date:20140109

On 09/01/2014 11:57, Ed Ladendorf wrote:
 A direct line ancestor, Heinrich Ladendorf, has been found listed as
 Henry Lander in the 1860 census. He has also been found listed as H
 Ladendorff (an extra F), Henry Landenderf, etc. on different
 sources. There are several other variations.

 Would you list every spelling you find, or just the ones where it is
 obvious they should be listed, i.e. Henry Lander or Henry Landenderf?
 Would you also do the same for those who are not direct line? Thanks for
 any direction. I'm trying to get it right this time.

I record EXACTLY WHAT I SEE, so when recording Heinrich's 1860 Census
entry I would record his name as Henry Lander (this would be part of the
entry in the Desc field) and if he was head of the household I would put
household of Henry Lander as part of the Source Detail.

What I would almost certainly NOT do is enter any of those names in the
AKA field, which I reserve for other names by which a person was
actually known, not for spelling errors, typos etc.  I know that if a
person is named, for example, John Clark, I need to look for Clark,
Clarke, Clerk - with all the variations of John - and if I cite a Source
where he is referred to as Jno Clarke I think anyone can see the
connection to John Clark.  If John Clarke is brought up by his
stepfather Mr Brown and regularly uses the name John Brown, then that is
an AKA and needs to be recorded as such.

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Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

2014-01-09 Thread ChasH

I customize the family view with AKA1 (1st alternate name) and AKA2 (2nd
alternate name), then I list all the different Given names and spellings
in AKA1 separating each with a space. (Heinrich Henry)I do the same for
Surnames in AKA2. (Ladendorff Landenderf) That way I can easily see all
the name variations used by the husband/wife on the family view. It
works for me.  Add sources to the Name as usual bolding the variation on
the source detail.
ChasH
On 1/9/2014 8:07 AM, Michele/Support wrote:

 This is really a personal preference thing but I will tell you that I
 record ALL akas that I find in the records.  In your census example, I
 would record each one and I would use the specific census as the
 source for each AKA.  That way I can easily see how his name was
 recorded and where it was recorded that way.

 Michele

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 *From:*Ed Ladendorf [mailto:edladend...@yahoo.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2014 6:58 AM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

 A direct line ancestor, Heinrich Ladendorf, has been found listed as
 Henry Lander in the 1860 census. He has also been found listed as H
 Ladendorff (an extra F), Henry Landenderf, etc. on different
 sources. There are several other variations.

 Would you list every spelling you find, or just the ones where it is
 obvious they should be listed, i.e. Henry Lander or Henry Landenderf?
 Would you also do the same for those who are not direct line? Thanks
 for any direction. I'm trying to get it right this time.

 Ed



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[LegacyUG] Documents in Legacy

2014-01-09 Thread robs_familytree .

This is not a criticism, just a question.

Since Legacy can read PDFs, why do we only get to see the standard document 
clipart in Source Media, instead of a smaller version of the document like we 
can with jpgs and other pictures?

Just curious,

Thanks!

Rob Miller





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RE: [LegacyUG] Documents in Legacy

I don’t think there is a standard Windows function for doing that.  If you look 
at Windows file explorer, at a folder with mixed jpg and pdf files, and you 
have in Thumbnail view, you’ll see thumbnails of the jpg files but just a big 
icon for the pdf files.



The only place I can remember seeing thumbnails of pdf files is in Paperport.  
So it is possible, but they may be using proprietary software to do it.





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Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 9:09 AM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Documents in Legacy



This is not a criticism, just a question.

Since Legacy can read PDFs, why do we only get to see the standard document 
clipart in Source Media, instead of a smaller version of the document like we 
can with jpgs and other pictures?

Just curious,

Thanks!

Rob Miller





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[LegacyUG] testing

2014-01-09 Thread Mary LeClerc

Haven't been receiving mail from the group for the last week or more.

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Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

2014-01-09 Thread singhals

Ed Ladendorf wrote:
 A direct line ancestor, Heinrich Ladendorf, has been found
 listed as Henry Lander in the 1860 census. He has also been
 found listed as H Ladendorff (an extra F), Henry
 Landenderf, etc. on different sources. There are several
 other variations.

 Would you list every spelling you find, or just the ones
 where it is obvious they should be listed, i.e. Henry Lander
 or Henry Landenderf? Would you also do the same for those
 who are not direct line? Thanks for any direction. I'm
 trying to get it right this time.
.

Right is a tad subjective, though, Ed.  What's legally
right may not be logically right or even ethically
right, and what's right for family may not be right
for scholars or professional genealogists.

It also depends on where you're thinking of recording it.
In your SOURCES, you record what's on the document, period.
It's a bit more complex in family-view.

I tried entering people under the spelling on the document
and it created trees with 4 or 5 alternate parents, made
using the database unnecessarily challenging, and generally
wreaked havoc.  I decided life was too short. I went back to
entering it so I could FIND it again.

I have one surname for which I currently have 42
*documented* variant spellings.  That surname gets the
spelling my branch of the family has used since about 1830.
I don't want to see a printed list of those variants every
time I generate a report.

Cheryl







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Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

2014-01-09 Thread Moe Crosby

I record all the AKAs with the source. Not only for the sake of people 
following-up my research, but for myself!  There is nothing worse than being 
pretty sure about something, but not being able to find where the information 
came from!

On Thu, 1/9/14, Ed Ladendorf edladend...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Subject: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014, 3:57 AM

 A direct line ancestor,
 Heinrich Ladendorf, has been found listed as Henry Lander in
 the 1860 census. He has also been found listed as H
 Ladendorff (an extra F), Henry Landenderf, etc.
 on different sources. There are several
 other variations.
 Would you list every spelling you find, or
 just the ones where it is obvious they should be listed,
 i.e. Henry Lander or Henry Landenderf? Would you
 also do the same for those who are not direct
 line? Thanks for any direction. I'm trying to get it
 right this time.
 Ed

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RE: [LegacyUG] testing

Your email came through to the group.  There has been plenty of activity on the 
group the past week.



I guess you’ll need to contact support (supp...@legacyfamilytree.com).  Don’t 
know if the reset function they use will work in your case.  That usually 
solves the problem for new users whose accounts don’t get started properly.  
Yours is first I’ve heard of where an active account has just stopped working.



From: Mary LeClerc [mailto:quiltingm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 9:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] testing



Haven't been receiving mail from the group for the last week or more.

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RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

I have always wondered about obvious misspellings of names from records such as 
the census.  I transcribe records myself if an image is available because some 
of the transcriptions I've found online are incorrect and completely destroy 
the spelling of names.  Should we include the misspellings as an AKA even if 
our interpretation differs from that of software or human transcriptions?  In 
the case of typewritten records, it is obvious to list the name as written even 
if it is known to be misspelled.



I always include all AKA's because it could be important in finding new 
records, but I am hesitant to include those that were transcribed wrong if an 
image clearly shows a different spelling.  I have to take into consideration, 
especially with the census records, that many misspellings could be attributed 
to the census taker and/or family member could not read or write or didn't know 
how to spell their own name.



Bill Boswell



From: Michele/Support [mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 9:07 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs



This is really a personal preference thing but I will tell you that I record 
ALL akas that I find in the records.  In your census example, I would record 
each one and I would use the specific census as the source for each AKA.  That 
way I can easily see how his name was recorded and where it was recorded that 
way.



Michele

Technical Support

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com

www.LegacyFamilyTree.com



From: Ed Ladendorf [mailto:edladend...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 6:58 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs



A direct line ancestor, Heinrich Ladendorf, has been found listed as Henry 
Lander in the 1860 census. He has also been found listed as H Ladendorff (an 
extra F), Henry Landenderf, etc. on different sources. There are several 
other variations.



Would you list every spelling you find, or just the ones where it is obvious 
they should be listed, i.e. Henry Lander or Henry Landenderf? Would you also do 
the same for those who are not direct line? Thanks for any direction. I'm 
trying to get it right this time.



Ed









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[LegacyUG] How to tell where a source file is located?

2014-01-09 Thread Dave Johnson

I continue to reclaim my lost census records and link them with the
relinker.  Sometimes it is not clear whether they should be located in the
county folder or the city folder.  I have learned how to discover the name
of the lost file.  Is there a way to discover where Legacy is expecting to
find the file - so I can put the reclaimed copy in the correct file the
first time?



Dave





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RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

I have a feeling that the Relinker tool will only work if your Legacy data has 
already been set up with the images linked.  I don't think it will work if you 
are trying to establish the linking process unless an FTM GEDCOM has preserved 
the path to those images.



What version of FTM are you using?



