Re: [MacGroup] bad experience at the Apple store

[Mike Watkins]

Eric,

I bought my family pack from Amazon. Their price for a single copy is  
$25.00, and for a family pack of five is $43.99. Their web page for  
that is at:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_85186751_2?ie=UTF8&docId=1000410511&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=13R3Q402JERVDMPGXW1C&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=489513811&pf_rd_i=229534
Hope this is a help.

Mike Watkins

On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:41 PM, Eric Hammond wrote:


Hey guys,

Just had a bad experience at the apple store in Oxmoor mall.  They  
were a little busy so I'll go back.  And since none of you can do  
anything, I'll keep all the details to myself.


So here's where I need your help:  I'm looking for a copy of Snow  
Leopard and Apple Care for my MacBook.  Here are my questions.  Snow  
Leopard:  Have any of you found a really cheap place to buy it?  I  
don't want a bootleg copy or anything.  I am more than willing to  
buy my own.  I just wondered if you all might have seen if cheaper  
in a store or online.  Apple Care: I also need Apple Care.  Since  
this is the first time I have tried to buy it after owning the  
computer for a while, is there anything different?  Anyone out there  
had any good/bad experiences buying it after owning the computer for  
a while?


Thanks guys!

Eric Hammond

PS:  I am likely moving to Houston Texas soon.  Anyone know of a mac  
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Re: [MacGroup] ARS 10.6

[Mike Watkins]

Well, I got my Snow Leopard installed yesterday. I still don't  
actually use a lot of the functions. It's nice, however, to have the  
capability there when I may want it. Had no problems with Rosetta  
Stone or anything, mostly because of this group's very good info  
before I got the program in the mail.


 I had ordered it from Amazon, also, and they gave me the extra five  
bucks off when the price fell. Someone else had shared that they got  
that price break. Nice.


Now, to read Ed's Arstechnica review.

Mike Watkins


On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:26 AM, Ed Wiser wrote:


http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/08/mac-os-x-10-6.ars


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Re: [MacGroup] Re(2): New trojan that hijacks your Mac's DNS spotted in the wild

[Mike Watkins]

Thanks, Harry. I'll be sure to watch for said trojan.

Mike Watkins


On Aug 12, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:


Mike,

The url is valid it's very long so you probably didn't have the  
whole thing,


I created a tiny url to access the article.

<http://tinyurl.com/kkmss7>

Harry

Wednesday, August 12, 20095:00 PMMike watkinswatk5...@bellsouth.net


Ed,

The url you gave gets a "Bad Request -Error 400" screen. What's it do
and how do we find out more about it? Thanks.

Mike Watkins


On Aug 12, 2009, at 7:14 AM, Ed Wiser wrote:

http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~r/arstechnica/apple/~3/cAxUXdqbLEw/ 
new-

trojan-that-hijacks-your-macs-dns-spotted-in-the-wild.ars



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Re: [MacGroup] New trojan that hijacks your Mac's DNS spotted in the wild

[Mike Watkins]

Ed,

The url you gave gets a "Bad Request -Error 400" screen. What's it do  
and how do we find out more about it? Thanks.


Mike Watkins


On Aug 12, 2009, at 7:14 AM, Ed Wiser wrote:

http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~r/arstechnica/apple/~3/cAxUXdqbLEw/new- 
trojan-that-hijacks-your-macs-dns-spotted-in-the-wild.ars



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Re: [MacGroup] IPhone question

[Mike Watkins]

I figure it's "Cutting off ones's own nose to spite one's face". Am I  
correct?

Mike Watkins

On Jun 24, 2009, at 2:45 PM, Anne Cartwright wrote:



On Jun 24, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Jonathan Fletcher wrote:



[redacted snarky nasal mutilation proverb]


Proverb?

Perhaps "Comparisons are odious"





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Re: [MacGroup] Double messages

[Mike Watkins]

No, I get just one of each message.
Mike Watkins

On Jun 22, 2009, at 8:05 PM, Louisville Computer Society (MUG) wrote:


Is everyone else getting double message?

Tom




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Re: [MacGroup] test

[Mike Watkins]

A bunch of tests came through loud and clear. Guess the problem is  
licked!
Mike Watkins


On Jun 14, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Lee Larson wrote:

> test
>
>
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[MacGroup] Mysterious losses on MAIL screen...

[Mike Watkins]

Perhaps someone may be able to help me with my latest quandary. It  
used to be true that my MAIL screen showed several sites to the left  
of the actual mail.

I still have an INBOX, a SENT box, a TRASH box,, and a JUNK box. But  
the Mackintosh HD logo, the little house which represents my personal  
site (watk5926), the DOCUMENTS site, and a couple more are gone. My  
daughter swears she didn't do anything to cause it... and I made no  
changes that I'm aware of. I did NOT install the new 10.5.7... I was  
forewarned by the problems some had with that. I can't figure out how  
to get them back . They are in my system, but the work-around to get  
to them each time is time-consuming and annoying.

I tried copying my DOCUMENTS file and dragging it to the area to drop.  
Won't go! Tried shutting the whole computer down and reopening it  
after a wait. NO luck! How do I get those things back, short of  
reloading the whole 10.5.6 system?

I can call Apple Care (and will) if nobody knows a quick fix. But you  
folks usually know more than they do, it seems. I will be anxiously  
awaiting some amazing revelation!

Mike Watkins

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Re: [MacGroup] Mail problems

[Mike Watkins]

Must be okay now, Lee. We're getting messages.
Thanks for all you do.
Mike Watkins


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> The merry pranksters at UofL's IT made some network infrastructure
> changes on Friday evening. One of these was to change the IP address
> on the erdos.math.louisville.edu machine. When they did this, they
> neglected to tell the their own mail routers about the change. I
> discovered the problem last evening, after several people who rely on
> erdos for their email complained. I explained the problem to IT, and
> they eventually figured out what was going on.
>
> It's supposed to be fixed now.
>
>
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Re: [MacGroup] April Access

[Mike Watkins]

Tom,

I don't find any attachment other than the Louisville Computer  
Society's logo. Did you forget to add the attachment? Or, am I missing  
something?


Mike Watkins


On Apr 22, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Tom Guenthner wrote:


The next meeting of LCS (MUG) will be next Tuesday Night @ 7PM.

Attached is the April issue of LCS Access.
For those members that have not subscribed to our List Serve, Please  
do in order to continue receiving your copy via eMail. From now on  
ACCESS will be sent/delivered via the MacGroup List Serve only.



--
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Re: [MacGroup] MESSAGE WITHOUT CONTENT

[Mike Watkins]

I have had that same thing to occur. I just delete, as you do. I  
suppose it's a form of "phishing". I have become quite cynical about e- 
mails of unknown origin, as well as regular junk. Ah, well!

Mike

On Apr 16, 2009, at 8:16 AM, Marta Edie wrote:

Recently I am getting messages into my mac.com mailbox without  
content, without subject, nor does it tell from whence it came, only  
the time and the size which is between one and two kilobytes. I  
delete the thing, but what could generate such a strange email. It  
happened at least six times in the last tree weeks or so. Any  
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[MacGroup] My e-mail address...

[Mike Watkins]

I've been told by some of my friends that e-mails sent to me are being  
bounced. Somehow, my address has been truncated and therefore  
automatically goes to an incorrect address.


My correct e-mail address is:
watk5...@bellsouth.net

I think there are little gremlins which get into my computer at night  
and randomly change settings!
Actually, I officially joined our church unofficial Yahoo! chat group  
recently, which may have messed up something it shouldn't have  
affected. Don't ask me! I have been an unofficial member of the chat  
list for a long time.


So I checked, and

Lo and Behold! Under my MAIL PREFERENCES, there was that same  
truncated address showing as my outgoing e-mail!


I'm not fond of Yahoo! and had tried too avoid registering at the  
site., though I still received the chat group mail. For some reason,  
though,my responses to the group weren't going through, so I broke  
down and filled out the form for Yahoo! That was probably a mistake.  
Anyway, I have (I hope) corrected the error for now.


Sorry if you have had any trouble contacting me.

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Re: [MacGroup] SuperDuper Or Time Machine

[Mike Watkins]

Much better, Ed. The original link got me to some horse organization.  
Thanks.

Mike Watkins

On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:57 AM, Ed Wiser wrote:


http://homepage.mac.com/dnanian/SuperDuper/SuperDuper.pdf

How is this link for those who can not see the link as posted.



On Mar 14, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Profile wrote:


Wayne,

I answered your help then clicked on the link.  It sure didn't take  
me

to what you had described.   Is there another link?


John



On Mar 14, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Wayne Bonnett wrote:


John,

Super Duper is rather SUPER DUPER indeed!  It will create a mirror
image (and bootable) copy of your internal hard drive and format  
then

copy that image to an external drive.  It works GREAT.  I used it
when I upgraded my Macbook hard drive from 60GB to 320GB.  I had  
ZERO

problems with this software.

Check out this handy dandy guide: http://homepage.mac.com/dnanian/
SuperDuper/SuperDuper.pdf  It is what I used for my hard drive
upgrade.  That should answer most of your questions.

HTH,
Wayne


On Mar 14, 2009, at 1:31 AM, Profile wrote:


Folks, I need some direction.

I have an iMac that has been weird ever since I tried to defrag  
with
TechTools.  I even had to do an reinstall of Leopard using the  
append
method.  That helped for awhile but now it is slow and won't  
reboot.


I have TechTools running again tonight but if it finds nothing  
wrong

(I have already used DiskWarrior to rebuild the directory) I will
reformat the hard drive and start all over but here is my question.

I have a complete backup on both Time Machine and SuperDuper.  I  
have

NEVER had to use them to restore and am wondering how to do a total
and complete restore using either of these.

Supposedly the SuperDuper is a bootable drive, if so how does this
work.  Do I hold down a particular key when rebooting to choose the
SuperDuper drive?  If I then boot from that drive how do I then use
the software to completely restore the iMac drive?  What steps do I
go
through.  I would use the Mac OS install disk to reformat, do I  
then

reboot to the SuperDuper drive or do I go ahead and install the OS
and
THEN use SuperDuper?

I am needing direction so I do this correctly, and I am hoping that
using it this way will not put back onto the drive whatever was
causing the problem.

Many thanks for any help by those that have used this before.

John

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Re: [MacGroup] Mike Watkins reply

[Mike Watkins]

My Dear Ed,

I truly thank you for clearing this up for me! One would suppose that  
the AppleCare tech reps would have known about that and realized that  
it couldn't be fixed by their methods! Our group often seems to be  
more on target tan AppleCare. However,I am still grateful; to have the  
AppleCare available to me, just in case.


You told me it was the fault of my new Safari 4 install; but I didn't  
realize it actually was happening to others. I was wondering if you  
had the same problem. You, and Marta, have replied that you both do.  
Plus, you sent the Apple-Support_Discussions as examples. I appreciate  
all your trouble.


When you were trying to get your e-mail to me. I was probably in the  
midst of trying to straighten out more of the mess the AppleCare  
people left me. in. I hope and believe I am done now. It was more  
screwed up than I had first realized, and it took me many experiments  
to get all functions back.


Sincerely thankful,
Mike Watkins


On Mar 8, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Ed Wiser wrote:


Mike you sent me an email with a bellsouth account of 5...@bellsouth.net

this bounces back as a not our user error.

My reply to your email which is about how Safari 4 has messed up  
saving your email to the desktop is:


 The link I sent with the reply was to show you others are having  
the problem. I too can not save an email to my desktop though I  
never do such a thing I tried it after you posted the question.

It is a well documented problem on Apples message-board.
I would uninstall Safari 4 if this is something you do all the time.  
I practice zero email box
so I try and deal with the emails straight away most of my emails  
are questions from students or mailing lists.


Apple - Support - Discussions - mail app won't save a message  
to .rtf ...Apple - Support - Discussions - Apparent BUG - Can't Save  
Emails ...
Apple - Support - Discussions - Safari 4 Beta and impact on  
Mail. ...Apple - Support - Discussions - Apple Mail and Safari 4  
Beta ...


Plus 7 other pages on Mail and Safari 4.

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Re: [MacGroup] Mike Watkins reply

[Mike Watkins]

Dearest Marta,

Thanks to you, too, in addition to Ed for hitting the nail on the head  
about my problem (with saving e-mails in Mail) since installing Safari  
4. This group is grand!


Mike Watkins


On Mar 8, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Marta Edie wrote:

I noticed the same dilemma. So I either just drag it on the desktop  
and handle it from there, or I choose print and then click on pdf  
and save it as a pdf to the desktop or wherever I want it.

Marta




On Mar 8, 2009, at 11:28 am, Ed Wiser wrote:


Mike you sent me an email with a bellsouth account of 5...@bellsouth.net

this bounces back as a not our user error.

My reply to your email which is about how Safari 4 has messed up  
saving your email to the desktop is:


 The link I sent with the reply was to show you others are having  
the problem. I too can not save an email to my desktop though I  
never do such a thing I tried it after you posted the question.

It is a well documented problem on Apples message-board.
I would uninstall Safari 4 if this is something you do all the  
time. I practice zero email box
so I try and deal with the emails straight away most of my emails  
are questions from students or mailing lists.


Apple - Support - Discussions - mail app won't save a message  
to .rtf ...Apple - Support - Discussions - Apparent BUG - Can't  
Save Emails ...
Apple - Support - Discussions - Safari 4 Beta and impact on  
Mail. ...Apple - Support - Discussions - Apple Mail and Safari 4  
Beta ...


Plus 7 other pages on Mail and Safari 4.

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[MacGroup] Mail Program Problem

[Mike Watkins]

Dear Mac Users;

I hope someone out there on this list (who is more knowledgable than I  
am) will help me with this one. I've already called Applecare Tech  
Help twice, and been disconnected each time after repeated failures to  
solve the dilemna. (I will try them again, when I feel that I can  
tolerate the long period of time on the phone that it requires.)

I use the Mail program on my 20" iMac 2600 Pro. Until two days ago, I  
could easily click on "Save As" and transfer my Mail document to my  
desktop. No longer! Now, when I click on the small screen that appears  
for it to be Saved As, nothing happens. I can save text edit documents  
or  pages from a website, using Save as. So it must be a problem with  
my Mail program. I really prefer to use it, rather than another type  
of mail.

Please help!

Thanks for being there for everyone in the past... now do your stuff  
once more!

Mike Watkins

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Re: [MacGroup] Boosting wireless signal

[Mike Watkins]

Dan,

You may want to contact Jonathan Fletcher of this MacGroup. He found  
some little "converter" boxes that plug into my electrical outlets.  
Lee Larson had also said that they were a possibility for me. I have a  
studio, built in my back yard, which was impossible to get a signal to  
with my router. The converter idea did the trick for me. Also, my  
daughter, who uses her computers in my studio, needed to reset her  
internet preferences to Ethernet, rather than AirPort. (We don't have  
an AirPort at this point.) My modem, from whence cometh the signals,  
is an Ethernet one. The main trick, however, is the converters!  
Perhaps one would do; Jonathan used two (one near my main computer and  
one in the studio). The prices of these gadgets vary widely.


Mike Watkins


On Feb 13, 2009, at 12:16 PM, John Stone wrote:


You could use an Airport Express as a wireless as a "booster".

John

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Dan Crutcher  
 wrote:

Does anyone have any experience/advice on boosting the strength of a
wireless router's signal in a home? Our router works fine in most of
the house, but there is one room in the back that we use often where
the signal is very spotty. Is there some "booster" device that I could
locate in or near that room to get better reception?

Dan


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Re: [MacGroup] dead lampshade

[Mike Watkins]

Ann,

My Lampshade Mac went out and I took it to Mac Authority. They charged  
$95 (or so) to diagnose it. Had the problem been a software one, that  
charge would have been applied to the repairs. It was a bad logic  
board, however, which would have cost me $300 to replace. That's  
wasn't a good deal, since the Lampshade dude is worth that same amount  
to replace with another Lampshade model now. So I ended up buying a  
new 20" screen Flat Panel 2.66B 320GB SD Raedon 2600 iMac PRO w/256MB,  
plus an Applecare protection policy. It has Leopard installed on it. I  
will miss my little Spacecraft iMac.


I am pleased with the new computer... but not comfortable with the  
cost, when I can ill afford such! I had hoped that the little  
Lampshade guy would last me for the rest of my life, really. No such  
luck!


Hope you can get your little fella fixed.

Mike Watkins (who is a woman in spite of her name)



Mac Authority was fait to me, and knocked $45 of the diagnosis price  
off the price of the new Mac

On Feb 3, 2009, at 7:36 AM, richm...@qx.net wrote:

Reset the PMU--i.e. I pushed the button. Doesn't say how long or how  
hard. I just pressed it once for about 2 seconds. Then put cover  
back on and pressed the power button. Nada.
I may be able to find a test light and see if the power cord is bad.  
It looks fine. Don't know how to test the power button or the  
internal power supply unit. (Don't want to get zapped.)

Any further things I should try?

And thanks for your help so far!

Ann



--- Original Message ---
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Cc :
Subject : RE: Re: [MacGroup] dead lampshade

Resetting your PMU:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1712

Good luck.

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:03 PM, richm...@qx .net   
wrote:
> Ok battery arrived--delay what with the ice etc and no  
electricity! Finally

> got back to the 21st century from the 18th--interesting but not for
> keeps--put new battery in and no joy.
> Lampshade still dead. No whir. No light on the monitor. No nothing.
> What should I try next? If there is a reset on the board I  
couldn't find it.

> (This is a 17" 800mhz iMac.)
> Or should I just get an enclosure for the hard drive and send the  
imac to

> the great recycling bin in the sky?
>
> Thanks again,
> Ann
>
> I hope life is returning to normal in Louisville. Versailles is  
clawing its

> way back.
>
>
>
> --- Original Message ---
> From : Robert Kersting[ mailto:laffm...@gmail.com]
> Sent : 1/26/2009 5:07:14 PM
> To : macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
&g t; Cc :
> Subject : RE: Re: [MacGroup] dead lampshade
>
> Take out the four screws in the bottom and you should see it when it
> separates. Here's a tutorial:
>
> http://www.satcure.co.uk/accs/imac2.htm
>
> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 6:32 PM, richm...@qx.net   
wrote:
>> I poked around on Macfixit and others and have not discovered  
where the
>> battery is located or the specs on the battery itself. I have a  
little

>> round
>> battery shaped battery I think may be one I got for this computer  
years

>> ago
>> and didn't use, but not sure. It is Energizer 1CR2 3.0v p11e  
lithium

>> battery
>> #2013.
>> If it sits way up inside the machine above the optical drive, I  
might want
>> to get a new battery even if this is the right one. I think it's  
gonna be

> ;> a
>> pain to get to.
>> Could you point me to a site that would have instructions for  
changing it?

