Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
I am using a 2.4.5 kernel patched for win4lin. The LVM HOWTO calls for 2.4.9. kernels and earlier to be patched. I get real use out of win4lin (gotta be able to run word and excel and nlreg, and my wife uses it for AOL when her windows box goes down) and it is working perfectly, at this time. I just don't want to have to patch my already patched kernel, since it was a bear getting everything on win4lin working right (networking, printing) and I have found that it is really easy to break win4lin. Joel On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 09:43:27PM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote: > > > > Have you thought about using LVM? I'd keep a small /boot (15-20Mb) with > an initrd which basically runs vgscan then vgchange -a y. Then as you > fill a volume, you just add another chunk. > ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Switching to DHCPDC on Comcast
Still trying to get connected with dhcpcd -d eth1 to the new or old @HOME service. My cable modem is on eth1. This command, dhcpcd -d eth0, talking to my intranet dhcpd linux server, gets assigned an IP address without trouble. Here is what I see with tcpdump -i eth1 -n | grep .67. 0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xf34afb2f secs:5 [|bootp] 0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xf34afb2f secs:5 [|bootp] 0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xf34afb2f secs:5 [|bootp] 0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xf34afb2f secs:5 [|bootp] 10.91.193.1.67 > 255.255.255.255.68: xid:0xb9bc8003 Y:10.91.211.126 S:24.2.2.172 [|bootp] 0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xf34afb2f secs:5 [|bootp] 10.91.193.1.67 > 255.255.255.255.68: xid:0xee111001 Y:10.124.34.193 S:24.2.2.172 [|bootp] 0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xf34afb2f secs:5 [|bootp] 10.91.193.1.67 > 255.255.255.255.68: xid:0xee111001 Y:10.124.34.193 S:24.2.2.172 [|bootp] 0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xf34afb2f secs:5 [|bootp] So, it looks like the dhcpd server sees my request, and responds, but the negotiations break down. Adding the -DH options didn't fix the problem. Any insight appreciated. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [ltp] Re: [SLE] Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)
Ken Firestone wrote: >On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Tim Prince wrote: > > > > > > The LT WinModem driver for SuSE 7.3 (from the sfu site to which the SuSE > hints point) works fine. I'm sure there are WinModems which don't work. > >I can't find anything on the SuSE site for the Lt WinModem. could you >tell us where the sfu site is? > >As Robert Hollis kindly reminded us, http://www.heby.de/ltmodem links us to either >the sfu site or one in Germany. I'm running now through the "SuSE binary." > ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
I have nothing to say to you...except You Need Glasses since I have backed up accusations.. This is the last one I will respond too...I don't want to feed you anymore please go after some other people in this list or some other list you are on. Thanks Jerry - Original Message - From: "Net Llama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:15 PM Subject: Re: I'm impressed with ATI! > --- Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Whatever...:) > > > > I have a feeling you got nothing to do except to troll me or any other > > I doubt you know what trolling is, other than your own behavior. All > that i asked was for you to backup your rather inflamtory comments with > facts. You have yet to do so. > > > people or make fun of me..but I do believe there is a law stating free > > speech is allowed. > > No, there is no such law. There is a law stating that the US government > cannot prevent its citizens from speaking freely. This law has no > bearing on what i allow you to say or not say. > > > > > I do not feed trolls so I will say nothing... > > And that would be different from before exactly how? You've yet to say > anything of subtance. > > > > > Whatever..:) > > good riddence. > > = > > Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com > > . > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Really handy but unsolicted tips for vi (vim)
cal !!sh didn't work for me. What did work was: :r ! cal Joel On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 06:29:52PM -0800, Bill Campbell wrote: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 08:57:53PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: > >The more I learn about vi the better it becomes. > > > Another neat vi tricks session. > > To put the output of any command in your text, type the command > on a line, the press ``!!sh''. > > cal!!sh > January 2002 > Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa >1 2 3 4 5 > 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 > 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 > 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 > 27 28 29 30 31 > > To expand bash shell commands so that they're portable, try > putting echo in front of the command, then do ``!!bash''. > > mkdir /usr/local/{bin,lib,sbin} > converts to this. > mkdir /usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib /usr/local/sbin > ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
--- Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Whatever...:) > > I have a feeling you got nothing to do except to troll me or any other I doubt you know what trolling is, other than your own behavior. All that i asked was for you to backup your rather inflamtory comments with facts. You have yet to do so. > people or make fun of me..but I do believe there is a law stating free > speech is allowed. No, there is no such law. There is a law stating that the US government cannot prevent its citizens from speaking freely. This law has no bearing on what i allow you to say or not say. > > I do not feed trolls so I will say nothing... And that would be different from before exactly how? You've yet to say anything of subtance. > > Whatever..:) good riddence. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Way - FreeBSD
On Monday 07 January 2002 19:09, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > Collins Richey babbled on about: > > The most interesting observation thus far is that KDE is much peppier > > than on any Linux distro I've used. KDE/Konqueror.etc. start in about > > one third the time of the equivalent on linux. It will be interesting to > > see if there is an OpenOffice distro for BSD, since that one is really > > pokey. > > anyone know if this is cause the libc on *BSD properly preloads stuff and > doesn't do all the re-locating that glibc does? Sounds like a good guess to me. If I had started with this kind of KDE performance on linux, I probably wouldn't have been as motivated to try out XFCE. I can't wait to compare the results with XFCE and SYLPHEED and even GNOME. Standard FreeBSD comes with an ancient version of XFree, so I had to do considerable tinkering to get my S3 Savage card/monitor to work at higher resolutions. FreeBSD is way behind the curve on soundcards; this is a silent install. It does have cups, so I'll try that next. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - FreeBSD 4.4 with KDE ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
Whatever...:) I have a feeling you got nothing to do except to troll me or any other people or make fun of me..but I do believe there is a law stating free speech is allowed. I do not feed trolls so I will say nothing... Whatever..:) Thanks Jerry - Original Message - From: "Net Llama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:05 AM Subject: Re: I'm impressed with ATI! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ELX
On Monday 07 January 2002 19:11, Ken Moffat wrote: > All in all elx seems quite full featured and stable so far. I'm not sure > about the Windows knockoffs, but we'll see. Anyone have problems with the > Mozilla and Galeon versions crashing on ELX? Not really, I use galeon almost exclusively on elx. I had a few crashes on gentoo, but not even once a week. In their prime market (non-US), elx will probably have good luck pushing the Windows knockoffs. The move away from M$ products seems to be a lot stronger there. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - FreeBSD 4.4 with KDE ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:08:35 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: > I want to use this drive to boot several versions of linux. If I can > get a cheap copy of XP, I will want to put that on there, too. I will > use most of this drive as a big storage unit for: > 1. All those mp3's which my family loads off the internet (five > people can fill up a hard drive fast with mp3's). > 2. Backing up my home network. > 3. I will back up the working partitions (linux, XP) to another computer on > my home network. > Joel > Have you thought about using LVM? I'd keep a small /boot (15-20Mb) with an initrd which basically runs vgscan then vgchange -a y. Then as you fill a volume, you just add another chunk. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Really handy but unsolicted tips for vi (vim)
