RE: Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

['Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries]

Okay, thank you. I am totally turned off by Facebook and won’t sign up for 
anything FB. Thanks anyway.

 

Eileen

 

 

From: 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 6:01 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

 

I have the metal Rayban glasses and they are of sort of every day usefulness 
including for the blind but not as specific in the kind of information as the 
Celeste classes. There is a good Facebook group called Blind uses of meta 
Rayban glasses which you might want to join even in advance of deciding whether 
to buy the glasses





On 26 Jun 2024, at 03:44, joseph hodge mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I had them then sent them back. For me they were super uncomfortable on my 
nose. Also meta-AI is not nearly as good as GPT! It’s probably in the middle 
between GEMINI and GPT.

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 25, 2024, at 10:41 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:



I’ll take a look at that. I was hoping to get some input from someone who might 
be using them.

 

Thanks.

 

Eileen

 

 

From: 'Patrick Ford' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

 

Hi, if you go to meta.com you could read all about the Ray-Ban Maya Smart 
glasses. They’re also sold at Amazon. There’s a few different styles I believe 
three styles there are $300 with some of the colors and newer styles. go up in 
price to about 379 I believe but the beta site will tell you all the prices. 

Sent from my iPhone






On Jun 25, 2024, at 4:02 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:



Hi All,

 

Sorry if this might be a little off-topic, but I recently heard an ad for 
Ray-Ban Smart Glasses which seemed to indicate the glasses could take a shot 
and read back information/text to the wearer. I am wondering if anyone has 
these glasses and if they are a good or helpful device for a totally blind 
person? Are the Ray-Ban glasses anything like the Orcam. Also are they Apple 
compatible?

 

Any first-hand info about them is appreciated. I’ve looked on line and it lists 
specs, but I’m not finding if they are helpful for a blind person.

 

Eileen

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RE: Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

['Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks for the input. I think these are not what I thought they were and not 
for me.

 

Eileen 

 

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Behalf Of joseph hodge
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 10:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

 

I had them then sent them back. For me they were super uncomfortable on my 
nose. Also meta-AI is not nearly as good as GPT! It’s probably in the middle 
between GEMINI and GPT.

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 25, 2024, at 10:41 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:



I’ll take a look at that. I was hoping to get some input from someone who might 
be using them.

 

Thanks.

 

Eileen

 

 

From: 'Patrick Ford' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

 

Hi, if you go to meta.com you could read all about the Ray-Ban Maya Smart 
glasses. They’re also sold at Amazon. There’s a few different styles I believe 
three styles there are $300 with some of the colors and newer styles. go up in 
price to about 379 I believe but the beta site will tell you all the prices. 

Sent from my iPhone






On Jun 25, 2024, at 4:02 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries 
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wrote:



Hi All,

 

Sorry if this might be a little off-topic, but I recently heard an ad for 
Ray-Ban Smart Glasses which seemed to indicate the glasses could take a shot 
and read back information/text to the wearer. I am wondering if anyone has 
these glasses and if they are a good or helpful device for a totally blind 
person? Are the Ray-Ban glasses anything like the Orcam. Also are they Apple 
compatible?

 

Any first-hand info about them is appreciated. I’ve looked on line and it lists 
specs, but I’m not finding if they are helpful for a blind person.

 

Eileen

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RE: Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

['Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries]

I’ll take a look at that. I was hoping to get some input from someone who might 
be using them.

 

Thanks.

 

Eileen

 

 

From: 'Patrick Ford' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

 

Hi, if you go to meta.com you could read all about the Ray-Ban Maya Smart 
glasses. They’re also sold at Amazon. There’s a few different styles I believe 
three styles there are $300 with some of the colors and newer styles. go up in 
price to about 379 I believe but the beta site will tell you all the prices. 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 25, 2024, at 4:02 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani ' via MacVisionaries 
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wrote:



Hi All,

 

Sorry if this might be a little off-topic, but I recently heard an ad for 
Ray-Ban Smart Glasses which seemed to indicate the glasses could take a shot 
and read back information/text to the wearer. I am wondering if anyone has 
these glasses and if they are a good or helpful device for a totally blind 
person? Are the Ray-Ban glasses anything like the Orcam. Also are they Apple 
compatible?

 

Any first-hand info about them is appreciated. I’ve looked on line and it lists 
specs, but I’m not finding if they are helpful for a blind person.

 

Eileen

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Anyone Know About Ray-Ban Smart Glasses?

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Hi All,

 

Sorry if this might be a little off-topic, but I recently heard an ad for
Ray-Ban Smart Glasses which seemed to indicate the glasses could take a shot
and read back information/text to the wearer. I am wondering if anyone has
these glasses and if they are a good or helpful device for a totally blind
person? Are the Ray-Ban glasses anything like the Orcam. Also are they Apple
compatible?

 

Any first-hand info about them is appreciated. I've looked on line and it
lists specs, but I'm not finding if they are helpful for a blind person.

 

Eileen

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Re: Braille Display Commands on Mac

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Hi Matthew,

Check in the VoiceOver Utility (VO+F8). Select Braille in the categories table, 
then select the tab for Displays. Use the Tab key to move through the settings 
and you will find commands there. I’m not sure how to use or set commands for a 
display.

HTH.

Eileen

From: 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 1:59 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Braille Display Commands on Mac

Hi everyone. I am working with a student who is using a Brailliant 32. I have 
used this display in the past, but it was a few years ago. None of the commands 
for VoiceOver work for the display and I think they need to go into the 
commands table to fix it. As I don't have a display anymore, where is this 
option and are they able to add/modify commands for quitting/opening 
applications? 
Thanks.




  God bless.
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Re: apps library again

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Just in case it was one of those things you got into by accident, it happens 
when you flick your way down on the page numbers that are given just above your 
doc. When you flick one last time, past the last/highest number of pages, bingo 
you put yourself into the App library.

Eileen

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Subject: Re: apps library again

Thank you Eileen. Yes this did occur - I wasn’t sure how it reversed itself but 
with your explanation I understand. 
Thanks so much.
Patrick 

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  Patrick,

  It isn’t there to stay. Once you are in the App library, go to the app 
switcher and close out all open apps. That should bring you back to the screen 
where the App library is, then on your phone do what ever command or gesture 
brings you back to the Home Screen. You should then see the standard layout of 
the home screen.

  HTH.

  Eileen

  From: Patrick Ford 
  Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 1:50 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: apps library again

  Hi, ok I now know the apps library is here to stay. So can I change the way 
the apps are listed  i.e., grid view to list? thanks ….Patrick 

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Re: apps library again

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Patrick,

It isn’t there to stay. Once you are in the App library, go to the app switcher 
and close out all open apps. That should bring you back to the screen where the 
App library is, then on your phone do what ever command or gesture brings you 
back to the Home Screen. You should then see the standard layout of the home 
screen.

HTH.

Eileen

From: Patrick Ford 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 1:50 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: apps library again

Hi, ok I now know the apps library is here to stay. So can I change the way the 
apps are listed  i.e., grid view to list? thanks ….Patrick 

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Re: Recovering data from iPads

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Michael,

I am not sure what your solution might be, but you have one thing on your side 
which is you at least know the Apple Id. If you try doing a reset on either the 
password or passcode the device might send a text message to confirm the 
change. The question is where will it send that code – if its one of the locked 
devices then you’re still in the same problem. Have you tried calling Apple 
accessibility to see what they might suggest.

Apple was helpful to me when my husband passed, but then I knew the codes to 
his Apple stuff.

Eileen

From: Michael Busboom 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:03 AM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Recovering data from iPads

Hello everyone,

Recently a very close friend of mine died, and I inherited two iPads that he 
and his wife owned.  One of the iPads is three years old, and the other is five 
or six years old.  On one of the iPads, there are apparently a lot of pictures 
that family members would like to have, provided I can gain access to them and 
send them.

Here are my problems and questions:

Although I have the Apple user IDs for the iPads, I do not have the passwords 
or unlock codes.  Since I didn’t know that I would one day be getting the 
iPads, I never asked for them, prior to my friend’s death  Is there any way for 
me to recover their pictures?

If there is no way to gain access to the content of these iPads, how do I do a 
complete reset and start setting them up for my own personal use, using my 
current Apple ID?  I have never done a complete restore to an iPad, but I do 
back up my iPhone to the Cloud regularly.  If someone can refer me to a podcast 
that addresses these issues, that’d be great.

With gratitude for any thoughts and best wishes for 2021,

Mike 

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Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Herbie,

As John describes in that message below, prior to the Big Sur update that is 
exactly how it worked for me – just and easy swipe or VO-left/right and press 
the accept button. Now, with the update to Big Sur there is no simple way to 
just navigate to the accept button when the call comes in.

Eileen
From: Herbie Allen 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 1:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

Ever since updating to Big Sur, my VO focus has  never been in focus for 
FaceTime calls. 



  On Dec 28, 2020, at 12:01, John Panarese  wrote:

If the focus is on the window, you should be able to VO-arrow to the, 
accept, button and then VO-space. If you have to use the notification center to 
answer, then use the approach I mentioned before. Usually, for me, the 
VoiceOver focus is right in the FaceTime call window and I just have to 
navigate to the, accept, button. 


  Take Care

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On Dec 28, 2020, at 11:40 AM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

John,

Thanks, but just to make sure I understand, should I do these steps after 
doing a VO+O to get into the notification area, or as soon as the call comes 
through do it right where the VO focus is at?

Eileen

From: John Panarese 
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 8:07 PM
To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

  VO-command-space on the notifications and VO-down arrow down the options. 
You can then VO-spacebar. 



Take Care

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  On Dec 27, 2020, at 7:35 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


  Hello All,

  Since I updated to Big Sur on my 2014 Mac Book Pro, I have not been able 
to answer incoming Face Time calls on the computer. I know that VO+O takes me 
to the notification center, but I am unsure what to do to try and find the 
answer/accept button on incoming calls. I am able to place out-going with Face 
Time, however.

  Does any one else have this problem and know the solution? And, second, 
is it a bug or just my problem with not knowing what to do?

  I called Apple Accessibility to ask for some assistance and I was told 
that I really should not update as soon as the OS updates come out, but rather 
wait a year or even two. It used to be so simple to either swipe on the track 
pad or VO+ Left/right-arrow to the needed button.

  Seems to me it has something to do with accessing the notifications since 
I could not even get a screen sharing session going with their tech support. 

  Thanks for any pointers in the proper direction.

  Eileen

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Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Okay, I won’t be using it until after the New year so will try it all out then. 
Thanks again.

Eileen

From: John Panarese 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 1:14 PM
To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

   It’s hit or miss. I’m not sure if it’s based on what you are doing at the 
moment, but sometimes, the focus is in the window for me, sometimes it’s not. I 
haven’t paid enough attention yet to figure out that mystery yet. 


Take Care

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  On Dec 28, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

  Ever since updating to Big Sur, my VO focus has  never been in focus for 
FaceTime calls. 



On Dec 28, 2020, at 12:01, John Panarese  wrote:

  If the focus is on the window, you should be able to VO-arrow to the, 
accept, button and then VO-space. If you have to use the notification center to 
answer, then use the approach I mentioned before. Usually, for me, the 
VoiceOver focus is right in the FaceTime call window and I just have to 
navigate to the, accept, button. 


Take Care

John D. Panarese
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Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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  On Dec 28, 2020, at 11:40 AM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  John,

  Thanks, but just to make sure I understand, should I do these steps after 
doing a VO+O to get into the notification area, or as soon as the call comes 
through do it right where the VO focus is at?

  Eileen

  From: John Panarese 
  Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 8:07 PM
  To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
  Subject: Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

VO-command-space on the notifications and VO-down arrow down the 
options. You can then VO-spacebar. 



  Take Care

  John D. Panarese
  Director
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On Dec 27, 2020, at 7:35 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


Hello All,

Since I updated to Big Sur on my 2014 Mac Book Pro, I have not been 
able to answer incoming Face Time calls on the computer. I know that VO+O takes 
me to the notification center, but I am unsure what to do to try and find the 
answer/accept button on incoming calls. I am able to place out-going with Face 
Time, however.

Does any one else have this problem and know the solution? And, second, 
is it a bug or just my problem with not knowing what to do?

I called Apple Accessibility to ask for some assistance and I was told 
that I really should not update as soon as the OS updates come out, but rather 
wait a year or even two. It used to be so simple to either swipe on the track 
pad or VO+ Left/right-arrow to the needed button.

Seems to me it has something to do with accessing the notifications 
since I could not even get a screen sharing session going with their tech 
support. 

Thanks for any pointers in the proper direction.

Eileen

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Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks, but I use Face Time for a weekly music lesson that now has to be done 
virtually so I can’t use headphones. I will keep this in mind as a possibility 
once I dig up a pair of headphones that have such a buttone on them for other 
calls.

Eileen

From: Anders Holmberg 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 3:40 PM
To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

Hi! 
If you have headphones connected to your Mac you can just press the answer 
button on your headphones.
/A



  28 dec. 2020 kl. 19:14 skrev John Panarese :

 It’s hit or miss. I’m not sure if it’s based on what you are doing at the 
moment, but sometimes, the focus is in the window for me, sometimes it’s not. I 
haven’t paid enough attention yet to figure out that mystery yet. 


  Take Care

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  Director
  Mac for the Blind
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  Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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On Dec 28, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

Ever since updating to Big Sur, my VO focus has  never been in focus for 
FaceTime calls. 



  On Dec 28, 2020, at 12:01, John Panarese  wrote:

If the focus is on the window, you should be able to VO-arrow to the, 
accept, button and then VO-space. If you have to use the notification center to 
answer, then use the approach I mentioned before. Usually, for me, the 
VoiceOver focus is right in the FaceTime call window and I just have to 
navigate to the, accept, button. 


  Take Care

  John D. Panarese
  Director
  Mac for the Blind
  Tel, (631) 724-4479
  Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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On Dec 28, 2020, at 11:40 AM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

John,

Thanks, but just to make sure I understand, should I do these steps 
after doing a VO+O to get into the notification area, or as soon as the call 
comes through do it right where the VO focus is at?

Eileen

From: John Panarese 
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 8:07 PM
To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

  VO-command-space on the notifications and VO-down arrow down the 
options. You can then VO-spacebar. 



Take Care

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Director
Mac for the Blind
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  On Dec 27, 2020, at 7:35 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


  Hello All,

  Since I updated to Big Sur on my 2014 Mac Book Pro, I have not been 
able to answer incoming Face Time calls on the computer. I know that VO+O takes 
me to the notification center, but I am unsure what to do to try and find the 
answer/accept button on incoming calls. I am able to place out-going with Face 
Time, however.

  Does any one else have this problem and know the solution? And, 
second, is it a bug or just my problem with not knowing what to do?

  I called Apple Accessibility to ask for some assistance and I was 
told that I really should not update as soon as the OS updates come out, but 
rather wait a year or even two. It used to be so simple to either swipe on the 
track pad or VO+ Left/right-arrow to the needed button.

  Seems to me it has something to do with accessing the notifications 
since I could not even get a screen sharing session going with their tech 
support. 

  Thanks for any pointers in the proper direction.

  Eileen

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Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

John,

Thanks, but just to make sure I understand, should I do these steps after doing 
a VO+O to get into the notification area, or as soon as the call comes through 
do it right where the VO focus is at?

Eileen

From: John Panarese 
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 8:07 PM
To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

  VO-command-space on the notifications and VO-down arrow down the options. You 
can then VO-spacebar. 



Take Care

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  On Dec 27, 2020, at 7:35 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


  Hello All,

  Since I updated to Big Sur on my 2014 Mac Book Pro, I have not been able to 
answer incoming Face Time calls on the computer. I know that VO+O takes me to 
the notification center, but I am unsure what to do to try and find the 
answer/accept button on incoming calls. I am able to place out-going with Face 
Time, however.

  Does any one else have this problem and know the solution? And, second, is it 
a bug or just my problem with not knowing what to do?

  I called Apple Accessibility to ask for some assistance and I was told that I 
really should not update as soon as the OS updates come out, but rather wait a 
year or even two. It used to be so simple to either swipe on the track pad or 
VO+ Left/right-arrow to the needed button.

  Seems to me it has something to do with accessing the notifications since I 
could not even get a screen sharing session going with their tech support. 

  Thanks for any pointers in the proper direction.

  Eileen

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A Problem Answering Incoming Face Time Calls?

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Hello All,

Since I updated to Big Sur on my 2014 Mac Book Pro, I have not been able to 
answer incoming Face Time calls on the computer. I know that VO+O takes me to 
the notification center, but I am unsure what to do to try and find the 
answer/accept button on incoming calls. I am able to place out-going with Face 
Time, however.

Does any one else have this problem and know the solution? And, second, is it a 
bug or just my problem with not knowing what to do?

