Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

[Dave Naylor]

On 30 Sep 2009  Mike Fry wrote:

> Ahem! What's the difference between reading a single digest message
> that's very long and multiple, shorter messages?

*Every* message has to be read when it's a digest.  When they're 
separate messages we can decide, based on the Subject or other data, 
which ones to read.  Furthermore, some messages can be automatically 
routed directly to the bit bucket based on their content, size, 
format or writer   ;-))

Cheers, -- Dave N.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames With Mc Standard?

[Dave Naylor]

On 11 Sep 2009  ronald ferguson wrote:

> Nobody is stopping anyone from from doing it maunually, it rather
> depends on how may you have to replace doesn't it?

NO!!  Not in a Legacy database.

No matter how many there are there is only one Master Surname entry 
for each spelling.  So there in only one entry to be changed.

If this discussion is not about a Legacy database then IMHO it's off 
topic for this list.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames With Mc Standard?

[Dave Naylor]

On 11 Sep 2009  Paul Ramshaw wrote:

> Of course, there will be other Mc's besides McDonalds. So maybe you
> want to search and replace "Mc " with "Mc" and "Mac " with "Mac". (But
> I'd want to check that process one by one probably.) 

Why is Search & Replace even being suggested!?

It is so simple to go to the Master Surname List and scroll down to  
M.  Every unique surname beginning with M will be listed, and they 
can be edited (once for all individuals with that spelling) and can 
also be combined (where one has a space and another does not).  There 
is no reason to change records individually.

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[LegacyUG] How to remove "To Do Items" from Legacy

[Dave Johnson]

Hello Legacy User Colleagues,

Can anyone tell me how to remove To Do items from Legacy?  I know I can
complete them but I want to completely remove them so they do not show up
when I synch for other family members.

Thanks.

Dave




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RE: [LegacyUG] Duplcate Pictures Continued

[Dave Miller]

   Dear Nina,

 

 This is Outlook 2007 ;

 

To send all your emails in plain text ;  On the menu bar at the top go to,
'Tools', in the drop-down list click on 'Options' at the bottom. In the
little window that opens there are five tabs, the centre one is 'Mail
Format'. Click on that and in the top right-hand corner there is the
drop-down box for message format. Choose 'Plain Text'.

 

To sent to one Contact only, in plain text, eg.
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com ;  Go to your Contacts and double-click
the name, the so-called 'Contact Card' will open up. On the left is the
contact's email address. Double-click the email address itself
(LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com) and on the little box that opens, the
bottom line is once again a drop-down box where you select 'Plain Text'.

 

 The Legacy Group may not be in your contacts, if not ;  Go to any email
message from the group, mine for example, and right-click the "To" address,
near the top, (LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com).  In the option list
that opens click on 'Add To Outlook Contacts'.

 

 You can, alternatively, just set each message to plain text before you send
it by going to the 'Options' tab, in the middle at the top of the message
you are composing, and in the middle there is a 'Format' section with 'Plain
Text' as one of the options.  Personally I don't do this as I always forget
to do it, so I use one of the other methods above.

 

  Regards,

Dave (NZ).

 

 

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Nina K. Johnson
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 09:39
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Duplcate Pictures Continued 

 

While working on these duplicate pictures . . . I've still found some, BUT I
think they are for different reasons.  The one place I've neglected is in
OPTIONS/Customize/Locations/   1. View All Current List of Multimedia
Locations,  and 2. Test all Multimedia Paths.  I did find a few duplicates
I've been able to take out everything in "1." But now I suspicious of "2."
What do some of you think at this point?  I should be able to rescan most of
the pictures, but you know what a job that could be.  

 

I know I have the file backed up several places:  C drive of laptop;
desktop/laptop; R flash drive; f drive on network.  Overkill, but I'm so
afraid of loosing my work.  

 

What do you super brain-i-acks (JUST KIDDING) think I should do now?

 

And what about a suggestion to Legacy that we can see the name of the book
title when we are working in that field?

 

And could someone tell me again how to "Compose to Simple Text" in Outlook?
I've been told but cannot remember!!!  Age, I guess!

 

 

 


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[LegacyUG] Family History News Update

[Dave Johnson]

Does anyone know the status of Legacy's certification process?

 

Dave

 

 

News

Family History News Update

 

Here is some important information about a newly certified software
application that will work directly with the new.familysearch.org Web site
to prepare ancestral ordinances for the temple.

 

RootsMagic 4 is the first software affiliate product that is certified to
reserve and submit ancestral names to temples to print LDS temple name cards
using new FamilySearch Web services.

 

As an application that is certified to reserve ordinances, RootsMagic 4 has
the ability to link people in your desktop genealogy file with matching
people on the new.familysearch.org Web site. Once linked, a simple click on
the temple icon next to a person's name will display that person's official
temple ordinances, complete with dates, temple name, and status. Incomplete
temple ordinances may then be reserved to be performed at a later time. Your
own file may also be updated with ordinances that are already completed.
RootsMagic 4 can select reserved ordinances and print a Family Ordinance
Request (FOR) form to take to the temple. Once at the temple, a worker will
scan the bar code on the form and print all the desired temple name
ordinance cards. Once the ordinances have been completed, RootsMagic will be
updated with your ancestors' new ordinance status.

 

For more product information go to:  <http://www.rootsmagic.com/fs/>
http://www.rootsmagic.com/fs/.

 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Address

[Dave Johnson]

Leo,

When I was cleaning up my Master Location List, I started entering the
cemetery names in the Burial Address Field.  I have some 11,000 individuals
in my Legacy file and don't want to search them individually to find out
which ones have the cemetery name in the Burial Address Field.  So I want to
find a way to tag all records that have any entry in the Burial Address
Field, so that I can structure the cemetery names so they can be searched
and reported in an appropriate manner.  I have not yet found a way to do a
search of the Burial Address Field.

Dennis suggested:
You might have to use SQL to do this...

UPDATE tblIR SET tblIR.Tag1=1 WHERE tblIR.IDARBuried<>0

But I have no idea what this means or how to do it.  I do not have MS Access
on my computer.

Dave

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of leo macdonald
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 6:26 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Address


Hi Dave, I'm not quite sure what you are trying to do here, could you give
us some more details of what you are trying to accomplish.
Leo


> From: davel...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Address
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:59:55 -0700
>
> Thank you all for your input. I will select an option from the ones that
> have been submitted.
>
> Can anyone tell me how to tag the records that have any entry "Burial
> Address" field? I've tried all the search commands and have been unable to
> find the records where I did put the Cemetery Name in the Burial Address
> field.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dave


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RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Address

[Dave Johnson]

Thank you all for your input.  I will select an option from the ones that
have been submitted.

Can anyone tell me how to tag the records that have any entry "Burial
Address" field?  I've tried all the search commands and have been unable to
find the records where I did put the Cemetery Name in the Burial Address
field.

Thanks.

Dave

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of leo macdonald
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 5:16 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Address


Hi Dave,
I have wrestled with this problem myself, I found that in local newspapers
and in books on communities or in books on family lines that sometimes a
particular cemetery can be called by two, three or more different versions
of the same cemetery name. As an example: 
West Devon Cemetery; United Church Cemetery, West Devon; Presbyterian Church
Cemetery, West Devon; etc. All refer to the same cemetery, and I had all
three or more listed in my location list.
Some times I would run across someone who had died and was buried in West
Devon but I couldn't remember what the name of the cemetery was and I would
spend a lot of time trying to locate the name in my location list.
As well if I wanted to print out a report listing everyone who was buried in
this cemetery, I'd have to look up all the different variations and tag each
of them.
The approach that I took to correct this and that places all cemeteries in
the same place in the location list is to include the full name of the
cemetery and put all cemeteries in the same format, this works great for me,
it may not work for anyone else.

I place my example above as follows:
 
Cemetery: United Presbyterian Church, West Devon,,.,..., Canada.
 
By using this format, all my cemeteries can now be located by typing in Cem,
they are sorted alphabetically by the first letter in the word following the
":".
You can still do searches from left to right or right to left.
Leo
 

> From: davel...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial Address
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:18:42 -0700
> 
> Perhaps this has been discussed before, but alas . . . .
> 
> I'm frustrated trying to determine where to document cemetery information.
> I've begun putting the Cemetery information in the Burial Address field.
> However, I cannot find a way to search using the Burial Address field. If
I
> put the Cemetery in the Burial Place field, that screws up the Master
> Location List. I'd like to be advised by those long time users of Legacy
> how they think the best way is to document the Cemetery where someone is
> buried.
> 
> I am using Legacy 7.0.0.90.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[LegacyUG] Burial Address

[Dave Johnson]

Perhaps this has been discussed before, but alas . . . .

I'm frustrated trying to determine where to document cemetery information.
I've begun putting the Cemetery information in the Burial Address field.
However, I cannot find a way to search using the Burial Address field. If I
put the Cemetery in the Burial Place field, that screws up the Master
Location List.  I'd like to be advised by those long time users of Legacy
how they think the best way is to document the Cemetery where someone is
buried.

I am using Legacy 7.0.0.90.

Thanks,

Dave




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Re: Re: [LegacyUG] Private Flaming (pdf to Word?)

[Dave Bardue]

Try this free little program.  I've used it and it seems to work fine and 
hasn't been caught in any of my spam searches yet.
 Go to:
http://www.hellopdf.com/download.php
Near the bottom of the page click either Site 1, Site 2 or Site 3.
Any other clicks may get you into non FREE choices.
Dave B
From: jeffma...@orthohelp.com Go to:
http://www.hellopdf.com/download.php
Near the bottom of the page click either Site 1, Site 2 or Site 3.
Any other clicks may get you into non FREE choices.
Receiver: LegacyUserGroup 
Time: 2009-03-28, 02:52:45
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Private Flaming (pdf to Word?)


How do you convert PDF to Word (without purchasing adobe)?  Did you mean rtf to 
Word?
 
Jeff
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Private Flaming


Connie,


One of my complaints of both programs is the child-like repetitiveness of 
database facts when using pre-formed sentences to create narratives.  The 
Descendant reports have most of the information I want but, as written, are 
deadly boring to other non-genealogist family members.  To rectify this I save 
the report as a PDF file, convert it to Word format and go to work on it to try 
to flesh out my ancestors' lives a bit.  Most of the content is there - it just 
needs some humanizing.  
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[LegacyUG] Re: Report problem

[Dave Naylor]

On 24 Mar 2009  Eileen wrote:

> They are all the same, believe me.  Now I know that this could be a
> old problem, because I have not worked on any of the Location file in
> years.   It would be nice if the program merged all of them together,
> but it does not, I combine them into one, and sometimes, as I merge a
> few together, I can see it adding a name like the one I'm working on,
> and when you click on the added one, there will be no names attached to
> it, so I merge again.

You need to "Purge unused" locations first.

Cheers, -- Dave N.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Run Time Error "5"

[Dave Johnson]

Is anyone else having trouble updating or even getting into the Legacy Web
Site?

Dave


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Of Gene Young
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 8:40 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Run Time Error "5"

PHILLIP O HUSBAND wrote:
> Brian, it would seem to me that in the future when a known problem 
> surfaces, especially one caused by some kind of programming error, a 
> general statement could or should be made to all users, not just those 
> on LUG.For instance in a short newsletter or on the Legacy Home Page
> that shows on our pc's when we open Legacy. 

When you open Legacy, click on the Legacy Home Tab.  On the right hand 
side of that page you will see a box labeled "Updates".  In this box you 
will see what version you have installed.  It will also indicate that 
"You have the latest build."  Or that "Update xx is available."

-- 
Gene Y.
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[LegacyUG] Run Time Error "5"

[Dave Johnson]

I am wondering if anyone else has experienced this "Run Time Error '5' Run
Time Procedure Call or Argument" since the latest update to Legacy 7.0.0.89?

This occurs when adding a new Source with the SourceWriter.  All you have to
do is add a w in the Url field.  This error occurs and after clicking OK,
Legacy shuts down.  I have had to resort to putting the url in Notepad and
coping it into the Url field in Legacy.  That works.  But you cannot start
typing www. Or you get this error.

