RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Out of interest, as I have no way of replicating your problem, why have you limited the number of Blood Relationships to 50? It seems to me that with 29 generations you will exceed that number by far. The default is, of course, 999. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:42:51 -0700 Just do a search of the LUG archives on this, and you will discover that this problem is an very old one. FOLLOW-UP EMAIL TO BRIAN THAT WAS NOT RESPONDED TO AND WAS A FOLLOW-UP TO AN EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: It is not just one family where this occurs, but ALL families where the ascents result in, for instance, a 29th GGancestor being the son/daughter of a 26th GGancestor. The program will simply not list that son/daughter, who IS a direct ancestor, as being a GGGrandfather/GGGrandmother - not even in the additional relationships! At the very least, warn people of this flaw in the program, and advise then to rely on Ancestor Color Coding and Direct Line Bolding instead. Of course then, we cannot not know the generation number of the ancestor, but at least Legacy won't be displaying the wrong relationship the way it does now. PREVIOUS EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: Using Blood Rels = 50 and Non-blood = 10: Bernard is listed countless times as 28th GGUncle and countless times as 29th GGUncle. Following down his descendants, who as he, are correctly color-coded, preferred direct line bold, and ancestor tagged, his GGGranddaughter is finally shown having an additional relationship of 29th GGM. But I suspect that is only because Calculator was able to figure out that her husband was 29th GGF. Now please explain why her ancestors, back to the father of my incorrectly calculated 28th GGU, cannot be calculated. There is a flaw in the Calculator, or else it is useless when the going gets tough! Legacy can't seem to calculate how a 29th GGM of mine, Milia, can be the 2nd GGD of another of my 29th GGMs (and 29th GGFs), so it just makes the intervening ancestors not direct ancestors. Also, Berenger, Milia's 3rd GGF, father of the incorrectly marked 28th GGU, is related as my 29th GGF, as my 30th GGF, and as husband of my 29th GGM, BUT only through his daughter, full sister of the incorrectly marked 28th GGU. He is related through both his daughter and son, incorrectly calculated as 28th GGU. Ancestry color coding, preferred direct line, and ancestor tagging can all find that relationship; just not the Calculator! I really don't care about the extraneous relationships. What is IMPORTANT is the DIRECT ancestral line, which Relationship Calculator can't do. I'll bet that if the Calculator wasn't trying to figure the CLOSEST relationship, it could calculate correctly. Relationship Calculator obviously can't figure this out, as others reported YEARS AGO, so you should warn people that it can't do the calculations when they get complicated!!! CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:55 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart It has always worked for me. It is to show the path between two people. If there are multiple paths, the computer uses a sort technique judging which should come first. When I have used it to show my son's connection to Charlemange, it came up with over fifty diffferent paths. I neither confirmed nor judged if the order of the lists was accurate. I guess I didn't understand why you thought it outputting errors. Sorry if I missunderstand the issue. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:49:36 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart That would be fine for collecting the data, IF ONLY RELATIOSHIP CALCULATOR WORKED! My many requests and emails to Brian have elicited neither an explanation for this long-standing problem with Relationship Calculator, nor a solution. Old LUG posts attest to this being unresolved for many years CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Sherry/Support Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
michael barberi wrote Hence, I created an Event called Residence History. In the Event notes section, I list by year, the person's residence addresses. Sometimes I will include a key life-event in parenthesis (e.g., death, birth, marriage) to add perspective. I think this is an excellent idea! It's one which I may well adopt myself. I had already thought of compressing, for example, military history into one Event. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information
Paula, I primarily use the Family Group Report. I've found that this helps me to see how my Events and Sources will appear in other reports. The other reports I use the most are the Ancestor Report and the Descendant Report, depending on who's asking for information. I'm still in Search and Source mode for most of my lines, so I haven't tackled the bigger Book Reports yet. I use the Pedigree Report for my files, just to keep a handle on who fits where in the tree, since I'm working on my family as well as my husband's. I've certainly learned that I tend to make things more complex than they need to be and I'm trying to work on that. That's why I'm willing to learn from the long-time pros in the LUG! Dede P.S. My 24 year old son's favorite is the Ancestor Fan Chart, from Legacy Charting. He didn't really care about genealogy until I printed his for the first time. It was an AHA moment for him! On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Dede, Which reports do you use the most? Thanks, --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:56:15 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information Alan, I'm not quite sure what you meant by you don't use the default Census event but instead use an event for each Census? I use the default Census event, but the description, date, and place tailor it to each particular census. I started out putting the census details in the Source Detail Text field. Then I realized every time I cited the census, and printed the details, the reports became very cumbersome. So now I handle the census like Michele does. Event = Census Description = US Federal Date = 1930 (I am not as detailed here as Michele is) Location = Vicksburg, Warren, Mississippi, USA The Notes look like this: living at 735 Thomas St. Harry Thompson, head, owns home, value $4800, no radio, age 48, married at age 32, born in Miss., father born in Miss., mother born in Texas, conductor for steam railroad Ione Thompson, wife, age 40, married at at 24, born in Miss., parents born in Miss. Ethel E. Whitehead, sister-in-law, female, age 37, widowed, born in Miss., parents born in Miss., employed as saleslady at 5 and 10 store. Nora L. Whitehead, niece, age 17, single, born in Miss., parents born in Miss. In the reports it reads, He appeared on the US Federal census in 1930 living at 735 Thomas St As far as the Source citation goes, I have used the Sourcewriter template and I have a census source for each year, state, and county. I name them like this: Census: 1930 US Mississippi Warren It helps me to find them more quickly when I am citing the Master Source. I also use the Census event for every person listed in the household. It is very easy to copy the event to the clipboard on the Event screen, and then paste to the others. It even pastes the Source, so you enter the info once and then with just a few clicks the event is added to everyone involved. As far as the details go, if it is out of the ordinary, such as an adult who can't read or write, I will note that, but otherwise I assume they can read and write. I also attach a PDF of the census image as a multimedia file to the source detail, but I do not add any detail text or comments. I'm interested in this thread, because if anyone has a better way that produces the kind of reports I want, I'm always willing to learn. Dede Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Gallery default?
RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote ' the Picture Gallery is straightforward, easy to handle and hard to go wrong with; the Picture Gallery, on' Did you mean Picture Center on the second one. I am guessing. Yes, sorry, the last part of my previous post should have read Picture Centre, on the other hand, is rather complex and confusing and not so easy to work with. Well that's my opinion and one which I know is shared by other LUGgers. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Birth certificate as a master source
I treat each birth, marriage and death certificate as a master source because information from each certificate relates to a number of different people. A birth certificate can give father's and mothers full names, ages (hence approximate birth date), occupations and birthplaces, parents marriage date and place, and birth informant. Other certificates similarly have data on several people apart from the certificate subject person(s). I am trying to cite a birth certificate issued in Scotland. The template for a birth certificate comes from Birth recordsBirth certificateAll countries except.Created at state/provincial levelbasic format (Most other options within this certificate string get you to a similar set of fields) There does not appear to be a field to record whose birth the certificate relates to. If I use this master source to, for instance, source the parent's marriage place or the father's occupation, there is no way in the printed out source list that comes from this template, to tell which certificate the information was taken from. I can title the document in the Source List Name to uniquely identify it, but that does not print out in the reports. The same issue relates to citing marriage and death certificates - there does not appear to be a field to record the name of the principal player. These templates are thus of no use at all, or am I missing something? Do I have to go back to the Basic source format and use the Title field to get a source that tells me whose birth is being recorded? How does anybody else cite a birth certificate? Boyd No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.93/2365 - Release Date: 09/12/09 06:37:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources
michael barberi wrote However, my previous issue still stands. I have noticed that a Specific Master Source (for an individual's event) and the attached Picture of the source document, is showing up in someone else's Death Event (as a source). It is also in its correct place for the correct specific individual. Hence, my question about deleting it from the incorrect person's event and whether I will lose it all together for the correct person. If you go to the Assigned Sources screen for any Individual, click on one of the Sources and then click on Remove, that will disconnect that Source from that Individual only and will *not* delete the Master Source, nor will it disconnect that Master Source from any other Individual who is using the same Source. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Handling Dicorces in Charting
When I create a chart which includes a Divorce the ex-Partner (in my chart the ex-wife) is shown next to her ex-spouse, and the current wife is to one side. While this is presumably correct in genealogy terms, I would prefer my chart to show the current wife next to her husband. Is there a way to achieve this ? Tks Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Birth certificate as a master source
Boyd, I have just checked that template out, and in the Source Detail, the fourth item down is ID of Child. I also tested it using a person in my files and the name was reproduced in the output. This, btw., would be the template I would use as well, although at present mine are still in the Basic Format. Might change them now that I've done the template :-). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: bo...@vodafone.net.nz To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Birth certificate as a master source Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:57:56 +1200 I treat each birth, marriage and death certificate as a master source because information from each certificate relates to a number of different people. A birth certificate can give father's and mothers full names, ages (hence approximate birth date), occupations and birthplaces, parents marriage date and place, and birth informant. Other certificates similarly have data on several people apart from the certificate subject person(s). I am trying to cite a birth certificate issued in Scotland. The template for a birth certificate comes from Birth recordsBirth certificateAll countries except.Created at state/provincial levelbasic format (Most other options within this certificate string get you to a similar set of fields) There does not appear to be a field to record whose birth the certificate relates to. If I use this master source to, for instance, source the parent's marriage place or the father's occupation, there is no way in the printed out source list that comes from this template, to tell which certificate the information was taken from. I can title the document in the Source List Name to uniquely identify it, but that does not print out in the reports. The same issue relates to citing marriage and death certificates - there does not appear to be a field to record the name of the principal player. These templates are thus of no use at all, or am I missing something? Do I have to go back to the Basic source format and use the Title field to get a source that tells me whose birth is being recorded? How does anybody else cite a birth certificate? Boyd _ Save time by using Hotmail to access your other email accounts. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Handling Dicorces in Charting
Tony, Yes, that is genealogically and historically correct and to present it otherwise would be misleading. If it was to be reversed and there were children, then their order of birth would be incorrect, as would be all descendants. As far as I know there is no way to change this. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: tkg...@iprimus.com.au To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Handling Dicorces in Charting Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:58:41 +0800 When I create a chart which includes a Divorce the ex-Partner (in my chart the ex-wife) is shown next to her ex-spouse, and the current wife is to one side. While this is presumably correct in genealogy terms, I would prefer my chart to show the current wife next to her husband. Is there a way to achieve this ? Tks Tony _ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Birth certificate as a master source
Boyd, In the Source Detail entry screen there is a place for ID of person. I guess I'm more of a lumper when it comes to birth certificates, since most of mine are issued in the state of Miss. Legacy seems to lean toward lumping birth certificates, since the ID for each person is at the Detail level. However, even though you are citing each birth certificate as a Master Source, you can still enter the ID of the person at the Detail level for that Master Source. Does that make sense? Dede Holden On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Boyd Miller bo...@vodafone.net.nz wrote: I treat each birth, marriage and death certificate as a master source because information from each certificate relates to a number of different people. A birth certificate can give father's and mothers full names, ages (hence approximate birth date), occupations and birthplaces, parents marriage date and place, and birth informant. Other certificates similarly have data on several people apart from the certificate subject person(s). I am trying to cite a birth certificate issued in Scotland. The template for a birth certificate comes from Birth recordsBirth certificateAll countries except.Created at state/provincial levelbasic format (Most other options within this certificate string get you to a similar set of fields) There does not appear to be a field to record whose birth the certificate relates to. If I use this master source to, for instance, source the parent's marriage place or the father's occupation, there is no way in the printed out source list that comes from this template, to tell which certificate the information was taken from. I can title the document in the Source List Name to uniquely identify it, but that does not print out in the reports. The same issue relates to citing marriage and death certificates - there does not appear to be a field to record the name of the principal player. These templates are thus of no use at all, or am I missing something? Do I have to go back to the Basic source format and use the Title field to get a source that tells me whose birth is being recorded? How does anybody else cite a birth certificate? Boyd Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Birth certificate as a master source
I have my birth certificates (as well as marriage and death) set up by juridisdiction. DEATH RECORDS - GA - Columbia Co - certificates DEATH RECORDS - MS - Lamar Co - certificates DEATH RECORDS - MS - Perry Co - certificates MARRIAGE RECORDS - FL - Hillsborough Co - certificates MARRIAGE RECORDS - GA - Richmond Co - certificates MARRIAGE RECORDS - MS - Forrest Co - certificates I do it this way based on the information asked for when you use the source writer. It asks for state and county so you can have 1 source for all the certicificates coming form that state and county. The detail screen asks for the certificate number, the year and the person(s) named on the certificate. There is no reason to make a master source for every single person. michele - Original Message - From: Boyd Miller bo...@vodafone.net.nz To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:57 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Birth certificate as a master source I treat each birth, marriage and death certificate as a master source because information from each certificate relates to a number of different people. A birth certificate can give father's and mothers full names, ages (hence approximate birth date), occupations and birthplaces, parents marriage date and place, and birth informant. Other certificates similarly have data on several people apart from the certificate subject person(s). I am trying to cite a birth certificate issued in Scotland. The template for a birth certificate comes from Birth recordsBirth certificateAll countries except.Created at state/provincial levelbasic format (Most other options within this certificate string get you to a similar set of fields) There does not appear to be a field to record whose birth the certificate relates to. If I use this master source to, for instance, source the parent's marriage place or the father's occupation, there is no way in the printed out source list that comes from this template, to tell which certificate the information was taken from. I can title the document in the Source List Name to uniquely identify it, but that does not print out in the reports. The same issue relates to citing marriage and death certificates - there does not appear to be a field to record the name of the principal player. These templates are thus of no use at all, or am I missing something? Do I have to go back to the Basic source format and use the Title field to get a source that tells me whose birth is being recorded? How does anybody else cite a birth certificate? Boyd No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.93/2365 - Release Date: 09/12/09 06:37:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.100/2373 - Release Date: 09/15/09 13:37:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] When Do you import versus merging ??