I called Apple Accessibility to ask for some assistance and I was told that I 
really should not update as soon as the OS updates come out, but rather wait a 
year or even two. It used to be so simple to either swipe on the track pad or 
VO+ Left/right-arrow to the needed button.

Seems to me it has something to do with accessing the notifications since I 
could not even get a screen sharing session going with their tech support. 

Thanks for any pointers in the proper direction.

Eileen

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Re: OT advice on trading in old units in apple store

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Ian,

About 3 years back, when Apple stores were open to go into, I traded in 2 
Iphones and an Ipad. The only thing I was able to do in the store was let them 
wipe all the data and personal information off of my devices. The trade-ins had 
to be done by mailing them in. And if I am recalling correctly, there was also 
an on-line form that had to be completed before they sent the mailing cartons 
and related paperwork that had to get packaged with each specific device.

Depending on the condition of the device(s) they will then mail you some dollar 
amount back in the form of Apple gift cards. 
In my case I wanted to upgrade my phone, but because the phones I was trading 
in had to get wiped clean and shipped to them, I could not apply the gift cards 
towards my new purchase since I did not want to be without my cell-phone 
service during the interim. I wound up putting the gift cards towards Apple 
TV’s. So they keep you coming back to them no matter what.

Eileen


From: Ian Harrison 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 7:40 AM
To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries ; 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone ; 
applesuppor...@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: OT advice on trading in old units in apple store

Hi all,

I am thinking of trading in my old iphone and Macbook with Apple in order to 
buy new ones. One thing I can’t find out is how it works while we can’t go to 
the stores. Could it all be done remotely? If I buy the new items, how long do 
I get to return the trade in items and do they send all the necessary 
packaging? How do they ensure the condition is right for the value they offer?

I have tried to find this out but frustrated in my wanderings around the store 
terms and conditions.

With thanks
Ian

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Re: How Do I Pair AirPods with My MacBook?

['Eileen scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

David,

Thanks, but I did try turning bluetooth on in preferences & I may or may not 
have tried pressing the pairing button on the pod’s case. I’ll try it another 
time. It just seemed so difficult in comparison to pairing with my IPhone X. In 
the case of the phone, the pairing happened automatically as soon as I  
unlocked my phone. 

I was wondering if issues with pairing them to the Mac Book had any thing to do 
with interference from the phone being on my person (but locked) while trying 
to pair the pods to the Mac Book.

Thanks.

Eileen

> On Nov 22, 2019, at 9:34 AM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
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How Do I Pair AirPods with My MacBook?

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Hi,

I’m trying to pair a new pair of AirPods with my 2014 Mac Book Pro. I can’t 
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Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2

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I’m using an IPhone 10. Ever since the upgrade to V. 13.x after I hang up from 
a phone call the phone goes silent on me. The only way to get it working again 
is to turn VoiceOver off then on again. Its quite annoying and I hope they get 
a fix for it soon.

Eileen

From: Petrus Tuerlings 
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2

Did you get a reply from Apple regarding the sound loss problem? Must admit, I 
still haven’t experienced this bug and I have an 8+. 



  On 12/10/2019, at 19:07, João de Sousa e Silva  wrote:

  Hi,

  “got sound back by plugging in head set.” I tried so and didn’t work with me. 
I am suspicious  that is more than one bug with a similar result. 


   
  Yesterday, after arriving home, I realised that my iPhone 8 was without any 
sound again. This time the phone got there without any call. So, 3 times with 
iPhone 8, that I don’t use that much, and 0 with my iPhone 7 that I am using 
all the time.


   
  Today I have a scheduled call with Apple due to other problem. I’ll ask about 
this one as we’ll.


   
  This is getting insane. Prices rising and software quality decreasing.


  Às 15:49 de 11/10/2019, Loy Green escreveu:

In case you did not see another post that said they had sound loss and got 
sound back by plugging in head set.
  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 10:12 AM
  Subject: Re: sound loss in iOS 131.2

  Hi, 

  Upon more testing, I did lose VO speech another time yesterday.  I was 
using my Headphones while making a call, and used the button on the headphones 
to end the call.  This caused me to lose VO speech and sounds totally.  Haptics 
were still working, but no sound at all.  I did make another call with my 
headphones on, but did a two-finger double-tap to end the call this time.  I 
did not lose sound in this case.  This leads me to believe, at least so far, 
that it has something to do with how VO is routing sound.  I've not experienced 
the problem at all when I just use my iPhone normally without headphones, but 
twice now with headphones on.  It seems t, somehow the iPhone gets confused 
with where the sound is to be routed, and thus shuts the entire sound off.  I 
might need to do some more testing to confirm all these findings, but might be 
getting somewhere.

  Just an FYI.

  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
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  (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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  On Oct 7, 2019, at 07:37, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Hi, 

  these sorts of problems are quite difficult to nail down due to the 
inconsistency of its presentation.  As I've mentioned, I've only experienced 
this problem once with the phone app, and total loss of speech nowhere else.  
Sometimes, speech is lost for a second or so after I press the side button to 
unlock my iPhone, but a swipe left/right brings it back, so, I don't believe 
that requires a restart.  There are a lot of variables that might be causing 
the issues for the people that are experiencing this, such as background apps 
that are running, certain settings that one user has vs another, version of the 
iPhone etc.  Numerous hard resets also can corrupt a system, so, in some cases, 
a restore will mostly fix things.

  Some questions that might help are:

  • Does it lose speech at the Lock screen or elsewhere?
  • Does it lose speech when you're in a specific app?
  • Is your iPhone in a specific app when you unlock it, or is it on the 
Home screen?
  • do you have Background App Refresh enabled?
  • do you have an external device connected such as a Braille device or 
external bluetooth speaker?

  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
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  (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
  Jamf Certified Associate
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada

  On Oct 7, 2019, at 05:40, Loy Green  wrote:

  What do you mean?
- Original Message -
From: João de Sousa e Silva
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2

try to call to it. Worked with me.


Às 12:31 de 07/10/2019, Loy Green escreveu:

  I went through these power cycles and still my phone went silent 
later in the day.
- Original Message -
From: Jürgen Fleger
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2

  Wow, thanks for this. What an annoying issue!

Yesterday it happened to my iPhone 11 Pro. As I tried to switch it 
off and on again somehow the emergency call became activated and all my 
emergency contacts got

Re: Searching The App Store?

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Okay, my fault. I found the search edit field. There is some really long 
wording at the start of it that made me skip right over it. Jeesh, you think 
Apple would lable it with something meaningful like Edit search text instead of 
the longstring of non-dewscriptive wording they put there.

Eileen

From: 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 6:29 PM
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Subject: Re: Searching The App Store?

Yes, I tap on the search tab, but an edit field does not appear on the screen. 
There is a button to dictate, but that is not getting me the result I know the 
app store has. Where is the edit field located? I’ve swiped all over the screen 
and there does not appear to be an Edit Text field! At least that I’m able to 
locate.

Thanks.

Eileen

From: Vaughn Brown 
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 2:34 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Searching The App Store?

Once you open the app store, put your finger at the buttom of the
screen, there you will find tabs, swipe right and or left until you
find the search tab. There you will find a search editor to input your
searc term.

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>
> Where can I find search in the app store to search for an app I want. I was
> not happy with results Siri brought up when I asked. I am running the most
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Re: Searching The App Store?

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Yes, I tap on the search tab, but an edit field does not appear on the screen. 
There is a button to dictate, but that is not getting me the result I know the 
app store has. Where is the edit field located? I’ve swiped all over the screen 
and there does not appear to be an Edit Text field! At least that I’m able to 
locate.

Thanks.

Eileen

From: Vaughn Brown 
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 2:34 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Searching The App Store?

Once you open the app store, put your finger at the buttom of the
screen, there you will find tabs, swipe right and or left until you
find the search tab. There you will find a search editor to input your
searc term.

On 10/7/19, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries
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> Hi,
>
> Where can I find search in the app store to search for an app I want. I was
> not happy with results Siri brought up when I asked. I am running the most
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Searching The App Store?

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Hi,

Where can I find search in the app store to search for an app I want. I was not 
happy with results Siri brought up when I asked. I am running the most release 
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Thanks.

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Re: Word On The Mac?

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Thank you for mentioning this point. I will look into what the differences are. 
I am still primarily a Windows computer user, but if I am trying to open up my 
documents on the Mac Book it would be helpful to have Word.

Eileen

From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Word On The Mac?

Hi, eileen, 

Office 365 requires a subscription.  There is also a stand-alone version of 
Word for Mac.  It works pretty well.  Depending on what your needs are the 
stand-alone version may be cheaper in the long run.
Cheers,
Donna



  On Jul 3, 2019, at 6:32 PM, 'Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries 
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  Hi,

  If I was going to install Ms Word for Mac on my Mac Book, does that require 
that I need to also run windows & use something like Fision for the Windows 
environment? Is there a version for the Mac?

  Eileen

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Re: Word On The Mac?

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Thanks again. I will look into Office 365.

Eileen

From: Simon Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 8:05 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Word On The Mac?

Microsoft office has worked obn thed mac for years   but only in the office 365 
suite has it become usable with voiceover 

 

As it is on the ios devices such as phone and ipad,.

 

From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Thursday, 4 July 2019 11:46 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Word On The Mac?

 

Yes, Word for Mac via Office 365. Its accessibility has room for improvement, 
but it has actively been worked on by Microsoft.

 

From: Macvisionaries 
Reply-To: Macvisionaries 
Date: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 19:32
To: Macvisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroupscom>
Subject: Word On The Mac?

 

Hi,

 

If I was going to install Ms Word for Mac on my Mac Book, does that require 
that I need to also run windows & use something like Fision for the Windows 
environment? Is there a version for the Mac?

 

Eileen

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Re: Word On The Mac?

['Eileen Scrivani' via MacVisionaries]

Thank you. I’ll look into the office 360.

Eileen

From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 7:46 PM
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Subject: Re: Word On The Mac?

Yes, Word for Mac via Office 365. Its accessibility has room for improvement, 
but it has actively been worked on by Microsoft.

 

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Date: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 19:32
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Subject: Word On The Mac?

 

Hi,

 

If I was going to install Ms Word for Mac on my Mac Book, does that require 
that I need to also run windows & use something like Fision for the Windows 
environment? Is there a version for the Mac?

 

Eileen

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Word On The Mac?

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Hi,

If I was going to install Ms Word for Mac on my Mac Book, does that require 
that I need to also run windows & use something like Fision for the Windows 
environment? Is there a version for the Mac?

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Re: YFi Extendor/Repeators?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Pete,

I got mine from Amazon too. I had plugged mine into the wall outlet and while I 
do see it pop up, I wanted it to boost the strength of the signal on my router. 
I don’t like using it because it is “unsecured”.

I was hoping there was a way to secure it and tie it into my own network that 
others can’t get onto.

Eileen

From: Pete De Vasto 
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Subject: Re: YFi Extendor/Repeators?

I got one off of Amazon almost a year ago, and it’s worked great for me. The 
basic concept is that you connect the extender to your network just like any 
other device. Hopefully, yours can connect via the pushbutton method if your 
router supports it. Then, when you go to your devices to look for a network, 
your extender will show up in the list as a separate network, and the signal 
strength should be strong. Hope this helps. 

Pete De Vasto



  On Jan 25, 2019, at 1:57 PM, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:

  Hi,

  I’ve been losing my YFi signal in the house frequently. So I recently 
purchased a YFi repeator/extendor, but am unsure about what needs to be done to 
connect it correctly with my home router. Does anyone else use one of these and 
if so can you give me an idea as to what I need to do for a correct setup?

  Thanks in advance.

  Eileen

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YFi Extendor/Repeators?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi,

I’ve been losing my YFi signal in the house frequently. So I recently purchased 
a YFi repeator/extendor, but am unsure about what needs to be done to connect 
it correctly with my home router. Does anyone else use one of these and if so 
can you give me an idea as to what I need to do for a correct setup?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Braille screen input

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The scrub gesture is done with 2 fingers. It is like a lightening bolt or the 
letter Z, except the last line is longer than the others.

Eileen

From: Jürgen Fleger 
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 4:57 PM
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Hi,
could you help me to remember which is the scrub gesture?
Thanks Jürgen



Von meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 03.01.2019 um 18:48 schrieb 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Oh yeah! I forgot about that gesture. Thanks!
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 3, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Pablo Sandoval  wrote:
>> 
>> Donna,
>> 
>> I generally use the scrub gesture to exit braille screen input mode.
>> Someone introduced this to me a couple of months ago, and it seems to help 
>> with the clunkiness some.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2019, at 2:43 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> This may be a dumb question, but how do you navigate around it in a 
>>> document when you’re using braille screen input. I have found that Jonathan 
>>> is correct. In putting text works quite well. But I seem to get hung up if 
>>> I need to jump to another place in the document. Going into the road or in 
>>> switching the rotor section and then moving around and then going back into 
>>> braille screen input it is kind of clunky. Any suggestions?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Violin Tuning App

[Eileen Scrivani]

I use an app that I launch by saying “launch Talking Tuner”. I would search for 
Talking Tuner in the app store. And, if that doesn’t work when you search the 
app store, try “Hot Paw talking tuner.” Sorry, it was my husband who originally 
purchased the app so I’m a bit uncertain of the exact name for purchasing it. 

It has the exact features you mention. It will state the note name sharp &/or 
flat and will tell how much it is off by in a percentage. It will also tell you 
when you’re dead on the note.

Good luck.

Eileen


From: Todor Fassl 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 9:32 AM
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Subject: Violin Tuning App

Perhaps this is a long shot but I was hoping to get a recommendation on 
a violin tuning app. I have an iPhone and an iBook Pro so either IOS or 
MacOs recommendations will work.

What I am hoping for is an app that uses the microphone to listen to the 
note I am playing and tells me whether it is too high or too low. Tha's 
the big challenge for an amateur like myself.


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Zip Files on The Mac or IPad?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi All,

I forget, on both a Mac & an Ipad, is there the ability to unzip a zipped file? 
Or is there any reason why I would not be able to see a .ZIP  file located on 
an SD card a friend gave me?

Thanks.

Eileen

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Re: Apple TV Amazon app?

[Eileen Scrivani]

John,

Regarding the voice changing I’m not sure what might be causing that. So far as 
the preamble of directions, I think that if you turn off hints that might 
correct the annoying rambling in the Amazon app. There is a roter, at least on 
my Apple TV, and turning on/off hints is one of the items I can dial to and the 
flick up/down to change it from on/off.

HTH.

Eileen

From: John JD Denning 
Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 1:15 PM
To: Mac Visionaries 
Subject: Apple TV Amazon app?

Hello all, I have an Apple TV fourth generation, and the Amazon app. Whenever I 
start the Amazon app the voice changes completely. Totally different voice 
settings, and it Hass to tell me how to use the app. And there is no way to 
shut up that preamble. At least that icy.

Does anybody know, are there settings for the Amazon app speech? And my big 
hands find using a rotor on the 80 bitty remote less than easy. Any tips or 
advice appreciated.

Thanks

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Re: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America

[Eileen Scrivani]

Mary Jo,

Not totally sure, but with banking web sites, when you change your web browser 
its as though you have switched to a new computer. When I first used Chrome to 
log into my banks web site, it recognized that things were not the same and it 
had me go through a security process where I had to enter a code they texted 
me. Perhaps the problem was something similar. Although, it sounds like your 
transactions went through. 

From: Mary Jo Partyka 
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 10:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Trouble with Online Banking from Bank of America

Hi,

The Bank of America changed its site a few months ago.  I first started paying 
bills with Google Chrome and used it for other things.  Now Google Chrome is 
acting weird and not even showing me the links that I need to use to get to 
things.  Last night I made Internet Explorer my default browser and tried to 
pay my bills three different times.  I tried it on another computer today and 
when I got to Make Payments, it took me out of the payments section.  When I 
called the bank,, they said that all of my payments registered and went 
through.  However, I should be able to see whether the payments went through 
myself so that I could copy down the confirmation number.  Should I delete 
Google Chrome as a browser?  I really don’t want to do that but the app nhas 
become unresponsive.  When I talked to the person at the bank today she said my 
payments had gone through on Microsoft Edge.

Any clarificaiton would be appreciated.
Mary Jo Partyka
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Re: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

[Eileen Scrivani]

A week or two ago, I purchased a device from QVC, called “CPR.” As soon as I 
got it I hooked it up to my phone and it is great!! The purpose of it is to 
block out and prevent all of the unsolicited calls and scammers from calling 
you. The unit comes with a list of 5,000 phone numbers that are known to be 
nuisance calls. And if when I answer the phone and find its one that wasn’t on 
the list of 5,000, there is a large button to press and that caller’s number 
gets added to the list of calls you don’t want getting through to be a bother. 

I think it is a fantastic product and well worth the $50 price.

Eileen


From: Eric Oyen 
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 1:18 PM
To: [MacVisionaries] 
Subject: possible scam purporting to be from Apple

Attention all apple product users..

