Re: Pub for tomorrow?

[Dirk Koopman]

Martin A. Brooks wrote:

James Laver wrote:

I don't believe I've ever seen you drink beer, Martin.

Beer is dark and foamy and good, not light, fizzy and 'superchilled'.
Unless you think conditions outside count as 'summer', and looking out
of a window in the City, I can't agree...


That's because I mostly don't drink beer.  If I wanted to toss sour, 
astringic liquid down my throat, I'd do it properly and suck on a 
lemon.  There's a few exceptions, like double chocolate stout, and 
banana bread beer, and waggle dance, but mostly it just tastes like what 
you get if you pour warm water and a dash of fairy liquid into a 
recently used and, not yet washed, roasting tin, then swill it around, 
sieve, pour and serve.




Sadly any of these beers give me gout. So it is either red wine or 
decent (genuine) german lager for me these days.


Sigh...

Dirk

Re: Pub next year (was Re: Pub for tomorrow?)

[David Cantrell]

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 05:16:10PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote:

> The range "1st December - February" encompasses Thursday, 1st January, which
> as any heretic knows is not the date for the original orthodox meeting.
> 
> Or something like that.
> 
> But we're looking for a pub for the hardy souls who will be out on the 1st,
> rather than waiting for Thursday 8th?
> 
> (Or is this nothing to do with our wonderful pub minion, and instead something
> for our official bad influence to, um, "influence")

I suppose I'd better announce my Plan then, hadn't I.

-- 
David Cantrell | Official London Perl Mongers Bad Influence

There is no one true indentation style,
But if there were K&R would be Its Prophets.
Peace be upon Their Holy Beards.

Re: Pub for tomorrow?

[David Cantrell]

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 11:46:55PM +, Martin A. Brooks wrote:

> That's because I mostly don't drink beer.  If I wanted to toss sour, 
> astringic liquid down my throat, I'd do it properly and suck on a 
> lemon.  There's a few exceptions, like double chocolate stout, and 
> banana bread beer, and waggle dance, but mostly it just tastes like what 
> you get if you pour warm water and a dash of fairy liquid into a 
> recently used and, not yet washed, roasting tin, then swill it around, 
> sieve, pour and serve.

Sieve?

SIEVE?

But you're missing out on the Burnt And Crunchy Bits!

Philistine.

-- 
David Cantrell | Nth greatest programmer in the world

Guns aren't the problem.  People who deserve to die are the problem.

Re: Pub for tomorrow?

[Jonathan Stowe]

On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 17:06 +, Kake L Pugh wrote:
> On Fri 28 Nov 2008, James Laver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Beer is dark and foamy and good, not light, fizzy and 'superchilled'.
> 
> Speaking of beer... it's the season for Fuller's London Porter!
> 
> Although this is available in bottles all year round, the bottled
> version's not a patch on the cask version.  Some of us had it from the
> cask at the George IV in Chiswick last night, and it's also been
> recently sighted at the Mad Hatter just south of Blackfriars Bridge
> and at the Red Lion in Ealing.
> 
> http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?George_IV,_W4_2DR
> http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Mad_Hatter,_SE1_9NY
> http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Red_Lion,_W5_5RA
> 
> It's also apparently very nearly the season for Shepherd Neame
> Original Porter, which I believe is available from 1 December until
> February - if anyone sees it, do let me know.

Also Adnam's Yuletide, Old Ale and Tally Ho 

/J\

Re: Pub for tomorrow?

[Martin A. Brooks]

James Laver wrote:

I don't believe I've ever seen you drink beer, Martin.

Beer is dark and foamy and good, not light, fizzy and 'superchilled'.
Unless you think conditions outside count as 'summer', and looking out
of a window in the City, I can't agree...


That's because I mostly don't drink beer.  If I wanted to toss sour, 
astringic liquid down my throat, I'd do it properly and suck on a 
lemon.  There's a few exceptions, like double chocolate stout, and 
banana bread beer, and waggle dance, but mostly it just tastes like what 
you get if you pour warm water and a dash of fairy liquid into a 
recently used and, not yet washed, roasting tin, then swill it around, 
sieve, pour and serve.

Re: Pub next year (was Re: Pub for tomorrow?)

[Kake L Pugh]

On Fri 28 Nov 2008, Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But we're looking for a pub for the hardy souls who will be out on the 1st,
> rather than waiting for Thursday 8th?
> 
> (Or is this nothing to do with our wonderful pub minion, and instead
> something for our official bad influence to, um, "influence")

Nicholas, Nicholas, your heretical ways are nothing to do with me.

I might, however, be available for completely coincidental drinking on
the 1st.  I'm still quite taken with the idea of wandering around Kew
Gardens (free entry that day) in the afternoon before retiring to a
nearby hostelry for some foamy beer.  I'm not organising it though[0].

Kake
[0] But here is a link for all RGL things within a kilometre of (the vague
centre of) Kew Gardens:
http://london.randomness.org.uk/search.cgi?os_dist=1000&os_x=518425&os_y=176955

Pub next year (was Re: Pub for tomorrow?)

[Nicholas Clark]

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 05:06:46PM +, Kake L Pugh wrote:

> It's also apparently very nearly the season for Shepherd Neame
> Original Porter, which I believe is available from 1 December until
> February - if anyone sees it, do let me know.

$ cal 1 2009 
January 2009
Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
 1  2  3
 4  5  6  7  8  9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30 31

The range "1st December - February" encompasses Thursday, 1st January, which
as any heretic knows is not the date for the original orthodox meeting.

Or something like that.

But we're looking for a pub for the hardy souls who will be out on the 1st,
rather than waiting for Thursday 8th?

(Or is this nothing to do with our wonderful pub minion, and instead something
for our official bad influence to, um, "influence")

Ah yes. Pub next Month. Next social, next Thursday, Bridge House:
http://london.pm.org/meetings/locations/bridge_house.html

All hail Kake for organising that.

Nicholas Clark

Re: Pub for tomorrow?

[Kake L Pugh]

On Fri 28 Nov 2008, James Laver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Beer is dark and foamy and good, not light, fizzy and 'superchilled'.

Speaking of beer... it's the season for Fuller's London Porter!

Although this is available in bottles all year round, the bottled
version's not a patch on the cask version.  Some of us had it from the
cask at the George IV in Chiswick last night, and it's also been
recently sighted at the Mad Hatter just south of Blackfriars Bridge
and at the Red Lion in Ealing.

http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?George_IV,_W4_2DR
http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Mad_Hatter,_SE1_9NY
http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Red_Lion,_W5_5RA

It's also apparently very nearly the season for Shepherd Neame
Original Porter, which I believe is available from 1 December until
February - if anyone sees it, do let me know.

Kake

Re: Pub for tomorrow?

[James Laver]

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Martin A. Brooks
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tomas Doran wrote:
>>
>> Tim Taylor Landlord
>> Adanms (x2 if you're lucky)
>> London Pride.
>
> I'll be sticking with wifebeater, then :)
>

I don't believe I've ever seen you drink beer, Martin.

Beer is dark and foamy and good, not light, fizzy and 'superchilled'.
Unless you think conditions outside count as 'summer', and looking out
of a window in the City, I can't agree...

--James

Re: Pub for tomorrow?

[Tomas Doran]

On 28 Nov 2008, at 16:07, Martin A. Brooks wrote:


Tomas Doran wrote:

Tim Taylor Landlord
Adanms (x2 if you're lucky)
London Pride.


I'll be sticking with wifebeater, then :)


Well, it's no double chocolate stout, but I'd say you're a crazy man  
for switching to wifebeater...


Each to their own however.

Cheers
t0m

Re: Pub for tomorrow?

[Martin A. Brooks]

Tomas Doran wrote:

Tim Taylor Landlord
Adanms (x2 if you're lucky)
London Pride. 


I'll be sticking with wifebeater, then :)

Re: Pub for tomorrow?

[Tomas Doran]

On 28 Nov 2008, at 15:11, David Dorward wrote:


Tomas Doran wrote:


* Has 3/4 nice real ales


Is this like Russian Roulette? Someone gets unlucky and has to  
drink the

pint of mud?


Heh, its more that they usually have 4, but sometimes 3.

From memory you're likely to get:

Tim Taylor Landlord
Adanms (x2 if you're lucky)
London Pride.

Cheers
t0m

Re: Pub for tomorrow?

[David Dorward]

Tomas Doran wrote:

> * Has 3/4 nice real ales

Is this like Russian Roulette? Someone gets unlucky and has to drink the
pint of mud?

-- 
David Dorward   

Re: Pub for tomorrow?

[Tomas Doran]

On 28 Nov 2008, at 14:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I was just at the Calthorpe for lunch, paranoia prompted me to  
check and

it turns out it's booked for a wake this evening.


