Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive

2002-01-07 Thread Joel Hammer

I am using a 2.4.5 kernel patched for win4lin. The LVM HOWTO calls for
2.4.9. kernels and earlier to be patched.  I get real use out of win4lin
(gotta be able to run word and excel and nlreg, and my wife uses it
for AOL when her windows box goes down) and it is working perfectly, at
this time. I just don't want to have to patch my already patched kernel,
since it was a bear getting everything on win4lin working right (networking,
printing) and I have found that it is really easy to break win4lin.

Joel

On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 09:43:27PM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote:
> > 
> 
> Have you thought about using LVM?  I'd keep a small /boot (15-20Mb) with
> an initrd which basically runs vgscan then vgchange -a y.  Then as you
> fill a volume, you just add another chunk.
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Re: Switching to DHCPDC on Comcast

2002-01-07 Thread Joel Hammer

Still trying to get connected with dhcpcd -d eth1 to the new or old
@HOME service. My cable modem is on eth1.

This command, dhcpcd -d eth0, talking to my intranet dhcpd linux server,
gets assigned an IP address without trouble.

Here is what I see with tcpdump -i eth1 -n  | grep .67.

0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xf34afb2f secs:5 [|bootp]
0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xf34afb2f secs:5 [|bootp]
0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xf34afb2f secs:5 [|bootp]
0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xf34afb2f secs:5 [|bootp]
10.91.193.1.67 > 255.255.255.255.68: xid:0xb9bc8003 Y:10.91.211.126 S:24.2.2.172 
[|bootp]
0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xf34afb2f secs:5 [|bootp]
10.91.193.1.67 > 255.255.255.255.68: xid:0xee111001 Y:10.124.34.193 S:24.2.2.172 
[|bootp]
0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xf34afb2f secs:5 [|bootp]
10.91.193.1.67 > 255.255.255.255.68: xid:0xee111001 Y:10.124.34.193 S:24.2.2.172 
[|bootp]
0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xf34afb2f secs:5 [|bootp]

So, it looks like the dhcpd server sees my request, and responds, but
the negotiations break down.

Adding the -DH options didn't fix the problem.

Any insight appreciated.

Joel





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Re: [ltp] Re: [SLE] Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)

2002-01-07 Thread Tim Prince



Ken Firestone wrote:

>On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Tim Prince wrote:
>
>
>
>   >
>   The LT WinModem driver for SuSE 7.3 (from the sfu site to which the SuSE
>   hints point) works fine.  I'm sure there are WinModems which don't work.
>
>I can't find anything on the SuSE site for the Lt WinModem. could you
>tell us where the sfu site is?
>
>As Robert Hollis kindly reminded us, http://www.heby.de/ltmodem links us to either 
>the sfu site or one in Germany. I'm running now through the "SuSE binary."  
>


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Re: I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Jerry

I have nothing to say to you...except
You Need Glasses since I have backed up accusations..

This is the last one I will respond too...I don't want to feed you anymore
please go after some other people in this list or some other list you are
on.

Thanks
Jerry

- Original Message -
From: "Net Llama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: I'm impressed with ATI!


> --- Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Whatever...:)
> >
> > I have a feeling you got nothing to do except to troll me or any other
>
> I doubt you know what trolling is, other than your own behavior.  All
> that i asked was for you to backup your rather inflamtory comments with
> facts.  You have yet to do so.
>
> > people or make fun of me..but I do believe there is a law stating free
> > speech is allowed.
>
> No, there is no such law.  There is a law stating that the US government
> cannot prevent its citizens from speaking freely.  This law has no
> bearing on what i allow you to say or not say.
>
> >
> > I do not feed trolls so I will say nothing...
>
> And that would be different from before exactly how?  You've yet to say
> anything of subtance.
>
> >
> > Whatever..:)
>
> good riddence.
>
> =
> 
> Lonni J. Friedman  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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Re: Really handy but unsolicted tips for vi (vim)

2002-01-07 Thread Joel Hammer

cal !!sh didn't work for me.
What did work was:
:r ! cal 
Joel



On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 06:29:52PM -0800, Bill Campbell wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 08:57:53PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
> >The more I learn about vi the better it becomes.
> >
> Another neat vi tricks session.
> 
> To put the output of any command in your text, type the command
> on a line, the press ``!!sh''.
> 
> cal!!sh
> January 2002
> Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 
>1  2  3  4  5
>  6  7  8  9 10 11 12
> 13 14 15 16 17 18 19
> 20 21 22 23 24 25 26
> 27 28 29 30 31
> 
> To expand bash shell commands so that they're portable, try
> putting echo in front of the command, then do ``!!bash''.
> 
> mkdir /usr/local/{bin,lib,sbin}
>   converts to this.
> mkdir /usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib /usr/local/sbin
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Re: I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Net Llama

--- Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Whatever...:)
> 
> I have a feeling you got nothing to do except to troll me or any other

I doubt you know what trolling is, other than your own behavior.  All
that i asked was for you to backup your rather inflamtory comments with
facts.  You have yet to do so.  

> people or make fun of me..but I do believe there is a law stating free
> speech is allowed.

No, there is no such law.  There is a law stating that the US government
cannot prevent its citizens from speaking freely.  This law has no
bearing on what i allow you to say or not say.

> 
> I do not feed trolls so I will say nothing...

And that would be different from before exactly how?  You've yet to say
anything of subtance.

> 
> Whatever..:)

good riddence.

=

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Re: Way - FreeBSD

2002-01-07 Thread Collins Richey

On Monday 07 January 2002 19:09, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> Collins Richey babbled on about:
> > The most interesting observation thus far is that KDE is much peppier
> > than on any Linux distro I've used.  KDE/Konqueror.etc. start in about
> > one third the time of the equivalent on linux.  It will be interesting to
> > see if there is an OpenOffice distro for BSD, since that one is really
> > pokey.
>
> anyone know if this is cause the libc on *BSD properly preloads stuff and
> doesn't do all the re-locating that glibc does?

Sounds like a good guess to me.  If I had started with this kind of KDE 
performance on linux, I probably wouldn't have been as motivated to try out 
XFCE.  I can't wait to compare the results with XFCE and SYLPHEED and even 
GNOME.

Standard FreeBSD comes with an ancient version of XFree, so I had to do 
considerable tinkering to get my S3 Savage card/monitor to work at higher 
resolutions.

FreeBSD is way behind the curve on soundcards; this is a silent install.

It does have cups, so I'll try that next.

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Re: I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Jerry

Whatever...:)

I have a feeling you got nothing to do except to troll me or any other
people or make fun of me..but I do believe there is a law stating free
speech is allowed.

I do not feed trolls so I will say nothing...

Whatever..:)

Thanks
Jerry

- Original Message -
From: "Net Llama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: I'm impressed with ATI!


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Re: ELX

2002-01-07 Thread Collins Richey

On Monday 07 January 2002 19:11, Ken Moffat wrote:
> All in all elx seems quite full featured and stable so far. I'm not sure
> about the Windows knockoffs, but we'll see. Anyone have problems with the
> Mozilla and Galeon versions crashing on ELX?

Not really, I use galeon almost exclusively on elx.  I had a few crashes on 
gentoo, but not even once a week.

In their prime market (non-US), elx will probably have good luck pushing the 
Windows knockoffs.  The move away from M$ products seems to be a lot stronger 
there.