Bill Boswell



From: Diane Marcotte [mailto:dianemarco...@bell.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 10:10 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8



Unfortunately that did not work.  I transferred all 2300 media files from the 
FTM folder I have into ….\Legacy Family Tree\Media as you suggested.  I then 
ran the Relinker tool but still get this message “There are no Media files in 
this family file.”



My FTM media is called “Latest Full Tree_Jul 15, 2008 Media” and it is off a 
folder called “Family Tree Maker” on my hard-drive.  First I copied the “Latest 
Full Tree_Jul 15, 2008 Media” folder to Legacy Family Tree\Media and when that 
didn’t work I deleted the folder and copied just the 2300 media files.  But I 
still get the message “There are no Media files in this family file.”



This is the file structure I have after installing Legacy and importing my tree 
from FTM:





You mentioned a more complicated method???



Thanks!

Diane






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RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

Bill, I am using FTM2009.   Thanks!

From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: January-09-14 11:58 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

I have a feeling that the Relinker tool will only work if your Legacy data has 
already been set up with the images linked.  I don't think it will work if you 
are trying to establish the linking process unless an FTM GEDCOM has preserved 
the path to those images.

What version of FTM are you using?

Bill Boswell

From: Diane Marcotte [mailto:dianemarco...@bell.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 10:10 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

Unfortunately that did not work.  I transferred all 2300 media files from the 
FTM folder I have into ….\Legacy Family Tree\Media as you suggested.  I then 
ran the Relinker tool but still get this message “There are no Media files in 
this family file.”

My FTM media is called “Latest Full Tree_Jul 15, 2008 Media” and it is off a 
folder called “Family Tree Maker” on my hard-drive.  First I copied the “Latest 
Full Tree_Jul 15, 2008 Media” folder to Legacy Family Tree\Media and when that 
didn’t work I deleted the folder and copied just the 2300 media files.  But I 
still get the message “There are no Media files in this family file.”

This is the file structure I have after installing Legacy and importing my tree 
from FTM:

You mentioned a more complicated method???

Thanks!

Diane

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RE: [LegacyUG] How to tell where a source file is located?

I always place my census record images by the year of the census then the 
individual files are renamed by Roll number, State, Census Page Number, and 
name of head of household (i.e., 1920 CT T625_190 Pg 3-B Wm B Shalkop).  I say 
renamed because some online websites use a meaningless number for a file 
name.  My way works for me, but may not work for others so you have to create a 
system that works for you then stick with it.



I am overly organized and also keep a spreadsheet for photos listing all file 
names along with who is in the picture, when it was taken, and other useful 
information.  That's probably the extreme, but it sure helps when I need to 
find a file when there are thousands to go through.



Bill Boswell



From: Dave Johnson [mailto:davel...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 11:37 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to tell where a source file is located?



I continue to reclaim my lost census records and link them with the relinker.  
Sometimes it is not clear whether they should be located in the county folder 
or the city folder.  I have learned how to discover the name of the lost file.  
Is there a way to discover where Legacy is expecting to find the file - so I 
can put the reclaimed copy in the correct file the first time?



Dave






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Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

At one point Diane I believe you said you chose an option in FTM to
export only to GEDCOM 5.5. In Legacy when we present that option we only
export a limited subset of the data for individuals. Did you also choose
to include the links to your media in the GEDCOM? If there were no links
to media in the FTM GEDCOM then Legacy would not know that you had media
linked in the original FTM file. The message from the relinker saying
there are no media files in the family file is saying that Legacy did
not find any media links to any media file. It can only fix links to
files which are named but where the location of the file has changed or
where the user has changed the name of the file so it no longer exists
under the expected name.

Open the GEDCOM you exported from FTM, it is a plain text file so you
can open it with Notepad or any other text editor. Use the search
function to see if you can find the name of one of the files you know
were attached to someone in the file. If the file name was not in the
GEDCOM then you will have to go back to FTM and export a new GEDCOM.
This time select the option to export for FTM itself to include the
maximum information including links to the media files. Import that new
GEDCOM into a new family file to see if the media links now exist.

Brian
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On 09-Jan-2014 10:09 AM, Diane Marcotte wrote:
 Unfortunately that did not work.  I transferred all 2300 media files from the 
 FTM folder I have into â€¦.\Legacy Family Tree\Media as you suggested.  I 
 then ran the Relinker tool but still get this message â€œThere are no Media 
 files in this family file.â€

 My FTM media is called â€œLatest Full Tree_Jul 15, 2008 Mediaâ€ and it is 
 off a folder called â€œFamily Tree Makerâ€ on my hard-drive.  First I copied 
 the â€œLatest Full Tree_Jul 15, 2008 Mediaâ€ folder to Legacy Family 
 Tree\Media and when that didnâ€™t work I deleted the folder and copied just 
 the 2300 media files.  But I still get the message â€œThere are no Media 
 files in this family file.â€

 This is the file structure I have after installing Legacy and importing my 
 tree from FTM:

 You mentioned a more complicated method???

 Thanks!

 Diane



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RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

2014-01-09 Thread Michele/Support

This is a totally different question.   Ancestry.com is the worse.  If the 
index says Joan Davis but I clearly see John Davies on the actual page, I 
record the name as John Davies.  I don’t care what the indexer wrote.  This 
happens all the time.



On your other point, I would be careful making assumptions about how a name 
should be spelled, especially on census records.  Yes, people were illiterate 
and census takers could be in a hurry.  A neighbor could have been the one to 
provide the information.  You just never know.



However… I have a person in my file named Henry Pinkney McMichael.  Henry is a 
girl.  If you were to look on Ancestry.com many people have her as Henrietta 
because they ASSUME that must have been her real name.  All of the census 
takers had to have been wrong, right?  How about a Bible entry written by her 
own mother where she recorded the name as Henry.   Never assume.



Another example, my great grandmother was named Corrine.  Or, was it Corine, 
Corinne, Corean?  You tell me.  I record it every way I see because I have no 
way to know how SHE spelled it (or her mother at the time of her birth).





Michele

Technical Support

 mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mich...@legacyfamilytree.com

 http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/ http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com



From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 11:29 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs



I have always wondered about obvious misspellings of names from records such as 
the census.  I transcribe records myself if an image is available because some 
of the transcriptions I've found online are incorrect and completely destroy 
the spelling of names.  Should we include the misspellings as an AKA even if 
our interpretation differs from that of software or human transcriptions?  In 
the case of typewritten records, it is obvious to list the name as written even 
if it is known to be misspelled.



I always include all AKA's because it could be important in finding new 
records, but I am hesitant to include those that were transcribed wrong if an 
image clearly shows a different spelling.  I have to take into consideration, 
especially with the census records, that many misspellings could be attributed 
to the census taker and/or family member could not read or write or didn't know 
how to spell their own name.



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Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

If the person is indexed under the name, incorrect as it may be, how
will you find them again in other places which derive their data from
the original place which contains the error without having recorded that
spelling error as an AKA? Yes you said you put the name as it was
recorded in the source transcription but the AKA is a more visible place
to see that somewhere his name was recorded with that transcription error.

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On 09-Jan-2014 9:20 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
snip

 What I would almost certainly NOT do is enter any of those names in the
 AKA field, which I reserve for other names by which a person was
 actually known, not for spelling errors, typos etc.  I know that if a
 person is named, for example, John Clark, I need to look for Clark,
 Clarke, Clerk - with all the variations of John - and if I cite a Source
 where he is referred to as Jno Clarke I think anyone can see the
 connection to John Clark.  If John Clarke is brought up by his
 stepfather Mr Brown and regularly uses the name John Brown, then that is
 an AKA and needs to be recorded as such.




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RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

I got it to work in FTM 2014.  I exported my FTM data file with images to a 
GEDCOM 5.5.



Click on OK.

The box Export to GEDCOM pops up.

Instead of selecting Other select FTM 16

Leave character set at ANSI

Click OK

Name your GEDCOM



Watch the box that pops up to make sure it is transferring media.  I tested it 
on a select few names that I knew had images.



I don't know if it will work with Version 2009, but it's worth a try.



Bill Boswell



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Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:14 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8



Bill, I am using FTM2009.   Thanks!



From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: January-09-14 11:58 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8



I have a feeling that the Relinker tool will only work if your Legacy data has 
already been set up with the images linked.  I don't think it will work if you 
are trying to establish the linking process unless an FTM GEDCOM has preserved 
the path to those images.



What version of FTM are you using?



Bill Boswell



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Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 10:10 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8



Unfortunately that did not work.  I transferred all 2300 media files from the 
FTM folder I have into ….\Legacy Family Tree\Media as you suggested.  I then 
ran the Relinker tool but still get this message “There are no Media files in 
this family file.”