OK, so do we want to make an alternative plan? Although I can't  
make it to
the LPW tomorrow, I was hoping to have a couple of beers and a chat  
with

people tonight.



The alternate plan / pub is the Kings Arms. This is:

* Close to the original venu
* Has 3/4 nice real ales
* Does good, affordable Thai food
* Has quiet upstairs room we can invade
* Is out of the way that it is still quite quiet.

Convinced? Good...

http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/20/20555/Kings_Arms/Clerkenwell

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=WC1N 
+2JF&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=51.524979,-0.116901&spn=0.015914,0.038195&z=15


I'll hopefully get up to the Calthorpe at just after 6, and get the  
bar staff to redirect confused people in the right direction...


Cheers
t0m

Re: Pub for tomorrow?

[ben]

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 02:30:30PM +, Martin A. Brooks wrote:
>Tomas Doran wrote:
>>
>>On 27 Nov 2008, at 13:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>  I'm assuming others are travelling down to London the night before 
>>>as I am. Is there a pub people are planning to meet at tomorrow night?
>>
>>http://conferences.yapceurope.org/lpw2008/wiki?node=FridayNightMeetup 
>
>I was just at the Calthorpe for lunch, paranoia prompted me to check and 
>it turns out it's booked for a wake this evening.

OK, so do we want to make an alternative plan? Although I can't make it to
the LPW tomorrow, I was hoping to have a couple of beers and a chat with 
people tonight.

Ben

Re: Pub for tomorrow?

[Martin A. Brooks]

Tomas Doran wrote:


On 27 Nov 2008, at 13:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,
  I'm assuming others are travelling down to London the night before 
as I am. Is there a pub people are planning to meet at tomorrow night?


http://conferences.yapceurope.org/lpw2008/wiki?node=FridayNightMeetup 



I was just at the Calthorpe for lunch, paranoia prompted me to check and 
it turns out it's booked for a wake this evening.

Re: Pub for tomorrow?

[Tomas Doran]

On 27 Nov 2008, at 13:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,
  I'm assuming others are travelling down to London the night  
before as I am. Is there a pub people are planning to meet at  
tomorrow night?


http://conferences.yapceurope.org/lpw2008/wiki?node=FridayNightMeetup

HTH
t0m

Re: Pub recommendation needed

[Andy Wardley]

David Cantrell wrote:

Can anyone recommend a pub near Hampton Court for lunch?


The Albany is about 10 minutes walk from the station (~3 mins in a car).
Lovely location on the river, but popular and often busy.  It's Gastro
Pub style.  Turn left out of the station.  Go a few hundred yards,
turn left again into Summer Road, over the railway Xing, around the bend,
turn left into Queen's Road.  It's at the end of the road.

  http://www.the-albany.co.uk/contact.htm

The Lamb and Star is also gastro-pub style.  It's usually a bit quieter.
Left out of the station and keep going.  It's on the right.

  http://tinyurl.com/4kahmo

HTH
A

Re: Pub feedback please

[Kate L Pugh]

On Mon 08 Sep 2003, Scott McWhirter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the fact that the bottom bar wasn't manned pissed me off a little...

I'm sorry you were disappointed by this.  I did know it would be the
case but forgot to mention it in the announcement.  This isn't the
only pub we use that doesn't have an open bar in the function room -
the Star and Calthorpe Arms are the same, as was the Three Cups before
they closed it.

Kake

Re: Pub feedback please

[Scott McWhirter]

On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 01:58:12AM +0100, Michael Stevens wrote:
> The problem with the beer was basically that they ran out of several
> kinds of the nicer beer - they ran out of bombardier fairly early, then
> something else (old speckled hen?) then by around 9:30ish they ran
> out of Young's Bitter, leaving us forced to drink guiness as the best
> beer.
> 
What!? you're saying that guinness is a 2nd best!?
The guinness wasn't bad however my knowledge of guinness in england
isn't that great. The atmosphere wasn't bad although the fact that the
bottom bar wasn't manned pissed me off a little... those stairs are not
designed for persons under the influence.

BTW, i had a great time... thanks for having me folks!


-- 
-Scott McWhirter- | -kungfuftr-

Re: Pub feedback please

[Mike Jarvis]

On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 04:38:13PM -0400, Chris Devers wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > imagine a world where budwieser is your only choice.
> 
> I've heard that this world is called "St. Louis".
> 
> Fortunately, it's a small place, easy to escape from,
> and more importantly it also gave us Miles Davis.


On Euclid Ave there is(or was when I attended Mizzou) a good pub run
by a Welsh family that had decent beer (Dressel's if you're ever
stuck there for some reason).  It could just be the
exception that proves the rule tho.  I certainly wouldn't call St
Louis small either, after living in Columbia, Missouri.  Columbia does
probably have nearly the same number of cultural attractions as St
Louis, and twice that of KC.


-- 
mike

Re: Pub feedback please

[Chris Devers]

On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> imagine a world where budwieser is your only choice.

I've heard that this world is called "St. Louis".

Fortunately, it's a small place, easy to escape from,
and more importantly it also gave us Miles Davis.

You lose some, you win some.



-- 
Chris Devers  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://devers.homeip.net:8080/blog/

np: 'Diminuendo In Blue Blow By Blow'
 by Duke Ellington
 from 'Cote d'Azur Concerts (Disc 1)'

Re: Pub feedback please

[alex]

At 15:40 07/09/03, Lusercop wrote:
Thursday night was not the first time I've been to that pub and they've run
out of beer.


The science fiction fans of London are having exactly the same problems
as London.pm trying to find a suitable pub for meetings. Frankly every
pub we have ever tried has run out of beer at least once.
Alex McLintock

Re: Pub feedback please

[Kate L Pugh]

On Sun 07 Sep 2003, Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I find it more convenient than either the Calthorpe Arms, the Lamb
> or the Star of Belgravia - it has underground stations on several
> different lines close by.

This is one thing I like about it - the multiple possible tube lines
mean that more people stand a chance of it not being horribly inconvenient.

> [...] food problems [...]

As another data point, my food was rather good, arrived promptly, was
the right temperature, tasted good and was a fair price (fish pie
served with roasted root vegetables, 6.25).  The last time I ate there
the food was fine too (jacket potato with guacamole).  So it does all
sound rather variable.

> [...] assurances from the management that they won't fuck up again [...]

I will try to get hold of the management this week and see if I can
find out what the situation is.

Thanks to everyone for the feedback so far.

Kake

Re: Pub feedback please

[Nicholas Clark]

On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 03:40:18PM +0100, Lusercop wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 09:33:36PM +0100, Kate L Pugh wrote:
> > Hello.  Could people who were at the social meet at the Green Man last
> > night let me know what they thought of it?  On or off list as you feel
> > appropriate.  In particular I would like to know whether you would
> > complain if we went there again, and if so which aspects annoyed you.
> > I am aware that there was some problem with beer, but not of the details.
> 
> Thursday night was not the first time I've been to that pub and they've run
> out of beer. Personally I didn't have the same problems with food that others
> seemed to. It is also quite out of my way too, but I care less about that. I
> don't think I've ever had problems with the food there.

I find it more convenient than either the Calthorpe Arms, the Lamb or
the Star of Belgravia - it has underground stations on several different
lines close by.

I didn't have any food, so don't have any direct experience of that.
Before I was aware of others' food problems my view was that if we can get
assurances from the management that they won't fuck up again then I'd
be happy to go back.

(I'd class running out of beer on a non-exceptional night a fuck up)

However, if we did go back and they did run out of beer again, then no, we
should never touch them again with a barge pole.

Nicholas Clark

Re: Pub feedback please

[Lusercop]

On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 09:33:36PM +0100, Kate L Pugh wrote:
> Hello.  Could people who were at the social meet at the Green Man last
> night let me know what they thought of it?  On or off list as you feel
> appropriate.  In particular I would like to know whether you would
> complain if we went there again, and if so which aspects annoyed you.
> I am aware that there was some problem with beer, but not of the details.

Thursday night was not the first time I've been to that pub and they've run
out of beer. Personally I didn't have the same problems with food that others
seemed to. It is also quite out of my way too, but I care less about that. I
don't think I've ever had problems with the food there.

-- 
Lusercop.net - LARTing Lusers everywhere since 2002

Re: Pub feedback please

[Natalie Ford]

On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 15:21:44 +0100, Natalie Ford wrote:
> I was not there, but have you seen:
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/mstevens/43441.html
> :-/

Damn.  Note to self:

a) check if an entry is froends only before forwarding it.  Sorry 
mstevens...  :(
b) check the To address befor hitting send...  :(
c) don't send email when you are this ill...

Sorry...