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 08:57:53PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: >The more I learn about vi the better it becomes. > Another neat vi tricks session. To put the output of any command in your text, type the command on a line, the press ``!!sh''. cal!!sh January 2002 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 To expand bash shell commands so that they're portable, try putting echo in front of the command, then do ``!!bash''. mkdir /usr/local/{bin,lib,sbin} converts to this. mkdir /usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib /usr/local/sbin Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ There's no trick to being a humorist when you have the whole government working for you. -- Will Rogers ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: internal modem
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:32:27 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 01:47,Anita Lewis scribed: > >> If you just want to download material to put on the Linux partition, you >> can download it in Windows and leave it in a folder on your desktop. Then >> boot into Linux and do: >> >> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt (if Windows is on /dev/hda1) >> cd /mnt/windows/desktop/ >> ls (You will see what is on your desktop) > > NOT a good idea! this is due to the fact that windows does not rcognise > the file types, .gz, .bz2 or rpm. I did this for a while at a stage where I > was unable for a short time to use linux online, I received files that when > transferred over to linux proved to be corrupted or shortened and would not > undo or if they did were missing parts. This did not happen to all files, > just about 60% and only the important ones. > Gee, they always appeared intact when I went to look at them through linux. I had problems when I put them on floppy or zip to transfer them though. Well, it has been about 3 years since I did this; so things may be different. I remember having to rename a couple of them that had two dots in them like something.tar.gz, but that was about it. In fact I have recently downloaded .gz and .rpm and .deb at work when they are big, because we have dsl there. I put them on zip and they worked fine at home. Guess I got lucky. I think the idea is worth a try for someone who has no modem and wants to get started. I agree that it is not the best solution in the long term. Anita ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
ELX
All in all elx seems quite full featured and stable so far. I'm not sure about the Windows knockoffs, but we'll see. Anyone have problems with the Mozilla and Galeon versions crashing on ELX? -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Way - FreeBSD
Collins Richey babbled on about: > The most interesting observation thus far is that KDE is much peppier than > on any Linux distro I've used. KDE/Konqueror.etc. start in about one third > the time of the equivalent on linux. It will be interesting to see if > there is an OpenOffice distro for BSD, since that one is really pokey. anyone know if this is cause the libc on *BSD properly preloads stuff and doesn't do all the re-locating that glibc does? -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf One item could not be deleted because it was missing. -- Mac System 7.0b1 error message ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
I want to use this drive to boot several versions of linux. If I can get a cheap copy of XP, I will want to put that on there, too. I will use most of this drive as a big storage unit for: 1. All those mp3's which my family loads off the internet (five people can fill up a hard drive fast with mp3's). 2. Backing up my home network. 3. I will back up the working partitions (linux, XP) to another computer on my home network. Joel > I presume you mean an 80GB dirve, which is indeed large. I've experimented > with various partitionings, but I always come back to a single partition per > distro or a separate /home partition as second choice Unless you plan to > download tons of MP3/OGG files, movie clips, iso images, etc. ... I never > manage to get more than about 5GB used (with both KDE and gnome and > OpenOffice, and a few iso images downloaded). So, I would carve the drive up > into 10-15GB chunks max (I use 6.4GB max at present). > > Tell us more about your plans for the drive - multiple distros, big > databases, music library, ??? > ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question for security gurus
Kurt Wall babbled on about: > I would start with nmap, then proceed to more aggressive probes such > as Saint or Satan. In the process, consider password guessing > programs, packet sniffers, and some of the common root kits. are Saint/Satan still worth it? Doesn't Nessus cover them? -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf printk("What? oldfid != cii->c_fid. Call 911.\n"); 2.4.3 linux/fs/coda/cnode.c ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
Gigs, megs, what the difference? Yes, I do mean gigs. Joel > Are you sure you don't mean an 80GB drive? I probably have a > couple of 70MB Maxtor MFM drives sitting around as door stops ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question for security gurus
On January 07, Douglas J Hunley enlightened our ignorance thusly: > If I was to start some side consulting as a Network Security Analyzer, what > tools/steps/methodologies would everyone recommend? Opensource would be best, > but I'm open to anything. I've made some recommendations to my firm (who > wants to go down this path) but I thought I'd get some more info from those > "in the know". > > Basically, they want to be able to approach company XYZ, and sell them a > "Security Assesment" service. What machines are exposed to Internet, what > holes they have, what services are available to whom on the Internet. Can we > DoS you, DNS poisoning, zone xfers, known holes, etc.. I would start with nmap, then proceed to more aggressive probes such as Saint or Satan. In the process, consider password guessing programs, packet sniffers, and some of the common root kits. K -- You will receive a legacy which will place you above want. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Really handy but unsolicted tips for vi (vim)
The more I learn about vi the better it becomes. Just to pass along a couple of tricks I recently learned about vi (vim) which have made a huge difference in my use of it. A big problem with vi is fixing up those ragged lines after you edit a paragraph. You can just pass the lines through a filter fmt and it fixes that right up. Just position your cursor in the paragraph you want to fix up, and have a blank line at the end and the beginning of the paragraph, (Blank lines separate paragraphs as far as I can tell.) {!}fmt [return] If you don't like the result, just press u. Man fmt has some options to read about. Just map this to the g or other unused key for fast work. If you want to format the whole document like this, not just the paragraph you are in, change the command to: 1G!Gfmt [return] Remember, have blank lines between paragraphs. Combined with the J command to join lines, this make formatting a document with vi almost fun and very fast. If you want to get rid of those extra blank lines between paragraphs after you are all done formatting, the following works well: 1G!Gsed "/^$/d" You can also run this command in ex mode like this. :1,$ ! sed "/^$/d" This make re-editing the command to fix mistakes easier. Recall the command with :[uparrow]. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fwd: [COLUG] Security presentation
in case anyone is near Columbus, OH -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [COLUG] Security presentation Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 14:46:23 -0500 From: Dave Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just thought you'all might want to know about this SECURITY presentation by author and CEO Matt Curtin this WEDNESDAY (9 Jan 2002). He'll be speaking on "System Privacy and Security (How the Bad Guys Catch You with Your Pants Down)". He is founder and President of Interhack, Inc., a company that specializes in helping build systems worthy of trust. He has recently published a book on the topic, "Developing Trust: Online Privacy and Security". There is no charge - so please forward this invitation to anyone interested! The President and CEO of the Industry and Technology Council listened to a recent presentation by Mr. Curtin and said he has a passion for his topic and does a great presentation. It's this Wednesday Jan. 9, 2002 at Chemical Abstracts Service, 2540 Olentangy River Rd., Columbus, Ohio at 7 PM. If there's a security officer at the driveway entrance he'll let you through if you tell him what you're there for. The main entrance has 2 fountains in front of it - but they'll be turned off this time of year. The security guard inside the front door can direct you to the correct room. Fortunately, there's nothing at the Schotteinstein Center that night - so traffic won't be a problem. -- Dave Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ colug mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.colug.net/mailman/listinfo/colug --- -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf panic("Aarggh: attempting to free lock with active wait queue - shoot Andy"); 2.0.38 /usr/src/linux/fs/locks.c ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Way - FreeBSD