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Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive

2002-01-07 Thread David A. Bandel

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:08:35 -0500
Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream:

> I want to use this drive to boot several versions of linux. If I can
> get a cheap copy of XP, I will want to put that on there, too.  I will
> use most of this drive as a big storage unit for:
>  1. All those mp3's which my family loads off the internet (five
>  people can fill up a hard drive fast with mp3's).
>  2. Backing up my home network.
>  3. I will back up the working partitions (linux, XP) to another
computer on
> my home network.  
> Joel
> 

Have you thought about using LVM?  I'd keep a small /boot (15-20Mb) with
an initrd which basically runs vgscan then vgchange -a y.  Then as you
fill a volume, you just add another chunk.

Ciao,

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Re: Really handy but unsolicted tips for vi (vim)

2002-01-07 Thread Bill Campbell

On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 08:57:53PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
>The more I learn about vi the better it becomes.
>
Another neat vi tricks session.

To put the output of any command in your text, type the command
on a line, the press ``!!sh''.

cal!!sh
January 2002
Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 
   1  2  3  4  5
 6  7  8  9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31

To expand bash shell commands so that they're portable, try
putting echo in front of the command, then do ``!!bash''.

mkdir /usr/local/{bin,lib,sbin}
converts to this.
mkdir /usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib /usr/local/sbin

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Re: internal modem

2002-01-07 Thread Anita Lewis

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:32:27 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 01:47,Anita Lewis scribed:
> 
>> If you just want to download material to put on the Linux partition, you
>> can download it in Windows and leave it in a folder on your desktop.  Then
>> boot into Linux and do:
>>
>> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1  /mnt (if Windows is on /dev/hda1)
>> cd /mnt/windows/desktop/
>> ls (You will see what is on your desktop)
> 
> NOT a good idea! this is due to the fact that windows does not rcognise 
> the file types, .gz, .bz2 or rpm. I did this for a while at a stage where I 
> was unable for a short time to use linux online, I received files that when 
> transferred over to linux proved to be corrupted or shortened and would not 
> undo or if they did were missing parts. This did not happen to all files, 
> just about 60% and only the important ones.
> 

Gee, they always appeared intact when I went to look at them through linux. 
I had problems when I put them on floppy or zip to transfer them though. 
Well, it has been about 3 years since I did this; so things may be
different.  I remember having to rename a couple of them that had two dots
in them like something.tar.gz, but that was about it.  In fact I have
recently downloaded .gz and .rpm and .deb at work when they are big, because
we have dsl there.  I put them on zip and they worked fine at home.  Guess I
got lucky.  

I think the idea is worth a try for someone who has no modem and wants to
get started.  I agree that it is not the best solution in the long term.

Anita
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ELX

2002-01-07 Thread Ken Moffat

All in all elx seems quite full featured and stable so far. I'm not sure
about the Windows knockoffs, but we'll see. Anyone have problems with the
Mozilla and Galeon versions crashing on ELX?

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Re: Way - FreeBSD

2002-01-07 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Collins Richey babbled on about:
> The most interesting observation thus far is that KDE is much peppier than
> on any Linux distro I've used.  KDE/Konqueror.etc. start in about one third
> the time of the equivalent on linux.  It will be interesting to see if
> there is an OpenOffice distro for BSD, since that one is really pokey.

anyone know if this is cause the libc on *BSD properly preloads stuff and 
doesn't do all the re-locating that glibc does?
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Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive

2002-01-07 Thread Joel Hammer

I want to use this drive to boot several versions of linux. If I can
get a cheap copy of XP, I will want to put that on there, too.  I will
use most of this drive as a big storage unit for:
 1. All those mp3's which my family loads off the internet (five
 people can fill up a hard drive fast with mp3's).
 2. Backing up my home network.
 3. I will back up the working partitions (linux, XP) to another computer on
my home network.  
Joel

> I presume you mean an 80GB dirve, which is indeed large.  I've experimented 
> with various partitionings, but I always come back to a single partition per 
> distro or a separate /home partition as second choice  Unless you plan to 
> download tons of MP3/OGG files, movie clips, iso images, etc. ... I never 
> manage to get more than about 5GB used (with both KDE and gnome and 
> OpenOffice, and a few iso images downloaded).  So, I would carve the drive up 
> into 10-15GB chunks max (I use 6.4GB max at present).
> 
> Tell us more about your plans for the drive - multiple distros, big 
> databases, music library, ???
> 
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Re: question for security gurus

2002-01-07 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Kurt Wall babbled on about:
> I would start with nmap, then proceed to more aggressive probes such
> as Saint or Satan. In the process, consider password guessing
> programs, packet sniffers, and some of the common root kits.

are Saint/Satan still worth it? Doesn't Nessus cover them?
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Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive

2002-01-07 Thread Joel Hammer

Gigs, megs, what the difference?  Yes, I do mean gigs.
Joel
> Are you sure you don't mean an 80GB drive?  I probably have a
> couple of 70MB Maxtor MFM drives sitting around as door stops
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Re: question for security gurus

2002-01-07 Thread Kurt Wall

On January 07, Douglas J Hunley enlightened our ignorance thusly:
> If I was to start some side consulting as a Network Security Analyzer, what 
> tools/steps/methodologies would everyone recommend? Opensource would be best, 
> but I'm open to anything. I've made some recommendations to my firm (who 
> wants to go down this path) but I thought I'd get some more info from those 
> "in the know".
> 
> Basically, they want to be able to approach company XYZ, and sell them a 
> "Security Assesment" service. What machines are exposed to Internet, what 
> holes they have, what services are available to whom on the Internet. Can we 
> DoS you, DNS poisoning, zone xfers, known holes, etc..

I would start with nmap, then proceed to more aggressive probes such
as Saint or Satan. In the process, consider password guessing
programs, packet sniffers, and some of the common root kits.

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Really handy but unsolicted tips for vi (vim)

2002-01-07 Thread Joel Hammer

The more I learn about vi the better it becomes.

Just to pass along a couple of tricks I recently learned about vi (vim)
which have made a huge difference in my use of it.

A big problem with vi is fixing up those ragged lines after you edit a
paragraph. You can just pass the lines through a filter fmt and it fixes
that right up. Just position your cursor in the paragraph you want to fix
up, and have a blank line at the end and the beginning of the paragraph,
(Blank lines separate paragraphs as far as I can tell.)

 {!}fmt [return]

If you don't like the result, just press u.  Man fmt has some options
to read about.  Just map this to the g or other unused key for fast
work. If you want to format the whole document like this, not just the
paragraph you are in, change the command to:

 1G!Gfmt [return]

Remember, have blank lines between paragraphs.  Combined with the J
command to join lines, this make formatting a document with vi almost fun
and very fast. If you want to get rid of those extra blank lines between
paragraphs after you are all done formatting, the following works well:

 1G!Gsed "/^$/d"

You can also run this command in ex mode like this.

 :1,$ ! sed "/^$/d"

This make re-editing the command to fix mistakes easier. Recall the
command with :[uparrow].

Joel
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Fwd: [COLUG] Security presentation

2002-01-07 Thread Douglas J Hunley

in case anyone is near Columbus, OH

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: [COLUG] Security presentation
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 14:46:23 -0500
From: Dave Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Just thought you'all might want to know about this SECURITY presentation
by author and CEO Matt Curtin this WEDNESDAY (9 Jan 2002).

He'll be speaking on "System Privacy and Security (How the Bad Guys
Catch You with Your Pants Down)".  He is founder and President of
Interhack, Inc., a company that specializes in helping build systems
worthy of trust.  He has recently published a book on the topic,
"Developing Trust: Online Privacy and Security".

There is no charge - so please forward this invitation to anyone
interested!