Re: Pub feedback please

[Natalie Ford]

On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:33:36 +0100, Kate L Pugh wrote:
> Hello.  Could people who were at the social meet at the Green Man last
> night let me know what they thought of it?  On or off list as you feel
> appropriate.  In particular I would like to know whether you would
> complain if we went there again, and if so which aspects annoyed you.
> I am aware that there was some problem with beer, but not of the details.

I was not there, but have you seen:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/mstevens/43441.html
:-/

N x

Re: Pub feedback please

[alex]

On Sat, 6 Sep 2003, Joel Bernstein wrote:
> It seemed to lack ambience, and the function-room-cum-toilet-corridor
> was less than ideal IMO.
Someone else wrote:
Of course this is not necessarily the fault of the pub as the earliest
people to arrive chose to sit in that area


As the first person in the room I sat in the enclose area because it was 
the place most easily seen from the doorway.

I have no sympathy with Joel who could have suggested to his friends that 
they didn't stand in the corridor but could have sat somewhere else - or 
leant against the bar, or something.   ;-)

SO how much is Kendo then? I wonder if the Cambridge games shop has it
and is open today (Sunday)?
Alex

Re: Pub feedback please

[Jonathan Stowe]

On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Kate L Pugh wrote:

> Hello.  Could people who were at the social meet at the Green Man last
> night let me know what they thought of it?

On the whole I quite liked the place.  I think the issues that other
people have raised (the running out of beer and losing food orders) were
symptomatic of a more general (and possibly isolated) disorganization on
the part of the management of the establishment as it did appear that the
staff changed their shift halfway through the evening, when they already
seemed understaffed: in my limited experience of running a bar I would
suggest this would tend to lead to both of the aforementioned problems.

Actually the beer running out was a bit of a blessing as it turned out
they had some quite nice Belgian bottled stuff which otherwise I wouldn't
have noticed.

I didn't eat as mixing drinking and eating is a heresy in my world view,
so I can't comment on the food.

On the whole I would go back but I do like to see other pubs too.

/J\

Re: Pub feedback please

[darrow]

imagine a world where budwieser is your only choice.

Re: Pub feedback please

[Jonathan Stowe]

On Sat, 6 Sep 2003, Joel Bernstein wrote:
>
> It seemed to lack ambience, and the function-room-cum-toilet-corridor
> was less than ideal IMO.
>

Of course this is not necessarily the fault of the pub as the earliest
people to arrive chose to sit in that area in the face of a whole room to
sit in ( not that I blame them either as the little enclosed area does
have some attractions) but we could have sat anywhere down there.

> Not even a particularly convenient location (from my POV).
>

It's very convenient for me at them moment.

/J\

Re: Pub feedback please

[Joel Bernstein]

On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 09:33:36PM +0100, Kate L Pugh wrote:
> Hello.  Could people who were at the social meet at the Green Man last
> night let me know what they thought of it?  On or off list as you feel
> appropriate.  In particular I would like to know whether you would
> complain if we went there again, and if so which aspects annoyed you.
> I am aware that there was some problem with beer, but not of the details.
> 
> I am also always interested in suggestions of new pubs to try, and
> offers to organise emergency meets at them.

My food wasn't very good at all. Others complained of waiting >1 hour
for theirs. I only drank Strongbow+Black, so can't judge the beer.

It seemed to lack ambience, and the function-room-cum-toilet-corridor
was less than ideal IMO.

Not even a particularly convenient location (from my POV).

/joel

Re: Pub feedback please

[David Cantrell]

Kate L Pugh wrote:

Hello.  Could people who were at the social meet at the Green Man last
night let me know what they thought of it?  On or off list as you feel
appropriate.  In particular I would like to know whether you would
complain if we went there again, and if so which aspects annoyed you.
I am aware that there was some problem with beer, but not of the details.
I was quite happy with it, despite the beer running out.  I didn't try 
the food.  It was good that we could hear ourselves talk and weren't 
horribly crowded.

--
David Cantrell |  Reprobate  | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david
  emacs: for a brave GNU Word
 -- cdevers, in #london.pm

Re: [PUB] Meet Jos on Sat

[Leon Brocard]

Leon Brocard sent the following bits through the ether:

> Where: The Window Castle

Window Castle? I must be going mad. Windsor Castle, as in the URL of
course.

Leon
-- 
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
scribot.http://www.scribot.com/

... I'm sorry, Reality is not in service at this time

Re: pub recommendation near Northampton sq

[David Cantrell]

On Monday, June 23, 2003 13:47 +0100 Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

So there I was wandering down Goswell Road and this bloke comes up
to me and asks if I want to be in a photo shoot. They are taking
a photo for a BASF ad campaign that evening and one of the "band"
has dropped out. I was paid a desultory amount but got very drunk
on cheap lager.
So is that really your hair?

--
David Cantrell

Re: pub recommendation near Northampton sq

[Dave Cross]

On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 08:33:20AM -0400, muppet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>  
> On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 08:03 AM, Dominic Mitchell wrote: 
> 
> 
> > Dave Cross wrote: 
> > Indeed; I'm sure you never find people like this there anymore.  
> > ;-) 
> > 
> >  
>  
> "I wasn't in a heavy metal band." so what, were you just standing in 
> for a guy that was in the band but didn't have as cool a haircut?  or 
> was this the boys' night out to Glamour Shots?  ;-)

So there I was wandering down Goswell Road and this bloke comes up
to me and asks if I want to be in a photo shoot. They are taking
a photo for a BASF ad campaign that evening and one of the "band"
has dropped out. I was paid a desultory amount but got very drunk
on cheap lager.

The headline for the ad was something like "Metal by Chain Gang, Metal
Tape by BASF". The only other one I remember from the series was a
picture of a mod with his scooter. That was for chrome tape.

The ad was all over the Underground for a few weeks. It's a bloody
strange feeling seeing yourself larger than life size looking down
at you.

Dave...

-- 
  Ridicule is nothing to be scared of

Re: pub recommendation near Northampton sq

[muppet]

On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 08:03 AM, Dominic Mitchell wrote:

Dave Cross wrote:
Indeed; I'm sure you never find people like this there anymore.  ;-)



"I wasn't in a heavy metal band." so what, were you just standing in for a guy that was in the band but didn't have as cool a haircut?  or was this the boys' night out to Glamour Shots?  ;-)

Re: pub recommendation near Northampton sq

[Dominic Mitchell]

Dave Cross wrote:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 09:25:33AM +, Martin Bower ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

anyone know any decent pubs within walking distance of City University ?

http://www.ukuug.org/events/TimOReilly/


There's the Pheasant & Firkin on Goswell Road just south of the
University.
On reflection it seems that I spent most of my two years at City
University drinking in the SU Bars. Mind you, the area has changed
a lot in the last 20 years.
Indeed; I'm sure you never find people like this there anymore.  ;-)



-Dom

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Re: pub recommendation near Northampton sq

[Dave Cross]

On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 09:25:33AM +, Martin Bower ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> anyone know any decent pubs within walking distance of City University ?
> 
> http://www.ukuug.org/events/TimOReilly/

There's the Pheasant & Firkin on Goswell Road just south of the
University.

On reflection it seems that I spent most of my two years at City
University drinking in the SU Bars. Mind you, the area has changed
a lot in the last 20 years.

Dave...

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Re: pub recommendation near Northampton sq

[Ben]

On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 10:38:49AM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 09:25:33AM +, Martin Bower wrote:
> >anyone know any decent pubs within walking distance of City University ?
> >http://www.ukuug.org/events/TimOReilly/
> 
> Only the Wenlock, and if there are more than about four of you it's not
> really suitable.
> 
> http://grault.net/cgi-bin/grubstreet.pl?Wenlock_Arms,_N1_7TA

I like the Old Red Lion, which is here:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=531475&y=183099&z=1&sv=531250,183250&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf

Upper St is also not too much further than the Red Lion, although I find many
of the pubs up there to be Not Great.

Ben

Re: pub recommendation near Northampton sq

[Roger Burton West]

On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 09:25:33AM +, Martin Bower wrote:
>anyone know any decent pubs within walking distance of City University ?
>http://www.ukuug.org/events/TimOReilly/

Only the Wenlock, and if there are more than about four of you it's not
really suitable.

http://grault.net/cgi-bin/grubstreet.pl?Wenlock_Arms,_N1_7TA

Roger

Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room

[Natalie Ford]

On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 23:18:40 +0100, Kate L Pugh wrote:
> On the way home I remembered the Green Man, which is near Great
> Portland Street and Regent's Park tubes, and has a huge function room
> in the basement that they've been quite happy to reserve for even
> quite small groups in the past.
>   http://www.fancyapint.com/thepubs/pub688.htm
>   http://streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=528915&y=182163
> Food is served in the evenings, reasonable menu from what I remember.
> Is it worth me investigating further?