I won't bore you with a lot of details. I just put up a FreeBSD distro "because it was there." The most interesting observation thus far is that KDE is much peppier than on any Linux distro I've used. KDE/Konqueror.etc. start in about one third the time of the equivalent on linux. It will be interesting to see if there is an OpenOffice distro for BSD, since that one is really pokey. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - FreeBSD 4.4 with KDE ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
On Monday 07 January 2002 17:51, Joel Hammer wrote: > Can someone point me to an up to date discussion on how to partition > a disk this size? I want to use this disk as my primary drive (newer, > faster, bigger) and I need some information on partitioning it. I > use LILO. > > Thanks, > Joel > > > I just bought a big drive. I was surprised to see they say I should > > install an Ultra/133 PCI adaptor card. The drive is 80 megs 7200 rpm. > I presume you mean an 80GB dirve, which is indeed large. I've experimented with various partitionings, but I always come back to a single partition per distro or a separate /home partition as second choice Unless you plan to download tons of MP3/OGG files, movie clips, iso images, etc. ... I never manage to get more than about 5GB used (with both KDE and gnome and OpenOffice, and a few iso images downloaded). So, I would carve the drive up into 10-15GB chunks max (I use 6.4GB max at present). Tell us more about your plans for the drive - multiple distros, big databases, music library, ??? My usual distro is ELX -pre1, but I put up FreeBSD for fun. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - FreeBSD 4.4 with KDE ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 07:51:25PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: >Can someone point me to an up to date discussion on how to partition >a disk this size? I want to use this disk as my primary drive (newer, >faster, bigger) and I need some information on partitioning it. I >use LILO. Are you sure you don't mean an 80GB drive? I probably have a couple of 70MB Maxtor MFM drives sitting around as door stops left over from my Tandy 6000 days. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``No matter how much I may exaggerate it, it must have a certain amount of truth...Now rumor travels fast but it don't stay put as long as truth'' Will Rogers ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
Can someone point me to an up to date discussion on how to partition a disk this size? I want to use this disk as my primary drive (newer, faster, bigger) and I need some information on partitioning it. I use LILO. Thanks, Joel > I just bought a big drive. I was surprised to see they say I should install > an Ultra/133 PCI adaptor card. The drive is 80 megs 7200 rpm. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
question for security gurus
If I was to start some side consulting as a Network Security Analyzer, what tools/steps/methodologies would everyone recommend? Opensource would be best, but I'm open to anything. I've made some recommendations to my firm (who wants to go down this path) but I thought I'd get some more info from those "in the know". Basically, they want to be able to approach company XYZ, and sell them a "Security Assesment" service. What machines are exposed to Internet, what holes they have, what services are available to whom on the Internet. Can we DoS you, DNS poisoning, zone xfers, known holes, etc.. thanks in advance! -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf printk("MASQUERADE: No route: Rusty's brain broke!\n"); 2.4.3 linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_MASQUERADE.c ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
At 07:44 AM 1/8/2002 +1000, you wrote: >On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:32,Mike Andrew scribed: > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:40, Jerry wrote: > > >ATI will either flounder this year or be taken over... > > > > I don't buy into flame wars, but I support that observation. My *ultra* > > limited experience of ATI is that they have neither of the two essentials, > > a 'wow' grafix processor, and hypermarketing. > >I also have steered clear of this too. However my experience is that a great >friend has one All in Wonder card. It will not work no matter what we do >either with Caldera, Mandrake or Suse, so I will not look at one; he loves it >otherwise. The All in Wonder card is basically a Mach64 card, what driver did you use? Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B.C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
At 01:14 PM 1/7/2002 -0700, you wrote: >[ snips ] > >On Mon, 07 Jan 2002 11:42:04 -0800 Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But if you want the latest and greatest supported straight out > > of R&D then perhaps you should settle for the M$ tax and be > > done with it. > > > >Even that won't help. M$ certainly doesn't support all the latest cards >straight out of the chute. You are right, I had to go to ATI to get the proper driver for the Rage Fury Pro so that it would support the 3D GL on wintendo_XP. Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [expert] I'm impressed with ATI!
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 00:50,Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva scribed: > Hi, > > I'm realy interested too abou AIW. I have a Studio PCTV and it > works much better under linux than under Winblows. I'm figuring out if the > same happens to AIW... > Unfortunately I have just a PII 300 and I wondering how to keep > video and sound capture in sync with such a hardware by now... > > Some friends who uses AIW 128 (just under Winblows) are very > desappointed with it. I tried but didn't convice them to use linux. > > I realy would like to hear more about AIW Radeon (graphics accel. > and video capture) from linux users. My experience is that the AIW does not work for a friend or me under linux. I too have a Pinnacle card and its fine. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:37,Shane Broomhall scribed: > Hi All, > > My name is Shane Broomhall from Brisbane Australia. Damd, there are two of us now... > I have migrated once Migrated , yep been there done that from Pommie Land, 1960. > the 2.4 Kernal has support for USB devices, would anyone know if my USB CDR > would be detected and it it would be useable as a CDR. ?? The answer essentailly is yes, but you might need to reconfigure the kernel and I've had problems here with Suse 7.3 doing that. > Does the USB Zip Drive work as well ??? yes. > I have heard that Winmodems are now useable, has anyone had experiences > with making these work with 7.3 and could you please give me hint on where > to find the instructions. ??? Rarely,. I would suggest that an external will work, but internals are VERY problematical. > I will still need to run some windows applications but I am hoping to use > an emulator, probably Vmware, how difficult is this to setup ?? The main > program is an accounting program called MYOB. Vmware is easy to setup these days, so long as you have the 3.0 version. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:32,Mike Andrew scribed: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:40, Jerry wrote: > >ATI will either flounder this year or be taken over... > > I don't buy into flame wars, but I support that observation. My *ultra* > limited experience of ATI is that they have neither of the two essentials, > a 'wow' grafix processor, and hypermarketing. I also have steered clear of this too. However my experience is that a great friend has one All in Wonder card. It will not work no matter what we do either with Caldera, Mandrake or Suse, so I will not look at one; he loves it otherwise. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
[ snips ] On Mon, 07 Jan 2002 11:42:04 -0800 Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But if you want the latest and greatest supported straight out > of R&D then perhaps you should settle for the M$ tax and be > done with it. > Even that won't help. M$ certainly doesn't support all the latest cards straight out of the chute. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - ELX-1 system k2.4.17+xfce+sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [expert] I'm impressed with ATI!