Thanks Kirsten and Rich for your advice. Will proceed with those cautions in mind. George On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:21 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.netwrote: I always gedcom into a new file, fix the locations and sources MY way, then add it into my main DB, then do a merge. The group taught me that when I was a Newbie, and we try to repeat it regularly for the next batch of newbies to hear. Rich in LA CA -- *From:* Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:56:14 PM *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] When Do you import versus merging ?? George: When you import a GEDCOM from FTM into Legacy you'll probably be shocked at the data entry inconsistencies you'll find. I know I was, and many others have said the same thing. For this reason I think it would be best to handle the GEDCOMs separately. Open them in separate Legacy files and clean up one at a time before you consider merging them. Personally I *hate* merging files because I'm never quite sure exactly what's going to come along with the merge; I'd rather use the largest file as my base and then manually add data from the other smaller files. Other users are probably braver and can give you better guidance on merging if you decide on that route, but don't fail to clean up the files before merging. Kirsten -Original Message- *From:* k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]*on Behalf Of *George Ferguson *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:56 PM *To:* Legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com *Subject:* [LegacyUG] When Do you import versus merging ?? I am just getting started with legacy and have a bunch of related (but poorly) FTM files I am converting to GEDCOM. I then want to combine the essence of these files into a single Legacy file. Can anyone suggest an orderly procedure for doing this ? I see different things that the legacy manual can help you organize-such as consistency in addresses etc. I just have trouble seeing what order things are best done in. Thanks for any help. George Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Birth certificate as a master source
Boyd Miller wrote I treat each birth, marriage and death certificate as a master source because information from each certificate relates to a number of different people. A birth certificate can give father's and mothers full names, ages (hence approximate birth date), occupations and birthplaces, parents marriage date and place, and birth informant. Other certificates similarly have data on several people apart from the certificate subject person(s). I don't see that your reasoning above is valid. Just because a Source relates to several different people, it doesn't follow that you have to create a new Master Source for every similar document. That's what Source Detail is for. Master Source is for generalities - things that are likely to be repeated over and over, such as the fact that it's a Birth Certificate, that it was issued in a certain Country by a certain Authority. Source Details is for, not surprisingly, the details - things that won't be the same for every similar document, such as that the Birth Certificate is for Joe Bloggs or Fanny Adams. I am trying to cite a birth certificate issued in Scotland. The template for a birth certificate comes from Birth recordsBirth certificateAll countries except.Created at state/provincial levelbasic format (Most other options within this certificate string get you to a similar set of fields) There does not appear to be a field to record whose birth the certificate relates to. No, for the reasons I have given above. That field, is in the Source Details I think you would be well advised to re-think how you tackle Master Sources and make more use of Source Details. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
Hi Sherry, Could you elaborate on what Live Mapping is and how it is different from the Geo Location Database? How does one do Live Mapping from within the Legacy program? Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Sherry/Support Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:12 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates There have never been any updates to the Geo Location Database and I don't know of any future plans to update it. Besides we have live mapping now which has much better coordinate information - just not the county information (which are current counties in Geo anyway) Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:59 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates I know I'm late to this thread, but did anyone receive an answer from the programmers? Is there an update plan? I am thinking of implementing this functionality, but has its data maintenance been put on a back burner? Thanks, --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:44:43 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:26:14 -0700, 1familytree 1familytree@gmail.com wrote: I am sure that there is a way to update the actual Geo-Code file in Legacy, but I am not a coder or programmer and don't want to do anything that might effect proper operation of my Legacy software. FYI. Legacy's Geo Database is password protected. The casual programmer cannot even see it's content, much less update it. And the .rdb files that you download to update Legacy's Geo Database are binary files of unknown (except to the Legacy programmers) structure. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp The information contained in this message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, dissemination or copying of this information is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete the message from your system. Thank you. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
Still trying to grasp the implications, so forgive me. But, if you compress these (residences or military) into one event, then on the chronology, it will be one event spread out over time/ the life of the individual, losing all detail. That matters only if you use the chronology, though. Are you two not using that report/chart? --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:51:20 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location michael barberi wrote Hence, I created an Event called Residence History. In the Event notes section, I list by year, the person's residence addresses. Sometimes I will include a key life-event in parenthesis (e.g., death, birth, marriage) to add perspective. I think this is an excellent idea! It's one which I may well adopt myself. I had already thought of compressing, for example, military history into one Event. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] When Do you import versus merging ??
Sage advice a great reason to subscribe to this list. Perhaps my 8-digit MRIN issue may have been caught had I done that with the itsy-bitsy file I imported on March 30th! ;) Live and learn! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:21:10 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] When Do you import versus merging ?? I always gedcom into a new file, fix the locations and sources MY way, then add it into my main DB, then do a merge. The group taught me that when I was a Newbie, and we try to repeat it regularly for the next batch of newbies to hear. Rich in LA CA From: Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:56:14 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] When Do you import versus merging ?? George: When you import a GEDCOM from FTM into Legacy you'll probably be shocked at the data entry inconsistencies you'll find. I know I was, and many others have said the same thing. For this reason I think it would be best to handle the GEDCOMs separately. Open them in separate Legacy files and clean up one at a time before you consider merging them. Personally I *hate* merging files because I'm never quite sure exactly what's going to come along with the merge; I'd rather use the largest file as my base and then manually add data from the other smaller files. Other users are probably braver and can give you better guidance on merging if you decide on that route, but don't fail to clean up the files before merging. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of George Ferguson Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:56 PM To: Legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] When Do you import versus merging ?? I am just getting started with legacy and have a bunch of related (but poorly) FTM files I am converting to GEDCOM. I then want to combine the essence of these files into a single Legacy file. Can anyone suggest an orderly procedure for doing this ? I see different things that the legacy manual can help you organize-such as consistency in addresses etc. I just have trouble seeing what order things are best done in. Thanks for any help. George Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information
Thank you for your answers and some background. When I picture the way some of you describe how you enter census events/data, I just see the same data lists printed over over again in an Ancestor or Descendent BOOK report, which is what I mainly use. I think my goal is to have something the lay person (read, non-genealogist) can read and enjoy. Full sentences, not data lists. Of course, who knows when I will reach that goal? A genealogist's job is never finished! ;) I, too, love the fan chart... probably have too much fun playing with colors, etc. ;) --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:55:00 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information Paula, I primarily use the Family Group Report. I've found that this helps me to see how my Events and Sources will appear in other reports. The other reports I use the most are the Ancestor Report and the Descendant Report, depending on who's asking for information. I'm still in Search and Source mode for most of my lines, so I haven't tackled the bigger Book Reports yet. I use the Pedigree Report for my files, just to keep a handle on who fits where in the tree, since I'm working on my family as well as my husband's. I've certainly learned that I tend to make things more complex than they need to be and I'm trying to work on that. That's why I'm willing to learn from the long-time pros in the LUG! Dede P.S. My 24 year old son's favorite is the Ancestor Fan Chart, from Legacy Charting. He didn't really care about genealogy until I printed his for the first time. It was an AHA moment for him! On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Dede, Which reports do you use the most? Thanks, --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:56:15 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information Alan, I'm not quite sure what you meant by you don't use the default Census event but instead use an event for each Census? I use the default Census event, but the description, date, and place tailor it to each particular census. I started out putting the census details in the Source Detail Text field. Then I realized every time I cited the census, and printed the details, the reports became very cumbersome. So now I handle the census like Michele does. Event = Census Description = US Federal Date = 1930 (I am not as detailed here as Michele is) Location = Vicksburg, Warren, Mississippi, USA The Notes look like this: living at 735 Thomas St. Harry Thompson, head, owns home, value $4800, no radio, age 48, married at age 32, born in Miss., father born in Miss., mother born in Texas, conductor for steam railroad Ione Thompson, wife, age 40, married at at 24, born in Miss., parents born in Miss. Ethel E. Whitehead, sister-in-law, female, age 37, widowed, born in Miss., parents born in Miss., employed as saleslady at 5 and 10 store. Nora L. Whitehead, niece, age 17, single, born in Miss., parents born in Miss. In the reports it reads, He appeared on the US Federal census in 1930 living at 735 Thomas St As far as the Source citation goes, I have used the Sourcewriter template and I have a census source for each year, state, and county. I name them like this: Census: 1930 US Mississippi Warren It helps me to find them more quickly when I am citing the Master Source. I also use the Census event for every person listed in the household. It is very easy to copy the event to the clipboard on the Event screen, and then paste to the others. It even pastes the Source, so you enter the info once and then with just a few clicks the event is added to everyone involved. As far as the details go, if it is out of the ordinary, such as an adult who can't read or write, I will note that, but otherwise I assume they can read and write. I also attach a PDF of the census image as a multimedia file to the source detail, but I do not add any detail text or comments. I'm interested in this thread, because if anyone has a better way that produces the kind of reports I want, I'm always willing to learn. Dede Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group
Re: [LegacyUG] Handling Dicorces in Charting
Can't you just set the current wife to preferred? AMY Tony Gain wrote: When I create a chart which includes a Divorce the ex-Partner (in my chart the ex-wife) is shown next to her ex-spouse, and the current wife is to one side. While this is presumably correct in genealogy terms, I would prefer my chart to show the current wife next to her husband. Is there a way to achieve this ? Tks Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Birth certificate as a master source
Boyd, Do not lose heart. I am mid-way in a process of moving my birth, death marriage sources from one per to something more lumped. But I have chosen to use state / county / year... or just state / year. As I said, I'm mid-way in the change process. Still, the template should work no matter your lumping level. ;) --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:39:03 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth certificate as a master source Boyd Miller wrote I treat each birth, marriage and death certificate as a master source because information from each certificate relates to a number of different people. A birth certificate can give father's and mothers full names, ages (hence approximate birth date), occupations and birthplaces, parents marriage date and place, and birth informant. Other certificates similarly have data on several people apart from the certificate subject person(s). I don't see that your reasoning above is valid. Just because a Source relates to several different people, it doesn't follow that you have to create a new Master Source for every similar document. That's what Source Detail is for. Master Source is for generalities - things that are likely to be repeated over and over, such as the fact that it's a Birth Certificate, that it was issued in a certain Country by a certain Authority. Source Details is for, not surprisingly, the details - things that won't be the same for every similar document, such as that the Birth Certificate is for Joe Bloggs or Fanny Adams. I am trying to cite a birth certificate issued in Scotland. The template for a birth certificate comes from Birth recordsBirth certificateAll countries except.Created at state/provincial levelbasic format (Most other options within this certificate string get you to a similar set of fields) There does not appear to be a field to record whose birth the certificate relates to. No, for the reasons I have given above. That field, is in the Source Details I think you would be well advised to re-think how you tackle Master Sources and make more use of Source Details. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information
Paula, You have nicely identified a basic question which arises when attempting to create a one size fits all database. As is quite well known, my main output is for Pedigree Webpages in which each individual has their own page. I want, therefore, for, say, all the residences in which the individual lived, to appear on the page for each individual. It is also my choice not to want this hidden away in a source nor to have Census Events. It follows that I need Residence Events for each place and individual. This Residence Event is then sourced to, perhaps, a census. But, as I don't want repetition I do not include the address and other members of the household in the Source. Now, if I also had a significant interest in producing a book then my way of working would not, in my view, be appropriate because, like you say, it would involve much repetition. My eventual choice would depend on which aspects of the lives of my ancestors I wished to concentrate. The Events, their construction and sourcing would depend on that choice. Herein lies a problem which all of us have probably faced when first starting out on our ancestral trail - we do not know where we are going! The earlier this decision is taken then the earlier the format of the database can be set. It also follows that one may need more than one database, if there are to be multiple output formats. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:07:06 -0700 From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Thank you for your answers and some background. When I picture the way some of you describe how you enter census events/data, I just see the same data lists printed over over again in an Ancestor or Descendent BOOK report, which is what I mainly use. I think my goal is to have something the lay person (read, non-genealogist) can read and enjoy. Full sentences, not data lists. Of course, who knows when I will reach that goal? A genealogist's job is never finished! ;) I, too, love the fan chart... probably have too much fun playing with colors, etc. ;) --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: Dede Holden To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:55:00 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information Paula, I primarily use the Family Group Report. I've found that this helps me to see how my Events and Sources will appear in other reports. The other reports I use the most are the Ancestor Report and the Descendant Report, depending on who's asking for information. I'm still in Search and Source mode for most of my lines, so I haven't tackled the bigger Book Reports yet. I use the Pedigree Report for my files, just to keep a handle on who fits where in the tree, since I'm working on my family as well as my husband's. I've certainly learned that I tend to make things more complex than they need to be and I'm trying to work on that. That's why I'm willing to learn from the long-time pros in the LUG! Dede P.S. My 24 year old son's favorite is the Ancestor Fan Chart, from Legacy Charting. He didn't really care about genealogy until I printed his for the first time. It was an AHA moment for him! On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote: Dede, Which reports do you use the most? Thanks, --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: Dede Holden To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:56:15 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information Alan, I'm not quite sure what you meant by you don't use the default Census event but instead use an event for each Census? I use the default Census event, but the description, date, and place tailor it to each particular census. I started out putting the census details in the Source Detail Text field. Then I realized every time I cited the census, and printed the details, the reports became very cumbersome. So now I handle the census like Michele does. Event = Census Description = US Federal Date = 1930 (I am not as detailed here as Michele is) Location = Vicksburg, Warren, Mississippi, USA The Notes look like this:
[LegacyUG] Picture Center benefit
When you have several pictures in an individual's gallery, and they have been added in the order you found/scanned or took them, there is no way (that I could see) in the gallery to reorder the pictures. But in the Picture Center, you CAN, and oh so easily. Maybe you all already knew that, but I just found it today. Thanks Legacy! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
