Nikkud on QT will get fixed in the next version
Hi, While currently no longer a list member, I am sending you this bessorah tovah: The annoying OOo nikud bug exists also in QT based apps, even as they are not dependent on each other AFAIK. After some bug reporting here http://bugs.kde.org/process_bug.cgi , I sent a bug report to Trolltech, who responded with: Indeed, we've been able to reproduce this using the regular textedit example distributed with Qt. We'll see if we can fix this for the next patch release of Qt. [snip] Thanks for this spdy reply. No problem, internationalization is a pretty important part of Qt, so thanks for the detailed description. Cheers and thanks for our dedicated friends at Trolltech! AF -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Genius Videocam Express
On Monday 29 December 2003 15:16, Shlomo Solomon wrote: Since no-one answered my original question, I'll ask another. Can anyone recommend a CHEAP (no more than 100 shekels) Webcam that works in LINUX? Don't know what the price is in Israel, but I am using a cheap webcam, the Logitech quickcam express. It works as expected using a driver that isn't yet (well, I didn't try a 2.6 kernel yet) in the standard distros, but available on Sourceforge. Arie PS to all: a few weeks ago I was trying to get help on a font problem (thread name was problem with kde's font handling) and then the thread died without me finding a solution. Anyone out there who'd like to try to help me on that? -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Handhelds question
Are there any handhelds that use unicode? Does the Sharp Zaurus support Hebrew? How is the sincynk of the Sharp Zaurii with Linux (I remember reading that there were issues with it). Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Document managment and workflow
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 14:39, Yishay Mor wrote: CVS would be nice if I could get people to use normal editors with normal formats (read *ML) Mainly for myself, and some startups I work with. I didn't follow the entire discussion, so forgive me if this software has already been ruled out. Try Kaspalist http://kaspaliste.sourceforge.net/ Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem with kde's font handling
I installed a new user account on my box to see if my personal settings are causing KDE not to print TT fonts such as Times New Roman, and it didn't help. I can, however, print with non TT fonts such as Bitstream's serif font (called Times?). Anyway, so I tried to uninstall one problematic font, Times New Roman, from the systemwide settings, and reinstall it as a local font, and that didn't do it, either. So, I am left with the conclusion that somehow, on my system, for an as yet unknown reason, Fedora's KDEGhostscript dislikes some or all TT fonts and thus doesn't want to print them. Help! Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: document organization system
On Friday 05 December 2003 10:51, Aaron wrote: Hmm, just what I need for my projects, did you try the download?? Is it at all usable?? Aaron No, I never did. I was waiting for it to become more mature. Arie -- If an important person, out of humility, does not want to rely on [the Law, as applicable to his case], let him behave as an ascetic. However, permission was not granted to record this in a book, to rule this way for the future generations, and to be stringent of one's own accord, unless he shall bring clear proofs from the Talmud [to support his argument]. paraphrase of Rabbi Asher ben Ye'hiel, as quoted by Rabbi Yoel Sirkis, Ba'h, Yoreh De'ah 187:9, s.v. Umah shekatav. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: document organization system
On Friday 05 December 2003 12:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a couple of days ago Magnolia 1.0 was announced. It's still not there, but they list WebDAV first in their roadmap. (which was just what I would look at to get what you want) http://www.obinary.com/en/magnolia.html Magnolia is a CMS, not a database layer between the filesystem and the X apps. Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: document organization system
On Friday 05 December 2003 11:47, Gad wrote: Isn't that the same idea as WinFS (planned for the next big version of Windows) and GNUFS? GNUwhat? I googled and got nothing useful. Could you enlighten us, please? Arie -- If an important person, out of humility, does not want to rely on [the Law, as applicable to his case], let him behave as an ascetic. However, permission was not granted to record this in a book, to rule this way for the future generations, and to be stringent of one's own accord, unless he shall bring clear proofs from the Talmud [to support his argument]. paraphrase of Rabbi Asher ben Ye'hiel, as quoted by Rabbi Yoel Sirkis, Ba'h, Yoreh De'ah 187:9, s.v. Umah shekatav. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem with kde's font handling
On Saturday 13 December 2003 02:38, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: OpenOffice uses a rather independent fonts configuration. What about gtk2 programs? What about abiword (uses Xft, but independently of of gtk)? gnumeric? Abiword is OK, perfect with both Hebrew and English, although it doesn't handle niqud properly. * My locale includes ctype=he_IL.utf8 and thus I can print Hebrew from kde apps. try changing that to 'he_IL.UTF-8' , just in case the case matters here I had that originally, but once I upgraded to Fedora, KDE stopped to print Hebrew characters, so I guessed that the locale wasn't read properly. I did locale -a and saw that it is all lowercase and without dash, so I tried that and found out that Fedora likes its locales lowercased. What now? -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: document organization system
On Friday 05 December 2003 11:43, Yishay Mor wrote: I think Zope's CMF might do that for you. I don't know too much about it though, because I use it candy-wrapped in plone.. Zope is something you include in your apps, IOW a rapid application development thingy, not something that provides an alternative to the current way of storing things in a hierarchical directory system. IOW, you could use Zope to implement this idea, but is it being done in the same way as newdocms? (then again, I am not sure that I described Zope properly) Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
document organization system
Hi, I returned to a site that once impressed me, only to find out development stopped (http://m-arriaga.net/software/newdocms/). I wonder if other people are working on similar project. Googling and searching freshmeat did not turn up productive results. Anybody can provide further pointers to similar projects? The idea is to organize documents in a database rather than using a directory system, so that there would be multiple ways to search for documents. This, of course, doesn't require a roject, it can be implemented with any SQL database. The smart thing is that it then becomes accessible from all applications, iow it looks and feels almost like a file system, but is really a database. One could then search for that formatted document that reported on the 2002 conference somewhere in Hawai or California where the words drumstick appeared in twice, for example. This can now only be done by running find and waiting forever, while the suggested system would hold some metadata that would make searching faster (with the disadvantage that at filing time the user has to supply the metadata. But that's not so bad as some file types don't allow for easy integration of metadate. Pictures and pdfs are good examples, although I could also think of archived web pages and more.) Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problem with kde's font handling
My fonts (incl. TT fonts from MS) seem properly installed, as a host of applications use them, yet, although I can display all kind of fonts in kde apps, they will only print in one font, no matter my settings. The font is an unidentified sans serif font (perhaps Arial, as I can also print Hebrew, and didn't install Culmus). OOo is will to print in other fonts, as well, although it get picky with Hebrew when printing directly. PDFs by OOo are always OK, whereas pdfs by KOffice have the same problems as the printed pages. In short: * I use kde 3.1.4 on fedora with the latest stable koffice (1.2.x). The fonts are those that are necessarily on the system plus some ms webfonts. OOo is 1.1.0-6. * All desired fonts can be used in just about any application on screen, so the fonts seem properly installed. * My locale includes ctype=he_IL.utf8 and thus I can print Hebrew from kde apps. * qtconfig was used to check embed fonts when printing. * Why won'r kde print with anything else then that sans serif font? * I wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (IIRC) about the OOo issues, but got no response yet. I am, however, not asking about it now, I merely mentioned it as it shows where the fonts do and where they don't work. My guess is that it may have something to do with the lack of afm files for the TT fonts, so that ghostscript can't handle it. Yet, the font directory with the TT fonts is recognized by the KDE font installer (installed as root), so those files should exist. OOo may use its own, ghostscript-independent system for generating the PDFs, which is why those are not affected. Thanks for any help, Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IGLU FAQ and Hebrew keyboard layouts
On Sunday 30 November 2003 18:40, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: As of XFree 4.3 the Xkb can mix-and-match Groups. Up until 4.2.1 the il layout had to assume the the Israeli group will be the second group and that the first group will be US-English (see the xkb/symbols/il of XFree 4.1.0 - 4.2.1 as to exactly why also US). In XFree 4.3 you ask for a layout of us,il and it is translated to a layout with the Groups us and il. You can have il,us,ru if you want. I don't understand. What is the different between a group, a variant and a keyboard layout? (I thought that group = general keyboard layout, while variant was, different variants on the general kind of keyboard layout, i.e. the group. But now you speak of a whole group, which I don't understand, since if I use lyx, I don't use si1452 and vice versa, so what changed in XFree86 3.2? Plus, couldn't we have had 3 layouts concurrently in the past?) So what's the difference between lyx and si 1452? Mainly: in lyx the special characters are all (except the hyphen) in shifted Hebrew letters, instead of the capital English letters. In si1452 the added characters reside in a third shift level of the Israeli layout, and nikud characters are generally on the keyboard keys of the numbers. Thanks for clearing this up. Could anybody post a graphical representation of these keyboard layouts to IGLU? Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IGLU FAQ and Hebrew keyboard layouts