[Reply-To: trimmed] On January 07, Ron Heron enlightened our ignorance thusly: > Also, take a look at the Matrox site. They actually provide software! > The Matrox PowerDesk is an excellent utility for setting up displays and > muli-displays in linux, plus they have their own, easy to install XFree86 > server. I only use ATI and Matrox in my PC's for these reasons. My nVidia rocks and has Linux drivers provided by nVidia. K -- You are fairminded, just and loving. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
At 10:13 AM 1/7/2002 -0600, you wrote: >On Monday 07 January 2002 10:05 am, Net Llama wrote : > > > YOU: Your shit won't work! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! > > ATI: What specifically is the problem you're having? > > YOU: I don't have time to waste with you, fix your stuff now! > > ATI: We'd like to help, but we need information on the problem you're > > having. > > YOU: Fsck you, you suck, i'll never buy from you again! > > ATI: > > > > >ROFLMAO I've been using ATI and Matrox cards for quite some time now without any problems. When I had an issue with the 1024 wonder card they cheerfully replaced it. Heck even when I bought the Rage Fury Pro AGP (32meg) it was not supported under linux, but it is now. If you like the latest and the greatest then perhaps you should be prepared to "RTFM" a lot. Eventually the card will be supported or some kind soul will post a work-around that will make it work. But if you want the latest and greatest supported straight out of R&D then perhaps you should settle for the M$ tax and be done with it. JMHO Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [expert] I'm impressed with ATI!
Also, take a look at the Matrox site. They actually provide software! The Matrox PowerDesk is an excellent utility for setting up displays and muli-displays in linux, plus they have their own, easy to install XFree86 server. I only use ATI and Matrox in my PC's for these reasons. Hero --- Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone searched for "Linux" on ATI's web site? I did and found a > decent 45 hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ. In the FAQ they > answer a lot of questions honestly and fairly. Where some vendors would > simply state that their hardware has been known to work with Linux but > they don't provide support, their FAQ gives quite a bit of details about > where to find help, what does work and what is being worked on. While > they don't directly support Linux (which of course would be better), the > treat it much like they do. They give links to OpenSource sites for > support and suggest(mildly) that users contribute at XFree86.org. > > As a strong Linux user/supporter, I like to see the kind of information > that they make available. I will definitely be purchasing ATI hardware > in the near future, as I am interested in video capture and conversion. > AIW seems to be the way to go. I am interested in others' input about > this topic. > > Thought I'd let you know. > > Matt > > -- > Matthew Carpenter > CNI, CNE, CCNA, MCP, J2CP, WP > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ > > Enterprise Information Systems > *Network Consulting, Integration & Support > *Web Development and E-Business > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > = ^C quit :q exit ? help shit __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [ltp] Re: [SLE] Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3Pro (Long)
Winmodems with Lucent chipsets Requested material at http://www.heby.de/ltmodem Additional background and post-install issues at: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: internal modem
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 01:47,Anita Lewis scribed: > If you just want to download material to put on the Linux partition, you > can download it in Windows and leave it in a folder on your desktop. Then > boot into Linux and do: > > mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt (if Windows is on /dev/hda1) > cd /mnt/windows/desktop/ > ls (You will see what is on your desktop) NOT a good idea! this is due to the fact that windows does not rcognise the file types, .gz, .bz2 or rpm. I did this for a while at a stage where I was unable for a short time to use linux online, I received files that when transferred over to linux proved to be corrupted or shortened and would not undo or if they did were missing parts. This did not happen to all files, just about 60% and only the important ones. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: internal modem
What about this one: http://www.provantage.com/scripts/go.dll/e13112_14/FP_65886.HTM Michael - Original Message - From: "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:09 AM Subject: Re: internal modem > I either need to track down a good PCI internal or a 56k external...one > or the other. I'm looking for what's worked for others and so on. It's > not a pressing item, so I've not spent much time figuring out what's a > winmodem and what isn't. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [ltp] Re: [SLE] Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3Pro (Long)
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Tim Prince wrote: > The LT WinModem driver for SuSE 7.3 (from the sfu site to which the SuSE hints point) works fine. I'm sure there are WinModems which don't work. I can't find anything on the SuSE site for the Lt WinModem. could you tell us where the sfu site is? Thanks. Ken Firestone, W3CAT | For every problem there is one solution [EMAIL PROTECTED] | which is simple, neat, and wrong. [EMAIL PROTECTED]| -- H. L. Mencken ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: internal modem
--- Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Net Llama wrote: > > > > --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Was it Net Llama who wrote on Sunday 06 January 2002 22:05: > > > > --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > 2. Winmodems are CPU hungry and slow your beast down. Get the > > > external > > > > > one, > > > > > or an expensive card (At least 6 chips usually, vs ~3 for a > > > winmodem). > > > > > If it > > > > > doesn't configure as com 1 or 2, it's not a real modem. > > > > > > > > Please don't tell that to the real modem in my box that has been > > > happily > > > > using COM3 for about 9 months. > > > > > > I won't. I imagine that it can also be configured as com 1 or com > 2; > > > > Trust me, i tried every bit of setserial magic that i could find. > It > > absolutely refuses to work on COM1 or COM2. BTW, its a 56k USR PCI > modem. > > You wouldn't have a model number for this thing would you? My new > machine has only PCI slots and my old reliable 56k modem is ISA. > > I either need to track down a good PCI internal or a 56k > external...one > or the other. I'm looking for what's worked for others and so on. > It's > not a pressing item, so I've not spent much time figuring out what's a > winmodem and what isn't. I'm not in front of the box that has it, but i believe that its model# 5610. If USR has a model number like that, then its definitely that number. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: internal modem
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Ian wrote: > You wouldn't have a model number for this thing would you? My new > machine has only PCI slots and my old reliable 56k modem is ISA. > > I either need to track down a good PCI internal or a 56k external...one > or the other. I'm looking for what's worked for others and so on. It's > not a pressing item, so I've not spent much time figuring out what's a > winmodem and what isn't. > -- I've used the ActionTec Call Waiting PCI modem with little problem. the manual even covers Linux installation. Basically, you need to look at the output of lspci and then add a setserial entry with the right port and interrupt. Stew Benedict ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: what are these ports?