Dave




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RE: [LegacyUG] New family search.org

[Dave Johnson]

I attended a genealogy conference yesterday in Bountiful, Utah.  While
there, I spoke with Geoff Rasmussen and the staff about this issue.  They
reported that they expect to be fully certified with new.familysearch.com
within the next month.

 

We'll see, but that is the latest news I've heard.

 

Dave

 

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Of Ed maurer
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 3:48 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] New family search.org

 

To Legacy and the List:

I have asked when legacy was going to be useable with the New.family search
and I still do not get a answer as to the date.  I have a lot of work to do
so I am starting to use another program

Ed in Mountlake Terrace

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RE: [LegacyUG] PICTURE coding

[Dave Johnson]

I subdivided my picture file by creating a separate folder for each of my
grandparents surname.   I'm not sure that many will think this a good idea,
but it seems to work for me.

Dave

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Subject: [LegacyUG] PICTURE coding

In Legacy/Pictures, my file is getting quite  large so is there another way 
to break it down in "sub sections?"  

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Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting to a new Family File

[Dave Naylor]

This is an area of Legacy that functions in a way that is not at all 
user-intuitive in spite of suggestions over many years to eliminate 
the confusion!

As has already been mentioned, when an EXPORT is selected, Legacy 
creates an empty database which contains all the default 
values/settings.  Unfortunately from that point on Legacy's 
programming looks at everything from the viewpoint of an IMPORT into 
that empty database.

When an event is exported to that "empty" file and the exported event 
doesn't match the default definition value(s), Legacy opens up a very 
unnecessary and ridiculous window which mentions an IMPORT replacing 
an existing event.  Obviously since this is an EXPORT to a supposedly 
empty database, Legacy should automatically replace the empty 
database's default value(s) with the imported values.  But instead, 
it confuses the user with words referring to an IMPORT and these 
apply to the way it is programmed instead of words that apply to what 
the user is doing.

If you are exporting to an empty file and the Combine Event 
Definition window appears you need to click on "For this import, 
always overwrite the existing event with the incoming event"

Cheers, -- Dave N.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Old Style/New Style dates for pre 1754 England, how to enter

[Dave Naylor]

On 14 Feb 2009  Elizabeth wrote:

> My double dating system works beautifully with my English ancestors, but
> I now find that my early German ancestors are given the alternative
> dates as well.  Is it possible to allow double dates (ie b. 1 Jan
> 1748/49) in general, but to override them for the dozen or so German
> ancestors? 

No!

Using Legacy's double-dating feature can cause many problems as it 
*assumes* that every country changed at the same time -- WRONG! -- 
and it assumes that dates are always entered in "Old Style" -- this 
can be WRONG!   I make sure that Legacy's double-dating feature is 
always turned off.

However, big problem . . . with Legacy's double-dating feature turned 
off you cannot enter your own double-dates as they should be 
represented without having them totally corrupted!!  So I end up 
entering them as, for example, "5 Jan 1723-5 Jan 1724"

Sadly Millennia isn't willing to fix this BIG deficiency (reported 
many times over the years) in an otherwise fantastic program.

Cheers, -- Dave N.
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[LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

[Dave Johnson]

For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my
family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc.  I have
used the SourceWriter to document each entry.  

For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone
back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the data
quickly.  This tells me that my source details pass the test of
"findability."

Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of each
census record to include with each reference to the census document in
Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events.

How would you professionals answer this query?

Dave






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RE: [LegacyUG] Round-Robin

[Dave Johnson]

Although I'm not an expert, I suggest that you highlight the father and
unlink him from his son who is serving in the position of his father.

Dave

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Of momalo...@aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Round-Robin

For lack of a better word, a son has a father,  and the son is then father, 
and it keeps going around and around???  How do  I fix it?  What do you call

it???  

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RE: [LegacyUG] How to identify the commonly used first name?

[Dave Johnson]

Forgive me if I do not understand, but I thought that was the purpose of the
Nickname "Event" or for the Alias.  Do neither of these approaches produce
the desired results?

Dave

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Janis L Gilmore
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 3:35 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to identify the commonly used first name?

Cathy,

Although it may feel awkward, I think the better way is to write it as:
Robert Blair "Blair" Surname

I you enclose the first instance of Blair in quotes, it implies that "Blair"
is truly a nickname, rather than a legitimate name. Doing it this way allows
you to show that his full name was Robert Blair Surname, but that he went by
his middle name.

Janis Walker Gilmore



On 2/7/09 4:39 PM, "Cathy Vallevieni"  wrote:

> When a person's middle name is the name they used and were known by,
> do you put quotes around that middle name to make it clear that was
> the name used?  I know if someone had a name Elizabeth and went by
> Betty that you would enter Elizabeth "Betty" in the first name
> field.  Not sure that someone named Robert Blair who went by Blair
> should be entered at Robert "Blair" but how else to show this is the
> name he used?
> 
> Thanks for any ideas.
> 
> Cathy Vallevieni
> Orange County, CA
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [LegacyUG] uploading changed web pages

[Dave Naylor]

On 1 Feb 2009  ronald ferguson wrote:

> I don't use Filezilla so cannot comment on that program, but all the
> ones I have tried enable the lists to be sorted in modified date
> order by clicking "Date" in the coluimn header.
> Thus, one can select all those changed after a certain date.

I believe this does not really satisfy the intent of the original 
question -- how to upload only files that have changed.

When Legacy web pages are generated *ALL* those files will have a new 
date but that does not indicate that the contents of a file is any 
different from the previously-generated one.

SyncBack can be used to *compare* the data within the new and 
previous files and can be arranged to upload *only* those which have 
really been changed (regardless of their date stamp).

The best FileZilla can do (with Legacy-generated files) is to check 
for differences in the file sizes between the new files and those on 
the web server.  However, obviously you can make changes to an 
individual record in Legacy and the file size could remain the same, 
and so would not be uploaded.  Furthermore some web servers don't 
report the filesizes the same as they were when uploaded.

Cheers, -- Dave N.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Need overall help

[Dave Naylor]

On 30 Jan 2009  Cathy Vallevieni wrote:

> For places that I want to know exactly the address and that I want to
> map to that exact address, I enter them in the long description as: 
> City - 123 Main St, County, State, Country 
> 
> The reason for reversing the city and street address in the long 
> description is so it can be found when looking at the Master
> Locations List.

Why would you reverse them when it is unnecessary?  They can be 
entered in a logical sequence from smallest area to largest area 
complete with comma separators (there are 9 fields for this).  Then 
the Master Locations can be set to a "Direction of Sort" of "Right to 
Left" so that the listing is always sorted from the largest area 
down.  

I cannot understand why anyone would use the other available sorts 
which are all redundant and only apply to (most but not all) USA 
locations when the Right to Left sort applies worldwide (including 
all USA locations).  The only problem is for those who cannot be 
bothered to include the country in their locations.

Cheers, -- Dave N.
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Re: [LegacyUG] uploading changed web pages

[Dave Naylor]

On 30 Jan 2009  Syble Glasscock wrote:

> I'd really like something that would compare the files online to my new
> files and highlight or something showing what files need to be
> uploaded. thanks, Syble Glasscock 

I use the free version of SyncBack from 2BrightSparks at 
http://www.2BrightSparks.com/  to upload my Legacy-generated web 
pages.

It can be programmed to only upload files that have changed -- but 
make sure you don't have an "Updated" date on your pages.

It can also be stopped during the upload and will continue where it 
left off (after re-comparing all your files).

Cheers, -- Dave N.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Access dates

[Dave Johnson]

Please stick around.  I appreciate the input and I asked the original
question.

Dave

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Debra Andrew
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:50 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Access dates

Dear List:

I'm sorry if anyone has taken offense at my reply as it was not directed to 
anyone personally. The question was raised as to why would someone include 
access dates and the reasoning behind it.  If you look at my message 
carefully, you will see it is written in the third person and is very 
general, nor does it direct any accusations toward anyone about their level 
and ability in researching, whom they were researching, how many records 
they own personally or how many times they have looked at those particular 
records.  The message was in response to why would someone would want to 
record these dates.

When someone looks to see when a record has been accessed, it is "not" to 
enhance or deflate their ego, but is just another research tool to be looked

at objectively in furthering research in any given area.  If someone never 
puts their info on line, publishes it or shares it with anyone, they have no

need to document their research.  As I have read on the National Genealogy 
site, a genealogy without doucmentation is a fairy tale, not a genealogy.

Everyone is at different levels and interest in their genealogy research. 
It is just as easy to record the date as not to add it. If someone wants a 
reference source for citing evidence, both Legacy and Ancestry recommends 
"Evidence Explained Citing History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace" by 
Elizabeth Shown Mills.

Referencing an access date does not mean everytime somone looks at it in 
their personal files it needs to be annotated, but when it is referred to in

public file that is obtained in another place, like a library, a website, or

a government office.

The response I received is just below a level of a flame. I'm removing 
myself from this list as not to give offense to anyone else and cause them 
undue pain in their emotions.

D. Andrew



- Original Message - 
From: "Elizabeth Richardson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Access dates


>
> Reply changed to plain text as the list rules requires it.
>
> Of course, if it's important to you to have the date, then record it. Does

> EE require it? (Not that I'd probably care if it does, but the standard 
> sourcing I've seen in other scholarly journals does not include this 
> information.) I'm not out to prove that I'm a better researcher than the 
> next guy, so I'm  not comparing my work to anyone. My work is as good as I

> can make it. If someone wants to compare their work to mine, his ego will 
> either be enhanced or not and I have no control over that. I have no 
> desire to go over old work to see if a document has been rescanned, OCR'd,

> etc. I have many hundreds of census records downloaded to my computer and 
> yes, I have looked at them again, primarily because my sources from early 
> work isn't in the format I now prefer. My work is not being done for any 
> legal representation of my ancestors, and if you'll look at my tagline, 
> I'm not even researching my ancestors.
>
> Elizabeth
> researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson




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RE: [LegacyUG] IGI

[Dave Johnson]

Tim,

I "always" get an error when I try to search the IGI from Legacy, but I
click on OK and it logs me in and I'm able to have access through Legacy.  I
do not have to log into the IGI separately.

Dave

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Tim Rosenlof
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:53 PM
To: Legacy Users Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] IGI

FYI I forgot to mention. If you happen to be a member of the LDS church and 
are collecting the temple data with the @, go to familysearch.org and log 
in, because the log in Legacy does not work when it asks you for your 
username and password for LDS data. You need to sign on independently from 
familysearch. Do it first if you are looking for temple data.
Tim 




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[LegacyUG] Date Fields in Source Detail

[Dave Johnson]

For the past couple of months, I've been sourcing all my family -- typically
via Census records.  I am confused why there are two date fields in the
Source Detail for US Federal Census records.  One is the "Date Accessed"
which I interpret as the date I found the Census record.  The second date
field is the "Recorded Date" with a "Today's Date" button.  I interpret this
date as the date I make the source entry into my Legacy File.

Since I find the records and enter them on the same day, both dates have
always been the same.

Can someone help me understand why it is necessary to have both date fields?

Thank you for your help.

Dave




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Re: [LegacyUG] legacy update

[Dave Naylor]

On 28 Jan 2009  Kathy Miller wrote:

> I directed it to the same place as the former version on the C drive
> under program files.  However, it installed a new Legacy folder
> inside the old Legacy folder complete with all new folders of the
> same names.

What I'll bet actually happened is that you selected the location 
using Browse.  When that is done the default location of "\Legacy" is 
appended to the selected location.  You also need to check the 
install location that was displayed.  It would have shown the extra 
"\Legacy" which needed to be deleted before continuing.

> Can I just delete the original folders - moving the data to the new
> data folder

NO!!  You need to uninstall Legacy 7 and then re-install it in the 
location you want it.  But this time check that the location shown is 
the one you really want.