Legacy v7 introduced mapping locations. I miswrote when I said Live Mapping - I meant Virtural Earth, now known as Bing. You have to be connected to the internet to use it and I suppose it is live in the sense that Legacy goes to the VE/Bing website and shows their map and geo-coordinates. It's much more accurate than Geo Location Database, however, it doesn't show counties like Geo does. Caveat - the locations in Geo and Bing are all current and there is no historical information. Well, occasionally I spot something that no longer exists but that's a rarity. Click on the Mapping icon on the main toolbar to create a map for the current individual or go into the Master Location List to map specific locations. Full details are in the Legacy Help file. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Brian Beddor Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:32 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Hi Sherry, Could you elaborate on what Live Mapping is and how it is different from the Geo Location Database? How does one do Live Mapping from within the Legacy program? Thanks, Brian Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information
I've struggled to find a balance between dry facts and bringing the information to life and have come up with this labor intensive compromise. I enter all census data under one event; census. The description is the years I have for the individual. I add a copy to the picture gallery of the census. I lump source everything by census year and put all information for an individual on the detail text screen. I also add a picture here. I do it this way so that whatever screen I'm on, I can see the image and I don't have to close sources to see the information about the individual. I spend a lot of time on the sources screen and it helps to compare source information too. Finally, as I find facts, I add to a short biography to notes. It's more interesting to read that a family moved from one state to another because the wife was hopelessly homesick, than to read the family lived in Minnesota, moved to Illinois and then back to Minnesota. I can choose to print either notes or events or both on a report depending on the recipient. Like I said labor intensive, but it appeals to my compulsive nature. I'm sure there are flaws to this system, but I print few reports and so far it works for me. Mary Paula Ryburn wrote: Thank you for your answers and some background. When I picture the way some of you describe how you enter census events/data, I just see the same data lists printed over over again in an Ancestor or Descendent BOOK report, which is what I mainly use. I think my goal is to have something the lay person (read, non-genealogist) can read and enjoy. Full sentences, not data lists. Of course, who knows when I will reach that goal? A genealogist's job is never finished! ;) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information
When using any computer software, you need to ask yourself as to what is the end result that you wish to see? Once you know what that is you can then enter your data to achieve that. My end result is usually the Descendant Book or Modified Register Report. Since this is easy to read, my data entries in the Notes field are written as sentences. So, when entering census info, I start by using the basic census template. Then use the following entries: Event: Census Description: 1850 Federal Date: 29 Aug 1950 Place: Mentz, Cayuga County, New York Notes: Nathan Holmes was shown as being 41 years old and born in New York state. He was a farmer. He lived on Oxford Lane and owned his own home and farm. By placing the year in the Description field, it also shows up in the Individual view easily so that I can easily see if I listed a census out of chronological order. In the Notes section, I place everything that appears in the census for the individual and write it in sentences because my end result is usually the Descendant Book. The reason that I place everything from a census in the notes for each specific individual is that when reading the Descendant Books, the reader is going to read one person at a time. If information relating to a person is not found under his own entry, the reader can overlook that data or information entirely. My source for a census event is taken directly from the page at Ancestry.com. The main source remains the same for everyone with the same census year and only the Details contains any variable information. Main Source: United States of America, Bureau of the Census, 1850 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. (Seventh Census of the United States, 1850. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1850. M432, 1,009 rolls.), Details: Year: 1850; Census Place: Mentz, Cayuga, New York; NARA Series M432, Roll: 481; Page: 90; Image: 181. Repository: Ancestry.com, Provo, Utah, http://www.ancestry.com/. In this way, whenever I printed a Descendant Book it is easy to read and the footnotes contain only footnote information and not details about a person's life. I've looked at reports where personal data was placed into the footnotes and I have found it to be difficult to read such reports. But whatever you do, be consistent in your input and look at your end results to see if you like them. And as long as someone else can read your reports and use your sources to locate the original documentation, you know that you have succeeded. Happy Hunting! Cathy-0 -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Alan Jones Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information I have seen many post about how to document/source Census information and the different styles and to be honest I have not made up my mind and won't till I have really done enough to decide. What I have seen less discussion of and really wanted to know more of is how to others document the lines/columns in a Census or do you even bother? 1. In Legacy you have an event called Census. What others enter do and find works best and why for the related event fields? -Description: -Date: -Place: -Notes: 2. How do you enter specific fields such as in the 1900 US Census like: Relation, Color or Race, Attended School, Can Read, Can Write, Can speak English, Owner or rented home, Farm or House .. or even my favorite in the 1870 Census is Whether deaf and dumb, blind, insane, or idiotic. Do you actually type Can Read: then Yes or No etc.? For each field? Where do you put that info so it looks right and shows up. 3. Do you do anything different if they are Head of House Hold vs not? 4. If you find an occupation field do then also enter that information into a new occupation event? Same thing This information sorta seems like source text, but that did not seem like the best place to put it so it would show up right in most reports. I could see how some would even put it in two places event and source text and I don't mind doing that if that were the best thing How do others handle all the fields and fun details so it shows right in reports or do you just say they were listed in the Census and provide no detailed information? More details the better. thanks for any all suggestions Alan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines:
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Here is the actual request (my paraphrase)? Can we add a source button to include in the Relationship Calculator, to have a print choice. It might be a bit cumbersome, but you could have it print only the tagged sources. This could be done better (IMO) in Publishing Center. Then you can print the RC, finishing with the desired Sources. In each case, I would want to pick through the sources, each time I print the RC anyway. Or did you want all the descendants, or a report including only the tagged children? Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:09:04 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Rich, I use Deluxe, too. There is a Lineage report, that shows the spouse and siblings of each MALE in a direct line. You specify where to start, and it works back from there. What I suggested was the same CONTENT (spouses and siblings of each PERSON in a direct line), but allow us to select the starting AND ending person, then the program has to work from person A to person B, which might include one or more FEMALES. I think you can see how the logic to work through the lineage is the same as one leg of the RC, once the ending person is determined (the common ancestor). In this new report, we would enter the ancestor, so it would only use the second half of the RC logic. (I also asked to be able to include source citations.) --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:48:04 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart It is already there. I was asking what was wanted, that wasn't in the Tools\Relationship Calculator, and did not understand the answer. Unless this is for Deluxe only. I have always had Deluxe so never new what might be missing. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:46:02 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Let's each make that suggestion to Legacy! It IS an important aspect to genealogy, after all, and since FTM has had such a capability for umpteen years, I am sure Legacy programmers can do likewise CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Terri Brown Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I don't know about anyone else but I could use a lineage report like you described. I noticed the same results trying to run lineage reports for Mayflower Society and other lineage society applications. I ended up tagging each individual and running some report (don't remember which) from there. Terri - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:23:34 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to know the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula - Original Message From: Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books Exactly right, Valerie. Thanks for explaining it better than I could. Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing. Chick On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowskilask...@att.net wrote: No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route. The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature. At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have to make one for myself to see if it matches. Valerie -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of John S. Adams Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Cc: cglewi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books Chick, Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and spouses on
[LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Hi Everyone, My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group and have been watching it for about a week now. I haven't started on my family genealogy yet, so I have only purchased Legacy 7 with all the updates. Ron brought up a good point when he wrote: Herein lies a problem which all of us have probably faced when first starting out on our ancestral trail - we do not know where we are going! The earlier this decision is taken then the earlier the format of the database can be set. It also follows that one may need more than one database, if there are to be multiple output formats. I've done some thinking about this and decided that the main reasons I want to use Legacy for are: 1) To upload my data to FamilySearch 2) Print some simple charts that show my direct line that includes their spouses and children 3) To create a simple web page with the information I find about my ancestors, including interesting stories, data, and sources for a very small family of a brother, sister, daughter, and nephew. I borrowed the first set of CDs on Legacy and watched them several times and they have helped me to learn how to get around the program and enter data. However, I am still left with trying to design my database as Ron pointed out. And, deciding on a way to enter sources, media, etc. When I find online information on my family and perhaps family trees that have been submitted how do I handle that? Do I download all the information and then go about trying to verify it? And probably many other things that I don't know enough about to even ask a question. Would you mind giving me some guidance about how to go about this? Sherry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] OT: Legacy and GV
I'm new to this list. So what is the LUG list? From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:34:32 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] OT: Legacy and GV Robert, Just to put your mind (and everyone else's) to rest, it's fine to ask questions about the Legacy add-ons on the LUG list. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Robert Carneal USA Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:26 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] OT: Legacy and GV This is pretty much off topic, but seeing there is no activity on the GenViewer board, I decided to ask here. To anyone who has and uses GenViewer, can you get GenViewer to display MRINs from a Legacy family file? I don't see a way to do that. Thanks. Robert Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later, returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or numbers, or something). I forget the actual wording, because I am unwilling to tie up my computer for that long just to have it return the message. The default may be 999, but not for my file. Over many Legacy versions, the same problem has persisted. Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line Bolding. Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. And, with no capability to do a direct ancestry or descent, about which the OP was asking, I have a correctly colored, bolded, direct ancestor who cannot be shown as such by Relationship Calculator. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:45 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Out of interest, as I have no way of replicating your problem, why have you limited the number of Blood Relationships to 50? It seems to me that with 29 generations you will exceed that number by far. The default is, of course, 999. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:42:51 -0700 Just do a search of the LUG archives on this, and you will discover that this problem is an very old one. FOLLOW-UP EMAIL TO BRIAN THAT WAS NOT RESPONDED TO AND WAS A FOLLOW-UP TO AN EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: It is not just one family where this occurs, but ALL families where the ascents result in, for instance, a 29th GGancestor being the son/daughter of a 26th GGancestor. The program will simply not list that son/daughter, who IS a direct ancestor, as being a GGGrandfather/GGGrandmother - not even in the additional relationships! At the very least, warn people of this flaw in the program, and advise then to rely on Ancestor Color Coding and Direct Line Bolding instead. Of course then, we cannot not know the generation number of the ancestor, but at least Legacy won't be displaying the wrong relationship the way it does now. PREVIOUS EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: Using Blood Rels = 50 and Non-blood = 10: Bernard is listed countless times as 28th GGUncle and countless times as 29th GGUncle. Following down his descendants, who as he, are correctly color-coded, preferred direct line bold, and ancestor tagged, his GGGranddaughter is finally shown having an additional relationship of 29th GGM. But I suspect that is only because Calculator was able to figure out that her husband was 29th GGF. Now please explain why her ancestors, back to the father of my incorrectly calculated 28th GGU, cannot be calculated. There is a flaw in the Calculator, or else it is useless when the going gets tough! Legacy can't seem to calculate how a 29th GGM of mine, Milia, can be the 2nd GGD of another of my 29th GGMs (and 29th GGFs), so it just makes the intervening ancestors not direct ancestors. Also, Berenger, Milia's 3rd GGF, father of the incorrectly marked 28th GGU, is related as my 29th GGF, as my 30th GGF, and as husband of my 29th GGM, BUT only through his daughter, full sister of the incorrectly marked 28th GGU. He is related through both his daughter and son, incorrectly calculated as 28th GGU. Ancestry color coding, preferred direct line, and ancestor tagging can all find that relationship; just not the Calculator! I really don't care about the extraneous relationships. What is IMPORTANT is the DIRECT ancestral line, which Relationship Calculator can't do. I'll bet that if the Calculator wasn't trying to figure the CLOSEST relationship, it could calculate correctly. Relationship Calculator obviously can't figure this out, as others reported YEARS AGO, so you should warn people that it can't do the calculations when they get complicated!!! CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:55 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information
Ron, You are so right! And it does make me feel better to know we don't really know where we're going when we start, so it's okay to now be changing direction! haha --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:15:16 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information Paula, You have nicely identified a basic question which arises when attempting to create a one size fits all database. As is quite well known, my main output is for Pedigree Webpages in which each individual has their own page. I want, therefore, for, say, all the residences in which the individual lived, to appear on the page for each individual. It is also my choice not to want this hidden away in a source nor to have Census Events. It follows that I need Residence Events for each place and individual. This Residence Event is then sourced to, perhaps, a census. But, as I don't want repetition I do not include the address and other members of the household in the Source. Now, if I also had a significant interest in producing a book then my way of working would not, in my view, be appropriate because, like you say, it would involve much repetition. My eventual choice would depend on which aspects of the lives of my ancestors I wished to concentrate. The Events, their construction and sourcing would depend on that choice. Herein lies a problem which all of us have probably faced when first starting out on our ancestral trail - we do not know where we are going! The earlier this decision is taken then the earlier the format of the database can be set. It also follows that one may need more than one database, if there are to be multiple output formats. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:07:06 -0700 From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Thank you for your answers and some background. When I picture the way some of you describe how you enter census events/data, I just see the same data lists printed over over again in an Ancestor or Descendent BOOK report, which is what I mainly use. I think my goal is to have something the lay person (read, non-genealogist) can read and enjoy. Full sentences, not data lists. Of course, who knows when I will reach that goal? A genealogist's job is never finished! ;) I, too, love the fan chart... probably have too much fun playing with colors, etc. ;) --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: Dede Holden To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:55:00 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information Paula, I primarily use the Family Group Report. I've found that this helps me to see how my Events and Sources will appear in other reports. The other reports I use the most are the Ancestor Report and the Descendant Report, depending on who's asking for information. I'm still in Search and Source mode for most of my lines, so I haven't tackled the bigger Book Reports yet. I use the Pedigree Report for my files, just to keep a handle on who fits where in the tree, since I'm working on my family as well as my husband's. I've certainly learned that I tend to make things more complex than they need to be and I'm trying to work on that. That's why I'm willing to learn from the long-time pros in the LUG! Dede P.S. My 24 year old son's favorite is the Ancestor Fan Chart, from Legacy Charting. He didn't really care about genealogy until I printed his for the first time. It was an AHA moment for him! On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote: Dede, Which reports do you use the most? Thanks, --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: Dede Holden To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:56:15 AM
