the
near future.  The method of using the up/down arrows when viewing the
spouses works but its going to be a tedious job.  I cannot understand
why v7 would not be able to sort out 2 dates so one would be before the
other. Same formats for dates both in acceptable styles [like 2 Sep,
1884 and 18 Jan, 1898].  The reversed names were not like this on v4.

I've  not yet printed out any Legacy reports in v7, only a few family
group sheets in v4. Is there a method whereby I can find all the people
with 2 or more spouses linked to them ?  Even if its just a report, I
can then find them from the printed list.  Otherwise it seems there may
be no way to find all the names needing reversed other than trial and
error.

And a new problem has been found with ONE marriage I've found [so
far]both husband and wife have their spouses listed TWICE.  Its as
if they divorced and then re-married each other.  They didn't marry
anyone but each otherand it was only once.  There are not duplicate
names in the Index, so I cannot delete one of them, I tried and was
warned of severing relationships I did not wish to sever.  This showed
up after the move to v7 as its a family I visit often for references.

More ideas pleaseor should I re-install v7 ?  We can hopefully find
where the Legacy file is stored that we used for the move from v4.  Meg
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Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

2009-02-14 Thread debbiebyers62
I personally do as Ron does, I attach the images to the source detail.  I 
want cold hard proof and a comprehensive, complete data file.  Saves trees.


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From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:54 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages


Because I would have THOUSANDS of images attached to my file.

michele

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From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com

To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:57 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages



Kirsten,

Just out of interest, why do you transcribe the census details rather than 
attach the image to your Source Detail?


This is what I do, not only for the reason you give but also because I 
have immediate access to the census image should I wish to check something 
eg a questionable age for a person.




Ron Ferguson

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http://www.fergys.co.uk
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http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
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http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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From: vik...@rvi.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:41:37 -0800

Dave:

In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital
images of things that are readily available online. This could be 
dangerous

with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records
will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full
transcription of the family's listing in my source notes.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Dave Johnson
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages


For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my
family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc. I 
have

used the SourceWriter to document each entry.

For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone
back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the 
data

quickly. This tells me that my source details pass the test of
findability.

Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of 
each

census record to include with each reference to the census document in
Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events.

How would you professionals answer this query?

Dave



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Re: [LegacyUG] Blank pages

2009-02-14 Thread JLB


I don't know the answer except to say when my printer spits out blank 
pages I re-use them.  No waste there.

-
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Jane Sarles wrote:
In a Descendant Book Report, I get blank pages between the title page, 
and also between generational sections.  Big waste of paper.  I cannot 
see where I avoid all the blank pages.  Help?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Putting Ancestry images into Legacy

2009-02-14 Thread carogene
I use the free programme called Irvanview to crop and print my census
images. That way when printing, you do not get all the nasty black edges. I
also use this programme together with the 'print screen' facility when
saving newspaper articles and printing out from the digital photos of
documents.
Its a very handy tool and free!
Carolyn


Re: [LegacyUG] Naming photos

2009-02-14 Thread JLB

Yes. One for each. Anyway, that's how I do it.
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Brian Beddor wrote:

Hi Bruce,
Thanks!

Another question with regards to census.  I can see doing it exactly as
you state if there is only one household that I'm interested in on the
sheet/document.  But, what about if there are two?  Say Bob and Pete
Smith are brothers and each have a family and they live next door to
each other and appear on the same census page?   Would you just
duplicate it and have one labeled with the MRIN for Bob and the other
labeled for the MRIN for Pete?  
Or, should I make this census record a Master Source document?


Appreciating your help,
Brian

*

Brian,
Yes I do.  they would be
mrin-xMAR-name-description
mrin-xCEN-name-description
mrin-xBIR-name-description
mrin-xDEA-name-description

Hope that helps,
Bruce

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Brian Beddor bbed...@japsolson.com
wrote:
  

Hi Ken,
Thanks for the recommendation.  Since I've just started using Legacy


I'm
  

not that familiar with the MRIN, but it sounds like a useable system.
Do you use MRIN filing method for documents (marriage certificates,
census records, etc.) as well?

Thanks,
Brian

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf Of Bruce Jones
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Naming photos

Here is what I am doing.
Since I use the MRIN filing method, I label all pictures as follows:

mrin-xPIC-name(s)-description

Where x is H (Husband), W (Wife), C (Couple), or n (for unmarried
children where 1 is the first child, 2 the second, etc.)
If I have a group photo, I use the MRIN of either the primary
person/couple or the oldest person/couple and use F (Family) or G
(Group) for the x
I am thinking of adding the date taken (or ABT as suggested by
another) in part of the name.

Just my 2 cents.


On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Brian Beddor bbed...@japsolson.com
wrote:


Hi,
Does anyone have any recommendations for how to name photos on one's
computer?  I had started by saving them as last-name first-name
date-taken.  That works well for pictures of only 1 person where I
  

know


the date it was taken.  It doesn't work all that well for group
  

photos.


Or old photos that I've scanned where I don't know the date it was
taken.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

2009-02-14 Thread JLB
They're not 'attached', they're linked.  I have thousands and it doesn't 
create any problem I know of.

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Michele Lewis wrote:


Because I would have THOUSANDS of images attached to my file.

michele

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To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:57 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages



Kirsten,

Just out of interest, why do you transcribe the census details rather 
than attach the image to your Source Detail?


