Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Thank you so much Michele! This is how I have started doing it as well! I may very well contact you off list if that is ok. Looks as if we do a lot of things similar! And I am sure I will have more questions for you! - Original Message - From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages I used to be a die hard lumper. I only had one source for the 1900 census (for example). However, with the new Sourcewriter I have been forced to become a splitter :) :) :) Here is what my source list looks like... Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1880 Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1900 Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1910 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1850 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 (slave) Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1870 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 (mortality) Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1840 Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1850 Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1860 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 (slave) Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1860 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1870 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1790 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1800 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1810 This of course is just a small snippet. I have them organized this way so that I can find my master source quickly. - Original Message - From: tamieh tam...@sfcn.org To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Michele --- I have a question for you. I know this has been addressed on this list before -- so sorry for asking again. But I too transcribe census records as you do. How do you list them in your master source list? Do you list each census seperately or put all the 1900 Census records under a 1900 census listing? Thanks for your input! Tamie - Original Message - From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I really pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship etc) Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)... Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born in GA Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS Or a later census (1930)... Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, logging [2nd word unreadable] Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English I copy the event and add it to each person listed. When you run a report it will show the census for every year in order and it makes for a nice progression of what happened in their life. They start out living with their parents, they get married and have a family of their own, and then sometimes they move in with their kids in their later life. You don't see it as well if you have just attached a copy (link) of the census. It does take more time but I think it is worth the effort. Another thing, as I am going back through looking at stuff, it is a lot esier looking at transcriptions than it is to have to look at the original image again and have to re-analyze it. Or course if there is ever a question I can pull the census page up easily. Michele
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Email me anytime :) cranberryf...@charter.net michele - Original Message - From: tamieh tam...@sfcn.org To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Thank you so much Michele! This is how I have started doing it as well! I may very well contact you off list if that is ok. Looks as if we do a lot of things similar! And I am sure I will have more questions for you! - Original Message - From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages I used to be a die hard lumper. I only had one source for the 1900 census (for example). However, with the new Sourcewriter I have been forced to become a splitter :) :) :) Here is what my source list looks like... Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1880 Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1900 Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1910 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1850 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 (slave) Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1870 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 (mortality) Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1840 Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1850 Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1860 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 (slave) Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1860 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1870 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1790 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1800 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1810 This of course is just a small snippet. I have them organized this way so that I can find my master source quickly. - Original Message - From: tamieh tam...@sfcn.org To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Michele --- I have a question for you. I know this has been addressed on this list before -- so sorry for asking again. But I too transcribe census records as you do. How do you list them in your master source list? Do you list each census seperately or put all the 1900 Census records under a 1900 census listing? Thanks for your input! Tamie - Original Message - From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I really pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship etc) Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)... Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born in GA Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS Or a later census (1930)... Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, logging [2nd word unreadable] Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English I copy the event and add it to each person listed. When you run a report it will show the census for every year in order and it makes for a nice progression of what happened in their life. They start out living with their parents, they get married and have a family of their own, and then sometimes they move in with their kids in their later life. You don't see it as well if you have just attached a copy (link) of the census. It does take more time but I think it is worth the effort. Another thing, as I am going back
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
I used to be a die hard lumper. I only had one source for the 1900 census (for example). However, with the new Sourcewriter I have been forced to become a splitter :) :) :) Here is what my source list looks like... Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1880 Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1900 Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1910 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1850 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 (slave) Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1870 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 (mortality) Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1840 Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1850 Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1860 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 (slave) Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1860 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1870 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1790 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1800 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1810 This of course is just a small snippet. I have them organized this way so that I can find my master source quickly. - Original Message - From: tamieh tam...@sfcn.org To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Michele --- I have a question for you. I know this has been addressed on this list before -- so sorry for asking again. But I too transcribe census records as you do. How do you list them in your master source list? Do you list each census seperately or put all the 1900 Census records under a 1900 census listing? Thanks for your input! Tamie - Original Message - From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I really pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship etc) Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)... Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born in GA Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS Or a later census (1930)... Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, logging [2nd word unreadable] Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English I copy the event and add it to each person listed. When you run a report it will show the census for every year in order and it makes for a nice progression of what happened in their life. They start out living with their parents, they get married and have a family of their own, and then sometimes they move in with their kids in their later life. You don't see it as well if you have just attached a copy (link) of the census. It does take more time but I think it is worth the effort. Another thing, as I am going back through looking at stuff, it is a lot esier looking at transcriptions than it is to have to look at the original image again and have to re-analyze it. Or course if there is ever a question I can pull the census page up easily. Michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Michele, I can see that, As I only publish on my web pages on which I do not wish to have census images, I just wondered why transcribe. Although I have no intention of publishing a book, I very much doubt if I would wish to include transcripts
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Mine is similar to Michele's, except I organize them geographically: Missouri, Howell - census 1900 (Ancestry) Missouri, Howell - census 1910 (Ancestry) Missouri, Howell - census 1920 (Ancestry) And so on. One could have several sources for the same census, in which case it would look like this: Missouri, Howell - census 1880 (Ancestry) Missouri, Howell - census 1880 (HeritageQuest) Missouri, Howell - census 1880 (NARA microfilm) Because the source name is only for my use, I do not add the detail about Federal census in the name. I only add that distinction if it is NOT a federal census: Kansas, Rawlins - census 1875, state (Ancestry) It is very much a matter of personal preference and ease. I like to see all of my sources for one county grouped together, rather than all of my census grouped together. Janis Walker Gilmore On 2/16/09 10:09 AM, Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net wrote: I used to be a die hard lumper. I only had one source for the 1900 census (for example). However, with the new Sourcewriter I have been forced to become a splitter :) :) :) Here is what my source list looks like... Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1880 Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1900 Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1910 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1850 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Why have you been forced to become a splitter? I'm a lumper (for Censuses, at least) and have just one Master Source for each US census year and I use the Sourcewriter. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages I used to be a die hard lumper. I only had one source for the 1900 census (for example). However, with the new Sourcewriter I have been forced to become a splitter :) :) :) Here is what my source list looks like... Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1880 Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1900 Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1910 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1850 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 (slave) Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1870 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 (mortality) Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1840 Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1850 Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1860 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 (slave) Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1860 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1870 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1790 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1800 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1810 This of course is just a small snippet. I have them organized this way so that I can find my master source quickly. - Original Message - From: tamieh tam...@sfcn.org To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Michele --- I have a question for you. I know this has been addressed on this list before -- so sorry for asking again. But I too transcribe census records as you do. How do you list them in your master source list? Do you list each census seperately or put all the 1900 Census records under a 1900 census listing? Thanks for your input! Tamie - Original Message - From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I really pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship etc) Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)... Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born in GA Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS Or a later census (1930)... Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, logging [2nd word unreadable] Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English I copy the event and add it to each person listed. When you run a report it will show the census for every year in order and it makes for a nice progression of what happened in their life. They start out living with their parents, they get married and have a family of their own, and then sometimes they move in with their kids in their later life. You don't see it as well if you have just attached a copy (link) of the census. It does take more time but I think it is worth the effort. Another thing, as I am going back through looking at stuff, it is a lot esier looking at transcriptions than it is to have to look at the original image again and have to re-analyze it. Or course if there is ever a question I can pull the census page up easily. Michele
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages - Tracking Individuals
In adding a census event for a person, I mention in the notes section of a person that another unrelated person was living with them. I'll also add a add new unlinked individual with their information. Then I can always look under View Tree Finder and see what the unlinked trees are in my database in case I forgot that I have these unlinked people sitting in the database. At 08:15 AM 2/14/2009, you wrote: I, too, track individuals through census pages, and would appreciate knowing how others keep track of other people, who at one time may not be recognized as related, but after further work, end up being so. For instance - a person may be a boarder at a particular residence, in any given census year, and I note, in the source, with whom he/she is living, but see no way to keep track of these extra people. I just recently discovered a marriage certificate for a person, went searching for the family in census records and found that I had reference to them in a census source, recorded years earlier. The boarder living with the family was actually a niece - daughter of the wife's sister, for whom I had adequate information in a distant state. Putting the residing with in an event field would seem to clutter up a report. Any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated. Judy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Because it asks for the county and state? michele - Original Message - From: John S. Adams oldbr...@hotmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Why have you been forced to become a splitter? I'm a lumper (for Censuses, at least) and have just one Master Source for each US census year and I use the Sourcewriter. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages I used to be a die hard lumper. I only had one source for the 1900 census (for example). However, with the new Sourcewriter I have been forced to become a splitter :) :) :) Here is what my source list looks like... Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1880 Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1900 Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1910 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1850 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 (slave) Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1870 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 (mortality) Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1840 Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1850 Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1860 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 (slave) Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1860 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1870 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1790 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1800 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1810 This of course is just a small snippet. I have them organized this way so that I can find my master source quickly. - Original Message - From: tamieh tam...@sfcn.org To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Michele --- I have a question for you. I know this has been addressed on this list before -- so sorry for asking again. But I too transcribe census records as you do. How do you list them in your master source list? Do you list each census seperately or put all the 1900 Census records under a 1900 census listing? Thanks for your input! Tamie - Original Message - From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I really pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship etc) Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)... Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born in GA Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS Or a later census (1930)... Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, logging [2nd word unreadable] Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English I copy the event and add it to each person listed. When you run a report it will show the census for every year in order and it makes for a nice progression of what happened in their life. They start out living with their parents, they get married and have a family of their own, and then sometimes they move in with their kids in their later life. You don't see it as well if you have just attached a copy (link) of the census. It does take more time but I think it is worth the effort. Another thing, as I am going
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
I don't enter county and state in the Master source--leave'em blank. In the Detail Source, where it asks for Jurisdiction City (which I think is incorrect--cities don't have jurisdiction over census operations), I enter City/Township/County. Works great. You have to be flexible with Sourcewriter. Don't let it intimidate you. Play around with it to see how entering different data in the available fields will affect the output. Many ways to skin a cat (or template). John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 5:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Because it asks for the county and state? michele - Original Message - From: John S. Adams oldbr...@hotmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Why have you been forced to become a splitter? I'm a lumper (for Censuses, at least) and have just one Master Source for each US census year and I use the Sourcewriter. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages I used to be a die hard lumper. I only had one source for the 1900 census (for example). However, with the new Sourcewriter I have been forced to become a splitter :) :) :) Here is what my source list looks like... Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1880 Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1900 Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1910 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1850 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 (slave) Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1870 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 (mortality) Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1840 Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1850 Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1860 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 (slave) Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1860 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1870 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1790 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1800 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1810 This of course is just a small snippet. I have them organized this way so that I can find my master source quickly. - Original Message - From: tamieh tam...@sfcn.org To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Michele --- I have a question for you. I know this has been addressed on this list before -- so sorry for asking again. But I too transcribe census records as you do. How do you list them in your master source list? Do you list each census seperately or put all the 1900 Census records under a 1900 census listing? Thanks for your input! Tamie - Original Message - From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I really pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship etc) Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)... Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born in GA Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS Or a later census (1930)... Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, logging [2nd word unreadable] Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born
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But it didn't refuse to work if empty. Rich in LA CA --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net wrote: From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 5:03 PM Because it asks for the county and state? michele - Original Message - From: John S. Adams oldbr...@hotmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Why have you been forced to become a splitter? I'm a lumper (for Censuses, at least) and have just one Master Source for each US census year and I use the Sourcewriter. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages I used to be a die hard lumper. I only had one source for the 1900 census (for example). However, with the new Sourcewriter I have been forced to become a splitter :) :) :) Here is what my source list looks like... Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1880 Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1900 Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1910 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1850 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 (slave) Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1870 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 (mortality) Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1840 Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1850 Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1860 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 (slave) Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1860 Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1870 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1790 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1800 Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1810 This of course is just a small snippet. I have them organized this way so that I can find my master source quickly. - Original Message - From: tamieh tam...@sfcn.org To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Michele --- I have a question for you. I know this has been addressed on this list before -- so sorry for asking again. But I too transcribe census records as you do. How do you list them in your master source list? Do you list each census seperately or put all the 1900 Census records under a 1900 census listing? Thanks for your input! Tamie - Original Message - From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I really pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship etc) Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)... Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born in GA Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS Or a later census (1930)... Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, logging [2nd word unreadable] Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4, single, born in MS, both
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