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
I will take a look at that. Thx! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:53:16 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Here is the actual request (my paraphrase)? Can we add a source button to include in the Relationship Calculator, to have a print choice. It might be a bit cumbersome, but you could have it print only the tagged sources. This could be done better (IMO) in Publishing Center. Then you can print the RC, finishing with the desired Sources. In each case, I would want to pick through the sources, each time I print the RC anyway. Or did you want all the descendants, or a report including only the tagged children? Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:09:04 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Rich, I use Deluxe, too. There is a Lineage report, that shows the spouse and siblings of each MALE in a direct line. You specify where to start, and it works back from there. What I suggested was the same CONTENT (spouses and siblings of each PERSON in a direct line), but allow us to select the starting AND ending person, then the program has to work from person A to person B, which might include one or more FEMALES. I think you can see how the logic to work through the lineage is the same as one leg of the RC, once the ending person is determined (the common ancestor). In this new report, we would enter the ancestor, so it would only use the second half of the RC logic. (I also asked to be able to include source citations.) --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:48:04 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart It is already there. I was asking what was wanted, that wasn't in the Tools\Relationship Calculator, and did not understand the answer. Unless this is for Deluxe only. I have always had Deluxe so never new what might be missing. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:46:02 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Let's each make that suggestion to Legacy! It IS an important aspect to genealogy, after all, and since FTM has had such a capability for umpteen years, I am sure Legacy programmers can do likewise CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Terri Brown Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I don't know about anyone else but I could use a lineage report like you described. I noticed the same results trying to run lineage reports for Mayflower Society and other lineage society applications. I ended up tagging each individual and running some report (don't remember which) from there. Terri - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:23:34 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to know the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula - Original Message From: Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books Exactly right, Valerie. Thanks for explaining it better than I could. Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing. Chick On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowskilask...@att.net wrote: No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route. The descendant chart options in FTM had
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information
Thank you, Mary, for sharing your approach. I have a sort of combination going. I have previously hesitated in posting it, not wanting to be shot down. I enter census Events, and include in the Event Notes a description of the person within the household. If there's other nifty information, I include it there. (like the homesick wife) Also, I am entering husband/wife census events as one marriage event. Their appearance on censuses before marriage or after death of spouse are on the individual. Examples of an Event Notes entry: They were 38 and 37 years old, keeping shop, with 6 or their 8 children still living at home. Sally's brother and his family lived two doors down. OR He was age 20, living with his parents and 3 siblings. He was the census enumerator! I cite the source for every piece of data I have gleaned from the census, but what I write in the Event Notes is what strikes me as being interesting to the reader. Also, I will enter Occupation events for the individuals a lot of the time, and sometimes a Residence event... like, when I can see the address on the census sheet. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: Mary Trogg marytr...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:18:33 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information I've struggled to find a balance between dry facts and bringing the information to life and have come up with this labor intensive compromise. I enter all census data under one event; census. The description is the years I have for the individual. I add a copy to the picture gallery of the census. I lump source everything by census year and put all information for an individual on the detail text screen. I also add a picture here. I do it this way so that whatever screen I'm on, I can see the image and I don't have to close sources to see the information about the individual. I spend a lot of time on the sources screen and it helps to compare source information too. Finally, as I find facts, I add to a short biography to notes. It's more interesting to read that a family moved from one state to another because the wife was hopelessly homesick, than to read the family lived in Minnesota, moved to Illinois and then back to Minnesota. I can choose to print either notes or events or both on a report depending on the recipient. Like I said labor intensive, but it appeals to my compulsive nature. I'm sure there are flaws to this system, but I print few reports and so far it works for me. Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
You say: Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line Bolding. Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. I would suggest that you are comparing apples and pears here. In your first paragraph you are only asking Legacy to identify people who are direct line ancestors, whereas in the second you are asking for *all* relations to be identified *and* for the relationship to be prioritised. I do not know the method Legacy uses to do the Relationship Calculator, but it may be that it identifies all the relatives before it prioritises. In which case if I am correct in saying that 50 blood relatives is far too few for a DB of 29 generations then it will not reach the final stage and your relatives will be incorrectly labelled. If it cannot analyse a DB of your size, then I would agree if you said the Help File should say that. However, I guess like most people on this list, I cannot check as my file is too small. If it is any guide, to examine and correctly identify/verify a 8th generation ancestor my file looked at all my (very nearly) 5000 records and the process took 26 seconds. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:07:07 -0700 Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later, returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or numbers, or something). I forget the actual wording, because I am unwilling to tie up my computer for that long just to have it return the message. The default may be 999, but not for my file. Over many Legacy versions, the same problem has persisted. Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line Bolding. Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. And, with no capability to do a direct ancestry or descent, about which the OP was asking, I have a correctly colored, bolded, direct ancestor who cannot be shown as such by Relationship Calculator. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:45 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Out of interest, as I have no way of replicating your problem, why have you limited the number of Blood Relationships to 50? It seems to me that with 29 generations you will exceed that number by far. The default is, of course, 999. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:42:51 -0700 Just do a search of the LUG archives on this, and you will discover that this problem is an very old one. FOLLOW-UP EMAIL TO BRIAN THAT WAS NOT RESPONDED TO AND WAS A FOLLOW-UP TO AN EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: It is not just one family where this occurs, but ALL families where the ascents result in, for instance, a 29th GGancestor being the son/daughter of a 26th GGancestor. The program will simply not list that son/daughter, who IS a direct ancestor, as being a GGGrandfather/GGGrandmother - not even in the additional relationships! At the very least, warn people of this flaw in the program, and advise then to rely on Ancestor Color Coding and Direct Line Bolding instead. Of course then, we cannot not know the generation number of the ancestor, but at least Legacy won't be displaying the wrong relationship the way it does now. PREVIOUS EMAIL THAT
RE: [LegacyUG] OT: Legacy and GV
This list . Legacy User Group Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Lori Merritt Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:57 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OT: Legacy and GV I'm new to this list. So what is the LUG list? From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:34:32 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] OT: Legacy and GV Robert, Just to put your mind (and everyone else's) to rest, it's fine to ask questions about the Legacy add-ons on the LUG list. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] OT: Legacy and GV
Short for Legacy User Group. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Lori Merritt cnm...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm new to this list. So what is the LUG list? From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:34:32 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] OT: Legacy and GV Robert, Just to put your mind (and everyone else's) to rest, it's fine to ask questions about the Legacy add-ons on the LUG list. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Robert Carneal USA Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:26 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] OT: Legacy and GV This is pretty much off topic, but seeing there is no activity on the GenViewer board, I decided to ask here. To anyone who has and uses GenViewer, can you get GenViewer to display MRINs from a Legacy family file? I don't see a way to do that. Thanks. Robert Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Just add 5-10 family members, open a few reports using preview. Then start collecting the documents that prove you exist, and enter that.Then re-do what you want to change. It is a never ending process. As someone said decades ago, when you think you are done with someone, that relative had 2 parents, etc. Rich in LA CA From: daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:48:20 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Hi Everyone, My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group and have been watching it for about a week now. I haven't started on my family genealogy yet, so I have only purchased Legacy 7 with all the updates. Ron brought up a good point when he wrote: Herein lies a problem which all of us have probably faced when first starting out on our ancestral trail - we do not know where we are going! The earlier this decision is taken then the earlier the format of the database can be set. It also follows that one may need more than one database, if there are to be multiple output formats. I've done some thinking about this and decided that the main reasons I want to use Legacy for are: 1) To upload my data to FamilySearch 2) Print some simple charts that show my direct line that includes their spouses and children 3) To create a simple web page with the information I find about my ancestors, including interesting stories, data, and sources for a very small family of a brother, sister, daughter, and nephew. I borrowed the first set of CDs on Legacy and watched them several times and they have helped me to learn how to get around the program and enter data. However, I am still left with trying to design my database as Ron pointed out. And, deciding on a way to enter sources, media, etc. When I find online information on my family and perhaps family trees that have been submitted how do I handle that? Do I download all the information and then go about trying to verify it? And probably many other things that I don't know enough about to even ask a question. Would you mind giving me some guidance about how to go about this? Sherry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources
I use Vista 64 bit. Thanks for asking. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:39:29 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources In the past, this happened to me. At the time the program was doing weird things. That was in L6, but I recently found the ?last? of them still hiding in my DB. You do not mention if you are XP or Vista. Rich in LA CA From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 6:25:53 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources I have noticed that several specific Master Sources (specific to an individual's event) are showing up as the Sources of other family member events. For example, the death event source for Liberato Barbieri shows the death source for Pasquale Barbieri. The picture of the Death Record for Liberato is also Pasquale's. However, when I go to Pasquale's death event record, the source and death certificate picture is also there. If I delete the death record source for Liberato, will I be deleting the death record source for Pasquale? Apart from solving this specific problem, does any one know why this occurred? Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' lines, ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than you expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines? Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found between the 2 people. Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of analyzing where the divergences are? Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I was using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, then I eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found it was faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same problem. I bought a external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had it 'crash' yet. You may need more power. I did. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later, returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or numbers, or something). I forget the actual wording, because I am unwilling to tie up my computer for that long just to have it return the message. The default may be 999, but not for my file. Over many Legacy versions, the same problem has persisted. Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line Bolding. Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. And, with no capability to do a direct ancestry or descent, about which the OP was asking, I have a correctly colored, bolded, direct ancestor who cannot be shown as such by Relationship Calculator. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:45 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Out of interest, as I have no way of replicating your problem, why have you limited the number of Blood Relationships to 50? It seems to me that with 29 generations you will exceed that number by far. The default is, of course, 999. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:42:51 -0700 Just do a search of the LUG archives on this, and you will discover that this problem is an very old one. FOLLOW-UP EMAIL TO BRIAN THAT WAS NOT RESPONDED TO AND WAS A FOLLOW-UP TO AN EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: It is not just one family where this occurs, but ALL families where the ascents result in, for instance, a 29th GGancestor being the son/daughter of a 26th GGancestor. The program will simply not list that son/daughter, who IS a direct ancestor, as being a GGGrandfather/GGGrandmother - not even in the additional relationships! At the very least, warn people of this flaw in the program, and advise then to rely on Ancestor Color Coding and Direct Line Bolding instead. Of course then, we cannot not know the generation number of the ancestor, but at least Legacy won't be displaying the wrong relationship the way it does now. PREVIOUS EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: Using Blood Rels = 50 and Non-blood = 10: Bernard is listed countless times as 28th GGUncle and countless times as 29th GGUncle. Following down his descendants, who as he, are correctly color-coded, preferred direct line bold, and ancestor tagged, his GGGranddaughter is finally shown having an additional relationship of 29th GGM. But I suspect that is only because Calculator was able to figure out that her husband was 29th GGF. Now please explain why her ancestors, back to the father of my incorrectly calculated 28th GGU, cannot be calculated. There is a flaw in the Calculator, or else it is useless when the going gets tough! Legacy can't seem to calculate how a 29th GGM of mine, Milia, can be
Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources
Thanks Jenny. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:57:53 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources michael barberi wrote However, my previous issue still stands. I have noticed that a Specific Master Source (for an individual's event) and the attached Picture of the source document, is showing up in someone else's Death Event (as a source). It is also in its correct place for the correct specific individual. Hence, my question about deleting it from the incorrect person's event and whether I will lose it all together for the correct person. If you go to the Assigned Sources screen for any Individual, click on one of the Sources and then click on Remove, that will disconnect that Source from that Individual only and will *not* delete the Master Source, nor will it disconnect that Master Source from any other Individual who is using the same Source. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