My FTM media is called “Latest Full Tree_Jul 15, 2008 Media” and it is off a 
folder called “Family Tree Maker” on my hard-drive.  First I copied the “Latest 
Full Tree_Jul 15, 2008 Media” folder to Legacy Family Tree\Media and when that 
didn’t work I deleted the folder and copied just the 2300 media files.  But I 
still get the message “There are no Media files in this family file.”



This is the file structure I have after installing Legacy and importing my tree 
from FTM:





You mentioned a more complicated method???



Thanks!

Diane





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Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

Create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination. That
will include all the FTM information and give Legacy the maximum amount
of data, including links to any media files you have linked in FTM.

Brian
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On 08-Jan-2014 5:03 PM, Diane Marcotte wrote:
 Hello,

 I just bought Legacy 8 and have found that my media files have not come
 across with the Gedcom file I made in FTM.  Can someone explain how I can
 get the media files - I have over 2300 of them!

 Many thanks!!

 Diane



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Re: [LegacyUG] Documents in Legacy

2014-01-09 Thread Richard Van Wasshnova

Rob,

The Legacy program includes an internal picture viewer. Other file types
depend on your computer's default program to view them.

--
Richard Van Wasshnova

On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 7:09 AM, robs_familytree . 
robs_familyt...@hotmail.ca wrote:

 This is not a criticism, just a question.

 Since Legacy can read PDFs, why do we only get to see the standard
 document clipart in Source Media, instead of a smaller version of the
 document like we can with jpgs and other pictures?

 Just curious,

 Thanks!

 Rob Miller





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RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

Thanks.  I know about Ancestry.com.  I believe they use software to transcribe 
most of their records which is why I don't trust their transcriptions.  If no 
image is available with the transcription, it gets a low-star rating from me 
until I find something better.



I guess I should have been clearer on this.  I was talking about people I knew 
like my great aunts and uncles and those who share my last name or that I knew. 
 I've seen Boswell spelled as BOSWENN.  I know that to be wrong, but I listed 
it as an AKA anyway.  I've only found this at Ancestry.com.



In that same census record, many of the first names were wrong too and I've 
seen this error get transferred over to other people's trees.  Johanna was 
listed as Josephine.  This one is typed so it had to be listed in my AKA's.  
This could have been converted from handwritten to typewritten after the census 
was taken and transcribed wrong at that time.  I can't imagine the census taker 
had a typewriter with him/her at the time.



Bill Boswell



From: Michele/Support [mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:19 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs



This is a totally different question.   Ancestry.com is the worse.  If the 
index says Joan Davis but I clearly see John Davies on the actual page, I 
record the name as John Davies.  I don’t care what the indexer wrote.  This 
happens all the time.



On your other point, I would be careful making assumptions about how a name 
should be spelled, especially on census records.  Yes, people were illiterate 
and census takers could be in a hurry.  A neighbor could have been the one to 
provide the information.  You just never know.



However… I have a person in my file named Henry Pinkney McMichael.  Henry is a 
girl.  If you were to look on Ancestry.com many people have her as Henrietta 
because they ASSUME that must have been her real name.  All of the census 
takers had to have been wrong, right?  How about a Bible entry written by her 
own mother where she recorded the name as Henry.   Never assume.



Another example, my great grandmother was named Corrine.  Or, was it Corine, 
Corinne, Corean?  You tell me.  I record it every way I see because I have no 
way to know how SHE spelled it (or her mother at the time of her birth).





Michele

Technical Support

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com

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RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

2014-01-09 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot

I’m wondering if all those that responded saying that they record every AKA 
along with the source where they found it really mean that they record every 
common variation of a name. What I mean specifically if someone’s given name 
was Robert,  do they record an instance of Bob, and Bobbie, and Rob, and 
Robbie. If the name was Franklin, do they record Frank and Frankie? So far I’ve 
tended to ignore these common variations as additional AKAs and have only 
recorded the unusual ones such as “Stretch”, “Slim”, “Bones”, etc. It just 
seems to me that if you record each and every instance of a spelling variation 
that you find, you end up with a family file that is grossly inflated in sheer 
numbers. I guess what I’m getting at is there has to be a little common sense 
applied here. For example, if you do a search for someone named Robert on 
FamilySeach, it will automatically include all those common variations to 
include Rob, Bob, etc.





Brian in CA



From: Ed Ladendorf [mailto:edladend...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 3:58 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs



A direct line ancestor, Heinrich Ladendorf, has been found listed as Henry 
Lander in the 1860 census. He has also been found listed as H Ladendorff (an 
extra F), Henry Landenderf, etc. on different sources. There are several 
other variations.



Would you list every spelling you find, or just the ones where it is obvious 
they should be listed, i.e. Henry Lander or Henry Landenderf? Would you also do 
the same for those who are not direct line? Thanks for any direction. I'm 
trying to get it right this time.



Ed








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RE: [LegacyUG] Documents in Legacy

I attach a number of PDF files to sources, but also when possible include the 
text contained or related to that PDF that way I don't have to keep opening an 
external file.  Another alternative, if available to you, is to convert PDF 
files to JPG's if it doesn't contain a lot of pages.  I just choose relevant 
pages for that source then convert them to JPGs.  Just a suggestion.



Bill Boswell





From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 10:42 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Documents in Legacy



I don’t think there is a standard Windows function for doing that.  If you look 
at Windows file explorer, at a folder with mixed jpg and pdf files, and you 
have in Thumbnail view, you’ll see thumbnails of the jpg files but just a big 
icon for the pdf files.



The only place I can remember seeing thumbnails of pdf files is in Paperport.  
So it is possible, but they may be using proprietary software to do it.





From: robs_familytree . [mailto:robs_familyt...@hotmail.ca]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 9:09 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Documents in Legacy



This is not a criticism, just a question.

Since Legacy can read PDFs, why do we only get to see the standard document 
clipart in Source Media, instead of a smaller version of the document like we 
can with jpgs and other pictures?

Just curious,

Thanks!

Rob Miller




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RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

That is true about an inflated family file and all those variations.



For abbreviations like Robt (Robert) and Jno (John), I normally spell them out 
since they're obvious.  Something like Hattie (I have a lot of Hattie's) or 
Fannie I have to assume are nicknames so I have to list them.  Sometimes the 
records show different spellings of the name or the middle name is used for a 
first name.  I had this with one ancestor and discovered that because he used 
his middle name (Mathew) as a first name and his first name (Ignatius) as his 
middle, his wife had a problem receiving his pension money because they thought 
it was a different person.  In that case, I listed his name switch because he 
did this often in the records.



Bill Boswell



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Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs



I’m wondering if all those that responded saying that they record every AKA 
along with the source where they found it really mean that they record every 
common variation of a name. What I mean specifically if someone’s given name 
was Robert,  do they record an instance of Bob, and Bobbie, and Rob, and 
Robbie. If the name was Franklin, do they record Frank and Frankie? So far I’ve 
tended to ignore these common variations as additional AKAs and have only 
recorded the unusual ones such as “Stretch”, “Slim”, “Bones”, etc. It just 
seems to me that if you record each and every instance of a spelling variation 
that you find, you end up with a family file that is grossly inflated in sheer 
numbers. I guess what I’m getting at is there has to be a little common sense 
applied here. For example, if you do a search for someone named Robert on 
FamilySeach, it will automatically include all those common variations to 
include Rob, Bob, etc.





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Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

2014-01-09 Thread Leon Chapman

Diane:

Brian has the correct answer.

Create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination. That
will include all the FTM information and give Legacy the maximum amount
of data, including links to any media files you have linked in FTM.

Chap

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On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Brian/Support
br...@legacyfamilytree.comwrote:

 Create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination. That
 will include all the FTM information and give Legacy the maximum amount
 of data, including links to any media files you have linked in FTM.

 Brian
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 On 08-Jan-2014 5:03 PM, Diane Marcotte wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I just bought Legacy 8 and have found that my media files have not come
  across with the Gedcom file I made in FTM.  Can someone explain how I can
  get the media files - I have over 2300 of them!
 
  Many thanks!!
 
  Diane



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Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

2014-01-09 Thread MikeFry

On 2014/01/09 19:18, Michele/Support wrote:

 This is a totally different question.   Ancestry.com is the worse.  If the 
 index
 says Joan Davis but I clearly see John Davies on the actual page, I record the
 name as John Davies.  I don’t care what the indexer wrote. This happens all 
 the
 time.

And without a correction to the transcription (which Ancestry _NEVER_ do) how is
someone else going to find the record?

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Regards,
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Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] To-Do Items

I have input a suggestion to our enhancements list to have the Name/Rin
reinstated either in the title bar or in the header of the screen.