On Sunday 30 November 2003 10:12, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: What do you mean by 4 layouts? 4 variants. I assume that the difference is in the layout of certain non Alephbetic keys. As you use Fedora Core 1, you use XFree 4.3. Therefore you can easily use one of the two variants of the il layout. either lyx or si1452 allows inserting nikud chars. So what's the difference between lyx and si 1452? Is this clearer now? Yes, I know where to look for niqud (but don't have a clue yet as to what sign is where. I'll discover that soon). Arie -- If an important person, out of humility, does not want to rely on [the Law, as applicable to his case], let him behave as an ascetic. However, permission was not granted to record this in a book, to rule this way for the future generations, and to be stringent of one's own accord, unless he shall bring clear proofs from the Talmud [to support his argument]. paraphrase of Rabbi Asher ben Ye'hiel, as quoted by Rabbi Yoel Sirkis, Ba'h, Yoreh De'ah 187:9, s.v. Umah shekatav. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IGLU FAQ and Hebrew keyboard layouts
Hi, I followed the recent discussion about developments in the IGLU FAQ, and wonder whether somebody could expand on the 4 different keyboard layouts (in fact, this needs to be integrated into the KDE help, too). I know that there are different layouts, but don't have the slightest clue as to what the difference between them is. In particular, I have no idea how to get niqud under Linux (I rarely use it, when I do, I am forced to use the insert character kind of options of either KDE or OOo). Thanks for the good work, FAQ authors, Arie Folger -- If an important person, out of humility, does not want to rely on [the Law, as applicable to his case], let him behave as an ascetic. However, permission was not granted to record this in a book, to rule this way for the future generations, and to be stringent of one's own accord, unless he shall bring clear proofs from the Talmud [to support his argument]. paraphrase of Rabbi Asher ben Ye'hiel, as quoted by Rabbi Yoel Sirkis, Ba'h, Yoreh De'ah 187:9, s.v. Umah shekatav. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fedora core 1 - openoffice 1.1.0-6 Hebrew
Hi, I just upgraded from RH9 to Fedora Core 1 (FC1?) and whereas my experience has been wonderful so far, I found the following two issues: * LPRng disappeared, replaced by CUPS. OK, I don't mind CUPS, except that it didn't support my printer until I found out the following: My printer, an HP LJ 1150, cannot be installed using redhat-config-printer, but needs to be installed using the web interface, instead. Why? (redhat-config-printer does otherwise a nice job with SAMBA printers and with restarting the daemon and with printing test pages, so it isn't allergic to CUPS). Of course, I had to manually change the entry in rc?.d from lpd to cups. * worse than the above is that the supplied version of OOo, 1.1.0-6, doesn't seem to do Hebrew. I tested with the installed-from-tarball 1.1.0, and the latter still works 100%, Hebrew and all, but not so the one that is shipped. Changing locale doesn't make a difference. Anybody else experience similar issues? Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fedora core 1 - openoffice 1.1.0-6 Hebrew
On Thursday 27 November 2003 18:33, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Arie Folger wrote: * worse than the above is that the supplied version of OOo, 1.1.0-6, doesn't seem to do Hebrew. I tested with the installed-from-tarball 1.1.0, and the latter still works 100%, Hebrew and all, but not so the one that is shipped. Changing locale doesn't make a difference. Anybody else experience similar issues? Did you try to explicitly enable complex text layout? Shachar I am using the same dot file directory for both versions (actually, neither is now working, and I am struggling to figure out why. I can't open any document. Either I get the choose filter dialog, after which, OOo invariably dies, or I get the empty window that replaces the StarOffice desktop, and no matter what I choose, it won't open a file. Either it is unresponsive, or it brings that same filter chooser dialog up), so there should be no difference. Arie -- If an important person, out of humility, does not want to rely on [the Law, as applicable to his case], let him behave as an ascetic. However, permission was not granted to record this in a book, to rule this way for the future generations, and to be stringent of one's own accord, unless he shall bring clear proofs from the Talmud [to support his argument]. paraphrase of Rabbi Asher ben Ye'hiel, as quoted by Rabbi Yoel Sirkis, Ba'h, Yoreh De'ah 187:9, s.v. Umah shekatav. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOLVED: fedora core 1 - openoffice 1.1.0-6 Hebrew
I deleted all traces of my openoffice installation as far as my homedir goes, and ran setup from the rpm installed version, and lo and behold, everything is all right now. Hebrew works, German works (including umlauts, i.e. , and regardless of locale setting, which was an issue in 1.1.0-RC3). Thanks for your tips, guys, Arie -- If an important person, out of humility, does not want to rely on [the Law, as applicable to his case], let him behave as an ascetic. However, permission was not granted to record this in a book, to rule this way for the future generations, and to be stringent of one's own accord, unless he shall bring clear proofs from the Talmud [to support his argument]. paraphrase of Rabbi Asher ben Ye'hiel, as quoted by Rabbi Yoel Sirkis, Ba'h, Yoreh De'ah 187:9, s.v. Umah shekatav. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mixed hebrew english table of contents and index in latex
This sounds suspiciously like a bug I found lately in LyX and emailed to Dekel Tsur IIRC. He will be working on it, but was a bit busy lately, so it could take a few weeks. I would email him your file, so that he can see another example of the problem. Mine was with Hebrew quotes. You could switch back to an older version of LyX (1.2.x), but then you'll have to comile from sources. Otherwise, there is a workaround that I can't quite remember. Arie On Thursday 13 November 2003 00:47, Micha Feigin wrote: When I try to get the table of contents in latex and there are both english and hebrew headers I get the english headers as hebrew letters instead of english. Same for index entries and if I recall correctly also for bibliography items. Is it possible to fix this? I am currently using lyx for latex but I can enter the code manually if there is a way to bypass this. In addition to the above, When I try to get an english table of contents in a hebrew document I just get errors. I am using the debian unstable ivritex package, in case I should switch. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xterm and hebrew
On Sunday 16 November 2003 11:13, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: You can use mlterm, xiterm (xterm with Sun's i18n code), konsole or gnome-terminal if you want bidi support. Konsole has bidi support? that's new to me. I always need to see my konsole Hebrew text backwards. = Teminal output = [EMAIL PROTECTED] afolger]$ locale LANG=he_IL.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=he_IL.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=he_IL.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=de_CH.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8 LC_PAPER=de_CH.UTF-8 LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8 LC_ADDRESS=de_CH.UTF-8 LC_TELEPHONE=de_CH.UTF-8 LC_MEASUREMENT=de_CH.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8 LC_ALL= [EMAIL PROTECTED] afolger]$ === end output Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dream Distribution
On Friday 31 October 2003 01:18, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Culmus Koffice 1.2.1 KDE 1.3.4 Pine Has a license issue. Thus it is not exactly part of debian. I believe that it is in a process of being dropped-of from other distros: Is it in recent RedHats? Can you elaborate what those issues are? Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OOo and niqud
I use OOo 1.1rc3. It is great, except niqud is out, and I can't paste Hebrew from KDE apps. Any idea if or when these issues have been/will be fixed? Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOLVED: OOo with Hebrew and accented characters
Hi, I use OOo in a non-Hebrew locale (en_US.utf-8) and although I can use Hebrew (and if CTL is set in the options, I even can choose the paragraph direction properly), I had trouble with accented characters. This problem happens because the locale is not fully recognized. Instead of eu_US.utf-8, I now use en_US without specifying the character set, and voil, the accented characters can be typed in from a KDE-configured keyboard. Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email
So what is it I should do? And who is blacklisted, I or my ISP? (I am, as I stated earlier, on a private IP from an ADSL router - that does have a public IP - connected to an ISP. My box is a plain vanilla RH9.) Arie Folger On Tuesday 21 October 2003 03:59, Boris Ratner wrote: I happen to stumble across the AOL antispam policies several times all large Israeli (might be international as well) ISPs suffer from those. Arie Folger wrote: We discussed this matter in the past, that AOL decided no longer to accept mail from servers that relay mail freely or have open proxies. The funny thing is that I am on a private network, and should therefore not be visible to the outside world, definitely not as a mail server. So, am I right to conclude that this complaint of AOL's is directed towards my ISP? Or is it towards the ADSL router of ours? -- If an important person, out of humility, does not want to rely on [the Law, as applicable to his case], let him behave as an ascetic. However, permission was not granted to record this in a book, to rule this way for the future generations, and to be stringent of one's own accord, unless he shall bring clear proofs from the Talmud [to support his argument]. paraphrase of Rabbi Asher ben Ye'hiel, as quoted by Rabbi Yoel Sirkis, Ba'h, Yoreh De'ah 187:9, s.v. Umah shekatav. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: extracting text from a pdf.
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 09:57, Dekel Tsur wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 09:25:27AM +0200, Arie Folger wrote: How can I extract text from a pdf not using Adobe Acrobat Reader? And if the file is password protected? You can use xpdf or pdftotext. I couldn't find such an option on the GUI of xpdf. Care to elaborate? Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
extracting text from a pdf.