I recently received a couple of calls on my phone purporting  to be from Apple 
Care notifying me of a breach of their cloud services. Finding this a little 
"phishy", I called apple care directly and discussed this situation with a 
customer support rep. He reports that this is a phishing scam as apple will 
not, under all but the most dire of circumstances, call you about such things. 
They will attempt to notify by email only or they will require you reset your 
password credentials via their apple ID website. If you get one of these calls, 
report it to reportph...@apple.com and include any information you can get 
(such as caller ID info, time of call, etc). 

It appears that the spoofers are getting smarter and using a VOIP line and 
caller ID spoofing service to call phones in an attempt to build a list of 
active numbers for  use in other scams (like IRS, your local bank, etc.).

anyway, report these calls as you get them. 

thanks,

Eric Oyen

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Re: What use do you find from your Apple TV?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi Cara, 

Thank you very much. That is in deed a super nice offer. It’s amazing how 
learning a new device or new way of doing something can reduce a person to 
feeling extremely stupid! 

Talk soon.

Eileen

From: Cara Quinn 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:47 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: What use do you find from your Apple TV?

Hi Eileen, 

You should be able to find that setting under the Remotes and Devices option in 
the Settings menu.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

Hope this helps and have a nice evening!

Cheers!

Cara


On Mar 13, 2018, at 1:52 PM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:

Cara,

I don’t think I made change to the setting. Do you know what it is called & 
under what will I find it?

Thanks.

Eileen


From: Cara Quinn 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 2:21 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: What use do you find from your Apple TV?

Hi Eileen, 

Yes, the situation with the cursor flying is one that many sighted people keep 
bringing up again and again in reviews. So trust me, this is not you at all! :) 
This is a shortcoming of the interface.

There is a way to change the sensitivity of the touch pad in Settings though. 
Have you tried that?

Hope this helps.

Cheers!

Cara


On Mar 13, 2018, at 11:17 AM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:

Hi Kara,

I’m new to Apple TV having purchased 2 4K’s back in December. While I can get 
it to do some of the things I’d like, I’m less than thrilled with accessibility 
on them. The touch screen is a pain to deal with. I have learned that  swiping 
to fast or at least what the touch pad interprets as to fast sends the focus 
rapidly skipping over options. I’m not a large person with large hands so it 
has nothing to do with the size of my fingers – the screen is super tiny and I 
think the smallest motion sends it flying.

I also think the device is just not clear enough in annunciating sufficient 
information to assist a blind user in what needs to be done to operate it and 
get the expected results. I’m not using the devices to the extent I wanted to 
and feel a bit, just a bit, defeated in having bought them.

Perhaps those are only my issues being very new to using Apple TV. However, I 
have had problems just getting apps to download install and set-up.
For my taste, Voice Over doesn’t announce enough descriptive information as to 
what fields should be filled in. For instance it wants a password, well which 
one? If it would be clearer in stating if it is looking for my Apple ID 
password, or the password to something else I’ve signed up for and am now down 
loading and trying to install the app.
That would help enormously in filling in edit fields. The typing mechanism is 
for the birds on the Apple TV remote, at least I can use my IPhone for typing.

Eileen

From: Cara Quinn 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 12:23 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: What use do you find from your Apple TV?

Phil, I completely agree with you in regard to accessibility on the Apple TV 
4th Gen.

In terms of day-to-day enjoyment and ease of use, in my opinion, the 
accessibility on the 4th Gen has gone way way way down.

There are three main areas where I find this to be true most.

The first is in the squirreliness of the use of the menu button to enable / 
disable VO in certain circumstances such as when in Music. I.E. I will find 
that on more than one occasion, VO will either not turn on with the usual 
triple press of the menu button, or once VO is on, I will not be able to leave 
the Now Playing screen in Music to go back to the Apple TV Home screen.

I have seen this issue in other Apple apps as well, but it is intermittent. I 
have more than one Siri remote so I have also checked to see that both remotes 
work properly and they do. So this is an issue with the Apple TV 4th Gen with 
VO apparently.

secondly, Rewinding or fast forwarding when watching video content can be 
absolutely excruciatingly tedious depending on which video apps you might be 
using. Hulu in particular can be utterly horrible for this. Yes, I know that 
this is a third party situation, but this reflects how poorly the touch pad on 
the Siri remote behaves both with and without VO. I have had many complaints 
from sighted folks on this as well. -And furthermore, if you go and read 
reviews on the Siri remote on the Apple Store app, almost every single review 
is incredibly negative. -And I personally couldn’t agree more. This is actually 
the worst Apple interface I have ever used by far.

Lastly, (and this is the major one for me) the bluetooth keyboard support has 
suffered utterly when using Voiceover. I.e. apparently, the accessibility team 
has tried to make the experience of using a bluetooth keyboard with VO on the 
Apple TV, behave more like that of using VO on a Mac.

Unfortunately, in this case, this has severely crippled accessibility in this 
reg

Fw: Face id question

[Eileen Scrivani]

Sorry, I don’t know what happened. One second I was reading Crister’s message 
and hit the reply. After I sent the message, I realized it was Donna’s message.

Eileen


From: Eileen Scrivani 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:57 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Face id question

I turned Attention to off because if I have trouble focusing on exactly the 
area on the screen where its looking to scan it makes it easier to unlock if 
Attention is not on.

Eileen

From: Donna Goodin 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 6:24 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Face id question

Hi Krister,

I have that turned off.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:57 PM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> To those who use Face ID, do you use it with the extra Attention mode or do 
> you have that turned off?
> I tried the attention mode and it was almost impossible to open the phone 
> then. I just wondered how you other people do it?
> /Krister
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Re: Face id question

[Eileen Scrivani]

I turned Attention to off because if I have trouble focusing on exactly the 
area on the screen where its looking to scan it makes it easier to unlock if 
Attention is not on.

Eileen

From: Donna Goodin 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 6:24 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Face id question

Hi Krister,

I have that turned off.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:57 PM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> To those who use Face ID, do you use it with the extra Attention mode or do 
> you have that turned off?
> I tried the attention mode and it was almost impossible to open the phone 
> then. I just wondered how you other people do it?
> /Krister
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Re: What use do you find from your Apple TV?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Cara,

I don’t think I made change to the setting. Do you know what it is called & 
under what will I find it?

Thanks.

Eileen


From: Cara Quinn 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 2:21 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: What use do you find from your Apple TV?

Hi Eileen, 

Yes, the situation with the cursor flying is one that many sighted people keep 
bringing up again and again in reviews. So trust me, this is not you at all! :) 
This is a shortcoming of the interface.

There is a way to change the sensitivity of the touch pad in Settings though. 
Have you tried that?

Hope this helps.

Cheers!

Cara


On Mar 13, 2018, at 11:17 AM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:

Hi Kara,

I’m new to Apple TV having purchased 2 4K’s back in December. While I can get 
it to do some of the things I’d like, I’m less than thrilled with accessibility 
on them. The touch screen is a pain to deal with. I have learned that  swiping 
to fast or at least what the touch pad interprets as to fast sends the focus 
rapidly skipping over options. I’m not a large person with large hands so it 
has nothing to do with the size of my fingers – the screen is super tiny and I 
think the smallest motion sends it flying.

I also think the device is just not clear enough in annunciating sufficient 
information to assist a blind user in what needs to be done to operate it and 
get the expected results. I’m not using the devices to the extent I wanted to 
and feel a bit, just a bit, defeated in having bought them.

Perhaps those are only my issues being very new to using Apple TV. However, I 
have had problems just getting apps to download install and set-up.
For my taste, Voice Over doesn’t announce enough descriptive information as to 
what fields should be filled in. For instance it wants a password, well which 
one? If it would be clearer in stating if it is looking for my Apple ID 
password, or the password to something else I’ve signed up for and am now down 
loading and trying to install the app.
That would help enormously in filling in edit fields. The typing mechanism is 
for the birds on the Apple TV remote, at least I can use my IPhone for typing.

Eileen

From: Cara Quinn 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 12:23 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: What use do you find from your Apple TV?

Phil, I completely agree with you in regard to accessibility on the Apple TV 
4th Gen.

In terms of day-to-day enjoyment and ease of use, in my opinion, the 
accessibility on the 4th Gen has gone way way way down.

There are three main areas where I find this to be true most.

The first is in the squirreliness of the use of the menu button to enable / 
disable VO in certain circumstances such as when in Music. I.E. I will find 
that on more than one occasion, VO will either not turn on with the usual 
triple press of the menu button, or once VO is on, I will not be able to leave 
the Now Playing screen in Music to go back to the Apple TV Home screen.

I have seen this issue in other Apple apps as well, but it is intermittent. I 
have more than one Siri remote so I have also checked to see that both remotes 
work properly and they do. So this is an issue with the Apple TV 4th Gen with 
VO apparently.

secondly, Rewinding or fast forwarding when watching video content can be 
absolutely excruciatingly tedious depending on which video apps you might be 
using. Hulu in particular can be utterly horrible for this. Yes, I know that 
this is a third party situation, but this reflects how poorly the touch pad on 
the Siri remote behaves both with and without VO. I have had many complaints 
from sighted folks on this as well. -And furthermore, if you go and read 
reviews on the Siri remote on the Apple Store app, almost every single review 
is incredibly negative. -And I personally couldn’t agree more. This is actually 
the worst Apple interface I have ever used by far.

Lastly, (and this is the major one for me) the bluetooth keyboard support has 
suffered utterly when using Voiceover. I.e. apparently, the accessibility team 
has tried to make the experience of using a bluetooth keyboard with VO on the 
Apple TV, behave more like that of using VO on a Mac.

Unfortunately, in this case, this has severely crippled accessibility in this 
regard. What I mean is this; in the past, when using a bt keyboard with an 
Apple TV, the arrows would move the cursor in their respective four directions 
on the screen. Now, if you turn on VO with a bt keyboard paired, the arrows do 
not work this way. The most obvious issue is that you cannot move straight down 
on the screen, you need to move left to right . This is a huge problem in that 
it is not only more cumbersome to get where you need to go, but there are 
actually some cases where you cannot get there at all using the keyboard. You 
actually need to stop trying to navigate with the keyboard and use the remote 
to move the cursor.

Now, if this were a de

Re: What use do you find from your Apple TV?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Tim,

Thank you. I’ll try using 2 fingers and see what the results/difference is. 
Funny you mention direct touch since every time I use the Amazon Prime app it 
tells me that it “requires” direct touch in order to work. 

Eileen

From: Tim Kilburn 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:37 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: What use do you find from your Apple TV?

Hi, 

A couple of items to bring forward here with respect to the Siri Remote and the 
Bluetooth keyboard operation.  First, for both devices, it is important to 
consider the rotor control.  When the rotor is set to certain items, navigation 
by both the remote and the Bluetooth keyboard is sometimes less than intuitive. 
 What I've found is that it is often advisable to change the rotor to a 
different item such as "Words", "Navigation" or "Explore".  Also, consider that 
Direct Touch can really make things difficult if you're not accustomed to it 
and will make things skip around if you're not careful.  Second, there are a 
few gestures such as swiping up with two fingers to repeat hits that you may 
find useful.  Yes, the touch-screen is rather small, but practice usually makes 
your life easier.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 

On Mar 13, 2018, at 11:17, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:

Hi Kara,

I’m new to Apple TV having purchased 2 4K’s back in December. While I can get 
it to do some of the things I’d like, I’m less than thrilled with accessibility 
on them. The touch screen is a pain to deal with. I have learned that  swiping 
to fast or at least what the touch pad interprets as to fast sends the focus 
rapidly skipping over options. I’m not a large person with large hands so it 
has nothing to do with the size of my fingers – the screen is super tiny and I 
think the smallest motion sends it flying.

I also think the device is just not clear enough in annunciating sufficient 
information to assist a blind user in what needs to be done to operate it and 
get the expected results. I’m not using the devices to the extent I wanted to 
and feel a bit, just a bit, defeated in having bought them.

Perhaps those are only my issues being very new to using Apple TV. However, I 
have had problems just getting apps to download install and set-up.
For my taste, Voice Over doesn’t announce enough descriptive information as to 
what fields should be filled in. For instance it wants a password, well which 
one? If it would be clearer in stating if it is looking for my Apple ID 
password, or the password to something else I’ve signed up for and am now down 
loading and trying to install the app.
That would help enormously in filling in edit fields. The typing mechanism is 
for the birds on the Apple TV remote, at least I can use my IPhone for typing.

Eileen

From: Cara Quinn 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 12:23 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: What use do you find from your Apple TV?

Phil, I completely agree with you in regard to accessibility on the Apple TV 
4th Gen.

In terms of day-to-day enjoyment and ease of use, in my opinion, the 
accessibility on the 4th Gen has gone way way way down.

There are three main areas where I find this to be true most.

The first is in the squirreliness of the use of the menu button to enable / 
disable VO in certain circumstances such as when in Music. I.E. I will find 
that on more than one occasion, VO will either not turn on with the usual 
triple press of the menu button, or once VO is on, I will not be able to leave 
the Now Playing screen in Music to go back to the Apple TV Home screen.

I have seen this issue in other Apple apps as well, but it is intermittent. I 
have more than one Siri remote so I have also checked to see that both remotes 
work properly and they do. So this is an issue with the Apple TV 4th Gen with 
VO apparently.

secondly, Rewinding or fast forwarding when watching video content can be 
absolutely excruciatingly tedious depending on which video apps you might be 
using. Hulu in particular can be utterly horrible for this. Yes, I know that 
this is a third party situation, but this reflects how poorly the touch pad on 
the Siri remote behaves both with and without VO. I have had many complaints 
from sighted folks on this as well. -And furthermore, if you go and read 
reviews on the Siri remote on the Apple Store app, almost every single review 
is incredibly negative. -And I personally couldn’t agree more. This is actually 
the worst Apple interface I have ever used by far.

Lastly, (and this is the major one for me) the bluetooth keyboard support has 
suffered utterly when using Voiceover. I.e. apparently, the accessibility team 
has tried to make the experience of using a bluetooth keyboard with VO on the 
Apple TV, behave more like that of using VO on a Mac.

Unfortunately, in this case, this has severely crippled accessibility in this 
regard. What I mean is this; i

Re: What use do you find from your Apple TV?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi Kara,

I’m new to Apple TV having purchased 2 4K’s back in December. While I can get 
it to do some of the things I’d like, I’m less than thrilled with accessibility 
on them. The touch screen is a pain to deal with. I have learned that  swiping 
to fast or at least what the touch pad interprets as to fast sends the focus 
rapidly skipping over options. I’m not a large person with large hands so it 
has nothing to do with the size of my fingers – the screen is super tiny and I 
think the smallest motion sends it flying.

I also think the device is just not clear enough in annunciating sufficient 
information to assist a blind user in what needs to be done to operate it and 
get the expected results. I’m not using the devices to the extent I wanted to 
and feel a bit, just a bit, defeated in having bought them.

Perhaps those are only my issues being very new to using Apple TV. However, I 
have had problems just getting apps to download install and set-up.
For my taste, Voice Over doesn’t announce enough descriptive information as to 
what fields should be filled in. For instance it wants a password, well which 
one? If it would be clearer in stating if it is looking for my Apple ID 
password, or the password to something else I’ve signed up for and am now down 
loading and trying to install the app.
That would help enormously in filling in edit fields. The typing mechanism is 
for the birds on the Apple TV remote, at least I can use my IPhone for typing.

Eileen

From: Cara Quinn 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 12:23 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: What use do you find from your Apple TV?

Phil, I completely agree with you in regard to accessibility on the Apple TV 
4th Gen.

In terms of day-to-day enjoyment and ease of use, in my opinion, the 
accessibility on the 4th Gen has gone way way way down.

There are three main areas where I find this to be true most.

The first is in the squirreliness of the use of the menu button to enable / 
disable VO in certain circumstances such as when in Music. I.E. I will find 
that on more than one occasion, VO will either not turn on with the usual 
triple press of the menu button, or once VO is on, I will not be able to leave 
the Now Playing screen in Music to go back to the Apple TV Home screen.

I have seen this issue in other Apple apps as well, but it is intermittent. I 
have more than one Siri remote so I have also checked to see that both remotes 
work properly and they do. So this is an issue with the Apple TV 4th Gen with 
VO apparently.

secondly, Rewinding or fast forwarding when watching video content can be 
absolutely excruciatingly tedious depending on which video apps you might be 
using. Hulu in particular can be utterly horrible for this. Yes, I know that 
this is a third party situation, but this reflects how poorly the touch pad on 
the Siri remote behaves both with and without VO. I have had many complaints 
from sighted folks on this as well. -And furthermore, if you go and read 
reviews on the Siri remote on the Apple Store app, almost every single review 
is incredibly negative. -And I personally couldn’t agree more. This is actually 
the worst Apple interface I have ever used by far.