I'd say so!

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Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room

[Cal Henderson]

At 15:37 GMT 04.04.03, Paul Mison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: UKBloggers met there in February, so evidently it's doing something 
: right for the 'large groups of people thing'. (Not that I was there, 
: but I didn't see any complaints about it in the subsequent days.)

It was reasonable for 50 of us, though they didn't open the downstairs 
bar so we had to go up and down the stairs alot :|

--cal

Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room

[Jason Clifford]

On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Paul Mison wrote:

> UKBloggers met there in February, so evidently it's doing something 
> right for the 'large groups of people thing'. (Not that I was there, 
> but I didn't see any complaints about it in the subsequent days.)

On occassion when GLLUG has met there we've seen other fairly large groups 
of people too. On one occassion we shared the downstairs with a Pratchett 
fan meeting (we really should have tried a few tortoise sacrifices to wind 
them up ;) )

Jason Clifford
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Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room

[Paul Mison]

On 04/04/2003 at 09:05 +0100, Jason Clifford wrote:
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Kate L Pugh wrote:

 On the way home I remembered the Green Man, which is near Great
 Portland Street and Regent's Park tubes, and has a huge function room
We use the Green Man for beer after GLLUG meetings and it is very good.

I'd recommend giving it a try.
UKBloggers met there in February, so evidently it's doing something 
right for the 'large groups of people thing'. (Not that I was there, 
but I didn't see any complaints about it in the subsequent days.)

On the other hand, maybe Messrs Wistow and Batistoni will regard it as tainted.

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Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room

[S Watkins]

Alex McLintock wrote:
The discussions London.pm has about pub venues mirrors London Science 
Fiction fandom's problems too.
We recently vacated the Silver Cross pub on Whitehall because of double 
bookings, rude staff, lack of beer due to pipes being cut, and running 
out of beer.
We've recently moved to the Barley Mow near Barbican, and yesterday.

they ran out of beer.

Alex McLintock
So, to recap..

Silver Cross pub to which you attended:  ran out of beer

Barley Mow pub to which you attended: ran out of beer

Now, forgive me here, but does anyone else see a vague connection between the 
fact that the pub runs out of beer, and the fact that Alex was there? *grin*

Maybe that's the "silver bullet" to our hosting troubles. Wherever it is, we 
just have to make sure that Alex is the "designated driver" for the night! :)

Not popular? No, didn't think so!

Steve
===

Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room

[Roger Burton West]

On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 02:20:25PM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote:

>We've recently moved to the Barley Mow near Barbican, and yesterday.
>they ran out of beer.

Bearing in mind that we have roughly doubled the number of people
turning up, each of the months we've gone there, as people switch over.

Roger

Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room

[Lusercop]

On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 12:23:26PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> Please stop drinking the LUser kool aid.
> It is not "working". It has roughly half service to 60% of the stations.

It works for me. ;-)

For the first time in 2 months, I can get from Bethnal Green to Shepherd's
Bush in a sensible amount of time.

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Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room

[Lusercop]

On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 11:51:21AM +0100, S Watkins wrote:
> Lusercop wrote:
> >One time we had an ASRLon there, they ran out of beer. :-(
> ..and that is a problem why?

Because there was no more beer!!

> When people ask you how the meeting went, you can honestly, with pride and 
> a smile on your face, reply:
> "We drank the bar dry!"

We did think of this at the time. :-)

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Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room

[Alex McLintock]

At 11:23 04/04/03, you wrote:
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 09:05:53AM +0100, Jason Clifford wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Kate L Pugh wrote:
> > On the way home I remembered the Green Man, which is near Great
> > Portland Street and Regent's Park tubes, and has a huge function room
> > in the basement that they've been quite happy to reserve for even
> > quite small groups in the past.
> We use the Green Man for beer after GLLUG meetings and it is very good.
> I'd recommend giving it a try.
One time we had an ASRLon there, they ran out of beer. :-(
The discussions London.pm has about pub venues mirrors London Science 
Fiction fandom's problems too.
We recently vacated the Silver Cross pub on Whitehall because of double 
bookings, rude staff, lack of beer due to pipes being cut, and running out 
of beer.
We've recently moved to the Barley Mow near Barbican, and yesterday.

they ran out of beer.

Alex McLintock



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Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room

[Nicholas Clark]

On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 11:50:16AM +0100, Lusercop wrote:

> It wasn't a particularly big meet, for once. Oh, and there's the minor
> annoyance of the circle/h&c/metropolitan lines and the amazing slowness
> through central london
> 
> Hooray for the Central Line (now it's working again)!!!
> 
> -- 
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Please stop drinking the LUser kool aid.
It is not "working". It has roughly half service to 60% of the stations.

$ perl -le 'print 0.6 * 0.6'
0.36

Nicholas Clark

Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room

[Roger Burton West]

On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 11:45:12AM +0100, Adam C Auden wrote:
>On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Lusercop wrote:
>> One time we had an ASRLon there, they ran out of beer. :-(
>Ah, but were they given fair warning of the thirst of bofhs?  If so, then
>very well done to the attendees in question. :)

There's a role-playing game group that meets there every Monday night.
In spite of this, they still run out of beer on a Monday once every few
weeks.

R

Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room

[Lusercop]

On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 11:45:12AM +0100, Adam C Auden wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Lusercop wrote:
> > One time we had an ASRLon there, they ran out of beer. :-(
> Ah, but were they given fair warning of the thirst of bofhs?  If so, then
> very well done to the attendees in question. :)

It wasn't a particularly big meet, for once. Oh, and there's the minor
annoyance of the circle/h&c/metropolitan lines and the amazing slowness
through central london

Hooray for the Central Line (now it's working again)!!!

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Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room

[S Watkins]

Lusercop wrote:
One time we had an ASRLon there, they ran out of beer. :-(
..and that is a problem why?

When people ask you how the meeting went, you can honestly, with pride and a 
smile on your face, reply:

"We drank the bar dry!"

You wouldn't have much of a problem getting full attendances to future meets 
with that sort of testimonial! *grin*

Steve
==

Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room

[Adam C Auden]

On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Lusercop wrote:

> One time we had an ASRLon there, they ran out of beer. :-(

Ah, but were they given fair warning of the thirst of bofhs?  If so, then
very well done to the attendees in question. :)

A.

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Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room

[Lusercop]

On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 09:05:53AM +0100, Jason Clifford wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Kate L Pugh wrote:
> > On the way home I remembered the Green Man, which is near Great
> > Portland Street and Regent's Park tubes, and has a huge function room
> > in the basement that they've been quite happy to reserve for even
> > quite small groups in the past.
> We use the Green Man for beer after GLLUG meetings and it is very good.
> I'd recommend giving it a try.

One time we had an ASRLon there, they ran out of beer. :-(

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Re: [PUB] Green Man, Marylebone, big function room

[Jason Clifford]

On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Kate L Pugh wrote:

> On the way home I remembered the Green Man, which is near Great
> Portland Street and Regent's Park tubes, and has a huge function room
> in the basement that they've been quite happy to reserve for even
> quite small groups in the past.

We use the Green Man for beer after GLLUG meetings and it is very good.

I'd recommend giving it a try.

Jason Clifford
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Re: [PUB] Report on The Windmill

[Lusercop]

On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 02:59:09PM +, Kate L Pugh wrote:
> sandwich (what I had) was worth the price. lusercop, please report on
> the veggie food; hitherto, please report on the sausage and mash. 

It was very good. :-) To be honest, though I had my mind on the domain
stuff that I'm working on at the time, the food was a minor distraction
but was nice.

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Re: [PUB] Report on The Windmill

[Simon Batistoni]

On 28/02/03 14:59 +, Kate L Pugh wrote:
> Food: the evening menu is not large, but of good quality.  There is only
> one vegetarian option - grilled halloumi sandwich (GBP4.95) and no vegan
> options other than chips, though you might be able to convince them to
> give you some (rather nice) side salad with it.  The other menu options
> are hot sandwiches at GBP5.95 - steak, chicken, beef burger or lamb
> burger - or shepherds' pie (GBP6.50), sausage and mash (GBP6.50), fish
> and chips (GBP8.50).  So a little expensive, but certainly the chicken
> sandwich (what I had) was worth the price.  mbm, please report on the
> veggie food; hitherto, please report on the sausage and mash. 

The Sausage and Mash was great, and I heartily recommend it. Really,
really good sausages, the mash was creamy and fluffy, and the onion
gravy was perfect.

I also thought that the Fish & Chips looked good as it went past at
various intervals, but 8.50 is kinda steep.