How can I extract text from a pdf not using Adobe Acrobat Reader? And if the file is password protected? Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux support for following webcams
I saw that before posting, but it doesn't list Webcams I can buy here (most models are outdated, as these things change really fast). Thanks, however, Arie PS: two list members mailed me privately that the Logitech Quickcam works on their machine. On Sunday 05 October 2003 22:41, Meir Kriheli wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 05 October 2003 12:45, Arie Folger wrote: are the following webcams supported under linux? Note that I googled but found nothing on these models: * Logitech QuickCam Express USB W32 * Labtec Webcam USB I have no idea what kind of chipsets are in there, and do not have the option of trying before I buy. Thanks for the tips, Arie I have no experience with webcams, but maybe this'll give you a headstart: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ - -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems http://www.mksoft.co.il -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/gIIbRkS5DWK1mZkRAoRxAKCp1Zfsgq1UevNvM2aTqvOVyIuIzgCeNi/V dMNieS0CbkRBQfwDab0wF/c= =JP/K -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- If an important person, out of humility, does not want to rely on [the Law, as applicable to his case], let him behave as an ascetic. However, permission was not granted to record this in a book, to rule this way for the future generations, and to be stringent of one's own accord, unless he shall bring clear proofs from the Talmud [to support his argument]. paraphrase of Rabbi Asher ben Ye'hiel, as quoted by Rabbi Yoel Sirkis, Ba'h, Yoreh De'ah 187:9, s.v. Umah shekatav. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice BiDi kudos
Is it possible to set paragraph direction when in a non Hebrew locale? (i.e., when in LOCALE en_US, even when I force OOwriter to display the paragraph direction button, it is grayed out. When I start OO in a Hebrew locale, it defaults all paragraphs to RTL, which is not what I want.) Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
linux support for following webcams
are the following webcams supported under linux? Note that I googled but found nothing on these models: * Logitech QuickCam Express USB W32 * Labtec Webcam USB I have no idea what kind of chipsets are in there, and do not have the option of trying before I buy. Thanks for the tips, Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenOffice 1.1 in Hebrew locale shows everything right to left
Hi, I just installed OO 1.1 besides my existing 1.0, and to my horror, documents created in 1.0 show up a bit differently in 1.1 (bad for documents where graphic layout is important, such as Impress or Draw documenst with lots of text boxes). Even worse, all the paragraphs are right to left, even though they don't contain Hebrew text. Kword's system of determining paragraph direction by looking at the first character of the paragraph is a lot more sensible. Clicking on left justify won't help, since the punctuation assumes that the text is right to left (e.g., a colon at the end of a sentence appears at the left and not the right of the text. So, if one wants to use old soffice docs, one would need to either manually reset the paragraph direction for every text box (good luck). Isn't there a better way to keep the old documents useful without this excessive work? Another solution is to keep using the old OO for those docs, but the new OO is so much faster and better... (pdfs are finally ok even from OO Draw) TEMPORARY FIX: So far, I have solved both issues by setting LANG='en_US.utf-8' which works, even though I get the error message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] afolger]$ LANG='en_US.utf-8' .openoffice/soffice I18N: X Window System doesn't support locale LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf-8;LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8;LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8; LC_COLLATE=en_US.utf-8;LC_MONETARY=de_CH.UTF-8;LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8; LC_PAPER=de_CH.UTF-8;LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8;LC_ADDRESS=de_CH.UTF-8; LC_TELEPHONE=de_CH.UTF-8;LC_MEASUREMENT=de_CH.UTF-8; LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8 Usually, my locale is [EMAIL PROTECTED] afolger]$ locale LANG=he_IL.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=he_IL.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=he_IL.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=de_CH.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8 LC_PAPER=de_CH.UTF-8 LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8 LC_ADDRESS=de_CH.UTF-8 LC_TELEPHONE=de_CH.UTF-8 LC_MEASUREMENT=de_CH.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8 LC_ALL= Now which locales are acceptable to OO? Note that it doesn complain about my usual locale, just behaves funny. Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
why are some pdfs by OOo not readable by adobe acrobat?
I produced a landscape document with OOo Draw, and although gv will display the document, kghostview and acroread won't. A pdf that non Linuxers can't read kind of defeats the purpose of creating the pdf in the first place, does it?;-) Why is that pdf considered corrupted by acroread and kghostview? what can I do about it? I am using OOo 1.0.2-4 that came with RH9.0. Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: konqueror not embedding pdf reader
On Sunday 17 August 2003 20:27, Oded Arbel wrote: Oh, mistakingly I thought you were using kghostview. I don't know if kpdf is embedable at all (me thinks its not). Sorry, my mistake. I am using kghostview. This is what happens when clicking to often rather than using the CLI :-( Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: konqueror not embedding pdf reader
On Friday 15 August 2003 12:52, Oded Arbel wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 12:09, Arie Folger wrote: I am using KDE 3.1.3, and I noticed that when clicking on a hyperlink to a pdf document, (a) konqueror does not embed the document, but spawns a regular copy of kpdf, and (b) lately, even that has not worked, as kpdf waits forever to download the document, but never succeeds. as for (b) - check your proxy settings and try to save as the pdf - it will give you some hints as to what the problem is. I don't use a proxy. Save as works just fine. Left clicking, however (or right clicking and opening), spawns kpdf, a dialog box, and ... nothing. Arie -- If an important person, out of humility, does not want to rely on [the Law, as applicable to his case], let him behave as an ascetic. However, permission was not granted to record this in a book, to rule this way for the future generations, and to be stringent of one's own accord, unless he shall bring clear proofs from the Talmud [to support his argument]. paraphrase of Rabbi Asher ben Ye'hiel, as quoted by Rabbi Yoel Sirkis, Ba'h, Yoreh De'ah 187:9, s.v. Umah shekatav. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
konqueror not embedding pdf reader
I am using KDE 3.1.3, and I noticed that when clicking on a hyperlink to a pdf document, (a) konqueror does not embed the document, but spawns a regular copy of kpdf, and (b) lately, even that has not worked, as kpdf waits forever to download the document, but never succeeds. Any tips, especially for (b)? Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLVED (part 2): problems with printing system
On Tuesday 29 July 2003 00:52, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 10:06:38PM +0200, Arie Folger wrote: Now I still 'd like to figure out why went wrong with the updated glibc (glibc-2.3.2-27.9) that trashed my system, leading to the whole mess in the first place. Where is it from? Did you upgrade anything else in the process? I upgraded peacemeal. The rpm came from the redhat mirror at sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch -- If an important person, out of humility, does not want to rely on [the Law, as applicable to his case], let him behave as an ascetic. However, permission was not granted to record this in a book, to rule this way for the future generations, and to be stringent of one's own accord, unless he shall bring clear proofs from the Talmud [to support his argument]. paraphrase of Rabbi Asher ben Ye'hiel, as quoted by Rabbi Yoel Sirkis, Ba'h, Yoreh De'ah 187:9, s.v. Umah shekatav. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problems with printing system
Yesterday, I reinstalled my RH9.0 from scratch (because the old setup went kaput when I installed an updated glibc ... go figure. Caused segmentation faults and nothing worked afterwards, and even with rescue disk, nothing could seemingly be done to get it going again. The RPM database had been corrupted somehow, and refused service. Anybody had that, too?) and now I can't install printers. OK, I still have my backup from /etc, but look at this strange problem: First, LPRng is on the system, and won't go away, even though I have cups: [EMAIL PROTECTED] afolger]# rpm -e LPRng failed to read link /usr/bin/lpr: No such file or directory error: %preun(LPRng-3.8.19-3.1) scriptlet failed, exit status 2 Then, redhat-switch-printer won't switch to cups: [EMAIL PROTECTED] afolger]# redhat-switch-printer failed to read link /usr/bin/lpr: No such file or directory failed to read link /usr/bin/lpr: No such file or directory Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/sbin/printconf-backend, line 7, in ? import backend File /usr/share/printconf/util/backend.py, line 48, in ? which = cups_import.which_spooler () File /usr/share/printconf/util/cups_import.py, line 195, in which_spooler return which UnboundLocalError: local variable 'which' referenced before assignment (the above happened after the dialog showed up, I clicked on the cups radio button and I then clicked apply or ok) Finally, it is entirely impossible to start redhat-config-printer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] afolger]# redhat-config-printer failed to read link /usr/bin/lpr: No such file or directory Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/sbin/redhat-config-printer, line 9, in ? import queueTree File /usr/share/printconf/util/queueTree.py, line 927, in ? queueTree() File /usr/share/printconf/util/queueTree.py, line 101, in __init__ if cups_import.import_needed (): File /usr/share/printconf/util/cups_import.py, line 200, in import_needed which = which_spooler () File /usr/share/printconf/util/cups_import.py, line 195, in which_spooler return which UnboundLocalError: local variable 'which' referenced before assignment I have never seen these errors before and googling led nowhere, but it surely looks like a conspiracy when three programs band against me ;-) I am using RH9.0 with all available updates except for glibc which is not the latest update since that one made my system crash in the first place (see top of message). Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOLVED (partly): problems with printing system
On Monday 28 July 2003 09:52, Arie Folger wrote: Yesterday, I reinstalled my RH9.0 from scratch (because the old setup went kaput when I installed an updated glibc ... go figure. Caused segmentation faults and nothing worked afterwards, and even with rescue disk, nothing could seemingly be done to get it going again. The RPM database had been corrupted somehow, and refused service. Anybody had that, too?) and now I can't install printers. I still don't know what went wrong with the upgraded glibc, and didn't hear yet from others who may have installed it. Please let me know your experience with it. First, LPRng is on the system, and won't go away, even though I have cups: [EMAIL PROTECTED] afolger]# rpm -e LPRng failed to read link /usr/bin/lpr: No such file or directory error: %preun(LPRng-3.8.19-3.1) scriptlet failed, exit status 2 Problem remains However, the two problems below where solved when I copied the contents of my backed up /etc/alternatives to the current /etc/alternatives, which was empty. This brings up one of my pet peeves with RedHat. It is not the first time that something of the sort happens. Particularly annoying is the fact that on several versinos I noticed that S00killall and S01reboot/S01halt was missing in the /etc/rc6.d and /rc0.d, respectively. Result is, of course, a system that won't shut down. Thank God I know how to fix this, but I could easily imagine a newby getting quite stuck with this. Arie (below are the two problems solved above) Then, redhat-switch-printer won't switch to cups: [EMAIL PROTECTED] afolger]# redhat-switch-printer failed to read link /usr/bin/lpr: No such file or directory failed to read link /usr/bin/lpr: No such file or directory Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/sbin/printconf-backend, line 7, in ? import backend File /usr/share/printconf/util/backend.py, line 48, in ? which = cups_import.which_spooler () File /usr/share/printconf/util/cups_import.py, line 195, in which_spooler return which UnboundLocalError: local variable 'which' referenced before assignment (the above happened after the dialog showed up, I clicked on the cups radio button and I then clicked apply or ok) Finally, it is entirely impossible to start redhat-config-printer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] afolger]# redhat-config-printer failed to read link /usr/bin/lpr: No such file or directory Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/sbin/redhat-config-printer, line 9, in ? import queueTree File /usr/share/printconf/util/queueTree.py, line 927, in ? queueTree() File /usr/share/printconf/util/queueTree.py, line 101, in __init__ if cups_import.import_needed (): File /usr/share/printconf/util/cups_import.py, line 200, in import_needed which = which_spooler () File /usr/share/printconf/util/cups_import.py, line 195, in which_spooler return which UnboundLocalError: local variable 'which' referenced before assignment I have never seen these errors before and googling led nowhere, but it surely looks like a conspiracy when three programs band against me ;-) I am using RH9.0 with all available updates except for glibc which is not the latest update since that one made my system crash in the first place (see top of message). Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLVED (part 2): problems with printing system
