controlling CPU's fan speed

[Boaz Rymland]

Hi,


I've recently discovered that on my HP Pavillion 6010a the CPU fan is 
most likely always running at its lowest CPU fan speed. This results in 
relatively high CPU temperatures - when machine is loaded (and since its 
running Gentoo its loaded quite a few times ;-), its reaching 70 degrees 
Celsius. I know this still might be in the green zone for the AMD Athlon 
64 (single core) its using but I'd rather keep it in even greener area 
of its threshold.


I've searched the net and played with some stuff but mostly didn't find 
exactly the utility I'm looking for. I can use cpufrequtils to lower CPU 
cycles, which works ok, but why would I prefer hampering my machine's 
performance instead of simply pushing the fan cycles up?... .


I took a look at lm-sensors but it has a too big config file 
(/etc/sensors.conf) for my time constraints right now and I'm not sure 
it'll help.


In /proc/acpi/fan/FAN I have only "state" which when "cat"ing, prints: 
"status: on".



Anyone knows how to hasten the CPU speed on such a system?

TIA,

Boaz.

Re: controlling CPU's fan speed

[Boaz Rymland]

Hi,

Thanks for the reply.
I didn't mentioned it verbosely but its a desktop machine, not a laptop.
I'm not sure it means too much but I can add that when powering up the
machine I do hear the FAN running at high speed but when it gets to OS
loading phase it gets calmed down - for good until the next reboot. 
I would not want to cycle down the CPU in order to lower the heat. Not
that I think it'll help: when the machine gets loaded (and even some
sites when surfing via firefox cause lots of load) it gets warm very
quickly (so cycling CPU down in advance wont "gather coldness" for
tougher times. I think).

Boaz.

> On my old HP nc8000 the fan speed was inaccessible through the OS. It would
> power up (and make a lot of noise) only on really high loads and the laptop
> would still get pretty hot. I had to use the powersaved daemon to
> (automatically) throttle the CPU freq when not needed.
> 
> AFAIK this is the correct way to keep the temp down on laptops. Temps > 50c
> are normal on high load situations. My current Dell (xps m1530) could boil
> an egg when running 100%.
> 
> One more thing. After 3 years of continuous usage, my nc8000 cpu's airflow
> got blocked by a big solid pile of dirt. This resulted in extremely high
> temps (even the keyboard was burning). Don't forget to check yours for dust
> and dirt!
> 
> Alex
> 
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Boaz Rymland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >  Hi,
> >
> >
> >  I've recently discovered that on my HP Pavillion 6010a the CPU fan is
> > most likely always running at its lowest CPU fan speed. This results in
> > relatively high CPU temperatures - when machine is loaded (and since its
> > running Gentoo its loaded quite a few times ;-), its reaching 70 degrees
> > Celsius. I know this still might be in the green zone for the AMD Athlon 64
> > (single core) its using but I'd rather keep it in even greener area of its
> > threshold.
> >
> > I've searched the net and played with some stuff but mostly didn't find
> > exactly the utility I'm looking for. I can use cpufrequtils to lower CPU
> > cycles, which works ok, but why would I prefer hampering my machine's
> > performance instead of simply pushing the fan cycles up?... .
> >
> > I took a look at lm-sensors but it has a too big config file
> > (/etc/sensors.conf) for my time constraints right now and I'm not sure it'll
> > help.
> >
> > In /proc/acpi/fan/FAN I have only "state" which when "cat"ing, prints:
> > "status: on".
> >
> >
> >  Anyone knows how to hasten the CPU speed on such a system?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Boaz.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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Re: 64-bit linux

[Boaz Rymland]

Usually you'll come quite quickly on a need for the 32bit libraries, be 
it for (I'm not sure I'm correct or updated with all my examples) Flash 
plug-in for your browser (or other browser issues, like firebug 
extension, although I think in FF3 this is solved), Sun Java JRE and 
some other propriety or closed source applications/libraries (perhaps 
skype client as well, for sound device usage, not sure).


In any case, I don't think there's any harm from installing those 
libraries so I guess that either way is safe and ok to go.



Boaz.


Eran Levy wrote:


Hi All,
I've got a new duo-core laptop and installed the Ubuntu 64-bit 
compilation for the first time. Anything you can recommend? ALL 32-bit 
application can work on 64-bit? any exceptions? even GTK?

Should I install any 32-bit libraries?

Thanks for your help,
Eran


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Re: 64-bit linux

[Boaz Rymland]

Well, to me, there was some hassle, but frankly its not that great. Just 
recently I've installed Kubuntu 8.04, 64bit version on my office desktop 
(some new Dell machine). I don't remember anything too special I needed 
to mess with.


Also, things are improving with time so I guess bad experiences from the 
past are becoming more and more - a thing of the past (like Linux usage 
in general, which is becoming more convenient, skipping the need to be a 
rocket scientist to get a common and useful functionality out of it).



Boaz.


Amos Shapira wrote:


2008/7/5 Boaz Rymland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

Usually you'll come quite quickly on a need for the 32bit libraries, be it
for (I'm not sure I'm correct or updated with all my examples) Flash plug-in
for your browser (or other browser issues, like firebug extension, although
I think in FF3 this is solved), Sun Java JRE and some other propriety or
closed source applications/libraries (perhaps skype client as well, for
sound device usage, not sure).

In any case, I don't think there's any harm from installing those libraries
so I guess that either way is safe and ok to go.



My personal experience is that 64 bit (7.10 and 8.04) on Desktop
wasn't worth the hassle if you want to use proprietary software -
Flash never worked well (non-Adobe aren't there yet) and other
proprietary software (Picasa, possibly Google Earth but this week I
noticed that they have 64-bit version for that) also was a hassle to
install and then didn't work (don't remember details). I since
switched to 32-bit and forgot all about it.

Back when I had 64 bit, I followed all sorts of how-to's on getting
things working with it and it never was right (e.g. Flash never
worked).

Now with 32 bit on my desktop and laptop, I don't see any
disadvantages (it doesn't feel any slower and it can make use of the
2Gb RAM I have).

I don't use my desktops for C/C++ development. I do most of my dev in
Perl now and use (64bit) CentOS servers for production deployment.
Your requirements may vary.

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Re: 64-bit linux

[Boaz Rymland]

Same with me - flash worked out of the box inc. its sound. I don't even 
remember any special packages that I needed to install for (this doesn't 
mean that they weren't any but I don't have bad memories of it).



Noam Meltzer wrote:




On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:



64-bit generally works, yes. It's just that the little things in the
edges can get annoying at some stage.

Did you get Flash to work (I mean - to a level that allows you to view
all the Flash-using web sites that you care about)?


Flash works in kubuntu 8.04 64bit, out of the box. (using nspluginwrapper)
Same goes for Acrobat Reader plugin.
It was such a joy for me to discover this after the upgrade...

This actually closed all the little edges which bothered me for 1.5 
years in kubuntu 64bit.

Re: Firefox chokes on YNET

[Boaz Rymland]

To the best of my knowledge its not the flash objects on the page but 
rather the JS they use there. I was told once its the scrolling news 
thingy they use which eats the CPU.


Ori Idan wrote:


I think it is because of the the many flash adds they have.
Use adblock to block these adds and it should work fine.

--
Ori Idan


On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Shlomo Solomon 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:


I have firefox 2.0.0.16  on Mandriva 2008.1 - all
packages up-to-date.

When I open YNET, CPU usage jumps to about 150% (AMD dual core -
over 70% on
each core). Closing YNET brings thngs back to normal. Has anyone
seen this
and/or any solutions?

BTW - I should mention that I have way too many FF extensions, but
that
doesn't cause any problems on other sites, so I don't think
there's any
connection.

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Re: Re, more readable?: Email Hosting (POP+SMTP) Recommendation

[Boaz Rymland]

Having reverse DNS point to your fixed IP is not that difficult at all 
(if I got the thread's idea right).


Been there done that a year+ ago and Bezeq int and 013 Barak agreed on 
providing this entry in their DNS servers for free, when I already had a 
fixed IP. The whole thing is really negotiable with ISPs and 
technically, I guess, its a simple thing for them (perhaps managing 
those entries is a little challenge). IIRC, bezeq int didn't even argue 
while 013 barak needed a little persuasion. Both agreed at the end.


As usual, unfortunately, the biggest amount of time I needed to invest 
in setting this configuration with my ISP was explaining to support 
people what I'm talking about and trying to get as quickly as possible 
their business technical support, which where the only ones to 
understand what I'm talking about and hence to provide it :-)



Boaz.


P.S.,

I'm off of hosting a mail server via a standard broadband account (after 
several good years of doing so). Moved to a hosting service 
(www.thinkhost.com) to do that.




Shaul Karl wrote:


Shachar Shemesh wrote:

  

Shaul Karl wrote:

Take a look at [3-5] of 
  
http://whatsup.org.il/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=45462>   
Yes, I'll try to solve it. However, experience shows that this 
is not, by far, a simple thing to ask.




  This difficulty is probably an important reason why MTAs bother about
it in the first place. On the other hand, my understanding is that an ISP client
with a fixed IP get it, or perhaps a reverse pointer forwarding (to his dns),
on demand.


  

I'll handle it next week sometime and see whether anything changes.

Shachar



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Re: backing up mysql database (mysqldump)

[Boaz Rymland]

Uri Evenhen More wrote:


Hi Friends,

I am hosting my website on Servage.net, where I don't get SSH access.
I need to run mysqldump in order to backup my mysql database to SQL
format (I need the backup in SQL format).  Is there a way to run
mysqldump without using SSH access?  Does phpmyadmin support this?
  
Yes - login to phpmyadmin, choose DB, then click on the "export" tab 
(while still viewing the DB, not a specific table). Choose your export 
preferences and "go".

They also have cron scripts enabled - can I put such a command in my
cron job?   Please help.

Thanks,

Uri Evenhen More (Ore)
Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/

Now working on version l.l of the pie - defined as o/o or olo or lol.
I discovered the number of dots is very important - l..l is not equal
to l.l; and l is not equal to l.  I am working on dividing your
numbers and numbering your primes.  it's very complicated, since every
number can be considered prime, not prime, integer and irrational.
remember there is at least one more root to every equation than what
you previously thought, for example there are at least pie square
roots of the number pie.

Update: moved my blog to http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ .  I decided
to remove other content from this website.

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OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

[Boaz Rymland]

Similarly, due to time constraints I'm not currently performing any 
active steps with the several spam emails that I have received lately, 
all from some coaching/spiritual spammer.


If there's a lawyer or someone with enough spare time on his hands in 
the crowd who wishes to raise the glove please reply privately.



Boaz.


Dotan Cohen wrote:


I have started getting Hebrew spam again, even now that the new
anti-spam law is in place. Sure, I _could_ just filter it, but I would
prefer to make life miserable for the spammers, even at my own
expense. What legal tools do I have?

  


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Re: No noobs?

[Boaz Rymland]

No. 

Trolls should die (noobs or not). 

Boaz.

On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:47:32 +0200, Jacob Broido  wrote:
  noobs should die.
 On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Dotan Cohen  wrote:
 While referring a new Linux user to the Linux-il mailing list, I
found
 this text on the page:
 "No newbie questions (use gnubies-il instead)."
 Can the lists be merged? This list is low enough traffic that
doubling
 it should not be a problem, and the separation of noobs and gurus
 means that few gurus see the noobs posts, and they never get the
help
 that they need.
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Re: Recommendations for desktop search tool under Linux

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Beagle once created huge log files in its directory under my home dir, 
which clogged my filesystem. It took a while to find the culprit but 
afterwards it was pretty fast to purge it from my system :-) . That 
incident, couple with very little use I had for it, convinced me to drop 
it altogether.



Nobody mentioned the long proven, useful and (very) lean on resources - 
Linux command line tools like locate, grep, find, vi and probably a few 
good other "dinosaurs" which I left out of the list. They do what I want 
today to the point that I don't feel an urge to find such a tool as you 
describe. Yes, the downside is considerable as well - they are hard to 
use to the point that probably the new Linux user (=my mother, if she 
would have ever considered using Linux...) will never use them. I just 
mention these tools for the sake of the record :-)



Boaz.


but yes - not trivial command line for the casual user (=my mother, if 
she had used Linux in the first place :-)



Yuval Hager wrote:


בSaturday 04 April 2009, נכתב על ידי Omer Zak:
  

So I am asking:
1. Which desktop search tool are you using under Linux?



Beagle. I dumped it once for the same reasons you described, but recently I 
went for the hunt again, and found that beagle has the most index plugins, 
and it indexes almost everything I have.


  

2. What are its good and bad points?



It's not as a hog as it was, it integrates nicely with KDE (kerry). I'm not 
too impress with its search capabilities, but it does a fairly good job. On 
occasion I am getting angry with it and closing it until I need it again. 

  

3. How happy are you with it?



Pretty happy.

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Re: Recommendations for desktop search tool under Linux

[Boaz Rymland]

Omer Zak wrote:


The huge files (index and log files) were not a problem for me.  I set
aside a separate multi-GB partition for Beagle's use, directing it to
use it by an appropriately planted symbolic link.
  
Even if I had lots of diskspace I still wouldn't have liked the fact 
that beagle waste so much of it and more over, the fact that I need to 
track its disk usage. But, its a matter of taste of course.

I use those "traditional" command line tools, too.

The problem is that they are very slow when I want to search significant
parts of my PC's filesystem.  Therefore I need a search tool which I
would expect to index the information for easier subsequent retrieval.
  
Right, searching over large subtrees of your FS can be quite slow. There 
are probably even more downsides to command line tools. Well, nobody's 
perfect :-)


Boaz.

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"stealing" domain names by Israeli registrar

[Boaz Rymland]

Hi all,


Consultation needed:


A friend of mine and myself are volunteering to launch a charity web site.

My friend is not proficient in web technologies so when he went to check 
for registration of the domain, he followed the instructions recommended 
on one of the Israeli registrars - internic.co.il and check through 
their website the vacancy of the domain we wanted, with .co.il . It was 
as vacant as it can be.



The following day, he went to actually register the domain and guess 
what? The domain was already registered(!)... .


This smelled very fishy: the domain name was very unlikely to be 
requested "by coincidence" at that exact timing; the person holding the 
domain was some Israeli name with a very unreadable email address ending 
in some .info domain (cannot quote the email address here - see PS 
section below).


Now I have another friend who's deep into the hosting business and he 
immediately told me that the owners of Internic.co.il are know to be 
doing this very ugly move on whois queries running through their web site.



*My questions*:

* is that business method illegal?

* what can be done here in order to react? (be the internic method legal 
or not).



Thanks!

Boaz.


*P.S.*

* luckily for us, after I talked to my friend we made it clear that the 
needed domain should finish with a .org, not .co.il, so we actually 
weren't hit by Internic sting. The incident was and still is, very 
irritating.


* the .co.il domain was hijacked on March 24 (IIRC) but its now free - 
no registration records exists for it so I cannot quote the snatcher 
details. But, since Internic (or the people they're affiliated with) are 
making a living in the described method, it should be rather easy to 
prove how they work - its a little matter of persistence... .


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Re: ot: isps

[Boaz Rymland]

I'm using Nezeq-Intl + Hot with no such issues. But:

* I'm connecting via a router that manages the connection for me (I 
guess I would have still felt it - and I'm not).


* maybe talk to them and try to change the connection type - 
pptp/ppoe/direct/etc. (I was using pptp until a few days and now direct 
connection without those issues).


* I am unable to use Bitorrent these days. This is new thing for me - 
maybe a week or two and very annoying. AFAIK, and unfortunately, this 
also almost common practice for Israeli ISPs these days: 
http://shimi.net/2008/07/28/et-tu-bezeqint/



Boaz.


