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Re: OT: Here we go again ...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:17:58 -0700 - "Philip J. Koenig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: OT: Here we go again ... >> >> There are many millions of such good Muslims. > > >Such "examples" are about as useful as characterizing the guys who go >around assassinating family-planning doctors as "good christians", >despite the fact that their Christian god said "thou shalt not kill". > Glad this analogy came up. When abortion docs first got shot, and each time thereafter, the catholic church, from local priests to the pope in the vatican immediately, publicly and loudly declared that this is not the christain way and is wrong. Where are the mullahs, I'll tell ya, they are so scared of their own religion they cower in fear of the radical element and therefore are no better or they re telling their followers to "save their bullets for the chests of the enemy." The few that do stand up are swallowed by their own religion. They all deserve to be branded terrorists and treated as such until they show us different. When they realize the survival of their religion depends on it they may, just may, be able to see the light. That is the only enevitable outcome. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: email attack
Tools>Create Filter Rules>whatever there is a radio button for "do not recieve", that might work for you. On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 12:26:48 -0400 - Chris Kassopulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: email attack >Greetings, > >For the last two days I've gotten 100's of emails containing exe files. >Bogus microsoft updates and patches. Each piece is around 150k which >makes for a long download on dialup. Are there any filters that can >delete emails at the server that have an exe attached. > >I can put up with a little spam, but this is out of control. > >TIA > >Chris >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Frequent job scheduling like cron
how about nameing the file with time() On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 13:29:22 -0700 - "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Frequent job scheduling like cron >On 09/14/03 13:13, Michael Hipp wrote: >> I have a job I need to run automatically at about every 5 minutes. Cron >> could certainly do that. But if the job should run long, I don't want it >> to be started again while a previous instance is still running. And if >> the job should run 4.5 minutes, I don't necessarily want it to run again >> in 30 seconds, tho that wouldn't be fatal. >> >> I could just use a script with a delay at the end before it loops back >> to the top, but that's crude and not particularly reliable. >> >> Any clever, robust way to do this? > >with cron & an a more intelligent script :) > >seriously, you can have your script create some kind of lock file, and then >whenever it runs, check for the existence of the lock file before >proceeding. if it doesn't find one, then it should create a new lock file, >do its thing, and when completed, delete its lock file. > >if you don't want it to do anything if its been more than a specific since >the last one finished, you'll need to add some time/date stamp analysis >functionality to the script so that it can determine how long its been >since the last job ran. perhaps creating both a lock file, which is >transient, and another file that just gets the output from 'date' cat'ed >into it when the last job finishes. > >-- >~ >L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com > > 1:25pm up 1 day, 19:53, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.11, 0.12 > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Burning bootable CDs with XCDRoast
What you are trying to do is combine the config of creating your own ISO to an already made one. The ISO is what it is, that is why you just copy and burn one. The master is for creating your own ISO. You need ot rip an ISO and remaster it to change it. On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:47:31 -0400 - "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Burning bootable CDs with XCDRoast >I'm attempting to burn a bootable CD with XCDRoast (.98alpha10) and it's >not working. I have an iso that I need to make into a bootable CD. > >I follow the docs at the xcdroast.org site and set up the iso under the >Write tracks section - it's selected, the layout is accepted and the iso >shows up as being selected. > >I then go to the Master tracks section and set it up for El Torito boot by >pointing it to a 1.44 floppy image and telling it to make it bootable. > >However, when I boot of the CD it says 2.88MB image and then "failed to >boot". I know I'm overlooking something obvious here. Any help is >appreciated. > >Thanks. > >-- >Brett I. Holcomb >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >AKA Grunt <>< >Registered Linux User #188143 >Remove R777 to email >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opengroupware
I've considered looking at it but so far phpProjekt is working great for me. On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 23:59:38 -0400 - "Wil McGilvery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Opengroupware >Has anyone tried to use Opengroupware? > >Any comments? > >Regards, > >Wil McGilvery >Manager >Lynch Digital Media Inc > > > >416-744-7949 >416-716-3964 (cell) >1-866-314-4678 >416-744-0406 FAX >www.LynchDigital.com > > > > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Sound recording, playback - card, application?
.cda Compact Disk Audio On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 06:16:01 -0500 - "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Sound recording, playback - card, application? >On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 08:12:50 +0200 >Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 18:03:12 -0700 >> "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> > well, originally yes, but usually all MP3s start off as WAVs and are >> > then converted to MP3s. >> >> And, what is the actual format of music on a CD? > >.wav > >Ciao, > >David A. Bandel >-- >Focus on the dream, not the competition. > Nemesis Racing Team motto >GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Who is Be ?
http://beosonline.de http://bebits.com http://beosradio.com BeOS has found a nitche in the radio broadcast industry. On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 16:39:25 -0300 - "Federico Voges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Who is Be ? >On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 10:18:53 -0400, joel wrote: > >> >>This in today's online Wall Street Journal. >>Who was Be, Inc. ? >>What did MS actually do? >>This settlement sounds pathetic, and another victory for MS. >>Joel >> > >http://www.beincorporated.com/ > >Was the maker of BeOS a a high performance multimedia oriented OS. > >It was available for Mac and PC platforms and has some users (specially >on the Mac side). > >AFAIK, Palm Inc bought the company to use the technology of BeOS for >PalmOS 5. > >As a side note, theres an open source project to build and OS version >of BeOS (can't remember the web site). > >Bye!!! >Federico Voges >Socio gerente > >Intrasoft Tel/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 >Malabia 2137 14 A e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >(C1425EZC) Buenos Aires Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar >Argentina > > > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: another nail ?
> >Collins Richey wrote: > >| To paraphase the Great Bard himself, >| >| Out, out, brief candle! >| Gartner's but a walking shadow, >| a poor excuse of an analyst >| That marches to Microsoft's drum and lies through FUD its hour upon the >| stage And then is heard no more. >| It is a tale >| Told by an idiot, >| full of sound and fury, >| Signifying nothing. >| >| My humblest apologies to William Shakespeare. >| > >No need, you're quite the cunning linguist. >- -- I dont know if I'd want to spar with you. You're pretty quick at getting your licks in. ;) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Front Page
OK. I thought that the extension would take care of that. When I was running Raq's I just enabled FP, set their password and told them YOYO. On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 20:18:46-0500-"David A. Bandel"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Front Page >On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 11:40:48 -0500 >ronnie gauthier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I might be confused here but why not jsut enable FP extensions on the >> apache server? > >Yep, you're confused. I have a customer with the same problem. Under >Windoze, the filenames: Customer.htm, customer.html and CusTomer.htm are >the same file, which of course is the stupidest thing anyone's ever >heard. So inside the various .htm(l) files are lower case names (or >maybe all upper case) but at any rate don't match the case of the actual >filenames. > >Enabling FP extensions doesn't magically make UNIX stupid. FP >extensions are for idiots that can't write forms to PUT information, >etc. > >The correct answer is to take it home and do it over correctly. > >Ciao, > >David A. Bandel >-- >Focus on the dream, not the competition. > Nemesis Racing Team motto >GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Front Page
I might be confused here but why not jsut enable FP extensions on the apache server? On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 10:57:30 -0400 - "Wil McGilvery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Front Page > > >I have a web site from a customer that has asked me to convert his Front >Page site to be workable on apache. > >To do this and have the web site still work with front page all the >spaces in file names/links need to be removed and uppercase/lowercase >issues resolved. > >Is there any easy way to do this? > > > >Thanks, > > >Wil McGilvery >Manager >Lynch Digital Media Inc > > > >416-744-7949 >416-716-3964 (cell) >1-866-314-4678 >416-744-0406 FAX >www.LynchDigital.com > > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MS finally gets a little smarter
If you have a good pair of waffle stompers you can jump up and one leg the pile and get the people on both sides of you. On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:32:56 -0700 - Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: MS finally gets a little smarter >On Fri, Sep 05, 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: >>On Friday 05 September 2003 12:26 pm, Collins Richey wrote: >> >>> >>> Yeah, but to paraphrase DEP, when all is said and done all you have >>> is an updated windows . >> >>Sort of like a fresh cowpie instead of one that has dried out in the >>sun. > >Having had a bit of experience with cowpies, I would rather clean up the >dried out ones than fresh, and fresh cowpies are far easier to deal with >than Windows. BTW: It's rather amazing the effect of a high-velocity >250/3000 round into a fresh cow pie at 50 paces. > >Bill >-- >INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC >UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way >FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 >URL: http://www.celestial.com/ > >``Never chastise a Windows user...just smile at them kindly as you would a >disadvantaged child.'' WBM >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply
6 out of 40 if they must be picked in order drawn(if number drawn is removed) 40*39*38*36*35*34 else if not removed 40*40*40*40*40*40 any 6 out of 40(removed) 40*39*38*36*35*34 - 6*5*4*3*2*1 6 out of 40(removed) with 25 powerballs 40*39*38*36*35*34 - *25 6*5*4*3*2*1 so what you have in one form or another n! *Pb n! (n-k)! On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:54:41 -0400 - Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply >Quoth Klaus-Peter Schrage: >> Tom Wilson wrote: >> > >> >Here in America, many states have what they call a Lotto. What happens >> >is you go to a local convenience store and purchase a Lotto ticket for a >> >US $1 a ticket. They usually have 6 numbers on them from 1 to 40 or >> >so. Then once a week they draw numbers out of a contraption that has a >> >bunch of numbered ping pong balls in it and you hope that the six you >> >picked (or had randomly generated) on your ticket are the same six that >> >pop up out of the ball machine. Is so you win the jackpot of generally >> >some tens to hundreds of millions of dollars. >> > >> >Most people don't win. Thus you have to pretty lucky if you do. >> > >> The chances of winning aren't that bad: 1:3838380 > >Mm, my statistics is a little rusty, but wouldn't the chances be rather >worse? Order matters, so we want permutations, not combinations. So, > >40_P_6 = 40!/(40 - 6)! = 40!/34! = 2,763,633,000 >40_C_6 = 40!/(6! * (40 - 6)!) = 40!/(6! * 34!) = 3,838,380 > >Kurt >-- >Experience is the worst teacher. It always gives the test first and >the instruction afterward. >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More SCO Humor
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:59:23 -0400 - Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: More SCO Humor >Quoth Bill Campbell: >> On Sun, Aug 31, 2003, Kurt Wall wrote: >> >Quoth burns: >> >> >> Re: the 2 guys working on the RF MAST - UNLESS I'm mistaken, that was >> >> the mast on Tower 2 of what used to be the World Trade Center... Sad and >> >> yet fascinating. >> > >> >That's what I thought, too. Then I thought that someone had to be *above* >> >those guys to take the picture. Then I got vertigo. Again. You can see their left foot. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Gimp: Opening files with long path names
That because your users home folder is My Documents Try this: make another user with the home dir you wish to store graphics in Use the KDE menu editor go to the entry for gimp tell it to run gimp as the new user you will go through the setup again and it will rebuild the .gimp files for the new user On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:52:47 -0400 - joel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Gimp: Opening files with long path names >With my current version of gimp (1.3), when you try to open a file, the >default directory is always ~/My Documents >This means that if you are working with files in a directory with a long >path name, like: >~/Network/HAMMER10/public/disks/hdc5/Pictures/MaineVac >you have to work your way through the whole directory structure to open >one file. Opening a second file in the same directory makes you walk >through the whole file structure again. That is, Gimp doesn't seem to >remember the last directory you were working in. >I cannot find any configuration file for gimp which would change this >behavior. >cd ~/.gimp-1.3 >find . | grep Documents >shows nothing of interest. >Doing the same thing in /etc/gimp/1.3 shows nothing. >The command for starting gimp (gimp-1.3) is not a script, but the binary >itself, so nothing to tweak there. >However, >strings gimp-1.3 | grep Documents shows this: >~/My Documents/ >So, it looks like they have compiled this directory into the binary. >If you go to the directory with the file browser and click on it, this >saves walking repeatedly through the file structure, but, you have to >choose each time if you want to open with gimp-1.3 or gimp-remote-1.3, >not very convenient. >I could edit the binary to point to a symbolic link, but that seems >excessive. >Any insights appreciated. >Joel >P.S. Please don't suggest getting the source and recompiling. I am >really into this Debian thing. apt-get install is habit forming. > > > > > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: how to increase /root space