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On 08-Jan-2014 3:32 PM, robs_familytree . wrote:
 In To-Do Items, v7.5 used to list the name of the person, RIN#, and number of 
 To-Do Items on the title bar:

 i.e. To-Do Item: Robert Miller [1] (1)

 Version 8 is missing all the personal information (shows only has To-Do 
 Item). I don't remember seeing this discussed. Having the personal 
 information listed is a real time saver.

 Does anyone else have this issue?

 I'm using 367 version of Legacy 8.

 Thanks!

 Rob Miller



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RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

Hi Brian,



I opened the GEDCOM file in Word - all 3198 pages of it. I searched for a few 
names of images I have in my FTM Tree and it found none.  I then searched for 
the term “jpg” (without the quotes) and it only found instances where the term 
jpg came up in notes I had made.



The main problem seems to be that FTM does not give me the option of including 
media files, or it now seems even links, when I export to GEDCOM5.5.  The 
dialog box shows that I have three choices under “Output format”, namely 
“Family Tree Maker” – “GEDCOM 5.5 (standard)” and “GEDCOM for FTM 16”.  Below 
this there are boxes next to 7 items, namely:

·Privatize living people

·Include private facts

·Include private notes

·Include media files

·Include tasks

·Include charts, reports, and books

·Include only items linked to selected individuals



When I choose “GEDCOM 5.5(standard)” the last 4 in the list are greyed out 
INCLUDING “include media files”.



It appears that the links do not show in the GEDCOM file either so I can see 
that Legacy doesn’t know I had links in the original FTM file.



Surely Legacy must get new users who were using FTM before.  Do all of these 
new users have to abandon Legacy 8 or manually link every image?  I don’t have 
the time or interest in spending days if not months doing this as I have over 
2300 images.  I realize the problem stems with FTM but I was hoping that a 
solution existed.



Thanks for your attempts to help!!

Diane



-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: January-09-14 12:14 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8



At one point Diane I believe you said you chose an option in FTM to export only 
to GEDCOM 5.5. In Legacy when we present that option we only export a limited 
subset of the data for individuals. Did you also choose to include the links to 
your media in the GEDCOM? If there were no links to media in the FTM GEDCOM 
then Legacy would not know that you had media linked in the original FTM file. 
The message from the relinker saying there are no media files in the family 
file is saying that Legacy did not find any media links to any media file. It 
can only fix links to files which are named but where the location of the file 
has changed or where the user has changed the name of the file so it no longer 
exists under the expected name.



Open the GEDCOM you exported from FTM, it is a plain text file so you can open 
it with Notepad or any other text editor. Use the search function to see if you 
can find the name of one of the files you know were attached to someone in the 
file. If the file name was not in the GEDCOM then you will have to go back to 
FTM and export a new GEDCOM.

This time select the option to export for FTM itself to include the maximum 
information including links to the media files. Import that new GEDCOM into a 
new family file to see if the media links now exist.



Brian

Customer Support

Millennia Corporation

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On 09-Jan-2014 10:09 AM, Diane Marcotte wrote:

 Unfortunately that did not work.  I transferred all 2300 media files from the 
 FTM folder I have into â€¦.\Legacy Family Tree\Media as you suggested.  I 
 then ran the Relinker tool but still get this message â€œThere are no Media 
 files in this family file.â€



 My FTM media is called â€œLatest Full Tree_Jul 15, 2008 Mediaâ€ and it is 
 off a folder called â€œFamily Tree Makerâ€ on my hard-drive.  First I copied 
 the â€œLatest Full Tree_Jul 15, 2008 Mediaâ€ folder to Legacy Family 
 Tree\Media and when that didnâ€™t work I deleted the folder and copied just 
 the 2300 media files.  But I still get the message â€œThere are no Media 
 files in this family file.â€



 This is the file structure I have after installing Legacy and importing my 
 tree from FTM:



 You mentioned a more complicated method???



 Thanks!



 Diane






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Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

On 09/01/2014 17:19, Brian/Support wrote:
 If the person is indexed under the name, incorrect as it may be, how
 will you find them again in other places which derive their data from
 the original place which contains the error without having recorded that
 spelling error as an AKA? Yes you said you put the name as it was
 recorded in the source transcription but the AKA is a more visible place
 to see that somewhere his name was recorded with that transcription error.

It may be more visible there, but in my view it implies that the person
WAS KNOWN by that different version of the name, which is not so.

I have one instance in my database where a whole family was listed in
the Census with the wrong surname.  (Probably an error of the Enumerator
made when copying from the original forms to the books which we see.)
It would cause no end of confusion if I implied that the Ashworths were
also known as the Birtwistles.  On the other hand, I have a family where
the father and several children were known for some years as Dinnage
rather than Pitt and so they have Dinnage recorded as an AKA.

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Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

On 09/01/2014 18:22, MikeFry wrote:
 This is a totally different question.   Ancestry.com is the worse.  If the 
 index
 says Joan Davis but I clearly see John Davies on the actual page, I record 
 the
 name as John Davies.  I don’t care what the indexer wrote. This happens all 
 the
 time.
 And without a correction to the transcription (which Ancestry_NEVER_  do) how 
 is
 someone else going to find the record?

The same way I found it!

I would record what I see on the image, not an incorrect transcription
made by someone else.  I also record the precise details of where the
record was found so anyone else wanting to find what I found can either
use the information I provide in my Source Citation or can search from
scratch the way I did, using wild cards, intelligent guesses,
imagination ... whatever it takes.

--
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RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

And without a correction to the transcription (which Ancestry _NEVER_ do) how 
is someone else going to find the record?

Probably the same way everybody else finds it--spelling the name correctly.  
That's how I found most of the records with misspelled names.  In a few cases, 
I didn't find the record and only found it by accident when looking for 
somebody else.  If the sources are cited properly, someone should be able to 
find the record again.  Just because an online indexer couldn't spell or was in 
a hurry, why should we list it wrong if an image clearly shows the correct 
spelling or a spelling variation?

Bill Boswell


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Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 1:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

On 2014/01/09 19:18, Michele/Support wrote:

 This is a totally different question.   Ancestry.com is the worse.  If the 
 index
 says Joan Davis but I clearly see John Davies on the actual page, I
 record the name as John Davies.  I don t care what the indexer wrote.
 This happens all the time.

And without a correction to the transcription (which Ancestry _NEVER_ do) how 
is someone else going to find the record?

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)




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[LegacyUG] Preferred child indictor

In Legacy 8, if I look at the Edit Children screen I can see the
asterisk to indicate the Preferred Child but in Family View the asterisk
is not showing, whether the children are in columns or scrolling list.

Is this a known bug?
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RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

I cannot create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination - 
The dialog box shows that I have three exporting choices under “Output format”, 
namely “Family Tree Maker” – “GEDCOM 5.5 (standard)” and “GEDCOM for FTM 16”.  
Below this there are boxes next to 7 items, namely:
•   Privatize living people
•   Include private facts
•   Include private notes
•   Include media files
•   Include tasks
•   Include charts, reports, and books
•   Include only items linked to selected individuals

When I choose “GEDCOM 5.5(standard)” the last 4 in the list are greyed out 
INCLUDING “include media files”. This also happens if I choose GEDCOM for FTM 
16.  I opened the GEDCOM for FTM 16 in Word and searched for some know media 
images as well as for the term 'jpg' and got nothing.  So the links are not 
included in this GEDCOM either I'm afraid.

Diane

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Sent: January-09-14 12:31 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

Create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination. That will 
include all the FTM information and give Legacy the maximum amount of data, 
including links to any media files you have linked in FTM.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 08-Jan-2014 5:03 PM, Diane Marcotte wrote:
 Hello,

 I just bought Legacy 8 and have found that my media files have not
 come across with the Gedcom file I made in FTM.  Can someone explain
 how I can get the media files - I have over 2300 of them!

 Many thanks!!

 Diane



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RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

All I know is the media links from FTM to Legacy worked using FTM 2014 to 
export a GEDCOM so Diane might have to upgrade or try the instructions I gave 
in another post.

I noticed in my test that I had to choose FTM 16.  It might work choosing one 
of the other FTM versions, but I didn't try.  If exporting to just a GEDCOM 
only, the media links don't transfer over.

Bill Boswell

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Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 1:40 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8


I don't know about FTM, but Ancestry flat out states that media from 
trees there will not be included in there gedcoms and that seems to include 
media links.  Perhaps in FTM they can sync media from Ancestry but 2009 seems 
way before the time that feature was added.  So there may be neither media or 
media links.