Cheers, -- Dave N.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Naming Convention

[Dave Williams]

Thanks, Michele!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michele Lewis 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Naming Convention


  As far as sourcing goes, here is how I have my source list set up so that I 
can find things easily

  [this is a small snippet, I have about 400 sources I think]


  Bible Records - GA - John Lewis Family Bible
  Bible Records - GA - Needham William Morris Jr. Family Bible
  Bible Records - MS - James Simmons Jr. Family Bible
  Bible Records - MS - Thomas Elias Graham Family Bible

  Birth Records - MS - Lamar Co (certificates - delayed)
  Birth Records - MS - Lamar Co (certificates)
  Birth Records - GA - Columbia Co (certificates)
  Birth Records - TX - Texas Birth Index, 1903 - 1997 (internet database)

  Cemetery Records - FL - Escambia Co - Hendrix Family Cemetery (survey)
  Cemetery Records - GA - Columbia Co - Bugg Family Cemetery (survey)
  Cemetery Records - GA - Columbia Co - First Baptist Church Cemetery - (survey)
  Cemetery Records - MS - Lamar Co - The Complete Book of Lamar Co, MS 
Cemeteries (book)

  Census - Federal - GA - Richmond Co - 1830
  Census - Federal - GA - Richmond Co - 1840
  Census - Federal - GA - Richmond Co - 1850
  Census - Federal - GA - Richmond Co - 1860
  Census - Federal - MS - Forrest Co - 1900
  Census - Federal - MS - Forrest Co - 1910
  Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1840
  Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850
  Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1860
  Census - Federal - SC - Edgefield Co - 1810
  Census - Federal - SC - Edgefield Co - 1820
  Census - Federal - SC - Edgefield Co - 1830

  Church Records - GA - Richmond Co - Oak Grove Baptist Church Membership 
Records
  Church Records - MS - Perry Co - Old Enon Baptist Church Minutes

  Court Records - GA - Columbia Co - Columbia Co, GA Early Court Records (book)

  Death Records - AL - Montgomery Co (certificates)
  Death Records - FL - Florida Death Index, 1877-1998 (online database)
  Death Records - FL - Hillsborough Co (certificates)
  Death Records - FL - Hillsborough Co (funeral cards)
  Death Records - GA - Richmond Co (certificates)

  Deeds - MS - Marion Co - Various Deeds of Marion Co, MS (online database)

  Divorce Records - AL - Alabama Divorce Index, 1950-1959 (online database)
  Divorce Records - FL - Florida Divorce Index, 1927-2001 (online database

  Interview - Coyle, Carol Lewis
  Interview - Debrow, Gerald
  Interview - Entrekin, Norman Hilton
  Interview - Entrekin, Pauline Howard
  Interview - Guy, May Taylor

  You get the idea

  I also have 
  Court Records
  Education Records
  Land Records
  Letters
  Locations Records (this is for books about specific counties or areas)
  Marriage Records
  Military Records
  Newspapers
  Tax Records
  Social Secuity Records
  Surname Records (this is for books about a specific family)
  Wills/Probate Records

  Michele
- Original Message - 
From: Dave Williams 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Naming Convention


I'm impressed!  Thanks to everyone who answered my post so quickly and 
offered great advice.

Elizabeth  and others, I understand your caution against using surname in 
the master source list.  The reason I considered that was due to the training 
CD Legacy's Ultimate Guide to Sources, in which Mr. Rasmussen suggests using 
reverse locality for naming most of his sources in the master source list (for 
sorting purposes) and surnames for others.  He just didn't cover maiden names.

Thanks again.

Dave


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave Williams 
  To: LegacyUserGroup 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:41 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Naming Convention


  I am new to this user group and fairly new to genealogy in general, and I 
want to start out on the right foot.

  I know that women entered into family group records should be entered 
under their maiden names.  But how do you handle sources, events and such after 
their name changes in marriage?  Case in point, my mother.  Her maiden name was 
Shirley Akers.  Her name became Shirley Williams when she married.  I entered 
her on the family group sheet as Akers.  But many of the events in her later 
life, as well as many of her letters, published articles and e-mails that I 
have as sources, are under the name of Williams.  

  I'm thinking I would cite sources just like anyone else, but put the 
master source name under Akers.  Any suggestions?  I'm a bit confused on this 
point.

  Thanks in advance for advice.  I'm looking forward to learning from this 
group.

  Dave Williams


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Re: [LegacyUG] Naming Convention

[Dave Williams]

I'm impressed!  Thanks to everyone who answered my post so quickly and offered 
great advice.

Elizabeth  and others, I understand your caution against using surname in the 
master source list.  The reason I considered that was due to the training CD 
Legacy's Ultimate Guide to Sources, in which Mr. Rasmussen suggests using 
reverse locality for naming most of his sources in the master source list (for 
sorting purposes) and surnames for others.  He just didn't cover maiden names.

Thanks again.

Dave


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave Williams 
  To: LegacyUserGroup 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:41 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Naming Convention


  I am new to this user group and fairly new to genealogy in general, and I 
want to start out on the right foot.

  I know that women entered into family group records should be entered under 
their maiden names.  But how do you handle sources, events and such after their 
name changes in marriage?  Case in point, my mother.  Her maiden name was 
Shirley Akers.  Her name became Shirley Williams when she married.  I entered 
her on the family group sheet as Akers.  But many of the events in her later 
life, as well as many of her letters, published articles and e-mails that I 
have as sources, are under the name of Williams.  

  I'm thinking I would cite sources just like anyone else, but put the master 
source name under Akers.  Any suggestions?  I'm a bit confused on this point.

  Thanks in advance for advice.  I'm looking forward to learning from this 
group.

  Dave Williams


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[LegacyUG] Naming Convention

[Dave Williams]

I am new to this user group and fairly new to genealogy in general, and I want 
to start out on the right foot.

I know that women entered into family group records should be entered under 
their maiden names.  But how do you handle sources, events and such after their 
name changes in marriage?  Case in point, my mother.  Her maiden name was 
Shirley Akers.  Her name became Shirley Williams when she married.  I entered 
her on the family group sheet as Akers.  But many of the events in her later 
life, as well as many of her letters, published articles and e-mails that I 
have as sources, are under the name of Williams.  

I'm thinking I would cite sources just like anyone else, but put the master 
source name under Akers.  Any suggestions?  I'm a bit confused on this point.

Thanks in advance for advice.  I'm looking forward to learning from this group.

Dave Williams






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Re: [LegacyUG] RootsWeb's lists and spam -- formerly: "Why are we using this mailing list?"

[Dave Naylor]

On 15 Jan 2009  Jackie King wrote:

> Roots has not been the most reliable in the past year. All you have to
> do is note all of the problems being reported in the Listowners-L list
> on Rootsweb about non-delivery of email since before Christmas on some
> lists, and sporadic delivery on others.

Like Mike Fry, you are making some statements that are incorrect and 
others that don't relate to all RootsWeb's lists.

The problems RootsWeb experienced from Christmas to yesterday were 
only on one server (Lists-9) and these were due to a high level of 
spam reaching this server (but *not* going to the subscribers).  This 
unusual level of spam caused the server to crash and then a backup 
recovery sent many very old messages on their way to members a second 
time.  The volumes have also caused valid messages to be delayed.

> The list problem has gotten so bad that the moderator there has told
> the listowners to just quit complaining since they can't do anything
> about it anyway until rootsweb figures it out. 

Again, this is incorrect.  This had nothing to do with "the list 
problem has gotten so bad"!  The LO admin said that the complaints 
were off-topic for the listowners (LO) mailing list because their 
fellow list admins couldn't do anything about it.  At least this 
shows that RootsWeb's lists are being monitored by their 
administrators and off-topic threads are ended, as you indeed know.

> The WashDC list and APG list are two that I am subscribed to that have
> reported more problems with it in the past several days and this note
> this morning from the National Coordinator of the Tombstone
> Transcription Project.

These are on the Lists-9 server and were affected by this same single 
problem.

> I doubt you would get quite that deluge from the Legacy list since
> according to its archives it doesn't seem to be all that active. 

RootsWeb's Legacy mailing list is on the List-3 server which has had 
no problems.

Problems with spam on RootsWeb's mailing lists (and all others 
including this one) are exacerbated by uneducated web builders who 
place unprotected links for these mailing lists on their web pages.  
If anyone, including Millennia, is going to place mail-to links on 
their web pages then they need to ensure that those links are 
encrypted to discourage harvesting by spammers.

Another cause of high levels of spam being sent to a few RootsWeb's 
mailing lists is list administrators that respond to spam messages 
instead of discarding them.  This response only results in telling 
the spammer that a live address has been reached, then even more spam 
will be received!  Hopefully RootsWeb's Legacy list administrator 
doesn't do this.

Cheers, -- Dave N.




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[LegacyUG] Why are we using this mailing list?

[Dave Naylor]

Hello folks

The recent insults, etc. have shown that Millennia are unable to run 
a mailing list correctly.  In my opinion this is the last straw for a 
list that has had more than its share of upsets and angry members.

Not only is there inadequate moderation of this list, Millennia has 
also shown that it is unable to block HTML and attachments.

So why are we all using it?  RootsWeb has a perfectly good LEGACY 
mailing list that blocks HTML and attachments.  Legacy's technical 
support monitors that list and replies to messages as do others that 
are also members of this list.

LET'S ALL MOVE TO ROOTSWEB'S LEGACY MAILING LIST.

Send your "Subscribe" message to legacy-l-requ...@rootsweb.com

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RE: [LegacyUG] ANIMAP and 64 bit VISTA

[Dave Johnson]

I am the proud owner of an HP Pavilion Entertainment PC laptop running Vista
(64 bit).  I use Legacy version 7. I run Animap 3.0 on it.  Everything seems
to work great.

Dave

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Subject: [LegacyUG] ANIMAP and 64 bit VISTA

Well, I recently bit the bullet and purchased ANIMAP 3.0 from the
Legacy web site. Now I am looking at a new computer with the Vista 64
bit operating system. I was wandering if anyone has ANIMAP working on
a 64 bit system and if so, are there any problems?

I do enjoy the program and have used it extensively in just the few
weeks I have had it. I would hate not to be able to use it on an new
machine.

Thanks,

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RE: [LegacyUG] Search Problem

[Dave Johnson]

The Great Legacy Helpers!

I am reluctant to spam the many great helpers on this list.  However, I
thought I should at least do it once.  

I'm relatively new to Legacy but "I Love It!!!"  

Thanks to your help, I continue to learn how to use different pieces and
parts.  I am constantly reviewing postings and appreciate all the good
advice that is given.  What a great piece of software and a wonderful
support base.  Thank you!

Dave

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problem

I believe that's under the new Search options. Try the 'Missing 
Information' tab.
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Dave Johnson wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how to tag everyone in the Legacy 7 database who does 
> not have a birth date? I've tried the search but alas . . . .
>
> Search
>
> Look for whom? Individual
>
> Where to look? Birth Date
>
> How to look? ???
>
> What to look for? ???
>
> I've tried most combinations of the latter two without success. How do 
> you tell Legacy you want the individuals with a "null" birth date?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
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RE: [LegacyUG] Forms Center on a 64-bit system

[Dave Johnson]

After trying all the forms on my system, I encountered no problems at all.
I have a 64 bit Vista machine with 4 gigs and I can also access all the
forms and questionnaires.

 

Dave

 

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of MICHELLE CROSBY
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 3:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Forms Center on a 64-bit system

 

   All,

I have a 64 bit Vista machine with 4 gigs and still can access all the forms
and questionaires.  What forms or questionaires are

you trying to access?

 

Shelly






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[LegacyUG] Search Problem

[Dave Johnson]

Does anyone know how to tag everyone in the Legacy 7 database who does not
have a birth date?  I've tried the search but alas . . . .

 

Search

Look for whom?   Individual

Where to look? Birth Date

How to look? ???

What to look for? ???

 

I've tried most combinations of the latter two without success.  How do you
tell Legacy you want the individuals with a "null" birth date?

 

Thanks,

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[LegacyUG] Census vs Residence

[Dave Johnson]

Hello, great Legacy User's Group Helpers,

 

Before I learned that there was a Census Event, I put all occurrences in the
Census as Residence Events.  Is there a significant difference between using
the Census Event vs the Residence Event?

 

Thanks for your input.

 

Dave

 

 





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[LegacyUG] Finding media links

[Dave Keeney]

Is there a way to find all Legacy media linked to a particular directory?

 

When I "View the Current List of Multimedia" (customize-locations) I see a
couple of directories that I didn't expect.