Re: [PUB] Report on The Windmill

[Kate L Pugh]

On Fri 28 Feb 2003, David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They have a restaurant upstairs which - presumably - has a wider selection,
> and I'd be surprised if they refused to serve that stuff to us in the
> function room.

I've phoned and asked; they'll need to check and will get back to me
early next week.

Kake
 

Re: [PUB] Report on The Windmill

[David Cantrell]

On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 02:59:09PM +, Kate L Pugh wrote:

> Food: the evening menu is not large, but of good quality.  There is only
> one vegetarian option - grilled halloumi sandwich (GBP4.95) and no vegan
> options other than chips, though you might be able to convince them to
> give you some (rather nice) side salad with it.

They have a restaurant upstairs which - presumably - has a wider selection,
and I'd be surprised if they refused to serve that stuff to us in the
function room.

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Re: [PUB] Report on The Windmill

[Mark Fowler]

Kake wibbled:

> Disabled access: There are three steps down into the function room.  The
> toilets are on the first floor, up a staircase that has one turn on it.
> I didn't notice handrail, sorry.

There's a handrail on both sets of steps, both those going upstairs and
the steps going into the function room.

> As for getting there, I think Mark was the only person who got lost.  I
> went there from Piccadilly Circus station, not a bad walk, not too far
> (but then I quite like walking).

It's shorter from Oxford Circus imho.  Not far at all and only a total
idiot that forgot to look at a map before heading out would get lost.

Mark.

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Re: [PUB] Spread Eagle, NW1

[robin szemeti]

On Tuesday 28 January 2003 13:49, Paul Makepeace wrote:

> > Ah, but most of us (being programmers) can do the maths and know
> > that in the long term you will always money.
>
> Money as a verb - what's the secret of your success Dave?

there was an implicit 'lose' in there. these days whenver people mention 
money it is taken as read that you will be losing it.

q.v. dotcom revolution.

-- 
Robin Szemeti

Re: [PUB] Fitzroy Tavern, Fitzrovia

[Bob Walker]

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Alex McLintock wrote:

>
> It will also be worth going to Picocon at Imperial College on the 22 Feb
> which is also the same weekend as Redemption - a Blake's Seven Babylon Five
> convention *near* London, but not in it

i noticed they clashed, at least we didnt clash with micrcon.

> PICOCON ADVERT

> This year Picocon 20 is on the 22nd February 2003 to be held at Imperial
> College, London, UK. We have two Guests of Honour: Jack Cohen and Gwyneth
> Jones.
> There will also be other events throughout the day, such as networked games
> and a pub-style quiz, and we will be showing a film in the evening. Picocon
> membership is £2.00 to ICSF members, £5.00 concessions (other students,
> DHSS, OAP), and £8.00 for everyone else. Admission to the film only is £3.50.
> For more information please see our web page at:
> http://www.su.ic.ac.uk/icsf/social/events/picocon_ 20.html or email me. In

http://www.su.ic.ac.uk/icsf/social/events/picocon_20.html
will be more helpful.

> particular, the web page will be updated as soon as we've confirmed the
> film we're showing. Alternatively, please feel free to contact me if you
> have any questions."
>

the rumour is that the film will be 12 monkeys.
also the main reason to coem of course is to drink cheap beer. but i could
be biased. :)

The rumour is also that picocon will have Peter F Hamiliton next year.

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Re: [PUB] Spread Eagle, NW1

[Dave Cross]

From: Paul Makepeace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 1/28/03 1:49:53 PM

>On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 02:29:56AM -0800, Dave Cross wrote:
>> 
>> From: Peter Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 1/28/03 10:01:38 AM
>> 
>> > What's wrong with fruit machines? Some of us (well, 
>> > perhaps just me) are attracted to the beautiful, 
>> > hypnotic lights, and the voices that whisper "Play with
>> > me, play with me", and win frequent, 'moral' victories 
>> > over them, while learning the true value of money. 
>> 
>> Ah, but most of us (being programmers) can do the maths 
>> and know that in the long term you will always money.
>
> Money as a verb - what's the secret of your success Dave?

It's a good job that publishers employ proof readers and copy
editors :)

"... you will always _lose_ money."

Dave...
[just happy that he wrote "maths" and not "math"]
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Re: [PUB] Spread Eagle, NW1

[Paul Makepeace]

On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 02:29:56AM -0800, Dave Cross wrote:
> 
> From: Peter Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 1/28/03 10:01:38 AM
> 
> > What's wrong with fruit machines? Some of us (well, perhaps
> 
> > just me) are attracted to the beautiful, hypnotic lights, 
> > and the voices that whisper "Play with me, play with me", 
> > and win frequent, 'moral' victories over them, while 
> > learning the true value of money. 
> 
> Ah, but most of us (being programmers) can do the maths and know
> that in the long term you will always money.

Money as a verb - what's the secret of your success Dave?

P

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Re: [PUB] Fitzroy Tavern, Fitzrovia

[Alex McLintock]

At 00:05 28/01/03, David H. Adler wrote:

On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:37:57AM +, Kate L Pugh wrote:
> A suggestion from Ben - the Fitzroy Tavern.  It's another Sam Smith's
> pub, but Ben says the beer is decent, so I'll leave him to defend that
> point of view.  It's on Charlotte Street, parallel to Tottenham Court Road:

Since you guys are in england, I suppose you wouldn't know this, but
it's also the location of the monthly Doctor Who meet. :-)

dha, likes Sam Smith beers, actually.



Didn't know there was one. I go to the regular science fiction book fan 
meeting which happens on the first Thursday of the month. (Bit of an 
irritating coincidence that).

It will also be worth going to Picocon at Imperial College on the 22 Feb 
which is also the same weekend as Redemption - a Blake's Seven Babylon Five 
convention *near* London, but not in it

There are several media gatherings which I don't really participate in 
including a reasonably regular Star Trek gathering which I heard was in 
Pages Bar, and there is a reasonably active Star Wars fanclub Delta Force 
(URL forgotten)

Del Cotter has started to collate UK based SF fan gatherings which may 
include a Dr Who pub meet. Try news:uk.people.sf-fans or 
http://www.branta.demon.co.uk/

PS I have lots of fantasy books which need reviewing for DiverseBooks.com too.

Alex McLintock



PICOCON ADVERT



This year Picocon 20 is on the 22nd February 2003 to be held at Imperial 
College, London, UK. We have two Guests of Honour: Jack Cohen and Gwyneth 
Jones.
There will also be other events throughout the day, such as networked games 
and a pub-style quiz, and we will be showing a film in the evening. Picocon 
membership is £2.00 to ICSF members, £5.00 concessions (other students, 
DHSS, OAP), and £8.00 for everyone else. Admission to the film only is £3.50.
For more information please see our web page at: 
http://www.su.ic.ac.uk/icsf/social/events/picocon_ 20.html or email me. In 
particular, the web page will be updated as soon as we've confirmed the 
film we're showing. Alternatively, please feel free to contact me if you 
have any questions."



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Re: [PUB] Spread Eagle, NW1

[Joel Bernstein]

On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 10:01:38AM +, Peter Sergeant wrote:
> > I liked this pub. No music, few fruit machines, good (Young's) beer
> > including Winter Warmer on tap and (bottled, of course) Double Chocolate
> > Stout. The Hamster race was bizarre, to say the least, but I liked the pub.
> > Oh, and it's only about 4 minutes stagger from Wagamama, which was closed by
> > the time we got there.
> 
> What's wrong with fruit machines? Some of us (well, perhaps just me) are
> attracted to the beautiful, hypnotic lights, and the voices that whisper
> "Play with me, play with me", and win frequent, 'moral' victories over
> them, while learning the true value of money. 

They flash and dazzle me, and they're always located on the edge of my
peripheral vision. I've no comment on the gambling aspect, I just dislike
the silly noises they make and the flashing.

/joel

Re: [PUB] Spread Eagle, NW1

[the hatter]

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Peter Sergeant wrote:

> > I liked this pub. No music, few fruit machines, good (Young's) beer
> > including Winter Warmer on tap and (bottled, of course) Double Chocolate
> > Stout. The Hamster race was bizarre, to say the least, but I liked the pub.
> > Oh, and it's only about 4 minutes stagger from Wagamama, which was closed by
> > the time we got there.
>
> What's wrong with fruit machines? Some of us (well, perhaps just me) are
> attracted to the beautiful, hypnotic lights, and the voices that whisper
> "Play with me, play with me",

Such stimuli are available from several other sources, at the right kind
of meet.

> and win frequent, 'moral' victories over them, while learning the true
> value of money.

Not so sure about the moral element of them, though.


the hatter

Re: [PUB] Spread Eagle, NW1

[Dave Cross]

From: Peter Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 1/28/03 10:01:38 AM

> What's wrong with fruit machines? Some of us (well, perhaps

> just me) are attracted to the beautiful, hypnotic lights, 
> and the voices that whisper "Play with me, play with me", 
> and win frequent, 'moral' victories over them, while 
> learning the true value of money. 