Erez D wrote:


hi

i want a new Internet connection for my home.

first i thought of trying the cellular companies. any experience with 
them ? are they good ?


i am still connected to bbl+hot. i experience problems in creating a 
connection. one of every 10 connections doesn't open, and i need to 
reload the page ...

are other experiencing the same problems with them ?


10x,
erez


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Re: "stealing" domain names by Israeli registrar

[Boaz Rymland]

Well well. Its seems like we are not even breaking grounds here. The 
trick's has been around for some time now.


Thanks for the links. Informative indeed.


Boaz.


Dotan Cohen wrote:


2009/4/17 Boaz Rymland :
  

Hi all,

Consultation needed:

A friend of mine and myself are volunteering to launch a charity web site.

My friend is not proficient in web technologies so when he went to check for
registration of the domain, he followed the instructions recommended on one
of the Israeli registrars - internic.co.il and check through their website
the vacancy of the domain we wanted, with .co.il . It was as vacant as it
can be.

The following day, he went to actually register the domain and guess what?
The domain was already registered(!)... .

This smelled very fishy: the domain name was very unlikely to be requested
"by coincidence" at that exact timing; the person holding the domain was
some Israeli name with a very unreadable email address ending in some .info
domain (cannot quote the email address here - see PS section below).

Now I have another friend who's deep into the hosting business and he
immediately told me that the owners of Internic.co.il are know to be doing
this very ugly move on whois queries running through their web site.

My questions:

* is that business method illegal?

* what can be done here in order to react? (be the internic method legal or
not).

Thanks!

Boaz.

P.S.

* luckily for us, after I talked to my friend we made it clear that the
needed domain should finish with a .org, not .co.il, so we actually weren't
hit by Internic sting. The incident was and still is, very irritating.

* the .co.il domain was hijacked on March 24 (IIRC) but its now free - no
registration records exists for it so I cannot quote the snatcher details.
But, since Internic (or the people they're affiliated with) are making a
living in the described method, it should be rather easy to prove how they
work - its a little matter of persistence... .




Network Solutions is known to do this as well:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/08/1920215

Actually, it is not uncommon:
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/28/1458247

  
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Re: ubuntu is starting to annoy me

[Boaz Rymland]

geoffrey mendelson wrote:

After 3 days of running it can not make a connection to the outisde 
world. I have to reboot to get it to work. Other computers runing 
Ubuntu have the same problem, 3 days after they were booted, but ones 
running other operating systems don't.
I had a similar issue that was resolved when I switched to a PCI 
ethernet adapter with different chipset.
In my case it seemed as if the network "total loss" was related to long 
periods of idle time - overnight and such. I suspected that whatever 
power management or other idle-time related mechanism wasn't functioning 
ok. Replacing the NIC resolved it.


Ubuntu is not perfect.
I hope the descriptions here are not a sign of a major issue with this 
release.
To the good or worse, its (arguably) one of the best Linux distros out 
there and most likely the first recommended by many to be your grandma's 
Windows replacement.
I also get irritated by it at times, but I also got irritated by Gentoo 
(eventually it took me took much time to simply maintain it) and you can 
find similar problems in any distro - even if you a true Linux zealot :-)


Boaz.

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Re: ubuntu is starting to annoy me

[Boaz Rymland]

On Wed, 20 May 2009 10:33:15 +0300, Gabor Szabo  wrote:
> 
> 1) the dual screen stopped working correctly, and actually I cannot
> set the screen resolution to high enough.
> 
> Does anyone know /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not seem to change when I
> change the configuration via the
> GUI. So how can I reconfigure the X ?

What's your GPU chipset?

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Re: php cli is trying to resolve

[Boaz Rymland]

ik wrote:




On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Tzafrir Cohen > wrote:


What addresses?


Machine local names, but when I changed the DNS addresses to faster 
addresses it takes no more then few MS to have a result.
probably php itself populating its predefined global $_SERVER vars and 
getting stuck on DNS or reverse DNS on this.
 




>
> I can not reproduce it on any other Linux that I have tried to
(Ubuntu,
> debian and Arch Linux).

Different modules loaded?


Probably, but I can't figure out in strace what module actually do it, 
that's why I posted the question here.
 





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Feedback on Acer laptop w. Linux

[Boaz Rymland]

Hi all,


Can anyone provide feedback on the following Acer laptop, or any other 
Acer Linux based laptops? (Interestingly, searching for "linux" word in 
laptop section in zap.co.il shows almost exclusively only Acer results: 
http://zap.co.il/models.aspx?sog=C-PCLaptop&keyword=linux). In specific 
- how well all hardware goodies work in linux - power 
management/scaling, wifi, bluetooth, card reader, X, etc etc...



The model is *Acer Aspire AS5738Z-422G25MN*. It comes with Intel Dual 
Core T4200 and Intel GMA 4500.



Thanks,

Boaz.





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Re: Feedback on Acer laptop w. Linux

[Boaz Rymland]

Thanks for the input.


The Linux powered Acer laptop comes with Linpus as far as I can tell. I 
see in Zap other Acers with Linux but searching the net I see my 
targeted model powered with Linpus as well (In India, for example).


I still contemplate on whether to go with the Windows powered model, 
which offers several goodies over the somewhat older Linux ones (like 
HDMI, DDR-III RAM, LED display) and hope all would work, or, go "for 
sure" on the Linux pre-installed ones. The two options cost very similar 
here.



Boaz.



Steve Litt wrote:


On Saturday 29 August 2009 16:52:49 Boaz Rymland wrote:
  

Hi all,


Can anyone provide feedback on the following Acer laptop, or any other
Acer Linux based laptops? (Interestingly, searching for "linux" word in
laptop section in zap.co.il shows almost exclusively only Acer results:
http://zap.co.il/models.aspx?sog=C-PCLaptop&keyword=linux).



My Acer Aspire 5102WLMi runs Ubuntu 64 bit 9.04 very well.

  

In specific
- how well all hardware goodies work in linux - power
management/scaling, 



I never noticed, but I know the hard disk stops spinning and the screen goes 
black after a few minutes.


  
wifi, 



Beautifully. Atheros is a thing of beauty.

  
bluetooth, card reader, 



I never use those so I can't say.

  

X



Beautifully with one exception. It does NOT work with most video projectors in 
X. Neither does my other Linux laptop. The fonts are very nice on the LCD 
screen.


  

, etc etc...



Sound works very nicely. Flash specific sites work just fine. I haven't used the 
built in webcam.


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Re: Feedback on Acer laptop w. Linux

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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:06:43 +0300, Oron Peled  wrote:
> On Sunday, 30 בAugust 2009 07:52:18 Boaz Rymland wrote:
>> ... or, go "for sure" on the Linux pre-installed ones.
> 
> Just a general warning (don't know if it applies to this specific model).
> Many devices on the market with Linux pre-installed have some binary
> components that make them worthless -- install your own version and
> many important features will stop working.

and isn't there a way, if it can be generalized at all, to: get a linux
preinstalled laptop, install your own linux, then install the manufacturer
packages/updates separately? Alternatively, can one, with little effort,
collect those binaries from his pre-installed linux prior to installing
other linux and put them on the new installation? (I guess this can be
done, but the question is how much resources are needed to fully move all).

Thanks,
Boaz.

> 
> As an example you can take all netbooks with Intel GMA-500 graphics
chipset
> 
> (Poulsbo) which needs binary blobs to function. AFAIK, many of Dell's
> netbooks
> are equipped with this chipset, so although they are pre-installed with
> Ubuntu
> your install/upgrade options are very restricted.
> 
> This is an example of really bad move from Intel who otherwise has
> excellent
> free software support for its hardware.

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Re: Drupal or Joomla for Heb-Eng Site?

[Boaz Rymland]

Hi,

   * The specified requirements list was much too slim to judge ("how
 much does a suite for an orphan cost"? Is there such a sentence in
 English? :-)
   * This is a hot debate between enthusiasts from both camps.
   * Here are some links that try to address this issue:
 o 
http://www.topnotchthemes.com/blog/090224/drupal-vs-joomla-frank-comparison-ibm-consultant
 o 
http://www.alledia.com/blog/general-cms-issues/joomla-and-drupal-which-one-is-right-for-you/
 o http://mydrupal.com/joomla-versus-drupal
 o http://drupal.org/node/563294
 o and there are many many more...

Boaz.

Chaim Keren-Tzion wrote:

Which is preferred for building a Hebrew-English site, Drupal or Joomla?
The management interface can be in English. I will need content and 
menus in He and En though.


Thanks in advance.


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Re: Please recommend a web host in Israel

[Boaz Rymland]

On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:54:46 +0300, Dotan Cohen 
wrote:
> A friend needs a web host for a small project. He will need a catchall
> email address, mysql, and PHP. He needs just a few MB of storage and
> not much transfer, but there should be options to increase should the
> project progress. He already has a domain name.
> 
> Please recommend to me a web host. We have been looking at
> evolution.co.il so any comments (both good and bad) about that host
> would be appreciated. Thanks.

Can't say anything about evolution. 
I can recommend nsa.co.il . I'm not using any other Israeli hosting
services their servers are very responsive, in comparison to big foreign
hosting services. The service is very responsive as well (even when
considering the fact that I know the owner personally - I know how he
treats the clients).

Boaz.


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[SOLVED?] Re: Feedback on Acer laptop w. Linux

[Boaz Rymland]

Hi all,


So I made the move and bought it. Here are my findings:


*Maker + Model:* Acer 5738ZG. That's a little upgraded in comparison to 
the original model suggested - with 4GB RAM and NVIDIA GPU. The rest of 
the specs are the same.


*Distro Installed: *Ubuntu 9.04, amd64.*
*

*Wifi:* worked out of the box (atheros).

*Touchpad:* Worked out of the box, but disabling it and then trying to 
enable it - it is not enabled, until X (or was it machine?) restart. 
Anybody got a link for a solution?


*Card Reader:* Worked out of the box, at least with SD card (didn't try 
other types).


*X: *This laptop model is equipped with NVIDIA G105M chipset. I didn't 
work out of the box: ubuntu installed its latest nvidia drivers but 
those were too old to know this card. When vesa or some other default 
driver was used, X run, but not in optimal resolution and no 
acceleration. I battled it too much apparently and all you need to do is 
install the latest drivers from nvidia (185), skipping the ubuntu repos 
driver, and use a nice(?) xorg.conf I've found on the web (for laptops 
with my GPU/screen specs).


*Power management:* with the nvidia driver mentioned above used, power 
management worked perfectly. I configured my laptop to do as I wish upon 
lead closing (for AC/battery) and it works smoothly. CPU Scaling was 
also perfectly supported.


*Bluetooth? *not on this model.  just ordered a tiny BT USB dongle. Hope 
that it works... .


*WebCam:* not working out of the box. Haven't really tried setting it up 
yet.


*Sound:* worked out of the box.

*Anything else? *mail me for questions... .


Boaz.


Boaz Rymland wrote:


Hi all,


Can anyone provide feedback on the following Acer laptop, or any other 
Acer Linux based laptops? (Interestingly, searching for "linux" word 
in laptop section in zap.co.il shows almost exclusively only Acer 
results: http://zap.co.il/models.aspx?sog=C-PCLaptop&keyword=linux). 
In specific - how well all hardware goodies work in linux - power 
management/scaling, wifi, bluetooth, card reader, X, etc etc...



The model is *Acer Aspire AS5738Z-422G25MN*. It comes with Intel Dual 
Core T4200 and Intel GMA 4500.



Thanks,

Boaz.







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Re: [SOLVED?] Re: Feedback on Acer laptop w. Linux

[Boaz Rymland]

IMHO, that should be the standard practice for open source minded people 
(and in general - non-commercial mindset people), even if not zealously 
practiced.



Boaz.


Steve Litt wrote:


On Friday 04 September 2009 02:19:23 Boaz Rymland wrote:
[clip]
  

*Maker + Model:* Acer 5738ZG. That's a little upgraded in comparison to
the original model suggested - with 4GB RAM and NVIDIA GPU. The rest of
the specs are the same.

*Distro Installed: *Ubuntu 9.04, amd64.*


[clip]
  

*X: *This laptop model is equipped with NVIDIA G105M chipset. I didn't
work out of the box: ubuntu installed its latest nvidia drivers but
those were too old to know this card. When vesa or some other default
driver was used, X run, but not in optimal resolution and no
acceleration. I battled it too much apparently and all you need to do is
install the latest drivers from nvidia (185), skipping the ubuntu repos
driver, and use a nice(?) xorg.conf I've found on the web (for laptops
with my GPU/screen specs).


[clip]
  

*Anything else? *mail me for questions... .



I'd like to see you post exactly what you did in order to get X running. Where 
did you get the drivers? Where in your filesystem did you put them? How did you 
tell Ubuntu's package manager they were custom? Did you alter System-
  

Administration->software_sources? What's the URL of the xorg.conf?



The process you used is a somewhat generic solution to the ongoing problem of 
video hardware that's newer than the distribution.


I REALLY appreciate the fact that you took the time to post your [SOLVED] 
solution. When googling for error messages, I typically get 50 questions for 
every answer. Most people, upon answering it for themselves, don't consider 
others trying to walk the same path.


Thanks

SteveT

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touchpad can't be re-enabled after disabled

[Boaz Rymland]

Hi,


I have a new laptop (Acer 5738 mentioned in a different thread) which I 
have a nagging problem with:



I have this nice and useful button right next to the touchpad, for 
disabling it (when working with mouse and using the keyboard and prefer 
not having pointer distracted by occasional touches on the touchpad 
while typing).



The problem is that when I use it, all is gute and the touchpad is 
disabled but when I try to re-enable the touchpad its still disabled. 
This is fixed only after a shutdown of the system, or "suspend" of it.



I failed to find any useful help on the web.


When I run hal-device or lspci (-v) I find nothing like "touchpad" or 
"synaptic".



Any tip?

Thanks,

Boaz.

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Re: [SOLVED?] Re: Feedback on Acer laptop w. Linux

[Boaz Rymland]

Steve Litt wrote:


On Friday 04 September 2009 02:19:23 Boaz Rymland wrote:
[clip]
  

*Maker + Model:* Acer 5738ZG. That's a little upgraded in comparison to
the original model suggested - with 4GB RAM and NVIDIA GPU. The rest of
the specs are the same.

*Distro Installed: *Ubuntu 9.04, amd64.*


[clip]
  

*X: *This laptop model is equipped with NVIDIA G105M chipset. I didn't
work out of the box: ubuntu installed its latest nvidia drivers but
those were too old to know this card. When vesa or some other default
driver was used, X run, but not in optimal resolution and no
acceleration. I battled it too much apparently and all you need to do is
install the latest drivers from nvidia (185), skipping the ubuntu repos
driver, and use a nice(?) xorg.conf I've found on the web (for laptops
with my GPU/screen specs).


[clip]
  

*Anything else? *mail me for questions... .



I'd like to see you post exactly what you did in order to get X running. Where 
did you get the drivers? Where in your filesystem did you put them? How did you 
tell Ubuntu's package manager they were custom? Did you alter System-

More details on getting X to work:

At first I tried to use ubuntu's (System->Administration->Hardware 
drivers) identification of the hardware that would typically result in 
suggestion to use nvidia propriety drivers. It did, and I went with it 
suggestion. Version 180 (IIRC) of the nvidia drivers was installed but 
all It didn't work - I got corrupted 6 windows instead of one nice 
LED-lit screen :-)


Next, I realized and saw on the web (and docs) that version 180 of the 
drivers do not support my relatively new GPU. I decided to give "nv" 
drivers a shot. I'm not a gamer anyhow. nv didn't work nice with my 
screen - I failed to see the full resolution of it. Maybe I could have 
make it work with nv, but I saw it simply takes too much time so...