>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ann
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Original Message - --
>> From : Robert Kersting[ mailto:laffm...@gmail.com]
>> Sent : 1/24/2009 4:37:10 PM
>> To : macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
>> Cc :
>> Subject : RE: Re: [MacGroup] dead lampshade
>>
>> According to what I dug up, you may just have a dead battery.
>> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 3:53 PM, richm...@qx.net  
 wrote:
>>> My trusty iMac 800 17" flat panel (aka Lampshade, also  
Gooseneck) will

>>> not
>>> power on.
>>> Nothing at all happens when I press the on button.
>>> This happened last week when it was so very cold. Our heat went  
off and

>>> it
>>> got really cold in my office.
>>> After everything was fixed, iMac was dead and would not be  
revived.
>>> (By the way, the PowerPC 9600 which has been on since 1998  
except when

>>> the
>>> power is out fired up immediately.)
>>>
>>> I've unplugged it both from the wall and the computer, also  
tried other

>>> outlets. No joy.
>>>
>>> Is there a battery I sh

Re: [MacGroup] Question (Power & the Parrot)

[Mike Watkins]

Anne,

Sorry about your fishies... nice to hear, however, that you have an  
African Grey Parrot. I have never owned either fish or birds; but I am  
in awe of the brain-power of an African Grey. A very close friend of  
mine owned one (or it owned him) and they were constant companions...  
his stories about that bird were unbelievable sometimes! How long have  
you had yours? My friend's bird died from his children having  
heartworm medicine on their hands when they fed the parrot. My friend  
was a wiry, tough deep sea diver, and he cried like a baby over losing  
his African Grey. You are so lucky that yours survived the low  
temperatures.


Mike Watkins


On Jan 30, 2009, at 9:54 PM, Anne Cartwright wrote:

Lost power Wednesday morning at 2AM. Got power back today (Friday)  
at 2PM. House got down to 41 degrees. COLD! Lost all my tropical  
fish. However my African gray parrot is alright. Glad the computer  
meeting was cancelled; wish the power hadn't been.


Anne Cartwright



On Jan 28, 2009, at Jan 28, 2009  5:49 PM, Tom Guenthner wrote:


Has everyone lost power?

 ---
Tom Guenthner
t...@aye.net
http://ThomasGuenthner.com
Sent from my Mac Book Pro 

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Re: [MacGroup] Question

[Mike Watkins]

We did here in Butchertown; but ours came back on last night about 8  
PM. Thank goodness! It was pretty cold in my house!


MIke Watkins

On Jan 28, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Tom Guenthner wrote:


Has everyone lost power?

 ---
Tom Guenthner
t...@aye.net
http://ThomasGuenthner.com
Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
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Re: [MacGroup] A question

[Mike Watkins]

Harry,

  Though I live downtown in Butchertown, I will drive all the way out  
to Pack 'n' Ship on Hikes Lane (in an older strip mall) just around  
the corner from Bardstown Road. I believe they're a UPS facility, but  
I think they sometimes also use the Post Office. They have always been  
extremely good at packing and shipping... it's worth the try, at  
least. I never am sure whether a place is still under the older  
ownership. You could call to check that. Good luck!

Mike


On Jan 18, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:

> Hey gang,
>
> I have a friend who needs to ship some electronic equipment (and other
> stuff) from Louisville to the west coast.
>
> She's looking for a responsible UPS or FedX or DHL shipping store
> (or ). She checked out one Mailboxes / UPS  location close to her
> but the people who waited on her did not inspire confidence.
>
> She's looking for someone who really knows what they are doing when  
> the
> package fragile stuff.
>
> TIA,
>
> Harry
>
>
>
> ___
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> be January 27 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane.
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> Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
>


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MacGroup: Ok

[Mike Watkins]

Marta,

Of course, we're concerned about your health! I thought it was the 
French, rather than the Germans, who think emotions reside in the 
liver. Do all Europeans feel that way? (of course, I realize it's a 
folk thing... Europeans know about science, I'm sure.)

Mike

On Dec 6, 2005, at 5:31 PM, Marta Edie wrote:

> Some people spend all day in the office, others goof off, I spent a 
> whole day in the hospital  -no, not especially  iller  ( my creation) 
> than usual, I did not realize that people were concerned asking about 
> my health. I am still hopping, . Unkraut vergeht nicht  ( weeds don't 
> wither away) as the saying goes in German.  Sorry for my fresh from 
> liver ( also a German saying) statement.
> Marta
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MacGroup: Apple Updates

[Mike Watkins]

Thanks, Jerry you're on the ball, as usual! I don't even know what 
most of the things are that you've listed as components addressed by 
this security update. I did it anyway.
Mike


On Nov 29, 2005, at 10:33 PM, Jerry Yeager wrote:

> Apple has released a security update; get it via SUPP.
>
> From the promo copy:
>
>
> Security Update 2005-009 delivers a number of security enhancements 
> and is recommended for all Macintosh users.
>
> This update includes the following components:
>
> apache_mod_ssl
>  CoreFoundation
>  CoreTypes
>  curl
>  iodbcadmin
>  OpenSSL
>  Safari
>  sudo
>  syslog
>
> For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: 
> http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n61798
>
> ---
> Someday, I will come up with a clever signature line. I am not sure if 
> I will use it or not, but I will come up with one.
>
>
>
>
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MacGroup: Help with Address Book!

[Mike Watkins]

Jerry Freeman,
I believe you're right... and I do remember Clem Kadiddlehopper! I'm 
old! Thanks, anyway... it probably needed to be run for one reason or 
another.
Mike


On Nov 11, 2005, at 3:31 PM, Jerry Freeman wrote:

>
> On Nov 11, 2005, at 2:47 PM, Mike Watkins wrote:
>
>> It didn't get my Address Book back
>
> No, wasn't supposed to, I only responded to the?one?issue "Repair 
> Permissions". The solution to the Address Book.app and Finder window 
> maladies are not apparent from my view through a cable modem. As Clem 
> Kiddlehopper would say "this just don't look right to me"...jf
>




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MacGroup: Help with Address Book!

[Mike Watkins]

Jerry Freeman,
Thanks ... I ran Repair Permissions. It didn't get my Address Book 
back; but I tried.
Mike

On Nov 11, 2005, at 12:51 PM, Jerry Freeman wrote:

>
> On Nov 11, 2005, at 12:00 PM, Mike Watkins wrote:
>
>> I couldn't find Repair Permissions
>
> Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility.app. Open Disk Utility.app /Select 
> the HD icon that has OS X/Repair Permissions. Frankly, with all the 
> problems you are having I suspect a bad OS X install or hardware 
> issues...jf
>



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MacGroup: Help with Address Book!

[Mike Watkins]

Jerry,

When I got my new HD put in , I was missing Twain (to import items into 
Photoshop). I've been dealing with Epson about that... they're supposed 
to be be cutting me a CD and sending it to me with a copy of Twain. It 
should be easier than that, I know... but when I try to download it to 
my scanner from Epson's site, nothing happens, We've "walked through 
it" many times to try to install Twain, on Safari and on Explorer: I 
even got a new modum from Bellsouth for my internet. No help. 
(Bellsouth didn't charge anything but postage for it.) I should have 
the disk any day now , and will call them. per their instructions, to 
have them walk me through that installation. (They said it wouldn't be 
a regular disk , and it wouldn't show me how to do it own my own.)

  I wasn't doing too well this summer, so most of the Epson Twain delay 
has been because I didn't feel up to dealing with it. I had both knees 
injured and in bad shape, just from over-doing.
I guess I learned my lesson about that... it's just so hard not to try 
to do things for myself, even when I do know I should get help. That 
has meant a lot of pain, physical therapy, and exercising the knees at 
home. I kinda lost my whole summer. I am better now.

I was also missing my Aquarium screen saver after the new HD was 
installed, and ended up ordering a replacement (updated) of that 
through Amazon. That works fine now.

My Adobe Reader was hanging up halfway through the opening process, 
with the blue "progress" rod stopping halfway, and the screen 
freezing... sometimes. Other times, it worked fine. I did update Adobe 
Reader... so far, so good.

Nothing else seems to be a problem or missing, at least for now. I hope 
there's nothing wrong with my new HD.

This Address Book thing has me stumped, however. Some routes I take to 
get to an address folder to double-click on an address folder, It will 
open (in column view) an empty column, showing no items in folder. I 
had a friend staying here for a few days, in the studio, from out of 
town. Could he have accidently done something to have lost my 
addresses? I think he's computer-savvy enough to not do that though 
he doesn't usually use a Mac. (He's from the OTHER SIDE.)

I sure do need a lot of those addresses. Some were new since I ran off 
a paper copy last. I suppose I can rebuild , one-by-one, my address 
book. My computer still knows many of them. If I am sending an E-mail, 
and can start the address, the automatic feature finishes it, still. 
That tells me they're in there somewhere, somehow. Am I wrong?

Maybe I need to have you come over and check it out. I couldn't find 
Repair Permissions... don't remember the route, perhaps. Don't know 
that it would help, anyway. I have had a nasty cold this week and don't 
want to give it to anyone... so it would be a few days before I'd feel 
I should ask you to come, if you think it would help. What say?

Mike



On Nov 10, 2005, at 10:08 PM, Jerry Yeager wrote:

> It sounds like something is a bit odd with your Mac, Mike.
>
> Are you missing other applications or is this the only one?
>
>   Jerry
>
> On Nov 10, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Mike Watkins wrote:
>
>> Dan,
>>
>> I don't even have an address book listing in my Applications folder 
>> when I double-click on it. It's not there. It does show up if I just 
>> double-click on HD, in the right-hand list of that page, however. 
>> That, too, goes away, along with everything else in that side of the 
>> page if I double-click on it.
>>
>> My address book is lost in space!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Dan Crutcher wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried opening the "Applications" folder on your hard drive 
>>> and double-clicking on the "Address Book" application? That should 
>>> open Address Book and use your current AddressBook.data file. If it 
>>> doesn't show the addresses you put in there, what does it do?
>>>
>>> The icon in the dock is just an alias file that launches the 
>>> application "Address Book." It was in your Dock because Apple puts 
>>> it there by default when you install your OS X system files. 
>>> Dragging it out of the dock -- accidentally or on purpose -- will 
>>> make it disappear with a "poof." All you have to do to put it back 
>>> into your Dock is to drag the application icon from the Applications 
>>> folder into the dock and drop it.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>> Help!
>>>>
>>>> I have suddenly had a major loss and am in mourning... my address 
>>>> book is inaccessib

MacGroup: Help with Address Book!

[Mike Watkins]

Dan,

I don't even have an address book listing in my Applications folder 
when I double-click on it. It's not there. It does show up if I just 
double-click on HD, in the right-hand list of that page, however. That, 
too, goes away, along with everything else in that side of the page if 
I double-click on it.

My address book is lost in space!

Mike


On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Dan Crutcher wrote:

> Have you tried opening the "Applications" folder on your hard drive 
> and double-clicking on the "Address Book" application? That should 
> open Address Book and use your current AddressBook.data file. If it 
> doesn't show the addresses you put in there, what does it do?
>
> The icon in the dock is just an alias file that launches the 
> application "Address Book." It was in your Dock because Apple puts it 
> there by default when you install your OS X system files. Dragging it 
> out of the dock -- accidentally or on purpose -- will make it 
> disappear with a "poof." All you have to do to put it back into your 
> Dock is to drag the application icon from the Applications folder into 
> the dock and drop it.
>
> Dan
>
>> Help!
>>
>> I have suddenly had a major loss and am in mourning... my address 
>> book is inaccessible.I know how to go the route of Home Computer/ 
>> Library/ Application Support/ Address Book/Address Book.data. (That 
>> was in an E-mail I saved from a previous person's question/ answer on 
>> our list serve.)
>>
>> My problem then is that I cannot find an application to open that 
>> file. I'm told that "There is no default application specified to 
>> open the document "AddressBook.data"." I can then choose to Cancel or 
>> to Choose Application. Seems as though I would then want to Choose 
>> Application.
>> That's all well and good, but whatever I seem to choose as the 
>> application will only give me choices of New Folder or Cancel. There 
>> is also a space designated Open but it is shaded and not usable. 
>> Now what?
>>
>> I had it in my dock; but when I clicked on it, all I got was a big 
>> question mark over the center of it.
>> While trying to fiddle with that, I "poofed" away that icon. Don't 
>> ask me how it got into this condition in the first place... I haven't 
>> the foggiest idea.
>>
>> I can find all sorts of folders, etc. regarding Addresses; but they 
>> don't get me anywhere. I get the same "No default application to 
>> open, etc." for all of those, too. Now what do I do?I've yet to find 
>> anything I can ask Help to get a pertinent answer.
>>
>> I am running a G4 iMac with a flat screen, on Panther/ version10.3.9 
>> system. I do have a back-up LaCie HD; it's gone on that, too.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>> | be November 22 at Pitt Academy, 6010 Preston Highway.
>> | The LCS Web page is .
>> | List posting address: 
>> | List Web page: 
>>
>
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be November 22 at Pitt Academy, 6010 Preston Highway.
> | The LCS Web page is .
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> | List Web page: 
>



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MacGroup: Help with Address Book!

[Mike Watkins]

Not really, since I'm still running 10.3.9.
Thanks, Mike

On Nov 10, 2005, at 1:10 AM, R. D. Preston wrote:

> Is the issue in this article related to your problem(s)?
> < http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20051109080442333 >
>
> On Nov 9, 2005, at 7:43 PM, Mike Watkins wrote:
>
>> Help!
>>
>> I have suddenly had a major loss and am in mourning... my address 
>> book is inaccessible.I know how to go the route of Home Computer/ 
>> Library/ Application Support/ Address Book/Address Book.data. (That 
>> was in an E-mail I saved from a previous person's question/ answer on 
>> our list serve.)
>>
>> My problem then is that I cannot find an application to open that 
>> file. I'm told that "There is no default application specified to 
>> open the document "AddressBook.data"." I can then choose to Cancel or 
>> to Choose Application. Seems as though I would then want to Choose 
>> Application.
>> That's all well and good, but whatever I seem to choose as the 
>> application will only give me choices of New Folder or Cancel. There 
>> is also a space designated Open but it is shaded and not usable. 
>> Now what?
>>
>> I had it in my dock; but when I clicked on it, all I got was a big 
>> question mark over the center of it.
>> While trying to fiddle with that, I "poofed" away that icon. Don't 
>> ask me how it got into this condition in the first place... I haven't 
>> the foggiest idea.
>>
>> I can find all sorts of folders, etc. regarding Addresses; but they 
>> don't get me anywhere. I get the same "No default application to 
>> open, etc." for all of those, too. Now what do I do?I've yet to find 
>> anything I can ask Help to get a pertinent answer.
>>
>> I am running a G4 iMac with a flat screen, on Panther/ version10.3.9 
>> system. I do have a back-up LaCie HD; it's gone on that, too.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>
>
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MacGroup: Help with Address Book!

[Mike Watkins]

Jerry and Dan,

I trued that. When I double-click on that file, which is on my HD page 
with many others, the whole page goes blank... except the icons in the 
separate left-hand column stay there (such as Mac HD, Desktop, Home 
Page ,etc. All the functions on the larger right-hand portion just go 
away. (They come back if I start the double-click on HD process 
again... and then disappear again each time I double-click on 
Addresses. No progress. Now what?

Mike


On Nov 10, 2005, at 12:14 AM, Jerry Yeager wrote:

> Hello Mike.
>
> Did it work?
>
>   Jerry
>
> On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Dan Crutcher wrote:
>
>> Have you tried opening the "Applications" folder on your hard drive 
>> and double-clicking on the "Address Book" application? That should 
>> open Address Book and use your current AddressBook.data file. If it 
>> doesn't show the addresses you put in there, what does it do?
>>
>> The icon in the dock is just an alias file that launches the 
>> application "Address Book." It was in your Dock because Apple puts it 
>> there by default when you install your OS X system files. Dragging it 
>> out of the dock -- accidentally or on purpose -- will make it 
>> disappear with a "poof." All you have to do to put it back into your 
>> Dock is to drag the application icon from the Applications folder 
>> into the dock and drop it.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>> Help!
>>>
>>> I have suddenly had a major loss and am in mourning... my address 
>>> book is inaccessible.I know how to go the route of Home Computer/ 
>>> Library/ Application Support/ Address Book/Address Book.data. (That 
>>> was in an E-mail I saved from a previous person's question/ answer 
>>> on our list serve.)
>>>
>>> My problem then is that I cannot find an application to open that 
>>> file. I'm told that "There is no default application specified to 
>>> open the document "AddressBook.data"." I can then choose to Cancel 
>>> or to Choose Application. Seems as though I would then want to 
>>> Choose Application.
>>> That's all well and good, but whatever I seem to choose as the 
>>> application will only give me choices of New Folder or Cancel. There 
>>> is also a space designated Open but it is shaded and not usable. 
>>> Now what?
>>>
>>> I had it in my dock; but when I clicked on it, all I got was a big 
>>> question mark over the center of it.
>>> While trying to fiddle with that, I "poofed" away that icon. Don't 
>>> ask me how it got into this condition in the first place... I 
>>> haven't the foggiest idea.
>>>
>>> I can find all sorts of folders, etc. regarding Addresses; but they 
>>> don't get me anywhere. I get the same "No default application to 
>>> open, etc." for all of those, too. Now what do I do?I've yet to find 
>>> anything I can ask Help to get a pertinent answer.
>>>
>>> I am running a G4 iMac with a flat screen, on Panther/ version10.3.9 
>>> system. I do have a back-up LaCie HD; it's gone on that, too.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>>> | be November 22 at Pitt Academy, 6010 Preston Highway.
>>> | The LCS Web page is .
>>> | List posting address: 
>>> | List Web page: 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>> | be November 22 at Pitt Academy, 6010 Preston Highway.
>> | The LCS Web page is .
>> | List posting address: 
>> | List Web page: 
>
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> I will use it or not, but I will come up with one.
>
>
>



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MacGroup: Help with Address Book!