Swapana, Each time you upgrade with up2date and the kernal is updated you add files to boot. Clean up the old kernals and you will once again have the space you need. Remember to make lilo or grub relect the changes. On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 07:48:30 -0700 - "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: how to increase /root space >On 08/29/03 23:26, Swapana Ghosh wrote: >> Hi >> >> if i want to increase the partition space under the >> /bootwhat procedure i need to follow? Recently >> our server /boot partion is 99% full, > >I'm really wondering how you manage to fill up /boot, when its contents are >static. I don't see why you need to increase the size of /boot in the >first place. > >> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# df >> Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available >> Use% Mounted on >> /dev/sda7 505605215026264475 >> 45% / >> /dev/sda32 21846 283 >> 99% /boot >> none644860 0644860 >> 0% /dev/shm >> >> The server is redhat 7.3 kernel 2.4.18-27.7.x > >don't believe in applying Redhat's updates i see? THat kernel is old. > >-- >~ >L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com > > 7:45am up 14 days, 20:12, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.07, 0.02 > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Apache setup help
Use the sample file that came with your apache install and readD the comments in it. Sorta like a quick start. Change what you understand, dont touch what you dont and you will most likely get going OK. On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:49:44 -0700 - Condon Thomas A KPWA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: RE: Apache setup help >James McDonald wrote: >> sheesh ummm not real sure but here is my httpd.conf > >Thanks. This is a bit more info than I needed. Apache comes with a sample >.conf file that looks a lot like this one. It is complicated enough, >though, that I'd be better off reading the book first so I'll understand the >options I'm selecting. Quick perusal doesn't show anything obvious to >prevent html interpretation, though. > > >In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, > >Tom :-}) > >Thomas A. Condon >Barbershop Bass Singer >Registered Linux User #154358 >Interfere not in the business of Dragons, >For you are crunchy when flamed and taste good. >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Network Card Driving Miss Daisy
That 8 port hub, is it a straight 10Mbps? That'll do it to ya every time. On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:54:09 -0700 - "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Network Card Driving Miss Daisy >On 08/24/03 16:48, James McDonald wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> I have a small home network with the following setup. >> >> 8port Switch >> ---<10/100>--- >> >> I have absolutely hopeless data transfer both ways using samba and ftp. I >> can only get approx ~2.6MB/s max on a good day. >> >> running ethtool on the RH9 box shows that it is running at 100MB/s Full >> Duplex autoneg and the same on the Windows XP box. Setting both to 100MB/s >> FD doesn't help. >> >> Any suggestions why it's so damn slow or how to trouble-shoot the issue? > >Any packet loss? Any errors in ifconfig output? Anything showing up in >dmesg or messages? What does 'mii-tool eth0' show? > > >-- >~ >L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com > > 4:50pm up 9 days, 5:17, 1 user, load average: 0.34, 0.25, 0.27 > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux server packet loss - stopped occassionally
For my use I love the realteks, not a problem with them. For business use when doing jobs I tend to use 3com 509's, same with modems, give me a good old 3com anytime. On 24 Aug 2003 15:16:51 -0400 - burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Linux server packet loss - stopped occassionally >On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 14:56, Shawn Tayler wrote: >> On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 10:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Swapana Ghosh >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> professed: >> >> > ___ >> > >> > eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link >> > product info: vendor 00:00:00, model 0 rev 0 >> > basic mode: 10 Mbit, half duplex >> > basic status: no link >> > capabilities: >> > advertising: >> > >> >> The no link is interesting. Could it be a flakey NIC, cable, or Router >> port? > > >I had this happen a couple of years ago with a Realtek 8139C NIC. I >swapped out the card and it was fine. Other than that, I have had much >better service from these cards than others apparently have. >-- >burns > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: northeast power outage
I'm glad I live where I do. All power is supplied by dams and except for storms or natural disasters we dont lose power. All our overage goes to NSP which is the ND,MN grid. I talksed to my sister who is employed by a firm in Milwaukee that monitors transmission/usage. She says that DE went down first. She has no idea why, just that Detroit was the first to go black. On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 11:18:22 -0500 - "Jack Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: RE: northeast power outage >Depending on where you are, the generation capacity may be adequate (excluding >CA), transmission capacity is the limiting factor in many regions. And with >dereg allowing or encouraging people to buy power anywhere and ship it across >the country, some marginal lines are further taxed. > >> -Original Message- >> From: Joel Hammer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 9:42 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: northeast power outage >> >> >> Well, what does the average person want to know about? The >> power grid or >> lifestyles of the rich and famous or American idol? We get >> what we deserve. >> Engineers are SO boring. >> >> And, the environmentalists will fight attempts to increase power >> generation, except by building wind farms (aka >> environmentally destructive >> tax ripoffs), which, as I understand it, make the grid more unstable, >> not less. >> >> So, as we decline as a great power and evolve into a third >> world country >> (California is just the beginning, and things will pick up speed), >> occasional power outages will be a minor inconvenience. >> >> Joel >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 07:55:39AM -0500, Michael Hipp wrote: >> > Jack Berger wrote: >> > > Maybe this is the wake up call that we need to upgrade >> the existing >> > > system to (at least) current demand. >> > >> > All true. And it's not as if this is the first time such a >> thing has >> > happened. >> > >> > The proper name for it is: "Dancing on the edge of the cliff". >> > >> > Michael >> > >> > ___ >> > Linux-users mailing list >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users >> > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I've hosed my clock setup
Just a guess. UTC=false clock set to local time Pacific time Zone is -7 you are off by 7 hours try setting it to Atlantic/Reykjavik On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 08:13:34 -0700 (PDT) - "Kevin O'Gorman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: I've hosed my clock setup >I don't know what I did the last time I went to adjust my machine's >clock, but it seems Linux no longer talks nice to the hardware clock. >Every time I boot, the clock is off by 7 hours, and for my setup >thats usually once a day (no fault of Linux, I just have to shut this >off at night). > >The system is RH 7.3, and the contents of /etc/sysconfig/clock are > >ZONE="America/Los_Angeles" >UTC=false >ARC=false > >I keep the hardware clock in local time because I dual-boot to other >OS-es once in a while. Here's what it looks like: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] rc.d]# /sbin/hwclock -r >Fri 15 Aug 2003 07:53:56 AM PDT 0.849306 seconds >[EMAIL PROTECTED] rc.d]# /sbin/hwclock -r --localtime >Fri 15 Aug 2003 07:54:12 AM PDT 0.268908 seconds >[EMAIL PROTECTED] rc.d]# /sbin/hwclock -r --utc >Fri 15 Aug 2003 12:54:18 AM PDT 0.280746 seconds >[EMAIL PROTECTED] rc.d]# > >However, on each reboot KDE's clock in the panel, and the 'date' >program both report time as if I used UTC; in the above example >that was 12:54 AM. > >I'm baffled and sleepless in California. > >++ kevin > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: northeast power outage
Detriot did it! On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 23:25:33 -0500 - Jack Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: northeast power outage >Tom Marinis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Beside, nothing more will happen today, since the NORTHEAST >> power outage occured around 2:00pm PST, 5:00pm EST. >> >> [ Probably a power generator being controlled by >> POWER MANAGER, and that computer suffered a >> MS windows BSOD fault ] > >Well, could be, but... > >Ted Kopel interviewed FORMER fed cyber security czar Richard Clark. >What a self serving piece of work this guy is, insinuating that this >is the work of terrorist hackers, since the electrical system was >designed to contain this type of outage to a small area. (Yeah under >the load conditions of 20-30 years ago!) Sensationalism at its best. > >The truth is that everyone wants/loves/needs electricity, but no one >wants to pay for it in terms of building the necessary infrastructure >to support it (NIMBY). Large portions of the existing electrical grid >are operating at or near the operating limits and stability margins >they were designed for. The dynamics of the inter-connected power >grids is very complex. In some areas it doesn't take much to cause an >outage or disturbance, which depending on the magnitude, and where it >occurs, can cascade to neighboring locations. Most of the grid can >handle a voltage sag. The problem is when some segments of the grid >trip off-line they cause phase shifts on the system, which are harder >to deal with. > >Maybe this is the wake up call that we need to upgrade the existing >system to (at least) current demand. > >-jhb- >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: time waster, but also a question
On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 14:14:25 +0200 - Klaus-Peter Schrage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: OT: time waster, but also a question >> >Right now, I can't tell you if there is any sound at all on my computer >- last night I have been to a ZZTop concert in Hannover, standing 10 >yards in front of the stage, and my ears are still ringing ... >Klaus > and did you inhale? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Improved "pager" for man pages
A here document, << END_HERE this and more blah but only just text \,$,` need to be escaped vars are interpolated END_HERE note: the END_HERE to terminate the here doc must be alone on the line and no leading white space and no statement terminator(;) is used. You might use this to include the whole text of a script you want ot write on the fly then call and have it eat itself when done. On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:23:31 -0400 - Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Improved "pager" for man pages >Well, I couldn't leave well enuf alone. >I got annoyed by my new and improved man pager, since the calling shell >can't be used until the acroread session is closed. > >So, here is the better mouse trap. It needs two scripts, not one. >First script is called Man > >man -t $1 > /tmp/junk$$ >[ -a /tmp/junk$$ ] || exit >ps2pdf /tmp/junk$$ /tmp/$1 >rm /tmp/junk$$ >ReadMan $1 & > >The second script is called ReadMan > >acroread /tmp/$1 >rm /tmp/$1 > >To use it, just type: >Man ping [or whatever] and voila. > >A nice part is that you can use the shell again, and if you want, open >another man page with Man rm [or whatever]. The second man page is opened >up in the same instance of acroread, making things very convenient. > >Now, this would be nicer if someone could show me how to make this into >just one script. A here document might be the way to go, but I have >never figured those out. > >Joel > >On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 09:38:09PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: >> Don't know why, but with lindows 4 I have lost my usual vi like button >> functionality with the man pager. Oh well. >> >> So, here is a "pager" which is greatly improved. This allows searching >> as well, which wouldn't work with just the postscript output. Of course, >> this only runs in a GUI, but, that's where I spend most of my time these >> days, anyway. >> >> #!/bin/sh >> man -t $1 > /tmp/junk$$ >> ps2pdf /tmp/junk$$ /tmp/junkpdf$$ >> acroread /tmp/junkpdf$$ >> rm /tmp/junk$$ >> rm /tmp/junkpdf$$ >> >> Joel >> >> ___ >> Linux-users mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users_ >__ Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: worms worms worms
It must be getting bad. Charter just send a mass mailing about the worm and specifically mention port 135. I run an NT box at home and since day two it has not an email client nor does RPC work, I disabled it to manual. I do get an event error at boot but NT does not need re-booting much so it really is not a bother. On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 20:59:01 -0500 - Michael Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: worms worms worms >Collins Richey wrote: > >> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 18:25:44 -0400 >> Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Not being even an XP lightweight - how does one find out whether ports >> are open or blocked on WinXP? > >Quickest way is to go to http://grc.com and run his "Shields Up!" test >against your address. That will tell you for sure what is visible from >the outside. > >Michael > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Cron idiosyncrasy
>On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:36:02 -0400 - Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>the following
>Re: Cron idiosyncrasy
I use the following to kill runaways. Can be set to let a heavy app alone by
increasing the loadtot and sleep time.
!/usr/bin/perl
sleep(5);
$killcomm = 'kill -9';
# 0.00 to 100.00
$loadtot = '50.00';
$exec = `ps ax -o \'pcpu pid\'`;
for $upid (split(/\n/, $exec)){
chomp($upid);
$upid =~ s/^\s+|\s+$//g;
$upid =~ s/\s+/\|/g;
($ucpu, $pid) = split(/\|/, $upid);
$pid =~ s/^\s+|\s+$//g;
if($ucpu > $loadtot){
if($ARGV[0] ne '-c'){system("$killcomm $pid");}else {system("$killcomm
$pid");}
}
else {$nerror = 1;}
}
if($nerror && $ARGV[0] ne '-c'){exit(1);}
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:36:02 -0400 - Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
the following
Re: Cron idiosyncrasy
>Opera, when run on a remote X client, often hangs this thang called
>motifwrapper, which then consumes 99% of the CPU. This annoys all three
>users on this box. I think it has to do with flash, and it was supposed
>to have been fixed but it ain't in my hands so anyway:
>Running top | grep operamotifwrap is a great way to find these processes and
>kill them. (Only high consumption processes get listed with top, in my
>experience.)
