Re: saving in text edit

2013-07-20 Thread Alex Hall
Indeed there are, and it's worth a google if you're bored one day. Apps like 
Tinker Tool can do a lot of them for you, but some are terminal-only. For 
instance, I recently enabled Airdrop on a 2007 Mac running Lion through 
Terminal and it works great.
On Jul 20, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> Thanks for that answer. I had not seen any options in the regular preferences 
> for TextEdit. I guess there's a lot of more powerful options out there that 
> can be set through terminal.
> 
> On Jul 20, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Daniel C  wrote:
> 
>> Sure. In terminal, you can type this, exactly as it's written and iCloud 
>> won't be the default location.
>> defaults write NSGlobalDomain NSDocumentSaveNewDocumentsToCloud -bool false
>> And press enter. Then, exit terminal and when you re-launch text edit, 
>> you'll have your local drive as primary location. Of course, you'll still be 
>> able to save to iCloud, it just won't be the first option to save to anymore.
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Re: saving in text edit

2013-07-20 Thread Daniel C
Sure. In terminal, you can type this, exactly as it's written and iCloud won't 
be the default location.
defaults write NSGlobalDomain NSDocumentSaveNewDocumentsToCloud -bool false
And press enter. Then, exit terminal and when you re-launch text edit, you'll 
have your local drive as primary location. Of course, you'll still be able to 
save to iCloud, it just won't be the first option to save to anymore.

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Re: saving in text edit

2013-07-20 Thread Steve Holmes
Thanks for that answer. I had not seen any options in the regular preferences 
for TextEdit. I guess there's a lot of more powerful options out there that can 
be set through terminal.

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> Sure. In terminal, you can type this, exactly as it's written and iCloud 
> won't be the default location.
> defaults write NSGlobalDomain NSDocumentSaveNewDocumentsToCloud -bool false
> And press enter. Then, exit terminal and when you re-launch text edit, you'll 
> have your local drive as primary location. Of course, you'll still be able to 
> save to iCloud, it just won't be the first option to save to anymore.
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Re: saving in text edit

2013-07-20 Thread Alex Hall
I don't recall just where, but you can change that in Text Edit's preferences - 
you'll want the "local machine" option instead of iCloud, and then it will work 
as expected. Many people want this change, so Google has plenty of articles on 
the topic.
On Jul 20, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> I have one other question related to saving files in Text Edit. In my case, 
> the default location is always iCloud and I have to change it to one of my 
> local folders each time I save a new file. Is there a way to make it not 
> default to iCloud?
> 
> On Jul 12, 2013, at 1:05 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
>> When you press command-s it will display the save/save as dialogue, unless 
>> the file has already been saved. If the file has already been saved you have 
>> a few options.
>> YOu can navigate to the left up near the toolbar to the file actions pop up 
>> button. In this button are options such as rename file, move file and 
>> duplicate file. You can also get these functions from the file menu. These 
>> will allow you to do the same things as save as. If, for instance, you 
>> duplicate the file, you can then press command-s to bring up the save 
>> dialogue to choose a file name, file type and file location etcetera. The 
>> original file will not be changed.
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Re: saving in text edit

2013-07-20 Thread Steve Holmes
I have one other question related to saving files in Text Edit. In my case, the 
default location is always iCloud and I have to change it to one of my local 
folders each time I save a new file. Is there a way to make it not default to 
iCloud?

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wrote:

> When you press command-s it will display the save/save as dialogue, unless 
> the file has already been saved. If the file has already been saved you have 
> a few options.
> YOu can navigate to the left up near the toolbar to the file actions pop up 
> button. In this button are options such as rename file, move file and 
> duplicate file. You can also get these functions from the file menu. These 
> will allow you to do the same things as save as. If, for instance, you 
> duplicate the file, you can then press command-s to bring up the save 
> dialogue to choose a file name, file type and file location etcetera. The 
> original file will not be changed.
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Re: question of the day, page count in text edit

2013-07-17 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Hi there.:)

You can get a dashboard widget which will give you character and word count, I 
don't know about page count, but probably. If you Google for dashboard widget 
and line counter, you should find it.

If you've already gone this way, I'm sorry for the redundancy.

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On Jul 17, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers 
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> Hi Ray
> 
> Dunno, Nanocount is just the name of the wee app that does a basic word and 
> character count for Text Edit and probably other apps that don't have a word 
> count of their own.
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question of the day, page count in text edit

2013-07-17 Thread Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers
Hi Ray

Dunno, Nanocount is just the name of the wee app that does a basic word and 
character count for Text Edit and probably other apps that don't have a word 
count of their own.

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Re: question of the day, page count in text edit

2013-07-16 Thread Ray Foret jr
What's the difference between Nannocount and Wordcount?


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> Get nanocount. It gives you a simple word count for Text Edit.
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question of the day, page count in text edit

2013-07-15 Thread Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers
Get nanocount. It gives you a simple word count for Text Edit.

Regards

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question of the day, page count in text edit

2013-07-15 Thread jean parker
All:
I have looked and can't find it.  How do I get a page count in text edit?  I 
have seen it for documents I have opened from other sources but can't find it 
for a document I am writing.  
Also, the word counter web site someone posted before is very helpful.
Jean

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Re: saving in text edit

2013-07-12 Thread Nicholas Parsons
When you press command-s it will display the save/save as dialogue, unless the 
file has already been saved. If the file has already been saved you have a few 
options.
YOu can navigate to the left up near the toolbar to the file actions pop up 
button. In this button are options such as rename file, move file and duplicate 
file. You can also get these functions from the file menu. These will allow you 
to do the same things as save as. If, for instance, you duplicate the file, you 
can then press command-s to bring up the save dialogue to choose a file name, 
file type and file location etcetera. The original file will not be changed.