[Mike Watkins]

Help!

I have suddenly had a major loss and am in mourning... my address book 
is inaccessible.I know how to go the route of Home Computer/ Library/ 
Application Support/ Address Book/Address Book.data. (That was in an 
E-mail I saved from a previous person's question/ answer on our list 
serve.)

My problem then is that I cannot find an application to open that file. 
I'm told that "There is no default application specified to open the 
document "AddressBook.data"." I can then choose to Cancel or to Choose 
Application. Seems as though I would then want to Choose Application.
That's all well and good, but whatever I seem to choose as the 
application will only give me choices of New Folder or Cancel. There is 
also a space designated Open but it is shaded and not usable. Now 
what?

I had it in my dock; but when I clicked on it, all I got was a big 
question mark over the center of it.
While trying to fiddle with that, I "poofed" away that icon. Don't ask 
me how it got into this condition in the first place... I haven't the 
foggiest idea.

I can find all sorts of folders, etc. regarding Addresses; but they 
don't get me anywhere. I get the same "No default application to open, 
etc." for all of those, too. Now what do I do?I've yet to find anything 
I can ask Help to get a pertinent answer.

I am running a G4 iMac with a flat screen, on Panther/ version10.3.9 
system. I do have a back-up LaCie HD; it's gone on that, too.

Mike



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
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MacGroup: backing up my system

[Mike Watkins]

Harry,

I saw your LaCie HD at one of our group meetings many moons ago. The 
only disadvantage I thought it had was that it was very heavy to hold/ 
pick up.

Bought one of my own a few months ago, which I really like. It's such a 
good-looking item (a simple, rectangular, stainless steel, silvery 
box), plus takes up very little space on my desk... and the recent 
models are made differently, so they're lighter weight. I can't 
remember offhand what it's original capacity was listed as ...  on my 
desktop, it says 233.61 GB, with 228.65 GB free to use. They can be 
bought in many capacities at MacTown.

Mine is set to automatically back up anything I put into my flat-screen 
Martian iMac, at any time. (capacity of 114.9 GB, at present.) The iMac 
has a replacement HD in it, because mine went bad two days after my 
three-year (Apple Care) warranty expired. Woe was me! I was grateful 
when that happened to have the LaCie. You were a good influence!

Mike


On Nov 6, 2005, at 11:58 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:

> I have an 80gb LaCie hard drive which I use for back up. LaCie has  
> FREE
> backup software, "SilverKeeper." With SilverKeeper you can schedule 
> your
> backups at startup or shut down or at a specific time during the day.
>
> I've set my computer to shut down at midnight and restart at 6:15 a.m.
> I've scheduled Silverkeeper to back up at 6:30 a.m. By the time I check
> email the computer is on, ready to go the hard drive has been backed 
> up.
>
> LaCie's software will work with other hard drives. I've been told you
> can't use the scheduling function with another companies hard drive, 
> but
> I have not found this to be true. I tested it on one of my internal 
> hard
> drive partions and it worked fine.
>
> Harry
>
> Sunday, November 6, 20057:10 AMStuart Ungarteamungar at yahoo.com
>
>> I am wondering what the best way to back up my system
>> is.  I have a mac mini and have about 10,000 photos
>> and some iTunes songs I would want backed up.  For
>> some reason, my DVD burner that is built in is not
>> working for backing up the data.  Any thoughts about
>> an external hard drive (which ones are good and at
>> what price)?  Or, can I buy one of those cool new 5th
>> gen iPods to use as back up???  Or, do they compress
>> the files further?
>>
>> Thoughts, experience appreciated!
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> PS- THe storm last night made me think about this as
>> more of an urgent matter.  No computer problems, but
>> you never know when that will happen!
>>
>> Louisville At-home Dads (L.A.D.s)
>> Bringing together stay-at-home fathers, their children and their 
>> families.
>> 502-426-5376
>> LouisvilleLADS-owner at yahoogroups.com
>>
>>
>>  
>> __
>> Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page!
>> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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MacGroup: difficulty with email overseas

[Mike Watkins]

Amen!
Mike

On Oct 18, 2005, at 6:44 PM, Marta Edie PB wrote:

> Jerry, yes it is. I had it changed to mac.com last year with the list 
> service, so that I would receive the group mail , because at that time 
> insight did not have webmail--- however,  mark this now, I got 
> your reply just now in my  regular mail account as well as in my .mac  
> web account, also the reply  about the computer not shutting down. 
> This is great now. I believe it to be OK. I can't actually tell you 
> what I did, I looked around a bit in the preferences and clicked 
> hither and thither, and low and behold, I am getting the mails into 
> the account. I thought if all fails, I just have to wait for the 
> group's mail until I get back and use insight and gmail in the 
> meantime, because they worked all along, except that I do not get the 
> insight web account come down into my regular account. But the webmail 
> works fine, because all mail comes into it first anyhow. - And I am 
> ready now for a course in the advanced preferences with the pop-s and 
> the smtp-s and the ports and what have you. Thanks for answering and 
> what a luck it came through. If this get to you, please reply with 
> "Amen!"
> Marta
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MacGroup: force to trash [bcc][faked-from]

[Mike Watkins]

Cathy,
I'm no expert; but I found out I could get past the beach ball of death 
to my blue apple logo in my top menu by going into Safari (from the 
dock). The pointer then will cross Safari intact, and I can click on 
the apple. It will show an option of Force Close, which gives mw a 
little screen listing everything open. I then highlight the offending 
category, and do Force Close . I don't remember how I found it would 
work; it just does (for me, at least). I use an iMac with Panther 
running, if that matters.
Mike


On Oct 10, 2005, at 10:20 PM, Green, Cathy wrote:

> Jerry & Lee,
> I followed all Jerry's steps, but when got ready to log in again, 
> there was no "other" option to choose!? So I tried Lee's steps.? The 
> rm command didn't work, but the sudo worked enough to tell me there 
> was no such file...any other ideas?
>
> (did you need to know these were folders on the desktop entitled 
> things such as "$$ StuffIt Temp 1128961545"? ?)
>
> If nothing works, I guess I can move all the things to an 
> "untrashable" folder somewhere out of the way & off the desktop, but I 
> really hate to admit failure before exhausting other means...And I 
> really hate technology to get the better of me, above all other 
> things...
>
> Thanks for all your input & help!
> CCG
>
> --
> From: ? owner-macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu on behalf of Jerry 
> Freeman
> Reply To: ? macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
> Sent: ? Monday, October 10, 2005 7:48 PM
> To: ??? macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
> Subject: ?? Re: MacGroup: force to trash [bcc][faked-from]
>
> I assume you have Quit Stuffit, or done a logout/login, or rebooted?
> then attempted trashing the .sit files by one or all of these?
> methods. If that was unsuccessful you could login as root and most?
> likely trash the files. If you haven't set your box up as root read?
> the instruction below...jf
>
> To enable the root user:
>
> 1. Open NetInfo Manager, located in Applications > Utilities.
> 2. Choose Security > Enable Root User, then type a password for the?
> root account. You may need to enter an administrator password to make?
> these changes.
> 3. Choose Apple menu > Log Out.
> 4. Choose Other in the Login window, type root in the Name field,?
> then the root password in the Password field.
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2005, at 6:05 PM, Green, Cathy wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> > I tried downloading iMote, three different times, but there was a?
> > problem each time when stuffit tried to expand the thing.? Turns?
> > out the thing won't run on Jaguar, which, had I but read the system?
> > reqs beforehand, I wouldn't be in this mess.
> >
> > Now I have 3 stuffit temp items folders that I cannot trash from?
> > the desktopThere's bound to be a way, but when I go to the Help?
> > menu, all I find is directions for a force trash empty.? This?
> > doesn't work for me, as I can't even get the items into the trash?
> > (I get error code -43, which means a file is missing).? Any ideas?
> >
> > Ciao for now!
> > Cathy GREEN ;-)
> >
> > Atherton HS French
> > 3000 Dundee Rd
> > Louisville, KY? 40205
> > 502.485.8202ext204
> > fax 502.485.8985
> > cgreen1 at jefferson.k12.ky.us
> >
>
>
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MacGroup: files alphabetical order

[Mike Watkins]

Bill,

You're right. I didn't think to mention using "list view". Thank you.

Mike


On Aug 22, 2005, at 12:28 AM, Bill Rising wrote:

> On Aug 22, 2005, at 0:08, Marta Edie wrote:
>
>> Mike, i don't really understand what you try to tell me. I  am not 
>> talking about the columns in "mail" , I am talking about a file in my 
>> documents.
>
> I think that Mike forgot to say that you need to view your files in 
> list view. Click on the icon with the four parallel lines to get the 
> files into list view. Then click the 'date modified' column as Mike 
> said.
>
> Bill
>
>
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MacGroup: files alphabetical order

[Mike Watkins]

Marta,

This doesn't apply just to Mail, but to all your files. I just 
double-clicked on my Document file; it opened, showing me a long list 
of files that I have stored there. I double-clicked then on my file 
labeled Health. It also has a long list of records files. I then 
clicked on the top of the right-hand side column (where it says "Date 
Modified), now all those items in my Health folder are listed with most 
recent activity at the top (in my case): you may reverse that order and 
have them listed with most recent activity at the bottom, if you 
prefer. For that, you would click on the arrow to the right of Date 
Modified. See?

I hope this helps. Haven't seen you in quite a while... you know I'm 
always hoping you're feeling okay. I won't say well... perhaps that's 
too much to hope for (though I do, of course).

Try this and see what happens.

Mike


On Aug 22, 2005, at 12:08 AM, Marta Edie wrote:

> Mike, i don't really understand what you try to tell me. I  am not 
> talking about the columns in "mail" , I am talking about a file in my 
> documents. Say a bunch of articles I saved;  no matter when I put them 
> into the list, they appear in alphabetical order. Now if I want to see 
> the last five entries I made according to the dates I filed them, I 
> have to go through the whole list and click on the item to see when it 
> was filed or modified. I know I could put a number there or make an 
> indent,to put the latest entry on top, but that does not help me in 
> the long run. I am just curious if that would be possible. This group 
> knows so many things i am not aware of, it always is worth a try.
> Marta
> On Aug 21, 2005, at 23:43, Mike Watkins wrote:
>
>> Marta,
>> Under any set of files (or sub-files), there are headings at the tops 
>> of the columns, designating such things as Subject or Date Received 
>> (or Date Modified). If you click on the Date column, it lists 
>> according to the chronological order in which received or modified. 
>> If you click on Name or on Subject, it will list those 
>> alphabetically. Each individual file, say, in Documents (such as 
>> e-mails from a certain individual), uses the same method to get the 
>> columns to behave this same way. There is also an small arrow at the 
>> far right of the Subject/ Date line. Clicking on this will reverse 
>> the order so that the last is first, as best I can explain that. Try 
>> it and see what happens.
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2005, at 11:16 PM, Marta Edie wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a way to change the entries  of files - say- in  documents- 
>>> where all my saved items are filed according to the alphabet , to 
>>> have them show up according to the date  on which they were saved? I 
>>> sometimes would prefer the list showing the latest entries on top, 
>>> so they would not get lost between entries from , say , a couple of 
>>> years ago?  I have never inquired whether there might be preferences 
>>> as to how files could be stored.
>>> Marta
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MacGroup: files alphabetical order

[Mike Watkins]

Marta,
Under any set of files (or sub-files), there are headings at the tops 
of the columns, designating such things as Subject or Date Received (or 
Date Modified). If you click on the Date column, it lists according to 
the chronological order in which received or modified. If you click on 
Name or on Subject, it will list those alphabetically. Each individual 
file, say, in Documents (such as e-mails from a certain individual), 
uses the same method to get the columns to behave this same way. There 
is also an small arrow at the far right of the Subject/ Date line. 
Clicking on this will reverse the order so that the last is first, as 
best I can explain that. Try it and see what happens.
Mike


On Aug 21, 2005, at 11:16 PM, Marta Edie wrote:

> Is there a way to change the entries  of files - say- in  documents- 
> where all my saved items are filed according to the alphabet , to have 
> them show up according to the date  on which they were saved? I 
> sometimes would prefer the list showing the latest entries on top, so 
> they would not get lost between entries from , say , a couple of years 
> ago?  I have never inquired whether there might be preferences as to 
> how files could be stored.
> Marta
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MacGroup: clean fun

[Mike Watkins]

Works in Panther, too. I was almost afraid to try it, but curiosity got  
the best of me.

Mike


On Aug 18, 2005, at 6:25 PM, Jerry Freeman wrote:

> for some good clean fun hit cmd+option+control+8 "eight" (same to  
> revert) to turn on inverse mode. works in tigger at least...jf
> === 
> 
>
> ...there are no bad photographers, just inexperienced Photoshop  
> operators.
>
>
>  
>  



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MacGroup: printer question

[Mike Watkins]

Marta,

Jerry Yeager told me once that our printers mix several colors with the 
black ink to print black. I forgot why he said it works that way. Mine 
does the same thing. Jerry's a wise man... I have a poor memory for 
details.

Mike


On Aug 8, 2005, at 4:23 PM, Marta Edie wrote:

> I have an all-in-one Epson stylus CX5200 connected to my Macs. My 
> magenta color cartridge was empty. The machine therefore would not 
> even copy a black and white sheet of paper until I had a new  magenta 
> cartridge installed. My question : Why would it be necessary to have 
> all color cartridges at least with some ink in them, if one would only 
> want to use the copying  part of the printer?  I thought just copying 
> a black and white page would not involve the color cartridges at all. 
> I need a wise man's answer.
> Marta
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MacGroup: New Apple Stuff

[Mike Watkins]

Jerry,

This is fun! I'll for sure be forwarding it to all my Mac-user friends. 
Thanks!

Mike


On Jul 9, 2005, at 3:20 PM, Jerry Yeager wrote:

> The new Apple phone has not been released yet, but here is a preview 
> of something that you just have to see for yourself. The iPod Flea.
>
> http://www.layersmagazine.com/features/feature_cs2/flea.htm
>
>
>   Jerry
>
> ---
> Someday, I will come up with a clever signature line. I am not sure if 
> I will use it or not, but I will come up with one.
>



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MacGroup: New high tech breakthrough

[Mike Watkins]

Ed,
This sounds like something I would enjoy... may have to try it! 
(Actually, my greatest vice is accumulating BOOKs and other Bio-Optic 
Organized Knowledge devices... they're everywhere around my place.)
This is very good... I will, no doubt, be forwarding it to many of my 
friends.
Mike


On Jun 17, 2005, at 3:51 PM, Ed Wiser wrote:

> MAJOR TECHNOLOGICAL BREAKTHROUGH
>
> Introducing the new Bio-Optic Organized Knowledge device, trade named: 
> BOOK
>
> BOOK is a revolutionary breakthrough in technology: no wires, no
> electric circuits, no batteries, nothing to be connected or switched 
> on.
> It's so easy to use, even a child can operate it.
>
> Compact and portable, it can be used anywhere -- even sitting in an
> armchair by the fire?yet it is powerful enough to hold as much
> information as a CD-ROM disc. Here's how it works:
>
> BOOK is constructed of sequentially numbered sheets of paper
> (recyclable), each capable of holding thousands of bits of information.
> The pages are locked together with a custom-fit device called a binder
> which keeps the sheets in their correct sequence.
>
> Opaque Paper Technology (OPT) allows manufacturers to use both sides of
> the sheet, doubling the information density and cutting costs. Experts
> are divided on the prospects for further increases in information
> density; for now, BOOKS with more information simply use more pages.
>
> Each sheet is scanned optically, registering information directly into
> your brain. A flick of the finger takes you to the next sheet. BOOK may
> be taken up at any time and used merely by opening it.
>
> BOOK never crashes or requires rebooting, though like other display
> devices it can become unusable if dropped overboard. The "browse"
> feature allows you to move instantly to any sheet, and move forward or
> backward as you wish. Many come with an "index" feature, which
> pin-points the exact location of any selected information for instant
> retrieval.
>
> An optional "BOOKmark" accessory allows you to open BOOK to the exact
> place you left it in a previous session?even if the BOOK has been
> closed. BOOKmarks fit universal design standards; thus, a single
> BOOKmark can be used in BOOKs by various manufacturers. Conversely,
> numerous BOOK markers can be used in a single BOOK if the user wants to
> store numerous views at once. The number is limited only by the number
> of pages in the BOOK.
>
> You can also make personal notes next to BOOK text entries with an
> optional programming tool, the Portable Erasable Nib Cryptic
> Intercommunication Language Stylus (PENCILS).
>
> Portable, durable, and affordable, BOOK is being hailed as a precursor
> of a new entertainment wave. Also, BOOK's appeal seems so certain that
> thousands of content creators have committed to the platform and
> investors are reportedly flocking. Look for a flood of new titles soon.
>
>
>




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MacGroup: Re: Anne Cartwright is famous!

[Mike Watkins]

Wow! Am I ever impressed with your ingenuity and efficiency! I went to  
Safari with your link and there it was... Who'da thunk it? Mike


On Jun 17, 2005, at 9:20 AM, B.Eric Bradley wrote:

Gotta love the web.

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery? 
Site=B2&Date=20050608&Category=NEWS0102&ArtNo=608003&Ref=PH&Params=Itemn 
r=3


On Friday, June 17, 2005, at 05:56  AM, Anne Cartwright wrote:

I haven't seen the picture. Someone save it for me please.

Anne


On Thursday, June 16, 2005, at 11:05  PM, Mike Watkins wrote:

Group,

If you didn't see the picture in the CJ Neighborhood section this past  
week of Anne Cartwright, you missed a nice one. She was shown buying a  
plant at the Crescent Hill Garden Tour. Good shot, Anne! Not used to  
seeing you outdoors or without computers around.

Mike



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MacGroup: Re: Anne Cartwright is famous!

[Mike Watkins]

Anne,

I did cut it out and will save it for you. In fact, I'll send it to you 
via snail-mail, if you'll send me your mailing address.

Mike


On Jun 17, 2005, at 5:56 AM, Anne Cartwright wrote:

> I haven't seen the picture. Someone save it for me please.
>
> Anne
>
>
> On Thursday, June 16, 2005, at 11:05  PM, Mike Watkins wrote:
>
>> Group,
>>
>> If you didn't see the picture in the CJ Neighborhood section this 
>> past week of Anne Cartwright, you missed a nice one. She was shown 
>> buying a plant at the Crescent Hill Garden Tour. Good shot, Anne! Not 
>> used to seeing you outdoors or without computers around.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>



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MacGroup: Re: Anne Cartwright is famous!