>This script runs fine when invoked from the command line:
>#!/bin/bash
>for i in `/usr/bin/top -n1 | grep operamotifwrap | sed "s/ .*//"`
>do
>kill -9 $i
>done
>
>However, there is a problem using top with cron, so I thought I would
>mention it. When this script is called with cron, this error appears:
>
> tcgetattr() (undefined or something)
>
>This is fixed by including the -b flag, as suggested in the man page for
>top.
>
>Like so:
>
> for i in `/usr/bin/top -n1 -b | grep operamotifwrap | sed "s/ .*//"`
>
>Happy scripting.
>
>Joel
>
>
>
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Re: Logon time limits
Go look at ISP accounting packages or maybe cafe software, you will probably want to run some type of raduis server for authentication. On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 17:09:02 -0500 - Alma J Wetzker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Logon time limits >Is there a way to set logon time limits for up to a set number of hours > in an arbitrary time period (like a week)? > >The goal is to limit logon time for the kids over a week to cut down on >fighting over the computers on the network. I really don't want to >confine them to a set time period each day because that will not help >them learn to budget their own time. > >TIA > > -- Alma > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:02:44 -0700 - "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: LinuxWorld 2003! >Just got back from a full day at LinuxWorld in San Francisco. This was my >3rd LW, and in my opinion, this was the best of the bunch. I arrived a >half hour before the floor opened at 10AM, and already the place was packed. > snip > >Xandros (Lindows competitor, with an updated Corel Linux) was giving away a >full boxed set of their desktop distro to the first 1000 attendants. All >day the line was very long. I got mine, which notably comes with a >registered copy of WineX & Crossover. Lucky dog! >Pictures are available here: >http://netllama.linux-sxs.org/pix/lwce/ > > ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Problem with Spamassassin
The raq's have an upgrade utility via http. the support site has upgrades, you just keep current. If you blow your box with non raq software they will help for free once maybe twice, most likely they will offer($) to send you a restore CD. On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 16:33:07 -0600 - Andrew Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Problem with Spamassassin >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >Swapana Ghosh wrote: > >| Could you please tell me the line no. 2,3 ? >| In my present installation I am not starting/stopping >| spamasassin. I am >| starting/stopping *spamd*.. As i have installed >| spamc/spamd. > >You can use the method you describe below. /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamd stop > >| Now before this I need to tell about my present >| configurtatoin and server >| Here it is . Pl. advice me how I will proceed in this >| present scenario.. >| >| >| First of all my server is Cobalt Raq4r. So there we >| can't upgrade the perl etc(if it is required) as we >| are under warranty of Cobalt. >| > > >I would ask Cobalt about the upgrades then. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Problem with Spamassassin
You need to make a mailfolder for it and have procmail drop it there.
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 12:45:56 -0700 (PDT) - Swapana Ghosh
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following
Re: Problem with Spamassassin
>Hi
>
> Few months back I have insalled
>*spamassassin* with spamc/spamd
>in one of our server.
>
> As i have failed in subscribing to the
>spamassassin list(they are giving message that they
>sent email to my address for authentication but i did
>not receive any mail from them till yet :-) ) so i am
>asking my questions here. If anybody answers me though
>, it will be helpful...
>
> As i am getting information from our clients
>that they are getting spam mails - that means few
>mails are not being filtered by spamc/spamd. No. of
>hits is showing -(ve)
>
> I checked the log file. I found that the mail
>which, one of the clint has reported, those are
>showing as *clear messages* .
>
> Here i is the user-prefs configuration ::
>
>___
>
># How many hits before a mail is considered spam.
>required_hits 4
>#
># score SYMBOLIC_TEST_NAME n.nn
>subject-tag {SPAM?}
>report_header 1
>___
>
> Here is the mail which client has forwarded
>to me::: I have changed the client email address as
>per their wish...
>
>___
>Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Received: from thebestpr1nt1ngs1teever.com
>(cpe-24-197-101-203.spart.sc.charter.com
>[24.197.101.203])
> by server (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h71NZPP27293
> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 16:35:25 -0700
>Message-ID:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: PRINTING CARTRIDGES, Ideal Prices
>Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 07:44:30 -0600
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="us-ascii"
>X-Priority: 3
>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE
>V6.00.2800.1106
>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by
>server id
>h71NZPP27293
>X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=4.0
>
>tests=INVALID_MSGID,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,TONER,
> USER_AGENT_OE
> version=2.41
>X-Spam-Level:
>
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>
>Please see our stores,
>feel what
>others already have, the best ink
>cartridges
>at an amazining price
>
>I offer any
>models including,
>Canon,
>Lexmark Epson, and HP
>
> http://u-need-1nk-we-th1nk.com/neb.html
>___
>It will be apprecited if some one guides me and help
>me out - Can it be possible to solve this problem if
>any thing is set to the user_pref file? The version of
>spamassassin , i am running is 2.41.
>
>Regards.
>-Swapna
>
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Re: Unknown host error message when trying to ping Internet
Just curious xxx.xxx.32.xxx xxx.xxx.33.xxx is there a typo or just a coincidence? On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 12:50:40 -0600 - bof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Unknown host error message when trying to ping Internet >pcisys.net uses 216.229.32.173 as their mail server. Their DNS server is >216.229.33.250. > >If I try to dig or nslookup "pcisys.net" I get a "connection timed out. >no servers could be reached" message. > >Wil McGilvery wrote: > >>I performed an nslookup and this is what I got. >> >>pcisys.net. A 216.229.32.173 >> >>Regards, >> >>Wil McGilvery >>Manager >>Lynch Digital Media Inc >> >> >> >>416-744-7949 >>416-716-3964 (cell) >>1-866-314-4678 >>416-744-0406 FAX >>www.LynchDigital.com >> >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Net Llama! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:16 PM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>You sure that's the right IP for the nameserver? What happens if you try >>to dig or nsloopkup? >> >>On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, bof wrote: >> >> >>>Yes. I can ping 216.229.33.250 and get a reply. But if I try and ping >>>"pcisys.net" (216.229.33.250 is the nameserver for pcisys.net), I get >>>the "unknown host pcisys.net" error message. >>> >>>So how do I correct this? >>> >>>BOF >>> >>>Net Llama! wrote: >>> >>> Can you ping the IPs in resolv.conf from the SuSE-8.2 box? If not, then that's your problem. On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, bof wrote: >I am trying to set up a Suse 8.2 desktop box, (Bob, address >192.168.1.33) but am having trouble connecting to the Internet. I am >not running a firewall on it. > >I can ping an Internet address by IP address without problem. When I >try to ping by hostname I receive the error message "unknown host." > >I can ping other machines local to my network by both IP address and >hostname without problem. One of the other machines in the network >(Sam, address 192.168.1.2, RH 7.3) has no problems when pinging the >Internet, either by IP address or hostname, and it can ping the Suse >box without problem. > >My Internet access is through a NAT gateway/firewall box with address >192.168.1.1 (Bill) on the internal net card, and whatever address >assigned to tthe external card by my ISP using DHCP. From the firewall >box, I can ping the Suse box, the RH box, and the Internet using both >IP address and hostname, all without problems, > >The configuration files for the Suse box are set up as follows: > >/etc/hosts > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 192.168.1.1 bill.mynet.net bill > 192.168.1.2 sam.mynet.net sam > 192.168.1.33bob.mynet.net bob > > # special IPv6 addresses > ::1 localhost ipv6-localhost ipv6-loopback > fe00::0 ipv6-localnet > ff00::0 ipv6-mcastprefix > ff02::1 ipv6-allnodes > ff02::2 ipv6-allrouters > >/etc/host.conf > order hosts, bind > multi on > >/etc/resolv.conf > nameserver 216.229.33.250 > nameserver 216.229.33.251 > search local local > >/etc/nsswitch.conf > passwd: compat > group: compat > hosts: files dns > networks: files dns > services: files > protocols: files > rpc:files > ethers: files > netmasks: files > netgroup: files > publickey: files > bootparams: files > automount: files nis > aliases:files > > >The output of netstat -nr > >Kernel IP routing table >Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt face >192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 >0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 > >Can anyone help me figure out what is going on? > >BOF > > >>> >>>___ >>>Linux-users mailing list >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users>> >>> >> > > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Unknown host error message when trying to ping Internet
here is what I get. How do you have 216.229.32.250 set for a DNS server when it is not listed? ns2.pcisys.net - 216.29.32.166 ns1.pcisys.net - 216.229.32.170 banya.pcisys.net - 216.229.32.250 jerry.pcisys.net - 207.76.102.251 On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 11:51:04 -0600 - bof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Unknown host error message when trying to ping Internet >Yes. I can ping 216.229.33.250 and get a reply. But if I try and ping >"pcisys.net" (216.229.33.250 is the nameserver for pcisys.net), I get >the "unknown host pcisys.net" error message. > >So how do I correct this? > >BOF > >Net Llama! wrote: > >>Can you ping the IPs in resolv.conf from the SuSE-8.2 box? If not, then >>that's your problem. >> >>On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, bof wrote: >> >> >>>I am trying to set up a Suse 8.2 desktop box, (Bob, address >>>192.168.1.33) but am having trouble connecting to the Internet. I am >>>not running a firewall on it. >>> >>>I can ping an Internet address by IP address without problem. When I >>>try to ping by hostname I receive the error message "unknown host." >>> >>>I can ping other machines local to my network by both IP address and >>>hostname without problem. One of the other machines in the network >>>(Sam, address 192.168.1.2, RH 7.3) has no problems when pinging the >>>Internet, either by IP address or hostname, and it can ping the Suse >>>box without problem. >>> >>>My Internet access is through a NAT gateway/firewall box with address >>>192.168.1.1 (Bill) on the internal net card, and whatever address >>>assigned to tthe external card by my ISP using DHCP. From the firewall >>>box, I can ping the Suse box, the RH box, and the Internet using both >>>IP address and hostname, all without problems, >>> >>>The configuration files for the Suse box are set up as follows: >>> >>>/etc/hosts >>> 127.0.0.1 localhost >>> 192.168.1.1 bill.mynet.net bill >>> 192.168.1.2 sam.mynet.net sam >>> 192.168.1.33bob.mynet.net bob >>> >>> # special IPv6 addresses >>> ::1 localhost ipv6-localhost ipv6-loopback >>> fe00::0 ipv6-localnet >>> ff00::0 ipv6-mcastprefix >>> ff02::1 ipv6-allnodes >>> ff02::2 ipv6-allrouters >>> >>>/etc/host.conf >>> order hosts, bind >>> multi on >>> >>>/etc/resolv.conf >>> nameserver 216.229.33.250 >>> nameserver 216.229.33.251 >>> search local local >>> >>>/etc/nsswitch.conf >>> passwd: compat >>> group: compat >>> hosts: files dns >>> networks: files dns >>> services: files >>> protocols: files >>> rpc:files >>> ethers: files >>> netmasks: files >>> netgroup: files >>> publickey: files >>> bootparams: files >>> automount: files nis >>> aliases:files >>> >>> >>>The output of netstat -nr >>> >>>Kernel IP routing table >>>Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt face >>>192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 >>>0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 >>> >>>Can anyone help me figure out what is going on? >>> >>>BOF >>> > > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: spam issues
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:34:12 -0700 - Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: spam issues >On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:15:17PM -0600, collins wrote: >... >>Unfortunately it's not comcast that will eat the bounces. In order to >>get broadband service (DSL is not offered), I have to use comcast.net (I >>don't know anything about comcast.com), and since people are so friendly >>about bulk blocking of anything they don't like, I already have one user >>list that I can neither unsubscribe from nor post to, since all mail is >>bounced. >> >>comcast.net users have no control. Fortunately, I'm not being blocked >>by any other group. It seems to me that spam filters would be a more >>friendly approach, rather than assuming that all users on the domain are >>spam. > No wonder I never saw your post. Comcast is unable to maintain control of their system, abuse is rampant. An email addy from comcast is getting more and more useless each day. >You might be surprised at who's blocking comcast, and not just with RBLs, >but router level blocks on SMTP from 12.254.0.0/16 and 172.128.0.0/10. >We're talking some major U.S. national broadband providers who've given up >on trying to get comcast/attbi to deal with their issues. > >AOL recently started block connections from any server that doesn't have >rDNS (Reverse Domain Name Service). We've been doing that here for several >months, and it has done wonders for the spam levels with few false >positives. This isn't blocking on rDNS that doesn't agree with the HELO >announcement, only hosts with no rDNS. It can be argued that anybody who's >running a legitimate mail server should at least be able to get some type >of rDNS working (and yes, I know of a local ISP here who's DSL netblocks >come from uu.net, and uu.net can't/won't delegate the rDNS to the ISP). > >Folks on this list may well argue that this shouldn't apply to them, but >for every cable/dsl use who has a clue, there are thousands who don't. The >clueless ones install Windows systems directly to their broadband >connection with no firewall/router, giving access to all the insecure >Microsoft stuff (but I repeat myself). > >Bill >-- >INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Systems, Inc. >UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way >FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 >URL: http://www.celestial.com/ > >We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a >man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. >-- Winston Churchill >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: spam issues