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Re: saving in text edit

2013-07-12 Thread Rahul Bajaj
Hi Jean,

When you press CMD-s, you will get a save dialogue box. When you
navigate through that dialogue box through VO-right arrow, you will
come across a save as option. You will be able to select the format in
which you wish to save the file like TXT, RTF, etc by using that
option.

On 12/07/2013, jean parker  wrote:
> All:
> Ok hopefully this has a simple answer.  When I am in text edit and I want to
> save a file I do command S.  The problem is that sometimes it saves and
> sometimes I get the save as dialogue.  How do I get the save as dialogue
> consistently?
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saving in text edit

2013-07-11 Thread jean parker
All:
Ok hopefully this has a simple answer.  When I am in text edit and I want to 
save a file I do command S.  The problem is that sometimes it saves and 
sometimes I get the save as dialogue.  How do I get the save as dialogue 
consistently?
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Re: finding deleted folder in text edit

2013-06-26 Thread Eugenia Firth
When you get to the trash by either going to the doc or doing what was 
suggested before, you can also press command delete and the file goes back to 
where came from. Unless something terrible happens to your computer, you should 
not lose a file off your Mac unless you erase the trash.
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> Just open the trash folder. Hit cmd-shift-g in Finder, type ~/trash, and hit 
> enter. Once you find the folder, simply copy and paste it back to where you 
> want it to go.
> On Jun 26, 2013, at 4:13 PM, jean parker  wrote:
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>> All:
>> 
>> I have made a terible mistake.  I accidentally deleted a folder in the 
>> finder and urgently need to get it back.  Surely there must be a way to 
>> retrieve it?
>> All help welcome!
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Re: finding deleted folder in text edit

2013-06-26 Thread Alex Hall
Just open the trash folder. Hit cmd-shift-g in Finder, type ~/trash, and hit 
enter. Once you find the folder, simply copy and paste it back to where you 
want it to go.
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> I have made a terible mistake.  I accidentally deleted a folder in the finder 
> and urgently need to get it back.  Surely there must be a way to retrieve it?
> All help welcome!
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finding deleted folder in text edit

2013-06-26 Thread jean parker
All:

I have made a terible mistake.  I accidentally deleted a folder in the finder 
and urgently need to get it back.  Surely there must be a way to retrieve it?
All help welcome!
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Re: rich text edit areas and VO?

2013-06-18 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Try Internet Explorer as well. But yes, if it doesn't work, Windows probably 
will.

Just to elaborate on the problem though, what I was finding is that when I 
would hit return/enter, I would lose VoiceOver. Once I started typing again 
though VoiceOver would come back. I could use standard formatting keystrokes 
like command-i and command-b. Sighted persons would tell me these were having 
the right effect, but VoiceOver wouldn't announce anything. Text alignment was 
a complete mess.

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Re: rich text edit areas and VO?

2013-06-17 Thread Alex Hall
You enable developer settings in preferences, then go to the developer menu and 
choose your desired browser from the "user agent" submenu. Unfortunately, it 
does not work, for this site at least - I tried both Firefox versions (Mac and 
Windows). I might have to just go to Windows to do this...
On Jun 17, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

> How is this done?
> On Jun 17, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
>> It might not just simply be an Apple problem. It might be the way the rich 
>> text areas are coded. But yes, many do seem to have problems with VoiceOver. 
>> Often the same rich text areas work fine with Windows screen readers. I'd 
>> suggest getting Safari to emulate Firefox. This makes the rich text areas 
>> display as regular text fields. So you lose any rich formatting, but it 
>> works fine with VoiceOver.
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Re: rich text edit areas and VO?

2013-06-17 Thread Christine Grassman
How is this done?
On Jun 17, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
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> text areas are coded. But yes, many do seem to have problems with VoiceOver. 
> Often the same rich text areas work fine with Windows screen readers. I'd 
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> display as regular text fields. So you lose any rich formatting, but it works 
> fine with VoiceOver.
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Re: rich text edit areas and VO?

2013-06-17 Thread Christine Grassman
I faced these the other day on a web site, which uses rich text edit areas for 
all of their posting areas. I was able to type into the edit area, but then 
when I attempted to post, VO was not behaving properly and I could not figure 
out where the post button was. Also, when I tried to get back into the text 
area, I couldn't. It was exceedingly frustrating. I gave up, and wrote to the 
moderator of the site, but I don't know what will come of it.
Christine

On Jun 17, 2013, at 4:46 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I'll try it. However, I was unable even to paste, which seems very odd. I 
> wonder if this is a browser problem or a Voiceover problem? Either way, Apple 
> needs to know about it, or at least be reminded.
> On Jun 17, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:
> 
>> Hello alex,
>> 
>> Rich edit areas are notoriously bad with VO.  The work-around I have found 
>> is to type your text in TextEdit or another word processor and then paste it 
>> into the rich text edit area after interacting with the area.  If you turn 
>> QuickNav off and arrow up and down you can see that your text is there but 
>> you are unable to move by word, character, etc.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> Harry
>> On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am trying to fill out a form, and one part is some kind of rich text edit 
>>> area. I can interact with it, but Voiceover does nothing - I cannot type, 
>>> no commands like cmd-v seem to work, nothing. Is there a trick to using 
>>> these edit controls? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: rich text edit areas and VO?