[Mike Watkins]

Group,

If you didn't see the picture in the CJ Neighborhood section this past 
week of Anne Cartwright, you missed a nice one. She was shown buying a 
plant at the Crescent Hill Garden Tour. Good shot, Anne! Not used to 
seeing you outdoors or without computers around.

Mike

  



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MacGroup: less thrilled about 10.3.9

[Mike Watkins]

Marta,

Runing sounds magical to me... maybe it was the right word, after all! 
Runes are sometimes magic charms, as you know.

Mike


On Apr 19, 2005, at 3:30 PM, Marta Edie wrote:

> Meant to say turned  ( o my God) anyway. I survived a kernel panic 
> once and did not even know what it was   It  took some of you to 
> wise me up on it.
> Marta
> On Apr 19, 2005, at 15:03, Marta Edie wrote:
>
>> You just runed around once too much. that's when bad magic happpens.
>> Marta
>> On Apr 19, 2005, at 14:26, Bill Rising wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Folks,
>>>
>>> Here could be a coincidence, could be something bad:
>>>
>>> After updating to 10.3.9 yesterday morning, I had my first-ever 
>>> kernel panic on my work machine today. I was working, back to the 
>>> machine, when iTunes started skipping, as it does often when using 
>>> VPC 7. Since VPC 7 was not running, I turned around to see what was 
>>> going on... and there was the kernel panic screen.
>>>
>>> How would I track down the cause?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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MacGroup: Apple Updates and (Palm errata)

[Mike Watkins]

ey decided to release a couple of updates including 
>>>> 10.3.9. ?Get via Apple's web-site or via SUPP.
>>>>
>>>>  One note: since this is an odd number update a thought of caution 
>>>> for those of you with external Firewire hard-drives connected to 
>>>> your Mac(s). Shutdown the external hard drive before doing the 
>>>> update. Then start the drive back up afterwards.
>>>>
>>>>  Jerry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Apr 16, 2005, at 2:08 PM, Marta Edie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mike. ?I ?learned the hard way. ?Having bought a Zire 71 ( a 
>>>>> couple of years back) I was able to use the hotsync feature (that 
>>>>> is what palm calls it) employing the palm software and make an 
>>>>> addressbook and a datebook ?typing data into the computer or/and 
>>>>> on the Palm (Zire) ,which went fine, but then I had trouble trying 
>>>>> to put the names from my already existent addressbook and date 
>>>>> book ( ICal) from Apple to cooperate. I could not sync them (Apple 
>>>>> calls it isync) ?into my palm. So I found out that I ?had to 
>>>>> disable the conduits for the hotsync operation , so the palm would 
>>>>> not get confused. And since the Mac is already set up to sync with 
>>>>> any palm, that was ?all I had to do. Of course I ?had to call 
>>>>> Apple and/or Palm to tell me where to find them. 
>>>>> ?hd/library/application support/ palm hotsync--- then you take 
>>>>> those conduits into the disabled folder. That folder is in there 
>>>>> already. ( ?I ?left the notes and todos ?in the enabled folder, 
>>>>> ?because I only use these features in my handheld )- and the 
>>>>> pictures ( ?my palm takes pictures) will be synced into pictures 
>>>>> anyway. - I only know this, because ?wanting to use my palm, I 
>>>>> ?had to figure it out.
>>>>>  Marta
>>>>>  On Apr 16, 2005, at 13:02, Mike Watkins wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Marta,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  This E-mail answer of yours is very impressive! I have little or 
>>>>>> no idea what you're talking about, since I've never dealt with a 
>>>>>> Palm Pilot (or any such creature). You sound like a guru 
>>>>>> yourself! Using terms such as cross-sync, hotsynching, and 
>>>>>> software conduits...Wow!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Apr 15, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Marta Edie wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But Harry, if you have a .mac account ?and iDisk and want to 
>>>>>>> sync with other computers, ?or already have an addressbook list 
>>>>>>> ?of names and calendar with data, you need the palm to isync 
>>>>>>> unless you want to retype every address into your new palm pilot 
>>>>>>> individually. -- ?I think, if I remember correctly, that was the 
>>>>>>> question asked. We, ?too, have one palm pilot here at home (my 
>>>>>>> husband's) only hotsyncing to one computer ?using only the palm 
>>>>>>> desktop software for that. And it works well. And I do like the 
>>>>>>> palm software, too. Palm is even nice enough to correspond with 
>>>>>>> you by e-mail and, for that matter, get you the right technician 
>>>>>>> if you tell them their answers were of no help. But if you want 
>>>>>>> to cross-sync between iCal and Apple addressbook with Palm,just 
>>>>>>> having bought a new one, you need to use the isync feature of 
>>>>>>> Apple ?and disable the hotsync feature ?for these two items in 
>>>>>>> the palm software conduits.
>>>>>>>  Marta
>>>>>>>  On Apr 15, 2005, at 16:06, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A while back someone asked about syncing palm pilots to Mac's 
>>>>>>>> address
>>>>>>>>  book, etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I just got a new Palm Tungston E to replace my handspring 
>>>>>>>> visor. I
>>>>>>>>  already had Palm Desktop OS 4.1 on my computer. I was syncing 
>>>>>>>&g

MacGroup: Palm

[Mike Watkins]

Marta,

This E-mail answer of yours is very impressive! I have little or no 
idea what you're talking about, since I've never dealt with a Palm 
Pilot (or any such creature). You sound like a guru yourself! Using 
terms such as cross-sync, hotsynching, and software conduits...Wow!

Mike


On Apr 15, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Marta Edie wrote:

> But Harry, if you have a .mac account  and iDisk and want to sync with 
> other computers,  or already have an addressbook list  of names and 
> calendar with data, you need the palm to isync unless you want to 
> retype every address into your new palm pilot individually. --  I 
> think, if I remember correctly, that was the question asked. We,  too, 
> have one palm pilot here at home (my husband's) only hotsyncing to one 
> computer  using only the palm desktop software for that. And it works 
> well. And I do like the palm software, too. Palm is even nice enough 
> to correspond with you by e-mail and, for that matter, get you the 
> right technician if you tell them their answers were of no help. But 
> if you want to cross-sync between iCal and Apple addressbook with 
> Palm,just having bought a new one, you need to use the isync feature 
> of Apple  and disable the hotsync feature  for these two items in the 
> palm software conduits.
> Marta
> On Apr 15, 2005, at 16:06, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:
>
>> A while back someone asked about syncing palm pilots to Mac's address
>> book, etc.
>>
>> I just got a new Palm Tungston E to replace my handspring visor. I
>> already had Palm Desktop OS 4.1 on my computer. I was syncing my
>> handspring to the Palm software. It worked very well.
>>
>> When I connected the Tungsten E to my computer and hit the hotsync 
>> button
>> it also worked well.
>>
>> I'm very happy with the palm software and have not desire to sync it 
>> to
>> the Address Book or iCal.
>>
>> As they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>> | be April 26. The LCS Web page is .
>> | List posting address: 
>> | List Web page: 
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be April 26. The LCS Web page is .
> | List posting address: 
> | List Web page: 
>



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be April 26. The LCS Web page is .
| List posting address: 
| List Web page: 

MacGroup: RE: web browsers and email clients [bcc][faked-from ]

[Mike Watkins]

Cathy,

I use Mail in the dock of my OSX (the one with the eagle and the 
cancelled stamp) and Safari, and I am well satisfied with both. There's 
no charge for Mail, which is a built-in feature of the OSX programs. I 
have BellSouth's DSL and they will be able to walk you through setting 
everything up, if you need the assistance. I've had good results from 
just calling their customer service reps. They used to be awful when 
Mail was a new feature; all they could tell me was that they didn't 
support it. (Which meant they hadn't yet been trained about it.) Now, 
however, they seem to be on board.

You will still get duplicates of the same mail on the 
webmail.bellsouth.net  website, which is a back-up...  or can be used 
if you're out of town or somewhere else where you have to access your 
mail on someone else's computer. You must be sure not to let that 
webmail site get too full, clearing it occasionally, also. Otherwise, 
you'll be wondering why your mail isn't able to get through to you, 
even though you're deleting it on your Mail program.

Mike

On Mar 9, 2005, at 4:02 PM, Green, Cathy wrote:

> Is there a cost for using Apple Mail, or are the costs run through 
> whatever ISP (in my case Bellsouth) one has?
>
> --
> From: ? Brian O'Neal
> Reply To: ? macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
> Sent: ? Wednesday, March 9, 2005 3:54 PM
> To: ??? macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
> Subject: ?? Re: MacGroup: RE: web browsers and email clients 
> [bcc][faked-from]
>
> I use Apple? Mail and Safari. I quit using explorer when Safari was
> introduced. I use Mozilla for web surfing? on my PC, which is also
>  available for the Mac. I used Entourage in the past. I started using
>  Apples mail client just to try it out, and have continued to use it. I
> do a fair bit of email, more now than when I started with Mail. I have
>  several rules and mailboxes for different lists. I don't see much
>  difference in the two. Entourage may be a bit more full featured, but 
> I
> wouldn't know it since I just write and receive mail.
> I'm sure both have more advanced features, but until I need them I am
>  satisfied with Mail.
>
> Brian O'
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 9, 2005, at 3:38 PM, Green, Cathy wrote:
>
> > Greetings group,
> > Many apologies if this ground has already been covered, but
> >
> > What is the best web browser??? And the best email client?
> >
> > I finally got my settings right to be able to go wireless on 
> Bellsouth
>  > DSL at home and I am dropping aol once I get my address book copied
>  > into the address book that came with my G4 laptop running Panther 
> (OS
> > 10.3).? I don't like the Bellsouth email and I understand that I can
> > use any email client.
> >
> >? But then I hear there are email programs that allow you to have 
> email
>  > going to different clients, where this program (like Incredimail, 
> for
> > example) goes to all your inboxes and pulls all those emails into 
> it.?
>  > I have MS Entourage as part of the MS Office 2004 for Mac bundle, 
> but
> > don't know if that's the better of the options available.?
> >
> >? As for web browsers, I have Safari, Netscape and Explorer, but need
>  > to trash stuff to free up space...? Any insight would be most
>  > appreciated.??
> >
> >? Cathy
>
>
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be March 22. The LCS Web page is .
> | List posting address: 
> | List Web page: 
>
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MacGroup: Security Update 2005-001

[Mike Watkins]

Thanks for the feed-back about the new security update. It popped up 
yesterday as available... again. I gave it another try, and this time 
it did install with no difficulty! I'll probably never know why.

Mike



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be January 25. The LCS Web page is .
| List posting address: 
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MacGroup: Latest Security Update...

[Mike Watkins]

Help! I have tried three times to download the new Security Update 
2005-001, Version 1.0, size 6.8 MB.

Each time it has appeared on a drop-down screen telling me it is 
available. (I am running an iMac with OSX, Version 10.3.7.) Each time, 
I have tried to install it; the blue horizontal progress bar gets about 
half-way across, and that's it. The text reads" Installing (waiting for 
local disks...)

I have left it running for a long time, with no progress past that 
point, during every attempt. What could be wrong? Any suggestions?

Mike



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be January 25. The LCS Web page is .
| List posting address: 
| List Web page: 

MacGroup: Looking for a programmer/Web-site designer

[Mike Watkins]

Jane,
Congratulations to the lucky groom and good luck to you both!
I hadn't heard about your marriage...
Mike



On Jan 13, 2005, at 3:47 PM, jblake at win.net wrote:

>
> On Jan 13, 2005, at 2:08 PM, jblake at win.net wrote:
>
>> Looking for a Web-site designer/programmer
>>
 We're looking for a local programmer/Web-site designer to work at 
 home by the job.

 Must be able to hard code in HTML, CGI, Perl and Java. Should know 
 Dreamweaver and other software applicable to Web-site design and be 
 familiar with the Macintosh and PC platforms. Must be able to 
 program and implement shopping carts and PGP. Must know how to 
 register domain names and register Web sites with search engines. 
 Management experience is a plus.

 This job starts out as part time, but it should grow to full time.

 Please send resumes and Web-site samples to: jblake at win.net

 Thanks so much.

 Jane Blake (recently married and my new last name is Acree...smile)

>>
>> Thanks Lee, for okaying sending this out.
>> Jane Blake Acree
>>
>>
>>
>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>> | be January 25. The LCS Web page is .
>> | List posting address: 
>> | List Web page: 
>>
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be January 25. The LCS Web page is .
> | List posting address: 
> | List Web page: 
>



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be January 25. The LCS Web page is .
| List posting address: 
| List Web page: 

MacGroup: Re: new flag on menu

[Mike Watkins]

I've got the flag, also, and I suspect all of us who have installed all 
the recent updates do.
Mike


On Jan 11, 2005, at 6:45 PM, Bernard Griffis wrote:

> Neal Hammon wrote:
>
>> Not long ago, a little American flag mysteriously appeared on my 
>> window menu, between my  email symbol and the numbers showing the 
>> time of day. I am running a G5 with system 10.3.1. This flag most 
>> certainly was not in my finder window when I first installed system 
>> 10.3.1.
>> When I click on the flag I get a Character Palette, with math 
>> symbols,  or else a Japanese Kana Palette, or other type symbols, 
>> etc.  Who was the little gremlin who installed the American flag on 
>> my computer.
>>
>> Neal Hammon
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>> | be January 25. The LCS Web page is .
>> | List posting address: 
>> | List Web page: 
>>
> I'm another who has the little flag.  B Griffis
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be January 25. The LCS Web page is .
> | List posting address: 
> | List Web page: 
>



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be January 25. The LCS Web page is .
| List posting address: 
| List Web page: 

MacGroup: Test

[Mike Watkins]

Nothing broken here.
Mike

On Jan 3, 2005, at 1:35 PM, George H. Yankey wrote:

> I'm OK Lee
> G. Yankey
> On Sunday, December 26, 2004, at 08:27  PM, Lee Larson wrote:
>
>> This is just a test to see whether some changes to the list broke 
>> anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>> | be January 25. The LCS Web page is .
>> | List posting address: 
>> | List Web page: 
>>
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be January 25. The LCS Web page is .
> | List posting address: 
> | List Web page: 
>



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be January 25. The LCS Web page is .
| List posting address: 
| List Web page: 

MacGroup: Test

[Mike Watkins]

Came through loud and clear at my station. Hope you're enjoying your 
holidays.
Mike

On Dec 26, 2004, at 8:27 PM, Lee Larson wrote:

> This is just a test to see whether some changes to the list broke 
> anything.
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be January 25. The LCS Web page is .
> | List posting address: 
> | List Web page: 
>



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be January 25. The LCS Web page is .
| List posting address: 
| List Web page: 

MacGroup: mirror agent

[Mike Watkins]

Marta,

I clicked on the tinyurl website given as an example by Rex Baldazo, 
and it brought up a bunch of gripes by various folks about the mirror 
image problem you were writing about this week. Did you see that? 
Sounds as though many others were/are having the same problem. In case 
you missed it, or don't have it any longer, the tinyurl is:


Mike

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MacGroup: eek! no mouse!

[Mike Watkins]

Alex,

A couple or so months ago I was having a slow-down, including Internet 
and Mail problems. I called my server, BellSouth, and a knowledgeable 
service rep walked me through some changes in my preferences. I'm not 
sure what we did, but it solved my problem. My iMac is speedy again.

You might try to do the same with Insight BB. Hope your fix is as easy 
as mine was. Good luck.

Mike


On Dec 13, 2004, at 12:38 PM, Alex Whitman wrote:

> And now, on the flat panel iMac, the mouse buttons don't work. The 
> cursor moves, but clicking doesn't do anything. Have tried 2 different 
> mice, which both work fine on the iBook -- an Apple 1-button and a 
> Logitech 2-button with scroll-wheel. Tried plugging them into other 
> USB ports, still no dice.
>
> The iMac also just got the same round of Apple updates and is 
> suffering the same speed issues as the iBook.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex Whitman
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be January 25. The LCS Web page is .
> | List posting address: 
> | List Web page: 
>



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be January 25. The LCS Web page is .
| List posting address: 
| List Web page: 

MacGroup: Hard drive for backup...

[Mike Watkins]

Ward,

Don't feel stupid. That you certainly aren't! No offense was taken... I 
still will do business at MacTown when I can. I just buy very little, 
very seldom. Thanks for the unnecessary apologies.

Mike


On Nov 24, 2004, at 10:36 AM, Ward Oldham wrote:

> Hey Mike,
>
>  My apologizes! ?My apologizes!
>
>  What?s even worse is I intended to reply off list (uggh, that didn?t 
> happen!) so I feel doubly stupid. ?Glad the holidays are coming up. 
> ?Looks like I?m way overdue for some time off!
>
>  Ward ?:)
>
>
>
> From: Mike Watkins 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:22:46 -0500
> To: 
> Subject: Re: MacGroup: Hard drive for backup...
>
>  Ward,
>
>  Not true! I bought the LaCie 250GB Firewire HD from MacTown. I asked 
> for you that day and was told you were "on-site" somewhere. I tried to 
> buy printer ink there last time, too, but you-all didn't have my type 
> in stock. (I use Epson T008201 color and T007201 black.)
>
>  See, I am more loyal than you realize! ?
>
>  Thanks for the Thanksgiving wishes... I plan to have dinner with some 
> friends whom I love dearly. So I know I'll be well fed and well 
> entertained. I wish the same for everyone. ?
>
>  Mike
>
>
>
>  On Nov 24, 2004, at 9:25 AM, Ward Oldham wrote:
>
>
> Hi Mike,
>
>  Well it sounds like someone else is getting your business. ?Wish 
> there was some way we could get you coming back in here. ?Ahh, such is 
> life huh?
>
>  Have a happy Thanksgiving!
>  Ward
>
>
>  Ward Oldham, MacDude
>  MacTown
>  1041 Bardstown Road
>  Louisville, KY ?40204
>  502-485-1243
> ward at mactown.us
> http://www.mactown.us
>
>
>
> From: Mike Watkins 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:29:08 -0500
> To: 
> Subject: MacGroup: Hard drive for backup...
>
> Jerry, Anne, and others;
>
>  I've almost got my backup stuff loaded onto my new LaCie HD. It's
>  taking me awhile to get the concept down... I've never tried to back 
> up
>  things before. This is another whole new world. About the time I think
>  I've done it, I discover I'm wrong! I did get my pictures, documents,
>  etc. done tonight. Now I'm trying to figure out how to back up
>  iTunes... that doesn't work for me.
>
>  When I try to drag my iTunes folder to my LaCie, I am told (on a 
> little
>  drop-down screen) that I have a firewall up preventing me from sharing
>  my music. I don't want to share it with another computer; I just want
>  to back it up to avoid possibly losing it.
>  Can someone help me by explaining, in beginner's language, how to do
>  this? Is it possible?
>
>  Jerry helped me with the general idea and confirmed my hook-up is 
> fine;
>  Anne told me tonight that she was pretty sure I hadn't done it 
> right...
>  she was correct. I had decided to just feed it my whole Mac HD at once
>  to make it easy. All I really had stored was a Mac HD alias. So I came
>  home tonight and fed it some individual folders... which is what Jerry
>  had suggested in the first place. (I put in the lazy shortcut on my
>  own.)
>
>  So, now ... how about iTunes? Hope you-all can help. Thanks. And Happy
>  Thanksgiving to you all.
>
>  Mike
>
>
>
>  | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>  | be January 25. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
>  | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu>
>  | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>
>  ??
>
>
>  
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MacGroup: Hard drive for backup...