Those directories have 100s of media in them.

I'm trying to find what media from those directories are linked somewhere in
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RE: [LegacyUG] Changing Pictures Directory Structure

[Dave Keeney]

Thank you again, that looks like what I was looking for.

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Of JLB
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 12:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing Pictures Directory Structure

Under Customize/Locations, click the box that says View Current List of 
Multimedia Locations.  Make the folders you want ahead of time so you 
have the places you want to move the present folders to.
-
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Dave Keeney wrote:
> Thanks JL but I don't think I explained it clearly enough.
>
> My Pictures file (in customize/locations) is C:\Legacy7\Pictures.
> I have several directories under that directory, e.g.
> C:\Legacy7\Pictures\Birth, C:\Legacy7\Pictures\Death, etc. 
> I want to move several of those directories out of legacy7\pictures\, but
> not all.
> So I want to end up with C:\Legacy7\Birth and C:\Legacy7\Death.
> And then all of my picture links changed from C:\Legacy7\Pictures\Birth to
> C:\Legacy7\Birth, etc.
> I don't think customize/locations will do that will it? At least I can't
see
> how it changes existing links.
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Changing Pictures Directory Structure

[Dave Keeney]

Thanks JL but I don't think I explained it clearly enough.

My Pictures file (in customize/locations) is C:\Legacy7\Pictures.
I have several directories under that directory, e.g.
C:\Legacy7\Pictures\Birth, C:\Legacy7\Pictures\Death, etc. 
I want to move several of those directories out of legacy7\pictures\, but
not all.
So I want to end up with C:\Legacy7\Birth and C:\Legacy7\Death.
And then all of my picture links changed from C:\Legacy7\Pictures\Birth to
C:\Legacy7\Birth, etc.
I don't think customize/locations will do that will it? At least I can't see
how it changes existing links.

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Of JLB
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 10:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing Pictures Directory Structure

Yes. Under Customize/Locations
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Dave Keeney wrote:
>
> If I change the directory structure where pictures are located is 
> there an easy way to reflect that in Legacy without changing every 
> link individually?
>
>  
>
> For instance if I have directories a\b\c\Birth and a\b\c\Death 
> containing Birth & Death certificate pictures and want to change them 
> to a\b\Birth and a\b\Death (moving up one level) directories can I 
> easily change that in all of my Legacy links?
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[LegacyUG] Changing Pictures Directory Structure

[Dave Keeney]

If I change the directory structure where pictures are located is there an
easy way to reflect that in Legacy without changing every link individually?

 

For instance if I have directories a\b\c\Birth and a\b\c\Death containing
Birth & Death certificate pictures and want to change them to a\b\Birth and
a\b\Death (moving up one level) directories can I easily change that in all
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(Fwd) Re: [LegacyUG] v.6 "usually called" (was Update 7.0.0.76

[Dave Naylor]

Whoops!!   I meant to say "build 76" !   Sorry.

On 6 Dec 2008  Mary Young wrote:

> On 12/5/08, Toni Sano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It is not something you turn off or on. Type the name in the
> >  given name box eg  Ann "Annie"
> >  where Ann is her name and Annie is her 'usually called' name.
> >  Then in the descendant book/narrative you will get
> >  ... she was usually called Annie...

> I'm not seeing this.

You're correct Mary.  You will not see that sentence because Dave 
Berdan only added it to Legacy 7 in build 78.  Previous versions and
builds do not incorporate that sentence even though the AKA feature 
is there.

If you really want to see that sentence you'll have to upgrade to the
latest build.
 
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-- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] v.6 "usually called" (was Update 7.0.0.76)

[Dave Naylor]

On 6 Dec 2008  Mary Young wrote:

> On 12/5/08, Toni Sano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It is not something you turn off or on. Type the name in the
> >  given name box eg  Ann "Annie"
> >  where Ann is her name and Annie is her 'usually called' name.
> >  Then in the descendant book/narrative you will get
> >  ... she was usually called Annie...

> I'm not seeing this.

You're correct Mary.  You will not see that sentence because Dave 
Berdan only added it to Legacy 7 in build 78.  Previous versions and 
builds do not incorporate that sentence even though the AKA feature 
is there.

If you really want to see that sentence you'll have to upgrade to the 
latest build.
 
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-- 
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[LegacyUG] Pedigree chart

[Dave Cox]

Is there anyway to realign the text in the pedigree charts in reports? The 
pedigree chart showing 5 generations has all the text correctly inside each 
persons box, but when I try the chart with 6 generations per page, the text for 
the 5th and 6th generations does not align with the boxes it is supposed to be 
in.
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[LegacyUG] pedigree chart

[Dave Cox]

I am a new user of Legacy. I tried to create a report with a pedigree chart 
with 6 generations per page and with an index. The text in the 5th generation 
displayed and printed 1 or 2 spaces higher than the box it was supposed to be 
in. The sixth generation text displayed and printed about 1 space lower than 
the box it was supposed to be in. Generations 1, 2, 3, and 4 all were perfect 
with the text for each persons box entirely within the box. Is there a way to 
correct this?  Also is there a way to view the archives of this user group on 
the web ? Perhaps this issue has come up before and checking the archives would 
eliminate discussing the problem over again.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Backup or file creation procedure when you want to have updated family files

[Dave Naylor]

On 1 Dec 2008  v pedersen wrote:

> Here is what I want to do:  I want to backup my family file every
> week to a new updated family file.  My first family file backup was
> named 20081120 (indicating to me the date I created it).  I'd like
> it to keep creating an updated family file on a weekly basis.

I have my computer set up to automatically do something very similar 
to this.

Instead of using Legacy, I find it better to have a batch file that 
runs weekly and copies the *.FDB database to a MMDD.FDB file.

Creating a batch file is quite simple and the date for the filename 
can be automatically generated.

Since batch file use is not really on topic for this list please get 
back to me privately if you'd like further details.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

[Dave Keeney]

No not an incredible number that can't be spotted immediately!
That is if you go to the trouble of having to open up the Source Page from
the Individual for everyone you're sourcing for every page. But why do that
if you know what you want to source and it's on the clipboard - just a lot
of extra work that doesn't need to be done.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jenny M Benson
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:31 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

Dave Keeney wrote
>Because when entering a lot of data from a book I do it a page at a 
>time. And it takes way too long to examine every person to see if they 
>already been source with another page in the book.

Heavens!  You must have an incredible number of Sources for every event 
if you can't spot one more or less immediately!!
>
>That's why on earth.
>
>Sorry I don't do it just like you do.

No apology needed!  You are, of course, free to do whatever you want, 
but it continues to seem wasteful, unnecessary and "bad database 
practice" to me.  But each to his own, of course.

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[LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

[Dave Keeney]

Update 7.0.0.76 fixed this issue for me.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Keeney
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 11:34 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

 

Citing a source multiple times (with different detail) to the same event
(e.g. birth) seems to act differently with version 7 than it did with prior
versions.

Have others noticed this or might I have missed a setting somewhere.

 

Example: I have SourceA (book) that gives birth information on two different
pages. I add the source with Detail - "page 1", and then again with Detail -
"page 2". It used to show up as two sources, one with detail "page 1" and
the other with detail "page 2". It now shows up as one source with detail
"page 1".

 

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RE: [LegacyUG] FYI about family group sheet on 7.0.0.76

[Dave Keeney]

Thank you Jennifer for the heads-up. This update seems to have resolved my
issue.

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Subject: [LegacyUG] FYI about family group sheet on 7.0.0.76

I just downloaded the newest update 7.0.0.76, and almost went crazy b/c
Legacy was combining all my sources for a single event into a single
footnote on a family group sheet. However, when I went to the Sources tab on
the Report Options screen, I noticed there was a new option called "If an
event has multiple citations, combine them into a single paragraph." There
is a checkbox next to the option that is defaulted with a checkmark.
Therefore, if you are like me, and do not like this combining of sources for
an event, then don't forget to uncheck the box. I thought something was
wrong at first b/c I wasn't used to this option. Just wanted to save
everyone a lot of grief and frustration.

Jennifer



  


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RE: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

[Dave Keeney]

Yes, EXCEPT I was using the new source writer templates.
I think that's the problem (difference).
I tried creating a new source without using the templates and it functions
the same as in the old version - except all Detail is omitted from the
reports (individual) now.

I may just have to wait for an update to see what happens. Thanks for trying
it. 

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Dennis M. Kowallek
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 5:31 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:37:10 -0800, "Dave Keeney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Correct that's not what I'm asking.
>The multiples sources look fine to me on reports.
>Blah, blah, blah, page 1.
>Ibid. page 2.
>
>At least in the previous version. I haven't looked at the reports in
version
>7 because I can't seem to get multiple entries in version 7.

I just downloaded V7 on an old PC. I installed it and copied my V6
database over. I then opened the database in V7 (which converted the
database to V7). I added a source to an event with detail = xxx. I then
added the same source to the same event with detail = yyy. No other
entries. Both citations were entered in the database. Does this sound
like what you did? If so, then there must be something else going on to
make it work different for you.

BTW, I was using old style sources.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

[Dave Keeney]

I guess they only 'fixed' it in the source writer templates. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Elizabeth Richardson
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 5:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

I think the programmers corrected an error. I believe what you are 
describing is not generally accepted as good citation format. (Did I 
actually say I might agree with Mills on something?)

Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Keeney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times


> Correct that's not what I'm asking.
> The multiples sources look fine to me on reports.
> Blah, blah, blah, page 1.
> Ibid. page 2.
>
> At least in the previous version. I haven't looked at the reports in 
> version
> 7 because I can't seem to get multiple entries in version 7.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Elizabeth Richardson
> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 1:45 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times
>
> So how does this multiple sourcing appear in a report? And, by the way, I
> can use the same source for different pieces of data (birth date, death 
> date
>
> for example) for one person and cite that source multiple times with
> different detail, but that certainly isn't what I'm understanding you to 
> be
> saying.
>
> Elizabeth
> researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dennis M. Kowallek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 12:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:42:52 +, Jenny M Benson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Why on earth would you cite the same Source twice?
>
> I just realized that I often do this. I might have a source of "Aunt
> Sally". She might give me someone's birthdate in a letter on one date,
> and the person's birthplace in a follow-up letter on a later date. I
> record this as the same source with 2 different sets of details.
>
> Since I don't have V7 installed at the moment I can't tell if this
> behavior is configurable (nor can I confirm it). But I certainly
> wouldn't appreciate it.
>
> -- 
>
> Dennis Kowallek
> Genealogy Website & Custom Programming
> http://consulting.kowallekfamily.com/
> 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

[Dave Keeney]

Thanks Barb, I just did some further testing and it appears only to happen
this way when using the new source writer templates.

I've sent an email to Support to see if this was their intention.

I'll just not use the source writer templates until I find out for sure.


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Weed
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 5:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

Dave: I understand what you are trying to say.  I too use a book to source
different information on various pages.
You are right, version 6 use to show, for example the birth source in
"Jefferson County History and Atlas" and the detail "page xx" and then the
death would be sourced as "Ibid, page yy."  This looks nice on reports.
Version 7 nolonger uses the "Ibid".   And it does repeat the first detail
used completely neglecting the following detail information. This has got to
be a serious bug!!
Barb W



- Original Message 
From: Dave Keeney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 6:37:10 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

Correct that's not what I'm asking.
The multiples sources look fine to me on reports.
Blah, blah, blah, page 1.
Ibid. page 2.

At least in the previous version. I haven't looked at the reports in version
7 because I can't seem to get multiple entries in version 7.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Elizabeth Richardson
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 1:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

So how does this multiple sourcing appear in a report? And, by the way, I 
can use the same source for different pieces of data (birth date, death date

for example) for one person and cite that source multiple times with 
different detail, but that certainly isn't what I'm understanding you to be 
saying.

Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis M. Kowallek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times


On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:42:52 +, Jenny M Benson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Why on earth would you cite the same Source twice?

I just realized that I often do this. I might have a source of "Aunt
Sally". She might give me someone's birthdate in a letter on one date,
and the person's birthplace in a follow-up letter on a later date. I
record this as the same source with 2 different sets of details.