Pres




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RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

I’m afraid that is not the answer.  My only choice to make a “GEDCOM for FTM16” 
and when I checked it in Word it did not include either the media files or 
links to the files.  As with the “GEDCOM 5.5” option the box to include media 
files was greyed out.



However I did try it and imported the “GEDCOM for FTM16” into Legacy but no 
media files are found.



Diane



From: Leon Chapman [mailto:chap...@gmail.com]
Sent: January-09-14 1:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8



Diane:


Brian has the correct answer.

Create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination. That
will include all the FTM information and give Legacy the maximum amount
of data, including links to any media files you have linked in FTM.

Chap




___
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On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:

Create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination. That
will include all the FTM information and give Legacy the maximum amount
of data, including links to any media files you have linked in FTM.


Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 08-Jan-2014 5:03 PM, Diane Marcotte wrote:
 Hello,

 I just bought Legacy 8 and have found that my media files have not come
 across with the Gedcom file I made in FTM.  Can someone explain how I can
 get the media files - I have over 2300 of them!

 Many thanks!!


 Diane



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Re: [LegacyUG] Preferred child indictor

2014-01-09 Thread Virginia Dunham

Jenny,
The asterisk for Preferred Child is showing on my Family View screen.
(have latest build of Legacy)

Virginia


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.ukwrote:

 In Legacy 8, if I look at the Edit Children screen I can see the
 asterisk to indicate the Preferred Child but in Family View the asterisk
 is not showing, whether the children are in columns or scrolling list.

 Is this a known bug?
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Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

2014-01-09 Thread singhals

Brian/Support wrote:

 recorded in the source transcription but the AKA is a more visible place
 to see that somewhere his name was recorded with that transcription error.

Do I actually /want/ 36 variant surname spellings to be
more visible in reports that cover 328 people would be a
question to consider, though.


Cheryl



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RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

Maybe FTM 2009 doesn't have the capability to export links in a GEDCOM.  All I 
know is the current version of FTM will do it if the links in your FTM data 
file are actually linked.  You have to select your destination as FTM after 
selecting GEDCOM 5.5 otherwise it won't work.  I selected FTM 16 and it worked.



You might have to upgrade to the latest FTM version, but prior to doing so I 
would make sure your images in FTM are actually linked to people.  There's no 
sense spending money on an upgrade if it doesn't work either because nothing is 
linked.



I opened the GEDCOM I exported from FTM using Wordpad then searched for .jpg. 
 This is an example of what it found:  FILE H:\Genealogy\Prog Backups\FTM 
2014\Data\Boswell Ltd4 Media\302-04.jpg



Bill Boswell



From: Diane Marcotte [mailto:dianemarco...@bell.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 2:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8



I’m afraid that is not the answer.  My only choice to make a “GEDCOM for FTM16” 
and when I checked it in Word it did not include either the media files or 
links to the files.  As with the “GEDCOM 5.5” option the box to include media 
files was greyed out.



However I did try it and imported the “GEDCOM for FTM16” into Legacy but no 
media files are found.



Diane



From: Leon Chapman [mailto:chap...@gmail.com]
Sent: January-09-14 1:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8



Diane:


Brian has the correct answer.

Create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination. That
will include all the FTM information and give Legacy the maximum amount
of data, including links to any media files you have linked in FTM.

Chap







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RE: [LegacyUG] Preferred child indictor

It's part of Options -  Customize 3.8.

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Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:56 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Preferred child indictor

In Legacy 8, if I look at the Edit Children screen I can see the asterisk to 
indicate the Preferred Child but in Family View the asterisk is not showing, 
whether the children are in columns or scrolling list.

Is this a known bug?
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Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

2014-01-09 Thread Virginia Dunham

Diane,

Have you tried posting your problem on the FTM Message Board on Ancestry?
There appears to be several discussions regarding the transfer of media
files via a gedcom from FTM.  (Make you sure mention which FTM program you
have.)

Virginia


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Diane Marcotte dianemarco...@bell.netwrote:

 I’m afraid that is not the answer.  My only choice to make a “GEDCOM for
 FTM16” and when I checked it in Word it did not include either the media
 files or links to the files.  As with the “GEDCOM 5.5” option the box to
 include media files was greyed out.



 However I did try it and imported the “GEDCOM for FTM16” into Legacy but
 no media files are found.



 Diane



 *From:* Leon Chapman [mailto:chap...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* January-09-14 1:17 PM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8



 Diane:


 Brian has the correct answer.


 Create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination. That
 will include all the FTM information and give Legacy the maximum amount
 of data, including links to any media files you have linked in FTM.

 Chap


 ___
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 -



 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 wrote:

 Create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination. That
 will include all the FTM information and give Legacy the maximum amount
 of data, including links to any media files you have linked in FTM.


 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 On 08-Jan-2014 5:03 PM, Diane Marcotte wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I just bought Legacy 8 and have found that my media files have not come
  across with the Gedcom file I made in FTM.  Can someone explain how I can
  get the media files - I have over 2300 of them!
 
  Many thanks!!
 

  Diane



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RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

2014-01-09 Thread CE WOOD

But whether AKAs print in reports is up to you because it is an option.

CE

 From: singh...@erols.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs
 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 14:22:23 -0500

 Brian/Support wrote:

  recorded in the source transcription but the AKA is a more visible place
  to see that somewhere his name was recorded with that transcription error.

 Do I actually /want/ 36 variant surname spellings to be
 more visible in reports that cover 328 people would be a
 question to consider, though.

 Cheryl

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Re: [LegacyUG] Preferred child indictor

On 09/01/2014 19:33, Kurt Kneeland wrote:
 It's part of Options -  Customize 3.8.

Thanks, Kurt!  I must have not thought to check the options, seeing that
the asterisk was displaying  on the Edit Child screen and presuming that
I had selected an option for that.

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RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

2014-01-09 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot

I was going to say “good point” to Cheryl’s comment but your response is even 
“gooder”. Legacy makes these things all so flexible for the user. Just gotta 
love a program that does that!

From: CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

But whether AKAs print in reports is up to you because it is an option.

CE

 From: singh...@erols.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs
 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 14:22:23 -0500

 Brian/Support wrote:

  recorded in the source transcription but the AKA is a more visible place
  to see that somewhere his name was recorded with that transcription error.

 Do I actually /want/ 36 variant surname spellings to be
 more visible in reports that cover 328 people would be a
 question to consider, though.

 Cheryl

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

Choose the Family Tree Maker Format Option. Then those other choices
should no longer be greyed out.

Brian
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On 09-Jan-2014 1:57 PM, Diane Marcotte wrote:
I cannot create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination -
The dialog box shows that I have three exporting choices under â€œOutput
formatâ€, namely â€œFamily Tree Makerâ€ â€“ â€œGEDCOM 5.5 (standard)â€ and
â€œGEDCOM for FTM 16â€. Below this there are boxes next to 7 items, namely:
â€¢ Privatize living people
â€¢ Include private facts
â€¢ Include private notes
â€¢ Include media files
â€¢ Include tasks
â€¢ Include charts, reports, and books
â€¢ Include only items linked to selected individuals

When I choose â€œGEDCOM 5.5(standard)â€ the last 4 in the list are greyed
out INCLUDING â€œinclude media filesâ€. This also happens if I choose
GEDCOM for FTM 16. I opened the GEDCOM for FTM 16 in Word and searched
for some know media images as well as for the term 'jpg' and got nothing. So
the links are not included in this GEDCOM either I'm afraid.

Diane

-Original Message-
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Sent: January-09-14 12:31 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

Create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination. That will
include all the FTM information and give Legacy the maximum amount of data,
including links to any media files you have linked in FTM.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 08-Jan-2014 5:03 PM, Diane Marcotte wrote:
Hello,

I just bought Legacy 8 and have found that my media files have not
come across with the Gedcom file I made in FTM. Can someone explain
how I can get the media files - I have over 2300 of them!

Many thanks!!

Diane

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Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date

Just a different way to keep something that has been available a long
time. In 7.5 and earlier that box opened when you clicked on the date in
the bottom of the screen. In 8.0 the date is no longer on screen so the
hotspot box was added as a trigger point.

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On 08-Jan-2014 8:31 AM, Rich Schram wrote:
 Wow, that's freaky. Never knew it was there. Is this a new v8 feature? It's 
 kind on an Easter egg. It'd be nice if there were something visible, an icon 
 or something, to alert folks it exists.

 Rich Schram
 Geneva, IL  60134-1830

 rich.schram...@gmail.com
 -Original Message-
 From: MikeFry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 2:14 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date

 On 2014/01/08 09:59, Boyd Miller wrote:
 Where do I find the Last Modified Date for an individuals data?