carogene wrote This sounds good to me, how about providing a simple step by step guide for us to follow please. Using nana' steps for me please! I have managed to link pictures using the picture centre process, and have them stored in the Legacy pictures folder within my C drive. So maybe its a similar process? I've never really got to grips with the Picture Centre! It looks complicated and I don't know what all the different bits mean so I just ignore it. I'm sure I could work it out if I tried, but I've never see the need. To attach a picture to a source I just open the Multimedia tab after entering Source Details and it's Picture, Picture, and browse for the picture you want. Adding pictures elsewhere I just click on the Picture icon, click Picture and browse for it. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I like to save them as File not Picture since some are PDFs. On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.ukwrote: carogene wrote This sounds good to me, how about providing a simple step by step guide for us to follow please. Using nana' steps for me please! I have managed to link pictures using the picture centre process, and have them stored in the Legacy pictures folder within my C drive. So maybe its a similar process? I've never really got to grips with the Picture Centre! It looks complicated and I don't know what all the different bits mean so I just ignore it. I'm sure I could work it out if I tried, but I've never see the need. To attach a picture to a source I just open the Multimedia tab after entering Source Details and it's Picture, Picture, and browse for the picture you want. Adding pictures elsewhere I just click on the Picture icon, click Picture and browse for it. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Michele, I guess I have, just never thought about it :-) Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:54:40 -0500 Because I would have THOUSANDS of images attached to my file. michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:57 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Kirsten, Just out of interest, why do you transcribe the census details rather than attach the image to your Source Detail? This is what I do, not only for the reason you give but also because I have immediate access to the census image should I wish to check something eg a questionable age for a person. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:41:37 -0800 Dave: In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital images of things that are readily available online. This could be dangerous with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full transcription of the family's listing in my source notes. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Dave Johnson Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:11 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc. I have used the SourceWriter to document each entry. For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the data quickly. This tells me that my source details pass the test of findability. Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of each census record to include with each reference to the census document in Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events. How would you professionals answer this query? Dave _ Twice the fun—Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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What Kirsten said :) I too put it in the event notes along with comments in [ ]. If I were ever to write a book, the I would want all of the transcribed census info in there because it would be impratical to print page after page after page of census pages in the book. michele - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:39 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Ron: I transcribe the census listings in source notes because the two main uses for my database are for posting at RootsWeb (where attachments wouldn't be allowed) and for sharing reports with other researchers (who can verify the images themselves if they wish). I especially like having the transcription as a source note because I can add comments regarding conflicts, spelling variations, etc. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:58 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Kirsten, Just out of interest, why do you transcribe the census details rather than attach the image to your Source Detail? This is what I do, not only for the reason you give but also because I have immediate access to the census image should I wish to check something eg a questionable age for a person. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:41:37 -0800 Dave: In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital images of things that are readily available online. This could be dangerous with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full transcription of the family's listing in my source notes. Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1953 - Release Date: 02/14/09 18:01:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages - Tracking Individuals
Jenny, Making a To-Do category for unconnected people is a great idea! There are several people I am almost sure belong to my family, but I'm not quite sure how they are related. Keeping their names in a To-Do list category will help me to find them all in one place quickly. Thanks for this great application of the To-Do list. Dede Holden On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Judy wrote I, too, track individuals through census pages, and would appreciate knowing how others keep track of other people, who at one time may not be recognized as related, but after further work, end up being so. When I create a Census Event I put the details of each individual in the Description, but in the Notes I mention the complete household, for example The household comprised Joe Bloggs 531, his wife Fanny Adams 604, their son Joseph Bloggs 883 and boarder Jane Doe. Because my family file is not huge (3,000) and I am frequently reviewing the main people of interest I find that is sufficient for me to find these other people if they crop up again in another context. I also have a pretty good memory for names in my file! However, I appreciate that this is rather a casual approach and would not suit someone who has an enormous file or a great many other people A few times in the past on LUG, people have mentioned the wish for Legacy to include a General Notes field, separate from the Notes attached to each Individual, where one could enter information relating to the whole file. Such a facility would be useful for recording the names of other people who may prove to be of interest. But it occurs to me that one could also create a To Do, putting something like Other People in Task needing to be done and just add the names to the Task Description as one comes across them. If one inserted each name in alphabetical order, it would not be too difficult to check this list whenever a new connection was found. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Michele, I can see that, As I only publish on my web pages on which I do not wish to have census images, I just wondered why transcribe. Although I have no intention of publishing a book, I very much doubt if I would wish to include transcripts of censuses, sources certainly. I know some sites do include pages of census transcripts (which is the only legal way of publishing English/Welsh censuses), but not my choice, For example I have recently completed a multiple descendants report for for my brother-in-law whose family I have been working on, and I never dreamt of including census transcripts. In effect the information is already there in the Events - Residence, Occupation etc. and a transcript would merely duplicate this. Only my opinion, btw, everybody will have their own way of doing things. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:40:31 -0500 What Kirsten said :) I too put it in the event notes along with comments in [ ]. If I were ever to write a book, the I would want all of the transcribed census info in there because it would be impratical to print page after page after page of census pages in the book. michele - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman To: Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:39 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Ron: I transcribe the census listings in source notes because the two main uses for my database are for posting at RootsWeb (where attachments wouldn't be allowed) and for sharing reports with other researchers (who can verify the images themselves if they wish). I especially like having the transcription as a source note because I can add comments regarding conflicts, spelling variations, etc. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:58 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Kirsten, Just out of interest, why do you transcribe the census details rather than attach the image to your Source Detail? This is what I do, not only for the reason you give but also because I have immediate access to the census image should I wish to check something eg a questionable age for a person. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:41:37 -0800 Dave: In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital images of things that are readily available online. This could be dangerous with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full transcription of the family's listing in my source notes. Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1953 - Release Date: 02/14/09 18:01:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all with the new Windows Live. Get started! http://www.download.live.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages
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I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I really pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship etc) Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)... Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born in GA Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS Or a later census (1930)... Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, logging [2nd word unreadable] Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English I copy the event and add it to each person listed. When you run a report it will show the census for every year in order and it makes for a nice progression of what happened in their life. They start out living with their parents, they get married and have a family of their own, and then sometimes they move in with their kids in their later life. You don't see it as well if you have just attached a copy (link) of the census. It does take more time but I think it is worth the effort. Another thing, as I am going back through looking at stuff, it is a lot esier looking at transcriptions than it is to have to look at the original image again and have to re-analyze it. Or course if there is ever a question I can pull the census page up easily. Michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Michele, I can see that, As I only publish on my web pages on which I do not wish to have census images, I just wondered why transcribe. Although I have no intention of publishing a book, I very much doubt if I would wish to include transcripts of censuses, sources certainly. I know some sites do include pages of census transcripts (which is the only legal way of publishing English/Welsh censuses), but not my choice, For example I have recently completed a multiple descendants report for for my brother-in-law whose family I have been working on, and I never dreamt of including census transcripts. In effect the information is already there in the Events - Residence, Occupation etc. and a transcript would merely duplicate this. Only my opinion, btw, everybody will have their own way of doing things. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:40:31 -0500 What Kirsten said :) I too put it in the event notes along with comments in [ ]. If I were ever to write a book, the I would want all of the transcribed census info in there because it would be impratical to print page after page after page of census pages in the book. michele - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman To: Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:39 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Ron: I transcribe the census listings in source notes because the two main uses for my database are for posting at RootsWeb (where attachments wouldn't be allowed) and for sharing reports with other researchers (who can verify the images themselves if they wish). I especially like having
RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Michele, I do underestand what you are saying but I just do it differently. You seem to have a census event, I do not. May I take just the head of the family, Henry Bounds: Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule In my records it would appear as: Henry Bounds - Vital Event Name - only sourced to 1930 census if previously not known. Head - not interested and at least on our census not necessarily accurate, since if the husband is away then the wife would be declared as head owns own home - not on English censuses lives on farm - Residence Event, sourced to 1930 census sex - not sourced white - not interested (and would not include it in anyway) Age - sourced to 1930 census as Date of Birth if not previously known, or comment made if it does not compare with previous 'facts'. Marriage age - not on England census and would not include as such, but may enable date of marriage to be calculated which could be sourced to 1930 census. born in MS - Vital Event Place of birth - only sourced to 1930 census if not previously known. speaks English - not on English census, would not use anyhow farmer - Occupation Event, sourced to 1930 census farm, #31 on farm schedule (I think this is all in one) Location field (no pun intended) for Occupation Event and Residence Event. This would cover everything I would wish to extract but in a different way to yourself Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:25:06 -0500 I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I really pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship etc) Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)... Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born in GA Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS Or a later census (1930)... Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, logging [2nd word unreadable] Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English I copy the event and add it to each person listed. When you run a report it will show the census for every year in order and it makes for a nice progression of what happened in their life. They start out living with their parents, they get married and have a family of their own, and then sometimes they move in with their kids in their later life. You don't see it as well if you have just attached a copy (link) of the census. It does take more time but I think it is worth the effort. Another thing, as I am going back through looking at stuff, it is a lot esier looking at transcriptions than it is to have to look at the original image again and have to re-analyze it. Or course if there is ever a question I can pull the census page up easily. Michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Michele, I can see that, As I
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
I think this was answered after I went to bed, and I'm trying to refresh my memory 8 hours later. I keep a simple-as-possible folder structure for thousands of genealogy-related images and other files. I don't keep it all in the Legacy picture folder but I could. I have a 13 GB folder called ANCESTORS sub-divided in a way that works for various projects, not just Legacy. That way I don't have multiple copies of images and pdf's all over my computer for different purposes. I would highly recommend this as a first step. Organize all your genealogy files 'somewhere' in whatever way best suits you. After entering Event information or whatever it is, I browse through the image icon until I find the folder where the image is and link to it. In most cases it would be linked to the Source Detail. There are image icons all over in Legacy, so it could be a Master Source image, or a Master Event Address image, and so on. It's the same process for all of them. Click the image icon and browse to the file you want. I don't transcribe the text of census records, for instance, but I have a close cousin who does, so I get it both ways on the work we share. Sometimes the text transcription comes from the online database so in those cases I use that as well as the image that I link. I don't print paper copies of census records, etc. The only paper I have are the box-loads other people have sent me. I scanned it all (boy, was that fun) and linked it into Legacy. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog carogene wrote: JL, This sounds good to me, how about providing a simple step by step guide for us to follow please. Using nana' steps for me please! I have managed to link pictures using the picture centre process, and have them stored in the Legacy pictures folder within my C drive. So maybe its a similar process? Cheers Carolyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Many thanks JL, I think I can follow that! At the moment I have a folder for each family, for census, docs, emails etc. Then another folder within My Pics for the photos of each family. It look like I need to combine these and then link to Legacy not store within the programme. Thanks again. Carolyn