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:00:44 -0600 - Andrew Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: spam issues >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >ronnie gauthier wrote: >| I've had it with spam, RBL's bite. So what to do? >| I have taken drastic measures. I wish others would follow suit. We >could kill >| spam in short order. How? I have got fed up with yahoo a while back >and blocked >| them. A while back I had a rash of spam from comcast.com and mail them and >| complained heavily, it stopped. Until this week. Now comcast is blocked. >| When I say blocked I dont mean filtered I mean blocked from all my >domains and >| clients mail servers. FSCK to domains with a lax attitude about spam, >let them >| eat bounces. >| ___ >| Linux-users mailing list >| [EMAIL PROTECTED] >| Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > >I attended the USENIX conference in San Antonio last month for the >Sendmail seminar. Eric Allman (the author of Sendmail) said that in the >near future we will see email become fragmentary and crippled due to the >neglect by ISP's to adequately punish the spammers they're providing >services to, or condoning through their inaction. More and more people >and companies will flatly refuse any mail from entire netblocks or >domains which will cripple the ability of legitimate users to >communicate with the rest of the world. The key is to inform those >people of the exact reasoning why their ISP is "bad" and encourage them >to use someone legitimate. If the ISP has no customers because they're >blacklisted, the problem will become theirs, instead of ours. >Personally, I encourage the use of blacklists, provided they're >responsible, act quickly, and provide unbiased services that allow a >problem to be fixed and remove the offender as quickly as they list >them. Somewhere between allowing it all, and blocking it all is the >happy medium, and it's going to be different for everyone. > I realize that I'm not alone in blocking domains and that it is mainly an act of total frustration and completely unfair to the unculpable user. OTOH, as I stated before, one domain...big deal...one hundred...BIG DEAL. blocked by one domain and you will beleive your ISP when they say something wrong on the other end. But if 50% of everything they send gets refused...then, well, the ISP cannot say it is an outside problem any longer. That is a huge incentive not to host spammers or to tolerate misuse of their system. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: spam issues
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:46:40 -0400 - Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: spam issues Its been a few years since I dealt with being blocked and have hated and not used RBL's since then. I'll have to take another look at them again now. thanks! >Using the appropriate RBL's can lead to a drop in 95% of all spam, and I have >yet to hear complaints. The trick is choosing RBL's that are comprehensive, >deterministic, and responsive. This means that some of the RBL's out there >that don't allow your servers off the list when closed just don't find their >way in my config. > >I also use SpamAssassin and Bogofilter (Bayesian algorithm) and tagging >(allowing the filtering to be done at the client or last server with >procmail/sieve instead of at the front-end servers. Since I also use RBL's I >can't tell you how effective these are. I hardly ever see spam... > >Frying Spam: >http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/03/06/index2a.html > > > >On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:13:52 -0500 >ronnie gauthier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I've had it with spam, RBL's bite. So what to do? >> I have taken drastic measures. I wish others would follow suit. We could >> kill spam in short order. How? I have got fed up with yahoo a while back and >> blocked them. A while back I had a rash of spam from comcast.com and mail >> them and complained heavily, it stopped. Until this week. Now comcast is >> blocked. When I say blocked I dont mean filtered I mean blocked from all my >> domains and clients mail servers. FSCK to domains with a lax attitude about >> spam, let them eat bounces. >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: spam issues
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:57:47 -0400 - Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: spam issues I agree with you in theory but all RBL's are not equal. But what I've seen is that once on one its a bitch to get unlisted. They also get legitimate web sites in the same block as the spammer. We got RBL'd once. It was a nightmare. Ya, it was our fault, we were open for a bit but the result was that even after the block was lifted we were still blocked at many domains and had to contact them individualy. I remember it took forever to get IBM to unblock us. That is a lesson not forgotten. That is why I chose to block by domain. >RBL's are still better than SA or other filters... > >Why? Because properly selected RBL's (ie. Deterministic, easy to get off of) >actually allow you to block based on a PROBLEM! RBL's that you want to use >are Open Relay black lists and Dialup server blacklists. These are PROBLEMS >to be FIXED. They aren't attempting to look for the appropriate number of >"Free" and "XXX" in the email, which could be used in real life email. > >I have been blocked before. I used to administer a GroupWise system that was >difficult to lock down. This was before I learned about RBL's. They >rightfully flagged my server as an Open Relay (anyone can send email to >anywhere/anyone) and when I checked the server, we had a HUGE backlog of >emails which the spammers had sent to anyone and everyone. We got the server >configured correctly and then got off the RBL. It was inconvenient, but RBL's >are a real part of a good strategy against SPAM, and will be around for as >long as SPAM is around. And this is why. > ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: spam issues
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:47:51 -0500 - "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: spam issues Go get 'em. > >As an ISP, I'm striking back locally. > >I own my netblocks. I have my sights on a local spammer. I've now >billed them 2 months for using my servers and my bandwidth for their >commercial advertising to my clients. Next week, I send out a past due >notice with a note that if they don't pay within a week, I'll start >court proceedings against them for non-payment. I plan to sequester >their company as part of the whole thing. Will let folks know as I go >how it goes. > >In the states, I'd suggest not suing the spammers, but go after the >folks hiring them. Many spam links lead to companies/servers in the US. > Go after those folks with a vengeance. I suspect you'll have to be >using your own mail server to make claims like I am. But if companies >start learning that hiring spammers will land them in court, they'll >probably stop and spam will become a non-issue. > >Ciao, > >David A. Bandel >-- >Focus on the dream, not the competition. > Nemesis Racing Team motto >GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: spam issues
Not exactly, at least thats not how I see it. If enough users of an ISP or email suppliers complain they are blocked by one, big deal, blocked by dozens, then it begins to matter and the ISP's must take notice. We as an admin community have done nothing to stop the spam problem. Oh, some filteer, most have a TOS that they stick to but thats it. Hell, when it gets bad enough that congress looks into it you know that congress will shit on you with their solution. If it a drastic enough problem then we should deal with it ourselves. I know that blocking innocent users is not with the spirit of the Internet but any solution congress comes up with will be worse and we can remove blocks easily with a few edits. No so with whatever solution congress comes up with, you wont just edit that away. On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:33:22 -0400 (EDT) - Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: spam issues >On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, ronnie gauthier wrote: >> I've had it with spam, RBL's bite. So what to do? >> I have taken drastic measures. I wish others would follow suit. We could kill >> spam in short order. How? I have got fed up with yahoo a while back and >blocked> them. A while back I had a rash of spam from comcast.com and mail them >and> complained heavily, it stopped. Until this week. Now comcast is blocked. >> When I say blocked I dont mean filtered I mean blocked from all my domains >and> clients mail servers. FSCK to domains with a lax attitude about spam, let >them> eat bounces. > >what is that solving? spam preys on the weakest link & lowest common >denominator. blocking off entire netblocks is just cutting off your nose >to spite your face. > >-- >~~ >Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
spam issues
I've had it with spam, RBL's bite. So what to do? I have taken drastic measures. I wish others would follow suit. We could kill spam in short order. How? I have got fed up with yahoo a while back and blocked them. A while back I had a rash of spam from comcast.com and mail them and complained heavily, it stopped. Until this week. Now comcast is blocked. When I say blocked I dont mean filtered I mean blocked from all my domains and clients mail servers. FSCK to domains with a lax attitude about spam, let them eat bounces. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Restrict logins by time
Yes. Should work OK. I have read that PAM can get in the way, if it does dont use usertty just the securetty. On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:13:57 -0400 - Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Restrict logins by time >Beautiful. >According to man login looks like I just create an /etc/usertty file to >do exactly what I want. > >Thanks, >Tim > >On 7/28/2003 1:56 PM, someone claiming to be ronnie gauthier wrote: >> man login >> etc/securetty >> etc/usertty >> >> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:06:05 -0400 - Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote >> the >> following >> Re: Restrict logins by time >> >> >>>Is there a way to restrict a user or group so that they can only login >>>during a certain time? >>> >>>Using RHL 8.0. I've tried looking at redhat-config-users, and >>>/etc/security/limits.conf, but nothing jumped out at me... >>> >>>I've got a feeling that it isn't possible :-( >>> >>>Thanks, >>>Tim >>> >>> >>>___ >>>Linux-users mailing list >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >>>http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users >> >> ___ >> Linux-users mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users> > > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Restrict logins by time
man login etc/securetty etc/usertty On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:06:05 -0400 - Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Restrict logins by time >Is there a way to restrict a user or group so that they can only login >during a certain time? > >Using RHL 8.0. I've tried looking at redhat-config-users, and >/etc/security/limits.conf, but nothing jumped out at me... > >I've got a feeling that it isn't possible :-( > >Thanks, >Tim > > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] Congrats
I guess wet corners can be a bitch. On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 18:11:19 +0200 - Klaus-Peter Schrage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: [OT] Congrats >... to all Americans on this list for Lance Armstrong's fifth Tour de >France victory. >I hope you know what I'm talking about - cycling doesn't seem to be very >popular in the US, in spite of Lance. >For me, the TdF is the sports event of the year. >Klaus > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] I can't believe this can be happening ????????
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:46:26 -0500 - Stuart Biggerstaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: [OT] I can't believe this can be happening >Well, yeah. But they are applying a very ambitious reading of what is >derivative. If the courts agree, ultimately BSD, MacOS X, and maybe even >Windows NT/2000/XP would also be vulnerable. For the most part SCO aren't >claiming that advanced features were "stolen" from UNIX by Linux, but that >because of contracts with them the companies actually doing the work should >have contributed it only to UNIX, but instead also contributed THEIR OWN >WORK to Linux. > Thats about what SCO seems to be saying. But BSD, OS X, and WIn would not be included in that I would think. >Funny, it has been the aim of the FSF since its start to produce a free >alternative to UNIX. SCO is saying that if it is indeed an alternative to >UNIX then by definition it falls under their IP. > > Not at all, only parts containing or deriverd from their liscense with IBM, and at this point other unnamed IHV's or so they have hinted in the past. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????