Dave Anselmi babbled on about: > Douglas J Hunley wrote: > > looking at a couple of examples for iptables and several have UDP port > > 6112, port 6119, and port 4000 open. why? anyone? looking in my > > /etc/services, I don't see how any of these ports would be needed. Am I > > missing something? > > netstat --ip -lnp should show the process doing the listening (the -p is > the important part for that). true that. but I don't have anything on these ports. i wanted to know why the scripts leave them open.. -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
On Monday 07 January 2002 10:05 am, Net Llama wrote : > YOU: Your shit won't work! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! > ATI: What specifically is the problem you're having? > YOU: I don't have time to waste with you, fix your stuff now! > ATI: We'd like to help, but we need information on the problem you're > having. > YOU: Fsck you, you suck, i'll never buy from you again! > ATI: > ROFLMAO been there on both sides of the phone... that's how it usually ends up. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: internal modem
Net Llama wrote: > > --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Was it Net Llama who wrote on Sunday 06 January 2002 22:05: > > > --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 2. Winmodems are CPU hungry and slow your beast down. Get the > > external > > > > one, > > > > or an expensive card (At least 6 chips usually, vs ~3 for a > > winmodem). > > > > If it > > > > doesn't configure as com 1 or 2, it's not a real modem. > > > > > > Please don't tell that to the real modem in my box that has been > > happily > > > using COM3 for about 9 months. > > > > I won't. I imagine that it can also be configured as com 1 or com 2; > > Trust me, i tried every bit of setserial magic that i could find. It > absolutely refuses to work on COM1 or COM2. BTW, its a 56k USR PCI modem. You wouldn't have a model number for this thing would you? My new machine has only PCI slots and my old reliable 56k modem is ISA. I either need to track down a good PCI internal or a 56k external...one or the other. I'm looking for what's worked for others and so on. It's not a pressing item, so I've not spent much time figuring out what's a winmodem and what isn't. -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
--- Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well I got four words for you..read before you write..about half the > questions you asked it was already stated on my previous > post..obviously you > haven't read the Net Etiquette FAQ... Yea, whatever. You're just trolling now. > The only reason why I bought those cards was that there was rebates > that was > supposed to come with the cards but I am still waiting after I bought > my > cards 1 1/2 years ago..I basically gave up waiting for my rebates. Let's try again, did you follow all the rules that the rebates required? > I am not a disgrunted ATI Customer...even tho it might sound like > it..but Not disgruntled, yet you state that you will never purchase their products again. Pick one please. > right now I have two ATI Cards in my machine one works but the ATI TV > Wonder > won't work at all...I am just saying ATI don't support their shit and Others have stated the contrary. It sounds like they won't support *you*. Considering your attitude in this thread, i can't say that i blame them. You've come out with all guns blazing for a reason that I still haven't heard. You've made numerous broad generalizations, and provided no specifics on anything. I can picture your interaction with ATI already. YOU: Your shit won't work! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! ATI: What specifically is the problem you're having? YOU: I don't have time to waste with you, fix your stuff now! ATI: We'd like to help, but we need information on the problem you're having. YOU: Fsck you, you suck, i'll never buy from you again! ATI: > to > tell you the truth...ATI will either flounder this year or be taken > over... Sure, you're obviously the expert on these things. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: internal modem
--- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Was it Net Llama who wrote on Sunday 06 January 2002 22:05: > > --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2. Winmodems are CPU hungry and slow your beast down. Get the > external > > > one, > > > or an expensive card (At least 6 chips usually, vs ~3 for a > winmodem). > > > If it > > > doesn't configure as com 1 or 2, it's not a real modem. > > > > Please don't tell that to the real modem in my box that has been > happily > > using COM3 for about 9 months. > > I won't. I imagine that it can also be configured as com 1 or com 2; Trust me, i tried every bit of setserial magic that i could find. It absolutely refuses to work on COM1 or COM2. BTW, its a 56k USR PCI modem. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [ltp] Re: [SLE] Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)
Dr. Edmund Weitz wrote: >Tim Prince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>Shane Broomhall wrote: >> >>>Hi All, >>> >>> >>>My computer is an IBM thinkpad A20m. I have replaced the hard disk >>>with one of 30M and it has 512M of ram, so I am expecting it to >>>really scream. It has an internal DVD, and a Win Modem. I have an >>>Iomega USB Zip CDR. >>> >>> >>>I have heard that Winmodems are now useable, has anyone had >>>experiences with making these work with 7.3 and could you please >>>give me hint on where to find the instructions. ??? >>> >>The LT WinModem driver for SuSE 7.3 (from the sfu site to which the >>SuSE hints point) works fine. I'm sure there are WinModems which >>don't work. >> >>I'm having difficulty with ALSA, since 7.3 Personal doesn't appear >>to have kernel headers available, so I may regret the choice of >>Personal. >> > >I have the 'Update' package, not 'Personal', so I might be wrong, but >can't you simply install the kernel source RPM? As far as I >understand, it would be a violation of the GPL if they distributed the >kernel without the source. > >Edi. > I'm new to SuSE, and their web sites have been erratic lately, but the ALSA magically corrected itself with an upgrade installation and a couple of reboots, so it might be said that SuSE Personal 7.3 supports the TP20 nearly "out of the box," except that StarOffice doesn't run as supplied. > ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fwd: Linux Security for Enterprise
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Linux Security for Enterprise Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:47:36 +0530 From: Deepak Kumar Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Recently IBM has given following two excellent white papers on Linux Security for Enterprise. I liked white papers very much and found very useful. The paper pointed out very relevant issues. The papers are available at following link: - The whiter paper by IBM on "Linux Security for Enterprise" as available at: - http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/linux/whitepapers/secu rity/les_summary.pdf The below mentioned document also seems to be a good reading, although I have not read it properly as I am not able to open it (its.pdf version gives IO error). The whiter paper by IBM on "Security Requirement for Deployment of Linux Kernel in Enterprise Systems" as available at: - http://oss.software.ibm.com/developer/opensource/linux/whitepapers/security/ les_whitepaper.pdf Regards Deepak. To unsubscribe email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject of the message. --- -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf printk("; corrupted filesystem mounted read/write - your computer will explode within 20 seconds ... but you wanted it so!\n"); 2.4.3 linux/fs/hpfs/super.c ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Re[1] I'm impressed with ATI!