 The Help file is no help in its text because the date is not where it
 says - bottom right hand corner - and it uses a Legacy 7.5 screen shot
 which is no longer

 The Help File is very accurate on this subject. Use the Index, and enter 
 'modified' as the keyword. Top of the list should be the Modified Date topic.
 Select it. Reference in bottom left of topic is 8-1052.

 Hover the mouse over the extreme right-hand, bottom corner - on the blank 
 area - a box shows. Click on it.

 --
 Regards,
 Mike Fry
 Johannesburg (g)



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RE: [LegacyUG] To-Do Items

2014-01-09 Thread robs_familytree .

Brian:

It's also missing from the title bar of the Assigned Sources (just noticed 
this). Are you able to have this reinstated also?

Thanks,

Rob Miller


 From: br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] To-Do Items
 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 13:23:59 -0500

 I have input a suggestion to our enhancements list to have the Name/Rin
 reinstated either in the title bar or in the header of the screen.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


 On 08-Jan-2014 3:32 PM, robs_familytree . wrote:
  In To-Do Items, v7.5 used to list the name of the person, RIN#, and number 
  of To-Do Items on the title bar:
 
  i.e. To-Do Item: Robert Miller [1] (1)
 
  Version 8 is missing all the personal information (shows only has To-Do 
  Item). I don't remember seeing this discussed. Having the personal 
  information listed is a real time saver.
 
  Does anyone else have this issue?
 
  I'm using 367 version of Legacy 8.
 
  Thanks!
 
  Rob Miller
 
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

2014-01-09 Thread Michele/Support

I do :)  It gives me a better idea of what the person actually went by.


Michele
Technical Support
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From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 12:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

I’m wondering if all those that responded saying that they record every AKA 
along with the source where they found it really mean that they record every 
common variation of a name. What I mean specifically if someone’s given name 
was Robert,  do they record an instance of Bob, and Bobbie, and Rob, and 
Robbie. If the name was Franklin, do they record Frank and Frankie? So far I’ve 
tended to ignore these common variations as additional AKAs and have only 
recorded the unusual ones such as “Stretch”, “Slim”, “Bones”, etc. It just 
seems to me that if you record each and every instance of a spelling variation 
that you find, you end up with a family file that is grossly inflated in sheer 
numbers. I guess what I’m getting at is there has to be a little common sense 
applied here. For example, if you do a search for someone named Robert on 
FamilySeach, it will automatically include all those common variations to 
include Rob, Bob, etc.


Brian in CA




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RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

Thanks Virginia… I just did that.  Diane

From: Virginia Dunham [mailto:geistdn...@gmail.com]
Sent: January-09-14 2:33 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

Diane,

Have you tried posting your problem on the FTM Message Board on Ancestry?  
There appears to be several discussions regarding the transfer of media files 
via a gedcom from FTM.  (Make you sure mention which FTM program you have.)

Virginia

On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Diane Marcotte dianemarco...@bell.net wrote:

I’m afraid that is not the answer.  My only choice to make a “GEDCOM for FTM16” 
and when I checked it in Word it did not include either the media files or 
links to the files.  As with the “GEDCOM 5.5” option the box to include media 
files was greyed out.

However I did try it and imported the “GEDCOM for FTM16” into Legacy but no 
media files are found.

Diane

From: Leon Chapman [mailto:chap...@gmail.com]
Sent: January-09-14 1:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

Diane:

Brian has the correct answer.

Create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination. That
will include all the FTM information and give Legacy the maximum amount
of data, including links to any media files you have linked in FTM.

Chap

___
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On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:

Create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination. That
will include all the FTM information and give Legacy the maximum amount
of data, including links to any media files you have linked in FTM.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 08-Jan-2014 5:03 PM, Diane Marcotte wrote:
 Hello,

 I just bought Legacy 8 and have found that my media files have not come
 across with the Gedcom file I made in FTM.  Can someone explain how I can
 get the media files - I have over 2300 of them!

 Many thanks!!

 Diane

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Re[2]: [LegacyUG] AniMap

2014-01-09 Thread Sentz

Thanks Brian

-- Original Message --
From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: 1/9/2014 4:29:36 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AniMap

Like Legacy, Animap is a Windows program. You may be able to run it on
a
Mac using any of the virtual machine options which you use for running
Windows and Windows programs. Bootcamp, Parallels, VMWare etc.

No guarantees and if you want more/better information contact GoldBug
Software the authors of Animap. They would best be able to help you
with
questions concerning their program.

Their website is at http://www.goldbug.com.

Brian
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On 09-Jan-2014 3:33 PM, Sentz wrote:
  It's my understanding that AniMap, sold on Legacy, is only for the
PC.
  Does anyone know whether there is a way to use this software on a
MAC?

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[LegacyUG] Tagging marriages

2014-01-09 Thread Bernd Hornung

I would like to tag all direct ancestor marriages to tagged 8th and 9th
generation grandparents.  I have them tagged #1 and have a search list.

Is there a way to use this to tag the intervening marriages as marriage
tag #1.  This presumes that the tags are different between general and
marriage tags.  If not I can use a different tag #.

I would like to use the tags as a research guide and not have to work
down the marriage list (8400) one by one, not knowing right off, which
are direct ancestors and which are 5th cousins 5x removed.

Any pointers to directions or assistance is appreciated.

Thanks

Bernie
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RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

If I choose the Family Tree Maker option it is not a GEDCOM that is created but 
a backup of my FTM tree.

Diane

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: January-09-14 3:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

Choose the Family Tree Maker Format Option. Then those other choices should no 
longer be greyed out.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 09-Jan-2014 1:57 PM, Diane Marcotte wrote:
 I cannot create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination - 
 The dialog box shows that I have three exporting choices under â€œOutput 
 formatâ€, namely â€œFamily Tree Makerâ€ â€“ â€œGEDCOM 5.5 (standard)â€ and 
 â€œGEDCOM for FTM 16â€.  Below this there are boxes next to 7 items, namely:
 â€¢   Privatize living people
 â€¢   Include private facts
 â€¢   Include private notes
 â€¢   Include media files
 â€¢   Include tasks
 â€¢   Include charts, reports, and books
 â€¢   Include only items linked to selected individuals

 When I choose â€œGEDCOM 5.5(standard)â€ the last 4 in the list are greyed 
 out INCLUDING â€œinclude media filesâ€. This also happens if I choose 
 GEDCOM for FTM 16.  I opened the GEDCOM for FTM 16 in Word and searched 
 for some know media images as well as for the term 'jpg' and got nothing.  So 
 the links are not included in this GEDCOM either I'm afraid.

 Diane

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 Sent: January-09-14 12:31 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to
 Legacy8

 Create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination. That will 
 include all the FTM information and give Legacy the maximum amount of data, 
 including links to any media files you have linked in FTM.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 On 08-Jan-2014 5:03 PM, Diane Marcotte wrote:
 Hello,

 I just bought Legacy 8 and have found that my media files have not
 come across with the Gedcom file I made in FTM.  Can someone explain
 how I can get the media files - I have over 2300 of them!

 Many thanks!!

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RE: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages

Marriage Tags and Individual Tags are separate.  Unfortunately, there is not 
yet an advanced tagging function for the Marriage Tags.  They can only be 
turned on/off one at a time.

Best I can think of is to use advanced tagging to tag your direct ancestors 
(exclude siblings, etc, and limit to the desired number of generations.

You can then create a search list based on that tag and perhaps limit the 
search list to just the males.  Then you could go through that search list to 
set the marriage tags.


-Original Message-
From: Bernd Hornung [mailto:ber@telus.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 3:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages

I would like to tag all direct ancestor marriages to tagged 8th and 9th 
generation grandparents.  I have them tagged #1 and have a search list.

Is there a way to use this to tag the intervening marriages as marriage tag #1. 
 This presumes that the tags are different between general and marriage tags.  
If not I can use a different tag #.

I would like to use the tags as a research guide and not have to work down the 
marriage list (8400) one by one, not knowing right off, which are direct 
ancestors and which are 5th cousins 5x removed.

Any pointers to directions or assistance is appreciated.

Thanks

Bernie
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RE: [LegacyUG] Adding USA to Locations

2014-01-09 Thread Don Hanson

Thanks Kurt.
Don Hanson

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 It is already reported as fixed for the next release.

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

2014-01-09 Thread Leon Chapman

Diane:
I am not sure you have specified which version of FTM you have?
They all work a little different and have different options.
Chap

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On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Diane Marcotte dianemarco...@bell.netwrote:

 If I choose the Family Tree Maker option it is not a GEDCOM that is
 created but a backup of my FTM tree.