After sawing on nvnews.net (forums) that my GPU is supported (beta? 
don't recall) in version 185 of the drivers (which is to this time the 
latest stable nvidia release of drivers for linux) I decided to install it.
You download a nice binary from their site. Its a self contained 
installer that you just need to run as root. There's a wizard there that 
collects your answers and preferences, and does the rest, including all. 
Ubuntu package manager on the laptop is not aware of this package. 
That's the downside of course. Note that their installer installed 
binaries all over the system, installs a kernel module, overwrites (asks 
permission to) your xorg.conf and more, so its quite obtrusive. But, 
AFAIK their installer job-quality is ok and has an uninstall feature 
that actually works (as far as I can recall from the past).
Like mentioned before I still downloaded an xorg.conf suggested on 
nvnews.net forums and only after using it everything worked ok. Mail me 
if you need it.


cest tout.
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Re: [SOLVED?] Re: Feedback on Acer laptop w. Linux

[Boaz Rymland]

Michael Shiloh wrote:
I'd love to know if the Arduino IDE and FTDI USB serial port drivers 
function properly. Do you have an Arduino, or can you borrow one from 
someone to test?
Possibly I have one - I just need to know how it looks like to figure 
that out :-)

What's that? This?: http://www.arduino.cc/ . If so, then I don't have one.

If you have that thing and want me to plug it into the USB, mail me 
privately to see if its possible.


Boaz.



Of course the first part (Arduino IDE) can be downloaded for free and 
tested.


IIRC Ubuntu 9.04 includes the FTDI driver already.

Thanks!
Michael

Boaz Rymland wrote:



Hi all,


So I made the move and bought it. Here are my findings:


*Maker + Model:* Acer 5738ZG. That's a little upgraded in comparison 
to the original model suggested - with 4GB RAM and NVIDIA GPU. The 
rest of the specs are the same.


*Distro Installed: *Ubuntu 9.04, amd64.*
*

*Wifi:* worked out of the box (atheros).

*Touchpad:* Worked out of the box, but disabling it and then trying 
to enable it - it is not enabled, until X (or was it machine?) 
restart. Anybody got a link for a solution?


*Card Reader:* Worked out of the box, at least with SD card (didn't 
try other types).


*X: *This laptop model is equipped with NVIDIA G105M chipset. I 
didn't work out of the box: ubuntu installed its latest nvidia 
drivers but those were too old to know this card. When vesa or some 
other default driver was used, X run, but not in optimal resolution 
and no acceleration. I battled it too much apparently and all you 
need to do is install the latest drivers from nvidia (185), skipping 
the ubuntu repos driver, and use a nice(?) xorg.conf I've found on 
the web (for laptops with my GPU/screen specs).


*Power management:* with the nvidia driver mentioned above used, 
power management worked perfectly. I configured my laptop to do as I 
wish upon lead closing (for AC/battery) and it works smoothly. CPU 
Scaling was also perfectly supported.


*Bluetooth? *not on this model.  just ordered a tiny BT USB dongle. 
Hope that it works... .


*WebCam:* not working out of the box. Haven't really tried setting it 
up yet.


*Sound:* worked out of the box.

*Anything else? *mail me for questions... .


Boaz.


Boaz Rymland wrote:


Hi all,


Can anyone provide feedback on the following Acer laptop, or any 
other Acer Linux based laptops? (Interestingly, searching for 
"linux" word in laptop section in zap.co.il shows almost exclusively 
only Acer results: 
http://zap.co.il/models.aspx?sog=C-PCLaptop&keyword=linux 
<http://zap.co.il/models.aspx?sog=C-PCLaptop&keyword=linux>). In 
specific - how well all hardware goodies work in linux - power 
management/scaling, wifi, bluetooth, card reader, X, etc etc...



The model is *Acer Aspire AS5738Z-422G25MN*. It comes with Intel 
Dual Core T4200 and Intel GMA 4500.



Thanks,

Boaz.





 
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Re: touchpad can't be re-enabled after disabled

[Boaz Rymland]

No matter what I do the output is always "TouchpadOff  = 0". Running 
that command didn't induce any change in behavior.



Boaz.


Mark Bloch wrote:


what's the output of :

synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff

if it's 1, you can try this:

synclient TouchpadOff=0


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Re: OT: Digital TV decoder USB sticks

[Boaz Rymland]

Hi,

I bought this toy today.
I'm glad to say that it worked out of the box in Ubuntu 9.04 - or at 
least it appears so:
Kaffeine is happy with it, I do have /dev/dvb/ devices and dmesg seems 
to report that the drivers are ok. I bet the following kernel drivers 
are related: dvb_usb_af9015, af9013, dvb_usb.
Scanning for channels works as well but that's where the party ends - at 
least where I live (in Petach Tikva) I get zero channels reception.
I switched to Windows, installed the little thingy + its software and 
verified that indeed its a matter of reception - no channels on Windows 
too :-(  .


If you need more info let me know.

I'll try it soon on my laptop in another location - I'm anxious to see 
how it works.


Boaz.

geoffrey mendelson wrote:
My son just brought home a flyer from BUG, they are selling a USB 
digital TV decoder stick for 99 NIS if you buy 99 NIS of something else.


If someone buys one, please post if it is supported by Linux.

Geoff.

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Re: OT: Digital TV decoder USB sticks

[Boaz Rymland]

Hi,


Thanks for the input.


Just wanted to update that although the dongle supposed to be working, 
it fails to find any channels:


- drivers are loaded when its pushed into the USB socket. devices are 
appearing under /dev/dvb (IIRC) (tried also chmoding them to 777).
- kaffeine appears to communicate with the dongle ok and when combing 
the frequency scale I do see some high signals along the scan (tried to 
use "auto" area mode, NZ, and several IL suggested configurations as well).

- vlc method described in this thread is not showing any video as well.

- Under Windows, the dongle works ok - finds the Israeli channels with 
no hassle (well, after buying the connecting an amplified antenna. Kudos 
to the experts in our ministry of communications for the lame launch of 
DTT broadcasts [or in other words - what is a trial/testing period for?])).


So, while I remain optimistic about the prospect interoperability of the 
Apex 328 dongle with Linux (Ubuntu 9.04), I wasn't successful in making 
them sing together.



Any pointers, tips, etc would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Boaz.



geoffrey mendelson wrote:



On Sep 17, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Boaz Rymland wrote:


Hi,

I bought this toy today.
I'm glad to say that it worked out of the box in Ubuntu 9.04 - or at 
least it appears so:
Kaffeine is happy with it, I do have /dev/dvb/ devices and dmesg 
seems to report that the drivers are ok. I bet the following kernel 
drivers are related: dvb_usb_af9015, af9013, dvb_usb.
Scanning for channels works as well but that's where the party ends - 
at least where I live (in Petach Tikva) I get zero channels reception.
I switched to Windows, installed the little thingy + its software and 
verified that indeed its a matter of reception - no channels on 
Windows too :-(  .


If you need more info let me know.




This is the information I got from Guy with my annotations about 
frequencies on the bottom:



y...@golem3:~$ cat /home/guy/channels.conf

CH2:51400:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_3_4:FEC_AUTO:QAM_16:TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:HIERARCHY_NONE:512:4112:1 

CH10:51400:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_3_4:FEC_AUTO:QAM_16:TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:HIERARCHY_NONE:513:4113:2 

CH1:51400:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_3_4:FEC_AUTO:QAM_16:TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:HIERARCHY_NONE:514:4114:3 

CH33:51400:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_3_4:FEC_AUTO:QAM_16:TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:HIERARCHY_NONE:515:4115:4 

CH99:51400:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_3_4:FEC_AUTO:QAM_16:TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:HIERARCHY_NONE:516:4116:5 






followed this: 
http://davidwinter.me.uk/articles/2008/02/08/watching-freeview-dvb-t-tv-with-vlc-player-on-ubuntu/ 



vlc dvb-t://frequency=51400:bandwidth=8:inversion=0
does it all.

(this is for the center of israel, for the north and south the 
frequency is

53800

Geoff.

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Re: OT: Digital TV decoder USB sticks

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trying to answer your mail below i noticed that indeed my reply has 
little relevance to linux-il so i'll add my words below...



geoffrey mendelson wrote:



On Sep 27, 2009, at 12:17 AM, Boaz Rymland wrote:


Just wanted to update that although the dongle supposed to be 
working, it fails to find any channels:
- drivers are loaded when its pushed into the USB socket. devices are 
appearing under /dev/dvb (IIRC) (tried also chmoding them to 777).
- kaffeine appears to communicate with the dongle ok and when combing 
the frequency scale I do see some high signals along the scan (tried 
to use "auto" area mode, NZ, and several IL suggested configurations 
as well).

- vlc method described in this thread is not showing any video as well.
- Under Windows, the dongle works ok - finds the Israeli channels 
with no hassle (well, after buying the connecting an amplified 
antenna. Kudos to the experts in our ministry of communications for 
the lame launch of DTT broadcasts [or in other words - what is a 
trial/testing period for?])).


So, while I remain optimistic about the prospect interoperability of 
the Apex 328 dongle with Linux (Ubuntu 9.04), I wasn't successful in 
making them sing together.



What program works under windows? I have not been able to get mine to 
work with the software on the CD, I never get any audio. It does work 
with VLC and DVBviewer which costs as much as the dongle cost me.


I use the plain stock Windows CD, on my Vista. It just works, and works 
ok - with sounds, as I'd expect from a Windows application. If you have 
dual head setup try moving to a single head and test it again. Can't say 
much other than that.




I have not been able to try it on Linux because I found that the 
UBUNTU netbook package does not have VLC on it, and I have to re 
download it, convert it to an ISO and then burn a DVD to install it on 
a memory stick. This is because my ubuntu computers are too slow to 
decode the signal, and I can't afford to mess with repartitoning my 
netbook.
what would putting it on a usb stick help ? does this stick have some 
processor with it? (don't you refer to a simple diskonkey?).


I tried it with some other freeware windows programs and it also could 
not find any channels. The same with two different MacOS programs.

i can imagine the frustration. and the hours those trials take... .


In windows I found that if I save the chanels.conf file I gave you and 
point vlc to it as in "vlc channels.conf" It figures out what to do.


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Re: OT: Digital TV decoder USB sticks

[Boaz Rymland]

oops. was supposed to be sent privately. sorry.

Boaz Rymland wrote:

trying to answer your mail below i noticed that indeed my reply has 
little relevance to linux-il so i'll add my words below...



geoffrey mendelson wrote:



On Sep 27, 2009, at 12:17 AM, Boaz Rymland wrote:


Just wanted to update that although the dongle supposed to be 
working, it fails to find any channels:
- drivers are loaded when its pushed into the USB socket. devices 
are appearing under /dev/dvb (IIRC) (tried also chmoding them to 777).
- kaffeine appears to communicate with the dongle ok and when 
combing the frequency scale I do see some high signals along the 
scan (tried to use "auto" area mode, NZ, and several IL suggested 
configurations as well).

- vlc method described in this thread is not showing any video as well.
- Under Windows, the dongle works ok - finds the Israeli channels 
with no hassle (well, after buying the connecting an amplified 
antenna. Kudos to the experts in our ministry of communications for 
the lame launch of DTT broadcasts [or in other words - what is a 
trial/testing period for?])).


So, while I remain optimistic about the prospect interoperability of 
the Apex 328 dongle with Linux (Ubuntu 9.04), I wasn't successful in 
making them sing together.



What program works under windows? I have not been able to get mine to 
work with the software on the CD, I never get any audio. It does work 
with VLC and DVBviewer which costs as much as the dongle cost me.


I use the plain stock Windows CD, on my Vista. It just works, and 
works ok - with sounds, as I'd expect from a Windows application. If 
you have dual head setup try moving to a single head and test it 
again. Can't say much other than that.




I have not been able to try it on Linux because I found that the 
UBUNTU netbook package does not have VLC on it, and I have to re 
download it, convert it to an ISO and then burn a DVD to install it 
on a memory stick. This is because my ubuntu computers are too slow 
to decode the signal, and I can't afford to mess with repartitoning 
my netbook.
what would putting it on a usb stick help ? does this stick have some 
processor with it? (don't you refer to a simple diskonkey?).


I tried it with some other freeware windows programs and it also 
could not find any channels. The same with two different MacOS programs.

i can imagine the frustration. and the hours those trials take... .


In windows I found that if I save the chanels.conf file I gave you 
and point vlc to it as in "vlc channels.conf" It figures out what to do.


Geoff.




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Re: OT: Where does it count?

[Boaz Rymland]

That's a bit off topic cause indeed you refer to greatness in one's 
profession/occupation/hobby but in any case, i remember the article you 
mentioned and the whole thesis it talks about. There was at least one 
Israeli weekend newspapers article, probably about the relevant 
translated book that talked about this.


The name is Malcolm Gladwell and the following link is about the book 
that talks about that idea:

(hebrew) http://simania.co.il/bookdetails.php?item_id=688839
his web site:
http://www.gladwell.com/index.html

Boaz.


Shachar Shemesh wrote:

Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:


My question is simple: When does the "developer" experience starts 
ticking? (I'm not talking about any specific language here). Do the 
years of writing those small programs/scripts count as a "developer 
years"? or does the clock starts ticking when I'm a full time programmer?


Partiality of occupation is hardly a factor, but experience is. I 
don't have the link, (I think it was on slashdot a while back), but 
someone once claimed that the difference between a programmer with 
greatness potential and actual great programmers is X hours of 
experience (I don't remember what X was, but it translated to about 3 
or 5 years of full time job experience). The article claimed that the 
same X applies to other areas too (the article used the Beatles as a 
primary example).


My point is that in order to realize your potential in any field, you 
need to invest a huge amount of time practicing it. This is almost 
impossible to do unless you make it your full time occupation. From 
personal experience, I think the article's quoted X may even be a 
little on the low side.


So, if you did mostly system tasks, but did about 10% development, you 
will see how, for practical reasons, that leaves very little of your 
actual development experience.


I should point out that the article talks about greatness. Assuming 
you have the potential to become a great programmer, this is a 
requirement for becoming great actually happening. Personally, I pride 
myself on seeing programmers, in certain cases total novices, and 
saying to myself "he has the potential". They are not great 
programmers, but you can see that with enough experience, they will 
be. That said, even those that do not possess the potential for 
"greatness" advance significantly with experience. At a guesstimate, 
about 60% of the population can become acceptable quality programmers 
given enough experience (of course, initially they will suck) and a 
supporting environment ("supporting" includes not accepting mediocre). 
Of course, most of those will quit, because programming is a horrid 
job to do if you don't like it, but this is just to point you as to why


Shachar
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Re: ISP Suggestion

[Boaz Rymland]

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:45:25 +0200, geoffrey mendelson
 wrote:
> On Oct 26, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Justin wrote:
> 
>>  I've been with Interal until now.  But they are merging with Bezeq  
>> Ben Liumi.  I hate BBL, and more than that their quality sucks.
>>
>> Does anyone have a recommendation for a Linux friendly ISP, that  
>> doesn't block ports and can provide reasonable, low latency  
>> connections?
> 
> 
> Netvision fits that. 012 does not.
> 
> BTW, with a router, all ISP's are Linux friendly.

True regarding connection (and security is better with router, AFAIK), but
not so regarding port 25 outbound comm. Some ISPs block it, as mentioned
earlier in this thread. But, I think that a simple phone call to the ISP's
tech service should resolve that (it resolved it for me, in the past, and
as far as I can tell this is a standard procedure that is probably
available with all ISPs).

Boaz.

> 
> Geoff.

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Re: Shekem Electric selling desktops with Linux

[Boaz Rymland]

I can add that when searching for Linux powered laptops here I found 
that several stores (not the big elec. chains stores IIRC) sell linux 
powered Acer laptops. These laptops, and I suspect that the desktop as 
well, have Linpus on them. They also, probably, contain some binary 
drivers from Acer, which isn't open source nor can I be sure they're 
install-able on other linux distros easily.