The President and CEO of the Industry and Technology Council listened to
a recent presentation by Mr. Curtin and said he has a passion for his
topic and does a great presentation.

It's this Wednesday Jan. 9, 2002 at Chemical Abstracts Service, 2540
Olentangy River Rd., Columbus, Ohio at 7 PM.  If there's a security
officer at the driveway entrance he'll let you through if you tell him
what you're there for.  The main entrance has 2 fountains in front of it
- but they'll be turned off this time of year.  The security guard
inside the front door can direct you to the correct room.  Fortunately,
there's nothing at the Schotteinstein Center that night - so traffic
won't be a problem.
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Way - FreeBSD

2002-01-07 Thread Collins Richey

I won't bore you with a lot of details.  I just put up a FreeBSD distro 
"because it was there."

The most interesting observation thus far is that KDE is much peppier than on 
any Linux distro I've used.  KDE/Konqueror.etc. start in about one third the 
time of the equivalent on linux.  It will be interesting to see if there is 
an OpenOffice distro for BSD, since that one is really pokey.

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Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive

2002-01-07 Thread Collins Richey

On Monday 07 January 2002 17:51, Joel Hammer wrote:
> Can someone point me to an up to date discussion on how to partition
> a disk this size? I want to use this disk as my primary drive (newer,
> faster, bigger) and I need some information on partitioning it. I
> use LILO.
>
> Thanks,
> Joel
>
> > I just bought a big drive. I was surprised to see they say I should
> > install an Ultra/133 PCI adaptor card. The drive is 80 megs 7200 rpm.
>

I presume you mean an 80GB dirve, which is indeed large.  I've experimented 
with various partitionings, but I always come back to a single partition per 
distro or a separate /home partition as second choice  Unless you plan to 
download tons of MP3/OGG files, movie clips, iso images, etc. ... I never 
manage to get more than about 5GB used (with both KDE and gnome and 
OpenOffice, and a few iso images downloaded).  So, I would carve the drive up 
into 10-15GB chunks max (I use 6.4GB max at present).

Tell us more about your plans for the drive - multiple distros, big 
databases, music library, ???

My usual distro is ELX -pre1, but I put up FreeBSD for fun.

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Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive

2002-01-07 Thread Bill Campbell

On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 07:51:25PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
>Can someone point me to an up to date discussion on how to partition
>a disk this size? I want to use this disk as my primary drive (newer,
>faster, bigger) and I need some information on partitioning it. I
>use LILO.

Are you sure you don't mean an 80GB drive?  I probably have a
couple of 70MB Maxtor MFM drives sitting around as door stops
left over from my Tandy 6000 days.

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Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive

2002-01-07 Thread Joel Hammer

Can someone point me to an up to date discussion on how to partition
a disk this size? I want to use this disk as my primary drive (newer,
faster, bigger) and I need some information on partitioning it. I
use LILO.

Thanks,
Joel

> I just bought a big drive. I was surprised to see they say I should install
> an Ultra/133 PCI adaptor card. The drive is 80 megs 7200 rpm.
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question for security gurus

2002-01-07 Thread Douglas J Hunley

If I was to start some side consulting as a Network Security Analyzer, what 
tools/steps/methodologies would everyone recommend? Opensource would be best, 
but I'm open to anything. I've made some recommendations to my firm (who 
wants to go down this path) but I thought I'd get some more info from those 
"in the know".

Basically, they want to be able to approach company XYZ, and sell them a 
"Security Assesment" service. What machines are exposed to Internet, what 
holes they have, what services are available to whom on the Internet. Can we 
DoS you, DNS poisoning, zone xfers, known holes, etc..

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Re: I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Ted Ozolins

At 07:44 AM 1/8/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:32,Mike Andrew scribed:
> > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:40, Jerry wrote:
> > >ATI will either flounder this year or be taken over...
> >
> > I don't buy into flame wars, but I support that observation. My *ultra*
> > limited experience of ATI is that they have neither of the two essentials,
> > a 'wow' grafix processor, and hypermarketing.
>
>I also have steered clear of this too. However my experience is that a great
>friend has one All in Wonder card. It will not work no matter what we do
>either with Caldera, Mandrake or Suse, so I will not look at one; he loves it
>otherwise.


The All in Wonder card is basically a Mach64 card, what driver did you use?




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Re: I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Ted Ozolins

At 01:14 PM 1/7/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>[ snips ]
>
>On Mon, 07 Jan 2002 11:42:04 -0800 Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > But if you want the latest and greatest supported straight out
> > of R&D then perhaps you should settle for the M$ tax and be
> > done with it.
> >
>
>Even that won't help.  M$ certainly doesn't support all the latest cards
>straight out of the chute.
You are right, I had to go to ATI to get the proper driver for the Rage 
Fury Pro so that it would support the 3D GL on wintendo_XP.

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Re: [expert] I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Keith Antoine

On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 00:50,Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva scribed:
> Hi,
>
>   I'm realy interested too abou AIW.  I have a Studio PCTV and it
> works much better under linux than under Winblows.  I'm figuring out if the
> same happens to AIW...
>   Unfortunately I have just a PII 300 and I wondering how to keep
> video and sound capture in sync with such a hardware by now...
>
>   Some friends who uses AIW 128 (just under Winblows) are very
> desappointed with it.  I tried but didn't convice them to use linux.
>
>   I realy would like to hear more about AIW Radeon (graphics accel.
> and video capture) from linux users.

My experience is that the AIW does not work for a friend or me under linux. I 
too have a Pinnacle card and its fine.

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Re: Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)

2002-01-07 Thread Keith Antoine

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:37,Shane Broomhall scribed:
> Hi All,
>
> My name is Shane Broomhall from Brisbane Australia.

Damd, there are two of us now...

> I have migrated once

Migrated , yep been there done that from Pommie Land, 1960.


> the 2.4 Kernal has support for USB devices, would anyone know if my USB CDR
> would be detected and it it would be useable as a CDR. ??

The answer essentailly is yes, but you might need to reconfigure the kernel 
and I've had problems here with Suse 7.3 doing that.

> Does the USB Zip Drive work as well ???

yes.

> I have heard that Winmodems are now useable, has anyone had experiences
> with making these work with 7.3 and could you please give me hint on where
> to find the instructions. ???

Rarely,. I would suggest that an external will work, but internals 
are VERY problematical.

> I will still need to run some windows applications but I am hoping to use
> an emulator, probably Vmware, how difficult is this to setup ??  The main
> program is an accounting program called MYOB.

Vmware is easy to setup these days, so long as you have the 3.0 version.



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Re: I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Keith Antoine

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:32,Mike Andrew scribed:
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:40, Jerry wrote:
> >ATI will either flounder this year or be taken over...
>
> I don't buy into flame wars, but I support that observation. My *ultra*
> limited experience of ATI is that they have neither of the two essentials,
> a 'wow' grafix processor, and hypermarketing.

I also have steered clear of this too. However my experience is that a great 
friend has one All in Wonder card. It will not work no matter what we do 
either with Caldera, Mandrake or Suse, so I will not look at one; he loves it 
otherwise.

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Re: I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Collins Richey

[ snips ]

On Mon, 07 Jan 2002 11:42:04 -0800 Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But if you want the latest and greatest supported straight out 
> of R&D then perhaps you should settle for the M$ tax and be 
> done with it.
> 

Even that won't help.  M$ certainly doesn't support all the latest cards
straight out of the chute.