 Diane

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 Sent: January-09-14 3:20 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

 Choose the Family Tree Maker Format Option. Then those other choices
 should no longer be greyed out.

 Brian
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 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


 On 09-Jan-2014 1:57 PM, Diane Marcotte wrote:
  I cannot create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the
 destination - The dialog box shows that I have three exporting choices
 under â€œOutput formatâ€ , namely â€œFamily Tree Makerâ€  â€“ â€œGEDCOM 5.5
 (standard)â€  and â€œGEDCOM for FTM 16â€ .  Below this there are boxes next
 to 7 items, namely:
  â€¢   Privatize living people
  â€¢   Include private facts
  â€¢   Include private notes
  â€¢   Include media files
  â€¢   Include tasks
  â€¢   Include charts, reports, and books
  â€¢   Include only items linked to selected individuals
 
  When I choose â€œGEDCOM 5.5(standard)â€  the last 4 in the list are
 greyed out INCLUDING â€œinclude media filesâ€ . This also happens if I
 choose GEDCOM for FTM 16.  I opened the GEDCOM for FTM 16 in Word and
 searched for some know media images as well as for the term 'jpg' and got
 nothing.  So the links are not included in this GEDCOM either I'm afraid.
 
  Diane
 
  -Original Message-
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  Sent: January-09-14 12:31 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to
  Legacy8
 
  Create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination. That
 will include all the FTM information and give Legacy the maximum amount of
 data, including links to any media files you have linked in FTM.
 
  Brian
  Customer Support
  Millennia Corporation
  br...@legacyfamilytree.com
  http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
 
  On 08-Jan-2014 5:03 PM, Diane Marcotte wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I just bought Legacy 8 and have found that my media files have not
  come across with the Gedcom file I made in FTM.  Can someone explain
  how I can get the media files - I have over 2300 of them!
 
  Many thanks!!
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

She's using the 2009 version.  I just installed it to test and she is right.  
There are no options for exporting to a GEDCOM that will include the links to 
her image files.  She would need a later version.  The only one I know that 
will do it is FTM 2014 if exported properly.



Bill Boswell



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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
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Diane:

I am not sure you have specified which version of FTM you have?

They all work a little different and have different options.

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to tell where a source file is located?

2014-01-09 Thread Cathy Pinner

Dave,

The text file of missing media given to you by the Media Relinker or
by clicking Test all Media Folders button at Options  Customise 6.2
and then checking Make a list of all missing media  includes the
path of the missing media as well as the name.

You need to keep checking that - though it may be time to rethink how
you file your media and then let the Media Relinker find the file.

Cathy

At 12:37 AM 10/01/2014, you wrote:
I continue to reclaim my lost census records and link them with the
relinker.  Sometimes it is not clear whether they should be located
in the county folder or the city folder.  I have learned how to
discover the name of the lost file.  Is there a way to discover
where Legacy is expecting to find the file - so I can put the
reclaimed copy in the correct file the first time?

Dave




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RE: [LegacyUG] Lumping vs. Splitting

2014-01-09 Thread lio .

Jenny:

1. As I mentioned when I started my family tree I didn't source my documents (I 
never in a million years thought it would get as big as it is, and did not 
understand why it was so important).

I'm now trying to redo my tree, but this time sourcing each documents (I do 
have copies of every document, and written on the back the day I accessed it, 
etc.).

My method of splitting is taking me WAY too long to redo. I'm thinking lumping 
will save me a huge amount of time.

Can I ask you (and any other lumpers).

*I* transcribe the complete document and copy to the Master Text. I then copy 
pertinent parts of the Master Text to the Detail Text depending on what I want 
to prove. (VERY time consuming, but I liked that if forced me to analyze the 
document).

*You* transcribe the complete document, but instead of having it in the Master 
text you have the complete transcription in the Detail text. Is that right? 
Everyone using that Source has the complete transcription.

2. Comparing your method to Shared Events, your method seems more exact (and 
transferable by GEDCOM) is the only plus of Shared Events that it would be 
faster?

Thanks again for your direction,

leo

 From: ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Lumping vs. Splitting
 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:57:02 +

 On 26/12/2013 16:16, lio . wrote:
  1. When you source a document, where do you put the transcription - in
  the Master Text, or in the Detail Text?

 Being a lumper (which is actually correct practice for a relational
 database, although I don't always carry it to the full extent which I
 should) I put transcriptions in the Source Detail because that is where
 they are relevant.

 For example, I have a Master Source for  Birth Certificates from the
 GRO.  A transcription and an image of the Certificate are attached to
 the Source Detail wherever a particular Certificate is cited.  Another
 example, I have a Master Source for the Book Monumental Inscriptions of
 the British West Indies.  I attach a transcription and image of the
 relevant entry to the Source Detail whenever an entry from that book is
 cited.

  2. Are you using the new Shared Events feature? Any issues?

 I haven't fully explored this feature yet, but I don't think I will be
 using it.   Using the Birth Certificate example, I have the Birth as a
 Vital Event for the child and I create an Informant Event for the person
 who registers the Birth, citing the Birth Certificate as a Source for
 both Events and for other information such as the parents' names.  For a
 Census, I create an Event which has each person's details in the Desc
 field and a listing of all the members of the household in the Notes
 field.  I am very happy with this arrangement and don't see how a Shared
 Event could improve on it.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Lumping vs. Splitting

2014-01-09 Thread lio .

David:

Thank you very much for the explanation. That really helped make it clearer for 
me. I'm now teetering on switching over to lumping and using shared events 
(from splitting and creating separate events).

As I'm playing catch-up I think using the shared events will help me in the 
time required (much faster to click a few boxes, instead of creating separate 
events and sourcing them).

Although I prefer like Jenny's method, I think I need to focus on completing 
the project in a timely manner, and once everything has been re-input and 
properly sourced I can go back and create separate events for key people.

Thanks (I'm mostly talking out loud I guess).

Leo

 From: davidnew...@drdavid.plus.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Lumping vs. Splitting
 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 11:52:37 +

 I think that one advantage of shared events comes from the fact that you
 only have one copy of each piece of citation data. As far as I can tell
 the Legacy database is not normalized in the sense that it is easily
 possible to take, for example, a citation and copy rather than link it
 into several places. At this point the citations become independent so
 that a correction made to one is not automatically made to the other
 copies. In my opinion there should be two possibilities once you have a
 citation on the clip board - copy or link. So if you intend to use the
 citation as the basis for a new citation you copy but if you want to
 re-use the same citation exactly then you link.

 The linking mechanism to some extent already exists since media is
 generally linked without making multiple copies.

 David

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 the threads though the archive so this may not thread correctly. If it
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Re: [LegacyUG] Possible bug with FS Numbers/ID

Confirmed. Problem report raised to have this fixed. To reset the
display you just need to close and restart Legacy that is a lot easier
than generating new web pages without FSID. It will occur if you create
any sort of report with FS ID included.

Brian
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On 09-Jan-2014 1:04 AM, Kurt Kneeland wrote:
 I thought I was reading you wrong when you said creating web pages had an 
 impact on what was displayed on the Legacy Family View.  But it does.  I was 
 able to reproduce it.  Definitely a bug.



 I was able to temporarily turn the FSID off using 8.2, but when I tried to 
 re-enable the RIN, the FSID came back on also.  Had to first run Pedigree Web 
 Pages without FSID.  Then could get 8.2 FSID off and RINs on.



 Have you tried with any of the other Web Page Styles (Ancestor, Family, 
 Descendant, Individual) to see if the same thing happens?





 From: Bryan Pratt [mailto:brya...@slingshot.co.nz]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 9:03 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Possible bug with FS Numbers/ID



 In Legacy8  I use family view for display with RINâ€™s as an extra ID 
 attached to the name, (i.e. 8.2 on Customize has the text boxes checked, plus 
 RINâ€™s checked).



 I also have the FS Number added after the Burial line as an option on my 
 display which makes it easier to relate to FS itself.



 In Legacy, when I generate a pedigree webpage through the Internet tab, with 
 FS numbers selected to be included, I also get the FS numbers added to the 
 name in the family view on Legacy.



 So for example instead of having a family view name display of Bryan Pratt 
 [1] (as checked in options), I get a display of  Bryan Pratt [1] [XWYZ-123] 
 plus I still have the same FS ID underneath the burial line - well not quite 
 for me yet!.

 The only way I can get rid of the excessive numbering is to regenerate my 
 internet pedigree page with FS ID (under What tab) unchecked.



 However that numbering is too overwhelming both on my Legacy and on the 
 internet.



 But on the internet pedigree view it also provides the FS number as a bullet 
 point immediately following life event details and in a much more presentable 
 place. That would be much more acceptable.