SCO is calling those derivatives of their work. On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:52:57 -0500 - Stuart Biggerstaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen >Huh? Not even SCO is saying this. They're saying (in particular) that >since IBM spent their own R&D funds on features for their own UNIX that >adding those features to Linux, so it can support their own hardware--they >are violating their contract with SCO. > >They are also apparently claiming that even if the code is totally not >shared, that if a system works like UNIX it is a copy of UNIX and thus >violates their IP. BSD might be shielded from this by the earlier >lawsuit--but it might not be, as the earlier suit was a) settled and b) >sealed. So writing around offending code (for developers) or migrating to >BSD (for users) isn't necessarily protection. > >At 02:15 PM 7/23/03 -0500, ronnie gauthier wrote: >>The only reason Linux has developed so fast is the very reason it is in >>peril now. They were given, or appropiated, complicated chunks of code >>taht took >>others years and more $$ than the whole Linux kernal cost from start to >>R&D the >>code plus access to the hardware needed to test and develop it. The Linux >>community could not have done JFS or NUMA on its own, not and remained a >>viable >>timely alternative. Remove that and what happens to Linux kernal? > > > >Stuart Biggerstaff > >Linda Hall Library of Science Engineering & Technology >5109 Cherry St. >Kansas City, MO 64110 > >Phone: (816) 926-8748 > (800) 662-1545 x748 >FAX:(816) 926-8785 >URL:www.lindahall.org > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:32:54 -0400 - Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen >My Bet: >It won't work anyway. Linux may actually be slowed a little by all this, but >SCO, Sun, and Microsoft are all sitting on one of the last pieces of >artillary, hoping they will only have to worry about each other once again... >But what they fail to recognize is while they focus on Linux, BSD is still >developing and much of the Linux core which is NOT in question may be >integrated into the BSD's at any time to provide the additional friendliness >and HW support that they have been lacking. They will not be able to breath >easy... ever. I dont see BSD ever doing that. They have remained pure *nix AFAIK. >The software industry landscape has been forever changed, and it is forcing >difficult adjustments on all software companies involved, although mostly on >the behemoth OS vendors. That's because Open Source OS'es are farther >advanced than most of the other software, since they've been worked on and >refined longer than most other OSS projects. The only reason Linux has developed so fast is the very reason it is in peril now. They were given, or appropiated, complicated chunks of code taht took others years and more $$ than the whole Linux kernal cost from start to R&D the code plus access to the hardware needed to test and develop it. The Linux community could not have done JFS or NUMA on its own, not and remained a viable timely alternative. Remove that and what happens to Linux kernal? >Given time, other areas will >face fierce competition from OSS as well. This will be the equalizer, >abrupting the mentality that customers are kept by "lock-in", Marketting, and >FUD. Perhaps the end result will be software companies which aim to keep >market share by actually writing good and innovative code! Or maybe not. > OSS is a great concept. In practice however is does not live up to its implied expectations. An example would be OpenOffice and its predicessor, StarOffice. Both were supposed to be M$Office killers. We're developing, just wait, we will have file compatability, its coming, full excel compatability,soon... just how long does it take, and how long will the potential convertees wait. Just as we hate FUD, OSS spreads the exact opposite, Hope-Anxiousness-Conviction(HAC) which is just as false. Most OSS packages dont live up to the task of being the M$ killer application or even equal, and OO has more R&D clout behind it than probably any other OSS project. I use open source whenever I can but the fact is that is will be a long time before OO=M$Office, OSS cad apps=AutoCad, gimp=photoshop. It is this that really hinders the adaptation of linux to the desktop not the "extra features" that freely come with poorly written apps. The OSS community will never keep up, let alone catch up with the likes of an Adobe or AutoDesk. >On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:33:30 -0500 >Alma J Wetzker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> In reguards to SCO, we have to remember that SUN is paying a good chunk >> of SCO's legal fees. The traditional *nix vendors have had some very >> profitable niches gutted by Windoze. They are starting to see the same >> from linux and M$ has also noticed. I think they are all working to >> shut down linux on the "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" theory. The >> only problem is who has the dagger and who has the back between SUN and >> M$? Any bets? >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:43:09 -0400 - Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen >I disagree here. Linux is in the best position to kill Windows on the >desktops and Servers... There are market reasons for it. But the BSD's can >benefit from Linux code and be in the same position if they choose to, give >time and some other Marketting Wave. > What do you disagree with? I said, " >> The computer world agrees that linux is the only OS that has the possibility >> to be the windows killer. " >As for IBM, I don't know if I'd say that they'll never get back the money >they've invested in Linux... Truth is, Linux is the glue which ties all their >platforms together. Linux will run on the pSeries (RS6000/AIX), the eSeries >(AS400/OS400) and the zSeries (MVS/OS390), as well as all their Intel/Motorola >hardware. While this may force a cut in IBM's staff at some point, it makes And before Linux is was AIX on those platforms. >sense for IBM to centralize on Linux. Why? Because Microsoft doesn't run on >most of those platforms. There is a lot of business that Linux opens up to >IBM. Suddenly IBM's Big hardware can run the core File and Print, DNS, DHCP, >and Web for any Fortune 500 company who needs the uptime and the power. They >are finding their huge hardware being ousted by systems that are cheaper to >maintain. Linux allows all their systems to keep basically one codebase (with >minor exceptions) and that codebase isn't even theirs to maintain... and >better yet, it doesn't cost them a cent. IBM is a hardware and services >company. This is right up their alley. > I agree with this portion. IBM just dropped two low end windows storage platforms this week. But... all this and their outward support for Linux in no way means they would not rather have the OS software revenue back, the R&D is basically done there. By keeping quiet about SCO's media attack(which is really all it is so far) they will not anger any existing or potential customers, just the opposite, they will trust IBM as the company that finally bought SCO and resuced Linux. They only want to slowdown development for a year or two to retrench *nix. And just where is HP in all this? They will be one of the biggest winners in this if Linux stalls. > >On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 01:12:14 -0500 >ronnie gauthier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The computer world agrees that linux is the only OS that has the possibility >> to be the windows killer. The only thorn that little billy could not scare, >> buy, or bottom feed to death. What no one has really said is that along that >> killers path is the death of commercial *nix. The windows crowd does not >> care, the Linux crowd does not care, the *nix users are glad to save $$ just >> as the M$ converts to Linux are. No one is unhappy except billy and >> commercial *nix. I think they all put their pointy heads together and cooked >> up a plan to stall Linux as long as they could, desperation can create >> strange bedfellows. Going on the fact that everything is not as it seems, I >> like the sound of IBM. Even though IBM has fully embraced linux on the >> public front, it is not a profitable long term strategy, as they are finding >> out. They are not ever going to get back the money they are now and have >> invested in linux. > >-- >Matthew Carpenter >[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ > >Enterprise Information Systems >* Network Service Appliances >* Network Consulting, Integration & Support >* Web Integration and E-Business >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:33:30 -0500 - Alma J Wetzker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen Yup, Everyone who has a commercial interest in Internet/Network software is feeling the effects of linux. And most of the effects felt are on the bottom end, and most of those are printed in red. Not counting little red fruit every commercial vendor was happier when linux was not a viable alternative and would sure like to see linux knocked out of the picture, whether they will admint it or not. The computer world agrees that linux is the only OS that has the possibility to be the windows killer. The only thorn that little billy could not scare, buy, or bottom feed to death. What no one has really said is that along that killers path is the death of commercial *nix. The windows crowd does not care, the Linux crowd does not care, the *nix users are glad to save $$ just as the M$ converts to Linux are. No one is unhappy except billy and commercial *nix. I think they all put their pointy heads together and cooked up a plan to stall Linux as long as they could, desperation can create strange bedfellows. Going on the fact that everything is not as it seems, I like the sound of IBM. Even though IBM has fully embraced linux on the public front, it is not a profitable long term strategy, as they are finding out. They are not ever going to get back the money they are now and have invested in linux. They now know this, they have for a while. Not only do they have to dump Linux they have to prop up the sagging interest and profit from *nix without alienateing the whole Linux community, who are their future potential customers. So how to do it? Just like they are. SCO throws as much FUD just as far and wide as it can. Only IBM can really sue them over this so far. IBM stays strangely silent. Then...well, thats where we are now. With a linux user community giving SCO the finger and the Fortune 500 that use Linux are a bit worried. >In reguards to SCO, we have to remember that SUN is paying a good chunk >of SCO's legal fees. The traditional *nix vendors have had some very >profitable niches gutted by Windoze. They are starting to see the same >from linux and M$ has also noticed. I think they are all working to >shut down linux on the "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" theory. The >only problem is who has the dagger and who has the back between SUN and >M$? Any bets? > > -- Alma > >> Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen >> ronnie gauthier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Tue, 22 Jul 2003 13:06:49 -0500 >> >> >> On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 06:04:34 -0400 - Michael Scottaline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote> the following >> Re: Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen >> >> I dont think that anything seen on the surface is SCO's real intention. >> >> Linux has taken a huge bite out of the *nix market and as a result >> commercial UNIX is not worth as much as it once was and related incomes are >also> dropping fast. Now we all know that if there is any bad code in the >kernal any> developer has already seen it(or cant reliably prove they didnt) >and it will be> difficult to continue as is. SCO could possibly stop the >distribution of any> kernal 2.4 and later. Which is what they want to, and will >if a judge> allows/agrees to it. But I dont think they want license fees >because surely> their planned binary only distribution is a violation of the >GPL and they will> be barred from distributing it. Now we have a mexican stand >off with UNIX the> clear winner. >> >> I dont believe in a conspiricy around every corner but... >> SCO did not plan this alone >> M$ was much happier when it was a *nix/Win playing field >> M$ would do anything in its power to make it so again >> >> As Captain Picard would say, "Make it so number one". > >___ > ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen ????????
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 06:04:34 -0400 - Michael Scottaline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: [OT] I can't belive this can be happen I dont think that anything seen on the surface is SCO's real intention. Linux has taken a huge bite out of the *nix market and as a result commercial UNIX is not worth as much as it once was and related incomes are also dropping fast. Now we all know that if there is any bad code in the kernal any developer has already seen it(or cant reliably prove they didnt) and it will be difficult to continue as is. SCO could possibly stop the distribution of any kernal 2.4 and later. Which is what they want to, and will if a judge allows/agrees to it. But I dont think they want license fees because surely their planned binary only distribution is a violation of the GPL and they will be barred from distributing it. Now we have a mexican stand off with UNIX the clear winner. I dont believe in a conspiricy around every corner but... SCO did not plan this alone M$ was much happier when it was a *nix/Win playing field M$ would do anything in its power to make it so again As Captain Picard would say, "Make it so number one". ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DSL Gotcha
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 10:32:46 -0400 - Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: DSL Gotcha Going back to my old support days. Wiring used for telephones, when used for telephones works fine. When the same wires are used for other purposes, including data transmission, strange things can and will happen. Depending on the quality and condition of the modular cord things can go from OK to not working at all, so the poorer the quality/condition the shorter it would need to be to minimize the effect. You might also want to check the polarity. Reverse polarity has virtually no effect on pots service but can put the skids to data transmission quality. Now this is all from modem use but I think that a DSL over pots would be open to some of the same pitfalls. > >I might add that I'm currently using (at least) a 25 foot phone cord for >DSL at my wife's house. (now sold) Goes from one bedroom, through a >closet, into another bedroom and around the wall... etc. > >Has worked just fine from day 1 of DSL install. I would guess that your >cord is picking up some interference from somewhere and that mine is >not. > > >-- >++ >+ Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 07/20/03 >10:31 + >++ >"I am having an out of money experience." > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Latest From SCO
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:15:25 -0400 - Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Latest From SCO License? I dont need no fscking license! I have two boxes at home that say Caldera on them and contain what I now consider to be a license to run as many copies of any linux I want. If they keep pushing this thing I'm going to waste a few dollars and send letters demanding my money back then take the idiots to small claims court. :-) and publish it all on the web. just a Q how many times could they ignore small claims courts from different states before a class action suit would be possible? more ~fun~ going to the small claims filers of course than later jumpers. >http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/07/18/HNscolicense_1.html > >-- >You will lose your present job and have to become a door to door >mayonnaise salesman. >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: small network problem