[Mike Watkins]

Ward,

Not true! I bought the LaCie 250GB Firewire HD from MacTown. I asked 
for you that day and was told you were "on-site" somewhere. I tried to 
buy printer ink there last time, too, but you-all didn't have my type 
in stock. (I use Epson T008201 color and T007201 black.)

See, I am more loyal than you realize!

Thanks for the Thanksgiving wishes... I plan to have dinner with some 
friends whom I love dearly. So I know I'll be well fed and well 
entertained. I wish the same for everyone.

Mike



On Nov 24, 2004, at 9:25 AM, Ward Oldham wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
>  Well it sounds like someone else is getting your business. ?Wish 
> there was some way we could get you coming back in here. ?Ahh, such is 
> life huh?
>
>  Have a happy Thanksgiving!
>  Ward
>
>
>  Ward Oldham, MacDude
>  MacTown
>  1041 Bardstown Road
>  Louisville, KY ?40204
>  502-485-1243
> ward at mactown.us
> http://www.mactown.us
>
>
>
> From: Mike Watkins 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:29:08 -0500
> To: 
> Subject: MacGroup: Hard drive for backup...
>
> Jerry, Anne, and others;
>
>  I've almost got my backup stuff loaded onto my new LaCie HD. It's
>  taking me awhile to get the concept down... I've never tried to back 
> up
>  things before. This is another whole new world. About the time I think
>  I've done it, I discover I'm wrong! I did get my pictures, documents,
>  etc. done tonight. Now I'm trying to figure out how to back up
>  iTunes... that doesn't work for me.
>
>  When I try to drag my iTunes folder to my LaCie, I am told (on a 
> little
>  drop-down screen) that I have a firewall up preventing me from sharing
>  my music. I don't want to share it with another computer; I just want
>  to back it up to avoid possibly losing it.
>  Can someone help me by explaining, in beginner's language, how to do
>  this? Is it possible?
>
>  Jerry helped me with the general idea and confirmed my hook-up is 
> fine;
>  Anne told me tonight that she was pretty sure I hadn't done it 
> right...
>  she was correct. I had decided to just feed it my whole Mac HD at once
>  to make it easy. All I really had stored was a Mac HD alias. So I came
>  home tonight and fed it some individual folders... which is what Jerry
>  had suggested in the first place. (I put in the lazy shortcut on my
>  own.)
>
>  So, now ... how about iTunes? Hope you-all can help. Thanks. And Happy
>  Thanksgiving to you all.
>
>  Mike
>
>
>
>  | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>  | be January 25. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
>  | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu>
>  | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>
>  
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MacGroup: Hard drive for backup...

[Mike Watkins]

All,
Sorry. I forgot to say that I am using the Panther program on my iMac. 
(It's version 10.3.6.)
Mike


On Nov 24, 2004, at 12:29 AM, Mike Watkins wrote:

> Jerry, Anne, and others;
>
> I've almost got my backup stuff loaded onto my new LaCie HD. It's 
> taking me awhile to get the concept down... I've never tried to back 
> up things before. This is another whole new world. About the time I 
> think I've done it, I discover I'm wrong! I did get my pictures, 
> documents, etc. done tonight. Now I'm trying to figure out how to back 
> up iTunes... that doesn't work for me.
>
> When I try to drag my iTunes folder to my LaCie, I am told (on a 
> little drop-down screen) that I have a firewall up preventing me from 
> sharing my music. I don't want to share it with another computer; I 
> just want to back it up to avoid possibly losing it.
> Can someone help me by explaining, in beginner's language, how to do 
> this? Is it possible?
>
> Jerry helped me with the general idea and confirmed my hook-up is 
> fine; Anne told me tonight that she was pretty sure I hadn't done it 
> right... she was correct. I had decided to just feed it my whole Mac 
> HD at once to make it easy. All I really had stored was a Mac HD 
> alias. So I came home tonight and fed it some individual folders... 
> which is what Jerry had suggested in the first place. (I put in the 
> lazy shortcut on my own.)
>
> So, now ... how about iTunes? Hope you-all can help. Thanks. And Happy 
> Thanksgiving to you all.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be January 25. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
> | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu>
> | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>
>



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be January 25. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
| List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu>
| List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>

MacGroup: Hard drive for backup...

[Mike Watkins]

Jerry, Anne, and others;

I've almost got my backup stuff loaded onto my new LaCie HD. It's 
taking me awhile to get the concept down... I've never tried to back up 
things before. This is another whole new world. About the time I think 
I've done it, I discover I'm wrong! I did get my pictures, documents, 
etc. done tonight. Now I'm trying to figure out how to back up 
iTunes... that doesn't work for me.

When I try to drag my iTunes folder to my LaCie, I am told (on a little 
drop-down screen) that I have a firewall up preventing me from sharing 
my music. I don't want to share it with another computer; I just want 
to back it up to avoid possibly losing it.
Can someone help me by explaining, in beginner's language, how to do 
this? Is it possible?

Jerry helped me with the general idea and confirmed my hook-up is fine; 
Anne told me tonight that she was pretty sure I hadn't done it right... 
she was correct. I had decided to just feed it my whole Mac HD at once 
to make it easy. All I really had stored was a Mac HD alias. So I came 
home tonight and fed it some individual folders... which is what Jerry 
had suggested in the first place. (I put in the lazy shortcut on my 
own.)

So, now ... how about iTunes? Hope you-all can help. Thanks. And Happy 
Thanksgiving to you all.

Mike



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be January 25. The LCS Web page is .
| List posting address: 
| List Web page: 

MacGroup: outage and some

[Mike Watkins]

Marta,

I don't have a .mac account. I'm getting things just fine on my Mail  
program. By the way, I finally did get the Panther system installed. So 
I'm more or less up to date. At least, the computer is.

Mike


On Nov 8, 2004, at 12:08 PM, Marta Edie wrote:

> I am posting this to see whether it reaches all of you at the group. 
> Since the .mac mail was out for a day or so and then the IMAP could 
> not select a server, I am trying to see whether all is well now. I did 
> receive mail from the group for the first time  a little while ago 
> since the day before yesterday. Did all of you having a .mac account 
> have the same problem?
> Marta   
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MacGroup: Pictures in Apple Mail

[Mike Watkins]

Marta,
Wow! What a Halloween cat! I immediately E-mailed it to my daughter for 
a greeting. Thanks!
Mike


On Oct 31, 2004, at 8:43 AM, Marta Edie wrote:

> What I did here I just added a picture to my signature in the 
> preferences in mail -i dragged it in the box where it says 
> "Signatures" for the Halloween fun. However, I don't think the filter 
> in the Macuser group mail will let this graphic in, so my signature 
> will probably be blank. - The other thing you see in Lee's and my mail 
> are done via a .Mac account up there in cyberspace. When I add a 
> picture signature there, it shows up in the header, but don't ask me 
> why. I am always experimenting with things I know nothing about.
> Marta
> On Oct 30, 2004, at 22:10, LLL wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>> Lee or Marta,
>> I notice you and Marta both have pictures in your email.  Are you 
>> using Apple mail?  If so, how do you insert these?
>>>
>> Regards - LLL
>>
>>
>>
>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>> | be October 26. The LCS Web page is .
>> | List posting address: 
>> | List Web page: 



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be October 26. The LCS Web page is .
| List posting address: 
| List Web page: 

MacGroup: Pictures in Apple Mail

[Mike Watkins]

Henri,
Thanks for the link to Howletts. I looked it over thoroughly and do 
wish I could go. I don't see how you had time to reply with all that's 
going on in your lives just now!
Mike


On Oct 31, 2004, at 12:57 AM, Henri Yandell wrote:

>
> If you ever happen to goto England, there is a superb Gorilla 
> sanctuary in Kent (SE England). It's named Howletts and is one of the 
> few enclosed-animal areas I've seen where the animals don't seem 
> trapped (the Rhino enclosure at Louisville Zoo is so depressing).
>
> The founder (John Aspinall) preached close human-animal contact and 
> there's a famous story of how one of the gorilla's took Aspinall's 
> daughter up a tree to mother her. There are a few infamous stories too 
> as they also have a lot of tigers and have had a couple of keeper 
> maulings over the years.
>
> The site (http://www.totallywild.net) is not too impressive, but the 
> park definitely is impressive. In fact, my wife and I honeymooned 
> there (for an afternoon) as due to VISA issues she couldn't leave the 
> country :)
>
> Hen
>
> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004, Mike Watkins wrote:
>
>> Lee,
>> I really like your gorilla pic on your E-mails. I love gorillas, and 
>> collect small gorilla replicas. My house is too little and crowded to 
>> keep one of the real ones.
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2004, at 10:20 PM, Lee Larson wrote:
>>
>>> On Oct 30, 2004, at 10:10 PM, LLL wondered:
>>>> I notice you and Marta both have pictures in your email.  Are you 
>>>> using Apple mail?  If so, how do you insert these?
>>> Apple's mail program will magically mac.com for a picture when an 
>>> address of the form foolishbuyer at mac.com shows up.
>>> LL
>>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>>> | be October 26. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
>>> | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu>
>>> | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>
>>
>>
>>
>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>> | be October 26. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
>> | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu>
>> | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>
>>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be October 26. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
> | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu>
> | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>
>



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be October 26. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
| List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu>
| List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>

MacGroup: Pictures in Apple Mail

[Mike Watkins]

Lee,
I really like your gorilla pic on your E-mails. I love gorillas, and 
collect small gorilla replicas. My house is too little and crowded to 
keep one of the real ones.
Mike


On Oct 30, 2004, at 10:20 PM, Lee Larson wrote:

> On Oct 30, 2004, at 10:10 PM, LLL wondered:
>
>> I notice you and Marta both have pictures in your email.  Are you 
>> using Apple mail?  If so, how do you insert these?
>
> Apple's mail program will magically mac.com for a picture when an 
> address of the form foolishbuyer at mac.com shows up.
>
> LL
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be October 26. The LCS Web page is .
> | List posting address: 
> | List Web page: 
>



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be October 26. The LCS Web page is .
| List posting address: 
| List Web page: 

MacGroup: Birth Announcement - Nathan Henri Yandell

[Mike Watkins]

Henri,

Congratulations to you and your wife Carrie. I looked at the baby 
pictures (cute) and you all look very pleased and happy. Best of luck 
to you all three.

Mike


On Oct 27, 2004, at 9:26 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:

>
> (Carrie writes...)
>
> Henri and I are happy to report that Nathan Henri Yandell was born 
> Friday, October 22, 2004 at 3:19 p.m. He weighed in at 9lb 2oz and
> measured 20 1/4 inches long.
>
> There are pictures and more info at Nathan's website: 
> http://baby.yandell.org/
>
> We are all looking forward to the holidays and introducing Nathan to 
> the world!
>
> Carrie, Henri, and Nathan
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be October 26. The LCS Web page is .
> | List posting address: 
> | List Web page: 
>



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be October 26. The LCS Web page is .
| List posting address: 
| List Web page: 

MacGroup: Re: Powerbook

[Mike Watkins]

Julia,

I don't know anything about which Mac would be best for you. However, I 
have appreciated my Applecare service a great deal. I'd do it again, if 
I had the opportunity. The reps have always been exceedingly helpful, 
and will patiently spend as much time with one as it takes to solve 
one's problem. I do use DSL service, which means that I can be on my 
land-line phone at the same time that they are guiding me through steps.

Mike Watkins

On Monday, October 11, 2004, at 03:55  PM, Julia J. Aegerter wrote:

> I'm thinking about switching to Mac from PC. I would like to get 15"
> notebook.
> I will mostly use for word-processing, spreadsheet and PowerPoint type
> applications.
> Would also like to work with my photos and be able to use internet 
> through
> cable modem and wireless.
>
> Is there a reason why powerbook or ibook would be preferable?
>
> I have read a lot about display problems with 15 in powerbook. (It was 
> on
> the apple site so could be the effect of only problems are written in 
> and so
> seems disproportionately a problem. IS there a know problem?
>
> Third should I buy  the applecare contract?
>
> Thanks for any assistance.
>
>  Julia (Evansville IN)
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be September 28. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
> | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu>
> | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>
>



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be September 28. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
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MacGroup: Apple Updates

[Mike Watkins]

Thanks for the info once again, Jerry.
Mike


On Monday, October 4, 2004, at 05:01  PM, Jerry Yeager wrote:

> Apple has released a security update today (oddly named 9-30-2004) 
> that fixes security hassles with file sharing, printing, QuickTime, 
> and its bundled email server (postfix in Mac OS X 10 Server).
>
> Get it via SUPP.
>
>   Jerry
> ---
> Someday, I will come up with a clever signature line. I am not sure if 
> I will use it or not, but I will come up with one.
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be September 28. The LCS Web page is .
> | List posting address: 
> | List Web page: 
>



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be September 28. The LCS Web page is .
| List posting address: 
| List Web page: 

MacGroup: Very slow DSL...

[Mike Watkins]

All,

I have BellSouth's DSL and have always done very well with it. It used 
to be super fast. Lately, I've been noticing that it's slowing down. 
Yesterday, it refused to even open most websites, even my BellSouth 
webmail. So I called BellSouth. Luckily, I got a rep who knew what to 
do.

He led me through System Preferences to Network. Under Proxies, he then 
instructed me to remove the check before Use Passive FTP Mode (PASV). 
He said it should only be checked if I use a dial-up system.
Wonder of all wonders, it worked... and today my Safari is again 
lightning fast and wonderful. My E-mail has stopped giving me frequent 
warnings that I may not be able to receive mail. I am happy.

The only thing that puzzles me is why this seems to have been a 
progressive slow-down, rather than an immediate failure. I have never 
changed those settings since I have been using Jaguar. (I am on a 15" 
flat screen iMac, version 10.2.8, if that matters.)

Mike



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be August 24. The LCS Web page is .
| List posting address: 
| List Web page: 

MacGroup: Fwd: Cars by Microsoft

[Mike Watkins]

Hen,

Back when you long-time users were reading all these things for the 
first time, I didn't own a computer. I bought my first (and present) 
one in the spring of 2001. So I'm somewhat like the proverbial goose 
who wakes up every day in a whole new world. By now, just a little of 
that world looks familiar, however... I have this group to thank for 
most of that.

I tried following the chain of jokes in the first of the sites you 
list, until I gave up... it goes on and on. So, thanks for the long 
supply of humor, in addition to the other things you and the others 
have given to me.

Mike


On Saturday, August 28, 2004, at 02:00  PM, Henri Yandell wrote:

>
> You may want to edit out the 'recent' :)
>
> There's also an airplane joke out there about what if operating systems
> ran airlines:
>
> http://amused.the-i.org/os-airlines
> http://www.fur.com/nighty/os2.html
> http://www.jestsandjokes.com/show.php3?joke=130
> http://www.sunvv.com/english/article_2443.html
> http://web.ukonline.co.uk/eric.price/humour/hum0012.htm
> http://www.brillianet.com/entertainment/computers/osflight.htm
>
> Multiple links are because in looking for a copy, I found that 
> everybody
> seems to do the same basic stock, then add a few extra of their own.
>
> I couldn't see an OS X entry though :(
>
> Hen
>
> On Sat, 28 Aug 2004, Anne Cartwright wrote:
>
>> I like it, even the last line about Macintosh. In fact I think I'll 
>> put
>> it into one of the next newsletters since not all LCS members 
>> subscribe
>> to the ListServe.
>>
>> Anne Cartwright
>>
>>
 All,
 This is too good to not pass on... and I believe it is suitable for
 our
 list. I got it from a cousin today. Ignore the crack about
 Macintosh...
 at least the last part of the line.
 Mike

 Begin forwarded message:

 "At a recent computer expo (COMDEX), Bill Gates reportedly compared
 the
 computer industry with the auto industry and stated,"If GM had kept 
 up
 with the technology like the computer industry has, we would all be
 driving $25.00 cars that got 1,000 miles to the gallon." In response
 to
 Bill's comments, General Motors issued a press release stating: If 
 GM
 had
 developed technology like Microsoft, we would all be driving cars 
 with
 the following characteristics:

 ?  For no reason whatsoever, your car would crash twice a day.
 ?  Every time they repainted the lines in the road, you would have 
 to
 buy
 a new car.
 ?  Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason. You
 would have to pull over to the side of the road, close all of the
 windows, shut off the car, restart it, and reopen the windows before
 you
 could continue. For some reason you would simply accept this.
 ?  Occasionally, executing a maneuver such as a left turn would 
 cause
 your car to shut down and refuse to restart, in which case you would
 have
 to reinstall the engine.
 ?  Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun, was
 reliable,
 five times as fast and twice as easy to drive - but would run on 
 only
 five percent of the roads.
 ?  The oil, water temperature, and alternator warning lights would
 all be
 replaced by a single "This Car Has Performed An Illegal Operation"
 Warning light.
 ?  The airbag system would ask "Are you sure?" before deploying.
 ?  Occasionally, for no reason whatsoever, your car would lock you 
 out
 and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door
 handle,
 turned the key and grabbed hold of the radio antenna.
 ?  Every time a new car was introduced car buyers would have to 
 learn
 how
 to drive all over again, because none of the controls would operate 
 in
 the same manner as the old car.
 ?  You'd have to press the "Start" button to stop the car. "
>>
>>
>>
>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>> | be August 24. The LCS Web page is .
>> | List posting address: 
>> | List Web page: 
>>
>
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be August 24. The LCS Web page is .
> | List posting address: 
> | List Web page: 
>




| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be August 24. The LCS Web page is .
| List posting address: 
| List Web page: 

MacGroup: Fwd: Cars by Microsoft

[Mike Watkins]

All,
This is too good to not pass on... and I believe it is suitable for our 
list. I got it from a cousin today. Ignore the crack about Macintosh... 
at least the last part of the line.
Mike

Begin forwarded message:

> "At a recent computer expo (COMDEX), Bill Gates reportedly compared 
> the computer industry with the auto industry and stated,"If GM had 
> kept up with the technology like the computer industry has, we would 
> all be driving $25.00 cars that got 1,000 miles to the gallon." In 
> response to Bill's comments, General Motors issued a press release 
> stating: If GM had developed technology like Microsoft, we would all 
> be driving cars with the following characteristics:
>
> ? For no reason whatsoever, your car would crash twice a day.
> ? Every time they repainted the lines in the road, you would have to 
> buy a new car.
> ? Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason. You 
> would have to pull over to the side of the road, close all of the 
> windows, shut off the car, restart it, and reopen the windows before 
> you could continue. For some reason you would simply accept this.
> ? Occasionally, executing a maneuver such as a left turn would cause 
> your car to shut down and refuse to restart, in which case you would 
> have to reinstall the engine.
> ? Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun, was 
> reliable, five times as fast and twice as easy to drive - but would 
> run on only five percent of the roads.
> ? The oil, water temperature, and alternator warning lights would all 
> be replaced by a single "This Car Has Performed An Illegal Operation" 
> Warning light.
> ? The airbag system would ask "Are you sure?" before deploying.
> ? Occasionally, for no reason whatsoever, your car would lock you out 
> and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door 
> handle, turned the key and grabbed hold of the radio antenna.
> ? Every time a new car was introduced car buyers would have to learn 
> how to drive all over again, because none of the controls would 
> operate in the same manner as the old car.
> ? You'd have to press the "Start" button to stop the car. "
>
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MacGroup: On to Greener Pastures

[Mike Watkins]

Marta,

Welcome back! Have missed you and your wonderful E-mails. I like the 
new "fellowines" word you created... I'll wait for it to make the 
dictionaries soon.