Lastly, (and this is the major one for me) the bluetooth keyboard support has 
suffered utterly when using Voiceover. I.e. apparently, the accessibility team 
has tried to make the experience of using a bluetooth keyboard with VO on the 
Apple TV, behave more like that of using VO on a Mac.

Unfortunately, in this case, this has severely crippled accessibility in this 
regard. What I mean is this; in the past, when using a bt keyboard with an 
Apple TV, the arrows would move the cursor in their respective four directions 
on the screen. Now, if you turn on VO with a bt keyboard paired, the arrows do 
not work this way. The most obvious issue is that you cannot move straight down 
on the screen, you need to move left to right . This is a huge problem in that 
it is not only more cumbersome to get where you need to go, but there are 
actually some cases where you cannot get there at all using the keyboard. You 
actually need to stop trying to navigate with the keyboard and use the remote 
to move the cursor.

Now, if this were a design issue across the board for both sighted and blind 
users, I would simply question Apple’s UX design choice. -However, this is not 
across the board. This is purely an accessibility design issue. If you turn off 
Voiceover, the bluetooth keyboard goes back to working as it always has, with 
the arrow keys working normally.

If you then turn on Voiceover, the keyboard stops working as it should and goes 
back to performing as I have been mentioning above.

So, instead of actually assisting blind users in having an easier and more 
enjoyable experience with the Apple TV, now it is actually made worse and more 
difficult in several situations.

I am curious to hear others’ experiences / opinions on these issues

Re: I have stepped into the future and have a question

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi,

By any chance, did you backup your previous phone before getting rid of it? You 
can do a restore from the backup to the IPhone 10. It sounds like you’ve 
already set the new phone up, but I know that when I did the setup on mine, 
there is a point during setup where if you just hold the old phone next to the 
new phone it copies over all or at least most of your settings. Of course this 
requires that you still have the older phone.

Good luck.

Eileen


From: Krister Ekstrom 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:56 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: I have stepped into the future and have a question

Hi i’ve got an iPhone X that i purchased today. I have just set it up and now i 
wonder, is there a way to get all my old settings back without having to start 
from the beginning again with setting up the iPhone? I want my apps, favorites 
and contacts and so on back.
I know this is a typical ”i should know this” question but i can for the life 
of me not remember how to get things back to the way it was on my iPhone 7 
plus. Can someone please help?
Thanks,
/Krister

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Re: Apple TV Apps?

[Eileen Scrivani]

It all depends on what you’re looking for and interested in. I primarily got 
the Apple TV so I could watch the TV/movie selections I get with Amazon Prime. 
If you are signed up with an Amazon Prime membership, then get the app and get 
the one for your Iphone too. Thus far I like it a lot and am still learning how 
the Apple TV works.

Eileen


From: Phil Halton 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:57 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple TV Apps?

If you’re downloading apps via the App Store app on your Apple TV, then the 
password is asking for is your Apple ID password or whatever I do you use to 
buy things in the App Store. BTW, do you have any good app recommendations? 
I’ve just bought the Apple TV 4th GEN and I’m looking around for good apps.


Sent from my IPhone


On Feb 20, 2018, at 10:20 AM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:


  Hi All,

  I have a question for those of you using an Apple TV. The one thing I have 
found confusing in getting apps on my Apple TV is that when I download an app I 
am prompted for a password. Voice Over does not say what id/password it wants. 

  I am always confused by this since I’m never sure if its looking for my Apple 
sign in information or if it wants my id/password for these various 
services/program providers. Any thoughts on this or if VO can be made to speak 
more information about what exactly it is looking for?

  Even if I use the Apple TV Remote on my phone it does not speak the labels 
other than telling me it wants a userid or a password.

  Thanks in advance.

  Eileen

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Apple TV Apps?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi All,

I have a question for those of you using an Apple TV. The one thing I have 
found confusing in getting apps on my Apple TV is that when I download an app I 
am prompted for a password. Voice Over does not say what id/password it wants. 

I am always confused by this since I’m never sure if its looking for my Apple 
sign in information or if it wants my id/password for these various 
services/program providers. Any thoughts on this or if VO can be made to speak 
more information about what exactly it is looking for?

Even if I use the Apple TV Remote on my phone it does not speak the labels 
other than telling me it wants a userid or a password.

Thanks in advance.

Eileen

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Re: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Donna,

Yes, I have found dictation greatly lacking lately. That is on my IPhone 10. 
Yesterday, I was dictating a message and after completing it (several 
attempts), Siri would not even come back with asking me if I wanted to send it. 
I had to find the send button on the screen and tap it.

In the past I have noticed when my phone starts acting quirky there’s a pending 
update I have needed to install. I checked that yesterday, but the phone is up 
to date.

Eileen


From: Donna Goodin 
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 7:25 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Has anyone noticed Siri getting exponentially worse?

I have noticed that when dictating to Siri on my iPhone X, the recognition is 
absolutely terrible!  I spend much more time correcting dictation than I ever 
used to.  Just wondering if anyone else--either using a X or not--has noticed 
the same thing?
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: the sogga of the bricked iPhone X

[Eileen Scrivani]

Sarai,

You bring up an interesting point on the phone. I have been using Face 
Recognition and it mostly works for me, but there are enough times when I have 
to manually type in my pass code – enough to annoy me. Other than that issue, 
I’m happy with the phone. I know that I have to slide one finger up from the 
center bottom edge of the screen to let it recognize my image, and when it 
doesn’t work correctly I’ve assumed it had to due with not being able to 
recognize my image. I think now I get the fact that I have to get my finger 
right on that home button before starting the slide up.

Once the phone is unlocked I haven’t had issues with only going a fraction up 
the screen to get back to the home screen or pressing the side button (from 
certain screens), kor sliding further up to get it switched over to the app 
switcher.

I’m going to start paying more attention as to where and what my finger is 
landing on and does as I wake and unlock the phone.

Eileen

From: Sarai Bucciarelli 
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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Subject: the sogga of the bricked iPhone X

Well I finally got Dad’s iPhone back to working. Ran the DFU update again with 
the Apple Accessibility folks. We finally got it restored. I have to say, I 
hate this phone! I know your supposed to run one finger up the edge to go home 
but it only works part of the time fore me. Even dad who is sighted misses the 
home button. He says there are too many gestures. 

 

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Re: disabled iPhone X

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi,

I’m not sure if this is the fix you are looking for or need, but to do a reset, 
you’ll hit the three buttons, one immediately after the other, as follows 
volume up, volume down and the side button. It will be 1-2-3 succession.

HTH.

Eileen

From: Sarai Bucciarelli 
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 8:57 PM
To: viph...@googlegroups.com 
Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: disabled iPhone X

Hello:

I could use some help.! My dad disabled his iPhone X by not typing in the 
password right. We cannot get voiceover on. We tried using iTunes recovery mode 
and got an error. I have access to my own mac, a windows machine, and dad’s 
icloud account info. How can I get the phone back to factory defaults so we can 
start over?

 

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Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi Christopher, 

Are you in the UK? I don’t know if that makes a difference or not. For the time 
being at least, I don’t intend to get rid of my Fios TV option. So, are you 
saying that if say, Fios offers programs that are described for blind viewers, 
then Apple TV over-rides that and the descriptions are not available? That 
would be a game changer for me.

Eileen


From: christopher hallsworth 
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 3:03 PM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

Hello, personally I do not recommend Apple TV. while it has some good parts, 
like out of the box accessibility, there are some bad parts too. In my 
experience of using Apple TV, both third and fourth generation, whilst there 
were lots of content available, the majority of them were not audio described, 
apart from what's available on Netflix and uk based BBC iPlayer. I also thought 
the paid subscription services from both uk based TV Player and Now TV were 
also a waste of money. As a result, I have now gone back to free to air 
television where most, but not all, programs feature audio description, and 
there is no cost other than an annual TV license which is required to watch and 
record live television as well as using BBC iPlayer, including downloading and 
streaming on demand content.

> On 16 Dec 2017, at 19:29, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> I will be getting Apple gift cards from turning in a few devices I no longer 
> use. I’m considering getting 2 Apple TV’s with the gift cards. I want to be 
> sure I’m doing the right thing before purchasing them and encountering 
> problems.
>  
> First, I have relatively new television sets, Samsung 32” inch, but I really 
> am not sure if it is a “Smart” TV. I know the TV’s have HDMI ports which are 
> needed for Apple TV. If they are not Smart TV’s will it make a difference 
> with using Apple TV? I don’t want to get the Apple TV only to find out that 
> I’ll have to upgrade TV’s that are only 3-4 years old and in totally good 
> condition.
>  
> Second, the tech people at Apple tell me the Apple TV will work with Amazon 
> Prime which is the only alternate type of service I have in addition to my 
> cable provider. Does anyone know if this is correct?
>  
> Finally when I was in the Apple store I saw the Apple TV, I think it was the 
> IV, and I’m wondering what anyone else’s experience has been with 
> accessibility for a totally blind person in both using it as well as getting 
> it set up? And, also I know they come with either 32 or 64 memory and I’m 
> wondering how to determine the better choice for myself. I probably won’t use 
> it for looking at pictures, but am not sure of the reasons why I’d need 
> greater memory. I’m wondering what other types of things the device can do 
> other than the various TV watching apps. Any input is greatly appreciated.
>  
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Eileen
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Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hello All,

Sorry, just one more thing I forgot to ask in my original post. Currently with 
my cable set up, I have text to speech turned on so I can do a few things using 
the Fios remote. However, it drives me crazy that I cannot use on Demand with 
the Fios remote. Will having an Apple TV make navigating an option like this 
and the menuse offered through Fios any easier?

Thanks again.

Eileen 


From: Jeff Berwick 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 2:47 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

1.  All the Apple TV needs is an HDMI port—the TV doesn’t have to be smart. 
2.  I don’t use Amazon Prime, but I suspect it is an app and, therefore, as 
long as Amazon has programmed in accessibility, it will be fine.
3.  The Apple TV is fully accessible as it has Voiceover builtin.

I have a couple of Apple TV IV units and haven’t had any trouble doing the 
administration of them myself.

Jeff



  On Dec 16, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:

  Hi All, 

  I will be getting Apple gift cards from turning in a few devices I no longer 
use. I’m considering getting 2 Apple TV’s with the gift cards. I want to be 
sure I’m doing the right thing before purchasing them and encountering problems.

  First, I have relatively new television sets, Samsung 32” inch, but I really 
am not sure if it is a “Smart” TV. I know the TV’s have HDMI ports which are 
needed for Apple TV. If they are not Smart TV’s will it make a difference with 
using Apple TV? I don’t want to get the Apple TV only to find out that I’ll 
have to upgrade TV’s that are only 3-4 years old and in totally good condition.

  Second, the tech people at Apple tell me the Apple TV will work with Amazon 
Prime which is the only alternate type of service I have in addition to my 
cable provider. Does anyone know if this is correct?

  Finally when I was in the Apple store I saw the Apple TV, I think it was the 
IV, and I’m wondering what anyone else’s experience has been with accessibility 
for a totally blind person in both using it as well as getting it set up? And, 
also I know they come with either 32 or 64 memory and I’m wondering how to 
determine the better choice for myself. I probably won’t use it for looking at 
pictures, but am not sure of the reasons why I’d need greater memory. I’m 
wondering what other types of things the device can do other than the various 
TV watching apps. Any input is greatly appreciated.

  Thanks so much.

  Eileen

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Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Jeff, 

Thanks. While I was able to feel the unit in the store they did not have it 
hooked up for any service. Would you mind letting me know which button on the 
remote gets pressed (I’m assuming the triple press) to turn VO on? The girl 
while knowledgeable about the phone was not able to tell me much about the 
Apple TV & VO or how to get VO up and running without the unit actually 
operating.

Thanks. Looks like I’ll be getting them!

Eileen


From: Jeff Berwick 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 2:47 PM
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Subject: Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

1.  All the Apple TV needs is an HDMI port—the TV doesn’t have to be smart. 
2.  I don’t use Amazon Prime, but I suspect it is an app and, therefore, as 
long as Amazon has programmed in accessibility, it will be fine.
3.  The Apple TV is fully accessible as it has Voiceover builtin.

I have a couple of Apple TV IV units and haven’t had any trouble doing the 
administration of them myself.

Jeff



  On Dec 16, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:

  Hi All, 

  I will be getting Apple gift cards from turning in a few devices I no longer 
use. I’m considering getting 2 Apple TV’s with the gift cards. I want to be 
sure I’m doing the right thing before purchasing them and encountering problems.

  First, I have relatively new television sets, Samsung 32” inch, but I really 
am not sure if it is a “Smart” TV. I know the TV’s have HDMI ports which are 
needed for Apple TV. If they are not Smart TV’s will it make a difference with 
using Apple TV? I don’t want to get the Apple TV only to find out that I’ll 
have to upgrade TV’s that are only 3-4 years old and in totally good condition.

  Second, the tech people at Apple tell me the Apple TV will work with Amazon 
Prime which is the only alternate type of service I have in addition to my 
cable provider. Does anyone know if this is correct?

  Finally when I was in the Apple store I saw the Apple TV, I think it was the 
IV, and I’m wondering what anyone else’s experience has been with accessibility 
for a totally blind person in both using it as well as getting it set up? And, 
also I know they come with either 32 or 64 memory and I’m wondering how to 
determine the better choice for myself. I probably won’t use it for looking at 
pictures, but am not sure of the reasons why I’d need greater memory. I’m 
wondering what other types of things the device can do other than the various 
TV watching apps. Any input is greatly appreciated.

  Thanks so much.

  Eileen

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Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi All, 

I will be getting Apple gift cards from turning in a few devices I no longer 
use. I’m considering getting 2 Apple TV’s with the gift cards. I want to be 
sure I’m doing the right thing before purchasing them and encountering problems.

First, I have relatively new television sets, Samsung 32” inch, but I really am 
not sure if it is a “Smart” TV. I know the TV’s have HDMI ports which are 
needed for Apple TV. If they are not Smart TV’s will it make a difference with 
using Apple TV? I don’t want to get the Apple TV only to find out that I’ll 
have to upgrade TV’s that are only 3-4 years old and in totally good condition.

Second, the tech people at Apple tell me the Apple TV will work with Amazon 
Prime which is the only alternate type of service I have in addition to my 
cable provider. Does anyone know if this is correct?

Finally when I was in the Apple store I saw the Apple TV, I think it was the 
IV, and I’m wondering what anyone else’s experience has been with accessibility 
for a totally blind person in both using it as well as getting it set up? And, 
also I know they come with either 32 or 64 memory and I’m wondering how to 
determine the better choice for myself. I probably won’t use it for looking at 
pictures, but am not sure of the reasons why I’d need greater memory. I’m 
wondering what other types of things the device can do other than the various 
TV watching apps. Any input is greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much.

Eileen

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Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

[Eileen Scrivani]

Yes, I’m totally blind. Voice Over turned on immediately as soon as I did the 
rapid triple press on the side button. And then the Apple technician’s 
assistance since I called their Accessibility line, was able to see the screen 
on the 10 because I did screen sharing on the IPhone 6.


technically, I should have been able to place the older 6 next to the new 10 to 
just transfer my information/settings, but when I got to that screen I was only 
able to tap the setup manually button. The button for automatic setup did not 
show. This might have made the process faster, but at least its done and it 
went through pretty smoothly.

Eileen
Eileen

From: Robin 
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 12:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

Wow! Independent Setup of Apple's iPhoneX 
By TotallyBlind with ONLY PhoneAssistance
Right???
or
Are you LowVision?

Congratulations!! On YourPurchase of Apple's iPhoneX
Enjoy YourSelf & Your iPhoneX
At 06:23 PM 12/3/2017, you wrote:

  Hi All, 
   
  I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided to do the set up today since 
I had a block of time to work on it. I did call Apple Accessibility to ask for 
assistance since I wanted to be sure everything went smoothly. The tech person 
did a screen sharing session with me on my IPhone 6 since the new phone 
wasn’t set up screen sharing could not be done on the X directly. We did the 
screen sharing and he had me launch the camera so in turn I held the 6 above 
the 10 and he was able to view the screen on the new 10. 
   
  For the most part, it worked out very well. The thing I found most 
frustrating is that the X would lock in a very short time and it kept requiring 
reentry of my pass code numerous times. I found this added unnecessarily to the 
time it took to set up the phone. When the phone was finally up and running and 
I checked out settings, I found it was set to lock after only 30 seconds.
   
  During setup I also skipped the facial recognition. I need to go to an Apple 
store later in the week since I’ll need a new outerbox and screen protector 
so I think I’ll ask for assistance then in setting up the facial recognition. 
So far the phone seems lovely and its a matter of getting use to new ways of 
unlocking, going to the home screen and the app switcher which don’t seem 
difficult at all. I am finding right now the phone is very fast and very 
responsive. I’m sure I’ll find other things where I’ll need to alter how 
I do things but as of now I am very happy with what I’m experiencing with 
this phone.
   