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Re: [expert] I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Kurt Wall

[Reply-To: trimmed]

On January 07, Ron Heron enlightened our ignorance thusly:
> Also, take a look at the Matrox site.  They actually provide software! 
> The Matrox PowerDesk is an excellent utility for setting up displays and
> muli-displays in linux, plus they have their own, easy to install XFree86
> server.  I only use ATI and Matrox in my PC's for these reasons.

My nVidia rocks and has Linux drivers provided by nVidia.

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Re: I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Ted Ozolins

At 10:13 AM 1/7/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>On Monday 07 January 2002 10:05 am, Net Llama wrote :
>
> > YOU:  Your shit won't work! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it!
> > ATI:  What specifically is the problem you're having?
> > YOU:  I don't have time to waste with you, fix your stuff now!
> > ATI:  We'd like to help, but we need information on the problem you're
> > having.
> > YOU:  Fsck you, you suck, i'll never buy from you again!
> > ATI:  
> >
>
>
>ROFLMAO

I've been using ATI and Matrox cards for quite some time now without any 
problems. When I had an issue with the 1024 wonder card they cheerfully 
replaced it. Heck even when I bought the Rage Fury Pro AGP (32meg) it was 
not supported under linux, but it is now. If you like the latest and the 
greatest then perhaps you should be prepared to "RTFM" a lot. 
Eventually  the card will be supported or some kind soul will post a 
work-around that will make it work. But if you want the latest and greatest 
supported straight out of R&D then perhaps you should settle for the M$ tax 
and be done with it.

JMHO

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Re: [expert] I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Ron Heron

Also, take a look at the Matrox site.  They actually provide software! 
The Matrox PowerDesk is an excellent utility for setting up displays and
muli-displays in linux, plus they have their own, easy to install XFree86
server.  I only use ATI and Matrox in my PC's for these reasons.

Hero
--- Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone searched for "Linux" on ATI's web site?  I did and found a
> decent 45 hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ.  In the FAQ they
> answer a lot of questions honestly and fairly.  Where some vendors would
> simply state that their hardware has been known to work with Linux but
> they don't provide support, their FAQ gives quite a bit of details about
> where to find help, what does work and what is being worked on.  While
> they don't directly support Linux (which of course would be better), the
> treat it much like they do.  They give links to OpenSource sites for
> support and suggest(mildly) that users contribute at XFree86.org.
> 
> As a strong Linux user/supporter, I like to see the kind of information
> that they make available.  I will definitely be purchasing ATI hardware
> in the near future, as I am interested in video capture and conversion. 
> AIW seems to be the way to go.  I am interested in others' input about
> this topic.
> 
> Thought I'd let you know.
> 
> Matt
> 
> -- 
> Matthew Carpenter 
> CNI, CNE, CCNA, MCP, J2CP, WP
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.e-i-s.cc/
> 
> Enterprise Information Systems
> *Network Consulting, Integration & Support
> *Web Development and E-Business
> 
> > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
> Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
> 


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Re: [ltp] Re: [SLE] Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3Pro (Long)

2002-01-07 Thread Jacques Goldberg

 Winmodems with Lucent chipsets

 Requested material at http://www.heby.de/ltmodem
 Additional background and post-install issues at:
http://linmodems.technion.ac.il

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Re: internal modem

2002-01-07 Thread Keith Antoine

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 01:47,Anita Lewis scribed:

> If you just want to download material to put on the Linux partition, you
> can download it in Windows and leave it in a folder on your desktop.  Then
> boot into Linux and do:
>
> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1  /mnt (if Windows is on /dev/hda1)
> cd /mnt/windows/desktop/
> ls (You will see what is on your desktop)

NOT a good idea! this is due to the fact that windows does not rcognise 
the file types, .gz, .bz2 or rpm. I did this for a while at a stage where I 
was unable for a short time to use linux online, I received files that when 
transferred over to linux proved to be corrupted or shortened and would not 
undo or if they did were missing parts. This did not happen to all files, 
just about 60% and only the important ones.

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Re: internal modem

2002-01-07 Thread Michael Hipp

What about this one:
http://www.provantage.com/scripts/go.dll/e13112_14/FP_65886.HTM

Michael

- Original Message -
From: "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: internal modem


> I either need to track down a good PCI internal or a 56k external...one
> or the other.  I'm looking for what's worked for others and so on. It's
> not a pressing item, so I've not spent much time figuring out what's a
> winmodem and what isn't.



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Re: [ltp] Re: [SLE] Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3Pro (Long)

2002-01-07 Thread Ken Firestone

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Tim Prince wrote:



   >
   The LT WinModem driver for SuSE 7.3 (from the sfu site to which the SuSE
   hints point) works fine.  I'm sure there are WinModems which don't work.

I can't find anything on the SuSE site for the Lt WinModem. could you
tell us where the sfu site is?

Thanks.


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Re: internal modem

2002-01-07 Thread Net Llama

--- Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Net Llama wrote:
> > 
> > --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Was it Net Llama who wrote on Sunday 06 January 2002 22:05:
> > > > --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > 2. Winmodems are CPU hungry and slow your beast down. Get the
> > > external
> > > > > one,
> > > > > or an expensive card (At least 6 chips usually, vs ~3 for a
> > > winmodem).
> > > > > If it
> > > > > doesn't configure as com 1 or 2, it's not a real modem.
> > > >
> > > > Please don't tell that to the real modem in my box that has been
> > > happily
> > > > using COM3 for about 9 months.
> > >
> > > I won't. I imagine that it can also be configured as com 1 or com
> 2;
> > 
> > Trust me, i tried every bit of setserial magic that i could find. 
> It
> > absolutely refuses to work on COM1 or COM2.  BTW, its a 56k USR PCI
> modem.
> 
> You wouldn't have a model number for this thing would you?  My new
> machine has only PCI slots and my old reliable 56k modem is ISA.
> 
> I either need to track down a good PCI internal or a 56k
> external...one
> or the other.  I'm looking for what's worked for others and so on.
> It's
> not a pressing item, so I've not spent much time figuring out what's a
> winmodem and what isn't.

I'm not in front of the box that has it, but i believe that its model#
5610.  If USR has a model number like that, then its definitely that number.

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Re: internal modem

2002-01-07 Thread Stew Benedict


On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Ian wrote:

> You wouldn't have a model number for this thing would you?  My new
> machine has only PCI slots and my old reliable 56k modem is ISA.
> 
> I either need to track down a good PCI internal or a 56k external...one
> or the other.  I'm looking for what's worked for others and so on. It's
> not a pressing item, so I've not spent much time figuring out what's a
> winmodem and what isn't.
> -- 

I've used the ActionTec Call Waiting PCI modem with little problem.  the
manual even covers Linux installation.  Basically, you need to look at the
output of lspci and then add a setserial entry with the right port and
interrupt.

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Re: what are these ports?

2002-01-07 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Dave Anselmi babbled on about:
> Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> > looking at a couple of examples for iptables and several have UDP port
> > 6112, port 6119, and port 4000 open. why? anyone? looking in my
> > /etc/services, I don't see how any of these ports would be needed. Am I
> > missing something?
>
> netstat --ip -lnp should show the process doing the listening (the -p is
> the important part for that).

true that. but I don't have anything on these ports. i wanted to know why the 
scripts leave them open..