Since I don't have V7 installed at the moment I can't tell if this
behavior is configurable (nor can I confirm it). But I certainly
wouldn't appreciate it.

-- 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

[Dave Keeney]

Correct that's not what I'm asking.
The multiples sources look fine to me on reports.
Blah, blah, blah, page 1.
Ibid. page 2.

At least in the previous version. I haven't looked at the reports in version
7 because I can't seem to get multiple entries in version 7.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Elizabeth Richardson
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 1:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

So how does this multiple sourcing appear in a report? And, by the way, I 
can use the same source for different pieces of data (birth date, death date

for example) for one person and cite that source multiple times with 
different detail, but that certainly isn't what I'm understanding you to be 
saying.

Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis M. Kowallek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times


On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:42:52 +, Jenny M Benson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Why on earth would you cite the same Source twice?

I just realized that I often do this. I might have a source of "Aunt
Sally". She might give me someone's birthdate in a letter on one date,
and the person's birthplace in a follow-up letter on a later date. I
record this as the same source with 2 different sets of details.

Since I don't have V7 installed at the moment I can't tell if this
behavior is configurable (nor can I confirm it). But I certainly
wouldn't appreciate it.

-- 

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http://consulting.kowallekfamily.com/



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RE: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

[Dave Keeney]

See my reply to Jenny. That's just not the way I've done it in the past.
My only question was if anyone noticed any differences between the two
versions.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Elizabeth Richardson
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 12:12 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

If you know you have two details in one source, why don't you just edit the 
detail and combine them in one citation?

Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message ----- 
From: Dave Keeney
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 10:33 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times


Citing a source multiple times (with different detail) to the same event 
(e.g. birth) seems to act differently with version 7 than it did with prior 
versions.
Have others noticed this or might I have missed a setting somewhere.

Example: I have SourceA (book) that gives birth information on two different

pages. I add the source with Detail - "page 1", and then again with Detail -

"page 2". It used to show up as two sources, one with detail "page 1" and 
the other with detail "page 2". It now shows up as one source with detail 
"page 1".

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RE: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

[Dave Keeney]

Because when entering a lot of data from a book I do it a page at a time.
And it takes way too long to examine every person to see if they already
been source with another page in the book.

That's why on earth.

Sorry I don't do it just like you do.

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Jenny M Benson
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 12:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

Dave Keeney wrote
>Citing a source multiple times (with different detail) to the same 
>event (e.g. birth) seems to act differently with version 7 than it did 
>with prior versions.
>
>Have others noticed this or might I have missed a setting somewhere.
>
> 
>
>Example: I have SourceA (book) that gives birth information on two 
>different pages. I add the source with Detail ? ?page 1?, and then 
>again with Detail ? ?page 2?. It used to show up as two sources, one 
>with detail ?page 1? and the other with detail ?page 2?. It now shows 
>up as one source with detail ?page 1?.

Why on earth would you cite the same Source twice?  Just cite the Source 
once and put *all* the relevant detail into Source Details - ie, both 
page numbers.
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[LegacyUG] Citing a Source multiple times

[Dave Keeney]

Citing a source multiple times (with different detail) to the same event
(e.g. birth) seems to act differently with version 7 than it did with prior
versions.

Have others noticed this or might I have missed a setting somewhere.

 

Example: I have SourceA (book) that gives birth information on two different
pages. I add the source with Detail - "page 1", and then again with Detail -
"page 2". It used to show up as two sources, one with detail "page 1" and
the other with detail "page 2". It now shows up as one source with detail
"page 1".

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate entries

[Dave Naylor]

On 26 Nov 2008  Claire Fuqua wrote:

> I am very concerned about this problem as I am consistently working
> with three databases, that, collectively, have almost 50,000 entries.
> I have been working on this family surname since 1990 and would be
> devastated if I were to lose the information. 

One thing that cannot be emphasized enough is . . . Backup, Backup, 
Backup!!

I have my computer set up to automatically make a backup every day 
when I first turn it on.  These backups have names containing the 
date so they don't overwrite each other.  If I'm doing some serious 
editing of my Legacy database I may also make further backups before 
and after the edits.

Having many backups permit you to go back to the point *before* a 
problem occurred.  Do realize that it may take a week or two (or even 
longer) for you to become aware of a database problem.  In the past 
we've heard from a few users that have restored their one-and-only 
backup only to discover that it also contained the contaminated data.

After a few months some of my old backups are deleted.  But I still 
retain one year-end backup of my genealogy database for each year and 
I have these going back 25 years!  I find it interesting to sometimes 
look at these old backups to see how my genealogy research has 
progressed through the years.

Now obviously you don't have to create this many backups like me, but 
I would recommend that you make a backup before and after any major 
changes to your database, and keep these backups until you are really 
sure that everything is as expected.

Cheers, -- Dave
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Re: [LegacyUG] Updating to latest 6.0

[Dave Naylor]

On 18 Nov 2008  Barbara Ford wrote:

> From the download site, it gave a link to "download full setup." I know
> that's what I will need on the new computer, but is this what I need
> just to update my version on the current computer? (I did check my
> current version, and it's not the latest upgrade.) 

Since you need to download the full setup you may as well use it for 
both computers.

It checks your computer's registry and if Legacy is already installed 
it will only install the needed files -- not that it really matters 
if it overwrites the others as it's only affecting the program files.

The only thing that can cause a glitch is when the registry is 
corrupted (usually due to a user moving their program files).  So 
just ensure that the Setup program is installing into the same 
location as your existing program.

Cheers, -- Dave N.
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RE: [LegacyUG] looking for cems

[Dave Naylor]

On 28 Oct 2008  ronald ferguson wrote:

> Dave, I take it you mean Burial *Addresses*, which is what this thread
> is about. The problem is, as JLB has drawn to our attention, this field
> cannot be searched. 

No, I was *not* referring to Addresses.  I was responding to the 
message from Syble (which was included in my message) where she said 
her dream was for Legacy to add an icon for use in attaching a photo 
of the tombstone marker.

Cheers, -- Dave N.

> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:24:41 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] looking for cems
> >
> > On 28 Oct 2008 Syble Glasscock wrote:
> >
> >> I have them in the burial place.  example: Hopewell Cemetery,
> Smith
> >> County, Texas. I know this is not "politically correct, but I
> like to
> >> see at a glance that I have the location of the cemetery, this
> is
> >> important to me, I'm sure it's not to all, and my dream is for
> Legacy
> >> to add an tiny icon for a photo of the tombstone marker.
> >
> > Is there a problem using the icon that's already there?
> >
> > Click on the + at the end of the Buried Location field, then
> Burial
> > Pictures.
> >
> > Cheers, -- Dave N



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Re: [LegacyUG] looking for cems

[Dave Naylor]

On 28 Oct 2008  Syble Glasscock wrote:

> I have them in the burial place.  example: Hopewell Cemetery, Smith
> County, Texas. I know this is not "politically correct, but I like to
> see at a glance that I have the location of the cemetery, this is
> important to me, I'm sure it's not to all, and my dream is for Legacy
> to add an tiny icon for a photo of the tombstone marker.

Is there a problem using the icon that's already there?

Click on the + at the end of the Buried Location field, then Burial
Pictures.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Standardisation Tips

[Dave Naylor]

On 12 Oct 2008  Lucky Belinfante wrote:

> My family tree contains 'ID' numbers and I would like to retain them.
> But every  I open any individual the tip reminds me that it is not
> usual to have these characters in names. 

Suggestion -- instead of having the ID numbers in the name fields, 
place them in the "User-ID" fields where they belong.

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[LegacyUG] Compare Two Files for Differences

[Dave Johnson]

 

I need some counsel from learned Legacy users.  My brother and I are
maintaining our family genealogical files using Legacy 7.  Each of us makes
entries into our individual Legacy file as we obtain new information.  Each
of us has about 6,600 individuals in our files.  We know that most of the
information is the same.  The question is:  How can we keep our files in
synch?  

 

Legacy has a method to "compare two files for duplicates" capability.  Is
there a way to compare two files for SAMENESS and highlight the differences?


 

How do others keep their files in synch with other family members?

 

I appreciate your counsel.

 

Dave

 

 






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RE: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database Standards - Round 2

[Dave Keeney]

I think it's appropriate here. I would like to know that answer too.
And if it's not asked/answered on this list a lot of people (who may want to
know) will miss the information.

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location Database Standards - Round 2

David Kleiman  wrote:
>  What I am trying to get answered is: "what GIS standards and metadata are
>  the folks at Millenium using in setting up their Geo Location Database
for
>  use with Legacy?"
Aren't you asking the wrong people? The is the Legacy Users Group.
 If indeed the Geo Location Database is controlled by "the folks at
Millenium" (or better yet, the folks at Millennia)  why not direct the
question to them? They're more likely to know the answer!
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RE: [LegacyUG] Extracting an entire family line

[Dave Johnson]

I tried the focus group without success.  Finally I followed JLB's
suggestion - sort of.  I unlinked the parts not wanted, then did a tree
search and tagged everyone in the tree.  Then I extracted everyone with that
tag.  Then I relinked the parts again.

What I learned is that the Focus Group Options are not satisfactory.  They
allow you to do either ancestors or direct line -- neither of which include
the distant relatives.

The problem is resolved.  Thanks for your help.

Dave

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD
SCHULTHIES
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:37 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Extracting an entire family line

You do not mention the word Focus Group, which is under 'View'. If you were
using it unsuccessfully, describe what happened, if yo hadn't found it yet,
ENJOY.
Rich in LA CA


--- On Tue, 9/23/08, Dave Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Dave Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Extracting an entire family line
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 9:01 AM
> I'm a relatively new user of Legacy 7 and am running the
> most current
> version.  One of my siblings wants a copy of part of my
> Legacy file.  So I
> tried to extract all of the direct line, as well as all
> aunts, uncles,
> cousins, spouses, multiple marriages, etc for my
> grandmother.
> 
> After many attempts with (I think) all combinations of
> extracts and search
> lists, I can find no method that will extract all direct
> line and distant
> relatives on any family line.  
> 
> Does Legacy not have this capability?  Do I have to extract
> each family
> separately?  Can someone tell me what I am missing?
> 
> Thank you for your response.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
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[LegacyUG] Extracting an entire family line

[Dave Johnson]

I'm a relatively new user of Legacy 7 and am running the most current
version.  One of my siblings wants a copy of part of my Legacy file.  So I
tried to extract all of the direct line, as well as all aunts, uncles,
cousins, spouses, multiple marriages, etc for my grandmother.

After many attempts with (I think) all combinations of extracts and search
lists, I can find no method that will extract all direct line and distant
relatives on any family line.  

Does Legacy not have this capability?  Do I have to extract each family
separately?  Can someone tell me what I am missing?

Thank you for your response.

Dave




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RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

[Dave Miller]

 

 Cathy,

 I take no notice of  'slots' of any kind so, Your examples would look like
this ;

 Denton, County Durham. 
 (England certainly does have counties but we don't say 'County Kent' or
'Kent County', just 'Kent'. As always there are exceptions, such as your
example Durham, which can be called 'County Durham').

 Obendred, Clun, Shropshire.
  (I haven't checked the existence of any of your place names).

 Wharton, Blyton, Lincolnshire.

 I don't use England at all. I only use the country if outside England.

 Just my way of doing things.
  Regards,
   Dave.




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Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

How are you entering English locations (what goes in City slot, County slot,
State slot, England)?

The following are some samples of what I am working with:

Denton (city), Durham (County? except England doesn't have counties?),
England

Obendred (I believe this is a sub-area of Clun?), Clun (city), Shropshire
(County or equivalent thereof?), England.  This one's from 1820.

Blyton (city), Lincolnshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England.  The
source stated Wharton, Lincolnshire, England and I believe I determined
"Wharton" was a sub-area of Blyton?)  This one's from 1460.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA








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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Ron and Tom

[Dave Naylor]

On 11 Sep 2008  Thomas Herson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ron Ferguson made a lot of insulting remarks about me. I'm reporting >
> him to Legacy right now.

Just how does one report someone to a genealogy program(me)?