  Eileen

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Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi Donna,

Thanks for the pointers. I will give it a try later today after I get a few 
things taken care of around the house. When I did the set up yesterday, and the 
screen for face recognition came up I did try holding my arm out at around face 
level, but it didn’t seem to see my face. So for sanity’s sake I skipped over 
that part.

I remember one message from another person on this list, can’t remember who it 
was, but they did say they held the phone at some crazy angle. Hopefully I’ll 
get it working soon.

Eileen


From: Donna Goodin 
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:35 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

Hi Eileen, 

Glad your setup went well.

Setting up Face recognition isn't that hard.  The first time you do it, it may 
feel impossible, but if you pay close attention to what your phone is telling 
you, you can probably do it yourself with little trouble.  someone else posted 
on the list to remember to make small movements with your head.  That turned 
out to be very helpful.  I started with a small movement, and if that wasn't 
sufficient, the phone would say something like "Turn your head up."  I would 
then know that I needed to move it further in the direction the phone was 
indicating.

Just thought I'd mention this in case you want to give it a try.
Cheers,
Donna

  On Dec 3, 2017, at 8:23 PM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:

  Hi All, 

  I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided to do the set up today since 
I had a block of time to work on it. I did call Apple Accessibility to ask for 
assistance since I wanted to be sure everything went smoothly. The tech person 
did a screen sharing session with me on my IPhone 6 since the new phone wasn’t 
set up screen sharing could not be done on the X directly. We did the screen 
sharing and he had me launch the camera so in turn I held the 6 above the 10 
and he was able to view the screen on the new 10. 

  For the most part, it worked out very well. The thing I found most 
frustrating is that the X would lock in a very short time and it kept requiring 
reentry of my pass code numerous times. I found this added unnecessarily to the 
time it took to set up the phone. When the phone was finally up and running and 
I checked out settings, I found it was set to lock after only 30 seconds.

  During setup I also skipped the facial recognition. I need to go to an Apple 
store later in the week since I’ll need a new outerbox and screen protector so 
I think I’ll ask for assistance then in setting up the facial recognition. So 
far the phone seems lovely and its a matter of getting use to new ways of 
unlocking, going to the home screen and the app switcher which don’t seem 
difficult at all. I am finding right now the phone is very fast and very 
responsive. I’m sure I’ll find other things where I’ll need to alter how I do 
things but as of now I am very happy with what I’m experiencing with this phone.

  Eileen

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New IPhone X and Setup.

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi All, 

I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided to do the set up today since I 
had a block of time to work on it. I did call Apple Accessibility to ask for 
assistance since I wanted to be sure everything went smoothly. The tech person 
did a screen sharing session with me on my IPhone 6 since the new phone wasn’t 
set up screen sharing could not be done on the X directly. We did the screen 
sharing and he had me launch the camera so in turn I held the 6 above the 10 
and he was able to view the screen on the new 10. 

For the most part, it worked out very well. The thing I found most frustrating 
is that the X would lock in a very short time and it kept requiring reentry of 
my pass code numerous times. I found this added unnecessarily to the time it 
took to set up the phone. When the phone was finally up and running and I 
checked out settings, I found it was set to lock after only 30 seconds.

During setup I also skipped the facial recognition. I need to go to an Apple 
store later in the week since I’ll need a new outerbox and screen protector so 
I think I’ll ask for assistance then in setting up the facial recognition. So 
far the phone seems lovely and its a matter of getting use to new ways of 
unlocking, going to the home screen and the app switcher which don’t seem 
difficult at all. I am finding right now the phone is very fast and very 
responsive. I’m sure I’ll find other things where I’ll need to alter how I do 
things but as of now I am very happy with what I’m experiencing with this phone.

Eileen

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Re: Well, I caved. lol

[Eileen Scrivani]

Donna, 

When I ordered my 10 I was told it would ship between December 8 to 15. I got a 
notice the other day saying I should get it by the end of this week! I can 
hardly wait.

Eileen


From: Donna Goodin 
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 6:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Well, I caved. lol

Hey Kliph,

It's really good to hear your rave reviews.  I do agree, when I saw the phone 
on Saturday, I was surprised by how much I liked the form factor.

It's supposed to ship on Dec 13, keeping fingers crossed that it ships a little 
earlier. :)
Cheers,
Donna



> On Nov 26, 2017, at 11:35 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I was lucky enough to get mine on launch day.  I didn’t get it from my 
> carrier though, I have a friend who is a verizon customer, he added a line to 
> his account, and gave me the phone.  Of course I am paying him for it, but 
> T-Mobile only opened the doors on launch day to tell customers they didn’t 
> have any.  I wasn’t going to get it, but when I got that device in my hands?  
> It was a no brainer, it felt like a shiny new catalack with no miles on it!  
> It felt so good in my hands, and the design of it?  Man this phone is nice.  
> ANd the new gestures to me now are 2nd nature just like on my iPHone7 and 
> before.  I see that the wait times are down to 1 to 2 weeks, instead of 5 
> weeks.  That is good for anyone who wants one.
>> On Nov 26, 2017, at 7:31 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> That's wonderful.  What a marvelous Christmas present.  
>> 
>> Yesterday, two friends and I walked into an Apple Store.  Quite 
>> off-handedly, one of my friends asked if they had any iPhone 10s in stock.  
>> All three of us were expecting the Apple employee to say, "No."  However, 
>> she said,  "Yes."  After the initial shock wore off, both of my friends, a 
>> husband and wife team, decided to buy two devices, one for each of them.  
>> 
>> We had a lot of fun, setting up their new phones; and I just spoke to them, 
>> today, and they are totally in love with their iPhone 10s.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:56 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Well, I caved. lol
>> 
>> Before the X was released, I had been thinking I would buy it, so that I 
>> could keep my 7 and use it as an iPod.  My current iPod is a 5th Gen Touch, 
>> and it's gotten so slow that I've come close to hurling it at the wall more 
>> than once.  Last night, after my husband and I went to the VZ store, he told 
>> me that if I wanted the X, he'd give it to me for Christmas. So, given the 
>> iPod situation, I decided to go for it.  I figure if I'd bought an iPhone 
>> SE, which was the other option, it would have cost as much, and I would have 
>> gotten a device that was inferior to my 7.
>> 
>> So, after all my posts yesterday, here I am, waiting for my X to ship. lol 
>> Cheers, Donna
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Re: How do you handle entering text in a combo boxes instead of text edit fields?

[Eileen Scrivani]

With a Combo box, you are not typing in, but rather selecting from a list of 
pre-determined choices by using the cursor up/down arrow to place the focus on 
the selection you want to choose. In an edit field you will type information 
in. 

Eileen 

From: Sharon Hooley 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 10:09 PM
To: Mac Visionaries 
Subject: How do you handle entering text in a combo boxes instead of text edit 
fields?

Hi,

I’m not sure what the difference is between combo boxes for entering data and 
edit text fields.  Is there more than just interacting?

Thanks,

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Re: A Mail Question.

[Eileen Scrivani]

Jonathan,

Thanks. I have verizon, but not using Yahoo for mail processing. I use the mail 
app that comes on the Iphone and on my Mac book I again am using the Apple 
supplied Mail app.

On my IPhone 6, the edit button is still at the top right corner of the screen, 
but the delete button does not indicate “all”. Delete just deletes one message 
at a time. I used to be able to open a message, then place one finger on 
delete, leave it there and then with a second finger just keep tapping on the 
delete button as I would rapidly delete one message after another. 

It no longer works the way it used to with the last two plus releases of IOS.

Eileen

From: Jonathan Cohn 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 8:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: A Mail Question.

I remember being able to do this in IOS 8 by clicking the edit button and then 
immediately going down to the delete button which then said trash all. I don't 
believe there is a way to clear an entire mailbox in IOS 10 mail application. 
Since you have a verizon.net address, I assume you are using Yahoo mail… In 
this case you might be able to find a yahoo mail app or perhaps even the google 
mail app and do the deletion from there.  
+ 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn




  On Nov 13, 2017, at 2:35 PM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:

  Sorry, I neglected to state in the below that I want to do this on the 
IPhone, not on the Mac.

  Eileen

  From: Eileen Scrivani 
  Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:00 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: A Mail Question.

  Hello All, 

  Does any one know of a way to select all messages in the inbox and do a mass 
delete? I have accumulated a ton of messages on my phone and I simply want to 
clear out the entire inbox. I need a pain-free way of getting rid of them.

  Any ideas greatly appreciated.

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Re: A Mail Question.

[Eileen Scrivani]

Sorry, I neglected to state in the below that I want to do this on the IPhone, 
not on the Mac.

Eileen

From: Eileen Scrivani 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:00 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: A Mail Question.

Hello All, 

Does any one know of a way to select all messages in the inbox and do a mass 
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clear out the entire inbox. I need a pain-free way of getting rid of them.

Any ideas greatly appreciated.

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A Mail Question.

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hello All, 

Does any one know of a way to select all messages in the inbox and do a mass 
delete? I have accumulated a ton of messages on my phone and I simply want to 
clear out the entire inbox. I need a pain-free way of getting rid of them.

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Re: It's Official: Mark is on iPhone 8 Plus (smile)

[Eileen Scrivani]

I felt the phones and it did not feel larger than the plus to me. It was maybe 
slightly larger than the standard 8.

Eileen


From: Saqib Hussain 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: It's Official: Mark is on iPhone 8 Plus (smile)

Hi. The 10 is an inch bigger in screen size so I’m not sure why you think it’s 
smaller than the 8+?



  On 10 Nov 2017, at 13:56, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:

  Hi Mark, 

  I too went to my local Apple store earlier this week intending to get a new 
phone. I looked at both the 8 and the new 10. I didn’t consider looking at the 
8 plus since I like a phone that takes up smaller real estate in my purse & 
pocket. I still can’t believe I took the plunge, but I ordered an IPhone 10 in 
silver with 256G. I have to say I think the phone is really slick. And even 
though I don’t see the screen I do find myself using the phone for a lot of 
scanning and picture taking these days. I think the better photo ability will 
help at the end of the day. I do think its crazy money to spend on a phone. I 
never in my life thought I’d spend this much on a phone, but I do love my cell 
phone and its so much more than just a phone. This one will have to last me 
longer than usual because I can’t justify upgrading this one in another 3 or 4 
years. To be honest my IPhone 6 is still working perfectly and is in good 
condition. I treated myself and why not we only live once! 

  I will have a learning curve on some of the new gestures once I get the phone 
in 3 to 4 weeks. I also wound up coming home and placing the order by phone 
because I wanted to return my 6 for cash, but to do that I would have been 
without a phone during the 3 or 4 week waiting period on the 10. So once I get 
the 10 I’ll go back to the Apple store and ask for gift cards for my phone and 
my husbands 6 which I had been holding onto. I’ll buy all the necessary 
accessories once I have the gift cards in-hand.

  Enjoy your new 8 plus.

  Eileen

  From: M. Taylor 
  Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:43 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: It's Official: Mark is on iPhone 8 Plus (smile)

  Hello All,

  Well, I was in an Apple Store today just browsing around when I decided to
  go ahead and make the plunge and get a new phone.

  While I have thoroughly enjoyed my time with iPhone 10, believe it or not, I
  do not like its smaller form factor nor, as a low vision user, its display
  aspect-ratio in terms of watching videos.  To me, it's just too narrow.
  Again, this is just my opinion and my opinion, only.

  As for my take on Face ID?  Hmm!  Well, the thrill of it wore off pretty
  fast on me (smile).

  While I have no doubt but that Face ID is here to stay, as well it should, I
  decided to go with a SIM-free, space gray, 256GB iPhone 8 Plus.  

  I was surprised to learn that the SIM-free models of the iPHone 8 series
  launched in the US at the same time as the carrier-branded models.  It used
  to be that the SIM-free models were launched no sooner than two months after
  the carrier-branded models.

  I was told by an Apple Genius, today, that the SIM-free model of iPhone 10
  is not yet available in the US.

  Just as an F.Y.I., in the USA, only the SIM-free models ship with a SIM card
  removal tool.  I have always thought this to be a ridiculous practice of
  Apple for, carrier-branded or not, one may choose to remove the SIM card at
  some point in the future.  Besides, for the amount of money one pays for
  iPhone, I think Apple should include the SIM card removal tool, along with a
  three-course meal, for that matter.  (smile)

  I also purchased Apple Care Plus along with my prerequisite screen
  protector.   

  I was delighted to discover that the 8 plus fits in the same case as my 6
  plus so no added expense, there.

  I updated my Windows iTunes 12.6 to 12.6.3 and it's running beautifully.  

  As I did not update my iPhone 6 Plus to iOS 11.x, I will make a full backup
  to iTunes and restore to the new phone later this weekend.  

  Okay, I know that's more information than you wanted but, what can I say?
  I'm feeling chatty (smile).

  Until Next Time,

  Mark

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Re: It's Official: Mark is on iPhone 8 Plus (smile)

[Eileen Scrivani]

I think it will be a wonderful device. Although, last night while watching 
A.b.C. news at 11 PM they had a short clip about issues with Apple’s new 10 and 
its locking up in the cold. It turned very cold here yesterday and we’re now 
having December/January temps in the 20’s & 30’s. The broadcast said Apple is 
aware of the problem and working on it. Other than that they didn’t give any 
further information.

I’m keeping my fingers crossed that by the time I get my phone in early 
december I’ll get a model that doesn’t have any adversions to cold. Between now 
and then I guess I’ll get knitting and make the thing a protective warming 
case! 

Eileen


From: M. Taylor 
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 10:25 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: It's Official: Mark is on iPhone 8 Plus (smile)

Hello Eileen,

You are so going to love your new iPHone 10.  It really is an amazing piece of 
technology.  

Be sure to keep us posted on how you get on with it, when it arrives.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 5:57 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: It's Official: Mark is on iPhone 8 Plus (smile)

Hi Mark, 
 
I too went to my local Apple store earlier this week intending to get a new 
phone. I looked at both the 8 and the new 10. I didn’t consider looking at the 
8 plus since I like a phone that takes up smaller real estate in my purse & 
pocket. I still can’t believe I took the plunge, but I ordered an IPhone 10 in 
silver with 256G. I have to say I think the phone is really slick. And even 
though I don’t see the screen I do find myself using the phone for a lot of 
scanning and picture taking these days. I think the better photo ability will 
help at the end of the day. I do think its crazy money to spend on a phone. I 
never in my life thought I’d spend this much on a phone, but I do love my cell 
phone and its so much more than just a phone. This one will have to last me 
longer than usual because I can’t justify upgrading this one in another 3 or 4 
years. To be honest my IPhone 6 is still working perfectly and is in good 
condition. I treated myself and why not we only live once! 
 
I will have a learning curve on some of the new gestures once I get the phone 
in 3 to 4 weeks. I also wound up coming home and placing the order by phone 
because I wanted to return my 6 for cash, but to do that I would have been 
without a phone during the 3 or 4 week waiting period on the 10. So once I get 
the 10 I’ll go back to the Apple store and ask for gift cards for my phone and 
my husbands 6 which I had been holding onto. I’ll buy all the necessary 
accessories once I have the gift cards in-hand.
 
Enjoy your new 8 plus.
 
Eileen
 
From: M. Taylor 
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:43 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: It's Official: Mark is on iPhone 8 Plus (smile)
 
Hello All,

Well, I was in an Apple Store today just browsing around when I decided to
go ahead and make the plunge and get a new phone.

While I have thoroughly enjoyed my time with iPhone 10, believe it or not, I
do not like its smaller form factor nor, as a low vision user, its display
aspect-ratio in terms of watching videos.  To me, it's just too narrow.
Again, this is just my opinion and my opinion, only.

As for my take on Face ID?  Hmm!  Well, the thrill of it wore off pretty
fast on me (smile).

While I have no doubt but that Face ID is here to stay, as well it should, I
decided to go with a SIM-free, space gray, 256GB iPhone 8 Plus.  

I was surprised to learn that the SIM-free models of the iPHone 8 series
launched in the US at the same time as the carrier-branded models.  It used
to be that the SIM-free models were launched no sooner than two months after
the carrier-branded models.

I was told by an Apple Genius, today, that the SIM-free model of iPhone 10
is not yet available in the US.

Just as an F.Y.I., in the USA, only the SIM-free models ship with a SIM card
removal tool.  I have always thought this to be a ridiculous practice of
Apple for, carrier-branded or not, one may choose to remove the SIM card at
some point in the future.  Besides, for the amount of money one pays for
iPhone, I think Apple should include the SIM card removal tool, along with a
three-course meal, for that matter.  (smile)

I also purchased Apple Care Plus along with my prerequisite screen
protector.   