2013-06-17 Thread Nicholas Parsons
It might not just simply be an Apple problem. It might be the way the rich text 
areas are coded. But yes, many do seem to have problems with VoiceOver. Often 
the same rich text areas work fine with Windows screen readers. I'd suggest 
getting Safari to emulate Firefox. This makes the rich text areas display as 
regular text fields. So you lose any rich formatting, but it works fine with 
VoiceOver.

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Re: rich text edit areas and VO?

2013-06-17 Thread Alex Hall
I'll try it. However, I was unable even to paste, which seems very odd. I 
wonder if this is a browser problem or a Voiceover problem? Either way, Apple 
needs to know about it, or at least be reminded.
On Jun 17, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

> Hello alex,
> 
> Rich edit areas are notoriously bad with VO.  The work-around I have found is 
> to type your text in TextEdit or another word processor and then paste it 
> into the rich text edit area after interacting with the area.  If you turn 
> QuickNav off and arrow up and down you can see that your text is there but 
> you are unable to move by word, character, etc.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Harry
> On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I am trying to fill out a form, and one part is some kind of rich text edit 
>> area. I can interact with it, but Voiceover does nothing - I cannot type, no 
>> commands like cmd-v seem to work, nothing. Is there a trick to using these 
>> edit controls? Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: rich text edit areas and VO?

2013-06-17 Thread Harry Hogue
Hello alex,

Rich edit areas are notoriously bad with VO.  The work-around I have found is 
to type your text in TextEdit or another word processor and then paste it into 
the rich text edit area after interacting with the area.  If you turn QuickNav 
off and arrow up and down you can see that your text is there but you are 
unable to move by word, character, etc.

HTH,

Harry
On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I am trying to fill out a form, and one part is some kind of rich text edit 
> area. I can interact with it, but Voiceover does nothing - I cannot type, no 
> commands like cmd-v seem to work, nothing. Is there a trick to using these 
> edit controls? Thanks.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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rich text edit areas and VO?

2013-06-17 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I am trying to fill out a form, and one part is some kind of rich text edit 
area. I can interact with it, but Voiceover does nothing - I cannot type, no 
commands like cmd-v seem to work, nothing. Is there a trick to using these edit 
controls? Thanks.


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Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-05 Thread Eugenia Firth
Sorry for the confusion, but I was talking about the days I was using Windows 
with MS Word. I have found that one has to be careful about text that touches 
whatever you are trying to affect with alignments or fonts. I used to get text 
all the time when I was using Windows that would have attributes in it I didn't 
know about. When the things, I added other attributes in because what I put in 
touched text that had those attributes. 

I have found this to be true in TextEdit as well, and I guess it's a 
characteristic these days of word processor programs. I hope what I am saying 
this time makes sense. 

Regards,
Gigi
 


On Jun 5, 2013, at 5:18 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:

> MS Word?  Wait a minute!  Since when has that been accessible on the mac?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Eugenia Firth" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: aligning text in Text Edit?
> 
> 
> Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, 
> italics, bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm not 
> sure this is necessary, but I select that space and put it back into plain 
> mode or whatever the next thing is I want to be in. I had this trouble with 
> MS Word as well, and ever since I started doing this, I have not had trouble 
> changing my text.
> 
> Gigi
> 
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text Edit. I 
>> also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The problem is that, 
>> after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center anything else. That is, 
>> even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says "align left checked", hitting 
>> vo-t on text that should not be centered reports it as centered. It seems as 
>> though the whole file is stuck in this "align center" mode and I can't work 
>> out how to un-center parts of it. Any ideas? Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-05 Thread Alex Hall
Well, it's working now. I put the mac to sleep last night, and tried again this 
morning, and all is as it should be. Go figure! I also discovered the 
incredibly useful, of verbose, "speak text changes" option in the verbosity 
settings, which let me just read my document and hear all my style and 
alignment changes. Very handy!
On Jun 5, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi Alex 
> I did some experimentation this morning with TextEdit. Since I do a lot of 
> work with TextEdit for my business, I would be concerned if a bug like this 
> happened. I am not having the same problems you are having with your file. I 
> tried it with the keyboard and with the menu, and mine worked perfectly. 
> Therefore, and I have had to do this after an update occurred, maybe you 
> might want to shut your computer down and restart it again. I have had some 
> weird things happen after an update. I know this sounds weird, but even 
> though my computer restarts after the update automatically, I almost always 
> have to do it again. Usually, the problems I have had after a major update 
> like this one have had to do with Finder, but I suppose anything could be 
> effected. It can't hurt.
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks everyone. The file is plaintext for now, but I'll save it as RTF or 
>> doc since it will have to work on Windows machines. Since the text aligns to 
>> the center, I know it is not my text type, or at least I don't think it is. 
>> I'll try a single line at a time, and no, I'm not trying to put multiple 
>> allignments on one line. I have my header (company name, date, title) 
>> centered, then I have a list of information I want on the left, then a 
>> series of paragraphs I want on the left, each of which has a centered title. 
>> I'll grab someone to visually inspect the file, I was just hoping to not 
>> have to do that; the Mac is usually so accessible, I hate to ask for help 
>> using it.  Oh, and yes, I am interacting with the text.
>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:
>> 
>>> Also, I forgot to ask, and this may sound like a stupid question, but are 
>>> you trying to edit plain text or rich text?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Gavin Grundlingh
>>> Primary Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
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>>> Skype: Batworx
>>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/gavin.grundlingh
>>> Twitter: @Batworx
>>> 
>>> On 05 Jun 2013, at 12:23 PM, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there,
>>> 
>>> I've been playing with this for about a half hour now, and I've only 
>>> managed to successfully get the alignment to read out correctly if I change 
>>> it on single lines or paragraphs at a time. Using multiple alignments on 
>>> one line doesn't seem to work. Weather you can do this visually, I'm not 
>>> sure, but VoiceOver doesn't seem to pick them up if I do it that way. I 
>>> also experimented with font size, style and colour changes, and VoiceOver 
>>> read those out correctly.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Gavin Grundlingh
>>> Primary Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
>>> Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
>>> Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792
>>> Primary Email: g.batw...@gmail.com
>>> Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za
>>> Skype: Batworx
>>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/gavin.grundlingh
>>> Twitter: @Batworx
>>> 
>>> On 05 Jun 2013, at 12:18 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> MS Word?  Wait a minute!  Since when has that been accessible on the mac?
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Eugenia Firth" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:18 PM
>>> Subject: Re: aligning text in Text Edit?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, 
>>> italics, bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm not 
>>> sure this is necessary, but I select that space and put it back into plain 
>>> mode or whatever the next thing is I want to be in. I had this trouble with 
>>> MS Word as well, and ever since I started doing this, I have not had 
>>> trouble changing my text.
>>> 
>>> Gigi
>>> 

Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-05 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Alex 
I did some experimentation this morning with TextEdit. Since I do a lot of work 
with TextEdit for my business, I would be concerned if a bug like this 
happened. I am not having the same problems you are having with your file. I 
tried it with the keyboard and with the menu, and mine worked perfectly. 
Therefore, and I have had to do this after an update occurred, maybe you might 
want to shut your computer down and restart it again. I have had some weird 
things happen after an update. I know this sounds weird, but even though my 
computer restarts after the update automatically, I almost always have to do it 
again. Usually, the problems I have had after a major update like this one have 
had to do with Finder, but I suppose anything could be effected. It can't hurt.

Regards,
Gigi

On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Thanks everyone. The file is plaintext for now, but I'll save it as RTF or 
> doc since it will have to work on Windows machines. Since the text aligns to 
> the center, I know it is not my text type, or at least I don't think it is. 
> I'll try a single line at a time, and no, I'm not trying to put multiple 
> allignments on one line. I have my header (company name, date, title) 
> centered, then I have a list of information I want on the left, then a series 
> of paragraphs I want on the left, each of which has a centered title. I'll 
> grab someone to visually inspect the file, I was just hoping to not have to 
> do that; the Mac is usually so accessible, I hate to ask for help using it. 
>  Oh, and yes, I am interacting with the text.
> On Jun 5, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:
> 
>> Also, I forgot to ask, and this may sound like a stupid question, but are 
>> you trying to edit plain text or rich text?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Gavin Grundlingh
>> Primary Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
>> Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
>> Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792
>> Primary Email: g.batw...@gmail.com
>> Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za
>> Skype: Batworx
>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/gavin.grundlingh
>> Twitter: @Batworx
>> 
>> On 05 Jun 2013, at 12:23 PM, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there,
>> 
>> I've been playing with this for about a half hour now, and I've only managed 
>> to successfully get the alignment to read out correctly if I change it on 
>> single lines or paragraphs at a time. Using multiple alignments on one line 
>> doesn't seem to work. Weather you can do this visually, I'm not sure, but 
>> VoiceOver doesn't seem to pick them up if I do it that way. I also 
>> experimented with font size, style and colour changes, and VoiceOver read 
>> those out correctly.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Gavin Grundlingh
>> Primary Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
>> Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
>> Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792
>> Primary Email: g.batw...@gmail.com
>> Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za
>> Skype: Batworx
>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/gavin.grundlingh
>> Twitter: @Batworx
>> 
>> On 05 Jun 2013, at 12:18 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:
>> 
>> MS Word?  Wait a minute!  Since when has that been accessible on the mac?
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Eugenia Firth" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: aligning text in Text Edit?
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, 
>> italics, bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm not 
>> sure this is necessary, but I select that space and put it back into plain 
>> mode or whatever the next thing is I want to be in. I had this trouble with 
>> MS Word as well, and ever since I started doing this, I have not had trouble 
>> changing my text.
>> 
>> Gigi
>> 
>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text Edit. 
>>> I also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The problem is 
>>> that, after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center anything else. 
>>> That is, even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says "align left checked", 
>>> hitting vo-t on text that should not be centered reports it as centered. It 
>>> seems as though the whole file is stuck in this "align center" mode and I 
>>> can't work out how to un-center parts of it. Any ideas? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 

Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-05 Thread Alex Hall
Thanks everyone. The file is plaintext for now, but I'll save it as RTF or doc 
since it will have to work on Windows machines. Since the text aligns to the 
center, I know it is not my text type, or at least I don't think it is. I'll 
try a single line at a time, and no, I'm not trying to put multiple allignments 
on one line. I have my header (company name, date, title) centered, then I have 
a list of information I want on the left, then a series of paragraphs I want on 
the left, each of which has a centered title. I'll grab someone to visually 
inspect the file, I was just hoping to not have to do that; the Mac is usually 
so accessible, I hate to ask for help using it.  Oh, and yes, I am 
interacting with the text.
On Jun 5, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:

> Also, I forgot to ask, and this may sound like a stupid question, but are you 
> trying to edit plain text or rich text?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gavin Grundlingh
> Primary Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
> Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
> Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792
> Primary Email: g.batw...@gmail.com
> Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za
> Skype: Batworx
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/gavin.grundlingh
> Twitter: @Batworx
> 
> On 05 Jun 2013, at 12:23 PM, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I've been playing with this for about a half hour now, and I've only managed 
> to successfully get the alignment to read out correctly if I change it on 
> single lines or paragraphs at a time. Using multiple alignments on one line 
> doesn't seem to work. Weather you can do this visually, I'm not sure, but 
> VoiceOver doesn't seem to pick them up if I do it that way. I also 
> experimented with font size, style and colour changes, and VoiceOver read 
> those out correctly.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gavin Grundlingh
> Primary Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
> Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
> Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792
> Primary Email: g.batw...@gmail.com
> Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za
> Skype: Batworx
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/gavin.grundlingh
> Twitter: @Batworx
> 
> On 05 Jun 2013, at 12:18 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:
> 
> MS Word?  Wait a minute!  Since when has that been accessible on the mac?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Eugenia Firth" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: aligning text in Text Edit?
> 
> 
> Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, 
> italics, bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm not 
> sure this is necessary, but I select that space and put it back into plain 
> mode or whatever the next thing is I want to be in. I had this trouble with 
> MS Word as well, and ever since I started doing this, I have not had trouble 
> changing my text.
> 
> Gigi
> 
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text Edit. I 
>> also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The problem is that, 
>> after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center anything else. That is, 
>> even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says "align left checked", hitting 
>> vo-t on text that should not be centered reports it as centered. It seems as 
>> though the whole file is stuck in this "align center" mode and I can't work 
>> out how to un-center parts of it. Any ideas? Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-05 Thread Gavin Grundlingh
Also, I forgot to ask, and this may sound like a stupid question, but are you 
trying to edit plain text or rich text?

Regards,

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On 05 Jun 2013, at 12:23 PM, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:

Hi there,

I've been playing with this for about a half hour now, and I've only managed to 
successfully get the alignment to read out correctly if I change it on single 
lines or paragraphs at a time. Using multiple alignments on one line doesn't 
seem to work. Weather you can do this visually, I'm not sure, but VoiceOver 
doesn't seem to pick them up if I do it that way. I also experimented with font 
size, style and colour changes, and VoiceOver read those out correctly.

Regards,

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On 05 Jun 2013, at 12:18 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

MS Word?  Wait a minute!  Since when has that been accessible on the mac?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Eugenia Firth" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: aligning text in Text Edit?


Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, italics, 
bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm not sure this is 
necessary, but I select that space and put it back into plain mode or whatever 
the next thing is I want to be in. I had this trouble with MS Word as well, and 
ever since I started doing this, I have not had trouble changing my text.

Gigi

On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text Edit. I 
> also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The problem is that, 
> after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center anything else. That is, 
> even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says "align left checked", hitting 
> vo-t on text that should not be centered reports it as centered. It seems as 
> though the whole file is stuck in this "align center" mode and I can't work 
> out how to un-center parts of it. Any ideas? Thanks.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-05 Thread Gavin Grundlingh
Hi there,

I've been playing with this for about a half hour now, and I've only managed to 
successfully get the alignment to read out correctly if I change it on single 
lines or paragraphs at a time. Using multiple alignments on one line doesn't 
seem to work. Weather you can do this visually, I'm not sure, but VoiceOver 
doesn't seem to pick them up if I do it that way. I also experimented with font 
size, style and colour changes, and VoiceOver read those out correctly.

Regards,

Gavin Grundlingh
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Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792
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Skype: Batworx
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On 05 Jun 2013, at 12:18 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

MS Word?  Wait a minute!  Since when has that been accessible on the mac?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Eugenia Firth" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: aligning text in Text Edit?


Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, italics, 
bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm not sure this is 
necessary, but I select that space and put it back into plain mode or whatever 
the next thing is I want to be in. I had this trouble with MS Word as well, and 
ever since I started doing this, I have not had trouble changing my text.

Gigi

On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text Edit. I 
> also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The problem is that, 
> after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center anything else. That is, 
> even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says "align left checked", hitting 
> vo-t on text that should not be centered reports it as centered. It seems as 
> though the whole file is stuck in this "align center" mode and I can't work 
> out how to un-center parts of it. Any ideas? Thanks.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Gilland
OK, wait a second.  Do you have a pare of eyeballs who can look and confirm 
yay or nay?


What if you go to the aligned text and do vo+T?  Or did I miss you saying 
you'd tried that already.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Hall" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: aligning text in Text Edit?


Well, this is just weird. I went to the menu as you suggested, and "align 
left" is checked! Voiceover insists that the text is aligned to the center 
when I press vo-t, however, I'm not sure whom to believe here... Very odd.

On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

Instead of using the commands on the keyboard, maybe it would work if you 
tried using the menu instead. I know that sounds weird, but maybe that 
will work.

Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion, but it does not work for me. I also tried 
highlighting the text to be aligned left, but that did not help either. 
This is very odd.