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Re: I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread John Hiemenz

On Monday 07 January 2002 10:05 am, Net Llama wrote :

> YOU:  Your shit won't work! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it!
> ATI:  What specifically is the problem you're having?
> YOU:  I don't have time to waste with you, fix your stuff now!
> ATI:  We'd like to help, but we need information on the problem you're
> having.
> YOU:  Fsck you, you suck, i'll never buy from you again!
> ATI:  
>


ROFLMAO

been there on both sides of the phone... that's how it usually ends up.
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Re: internal modem

2002-01-07 Thread Ian

Net Llama wrote:
> 
> --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Was it Net Llama who wrote on Sunday 06 January 2002 22:05:
> > > --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 2. Winmodems are CPU hungry and slow your beast down. Get the
> > external
> > > > one,
> > > > or an expensive card (At least 6 chips usually, vs ~3 for a
> > winmodem).
> > > > If it
> > > > doesn't configure as com 1 or 2, it's not a real modem.
> > >
> > > Please don't tell that to the real modem in my box that has been
> > happily
> > > using COM3 for about 9 months.
> >
> > I won't. I imagine that it can also be configured as com 1 or com 2;
> 
> Trust me, i tried every bit of setserial magic that i could find.  It
> absolutely refuses to work on COM1 or COM2.  BTW, its a 56k USR PCI modem.

You wouldn't have a model number for this thing would you?  My new
machine has only PCI slots and my old reliable 56k modem is ISA.

I either need to track down a good PCI internal or a 56k external...one
or the other.  I'm looking for what's worked for others and so on. It's
not a pressing item, so I've not spent much time figuring out what's a
winmodem and what isn't.
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Re: I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Net Llama

--- Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well I got four words for you..read before you write..about half the
> questions you asked it was already stated on my previous
> post..obviously you
> haven't read the Net Etiquette FAQ...

Yea, whatever.  You're just trolling now.

> The only reason why I bought those cards was that there was rebates
> that was
> supposed to come with the cards but I am still waiting after I bought
> my
> cards 1 1/2 years ago..I basically gave up waiting for my rebates.

Let's try again, did you follow all the rules that the rebates required?


> I am not a disgrunted ATI Customer...even tho it might sound like
> it..but

Not disgruntled, yet you state that you will never purchase their
products again.  Pick one please.

> right now I have two ATI Cards in my machine one works but the ATI TV
> Wonder
> won't work at all...I am just saying ATI don't support their shit and

Others have stated the contrary.  It sounds like they won't support
*you*.  Considering your attitude in this thread, i can't say that i
blame them.  You've come out with all guns blazing for a reason that I
still haven't heard.  You've made numerous broad generalizations, and
provided no specifics on anything.  
I can picture your interaction with ATI already.
YOU:  Your shit won't work! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it!
ATI:  What specifically is the problem you're having?
YOU:  I don't have time to waste with you, fix your stuff now!
ATI:  We'd like to help, but we need information on the problem you're
having.
YOU:  Fsck you, you suck, i'll never buy from you again!
ATI:  

> to
> tell you the truth...ATI will either flounder this year or be taken
> over...

Sure, you're obviously the expert on these things.

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Re: internal modem

2002-01-07 Thread Net Llama

--- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Was it Net Llama who wrote on Sunday 06 January 2002 22:05:
> > --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 2. Winmodems are CPU hungry and slow your beast down. Get the
> external
> > > one,
> > > or an expensive card (At least 6 chips usually, vs ~3 for a
> winmodem).
> > > If it
> > > doesn't configure as com 1 or 2, it's not a real modem.
> >
> > Please don't tell that to the real modem in my box that has been
> happily
> > using COM3 for about 9 months.
> 
> I won't. I imagine that it can also be configured as com 1 or com 2;

Trust me, i tried every bit of setserial magic that i could find.  It
absolutely refuses to work on COM1 or COM2.  BTW, its a 56k USR PCI modem.

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Re: [ltp] Re: [SLE] Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)

2002-01-07 Thread Tim Prince



Dr. Edmund Weitz wrote:

>Tim Prince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>Shane Broomhall wrote:
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>
>>>My computer is an IBM thinkpad A20m.  I have replaced the hard disk
>>>with one of 30M and it has 512M of ram, so I am expecting it to
>>>really scream.  It has an internal DVD, and a Win Modem.  I have an
>>>Iomega USB Zip CDR.
>>>
>>>
>>>I have heard that Winmodems are now useable, has anyone had
>>>experiences with making these work with 7.3 and could you please
>>>give me hint on where to find the instructions. ???
>>>
>>The LT WinModem driver for SuSE 7.3 (from the sfu site to which the
>>SuSE hints point) works fine.  I'm sure there are WinModems which
>>don't work.
>>
>>I'm having difficulty with ALSA, since 7.3 Personal doesn't appear
>>to have kernel headers available, so I may regret the choice of
>>Personal.
>>
>
>I have the 'Update' package, not 'Personal', so I might be wrong, but
>can't you simply install the kernel source RPM? As far as I
>understand, it would be a violation of the GPL if they distributed the
>kernel without the source.
>
>Edi.
>
I'm new to SuSE, and their web sites have been erratic lately, but the 
ALSA magically corrected itself with an upgrade installation and a 
couple of reboots, so it might be said that SuSE Personal 7.3 supports 
the TP20 nearly "out of the box," except that StarOffice doesn't run as 
supplied.

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Fwd: Linux Security for Enterprise

2002-01-07 Thread Douglas J Hunley



--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Linux Security for Enterprise
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:47:36 +0530
From: Deepak Kumar Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello
Recently IBM has given following two excellent white papers on Linux
Security for Enterprise. I liked  white papers very much and found very
useful. The paper pointed out very relevant issues. The papers are available
at following link: -

The whiter paper by IBM on "Linux Security for Enterprise" as available at:
-
http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/linux/whitepapers/secu
rity/les_summary.pdf

The below mentioned document also seems to be a good reading, although I
have not read it properly as I am not able to open it (its.pdf version gives
IO error).

The whiter paper by IBM on "Security Requirement for Deployment of Linux
Kernel in Enterprise Systems" as available at: -
http://oss.software.ibm.com/developer/opensource/linux/whitepapers/security/
les_whitepaper.pdf

Regards
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Re: Re[1] I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Ted Ozolins

At 03:59 AM 1/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi,
>I bought an ATI card "Radeon 7000 AGP 32 Mb" which works
>finely with windows but it doesn't work with Mandrake 8.0
>I downloaded and installed XFree86 4.1.0 but whithout more
>success.
>Any help is welcome.
>Maybe kernel 2.4.2 is short ?
>Thanks in advance.
>Patrick
The ATI Radeon 7000 AGP is a relatively new kid on the block. I strongly 
doubt that there is a driver for it yet. It uses a totally different 
theater chip then other radeon based cards. I have not picked one up yet 
and am not sure how you would set this puppy up. Maybe it can be  set up as 
a generic radeon. Go to xfree86.org and see what they have as far as 
support for this card. At any rate it should work with the "vesa" driver 
until a driver for the 7000 is created.

Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO)
Westbank. B. C. 

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Fwd: [linux-elitists] ANNOUNCEMENT::Free Software Institute Begins - Linux 1 Class [ruben@mrbrklyn.com] [ruben@mrbrklyn.com]

2002-01-07 Thread Douglas J Hunley

for those in the area..

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Subject: [linux-elitists] ANNOUNCEMENT::Free Software Institute Begins - 
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Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:03:54 -0500
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Following up on last nights wildly successful first Free Software
Institute Meeting, the Chair of the Institute, and myself, wish to
introduce the first class of our cradle to grave Linux/Free Software
program of NYLXS (see http://www.nylxs.com).

Paul will followup on the complete program, but I would like to
announce the first class.  This is a very exciting begining.

The first class is called Intoduction to Linux.  The cost is $200
plus you can purchase a computer through our network of
hardware vendors to participate in the class.  This class goes
through the installation process of Linux on standard hardware
and ONLY hardware which we order through our vendor will
be allowed to be used in the classroom.  This prevents us from
turning into installfest maddness.