I was delighted to discover that the 8 plus fits in the same case as my 6
plus so no added expense, there.

I updated my Windows iTunes 12.6 to 12.6.3 and it's running beautifully.  

As I did not update my iPhone 6 Plus to iOS 11.x, I will make a full backup
to iTunes and restore to the new phone later this weekend.  

Okay, I know that's more information than you wanted but, what can I say?
I'm feeling chatty (smile).

Until Next Time,

Mark

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Re: iPhone x and stylus

[Eileen Scrivani]

I cannot answer your question definitively. However when I was in the Apple 
store looking at both the 8 & the 10 the guy helping me said not a word about 
using a stylus nor did I ask specifically about one since its something I don’t 
use. That doesn’t necessarily mean the answer is that it can’t be used. I 
suggest you talk to Apple directly and ask them directly if its important to 
you and impacts the way you are planning on interacting with the device if 
you’re considering the 10.

You could call their sales number and ask questions – that doesn’t mean you 
have to buy it if you find the answers don’t meet your expectations. 

Eileen


From: Simon Fogarty 
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 4:24 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: iPhone x and stylus

Morning folks,

 

Just a crazy question here as I’m pretty sure the answer is not a chance,

 

I’m looking at some ipHone x wallet cases and one I’ve found has a stylus  with 
it,

 

Correct me if I’m wrong  but the iPhone x or any other version of the iPHone 
can’t work with a stylus  

I thought that was only the iPad pro devices,

 

Or am I missing something here?

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Re: It's Official: Mark is on iPhone 8 Plus (smile)

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi Mark, 

I too went to my local Apple store earlier this week intending to get a new 
phone. I looked at both the 8 and the new 10. I didn’t consider looking at the 
8 plus since I like a phone that takes up smaller real estate in my purse & 
pocket. I still can’t believe I took the plunge, but I ordered an IPhone 10 in 
silver with 256G. I have to say I think the phone is really slick. And even 
though I don’t see the screen I do find myself using the phone for a lot of 
scanning and picture taking these days. I think the better photo ability will 
help at the end of the day. I do think its crazy money to spend on a phone. I 
never in my life thought I’d spend this much on a phone, but I do love my cell 
phone and its so much more than just a phone. This one will have to last me 
longer than usual because I can’t justify upgrading this one in another 3 or 4 
years. To be honest my IPhone 6 is still working perfectly and is in good 
condition. I treated myself and why not we only live once! 

I will have a learning curve on some of the new gestures once I get the phone 
in 3 to 4 weeks. I also wound up coming home and placing the order by phone 
because I wanted to return my 6 for cash, but to do that I would have been 
without a phone during the 3 or 4 week waiting period on the 10. So once I get 
the 10 I’ll go back to the Apple store and ask for gift cards for my phone and 
my husbands 6 which I had been holding onto. I’ll buy all the necessary 
accessories once I have the gift cards in-hand.

Enjoy your new 8 plus.

Eileen

From: M. Taylor 
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:43 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: It's Official: Mark is on iPhone 8 Plus (smile)

Hello All,

Well, I was in an Apple Store today just browsing around when I decided to
go ahead and make the plunge and get a new phone.

While I have thoroughly enjoyed my time with iPhone 10, believe it or not, I
do not like its smaller form factor nor, as a low vision user, its display
aspect-ratio in terms of watching videos.  To me, it's just too narrow.
Again, this is just my opinion and my opinion, only.

As for my take on Face ID?  Hmm!  Well, the thrill of it wore off pretty
fast on me (smile).

While I have no doubt but that Face ID is here to stay, as well it should, I
decided to go with a SIM-free, space gray, 256GB iPhone 8 Plus.  

I was surprised to learn that the SIM-free models of the iPHone 8 series
launched in the US at the same time as the carrier-branded models.  It used
to be that the SIM-free models were launched no sooner than two months after
the carrier-branded models.

I was told by an Apple Genius, today, that the SIM-free model of iPhone 10
is not yet available in the US.

Just as an F.Y.I., in the USA, only the SIM-free models ship with a SIM card
removal tool.  I have always thought this to be a ridiculous practice of
Apple for, carrier-branded or not, one may choose to remove the SIM card at
some point in the future.  Besides, for the amount of money one pays for
iPhone, I think Apple should include the SIM card removal tool, along with a
three-course meal, for that matter.  (smile)

I also purchased Apple Care Plus along with my prerequisite screen
protector.   

I was delighted to discover that the 8 plus fits in the same case as my 6
plus so no added expense, there.

I updated my Windows iTunes 12.6 to 12.6.3 and it's running beautifully.  

As I did not update my iPhone 6 Plus to iOS 11.x, I will make a full backup
to iTunes and restore to the new phone later this weekend.  

Okay, I know that's more information than you wanted but, what can I say?
I'm feeling chatty (smile).

Until Next Time,

Mark

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Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi Karen,

I am in NJ. What is the abbreviation they are using now for video description? 
DVS or DV or a.d.v.? Thanks.

Eileen

From: Karen Lewellen 
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:36 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

Hi Eileen,
Now, this is just a guess, because I am unsure where you are located. 
However the DVD editions of Game of Thrones come out in a set for the 
entire season,  One of the DVD options should be the series with the 
descriptions.  basically it should work the same as you do this normally, 
if the series is in your library I mean.
Hope this helps,
Kare


"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
opposite." Nelson Mandela.

On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Eileen Scrivani wrote:

> I’ve been wanting to watch Game of Throwns on DVD since my sister keeps 
> telling me its a really good show. However, I would like to get it on DVD 
> from my local public library. So, does anyone know how I can determine if the 
> DVD had audio description? I usually listen to these DVD’s on my Mac book 
> using DVD player. I’m not sure what menu to check under to find the DVS 
> option if its available.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Eileen
>
> From: Karen Lewellen
> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 4:43 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?
>
> where are you getting this from?
> Personally I prefer, *legal* sources,  and want to experience it as I
> would
> with  a DVD, i. e. not just the description  but dialogue etc.
> Karen
>
>
> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
> skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
> hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
> love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
> opposite." Nelson Mandela.
>
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>
>> Hello.
>> I have all seasons described in mp3 format.
>> If you want it please contact me off list.
>> I am also interested in other described content so, if someone can set up an 
>> email list or drop box folder let me know.
>> Since this is very much off topic I will not post other info here.
>> Regards.
>> Nektarios.
>>
>>> On 7 Sep 2017, at 23:24, Eric Brinkman <eric.brinkm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is the rest of the series available with audio description as well? And 
>>> where are you getting it from?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Des Delgadillo <desdelgadi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry that last bit was meant for a different message, but the enclosed 
>>>> link was indeed for GOT series 7 with ad
>>>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Des Delgadillo <desdelgadi...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here you go, courtesy of Lee, our fearless leader. 
>>>>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/qlyjxu
>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Eric Brinkman <eric.brinkm...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to watch this show with audio description as well, so 
>>>>>> please reply on the list. I have been trying to get into the series but 
>>>>>> find it very confusing without narration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Daniela Rubio <mabuha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry for this off topic, I never do it. But, just wanted to know if 
>>>>>>> anybody can help me with this. I want to enjoy this TV show in English 
>>>>>>> and audio described. Is it possible somehow?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In Spain, we have  the six first seasons audio described in Spanish, 
>>>>>>> but not the 7 season.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for any reply, and if you want, please write in private as this 
>>>>>>> is an off topic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have a great day!
>>>>>>>
>>>>&

Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

[Eileen Scrivani]

I’ve been wanting to watch Game of Throwns on DVD since my sister keeps telling 
me its a really good show. However, I would like to get it on DVD from my local 
public library. So, does anyone know how I can determine if the DVD had audio 
description? I usually listen to these DVD’s on my Mac book using DVD player. 
I’m not sure what menu to check under to find the DVS option if its available.

Thanks.

Eileen

From: Karen Lewellen 
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 4:43 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

where are you getting this from?
Personally I prefer, *legal* sources,  and want to experience it as I 
would 
with  a DVD, i. e. not just the description  but dialogue etc.
Karen


"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
opposite." Nelson Mandela.

On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

> Hello.
> I have all seasons described in mp3 format.
> If you want it please contact me off list.
> I am also interested in other described content so, if someone can set up an 
> email list or drop box folder let me know.
> Since this is very much off topic I will not post other info here.
> Regards.
> Nektarios.
>
>> On 7 Sep 2017, at 23:24, Eric Brinkman <eric.brinkm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Is the rest of the series available with audio description as well? And 
>> where are you getting it from?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Des Delgadillo <desdelgadi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry that last bit was meant for a different message, but the enclosed 
>>> link was indeed for GOT series 7 with ad
>>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Des Delgadillo <desdelgadi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here you go, courtesy of Lee, our fearless leader. 
>>>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/qlyjxu
>>>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Eric Brinkman <eric.brinkm...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to watch this show with audio description as well, so please 
>>>>> reply on the list. I have been trying to get into the series but find it 
>>>>> very confusing without narration.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Daniela Rubio <mabuha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry for this off topic, I never do it. But, just wanted to know if 
>>>>>> anybody can help me with this. I want to enjoy this TV show in English 
>>>>>> and audio described. Is it possible somehow?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Spain, we have  the six first seasons audio described in Spanish, but 
>>>>>> not the 7 season.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for any reply, and if you want, please write in private as this 
>>>>>> is an off topic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have a great day!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best, Daniela.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: scheduling an Uber ride?

[Eileen Scrivani]

I used the schedule in advance feature last week and the screens clearly state 
that it is not a garuntee of getting a car. If the time window rolls around and 
you don’t have a car I suppose the ride can be cancelled out and then you’' 
have the option of doing real-time or trying to get another car service. . If 
you think you’ll be in a place with a lot of noise or feeling under pressure it 
does make life easier to enter your information & schedule in advance. I’m 
happy they offer it. 

Eileen


From: Mika Pyyhkala 
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:37 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: scheduling an Uber ride?

It might seem convenient, but I would not get that excited about being
able to schedule rides.

When you schedule a ride, my understanding is that the system just
puts your ride request in to the real time queue at some point when it
seems like that would be the best time to leave.

It is not like if you schedule a ride on Monday morning at 6:00am to
go to the airport, that you have a driver that knows they are
scheduled to do that on Sunday night.  The system is just going to put
your request in the real time queue say at 5:45AM, and then you'll get
the next available car.

You could be subject to surge pricing or even a situation where there
are no cars available, although this is no more likely to happen then
when requesting a ride in real time.

I just think the scheduling feature gives users a false sense of
security and a belief that your ride is somehow guaranteed or assigned
to a driver when I think in reality it is just automating entering
your ride request in to the real time queue.

I feel like by using the real time queue I have more control and a
feel for what is going on such as etas for cars and the amount of
surge pricing.

But for those of you that love the scheduling feature, what am I missing? :)

Best,
Mika





On 8/3/17, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nope there are a few test markets.  THere’s a lot of helicopter business for
> example from Lower Manhattan to the Hamptons for example.
>
>
>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:44 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>
>> I thought that was only in dubi
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Thursday, 3 August 2017 2:58 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: scheduling an Uber ride?
>>
>> You can Uber a helicopter now. I want to try this but haven’t yet.
>>
>> On Aug 2, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli
>> <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Nope, no luck.
>> On a not so fun note, just discovered the city where my vet is located has
>> blocked Uber. I had to find another ride home. Not fun!
>>
>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli>
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 11:23 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: scheduling an Uber ride?
>>
>> Again, once you hear the tipping button, swipe with one finger either to
>> the right or left until you hear it say, “schedule in advance.” If you
>> swipe in one direction and don’t hear it then swipe back in the opposite
>> direction.
>>
>> Have you kept the app updated? Perhaps you might want to check in the app
>> store to see if there are any updates.
>>
>> Eileen
>>
>>
>> From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 11:19 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: scheduling an Uber ride?
>>
>> Still no luck. The only thing I see is a tipping button. I have looked
>> everywhere and I cannot find it. I was told we do have it. I even logged
>> off and back on to the app. Also, how do you delete places were you've
>> been? My feed is getting clogged up places that I've traveled that I do
>> not want to save his favorites.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 7:37 PM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Yep, this is fairly easy to set up. Keep in mind that it’s a 15 minute
>> span rather than an exact time. I believe you also get a notification just
>> before the 15 minutes starts and then anot

Re: update on Uber scheduling issues

[Eileen Scrivani]

I have no idea if this makes a difference or not, but I always allow the app to 
track me. It just makes my life easier and so nice whne I go into to do 
something it knows the address of where I’m going to be picked up from or where 
I’m going to. I would think this might be under tha app settings and worth 
while taking a look at.

I’d also make sure notifications are allowed from it as well.

Then too it could be there isn’t service where you live and that would account 
for a difference of only a few miles. Maybe you could check Uber.com to see if 
there is a contact link or email and send them a question asking about the 
issues you’re having.
Eileen


From: Sarai Bucciarelli 
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 3:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: update on Uber scheduling issues

Well,
I am not going crazy. Yes, Uber scheduling is available in Birmingham, but
when I open the app at my house, I do not have that option. I went to the Dr
today and opened the app, and found schedule a ride. I was about 20Mi from
my house. Go figure! LOL. 

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Re: scheduling an Uber ride?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Again, once you hear the tipping button, swipe with one finger either to the 
right or left until you hear it say, “schedule in advance.” If you swipe in one 
direction and don’t hear it then swipe back in the opposite direction.

Have you kept the app updated? Perhaps you might want to check in the app store 
to see if there are any updates.

Eileen


From: Sarai Bucciarelli 
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 11:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: scheduling an Uber ride?

Still no luck. The only thing I see is a tipping button. I have looked 
everywhere and I cannot find it. I was told we do have it. I even logged off 
and back on to the app. Also, how do you delete places were you've been? My 
feed is getting clogged up places that I've traveled that I do not want to save 
his favorites.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 1, 2017, at 7:37 PM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:


  Yep, this is fairly easy to set up. Keep in mind that it’s a 15 minute span 
rather than an exact time. I believe you also get a notification just before 
the 15 minutes starts and then another when you have a driver.  

  I’ve only done this once with Uber and haven’t tried it on Lyft yet though we 
do have it here, and it worked well.

On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:31 PM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:

Sarai, 

I just used this last week and it worked like a charm. Near the bottom of 
the screen, somewhere above the Home button, is a button that says “schedule a 
ride in advance.” If you don’t locate it then swipe either right or left until 
you hear it say just that and then double tap the button.

On the following screen, you can change the date of the ride if it isn’t 
the current date. Then go down a bit and there are picker buttons to select 
hour/minutes and either AM/PM. Once you have the date of your ride then move 
your finger near the bottom of the screen, probably just above the Home button 
again and double tap to “set the date.”

On the following screen you will set your pick up location and destination.

Once you get the address set the next screen for type of Uber ride you want 
will come up automatically. If your good with the uber-x economy then again, 
just above the home button is a “schedule ride” button. Double tap it and your 
ride will be set.

If at any time you need to cancel the ride you can double check it under 
the “upcoming rides” area.

Once your wait time starts I don’t think it will notify you until your ride 
is at the location.

I do wish they would make communicating with the driver easier or at least 
more apparent on the screens.

Good luck.

Eileen
From: Sarai Bucciarelli 
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 5:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: scheduling an Uber ride?

Hi guys:
I was told we can now schedule an Uber ride, but I cannot figure out how to
do with Voiceover. Help!


Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 


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Re: scheduling an Uber ride?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Sarai, 

I just used this last week and it worked like a charm. Near the bottom of the 
screen, somewhere above the Home button, is a button that says “schedule a ride 
in advance.” If you don’t locate it then swipe either right or left until you 
hear it say just that and then double tap the button.

On the following screen, you can change the date of the ride if it isn’t the 
current date. Then go down a bit and there are picker buttons to select 
hour/minutes and either AM/PM. Once you have the date of your ride then move 
your finger near the bottom of the screen, probably just above the Home button 
again and double tap to “set the date.”

On the following screen you will set your pick up location and destination.

Once you get the address set the next screen for type of Uber ride you want 
will come up automatically. If your good with the uber-x economy then again, 
just above the home button is a “schedule ride” button. Double tap it and your 
ride will be set.

If at any time you need to cancel the ride you can double check it under the 
“upcoming rides” area.

Once your wait time starts I don’t think it will notify you until your ride is 
at the location.

I do wish they would make communicating with the driver easier or at least more 
apparent on the screens.

Good luck.

Eileen
From: Sarai Bucciarelli 
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 5:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: scheduling an Uber ride?

Hi guys:
I was told we can now schedule an Uber ride, but I cannot figure out how to
do with Voiceover. Help!


Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 


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Reading Web Braille Files?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi All,

Is there anyone who can tell me the directions for how to open & read a Web 
Braille file on either my Mac Book or on my IPhone with a refreshable display? 
I’ve never done it before and would like to read something without having to 
lug or store a large Braille book.