Back when mandrake 8.2 was out I was still on a dial up and it always barfed out and required a reboot. While the linux box continued to surf fine the other boxs hanging off the hub could not. I could stop and restart stuff till the cows came home and it still required a reboot. The freaking thing would just no longer act as a gateway. Cleared up when I added a Linksys router and used it as a gateway/firewall, imagine that. ;-) I blamed it on NAT. On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:54:48 -0400 - Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: small network problem >Yougest daughter has cvome back home, do they all do that over the years? >She is online sharing from downstairs, in both linux and windows on this >machine. All too often she cannot access the web, I reboot and its fine, this >is in windows xp on hers and Mandrake for me. I did this earlier and now she >tries again and its not connecting, this machine is fine. Something is flaky >and it looks like mine. > >-- >Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' >18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 >Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage > > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Nossos Melhores Cumprimentos linux-users
I'll take a dozen On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:15:37 - "Qualysoft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Nossos Melhores Cumprimentos linux-users >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Wal--Mart-SuSe
Walmart to sell Microtel SuSe Boxes http://news.com.com/2100-1016-1025780.html?tag=nl ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Home Network Connections
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:09:41 -0700 - "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Home Network Connections >On 07/14/03 16:40, Ken Moffat wrote: > >> ronnie gauthier wrote: >> >>> google "linux books online" >>> the link should show on the first page somewhere, see if you can >>> access from >>> there, if not your provider or some firewall is blocking it. >>> >>> >> http://www.infosyssec.org/infosyssec/linux2.htm >> I apologise. seems they have changed the links and the book are no longer there. Ronnie ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Home Network Connections
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:07:01 -0700 - Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Home Network Connections >ronnie gauthier wrote: > >>On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:12:48 -0700 - Tom Lombardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote>the following >>Re: Re: Home Network Connections >> >> >> >>>David, >>> >>>I just found out that you're a writer! This home network problem is >>>really, really frustrating for me. I bet you could write an article for >>>boneheads like me that would sell in a millisecond. Or write a _short_ >>> >>> >>> >> >>I'm not david, but... >> >>http://www.infosyssec.org/infosyssec/linux2.htm >>find a book you like then go buy the latest version or find a used copy. Lots >>are available from online auctions/amazom/halfprice/etc. >> >>http://www.infosyssec.org/infosyssec/linux4.htm >>http://www.infosyssec.org/infosyssec/linux1.htm >>has lots of linux links >> >>___ >>Linux-users mailing list >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users> >> > > Access forbidden! > >You don't have permission to access the requested object. It is >either read-protected or not readable by the server. > >If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Error 403 google "linux books online" the link should show on the first page somewhere, see if you can access from there, if not your provider or some firewall is blocking it. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Home Network Connections
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:12:48 -0700 - Tom Lombardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Home Network Connections > >David, > >I just found out that you're a writer! This home network problem is >really, really frustrating for me. I bet you could write an article for >boneheads like me that would sell in a millisecond. Or write a _short_ > I'm not david, but... http://www.infosyssec.org/infosyssec/linux2.htm find a book you like then go buy the latest version or find a used copy. Lots are available from online auctions/amazom/halfprice/etc. http://www.infosyssec.org/infosyssec/linux4.htm http://www.infosyssec.org/infosyssec/linux1.htm has lots of linux links ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Zaire still won't connect
Only experience I've had with XP is to reformat the drive its on and install W98. But if I had to guess I'd say its somewhere like Control Panel>Networking>right click>Properies. or use a network neighborhood or networking or whatever icon on the desktop represents taht. right click and explore the properties of them all. On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:11:53 -0500 - Michael Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Zaire still won't connect >Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > >> First you don't use the wizards . You do it via the control panel. > >If this were the XP-users list, I'd ask you how to do that. Everything I > touch brings up one of those horrid wizards full of questions written >by Hannibal Lectre. > >Michael > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Zaire still won't connect
I forgot about that, yup, doubt it would work. On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:03:52 -0700 - "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Zaire still won't connect >I'd be shocked if red carpet actually worked by default on Lindows, since >it would be a direct competitor with their PoS software warehouse. > >On 07/12/03 19:39, ronnie gauthier wrote: > >> Depending on the distro you are using Ximian has a thing call red carpet, an >> updater gui. It keeps gnome/evolution udated and also the distro itself. I >used> it in the past and pilot-link was one of the things it installed. When I >> installed evolution on a RH7.3 I did not install gnome anything on the >initial> install and when I put in evolution had all sorts of troubles until I >used red> carpet, then magic presto, all problems with evo were gone. >> >> On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:36:35 -0400 - Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >> the following >> Re: Re: Zaire still won't connect >> >> >>>I don't have pilot-link. Do I need it? >>> >>>I downloaded Ximian Evolution. It won't work with the palm because I >>>need some gnome tools. >>> >>>Grrr > >-- >~ >L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com > > 8:00pm up 7 days, 4:59, 1 user, load average: 0.77, 0.42, 0.19 > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Zaire still won't connect
Depending on the distro you are using Ximian has a thing call red carpet, an updater gui. It keeps gnome/evolution udated and also the distro itself. I used it in the past and pilot-link was one of the things it installed. When I installed evolution on a RH7.3 I did not install gnome anything on the initial install and when I put in evolution had all sorts of troubles until I used red carpet, then magic presto, all problems with evo were gone. On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:36:35 -0400 - Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Zaire still won't connect >I don't have pilot-link. Do I need it? > >I downloaded Ximian Evolution. It won't work with the palm because I >need some gnome tools. > >Grrr ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Wierd sound error message (was: Re: Freeze while CD burning onRH 8.0 (2.4.20-18.8)
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:03:27 -0700 (PDT) - Susan Macchia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Wierd sound error message (was: Re: Freeze while CD burning on RH 8.0 (2.4.20-18.8) You turn it on/off in the bios settings. When I had my problems all awas fine but when using the CD the mouse conflicted. I would do the modprobe crap and it would work until the next reboot then I would have to go through the crap again. I (in my newbie ignorance) had many reboots until I figured out that PNP and ISA cards dont work worth a darn. >Ok, so now a *really* dump question (remember I am a software geek - not >hardware!): how do I know if I have pnp enabled? And, if I can find that facet >out, should I (and how/should I) disable it ? > >Really! TIA bigtime here - I am out of my element. > > rRonnie gauthie wrote: >> Thats why I asked if you had PNP enabled. If you do then on a reboot it is >> possible that the IRQ would change and maybe a conflict could develop that >was >> not present before. Only reason I mention it is that I have a linux box that >is >> old, been through many died and swapped out parts. One thing that has stayed >> constant with the box is a SB 32AWE. Every time I have installed a new >distro, >> and at times some upgrades, have played hell getting the card to work > ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: resolving issue
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:39:43 -0400 - Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: resolving issue Thanks. Just had to make sure I was remembering it right, been about three years since I did ISP stuff. The host has it hosed somewhere, I can access via ftp with ftp.skylap.com and the user/pass so I am thinking that the user has been set up properly but that the hosts DNS entry for surprisewinner.com is typo'd or nonexistant. You'd think they would check that kinda stuff a bit closer, especially after they typoed the original setup as "surprizewinner.com". I keep telling him those cheap hosts are like two buck chuck. You get what you pay for. Thanks Ronnie >That is correct > > >mgc:/home/aiu1411 # dig surprisewinner.com > >; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> surprisewinner.com >;; global options: printcmd >;; Got answer: ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: resolving issue
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:41:37 -0400 (EDT) - Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: resolving issue >On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, ronnie gauthier wrote: >> I'm trying to help a friend out on his web hoster. >> >> A domain is pointed from a registar to a hosting agents DNS servers, the DNS >> servers are correct, I checked. >> The host claims to have the proper entries in their DNS server. >> >> If I set the nslookup server to the hosts main DNS server then query the >domain> name in question, I should get returned the IP from the hosters DNS, no >matter> if the registar DNS has fully propagated or not. In other words, if the >hoster> has DNS records correct I should never receive the following from >nslookup> >> > www.surprisewinner.com >> Server: ns1.skylap.com >> Address:207.44.216.141#53 >> >> ** server can't find www.surprisewinner.com: SERVFAIL > >No, that error means that ns1.skylap.com isn't serving DNS information. >Either its not a DNS server, or its broken. www.surprisewinner.com also >doesn't appear to be a valid domain, however. > >-- > The server is returning the info. : SERVFAIL means it cant find the domian : NXDOMAIN means there is no domain Upon query the ns1.skylap.com server returns correctly for other domains I know are valid. Just not for a domain they host and claim is setup and working. Thanks Ronnie ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Wierd sound error message (was: Re: Freeze while CD burning onRH 8.0 (2.4.20-18.8)
Thats why I asked if you had PNP enabled. If you do then on a reboot it is possible that the IRQ would change and maybe a conflict could develop that was not present before. Only reason I mention it is that I have a linux box that is old, been through many died and swapped out parts. One thing that has stayed constant with the box is a SB 32AWE. Every time I have installed a new distro, and at times some upgrades, have played hell getting the card to work correctly with lots of IRQ conflicts. And they lock it up tight. Ronnie On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:02:10 -0700 (PDT) - Susan Macchia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Wierd sound error message (was: Re: Freeze while CD burning on RH 8.0 (2.4.20-18.8) >But why would there be a conflict now, when there wasn't one before? I've >changed no hardware other then memory and have been runing RH 8.0 since it was >intially released. > > ronnie gauthier wrote: > >> Try unloading and reloading via82xxx_audio. I tried to help a friend in our >user >> group a while back and they had that problem with a via chipset, a SB live >and >> RH7x maybe 7.2 IIRC. When I seached google a lot of people had the same >driver >> problem. We fixed it by installing W2000( not my idea!). You could also try >> using the alsa drivers. >> > ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Freeze while CD burning on RH 8.0 (2.4.20-18.8)
Try unloading and reloading via82xxx_audio. I tried to help a friend in our user group a while back and they had that problem with a via chipset, a SB live and RH7x maybe 7.2 IIRC. When I seached google a lot of people had the same driver problem. We fixed it by installing W2000( not my idea!). You could also try using the alsa drivers. A lockup like that sounds like a possible IRQ conflict. Is PNP enabled? Ronnie On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:23:07 -0700 (PDT) - Susan Macchia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Freeze while CD burning on RH 8.0 (2.4.20-18.8) >On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Net Llama wrote: >> >> On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Susan Macchia wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I have been keeping my RH 8.0 system up to date using the RHN services. I >> > recently upgraded the kernel to 2.4.20-18.8, but when I try and burn a cd >under >> > that kernel, the system locks up - I mean freeze, no rsh, telnet, nada. >> > /var/log/messages tells me nothing. >> >> What command are you using to burn cds? > >I use gcombust (version 0.1.57). cdrecord is version 1.10-14 > >It happens at different points in the burn process (I am using re-writable cds >for backup); sometimes when doing a fast blank, sometimes the blank works fine >and it happens during the actual burn. Tried different CD-RW with same result. > >I didn't really pay attention to which commands gcombust was executing (prolly >should've...). > >> >> > >> > Do you think that the version of cdtools is incompatible? I have done >stock >> > upgrades as I have no time for "roll your own". I've had to boot into an >> > earlier kernel (2.4.18-27.8.0), so that I can burn CDs but now I see the >> > following error at the console (and in /var/log/messages): >> > >> > Jul 10 00:59:45 gandalf kernel: via82cxxx: timeout while reading AC97 codec >> > (0x9A) >> >> That looks like sound related stuff to me. > >Hmm, I am able to play sound with no problem (realplay, xmms, etc) - and when I >probe /proc, I see that my sound card is a VIA82C686 AC97, so via82cxxx must be >the module (its actually via82cxxx_audio). I only started seeing this after >updating the kernal to 2.4.20 & running the old one because of the cd burning >problems (of course I have't run long enough on the new kernel to really see). >When I have time, I'll have to try out the various combos to see... > >= >_ >Susan Macchia >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >_ > >- Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
resolving issue
I'm trying to help a friend out on his web hoster. A domain is pointed from a registar to a hosting agents DNS servers, the DNS servers are correct, I checked. The host claims to have the proper entries in their DNS server. If I set the nslookup server to the hosts main DNS server then query the domain name in question, I should get returned the IP from the hosters DNS, no matter if the registar DNS has fully propagated or not. In other words, if the hoster has DNS records correct I should never receive the following from nslookup > www.surprisewinner.com Server: ns1.skylap.com Address:207.44.216.141#53 ** server can't find www.surprisewinner.com: SERVFAIL Correct? Thanks Ronnie ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Moving Domain Registration
Get your new server running, point your DynDNS at the new IP. Change the nameservers at the registar to your new IP only after the new server is running stable. After a few weeks you can get rid of DynDNS as everything will be as propagated as it will get. Should keep you uninterupted. On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:46:46 -0400 - Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Moving Domain Registration >Hola, list, > >I need some advice. I'm moving from Comcast cable Internet service >to Speakeasy's DSL service. The DSL just became active, but I'm not >using it (much), yet. Meanwhile, my domain (Web site, email, other >stuff) is hanging off the cable service and my DNS is currently using >DynDNS to point at my IP address. I'm going to ditch the cable access >and use DSL - the terms of service with Speakeasy specifically permit >running server services, while Comcast does not, hence the switch. > >The challenge, though, it to keep KurtWerks accessible through the >transition, and I'm not quite sure how to handle that, or even if >it possible. I'm open to suggestions > >Thanks, > >Kurt >-- >SCCS, the source motel! Programs check in and never check out! > -- Ken Thompson >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CAD for Linux