Eventually, since I want to have as hassle-free Linux OS as I can (I 
don't miss my Gentoo days... :-), I installed Ubuntu on an Acer laptop 
(thankfully, almost all HW is supported on it, to a workable degree) and 
they (we) all live(d) happily ever after.


Boaz.

Gabor Szabo wrote:

I usually don't think much of the big electronic networks when it comes
to buying a computer but yesterday why flipping through the week-end
papers I pleasantly surprised that Shekem Electric is selling
Acer desktops with Linux installed.

http://www.shekem-electric.co.il/?CategoryID=281&ArticleID=1326
http://www.shekem-electric.co.il/?CategoryID=281&ArticleID=1325


Does anyone here have experience with them?


Gabor

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Re: need help with PHP open source class

[Boaz Rymland]

Not all PEAR classes require depending classes on the machine. For example,
Log class. I think that it all depends on your exact needs. Also, not all
classes were born equal, in terms of quality. Consider that as well.
I recommend you consult also on php-israel mailing list:
http://www.php-israel.org/

Boaz.

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:37:20 +0200, Uri Even-Chen  wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Omer Zak  wrote:
>> On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 10:42 +0200, Uri Even-Chen wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Meir Kriheli 
wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > IMO PHP developers should be aware of PEAR [1] and use it when
>>> > possible. The
>>> > repo includes a whois class called Net_Whois [2],  maintained -
>>> > current
>>> > stable released last month (feature request).
>>> >
>>> > [1] http://pear.php.net/
>>> > [2] http://pear.php.net/package/Net_Whois
>>>
>>> Sorry, I'm not using PEAR.  If you can implement the same
>>> functionality using Net_Whois - I don't mind, but I don't want to
>>> install it myself.  The PHPwhois class is good, and returns good
>>> results for most domain names.
>>
>> What are the reasons against using PEAR (besides, of course, having to
>> install additional packages in your development and deployment systems)?
> 
> It's too complicated, I'm not familar with PEAR.  As I said, if one of
> you wants to do it, I don't mind using PEAR, but I don't want to do it
> alone.  Also, my program uses the PHPwhois class already, so I might
> have to change the program itself.  I prefer using PHPwhois and
> improving it.
> 
> Uri.
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Re: What to do with a constant flow of attempts to login to my compuet?

[Boaz Rymland]

This is so common these days I heard years ago people filtering out such
messages.

Just check your machine carefully - I once had a break-in that was caused
from a stupid chain of mistakes: i switched sshd to listen on its default
port (22) for some time (instead of some arbitrary port as it was used to
be) + router forwarded 22 connections to the linux machine (as needed for
SSH to work) + yes, there was a little issue of a test user I once created,
named "test" with password "test"... . Violla! a robot sounded the "bingo!"
alarm somewhere... . I had to reinstall my machine (which wasn't that bad,
but still...).

Lesson? carefully check your machine's "entry points" and as much as you
can - try not to assume things to be in certain status before checking that
(like, "I don't have stupid test users on machines" - check your configured
users) as that can fail you. In other words - don't presume anything. Check
it, to evaluate your status.

Boaz.

On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 16:34:29 +0200, Gabor Szabo  wrote:
> I just noticed someone bombarding my machine trying to login via ssh.
>>From auth.log
> 
> Jan  3 06:31:48 s6 sshd[22774]: Failed password for invalid user
> amavisd from 202.138.142.216 port 35172 ssh2
> Jan  3 06:31:48 s6 sshd[22773]: Failed password for invalid user
> clamav from 202.138.142.216 port 39941 ssh2
> Jan  3 06:31:49 s6 sshd[22780]: Invalid user clamav from 202.138.142.216
> Jan  3 06:31:49 s6 sshd[22780]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): check pass; user
> unknown
> Jan  3 06:31:49 s6 sshd[22780]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): authentication
> failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=202.138.142.216
> Jan  3 06:31:49 s6 sshd[22781]: Invalid user appserver from
202.138.142.216
> Jan  3 06:31:49 s6 sshd[22781]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): check pass; user
> unknown
> Jan  3 06:31:49 s6 sshd[22781]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): authentication
> failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=202.138.142.216
> Jan  3 06:31:52 s6 sshd[22780]: Failed password for invalid user
> clamav from 202.138.142.216 port 35699 ssh2
> Jan  3 06:31:52 s6 sshd[22781]: Failed password for invalid user
> appserver from 202.138.142.216 port 40470 ssh2
> 
> 
> So what is your suggestion. What to do with it?
> 
> Gabor
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Re: What to do with a constant flow of attempts to login to my compuet?

[Boaz Rymland]

To add my list:

* verify there are as least as possible users on the machine. Unused user?
either purge or disable (login shell set to /bin/false or the like; home
dir set to /not/here).
* verify users on machine not have easy to guess password.
* indeed move sshd to listen to its NON default port
* shutdown and remove any unneeded software/services including and
specifically any web applications that are not used.
* keep your installed applications updated and keep an eye on software
updates. I once had an unsuccessful break-in attempt that was trying to
exploit some bug in a webmail application that was not used. The bug was
two weeks old at the time. Both of the break in cases I described were of
my 24/7 home machine I had running for years (but not anymore), not some
high traffic IP address so this is rather common these days.

Boaz.

On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:51:05 -0500, Boaz Rymland  wrote:
> This is so common these days I heard years ago people filtering out such
> messages.
> 
> Just check your machine carefully - I once had a break-in that was caused
> from a stupid chain of mistakes: i switched sshd to listen on its default
> port (22) for some time (instead of some arbitrary port as it was used to
> be) + router forwarded 22 connections to the linux machine (as needed for
> SSH to work) + yes, there was a little issue of a test user I once
created,
> named "test" with password "test"... . Violla! a robot sounded the
"bingo!"
> alarm somewhere... . I had to reinstall my machine (which wasn't that
bad,
> but still...).
> 
> Lesson? carefully check your machine's "entry points" and as much as you
> can - try not to assume things to be in certain status before checking
that
> (like, "I don't have stupid test users on machines" - check your
configured
> users) as that can fail you. In other words - don't presume anything.
Check
> it, to evaluate your status.
> 
> Boaz.
> 
> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 16:34:29 +0200, Gabor Szabo  wrote:
>> I just noticed someone bombarding my machine trying to login via ssh.
>>>From auth.log
>> 
>> Jan  3 06:31:48 s6 sshd[22774]: Failed password for invalid user
>> amavisd from 202.138.142.216 port 35172 ssh2
>> Jan  3 06:31:48 s6 sshd[22773]: Failed password for invalid user
>> clamav from 202.138.142.216 port 39941 ssh2
>> Jan  3 06:31:49 s6 sshd[22780]: Invalid user clamav from 202.138.142.216
>> Jan  3 06:31:49 s6 sshd[22780]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): check pass; user
>> unknown
>> Jan  3 06:31:49 s6 sshd[22780]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): authentication
>> failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=202.138.142.216
>> Jan  3 06:31:49 s6 sshd[22781]: Invalid user appserver from
> 202.138.142.216
>> Jan  3 06:31:49 s6 sshd[22781]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): check pass; user
>> unknown
>> Jan  3 06:31:49 s6 sshd[22781]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): authentication
>> failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=202.138.142.216
>> Jan  3 06:31:52 s6 sshd[22780]: Failed password for invalid user
>> clamav from 202.138.142.216 port 35699 ssh2
>> Jan  3 06:31:52 s6 sshd[22781]: Failed password for invalid user
>> appserver from 202.138.142.216 port 40470 ssh2
>> 
>> 
>> So what is your suggestion. What to do with it?
>> 
>> Gabor
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Re: Kernel/Memory problem.

[Boaz Rymland]

Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
> 
> > I notice that there is a message there about maybe a problem with my RAM.
> > Is there any tests that i can run in order to verify that the RAM is really
> > the thing that made the kernel to crush ?
> 
> There's an application you can find on Freshmeat called
> memtest86. It installs itself as a boot "image" which you
> can boot by setting it up in LILO. It runs by itself (not under
> Linux), so it can test all of the RAM. It's better
> than the BIOS check, but it's not much of a stress check.
> The summer heat might've provided the stress?
> See the GCC-SIG11 FAQ for more scary RAM problems and
> stress-test ideas.
> 
> Speaking of NMI, I recall the kernel also suggests to look
> for APM settings in the BIOS. Do look and disable if enabled.

Indeed, NMI reports are used by both older memory modules - to report
some problem, and for some communication between hardware components and
the BIOS regarding APM.
Check out a thread I started lately when I received those messages,
though in a non-harmfull manner, and dug a bit about that. Basically,
what I've just said summarizes it all.

Could your problem be indeed a memory problem ?

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Re: XFSTT

[Boaz Rymland]

Noam Meltzer wrote:
> 
> I'm sure this was talked here before, but I really need you help. Maybe
> if some1 would contact me privately, this would  be nice.
> I have a newlly installed SuSE 6.4 system (with what it comes, kernel,
> kde, etc. didn't have the power to check and remember) I worked before
> with Linux and even than I didn't manage to Install a TrueType font
> server.
> I wish some1 would explain me what to do, step by step, please.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Noam Meltzer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

http://www.egroups.com/message/iglu/662?

I think its still valid, but the instructions there are for RH system.
You need to check closely that it suits you, or make it suit you!... :-)
.

Also, that message (posted also at Linux-IL) opened a little thread
about that with other suggestions, and corrections. I would have checked
those too.

Good luck,
Boaz.

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Re: Installing OpenSSH

[Boaz Rymland]

Ira Abramov wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Richard Fiedler wrote:
> 
> > I heard what all of you were saying about security and installed OpenSSL,
> > OpenSSH, and the OpenSSH Server.
> 
> SSL for the webserver?

If i'm not mistaken, openSSL are the libs that openSSH needs (required
by the rpm's of openSSH)

> 
> > How do I get this all to work now? Is there no configuration? I wish to
> > connect with my Macintosh Powerbook G3. How do I do it?
> 
> 
> > Am I secure now?
> 
> most probably an IPchains script should help.

I wish it was that nice and simple, but you're on the way to be better
secured. I'm hardly a security expert, but I'm aware of those matters
(and, its on my "Waiting list"...). 
If you intend investing some resources on this matter, I suggest taking
that IPchains advice from Ira (Ira, I made a quick search through IGLU
site and IGLU on Egroups site, and couldn't find that ipchains script
you posted a few months ago. Can you repost that link/script ? [perhaps
putting it on Egoups-IGLU files]). I also suggest using TCPwrapper, as
another line of defense (and early warning). TCPwrapper are pretty easy
to set up.
OpenSSH documentation really lacks. You can start with
http://www.tac.nyc.ny.us/~kim/ssh/
General security matters can be found at
http://www.securityportal.com/lasg/
But there are many, many sites on the net on this subject.

Boaz.

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Re: Copying files between systems

[Boaz Rymland]

Richard Fiedler wrote:
> 
> On a local ethernet I need to copy a filesystem to a directory on anaother
> system.
> 
> ftp will get me files across but I don't know how to make it copy
> directories.
> 
> Can someone help?
> 

Cost-effectiveness: ncftp (it should be on you system, or all you need
is to install that client rpm and man ncftp).

Boaz.

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Re: KDE stops create any windows

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> Lev Olshvang wrote:
> 
> >Hello !
> >
> > I use Mandrake 7.0 KDE desktop.
> >
> > >From some moment, any attempt to create console window or any
> > other selected from menu applications does nothing.

I'm using kde 1.1.something at work on a daily basis.
I'm also noticing times at which I cant lunch new terminal's etc via the
panel, so I think it's "normal".

> >
> > Existing windows behaves normal.

same for me. restarting kde sets all happy.

> >
> > I`d like to know whether it is possible to trace KDE events and actions
> > ?

dont know (strace ? doesn't seem to apply here), but you'll make the kde
team happy if you would ! :-)


boaz.

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Re: Can the LDP be mirrored again?

[Boaz Rymland]

Shaul Karl wrote:
> 
> > Shaul Karl wrote:
> > >
> > > I really liked the LDP (linux Documentation Project) mirror that used to be in
> > > www.linux.org.il.
> > > It gave me fast convenient access to the LDP.
> > > Can it be mirrored again?
> > >
> > > As far as I am aware of there are no other mirrors of the LDP in Israel. Am I
> > > right?
> > > --
> >
> > http://www.docs.cs.huji.ac.il/LDP/
> >
> > And it seems to be pretty up-to-date, too.
> >
> 
> Not Found
> 
>

(works for me too)

This is probably a change of older link at huji where LDP was all along.

update your bookmarks from
http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/support/docs/Linux/mdw/
to: http://www.docs.cs.huji.ac.il/LDP/

(isn't there no one here from the huji team that can verify this
"officially"?)

Boaz.

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MySQL latest beta versions

[Boaz Rymland]

Hello ppl,

I'm looking for some impressions / feedback from people who run/tested
the latest MySQL alpha versions (latest is 3.23.22 , from yesterday). At
my work, we use a stable older version MySQL and we experience problem
especially when it's databases are becoming large. Sometimes we get
MySQL to use 97% cpu, and this is when it gets stuck and stops
responding. This is hardly a desirable situation with a server and we
are considering switching to a different SQL server, but I'm still
trying to tweak MySQL, or just make an upgrade.

My major concerns are: stability, compatibility, performance -
especially with large databases, and anything else you find important.

Many thanks!,
Boaz.

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Re: resolution problems

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Noam Ben Haim wrote:
> 
> HI all
> 
> I installed a RH6.2 on a new machine and no matter what I do, I can't get a
> resolution of more than 640x480 on XFree86.
> 
> I tried it with the following video cards:
> MACH64 Ati rage II + DVD (4MB)
> S3 Virge (4MB)
> S3 Trio64+ (2MB)
> 
> is it not possible? not even with the Rage?
>

Setting up ATI Rage II is trivial on linux, but I dont mean to upset
you...  .
Try both configuration tools - Xconfigurator and XF86Setup (the latter
will need you to install another simple XFree server). Also, make sure
you select reasonable options about the card and the monitor.
If you're not sure about those, dont break you're head. The best thing
to do is to get in touch with someone who could help you, preferably on
site rather than via email. (I can offer myself via email, if you're
stuck).

Boaz.

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Optimise your HD (IDE only)

[Boaz Rymland]

Hi there,

Just check out the link below. It's for optimising your IDE drives. 

BUT, be very carefull with that: obvious disclaimers apply...

http://www.linux.com/tuneup/database.phtml/Hardware/000788.html

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Re: Strange very high load

[Boaz Rymland]

I've seen this enough at work, and if it's caused by the same problem,
generally speaking, this isn't the NIC driver (we have dozens of
eepro100 cards here, and none related problems). 
If I'm right than this is caused by some proccess/connection (not sure
about that) getting cut-off at some brutal way and is left hanging. This
causes that ridiculous loads, though If it's like the problems I've
seen, then "top" wont show any proccess occupying so much CPU time, nor
any other parameter which It measures.

I assume that it's likely that you've lost some connection. Be it NFS
(which can cause netscape to do that) or perhaps a GUI SQL client trying
desperately to talk to it's server. 
Check out what went down as far as networked services you use, or any
network based services (which means almost anything if you use NFS...).
Also, to find that misbehaving proccess, switch to terminal
(C+A+F1/2/3...) and try killing (with -9 flag) each suspected proccess
(kill the father though, and verify that it's dead! "vidoo hariga"...
;-). When you've succeed killing that proccess immediatly your machine
will return to normal loads and operation.


Boaz.