Mike


On Friday, August 13, 2004, at 01:46  PM, Marta Edie wrote:

>  Fri Aug 13, 2004  1:46:19  PM US/Eastern
> To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
> Subject: Re: MacGroup: On to Greener Pastures
> Reply-To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
>
> Dear Kay,
> my last comment, since I was out of the country, but, while not 
> getting involved in writing, I nevertheless kept reading your vicious 
> and totally beyond the subject matter comments. I remember very well 
> the attack towards me, then towards Hen and Ward, then Cathy,  and 
> even toward Lee who no more than sent you a humourous comment. I am 
> glad you realized that it would be of your and our benefit that you 
> withdraw from the group,  which you invaded like Donner and Blitzen, 
> read us all the riot act, offered your innumerable  and mysterious 
> credentials which would fill three or more lifetimes of work of any 
> individual, scared the innocent Macuser out of his or her (in the last 
> case a new user group member, Cathy) wits, kept the attacks going 
> toward different individuals off list, and if anybody at Apple asked 
> you to get more involved with local groups - may God forgive that 
> person. You brought no enlightenment, only disharmony. So for our 
> harmony's sake, I bid you farewell, I shall never answer another of 
> your postings, nor will I read them, but "delete" or better even "cut" 
> will be my click to safety and sanity. Perhaps some of my Mac-comrades 
> will do the same. I love this group. It has taught me all I know about 
> the Mac. I owe this knowledge to the selflessness of its members, and 
> their encouragement.  The many wonderful discoveries I was able to 
> make, and the humour with which some of the postings were spiced, all 
> of them I cherished and drew joy from them, new knowlege, and, yes, 
> even grew in wisdom. Thanks to all you good fellows and fellowines ( I 
> just coined this new word- no- it does not rhyme with "wine", but with 
> "ween" and some day  might even make the New Oxford dictionary! and 
> boost my credentials!) You are great!- And now - let's get on with the 
> real stuff we are about. Thanks,
> Marta
> On Aug 6, 2004, at 11:23, KR'sListMail wrote:
>
>> Dear Group,
>> This is a letter below, is one I sent in response to group member 
>> here on this list, that has been very supportive to me the past few 
>> weeks. Rather than, rewrite another letter to this group, I decided 
>> this one, was just as good to post here to you all too.
>> If any of you would like to write to me, and be part of my future 
>> plans, (and see my presentations of the Apple beta software and 
>> graphic software) please contact me directly, by my email address. I 
>> am very sorry about the situation here on this list, and I feel it is 
>> time now to go on to greener pastures. Take care and goodbye. Yours 
>> Kay
>> .
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am leaving this list soon. I am getting over my cold, and have had 
>> a chance to clear my head today. I've been thinking this morning 
>> about this weird mac group.
>>
>> The thing is, I don't need this kind of silly list flamewars, and BS 
>> in my life. I have so much to do right now, and plus my classes are 
>> starting soon. My reason for being here- I have to be frank with you 
>> about one thing. Last spring- It is a Apple Rep that asked me to be 
>> more active with the local Apple Group here. He knew I have been 
>> Officer at several other groups and wanted me to show some of the 
>> beta testing I was doing, etc. I gritted my teeth when they asked. 
>> But then I thought, oh well maybe this group has changed.
>>
>> The issue is, that other groups in cities of this size have grown. 
>> Some have even have 2 or more groups. This one hasn't gained any 
>> members in 15 years.  Apple wants to know--Why?
>>
>> I quit coming to this group, years ago, when Randy started the Art 
>> Software's group. This group, sort of died then, but came back a bit, 
>> after Randy stopped doing the group. Now, It has gotten worse, than 
>> when I left-- It is so inbred and boring. I really don't see how they 
>> have kept their legal status as a non-profit, Apple group. They are 
>> not following the rules that Apple groups are supposed to follow. 
>> They collect dues, but where does the money go? There is no Board, 
>> there are no Officers, there is no voting on the leaders. No 
>> Treasurer's report.  No group representation sent to Apple MacWorld, 
>> to attend the big user group meeting there. No outreach to new 
>> members. These are all the things that are supposed to be done in an 
>> "Official Apple Group".  I would serve on the Board on this one, to 
>> help out, and get things in line, but there is no board!  I asked 
>> Harry about that issue, in June. He said they have 

MacGroup: What's up with my Mail?

[Mike Watkins]

John,

Thanks for the method... works great. Though I have Jaguar (an older 
kitty) it works fine within this system, also.  Good help!

Mike


On Monday, August 9, 2004, at 07:19  AM, John Robinson wrote:

> Mike,
>
> I have never used your system to undo a mistake to the trash, but in 
> Panther I just click on the trash icon in the mailboxes column and 
> drag the mistake back to the folder where I want it.  One click to the 
> activate the trash folder, one drag to the folder I want, very simple.
>
> John R.
>



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be August 24. The LCS Web page is .
| List posting address: 
| List Web page: 

MacGroup: What's up with my Mail?

[Mike Watkins]

All,

Once in awhile, I press delete and mistakenly send an E-mail to my 
trash. As soon as I realize I really wanted to keep it in my In Box, I 
go to Message in the top Menu Bar and, under Message, click on Transfer 
to "On My Mac" Again. This used to undo my Delete and return it to my 
In screen. I have recently tried it (several times) and it just totally 
disappears from all the Mail categories. What's up with my Mail? I am 
using Jaguar.

Did some security or other update perhaps change it? There is also a 
Transfer under Messages. That will, if I slide the cursor to the right, 
give me a choice of where to transfer the message. That may work, but 
is more trouble, and I don't see why the way I used to do it would 
still be listed under Message if it doesn't do what it says now. Is 
that confusing enough? I hope you know what I'm asking about.

Mike 
  



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be August 24. The LCS Web page is .
| List posting address: 
| List Web page: 

MacGroup: Re: Copying

[Mike Watkins]

To Whom It May Concern,

Ward, you don't owe anyone an apology. You did not incite the riot.

And, Kay, I don't know you... but you seem to need a lesson in 
appropriate communications, even when you are in direct opposition to 
someone. You are being extremely rude. It seems to me that if you feel 
another person is mistaken in their ideas, you could get better results 
by being less angry in your responses. I am an artist, also... you may 
be more financially successful than I have ever been; but I'd be 
willing to bet that I am a happier person. It's not even a case of men 
ganging up on a professional woman. I am a woman, also, and not a 
doormat for anyone. Yet I have never taken such a tone with anyone.

Angry words (such as you are persisting in using) usually tend to leave 
one with egg on one's face. If the omelet fits, wear it. (Sorry ... I 
couldn't rest being just a little snide. I'm not perfect.)

I don't believe that Hen would want to interfere in any way with your 
making your living. He was just trying to answer another list member's 
question.

Mike




On Wednesday, August 4, 2004, at 07:20  PM, Ward Oldham wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> I have responded directly to Kay and wish to apologize to the group 
> for unknowingly inciting a riot. ?:)
>
> Ward
>
> Ward Oldham, MacDude
> MacTown
> 1041 Bardstown Road
> Louisville, KY ?40204
> 502-485-1243
> ward at mactown.us
> http://www.mactown.us
>

>
> From: KR'sListMail 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 18:36:43 -0400
> To: 
> Subject: MacGroup: Re: Copying
>
> Ward,
>
> In response to your post, you wrote
>
> > From: Ward Oldham 
> > Subject: Re: MacGroup: Re: Copying
> >
> > But to slap someone down, bloody their nose and tell them they're
> > uninformed
> > and totally ignorant is uncalled for!
> >
>
> You say I don't have the right to protest someone stealing my or my
> clients work?
> Just, WHO is sticking whose nose in it?
>
> When someone makes jokes about stealing entertainment artists' works,
> your clients works, and even goes so far to describe methods and ways
> to steal one's own work? I am supposed to sit silently by and smile
> like a fool? ?His post made me FURIOUS. I couldn't believe he had to
> the gaul, the nerve to argue with me about my artwork and my creative
> property rights here like he did.
>
> As Henri knows, I am an Entertainment Artist and Architectural
> Designer. Along the past twenty years, I have worked for Warner,
> Disney, Universal, HBO, Paramount, Universal, Ripley, Blockbuster,
> Virgin, and a handful of other entertainment companies. I have sold or
> copyrighted my work to my clients. ?My work appears on studio CDs,
> Films, DVDs etc. I make my LIVING selling conceptual ideas for media
> projects Theme parks, Stores, CDs, and DVDs. ?We aren't talking about a
> far away planet here, with people he doesn't know. We are talking about
> MY life's work, and MY Clients who have bought and paid for my work.
>
> And so, here is Henri, telling people on this list, about ways to copy
> and steal some of my DVD works!!! ?Right in front of me??? What nerve!
>
> Ward, If someone stepped in your store, smashed out the windows, and
> stole YOUR goods, and threatened your industry 24 hours a day, with
> threats of theft? ?How would you feel about that? And then if the guy,
> strutted around and talked about doing these things to your Clients,
> and taking your goods, and using them and doing so, RIGHT in front of
> your face??? And then went on and even explained to others here, ways
> that they could break into your store, next week and steal again and
> again. And then argued with you how all of this is is OK, and how
> stealing your work is "their Right"??? And to go on and on, how it is
> COOL and FUNNY stealing your work is?
>
> So given this truth, WHO Is pushing WHOSE buttons here? ?I would like
> to see how YOU would react, Ward, if someone made jokes about stealing
> from your friends, clients and vendors work like that, right in front
> of you!
>
> I don't find his comments funny, at all- nor his guidance good or right
> to the people on this list. And don't feel a bit sorry for speaking my
> mind about his bad behaviour and words, in due concern. ?I only wish I
> had spoken up sooner, and expressed that I felt What he is doing is
> WRONG, and I DON'T LIKE IT.
>
> So here is my final word on this subject:
> It is not Henri's ?RIGHT to reproduce MY copyrighted works or
> the content on my studio clients DVDs.
> Not now, not ever. ?Period.
>
> And if he does do so?
> I DON'T want to know about it, not here, not anywhere.
> Otherwise, I will be obligated to report it. Understand?
>
> I am filled with pity after listening to some of you people.
> How insensitive you are, how full of self-rightiousness to
> do whatever you want. Such bad karma...
>
> Obviously, after reading the latest posts, I do see how some of you
> feel it is very ok to steal a creative person's work and use it however
> you wish, without asking 

MacGroup: Fwd:

[Mike Watkins]

George,
What Message? This is all I got in your E-mail.
Mike


On Saturday, July 31, 2004, at 08:19  AM, George H. Yankey wrote:

> I keep getting the following  message in my E-mail.  What does it 
> mean?  Why does it show up two or three times a week?
>
> George Yankey
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> Date: Sat Jul 31, 2004  7:15:10  AM US/Eastern
>>
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be July 27. The LCS Web page is .
> | List posting address: 
> | List Web page: 
>



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MacGroup: Users...

[Mike Watkins]

Everybody,

Thanks for the great responses. I guess since I'm not a wireless user I 
won't have a problem. I will pass on the answers to my friends in the 
immediate neighborhood, though... some do use an Airport set-up. My 
good friend across the street, for instance, may not know about the 
WEP/ WAP difference. You people are all so smart and good about 
helping! I'm glad to have found the MacGroup.

Mike


On Wednesday, July 21, 2004, at 10:42  PM, John Robinson wrote:

> Bryan,
>
> Glad this discussion got started, I have just changed my protection to 
> WAP for you stated it is more robust than than the WEP which I had 
> previously.  I used the WAP Personal, I hope this is correct, but what 
> is the difference between the two and why is WAP more robust?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> John R.
>
>
> On Jul 21, 2004, at 10:23 PM, Bryan Forrest wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike -
>>
>> If you don't have a wireless setup in your home, then you don't have 
>> a lot to worry about. Can someone tap into your internet connection? 
>> Yes, but it's not going to be an easy task. Your computer is 
>> physically hardwired to the cable modem, so someone would have to tap 
>> your phone line either inside or outside your home. Unless you are 
>> being investigated by the FBI, Homeland Security, or the Mob, I 
>> wouldn't worry about it too much.
>>
>> If you had a wireless connection, security would be much more serious 
>> an issue. Wireless has several levels of security.
>> 1. Closed network - Assign a name to your AP. By doing this, someone 
>> would have to know the name of your network to log in. This isn't 
>> difficult if they are sniffing for wireless networks. As soon as 
>> someone logs in, they have the name. It's OK for starters, but I 
>> wouldn't rely on it.
>> 2. Set a WEP password - In order to log into the base station, you 
>> will need to know both the name of the network and the password. 
>> Better security, but not perfect. WEP has been cracked, so with 
>> enough packets collected a hacker can get your WEP password and 
>> access your network. If you have an Airport Extreme or Express, you 
>> can use WAP instead, much more robust and secure.
>> 3. MAC address filtering - Each network device has a 12 digit hex 
>> code that serves as a unique identifier for that device. If you 
>> restrict access to your router to the network devices you own, that 
>> will discourage passersby from logging into your network. If their 
>> MAC address isn't registered in your router, they can't connect. 
>> Again, not a perfect solution, in that a smart user can see who is 
>> currently connected to a wireless network and then spoof a MAC 
>> address from someone already authenticated.
>> 4. Turn on your Firewall software in OS X. This won't keep someone 
>> from accessing your network, but it will help to keep them out of 
>> your computer if they do access your network.
>>
>> Obviously, none of the solutions above are perfect, but by providing 
>> a multi-layered security plan, you should be much safer than your 
>> neighbors. And for the most part, war drivers are going to find the 
>> path of least resistance.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> --
>> Bryan C. Forrest
>> Macintosh Specialist & Asst. Network Administrator
>> LifeNet
>> http://www.lifenet.org
>>
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2004, at 8:29 PM, Mike Watkins wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Is there anything I need to do to protect my computer's DSL service 
>>> from being used by someone outside my home? I do not have a 
>>> wireless/ airport type set-up... just a regular BellSouth high speed 
>>> DSL conection.
>>>
>>> There's a kid in our neighborhood who is lurking outside some of my 
>>> neighbor's houses to use their internet on his laptop... I've seen 
>>> him by two of my neighbor's houses, and that's what he says he's 
>>> doing. He told me he didn't think they'd mind. (Of course, they're 
>>> not home at the time.) He sat out in front of my next-door 
>>> neighbor's for several hours on Monday. She doesn't have a wireless 
>>> set-up, either... perhaps he was really tapping into the folks 
>>> across the street's system?
>>>
>>> If he or someone else can access my internet, what are the dangers 
>>> to my system? I don't know how skilled he is. If he did anything 
>>> illegal using my connection, or if his computer had a virus, 

MacGroup: Users...

[Mike Watkins]

All,

Is there anything I need to do to protect my computer's DSL service 
from being used by someone outside my home? I do not have a wireless/ 
airport type set-up... just a regular BellSouth high speed DSL 
conection.

There's a kid in our neighborhood who is lurking outside some of my 
neighbor's houses to use their internet on his laptop... I've seen him 
by two of my neighbor's houses, and that's what he says he's doing. He 
told me he didn't think they'd mind. (Of course, they're not home at 
the time.) He sat out in front of my next-door neighbor's for several 
hours on Monday. She doesn't have a wireless set-up, either... perhaps 
he was really tapping into the folks across the street's system?

If he or someone else can access my internet, what are the dangers to 
my system? I don't know how skilled he is. If he did anything illegal 
using my connection, or if his computer had a virus, or whatever... 
what could happen? Would you report him to anyone... and, if so, who?

Anyone know about this stuff?

Mike



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be July 27. The LCS Web page is .
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| List Web page: 

MacGroup: network stuttering...