On Monday 28 July 2003 21:44, Arie Folger wrote: First, LPRng is on the system, and won't go away, even though I have cups: [EMAIL PROTECTED] afolger]# rpm -e LPRng failed to read link /usr/bin/lpr: No such file or directory error: %preun(LPRng-3.8.19-3.1) scriptlet failed, exit status 2 Problem remains No longer. I checked, and all the rpm script wanted was those files in /etc/alternatives. IOW, once I solved the problem of the redhat-[switch¦config]-printer, LPRng was willing to disappear into the nothingness of rpm -e. Now I still 'd like to figure out why went wrong with the updated glibc (glibc-2.3.2-27.9) that trashed my system, leading to the whole mess in the first place. Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
system wide settings on KDE
Hi, I have a problem with kjots. It automatically becomes wider than the screen, and refuses to be resized. I found out that there is a setting in the kjots config file that specifies the width, and changed it ... to no avail. as soon as I restart kjots, the new value is replaced with the old value. I recall reading an article in late 2002 that it is possible to set certain values system wide, and avoid that users tamper with them. The problem is that I can neither find that article, nor find anything with google, and yet, I uspect that that kind of setting is responsible for my troubles. Any leads? Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Other Truetype fonts in RH9
I just upgraded to RH9, and although xfontsel will see my other, locally installed TT fonts, mainly MS webfonts, qt and kde will have none of it. How come? Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Other Truetype fonts in RH9
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 14:51, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Add those fonts to your fontconfig. Take a look at /etc/fonts/fonts.conf . See how existing directories are configured, and add. Though you should generqally change only /etc/fonts/local.conf Thanks. It worked, but I do wonder why ussuch a relatively complex system. I find the old plaintext so much more attractive. If we must have XML, shouldn't it come with a handy documentation and a tool to make editing easy AND A BIG FAT WARNING: YOUR EXISTING FONTSETTINGS WILL BE LOST. Or, for the ones who prefer small type, simply a conversion utility so that, the first time around, the info will be saved in a local.conf file. All the best, Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email
Hi, We discussed this matter in the past, that AOL decided no longer to accept mail from servers that relay mail freely or have open proxies. The funny thing is that I am on a private network, and should therefore not be visible to the outside world, definitely not as a mail server. So, am I right to conclude that this complaint of AOL's is directed towards my ISP? Or is it towards the ADSL router of ours? Also, I mailed them a complaint letter why they shouldn't maintain such a policy, but they didn't even bother to reply. Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
software for designing/managing forms with sql backend
I am looking for an easy way (similar to MSAccess) to create forms for mysql databases, and then to implement those forms. Same for reports. HTML/PHP/CGI is acceptable but not ideal, since I would like a slick printing engine. MySQL control center does not qualify because it is an administration tool, doesn't do forms and only does reports if they are written in raw SQL. Any tips? Freshmeat didn't show me what I wanted, or I must have missed something. Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew printing from KWord
On Tuesday 25 March 2003 14:26, Shachar Shemesh wrote: For the rest of us, this is what I did to solve the problem: Run the kcontrol, and go to Font Installer (it's under System Administration). Switch to administrator mode. On settings, Check (under AFMs) Generate with, and select iso8859-8. Make sure both TrueType and Type1 are checked. Go back to Fonts, and click the box that opens the directory where your fonts are installed. Go to kword, and marvel at the fact that it will now print Hebrew. Very wonderful... except my RH8.0 with KDE3.1 from the aptget for rpm repository (see sourceforge) does not include this font installer. Is it a separate package? Can it be called from the command line? While we are at this, is there any sane way to make the system arrange the k menu in a less RedHat/Gnome centric way? (yeah, I could redo the entire hierarchy, but next upgrade, the whole thing has to be redone, especially as apps sometimes change names, plus I don't want to lose the automatic inclusion in menu of rpm installed package) Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew printing from KWord
I checked, and this setting was already enabled. What now? On Monday 24 March 2003 19:58, shlomo solomon wrote: On the print dialog, click System options (at the bottom) and make sure you have chosen **Embed fonts in Postscript data when printinf**. I hope this helps. On Monday 24 March 2003 17:43, Arie Folger wrote: This came up a few times, but there seem to be two kinds of kword users on list, those who managed to make Hebrew print and those who didn't. I have enabled font embedding with qtconfig. I installed ms-webfonts Arial, Courier New, Times New Roman and Tahoma. I disabled font substitution of Arial by Helvetica, and ticked on the enable support for right to left languages. Yet, when printing or previewing print jobs, I get only the latin characters of the page, and the rest is whitespace. Did anybody who had the problem solve it? Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Palm+Outlook compatible PIM
Ok, I got evolution working again, and like some of its features while I bemoan the lack of unicode support. I will test it later today. Back to korganizer: I tried to import into outlook both a vcalendar and an icalender file exported by korganizer, and neither was accepted. Any clue why? Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Palm+Outlook compatible PIM
I am trying to cooperate with other fellows in this office. However, being the only Linux user, I haven't found yet a satisfying manner to share my calendar with the secretary, who uses Windows. I am using Korganizer, but will have no compunctions switching to evolution, if, by listmembers' recommendation, it is better suited to the task AND adequately supports Hebrew. I looked into the possibility of running my appointment calendar on a web server, but found nothing that can both import and export vcalendar. Finally, I'd like to share the info with my palm, which is possible with either korganizer or evolution, but is less obvious with other programs, especially if they don't use vcal. I was also looking into the possibility of running an LDAP server with the vcal on it, but it seems that ldap is used rather for contact databses, but not calendars. Oh, and if I get that choice, I'd like to be able to import more than one set of national holidays, one of which is the Jewish calendar. Any recommendations? Thanks, Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Palm+Outlook compatible PIM
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 13:04, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: kroupware will enable you to share the calendar, meeting bla bla. Yes, but what will I do until they produce something useable. Is there a temporary fix? I tried saving to vcal and emailing the file, but outlook on the other machine choked on it. I'll now try Ical and see. Also, is there a way to import cvs into korganizer? I must say, I just tried evolution and was not happy. Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Palm+Outlook compatible PIM
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 14:36, Aviram Jenik wrote: I was under the impression that you searched for a server-side solution; but if you're simply looking for a mail client that can send and receive appointment requests/responses from Outlook, evolution will do it quite seamlessly. However, it does not seem to support Hebrew at all. I would try it again- bediavad - but it suddenly refuses to start. says something about bonobo conf not starting. I deleted the dotfiles, to no avail. I'll try again tomorrow. It is just my secretary, my palm and my desktop that have to share. However, I did not specify the method. I am still considering a web based method, but found nothing yet in php that is polished enough to convince my secretary. Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew *.doc and e-mail experiment
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 11:29, shlomo solomon wrote: I received an attachment containig a Hebrew Word .doc file. Since I had to read it, I tried an experiment and it worked. Here's what I did. I first opened the file with OpenOffice. This is **not** the Hebrew version being developed, but straight out-of-the box snip I know this is not an ideal solution for Hebrew, but in an emergency, it works. FWIW. This solution is a better, though still cumbersome: open the file in OO, then save as html, and voila, including formatting. Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
latin keyboard layout - REPOSTED
A while ago I aksed the following question, but got no answer. This is becoming very important: I need to use umlauted (for German) and accented (for French) characters. I have no desire to learn a radically new keyboard layout; Qwerty and Israeli is enough for me. I found a keyboard layout's images here: http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/keyboards/latin.html The images show what happens when pressing Alt, Alt-Gr, CTRL, shift or no helper key. (One problem is that I have no idea how to make my keyboard have that Alt-Gr.) I played around with KDE's keyboard selector, but could not find what layout the web page's corresponds to. So... * Does anybody know of another keyboard layout that covers pretty much the same breadth of accented characters as the one on the web page above (I need umlauts and accents at the very least. All additional characters, such as copyright, trademark, ... are a boon), or * does anybody recognize which keyboard layout the web page displays and what setting I should use to replicate that under X? in the console? Finally, I was wondering about the model. I have my keyboard model set to generic 104 pc. However, my extra keyboard (primary keyboard is the laptop's builtin one, but I often use an external keyboard) has 107 keys, the 104 layout plus power, sleep and wake up keys, yet there is no 107 key layout. How do I make X recognize those keys exist (I will worry about mapping something to them later)? And I also notice that KDE insists that the left win key is a modifier. How do I change that key into a non modifier key? Thanks, Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
latin keyboard layout - (now with my correct email address for iglu)
Note: I seem to have some trouble with my email filter, and this is my third attempt to send this message. Hope it works now. I apologize if all attempts went through. Hi, I am moving (closer to Israel) from the US to Switzerland and will need to use umlauted (for German) and accented (for French) characters. I have no desire to learn a radically new keyboard layout; Qwerty and Israeli is enough for me. I found a couple of keyboard layout images here: http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/keyboards/latin.html and I played around with KDE's keyboard selector, but could not find what layout the web page's corresponds to. So... * Does anybody know of another keyboard layout that covers pretty much the same breadth of accented characters as the one on the web page above (I need umlauts and accents at the very least. All additional characters, such as copyright, trademark, ... are a boon), or * does anybody recognize which keyboard layout the web page displays and what setting I should use to replicate that under X? in the console? Finally, I was wondering about the model. I have my keyboard model set to generic 104 pc. However, my extra keyboard (primary keyboard is the laptop's builtin one, but I often use an external keyboard) has 107 keys, the 104 layout plus power, sleep and wake up keys, yet there is no 107 key layout. How do I make X recognize those keys exist (I will worry about mapping something to them later)? And I also notice that KDE insists that the left win key is a modifier. How do I change that key into a non modifier key? Thanks, Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
video file formats kino
Hi, I have been experimenting with kino a bit, and noticed that some of the supposedly available mpeg export formats (DivX, generic MPEG2 and possibly more) are not available. I assume I am missing some libraries, but do not have the slightest clue asto which ones. The manual doesn't say anything about them. Any tips? -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange file permission problem
On Thursday 19 December 2002 11:19, shlomo solomon wrote: I have a strange problem. Actually, I've solved it, but I don't like the solution and I don't like not knowing what's causing it. So maybe someone can help. snip The problem is that every so often (I don't know when it happens), the permission becomes 600 and non-root users can no longer read the file. There are also some gz files in the /var/log/mylogs directory (created by logrotate). The same thing happens to their permissions too. My solution was simple - run a cron job to reset the permissions for all files in the directory to 644. But, although that works, it seems strange that **something** is changing the permissions back to 600. PAM does that. Read the various settings under /etc/pam.d I had a similar problem with certain device files, until I discovered that the settings were reset (as part of devfs, IIRC) and would best be set using pam.d settings. Oh, the documentation is not for the faint of heart, but once you can pinpoint a troublesome line and RTFM, I am sure some list members will gladly help you out.;-) Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where did my dv device go?