I must have missed that option/feature.  Is it already in ver. 7 or 
is it on the wish list ?    :-))

Cheers, -- Dave N.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Possible Tagging enhancment

[Dave Naylor]

On 6 Sep 2008  Kathy Shiell-Stokes wrote:

> The idea is this: Having a toggle on off switch that could eliminate a
> specified tag number from being wiped out when doing a clear all tags.
> While doing it for only three or four out of the nine  would be ok,
> having a toggle on all tag numbers would be preferable.

I really dislike the idea.

It's far safer for users to clear tags one at a time or all at once.

Having some tags flagged so they don't clear means that some form of 
indication would then be required to show which tags would and would 
not be cleared.  The user would likely also need to check this 
setting very carefully before using it.  

I fail to see any advantage over clearing them individually 
especially when considering the potential for making errors.

Cheers, -- Dave N.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem Report Just Submitted to Legacy

[Dave Mellors]

Tom,
I presume from your recent posts that you have experience in IT. I 
haven't been on this list for a year or two so I look forward benefiting 
from your expertise on this list and you are right there are problems in 
Legacy that might be found by having more experienced Beta testers so if 
Millenia get you involved I am sure your experience there will be 
enormously appreciated by us all.


Considering my presumption that you work in IT I was initially surprised 
that you posted your last comment (totally understand the first one) but 
there again some of the most critical people I have met have been 
involved in the development of software (yes, I work for a software 
company) so maybe I shouldn't be surprised after all.


Anyway, reading your recent posts on the list I can see that you have a 
number of issues with Legacy and I think it's great that you are able to 
spend your time reporting them and helping the support staff recreate 
them. Considering how complex software can be, I am astonished at the 
level of support and development provided by Millenia for the 29.95 USD 
I paid. Having spent nearly 20 years in IT I consider that to be superb 
value for money.


You reporting your problems and then them getting fixed are going to 
improve the quality of Legacy so I'm kind of reluctant to mention it but 
are you aware that Millenia offer a 60 day money back guarantee?


Thanks, Dave

Thomas Herson wrote:

Bruce,

Thanks for confirming that. Doesn't it make you wonder how all that 
got through the beta testers and the Millenia tech people?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Run-time error 3167

[Dave Mellors]

and if that doesn't work you might want to try selecting the import from 
legacy file option in the file menu and import your old legacy file into 
a new one. This cured the 3167 error messages that I was getting.


Hope this helps, Dave

Syble Glasscock wrote:
I'm using Legacy v7, and I'm getting a Run-time error 3167 and then it 
just shuts down.  I've used v.5 & v.6 and never had problems, I 
checked and I have the latest update, any ideas on what is going on.  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Detail problem

[Dave Berdan]

Gail,

If you can reliably duplicate this situation, would you mind sending me a copy 
(privately) of your family file along with the steps to show the problem?  I 
will take a look at it and then erase your file when I am finished.  If there 
is a problem, I would like to get it fixed right away.

Thanks,
--
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  - Original Message - 
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  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:40 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Detail problem


  I am seeing a different source detail issue.  I am going through and dealing 
with a lot of census images that I have from online sources.  Using the source 
writer, I fill in the information that I have for each source and save it.  
When I choose it to use in sourcing a census event, it opens to the detail page 
and I fill in that information.  Because census images often have more than one 
person in my file, I use the copy and copy the entire census event, source and 
all.  I work my way through, recording this event on the appropriate people.  
Now, as I am adding other census events to the same people, I am looking at the 
sources for information on these people and finding that my detail information 
showing on the source screen is garbled; ie finding someone's name in the 
detail spot that has nothing to do with that person.  It's information that was 
used as an interview detail before I started working on these sources and after 
I upgraded to Legacy 7.When I edit the source detail, that information does 
not show up on the edit detail screen.  Is anyone else seeing this?  I have 
done a check/repair on the file and it has not helped.
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Re: [LegacyUG] File names format

[Dave Mellors]

The periods can be a problem with some software (particularly some of 
the older operating systems) but the dashes seem like a good solution. 
Your file name would be readable and the added benefit that search 
engines work well with dashes.


Unfortunately, it's too late for me. I have got into the habit using the 
letter casing through my programming and I think it's going to be a 
HardHabitToBreak ;)


Thanks, Dave

Bruce Jones wrote:
Is there any problem with using periods instead of underscores? i.e., 
Sam.Smith.letter.jpg

Or dashes? i.e., Sam-Smith-letter.jpg

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Dave Mellors <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Hi Cathy,
It is technically valid to use a space in a file name that will be
accessed on the Internet but it can sometimes be confusing for
some people and whilst some software will let you address the file
using a space others will require that you encode the spaces so
"Sam Smith Letter.jpg" becomes "Sam%20Smith%20Letter.jpg" or
"Sam+Smith +Letter.jpg" often works. Whether you have to encode
the space depends on all sorts of things and a space in the file
name could cause problems for some people wanting to save the file
onto their own computer. Another reason why you might not want to
use spaces is that the name could be confusing when written down
on paper.

Personally, I prefer to avoid using the underscore because you
will notice that some applications and web sites have links to
URLs (the unique address given to internet resources) underlined
and therefore the underscore isn't always clear. My preference is
to use the case of letters to help make the name more readable so
"Sam Smith Letter.jpg" becomes ""SamSmithLetter.jpg" but my
experience is that you will always get different opinions on this
and I haven't found a perfect answer. For example when I take
notes I write everything in uppercase so "SamSmithLetter.jpg"
becomes "SAMSMITHLETTER.JPG" but fortunately this will often still
work anyway (but not always!).

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Re: [LegacyUG] File names format

[Dave Mellors]

Hi Cathy,
It is technically valid to use a space in a file name that will be 
accessed on the Internet but it can sometimes be confusing for some 
people and whilst some software will let you address the file using a 
space others will require that you encode the spaces so "Sam Smith 
Letter.jpg" becomes "Sam%20Smith%20Letter.jpg" or "Sam+Smith 
+Letter.jpg" often works. Whether you have to encode the space depends 
on all sorts of things and a space in the file name could cause problems 
for some people wanting to save the file onto their own computer. 
Another reason why you might not want to use spaces is that the name 
could be confusing when written down on paper.


Personally, I prefer to avoid using the underscore because you will 
notice that some applications and web sites have links to URLs (the 
unique address given to internet resources) underlined and therefore the 
underscore isn't always clear. My preference is to use the case of 
letters to help make the name more readable so "Sam Smith Letter.jpg" 
becomes ""SamSmithLetter.jpg" but my experience is that you will always 
get different opinions on this and I haven't found a perfect answer. For 
example when I take notes I write everything in uppercase so 
"SamSmithLetter.jpg" becomes "SAMSMITHLETTER.JPG" but fortunately this 
will often still work anyway (but not always!).


Thanks, Dave

Cathy Vallevieni wrote:
Someone recently said to create file names with _ instead of spaces 
for posting to the internet (I believe).  I.E. "Sam_Smith_Letter.jpg"  
vs. "Sam Smith Letter.jpg"


What happens when a file name with spaces is uploaded to the Internet?

Is there any other application that requires _ instead of spaces?

Thanks.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Off Topic Posts - was GPS for Individual Graves locations

[Dave]

Read the list rules

 

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G Oliver
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off Topic Posts - was GPS for Individual Graves
locations

 

I for one will continue to answer any question asked (that I feel that I
have something to add) UNTIL the LIST OWNERS say stop. I believe that anyone
else is taking on an authority that they do not possess.
G.C. Oliver



On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Art,

I hate to prolong this even more but since you just had to respond   The
rules of this list aren't based on what you or a few others find
"interesting and useful".The rules are established by Legacy, are
perfectly clear and we all agreed to them when we subscribed.   The answer
is to abide by them and stay on topic - not let others wade thru the volumes
of posts and ignore the off topic ones.



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Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 3:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations

TK,

I have found the thread quite interesting and useful, for those posts that
do not interest me I find the delete key works just fine, so I don't spend
time reading what dosent interest me but still have available what does.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Off Topic Posts - was GPS for Individual Graves locations

[Dave]

Art,

I hate to prolong this even more but since you just had to respond   The
rules of this list aren't based on what you or a few others find
"interesting and useful".The rules are established by Legacy, are
perfectly clear and we all agreed to them when we subscribed.   The answer
is to abide by them and stay on topic - not let others wade thru the volumes
of posts and ignore the off topic ones.



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art Seddon
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 3:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations

TK,

I have found the thread quite interesting and useful, for those posts that 
do not interest me I find the delete key works just fine, so I don't spend 
time reading what dosent interest me but still have available what does.

Art Seddon





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RE: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations

[Dave]

My messages don't clog up the list any more than yours just did or the off
topic messages you and a few others seem to defend.But I am one of many
subscribers here who deserve that the rules be followed, period!   I keep
doing it (questioning off topic discussions) because people keep posting off
topic messages.   Follow the rules and none of this is necessary at all.

I'll be glad to discuss it offline more if you desire.
 

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Earnshaw
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 12:25 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations

Equally it is not up to you or anybody else to take on the role of telling
others what is and what isn't on topic. Especially when you keep doing it
and clogging up the list

Jack



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Sent: 03 August 2008 16:14
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations


Ron,

First, I think a message about the list rules is much more appropriate here
than a review of gps units.  

Yes, Legacy is certainly the one to be enforcing the list rules.   But
unfortunately they haven't been doing it very consistent lately.   And list
subscribers have been ignoring their warning when they do attempt it.   I
don't think Legacy's lack of list enforcement should be a signal to break
them all we want.  I don't enjoy posting about it but I also don't
appreciate others who feel they can totally ignore the rules and expect
everyone else to just ignore it.  I subscribed to this list for Legacy
support and nothing else (remember, just list the list rules state?).

Maybe if we all did more to stay on topic and keep others on topic we
wouldn't have this kind of discussion.

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RE: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations

[Dave]

TK, no one has a problem with discussions about recording GPS coordinates in
Legacy.  That's the purpose of the list.   But when it goes farther than
Legacy and starts doing such things as reviews of GPS units that it's
clearly drifted off topic.Let's all remember that this isn't a general
genealogy list.   It's a Legacy support list.  Please read the list rules
(as the Legacy staff has recommended many, many times).I subscribe to
many genealogy lists, some for a geographic area, some for a surname etc.
Some of them are general genealogy lists and welcome anything to do with
genealogy.   I don't expect to be able to post anything I want on any of
those lists and just have the other subscribers endure.   I take my question
or comment to the appropriate list where it's on topic.

 

It isn't up to any of us, including yourself, to determine what we want to
be on topic even if you find it interesting.   And the solution isn't for
the disinterested to "just click on to the next topic and stop reading this
thread". It's very clear in the list rules - Legacy and its add-ons
ONLY!   All we have to do is follow the rules and stop trying to make them
what we want them to be.  Having a little consideration for the other
subscribers would be a nice first step.

 

 

  _  

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TK Sand
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:55 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations

 

Obviously a lot of us, including myself, are finding this thread not only
on-topic but also interesting and useful. Can't those of you who are
disinterested in using the space that Legacy created for recording GPS
coordinates (hopefully the best and most accurate they can be) just click on
to the next topic and stop reading this thread? Thank you to those who are
responding to the many questions about this subject!

TK

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 6:57 AM, Ron Bernier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Ron,

With all due respect, the Legacy Staff has not been doing a very good job
lately with monitoring this list.  That is why there have been more and more
off topic posts on this list.  And there seems to be more and more regulars
who suddenly seem to think that all of the off topic posts are perfectly
acceptable.

I have the distinct feeling that the Legacy Staff is giving up on monitoring
the list for off topic posts, non text format posts, etc.  It seems to me
that they are admitting defeat and instead of addressing the problems they
are remaining silent.