People who spring for the machine (for less than $500) will
beable to use it in further classes as we learn to build a powerful
system.

The class will be 5 classes in 5 weeks from
Monday Febuary 4th until March 4th.  All students
MUST pay in advanced.

The time of the class will be 7PM - 10:30PM  We might push later is
required.  We will also meet on line for instruction on an agreed upon
weeksly time to fill out about 6 hours a weeks instruction.

We will hold class at
Rosenswieg and Maffia at 845 3rd Avenue in Midtown Manhattan


A maximum of 20 students can be accomedated.

Checks are made payable to NYLXS.

Final exams of this class is the installation of a system with
basic setup.


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This is the Syllabus for the first class:

Introduction to Linux
Installation
Boot Media, Kernels
Hard Drives
Partitions
fdisk, type 82, 83 etc
swap partitions, mkswap, swapon, partition types,
patition tables, /boot /home /usr /var
file systems, ext2, reiser, ext3, mke2fs


Intro to the Shell
Kernel ->getty->login-shell
/etc/passwd
adduser
/etc/group

Introduction to VI
VI Commands (and vim)
Command mode
i=>insert
o=>open
a=>append
dd=>delete
yy=>yank
p=> paste
jklim

edit more
Typing to the screen


execute mode

:w write
:q quit

/search

:wq! at all costs

1,$s/old/new/g - global substitutions


Basic Shell Commands
ls
cp
mv
ls glob*
cat
ps
pstree
top

Files, ownershop, group permission


Setting up X
XF86Setup
Knowing your hardware

Network Setup Basics
ipaddress
host name
domain name
gateway
dns entries

adding users on different systems

ifconfig
modules - lsmod, modprobe, depmode


This class will be followed up by the Unix 1 Class.

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Re: Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)

2002-01-07 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Monday 07 January 2002 10:10 am, Schmeits, Roger wrote:
> >And  vmware is very easy to set up.
>
> Just out of curosity was that a laptop or a desktop?
> Did you create a virtual OS (if I recollect correctly) or did you use a
> preinstalled OS system?
> How is the performance?
>
>
> I looked at putting it on a laptop and it turned into a of work. Mabye I
> will have to try again...
> Thanks.

That was on a desktop but the amount of work shouldn't be any different for a 
laptop.  And I installed Win98SE under VMware under linux.

I ran Win4Lin for awhile but have totally given up on it.  Requires kernel 
patches and they are always behind on those.  VMware is very clean to install 
and uninstall and also to work with.




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RE: Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)

2002-01-07 Thread Schmeits, Roger

>And  vmware is very easy to set up.
Just out of curosity was that a laptop or a desktop?
Did you create a virtual OS (if I recollect correctly) or did you use a
preinstalled OS system?
How is the performance?


I looked at putting it on a laptop and it turned into a of work. Mabye I
will have to try again...
Thanks.




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RE: Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)

2002-01-07 Thread Schmeits, Roger

I have a winmodem in this laptop and it works -- the performance is sucky at
best.  My advice ist to build a firewall (www.smoothwall.org) with an dialup
modem and use an ethernet card on your laptop.  You might want to check out
the winmodem listserv best on that one.
 I also looked at Vmware on a laptop and I would not recommend it.  Gets too
complicated and messy.  On a desktop it might be ok but not a laptop.  dont
get me wrong it can be done but to much work for me (not enouh time in the
day I guess).
 
Roger

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RE: Linux Tutorials On-line or downloadable

2002-01-07 Thread Schmeits, Roger

Shane,
Checkout http:\\rute.sourceforge.net which is free and downloadable - very
good book espically if you all ready have a windows background. Purchase the
book if you can this will not go out of date because everything is from the
command line.Another one is http:\\www.informit.com -- you have to register
but the have lots of free articles/books and you can also purchase if you
need to.

Roger
>  -Original Message-
> From: Shane Broomhall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:03 AM
> To:   Suse-Linux-E; Linux-Users; Linux-Thinkpad
> Subject:  Linux Tutorials On-line or downloadable
> 
> 
> Hi all ,
> 
> I am planning on moving from Windows 2000 to linux with in the next month.
> I have basic linux skills, but I am by no means a competent user.  I am
> hoping that people on this list will be able to point me towards on-line
> or downloadable tutorials or books that will help me increase my
> knowledge.  I am familar with linuxdoc.org, and i will be getting the
> latest copy of the howtos before I move across.
> 
> But does anyone have any resources for learning scripting, html, C++
> programming, or linux configuration. Some kind of scripting that I can use
> to filter my mail and so on would be nice.  I have the ability to purchase
> hard cover books and have many, but as they go out of date so soon, I am
> hoping for free resources.  I would be willing to join an online library
> if I can download the books.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Shane Broomhall
> 
> Brisbane Australia
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Re: re snapshots

2002-01-07 Thread Kurt Wall

On January 07, Mike Andrew enlightened our ignorance thusly:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:03, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
> 
> > a compliment from Mikey. I think I'll print this! ;)
> 
> 
> Okay, Okay, *everyone* makes a slipup some times. Hell, I am part human.

Are you still wearing your KurtWerks (tm) Hat?

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Re: government skill form

2002-01-07 Thread Kurt Wall

On January 07, Mike Andrew enlightened our ignorance thusly:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:05, Chang wrote:
> 
> > AIX5L is really Linux??? you aren't kidding? :)
> 
> It is a transmigration of AIX (which is not, incidentally an exclusive IBM 
> 'thing') into the Linux view of the world.

[...]

Indeed.  AIX5L is IBM's version of Monterrey, a joint project of
IBM, SCO (and others) for developing a version of Unix to run on the
IA64 processor from Intel.

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Re: Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)

2002-01-07 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Monday 07 January 2002 5:37 am, Shane Broomhall wrote:
> I have heard that Winmodems are now useable, has anyone had experiences
> with making these work with 7.3 and could you please give me hint on where
> to find the instructions. ???

I have a Thinkpad A20m  and you can find a driver for the modem at:  
www.linmodems.org.

And  vmware is very easy to set up.



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IBM/Lotus requires using MSIE on their website

2002-01-07 Thread Tim Wunder

I get this when attempting to use Lotus' iNotes on line demo at
http://showcase2.notes.net/inreg.nsf/regform

We have detected that you are not using Microsoft Internet Explorer as 
your Web browser. The iNotes Web Access live demo is optimized to work 
with Microsoft Internet Explorer. Please reopen this demo in Microsoft 
Internet Explorer.

Thank you!


I thought IBM was a linux-friendly company...

Tim

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Re: internal modem

2002-01-07 Thread Declan Moriarty

Was it Net Llama who wrote on Sunday 06 January 2002 22:05:
> --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2. Winmodems are CPU hungry and slow your beast down. Get the external
> > one,
> > or an expensive card (At least 6 chips usually, vs ~3 for a winmodem).
> > If it
> > doesn't configure as com 1 or 2, it's not a real modem.
>
> Please don't tell that to the real modem in my box that has been happily
> using COM3 for about 9 months.