At 03:59 AM 1/7/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, >I bought an ATI card "Radeon 7000 AGP 32 Mb" which works >finely with windows but it doesn't work with Mandrake 8.0 >I downloaded and installed XFree86 4.1.0 but whithout more >success. >Any help is welcome. >Maybe kernel 2.4.2 is short ? >Thanks in advance. >Patrick The ATI Radeon 7000 AGP is a relatively new kid on the block. I strongly doubt that there is a driver for it yet. It uses a totally different theater chip then other radeon based cards. I have not picked one up yet and am not sure how you would set this puppy up. Maybe it can be set up as a generic radeon. Go to xfree86.org and see what they have as far as support for this card. At any rate it should work with the "vesa" driver until a driver for the 7000 is created. Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank. B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fwd: [linux-elitists] ANNOUNCEMENT::Free Software Institute Begins - Linux 1 Class [ruben@mrbrklyn.com] [ruben@mrbrklyn.com]
for those in the area.. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [linux-elitists] ANNOUNCEMENT::Free Software Institute Begins - Linux 1 Class [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:03:54 -0500 From: Ruben Safir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Following up on last nights wildly successful first Free Software Institute Meeting, the Chair of the Institute, and myself, wish to introduce the first class of our cradle to grave Linux/Free Software program of NYLXS (see http://www.nylxs.com). Paul will followup on the complete program, but I would like to announce the first class. This is a very exciting begining. The first class is called Intoduction to Linux. The cost is $200 plus you can purchase a computer through our network of hardware vendors to participate in the class. This class goes through the installation process of Linux on standard hardware and ONLY hardware which we order through our vendor will be allowed to be used in the classroom. This prevents us from turning into installfest maddness. People who spring for the machine (for less than $500) will beable to use it in further classes as we learn to build a powerful system. The class will be 5 classes in 5 weeks from Monday Febuary 4th until March 4th. All students MUST pay in advanced. The time of the class will be 7PM - 10:30PM We might push later is required. We will also meet on line for instruction on an agreed upon weeksly time to fill out about 6 hours a weeks instruction. We will hold class at Rosenswieg and Maffia at 845 3rd Avenue in Midtown Manhattan A maximum of 20 students can be accomedated. Checks are made payable to NYLXS. Final exams of this class is the installation of a system with basic setup. __ This is the Syllabus for the first class: Introduction to Linux Installation Boot Media, Kernels Hard Drives Partitions fdisk, type 82, 83 etc swap partitions, mkswap, swapon, partition types, patition tables, /boot /home /usr /var file systems, ext2, reiser, ext3, mke2fs Intro to the Shell Kernel ->getty->login-shell /etc/passwd adduser /etc/group Introduction to VI VI Commands (and vim) Command mode i=>insert o=>open a=>append dd=>delete yy=>yank p=> paste jklim edit more Typing to the screen execute mode :w write :q quit /search :wq! at all costs 1,$s/old/new/g - global substitutions Basic Shell Commands ls cp mv ls glob* cat ps pstree top Files, ownershop, group permission Setting up X XF86Setup Knowing your hardware Network Setup Basics ipaddress host name domain name gateway dns entries adding users on different systems ifconfig modules - lsmod, modprobe, depmode This class will be followed up by the Unix 1 Class. -- __ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __ http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/hooked.mp3 - Spring is coming http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn 1-718-382-5752 New Yorker Linux Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless -- __ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __ http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/hooked.mp3 - Spring is coming http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn 1-718-382-5752 ## "Moving Forward..." Panel now playing: http://www.siliconalley.net/ ## ## The World Wide Web Artists' Consortium --- http://www.wwwac.org/ ## ## To Unsubscribe, send an e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## -- __ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __ http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.brooklynonline.com - Fo
Re: Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)
On Monday 07 January 2002 10:10 am, Schmeits, Roger wrote: > >And vmware is very easy to set up. > > Just out of curosity was that a laptop or a desktop? > Did you create a virtual OS (if I recollect correctly) or did you use a > preinstalled OS system? > How is the performance? > > > I looked at putting it on a laptop and it turned into a of work. Mabye I > will have to try again... > Thanks. That was on a desktop but the amount of work shouldn't be any different for a laptop. And I installed Win98SE under VMware under linux. I ran Win4Lin for awhile but have totally given up on it. Requires kernel patches and they are always behind on those. VMware is very clean to install and uninstall and also to work with. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/07/02 10:23 + ++ "He who hesitates is last." ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)
>And vmware is very easy to set up. Just out of curosity was that a laptop or a desktop? Did you create a virtual OS (if I recollect correctly) or did you use a preinstalled OS system? How is the performance? I looked at putting it on a laptop and it turned into a of work. Mabye I will have to try again... Thanks. -- +--- -+ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/07/02 08:39 + +--- -+ "Today is a good day to bribe a high-ranking public official." ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)
I have a winmodem in this laptop and it works -- the performance is sucky at best. My advice ist to build a firewall (www.smoothwall.org) with an dialup modem and use an ethernet card on your laptop. You might want to check out the winmodem listserv best on that one. I also looked at Vmware on a laptop and I would not recommend it. Gets too complicated and messy. On a desktop it might be ok but not a laptop. dont get me wrong it can be done but to much work for me (not enouh time in the day I guess). Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Linux Tutorials On-line or downloadable
Shane, Checkout http:\\rute.sourceforge.net which is free and downloadable - very good book espically if you all ready have a windows background. Purchase the book if you can this will not go out of date because everything is from the command line.Another one is http:\\www.informit.com -- you have to register but the have lots of free articles/books and you can also purchase if you need to. Roger > -Original Message- > From: Shane Broomhall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:03 AM > To: Suse-Linux-E; Linux-Users; Linux-Thinkpad > Subject: Linux Tutorials On-line or downloadable > > > Hi all , > > I am planning on moving from Windows 2000 to linux with in the next month. > I have basic linux skills, but I am by no means a competent user. I am > hoping that people on this list will be able to point me towards on-line > or downloadable tutorials or books that will help me increase my > knowledge. I am familar with linuxdoc.org, and i will be getting the > latest copy of the howtos before I move across. > > But does anyone have any resources for learning scripting, html, C++ > programming, or linux configuration. Some kind of scripting that I can use > to filter my mail and so on would be nice. I have the ability to purchase > hard cover books and have many, but as they go out of date so soon, I am > hoping for free resources. I would be willing to join an online library > if I can download the books. > > Thanks in advance. > > Shane Broomhall > > Brisbane Australia ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: re snapshots
On January 07, Mike Andrew enlightened our ignorance thusly: > On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:03, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > > > a compliment from Mikey. I think I'll print this! ;) > > > Okay, Okay, *everyone* makes a slipup some times. Hell, I am part human. Are you still wearing your KurtWerks (tm) Hat? Kurt -- You will be held hostage by a radical group. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: government skill form
On January 07, Mike Andrew enlightened our ignorance thusly: > On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:05, Chang wrote: > > > AIX5L is really Linux??? you aren't kidding? :) > > It is a transmigration of AIX (which is not, incidentally an exclusive IBM > 'thing') into the Linux view of the world. [...] Indeed. AIX5L is IBM's version of Monterrey, a joint project of IBM, SCO (and others) for developing a version of Unix to run on the IA64 processor from Intel. Kurt -- Avoid reality at all costs. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)
On Monday 07 January 2002 5:37 am, Shane Broomhall wrote: > I have heard that Winmodems are now useable, has anyone had experiences > with making these work with 7.3 and could you please give me hint on where > to find the instructions. ??? I have a Thinkpad A20m and you can find a driver for the modem at: www.linmodems.org. And vmware is very easy to set up. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/07/02 08:39 + ++ "Today is a good day to bribe a high-ranking public official." ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