[Mike Watkins]

Frank,

I have never used Insight for my computer... they annoy me enough as my 
cable TV provider. I find getting through to anyone can be extremely 
frustrating at times. I do use BellSouth DSL, and have never had any 
problems with their service. My downloads are fast, and always work 
fine. I haven't timed it for awhile; last time I did it was way up 
there in speed... I'm happy. The only thing I don't like is paying my 
monthly bill for it... guess there has to be a catch somewhere.

Mike


On Monday, July 12, 2004, at 10:29  PM, Frank Hammitt wrote:

> My own experience is similar to yours. Very slow downloads (similar to 
> a dial-up connection) on both small and larger files. A speed test 
> indicated a reasonable 1.8 to 2.3 MBPS (I can?t see how that it is 
> accurate) but in reality, all web pages are loading slowly. I feel 
> something is afoot with the the broadband supplier. I had a better 
> connection in a north central Mexico Hampton Inn last week.
>
> An inquiry call to Insight Broadband yielded a 26 minute wait that 
> terminated in me hanging up before they responded. At least I didn?t 
> have to listen to the inane babbling of Bob Sokoler (sp) and Terry 
> Minor encouraging me to sign up for more services.
>
> How are those of you on DSL faring? I am considering a switch.
>
> FH
> ?
> On 7/12/04 9:42 PM, "Bill Rising"  wrote:
>
> Hey Folks,
>
> I'm sitting here trying to learn some Good Stuff while listening to
> music from my computer at work (via the nice, old iTunes 4.0). For the
> first time I can remember, the stream is choppy enough that the music
> is interrupted every, oh, 10 seconds, max. Really *&^$)(*&^! annoying.
>
> I logged into the machine at work, and saw that it is running its usual
> processes. Nothing nasty.
>
> I went to download a file via sftp (secure file transfer protocol), and
> saw that the transfer rate was a measly 25KB/sec. It normally is
> roughly 330KB/sec. I checked again, and it was down to 15KB/sec. (B for
> Byte, not b for bit) This is really pitiful - no wonder iTunes was
> choking.
>
> I went and downloaded some game from versiontracker (something big
> enough to be able to measure the time), and found that I was getting
> about 100KB/sec.
>
> Anyone know any tricks for trying to find out where the slowdown might
> be?
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be July 27. The LCS Web page is .
> | List posting address: 
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>
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MacGroup: E-mail pictures

[Mike Watkins]

Jerry, or anyone who knows;

I wasn't able to find the "Make Windows Friendly Attachment" checkbox 
anywhere, either. We talked about that  at our last group meeting... I 
believe Ward pointed it out to us. With the Mail program opened, I went 
to Edit, then Attachments, then Always Send... or at least I tried to 
do that, following Ward's instructions for the route. The problem was 
that the route didn't exist on Jaguar... are you sure this isn't only a 
Panther thing?

Mike





On Wednesday, December 31, 1969, at 07:55  PM, George H. Yankey wrote:

> Jerry, Thanks for the suggestion; however, I do not find the option " 
> Make Windows Friendly Attachment" checkbox anywhere in my Mail > program.
>
> George
>
> On Sunday, July 4, 2004, at 01:20  PM, Jerry Yeager wrote:
>
>> Hello George,
>>
>> When you use Apple's Mail to send the photos using the attach method, 
>> are you clicking on the "Make Windows Friendly Attachment" checkbox 
>> at the bottom of the dialog box?
>> What happens when you drag and drop a photo directly into the mail 
>> message?
>>
>> Some things to watch out for as well:
>>
>> Make sure the photo ends in the correct extension; that is jpeg 
>> photos end in .jpg (dot-j-p-g) and tiff photos end in .tif >> (dot-t-i-f)
>> How many places the message travels through before it gets to the 
>> destination can cause problems. Some transfer points will not let 
>> individual messages bigger than 1 MB travel through, so make sure the 
>> photos are not the bigger 4MB(+)  jpegs.  You make have to down-size 
>> and compress the jpeg to get it small enough to travel.
>>
>> Some spam filters will try to neutralize jpegs etc., under the 
>> assumption they may be spam or viruses. So your recipients may have 
>> to check with their admin to see if this is happening.
>> At various times, ISPs like AOL would block things so no matter which 
>> email client you use to send with (or which platform you did it from) 
>> they would not get the photos.
>>
>> If all else fails and you have a web-site, pop them up on the site 
>> somewhere and let them "right-click" the image to download it to 
>> their hard drive.
>>
>>  Jerry
>>
>> On Jul 04, 2004, at 7:55 AM, George H. Yankey wrote:
>>
>>> Harry,
>>> I know you are highly involved in digital photography.  What is the 
>>> best way to e-mail a photo to a PC Windows user?  I would appreciate 
>>> any suggestions. I have tried using " Mail "  and the " Attach "  
>>> feature ;
>>> also I tried  IPhoto's e-mail  .  In each case PC users tell me they 
>>> can't open the picture.
>>>
>>> George Yankey
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>>> | be July 27. The LCS Web page is .
>>> | List posting address: 
>>> | List Web page: 
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Slowly and surely the unix crept up on the Nintendo user ...
>> --
>>
>> ---
>> Someday, I will come up with a clever signature line. I am not sure 
>> if I will use it or not, but I will come up with one.
>>
>>
>>
>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>> | be July 27. The LCS Web page is .
>> | List posting address: 
>> | List Web page: 
>>
>
>
>
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> | be July 27. The LCS Web page is .
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MacGroup: Meeting 6/22/04

[Mike Watkins]

Mark and Ward,

Thanks for the help. I came home and immediately took everything out of 
my Macintosh HD Documents file and distributed the stuff in my Home 
files. It will probably prove to be easier somewhere down the line. I 
lost a couple of items while I was dragging them to my desktop in the 
process of the transfers. Where do things like that go? They weren't in 
my trash. I did look there. No telling what Purgatorial spot they are 
trapped within!

I also tried, under Mail,to go to Edit, to Attachments, to Always send 
in Windows acceptable/compatible(?) mode. There is no such route in 
Jaguar. Must be a Panther thing. I will try soon to get Toast and some 
DVD's to use for backing up my system.

Appreciate the answers, even if I didn't truly understand all of them 
completely.

Mike



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be June 22. The LCS Web page is .
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MacGroup: Screen Saver....

[Mike Watkins]

Oops! I put a comma instead of a period in that screen saver website 
address, thereby rendering it un usable as a click-on item.

It should be 

Sorry about that!

Mike


On Sunday, April 25, 2004, at 05:49  PM, Mike Watkins wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I can't recall who among us mentioned a wonderful screen saver a few 
> months ago. However, I would like to testify that I have been using it 
> and find it an amazing source of beautiful images. It can be endlessly 
> experimented with and changed to get many patterns and colors, etc.
>
> The website where it can be downloaded (free of charge) (or donation, 
> if one chooses) is as follows.
>
> 
>
> I use it on Jaguar... it may be only compatible for OSX. Check it out. 
> If nothing else, it will give you plenty to do with your time, just 
> trying out new creations.
>
> Mike
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MacGroup: Screen Saver....

[Mike Watkins]

Folks,

I can't recall who among us mentioned a wonderful screen saver a few 
months ago. However, I would like to testify that I have been using it 
and find it an amazing source of beautiful images. It can be endlessly 
experimented with and changed to get many patterns and colors, etc.

The website where it can be downloaded (free of charge) (or donation, 
if one chooses) is as follows.



I use it on Jaguar... it may be only compatible for OSX. Check it out. 
If nothing else, it will give you plenty to do with your time, just 
trying out new creations.

Mike
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MacGroup: keychain entry

[Mike Watkins]

I'm in favor of a reward, myself. Ransoms usually seem to set very 
high. And perhaps we could work out a plan to also keep the gorilla... 
I have some odd jobs around the house he could possibly be trained to 
do. I need some painting and some insulation work. If it all worked out 
we could hire him out to other people who need help, and put a few 
dollars in our MacGroup coffers! Better than a bake sale!
Mike

On Saturday, April 24, 2004, at 01:03  AM, Jerry Yeager wrote:

> Should we offer a reward or pay the ransom (which do you think costs 
> less)?
> I can kick in a buck or two ... (smile)
>
>   Jerry
>
> On Apr 24, 2004, at 12:47 AM, Mike Watkins wrote:
>
>> Marta,
>> I don't have a .mac mail account, and it seems I may be missing 
>> something! I really like gorillas; in fact I collect them (toys, 
>> etc./ not real ones). And you know I love cats... If Lee's been 
>> kidnapped and a gorilla has taken his place, that sounds intriguing. 
>> A mystery!
>> Mike
>>
>> On Friday, April 23, 2004, at 11:32  PM, Marta Edie wrote:
>>
>>> That's probably why Lee's portrait in the .mac account is a gorilla. 
>>> Jeff, I never understand that you  cannot seem to understand my 
>>> jokes. I am sure Lee did get the hint about the Zambia bit. I do 
>>> need a laugh once in a while. I need to entertain myself to divert 
>>> my pains . You don't have a .mac mail account and therefore don't 
>>> receive the gorilla picture when you get mail from Lee. I went into 
>>> history as a Heinzelmann in my mail and presently my signature is as 
>>> a cat!
>>> Marta
>>> On Apr 23, 2004, at 23:21, Jeff @ SLYN Systems wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Marta,
>>>> .za is South Africa.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Slyn, Owner
>>>> SLYN Systems & Peripherals
>>>> (502) 426-5469
>>>> serving Kentuckiana clients 7 days a week since 1985!
>>>>
>>>> -- Marta Edie  wrote:
>>>> I don't know how, but I always get myself into these situations. 
>>>> Just
>>>> as I am working hard in trying to get to understand just a bit about
>>>> this keychain business ,I find these two entries called freemail -
>>>> Certificates. I thought perhaps if I printed them out, in 
>>>> certificate
>>>> form  ???  I might receive something for free , because 
>>>> according
>>>> to the dates, they are good until next year. But after trying to put
>>>> them on my desktop in true certificate splendor , they only yielded 
>>>> the
>>>> same letter number combinations  and a country like ZA, perhaps 
>>>> Zambia?
>>>> , so I thought nothing free for me could come from Africa or 
>>>> Australia
>>>> or even Canada, and from Lee, I believe what is free from him, is 
>>>> the
>>>> MacUser advice, which indeed IS something very valuable, considering
>>>> what I have to pay for an hour's advice if it does not come through 
>>>> the
>>>> group. So here go thanks to Lee for past, present and future help.
>>>> Marta
>>>> On Apr 23, 2004, at 22:55, Jerry Yeager wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't know Steve, this could be the kidnappers stalling for 
>>>>> time. If
>>>>> they send out a ransom note, we will know for certain. (Smile),
>>>>>
>>>>>   Jerry
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 23, 2004, at 10:07 PM, Lee Larson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2004, at 8:31 PM, Marta Edie worried:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> People, I have in my keychain this Thawte freemail entry. What 
>>>>>>> is it
>>>>>>> and how did it get there? I know it must have something to do 
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the MacGroup, because somewhere along this very long gibberish I
>>>>>>> find Lee Larson's name and e-mail address. Please tell me what 
>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>> and what it does and how it got there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A month or so ago, I accidentally posted a message here with my
>>>>>> digital signature attached. Your mail program dutifully grabbed my
>>>>>> public key off the signature and placed it in your keychain. All
>>>>>> worked as it should. You can keep it i

MacGroup: keychain entry

[Mike Watkins]

Marta,
I don't have a .mac mail account, and it seems I may be missing 
something! I really like gorillas; in fact I collect them (toys, etc./ 
not real ones). And you know I love cats... If Lee's been kidnapped and 
a gorilla has taken his place, that sounds intriguing. A mystery!
Mike

On Friday, April 23, 2004, at 11:32  PM, Marta Edie wrote:

> That's probably why Lee's portrait in the .mac account is a gorilla. 
> Jeff, I never understand that you  cannot seem to understand my jokes. 
> I am sure Lee did get the hint about the Zambia bit. I do need a laugh 
> once in a while. I need to entertain myself to divert my pains . You 
> don't have a .mac mail account and therefore don't receive the gorilla 
> picture when you get mail from Lee. I went into history as a 
> Heinzelmann in my mail and presently my signature is as a cat!
> Marta
> On Apr 23, 2004, at 23:21, Jeff @ SLYN Systems wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Marta,
>> .za is South Africa.
>>
>> Jeff Slyn, Owner
>> SLYN Systems & Peripherals
>> (502) 426-5469
>> serving Kentuckiana clients 7 days a week since 1985!
>>
>> -- Marta Edie  wrote:
>> I don't know how, but I always get myself into these situations. Just
>> as I am working hard in trying to get to understand just a bit about
>> this keychain business ,I find these two entries called freemail -
>> Certificates. I thought perhaps if I printed them out, in certificate
>> form  ???  I might receive something for free , because according
>> to the dates, they are good until next year. But after trying to put
>> them on my desktop in true certificate splendor , they only yielded 
>> the
>> same letter number combinations  and a country like ZA, perhaps 
>> Zambia?
>> , so I thought nothing free for me could come from Africa or Australia
>> or even Canada, and from Lee, I believe what is free from him, is the
>> MacUser advice, which indeed IS something very valuable, considering
>> what I have to pay for an hour's advice if it does not come through 
>> the
>> group. So here go thanks to Lee for past, present and future help.
>> Marta
>> On Apr 23, 2004, at 22:55, Jerry Yeager wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know Steve, this could be the kidnappers stalling for time. 
>>> If
>>> they send out a ransom note, we will know for certain. (Smile),
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> On Apr 23, 2004, at 10:07 PM, Lee Larson wrote:
>>>
 On Apr 23, 2004, at 8:31 PM, Marta Edie worried:

> People, I have in my keychain this Thawte freemail entry. What is 
> it
> and how did it get there? I know it must have something to do with
> the MacGroup, because somewhere along this very long gibberish I
> find Lee Larson's name and e-mail address. Please tell me what it 
> is
> and what it does and how it got there.

 A month or so ago, I accidentally posted a message here with my
 digital signature attached. Your mail program dutifully grabbed my
 public key off the signature and placed it in your keychain. All
 worked as it should. You can keep it in your keychain, or delete it.

 I suspect most X.3 users on this list who use Apple's mail now have
 my public key in their keychain.



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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> | be April 27. The LCS Web page is .
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>>
>>
>>
>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>> | be April 27. The LCS Web page is .
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>> | List Web page: 
>>
>>
>> 
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MacGroup: web mail [.mac gripe]

[Mike Watkins]

Marta,
When I got my iMac a bit over two years ago, I bought an Apple Care 
plan for three years. I seldom call them lately; but tech support calls 
are free and they will patiently walk me through a problem while 
they're on the line. I've already started wondering if I can renew that 
plan when it's due to run out. It's been great.
Mike
On Wednesday, April 14, 2004, at 12:19  PM, Marta Edie wrote:

> Rex, at least that makes sense in a way and gives some comfort to us 
> and perhaps a reason . And when there is a reason one can accept a 
> certain inconvenience. I had been thinking about that chat based 
> possibility, not so much as a replacement for e-mail , but as a means 
> to get handsfree communication with tech support when you  speak on 
> the phone and need both of your hands to find these ever entangled 
> cords, buttons etc. I would even be willing to buy one of those 
> cameras to see the person I would be actually chatting to- even with a 
> distorted image.
> Marta
> On Apr 14, 2004, at 11:37, Rex Baldazo wrote:
>
>> Not to be an apologist for Apple, but a lot of Web sites are removing
>> email support links *because* of spam.  What happens is that spammers
>> are crawling Web sites looking for posted email addresses to add into
>> their catalog.  Which means the support email address gets flooded 
>> with
>> spam and it's impossible to locate legitimate customer contact from 
>> that
>> flood of spammage.
>>
>> So a lot of sites are moving to forms-based submissions instead of
>> email-based.
>>
>> Not saying it's a good thing, just saying it's inevitable that direct
>> email-based contact is going away.  My hope is that something else, 
>> like
>> chat-based contact, may replace it.  I know some sites do use 
>> chat-based
>> interactive support.
>>
>> --- Rex.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: owner-macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
>> [mailto:owner-macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of Marta
>> Edie
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 11:34 AM
>> To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
>> Subject: Re: MacGroup: web mail [.mac gripe]
>>
>>
>> Janice, in fact that is the big trouble with APPLE, period, that you
>> cannot e-mail them anymore. I mean you can, but get no individual 
>> answer
>> , and on those websites they have hundreds of pages of 
>> fiddle-di-fuddle
>> to read pertaining your program, but never actually addressing your
>> individual problem. If I live long enough and get better with my
>> troubled body I shall hunt Steve Jobs up personally and confront him
>> with that problem! I believe all Apple users ought to rise up in a
>> grass roots endeavor to have the personal e-mail feature 
>> re-activated. -
>> I am surprised you are getting Spam. I haven't gotten one piece of 
>> Spam
>> for over a year now. toi, toi, toi!
>> Marta
>> On Apr 14, 2004, at 11:57, Janice Weber wrote:
>>
>>
>> Marta,
>> I don't know how to find individual answers from .mac. I've been 
>> getting
>> SPAM with only .mac addresses and have a couple other questions. They
>> only answer me with a form email like this: Thank you for contacting
>> support at dotmac.apple.com.
>>
>>
>> .Mac does not provide technical support via email. If you are seeking
>> technical assistance with your .Mac account, see the online support
>> options
>> listed below.
>>
>>
>> Full .Mac members can access a wide range of Web-based support 
>> services
>> and
>> features, including online Help, the AppleCare Knowledge Base, and
>> online
>> discussion forums moderated by Apple and exclusively for .Mac members.
>> You
>> can review all of your support options at
>> http://www.mac.com/support/
>>
>>
>> Of course those sites are all major time-takers.
>>
>>
>> It's my one big gripe about .mac. Anyone have any other ways to 
>> contact
>> .mac support??
>> Jan
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 14, 2004, at 10:26 AM, Marta Edie wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi, Janice, i am not talking about the setting in your mailbox on the
>> computer. I know you can manipulate all those under view. I am talking
>> on the mailbox on the server when you to .mac mail in what I call
>> cyberspace. There in the "sent" mode the view panel does not work. It 
>> is
>> a completely different ballgame there. And for some reason it tells me
>> there on "from: in the bar above the sent mail. It is obvius the mail
>> comes from me. It is not so obvious to whom it was sent. And I would
>> like to add this or replace the "from" with the "to"
>> Marta
>> On Apr 14, 2004, at 11:03, Janice Weber wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Marta,
>> Mine was already set that way but I found it could be changed under 
>> the
>> "View" menu. Make sure you are in the mailbox that you want to set
>> because the view menu changes as you change boxes.
>>
>>
>> When you are in "Sent", pull down View, Columns, and check the ones 
>> you
>> want shown.
>>
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 12, 2004, at 09:08 PM, Marta Edie wrote:
>>
>>
>> Could any of you people who have a .