Hi, I have a digital video camera with a firewire port, and my laptop is equiped with one, as well. The port of the laptop is supported under Linux (we discussed this one about 8-9 months ago on list), and the modules load properly. I tried to use dvgrab to capture a movie I made, but had no success. I did take care to first load the raw1394 module (otherwise dvgrab issues error messages), and started dvgrab as root (since root wons the requisite device file), but dvgrab remains silent. I played with the options, including options suggested by the man page, to no avail. Since I recall that in the RH7.3 days I managed to capture some video with dvgrab and the very same hardware, I decided to test the hardware using my dedicated hardware testing platform (windoze millenium), and everything worked (except for the software, which, since it uses too many cpu cycles for the gui and displaying the image as it records, could not record all frames on disk... Millenium headache. Wait, it is Sony software supposedly made for that laptop, and it finds the machine it was supposedly tweaked for too slow?!). So now, why doesn't dvgrab work? If it doesn't work, why doesn't it complain using some error message? Ergo, it theoretically works, but something is wrong. Help. BTW, I alreadyt tried fiddling with the cables. I am now using RH8.0. Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLUTION: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen
I wrote: I did not try reinstalling RH7.3, but got it right anyway, although only with mplayer. Well, this is incorrect. This is what happens when you leave a message a little too long in the drafts folder. I did install a RedHat 7.3 partition, which was important in discovering what software cases the problem. However, as I indicated further in the post, I found out all I needed to do was copy one file, and voila, all dvd playing software plays correctly, now. Cheers, Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOLUTION: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen
I did not try reinstalling RH7.3, but got it right anyway, although only with mplayer. The problem (for future reference, for google searches): I installed xine, videolan::client (vlc), ogle and mplayer, all from freshrpms.net, all for RedHat 8.0. All dependency problems where solved. However, when I tried to play DVDs, instead of getting a normal image, I saw only half the image. The half image was displayed twice, in the same window, and the two copies where of differing quality. All DVD playing software mentioned above showed the same problem. The reason: Somehow they all try to display using the XV video output driver, which, on my machine, seems not to work (I am eager to know if yours works and if you know why mine doesn't). The SOLUTION: copy /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/trident_drv.o (or whatever driver you use. The problem seems restricted to the trident card) from a RH7.3 partition to your RH8.0 system. Note: the problem has been diagnosed on Gentoo as well, so it is not a RH only issue. Thank Chris Frey for the solution. Arie Folger = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: External USB cd writers for Linux
On Tuesday 03 December 2002 14:41, Mark Veltzer wrote: Can anybody recommend any that are known to work well under Linux ? I used somebody else's PlexWriter USB CD writer, and it worked out of the box using RH 7.3 and RH 8.0 (it's a 4x drive). I may have gotten the full name wrong, but it's definitely PlexWriter and it's USB. Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fetchmailconf
Hi, RH used to include a program called fetchmailconf to configure fetchmail. However, it is missing in RH8.0. I guess I could reinstall it from RH7.3, but I wonder why the package has gone missing. I also wonder how to implement a setting that would collect all users' mail when the dial up connection goes up. The settings are to be found in each user's .fetchmailrc. Arie Folger -- Happy user of fetchmail = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
netscape plugins in Mozilla
Hi, I have some netscape plugins which netscape used to use, and indeed konqueror happily makes use of them, but now that I use mozilla instead of netscape, mozilla no longer recognizes them. I figure that the plugins have to be in a different directory, or there must be a certain variable I can set to include the old path, but which one? Additional question: I often notice a complain about the browser being unable to load the right plugin for a file ending in .swf. Is that a Macromedia Shockwave file? Doesn't exist for Linux, too bad if its indeed a Shockwave file. Also: what is the difference between flash and shockwave? Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Writing Mixed Hebrew/English Documents on Linux
On Thursday 28 November 2002 10:18, Shlomi Fish wrote: What I need is: 1. Ability to convert to logical HTML (very important). 2. Ability to produce PDF (not necessarily the best PDF) 3. Ability to be inputted into Word somehow (I guess it can input any HTML document that is valid enough). Use lyx (http://www.lyx.org) with Dekel Tsur's Hebrew support. As for html export, I have a working solution, though it is not a release worthy solution. I am working with the current maintainer of latex2html to fully incorporate necessary changes so that in the future the conversion will happen out of the box. My custom solution is using version 0.99 (or is it 1999? I am not sure) of latex2html, admittedly an old version, which is precisely why it supports Hebrew: it doesn't know how to mess up. I then use a perl script to change certain tags so that the encoding and paragraph direction is properly set. However, my solution only works if all paragraphs are right to left, as I am not including magic to figure this out. Contact me off list for more details. Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Writing Mixed Hebrew/English Documents on Linux
On Thursday 28 November 2002 11:58, voguemaster wrote: Have you tried LyX with the Heb-LaTeX and the necessary KB bindings etc.. ?? It can export to pdf and html, although I'm not sure how well the html would look in different browsers (I haven't tried it yet). See my post you should have gotten a few minutes ago. Currently the html export is broken for Hebrew. I am contributing to its fixing. I also have a temporary solution. Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Writing Mixed Hebrew/English Documents on Linux
On Thursday 28 November 2002 18:31, voguemaster wrote: Another thing is, is it possible to do double-column documents (such as in many academic papers) ?? I'm assuming it can, but I haven't found anything on this in the user guide. You can. IIRC you need to click on Layout-Document or Paragraph and you can select columns there. However, Hebrew is not supported, as the columns run left to right. This, BTW, is a TeX issue, not LyX. You also may want to subscribe to the lyx users mailing list to ask your question about floats, and then post your solution here. The LyX experts are really there. Arie (who loves LyX but would like it to support unicode) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla only sets utf-8 automatically on static html
On Tuesday 26 November 2002 10:54, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: You should look for HTTP headers, as those override the headers set in the file. Try, e.g. 'wget --server-resposne --O /dev/null http://server/page' Thanks. The header shows that the charset set in the header is indeed iso-8859-1 even as the html header specifies a utf-8 charset, and the different behaviour between mozilla and konqueror must be how they handle priority in case of conflict. What is the standard behaviour? IMO the konqueror behaviour, where html header supercedes the http header, makes more sense. What do you say? Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenWebMail Hebrew
On Monday 25 November 2002 09:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. What is the official name of the Logical hebrew encoding? Windows 1255 or ISO8859-8-i? ISO-8859-8-I. But a software package should be able to recognize WINDOWS-1255 as Hebrew as well for display purposes. Keep in mind that there is a (theoretical) small difference between the two: cp1255 supports nikud, while iso-8859-8-i does not. However, many software packages that claim to support cp1255 may not support nikud. Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mozilla only sets utf-8 automatically on static html
Hi, I am puzzled. I am using the latest RH stable mozilla (1.0.1-26), and noticed that dynamic (php) pages that are encoded in utf-8 (including the correct meta tag) are recognized as such by konqueror, but not by mozilla. However, if I save the page, and then view it with mozilla, the thing is displayed properly. Which leads me to believe that either php or apache (version 2) sends out an xml header that specifies the character set as iso-8859-1, and that such a header is only sent out for dynamic documents (hence my suspicion that php is guilty), and that the difference between konqueror and mozilla is what header they each give greater priority to. Anyway, I tried to find the myserious header as you can see below, but see nothing unusual: [afolger@localhost html]$ php index.php X-Powered-By: PHP/4.2.2 Set-Cookie: lang=english; expires=Wed, 26-Nov-03 15:08:52 GMT Content-type: text/html !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head titlePokeach Ivrim /title META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type CONTENT=text/html; charset=UTF-8 = OUTPUT TRUNCATED = I also tested with iso-8859-8-i static documents, and not surprisingly everything works. I have not yet tested mozilla with dynamic iso-8859-8-i documents, so I am not sure about that. I also used a simple cgi script in perl that echoes back the content of a form, and in that case, utf-8 was set properly, which kind of eliminates the apache theory. (script is attached) So is it Apache that sends out nasty stuff? php? mozilla is allergic to php? Any help? Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics foo.cgi Description: Perl program
Re: mozilla only sets utf-8 automatically on static html
On Tuesday 26 November 2002 11:45, Dvir Volk wrote: Maybe it has something to do with how this section of php.ini is configured in your case? ; As of 4.0b4, PHP always outputs a character encoding by default in ; the Content-type: header. To disable sending of the charset, simply ; set it to be empty. ; ; PHP's built-in default is text/html default_mimetype = text/html default_charset = iso-8859-1 I checked the php.ini file, and indeed, as I said, RH must have taken care of things, as the line in question was commented out (with a semicolon). Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kword not ready for [Hebrew] prime time yet