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Ron, Actually, I source everything pretty much the way you do! I use the 1930 census for a source for the person's name (or an AKA), date of birth (I of course use abt if I am using an age), their marriage, the relationship of the children to the parents etc. I do have a census event BUT I do not use a separate reisdence or occupation event IF it is spelled out on a census or on an obituary. The only time I would have a separate event for occupation or residence is if the information was coming from somewhere else. For example, one of my ancestors is listed as a farmer on all of the census records and he was. But, he was also a skilled carpenter and made furniture for people in the community. That I have as a separate entry so that I can take the time to explain it more thoroughly. I have never worked with the English census! I think I might take a look at one just to see what the difference are :) :) :) michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:59 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Michele, I do underestand what you are saying but I just do it differently. You seem to have a census event, I do not. May I take just the head of the family, Henry Bounds: Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule In my records it would appear as: Henry Bounds - Vital Event Name - only sourced to 1930 census if previously not known. Head - not interested and at least on our census not necessarily accurate, since if the husband is away then the wife would be declared as head owns own home - not on English censuses lives on farm - Residence Event, sourced to 1930 census sex - not sourced white - not interested (and would not include it in anyway) Age - sourced to 1930 census as Date of Birth if not previously known, or comment made if it does not compare with previous 'facts'. Marriage age - not on England census and would not include as such, but may enable date of marriage to be calculated which could be sourced to 1930 census. born in MS - Vital Event Place of birth - only sourced to 1930 census if not previously known. speaks English - not on English census, would not use anyhow farmer - Occupation Event, sourced to 1930 census farm, #31 on farm schedule (I think this is all in one) Location field (no pun intended) for Occupation Event and Residence Event. This would cover everything I would wish to extract but in a different way to yourself Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:25:06 -0500 I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I really pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship etc) Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)... Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born in GA Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS Or a later census (1930)... Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, logging [2nd word unreadable] Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages - Tracking Individuals
Thanks, Jenny - your idea is a good way to keep track of these people!! I appreciate your response. Judy Judy wrote I, too, track individuals through census pages, and would appreciate knowing how others keep track of other people, who at one time may not be recognized as related, but after further work, end up being so. Jenny wrote: But it occurs to me that one could also create a To Do, putting something like Other People in Task needing to be done and just add the names to the Task Description as one comes across them. If one inserted each name in alphabetical order, it would not be too difficult to check this list whenever a new connection was found. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Michele --- I have a question for you. I know this has been addressed on this list before -- so sorry for asking again. But I too transcribe census records as you do. How do you list them in your master source list? Do you list each census seperately or put all the 1900 Census records under a 1900 census listing? Thanks for your input! Tamie - Original Message - From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I really pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship etc) Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)... Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born in GA Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS Or a later census (1930)... Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, logging [2nd word unreadable] Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English I copy the event and add it to each person listed. When you run a report it will show the census for every year in order and it makes for a nice progression of what happened in their life. They start out living with their parents, they get married and have a family of their own, and then sometimes they move in with their kids in their later life. You don't see it as well if you have just attached a copy (link) of the census. It does take more time but I think it is worth the effort. Another thing, as I am going back through looking at stuff, it is a lot esier looking at transcriptions than it is to have to look at the original image again and have to re-analyze it. Or course if there is ever a question I can pull the census page up easily. Michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Michele, I can see that, As I only publish on my web pages on which I do not wish to have census images, I just wondered why transcribe. Although I have no intention of publishing a book, I very much doubt if I would wish to include transcripts of censuses, sources certainly. I know some sites do include pages of census transcripts (which is the only legal way of publishing English/Welsh censuses), but not my choice, For example I have recently completed a multiple descendants report for for my brother-in-law whose family I have been working on, and I never dreamt of including census transcripts. In effect the information is already there in the Events - Residence, Occupation etc. and a transcript would merely duplicate this. Only my opinion, btw, everybody will have their own way of doing things. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:40:31 -0500 What Kirsten said :) I too put it in the event notes along with comments in [ ]. If I were ever to write a book, the I would want all of the transcribed
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I don't consider myself a professional either, but I like to keep a copy on my computer as a PDF file because I can have several of them open at the same time. On Ancestry, loading and viewing digital images can be painfully slow. The PDF's pop up quickly. I have discovered other family connections based on other people listed on the same census pages, so going back to the actual document has been a great plus for me in my research. Of course, I now have an external hard drive, because these files take up so much space, but it's worth it to me. I'm interested in hearing what others have to say about this, too. Dede Holden On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 1:31 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: I don't consider myself a professional (never got paid), but I would say it is a personal choice, with factors being size of your equipment, the maintenance cost of same, and what you plan to do when finally finished. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 1:11 PM For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc. I have used the SourceWriter to document each entry. For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the data quickly. This tells me that my source details pass the test of findability. Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of each census record to include with each reference to the census document in Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events. How would you professionals answer this query? Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages - Tracking Individuals