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:45:10 -0400 - Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: CAD for Linux >There have been some posts over the years looking for CAD programs >for Linux. Here's a free 2D CAD program that appears, to my untrained >eye, to be capable: > >http://www.qcad.org/ Some CAD links http://www.computer.privateweb.at/tech-edv/CADlinks.htm ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Checking an HPFS/NTFS file system
Gtt the model # and go to the manufacturers website. Somewhere in the downloads you will find utilities for checking HD's. Just put it on a floppy and boot to it. Be careful, some tests are destructive, but any I've seen clearly tell you what tests are destructive. On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 00:01:12 -0400 - Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Checking an HPFS/NTFS file system >I dual boot a lindows computer and XP Pro. > >Suddenly (in fact, after running the lindows 4.0 demo cdrom), XP pro loads >and runs VERY slowly. The only other symptom is the fact the hard drive >light, instead of flickering when it starts up, stays continuously red. > >XP has the HPFS/NTFS file system. > >My suspicion is that the hard drive, which is an old cast off, is >the problem. Are there any tools in linux I could use to check out >this drive? > >Are there any easy ways just to clone the "failing" hard drive. > >Thanks, > >Joel >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Blame [OT]
On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 22:44:27 -0400 - Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Blame [OT] >On Thursday 03 July 2003 22:42 pm, Collins Richey wrote: >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 16:32:14 -0700 >> >> "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Who died and voted you list bully? >> > >> > On 07/01/03 16:21, ronnie gauthier wrote: >> > > Vern, I can call you Vern, Can't I? Good. Vern, listen. Grab a >> > > beer and I'll spell it out for you. >> > > >> > > Off topic and other such stuff is as common as notes in a third >> > > grade class. Most of us wouldnt have it any other way. >> > > >> > > On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 15:23:49 -0700 - "Vern W Heesch" >> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following >> > > Re: Re: Blame [OT] >> > > >> > >>Am I the only one that finds a whole bunch of these non-linux >> > > >> > >related emails in>my inbox annoying? >> >> This one is a keeper for my pot-kettle-black file. > >I've heard that even mentioning gentoo is enough to bring on protests >Is that true??? > The only Gentoo on my box is a slick little file manager. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Blame [OT]
On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 14:37:01 -0400 - Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Blame [OT] >On 7/2/2003 1:50 PM, someone claiming to be ronnie gauthier wrote: > > >I believe Vern has a point here. This thread started OT, had *nothing* >remotely to do with linux, and should've been started on general. That's >Tom Condon's fault. Dunno if he's sub'd to general or not, but his >origianl post shoulda gone there. As should have any of our replies. > I dont agree one bit. The only list without OT posts is a moderated list. This is a well run list and Doug does a great job at moderating and kicking OT's to the general list if needed. OT posts are what make the list has personalities instead of just handles that supply answers. OT posts let people unwind and crack jokes. Just like any social gathering, nothing stays on topic, its how the topic changes are handled that dictate the success of the gathering. And you know, or should know, the history of OT posts here which either quickly run their course or get kicked to general. That, IMHO, is what makes this list better than others of the same catagory. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Blame [OT]
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:49:37 -0700 - "Vern W Heesch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Blame [OT] >On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 00:01:53 -0500 >"ronnie gauthier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:36:23 -0700 - "Vern W Heesch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >> the following >> Re: Re: Blame [OT] >> >> >Fine, I have my beer, I read what you had to say. >> > >> >If "most of us wouldn't have it any other way", why was the General list >> >created? I still remember because I was a member of this list when General >was> >created. I could dig through my logs, as I seem to remember seeing your >name on> >this list back then too, but it's not worth the hassle. >> >> Well, if OT didnt live and we just posted and yelled well, hell, it would be >> hard to hear. Nobody has to read OT's and nobody is forced to not filter. I >> find them a good distraction and mostly funny and many times informative. > >Ah, I see, my mistake. I thought the purpose of this list was to help with >linux related questions. I totally missed that it was here for your amusement. >And no, I am not willing to spend my time loading an app and deleting the OT's >from the server BEFORE I download my email, just not worth the hassle.> It is a list for linux, as you well know, and OT's are a part of any well run list, as you also know. From your other quote below you also say you looked over the archives. Did you miss all the OT's there? That you wont spend the time to at least filter on the client side(which would take all of one minute) but will spend the time to complain about OT posts then cry the "I'm hurt and will unsub" and "see you forced me to waste bandwidth" stuff makes me think I bit on a troll. Whats the sound a lure makes when it hits...oh yea...plonk! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Blame [OT]
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:36:23 -0700 - "Vern W Heesch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Blame [OT] >Fine, I have my beer, I read what you had to say. > >If "most of us wouldn't have it any other way", why was the General list >created? I still remember because I was a member of this list when General was >created. I could dig through my logs, as I seem to remember seeing your name on >this list back then too, but it's not worth the hassle. Well, if OT didnt live and we just posted and yelled well, hell, it would be hard to hear. Nobody has to read OT's and nobody is forced to not filter. I find them a good distraction and mostly funny and many times informative. >I've seen enough of threads like this to know what will be said next and I'll >save everyone from having to say it. I need to get to class, but in the morning >i'll unsubscribe. > Well, if you have seen enough threads like this you should be able to give an answer to this? Did they all start with a post by you about what you find annoying? And if you've been on this list long enough to remember my name from a general list posting then you must have also had to suffer through numerous OT threads previous to this one. So whats your problem with this particular thread? >My apologies to anyone who considered this a waste of bandwidth. > >On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 18:21:47 -0500 >"ronnie gauthier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Vern, I can call you Vern, Can't I? Good. Vern, listen. Grab a beer and I'll >> spell it out for you. >> >> Off topic and other such stuff is as common as notes in a third grade class. >> Most of us wouldnt have it any other way. >> >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 15:23:49 -0700 - "Vern W Heesch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >> the following >> Re: Re: Blame [OT] >> >> >Am I the only one that finds a whole bunch of these non-linux related emails >in> >my inbox annoying? >> > ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Blame [OT]
Nobody, Just thought I'd share a beer, want one? On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 16:32:14 -0700 - "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Blame [OT] >Who died and voted you list bully? > >On 07/01/03 16:21, ronnie gauthier wrote: > >> Vern, I can call you Vern, Can't I? Good. Vern, listen. Grab a beer and I'll >> spell it out for you. >> >> Off topic and other such stuff is as common as notes in a third grade class. >> Most of us wouldnt have it any other way. >> >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 15:23:49 -0700 - "Vern W Heesch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >> the following >> Re: Re: Blame [OT] >> >>>Am I the only one that finds a whole bunch of these non-linux related emails >in>>my inbox annoying? >>> >>> >>>On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 14:57:56 -0700 >>>"Condon Thomas A KPWA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Tony Alfrey wrote: >>>> > I believe that this thread could easily take over the entire world, >>>> > now that we've included 'lawyers' in the subject. I think it's time >>>> > for a thread Lawyer Jokes. >>>> > Q. What do you call three lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? >>>> >>>> Half a "deep six"? >> >> When we can sink the bastards by the case we will begin to get somewhere with >> tort reform. >> >>>> In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, >>>> >>>> Tom :-}) >>>> >>>> Thomas A. Condon >>>> Barbershop Bass Singer >>>> Registered Linux User #154358 >>>> A Jester Unemployed >>>> ___ >>>> Linux-users mailing list >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >>>http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users> >>>___ >>>Linux-users mailing list >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >>>http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users >> ___ >> Linux-users mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > >-- >~ >L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com > > 4:25pm up 3 days, 50 min, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.03, 0.05 > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Blame [OT]
Vern, I can call you Vern, Can't I? Good. Vern, listen. Grab a beer and I'll spell it out for you. Off topic and other such stuff is as common as notes in a third grade class. Most of us wouldnt have it any other way. On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 15:23:49 -0700 - "Vern W Heesch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Blame [OT] >Am I the only one that finds a whole bunch of these non-linux related emails in >my inbox annoying? > > >On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 14:57:56 -0700 >"Condon Thomas A KPWA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Tony Alfrey wrote: >> > I believe that this thread could easily take over the entire world, >> > now that we've included 'lawyers' in the subject. I think it's time >> > for a thread Lawyer Jokes. >> > Q. What do you call three lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? >> >> Half a "deep six"? When we can sink the bastards by the case we will begin to get somewhere with tort reform. >> In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, >> >> Tom :-}) >> >> Thomas A. Condon >> Barbershop Bass Singer >> Registered Linux User #154358 >> A Jester Unemployed >> ___ >> Linux-users mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users> >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Blame [OT]
I think having to scroll down through 500 lines of crap to find a one line answer sucks. On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 15:43:35 -0400 - Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Blame [OT] >On 7/1/2003 3:18 PM, someone claiming to be Aaron Grewell wrote: >> Aha! Desktop wars! My desktop is the best ever... as long as you've got >> 512MB RAM! >> >> KWrite Rulez! :) >>> >>>yea, but its embedded in that virus called KDE. >> > >Top posting sux! Bottom post, or reply in line ;-) > > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: utterly OT -- the view here this morning
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:57:54 -0400 - Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: utterly OT -- the view here this morning >Quoth ronnie gauthier: >> saltlick >> http://www.midwestskiing.com/private/salt_lick.jpg > >I take it no one had venison that night? > The pic was taken from a US Forest Service tack shed. No, no violating. >> I put a couple others that might be of interest seeing as it must be picture >> sunday. >> A working mule is sure handy >> http://www.midwestskiing.com/private/working_mule.jpg > >Nice legs. On the mule. ;-) > And I'm just some peice of meat? >> when doing this >> http://www.midwestskiing.com/private/blow_down.jpg > >That looks *way* too much like work. > Someone has to clear trails. But yeah, its hard work. That particular blowdown, you only see part of it, took two of us all day, and it was a long one. And yes, the tools shown are what we had to use, we were in a wilderness area. >Well, then, as long as it's show-and-tell, here are some current >pictures of me. I met the Llama here a few weeks ago and he had >trouble recognizing me because I no longer have facial hair. You look like a guy I saw all splayed out at Alta one day after a 100 yard long yard sale. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: utterly OT -- the view here this morning
saltlick http://www.midwestskiing.com/private/salt_lick.jpg I put a couple others that might be of interest seeing as it must be picture sunday. A working mule is sure handy http://www.midwestskiing.com/private/working_mule.jpg when doing this http://www.midwestskiing.com/private/blow_down.jpg On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 14:03:33 -0400 - Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: utterly OT -- the view here this morning >Quoth ronnie gauthier: >> saltlick? > >Eew. > >Kurt >-- >Optimization hinders evolution. >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: utterly OT -- the view here this morning
Ubangis? Arent they the ones who tried selling drink coasters packaged in a jewel case? On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 03:18:59 -0700 - Tom Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: utterly OT -- the view here this morning >> >>out the front door about half an hour ago. >> >> >> >>http://www.linuxandmain.com/artwork/allieandpal.jpg >> > >> >Peaceful co-existence? >> > >> saltlick? > >Ubangis in the fuel supply? > > >In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, > >Tom ;-}) > >Tom. Condon >Barbershop Bass Singer >Registered Linux User #154358 >A Jester Unemployed > > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: utterly OT -- the view here this morning
saltlick? On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 08:25:18 -0700 - Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: utterly OT -- the view here this morning >dep wrote: > >>out the front door about half an hour ago. >> >>http://www.linuxandmain.com/artwork/allieandpal.jpg >> >> > >Peaceful co-existence? > >-- >Ken > > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: selecting a random file
($OpenMe) = @_;
opendir(RUNNING,"$OpenMe") || &return_error (31, "NewContestPath", $!);
@RunningContests = readdir RUNNING;
close(RUNNING);
shift(@RunningContests); #drops .
shift(@RunningContests); #drops ..
$n1 = int rand(@RunningContests); # random from total items in the array
print "$RunningContests[$n1]";
Here is the &return_error subroutine
sub return_error
{
local ($status, $keyword, $message) = @_;
print "Content-type: text/html", "\n\n";
print "", "\n";
print "", "\n";
print "Unexpected Error, oh-oh","\n";
print "";
print "= = = = = = = = = = = = =";
print "Status: $status ";
print "Keyword: $keyword";
print "Message: $message";
print "= = = = = = = = = = = = =";
print "Please contact: ", "$webmaster";
print "";
exit(0);
}
straight from one of my working scripts so it works. I just added the print to
show you the item of an array. HTH
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 08:58:30 -0700 - "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
the following
Re: selecting a random file
>I'm working on a blog (http://netllama.linux-sxs.org for the
>curious/bored), and I'd like to add a feature that displays a random
>image from a directory each time the page loads (or perhaps just via a
>cronjob). I'm sure that this is quite simple for someone with alot more
>perl f00 than I. anyone have any pointers?