On Friday 22 November 2002 08:40, Lars Knoll wrote: KDE would really benefit from some developers speaking arabic and/or hebrew. I'm trying to ensure things are working for right to left languages, but I've got enough to do to ensure Qt and khtml/konqueror is working as it should. Well, to your credit, I must say that that component of kde works perfectly (although I did post a bug report a while ago, #47528, to whilch I never got a response. Other times I filed a bug report I got an answer within a few weeks). Long live konqueror! (also check out my bug report #50714, please) Cheers to Lars and to the kde team, Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kword not ready for [Hebrew] prime time yet
On Thursday 21 November 2002 01:50, Martin Polley wrote: It does #2 and #5 as well. Just enabling font embedding is not enough--you have to make the Hebrew fonts available to GhostScript. Why not, ghostscript has no problem printing Hebrew coming from konqueror or lyx, after all? Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kword not ready for [Hebrew] prime time yet
On Thursday 21 November 2002 09:53, Martin Polley wrote: It depends on the font. If it is a font that is already available to X apps AND to gs, no problem. If it is available to X and NOT to gs, then you need to make it available to gs. Arie Folger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Why not, ghostscript has no problem printing Hebrew coming from konqueror or lyx, after all? Hah, but in both cases we are talking about the same font, monotype Arial, which does contain the Hebrew codepage. You, OTOH, used times, which is not the same thing as times new roman. The former has only latin1 and may be latin2, while the latter is a unicode font covering much of the entire range (but I don't think it covers CJK codepages). So I am still puzzled. Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kword not ready for [Hebrew] prime time yet
On Thursday 21 November 2002 03:32, you wrote: Should I forward this to some kde developer? (Lars ... what's his email?) He's actually on this list ;-) snip Comments to some of your points (I have no idea about the others): 1* can produce ps 2* ps has embedded fonts Both should work. I wonder why not, as you said font embedding works from konqueror. kword uses exactly the same postscript driver (the one from Qt). The only reason I could see is that you used a bitmapped font in kword (which can't get embedded into the generated PS) Wel, that isn't the reason. First, when I click file-print and then click on the button system options, the dialog that appears has the optino embed fonts already ticked (it's a tick box). Secondly, I was using Arial, a MS ttf wenfont, which does the job perfectly on konqueror, and kmail (which, IIRC, uses kedit, so you got one more app that works fine with Hebrew printing). The only thing I can think of is that kword doesn't like ttf. 5* can produce pdf 6* pdf that embeds fonts This is done by ghostscript. If your postscript output gets embedded fonts, you should be able to get the same for the PDF. Sounds very reasonable. I guessed this much, but didn't test it (kind of hard when ps printing is broken :-(.) * when exporting to tex there is no way to specify an encoding other than latin1 or utf-8 * html does not contain dir=rtl tags, an issue when a paragraph starts with certain sequences, such as 1., which should be displayed as .1, for rudimentary numbered lists, also, otherwise bullets are on the wrong side of the page These two sound like they are simple to fix, don't ask me about the other ones. Anyway, if you'd like these to be fixed, the best is to either file a report at bugs.kde.org, or maybe contact david faure (faure at kde org), as he is the maintainer of kword. Thanks. I posted the above partly because I'd like these fixed. Although I am still upset about the not yet perfect displaying of Hebrew pages with footnotes. I'll wait for kde 3.1 and see (man, that's gonna be some download. It's the first time I'll have to do it over 5k line :-(.) Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kword not ready for [Hebrew] prime time yet
I just tried to see if kword could take over from lyx as my primary wordprocessor for Hebrew. My output needs are: 1* can produce ps 2* ps has embedded fonts 3* can produce html 4* html is standard compliant 5* can produce pdf 6* pdf that embeds fonts 7* can utilize utf-8 8* has good export facilities (text, tex, rtf, ...) Obviously all the above must be met for Hebrew. Kword does 1, 5 and 7, I don't know about 6, but I had no success with2, and 4 needs some fixing, and I have a problem with the implementation 3 and 8. LyX does 1, 2, 3 (using my latex2html patches and those I worked on with Ross Moore; some are already in cvs, although it is still a bit broken, and it should hopefully work properly soon enough), 4 (again, using the same patches), 5, 6 and 8. My problems with Kword are: * html and text export does not preserve footnotes * when exporting to tex there is no way to specify an encoding other than latin1 or utf-8 * Despite having selected in the kde language and country dialog Israel as the country (I assume that this should set the locale to Israel's), and despite embed fonts having been selected in qtconfig, Kword still won't do that. I must note that other applications, such as konqueror, have done a beautiful job printing Hebrew since kde 2.x * html does not contain dir=rtl tags, an issue when a paragraph starts with certain sequences, such as 1., which should be displayed as .1, for rudimentary numbered lists, also, otherwise bullets are on the wrong side of the page * the displaying of the frames is still buggy, especially with Hebrew footnotes * when indenting Hebrew text, the text block does not become narrower, but simply shifts to the left, such that some of the text becomes invisible Lyx, OTOH, doesn't do utf-8, so I am setting my eyes on the soon to be mainstreamed bidi implementation of openoffice... (any news on that front?) Should I forward this to some kde developer? (Lars ... what's his email?) Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kword not ready for [Hebrew] prime time yet
On Wednesday 20 November 2002 12:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Arie Folger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * html does not contain dir=rtl tags, an issue when a paragraph starts with certain sequences, such as 1., which should be displayed as .1, for rudimentary numbered lists, also, otherwise bullets are on the wrong side of the page I'm surprised you expect this, since KWord doesn't actually have paragraph direction. There is no facility for it. It simply guesses the direction from the first character in the paragraph. This is a very bad behavior for a word processor which claims to be BiDi. Well, are you using 1.2? managed to change paragraph direction using shift-ctrl. I forgot to mention why this is so upsetting: Kword uses align=right, instead, which is truly hideous. Anyways, standard-compliant HTML should NOT use DIR=RTL tags. This is a stylesheet issue. It should have a CLASS=rightToLeft tag, or something like that, and have a stylesheet containing direction: rtl for that class. Alternatively it should have a STYLE=direction: rtl attribute. Herouth -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: php question
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 03:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, a little test - which I told Arye to do, but decided to do myself: I wrote a small CGI: snip So it is definitely *not* PHP which sends out the HTML entities, but Mozilla itself - as you can see, the cgi itself is pure bash. Now, let's thank you also for the coup de grace: Going a bit further on my research, I found how to make Mozilla behave like Konqueror, and do it in a standard way. In the FORM tag, you have to add an ACCEPT-CHARSET=UTF-8 attribute, like this: FORM ACTION=cgi-bin/foo.cgi METHOD=POST ACCEPT-CHARSET=UTF-8 Now go and convince everybody who has a web site to add that thingy to their site... Remember I am patching phpnuke for this purpose. I will afterwards happily submit my changes to phpnuke (although in their maze of websites and subwebs I still have to figure out where this goes), hoping that eventually this will be part of the main sourcetree. BTW, which behaviour is more html standards compliant? Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: crossover office info
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 03:05, Shachar Shemesh wrote: 4. I have asked in the past for help, and indicated quite clearly that even telling me I use this application on Windows, and it uses Hebrew is considered help, as it focuses my work. So far, the only one to come forward and offer an app (and actually get it to me) was Haim Ravia. It's a law lookup prog, and it's a win16 app. That's fine as far as I'm concerned, but if you think there are other apps that you think are more representative, and that you want supported, please email me with the app's name. I use a Judaic text library called Judaic Classics, by Davka (http://www.davka.com), it is win32, but was written in prehistory, so it comes with a module to make it work in win 3.1. I also plan on purchasing the more modern Bar Ilan CD 9.0, which is a Judaic text collection far more comprehensive than the above. Both applications work in Windows without any Hebrew language packs, although I don't know whether Bar Ilan CD will do so in win95 or only in 98 or Me. (I don't have it yet, so I can only look at other people's installations) I assume that they implement their own bidi installation; they definitely come with their own fonts that are incompatible with other uses. Last time I tried to run Judaic Classics on Wine, it didn't work (but I may have messed up the fonts, and furthermore, this happened months ago or so). Note: the Bar Ilan CD uses a copy protection scheme which requires the original cd. I don't know how it works, but I assume that Wine needs the code to read something off the cd so that BI can match its authentication. Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: php question
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 14:33, Andre E. Bar'yudin wrote: The reason is, that in my opinion utf8 is not a legal codepage name (at least for Mozilla, although Java eats it as an alias to UTF-8, as far as I remember). Probably Konqueror does support this name too. So, maybe the original poster just made the same mistake - used something else instead of UTF-8 as his charset option. No, the original poster did not do such a mistake (if it ain't clear enough, I am the original poster). However, Herouth's suggestion to add accept-charset=utf-8 seems promising. I just executed my perl script to recursively fix the problem, and once the mail is read I hope to confirm everything is in order. Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: php question