This is what I do, not only for the reason you give but also because I 
have immediate access to the census image should I wish to check 
something eg a questionable age for a person.




Ron Ferguson

_

*New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database
http://www.fergys.co.uk
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_










From: vik...@rvi.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:41:37 -0800

Dave:

In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or 
digital
images of things that are readily available online. This could be 
dangerous
with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census 
records

will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full
transcription of the family's listing in my source notes.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Dave Johnson
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages


For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my
family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc. I 
have

used the SourceWriter to document each entry.

For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have 
gone
back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the 
data

quickly. This tells me that my source details pass the test of
findability.

Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy 
of each

census record to include with each reference to the census document in
Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events.

How would you professionals answer this query?

Dave



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Re: [LegacyUG] Putting Ancestry images into Legacy

2009-02-14 Thread Erin Bradshaw

Meg,

This is what I do.  I choose a higher quality print from my printer 
depending on the scanned image.  If it is clear and easily read I choose 
Text and Image, if the original microfilm was a poorer quality therefore a 
poorer scan the I choose Photo  plain paper.  I then scan it into my 
computer or I just choose save and then choose to my computer.  I can then 
crop the excess black.


Erin
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From: Meg Greenwood scotques...@bartnet.net

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 7:49 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Putting Ancestry images into Legacy


In trying to get a lot of different types of images added to one person as 
a test run...I have seen that Ancestry's viewable images for a census are 
of a nicely high resolution.  However, when printed out, or saved [as 
you'd do to get it into Legacy], the quality is lessened and the image if 
saved. added to a person's page and then viewed from the thumbnail is 
horrid, nowhere near the original.
We finally did a Print Screen of the original census view and it was 
finally very goodproviding the image was close up and did not have to 
be full page.  If your quarry was on the first 10 lines or so, the image 
in the Print Screen was very clear and could be zoomed in nicely for 
further exam.  However, if your quarry was farther down the page, you had 
to zoom out for a full page shot, the Print Screen image was just as bad 
as Ancestry's first downloaded ones.


We think this is because Ancestry wishes to SELL you the higher quality 
image rather than let you have it for free as a download.  There is a 
handy button near 'print' allowing you to order the better image from 
Ancestry.  So my goal to add the original census image for a lot of names 
may not work as well as I had planned.Anyone have another idea for 
obtaining a nice quality image off of Ancestry ?  No copyright issues to 
be skirted, just wanting to put them into Legacy with the linked name. Meg 
Greenwood

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Re: [LegacyUG] Godparents

2009-02-14 Thread Paulette Martinez
Hello,

I list the godfather and godmother separately.  I also use the clipboard to
make a copy of the event to enter it in the godfather and godmother
records where I modify the description field to show Godfather of .  I
do the same thing for the  witnesses,

Paulette
Camarillo, CA
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 6:07 PM, v pedersen amigo...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Hello,


 I am wondering how various Legacy users enter godparent information.

 I checked in the archive and see references to an event called
 Godfather/Godmother, but I don't have that event listed in my events.  I
 realize that I could create such an event, but before I do that, I would
 like to know how others enter godparent information.

 For now, I am interested in how to enter a child's godparents.  Are there
 any thoughts on entering this information into the baptism notes or entering
 it as an event in the Events/Facts area?

 Also, any thoughts on entering the godparents together as one event or list
 the godfather and godmother separately?

 Thank you,

 Vicki



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Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

2009-02-14 Thread carogene
JL,

This sounds good to me, how about providing a simple step by step guide for
us to follow please.
Using nana' steps for me please!
I have managed to link pictures using the picture centre process, and have
them stored in the Legacy pictures folder within my C drive.
So maybe its a similar process?
Cheers
Carolyn


Re: [LegacyUG] Putting Ancestry images into Legacy

2009-02-14 Thread CE WOOD
It's Irfanview.
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  Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Putting Ancestry images into Legacy


  I use the free programme called Irvanview to crop and print my census images. 
That way when printing, you do not get all the nasty black edges. I also use 
this programme together with the 'print screen' facility when saving newspaper 
articles and printing out from the digital photos of documents.
  Its a very handy tool and free!
  Carolyn






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Re: [LegacyUG] Any News?

2009-02-14 Thread Richard Van Wasshnova
Or restoring permission to merge old into new source as in v 7.0.0.55?
-- 
Richard Van Wasshnova
http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Todd Carnes toddcar...@gmail.com wrote:
 At the risk of incurring the wrath of, welleveryone, for asking this...

 Any word on when (or if) the Sourcewriter Conversion tool will be released?

 Todd



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RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

2009-02-14 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Ron:

I transcribe the census listings in source notes because the two main uses
for my database are for posting at RootsWeb (where attachments wouldn't be
allowed) and for sharing reports with other researchers (who can verify the
images themselves if they wish).  I especially like having the transcription
as a source note because I can add comments regarding conflicts, spelling
variations, etc.

Kirsten

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Behalf Of ronald ferguson
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:58 PM
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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages



Kirsten,

Just out of interest, why do you transcribe the census details rather than
attach the image to your Source Detail?

This is what I do, not only for the reason you give but also because I have
immediate access to the census image should I wish to check something eg a
questionable age for a person.



Ron Ferguson

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 From: vik...@rvi.net
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
 Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:41:37 -0800

 Dave:

 In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital
 images of things that are readily available online. This could be
dangerous
 with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records
 will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full
 transcription of the family's listing in my source notes.

 Kirsten





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