I won't. I imagine that it can also be configured as com 1 or com 2; it 
passes the test. Winmodems are unlikely to use these allocations. 
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Re: [ltp] Re: [SLE] Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)

2002-01-07 Thread Dr. Edmund Weitz

Tim Prince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Shane Broomhall wrote:
> 
> >Hi All,
> >
> >
> >My computer is an IBM thinkpad A20m.  I have replaced the hard disk
> >with one of 30M and it has 512M of ram, so I am expecting it to
> >really scream.  It has an internal DVD, and a Win Modem.  I have an
> >Iomega USB Zip CDR.
> >
> >
> >I have heard that Winmodems are now useable, has anyone had
> >experiences with making these work with 7.3 and could you please
> >give me hint on where to find the instructions. ???
> >
> The LT WinModem driver for SuSE 7.3 (from the sfu site to which the
> SuSE hints point) works fine.  I'm sure there are WinModems which
> don't work.
> 
> I'm having difficulty with ALSA, since 7.3 Personal doesn't appear
> to have kernel headers available, so I may regret the choice of
> Personal.

I have the 'Update' package, not 'Personal', so I might be wrong, but
can't you simply install the kernel source RPM? As far as I
understand, it would be a violation of the GPL if they distributed the
kernel without the source.

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Re: [SLE] Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)

2002-01-07 Thread Tim Prince



Shane Broomhall wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>
>My computer is an IBM thinkpad A20m.  I have replaced the hard disk with one
>of 30M and it has 512M of ram, so I am expecting it to really scream.  It
>has an internal DVD, and a Win Modem.  I have an Iomega USB Zip CDR.
>
>
>I have heard that Winmodems are now useable, has anyone had experiences with
>making these work with 7.3 and could you please give me hint on where to
>find the instructions. ???
>
The LT WinModem driver for SuSE 7.3 (from the sfu site to which the SuSE 
hints point) works fine.  I'm sure there are WinModems which don't work.

I'm having difficulty with ALSA, since 7.3 Personal doesn't appear to 
have kernel headers available, so I may regret the choice of Personal.



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Re: A gnutella client that works (for me)

2002-01-07 Thread Joel Hammer

On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 11:55:19AM +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:24:17 -0500
> Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> | Well, in the past two days I have tried, on my caldera 2.4 with an 2.4
> | kernal and XFree4x:
> | Limewire: Failed, runtime java error.
> 
> Odd. LimeWire has worked fine for me both on 2.4 and 3.1. I have only
> used the Java that comes with the OS. Have you modified the stock
> java?
> 
> My last experiences with gtk-gnutella was that it gave up too easily
> when downloading. Maybe this is better now.
> 

I don't know enuf about Java to know if it has been modified or not. I
know I never do anything to it or with it. If my apps don't work with
it properly, I haven't a clue.

gtk-gnutella is still working great.
Joel

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Re: A gnutella client that works (for me)

2002-01-07 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

What version of LimeWire are you using? I have not updated mine in
some time. But it was after LimeWire was changed to work with the
latest java. Like you, I do too little with java. Still, it could
be the version of LimeWire that you are using. (I will have to check
at home to see which version I use.)

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 07:39:54 -0500
Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| I don't know enuf about Java to know if it has been modified or not. I
| know I never do anything to it or with it. If my apps don't work with
| it properly, I haven't a clue.
| 
| gtk-gnutella is still working great.
| Joel
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Re: receiving my own mail using sendmail

2002-01-07 Thread Chang

I see. if I am to pump in my real IP address, 
I needed to use a script to generate the zone file
using /etc/ppp/ip-up (my ISP used pppoe), 
and restarts named afterward.

Does named have a runtime paramters to achieve that?
or say could I point MX into an executable script?

> >   10  IN  MX  localhost
> >   20  IN  MX  localhost
> > localhost IN  A   127.0.0.1
> > #snipped
> machine that you're currently on and thus you need to use your internet
> resolvable ip (eg .24.222.111.123), not merely localhost, 
> for the address record connected with it.

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Re: [expert] I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva

Hi,

I'm realy interested too abou AIW.  I have a Studio PCTV and it
works much better under linux than under Winblows.  I'm figuring out if the same 
happens to
AIW...
Unfortunately I have just a PII 300 and I wondering how to keep
video and sound capture in sync with such a hardware by now...

Some friends who uses AIW 128 (just under Winblows) are very
desappointed with it.  I tried but didn't convice them to use linux.

I realy would like to hear more about AIW Radeon (graphics accel.
and video capture) from linux users.


On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Matthew Carpenter wrote:

> Has anyone searched for "Linux" on ATI's web site?  I did and found a decent 45 
>hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ.  In the FAQ they answer a lot of questions 
>honestly and fairly.  Where some vendors would simply state that their hardware has 
>been known to work with Linux but they don't provide support, their FAQ gives quite a 
>bit of details about where to find help, what does work and what is being worked on.  
>While they don't directly support Linux (which of course would be better), the treat 
>it much like they do.  They give links to OpenSource sites for support and 
>suggest(mildly) that users contribute at XFree86.org.
>
> As a strong Linux user/supporter, I like to see the kind of information that they 
>make available.  I will definitely be purchasing ATI hardware in the near future, as 
>I am interested in video capture and conversion.  AIW seems to be the way to go.  I 
>am interested in others' input about this topic.
>
> Thought I'd let you know.
>
> Matt
>
>

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Re: iptables example

2002-01-07 Thread Chang

I did borrow lines from 4 scripts and then make them into one.
I will start with eliminate redundancies first though I may not know
where the redundancies are. I knew nothing about TCP protocols.

Thanks.


> > Is my iptables ok? I wanted to submit it indeed... :)
> Lots of confusing redundancy.  Rules that will never be 
> used.  Looks like several scripts cobbled together from 
> all the overlap.  Needs general cleaning up (get rid of 
> all the unused lines).

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Re: Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)

2002-01-07 Thread Mike Andrew

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 22:07, Shane Broomhall wrote:

> My name is Shane Broomhall from Brisbane Australia. 

Australian is ok, but did you have to mention ?

> IBM thinkpad A20m. 

They work fine under the penguin. Depending on model, you have some minor 
display issues to attend to.

> It has an internal DVD

Standard ide-cdrom under linux, with the option of using special app binaries 
to 'play dvd' of which I am ignorant. BUT, as a base driver, this animal is a 
linux, ide, cd-rom.

> and a Win Modem.  

Winmodem->Pctel->

But, get an external and save grief. You *can* get it working, for AUD50 why 
bother?

>I have an Iomega USB Zip

Bulk-Storage-Zip->USB

>USB CDR.

USB -> General info (answer is yes, but I'm not 100% on the cd burn)

> My last usage of Suse was on this laptop with 7.0.  I have purchased 7.3
> pro.  My questions are as follows.:

This mail-server runs SuSE 7.3 (when Dougie ain't fiddling with it)

> the 2.4 Kernal has support for USB devices, would anyone know if my USB CDR
> would be detected and it it would be useable as a CDR. ??

General answer is it will work as a cd-rom, I believe it is hot pluggable and 
haven't tried that, I am ignorant of a usb->scsi emulator. Scsi emulation is 
mandatory for burning *any* cd. 

> Does the USB Zip Drive work as well ???

Perfectly. Both 100, and 250 megger cartridges. It is also hot pluggable.

> I have heard that Winmodems are now useable, has anyone had experiences
> with making these work with 7.3 and could you please give me hint on where
> to find the instructions. ???

you want a hint?

Buy an external and don't muck about.

>Myob

You *might* want to consider dual boot. Avoid Windows XP NTFS style 
formatting whichever way you go. Such 'disks' are currently read-only under 
Linux.

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Linux Tutorials On-line or downloadable

2002-01-07 Thread Shane Broomhall


Hi all ,

I am planning on moving from Windows 2000 to linux with in the next month.
I have basic linux skills, but I am by no means a competent user.  I am
hoping that people on this list will be able to point me towards on-line or
downloadable tutorials or books that will help me increase my knowledge.  I
am familar with linuxdoc.org, and i will be getting the latest copy of the
howtos before I move across.