Thanks for your help.

Eileen

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Need Help With DVD Player.

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi List,

I got the TV series, “Turn, Washington Spies” as a loan from my local library 
so I can watch season 1. The DVD is due back in two weeks and I need to better 
be able to use DVD Player when it loads. Does anyone know how to select 
tracks/episodes from a disk and to get that specific episode playing. I can’t 
sit and watch the entire thing for hours on end. I want to be able to pause it 
from playing and come back to that exact spot when I’m ready to watch it again.

I had a devil of a time just getting the disk to start playing the program last 
night after it was recognized by the computer and DVD Player launched.

It would also be helpful to know how to rewind/fast-forward a few seconds. Any 
tips are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Eileen

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Re: Need a good guitar tuning app

[Eileen Scrivani]

I use Talking Tuner for my violin and it works like a charm. From time to time 
it can get weird and stop announcing the notes aloud. Then I either have to 
touch the screen to find out where things stand, or look around on the screen 
and there should be a button to speak the note value. I find sometimes turning 
that option on/off/on will fix the issue.

HTH.

Eileen


From: Phil Halton 
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 11:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Need a good guitar tuning app

I've been using that for five string banjo for a number of years, but recently 
in one of the updates it stopped talking automatically. I could still read the 
note by touching the screen and finding it there but the auto voicing of the 
note seem to stop. Is it still working good for you? I'll have to revisit it 
and take another look.

Sent from my IPhone


> On May 28, 2017, at 10:57 PM, Cameron Strife <came...@cameronstrife.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi! I use an app on the iPhone called talking tuner.
> It won't give you pitches but it speaks the note you're tuned to and
> how flat or sharp you are in cents so it's very accurate!
> 
> I believe the martin guitar app and various other apps will at least
> give you an A 440 hertz tone you can tune your a string to then tune
> the rest of the guitar using harmonics etc.
> 
> Cameron.
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Re: iPhone glucose meter recommendation

[Eileen Scrivani]

Sorry, I stand corrected. The name of the company that makes the Solus V2 is 
BIOSENSE MEDICAL DEVICES.

Eileen

From: Eileen Scrivani 
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 4:07 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iPhone glucose meter recommendation

Hi John,

I haven’t heard of any glucose meter that is accessible with the IPhone. If you 
find one I wouldn’t mind knowing.  In the meantime, the 2 most popular meters 
for diabetics who are blind are either the “Solus V2” by Bio-reference or the 
Prodigy Meter. A lot of companies push a cheaper Meter that does not have as 
much functionality for a blind diabetic called the Embrace. The embrace does 
not read aloud the results off that meter’s memory.

Good luck.

Eileen


From: John JD Denning 
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 2:43 PM
To: Mac Visionaries 
Subject: iPhone glucose meter recommendation

Greetings all. I hope there's someone out there with diabetes with experience 
with a glucose meter that works well with your iPhone and voiceover. If anybody 
can make a recommendation or share any thoughts I would appreciate it. I don't 
want to just be able to port the information for logging but I'd like something 
that either has good speech itself, or relies on the iPhone.

Thank you


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Re: iPhone glucose meter recommendation

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi John,

I haven’t heard of any glucose meter that is accessible with the IPhone. If you 
find one I wouldn’t mind knowing.  In the meantime, the 2 most popular meters 
for diabetics who are blind are either the “Solus V2” by Bio-reference or the 
Prodigy Meter. A lot of companies push a cheaper Meter that does not have as 
much functionality for a blind diabetic called the Embrace. The embrace does 
not read aloud the results off that meter’s memory.

Good luck.

Eileen


From: John JD Denning 
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 2:43 PM
To: Mac Visionaries 
Subject: iPhone glucose meter recommendation

Greetings all. I hope there's someone out there with diabetes with experience 
with a glucose meter that works well with your iPhone and voiceover. If anybody 
can make a recommendation or share any thoughts I would appreciate it. I don't 
want to just be able to port the information for logging but I'd like something 
that either has good speech itself, or relies on the iPhone.

Thank you


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BARD Express.

[Eileen Scrivani]

I know most of you have already heard about the new Bard Express, but I thought 
this article from the AFB web site gives a good understanding of what its 
supposed to do.  

The original link for the AFB article can be found at:

http://www.afb.org/community/announcements/the-national-library-service-for-the-blind-and-physically-handicapped-nls-receives-new-software-for-braille-and-audio-reading-download-bard-service/12

The text of the article is as follows:

The National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped (NLS) 
Receives New Software for Braille and Audio Reading Download (BARD) Service
Date: 12/21/2016

The National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped (NLS), 
Library of Congress, has accepted the donation of "BARD Express," a 
Windows-based
software program that will aid in the use of the NLS Braille and Audio Reading 
Download (BARD) service. The free software will be available to patrons
of the NLS program in December 2016.

"BARD Express will make browsing BARD audio materials, downloading titles, and 
transferring them to a cartridge or USB drive much easier for patrons using
a PC." said NLS director Karen Keninger. "We hope it will make the thousands of 
books available on BARD readily accessible to more patrons."

BARD Express was the brainchild of Kirk Saathoff, a software developer whose 
wife and son are patrons of the NLS braille and talking book program and 
frequent
users of BARD. "For years, I watched my wife sometimes become a bit annoyed 
with her computer, and I know [most] software is designed without regard for
people with disabilities," Saathoff said. "My hope in developing this software 
was that it would allow more people to enjoy books while minimizing the
time and frustration involved in accessing them."

BARD Express manages audio materials that users download to their computer and 
categorizes the materials by books, magazines, read items, and unread items
for easy sorting. The program also simplifies downloading and transferring 
talking books to a cartridge or USB drive by providing a button that unzips
and transfers the files to an external storage device. It also provides device 
management options from the main menu. 

Don Olson, BARD operations manager at NLS said, "BARD Express enables NLS 
patrons to more easily unzip the books they download from BARD. Gone are the
days of having to carry out multiple file management steps in order to place a 
book or magazine on an NLS cartridge or a USB drive." 

Olson explained that BARD Express "provides step-by-step menus to more easily 
move books from a PC to a patron's device of choice." The program will simplify
searching for titles on BARD by presenting various searching and browsing 
options from the main menu, such as search by series, search by keyword, browse
the recently added and most popular lists, and browse the magazine collection."

According to Olson, NLS plans to release the software, along with support 
resources—such as a BARD Express "how-to" video series, Frequently Asked 
Questions
about BARD Express, and a Getting Started Guide for supporting library staff in 
the network of cooperating libraries. A link to the download site for the
new free, software will be provided on BARD in December 2016.

URL: 
https://nlsbardpractice.loc.gov/LOC_02/BARDExpress.html?loclr=eabard

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Re: A Few Basic Mail Questions.

[Eileen Scrivani]

Chris, 

Do you know the command that will get me to the begging & end of the message 
list?  Thanks.

Eileen


From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 5:02 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: A Few Basic Mail Questions.

Option command left and right arrow? wuh? I've never heard a that. What did I 
miss?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Anders Holmberg 
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  Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 4:57 PM
  Subject: Re: A Few Basic Mail Questions.

  Hi! 
  Try option command left arrow and option command right arrow to go to top or 
bottom.
  You can use the shift key in conjunction with these keys to if you want to 
mark mails and remove them.
  Otherwise use arrow up or down with the shift key to mark the mails you want 
to remove.
  Hope this helps.
  /A

4 dec. 2016 kl. 22:43 skrev Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net>:

Hi, 

I have a few basic mail questions.  This is in the latest OS. 

First I need to know the commands that will allow navigating to go to the 
very top & very bottom of the messages in the in-box.

Second, what command will perform a mass deletion of messages in the 
in-box?  Both of these are on a laptop so keep in mind the computer doesn’t 
have a numeric keypad.

Thanks for the help.

Eileen

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Re: A Few Basic Mail Questions.

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi,

I tried Command + Option left/right and neither worked.  Any other commands to 
going directly to the first & last message in the table?  I was interacting 
with the messages table when I tried this. Quick Nav was off. And it just did 
nothing.

Does any one know what the command is that will get me directly to the first & 
last messages in the in-box?  There are so many messages the method of using 
down/up arrow is painful.

Thanks for any help.

Eileen


From: Anders Holmberg 
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 4:57 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: A Few Basic Mail Questions.

Hi! 
Try option command left arrow and option command right arrow to go to top or 
bottom.
You can use the shift key in conjunction with these keys to if you want to mark 
mails and remove them.
Otherwise use arrow up or down with the shift key to mark the mails you want to 
remove.
Hope this helps.
/A

  4 dec. 2016 kl. 22:43 skrev Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net>:

  Hi, 

  I have a few basic mail questions.  This is in the latest OS. 

  First I need to know the commands that will allow navigating to go to the 
very top & very bottom of the messages in the in-box.

  Second, what command will perform a mass deletion of messages in the in-box?  
Both of these are on a laptop so keep in mind the computer doesn’t have a 
numeric keypad.

  Thanks for the help.

  Eileen

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A Few Basic Mail Questions.

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi, 

I have a few basic mail questions.  This is in the latest OS. 

First I need to know the commands that will allow navigating to go to the very 
top & very bottom of the messages in the in-box.

Second, what command will perform a mass deletion of messages in the in-box?  
Both of these are on a laptop so keep in mind the computer doesn’t have a 
numeric keypad.

Thanks for the help.

Eileen

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Re: A Mail Boxes Question.

[Eileen Scrivani]

Thanks Matthew,

This worked like a charm!

Eileen


From: Matthew Dierckens 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 9:31 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: A Mail Boxes Question.

Morning Eileen,
If you press command shift M, it will unhide of the mailboxes list. I hope 
you're doing well.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2016, at 09:26, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:


  Hello All, 

  I am uncertain if I have mail boxes hidden on my Mac Book Pro or not.  

  It used to be that I could navigate to a mail boxes table and select the one 
I wanted.  I am running Yosemite, but am no longer finding the table.  In 
reading the past few messages about focusing on messages, it made me wonder if 
somehow the mail boxes got hidden.  I can do a Command+F1 to get into the 
In-box.

  Thank you for any input on what I might need to do and where I will need to 
look.

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A Mail Boxes Question.

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hello All, 

I am uncertain if I have mail boxes hidden on my Mac Book Pro or not.  

It used to be that I could navigate to a mail boxes table and select the one I 
wanted.  I am running Yosemite, but am no longer finding the table.  In reading 
the past few messages about focusing on messages, it made me wonder if somehow 
the mail boxes got hidden.  I can do a Command+F1 to get into the In-box.

Thank you for any input on what I might need to do and where I will need to 
look.

Eilee

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Re: .KWT file Type?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Yes, you’re right, I was thinking of an older device we used to have where you 
could turn the device on its side and use the keys to enter in Braille.  I 
thought he had figured some way of doing it on the VRS.  But I just responded 
to C.G.’s reply and in fact the file was created on a Braille Note, not a VRS.

Eileen


From: Gabe Griffith 
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: .KWT file Type?

Hi, 

A kwt file is a text file created on a HumanWare BrailleNote. The only files 
you can actually create on a victor reader are recorded notes.

HTH

Gabe


On Jul 31, 2016, at 1:30 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:


 I don’t know. I have never heard of that format until I did a Google 
search. You might want to contact HW about that if it was created on a Stream. 


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On Jul 31, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:

Thanks John.  I just got a bit more information from my husband. Turns out  
he created the file on his Victor Reader Stream so would this have caused the 
problem in copying it to the Mac?  Could it be that perhaps the format is 
somehow not a true .txt format? Virc mentioned in the link you sent isn’t 
anything he has on the Windows computer so we aren’t sure where this came from.

Eileen

From: John Panarese 
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: .KWT file Type?

   This is what I found about .KWT files. 

http://www.file-extensions.org/kwt-file-extension


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  On Jul 31, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> 
wrote:

  Hi,

  Does any one know what a .KWT file type is on the Mac?  My husband had 
copied a number of .DOC & .TXT files onto the Mac and when he looked in the 
document folder it was listing what was a .txt on Windows as a .KWT file 
extension.

  Thanks.

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Re: .KWT file Type?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi Chris, 

Right you are!  I asked him earlier and he said he did it on the Humanware and 
I thought VRS, but in fact he did create it on a Braille Note.

Thanks, and sorry to others for getting it confused.

Eileen

From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 7:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: .KWT file Type?

Does he have a braille note?
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  From: Eileen Scrivani 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 4:15 PM
  Subject: Re: .KWT file Type?

  Thanks John.  I just got a bit more information from my husband. Turns out  
he created the file on his Victor Reader Stream so would this have caused the 
problem in copying it to the Mac?  Could it be that perhaps the format is 
somehow not a true .txt format? Virc mentioned in the link you sent isn’t 
anything he has on the Windows computer so we aren’t sure where this came from.

  Eileen

  From: John Panarese 
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:42 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: .KWT file Type?

 This is what I found about .KWT files. 

  http://www.file-extensions.org/kwt-file-extension


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On Jul 31, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:

Hi,

Does any one know what a .KWT file type is on the Mac?  My husband had 
copied a number of .DOC & .TXT files onto the Mac and when he looked in the 
document folder it was listing what was a .txt on Windows as a .KWT file 
extension.

Thanks.

Eileen

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Re: .KWT file Type?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Thanks John.  I just got a bit more information from my husband. Turns out  he 
created the file on his Victor Reader Stream so would this have caused the 
problem in copying it to the Mac?  Could it be that perhaps the format is 
somehow not a true .txt format? Virc mentioned in the link you sent isn’t 
anything he has on the Windows computer so we aren’t sure where this came from.

Eileen

From: John Panarese 
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: .KWT file Type?

   This is what I found about .KWT files. 

http://www.file-extensions.org/kwt-file-extension


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  On Jul 31, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:

  Hi,

  Does any one know what a .KWT file type is on the Mac?  My husband had copied 
a number of .DOC & .TXT files onto the Mac and when he looked in the document 
folder it was listing what was a .txt on Windows as a .KWT file extension.

  Thanks.

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.KWT file Type?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi,

Does any one know what a .KWT file type is on the Mac?  My husband had copied a 
number of .DOC & .TXT files onto the Mac and when he looked in the document 
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Re: Talking tuner app

[Eileen Scrivani]

I use talking tuner and for some time now from time to time, it will not 
announce the note played aloud.  If I touch the screen near the top it does, 
however, display the note value.  I can usually get it talking again by doing a 
swipe right/left until its says “enable automatic speach”.  Then even if it 
says its on, I one-finger double tap it to off and then turn it on again.  Next 
time I play a note it will speak it out loud.  As for if it is announcing the 
correct note – I’m not good enough to know that I just go by how it sounds.

I’m running it on an IPhone 6.

Eileen

From: Phil Halton 
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:19 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Talking tuner app

Has anyone had problems with the Talking tuner? Suddenly it won't auto announce 
the note pitches when I play a tone. I've checked all the settings and 
everything is as it should be. It always worked fine until just recently. The 
note display on the screen is correct, but sometimes it's off by many 
semitones. Also. I'm running the app on a success plus and I've deleted the app 
and read downloaded it to try to clear things up with no joy. Any help? 
Finally, are there any other tuning app suggestions from the list? I do even go 
as far as using a pitchpipe app if there was one that's good and available.

Sent from my IPhone

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Re: blue tooth headsets

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi, 

I bought a pair of the After Shocks, while the sound isn’t bad, its not exactly 
great either.  I suppose the one thing I like about them is they don’t sit on 
the ear so you can hear other things going on around you and if its hot you 
don’t have the cups right on your ears.  On the other hand, that same thing not 
being on/over the ears lets you hear background noise when listening, say to an 
audio book.  If the contact of the headphone piece isn’t situated just so on 
the bone of your face it can also impact the sound and ability to hear.  They 
are light weight and travel nicely.. 

The other thing about the After Shocks headphones that I really dislike is 
having to charge them up to use them.  And there is not a way to know how much 
charge is left.

The headphones I really love are my Bose over-head noise cancelling.  Sound 
quality is fantastic and blocks out a lot of background noise.  On the negative 
side they are larger and difficult if your traveling and trying to keep things 
light.  There is a higher price tag associated with them, but Bose is great 
quality.

HTH.