Schlomo Schapiro wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have this combination. I already exchanged the driver to the e100 one
> from Intel, but no change. Was this on the NFS server or the NFS client
> ? I am using knfsd on this machine and will try the normal one, too.
> 
> Thanks, Schlomo
> 
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Elya Ga Yerr wrote:
> 
> > Hi!
> > I saw very similar problem caused by nfs mount hangs,
> > especially it happens when using nfs over tcp and with eepro100 card.
> > If you have one of above the odds are this is it.
> >  Hope it helps
> > Elya
> >
> > Schlomo Schapiro wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am suddenly getting a very high load (>10) but the actual number of
> > > processes stays more or less constant. Also the CPU utilisation is low
> > > (10%). This is a PIII 500MHz with 256 MB RAM (which was not detected
> > > automatically, btw). The problem is that this high load is blocking all
> > > kind of programs and I can't run new programs.
> > >
> > > Did anybody experience such a problem ?
> > >
> > > How can I find out what program is causing this high load (as I understand
> > > the load reflects the number of processes spawned per second. It seems
> > > that there is a program that spawns all the time new processes, how can I
> > > find it ?)
> > >
> > > Schlomo
> > >

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Syslog messages to a remote machine

[Boaz Rymland]

Hi folks,

I'm trying to set a server machine to send it's syslog messages to my machine.
For that I already managed to send all messages with :
*.* @my_machine

I've verified that indeed I get this on my machine with "tcpdump port 514" . I
can see messages poring in.
But, I cant seem to configure my local syslogd to do somethings with those.
I checked the documentation and found nothing about that. I also tried to add:
"in.syslog : the_remote_machines_IP" line in /etc/hosts.allow, but it didnt help
too.

Can you tip me on how to see (and log) those messages on the remote machine ?(my
machine).

TIA,
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Re: Syslog messages to a remote machine

[Boaz Rymland]

Boaz Rymland wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I'm trying to set a server machine to send it's syslog messages to my machine.
> For that I already managed to send all messages with :
> *.* @my_machine
> 
> I've verified that indeed I get this on my machine with "tcpdump port 514" . I
> can see messages poring in.
> But, I cant seem to configure my local syslogd to do somethings with those.
> I checked the documentation and found nothing about that. I also tried to add:
> "in.syslog : the_remote_machines_IP" line in /etc/hosts.allow, but it didnt help
> too.
> 
> Can you tip me on how to see (and log) those messages on the remote machine ?(my
> machine).
> 
> TIA,
> Boaz.
> 

Well, found it myself... ;-)

It's not in the configuration files but rather with a -r flag to the syslogd. On
a RH machine, edit /etc/rc.d/init.d/syslog file to add that flag there.

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Re: testing server load

[Boaz Rymland]

guy keren wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Aviram Jenik wrote:
> 
> > Can anybody recommend a good way to really check my server load? I'm
> > currently checking the load using uptime (and check the average load
> > values), but this hardly seems a good way to really know whether the server
> > is 'sweating'.
> > Can anybody recommend any better way?
> 
> you should be collecting info about CPU usage, disk IO, page in/out
> operations, network traffic, etc. then make graphs of all of them, and
> make this data visible some way. MRTG could be a good tool for visualizing
> this data, provided that you could write the extensins to track resources
> that it cannot track out-of-the-box.
> 
> no single parameter would tell you the whole truth.
> 
> to see disk ip and paging, use 'vmstat' (other unices also have 'iostat'
> and 'sar'). note about vmstat - the first line of output is usually
> meaningless. running vmstat in a mannaer such as 'vmstat 60' will produce
> an output line every 60 seconds. perform that into some file, have that
> file's contents processed and injected into MRTG, and there you are.
> 

Indeed, I can highly recommend vmstat. It'll show almost anything you need
besides network load. If you have enough technical understanding, than read it's
man page - it's beautifully short (but good!) ;-)  . vmstat is also very
comfortable for loggin your data into a file ready-to-be-parsed-later (vmstat
-n).

If you have a high sys% which you wanna check, one thing to do is to use tcpdump
to see perhaps faulty machines floding your server with errornous request (and
forcing your serever to reply something similar to "cant do that - error...").
Or just the most loading machines. I encountered this recently in my work.

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Re: Kernel reports that I have 64MB of RAM instead of 256MB

[Boaz Rymland]

Shlomi Fish wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I have installed Mandrake 7.1 here at work. When I'm using a kernel which I
> compile myself and try to load linux by using loadlin, I encounter the
> following problem: I have 256 MB of RAM, but free reports that I only have
> 64 MB.
> 
> Now, I tried both the 2.2.15 kernel that comes with the distribution (it
> has some patches such as ReiserFS and supermount), as well as the vanilla
> 2.2.16 kernel with the ResierFS patch. (My Linux partition is ReiserFS). I
> tried to compile with both the 1GB memory limit and 2GB memory limit.
> 
> If I load Linux by using the boot-diskette which I prepared during the
> Mandrake installatation, I can see the entire 256 MB of RAM.
> 
> My system specs are:
> Pentium III 667 MHz
> 256 MB of RAM
> Two 15GB Seagate Hard-disks: one of them Win98 second edition and the other
> Mandrake 7.1 linux.
> 
> What am I doing wrong and how can I make sure that my custom kernel loads fine?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Shlomi Fish
> 

Sounds like the popular-and-easily-solved problem:
You need to pass the kernel, at boot time, a parameter apecifying how much RAM
you have.
This is easily done with lilo (/etc/lilo.conf on RH systems):

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-5.0
label=linux
read-only
root=/dev/hda4
relevant line --->  append = "mem=192M"
password="yossi"
restricted


I cant exactly recall the way you pass that parameter with loadlin, but you
could easily find out with loadlin docs.

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Re: Kernel reports that I have 64MB of RAM instead of 256MB

[Boaz Rymland]

Boaz Rymland wrote:
> 
> Shlomi Fish wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have installed Mandrake 7.1 here at work. When I'm using a kernel which I
> > compile myself and try to load linux by using loadlin, I encounter the
> > following problem: I have 256 MB of RAM, but free reports that I only have
> > 64 MB.
> >
> > Now, I tried both the 2.2.15 kernel that comes with the distribution (it
> > has some patches such as ReiserFS and supermount), as well as the vanilla
> > 2.2.16 kernel with the ResierFS patch. (My Linux partition is ReiserFS). I
> > tried to compile with both the 1GB memory limit and 2GB memory limit.
> >
> > If I load Linux by using the boot-diskette which I prepared during the
> > Mandrake installatation, I can see the entire 256 MB of RAM.
> >
> > My system specs are:
> > Pentium III 667 MHz
> > 256 MB of RAM
> > Two 15GB Seagate Hard-disks: one of them Win98 second edition and the other
> > Mandrake 7.1 linux.
> >
> > What am I doing wrong and how can I make sure that my custom kernel loads fine?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Shlomi Fish
> >
> 
> Sounds like the popular-and-easily-solved problem:
> You need to pass the kernel, at boot time, a parameter apecifying how much RAM
> you have.
> This is easily done with lilo (/etc/lilo.conf on RH systems):
> 
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-5.0
> label=linux
> read-only
> root=/dev/hda4
> relevant line --->  append = "mem=192M"
> password="yossi"
> restricted
> 
> I cant exactly recall the way you pass that parameter with loadlin, but you
> could easily find out with loadlin docs.
> 
> Boaz.


Forgot to mention, DO NOT pass a "ram=..." parameter with more ram than you
actually have ! it can be critical if you have only one kernel. It'll cause as
far as I've seen, the kernel stucks at boot time (even before init comes up,
leaving you with a useless system). If you have more kernels, you can always
choose any of those and update lilo (or whatever bootloader you use), and then
reboot to your favorite kernel.

boaz.

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Babylon for Linux

[Boaz Rymland]

Well, if you're interested,

http://www.babylon.com/newsite/support/platforms.html

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Re: problem with HP-C1537A tape drive(DDS2,DDs3)

[Boaz Rymland]

I hope It'll help:

try setting the -B option for the dump command. from dump's man page:
-
-B records
 The number of 1 KB blocks per volume.  This option overrides the
 calculation of tape size based on length and density.
---

In other words, you tell dump how long your tape is. So if you enter -B 
you tell dump that it has *very* big (obviously not possible) tape media. Then
its up to you to calcualte the backup needs with regard to tape volume needed. 
This causes dump to stop from telling you "The tape media is full - please
replace..."

I use this in my work. ( I think this is what is quoted below)

Boaz.

avishaya wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have tried to backup with dump to a tape drive model
> HP-C1537A(dds2,dds3)
> on  (symbios scsi  - ncr53c8xx) on linux box(version 6 - kernel
> 2.2.12-20).
> Yes, the OS recognize the tape and load the "st" module(scsi id 2).
> 
> when i type : mt -f /dev/nst0 stat (ofcourse when i put DDS3 media)
> 
> SCSI 2 tape drive:
> File number=1, block number=0, partition=0.
> Tape block size 0 bytes. Density code 0x25 (DDS-3).
> Soft error count since last status=0
> General status bits on (8101):
> EOF ONLINE IM_REP_EN
> 
> when i want to "dump" even the smallest partition( /boot - 20MB)
> 
> dumping /dev/sda5
>   DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sun Sep 17 15:21:57 2000
>   DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
>   DUMP: Dumping /dev/sda5 (/home) to /dev/nst0
>   DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
>   DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
>   DUMP: estimated 5897597 tape blocks on 1.44 tape(s).
>   DUMP: Volume 1 started at: Sun Sep 17 15:22:06 2000
>   DUMP: End of tape detected
>   DUMP: Closing /dev/nst0
>   DUMP: Volume 1 completed at: Sun Sep 17 15:22:29 2000
>   DUMP: Volume 1 took 0:00:23
>   DUMP: Volume 1 transfer rate: 2 KB/s
>   DUMP: Change Volumes: Mount volume #2
>   DUMP: Is the new volume mounted and ready to go?: ("yes" or "no")
> DUMP: "Yes" or "No"?
> 
> Don`t be mistake of the size of  the partition above.it occures on every
> single partition i want to dump
> this is only the log of my backup script which begins to dump firstly
> the most important data(/home)
> but even , if i try manually to dump the /boot partition (or /opt), i
> can`t.
> 
> When i "tail" the /var/log/messages , this is what i get:
> 
> Sep 17 13:28:48 localhost kernel: st0: Error with sense data: [valid=0]
> Info fld=0x0, Current st09:00: sense key Aborted Command
> Sep 17 13:28:48 localhost kernel: Additional sense indicates Data phase
> error
> 
> Now, i know that it`s not an hardware prbolem(to be sure, i configured
> it on ULTRA SPARC station -
>solaris 2.6 + windows nt workstation and it workes without any
> problem.
> I also use new media.
> sure , i used an old Dynatek tape before and it worked fine , untill it
> died.
> And yes i tried to play with dump arguments( dump 0usf 410 .)
> and yes i "played" with mt options. but without any luck
> 
> Any ideas
> 
> Thanks
> Avishay
> 
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Re: Davicom modem drivers

[Boaz Rymland]

Yoav Grosswirth wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have a Davicom 33.6 modem and a redhat 7 installed
> I've tried to fined a driver for the modem (I don't think it's a win-modem)
> but with out success.
> where can I search for the driver or what can I do if There's not one
> available.
> 
> TNX,
> 
> Yoav Grosswirth
> Linux / Unix Courses Coordinator.
> 

Are you sure you need drivers ? if it's not a winmodem then you probably need no
drivers.
on the system with it installed, try minicom. just run minicom, and within it,
try to talk to /dev/cau0...3 (COM ports 1->4). when you get some OK message try
ATI1 ATI2... etc' you should very easily see that you actually speak with you r
modem. You've now found the com port. 
Now I suggest using Kppp (KDE application) to make a dial-up connection to the
net. (or wvdial text dialer).

BTW, Davicom chipset ? is this a Dynamode modem ? if so, and its verified *not*
a winmodem (jumperless/ISApnp), then you should be able to operate it with no
problem under linux. (one way iis to use the instructions above).

If you have more Q, you can ask me, as I have a Dynamode 33.6 modem at home...
(with a Davicom chipset).

good luck.
boaz.

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Re: Davicom modem drivers

[Boaz Rymland]

Alex Dubrovsky wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Boaz Rymland wrote:

> Its /dev/ttyS0...3
> AFAIK cua (not cau) are obsolete

right. I didn't want to clobber him with terms and acronyms. Also, I meant to
sent that message personally, but checked that too late... :-)  
I guess its something in Aduva this morning... the weather ? the coffee machine
? 
Only the Tux knows...


Boaz.

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Re: question about using cvs through ssh

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Jean-Daniel PAUGET wrote:
> 
> (this is not particularly .il related though)
> 
> I want to use ssh instead of rsh in order to access a remote cvs tree.
> I set the two environment variables needed like this :
> my cvs tree :
> CVSROOT=:ext:remotecvs.domain.local:/home/cvsroot
> (the local tree works perfectly, of course)
> my rsh-like facility :
> CVS_RSH=ssh
> 
> I can then check out :
> > cvs co mymodule
> U mymodules/allfiles OK
> 
> I want then to release :
> > cvs release -d mymodule
> You have [x] altered files in this repository.
> Are you sure you want to release (and delete) directory `mymodule':
> ** `release' aborted by user choice.
> 
> the release is aborted just as if someone had answered "no" in my place!
> this behaviour doesn't occurs if I use rsh...!
> 
> any idea ?
> does anyone around there uses cvs with ssh ?
> 
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You mention in the beginning of your beginning that this Q isn't il specific.
Well this reply isn't directly related to your specific Q, but rather more
generally to CVS... ;-)

CVS has some excellent free/GPL'd documentation on the net.
*It starts with the CVS "bible", a.k.a "the Cederqvist" (the name of the person
written that book and, IIRC, CVS original author). This book came with my CVS
rpm on my RedHat, so I guess it comes with most tarballs/rpms/debs/etc'. This is
the most comprehensive reference out there for CVS, again, AFAIK.
* I can recommend you this site: http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/ which is written
by Karl Fogel, another important name in the history of CVS (and present times
too...).

Both of these sources contain excellent, industry standard, but free
documentation for CVS. I highly recommend them, both as short tutorials, and
long long references (they contain tutorial chapters or similar short chapters).

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Re: how to work with CVS?

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> Fialckove OR wrote:
> 
> hi
> 
> i need to work with cvs
> 
> how do i get the list of files that in the server?
> how do i upload file?
> how di i replace file?
> 
> thanks
> Or Fialckove
> Kde Israel

I've got the perfect answer for you, IMHO. No kiddin':

http://www.red-bean.com/~kfogel/cvs-intro.html

I know. It might not be as immediate as you expect. But still, it might be the
best short intro to CVS on the web.

Good luck,
Boaz.

BTW, there was a thread or two lately here about CVS documentation. you might
wanna browse them in Linux-IL archives:
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Re: KDE 2.0 final & the Israeli aspect

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Eli Marmor wrote:
> 
> Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> 
> > Hebrew:
> > * For viewing Logical and Visual pages - you'll need true type font's - elmar
> > fonts look specially ugly (no offense Eli - I know that what you could
> 
> "Offense"?  Why?  This is what I've always said...
> Anyway, let me fix you nevertheless: Instead of "TrueType", you should
> write "Scalable". There are two types of scalable fonts supported by
> current X (after ignoring Speedo): Type1 and TrueType. While the Windows
> fonts are TrueType, my fonts are Type1. The requirement is not for
> TrueType in particular, but for scalable.
> 
> In any case, I think Hetz deserves a "Yshar-Koach".
> --
> Eli Marmor
> 

As I work a room next to Hetz I propose myself for giving him a literal (rather
than virtual) "chapcha" from all of Israeli Linux users! that will be my modest
contribution to the community! ;-)

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Re: how to work with CVS?