 Any thoughts or should I refer this through as a bug?



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RE: [LegacyUG] Lumping vs. Splitting

2014-01-09 Thread Cathy Pinner

Hi Leo,
I'm not Jenny and haven't read the whole thread - but if you can put
the transcription in the Master Source text, then you are almost an
extreme splitter.
For example: I have a Census source for each year for each country.
(most of my research is in the UK) But even if I had one for each
county in the US for each year, I'd hardly transcribe the whole
census for the county and put it in the Master Source Text. ;-)

I rarely use the Master Source Text. I used to for certificates when
I had very few certificates and I saw each one as a separate source -
but now I have a Master Source for certificates from a particular
Registry Office and the transcription again goes into the source detail text.

So the only sources with Master Source text or images are those for
unique items - like a particular Family Bible.

Cathy

At 07:41 AM 10/01/2014, you wrote:
Jenny:

1. As I mentioned when I started my family tree I didn't source my
documents (I never in a million years thought it would get as big as
it is, and did not understand why it was so important).

I'm now trying to redo my tree, but this time sourcing each
documents (I do have copies of every document, and written on the
back the day I accessed it, etc.).

My method of splitting is taking me WAY too long to redo. I'm
thinking lumping will save me a huge amount of time.

Can I ask you (and any other lumpers).

*I* transcribe the complete document and copy to the Master Text. I
then copy pertinent parts of the Master Text to the Detail Text
depending on what I want to prove. (VERY time consuming, but I liked
that if forced me to analyze the document).

*You* transcribe the complete document, but instead of having it in
the Master text you have the complete transcription in the Detail
text. Is that right? Everyone using that Source has the complete transcription.

2. Comparing your method to Shared Events, your method seems more
exact (and transferable by GEDCOM) is the only plus of Shared Events
that it would be faster?

Thanks again for your direction,

leo

  From: ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Lumping vs. Splitting
  Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:57:02 +
 
  On 26/12/2013 16:16, lio . wrote:
   1. When you source a document, where do you put the transcription - in
   the Master Text, or in the Detail Text?
 
  Being a lumper (which is actually correct practice for a relational
  database, although I don't always carry it to the full extent which I
  should) I put transcriptions in the Source Detail because that is where
  they are relevant.
 
  For example, I have a Master Source for Birth Certificates from the
  GRO. A transcription and an image of the Certificate are attached to
  the Source Detail wherever a particular Certificate is cited. Another
  example, I have a Master Source for the Book Monumental Inscriptions of
  the British West Indies. I attach a transcription and image of the
  relevant entry to the Source Detail whenever an entry from that book is
  cited.
 
   2. Are you using the new Shared Events feature? Any issues?
 
  I haven't fully explored this feature yet, but I don't think I will be
  using it. Using the Birth Certificate example, I have the Birth as a
  Vital Event for the child and I create an Informant Event for the person
  who registers the Birth, citing the Birth Certificate as a Source for
  both Events and for other information such as the parents' names. For a
  Census, I create an Event which has each person's details in the Desc
  field and a listing of all the members of the household in the Notes
  field. I am very happy with this arrangement and don't see how a Shared
  Event could improve on it.
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages

2014-01-09 Thread CE WOOD

To get a complete picture, you also need to do the paragraph 3 search for 
females. There are more marriages where the ancestry of the wife is unknown, 
but there are several in my 100+ generations where the ancestry of the husband 
is unknown. To be thorough, do both.

Considering the number of generations I and others have, I do hope Legacy will 
soon include the ability to tag Marriage Tags to accommodate tracing.

CE

 From: kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages
 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:22:49 -0600

 Marriage Tags and Individual Tags are separate.  Unfortunately, there is not 
 yet an advanced tagging function for the Marriage Tags.  They can only be 
 turned on/off one at a time.

 Best I can think of is to use advanced tagging to tag your direct ancestors 
 (exclude siblings, etc, and limit to the desired number of generations.

 You can then create a search list based on that tag and perhaps limit the 
 search list to just the males.  Then you could go through that search list to 
 set the marriage tags.


 -Original Message-
 From: Bernd Hornung [mailto:ber@telus.net]
 Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 3:43 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages

 I would like to tag all direct ancestor marriages to tagged 8th and 9th 
 generation grandparents.  I have them tagged #1 and have a search list.

 Is there a way to use this to tag the intervening marriages as marriage tag 
 #1.  This presumes that the tags are different between general and marriage 
 tags.  If not I can use a different tag #.

 I would like to use the tags as a research guide and not have to work down 
 the marriage list (8400) one by one, not knowing right off, which are direct 
 ancestors and which are 5th cousins 5x removed.

 Any pointers to directions or assistance is appreciated.

 Thanks

 Bernie


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RE: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages

2014-01-09 Thread David Abernathy

“in my 100+ generations”

That is a bit to many, I think you need to do another count?

That is back to the BC time period?



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From: CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 4:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages



To get a complete picture, you also need to do the paragraph 3 search for 
females. There are more marriages where the ancestry of the wife is unknown, 
but there are several in my 100+ generations where the ancestry of the husband 
is unknown. To be thorough, do both.

Considering the number of generations I and others have, I do hope Legacy will 
soon include the ability to tag Marriage Tags to accommodate tracing.


CE


 From: kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages
 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:22:49 -0600

 Marriage Tags and Individual Tags are separate. Unfortunately, there is not 
 yet an advanced tagging function for the Marriage Tags. They can only be 
 turned on/off one at a time.

 Best I can think of is to use advanced tagging to tag your direct ancestors 
 (exclude siblings, etc, and limit to the desired number of generations.

 You can then create a search list based on that tag and perhaps limit the 
 search list to just the males. Then you could go through that search list to 
 set the marriage tags.


 -Original Message-
 From: Bernd Hornung [mailto:ber@telus.net]
 Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 3:43 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Tagging marriages

 I would like to tag all direct ancestor marriages to tagged 8th and 9th 
 generation grandparents. I have them tagged #1 and have a search list.

 Is there a way to use this to tag the intervening marriages as marriage tag 
 #1. This presumes that the tags are different between general and marriage 
 tags. If not I can use a different tag #.

 I would like to use the tags as a research guide and not have to work down 
 the marriage list (8400) one by one, not knowing right off, which are direct 
 ancestors and which are 5th cousins 5x removed.

 Any pointers to directions or assistance is appreciated.

 Thanks

 Bernie



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RE: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

Chap I have version FTM2009 and it does not have the necessary features that 
FTM2014 has.  Diane

From: Leon Chapman [mailto:chap...@gmail.com]
Sent: January-09-14 5:48 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

Diane:

I am not sure you have specified which version of FTM you have?

They all work a little different and have different options.

Chap

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On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Diane Marcotte dianemarco...@bell.net wrote:

If I choose the Family Tree Maker option it is not a GEDCOM that is created but 
a backup of my FTM tree.

Diane

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]

Sent: January-09-14 3:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to Legacy8

Choose the Family Tree Maker Format Option. Then those other choices should no 
longer be greyed out.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 09-Jan-2014 1:57 PM, Diane Marcotte wrote:
 I cannot create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination - 
 The dialog box shows that I have three exporting choices under â€œOutput 
 formatâ€ , namely â€œFamily Tree Makerâ€  â€“ â€œGEDCOM 5.5 (standard)â€  and 
 â€œGEDCOM for FTM 16â€ .  Below this there are boxes next to 7 items, namely:
 â€¢   Privatize living people
 â€¢   Include private facts
 â€¢   Include private notes
 â€¢   Include media files
 â€¢   Include tasks
 â€¢   Include charts, reports, and books
 â€¢   Include only items linked to selected individuals

 When I choose â€œGEDCOM 5.5(standard)â€  the last 4 in the list are greyed 
 out INCLUDING â€œinclude media filesâ€ . This also happens if I choose 
 GEDCOM for FTM 16.  I opened the GEDCOM for FTM 16 in Word and searched 
 for some know media images as well as for the term 'jpg' and got nothing.  So 
 the links are not included in this GEDCOM either I'm afraid.

 Diane

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]

 Sent: January-09-14 12:31 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to get FTM media files to export to
 Legacy8

 Create a GEDCOM for FTM with Family Tree Maker as the destination. That will 
 include all the FTM information and give Legacy the maximum amount of data, 
 including links to any media files you have linked in FTM.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 On 08-Jan-2014 5:03 PM, Diane Marcotte wrote:
 Hello,

 I just bought Legacy 8 and have found that my media files have not
 come across with the Gedcom file I made in FTM.  Can someone explain
 how I can get the media files - I have over 2300 of them!

 Many thanks!!

 Diane

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