Regards
Ron Bernier

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Sent: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:35:41 +0100
From: ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations

>
> Dave,
>
> And what has your email to do with Legacy and its add-ons? Legacy has its
own staff who keep an eye on this list. You are beginning to offend more
than the offenders!
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> Update your British Prime Ministers Timeline - Blogs
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations
> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:05:35 -0400
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>
>
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>
>
>
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>
>
>
> Syble, this is a list for the support of Legacy and its add-ons.
Reviews and recommendations of various gps units are off topic here.   I'm
sure there would be some who would be willing to offer suggestions offline
so everyone on the list doesn't have to read them all.   Or there are other
lists where it would be on topic.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> 
>
>
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Syble
Glasscock
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:09 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> I, too am wanting to enter the GPS for cemeteries/graves, as is very
common in the US, especially in rural cemeteries, there are no cemetery
offices or row and block numbers.  I appreciate the comments each of made on
this subject.  You mentioned an accurate GPS, I would appreciate suggestions
on a unit.  We have a few cemeteries that are small and in wooded areas, and
this would be very helpful for future researchers.
>
>
>
> Thanks

RE: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations

[Dave]

Ron,

First, I think a message about the list rules is much more appropriate here
than a review of gps units.  

Yes, Legacy is certainly the one to be enforcing the list rules.   But
unfortunately they haven't been doing it very consistent lately.   And list
subscribers have been ignoring their warning when they do attempt it.   I
don't think Legacy's lack of list enforcement should be a signal to break
them all we want.  I don't enjoy posting about it but I also don't
appreciate others who feel they can totally ignore the rules and expect
everyone else to just ignore it.  I subscribed to this list for Legacy
support and nothing else (remember, just list the list rules state?).

Maybe if we all did more to stay on topic and keep others on topic we
wouldn't have this kind of discussion.

Dave


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
ferguson
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 9:36 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations


Dave,

And what has your email to do with Legacy and its add-ons? Legacy has its
own staff who keep an eye on this list. You are beginning to offend more
than the offenders!


Ron Ferguson

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View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
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For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:05:35 -0400











Syble, this is a list for the support of Legacy and its add-ons.Reviews
and recommendations of various gps units are off topic here.   I'm sure
there would be some who would be willing to offer suggestions offline so
everyone on the list doesn't have to read them all.   Or there are other
lists where it would be on topic.
















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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Syble
Glasscock
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:09 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations










I, too am wanting to enter the GPS for cemeteries/graves, as is very common
in the US, especially in rural cemeteries, there are no cemetery offices or
row and block numbers.  I appreciate the comments each of made on this
subject.  You mentioned an accurate GPS, I would appreciate suggestions on a
unit.  We have a few cemeteries that are small and in wooded areas, and this
would be very helpful for future researchers.



Thanks,



Syble Glasscock

--- On Sun, 8/3/08, G Oliver  wrote:



From: G Oliver 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 12:05 AM




John,

I do something similar as I have many relatives in rural cemetery's in
Georgia.
In the Burial Location I list the city (if there is one), County, State,
country.
In a Cemetery Event/Fact I list the Cemetery name, address and GPS location
of the Cemetery in the Event address. If I think there may be a problem
finding the cemetery I list the diving directions to the Cemetery.
In the Cemetery Event/Fact notes for the person list the Actual GPS location
of the grave or group of graves. Graves within a 20-30 foot area would have
the same GPS location. This way the locations actually print on reports.

It's all well and good that we can zoom around on Virtual Earth and log the
GPS locations and addresses in Legacy but in my opinion the important thing
is to be able to print this information on reports to pass on to family
today and in the years to come. This is the reason I am purchased an
accurate GPS not just for graves but old home sites, the community center
where our family reunion was held for 50 years etc.

IMHO
GCO



On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:08 AM, John Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


In cemeteries with a simple rectangular format (such as an old church
cemetery and most US military cemeteries), the row and plot numbers may be
all you need.

Some rural cemeteries in the US have no particular order and thus no
row/plot designations.  For these locations I usually include driving
directions and pictures within the cemetery as well as a GPS location (if
I had a GPS when visiting that location).  Examples:
http://www.wizardanswers.com/personal/walkercemdirections.txt
http://www.wizardanswers.com/personal/images/raines-graves.jpg

There are many US cemeteries that try to project a "nicer" image with
names on the order of "[cityname] Memorial Park".  These tend to have
irregular areas within the larger overa

RE: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations

[Dave]

Syble, this is a list for the support of Legacy and its add-ons.Reviews
and recommendations of various gps units are off topic here.   I'm sure
there would be some who would be willing to offer suggestions offline so
everyone on the list doesn't have to read them all.   Or there are other
lists where it would be on topic.

 

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Syble
Glasscock
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:09 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations

 


I, too am wanting to enter the GPS for cemeteries/graves, as is very common
in the US, especially in rural cemeteries, there are no cemetery offices or
row and block numbers.  I appreciate the comments each of made on this
subject.  You mentioned an accurate GPS, I would appreciate suggestions on a
unit.  We have a few cemeteries that are small and in wooded areas, and this
would be very helpful for future researchers.

Thanks,

Syble Glasscock

--- On Sun, 8/3/08, G Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: G Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GPS for Individual Graves locations
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 12:05 AM

John,

I do something similar as I have many relatives in rural cemetery's in
Georgia.
In the Burial Location I list the city (if there is one), County, State,
country.
In a Cemetery Event/Fact I list the Cemetery name, address and GPS location
of the Cemetery in the Event address. If I think there may be a problem
finding the cemetery I list the diving directions to the Cemetery.
In the Cemetery Event/Fact notes for the person list the Actual GPS location
of the grave or group of graves. Graves within a 20-30 foot area would have
the same GPS location. This way the locations actually print on reports.

It's all well and good that we can zoom around on Virtual Earth and log the
GPS locations and addresses in Legacy but in my opinion the important thing
is to be able to print this information on reports to pass on to family
today and in the years to come. This is the reason I am purchased an
accurate GPS not just for graves but old home sites, the community center
where our family reunion was held for 50 years etc.

IMHO
GCO

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:08 AM, John Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

In cemeteries with a simple rectangular format (such as an old church
cemetery and most US military cemeteries), the row and plot numbers may be
all you need.

Some rural cemeteries in the US have no particular order and thus no
row/plot designations.  For these locations I usually include driving
directions and pictures within the cemetery as well as a GPS location (if
I had a GPS when visiting that location).  Examples:
http://www.wizardanswers.com/personal/walkercemdirections.txt
http://www.wizardanswers.com/personal/images/raines-graves.jpg

There are many US cemeteries that try to project a "nicer" image with
names on the order of "[cityname] Memorial Park".  These tend to have
irregular areas within the larger overall space, each area with its own
name.  They still use row/plot designations, but the rolling landscapes
and curving roads sometimes make following a row difficult.

My mother and maternal grandmother are buried in such a cemetery in
Tennessee and each grave location is in the general Notes (I haven't yet
entered locations for graves):
, Garden of Time, 139a - 2 -  N35.06.690  W89.52.392  Near
road.  Markers nearby: (left) Hill (Double) - (right) Graves (single -
2004)
, Garden of Time, 320b - 2  - N35.06.679  W89.52.361  Near
road, under tree.  Markers nearby (to right): Thompson (double) - Frank
Anderton - Madge Anderton

You cannot see either of these markers from the other location because of
the terrain.  Doing a search for the two plots as someone who had never
been to the site before took almost 30 minutes using the tiny map the
cemetery provides to visitors.

John


>
> I do not know about the rest of the world but in England graves do have an
> address eg "Plot 24/379" which gives the row and number, similar to
> streets and house. In some cemeteries which I know the row number, at
> least, is on the reverse of the grave stone. They can also be obtained
> from the cemetery office.
>
>
> Ron Ferguson






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RE: [LegacyUG] GPS lat and long format

[Dave]

Well, I disagree.   Using your logic you can take anything to do with Legacy
and keep going and going and going.  Before long anything can be tied back
to Legacy.   I think the list rules are perfectly clear.And I fail to
understand why some users think they have the right to stretch them to meet
their own wishes.

The thread started out about entering longitude and latitude into Legacy.
That person got their question answered and said so.   But others just
couldn’t stop. One of them even mentioned that it had "reached the end of
relevance to Legacy".  They were right.   Below are some quotes after it
strayed.   They sure don't seem to have anything to do with Legacy and its
add-ons to me.

BTW, nothing keeps people from chatting offline about anything they want to.
But why do all of the subscribers have to read it?







Ahem! If you had never seen the rocky southeast Alaska coastline, perhaps
you wouldn't make such an ignorant comment. The coastlines do not change
here, at least not without an earthquake, and I'm not walking on sand, which
we do not have, but rather a paved road. Trust me, it isn't
eroding/changing.

That's neither here nor there...but I do know that GPS units vary in quality
and some of the lesser units are not nearly as accurate as one would wish.
The higher end GPS units are much more accurate...  and the plotting has a
great deal to do with it.

Ahem! By definition, maritime coastlines change on each change of tide. 
Do you think you're immune from coastal erosion? :-)

The GPS system has a potential maximum accuracy of 30cm (1 foot). 
However, that signal, the P(Y) channel, is encrypted and the encryption code
changes daily so it is only available to the miltary and specific government
users.  Typical civilian GPS accuracy is within 15 meters (50 feet),
depending on a half-dozen factors affecting the satellite signal.

There are high accuracy GPS units for surveying and similar uses that
receive multiple satellite frequencies and compute the delay difference
between the frequencies - obviously bigger and much more expensive than the
handheld units.

I think we've reached the end of relevance to Legacy...
*
I can walk around the inside lane of a 400 meter track and it will show me
wandering all over the place - including outside lanes and/or infield. Even
when it shows my accurate path, it will measure quite a bit differently from
one lap to the next - and never 400 meters (sometimes off by as much as 10
meters)! Sorry, this is definitely off topic, but did want to comment on the
frequent inaccuracy of GPS.
*

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:13 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GPS lat and long format

I think it has everything to do with Legacy when people can't understand why
their coordinates for a cemetery take them to the middle of a river in a
program they expect to correctly plot with GPS.  Some understanding of the
technology is necessary before some people can understand what Legacy is
trying to do with Visual Earth and GPS in our genealogy software and on our
computers so that Legacy (Millenia) doesn't take all the blame when it fails
to work correctly.
Paul



Dave wrote: 
That's fine as long as it's related to the use of Legacy and its add-on's
(as the list rules clearly state).   But most of us didn't come here to read
about how gps technology works or reviews of the accuracy using different
gps units.   And that's where the thread had drifted a few times.




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RE: [LegacyUG] GPS lat and long format

[Dave]

That's fine as long as it's related to the use of Legacy and its add-on's
(as the list rules clearly state).   But most of us didn't come here to read
about how gps technology works or reviews of the accuracy using different
gps units.   And that's where the thread had drifted a few times.



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Cramer
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 12:21 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GPS lat and long format

We are bouncing between my Legacy location list, Virtual Earth, and 
Google Earth, visually finding cemeteries, getting good latitude and 
longitude, deciding where to put push pins, and at the same time 
cleaning up long form and short form Legacy locations, etc.  It is 
disconcerting when VE sometimes zooms off to Algeria when we are looking 
for Coal Town Cemetery in Purvis, MS, but, other than the occasional 
problems finding the right town and county, it works marvelously well.  
So we are happy with our progress.  It is well worth the effort.

Pauline in Seattle


RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:
> I disagree. The program Virtual Earth is a component
> of the Legacy program now, and so its accuracy, and
> possible work arounds, and/or errors is valid on this
> User Group. I hope it doesn't become a constant deluge
> of messages every day, but as genealogists we deal in
> accuracy.
> Rich in LA CA
> PS. It may improve with updates.
>
> --- Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Unless it's about entering it in Legacy, isn't this
>> thread getting pretty
>> far off topic?





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RE: [LegacyUG] GPS lat and long format

[Dave]

Unless it's about entering it in Legacy, isn't this thread getting pretty
far off topic?

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 6:33 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GPS lat and long format

 

That's neither here nor there...but I do know that GPS units vary in quality
and some of the lesser units are not nearly as accurate as one would wish.
The higher end GPS units are much more accurate...  and the plotting has a
great deal to do with it.
Paul

 



Elizabeth Richardson wrote: 

Ahem! If you had never seen the rocky southeast Alaska coastline, perhaps
you wouldn't make such an ignorant comment. The coastlines do not change
here, at least not without an earthquake, and I'm not walking on sand, which
we do not have, but rather a paved road. Trust me, it isn't
eroding/changing. 