>
>--
>~
>L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com
>
> 8:55am up 13 days, 13:37, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.10, 0.10
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Re: Network question: Cross network browsing
What the netmask on the box in question? On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:37:56 -0400 - Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Network question: Cross network browsing >I have a main network and a subnetwork, with a router for the latter. >From the main network, I can ping a linux box and a XP home edition >box on the subnet, but I cannot ping a second windows box, an XP Pro, >on the subnet. I can ping this problem box from within the same subnet. >Is this an XP Pro thing or should I look into some sort of firewall on >the XP Pro box? > >Thanks, > >Joel > > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Stumbler
OK. so has anyone heard of this? http://www.channelweb.com/components/Nl/exec/article.asp?ArticleID=42809 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Hardware] RAM question
Thats prety much true due to the fact that *any* cheap RAM is either renamed and or remanufactured, usually both. RAM remanufacturing is a *big* businesss and cheap RAM is remanufactured RAM. On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:39:53 -0400 (EDT) - Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: [Hardware] RAM question >My personal experience, and that of others who work in the PC hardware >industry indicates that Kingston & Crucial are garbage memory, as is PNY. >If you're looking for high quality memory, Corsair & Samsung are highly >recommended. > >On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Michael Hipp wrote: >> Those who specialize in PC hardware definitely recommend being brand >> selective on memory. Kingston and Crucial are good quality brands. Most >> others are commodity providers. Lots of PC problems are hardware >> problems and lots of hardware problems are memory problems. >> >> I only spec Kingston or Crucial on business-quality systems. > ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: running cronjobs more often than 1/minute?
how bout something like secd:4:respawn:/usr/sbin/crond in inittab On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:05:42 -0400 (EDT) - Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: running cronjobs more often than 1/minute? >A few months back, iremember someone wanted to run a cronjob more often >than once per minute, and they found some kind of daemon that was capable >of this. I'm searching the list archives, and Google and can't find what >it is. Anyone remember? > >-- >~~ >Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Apache question: custom 404 page
The only difference is the text display directive. Prior to 2.0 it was a single opening quote ErrorDocument 500 "Oops - We seem to have a problem 2.0 now requires a closing quote ErrorDocument 500 "Oops - We seem to have a problem" On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 21:42:19 -0400 - Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: Apache question: custom 404 page >Quoth Joel Hammer: >> Is is possible to have a custom 404 page with apache? > >Yes, with the "ErrorDocument" directive. See >http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/core.html#errordocument > >The syntax is a bit different for 1.3, but the functionality is >the same in 2.0 and 1.3. > >Kurt >-- >Kleptomaniac, n.: > A rich thief. > -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: resolution: 1x1 pixels/inch
Ther are two answers I can think of. A CCD camera does some magig when it procersses a pic. The 1x1 might signify the camera was set at "high-quality", this is used for noise reduction. A blue sky would be a blue sky instead of a pixelated mass of blue with artifacts. This is called binning. The other is that graphics use a matrix to display blocks. The block size depends on the matrix, 1x1,2x2,3x3,etc. A 1x1 has one solid color in the block meaning that your block is one pixel, 2x2 has 4- the main pixel and three shades ,3x3 has 9 the main pixel and 8 up to shades. Again, a 1x1 would signify high quality by not matching adjacent colors and toning. This is called half-tone matrix. On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 23:29:49 -0400 - Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: resolution: 1x1 pixels/inch >I get this odd resolution: >1x1 pixels/inch >with: >identify image.jpg >This image was made by jalbum. >Can somebody tell me what this resolution is supposed to mean? >Thanks, >Joel > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: nslook, dig, tracerroute
Guess they both do. bind-utils - host,dig,dnsquery,nslookup dnsutils - dig,nslookup,nsupdate On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 21:56:04 -0400 - Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: nslook, dig, tracerroute >Thanks everybody. > >Turns out that dig and nslookup are in dnsutils, not in bind-utils. > >Joel > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: nslook, dig, tracerroute
Dig is htdig www.htdig.org nslookup - bind-utils Traceroute - ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 21:39:44 -0400 - Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: nslook, dig, tracerroute >I want to load these utilities onto my lindows box. However, I can't find >any debian package which has them. > >Can someone tell me the name of the package which contains these utilities? > > >Thanks, >Joel > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: nslook, dig, tracerroute
Hmm. and I always though that little bugger was part of ht:dig, guess I should look closer at bind-utils. On Thu, 5 Jun 200319:16:21 -0700 - David Aikema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: nslook, dig, tracerroute > >On Thursday, June 5, 2003, at 07:04 PM, ronnie gauthier wrote: > >> Dig is htdig www.htdig.org >> > >Err... correct me if I'm wrong but isn't dig a tool to query dns >servers, and htdig a search engine? Or does htdig also include an >executable by the name of dig. > >BTW, can someone let me know whether or not my messages are wrapping >correctly? > >David Aikema > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: speechmike
On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 21:27:11 -0400 - Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: speechmike > >There was a post on Slashdot a while back about Linux for the disabled. >Perhaps you´ve already found this link, but, just in case: > >http://trace.wisc.edu/linux/ > Thanks for the link. I did not have that one and there are a few in there I did see before. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: (fwd) OT: up2date patent?
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 15:36:59 -0400 - Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: (fwd) OT: up2date patent? I read the patent. Look like it does pretty much cover a lot of services out there. Kurt, you been on line long enough to be familiar with FIDOnet? A seperate application(door) loaded onto a bbs and serving the early relative of email all across the US and farther? With some major servers located at universities/corps and larger BBS's as hubs and then smaller BBS's transfering to each other to pass and collect messsages from source to hubs. FIDOnet started in 1984 and BBs's around 77 so if FIDO does not fit that description I'm sure some BBS software had auto update features at least to some extent. >SCO at it again (picked up from another mailing list): > >> Hi, >> >> I've just received this URL which to me (IANAL of-course) looks like >> targetting Redhat's up2date service. >> >> >http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u >=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6529784.WKU.&OS=PN/6529784&RS=PN/6529784 > >> >> Am I wrong? it's owned by our dear "friends" - formerly Caldera, now SCO... > >Kurt >-- >An effective way to deal with predators is to taste terrible. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: speechmike
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:37:18 +0200 - "Dr. Kai Wiechen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: speechmike >Hallo, > >I have read your mail on linux users. Have I understand this correctly: you >are able to use the speechmike under linux? Can you please give me the exact >model you are using. What function keys are working? > I do not at present use it and have not tried it on my RH7.3 I did however use it under Mandrake 7.2. I had it hooked up when I did a fresh install and it was detected as a serial mouse. Everything on top worked. Of course the mike and speaker are just dependant on a sound card no matter the OS. It is a Phillips SpeechMike #6173, and has on top a trackball inbetween L/R buttons. The bottom has the trigger which was flaky and at times could cause trouble, for why I have no idea and did not mess around to find out why. I just unplugged it and plugged in my normal serial mouse. But everything on top did work so depending on what you want to use it for it might work. I actually gave up on linux as a platform for the disabled, at least for the time being. I could never get all the layers of stuff to either work at all or to act right when it did work. Ronnie Gauthier ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: X keyboards & international characters
Isn't Fn like a shift key for Fx On Sat, 31 May 2003 17:19:38 -0600 - Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: X keyboards & international characters >On Sat, 31 May 2003 16:15:09 -0400 >Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> An unnamed Administration source, Collins Richey, wrote: > >> > 1. Where do you find a description about the exact meaning of >> > "PC101","PC104", "pickakeyboard layout", etc. ? My keyboard is one >> > of the usual current generation with left and right CTL and ALT keys >> > and the three extra WinCruft keys. What is the number? >> >> Count the keys. I'm thinking that with your description, you'll have >> 104 keys, thus, you have PC104. >> > >I have 108 keys, all of which save one (Fn) return a scan code. Fn >seems to be ignored. > > >> > 2. Where do you find the meaning of cryptic keycode descriptors like >> > "AltGr-" ? >> > >> > 3. Where do you find the meaning of "Compose Key" , "Meta Key" , >> > "Mode n", etc. ? >> >> Meta is either Esc or Alt. I don't know about the Mode keys - this has >> always confused me. >> > >Still no luck with composing characters. > >-- >Collins Richey - Denver Area >gentoo stable - ext3 >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: X keyboards & international characters
On Sat, 31 May 2003 11:01:01 -0600 - Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: X keyboards & international characters >On Sat, 31 May 2003 11:38:25 -0500 >"David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sat, 31 May 2003 09:29:47 -0600 >> Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > 1. Where do you find a description about the exact meaning of >> > "PC101","PC104", "pickakeyboard layout", etc. ? >> >> pc104 will work fine >> > >Yeah, it works fine, but what does it really mean? What's the real >difference between PC101, PC104, etc.? And how can you tell which >you've got? The number of keys, count them? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Lindows.com Revelation Could Be Fatal Blow to SCO Case
On Fri, 30 May 2003 15:01:36 -0600 - Andrew Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Lindows.com Revelation Could Be Fatal Blow to SCO Case >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >Interesting perspective. > >http://www.ofb.biz/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=236 > >- -- That is interesting! This is getting to be better than daytime TV. I wonder who has the movie rights. Oh wait, I do :-) I have a movie idea. CEO leaves giant corp creates a software startup company Software startup does good gets a fanatical following Goes public aquires other corporations startup takes the world for granted startup alienates fanatics fanatics turn against startup startup turns against competitors startup turns against friends startup sues everyone in sight startup properties are given to the fanatics startup CEO commits neticide via webcam just sent this to the major networks by email. ;-) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: XFS resizing & Win2k
This should help. http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/linuxdisk/Partition/linuxdisk02.006.html On Thu, 29 May 2003 15:44:50 -0400 (EDT) - Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: XFS resizing & Win2k >The more I think about this the more sure i am that the NT derrivitives >don't have a first partition on disk requirement. In a previous life, i >had to setup a few multi-windoze boot boxen, and while win9x wouldn't boot >from anywhere but 'hda1', i know that i could get NT4 to boot just fine >from elsewhere. big question though is whether win2k has changed this >behavior. hrmm. > ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: XFS resizing & Win2k
I dont know about 2k but the other not NT versions have to be, I think win calls it "first active partition" or some such, but I think you can set that when you partition. But I recall installing windows98 on the second drive of a box once, but again, I had to set the partiton to active. FWIW On Thu, 29 May 2003 15:18:24 -0400 (EDT) - Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: XFS resizing & Win2k >On Thu, 29 May 2003, Andrew Mathews wrote: >> | ugh. oh well, i guess i'll give it a whirl. thanks. >> | >> | Anyone know if Win2k has any ridiculous need to be on hda1, or will it be >> | ok sitting on hda4? >> | >> >> No, it needs to be on C:\ > >Seriously, does win2k need to be on the first partition of the primary >master IDE channel? I don't want to go through all of this to find out >that win2k won't fly. > >-- >~~ >Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: How to send windows attachment using senmail
He is asking about perl. With perl you open a filehandle to a sendmail pipe and basically just print to the filehandle. You send your own headers and do your own encoding, and that is where people get a bit confused with perl and sendmail because you have to do what the email client would be doing, sendmail does exactly what its name says, sends mail. IIRC, mail is a little command line client thingy that uses your MTA. But I could be wrong. I know that "mail" gives me my mail and "d root" gets rid of crons messages :-). On Tue, 27 May 2003 08:28:58 -0700 (PDT) - BradDe Vries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following Re: Re: How to send windows attachment using senmail >--- Swapana Ghosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My question is as follows: >> 2. How can i send an attachment through >>the sendmail. >> >> Thanks in advance >> -Swapna > >I don't typically use sendmail as my e-mail client, >although I think it's possible. I use the "mail" >command for this type of work. Here's an example >shell script which will attach a file. > >Brad. >-- >#!/bin/sh > ># initialize >FILE=$1 >TMPFILE=/tmp/email.$$ > ># validate >if [ ! -f $FILE ]; then > echo "File not found: $FILE" > exit 1 >fi > ># prepare message >cat << EOF > $TMPFILE >This is the body of the message... > >The attachment is at the end. >EOF > ># encode and attach the file >BASENAME=`basename $FILE` >uuencode $FILE $BASENAME >> $TMPFILE > ># send the message >mail -s "Subject line here" [EMAIL PROTECTED] < >$TMPFILE > ># clean up >rm -f $TMPFILE >-- > >__ >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. >http://search.yahoo.com >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> >http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Bash scripting question
If you want a perl script to run SUID you either patch the kernal to ignore the suid bit errors, or wrap it in some sort of C code. The risk comes from allowing user input to go to eval or system or some such. Do shells have some form of -T, like perl? On Wed, 28 May 2003 09:34:48 -0400 - Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > >I don't see that many security risks, if the script wasn't a script. The >script, by definition, uses a binary interpretter. As far as the OS is >concerned, that interpretter (the first line of the script has #!/bin/bash or >#!/usr/bin/perl etc) would have to be SUID, not the script itself. It >#would be nice if SUID would work on scripts, but the mechanisms to do so >#would be more difficult than the value. If you want something SUID, you must >#use C or some other non-interpretted/VM'ed language. >___ >L ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