Ah, but most of us (being programmers) can do the maths and know
that in the long term you will always money.

This pretty much destroys any interest in playing :)

Dave...
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Re: [PUB] Spread Eagle, NW1

[Ben]

On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 09:22:39AM +, Joel Bernstein wrote:
> 
> The pub is on the corner of Parkway and Albert Rd, about 4 or 5 minutes walk
> from the tube. Plenty of seating, friendly bar-staff. I saw 3 or 4 different
> lagers, Guinness, 3 or 4 bitters on tap, and of course Double Chocolate
> Stout.

And, of course, a london.pm'er behind the bar!
 
> I don't think it would be suitable for a pubmeet (possibly too far North, no
> food, didn't see a function room, and the toilets are downstairs (not good
> for disabled people) but I recommend it as a nice place to drink in Camden.

I agree. It also can get very full. Camden is probably too far North for a 
pubmeet. Which is a shame, as there are some good pubs outside the Circle Line.

Ben

Re: [PUB] Spread Eagle, NW1

[Lusercop]

On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 09:22:39AM +, Joel Bernstein wrote:
> The pub is on the corner of Parkway and Albert Rd, about 4 or 5 minutes walk
 St.

Only problem for me is that it's the pub where my parents drink, and it
used to be a whole lot nastier than it is now :-)

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Re: [PUB] Spread Eagle, NW1

[Peter Sergeant]

> I liked this pub. No music, few fruit machines, good (Young's) beer
> including Winter Warmer on tap and (bottled, of course) Double Chocolate
> Stout. The Hamster race was bizarre, to say the least, but I liked the pub.
> Oh, and it's only about 4 minutes stagger from Wagamama, which was closed by
> the time we got there.

What's wrong with fruit machines? Some of us (well, perhaps just me) are
attracted to the beautiful, hypnotic lights, and the voices that whisper
"Play with me, play with me", and win frequent, 'moral' victories over
them, while learning the true value of money. 

+Pete

Re: [PUB] Fitzroy Tavern, Fitzrovia

[David H. Adler]

On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:37:57AM +, Kate L Pugh wrote:
> A suggestion from Ben - the Fitzroy Tavern.  It's another Sam Smith's
> pub, but Ben says the beer is decent, so I'll leave him to defend that
> point of view.  It's on Charlotte Street, parallel to Tottenham Court Road:

Since you guys are in england, I suppose you wouldn't know this, but
it's also the location of the monthly Doctor Who meet. :-)

dha, likes Sam Smith beers, actually.

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- Captain Scarlet

Re: [PUB] Fitzroy Tavern, Fitzrovia

[Marna Gilligan]

On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Marna Gilligan wrote:
 
> In a bizarre confluence of coincidence the gods of chaos have dictated
> that I'll be meeting up with some folks there this evening, so I'll cast a
> critical eye over it (and have a better look at the downstairs) and report
> back later. I *may* even be forced to test the beer

Nope; that didn't work. I got there somewhat late and they'd stopped
serving food so we all ran away to get some food instead. I *tried* to
have another look at downstairs but it was very creepy; black drapes over
all the doors and odd noises coming from within. I'm pretty sure that this
isn't a standard fixture, though.

I did look at the menu, though, before they told us that they couldn't
feed us. Very pub-foodish. Starters 3 - 5ukp - wedges and cheezie-things
and whatnot. Mains 6 - 8ukp - Burgers, curry, pasta, fish. Some baguettes.
Not a great veggie selection, and very little for vegans.

It seemed to be populated with a random mixture of people; I didn't notice
anyone being too obnoxious. It was full and noisy, but we were in the main
bar and possibly as noisy as anyone.

Oh, and the stairs aren't the most useable (but not the worst stairs in
the world either).

Hope all that helps. It's not the bestest pub-review.


Marna

Re: [PUB] Fitzroy Tavern, Fitzrovia

[Marna Gilligan]

On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Kate L Pugh wrote:

> On Mon 27 Jan 2003, Joel Bernstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The Fitzroy Tavern is /horrible/ [...] noisy, intrusively flashing
> > fruit machines, full of people in reebok classics trainers [...]
> 
> How much of this would still apply if we booked the function room?  I
> mean, obviously the people in trainers wouldn't, but I can't work out
> whether the "noisy" is meant to apply to the fruit machines, and you
> don't say whether the fruit machines are in the function room as well
> as upstairs.

I didn't find it to be over-trainerish, and fruit machines are a generic
pub-evil. The staff seemed fairly nice, at least when I was there. It's
noisy upstairs, in the way that any small middle'o'London pub *will* be.

I've only been in there a few times, though, and pub-character can be
vastly different dependiong on day and time.

In a bizarre confluence of coincidence the gods of chaos have dictated
that I'll be meeting up with some folks there this evening, so I'll cast a
critical eye over it (and have a better look at the downstairs) and report
back later. I *may* even be forced to test the beer
 

Marna

Re: [PUB] The Windmill, Mayfair

[David Cantrell]

On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 12:13:37PM +, Kate L Pugh wrote:
> Spotted this on grubstreet and just phoned them up.
> 
>   http://grault.net/cgi-bin/grubstreet.pl?Windmill,_W1S_2AT
>   http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=529001&Y=180921&A=Y&Z=1

It's a jolly good pub.

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Re: [PUB] Fitzroy Tavern, Fitzrovia

[Kate L Pugh]

On Mon 27 Jan 2003, Joel Bernstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Fitzroy Tavern is /horrible/ [...] noisy, intrusively flashing
> fruit machines, full of people in reebok classics trainers [...]

How much of this would still apply if we booked the function room?  I
mean, obviously the people in trainers wouldn't, but I can't work out
whether the "noisy" is meant to apply to the fruit machines, and you
don't say whether the fruit machines are in the function room as well
as upstairs.

(It does sound from what Marna said that the function room would be
too small in any case, though.)

Kake

Re: [PUB] Fitzroy Tavern, Fitzrovia

[iwilliams]

Quoting Joel Bernstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:37:57AM +, Kate L Pugh wrote:
> > A suggestion from Ben - the Fitzroy Tavern.  It's another Sam Smith's
> > pub, but Ben says the beer is decent, so I'll leave him to defend that
> > point of view.  It's on Charlotte Street, parallel to Tottenham Court
> Road:
> >   
> >   http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=529522&Y=181615&A=Y&Z=1
> > 
> > and it's kinda famous:
> > 
> >   http://www.professorharbottle.co.uk/pub/londonwestend/fitzroy.html
> >   http://www.pennies-from-heaven.org/
> > 
> > (also
> >  
> http://www.museum-
london.org.uk/MOLsite/exhibits/creative/artistloc/1920/1920_fitzroy.html
> > but I can't get to it at the moment)
> > 
> > I phoned them and they do have a function room, in the basement, with
> > toilets on the same level, but it costs 25 quid to book (and another
> > 25 quid if we want the bar open) and the person I spoke to sounded
> > dubious about us getting more than 35 people in there.  They do a full
> > menu until 9:30pm.
> > 
> > Is this worth looking at?
> 
> No! No! A thousand times no! The Fitzroy Tavern is /horrible/ - rude
> australian barstaff, poor beer, noisy, intrusively flashing fruit machines,
> full of people in reebok classics trainers - I can't think of a less
> appealing pub to go to.
> 
I agree with Joel. The last time I was here was at an E2 meet - we did manage 
to get a table downstairs. despite the fact that E2 were the majority of 
customers downstairs, the bar staff insisted on having music, which none of us 
wanted.

Other gripes: keg beer (Sam Smiths), Non-existant (but advertised) food, 
unhelpful and rude bar staff.

Ivor.

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Re: [PUB] Fitzroy Tavern, Fitzrovia

[Tony Kennick]

On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:37:57 +
Kate L Pugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A suggestion from Ben - the Fitzroy Tavern.  It's another Sam Smith's
> pub, but Ben says the beer is decent, so I'll leave him to defend that
> point of view.  It's on Charlotte Street, parallel to Tottenham Court Road:
>   
>   http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=529522&Y=181615&A=Y&Z=1
> 
> and it's kinda famous:
> 
>   http://www.professorharbottle.co.uk/pub/londonwestend/fitzroy.html
>   http://www.pennies-from-heaven.org/
> 
> (also
>   
>http://www.museum-london.org.uk/MOLsite/exhibits/creative/artistloc/1920/1920_fitzroy.html
> but I can't get to it at the moment)
> 
> I phoned them and they do have a function room, in the basement, with
> toilets on the same level, but it costs 25 quid to book (and another
> 25 quid if we want the bar open) and the person I spoke to sounded
> dubious about us getting more than 35 people in there.  They do a full
> menu until 9:30pm.