Elizabeth 
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson 

- Original Message - From: "Mike Fry"  
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To:  
 
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GPS lat and long format 





Elizabeth Richardson wrote: 



GPS is not all that accurate anyway. I live in a maritime community, where
the shoreline hasn't changed, and I cannot tell you how often I walk on
water. ;) 


Ahem! By definition, maritime coastlines change on each change of tide. Do
you think you're immune from coastal erosion? :-) 

-- 
Regards, 
Mike Fry 
Johannesburg. 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Tree list problem

[Dave Naylor]

On 24 Jul 2008  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Legacy 7 has a tool called "Tree Finder" (accessed from the View menu)
> that I think is designed to show the individual at the top of the
> various family trees.  But it apparently does so by looking for the
> individual with the smallest RIN in a tree. 

The Tree Finder is not designed to show the individual at the top of 
the tree.  It is designed to identify the separate trees in a family 
file and to identify each one by the lowest RIN used in it.  You also 
have to "Refresh" it every time otherwise it displays an old listing.

A tree may have more than one ancestral line so how could Legacy 
determine which one of the possible many lines you'd want the 
earliest ancestor for?

> Is there another way to find the earliest individual in a tree? 

Lots of them.  One way is to tag all the individuals of a tree 
(Entire Tree) then generate (Print) a CSV of them with birthdates 
using the Name List (with Search button for the Tag number).  Open 
the CSV file in your spreadsheet program and sort it on the birthdate 
column.

Note: you may need to change the spreadsheet's birthdate column to 
"Text" otherwise it could mess up the date display.  Depending on 
your date format you may also need to copy the birthdate column to a 
YYYYMMDD one to get it to sort correctly.

Cheers, -- Dave N.
-- 
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[LegacyUG] Digital Image Naming Standards

[Dave Johnson]

I would love to have some examples of Digital Naming Standards from which to
choose.  My digital image has grown rapidly.  Each of my 8 primarily family
lines has its own file folder but within each folder.  Is there a preferable
way to name each digital image -- such as first name, last name, or last
name, first name, etc.

Thanks for your suggestions.

Dave




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RE: [LegacyUG] 29 February 1894 - What's wrong with this date?

[Dave Johnson]

According to the Legacy calendar, 1892 and 1896 are leap years but no 1894.

 

Dave

 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:52 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] 29 February 1894 - What's wrong with this date?

 

I don't know if this is a bug or not.  I have  a date for something or other
that is "29 Feb 1894".

To me, that sure looks like a valid date.  1894 should have been a leap
year.

Unless of course it wasn't.  But if not, then I don't know why.

And if the date is correct, then Legacy 7 is having a problem with it - it
flags it as a bad date Every single time.



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Take care,
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If not now, when? 

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Re: [LegacyUG] 29 February 1894 - What's wrong with this date?

[Dave Naylor]

On 22 Jul 2008  Melody B wrote:

> I don't know if this is a bug or not.  I have  a date for something
> or other that is "29 Feb 1894".
> To me, that sure looks like a valid date.  1894 should have been a
> leap year.

Why should it have?  94 is not divisible by 4 and so is *not* a leap 
year.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic - sorry

[Dave]

Denis responded offline because it was VERY off topic.   Why did you forward
it back to the list?

 

 

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic - sorry

 

Thunderbird bears little resemblance to Eudora.

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Denis Xenos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Eudora's software was given to Mozilla Firefox and has been reissued
as Mozilla Thunderbird. I suggest upgrading.

Deal with Mozilla Thunderbird user group.

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Peter Bottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Is anyone out there able and willing to help me with the email program
> EUDORA?
>
> I am using the Australian ISP Bigpond.
>
> My problem is that I have lost my incoming and outgoing mail settings, and
> neither Eudora nor Bigpond seem able to help.
>
> Suggestions as to these settings and/or other suggestions  will be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks for any help.
> Peter
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RE: [LegacyUG] Identifying a source

[Dave]

And 12 messages after Sherry/Support warned about staying on topic we get
another thread started that has absolutely nothing to do with Legacy.   Are
the list rules really that hard to understand?



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Subject: [LegacyUG] Identifying a source

I have an old certified copy of a birth certificate that the County Clerk 
used a now obsolete form of copying that produced a negative image. I have 
manipulated the scanned image to make a positive image, but I have forgotten

what the original negative image/process was called.

I would like to identify what the proper name of the piece of paper was 
called. The certified copy was produced in 1958.

Anybodies memory that good?

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RE: [LegacyUG] vital records

[Dave]

Sorry but I don't think that's the way the list rules work.   I don't think
they're optional and up to you to decide when to ignore them. And it
isn't fair to those who are here for Legacy only (as the rules clearly
state).



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Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:19 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] vital records

You don't have to read the thread (or reply) if you are not interested 
in it.

Larry

Dave wrote:
> If this has nothing to do with Legacy, why is it being discussed here?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J B Coats
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:55 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] vital records
>
> No
>
> The only thing VitaCheck does is complete the application paperwork for 
> YOU.
>
> When the state [CA for example] receives it, there is no difference that
if 
> you prepared the application and mailed it directly to the state
>
> My opinion, sure cost a lot more that a little time and a postage 
> stamp...
>
>
>  till later _J_B_  =
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Maynard, Yvette M Civ USAF ACC ACC A4QE/TAH" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, 11 July, 2008 1:21 PM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] vital records
>
>
> Has anyone ordered vital records through Vitalchek Express?  If so, is
> it quicker than ordering directly through the state where the record is
> located?
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] vital records

[Dave]

If this has nothing to do with Legacy, why is it being discussed here?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J B Coats
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:55 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] vital records

No

The only thing VitaCheck does is complete the application paperwork for 
YOU.

When the state [CA for example] receives it, there is no difference that if 
you prepared the application and mailed it directly to the state

My opinion, sure cost a lot more that a little time and a postage 
stamp...


 till later _J_B_  =
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Subject: [LegacyUG] vital records


Has anyone ordered vital records through Vitalchek Express?  If so, is
it quicker than ordering directly through the state where the record is
located?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Event order

[Dave Naylor]

On 11 Jul 2008  Bill wrote:

> Dave Naylor Wrote;
> >If you can come up with program code that will sort records
> > by date and still keep records with blank dates in their
> > "correct" place then you'll make a fortune!   ;-))
> > 
> > Cheers, -- Dave
> 
> TMG already has this. They have a place to enter a sort date. 

TMG does not have this!!  Having a place to enter a sort date is not 
the same as having a blank date!  Let's not make it that easy.  :-))

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Re: [LegacyUG] Event order

[Dave Naylor]

On 11 Jul 2008  Jane Sarles wrote:

> I want each person's events always to be listed in chronological order.
> I know that I can do that by hitting "options" and choosing "sort by
> date", but can't I set the program to do it without having to change it
> every time.  Why on earth would one want the order to be in order of
> input?

They probably wouldn't.  But then, as with children, if an entry does 
*not* have a date and the user has carefully placed it into the 
correct order, they wouldn't want an automatic sort to change that 
order.

If you can come up with program code that will sort records by date 
and still keep records with blank dates in their "correct" place then 
you'll make a fortune!   ;-))

Cheers, -- Dave
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[LegacyUG] "L" column of Geo Location List

[Dave Keeney]

What is the meaning of "L" and "V" in the L column of the Geo Location list?

I did check the help file but couldn't find it.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Where to source a burial card?

[Dave Berdan]

This has been fixed and will be in the next update...

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Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:40 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Where to source a burial card?



Paul:

I agree with Dede that the Artifacts > Privately held template is the best
fit for funeral cards.  Do be aware, however, that there seems to be a bug
related to this template and neither details nor comments print on
Descendant Book Reports right now.  I've reported the problem and expect
that when it's corrected the details will show properly.

Kirsten

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Where to source a burial card?


I have been given some small cards by my grandmother that are just 
memorial

cards given out at the time of somebody's death.  One of them is for my
great grandfather who died in 1931.  The card gives his name, date of 
death,

age and the name of the cemetery where he was interred.  There are no
'publication' facts as these cards were obviously only given to friends &
family, so which of the new source templates should I use?

Thanks

Paul







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[LegacyUG] Geo Coding "of location"

[Dave Keeney]

Is there any easy way to geo code locations that contain "Of ."?

I know it codes ", , , Belgium" correctly but not with the "Of" included.
I'd like to geo code it as ", , , Belgium".

The only way I've found is to copy longitude of the ", , , Belgium" entry,
Close it, find the "Of" version, Edit, Paste, Close that and do the same for
the Latitude. Or Write the long/lat down and re-key.

 

And Belgium above is just an example. I've got lots of "Of locations".





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[LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

[Dave Keeney]

Don't worry David there are probably lots of 'extreme splitter' lurkers out
here.
Count me in.

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the
question!

On 5th July 2008, Mary Young wrote:
>I might lump new stuff using the Templates in v.7.

Oh no, Mary.  Does this mean you are deserting the 'extreme splitters club'.
Only me and Ward Walker left!! :-)

Best wishes

David

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Organist & Choirmaster, Polesworth Abbey
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the
question!


On 7/4/08, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>  So if you found a publication that mentioned 2 of your relatives on page
6,
> one on page 150 and 3 on page 175 would you have 3 different Master
Sources
> for that one issue of that publication?
Alas mine were all poor folk, so this hasn't happened yet!
I would probably grit my teeth and use one Master Source, then Detail.
As I already said, my extreme splitting of Census occurs for one year
(1881).
I started this many years and 4 family history programs ago. It would
be a huge job to change retrospectively. I might lump new stuff using
the Templates in v.7.
>  I have 18 people who are mentioned in the London Gazette, several of them
> in several different issues of the Gazette.  I already have over 220
Sources
> without splitting them up into 5, 10, 20 or 30 separate listings!
it's no more difficult to access 500 or 5,000 Sources than 220 - if
they're sensibly named.
Mary Young






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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant report/Marriage event

[Dave Naylor]

On 4 Jul 2008  Marie Connelly wrote:

> It is:  He has conflicting marriage information ofthen the date
> and place of marriage. 
> Can anyone else replicate this so I can find out what's causing this
> sentence to appear?

Do you have an Alt Married event for either of the couple or for the 
marriage itself?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Latest update causes freezing in Legacy

[Dave Berdan]

Fixed. Next update...  soon.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Latest update causes freezing in Legacy


I downloaded the latest update and since then Legacy seems to have 
developed

a bug.  Before the update, the search for missing sources would be able to
(after creating the list) successfully give me a Preview.  Since the 
update,

it creates the list fine, but when I click on Print (still fine) and then
Preview, Legacy freezes and needs to be forcibly closed.

I know this worked before the update.

Jeff





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RE: [LegacyUG] Removing a balloon from the map?

[Dave Naylor]

On 1 Jul 2008  Jack Earnshaw wrote:

> Remembering that, at present, this is not reversible! Once you've
> checked "do not auto-geo code" that remains set even if you try to
> remove it! 

Of course it's reversible!

Clicking on "Geo-code current location again"  turns the do not geo-
code off.

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Re: [LegacyUG] New topic

[Dave Naylor]

On 1 Jul 2008  Robert57P via Gmail wrote:

> What e-mail programs allow for threads, even if the board does not?
> Are any of them free or cheap?  Many people on this list have asked
> about this option (at least in part) for this LUG - if a reader on the
> PC  will do that trick, it could help a lot of us. 

See this web page . . . 

http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/windows_threading.html

This mailing list's archives uses threading when it displays messages 
but it's apparently doing it wrong as it shows all replies to the 
original message and no replies to other replies -- only one level.

It does however show that this "New topic" subject is part of the 
"Books with more than 2 authors" thread even though the subject was 
changed.  It also shows that the subjects "Strange characters after 
names" and "Unknown given or surnames" were also hijacked from this 
same thread.

Actually by scanning down through Legacy's user group archive it's 
possible to identify the hijackers!  :-))

RootsWeb's archives displays threading correctly.  For an example of 
how it should look go to RootsWeb's Legacy archive for January 2008 
at . . . 

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/LEGACY/2008-01

where it's immediately apparent, by hierarchy, which message was 
being replied to.

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