MacGroup: New trick...

[Mike Watkins]

Oops! Don't know why I sent this as was, without my answer.Please  
disregard. I'm under the control of aliens at times, I believe.
Mike
 
 
--
On Friday, March 26, 2004, at 08:48  PM, Mike Watkins wrote:

>
> On Friday, March 26, 2004, at 08:22  PM, Marta Edie PB wrote:
>
>> Subject: Re: MacGroup: New trick...
>> Reply-To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
>>
>> Mike,
>> In the Finder window, check under View, it says : show view options .  
>> Select : show item info,click the button, and it will show the sizes  
>> of your HD, iDisk or files and the sizes of your pictures on the  
>> desktop. Unclick it, and the sizes disappear. It is in the same place  
>> where you can choose the size of the icons on the desktop , and  
>> whether the writing should be below or to the right of the icon.
>> Marta
>>   Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D.s
>> On Mar 26, 2004, at 18:20, Mike Watkins wrote:
>>
>>> Group,
>>>
>>> I don't really know when it happened, and I assume it's a product of  
>>> some update I downloaded... but my iMac Jaguar program has learned a  
>>> new trick. Recently, I notice that next to the icon for my Macintosh  
>>> HD logo on my desktop, it now shows (today's info) "55.89 GB, 43.35  
>>> GB free". That's nice to know... anybody know where it came from? It  
>>> wasn't there before. Did I change something, and if so, what?
>>>
>>> Mike
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MacGroup: New trick...

[Mike Watkins]

On Friday, March 26, 2004, at 08:22  PM, Marta Edie PB wrote:

> Subject: Re: MacGroup: New trick...
> Reply-To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
>
> Mike,
> In the Finder window, check under View, it says : show view options . 
> Select : show item info,click the button, and it will show the sizes 
> of your HD, iDisk or files and the sizes of your pictures on the 
> desktop. Unclick it, and the sizes disappear. It is in the same place 
> where you can choose the size of the icons on the desktop , and 
> whether the writing should be below or to the right of the icon.
> Marta
>Heinzelm?nnchenk?nigin a.D.s
> On Mar 26, 2004, at 18:20, Mike Watkins wrote:
>
>> Group,
>>
>> I don't really know when it happened, and I assume it's a product of 
>> some update I downloaded... but my iMac Jaguar program has learned a 
>> new trick. Recently, I notice that next to the icon for my Macintosh 
>> HD logo on my desktop, it now shows (today's info) "55.89 GB, 43.35 
>> GB free". That's nice to know... anybody know where it came from? It 
>> wasn't there before. Did I change something, and if so, what?
>>
>> Mike
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MacGroup: Appleworks

[Mike Watkins]

Marta,

I'm running Appleworks 6.2.9...don't know if it goes further than that. 
I'm a bit behind you, since I'm still on Jaguar.

And thanks to you and to Schoun for your input on the GB's installed 
and available question. I still wonder what brought it on, but I'm glad 
to have it. Don't think I've changed the Finder view options since I 
had Jerry Y. install Jaguar, and it's started since then. Like Schoun 
says, I'll just "be  happy".

Mike


On Friday, March 26, 2004, at 08:42  PM, Marta Edie PB wrote:

> People, I am using Appleworks. Is there ever an upgrade ? I am running 
> 6.2.7. Is that the end of the line? It seems to have been that way 
> forever.
> Marta
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MacGroup: New trick...

[Mike Watkins]

Group,

I don't really know when it happened, and I assume it's a product of 
some update I downloaded... but my iMac Jaguar program has learned a 
new trick. Recently, I notice that next to the icon for my Macintosh HD 
logo on my desktop, it now shows (today's info) "55.89 GB, 43.35 GB 
free". That's nice to know... anybody know where it came from? It 
wasn't there before. Did I change something, and if so, what?

Mike



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be April 27. The LCS Web page is .
| This list's page is .

MacGroup: Univ. Prefs

[Mike Watkins]

Suzanne,

Hey, for once, I can answer somebody! click on System Preferences in 
your dock... On my Jaguar system, the icon for Universal Preferences is 
a little person in a blue circle (at the lower right side of that 
screen) under the heading of System.

Good to "hear your voice".

Mike


On Sunday, March 7, 2004, at 04:59  PM, Suzanne wrote:

> Hello,
>   I love the enlarging utility, but where do I find the Universal 
> Preferences again?  I'm running Jaguar...
>   Suzanne Blake
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be March 23. The LCS Web page is .
> | This list's page is .
>



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
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| This list's page is .

MacGroup: enlarging type in mail

[Mike Watkins]

Marta,

Your questions, once again, have helped me learn what I didn't know I 
didn't know! Never before have I looked into Universal Preferences. I 
didn't realize I had a "big A" at the top of Safari for enlarging type 
size. Keep on asking the questions I haven't even thought of, Marta.

I loved the line, "I click- therefore I am."

Mike



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be March 23. The LCS Web page is .
| This list's page is .

MacGroup: New development...

[Mike Watkins]

Jerry,

I did find the 'Show item info" and it was unchecked. I went ahead and 
checked it, since I like having the info there. As I said, I wasn't 
complaining, just curious. I've often wondered where to find this info, 
and didn't know. Now I have it... it all seems good to me. I hope it 
stays there.

Thanks, Jerry.

Mike


On Thursday, February 26, 2004, at 12:27  AM, Jerry Yeager wrote:

> Click on the desktop or use some other way to get to the finder. 
> Choose the 'Show View Options'. One of the checkboxes will be for 
> 'Show item info' Turn this off will make it go away (or turning it one 
> will make it appear). It may be a default setting after the update or 
> you may have somehow turned it on and not noticed that you did. I have 
> had this turned on for quite some time, so I did not notice it turning 
> on after the update.
>
>       Jerry
>
> On Feb 25, 2004, at 11:24 PM, Mike Watkins wrote:
>
>> My computer has come up with something new on its own. My Macintosh 
>> HD icon is still in its usual place on my desktop. (I'm running OSX 
>> 10.2.8/Jaguar.) However, it now has added a line of info that says 
>> "55.89 GB, 43.4 GB free" below the icon. It's nice to have that 
>> information; but I'm unsure where it came from. The only thing I've 
>> changed lately was to install the new security upgrade that Jerry 
>> Yeager alerted us to last week. Did it possibly do that?
>>
>> I'm not complaining; just curious. Does anyone know?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>> | be March 23. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
>> | This list's page is <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>.
>>
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be March 23. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
> | This list's page is <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>.
>



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be March 23. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
| This list's page is <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>.

MacGroup: New development...

[Mike Watkins]

My computer has come up with something new on its own. My Macintosh HD 
icon is still in its usual place on my desktop. (I'm running OSX 
10.2.8/Jaguar.) However, it now has added a line of info that says 
"55.89 GB, 43.4 GB free" below the icon. It's nice to have that 
information; but I'm unsure where it came from. The only thing I've 
changed lately was to install the new security upgrade that Jerry 
Yeager alerted us to last week. Did it possibly do that?

I'm not complaining; just curious. Does anyone know?

Mike 



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be March 23. The LCS Web page is .
| This list's page is .

MacGroup: It Isn't So!

[Mike Watkins]

Dear Marta,

Happy Birthday to you!

There are our chronological ages and our true ages... and I guess there 
are enthusiasm ages. You definitely match his guess as far as the 
enthusiasm category.

I hope you never change you're an absolute jewel!

Mike
















On Saturday, February 21, 2004, at 12:25  AM, John Robinson wrote:

>
> Marta, is it true, the rumor that today is your birthday!  Well, it 
> isn't polite to ask a young lady her age, but from your writings I 
> would suggest in your early 30's.
>
> May this be a happy and day of rejoicing.  May you have many more!
>
> John R
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be February 24. The LCS Web page is .
> | This list's page is .
>



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| This list's page is .

MacGroup: unclickable hyperlinks

[Mike Watkins]

George,
I use Jaguar, 10.2.8 on an iMac, and your hyperlink is a different 
color than the rest of your text. On my Mail (the one with the stamp 
and eagle icon) I can click it and it is active. It works fine for me. 
Takes me right to the web page.
Mike


On Saturday, January 31, 2004, at 09:02  PM, Marta Edie wrote:

> George, I am using Mac OSX  10.2.8 on my iMac, and, while not getting 
> a clickable hyperlink, after highlighting it, I can pull it to my 
> desktop and then it clicks and brings , here, The New York Times 
> website. When I pulled on the link ( it has to be highlighted, then my 
> cursor turns into what looks like a small  typed page and on my 
> desktop it sits then as a webloc - has an icon like an @ with the http 
> underneath.
> It  double clicks nicely. Beside the icon it says in this case 
> :www.nytimes.com/2004/01/opinion/31SAT1.html I also use Apple's mail 
> program. The accompanying  article came through in HTML, too.
> Marta
> On Saturday, Jan 31, 2004, at 20:18 America/New_York, George H. Yankey 
> wrote:
>
>> David, your hyperlink is not active on my EMac.  I am using Mac OS 
>> 10.2.8 and  my Email program is Mail.
>> george Yankey
>> On Saturday, January 31, 2004, at 05:35 PM, David Dudine wrote:
>>
>>> From reading the posts here and responses on one Mac users' website, 
>>> and from a fruitful conversation with the technician at my internet 
>>> provider, I have concluded that there is nothing wrong with the 
>>> hyperlinks that I am sending. ?The problem must be with the email 
>>> programs of certain recipients. ?But, I'm not positive.
>>>
>>> I am sending this message in HTML, and copying a formatted article 
>>> and a hyperlink. ?If any of you find that the hyperlink is not 
>>> active or the message and article are in plain text, would you 
>>> please let me know? ?If more than a few replies appear on the 
>>> digest, I will begin to think that I do have a problem ?Thanks.
>>>
>>> Oh, I'm not sure if the formatted article will be sent through the 
>>> list's server, but I know that hyperlinks do come to me as blue, 
>>> underlined and active.
>>>
>>> David Dudine
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/31/opinion/31SAT1.html
>>> TODAY'S EDITORIALS
>>>
>>> How to Hack an Election
>>>
>>>
>>> Published: January 31, 2004
>>>
>>>
>>> Concerned citizens have been warning that new electronic voting 
>>> technology being rolled out nationwide can be used to steal 
>>> elections. Now there is proof. When the State of Maryland hired a 
>>> computer security firm to test its new machines, these paid hackers 
>>> had little trouble casting multiple votes and taking over the 
>>> machines' vote-recording mechanisms. The Maryland study shows 
>>> convincingly that more security is needed for electronic voting, 
>>> starting with voter-verified paper trails.
>>>
>>> When Maryland decided to buy 16,000 AccuVote-TS voting machines, 
>>> there was considerable opposition. Critics charged that the new 
>>> touch-screen machines, which do not create a paper record of votes 
>>> cast, were vulnerable to vote theft. The state commissioned a staged 
>>> attack on the machines, in which computer-security experts would try 
>>> to foil the safeguards and interfere with an election.
>>>
>>> They were disturbingly successful. It was an "easy matter," they 
>>> reported, to reprogram the access cards used by voters and vote 
>>> multiple times. They were able to attach a keyboard to a voting 
>>> terminal and change its vote count. And by exploiting a software 
>>> flaw and using a modem, they were able to change votes from a remote 
>>> location.
>>>
>>> Critics of new voting technology are often accused of being 
>>> alarmist, but this state-sponsored study contains vulnerabilities 
>>> that seem almost too bad to be true. Maryland's 16,000 machines all 
>>> have identical locks on two sensitive mechanisms, which can be 
>>> opened by any one of 32,000 keys. The security team had no trouble 
>>> making duplicates of the keys at local hardware stores, although 
>>> that proved unnecessary since one team member picked the lock in 
>>> "approximately 10 seconds."
>>>
>>> Diebold, the machines' manufacturer, rushed to issue a 
>>> self-congratulatory press release with the headline "Maryland 
>>> Security Study Validates Diebold Election Systems Equipment for 
>>> March Primary." The study's authors were shocked to see their 
>>> findings spun so positively. Their report said that if flaws they 
>>> identified were fixed, the machines could be used in Maryland's 
>>> March 2 primary. But in the long run, they said, an extensive 
>>> overhaul of the machines and at least a limited paper trail are 
>>> necessary.
>>>
>>> The Maryland study confirms concerns about electronic voting that 
>>> are rapidly accumulating from actual elections. In Boone County, 
>>> Ind., last fall, in a particularly colorful example of 
>>> unreliability, an electronic system initially recorded more than 
>>> 1

MacGroup: re: Stuffit and Pith Helmet...

[Mike Watkins]

Bill,

Thanks. I did the PithHelmet install and then went to Safari. Didn't 
notice anything much, which I gather is the point of the whole thing. 
Thanks. Next I'll try to mess with RealOne again.

Mike


On Wednesday, January 28, 2004, at 08:50  AM, Bill Rising wrote:

> On 1/28/04 4:34, Mike Watkins wrote
>
>>
>> To Lee, Bill R., and Jerry,
>>
>> Thanks for the answers at the meeting. I did successfully download
>> Stuffit 8.0.2. Now what I do with it is anybody's guess. I did the
>> install on Internet Explorer, per Lee's advice. I trashed all the old
>> Stuffit stuff.
>>
>> Wasn't as successful with Pith Helmet. I used the web address I 
>> thought
>> I saw on the screen, Bill. It was:
>> <http://culater.net/software/PithHelmet/php>. I got a web page that
>> just said "Oops! Not Ready", or something of the sort. I used Safari
>> for the Pith helmet attempt, which I understood to be appropriate.
>
> Just try searching google for "PithHelmet". It'll take you to the 
> proper
> website.
>
>>
>> I thought I'd succeeded in installing a Real One Player, also.
>>
> [snip...]
>
> I don't know what to say about real player, 'cuz I've never had any
> troubles with it.
>
> When you click on a real-player link to listen to a show, are you at
> least getting a .ram file downloaded somewhere? If so, try clicking on
> the file to see what happens.
>
> Bill
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be February 24. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
> | This list's page is <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>.
>



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be February 24. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
| This list's page is <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>.

MacGroup: re: Stuffit and Pith Helmet...

[Mike Watkins]

To Lee, Bill R., and Jerry,

Thanks for the answers at the meeting. I did successfully download 
Stuffit 8.0.2. Now what I do with it is anybody's guess. I did the 
install on Internet Explorer, per Lee's advice. I trashed all the old 
Stuffit stuff.

Wasn't as successful with Pith Helmet. I used the web address I thought 
I saw on the screen, Bill. It was:
. I got a web page that 
just said "Oops! Not Ready", or something of the sort. I used Safari 
for the Pith helmet attempt, which I understood to be appropriate.

I thought I'd succeeded in installing a Real One Player, also. However, 
I got no result when I tried to get a program to play. Perhaps I just 
don't understand how that whole game plan works. So, all my Real One 
icons, etc. are also trashed and I'm ready to start that fresh. I'd 
love to be able to sit down to my iMac (at any time of day that suits 
me), pick a program from WFPL's "This American Life" or "The Splendid 
Table" and listen to it. iTunes usually pops itself into the mix some 
where during this series of steps... at some time or another a little 
screen with on/off and volume arrows appears. But there's nary a sound 
to be heard, ever. Does anyone have a clue as to how to guide me 
through this procedure? Jerry?

Mike



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| be February 24. The LCS Web page is .
| This list's page is .

MacGroup: Deja Vu...

[Mike Watkins]

Jerry,
I read every sterling word that I received when I got it the first 
time. But, on the second time around, I felt I was reading the typed 
equivalent of an echo. Your efforts are never wasted... you and Lee and 
many others are always appreciated. I'm looking forward to hearing much 
wisdom at this coming Tuesday's meeting!
Mike


On Saturday, January 24, 2004, at 02:51  PM, Jerry Yeager wrote:

> All our efforts wasted 
>
> smile.
>
>
>   Jerry
>
> On Jan 24, 2004, at 12:01 PM, Janice Weber wrote:
>
>> I just know I deleted a whole slew of them re: logoff.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 24, 2004, at 11:33  AM, Mike Watkins wrote:
>>
>>> Today's List Serve E-mails were like deja vu all over again! Last 
>>> night I had erased several exchanges, mostly between Lee and Jerry, 
>>> about the automatic log-off for the teenaged daughter. When Lo and 
>>> Behold, there they were again in today's mail! Very unusual behavior 
>>> for my computer and/or the List Serve. Am I the only one?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>>> | be January 27. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
>>> | This list's page is <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>.
>>
>>
>>
>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
>> | be January 27. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
>> | This list's page is <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>.
>>
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be January 27. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
> | This list's page is <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>.
>



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be January 27. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
| This list's page is <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>.

MacGroup: Deja Vu...

[Mike Watkins]

Today's List Serve E-mails were like deja vu all over again! Last night 
I had erased several exchanges, mostly between Lee and Jerry, about the 
automatic log-off for the teenaged daughter. When Lo and Behold, there 
they were again in today's mail! Very unusual behavior for my computer 
and/or the List Serve. Am I the only one?

Mike



| The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
| be January 27. The LCS Web page is .
| This list's page is .

MacGroup: [MacSupp] Screen Saver Fluid 2

[Mike Watkins]

John,
Thanks.
Mike

On Saturday, January 3, 2004, at 09:33  PM, John Robinson wrote:

> http://lists.presso.net/pipermail/tevac-macsupport/2003-June/ 
> 001116.html
>
> Mike,
>
> Here is a write up concerning Fluid, hope this helps.
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be January 27. The LCS Web page is .
> | This list's page is .
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MacGroup: processor hog screen saver

[Mike Watkins]

John,

I have Marine Aquarium, which I like very much. That's a tank full of 
fish. I'm not familiar with Fluid. How does one see it?

Mike


On Sat.,Jan.1,2004 John Robinson wrote:

Bill,

It is "Fluid", a beautiful screen saver, I just loved it, but oh so 
consumptive of CPU.

John
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