The beer is indeed very well kept in there and last time I was in they
seemed to have the full SS's range, the food varied between very good
and pretty standard faire (and the veg soup tasted like I had opened a
cheep tin at home). Not been into the function room but glanced into in
on my way to the loos it might indeed be quite tight for 35.


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Re: [PUB] Fitzroy Tavern, Fitzrovia

[Ben]

On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:45:59AM +, Joel Bernstein wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:37:57AM +, Kate L Pugh wrote:
> > A suggestion from Ben - the Fitzroy Tavern.  It's another Sam Smith's
> > pub, but Ben says the beer is decent, so I'll leave him to defend that
> > point of view.  It's on Charlotte Street, parallel to Tottenham Court Road:
> >   
> >   http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=529522&Y=181615&A=Y&Z=1
> > 
> > and it's kinda famous:
> > 
> >   http://www.professorharbottle.co.uk/pub/londonwestend/fitzroy.html
> >   http://www.pennies-from-heaven.org/
> > 
> > (also
> >   
>http://www.museum-london.org.uk/MOLsite/exhibits/creative/artistloc/1920/1920_fitzroy.html
> > but I can't get to it at the moment)
> > 
> > I phoned them and they do have a function room, in the basement, with
> > toilets on the same level, but it costs 25 quid to book (and another
> > 25 quid if we want the bar open) and the person I spoke to sounded
> > dubious about us getting more than 35 people in there.  They do a full
> > menu until 9:30pm.
> > 
> > Is this worth looking at?
> 
> No! No! A thousand times no! The Fitzroy Tavern is /horrible/ - rude
> australian barstaff, poor beer, noisy, intrusively flashing fruit machines,
> full of people in reebok classics trainers - I can't think of a less
> appealing pub to go to.

You're obviously on the other side of the branch cut from me. I've been drinking in
there since about 1995, and I like it. It can get a bit packed, so a meet where
we didn't have the function room (and bar) probably would be less than optimal.

The OB is reasonably well-kept, though not excellently so. 

Horses for courses, I suppose.

Ben 

Re: [PUB] Fitzroy Tavern, Fitzrovia

[Marna Gilligan]

On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Kate L Pugh wrote:

> A suggestion from Ben - the Fitzroy Tavern.  It's another Sam Smith's
> pub, but Ben says the beer is decent, so I'll leave him to defend that
> point of view.  It's on Charlotte Street, parallel to Tottenham Court Road:
> 
> I phoned them and they do have a function room, in the basement, with
> toilets on the same level, but it costs 25 quid to book (and another
> 25 quid if we want the bar open) and the person I spoke to sounded
> dubious about us getting more than 35 people in there.  They do a full
> menu until 9:30pm.

>From what I remember the function room downstairs is small and poky, and
the table layout would make mingling difficult because a lot of the seats
are built in. I very much doubt that more than thirty five people would
fit in there, and it'd be squishy even then.

I've not idea what the beer is like, though, because last time I was there
I was drinking gin ;).


Marna

Re: [PUB] Fitzroy Tavern, Fitzrovia

[Joel Bernstein]

On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:37:57AM +, Kate L Pugh wrote:
> A suggestion from Ben - the Fitzroy Tavern.  It's another Sam Smith's
> pub, but Ben says the beer is decent, so I'll leave him to defend that
> point of view.  It's on Charlotte Street, parallel to Tottenham Court Road:
>   
>   http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=529522&Y=181615&A=Y&Z=1
> 
> and it's kinda famous:
> 
>   http://www.professorharbottle.co.uk/pub/londonwestend/fitzroy.html
>   http://www.pennies-from-heaven.org/
> 
> (also
>   
>http://www.museum-london.org.uk/MOLsite/exhibits/creative/artistloc/1920/1920_fitzroy.html
> but I can't get to it at the moment)
> 
> I phoned them and they do have a function room, in the basement, with
> toilets on the same level, but it costs 25 quid to book (and another
> 25 quid if we want the bar open) and the person I spoke to sounded
> dubious about us getting more than 35 people in there.  They do a full
> menu until 9:30pm.
> 
> Is this worth looking at?

No! No! A thousand times no! The Fitzroy Tavern is /horrible/ - rude
australian barstaff, poor beer, noisy, intrusively flashing fruit machines,
full of people in reebok classics trainers - I can't think of a less
appealing pub to go to.

/joel

Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

[Kate L Pugh]

On Fri 24 Jan 2003, Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=528497&Y=178425&A=Y&Z=1 
> 
> A Young's pub which *is* currently selling Winter Warmer and Double
> Chocolate stout. About 2.40 UKP for a pint of excellent Winter Warmer.
> 
> Does food up until 9pm - the usual selection of pub foods. [...]  No
> vegetarian options though apart from chees eand pickle sandwiches
> and baked potato (either plain or with cheese and/or beans) [...]
> Toilets are on the ground floor, [...]

I just phoned them and they do have a function room, on the same level
as the rest of the pub, no charge to hire it out.  Room for "40--50
people standing".  I asked if they thought they could fit 30 people
seated and they said yes.

Simon, could you pop in and take a look at the function room at some
point?  If you think it's big enough then that sounds like an excuse
for an emergency reconnaissance to me.

Kake

Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

[Nicholas Clark]

On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 07:49:10PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 11:25:54AM +, Simon Wistow wrote:

> > Downsides, I suspect, are  that people may think it's too far to walk
> > (being a whole 10 minutes from either Victoria or Sloane Square,
> > although there are buses that run near) and the no vege pub food.
> 
> As for it being too far south, we've used pubs that some people have
> considered to be too far north so I don't see what the problem is.

Hell, we've been south of the river before.
And people came.

Nicholas Clark

Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

[David Cantrell]

On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 11:25:54AM +, Simon Wistow wrote:

> This is the pub we went to last night after the tech meet.
> It's located here :
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=528497&Y=178425&A=Y&Z=1 
> 
> A Young's pub which *is* currently selling Winter Warmer and Double
> Chocolate stout. About 2.40 UKP for a pint of excellent Winter Warmer.

The Special was jolly good earlier in the evening, but a little ropey
later - perhaps it was just the end of the barrel or sumfink.  The bar
staff seemed a bit overwhelmed when we all turned up, so if we do use
this for socials we'd better warn the manglement.

> Downsides, I suspect, are  that people may think it's too far to walk
> (being a whole 10 minutes from either Victoria or Sloane Square,
> although there are buses that run near) and the no vege pub food.

As for it being too far south, we've used pubs that some people have
considered to be too far north so I don't see what the problem is.

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Re: Beer (was: Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria)

[Nicholas Clark]

On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 03:08:48PM +, Lusercop wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 05:46:03AM -0800, Dave Cross wrote:
> > Whilst the IPA is eminently drinkable, for a sublime drinking
> > experience I recommend Abbot Ale. Or, even better, a half pint

I like Abbot Ale.
There. that was useful for everyone to know.

> Most of the Greene King IPA I've ever had tasted watered down. I've never
> been that impressed with it. The Free Press in Cambridge used to have the
> right idea, they'd store it in their cellars for 4-5 weeks after getting
> it delivered before they'd break it open and start serving it. Of course,

This seems logical. After all, it's "India Pale Ale" and as I understand it
was originally brewed for export to India. I'm not sure how long it took to
ship beer to India, but presumably it was at least 4-5 weeks.

Nicholas Clark

Re: Beer (was: Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria)

[Lusercop]

On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 05:46:03AM -0800, Dave Cross wrote:
> Whilst the IPA is eminently drinkable, for a sublime drinking
> experience I recommend Abbot Ale. Or, even better, a half pint

Most of the Greene King IPA I've ever had tasted watered down. I've never
been that impressed with it. The Free Press in Cambridge used to have the
right idea, they'd store it in their cellars for 4-5 weeks after getting
it delivered before they'd break it open and start serving it. Of course,
when the pub changed ownership, the new owners went "Excellent, we've got
4 weeks worth of beer here, we don't have to order any for that long",
and these days, it tastes like water again.

It used to be a worthwhile pub.

Though I do like the Young's, though in general I prefer their bottled
stuff, unless they're serving Winter Warmer, and Fuller's. And, for the
other thread, the Sam Smiths crap is undrinkable.

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Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

[Joel Bernstein]

On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 02:14:56PM +, Mark Fowler wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Simon Wistow wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:18:40PM +, Paul Mison said:
> 
> > FWIW I prefer it when we reserve tables rather than get an entire room
> > to ourselves. I think it's probably just me but meeting up in our own
> > special rooms makes me feel quite seedy.
> 
> I think it's just you (though if anyone else feels this way feel free to
> correct me.)  I don't see the difference between reserving a table and a
> room.  Tell me about your relationship with your farter
> .