[Boaz Rymland]

> Fialckove OR wrote:
> 
> hi
> 
> i need to work with cvs
> 
> how do i get the list of files that in the server?
> how do i upload file?
> how di i replace file?
> 
> thanks
> Or Fialckove
> Kde Israel

I've got the perfect answer for you. No kiddin' (IMHO):

http://www.red-bean.com/~kfogel/cvs-intro.html

I know. I might not be as immediate as you expect. But still, it might be the
best short intro to CVS on the web.

Good luck,
Boaz.

BTW, there was a thread or two lately here about CVS documentation. you might
wanna browse them in Linux-IL archives:
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Re: networking problem

[Boaz Rymland]

Ury Segal wrote:
> 
> Sagi Bashari wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Noam Ben Haim wrote:
> >
> > > hello all.
> > > I have a home network, consists of 2 Win2000 computers, and a linux (RH6.2)
> > > one.
> > > I can ping to any machine from any machine, but since the modem is on one of
> > > the windows machines, I want to use it as a gateway, with dial-on-demand. I
> > > managed to do this for the other win2000 machine, but for some reason, I
> > > cant make the linux machine do the same. when I try to ping to a an address
> > > outside my network, I get "network is unreachable". what should I do next?
> >
> > You need to define your windows ip as your gateway.
> >
> > Try to run:
> > /sbin/route add -net windowsip netmask 0.0.0.0
> 
> I suspect it will not work, unless the man have real IP address
> on his linux box, and the windows machine knows how to route
> back.

As far as I understand the situation not the route command above nor Ury's
remark is relevant. AFAIK, since Sagi already have an internal network
*functioning*, his Linux box, which can use the internal network, will already
have routing to the local network, unrelated to the IPs used, be it legal (?),
or non-routable IP (much more likely). If the windows gateway does masquarading
which *works* for the other winblows machine, then all Sagi needs to do on his
Linux box is to define a default GW:

/sbin/route add default gw 

If the M$ gateway somehow enables others share it's internet connection in
another way, than Linux should utilize that way to speak to the M$ gateway.

Obviously, I recommend using Masquarading on your local Linux box, but this
requires quite amount of spare time to learn, if you dont control those
networking subjects. But, doing so will enable you to use some all the other
free benefits coming with Linux - Firewalling, Service monitoring (tcpd),
extensive logging, etc' etc' etc' . These do not come free on Winblows... .

Anyway, some more info will surely help debug your problem (IPs used, routing
table on Linux...)

boaz.
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Re: path

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is going to sound like a silly question, but after looking in every HOWTO
> I could think of and even on the net, I still can't find the answer to what
> must be a very trivial question.
> 
> How do I add a directory to the PATH? I want to add a directory that contains
> all sorts of scripts I use regularly. I tried:
> 
> PATH=$PATH:/data1/perl; export PATH
> 
> but that only adds the directory to the terminal session I'm in - I want this
> **always** added to the path when I boot.
> 

If you're interested complimenting you're knowledge in documentation lookup,
search for "bash configuration files..." :
$HOME/{.bashrc,.bash_login,..history,.bash_logout} , /etc/profile  

and I'm sure there are some more... ;-)

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Re: OT: Crossover Ethernet cable

[Boaz Rymland]

I hope I'm not misleading. AFAIK, things goes like that:

There are two pairs of cables used out of the eight in the RJ-45 jack your
using. 
They are attached to pins 1+2  and 3+6. In regular connection, the wirings go
like that:
cable numberfunction
1   I-ground
2   I-signal
-
3   II-ground
6   II-signal

In crossover connection things should look like this:
cable numberfunction
1   II-ground
2   II-signal
-
3   I-ground
6   I-signal


That's all there is!... :-)

Hope it helps, not to mention - hope it's right... ;-)

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> 
> I spent last evening trying to connect Mandrake laptop to any of my M$ boxes
> using 10BaseT crossover cable.
> I don't want to purchase a hub, and according to the theory everything
> should be OK with such cable.
> The cable is vanilla-classic 13
> 26
> 31
> 
> 62
> BUT: nothing works.
> Link LEDs are not lighting.
> Pings are timeouted at M$ and "destination host is unreachable" at linux
> box.
> All works terrific with my company's hub and straight cables.
> I even started a sniffer at NT and saw that there were an ARP broadcast for
> Linux box with no response.
> Seems that cable is the problem, but I checked it 3 times.
> 
> Anyway, maybe someone succeeded in the past to connect 2 boxes without a
> hub, I would appreciate him to share the experience with me.
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Re: .netrc for Auto-login FTP session.

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Benji Selano wrote:
> 
> Hi...
> 
> Where can i find some info on Auto-login ftp sessions?
> I can't seem to find a man page on the .netrc file.
> 
> Thanks.
> Benji

If you mean auto-login from the client side, you can try ncftp / ncftpget/put

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Re: .netrc for Auto-login FTP session.

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Benji Selano wrote:
> 
> what i'm actually looking for is a way to give the Login and the Password
> Via script or .netrc file.
> (using normal ftp)
> 

So it seems I was in the right direction... :-)  :

ncftpget -u bengi -pfoobar $ftp_server . $image
will fetch the $image (full path) to the current dir' from $ftp_server.

In short, as ncftpget has lots of very useful nice options:
man ncftpget...


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Re: ARP

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Benji Selano wrote:
> 
> no /etc/ethers on RH 6.2.. :(
> any other idea?
> 

It doesn't have to exist by default. I have a RARP server here which takes it
definitions from /etc/ethers. This is a RH server. This file didn't exist by
default.
I would have checked the kernel documentation, the part about ARP, etc' for more
information.

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Re: Permanent ip_forwarding definition

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Yoni Cohen wrote:
> 
> Hi group,
> 
> I'm using RH 6 and i need to define the ip_forwarding of the OS to be
> enable/disable during the boot proccess.
> 
> What files i need to update ?
> 
> Thanks

I guess its the same as RH6.1, so then try:

(#)echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

this is usually done at boot time through /etc/rc.d/rc.local or similar rc file.

I must note that there are nicer ways to do this through some RH config files,
but this works A-O.K. .

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Re: Sony AIT Tape compatibility.

[Boaz Rymland]

Maxim Kryachko wrote:
> 
> Hi list.
> Does Subj. work with Linux and where I can find all the hardware
> compatibility info in order to not to bother you with "RTFM" questions? :-)
> Thank you.

I'm working with Sony AIT-1 Tape (SDX-300C, IIRC).

It works o.k., as one would expect but I can only advise you not to buy this. 
Why? 

1. It's expensive (mostly the tape).

2. Check out http://www.linuxtapecert.org/ .
This site is dedicated to testing and bench'ing and comparing backup tapes under
Linux. An old press release there (I think its gone by now) said that they we're
testing the Sony AIT-1 tape on mar' 99, yet I couldn't see any results on their
site many months after that date. After a short email session I learned from the
guys there that Sony had decided that it doesn't want/need to take part in the
Linux tape certification program. As simple as that.
With that fact in mind - I can advise you not to buy Sony tapes. that's what I
would have done.

3. I also have some experience with Ecrix VXA-1 internal tape. The drive itself
is cheap, but tapes are quite expensive. This tape is also considered very good,
with some HW innovtions. It's also proudly well(?) supported under Linux, and
you can find it in the above mentioned site.

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Re: Me

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Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Adi Stav wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:51:45AM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote:
> > > > Now. let's see if I got it right:
> > > > RedHat is the operating system, and the
> > > > KDE, GNOME... are the envyroments -
> > > > Which means: I'll have the Linux Redhat 6.2
> > > > and will be ableto function on several
> > > > envyroments.
> > > >
> > > > Hope I'm not a slowlearner...
> > >
> > > I prefer to say that Linux is the operating system, RedHat is the
> > > distribution,
> 
> With the current amount of differences between various linux distros,
> calling each of them "operting system" is more correct.
> 

I wouldn't join your terminology. 
IMO, 
* Linux is the Operating system brand,
* RedHat,Debian are distributions, meaning a typical, not identical to other,
type of Linux. They differ in numerous minor/less minor ways. Each dirto' is
like a special flavour of Linux.

I wouldn't call each distro a different OS. They are all able to run the same
binaries (true they are packaged differently, but this is just the *package*,
not the content), and they simply share much more than they differ, if you look
at the whole computers OS world, not only at the Linux world.


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Re: Me

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Adi Stav wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 01:46:53PM +0200, Boaz Rymland wrote:
> > Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> > >
> > > With the current amount of differences between various linux distros,
> > > calling each of them "operting system" is more correct.
> >
> > I wouldn't join your terminology.
> > IMO,
> > * Linux is the Operating system brand,
> > * RedHat,Debian are distributions, meaning a typical, not identical to other,
> > type of Linux. They differ in numerous minor/less minor ways. Each dirto' is
> > like a special flavour of Linux.
> >
> > I wouldn't call each distro a different OS. They are all able to run the same
> > binaries (true they are packaged differently, but this is just the *package*,
> > not the content), and they simply share much more than they differ, if you look
> > at the whole computers OS world, not only at the Linux world.
> 
> But Linux is not a brand. Most of the Linux-based distributions
> include the Linux kernel as it is, or with relatively negligible
> changes. Linus has neither the power nor the desire to influence
> "userland" applications. It is Red Hat, Debian etc who brand the
> complete systems. So I would not say Linux is a single operating
> system, but a family of operating systems, because there's no OS you
> can point at and say "this is the original Linux", unlike Unix or BSD.
> 

Gee, I got more than this reply that had sense in it. This thread is anyway more
theoretical (definitions, terminology, etc...), and less practical. I'll quite
here.

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Re: rsh problems

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Erez Doron wrote:
> 
> HI
> 
> I'm using the 'rsh'  command to execute command on a remote computer:
> when i issue:
> local> rsh remote echo hello
> 
> it waits for a lot of time and tells me:
> poll: protocol failure in circuit setup
> 
> but if i do only 'rsh remote' and then ' echo hello' it works !
> 
> any idea ?
> 
> thanks
> erez.

I had just the same problem, but I cant remember how it was finally solved...
;-)

Can you post the NIC cards models, kernel version (and special related drivers
used) special networking HW on the way between the two machines, etc' etc'
relevant information ?

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Re: Console problem

[Boaz Rymland]

Oded Arbel wrote:
> 
> Hi list.
> I have this wierd problem with my console (on Mandrake 7.2) - after typing
> away at the console for a while (a few minutes), my screen goes blank - like
> the screensaver that normally kicks in after a few minutes of inactivity ?
> but this happens while I'm working, and after it kicks in - I can't turn it
> off by moviing my mouse or typing stuff - instead I have to switch to the
> graphical console or the aurora console (which is also graphical), and back
> again.
> any idea why ?

Nope. But you can try "setterm -blank 0" . This disables console blanking. I use
it on my servers at work as a quick solution to digging that console blanking
issue. (I put it in one of the rc scripts, so it's automatically loads up at
boot time).

Boaz.

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Re: ipchains syslog messages

[Boaz Rymland]

IPchains HOWTO walks you through reading the syslog messages. I dont know how
relevant this to your messages, but it could supply you with the info you need.

Boaz.

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

> Hi
>
> I'm trying to understand a certain reoccouring denied packet. The trouble
> is I can't find any reference to the meaning of all the fields in the
> syslog message. Can anybody point me to such a reference?
>
> thanks
>
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Re: Refresh Rate

[Boaz Rymland]

Yoav Bornstein wrote:
> 
> Hi List !
> 
> My friends computer had been ***k up, and we decided to install Mandrake 7.2 .
> After a week of using Mandrake 7.2, he says it's very good, and he even
> didn't installed his windows yet.
> But, he has problems with his LG Flatron :
> he wants to change the configuration to 85Hz@1280x1024.
> Is it possable ? (he likes big resulutions :) )
> --
> Yoav Bornstein.
> Listen to Weird Al and George Carlin, watch South Park, use Linux and have
> fun !
> 

About the refresh rates, I would recommend this site:

http://zaph.com/Modeline/

(the domain seems dead as I write this. Tell me if it stays down/invalid, and
I'll post the other links).
There you'll find standard modelines for common VESA resolutions. I use this
myself. Just FYI, there are other sites with which you can optimize your refresh
rates even further, but this requires more playing and some knowledge.

About windows installation - I highly recommend you to make a boot diskette
before installing windows, AND, prepare the disk (fdisk/cfdisk/whatever)
yourself. I mean preparing and formatting(? - not sure) a vfat partition. This
is all because I once installed windows on a linux only machine (where there
existed a few free partitions) and Windows simply repartitioned the HD (!),
deleting my Linux machine (After lots of headache, I did manage to reconstruct
the partition table partially and copy the data).
I dont know about Win-ME or the like, but Windows98 (IIRC), when installed, if
it doesn't recognize fat/vfat partitions on the HD, will repartition your HD
without warning you, rendering your OS of choice useless.

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Re: changing machine's name

[Boaz Rymland]

Indeed 'hostname' . Also, I dont know which linuxconf version on what distro you
use but linuxconf is, unfortunately, pretty buggy. I use it (or more like
"netconf") only to update some RedHat config files the fastest way. Many times I
use netconf but exit without "activating" the changes, as files were updated
anyway, and continue with /etc/rc.d./init.d network stop   start.

Boaz.

mulix wrote:
> 
> hi ishai,
> 
> man hostname.
> 
> Ishai Parasol (IGLU)" wrote:
> 
> > How can I change my box's name without rebooting.
> 
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Re: bash prop

[Boaz Rymland]

Ben-Nes Michael wrote:
> 
> Hi All
> 
> I wonder if any one know what bash variable contain the host i got
> connected from.
> 
> if ther5e is no such variable in bash, does other shell go it or system
> function ?
> --

If he's aint using tcsh or ssh, a workaround (though not the most beautiful, I
admit) is checking $DISPLAY, which will be set to the remote client name (not
IP), with additional data. This is set up by telnet, if you use it.

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Re: Bash prompt

[Boaz Rymland]

Yotam Rubin wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> The environment variable $REMOTEHOST is not shell Dependant.
> This variable is added by the program 'login'. The shell should not even
> know that it's being ran remotely. A sane telnetd should fork login, so
> you can rely on the $REMOTEHOST variable to exist.
> 
> Regards, Yotam Rubin
> 

I've just tried this on RH Linux and Solaris both with bash (but different bash
version). Some logins I have on those machines are as root and some as a regular
user. Some of the logins yielded the expected output from "echo $REMOTEHOST" but
some didn't produce any output. Can't find the reason for that (and I dont have
time to delve into it now...).

Besides, AFAIK, enviroment variables are all shell dependant as they are created
by the shell. Some might be completely standard, like TERM, but they are all to
the mercy of the shell. (Ofcourse, I would love to be corrected or better
rephrased :-) .

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Re: proftpd

[Boaz Rymland]

i'm not fimiliar with leap-ftp, but i run a little test to see this code and
message with a bare-bones ftp client.

that 226 code message is, i guess, the standard ftp message code (and optional
string?) for signaling "last 'get' command completed successfully" . 
this thing could be easily checked in the RFC containing the standard (but as
always, a word from somebody who already checked this is much faster... . not
me, in this case).

the only thing i see now is still that the client is too verbose, maybe because
the string he sees isn't what it expects. 

boaz. 