But does anyone have any resources for learning scripting, html, C++
programming, or linux configuration. Some kind of scripting that I can use
to filter my mail and so on would be nice.  I have the ability to purchase
hard cover books and have many, but as they go out of date so soon, I am
hoping for free resources.  I would be willing to join an online library if
I can download the books.

Thanks in advance.

Shane Broomhall

Brisbane Australia

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Re: A gnutella client that works (for me)

2002-01-07 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:24:17 -0500
Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| Well, in the past two days I have tried, on my caldera 2.4 with an 2.4
| kernal and XFree4x:
| Limewire: Failed, runtime java error.

Odd. LimeWire has worked fine for me both on 2.4 and 3.1. I have only
used the Java that comes with the OS. Have you modified the stock
java?

My last experiences with gtk-gnutella was that it gave up too easily
when downloading. Maybe this is better now.

Still, I like LimeWire.

| hagelslag: Compiled, but never downloaded anything and seg faulted over
| night.
| gtella: Wouldn't  configure, missing qt uic whatever, and I gave up.
| gtk-gnutella: Failed to configure at first. It gave me a comprehensible
| error, missing /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h. Turns out, I have moved a lot
| of stuff onto other drives. Unbeknown to me, some files necessary for
| configuring new software are present in the "wrong" directories but are
| linked to the proper location with symbolic links. When you move things to
| different hard drives, the links don't seem to travel too well. So, this may
| help to explain puzzling errors when I install software.
| ANYWAY, gtk-gnutella works great, very fast and gets results. Uploads and
| downloads properly. And, it is simple to use.
| Joel

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Re: re snapshots

2002-01-07 Thread Mike Andrew

On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:03, Douglas J Hunley wrote:

> a compliment from Mikey. I think I'll print this! ;)


Okay, Okay, *everyone* makes a slipup some times. Hell, I am part human.


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Re: I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Mike Andrew

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:40, Jerry wrote:

>ATI will either flounder this year or be taken over...

I don't buy into flame wars, but I support that observation. My *ultra* 
limited experience of ATI is that they have neither of the two essentials, a 
'wow' grafix processor, and hypermarketing.


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Questions about moving from Win2k to SUSE 7.3 Pro (Long)

2002-01-07 Thread Shane Broomhall


Hi All,

My name is Shane Broomhall from Brisbane Australia.  I have migrated once
from Widows to Linux but had to change back due to work requirements.  I am
now looking at moving back with in a month, but I have a few concerns I hope
this list can address.

My computer is an IBM thinkpad A20m.  I have replaced the hard disk with one
of 30M and it has 512M of ram, so I am expecting it to really scream.  It
has an internal DVD, and a Win Modem.  I have an Iomega USB Zip CDR.

My last usage of Suse was on this laptop with 7.0.  I have purchased 7.3
pro.  My questions are as follows.:



the 2.4 Kernal has support for USB devices, would anyone know if my USB CDR
would be detected and it it would be useable as a CDR. ??



Does the USB Zip Drive work as well ???



I have heard that Winmodems are now useable, has anyone had experiences with
making these work with 7.3 and could you please give me hint on where to
find the instructions. ???



Currently I am using Norton Internet secutiry as my anti virus and firewall,
I am at times detecting port scans every few minutes.  Are there any
available instructions on really securing Suse Linux or linux generally to
prevent or at least slow down hackers and scanners ??

Are there any tools to give them a slap on the wrist if they try ?


I will still need to run some windows applications but I am hoping to use an
emulator, probably Vmware, how difficult is this to setup ??  The main
program is an accounting program called MYOB.



Thanks in advance for your help, and replies

Shane

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Re: I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Mike Andrew

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:55, Net Llama wrote:

> ATI may have lost ground against NVidia, but they haven't lost anything
> against Voodoo, which has become the has-been of the videocard world.

In some ways they did. NVidia bought out Voodoo, lock, stock, barrel. *Had* 
Ati chosen to buy them instead, we might be singing different tunes. Not a 
contradiction at you llama, an observation.


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Re: government skill form

2002-01-07 Thread Mike Andrew

On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:05, Chang wrote:

> AIX5L is really Linux??? you aren't kidding? :)

It is a transmigration of AIX (which is not, incidentally an exclusive IBM 
'thing') into the Linux view of the world.

It is AIX, with Linux added in. In reality, we are simply talking about 
moving to Linux file tree stucture names, the use of bash as a script, and 
the changing of existing binaries to more familiar Linux (gnu) labels like 
awk, grep, etc.

AIX for your info was concieved as a Unix spoiler. It was intended to cripple 
and destroy Unix, since Unix was seen as far far far too 'universal' and 
non-proprietary. IBM, among others, made (past tense) their profits from 
selling expensive, quality software. They are no longer interested in that, 
preferring universal applications, backed by their 'service agreements'.  The 
overused word enterprise solutions comes to mind.

Hence, they would prefer to see the death of the unix-killer.


 
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Re: KDE configuration

2002-01-07 Thread Mike Andrew

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:55, Clint Tevlin wrote:
> I've installed eD2.4 on my intended gateway PC but KDE
> appears stretched vertically, ie icons and menubar spacings.

As a very bad guess you have the wrong card configured in the Xserver. Which 
video card are you using?

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Re: ELX iso's...

2002-01-07 Thread Mike Andrew

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:52, lesley wrote:
> What is an ELX iso ???

Just to be very clear on what Collin's has said, an iso is shorthand for an 
image.iso. It is the contents of an entire, existing, cd. You can replicate a 
cd by burning it directly.

It is not exclusively connected with ELX, but rather, the other way round, 
where  that's called ELX is on cd, and an iso image, or 
several iso images exist of it.

There's also an interesting piece of technogeek here. Many of us may never 
have heard of an ELX distribution but instantly associate the words together 
as meaning just that.

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Re: I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Roger Oberholtzer


I'm partial to nVidia. Their Linux device driver has worked nice in a
FireWire video system I put together. I would like to know if the newer
ATI cards that have firewire interfaces are fully supported on Linux.
I have seen some references to firewire support, but in other places 
they say that the ATI cards use a firewire chip that is not supported.

I guess I will check the ATI FAQ. So, thank's for the pointer. I did not
check earlier because I expected what you expected.

On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:06:43 -0500
Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| Has anyone searched for "Linux" on ATI's web site?  I did and found a decent 45 
|hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ.  In the FAQ they answer a lot of questions 
|honestly and fairly.  Where some vendors would simply state that their hardware has 
|been known to work with Linux but they don't provide support, their FAQ gives quite a 
|bit of details about where to find help, what does work and what is being worked on.  
|While they don't directly support Linux (which of course would be better), the treat 
|it much like they do.  They give links to OpenSource sites for support and 
|suggest(mildly) that users contribute at XFree86.org.
| 
| As a strong Linux user/supporter, I like to see the kind of information that they 
|make available.  I will definitely be purchasing ATI hardware in the near future, as 
|I am interested in video capture and conversion.  AIW seems to be the way to go.  I 
|am interested in others' input about this topic.
| 
| Thought I'd let you know.

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Re[1] I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread patrick kapturkiewicz

Hi,
I bought an ATI card "Radeon 7000 AGP 32 Mb" which works 
finely with windows but it doesn't work with Mandrake 8.0
I downloaded and installed XFree86 4.1.0 but whithout more 
success.
Any help is welcome.
Maybe kernel 2.4.2 is short ?
Thanks in advance.
Patrick

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