Tables > Room.

Oh, and my favourite Sigmund Freud joke:

Q: What's the definition of a Freudian slip?
A: When you say one thing and mean your mother.

*ba-boom-tsk*

/joel

Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

[Mark Fowler]

On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Simon Wistow wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:18:40PM +, Paul Mison said:
> > Traditionally the pubs london.pm visits for socials have been much
> > more central, and invariably within the Circle line. This isn't. Does
> > it have any great advantages over other candidates...

I'm of the opinion that we shouldn't be looking for _The_ best pub,
because no one pub will ever really make everyone happy.  Therefore I'm
looking for a few pubs that are quite good that we can move between and
hopefully this will satisfy the most people.

> Technically it *is* in the Circle line. Just. Or over it.

I would say Victoria is central, and it's easy for most people to get to.
It's not particularly near North London.  I don't see this being a
problem.

> FWIW I prefer it when we reserve tables rather than get an entire room
> to ourselves. I think it's probably just me but meeting up in our own
> special rooms makes me feel quite seedy.

I think it's just you (though if anyone else feels this way feel free to
correct me.)  I don't see the difference between reserving a table and a
room.  Tell me about your relationship with your farter
.

The problem without having a room of our own is that if the pub becomes
overly crowded, or there's something else going on in the pub that's a
problem then there's not much we can do.  There's a lot of us (over twice
as many as made it to the pub last night) and it's impracticle to move to
another pub, so there's no escape.  Having our own room sheilds us from
this somewhat.

Mark.

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Beer (was: Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria)

[Dave Cross]

From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 1/24/03 12:59:12 PM

> however while out walking the other day i discovered a
> green king (is that greene king?) who do great IPA, so i 
> need to scout that place out for friday lunchtime beer fun

It's "Greene King" (with three "e"s) and it's the beer that I
grew up on.

Whilst the IPA is eminently drinkable, for a sublime drinking
experience I recommend Abbot Ale. Or, even better, a half pint
of Abbot mixed with a bottle of St Edmunds.

Dave...
[who finds it slightly strange talking about beer when he no
longer drinks it]
-- 


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Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

[Tony Kennick]

On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:46:25 +
Joel Bernstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:45:20PM +, Simon Wistow wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:18:40PM +, Paul Mison said:
> > > Traditionally the pubs london.pm visits for socials have been much 
> > > more central, and invariably within the Circle line. This isn't. Does 
> > > it have any great advantages over other candidates, given its 
> > > downsides?
> > 
> > Technically it *is* in the Circle line. Just. Or over it.
> > 
> > The advantages I'd see are that it's a nice pub, not encumbered by
> > suits, cnuts or Sam Smith's beer. And I don't see it being much harder
> > to get to than the 3 Cups, Calthorpe Arms or even the Sun Tavern.
> >
> 
> Sam Smith's beer is generally crap,

*Bt* "Challenge!"

Old Brewery is one of the great session bitters of all time and their
beer is generally less over priced.

Although on second thought it is probably because I drink it in
Yorkshire as the brewery intends. I have a similar problem convincing
some of my friends in Sheffield about Ringwood and Badger as it has
mostly been mangled through a tight sparkler.


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Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

[Greg McCarroll]

On the subject of beer and not venues, 

* Joel Bernstein ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > 
> > The advantages I'd see are that it's a nice pub, not encumbered by
> > suits, cnuts or Sam Smith's beer. And I don't see it being much harder
> > to get to than the 3 Cups, Calthorpe Arms or even the Sun Tavern.
> >
> 
> Sam Smith's beer is generally crap,

the best you can probably have is the taddy porter, but after about 4
or so they start becoming way too overpowering in taste and not in a
good way (like the plum beer at the PoH)

>  but they do make a very good
> Weissbier. It's a good deal better than Hoegaarden, but of course
> nowhere near as good as even Erdinger.

i'd guess this beer also has the same scalability issues as the taddy
porter ;-)

the other problem with a SS pub is that once you decide you have had
enough of their beer you cant move to more pleasant wine/spirits, as
their `own brand' wines and spirits are pretty ghastly as well

since i've been working at broadcasting house i've been astonished by
how many SS pubs are around that place, there are pubs within 100
yards of each other both owned by SS, go another 100 yards and its
another SS pub, however while out walking the other day i discovered a
green king (is that greene king?) who do great IPA, so i need to scout
that place out for friday lunchtime beer fun

Greg

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Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

[Simon Wistow]

On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:18:40PM +, Paul Mison said:
> Traditionally the pubs london.pm visits for socials have been much 
> more central, and invariably within the Circle line. This isn't. Does 
> it have any great advantages over other candidates, given its 
> downsides?

Technically it *is* in the Circle line. Just. Or over it.

The advantages I'd see are that it's a nice pub, not encumbered by
suits, cnuts or Sam Smith's beer. And I don't see it being much harder
to get to than the 3 Cups, Calthorpe Arms or even the Sun Tavern.

I don't know how much of an issue it is to people that it's in the sacry
part of London to the West where Nu Meeja Agencies ph34r to tr34d and
not in Holborn (or 'MidTown' [tm] as I believe some estate agents are
calling it). How did people find getting there and getting home last
night? 

Of course I am biased in all of this because it's 20 meters from my
work :)


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Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

[Joel Bernstein]

On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:45:20PM +, Simon Wistow wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:18:40PM +, Paul Mison said:
> > Traditionally the pubs london.pm visits for socials have been much 
> > more central, and invariably within the Circle line. This isn't. Does 
> > it have any great advantages over other candidates, given its 
> > downsides?
> 
> Technically it *is* in the Circle line. Just. Or over it.
> 
> The advantages I'd see are that it's a nice pub, not encumbered by
> suits, cnuts or Sam Smith's beer. And I don't see it being much harder
> to get to than the 3 Cups, Calthorpe Arms or even the Sun Tavern.
>

Sam Smith's beer is generally crap, but they do make a very good
Weissbier. It's a good deal better than Hoegaarden, but of course
nowhere near as good as even Erdinger.

> I don't know how much of an issue it is to people that it's in the sacry
> part of London to the West where Nu Meeja Agencies ph34r to tr34d and
> not in Holborn (or 'MidTown' [tm] as I believe some estate agents are
> calling it). How did people find getting there and getting home last
> night? 

I'd prefer a pub near my work (western edge of Soho), but I'm sure I'll
be able to make it to Victoria.

> Of course I am biased in all of this because it's 20 meters from my
> work :)

Good, so you're nice and close when stuff breaks [or we need a WLAN] ;)

/joel

Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

[the hatter]

On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Paul Mison wrote:

> On 24/01/2003 at 11:25 +, Simon Wistow wrote:
> >This is the pub we went to last night after the tech meet.
> >
> >A Young's pub which *is* currently selling Winter Warmer and Double
> >Chocolate stout. About 2.40 UKP for a pint of excellent Winter Warmer.
>
> Traditionally the pubs london.pm visits for socials have been much
> more central, and invariably within the Circle line. This isn't. Does
> it have any great advantages over other candidates, given its
> downsides?

C'mon, it's only a 10 minute walk from the circle line.


the hatter

Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

[Paul Mison]

On 24/01/2003 at 11:25 +, Simon Wistow wrote:

This is the pub we went to last night after the tech meet.

A Young's pub which *is* currently selling Winter Warmer and Double
Chocolate stout. About 2.40 UKP for a pint of excellent Winter Warmer.


Traditionally the pubs london.pm visits for socials have been much 
more central, and invariably within the Circle line. This isn't. Does 
it have any great advantages over other candidates, given its 
downsides?

--
:: paul
:: we're like crystal

Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

[Simon Wistow]

On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 11:49:55AM +, Mark Fowler said:
> Did the pub have a function room?

There was a room at the back I think. TBH I actually completely forgot
to check but I can go and ask at lunch time.

FWIW I prefer it when we reserve tables rather than get an entire room
to ourselves. I think it's probably just me but meeting up in our own
special rooms makes me feel quite seedy. I dunno why. I think it's
because I like to think of the socials as just meeting up with friends
rather than a formal meeting. 6 o' one, half a dozen o' the other,
I 'spose. YMMV etc etc.

Re: [PUB] Rising Sun, Ebury Bridge Road, Victoria

[Mark Fowler]

On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Simon Wistow wrote:

> Downsides, I suspect, are  that people may think it's too far to walk
> (being a whole 10 minutes from either Victoria or Sloane Square,
> although there are buses that run near) and the no vege pub food.

Did the pub have a function room?

Mark.

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#!/usr/bin/perl -T
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