On Sunday 17 November 2002 03:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Arie Folger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I modified phpnuke to allo utf8, and started filling the site with content (although for now the search function has been disabled because I expect it not to do Hebrew yet). Then, after viewing a Hebrew article as html source, I noticed that instead of unicode chararacters I got numbered entities. A quick look at teh MySql table revealed that everything was stored in numbered entities (what a waste of space). Has your input come from Mozilla? It does that. To make sure, write a cgi script (if you don't trust PHP) that displays its input as text/plain, and create a form in UTF8 that sends to that script. Yes, and, having investigated [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s suggestion: Would http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.htmlentities.php help you? Look also into get_html_translation_table(). .. I know now that not even that funtion (which, BTW, was not juxtaposed with htmlspecialchar() in the php book that comes with quanta 3.0) features in phpnuke, so Herouth must be right (but I'll check it today). Anyway, as far as the main problem: Problem is that paragraphs in numbered entities are not entirely displayed as rtl, in that the paragraphs are left justified and the bulleted lists are backwards, even though the entire section is between span dir=rtl.../span tags. Spans are not the answer, because bulleted lists are considered blocked entities. Each of them should have a DIR=RTL or an appropriate CSS entry. To the best of my knowledge, there is no difference between numbered entities and proper characters, because at least theoretically, all numbered entities are converted to the proper characters before the rendering is done. I tried that, and it is a solution. Note that adding a dir=rtl attribute in the body tag will help, too, but will mess up all those left to right blocks. Is there something other than span that will have the same effect, including on li and p elements? Thanks guys, (the php tip and the mozilla tip where both very much appreciated,) Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: php question
On Sunday 17 November 2002 13:46, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 10:12:39AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has your input come from Mozilla? It does that. To make sure, write a cgi script (if you don't trust PHP) that displays its input as text/plain, and create a form in UTF8 that sends to that script. Actually, both IE5 and Mozilla will encode characters which aren't present in the charset of the page which contains the HTML form, as Unicode entities (e.g. #blah;). snip To avoid this behavior, simply make this page, which contains the HTML form, in any Unicode encoding -- UTF-8, UTF-7 or UCS-2 (yuck!). But I stated in my first email that I patched phpnuke to do utf-8. The first thing I did was to change the charset= attribute.I even patched the xml container (standard feature of xhtml) because it also specifies a charset, but there is no difference. I must say that I now tested the site with konqueror (see below why I am using galeon for this site) and indeed it is a mozilla unexpected (to me) behaviour which caused the translation of utf8 to numbered entities. I think I will write a maintenance script that will access the database directly and chage numbered entitiesback to utf8, easier than changing parts of the php code which I didn't research sufficiently. Is there a way to disable this translation feature of mozilla and ie? The whole matter is complicated by the fact that konqueror will crash on large texts pasted into textarea boxes of forms, and I am posting long papers (20-30 pages), so I have been using galeon. Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
php question
Hi, I modified phpnuke to allo utf8, and started filling the site with content (although for now the search function has been disabled because I expect it not to do Hebrew yet). Then, after viewing a Hebrew article as html source, I noticed that instead of unicode chararacters I got numbered entities. A quick look at teh MySql table revealed that everything was stored in numbered entities (what a waste of space). Problem is that paragraphs in numbered entities are not entirely displayed as rtl, in that the paragraphs are left justified and the bulleted lists are backwards, even though the entire section is between span dir=rtl.../span tags. So I figured somewhere in that software must be a function to turn everything that is not latin1 into entities. I couldn't find such a user defined function (yet) but did find one standard function called htmlspecialchar(), which turns ampersands, quotes and angle brackets into entities, as well as htmlentities(), which turns every non latin1 character into a numbered entity. You'd think I found my function, but the problem is that the latter function does not show up in any of the php files, so I am at loss as to what function does the translation. My question: what other php function may be doing translation of unicode to numbered entities? What should I look for? Anybody familiar with phpnuke out here? Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
converting from/to LyX/LaTeX to kword
Anybody found a good way to convert documents from LyX or Latex to Kword? How about the other way around? I mean without using either plain text or html transformation, as I am concerned about documents with footnotes. Thing is, even as I love LyX, Kword is doing unicode while lyX isn't (yet). Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen
On Friday 08 November 2002 18:51, guy keren wrote: mplayer has an option that specifies how it will send images (the '-vo' option). you can run it and tell it to use something other then 'xv', and see if the problem goes away. I tried that at first. BTW, mplayer is the only one that had a useable option: X11 (XImage/Shm). However, mplayer reported that the codec is incompatible with the output device; don't understand that, never mind. Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen
OK, after having decided that RH8.0's xv extensions are the probable source of trouble, I moved my /usr/local partition's content to /usr/local on the /usr partition, and installed a barebones RH7.3 on the freed partition (1GB). Xine now plays the dvds beautifully. Of course, dual booting is not the world's best way of playing dvds (I could even have used windows' player, if dual booting was an ok performance -- forget it, I have dvds from outside my region), so I'd like to confirm the source of trouble and either fix it or file a bug report. What package is responsible for the xv extensions? How do I confirm that the xv extensions are the culprit? What other candidates are out there (libdvdcss, libdvdread,... Remember, the RH8.0 packages are linked against gcc3.2, and could have been wrongly reengineered, even as the gcc2.95 packeges are great)? Anybody else had a similar problem on RH8.0 (basically bad display of images, showing only half the image, merged with another copy of same half image to produce a whole image mess together, in windows using xv extensions)? Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen
On Friday 08 November 2002 11:05, you wrote (off list): hmm, i never tried rh8, i never use .0 products (too buggy). do you really have to use RedHat ? Use Gentoo, mplayer works beautiful. Flamer ;-). Seriously, though, I'd love to try Gentoo, but I am no longer on a T1, just dial up (hope I find a new job soon enough), and I am waiting to hear from list members that Hebrew support is on par, as well as learning more (on or off list) about their qa. In the mean time, I replaced the libdvdread and libdvdcss packages for RH8.0 with those built for RH7.3 and which I know work (you all remember an earlier post how, when installing a minimal RH7.3 system, I managed to play dvds very nicely, without any glitches. BTW, a minimal linux system that includes xmms and xine runs about 350 megs, not too bad), and nothing changed, which means that they are not the culprit. So I assume that the problem is caused by RH 8.0 X packages, although I don't know which ones. The possible culprits, IMO are: XFree86-Mesa-libGLU-4.2.0-72 XFree86-libs-4.2.0-72 XFree86-Mesa-libGL-4.2.0-72 XFree86-4.2.0-72 What do you think? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen
I can now confirm that the dvd playing softwares are the troublemakers; I just popped in another disc, and the results are the same: instead of a normal image, I see a split screen with two copies of the same half image. I will try to install a minimal RH7.3 on a spare partition (well, the partition may be too small) and see whether the dvds work there. I also didn't manage to get mplayer to work, yet. It seems I am missing some codecs; I will report my findings. Anybody know what the absolute minimum amount of disc space is necessary for RH7.3, X (using twm, no fancy window managers) and mplayer or xine? Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen
On Wednesday 06 November 2002 12:26, Arie Folger wrote: I can now confirm that the dvd playing softwares are the troublemakers; I just popped in another disc, and the results are the same: instead of a normal image, I see a split screen with two copies of the same half image. I will try to install a minimal RH7.3 on a spare partition (well, the partition may be too small) and see whether the dvds work there. I also didn't manage to get mplayer to work, yet. It seems I am missing some codecs; I will report my findings. Anybody know what the absolute minimum amount of disc space is necessary for RH7.3, X (using twm, no fancy window managers) and mplayer or xine? OK, I reinstalled mplayer, and it works properly, although the image is still wrong. Which library could have caused that? Also, how do I get RH to leave my /dev/dvd alone, rather than delete it at every reboot? Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen
I found the culprit: the XV video output driver. Only mplayer has an output driver (the X11 output video driver) that gives me a proper picture. Problem: what can I do to make xine, ogle and vlc work? More pressing problem: see the following error message from mplayer, and you'll understand why I want xv to work (any help?): Opening video decoder: [mpegpes] MPEG 1/2 Video passthrough VDec: vo config request - 720 x 480 (preferred csp: Mpeg PES) Couldn't find matching colorspace - retrying with -vop scale... Opening video filter: [scale] Sorry, selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec. VDecoder init failed :( Opening video decoder: [libmpeg2] MPEG 1/2 Video decoder v2.0 VDec: vo config request - 720 x 480 (preferred csp: Planar YV12) Movie-Aspect is 1.78:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect. VO: [x11] 720x480 = 854x480 Planar YV12 Using MMX for colorspace transform Detected video codec: [mpeg12] vfm:1 (MPEG 1 or 2) == Video attribute 'brightness' isn't supported by selected vo vd! Video attribute 'contrast' isn't supported by selected vo vd! Video attribute 'saturation' isn't supported by selected vo vd! Video attribute 'hue' isn't supported by selected vo vd! Audio: no sound!!! Start playing... V: 0.8 15 0% 0% 0.0% 0 0 0% ++ END OF ERROR MESSAGE Your help in fixing my xv video output is hereby appreciated, Arie Folger = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen
On Wednesday 06 November 2002 16:26, Oleg Kobets wrote: Check permissions on /dev/dsp for no sound problem. That is a misleading error message. Since the selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec, there is no stream, and thus no sound. I thought this would be obvious, sorry. Other then that, what graphics card do you use ? If it's ATI like me, compile XVidix and it will work superbly, or use good nvidia drivers which supposely work too with xv. I am using a dinosaur era Trident Cyberblade with a via chipset and 8mb videoram (the maximum :-(). Other then that, enable frame buffer and drm support in kernel for your gpu. You mean cpu (they aren't yet made by the FSF ;-)). IIRC this is enabled in stock RH kernels. I just checked, and DRM is enabled. FB must be enabled or I wouldn't see a RH issued (stock kernel) or pengiun (custom kernel) logo when booting. I will look for XVidix, thanks for the tip. Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen
On Wednesday 06 November 2002 16:26, Oleg Kobets wrote: Other then that, what graphics card do you use ? If it's ATI like me, compile XVidix and it will work superbly, or use good nvidia drivers which supposely work too with xv. Now it dawns on me, xvidix is for ati cards only, not for my trident cyberblade. What now? Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop screen is blanking out
Low tech solution: did you try to fiddle with the switch in the lid that switches the screen on and off when opening and closing the lid? works for me when apm messes up a little, both under X and in console. Arie Folger = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOLUTION Re: resizing /
I ended up finding some spare place to store an interim / partition, modified /etc/fstab to allow booting in that partition and mounting of the original / in /mnt/spare. Thing to watch out for: since grub looks for its config file on the original /, one should really carry out the entire migration in one session. However, even with no services running, fdisk told me it couldn't reload the partition table, so I had to reboot with a rescue disk (the RH installation cd #1, just type linux rescue at the prompt), and only then remount the new / and copy to it the contents of the interim /. Finally, I wondered why I had a kernel panic, and after some searching found that RH had once autonomously given a name to the original / partition; the label was / (I know, this is confusing). So once I realized that and issued e2label /dev/hda5 /, the thing was solved. I guess I would have had less trouble using parted after having booted with the rescue disc... Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen
On Thursday 31 October 2002 03:43, Martin Polley wrote: I've heard good things about Xine, too. (The pronunciation doesn't sound good in Hebrew though...) Since I posted, I tried Xine as well, and same result. I am gonna look for a neighbour to test the physical media. I tried downloading mplayer, but had no success (timeout). Arie -- ORIGINAL MESSAGE -- I am using RH8.0, and the following relevant packages are installed: aalib-1.4rc4-fr2.1 alsa-lib-0.9.0rc3 libdvdcss-1.2.3-fr1 libdvdread-0.9.3-fr1.1 lirc-0.6.5-fr3 ogle-0.8.5-fr3 ogle_gui-0.8.5-fr2 videolan-client-0.4.5-fr1 Any idea why this trouble? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen
Thank you both. I downloaded and installed it, and the problem persists. I will have my wife check the physical media (her friend has a standalone dvdplayer, but may not work if the region is set, the dvd is European and I am in the US; could that be the source of trouble? I doubt it, Linux dvdplayers should not care about region). Arie On Thursday 31 October 2002 10:25, Oleg Kobets wrote: http://mirrors.sctpc.com/dominik/linux/pkgs/mplayer/ Try this one. --- Oleg Kobets Network Administrator Breakthrough LTD. 054-747132 03-6349922 Ext 26 Black hole is God divided by zero - Original Message - From: Martin Polley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Arie Folger [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Oleg Kobets [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Linux IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 5:03 PM Subject: RE: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen You can get mplayer RPMs (none specifically for RH8.0 or in Rawhide, but Mandrake or Freshrpms versions may work): http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=mplayersubmit=Search +... (Copy/paste the link, including the ...) HTH, Martin Polley Technical Communicator http://www.surf-com.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (+972) (4) 9095-732 Mobile: (053) 864-280 ICQ 15617901 Hlade's Law: If you have a difficult task, give it to a lazy person. They will find an easier way to do it. -Original Message- From: Arie Folger [mailto:afolger;ymail.yu.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 6:00 PM To: Martin Polley; Oleg Kobets Cc: Linux IL Subject: Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen On Thursday 31 October 2002 03:43, Martin Polley wrote: I've heard good things about Xine, too. (The pronunciation doesn't sound good in Hebrew though...) Since I posted, I tried Xine as well, and same result. I am gonna look for a neighbour to test the physical media. I tried downloading mplayer, but had no success (timeout). Arie -- ORIGINAL MESSAGE -- I am using RH8.0, and the following relevant packages are installed: aalib-1.4rc4-fr2.1 alsa-lib-0.9.0rc3 libdvdcss-1.2.3-fr1 libdvdread-0.9.3-fr1.1 lirc-0.6.5-fr3 ogle-0.8.5-fr3 ogle_gui-0.8.5-fr2 videolan-client-0.4.5-fr1 Any idea why this trouble? == To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: increasing the keyboard's responsiveness
On Tuesday 29 October 2002 14:02, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: xset r rate in X. e.g. xset r rate 250 30 is my preferred setting (repeat delay 250, repeat rate 30). This sets the autorepeat rate. But does this influence the delay between different keystrokes? When I use the arrow keys to get around, I often find that the effect is way too slow. Is that a sign of an aging computer or is that, too, influenced by your suggestion? Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dvd player*s* show twice same half screen
Hi, I installed ogle and videolan client, and both suffer from the same illnes: I see only half the image, and that half is kind of displayed twice. I am using RH8.0, and the following relevant packages are installed: aalib-1.4rc4-fr2.1 alsa-lib-0.9.0rc3 libdvdcss-1.2.3-fr1 libdvdread-0.9.3-fr1.1 lirc-0.6.5-fr3 ogle-0.8.5-fr3 ogle_gui-0.8.5-fr2 videolan-client-0.4.5-fr1 Any idea why this trouble? Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: increasing the keyboard's responsiveness
On Tuesday 29 October 2002 00:42, guy keren wrote: what kind of hardware do you run this KDE on? myself, i use an AMD k6-2 with 256MB of RAM, and since KDE 2.X and beyond runs to slow, i switched to gnome 1.2 (RH 7.3). KDE became too bloated to run on this hardware. [please don't start flaming - i liked KDE's look better ;) ] AMD K-II 55MHz. KDE isn't too slow, just typing is. I remember from the bad old Windoze days that the responsiveness was very bad. Probably to make it more user friendly to those typing with their thumbs.grin Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
increasing the keyboard's responsiveness
Hi, When typing in kde apps, I feel that typing has definitely become more sluggish lately (as opposed to earlier versions). Does this mean that it's time to upgrade (need a new job, first) or is this tweakable? Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
resizing /
Hi, I want to grow the / partition. When I wanted to resize partitions in the past (which did happen a number of times to /usr and /home as I weaned myself from windows and the available tools grew by leaps and bounds), I just copied the content of the partition, using cp -a, to a directory on another partition (I may have used tar zcf if I only had space on a vfat partition), destroyed the partition, recreated it with more sectors (typically the new secttors came from another partition that moved after eating some vfat for breakfast ;-)), and finally copied the contents back to the new partition. This is obviously inappropriate for /, because I can't unmount /. I tried to use ext2fsadm, but it wants a file created by vgscan. I read the docs, and they require me to create logical volumes with vgcreate. At this point I am slowly getting lost, so does anybody have quick instructions on this one? I am using a RH8.0 on a amd k2-550, and my drive is (from dmesg): hda: FUJITSU MHK2120AT, ATA DISK drive hda: 23579136 sectors (12073 MB) w/512KiB Cache, CHS=1467/255/63, UDMA(33) Thanks, Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: redhat did it again - no howtos on iso images
On Sunday 27 October 2002 13:03, Eliran wrote: I also didn't see it in RH7.2 (The Doc. CD was preety empty...) Which is why the subject line reads redhat did it *again*. The last howto rpm was in 7.2. 7.3 had none. Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: redhat did it again - no howtos on iso images
On Sunday 27 October 2002 12:50, Sagi Bashari wrote: On 27/10/2002 17:49, Arie Folger wrote: Did anybody else notice how HOWTOs have been effectively considered deprecated by RedHat? Any rpm anywhere available that sports a recent collection of HOWTOs? (yeah, yeah, I know, I can just download a tarball. I'll do that if the above is unavailable). Arie Folger I think that one of the 5 CDs is documentation CD, I guess they're somewhere in there. No, they are not in there; only the redhat installation, getting started, customization and administration guides plus the IIRC brand new security guides are in there. BTW, the documentation cd is the sixth disc, to be downloaded from an adjacent tree (i.e., not from iso/i386 but from iso/doc). Cheers, Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kpilot doesn't sync properly over usb
Correction: I wrote: In the mean time, all other users can use jpilot, although I am not thrilled having no conduits to kde apps. I am wrong, jpilot doesn't do usb either. I guess one will have to stick to the command line pilot-link suite. Cheers, Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