On Jun 4, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, 
italics, bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm 
not sure this is necessary, but I select that space and put it back into 
plain mode or whatever the next thing is I want to be in. I had this 
trouble with MS Word as well, and ever since I started doing this, I 
have not had trouble changing my text.


Gigi

On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:


Hi all,
I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text 
Edit. I also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The 
problem is that, after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center 
anything else. That is, even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says 
"align left checked", hitting vo-t on text that should not be centered 
reports it as centered. It seems as though the whole file is stuck in 
this "align center" mode and I can't work out how to un-center parts of 
it. Any ideas? Thanks.



Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Gilland

I doubt it, but it's worth a shot.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Eugenia Firth" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: aligning text in Text Edit?


Instead of using the commands on the keyboard, maybe it would work if you 
tried using the menu instead. I know that sounds weird, but maybe that will 
work.

Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion, but it does not work for me. I also tried 
highlighting the text to be aligned left, but that did not help either. 
This is very odd.

On Jun 4, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, 
italics, bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm 
not sure this is necessary, but I select that space and put it back into 
plain mode or whatever the next thing is I want to be in. I had this 
trouble with MS Word as well, and ever since I started doing this, I have 
not had trouble changing my text.


Gigi

On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:


Hi all,
I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text 
Edit. I also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The 
problem is that, after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center 
anything else. That is, even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says 
"align left checked", hitting vo-t on text that should not be centered 
reports it as centered. It seems as though the whole file is stuck in 
this "align center" mode and I can't work out how to un-center parts of 
it. Any ideas? Thanks.



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Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Gilland
K, that answers my question then.  So, you did try my suggestion.  wow, I 
have no clue then!  That is! really weird.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Hall" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: aligning text in Text Edit?


Thanks for the suggestion, but it does not work for me. I also tried 
highlighting the text to be aligned left, but that did not help either. This 
is very odd.

On Jun 4, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, 
italics, bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm 
not sure this is necessary, but I select that space and put it back into 
plain mode or whatever the next thing is I want to be in. I had this 
trouble with MS Word as well, and ever since I started doing this, I have 
not had trouble changing my text.


Gigi

On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:


Hi all,
I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text 
Edit. I also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The 
problem is that, after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center 
anything else. That is, even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says 
"align left checked", hitting vo-t on text that should not be centered 
reports it as centered. It seems as though the whole file is stuck in 
this "align center" mode and I can't work out how to un-center parts of 
it. Any ideas? Thanks.



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Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Gilland

MS Word?  Wait a minute!  Since when has that been accessible on the mac?

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Eugenia Firth" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: aligning text in Text Edit?


Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, 
italics, bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm not 
sure this is necessary, but I select that space and put it back into plain 
mode or whatever the next thing is I want to be in. I had this trouble with 
MS Word as well, and ever since I started doing this, I have not had trouble 
changing my text.


Gigi

On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:


Hi all,
I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text Edit. 
I also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The problem is 
that, after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center anything else. 
That is, even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says "align left checked", 
hitting vo-t on text that should not be centered reports it as centered. 
It seems as though the whole file is stuck in this "align center" mode and 
I can't work out how to un-center parts of it. Any ideas? Thanks.



Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Gilland
OK, what if you select the parts of the text you want to get back to left 
aligned, then! do your command left bracket?  I suppose you already tried 
that?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Hall" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:11 PM
Subject: aligning text in Text Edit?


Hi all,
I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text Edit. I 
also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The problem is that, 
after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center anything else. That is, 
even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says "align left checked", hitting 
vo-t on text that should not be centered reports it as centered. It seems as 
though the whole file is stuck in this "align center" mode and I can't work 
out how to un-center parts of it. Any ideas? Thanks.



Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-04 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hi Alex,
to get a correct result using VO + t be sure you are interacted with the text 
and your cursor is on the text.
Jürgen
Am 05.06.2013 um 04:26 schrieb Randy George :

> Do you have any sighted  friends? Command  three I believe it is will take a 
> screenshot. Paste that into an email and see what they have to say.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Well, this is just weird. I went to the menu as you suggested, and "align 
>> left" is checked! Voiceover insists that the text is aligned to the center 
>> when I press vo-t, however, I'm not sure whom to believe here... Very odd.
>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Instead of using the commands on the keyboard, maybe it would work if you 
>>> tried using the menu instead. I know that sounds weird, but maybe that will 
>>> work.
>>> Gigi
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the suggestion, but it does not work for me. I also tried 
>>>> highlighting the text to be aligned left, but that did not help either. 
>>>> This is very odd.
>>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, 
>>>>> italics, bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm 
>>>>> not sure this is necessary, but I select that space and put it back into 
>>>>> plain mode or whatever the next thing is I want to be in. I had this 
>>>>> trouble with MS Word as well, and ever since I started doing this, I have 
>>>>> not had trouble changing my text. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gigi 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text 
>>>>>> Edit. I also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The 
>>>>>> problem is that, after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center 
>>>>>> anything else. That is, even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says 
>>>>>> "align left checked", hitting vo-t on text that should not be centered 
>>>>>> reports it as centered. It seems as though the whole file is stuck in 
>>>>>> this "align center" mode and I can't work out how to un-center parts of 
>>>>>> it. Any ideas? Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have a great day,
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Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-04 Thread Randy George
Do you have any sighted  friends? Command  three I believe it is will take a 
screenshot. Paste that into an email and see what they have to say.  