I have looked at the Chronology Report and like it. Nevertheless, this report is not the best way to view Residence History. I don't see how this report offers the same advantageous compared to my current approach. Thanks for your comments and suggestions. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:31:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Fair enough. Have you looked at the Chronology Report? I have barely used it, but it seems popular with others to show events during a person's life. Best of luck! --P From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:05:36 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Paula: I understand you can enter the residence address for the created Events for individuals (e.g., birth, marriage, death, naturalization). I have not. For one thing, there are more residence addresses for most ancestors than events. Immigrants frequently moved, sometimes every few years. To create a Residence History, I have documented residence addresses of many of my direct ancestors from City Directories spanning 30 years+. This has given me much more information about Residence History than Census and other single year documents. Hence, I created an Event called Residence History. In the Event notes section, I list by year, the person's residence addresses. Sometimes I will include a key life-event in parenthesis (e.g., death, birth, marriage) to add perspective. In summary, the advantages for using one event for Residence History are: 1. There are frequently more Residence Addresses than Events for most immigrants than those contained in Census and other single year documents. 2. I can view a lifetime of residence addresses in chronological order in place and I don't have to print out a report to see it. It is a click away. 3. One list, in one location, in one Event, enables me to see migration patterns easily, compare residence histories of people to determine how a husband and wife may have met each other, whether family members that immigrated lived near or far from each other, etc. 4. The one Event called Residence History can be printed out on a person's Family History Page or Report (at least that is what I understand from the comments of other users). If my ancestors lived in few places throughout their lifetime (e.g., at key lifetime events), your suggestion makes a lot of sense to me. However, I continue to see more advantages to my approach at this time. Then again, I could be wrong. Mike In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:36:21 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Mike, I have read your posts about Residence History and remain puzzled. I use the Residence event and enter the address (if I know the house # and street) in the Description field, while putting the town/county/state in the Place field. (I can look up the sentence structure I use for you, but I'm pretty sure I didn't change the standard, except maybe for past/present tense.) Events print out very nicely, in order (provided I've sorted them). I am missing the advantage to entering multiple addresses on one event. Thanks, --Paula in Texas From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:25:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Does not Events/Facts appear in reports? If so, I have found creating an Event called Residence History is a great way to see the migration patterns of your ancestors over time. In this Event, I list all known addresses by year, including those locations/addresses at birth, marriage, and death as well as those in Census Records, Naturalization Records, etc. Its all in one place in an easy understandable format. This does not mean I don't record addresses/locations in specific records. I do. However, I don't know of any way that Legacy can display all of an ancestors locations/addresses over his/her lifetime in one place. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In
Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources
Paula: 1. I agree that I record the date of death and the source twice. Nevertheless, I do use the Master Source since it follows the Evidence Rules and I can attach pictures of documents. If I use the notes section of the Died icon, I duplicate what I am already doing in Event notes. Like I said, I like the idea that I can see at-a-glance all life events of a person displayed on the individual's screen. Hence, I like the Events approach even though I duplicate some information. If I find that my reporting requirements cannot be met by this approach, I will try your approach. 2. Regarding my problem: The Specific Master Source AND the Picture of the certificate of death appearing in the Death Event for the second person iswrong. The same Specific Master Source and Picture also appears as the Death Event Source and Picture for the first person...which is correct. Hope this is clearer. Now the question is: If I delete the Specific Master Source and Picture that appears incorrectly for the second person, will this deletion impact the same Specific Master Source and Picture for the first person? I am seeking a solution however, I am worried that if I delete this Specific Master Source and Picture for the second person, I will lose it for the first person. My reasoning: there is only ONE such Specific Master Source and Picture. If I delete it, I lost it. I could be wrong. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:43:32 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources Mike, Forgive my misunderstanding. I thought I had read that you were moving away from the one master source per fact approach. I understand what you're doing, but I would not do it that way. You seem to be recording the source of the data twice. But, to each his own. (And I could suggest that if you have some Notes about his death, you might want to use the Death Notes instead of a new Death Event... checking first that your reporting requirements are met.) Regarding your real problem. Is the correct master source cited on the 2nd person, just with the wrong image? Or is the wrong master source cited entirely? If it's the correct master source with the wrong picture attached, Edit the Master Source, Remove the picture, and attach the correct one. If it's not the correct master source, go into the individual's attached sources (books icon) and Remove that citation. Then do either your steps 3 and 4 (if the master source you need never did get added) or just cite the correct master source. Hope this makes sense! Nothing should happen to the correct person his citations. --Paula in Texas From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:50:40 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources Paula: I am new to Legacy so forgive me if my descriptions are not completely clear. I will try again using Death as an example. 1. First I enter the date of death in the field Died on the individual's screen. 2. Then I create an EVENT called DEATH below under Event/Facts. In the Notes section of the Event Screen called Death, I summarize the source of the date of death and what the source said. 3. Now, on the Event screen, there are icons for Adding or Editing Source Citations, as well as Pictures. I click of the Source icon and create a Specific Master Source for this Death Event (for this individual). I type in the information onto the screen that automatically come up: I name the Source, Individual, text of source, etc. 4. After I finish entering those details, I now attach to this Specific Master Source, a picture of the Certificate of Death. When I am viewing an individual's information, and click on the Event Death, and then click on the icon Source, what is see is: Four tabs called Output, Text/Comments, Repository and Pictures. If I click on the Output tab, I see the information I entered under the headings Footnote/endnote citation, subsequent citation, and bibliography. If I click on the Picture tab, I see a copy of the Certificate of Death in the heading Master Source Picture. If I click on the image of the death certificate, it takes me to the Picture Gallery for the Source. From here, I can open this picture of the death certificate and zoom to read the details. In summary, this is what I have been doing for all Events (birth, marriage, death, naturalization, immigration, etc). I have not created a true Master Source that can be used for more than one individual. However, this does not seem to be difficult
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
I have not decided what specific reports I will eventually use or need. I like the Chronology Report for various reasons. However, my point was that such a report is not a good way to view Residence History. I believe a Chronology Report is good for plotting larger life events on a chart. Military information is usually a one time Event in one's life, so there is no need to combine such information. I do use WW I and WW II Draft Registration Card information (and other Military records) as a source for various other Events such as Residence History, Occupation, and Physical Description. The only Events where I summarize information in one place is Residence History and sometimes Occupational History. I find that most people want to know about his information, so I like to put it up-front, in one Event, and a click away for viewing and analysis. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:28:52 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Still trying to grasp the implications, so forgive me. But, if you compress these (residences or military) into one event, then on the chronology, it will be one event spread out over time/ the life of the individual, losing all detail. That matters only if you use the chronology, though. Are you two not using that report/chart? --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:51:20 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location michael barberi wrote Hence, I created an Event called Residence History. In the Event notes section, I list by year, the person's residence addresses. Sometimes I will include a key life-event in parenthesis (e.g., death, birth, marriage) to add perspective. I think this is an excellent idea! It's one which I may well adopt myself. I had already thought of compressing, for example, military history into one Event. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
Thanks Jenny for your comments. I thought I was the only one who thought this was a good idea. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:51:20 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location michael barberi wrote Hence, I created an Event called Residence History. In the Event notes section, I list by year, the person's residence addresses. Sometimes I will include a key life-event in parenthesis (e.g., death, birth, marriage) to add perspective. I think this is an excellent idea! It's one which I may well adopt myself. I had already thought of compressing, for example, military history into one Event. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Does Legacy have a Lineage Report in a chart format? If so, this would solve a big problem for me. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:09:04 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Rich, I use Deluxe, too. There is a Lineage report, that shows the spouse and siblings of each MALE in a direct line. You specify where to start, and it works back from there. What I suggested was the same CONTENT (spouses and siblings of each PERSON in a direct line), but allow us to select the starting AND ending person, then the program has to work from person A to person B, which might include one or more FEMALES. I think you can see how the logic to work through the lineage is the same as one leg of the RC, once the ending person is determined (the common ancestor). In this new report, we would enter the ancestor, so it would only use the second half of the RC logic. (I also asked to be able to include source citations.) --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:48:04 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart It is already there. I was asking what was wanted, that wasn't in the Tools\Relationship Calculator, and did not understand the answer. Unless this is for Deluxe only. I have always had Deluxe so never new what might be missing. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:46:02 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Let's each make that suggestion to Legacy! It IS an important aspect to genealogy, after all, and since FTM has had such a capability for umpteen years, I am sure Legacy programmers can do likewise CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Terri Brown Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I don't know about anyone else but I could use a lineage report like you described. I noticed the same results trying to run lineage reports for Mayflower Society and other lineage society applications. I ended up tagging each individual and running some report (don't remember which) from there. Terri - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:23:34 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to know the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula - Original Message From: Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books Exactly right, Valerie. Thanks for explaining it better than I could. Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing. Chick On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowskilask...@att.net wrote: No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route. The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature. At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have to make one for myself to see if it matches. Valerie -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of John S. Adams Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Cc: cglewi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books Chick, Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and spouses on the second line, grandchildren on the third line, ggrandchildren on the fourth, etc. In Legacy Charting it is the Standard Descendant Chart type. By direct descendant chart, do you mean the chart described above without
Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources
Thanks Ron. In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:46:34 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources Mike, It is quite simple for you to discover whether you can delete the unwanted source link. Back up your file and then delete it. If it does affect others then restore your back up. I am not being funny here, but is is very difficult, nay impossible, for anyone to predict what will happen with any file that isn't their own (and not always then). Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:50:40 -0700 From: michaelbarb...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Paula: I am new to Legacy so forgive me if my descriptions are not completely clear. I will try again using Death as an example. 1. First I enter the date of death in the field Died on the individual's screen. 2. Then I create an EVENT called DEATH below under Event/Facts. In the Notes section of the Event Screen called Death, I summarize the source of the date of death and what the source said. 3. Now, on the Event screen, there are icons for Adding or Editing Source Citations, as well as Pictures. I click of the Source icon and create a Specific Master Source for this Death Event (for this individual). I type in the information onto the screen that automatically come up: I name the Source, Individual, text of source, etc. 4. After I finish entering those details, I now attach to this Specific Master Source, a picture of the Certificate of Death. When I am viewing an individual's information, and click on the Event Death, and then click on the icon Source, what is see is: Four tabs called Output, Text/Comments, Repository and Pictures. If I click on the Output tab, I see the information I entered under the headings Footnote/endnote citation, subsequent citation, and bibliography. If I click on the Picture tab, I see a copy of the Certificate of Death in the heading Master Source Picture. If I click on the image of the death certificate, it takes me to the Picture Gallery for the Source. From here, I can open this picture of the death certificate and zoom to read the details. In summary, this is what I have been doing for all Events (birth, marriage, death, naturalization, immigration, etc). I have not created a true Master Source that can be used for more than one individual. However, this does not seem to be difficult (from the suggestions that everyone has been making). All I have to do is revise the Specific Master Source and make it more General. Once done, the Output and Master Source Picture that is attached to the Specific Master Source, will be now attached to the new General Master Source. I have not done this yet but intend to do so. However, my previous issue still stands. I have noticed that a Specific Master Source (for an individual's event) and the attached Picture of the source document, is showing up in someone else's Death Event (as a source). It is also in its correct place for the correct specific individual. Hence, my question about deleting it from the incorrect person's event and whether I will lose it all together for the correct person. Mike In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Paula Ryburn To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:17:37 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources Michael, Did you attach the picture to the Master Source? Or to the detail citation? As I remember your posts about how you were using master sources and how you were planning to change that (?), you had a book that would be a single master source (or maybe you had one master source for all deaths in that book). You had the option to add all the images to the master source, or to add each image to the detail citations for that page/record. I hope I am making sense. It is pretty late here! Further, you may have added one image at the master source level, and subsequent ones at the detail citation level. How is it you are viewing the images
RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
Hi Sherry, Thanks for explaining. I have a question on using the Geo Location feature. I understand when entering in the Place/location we should always allow for 4 spots and separate each with a comma -- so in the USA it would be: city, county, state, country. I also understand that if we don't know one of the fields that we leave it blank but still put in the comma for a place holder. Then we can click on the little blue earth icon and it will do a search for the location and put in the latitude and longitude. My question is how does that work when the name of a location changes over time? Let's take the town of Derry, Rockingham, New Hampshire, USA. If I have an event that happens today and I put this in the place/location and hit the Geo Location then it works beautifully giving me the latitude and longitude. And, if I don't know the name of the county, after hitting the Geo Location icon it will do a search and tell me the county is Rockingham. However, the town wasn't always called Derry -- it used to be Londonderry. And before it was Londonderry it was Nutfield. It was in 1722 that the name was changed from Nutfield to Londonderry. And at that time there was no United States -- and the county wasn't Rockingham. It wasn't until 1769 that there was the county of Rockingham. I also know that we should record place names as they were at that time. So, what should I be putting in the place location for the different times? And, if I'm entering the place for -- say 1700 would I put Nutfield, , New Hampshire, England? And if I do, how do I get the Geo Location to work for that that place/time? Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Sherry/Support Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:21 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Legacy v7 introduced mapping locations. I miswrote when I said Live Mapping - I meant Virtural Earth, now known as Bing. You have to be connected to the internet to use it and I suppose it is live in the sense that Legacy goes to the VE/Bing website and shows their map and geo-coordinates. It's much more accurate than Geo Location Database, however, it doesn't show counties like Geo does. Caveat - the locations in Geo and Bing are all current and there is no historical information. Well, occasionally I spot something that no longer exists but that's a rarity. Click on the Mapping icon on the main toolbar to create a map for the current individual or go into the Master Location List to map specific locations. Full details are in the Legacy Help file. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Brian Beddor Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:32 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Hi Sherry, Could you elaborate on what Live Mapping is and how it is different from the Geo Location Database? How does one do Live Mapping from within the Legacy program? Thanks, Brian Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp The information contained in this message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, dissemination or copying of this information is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete the message from your system. Thank you. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple Prefixes