I, too, track individuals through census pages, and would appreciate knowing how others keep track of other people, who at one time may not be recognized as related, but after further work, end up being so. For instance - a person may be a boarder at a particular residence, in any given census year, and I note, in the source, with whom he/she is living, but see no way to keep track of these extra people. I just recently discovered a marriage certificate for a person, went searching for the family in census records and found that I had reference to them in a census source, recorded years earlier. The boarder living with the family was actually a niece - daughter of the wife's sister, for whom I had adequate information in a distant state. Putting the residing with in an event field would seem to clutter up a report. Any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated. Judy - Original Message - From: Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages I don't consider myself a professional either, but I like to keep a copy on my computer as a PDF file because I can have several of them open at the same time. On Ancestry, loading and viewing digital images can be painfully slow. The PDF's pop up quickly. I have discovered other family connections based on other people listed on the same census pages, so going back to the actual document has been a great plus for me in my research. Of course, I now have an external hard drive, because these files take up so much space, but it's worth it to me. I'm interested in hearing what others have to say about this, too. Dede Holden On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 1:31 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: I don't consider myself a professional (never got paid), but I would say it is a personal choice, with factors being size of your equipment, the maintenance cost of same, and what you plan to do when finally finished. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 1:11 PM For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc. I have used the SourceWriter to document each entry. For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the data quickly. This tells me that my source details pass the test of findability. Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of each census record to include with each reference to the census document in Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events. How would you professionals answer this query? Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Dave Johnson wrote Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of each census record to include with each reference to the census document in Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events. How would you professionals answer this query? May a non-professional offer an opinion?! I don't actually create separate Events for each column on a Census as you do, just entering everything as a Census Event. (I do, though, use the Census for a Source for name, age and place of birth.) I attach a digital image of the Census page to the Source Detail, but I don't print this on Reports. I keep the digital images because I am frequently wanting to refer back to the page for various reasons and I can't always be sure that I will have access to the online image at any time I might want it - Internet connection not available for some reason, subscription to Census website lapsed, Census website temporarily down, etc. Vast amounts of storage space are available quite cheaply nowadays so keeping hundreds of images is not a problem, although I do trim the images and do not save in colour. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages - Tracking Individuals
Judy wrote I, too, track individuals through census pages, and would appreciate knowing how others keep track of other people, who at one time may not be recognized as related, but after further work, end up being so. When I create a Census Event I put the details of each individual in the Description, but in the Notes I mention the complete household, for example The household comprised Joe Bloggs 531, his wife Fanny Adams 604, their son Joseph Bloggs 883 and boarder Jane Doe. Because my family file is not huge (3,000) and I am frequently reviewing the main people of interest I find that is sufficient for me to find these other people if they crop up again in another context. I also have a pretty good memory for names in my file! However, I appreciate that this is rather a casual approach and would not suit someone who has an enormous file or a great many other people A few times in the past on LUG, people have mentioned the wish for Legacy to include a General Notes field, separate from the Notes attached to each Individual, where one could enter information relating to the whole file. Such a facility would be useful for recording the names of other people who may prove to be of interest. But it occurs to me that one could also create a To Do, putting something like Other People in Task needing to be done and just add the names to the Task Description as one comes across them. If one inserted each name in alphabetical order, it would not be too difficult to check this list whenever a new connection was found. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Dave: In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital images of things that are readily available online. This could be dangerous with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full transcription of the family's listing in my source notes. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Dave Johnson Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:11 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc. I have used the SourceWriter to document each entry. For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the data quickly. This tells me that my source details pass the test of findability. Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of each census record to include with each reference to the census document in Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events. How would you professionals answer this query? Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
I agree with Kirsten. I do not make copies of readily available images that are online. michele - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:41 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Dave: In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital images of things that are readily available online. This could be dangerous with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full transcription of the family's listing in my source notes. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Dave Johnson Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:11 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc. I have used the SourceWriter to document each entry. For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the data quickly. This tells me that my source details pass the test of findability. Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of each census record to include with each reference to the census document in Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events. How would you professionals answer this query? Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1953 - Release Date: 02/14/09 18:01:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Kirsten, Just out of interest, why do you transcribe the census details rather than attach the image to your Source Detail? This is what I do, not only for the reason you give but also because I have immediate access to the census image should I wish to check something eg a questionable age for a person. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:41:37 -0800 Dave: In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital images of things that are readily available online. This could be dangerous with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full transcription of the family's listing in my source notes. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Dave Johnson Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:11 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc. I have used the SourceWriter to document each entry. For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the data quickly. This tells me that my source details pass the test of findability. Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of each census record to include with each reference to the census document in Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events. How would you professionals answer this query? Dave _ Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all with the new Windows Live. Get started! http://www.download.live.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Because I would have THOUSANDS of images attached to my file. michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:57 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Kirsten, Just out of interest, why do you transcribe the census details rather than attach the image to your Source Detail? This is what I do, not only for the reason you give but also because I have immediate access to the census image should I wish to check something eg a questionable age for a person. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:41:37 -0800 Dave: In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital images of things that are readily available online. This could be dangerous with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full transcription of the family's listing in my source notes. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Dave Johnson Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:11 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc. I have used the SourceWriter to document each entry. For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the data quickly. This tells me that my source details pass the test of findability. Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of each census record to include with each reference to the census document in Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events. How would you professionals answer this query? Dave _ Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all with the new Windows Live. Get started! http://www.download.live.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1953 - Release Date: 02/14/09 18:01:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
I personally do as Ron does, I attach the images to the source detail. I want cold hard proof and a comprehensive, complete data file. Saves trees. -- From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:54 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Because I would have THOUSANDS of images attached to my file. michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:57 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Kirsten, Just out of interest, why do you transcribe the census details rather than attach the image to your Source Detail? This is what I do, not only for the reason you give but also because I have immediate access to the census image should I wish to check something eg a questionable age for a person. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:41:37 -0800 Dave: In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital images of things that are readily available online. This could be dangerous with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full transcription of the family's listing in my source notes. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Dave Johnson Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:11 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc. I have used the SourceWriter to document each entry. For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the data quickly. This tells me that my source details pass the test of findability. Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of each census record to include with each reference to the census document in Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events. How would you professionals answer this query? Dave _ Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all with the new Windows Live. Get started! http://www.download.live.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1953 - Release Date: 02/14/09 18:01:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
They're not 'attached', they're linked. I have thousands and it doesn't create any problem I know of. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Michele Lewis wrote: Because I would have THOUSANDS of images attached to my file. michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:57 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Kirsten, Just out of interest, why do you transcribe the census details rather than attach the image to your Source Detail? This is what I do, not only for the reason you give but also because I have immediate access to the census image should I wish to check something eg a questionable age for a person. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:41:37 -0800 Dave: In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital images of things that are readily available online. This could be dangerous with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full transcription of the family's listing in my source notes. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Dave Johnson Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:11 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc. I have used the SourceWriter to document each entry. For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the data quickly. This tells me that my source details pass the test of findability. Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of each census record to include with each reference to the census document in Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events. How would you professionals answer this query? Dave _ Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all with the new Windows Live. Get started! http://www.download.live.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1953 - Release Date: 02/14/09 18:01:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
JL, This sounds good to me, how about providing a simple step by step guide for us to follow please. Using nana' steps for me please! I have managed to link pictures using the picture centre process, and have them stored in the Legacy pictures folder within my C drive. So maybe its a similar process? Cheers Carolyn
RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Ron: I transcribe the census listings in source notes because the two main uses for my database are for posting at RootsWeb (where attachments wouldn't be allowed) and for sharing reports with other researchers (who can verify the images themselves if they wish). I especially like having the transcription as a source note because I can add comments regarding conflicts, spelling variations, etc. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:58 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Kirsten, Just out of interest, why do you transcribe the census details rather than attach the image to your Source Detail? This is what I do, not only for the reason you give but also because I have immediate access to the census image should I wish to check something eg a questionable age for a person. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:41:37 -0800 Dave: In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital images of things that are readily available online. This could be dangerous with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full transcription of the family's listing in my source notes. Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
I don't consider myself a professional (never got paid), but I would say it is a personal choice, with factors being size of your equipment, the maintenance cost of same, and what you plan to do when finally finished. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 1:11 PM For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc. I have used the SourceWriter to document each entry. For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the data quickly. This tells me that my source details pass the test of findability. Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of each census record to include with each reference to the census document in Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events. How would you professionals answer this query? Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