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Well, this is just weird. I went to the menu as you suggested, and "align 
> left" is checked! Voiceover insists that the text is aligned to the center 
> when I press vo-t, however, I'm not sure whom to believe here... Very odd.
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Instead of using the commands on the keyboard, maybe it would work if you 
>> tried using the menu instead. I know that sounds weird, but maybe that will 
>> work.
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for the suggestion, but it does not work for me. I also tried 
>>> highlighting the text to be aligned left, but that did not help either. 
>>> This is very odd.
>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, 
>>>> italics, bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm 
>>>> not sure this is necessary, but I select that space and put it back into 
>>>> plain mode or whatever the next thing is I want to be in. I had this 
>>>> trouble with MS Word as well, and ever since I started doing this, I have 
>>>> not had trouble changing my text. 
>>>> 
>>>> Gigi 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text 
>>>>> Edit. I also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The 
>>>>> problem is that, after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center 
>>>>> anything else. That is, even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says 
>>>>> "align left checked", hitting vo-t on text that should not be centered 
>>>>> reports it as centered. It seems as though the whole file is stuck in 
>>>>> this "align center" mode and I can't work out how to un-center parts of 
>>>>> it. Any ideas? Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-04 Thread Alex Hall
Well, this is just weird. I went to the menu as you suggested, and "align left" 
is checked! Voiceover insists that the text is aligned to the center when I 
press vo-t, however, I'm not sure whom to believe here... Very odd.
On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Instead of using the commands on the keyboard, maybe it would work if you 
> tried using the menu instead. I know that sounds weird, but maybe that will 
> work.
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the suggestion, but it does not work for me. I also tried 
>> highlighting the text to be aligned left, but that did not help either. This 
>> is very odd.
>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, 
>>> italics, bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm not 
>>> sure this is necessary, but I select that space and put it back into plain 
>>> mode or whatever the next thing is I want to be in. I had this trouble with 
>>> MS Word as well, and ever since I started doing this, I have not had 
>>> trouble changing my text. 
>>> 
>>> Gigi 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text Edit. 
>>>> I also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The problem is 
>>>> that, after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center anything else. 
>>>> That is, even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says "align left checked", 
>>>> hitting vo-t on text that should not be centered reports it as centered. 
>>>> It seems as though the whole file is stuck in this "align center" mode and 
>>>> I can't work out how to un-center parts of it. Any ideas? Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Have a great day,
>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-04 Thread Eugenia Firth
Instead of using the commands on the keyboard, maybe it would work if you tried 
using the menu instead. I know that sounds weird, but maybe that will work.
Gigi

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On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestion, but it does not work for me. I also tried 
> highlighting the text to be aligned left, but that did not help either. This 
> is very odd.
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, 
>> italics, bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm not 
>> sure this is necessary, but I select that space and put it back into plain 
>> mode or whatever the next thing is I want to be in. I had this trouble with 
>> MS Word as well, and ever since I started doing this, I have not had trouble 
>> changing my text. 
>> 
>> Gigi 
>> 
>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text Edit. 
>>> I also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The problem is 
>>> that, after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center anything else. 
>>> That is, even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says "align left checked", 
>>> hitting vo-t on text that should not be centered reports it as centered. It 
>>> seems as though the whole file is stuck in this "align center" mode and I 
>>> can't work out how to un-center parts of it. Any ideas? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-04 Thread Alex Hall
Thanks for the suggestion, but it does not work for me. I also tried 
highlighting the text to be aligned left, but that did not help either. This is 
very odd.
On Jun 4, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, 
> italics, bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm not 
> sure this is necessary, but I select that space and put it back into plain 
> mode or whatever the next thing is I want to be in. I had this trouble with 
> MS Word as well, and ever since I started doing this, I have not had trouble 
> changing my text. 
> 
> Gigi 
> 
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text Edit. I 
>> also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The problem is that, 
>> after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center anything else. That is, 
>> even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says "align left checked", hitting 
>> vo-t on text that should not be centered reports it as centered. It seems as 
>> though the whole file is stuck in this "align center" mode and I can't work 
>> out how to un-center parts of it. Any ideas? Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-04 Thread Eugenia Firth
Yes, I think I have an idea here. Whenever I want to change centering, italics, 
bold, etc., I put a space after the text I am emphasizing. I'm not sure this is 
necessary, but I select that space and put it back into plain mode or whatever 
the next thing is I want to be in. I had this trouble with MS Word as well, and 
ever since I started doing this, I have not had trouble changing my text. 

Gigi 

On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text Edit. I 
> also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The problem is that, 
> after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center anything else. That is, 
> even after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says "align left checked", hitting 
> vo-t on text that should not be centered reports it as centered. It seems as 
> though the whole file is stuck in this "align center" mode and I can't work 
> out how to un-center parts of it. Any ideas? Thanks.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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aligning text in Text Edit?

2013-06-04 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I'm writing a template to use for client reports, and I'm using Text Edit. I 
also have iText Express, but I have not yet tried that. The problem is that, 
after I center my title, I can't seem to un-center anything else. That is, even 
after I hit cmd-left brace and vo says "align left checked", hitting vo-t on 
text that should not be centered reports it as centered. It seems as though the 
whole file is stuck in this "align center" mode and I can't work out how to 
un-center parts of it. Any ideas? Thanks.