The other point to consider is that it is better grammatically to use the word the before Rev.: e.g., the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. (So say 59% of the Amer. Heritage Dictionary's usage panel.) On 9/14/09, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Yes. Am married to a pastor. Reverend is from the reverend so-and-so, with or w/out PhD or DMin. --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: Robert Carneal USA carnea...@adelphia.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:29:08 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple Prefixes Thank you, everyone. I think I will go with Rev. Dr. If I spell it out completely, it chops two letters off the name. Thanks- Robert At 2009-08-27 02:55 PM, you wrote: Robert, It may seem strange, but that's the standard order and usage for such individuals, one famous example being Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. There might be some standards for order based on when each title was conferred, but Reverend Doctor appears to be the preferred order based on a quick bit of Googling. Typically Reverend is the first prefix, followed by any other title an individual might have, so for a military chaplain you might have the Rev. Lieutenant John Doe (or possibly the Rev. Lt. Dr. John Doe!) An alternative would be to represent the doctorate as a suffix (e.g. Rev. John Doe, D.D. or Ph.D. depending on the exact degree received), but that creates its own potential set of issues, especially for someone who already has a suffix such as MLK Jr... and whenever possible I would defer to how they presented themselves during their life, if such information is known. -Steve On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Robert Carneal USAcarnea...@adelphia.net wrote: I do not want to start a long thread, but how are you handling multiple prefixes? I have a few people in my family who were both doctors (not medical drs, but doctors of the faith), and also they were known as Reverends. Entering Reverend Doctor into the prefix seems strange. Is there a better way? (I am thinking about Rev. Dr. Shorter, anyway, but it is proper?) Thanks. Robert Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources
I have a different appraoch; If I have death certificates for ancestors who died in Utah. I have one master source for Utah death certifcates. I have 20 individuals linked to that master source for which I have death certificates. I have a image of each certifcate in the source detail. The whole purpose of master sources is to make things more manageable. I do the same with census records. I have one master source for the 1851 census of Fife County Scotland and have 10 families linked to this particular census with all the particulars in the source detail with images. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:22 PM, michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.comwrote: Thanks Jenny. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) -- *From:* Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:57:53 AM *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources michael barberi wrote However, my previous issue still stands. I have noticed that a Specific Master Source (for an individual's event) and the attached Picture of the source document, is showing up in someone else's Death Event (as a source). It is also in its correct place for the correct specific individual. Hence, my question about deleting it from the incorrect person's event and whether I will lose it all together for the correct person. If you go to the Assigned Sources screen for any Individual, click on one of the Sources and then click on Remove, that will disconnect that Source from that Individual only and will *not* delete the Master Source, nor will it disconnect that Master Source from any other Individual who is using the same Source. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources
Hi Mike, A couple of points that might help clarify things for you. When using a master for more than one document and for more than one individual, i.e. two separate death certificates, each applying to different persons: The master source might be for Death Certificates of such-n-such County. The Citation Details for a particular person would then show name, date, certificate number, and year of death, etc. as shown on his/her particular death certificate, and the digital image of that certificate attached to that citation detail. Then for the second person, at the citation detail level (using the same master source), enter his/her particular information from his/her particular death certificate and attach that certificate to the citation detail. (Note: Images can be attached at both the Master source level and at the citation detail level). When you delete a citation from a particular event for one person, it does not delete it for any other events for the same person that the citation may be attached to, NOR does it delete the master source, NOR does it delete it any where else. Deleting a citation is only deleting the one instance of the citation. However if you go into the master source list and delete the master source there, then it will delete all occurrences of citations (after due warning of course). I hope this helps. If I misunderstood your question, please ignore (or try again?) Dan Bateham - Original Message - From: michael barberi To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources Paula: 1. I agree that I record the date of death and the source twice. Nevertheless, I do use the Master Source since it follows the Evidence Rules and I can attach pictures of documents. If I use the notes section of the Died icon, I duplicate what I am already doing in Event notes. Like I said, I like the idea that I can see at-a-glance all life events of a person displayed on the individual's screen. Hence, I like the Events approach even though I duplicate some information. If I find that my reporting requirements cannot be met by this approach, I will try your approach. 2. Regarding my problem: The Specific Master Source AND the Picture of the certificate of death appearing in the Death Event for the second person is wrong. The same Specific Master Source and Picture also appears as the Death Event Source and Picture for the first person...which is correct. Hope this is clearer. Now the question is: If I delete the Specific Master Source and Picture that appears incorrectly for the second person, will this deletion impact the same Specific Master Source and Picture for the first person? I am seeking a solution however, I am worried that if I delete this Specific Master Source and Picture for the second person, I will lose it for the first person. My reasoning: there is only ONE such Specific Master Source and Picture. If I delete it, I lost it. I could be wrong. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) -- From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:43:32 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources Mike, Forgive my misunderstanding. I thought I had read that you were moving away from the one master source per fact approach. I understand what you're doing, but I would not do it that way. You seem to be recording the source of the data twice. But, to each his own. (And I could suggest that if you have some Notes about his death, you might want to use the Death Notes instead of a new Death Event... checking first that your reporting requirements are met.) Regarding your real problem. Is the correct master source cited on the 2nd person, just with the wrong image? Or is the wrong master source cited entirely? If it's the correct master source with the wrong picture attached, Edit the Master Source, Remove the picture, and attach the correct one. If it's not the correct master source, go into the individual's attached sources (books icon) and Remove that citation. Then do either your steps 3 and 4 (if the master source you need never did get added) or just cite the correct master source. Hope this makes sense! Nothing should happen to the correct person his citations. --Paula in Texas From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:50:40 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources Paula: I am new to Legacy so forgive me
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information
Mary Trogg wrote Finally, as I find facts, I add to a short biography to notes. It's more interesting to read that a family moved from one state to another because the wife was hopelessly homesick, than to read the family lived in Minnesota, moved to Illinois and then back to Minnesota. I can choose to print either notes or events or both on a report depending on the recipient. Like I said labor intensive, but it appeals to my compulsive nature. I'm sure there are flaws to this system, but I print few reports and so far it works for me. That's got to be a good idea because it's one I have recently been mulling over in my mind! I probably wouldn't implement it exactly as you describe, but the basic idea is the same - putting everything into Events but writing a more flowing narrative in Notes. Funnily enough I wrote to another LUGger off-list only a couple of hours ago describing this, but saying I hadn't quite worked it out enough to go public with the idea! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
wrote My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group Oh good! We already have a not that Brian, the other one, now we have the matching pair with a not that Sherry, the other one. My advice to you, Sherry, would be to take it S-l-o-w and read up everything you can on genealogy in general and Legacy in particular. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center benefit
Paula Ryburn wrote When you have several pictures in an individual's gallery, and they have been added in the order you found/scanned or took them, there is no way (that I could see) in the gallery to reorder the pictures. All you do is drag the picture across to the position you want it to be in. So if you want picture 1 of 5 to be in 4th position, just drag it over on top of the 4th position and let go. Pictures 2, 3 and 4 will move up to be 1, 2 and 3, the old 1 will be 4 and 5 will stay where it was. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] SourceWriter - IRC - which template and how to use it specifically?
Has anyone any suggestions, with specifics, for using a SourceWriter template for documenting an online chat (IRC) more or less in accordance with _EE_ standards? Thanks, Dan Bateham Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct ancestor, as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color. It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the other as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times, intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one brother is shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! Accordingly, Relationship Calculator shows no direct connection between me and the person it insists is my 28th GGU. That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, incorrectly, the Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th GGF (He is both). As I said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In this case, it cannot understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 28th GGF and also a son who is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. Accordingly, all the children in his line are not calculating as being my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry Colors and Direct Line Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two functions do not deal with the math. It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering confuses the program. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' lines, ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than you expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines? Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found between the 2 people. Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of analyzing where the divergences are? Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I was using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, then I eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found it was faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same problem. I bought a external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had it 'crash' yet. You may need more power. I did. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later, returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or numbers, or something). I forget the actual wording, because I am unwilling to tie up my computer for that long just to have it return the message. The default may be 999, but not for my file. Over many Legacy versions, the same problem has persisted. Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line Bolding. Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. And, with no capability to do a direct ancestry or descent, about which the OP was asking, I have a correctly colored, bolded, direct ancestor who cannot be shown as such by Relationship Calculator. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:45 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Out of interest, as I have no way of replicating your problem, why have you limited the number of Blood Relationships to 50? It seems to me that with 29 generations you will exceed that number by far. The default is, of course, 999. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:42:51 -0700 Just do a search of the LUG archives on this, and you will discover that this problem is an very old one. FOLLOW-UP EMAIL TO BRIAN THAT WAS NOT RESPONDED TO AND WAS A FOLLOW-UP TO AN
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Several of us have asked that there be a way to generate a direct line connection - ascent or descent - without calculating any relationships other than the one between those two people. Start with me and go in a direct line to an ancestor (or vice-versa). I care not at all for all the extraneous relationships I have to the ancestor. I care only for the direct relationship. We have also asked, repeatedly, that, instead of showing the CLOSEST relationship in Family and Pedigree view, that Legacy shows the DIRECT relationship. But, as I have said, it may be the math that is the stumbling block to both requests. I just wish they would say so. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:14 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart You say: Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line Bolding. Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. I would suggest that you are comparing apples and pears here. In your first paragraph you are only asking Legacy to identify people who are direct line ancestors, whereas in the second you are asking for *all* relations to be identified *and* for the relationship to be prioritised. I do not know the method Legacy uses to do the Relationship Calculator, but it may be that it identifies all the relatives before it prioritises. In which case if I am correct in saying that 50 blood relatives is far too few for a DB of 29 generations then it will not reach the final stage and your relatives will be incorrectly labelled. If it cannot analyse a DB of your size, then I would agree if you said the Help File should say that. However, I guess like most people on this list, I cannot check as my file is too small. If it is any guide, to examine and correctly identify/verify a 8th generation ancestor my file looked at all my (very nearly) 5000 records and the process took 26 seconds. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:07:07 -0700 Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later, returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or numbers, or something). I forget the actual wording, because I am unwilling to tie up my computer for that long just to have it return the message. The default may be 999, but not for my file. Over many Legacy versions, the same problem has persisted. Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line Bolding. Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. And, with no capability to do a direct ancestry or descent, about which the OP was asking, I have a correctly colored, bolded, direct ancestor who cannot be shown as such by Relationship Calculator. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:45 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Out of interest, as I have no way of replicating your problem, why have you limited the number of Blood Relationships to 50? It seems to me that with 29 generations you will exceed that number by far. The default is, of course, 999. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Date: Tue, 15
[LegacyUG] Sourcing parent - child relationship
First off, I am not talking about the child's relationship-to-father and relathionship-to-mother fields. How do you cite the source for knowing these are the parents of this child? I mean, there is not a field to attach a source citation TO. Maybe this is a silly question, but I have often wondered how to indicate that I know these are his parents because they are listed on his birth certificate, for example. Or I found his parents' names by looking at his birth certificate... Worded that way, do I cite the birth certificate on THEIR name fields? Am I way out in left field here? But that relationship is a key item that has to be proven / documented for a DAR application, for example. Thanks, --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center benefit
Aha. Guess I need to try to drag on every screen to see if functionality is there? haha --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:29:47 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center benefit Paula Ryburn wrote When you have several pictures in an individual's gallery, and they have been added in the order you found/scanned or took them, there is no way (that I could see) in the gallery to reorder the pictures. All you do is drag the picture across to the position you want it to be in. So if you want picture 1 of 5 to be in 4th position, just drag it over on top of the 4th position and let go. Pictures 2, 3 and 4 will move up to be 1, 2 and 3, the old 1 will be 4 and 5 will stay where it was. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates
I think Sherry has gone home, so I will help tonight. What we must do is use the current name for the location, capture the L/L, then in a persons input screen, change the location name to what it was at a given time. Then the L/L will be attached to two same/different places (sic). If you change it in the master list the change is universal. I have some places with over six different names (same L/L). Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Brian Beddor bbed...@japsolson.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:17:56 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Hi Sherry, Thanks for explaining. I have a question on using the Geo Location feature. I understand when entering in the Place/location we should always allow for 4 spots and separate each with a comma -- so in the USA it would be: city, county, state, country. I also understand that if we don't know one of the fields that we leave it blank but still put in the comma for a place holder. Then we can click on the little blue earth icon and it will do a search for the location and put in the latitude and longitude. My question is how does that work when the name of a location changes over time? Let's take the town of Derry, Rockingham, New Hampshire, USA. If I have an event that happens today and I put this in the place/location and hit the Geo Location then it works beautifully giving me the latitude and longitude. And, if I don't know the name of the county, after hitting the Geo Location icon it will do a search and tell me the county is Rockingham. However, the town wasn't always called Derry -- it used to be Londonderry. And before it was Londonderry it was Nutfield. It was in 1722 that the name was changed from Nutfield to Londonderry. And at that time there was no United States -- and the county wasn't Rockingham. It wasn't until 1769 that there was the county of Rockingham. I also know that we should record place names as they were at that time. So, what should I be putting in the place location for the different times? And, if I'm entering the place for -- say 1700 would I put Nutfield, , New Hampshire, England? And if I do, how do I get the Geo Location to work for that that place/time? Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Sherry/Support Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:21 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Legacy v7 introduced mapping locations. I miswrote when I said Live Mapping - I meant Virtural Earth, now known as Bing. You have to be connected to the internet to use it and I suppose it is live in the sense that Legacy goes to the VE/Bing website and shows their map and geo-coordinates. It's much more accurate than Geo Location Database, however, it doesn't show counties like Geo does. Caveat - the locations in Geo and Bing are all current and there is no historical information. Well, occasionally I spot something that no longer exists but that's a rarity. Click on the Mapping icon on the main toolbar to create a map for the current individual or go into the Master Location List to map specific locations. Full details are in the Legacy Help file. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Brian Beddor Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:32 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database - Updates Hi Sherry, Could you elaborate on what Live Mapping is and how it is different from the Geo Location Database? How does one do Live Mapping from within the Legacy program? Thanks, Brian Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp The information contained in this message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, dissemination or copying of this information is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete the message from your system. Thank you. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines:
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Sherry, Besides going slow per Jenny's suggestion, I like someone else's earlier suggestion: enter a few individuals, maybe just one family. Look at how their data displays and how it reports in various reports. See what you like and what you don't like. Tweak their data, test again. Once you get something you feel good about, start adding more generations. When you first add a new event or something, pause and see how it looks in your reports. Tweak if necessary. Proceed. Well, at least that's what *I* would've done differently! ;) Also, someone recently posted a good suggestion in merging vs. importing... at least I think that was the thread. If you receive a file (download, etc.), import it separately, clean it up and then merge it with your main family file. Best of luck!!! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:35:40 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out wrote My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group Oh good! We already have a not that Brian, the other one, now we have the matching pair with a not that Sherry, the other one. My advice to you, Sherry, would be to take it S-l-o-w and read up everything you can on genealogy in general and Legacy in particular. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location
You may have a better system already, but for all newbies and us lazy oldies, it simplifies things I created as needed in the past. Rich in LA CA From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:47:06 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location I have looked at the Chronology Report and like it. Nevertheless, this report is not the best way to view Residence History. I don't see how this report offers the same advantageous compared to my current approach. Thanks for your comments and suggestions. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:31:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Fair enough. Have you looked at the Chronology Report? I have barely used it, but it seems popular with others to show events during a person's life. Best of luck! --P From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:05:36 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Paula: I understand you can enter the residence address for the created Events for individuals (e.g., birth, marriage, death, naturalization). I have not. For one thing, there are more residence addresses for most ancestors than events. Immigrants frequently moved, sometimes every few years. To create a Residence History, I have documented residence addresses of many of my direct ancestors from City Directories spanning 30 years+. This has given me much more information about Residence History than Census and other single year documents. Hence, I created an Event called Residence History. In the Event notes section, I list by year, the person's residence addresses. Sometimes I will include a key life-event in parenthesis (e.g., death, birth, marriage) to add perspective. In summary, the advantages for using one event for Residence History are: 1. There are frequently more Residence Addresses than Events for most immigrants than those contained in Census and other single year documents. 2. I can view a lifetime of residence addresses in chronological order in place and I don't have to print out a report to see it. It is a click away. 3. One list, in one location, in one Event, enables me to see migration patterns easily, compare residence histories of people to determine how a husband and wife may have met each other, whether family members that immigrated lived near or far from each other, etc. 4. The one Event called Residence History can be printed out on a person's Family History Page or Report (at least that is what I understand from the comments of other users). If my ancestors lived in few places throughout their lifetime (e.g., at key lifetime events), your suggestion makes a lot of sense to me. However, I continue to see more advantages to my approach at this time. Then again, I could be wrong. Mike In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:36:21 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Mike, I have read your posts about Residence History and remain puzzled. I use the Residence event and enter the address (if I know the house # and street) in the Description field, while putting the town/county/state in the Place field. (I can look up the sentence structure I use for you, but I'm pretty sure I didn't change the standard, except maybe for past/present tense.) Events print out very nicely, in order (provided I've sorted them). I am missing the advantage to entering multiple addresses on one event. Thanks, --Paula in Texas From: michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:25:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location Does not Events/Facts appear in reports? If so, I have found creating an Event called Residence History is a great way to see the migration patterns of your ancestors over time. In this Event, I list all known addresses by year, including those locations/addresses at birth, marriage, and death as well as those in Census Records,
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information
This is how I enter my CENSUS events CENSUS, year, place City County state country then in the notes I put this: 1) Sophie O, age 50, female, born in Poland, 2) Michael O, age 20, male, chauffer for taxi cab company, born in Poland 3) Tony O, age 22, male, laborer, born in Poland In a message dated 9/15/2009 10:56:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net writes: Angela, Thanks! This is the way I have been doing it. I use the book reports the most, and I like the narrative rather than a list of facts. I also enter the census events on the marriage while they are married. --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: Angela Gabbard gabba...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:33:26 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information I enter my census as follows: Census Description blank (I got started a long time ago not using this field and never have... not sure what my original reason was.) Date - year of census only Location - town/city, county, state, usa Notes He is living with his wife of 6 years and 4 children, working as a farmer, aged 43. Or She is living with her parents and siblings, attending school, aged 9. Etc... I enter an event for each individual listed in the census. Then in my sources I have the source name to read 1920 US Census: Indiana. SMITH, Joe (listing each census under the head of household name) And in the source details I do a transcription of each census (like others have indicated in their notes... with each name in the household, birth, age, profession, etc.) and then I also attach the census image to the source. This source I then attach to all of the family members. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:01 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information Randolph Clark wrote Question: If you name the census image something other than the name of the primary person sought then how do you (easily) know whether you've found/saved that person's census location? I decided long ago that I needed a simple way of keeping track of what information or I had or did not have for every individual in my file so I created a spreadsheet. It has one sheet for each of the 4 branches of my family and each sheet has the User ID, forenames and surnames down the left side, with years of Birth and Death. There are then columns for Birth, Baptism, Marriage (3 columns - haven't had anyone marry 4 times yet!), Death and Burial, columns for each Census then columns showing briefly who the person is (wife of Joe Bloggs 123, for example) and their relationship (if any) to me. It only takes a second to update it as I go along and I can see at a glance where basic information is still to be located -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources
I agree. If the state maintains a database, then that simplifies things. In some cases, I use all in the county or city as the unit if quantity makes it simpler. Rich in LA CA From: Don Jaggi donj...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:41:30 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources I have a different appraoch; If I have death certificates for ancestors who died in Utah. I have one master source for Utah death certifcates. I have 20 individuals linked to that master source for which I have death certificates. I have a image of each certifcate in the source detail. The whole purpose of master sources is to make things more manageable. I do the same with census records. I have one master source for the 1851 census of Fife County Scotland and have 10 families linked to this particular census with all the particulars in the source detail with images. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:22 PM, michael barberi michaelbarb...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks Jenny. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:57:53 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth, Marriage, Death Sources michael barberi wrote However, my previous issue still stands. I have noticed that a Specific Master Source (for an individual's event) and the attached Picture of the source document, is showing up in someone else's Death Event (as a source). It is also in its correct place for the correct specific individual. Hence, my question about deleting it from the incorrect person's event and whether I will lose it all together for the correct person. If you go to the Assigned Sources screen for any Individual, click on one of the Sources and then click on Remove, that will disconnect that Source from that Individual only and will *not* delete the Master Source, nor will it disconnect that Master Source from any other Individual who is using the same Source. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center benefit
One quirk. When you first add a new photo, it won't move it sometimes until you have left the gallery, and reopened. I have determined the rules of the quirk, but it is just easier to do after inputtting is done. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:29:47 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture Center benefit Paula Ryburn wrote When you have several pictures in an individual's gallery, and they have been added in the order you found/scanned or took them, there is no way (that I could see) in the gallery to reorder the pictures. All you do is drag the picture across to the position you want it to be in. So if you want picture 1 of 5 to be in 4th position, just drag it over on top of the 4th position and let go. Pictures 2, 3 and 4 will move up to be 1, 2 and 3, the old 1 will be 4 and 5 will stay where it was. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Using the Descendant - Descendant chart. It doesn't show any brothers at all. What chart are you creating? It sounds like you are using Relationship Calculator, but the name in your message has something I couldn't identify. (I guessed it). are you basing your right and wrong on your ideas (I am) or the legal rules of inheritance, which I think most if not all programs use. I had a document of over twenty pages which described who was 'closer', but I lent it to someone who never returned it. I never found another one. It dealt mostly in the spread of 3 -5 generations, but handled inheritance issues of royalty/nobility of over 10 generations. It had some interesting quirks in the rules. I don't even remember the name of it. You may want to find a similar document. If you gave me the names of your people, and I have them in my DB, I can compare your report to mine. Send privately. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:06:51 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct ancestor, as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color. It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the other as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times, intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one brother is shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! Accordingly, Relationship Calculator shows no direct connection between me and the person it insists is my 28th GGU. That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, incorrectly, the Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th GGF (He is both). As I said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In this case, it cannot understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 28th GGF and also a son who is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. Accordingly, all the children in his line are not calculating as being my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry Colors and Direct Line Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two functions do not deal with the math. It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering confuses the program. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' lines, ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than you expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines? Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found between the 2 people. Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of analyzing where the divergences are? Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I was using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, then I eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found it was faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same problem. I bought a external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had it 'crash' yet. You may need more power. I did. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later, returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or numbers, or something). I forget the actual wording, because I am unwilling to tie up my computer for that long just to have it return the message. The default may be 999, but not for my file. Over many Legacy versions, the same problem has persisted. Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line Bolding. Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. And, with no capability to do a direct ancestry or descent, about which the OP was asking, I have a correctly colored, bolded, direct ancestor who cannot be shown as such by Relationship Calculator. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
As you have seen, you could call yourself, 'not that Sherrry', but it might be nicer as Sherry from ' '. At one point there were (and still are probably) about 6 helpers named variations of Rich, so I chose. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:35:40 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out wrote My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group Oh good! We already have a not that Brian, the other one, now we have the matching pair with a not that Sherry, the other one. My advice to you, Sherry, would be to take it S-l-o-w and read up everything you can on genealogy in general and Legacy in particular. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] half siblings do not show in all family views
I have seen this happen in my file too - and I am 95% sure I reported it, but I might not have. (And when I say reported it - I mean to support.) I have a woman who had some kids illigit - and I don't know the father. Then she married and had a few more. (just to make it more complicated, he was married before and had kids before too but that doesn't affect this.) He died, and then a number of years later, she had another child - and the only place a father is mentioned, it is the long-deceased husband so it appears that he was illigit too. I don't use people named unknown - I just let the program put in unknown. So I have the first children linked to mom, with an auto-generated unknown father. Then the next children linked to her and her husband The last child linked to mom, with a different auto-generated unknown father. When viewing the family with the mom and either of the unknown fathers, the children of the other unknown father are not shown. They all show up correctly when viewing the family of the mom and her husband. As I only have this situation once in my own files, and it is a family I am working with a lot, I just remember the little bug. To me it is more of an annoyance than anything, as I find the show 1/2 kids as a huge bonus I had never expected or had in any other program i have used. These people were entered a LONG time ago, so I don't remember the order I used to enter them or link them - but I'm not sure that matters. On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Thena Jones tsjone...@verizon.net wrote: Hello, Not all of the half-siblings appear in children's lists of the mother's 5 Family Views. I have selected to show 1/2 kids. This is a complicated family and I hope I am clear about this. (I am using version 7.0.0.109, on Windows Vista.) When I bring up the mother's Spouse list and select either of the entries for unknown, one of the children - one of the 2 daughters - disappears from the children list.