IBM/Lotus requires using MSIE on their website
I get this when attempting to use Lotus' iNotes on line demo at http://showcase2.notes.net/inreg.nsf/regform We have detected that you are not using Microsoft Internet Explorer as your Web browser. The iNotes Web Access live demo is optimized to work with Microsoft Internet Explorer. Please reopen this demo in Microsoft Internet Explorer. Thank you! I thought IBM was a linux-friendly company... Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: internal modem
Was it Net Llama who wrote on Sunday 06 January 2002 22:05: > --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2. Winmodems are CPU hungry and slow your beast down. Get the external > > one, > > or an expensive card (At least 6 chips usually, vs ~3 for a winmodem). > > If it > > doesn't configure as com 1 or 2, it's not a real modem. > > Please don't tell that to the real modem in my box that has been happily > using COM3 for about 9 months. I won't. I imagine that it can also be configured as com 1 or com 2; it passes the test. Winmodems are unlikely to use these allocations. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Experience is like a comb, that Life gives you - AFTER all your hair has fallen out! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [ltp] Re: [SLE] Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)
Tim Prince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Shane Broomhall wrote: > > >Hi All, > > > > > >My computer is an IBM thinkpad A20m. I have replaced the hard disk > >with one of 30M and it has 512M of ram, so I am expecting it to > >really scream. It has an internal DVD, and a Win Modem. I have an > >Iomega USB Zip CDR. > > > > > >I have heard that Winmodems are now useable, has anyone had > >experiences with making these work with 7.3 and could you please > >give me hint on where to find the instructions. ??? > > > The LT WinModem driver for SuSE 7.3 (from the sfu site to which the > SuSE hints point) works fine. I'm sure there are WinModems which > don't work. > > I'm having difficulty with ALSA, since 7.3 Personal doesn't appear > to have kernel headers available, so I may regret the choice of > Personal. I have the 'Update' package, not 'Personal', so I might be wrong, but can't you simply install the kernel source RPM? As far as I understand, it would be a violation of the GPL if they distributed the kernel without the source. Edi. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [SLE] Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)
Shane Broomhall wrote: >Hi All, > > >My computer is an IBM thinkpad A20m. I have replaced the hard disk with one >of 30M and it has 512M of ram, so I am expecting it to really scream. It >has an internal DVD, and a Win Modem. I have an Iomega USB Zip CDR. > > >I have heard that Winmodems are now useable, has anyone had experiences with >making these work with 7.3 and could you please give me hint on where to >find the instructions. ??? > The LT WinModem driver for SuSE 7.3 (from the sfu site to which the SuSE hints point) works fine. I'm sure there are WinModems which don't work. I'm having difficulty with ALSA, since 7.3 Personal doesn't appear to have kernel headers available, so I may regret the choice of Personal. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: A gnutella client that works (for me)
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 11:55:19AM +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:24:17 -0500 > Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | Well, in the past two days I have tried, on my caldera 2.4 with an 2.4 > | kernal and XFree4x: > | Limewire: Failed, runtime java error. > > Odd. LimeWire has worked fine for me both on 2.4 and 3.1. I have only > used the Java that comes with the OS. Have you modified the stock > java? > > My last experiences with gtk-gnutella was that it gave up too easily > when downloading. Maybe this is better now. > I don't know enuf about Java to know if it has been modified or not. I know I never do anything to it or with it. If my apps don't work with it properly, I haven't a clue. gtk-gnutella is still working great. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: A gnutella client that works (for me)
What version of LimeWire are you using? I have not updated mine in some time. But it was after LimeWire was changed to work with the latest java. Like you, I do too little with java. Still, it could be the version of LimeWire that you are using. (I will have to check at home to see which version I use.) On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 07:39:54 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I don't know enuf about Java to know if it has been modified or not. I | know I never do anything to it or with it. If my apps don't work with | it properly, I haven't a clue. | | gtk-gnutella is still working great. | Joel | | ___ | Linux-users mailing list | Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: receiving my own mail using sendmail
I see. if I am to pump in my real IP address, I needed to use a script to generate the zone file using /etc/ppp/ip-up (my ISP used pppoe), and restarts named afterward. Does named have a runtime paramters to achieve that? or say could I point MX into an executable script? > > 10 IN MX localhost > > 20 IN MX localhost > > localhost IN A 127.0.0.1 > > #snipped > machine that you're currently on and thus you need to use your internet > resolvable ip (eg .24.222.111.123), not merely localhost, > for the address record connected with it. -- The pivotal point is the "second chance", judged by another set of criteria. In Linux We Trust -- http://linux.nf and news://news.hkpcug.org ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [expert] I'm impressed with ATI!
Hi, I'm realy interested too abou AIW. I have a Studio PCTV and it works much better under linux than under Winblows. I'm figuring out if the same happens to AIW... Unfortunately I have just a PII 300 and I wondering how to keep video and sound capture in sync with such a hardware by now... Some friends who uses AIW 128 (just under Winblows) are very desappointed with it. I tried but didn't convice them to use linux. I realy would like to hear more about AIW Radeon (graphics accel. and video capture) from linux users. On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Matthew Carpenter wrote: > Has anyone searched for "Linux" on ATI's web site? I did and found a decent 45 >hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ. In the FAQ they answer a lot of questions >honestly and fairly. Where some vendors would simply state that their hardware has >been known to work with Linux but they don't provide support, their FAQ gives quite a >bit of details about where to find help, what does work and what is being worked on. >While they don't directly support Linux (which of course would be better), the treat >it much like they do. They give links to OpenSource sites for support and >suggest(mildly) that users contribute at XFree86.org. > > As a strong Linux user/supporter, I like to see the kind of information that they >make available. I will definitely be purchasing ATI hardware in the near future, as >I am interested in video capture and conversion. AIW seems to be the way to go. I >am interested in others' input about this topic. > > Thought I'd let you know. > > Matt > > -- --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: iptables example
I did borrow lines from 4 scripts and then make them into one. I will start with eliminate redundancies first though I may not know where the redundancies are. I knew nothing about TCP protocols. Thanks. > > Is my iptables ok? I wanted to submit it indeed... :) > Lots of confusing redundancy. Rules that will never be > used. Looks like several scripts cobbled together from > all the overlap. Needs general cleaning up (get rid of > all the unused lines). -- The pivotal point is the "second chance", judged by another set of criteria. In Linux We Trust -- http://linux.nf and news://news.hkpcug.org ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 22:07, Shane Broomhall wrote: > My name is Shane Broomhall from Brisbane Australia. Australian is ok, but did you have to mention ? > IBM thinkpad A20m. They work fine under the penguin. Depending on model, you have some minor display issues to attend to. > It has an internal DVD Standard ide-cdrom under linux, with the option of using special app binaries to 'play dvd' of which I am ignorant. BUT, as a base driver, this animal is a linux, ide, cd-rom. > and a Win Modem. Winmodem->Pctel-> But, get an external and save grief. You *can* get it working, for AUD50 why bother? >I have an Iomega USB Zip Bulk-Storage-Zip->USB >USB CDR. USB -> General info (answer is yes, but I'm not 100% on the cd burn) > My last usage of Suse was on this laptop with 7.0. I have purchased 7.3 > pro. My questions are as follows.: This mail-server runs SuSE 7.3 (when Dougie ain't fiddling with it) > the 2.4 Kernal has support for USB devices, would anyone know if my USB CDR > would be detected and it it would be useable as a CDR. ?? General answer is it will work as a cd-rom, I believe it is hot pluggable and haven't tried that, I am ignorant of a usb->scsi emulator. Scsi emulation is mandatory for burning *any* cd. > Does the USB Zip Drive work as well ??? Perfectly. Both 100, and 250 megger cartridges. It is also hot pluggable. > I have heard that Winmodems are now useable, has anyone had experiences > with making these work with 7.3 and could you please give me hint on where > to find the instructions. ??? you want a hint? Buy an external and don't muck about. >Myob You *might* want to consider dual boot. Avoid Windows XP NTFS style formatting whichever way you go. Such 'disks' are currently read-only under Linux. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Linux Tutorials On-line or downloadable