Tamar Klein wrote:
> 
> first - my client is using leap-ftp
> second - I looked on wu-ftpd messages (that was my earlier server, and my
> client had no problems with it), and there is a little change in the
> messages:
> wu-ftpd writes:
> 226 Transfer complete
> 
> while proftpd writes:
> 226-Transfer complete
> 
> (with Minus sign)
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Boaz Rymland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Tamar Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 2:20 PM
> Subject: Re: proftpd
> 
> > now i see (there was a slight double-meaning in your original post :-)
> >
> > as far as i can picture the situation, perhaps the messages output is the
> client
> > side's fault/feature. in a normal ftp session such messages are sent in
> text
> > between your client and the server. this is part of the normal
> communication.
> > perhaps you should check the client's configuration - maybe you should
> decrease
> > it's "verbosity" level.
> > (what ftp clients are you using ?)
> >
> > hope it helps,
> > boaz.
> >
> >
> > Tamar Klein wrote:
> > >
> > > Its sends messages to the >>client<< when it tries to upload files and
> when
> > > it gets the list of a directory.
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Boaz Rymland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Tamar Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 2:09 PM
> > > Subject: Re: proftpd
> > >
> > > > Tamar Klein wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > my proftpd server sends messages about quotas and transfer to ftp
> > > clients.
> > > > > (226-transfer complete)
> > > > > I guess this message is not standard, and some ftp clients don't
> know
> > > how to
> > > > > handle it.
> > > > >
> > > > > is someone know how can I change / delete these messages?
> > > > >
> > > > > --Tamar.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > some more info is nessecary here. mainly, to where does it send those
> > > messages ?
> > > > xconsole/console ? email ?
> > > > seems like xconsole/console. if it's so, then you need to reconfigure
> the
> > > > syslogd.
> > > > what distro' are you using ?
> > > >
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[OT]: to the maintainer of the list

[Boaz Rymland]

Please contact me personally. 

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RE: Gnome games

[Boaz Rymland]

Hi,

If I get this right, what you describe is a problem in the X setup, before
your .xinitrc, .fvwmrc or the like comes to play.
You need to change the configuration of your X server. This change will be
noted in your (probably this is the path) /etc/X11/XF86Config file. 
You screen got blank, I guess, due to bad modelines. The remedy work needs
to be done hands on. You can try to: lower resolution, change the modelines.
You can get help from automated tools like XConfigurator or XF86Setup or the
like (run them as root), but DO NOT forget to backup your existing (useless
but important for it's other data) XF86Config file.

[completely OFF_TOPIC: just came back from a month off the list.. . How the
hell could I miss that wonderfull thread about Mr. Choo the evil and some
droplets of joy from MAV ? Murphy's law - just when you're not there the
action will go on... :-) ]

boaz.

> -Original Message-
> From: Alexander Sandler [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tue 01 May 2001 18:44
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Gnome games
> 
> Hi List.
> 
> I am trying to upgrade gnome on my LinuxBox. I''ve installed/upgraded all
> required gnome-* rpms and their dependencies.
> Then tried to startx. Unfortunatly it didn't work. I got blank screen. 
> The question is of course, how to make it work ?
> 
> Few words about the LinuxBox.
> I had RedHat 6.2 originaly. New rpm's I've installed are from RedHat 7.1.
> 
> I've tried to change .xinitrc. First removed it completely. Then wrote
> "exec
> gnome-wm" in there. In both cases, the result was as described below.
> 
> This is it.
> Any help will be pretiated.
> 
> Best regards.
> Alexandr Sandler.
> 
> Software Engineer.
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RE: Gnome games

[Boaz Rymland]

Hmm... o.k., that screen description makes things more clear.
gnome issue then ? sorry, haven't got a clue. 
i use window maker. fast, stable, configurable, and absolutely no
Mime-Shmime wizardry. CLI - that's my interface !  :-) . (Command Line
Interface)

boaz.

> -Original Message-
> From: Alexander Sandler [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tue 01 May 2001 19:11
> To:   Boaz Rymland
> Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: Gnome games
> 
> The problem is not in XF86Config, but in gnome. 
> When I said, I am having a blank screen, I meant to the "pure X - no WM"
> black-white dotted screen, you propably saw lot's of time.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Boaz Rymland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 6:05 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Gnome games
> > Importance: Low
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > If I get this right, what you describe is a problem in the X 
> > setup, before
> > your .xinitrc, .fvwmrc or the like comes to play.
> > You need to change the configuration of your X server. This 
> > change will be
> > noted in your (probably this is the path) /etc/X11/XF86Config file. 
> > You screen got blank, I guess, due to bad modelines. The 
> > remedy work needs
> > to be done hands on. You can try to: lower resolution, change 
> > the modelines.
> > You can get help from automated tools like XConfigurator or 
> > XF86Setup or the
> > like (run them as root), but DO NOT forget to backup your 
> > existing (useless
> > but important for it's other data) XF86Config file.
> > 
> > [completely OFF_TOPIC: just came back from a month off the 
> > list.. . How the
> > hell could I miss that wonderfull thread about Mr. Choo the 
> > evil and some
> > droplets of joy from MAV ? Murphy's law - just when you're 
> > not there the
> > action will go on... :-) ]
> > 
> > boaz.
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Alexander Sandler [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tue 01 May 2001 18:44
> > > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject:  Gnome games
> > > 
> > > Hi List.
> > > 
> > > I am trying to upgrade gnome on my LinuxBox. I''ve 
> > installed/upgraded all
> > > required gnome-* rpms and their dependencies.
> > > Then tried to startx. Unfortunatly it didn't work. I got 
> > blank screen. 
> > > The question is of course, how to make it work ?
> > > 
> > > Few words about the LinuxBox.
> > > I had RedHat 6.2 originaly. New rpm's I've installed are 
> > from RedHat 7.1.
> > > 
> > > I've tried to change .xinitrc. First removed it completely. 
> > Then wrote
> > > "exec
> > > gnome-wm" in there. In both cases, the result was as 
> > described below.
> > > 
> > > This is it.
> > > Any help will be pretiated.
> > > 
> > > Best regards.
> > > Alexandr Sandler.
> > > 
> > > Software Engineer.
> > > StoreAge Networking Technologies, Inc.
> > > Tel   : (972)-4-8329030 Ext. 235.
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RE: Bandwith sniffer

[Boaz Rymland]

You might wanna check iptraf too.

boaz.

> -Original Message-
> From: Alex Shnitman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wed 09 May 2001 13:33
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: Bandwith sniffer
> 
> Hi, Ronen!
> 
> On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 02:06:54PM +0200, you wrote the following:
> 
> > Hi, I'm interesting in a tool so i would be able to put on the linux
> > firewall internal ethernet segment, machine, which will be able to
> > show me how much bandwith is taken by each ip address, to where and
> > the protocol type, so i would be able to know who's killing my
> > bandwith.  know any? using any?  thanks.
> 
> A graphical tool that does exactly that is Etherape. Check it out --
> I'm very satisfied with it.
> 
> 
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RE: Bidi support for Linux

[Boaz Rymland]

hell, i dont know where this thread came from but I'll surely vote with
Nadav !
I suggest a petition to Sun equip' makers to switch the CAPS and CONTROL
keys back to their original locations !

also, check out http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/7944/


;-) boaz

> -Original Message-
> From: Nadav Har'El [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wed 09 May 2001 13:40
> To:   Ivrix Discussions
> Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: Bidi support for Linux
> 
> On Wed, May 09, 2001, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote about "Re: Bidi support for
> Linux":
> > "Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Some time ago I was also using the Caps-Lock (which I find a totally
> useless
> > > key ever since I stopped programming in Fortran ;), 
> 
> [this is really off-topic, but...]
> 
> Fortran is case-insensitive, but its users aren't - many of them are used
> to
> seeing all code in uppercase, and consider lowercase an abomination. I've
> seen several Fortran programmers use the Caps-Lock key to type whole
> sections
> of code in uppercase. I usually rebelled and entered stuff in lower-case -
> it
> was also an interesting way to see which part of the code I wrote, and
> which
> part was written by other people :)
> 
> Anyway, my point is that I don't know *anybody*, except Fortran
> programmers,
> who ever use the Caps-Lock key. What good is it? FOR SHOUTING IN EMAILS?
> It only gets in the way of my left pinkie, once in a while a while causing
> me to think I'm insane and don't remember my password. I vote for the
> abolition of the Caps-Lock key. All in favor, type
> 
>   xmodmap -e 'clear lock'
> 
> 
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RE: strange errors on RH7.0

[Boaz Rymland]

Well, it's seems like it is what it says it is... "too many open files in
system"... :-) .
You have a limit of the number of open file handles in your system , as well
as number of processes, etc' etc' limits to their kinds... .

There might be a way to change this in the shell ("ulimit" ?), but you can
sure edit the kernel sources and recompile it, as I once did just that (and,
its really not that difficult). Sorry, but I cannot recall the exact file to
edit (but it's a short file with a few #define's in it). 
I suspect that in a few minutes you'll have the exact file and "define"s to
edit, but in any case - try grep'ping recrusivly (grep -r ) the kernel
source tree for MAX_FILE or FILE_MAX (or is it *FOPEN*, *FD* ?).

Boaz.

> -Original Message-
> From: Ben-Nes Michael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sun 13 May 2001 15:04
> To:   linux ILUG
> Subject:  strange errors on RH7.0
> 
> Hi All
> 
> While doing some jobs on the server i got the folowing errors for a few
> min
> ( couldnt do anything ).
> After few minutes the shell was active again.
> 
> any idead what can couse such problems ?
> 
> [miki@www miki]$ ps auxw|grep summ
> bash: pipe error: Too many open files in system
> 
> [miki@www miki]$ rm .toprc
> rm: remove `.toprc'? y
> 
> [miki@www miki]$ top
> top: error while loading shared libraries: libproc.so.2.0.7: cannot open
> shared object file: Error 23
> 
> [miki@www miki]$ ls
> bash: pipe error: Too many open files in system
> 
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RE: strange errors on RH7.0

[Boaz Rymland]

Ah ! but he might still need to recompile to add /proc FS suport !... ;-)
(just being picky...)

> -Original Message-
> From: Sagi Bashari [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sun 13 May 2001 16:03
> To:   Boaz Rymland
> Cc:   'Ben-Nes Michael'; linux ILUG
> Subject:  RE: strange errors on RH7.0
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You don't have to recompile your kernel to increase the max openfiles
> number- just change the value in /proc/sys/fs/file-max
> (ie. echo 32768 > /proc/sys/fs/file-max)
> 
> Sagi
> 
> On Sun, 13 May 2001, Boaz Rymland wrote:
> 
> > Well, it's seems like it is what it says it is... "too many open files
> in
> > system"... :-) .
> > You have a limit of the number of open file handles in your system , as
> well
> > as number of processes, etc' etc' limits to their kinds... .
> >
> > There might be a way to change this in the shell ("ulimit" ?), but you
> can
> > sure edit the kernel sources and recompile it, as I once did just that
> (and,
> > its really not that difficult). Sorry, but I cannot recall the exact
> file to
> > edit (but it's a short file with a few #define's in it).
> > I suspect that in a few minutes you'll have the exact file and "define"s
> to
> > edit, but in any case - try grep'ping recrusivly (grep -r ) the kernel
> > source tree for MAX_FILE or FILE_MAX (or is it *FOPEN*, *FD* ?).
> >
> > Boaz.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ben-Nes Michael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Sun 13 May 2001 15:04
> > > To:   linux ILUG
> > > Subject:  strange errors on RH7.0
> > >
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > While doing some jobs on the server i got the folowing errors for a
> few
> > > min
> > > ( couldnt do anything ).
> > > After few minutes the shell was active again.
> > >
> > > any idead what can couse such problems ?
> > >
> > > [miki@www miki]$ ps auxw|grep summ
> > > bash: pipe error: Too many open files in system
> > >
> > > [miki@www miki]$ rm .toprc
> > > rm: remove `.toprc'? y
> > >
> > > [miki@www miki]$ top
> > > top: error while loading shared libraries: libproc.so.2.0.7: cannot
> open
> > > shared object file: Error 23
> > >
> > > [miki@www miki]$ ls
> > > bash: pipe error: Too many open files in system
> > >
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RE: Israeli spammers (Was: goldfish spamming)

[Boaz Rymland]

Hi!

There's some comfort hearing you're not the only one in this... :-)

I also got spammed from FixFax a few days ago. As a persistent user of
SpamCop (http://spamcop.net)  I reported it and got the following reply.
Since I'm not an expert on mail routings, settings, etc' , nor o I have the
resources to get into this now, I simply settled in calling the actual
spammer - FixFax. The man on the other line was polite but seems ready for
such phone calls.

guys - check this reply I got after sending my spamcop report:

==

>From an investigation of your report it appears that the mail was sent by
accessing 
the Internet using an anonymous dial-up access provided via Bezeq, The
Israel 
Telecommunications Corp. Ltd. This service, provided by Bezeq, allows the
user to 
choose between a selection of licensed ISPs, who are under contract to Bezeq
for this 
facility. Because of this you may find that the spammer is hitting you from
a number of 
different Israeli ISPs. Bezeq are the only source of the information as to
the exact 
source of who and where the access was made, i.e. identifying the telephone
line from 
which  the call was made. Bezeq are also the only people who, at this time
can take direct
action against the spammer.  

In order to possibly to get any effective action you should contact the
following, one of who may 
take action:
1. The owner of the domain (fixfax.co.il)that was spamming its services at
Phone +972 3 504-5885
or  FAX +972 3 617-7100. 
2. You could also contact the person who is listed as the contact for the
company that 
hosts the DNS for this domain. (This person is also listed as the only
contact for the domain 
fixfax.co.il.) This is Oved Blass([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Phone +972 3
652-0048, of nethost.co.il.
3. An additional action would be to write to canada.com who are the
providers of the email address 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] which is used as the sender and reply to address for
the spam

   `\|||/  
oO(@ @)Oo_
(_)|_|_|_|_|_|_| 
___||_Zohar Levitan|_|_|_|___| 
V.P. & Chief Technology Officer
Goldnet Communication Services - Israel
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: +972 3 543-3777  FAX: +972 3 548-8643
40 Hanamal Street, 63506 Tel Aviv, Israel

===


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RE: Israeli spammers (Was: goldfish spamming)

[Boaz Rymland]

I little about this service I use (SpamCop):

it is an automated service which I really dont know its usefulness, but I'm
surely using them with EVERY spam I get.
As just said, its an automatic process which when I send a complete email
message (with headers - you can do this from outlook too) it parses that
headers, query a little the net, including "talking" to ORBS
(http://www.orbs.org ) and prompts me with conclusions about the spam - what
mail servers the message passed along the way (stuff I never read
carefully... :-) 
It then prompts me the contact persons it thinks I should send a "spam
report" to - usually abuse@ or the like. then, with a simple click
it sends a templated Spam complaint to the persons I chose (check boxes).

The message I quoted in my last message is a reply got from the ISP
contacted by my spam report - Goldnet. It seems quite detailed and surely a
nice thing to get in reply (sometimes I get automated replies from ISPs
ready for such spam report mails...).

boaz.



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[OT] ISPs and kid scanning your computer

[Boaz Rymland]

Hi list,

I'm connected to the internet via Barak online, with a linux IP-masquerading
machine, with a decent IPChains setup in my kernel. I'm also using xconsole
so I see the deny & logged attempts to log into my machine.

The thing is I get many many scans, and I can see only the non-stealth ones.
I'm being scanned many times per connection to the net, which is nowadays
almost daily. The unauthorized connection attempts are to various ports,
including 137, 12345, etc' etc' other beautiful assortments... . 

I was wandering if people subscribed to other ISPs also get many scans as I,
or this is something Barak excels at (having too many
kids-with-much-spare-time-on-their-hands...) . 

BTW, obviously, Barak are extremely useful when I call them complaining
about this situation that each time I connect through them I get scanned
(god knows how many scans such as those were made when other people in my
house connected via Windows).

Boaz.


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RE: [OT] ISPs and kid scanning your computer

[Boaz Rymland]

Hey all,

Yep, I get that many assortment of connection attempts to the various ports
described here. Indeed, portmapper is really the favorite on my machine
lately :-) .