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information
In the same way, for US census, in the notes I put where I have looked for missing children (not the dead or known living elsewhere). ich in LA CA - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:04:47 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information Mary Trogg wrote Finally, as I find facts, I add to a short biography to notes. It's more interesting to read that a family moved from one state to another because the wife was hopelessly homesick, than to read the family lived in Minnesota, moved to Illinois and then back to Minnesota. I can choose to print either notes or events or both on a report depending on the recipient. Like I said labor intensive, but it appeals to my compulsive nature. I'm sure there are flaws to this system, but I print few reports and so far it works for me. That's got to be a good idea because it's one I have recently been mulling over in my mind! I probably wouldn't implement it exactly as you describe, but the basic idea is the same - putting everything into Events but writing a more flowing narrative in Notes. Funnily enough I wrote to another LUGger off-list only a couple of hours ago describing this, but saying I hadn't quite worked it out enough to go public with the idea! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Richard et al., I do not believe that any of us ought to be in the business of telling other *Legacy users* what to call themselves. Especially when the person, in this case, is Just Starting Out. Besides, Sherry and Brian, of Legacy, identify themselves as Support in their From lines. Yes, that was my idea. Far better to ask Sherry and Brian than to ask a newbie. Just my two-bits. Please no flames from anyone. Arnold At 06:33 PM 9/16/2009, you wrote: As you have seen, you could call yourself, 'not that Sherrry', but it might be nicer as Sherry from ' '. At one point there were (and still are probably) about 6 helpers named variations of Rich, so I chose. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:35:40 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out wrote My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group Oh good! We already have a not that Brian, the other one, now we have the matching pair with a not that Sherry, the other one. My advice to you, Sherry, would be to take it S-l-o-w and read up everything you can on genealogy in general and Legacy in particular. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Birth certificate as a master source
Thanks folks for pointing out that the name is in the detail. I hadn't gone that far down. I can now happily use this template, however I am not a lumper and will continue to keep each certificate as a master source. So far I have only 300 master sources for 5000 names in the larger of my two families and this will grow a I replace some of the Marginal evidence sources with better ones. It's not difficult to find any source one I need from the MS list. As a general principle, I have tried to identify the document in the master source fields, and note the relevant page or other identifying detail in the detail fields. The certificate templates have been set up in a different format so I will try to do things the proper way with certificates. I follow a convention recommended in Legacy's earlier video Ultimate Guide to Sources. I set up the Source List Name for all certificates (and some other documents) in the form Place - date - Surname, given names, document type. This way I can see in my master source list all the people, in date order, who have a relationship with the same place. Boyd -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Thursday, 17 September 2009 2:12 a.m. To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth certificate as a master source Boyd, Do not lose heart. I am mid-way in a process of moving my birth, death marriage sources from one per to something more lumped. But I have chosen to use state / county / year... or just state / year. As I said, I'm mid-way in the change process. Still, the template should work no matter your lumping level. ;) --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:39:03 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth certificate as a master source Boyd Miller wrote I treat each birth, marriage and death certificate as a master source because information from each certificate relates to a number of different people. A birth certificate can give father's and mothers full names, ages (hence approximate birth date), occupations and birthplaces, parents marriage date and place, and birth informant. Other certificates similarly have data on several people apart from the certificate subject person(s). I don't see that your reasoning above is valid. Just because a Source relates to several different people, it doesn't follow that you have to create a new Master Source for every similar document. That's what Source Detail is for. Master Source is for generalities - things that are likely to be repeated over and over, such as the fact that it's a Birth Certificate, that it was issued in a certain Country by a certain Authority. Source Details is for, not surprisingly, the details - things that won't be the same for every similar document, such as that the Birth Certificate is for Joe Bloggs or Fanny Adams. I am trying to cite a birth certificate issued in Scotland. The template for a birth certificate comes from Birth recordsBirth certificateAll countries except.Created at state/provincial levelbasic format (Most other options within this certificate string get you to a similar set of fields) There does not appear to be a field to record whose birth the certificate relates to. No, for the reasons I have given above. That field, is in the Source Details I think you would be well advised to re-think how you tackle Master Sources and make more use of Source Details. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.93/2365 - Release Date: 09/12/09 06:37:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.93/2365 - Release Date: 09/12/09 06:37:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages:
RE: [LegacyUG] half siblings do not show in all family views
Heather, Please see my response to the OP. When there are more than one unknown fathers it is necessary to specifically use the name Unknown (or anything else) for *both* unknowns. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:03:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] half siblings do not show in all family views From: hstov...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com I have seen this happen in my file too - and I am 95% sure I reported it, but I might not have. (And when I say reported it - I mean to support.) I have a woman who had some kids illigit - and I don't know the father. Then she married and had a few more. (just to make it more complicated, he was married before and had kids before too but that doesn't affect this.) He died, and then a number of years later, she had another child - and the only place a father is mentioned, it is the long-deceased husband so it appears that he was illigit too. I don't use people named unknown - I just let the program put in unknown. So I have the first children linked to mom, with an auto-generated unknown father. Then the next children linked to her and her husband The last child linked to mom, with a different auto-generated unknown father. When viewing the family with the mom and either of the unknown fathers, the children of the other unknown father are not shown. They all show up correctly when viewing the family of the mom and her husband. As I only have this situation once in my own files, and it is a family I am working with a lot, I just remember the little bug. To me it is more of an annoyance than anything, as I find the show 1/2 kids as a huge bonus I had never expected or had in any other program i have used. These people were entered a LONG time ago, so I don't remember the order I used to enter them or link them - but I'm not sure that matters. On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Thena Jones wrote: Hello, Not all of the half-siblings appear in children's lists of the mother's 5 Family Views. I have selected to show 1/2 kids. This is a complicated family and I hope I am clear about this. (I am using version 7.0.0.109, on Windows Vista.) When I bring up the mother's Spouse list and select either of the entries for unknown, one of the children - one of the 2 daughters - disappears from the children list. _ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Sherry, Welcome aboard! My first piece of advice would be to have a play; someone suggested entering a small number of relatives. Whilst this is good practice for entering and sourcing data etc., you may not wish to change this once entered, in which case play with the Sample file - that's what it is for. When entering data remember that just because a field is there you don't need to put anything in it if you don't want. In any event have a look at the Sample file to see what the set up is like. Go to OptionsCustomise and learn the settings, again by playing with them, I'm afraid that there are a lot. The Help files are *always* the most up to date and the Help button on a screen relates only to that screen (same as f1 in most programs). Back-up regularly when involved in a long session. If you do not have a backup Icon on the top-bar then right click on the bar and drag it onto the main bar (and any others you fancy!). Always back-up when finishing - if no changes have been made you will not be invited to. Maintaining your back-ups means you can play to your hearts content without worrying about losing your stuff. Regard the RINs and MRINs as just numbers and not related to the status, or order of preference, of any individual. I see that you are thinking of creating web pages, I have omitted simple as who knows how it will grow - have a look at my simple one :-). Which, by the way, contains some tutorials which may interest you, the fergys.co.uk one (below). If thinking of using the Pedigree web pages, in CustomiseOptions set Legacy not to re-use empty RINs as those pages use them as the file names. Only use alpha-numeric characters plus hyphen and underscores in file and folder names, and it is better to settle on how you are going to use the case from day one eg. ronferguson.jpg or RonFerguson.jpg etc. Incidentally, Legacy does not like JPEG, so always use JPG instead. Remember that whilst Windows is case insensitive most web servers are not. I think I'd better leave it there else you may feel that it's a bit complicated - always feel free to ask here! Good luck Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:48:20 + From: daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out Hi Everyone, My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group and have been watching it for about a week now. I haven't started on my family genealogy yet, so I have only purchased Legacy 7 with all the updates. Ron brought up a good point when he wrote: I've done some thinking about this and decided that the main reasons I want to use Legacy for are: 1) To upload my data to FamilySearch 2) Print some simple charts that show my direct line that includes their spouses and children 3) To create a simple web page with the information I find about my ancestors, including interesting stories, data, and sources for a very small family of a brother, sister, daughter, and nephew. I borrowed the first set of CDs on Legacy and watched them several times and they have helped me to learn how to get around the program and enter data. However, I am still left with trying to design my database as Ron pointed out. And, deciding on a way to enter sources, media, etc. When I find online information on my family and perhaps family trees that have been submitted how do I handle that? Do I download all the information and then go about trying to verify it? And probably many other things that I don't know enough about to even ask a question. Would you mind giving me some guidance about how to go about this? Sherry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
The chart wanted is a DIRECT descent from one person to another - something Legacy does not provide. A suggestion was made to the OP to use Relationship Calculator instead. My responses have been to the danger with doing that because Relationship Calculator has a serious problem that Legacy has been unable to deal with. Trying to create a direct descent chart from my aforementioned ancestor would be impossible for Legacy because, according to Relationship Calculator, I am not a direct descendant of his. Legacy, being unable to reliably calculate relationships, cannot reliably create descent or ancestry charts. So using Relationship Calculator is not a viable solution to the direct descent chart missing from Legacy. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:20 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Using the Descendant - Descendant chart. It doesn't show any brothers at all. What chart are you creating? It sounds like you are using Relationship Calculator, but the name in your message has something I couldn't identify. (I guessed it). are you basing your right and wrong on your ideas (I am) or the legal rules of inheritance, which I think most if not all programs use. I had a document of over twenty pages which described who was 'closer', but I lent it to someone who never returned it. I never found another one. It dealt mostly in the spread of 3 -5 generations, but handled inheritance issues of royalty/nobility of over 10 generations. It had some interesting quirks in the rules. I don't even remember the name of it. You may want to find a similar document. If you gave me the names of your people, and I have them in my DB, I can compare your report to mine. Send privately. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:06:51 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct ancestor, as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color. It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the other as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times, intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one brother is shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! Accordingly, Relationship Calculator shows no direct connection between me and the person it insists is my 28th GGU. That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, incorrectly, the Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th GGF (He is both). As I said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In this case, it cannot understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 28th GGF and also a son who is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. Accordingly, all the children in his line are not calculating as being my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry Colors and Direct Line Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two functions do not deal with the math. It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering confuses the program. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' lines, ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than you expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines? Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found between the 2 people. Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of analyzing where the divergences are? Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I was using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, then I eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found it was faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same problem. I bought a external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had it 'crash' yet. You may need more power. I did. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later, returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people
Re: [LegacyUG] Birth certificate as a master source
When I first started to source my data, I used the rule of thumb that a Master Source was any single document whether it was a single page, as a Birth Certificate, or millions of pages, as the 1900 U.S. Census. Of course, as time passed I encountered many sources for which this format wasn't a good fit. And then I came across collections of data, such as Ancestry.com has. So now I use the collection (e.g., Texas Marriage Collection, 1814-1909) as a Master Source. Almost all my Birth/Death certificates that I use as Master Sources were created with the Basic Source template, so the individual name is included in the Title. If you are determined to keep the BC as a Master Source, you might try entering individual identifying date in the Text or Comments fields and checking the Include on reports box and see if you can get wording that works for you. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: Boyd Miller bo...@vodafone.net.nz Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:57 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Birth certificate as a master source I treat each birth, marriage and death certificate as a master source because information from each certificate relates to a number of different people. A birth certificate can give father's and mothers full names, ages (hence approximate birth date), occupations and birthplaces, parents marriage date and place, and birth informant. Other certificates similarly have data on several people apart from the certificate subject person(s). I am trying to cite a birth certificate issued in Scotland. The template for a birth certificate comes from Birth recordsBirth certificateAll countries except.Created at state/provincial levelbasic format (Most other options within this certificate string get you to a similar set of fields) There does not appear to be a field to record whose birth the certificate relates to. If I use this master source to, for instance, source the parent's marriage place or the father's occupation, there is no way in the printed out source list that comes from this template, to tell which certificate the information was taken from. I can title the document in the Source List Name to uniquely identify it, but that does not print out in the reports. The same issue relates to citing marriage and death certificates - there does not appear to be a field to record the name of the principal player. These templates are thus of no use at all, or am I missing something? Do I have to go back to the Basic source format and use the Title field to get a source that tells me whose birth is being recorded? How does anybody else cite a birth certificate? Boyd No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.93/2365 - Release Date: 09/12/09 06:37:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
As somebody else suggested - are you certain that you PC is big enough, ie. enough memory, to handle your request? Have you tried increasing the virtual memory - if your hard drive is big enough? I still maintain that your setting of 50 is probably too low for all the blood relationships to be calculated. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:06:51 -0700 I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct ancestor, as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color. It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the other as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times, intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one brother is shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! Accordingly, Relationship Calculator shows no direct connection between me and the person it insists is my 28th GGU. That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, incorrectly, the Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th GGF (He is both). As I said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In this case, it cannot understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 28th GGF and also a son who is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. Accordingly, all the children in his line are not calculating as being my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry Colors and Direct Line Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two functions do not deal with the math. It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering confuses the program. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' lines, ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than you expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines? Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found between the 2 people. Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of analyzing where the divergences are? Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I was using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, then I eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found it was faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same problem. I bought a external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had it 'crash' yet. You may need more power. I did. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later, returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or numbers, or something). I forget the actual wording, because I am unwilling to tie up my computer for that long just to have it return the message. The default may be 999, but not for my file. Over many Legacy versions, the same problem has persisted. Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line Bolding. Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. And, with no capability to do a direct ancestry or descent, about which the OP was asking, I have a correctly colored, bolded, direct ancestor who cannot be shown as such by Relationship Calculator. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:45 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Out of interest, as I have no way of replicating your problem, why
RE: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Actually I believe we have Brian the Programmer and two Brians the User. Brian (User #1 or am I User #2?) -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:36 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out wrote My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group Oh good! We already have a not that Brian, the other one, now we have the matching pair with a not that Sherry, the other one. My advice to you, Sherry, would be to take it S-l-o-w and read up everything you can on genealogy in general and Legacy in particular. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] half siblings do not show in all family views
Only if the bug bothers you. I was just letting the original poster know that it was not just an anomaly of their database, but that it exists elsewhere. I see no reason why I can't have 2 unknown fathers (auto created) associated with the mother and kids as that was the situation. I have seen no other problems show up with these families - and for me it is a minor annoyance that I would rather have then to create actual records for the fathers. That was a decision I made when I first noticed the problem, and I chose not to make the records for the unknown fathers. As a programmer (not of Legacy), I can even see how this bug would likely have occurred in code - or in the logic used to create the list of 1/2 kids. - It is a problem that does not bother me. I let support know about it but it isn't a high priority to me. Just wanted to let the poster know that they are not alone in seeing it. But thanks Ron, for going to the effort of recreating it and coming up with the work around. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:12 PM, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: Heather, Please see my response to the OP. When there are more than one unknown fathers it is necessary to specifically use the name Unknown (or anything else) for *both* unknowns.
Re: [LegacyUG] Just Starting Out
Sherry, You asked: When I find online information on my family and perhaps family trees that have been submitted how do I handle that? Do I download all the information and then go about trying to verify it? I would be careful with what information you enter into your database that you pick up from online trees that do not list sources, but I personally do include such information if it seems to help obtain clues. Two things I would suggest when you add information to your database is that: 1) You always source the fields you populate so that later you know where and from whom you recorded the information. There is nothing worse than to look at your database and wonder where you got a specific piece of information, especially if you find other records whose data conflicts with what you already have. 2) As I enter the source information, I make use of Legacy's Surety Level, and use either 1 (Marginal), or 0 (Have Not Decided Yet) to be able to later identify those entries that I'm not sure of. You can include the Surety Level when you print Source Citations in your reports. Once so entered, I then also look for supporting source documentation to verify/validate the information. Tom On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM, daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Everyone, My name is Sherry and I've just joined the group and have been watching it for about a week now. I haven't started on my family genealogy yet, so I have only purchased Legacy 7 with all the updates. Ron brought up a good point when he wrote: Herein lies a problem which all of us have probably faced when first starting out on our ancestral trail - we do not know where we are going! The earlier this decision is taken then the earlier the format of the database can be set. It also follows that one may need more than one database, if there are to be multiple output formats. I've done some thinking about this and decided that the main reasons I want to use Legacy for are: 1) To upload my data to FamilySearch 2) Print some simple charts that show my direct line that includes their spouses and children 3) To create a simple web page with the information I find about my ancestors, including interesting stories, data, and sources for a very small family of a brother, sister, daughter, and nephew. I borrowed the first set of CDs on Legacy and watched them several times and they have helped me to learn how to get around the program and enter data. However, I am still left with trying to design my database as Ron pointed out. And, deciding on a way to enter sources, media, etc. When I find online information on my family and perhaps family trees that have been submitted how do I handle that? Do I download all the information and then go about trying to verify it? And probably many other things that I don't know enough about to even ask a question. Would you mind giving me some guidance about how to go about this? Sherry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] RE: Is it possible to COPY an event?
Ignore this post!! It was actually posted by my wife who apparently has not yet learned to use the HELP file that comes with Legacy and every other software program made since the invention of the wheel. Brian (the one sleeping on the couch tonight) -Original Message- From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:59 PM To: 'LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com' Subject: Is it possible to COPY an event? I've ignored this little task for almost two years now but sooner or later I need to duplicate a number of events on one person and attach the same event to a different person. The reason for my reluctance is that each event has a number of images attached and each event has extensive notes. I am well aware of the SOURCE CLIPBOARD but I don't see any means within Legacy other than to use the Windows clipboard for each new event to copy and paste from the other individual, create the field data, and paste the notes and images over and over and over..UGH! Any ideas? Brian (the one in CA) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