Hi all , I am planning on moving from Windows 2000 to linux with in the next month. I have basic linux skills, but I am by no means a competent user. I am hoping that people on this list will be able to point me towards on-line or downloadable tutorials or books that will help me increase my knowledge. I am familar with linuxdoc.org, and i will be getting the latest copy of the howtos before I move across. But does anyone have any resources for learning scripting, html, C++ programming, or linux configuration. Some kind of scripting that I can use to filter my mail and so on would be nice. I have the ability to purchase hard cover books and have many, but as they go out of date so soon, I am hoping for free resources. I would be willing to join an online library if I can download the books. Thanks in advance. Shane Broomhall Brisbane Australia <>
Re: A gnutella client that works (for me)
On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:24:17 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Well, in the past two days I have tried, on my caldera 2.4 with an 2.4 | kernal and XFree4x: | Limewire: Failed, runtime java error. Odd. LimeWire has worked fine for me both on 2.4 and 3.1. I have only used the Java that comes with the OS. Have you modified the stock java? My last experiences with gtk-gnutella was that it gave up too easily when downloading. Maybe this is better now. Still, I like LimeWire. | hagelslag: Compiled, but never downloaded anything and seg faulted over | night. | gtella: Wouldn't configure, missing qt uic whatever, and I gave up. | gtk-gnutella: Failed to configure at first. It gave me a comprehensible | error, missing /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h. Turns out, I have moved a lot | of stuff onto other drives. Unbeknown to me, some files necessary for | configuring new software are present in the "wrong" directories but are | linked to the proper location with symbolic links. When you move things to | different hard drives, the links don't seem to travel too well. So, this may | help to explain puzzling errors when I install software. | ANYWAY, gtk-gnutella works great, very fast and gets results. Uploads and | downloads properly. And, it is simple to use. | Joel -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: re snapshots
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:03, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > a compliment from Mikey. I think I'll print this! ;) Okay, Okay, *everyone* makes a slipup some times. Hell, I am part human. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:40, Jerry wrote: >ATI will either flounder this year or be taken over... I don't buy into flame wars, but I support that observation. My *ultra* limited experience of ATI is that they have neither of the two essentials, a 'wow' grafix processor, and hypermarketing. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)
Hi All, My name is Shane Broomhall from Brisbane Australia. I have migrated once from Widows to Linux but had to change back due to work requirements. I am now looking at moving back with in a month, but I have a few concerns I hope this list can address. My computer is an IBM thinkpad A20m. I have replaced the hard disk with one of 30M and it has 512M of ram, so I am expecting it to really scream. It has an internal DVD, and a Win Modem. I have an Iomega USB Zip CDR. My last usage of Suse was on this laptop with 7.0. I have purchased 7.3 pro. My questions are as follows.: the 2.4 Kernal has support for USB devices, would anyone know if my USB CDR would be detected and it it would be useable as a CDR. ?? Does the USB Zip Drive work as well ??? I have heard that Winmodems are now useable, has anyone had experiences with making these work with 7.3 and could you please give me hint on where to find the instructions. ??? Currently I am using Norton Internet secutiry as my anti virus and firewall, I am at times detecting port scans every few minutes. Are there any available instructions on really securing Suse Linux or linux generally to prevent or at least slow down hackers and scanners ?? Are there any tools to give them a slap on the wrist if they try ? I will still need to run some windows applications but I am hoping to use an emulator, probably Vmware, how difficult is this to setup ?? The main program is an accounting program called MYOB. Thanks in advance for your help, and replies Shane <>
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:55, Net Llama wrote: > ATI may have lost ground against NVidia, but they haven't lost anything > against Voodoo, which has become the has-been of the videocard world. In some ways they did. NVidia bought out Voodoo, lock, stock, barrel. *Had* Ati chosen to buy them instead, we might be singing different tunes. Not a contradiction at you llama, an observation. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: government skill form
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:05, Chang wrote: > AIX5L is really Linux??? you aren't kidding? :) It is a transmigration of AIX (which is not, incidentally an exclusive IBM 'thing') into the Linux view of the world. It is AIX, with Linux added in. In reality, we are simply talking about moving to Linux file tree stucture names, the use of bash as a script, and the changing of existing binaries to more familiar Linux (gnu) labels like awk, grep, etc. AIX for your info was concieved as a Unix spoiler. It was intended to cripple and destroy Unix, since Unix was seen as far far far too 'universal' and non-proprietary. IBM, among others, made (past tense) their profits from selling expensive, quality software. They are no longer interested in that, preferring universal applications, backed by their 'service agreements'. The overused word enterprise solutions comes to mind. Hence, they would prefer to see the death of the unix-killer. http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: KDE configuration
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:55, Clint Tevlin wrote: > I've installed eD2.4 on my intended gateway PC but KDE > appears stretched vertically, ie icons and menubar spacings. As a very bad guess you have the wrong card configured in the Xserver. Which video card are you using? -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ELX iso's...
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:52, lesley wrote: > What is an ELX iso ??? Just to be very clear on what Collin's has said, an iso is shorthand for an image.iso. It is the contents of an entire, existing, cd. You can replicate a cd by burning it directly. It is not exclusively connected with ELX, but rather, the other way round, where that's called ELX is on cd, and an iso image, or several iso images exist of it. There's also an interesting piece of technogeek here. Many of us may never have heard of an ELX distribution but instantly associate the words together as meaning just that. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
I'm partial to nVidia. Their Linux device driver has worked nice in a FireWire video system I put together. I would like to know if the newer ATI cards that have firewire interfaces are fully supported on Linux. I have seen some references to firewire support, but in other places they say that the ATI cards use a firewire chip that is not supported. I guess I will check the ATI FAQ. So, thank's for the pointer. I did not check earlier because I expected what you expected. On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:06:43 -0500 Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Has anyone searched for "Linux" on ATI's web site? I did and found a decent 45 |hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ. In the FAQ they answer a lot of questions |honestly and fairly. Where some vendors would simply state that their hardware has |been known to work with Linux but they don't provide support, their FAQ gives quite a |bit of details about where to find help, what does work and what is being worked on. |While they don't directly support Linux (which of course would be better), the treat |it much like they do. They give links to OpenSource sites for support and |suggest(mildly) that users contribute at XFree86.org. | | As a strong Linux user/supporter, I like to see the kind of information that they |make available. I will definitely be purchasing ATI hardware in the near future, as |I am interested in video capture and conversion. AIW seems to be the way to go. I |am interested in others' input about this topic. | | Thought I'd let you know. -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re[1] I'm impressed with ATI!
Hi, I bought an ATI card "Radeon 7000 AGP 32 Mb" which works finely with windows but it doesn't work with Mandrake 8.0 I downloaded and installed XFree86 4.1.0 but whithout more success. Any help is welcome. Maybe kernel 2.4.2 is short ? Thanks in advance. Patrick __ E-mail gratuit - Multimania - http://www.multimania.fr