Eileen 

From: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
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Subject: Re: blue tooth headsets

well i would rather not be the test pilot for them it seems everyone has 
aftershokz as their first choice. what kind of money am i looking at for a 
pair. my brother is going to check for me later. thanks max 
On Mar 18, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> Volume is subjective based on many factors, but at full blast I can hear the 
> Aftershokz over traffic. I'm not in a city as busy as yours, though. As to 
> sound leaking, they've done a lot of work in that area lately. The new Trekz 
> and Bluez are supposed to practically eliminate the problem, but I have yet 
> to test that claim. I hear it's much better than it was, though. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 15:31, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The problem I have with the Aftershokz stuff is that first it leaks like a 
>> sieve, and secondly they aren’t very loud.  They’re good for the TTS if you 
>> turn the volume up, but a lot of recordings at normal levels just won’t go 
>> that loud even if you’ve used iTunes to bump up the playback volume.  And 
>> that’s important if you’re in London with lots of howling traffic.  Of 
>> course the obvious countermeasure to this problem, that of plugging your 
>> ears, is just as dangerous as turning the volume right up.
>> 
>> So I’m also wondering where to go from here, except it probably won’t be 
>> Aftershokz—or if it is, it won’t be Aftershokz Sport.
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Re: Moderator NOTE: Regarding Anne Robertson's New Book and Copyrighted Material, in General

[Eileen Scrivani]

Mark, 

I for one am glad to read your message which sounds to uphold Copyright law.  I 
bought the book and would not ever have the nerve to copy and paste protected 
materials to any list or group.  Anne is making a living from her knowledge and 
sale of written materials.  Besides, she contributes graciously to the list on 
many occasions.

I am glad to know you stood up for what is right.

Eileen 


From: M. Taylor 
Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 2:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Moderator NOTE: Regarding Anne Robertson's New Book and Copyrighted 
Material, in General

Hello Everyone,

Although I try to read every post to the list, from time-to-time, a thread
escapes my attention.  

This was the case regarding the thread on Anne Robertson's new book on the
Pages application.

Certain posts to that thread were forwarded to me and while I was so
delighted to see that many of us do not condone violating the copyrights of
others, I feel it necessary to comment on this matter so that future posters
will be aware of the list policy on such issues.

Simply stated, this group will not tolerate any post advocating theft,
intellectual or otherwise by one member against another.  

Anyone who post to the list stating that they intend to copy, without
permission, the property, intellectual or otherwise, of another member will
be banned from the group.

Please read the above carefully as neither Cara nor I have any problem with
members discussing whether or not DRM is good or bad.  

What we are stating is that we will not tolerate one member posting that
he/she intends to copy, without permission, the work, intellectual or
otherwise, of another member.

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Question About Bluetooth Speakers for A Mac Book....

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi All, 

I was given a very cool little bluetooth speaker for Christmas.  Its a Lyrics 
Jive.  While I’ll primarily use it with my IPhone, I was wondering if it can be 
used on my Mac Book.

Yesterday, we were going to listen to a DVD on my Macbook, but the volume just 
would not pump out the sound.  If the speaker can be paired with the computer, 
will it enhance the volume/sound??  

Thanks.  Any input is appreciated.

Eileen 

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Re: Where To Ehnter New Router Password?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Jeff, 

Thank you.  I don’t know why but the dialog did not pop up after I selected the 
router’s name.  Even after restarting the computer it took quite some time and 
finally, finally the dialog you describe came up.  

For future reference, It is also under system preferences, under network, but 
at first I was not even finding the necessary password field there for quite 
some time.  I don’t know why this computer is so slow to recognize a connection 
like this.  

All seems to be working fine now, so thanks again. 

Eileen  

From: jeff `greene 
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 4:00 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Where To Ehnter New Router Password?

Hi Eileen, Go to the extras menu, hit enter on your router's name. A
dialog will pop up, the first item will be the password, followed by a
check box to remember the network, then join and cancel. Just type
your password, tab and check the box to remember the network, and tab
again and hit enter on join.
Hope this helps! Jeff


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>
> We just updated our home Router and while my Mac Book Pro recognizes the new
> router name, I cannot locate where on the machine to enter the new password.
>  I am assuming this is necessary since without the password it keeps telling
> me I don’t have service.  I clearly see the new name in a table list, but
> not an input area to type the pswd.  This was under the Menus Extra YFi and
> also under system preferences Network.
>
> Thanks for any pointers to where I need to look.
>
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Where To Ehnter New Router Password?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi All, 

We just updated our home Router and while my Mac Book Pro recognizes the new 
router name, I cannot locate where on the machine to enter the new password.  I 
am assuming this is necessary since without the password it keeps telling me I 
don’t have service.  I clearly see the new name in a table list, but not an 
input area to type the pswd.  This was under the Menus Extra YFi and also under 
system preferences Network.

Thanks for any pointers to where I need to look.

Eileen 

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Re: getting the current time

[Eileen Scrivani]

If you have Key Board Commanders enabled, then the right Command + T will give 
you the date and time.  

From: Marie Lyons 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:51 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: getting the current time

Is there a command to get the time like there was on windows with jaws?

Marie Lyons

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Re: ibooks is driving me crazy

[Eileen Scrivani]

If you can access the table of contents, I believe you must choose the page 
from the TOC in El Capitan.  But, I forget how you get to the reading area.  
Before I went back to Yosemite, if I remember correctly, it would always skip 
back to a previous page where I had a book mark set.  

HTH.

Eileen


From: Andrew Lamanche 
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 12:35 PM
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Subject: ibooks is driving me crazy

Hi,

I don't seem to be able to work out anything in ibooks under El Capitan.

I can't open any menus, I can't find preferences, I don't seem to be able to 
read books or change pages in a book, please help!  This is desperate.  I feel 
so helpless.  Ibooks gets busy very often when I land on the reading area which 
it doesn't report anyway.  How do I go from page to page if I want to skip 
pages, or chapter to chapter?

Many thanks, in frustration

Andrew

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Re: Clean install of El Capitan

[Eileen Scrivani]

Anne, 

Thanks so much for your step by step directions.  I will be sure to save the 
instructions. 

Thanks again. 

Eileen


From: Anne Robertson 
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 10:05 AM
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Clean install of El Capitan

Hello everyone,

I know this has been covered before, but here’s how to do a clean install of El 
Capitán.

Cheers,

Anne


Download El Capitán from the Appstore.
When it opens the installer, quit it.
Make sure you have a spare 8 gb USB drive and give it the name Untitled.
Prepare your USB Flash Drive.

To format the USB drive open Disk Utility. Plug the drive into your Mac.

Select the USB Flash drive from the table in Disk Utility.
Select the “Erase” tab.
Make sure the Format is set to Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
As for the name, leave it as “Untitled”.
Finally click the Erase tab.

Terminal Command

Simply copy and paste this into Terminal and press the Return key:

sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ 
Capitan.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled 
--applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ Capitan.app --nointeraction

Since the above command uses the sudo attribute you will be required to enter 
your password to start the process.

Once the process starts you will see this in Terminal:

Erasing Disk: 0%… 10%… 20%…100%…
Copying installer files to disk…
Copy complete.
Making disk bootable…
Copying boot files…
Copy complete.
Done.

This process can take a while since it’s copying gigabytes of data over. Leave 
it alone and let it do its thing.

Installation.

First of all, make sure you have a Time Machine backup of your system, then 
shut down your computer.
With the installer USB drive plugged in, hold down the Option key and press the 
Power key.
Give it about 30 seconds, then press Right arrow once if you have no recovery 
partition, or twice if you have.
Press Return and wait.
After a few minutes, press Cmd-F5 to start VoiceOver.
The first screen is the Language Chooser, so press Continue.
You should now have a table of Utilities. Select Disk Utility and erase your 
internal hard drive. (Sometimes, VoiceOver gets stuck at this point and you may 
need sighted help to get out of trouble).
Once the HD is erased, select the installer and let it do its thing.
Eventually, you will be asked if you have another computer or a Time Machine 
backup. This is the point at which you connect your Time Machine drive, and 
just follow the instructions.

All your applications and data will be restored, except for any apps that are 
not compatible with El Capitán.
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Re: update on voiceover issue.

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi Anne, 

I’m not Jessica, but I would not mind having clear cut instructions on how to 
go about a clean install.  I have had my Mac Book Pro reset to Yosemite and am 
very Leary about trying to re-install 
El Cap again.  Until subscribing to this list I never heard of a “clean 
install” and it does sound rather daunting.  I’m not sure I want to go back to 
El Capitan, but at some point in time I would think Apple will release a better 
update that works properly with VO.

Thanks,

Eileen 


From: Anne Robertson 
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 3:50 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: update on voiceover issue.

Hello Jessica,

If you just did an update to Yosemite, you should try doing a clean install of 
El Capitan. I’ve seen so much trouble with this update that I would discourage 
anyone from doing a simple update rather than a clean install.

If you need instructions, I’ll post them.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 7 Nov 2015, at 00:26, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Ok, I've managed to somewhat get everything working, after running a virus 
> scan, and it apparently finding nothing, and everything acting up.  something 
> told me to try this, and I have no idea what, but if I press and hold the 
> escape key for about 2 seconds, everything fixes itself for about a minutte 
> or so, so I can scroll through stuff, and operate like normal, then 
> everything goes back to acting up again.  I have no idea what could be 
> causing this, and seems to be doing so much stuff that I don't know what to 
> do searches for to try to remmody it.
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Where Are Music complications Placed By Itunes?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi folks, 

Where is ITunes placing music compilations that I have imported from CD when 
they in turn go to my IPhone?  I keep my music on my Win 8.x computer and I 
have no problems locating the various CDs under the Itunes Media folder on my 
Windows computer.  However, I am total unsure where this category of music is 
being placed on my IPhone.  

Certain cds such as violin/fiddle learning CDs are placed in a compilation 
folder, but when I look on my IPhone, I cannot locate the music.  I keep the 
music grouped by artist and under artist, I see the titles of the CD and under 
that track titles, but not for these compilations.  I’ve checked under Unknown 
and they don’t appear there either.  Also, I had a large collection of 
classical music purchased through ITunes, that was also placed in compilations, 
and on the phone I can’t find where it has gone.  If I had my way, I’d like to 
have these things list under their CD title and tracks grouped under each 
title.  Any ideas where I should be looking?  

Thanks.

Eileen

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Re: Read all key strokes on the MAC

[Eileen Scrivani]

If you have a track pad, like I have on my Mac Book Pro, you can start reading 
with a 2-finger swipe down.  Then just tap the control key to stop it reading 
or tap control again to start it up.  It will only start again if you just 
pause and don’t do something or go somewhere else on the computer.

HTH.

Eileen


From: percygarrett 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 5:10 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Read all key strokes on the MAC

Hello,what are the commands to read all text on the MAC? On a windows 
computer, I use the insert and down arrow keys. Thanks in advance!

- Original Message - 
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <kgli...@icloud.com>
To: "Macvisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: Bowers and Wilkins Zeppelin Air.


>I have certainly used the Zeppelin Air but may be not the one you speak of.
>
> Very easy to download the Control app from the app store and install the 
> Zeppelin Air by following the onscreen instructions.  I will have a look 
> at this new product as I loved the airplay speaker.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Kawal.
>> On 31 Oct 2015, at 16:25, Sadam Ahmed <sadam.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Considering the BW Zeppelin Air for a new audio system.
>>
>> Does anyone have experience with these speakers?
>>
>> Any feedback on set up etc would be appreciated.
>>
>> Yours truly,
>>
>> Sadam Ahmed
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Am I hearing Things?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi All, 

This is probably really minor, but when I do a VO Shift D to go to the desktop, 
I swear I am hearing the Alex voice say “Maintosh HD Volume.”  Has anyone else 
heard this?  I know the list has discussed problems with the Samantha voice, 
but I’ve always kept the voice set to Alex.  I find it so weird that of all the 
words to mis-pronounce its not able to annunciate Macintosh correctly.  

Just wondering. 

Eileen 

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SetUp After OS Installation?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi All, 

It dawned on me that a bunch of things on my Mac Book Pro were not set 
correctly after I had the computer re-set/downgraded to Yosemite.  So far, I’ve 
re-enabled the keyboard commanders, have allowed for using the Tab key on web 
pages, have used Command-2 to set to list views where I’ve noticed grids, 
re-set up sound effects and am little by little working on putting things back 
to working order.  My question is is there any thing else accessibility related 
that you can suggest I should check to see if settings are correct and will 
make working on the computer easier? 

Thanks for your input.

Eileen  

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Re: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.

[Eileen Scrivani]

I’m having the problem on an Iphone 6. 

Eileen


From: William Gallik 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 3:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.

I don't have KNFB Reader on my iPhone at this time, but I do have a couple of 
questions just out of curiosity:
– Is this happening on the iPhone sixS and the 6S+  only? Or are other iOS 
devices likewise affected?

– Is this something that has started with the release of iOS 9.1?

– Bill and Leader Dog Hollan





- Bill 
- Sent from "Bill's iPhone 6"
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Re: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.

[Eileen Scrivani]

Yes, exactly the same problem I was having with it this afternoon while trying 
to scan a few pages from a book.  The number for speed kept saying 20% and when 
I tried to tap  and then flick up/down it would do “N.O.T.H.I.N.G.”



From: Jamie Pauls 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:43 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.

It's actually 20% and it seems to reset itself each time. I'm calling this a 
major bug.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
> Guys, we have a problem.
> 
> I just opened up the KNFB Reader app on my IPhone 6S, and went to scan a 
> document.  The scan was fine, considering the content I was scanning, however 
> the female voice that reads the material was obviously on Ambian or 
> something, as she was so darn slow that it wasn't funny!  Put your Iphone to 
> about 10% speaking rate... there you pretty much have it.
> 
> How in the world do I adjust this?
> 
> Chris.
> 
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Re: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.

[Eileen Scrivani]

I’m not sure exactly when it started in the KFB Reader, but I suspect it was 
with the release of IOS 9.  At that time I needed to use a web site for a 
purchase and when prompted to update my credit card info (i.e. experation month 
and year) using picker buttons, it would not work.  Other people on the 
IDevices list said they have had the problem with the picker buttons ... same 
type of thing as in KFB Reader where you need to double tap then flick up/down 
to change/select a value.  Its just not working.

In all honesty, I have not had a reason to try updating credit card info again, 
but I doubt its been fixed since so many other things are working crappily.  

Eileen

From: M. Taylor 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 10:34 PM
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Subject: RE: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.

Hello,

I, too, am experiencing this problem.  

The thing is, I don't see how to set a new default speech rate.  If such a 
mechanism exists, then we'd be in business.  

Was it possible to set a new speech rate previously?

Mark


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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.

It's actually 20% and it seems to reset itself each time. I'm calling this a 
major bug.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Guys, we have a problem.
> 
> I just opened up the KNFB Reader app on my IPhone 6S, and went to scan a 
> document.  The scan was fine, considering the content I was scanning, however 
> the female voice that reads the material was obviously on Ambian or 
> something, as she was so darn slow that it wasn't funny!  Put your Iphone to 
> about 10% speaking rate... there you pretty much have it.
> 
> How in the world do I adjust this?
> 
> Chris.
> 
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Fw: BARD Mobile app update is here for iOS!

[Eileen Scrivani]

FYI ... thought some of you may not be aware so sorry for any duplication.

Eileen


From: NJSL TBBC 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 1:31 PM
To: NJSL TBBC 
Subject: BARD Mobile app update is here for iOS!

We are pleased to inform you that the BARD Mobile app for iOS mobile devices 
has been updated.  Version 1.1 can be downloaded from the Apple App Store. 
According to the National Library Service for the Blind and Handicapped, this 
updated version of the app includes the following features:

 

•   Built-in sleep timer

•   New setting that keeps device from sleeping while download is in 
progress

•   Add to wish list directly from details screen

•   Enhanced braille search function

•   Improved VoiceOver hints and labels

•   New braille shortcut key

•   Improved Magic Tap response

•   Works with iOS 9

 

The BARD Mobile app enables NLS patrons to download audio and braille books, 
magazines, and music scores directly to their iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch, 
provided they have a BARD account. A refreshable braille display is required to 
read downloaded braille materials. The user guide is available in the Help 
section of the app and online in HTML format at: 
https://nlsbard.loc.gov/apidocs/BARDMobile.userguide.iOS.1.1.html . You can 
also visit TBBC’s BARD Mobile app web page at 
http://www.njstatelib.org/talking_books_and-braille/books/bard_mobile_app 

 

Do you have questions about BARD Mobile?  Call TBBC at 800-792-8322 and hold 
the line to speak with a readers’ advisor.

 

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Files Question.

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi, 

I had my Mac Book restored to Yosemity last week.  I’ve recopied my files back 
onto the computer, but have a question about the files I copied over from a USB 
drive.  

I copied 3 folders from my  Windows 8 computer.  The files are a combination of 
.DOC (MS Word) .TXT & .PDF files.  They are in the folders on the Mac.  
However, before I get to the file names I recognize, I have a series of files 
that all seem to begin with ~$ then the file name.  Some say they are MS Word 
docs, but others indicate they are Unixe executable files.  I have no idea why 
they are there or where they came from.  Can anyone please explain what they 
are, why they are there and can I delete them from the folders?  Below the list 
of all the ones that start with ~$ is the real file list of names I am able to 
open in Text Edit and read.

Thanks for any input.

Eileen 

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