What a typo I had below - I meant to say that connecting Barak in extremely
UNuseful !... :-) 
I talked to them on the phone, connected them by mail (abuse@...), and
suggested my immediate sending of the details of the IPs I get scanned from
(and indeed, all the log information I have) live, while this is still
happening - zero response.

Anyway, if there's anything to do I thought it would have been in the
direction of live tracking of the sources of those scans. Many times the IP
I get the report the scans are coming from seems valid, but I know it might
be completely faked. But again, even suggesting Barak my online support
didn't created anything, so my conclusion is...

We just need to be happy that we are connecting through Linux, behind our
own firewall, and that we are knowledgeable enough to manage all this... :-)

boaz.


-Original Message-

This happening all over, and not specific to Barak. Crackers, worms, and
other "mar'in-bishin", as well as legitimate entities such as search
engines,
global load balancers, and research companies are continuously probing
random addresses throughout IP space, and you're going to see these scans
in every provider, unless your provider has a firewall in front of you.

I get connection attempts (as well as more "stealthy" packets) to various
ports all the time: telnet, ftp, lpd, portmapper (several Linux
distributions
had holes in the last two, so crackers are trying to use it), Windows SMB
ports, trojan backdoor ports, and other crap I don't recognize. It does no
harm, but it proves to me everyday why investing a few hours in learning
ipchains and why disabling most of the daemons on my home machine was a
smart move.



> BTW, obviously, Barak are extremely useful when I call them complaining
> about this situation that each time I connect through them I get scanned
> (god knows how many scans such as those were made when other people in my
> house connected via Windows).

Complaining to Barak won't do much good - it is not their fault, and there's
not much they can do about it except protect their network with a firewall
(and I know that I, for example, wouldn't want my dialup provider to enforce
its firewalling rules on me - I get enough of this crap at work).

What may help, in the long run, is looking at the IP addresses you can
connection attempts from, collecting this data from a large number of
volunteers (to screen out fake addresses - the issue of stealth scanning
is very complicated and interesting and I don't want to get into it right
now) and try to automatically find machines which may be "owned" (previously
broken into) and warn their owner. Very rarely do you see a connection
attempt
from the direct source of the attack.

One time, when I logged in through Netvision, I was sent ping packets, once
every second, for several hours, from one IP address. This did me no harm
(my firewall blocked them), so I just ignored it, but it wasted my poor
modem's bandwidth, and filled my logfile with annoying messages... I don't
know why would anyone want to keep a ping process running on a specific
address in Netvision's dialup IP range, but I guess some idiot did...


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RE: scrolling wheel

[Boaz Rymland]

Intellimouse works fine for me under XFree86 v4.0.2. Indeed, Sagi's words
below are what you need, but note that I'm working with Netscape with
scrolling without any knowledge about IMWheel, so you can do this only by
editing your XF86Config file and, like I did, editing also your .Xdefaults
file.

if you need further info, I can send you the relevant parts of my files (but
only tomorrow - I don't have that machine here).

boaz.

-Original Message-
From: sagi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: scrolling wheel


Hi Ishai

Basiclly, all you need to do is to add something like:
 'ZAxisMapping4 5' or 'Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"' if you're using
X4 to your XF86Config. after that, GNOME/KDE applications should work with
the wheel. for other applications like netscape, you'll have to run
imwheel.

Sagi

On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> Hi list!
> 
> I am trying to configure a scrolling wheel, on Rh7.1, Kde2.1.
> I have followed all instructions from
> http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/
> regarding the X server, KDE, netscape, Xterm and Imwheel.
> However, I can't get the scrolling mouse to work, I am using microsoft
> intelli ps/2.
> 
> any help will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks, ishay
> 
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RE: scrolling wheel

[Boaz Rymland]

I'll send my files tomorrow. 
Another thingi to watch for is that your "num lock" key is off. On my home
machine turning it on disables the scrolling in netscape (although the
xterm, etc' still scrolls o.k.). small but nasty, I know... :-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 6:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: scrolling wheel


Hi Again!

I've added all the changes to XF86Config and .Xdefaults, but still I can't
get the scrolling to work.
I am attaching those files, can anyone please tell me what am I doing wrong?
Also boaz, I'll be happy if you send your files.

Ishay

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Boaz Rymland
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:17 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: scrolling wheel
>
>
> Intellimouse works fine for me under XFree86 v4.0.2. Indeed,
> Sagi's words
> below are what you need, but note that I'm working with Netscape with
> scrolling without any knowledge about IMWheel, so you can do
> this only by
> editing your XF86Config file and, like I did, editing also
> your .Xdefaults
> file.
>
> if you need further info, I can send you the relevant parts
> of my files (but
> only tomorrow - I don't have that machine here).
>
> boaz.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: sagi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: scrolling wheel
>
>
> Hi Ishai
>
> Basiclly, all you need to do is to add something like:
>  'ZAxisMapping4 5' or 'Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"' if
> you're using
> X4 to your XF86Config. after that, GNOME/KDE applications
> should work with
> the wheel. for other applications like netscape, you'll have to run
> imwheel.
>
> Sagi
>
> On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi list!
> >
> > I am trying to configure a scrolling wheel, on Rh7.1, Kde2.1.
> > I have followed all instructions from
> > http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/
> > regarding the X server, KDE, netscape, Xterm and Imwheel.
> > However, I can't get the scrolling mouse to work, I am
> using microsoft
> > intelli ps/2.
> >
> > any help will be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks, ishay
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RE: scrolling wheel

[Boaz Rymland]

hi,

here are my relevant files - XF86Config and .Xdefaults . Note that only the
relevant sections are shown here.
Hope this helps... and again - dont forget to check that the num lock is off
(it can be turned on and off live - no need to restart the X process)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XF86Config <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Section "InputDevice"

# Identifier and driver

Identifier  "Mouse1"
Driver  "mouse"
#Option "Protocol""IntelliMouse"
Option "Protocol""IMPS/2"
Option "Device"  "/dev/mouse"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"

EndSection

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  ~/.Xdefaults <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
!## NETSCAPE
Netscape*drawingArea.translations:  #replace\
:   ArmLink()   \n\
:   ArmLink()   \n\
~Shift:   ActivateLink()  \n\
~Shift:   ActivateLink(new-window)  \
DisarmLink()\n\
Shift:ActivateLink(save-only)  \
DisarmLink()\n\
Shift:ActivateLink(save-only)  \
DisarmLink()\n\
: DisarmLinkIfMoved()  \n\
: DisarmLinkIfMoved()  \n\
: DisarmLinkIfMoved()  \n\
: DescribeLink()  \n\
:   xfeDoPopup()\n\
: ActivatePopup() \n\
Ctrl: PageUp()\n\
Ctrl: PageDown()\n\
Shift: LineUp()\n\
Shift: LineDown()\n\
None: LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\
None:
LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()\n\
Alt: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n\
Alt: xfeDoCommand(back)\n

Netscape*globalNonTextTranslations: #override\n\
Shift: LineUp()\n\
Shift: LineDown()\n\
None:LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\
None:LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()\
n\
Alt: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n\
Alt: xfeDoCommand(back)\n

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 6:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: scrolling wheel


Hi Again!

I've added all the changes to XF86Config and .Xdefaults, but still I can't
get the scrolling to work.
I am attaching those files, can anyone please tell me what am I doing wrong?
Also boaz, I'll be happy if you send your files.

Ishay

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Boaz Rymland
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:17 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: scrolling wheel
>
>
> Intellimouse works fine for me under XFree86 v4.0.2. Indeed,
> Sagi's words
> below are what you need, but note that I'm working with Netscape with
> scrolling without any knowledge about IMWheel, so you can do
> this only by
> editing your XF86Config file and, like I did, editing also
> your .Xdefaults
> file.
>
> if you need further info, I can send you the relevant parts
> of my files (but
> only tomorrow - I don't have that machine here).
>
> boaz.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: sagi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: scrolling wheel
>
>
> Hi Ishai
>
> Basiclly, all you need to do is to add something like:
>  'ZAxisMapping4 5' or 'Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"' if
> you're using
> X4 to your XF86Config. after that, GNOME/KDE applications
> should work with
> the wheel. for other applications like netscape, you'll have to run
> imwheel.
>
> Sagi
>
> On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi list!
> >
> > I am trying to configure a scrolling wheel, on Rh7.1, Kde2.1.
> > I have followed all instructions from
> > http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/
> > regarding the X server, KDE, netscape, Xterm and Imwheel.
> > However, I can't get the scrolling mouse to work, I am
> using microsoft
> > intelli ps/2.
> >
> > any help will be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks, ishay
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RE: a bit offtopic

[Boaz Rymland]

The purpose is for security, as at M$ they like the "Security by Obscurity"
approach... ;-)

-Original Message-
From: Alon Altman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 12:54 PM
To: Hetz Ben Hamo
Cc: Linux-IL
Subject: Re: a bit offtopic


On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

> >  c. Maybe it's harder to reverse-engineer the protocol than I
think...
> >
>
> Yes, this one is really hard.
>

  Why is this designed-to-be-obscure (see haloween documents) M$ protocol is
so hard to reverse engineer? What's so hard in parsing appointment-
scheduling e-mails? Is it binary or plaintext? How, in general, does this
work?

  Alon

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[OT] Old perl distro's

[Boaz Rymland]

Hi List,

i've been searching for older perl modules for some time now - with not much
of a success... .
i'll be specific - i'm looking the Fcntl module (all files of that module)
compiled(?) for 
perl v5.004_04 .

I've searched the CPAN and tried google and other resources... .

i'd be happy for any tip :-)

Boaz.

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Re: font problems with xfree-4

[Boaz Rymland]

The following text was posted on Debian-IL just today (Copylefts to Ira,
IIRC). Could it be relevant ?

> apt-get install kde-i18n-he  xfonts-100dpi-transcoded
> xfonts-75dpi-transcoded xfonts-base-transcoded xpdf-hebrew hspell



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From: "Eli Segal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tzafrir Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Linux-IL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: font problems with xfree-4


> I can't find the name of the package you're talking about on iglu
> can you please elaborate ?
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tzafrir Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Eli Segal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: font problems with xfree-4
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> > On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Eli Segal wrote:
> >
> > > Hey all,
> > > I can't seem to be able to use my heb8x13 and heb6x13 fonts ...
> > > they are well defined and installed (at list I think)
> > >
> > > I see them on /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
> > > and I see the definition on fonts.dir
> > >
> > > but xlsfonts wont find'em
> > >
> > > I'm using Debian woody with X 4.0.1
> > >
> > > Ideas Anyone ??
> >
> > You need a package called "something-transcoded". Check the IGLU faq>
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Re: Collection of sample high-quality iptables configurations?

[Boaz Rymland]

Hi,

Might I join the recommendation of the IPtables scripts at
http://www.linuxguruz.org/iptables/  . If you're looking for "strong" 
configurations, then by judging from what I've found, there are some 
pretty complicated configuration there (sorry, dont have the exact 
link). Still, though, someone will have to take the time finishing and 
adjusting a script to your neeeds.

The IPtables tutorial at 
http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/tutorials/blueflux/iptables-tutorial.html 
has besides the tutorial itself some example scripts, some which might 
be easier to comprehend and update (considering time constraints).

I also have some script from the technion, if you're interested (cant 
recall the source, probably the technion site itself).


Boaz.



Omer Zak wrote:

Hello Doron,
Thanks for the link.  It is a first step in the right direction.  But it
is still good only for someone who is willing to invest some time and
study the subject.
It is not yet an "out of the box" solution for someone with simple and
standardized needs and wants just to get the job done without being
bothered.
Time permitting, I'll study it and make a recommendation for Israeli ADSL
users.
--- Omer
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Doron Ofek wrote:

 

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Once upon a time I configured a 2.2.x Linux firewall with ipchains, and
used a script with which I was happy, as it opened only certain ports, had
anti-spoofing protection, etc.
More recently I configured a 2.4.x Linux firewall with iptables.However
I am not happy with the iptables configuration used there.

Does anyone know about a collection of recommended iptables scripts for
the following environments:
1. Single Linux PC at home (no need to export services like WWW to the
Internet).
2. Home or small office network (NAT, any PC can access the Internet,
nothing is exported to the world).
 

Hi Omer

http://www.linuxguruz.org/iptables/

Doron
   



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TCP-Wrapper problem

[Boaz Rymland]

Hi there,

I'm having problem getting the tcpd work as I used to see it work.

I have pure-ftpd which I want to control it's access to. in hosts.allow, 
I enter
pure-ftpd-wrapper : ALL
just to check the situation (all allowed).

Yet, the connection is always blocked by the hosts.deny directive: "ALL 
: ALL" (single line which together with hosts.allow implement "deny all 
except otherwise noted...").
I get the error message via syslog acknoledging TCPD has denied the 
service "pure-ftpd-wrapper" for 1.2.3.4
Yes, inet.d ftp line calls tcpd with "pure-ftpd-wrapper" as the required 
service. This name is appearing in all hosts.* files.
When I put ALL:ALL in hosts.allow - the connection is permitted. Its as 
if tcpd somehow doesn't get the string "pure-ftpd-wrapper" right in it's 
config files.

I've tried changing the string to somthing shorter, and updating 
inetd.conf, hosts.*, and the executable itself (both a symlink and a 
simple cp), yet nothing seemed to work. Somehow, TCPD doesn't seem to 
get the hosts.allow right. Well, or me :-)

BTW, I've also tried tcpdchk and got in return:
tcpdchk: relocation error: tcpdchk: undefined symbol: skip_ipv6_addr
I then checked tcpd executable itself with ldd. all seems o.k.
The system is Debian sid (updated).

Any idea?
thanks,
Boaz R


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[README First]Re: TCP-Wrapper problem

[Boaz Rymland]

I realized the original mail was a bit too detailed.

A shorter version:
I used to work in the past with tcp-wrapper including the "advanced"
configuration of firing booby-traps, etc'.
I'm really puzzled at my Debian 3 TCPD behaviour. It seems not to respond
"correctly" to hosts.allow.
The work is around setting pure-ftpd to go through the TCPD and do some
"extra work" as it starts its session. Please see the previous mail for more
elaborated details... .

Has anyone experienced problems with TCPD v7.6-ipv6.1-3 ?
Thanks,
B.

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From: "Boaz Rymland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 8:57 PM
Subject: TCP-Wrapper problem


> Hi there,
>
> I'm having problem getting the tcpd work as I used to see it work.
>
> I have pure-ftpd which I want to control it's access to. in hosts.allow,
> I enter
> pure-ftpd-wrapper : ALL
> just to check the situation (all allowed).
>
> Yet, the connection is always blocked by the hosts.deny directive: "ALL
> : ALL" (single line which together with hosts.allow implement "deny all
> except otherwise noted...").
> I get the error message via syslog acknoledging TCPD has denied the
> service "pure-ftpd-wrapper" for 1.2.3.4
> Yes, inet.d ftp line calls tcpd with "pure-ftpd-wrapper" as the required
> service. This name is appearing in all hosts.* files.
> When I put ALL:ALL in hosts.allow - the connection is permitted. Its as
> if tcpd somehow doesn't get the string "pure-ftpd-wrapper" right in it's
> config files.
>
> I've tried changing the string to somthing shorter, and updating
> inetd.conf, hosts.*, and the executable itself (both a symlink and a
> simple cp), yet nothing seemed to work. Somehow, TCPD doesn't seem to
> get the hosts.allow right. Well, or me :-)
>
> BTW, I've also tried tcpdchk and got in return:
> tcpdchk: relocation error: tcpdchk: undefined symbol: skip_ipv6_addr
> I then checked tcpd executable itself with ldd. all seems o.k.
>
> The system is Debian sid (updated).
>
> Any idea?
> thanks,
> Boaz R
>
>
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