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Re: text edit and braille

2013-03-18 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there again
You're welcome, and if you have more trouble let us know. You may have to if 
you have not already, let TextEdit the program for BRF files. That works, like 
it doesn't windows, so you shouldn't have trouble that.
Regards,
Gigi

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On Mar 18, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> Hi, there:
> 
> Thanks so much for this instruction and the delete key warning.
> On 2013-03-18, at 1:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi there
>> To make a transformat in  TextEdit first select all your text with command 
>> a. At this point, make sure you don't press the delete key. If you do 
>> accidentally however, press command Z in a big hurry. Then press the VO keys 
>> which are control option together with the Letter min menu. Go with the 
>> right arrow to edit and go down arrow until you hear transformations 
>> submenu. Press the right arrow key and you want to go down arrow until you 
>> hear make lowercase press the return key. You will be taking back to your 
>> file so press the upper down arrow key here something to make sure that you 
>> an highlight things. This will look strange decided people, but it works 
>> okay for braille files.
>> Regards,
>> GG
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 17, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Kerri  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, there. 
>>> 
>>> How does one perform a transformation in Text Edit so dots 7 and 8 are not 
>>> shown? I want to read online Braille books which are in .brf format.
>>> /
>>> On 2013-03-17, at 1:23 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi there
>>>> Another difference I have noticed, is the displaying of BRF files on the 
>>>> Mac compared to those on windows with Jaws.  If you load in a BRF file 
>>>> from web braille, unless you want to see   Dots seven and eight all the 
>>>> time, the first thing you have to do in TextEdit is a transformation from 
>>>> lowercase. In Jaws, you can turn dots 7 and eight off and just see your 
>>>> BRF files the way you normally would without showing the upper case all 
>>>> the time.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Gigi Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 17, 2013, at 5:33 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Actually, the cursor can be visible. You have to enable an option along 
>>>>> the lines of "show selected text with dots 7 and 8" and your cursor will 
>>>>> appear. Unfortunately, a bunch of text will start being shown with dots 7 
>>>>> and 8 below it, which gets old fast. So I guess it's a bit of a 
>>>>> trade-off, but there is a way to show a cursor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 16:54, Kerri  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, I think the biggest difference is the cursor is not visible in mac 
>>>>>> osx. This took a lot of getting used too. Correct me if I'm wrong but I 
>>>>>> haven't found rapid reading as I did with Jaws but it's not a feature I 
>>>>>> used often.
>>>>>> On 2013-03-16, at 10:19 AM, Brandt  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi there folks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Being that I have used Braille displays with jaws for the last 10 years 
>>>>>>> or so, I would say that I am familiar with the way JFW presents 
>>>>>>> braille. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For those of you who use braille with voiceover, is there any 
>>>>>>> significant differences? If so, please highlight.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks so long.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my macbook pro
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Contact me:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My ring to Skype:
>>>>>>> California, United States
>>>>>>>   +(1)760-5140161  
>>>>>>> Extension 512
>>>>>>> Cape Town, South Africa
>>>>>>>+(

Re: text edit and braille

2013-03-18 Thread Kerri
Hi, there:

Thanks so much for this instruction and the delete key warning.
On 2013-03-18, at 1:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi there
> To make a transformat in  TextEdit first select all your text with command a. 
> At this point, make sure you don't press the delete key. If you do 
> accidentally however, press command Z in a big hurry. Then press the VO keys 
> which are control option together with the Letter min menu. Go with the right 
> arrow to edit and go down arrow until you hear transformations submenu. Press 
> the right arrow key and you want to go down arrow until you hear make 
> lowercase press the return key. You will be taking back to your file so press 
> the upper down arrow key here something to make sure that you an highlight 
> things. This will look strange decided people, but it works okay for braille 
> files.
> Regards,
> GG
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 17, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> Hello, there. 
>> 
>> How does one perform a transformation in Text Edit so dots 7 and 8 are not 
>> shown? I want to read online Braille books which are in .brf format.
>> /
>> On 2013-03-17, at 1:23 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> Another difference I have noticed, is the displaying of BRF files on the 
>>> Mac compared to those on windows with Jaws.  If you load in a BRF file from 
>>> web braille, unless you want to see   Dots seven and eight all the time, 
>>> the first thing you have to do in TextEdit is a transformation from 
>>> lowercase. In Jaws, you can turn dots 7 and eight off and just see your BRF 
>>> files the way you normally would without showing the upper case all the 
>>> time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 17, 2013, at 5:33 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Actually, the cursor can be visible. You have to enable an option along 
>>>> the lines of "show selected text with dots 7 and 8" and your cursor will 
>>>> appear. Unfortunately, a bunch of text will start being shown with dots 7 
>>>> and 8 below it, which gets old fast. So I guess it's a bit of a trade-off, 
>>>> but there is a way to show a cursor.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 16:54, Kerri  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, I think the biggest difference is the cursor is not visible in mac 
>>>>> osx. This took a lot of getting used too. Correct me if I'm wrong but I 
>>>>> haven't found rapid reading as I did with Jaws but it's not a feature I 
>>>>> used often.
>>>>> On 2013-03-16, at 10:19 AM, Brandt  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi there folks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Being that I have used Braille displays with jaws for the last 10 years 
>>>>>> or so, I would say that I am familiar with the way JFW presents braille. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For those of you who use braille with voiceover, is there any 
>>>>>> significant differences? If so, please highlight.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks so long.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my macbook pro
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Contact me:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013
>>>>>> 
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Re: text edit and braille

2013-03-18 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there
To make a transformat in  TextEdit first select all your text with command a. 
At this point, make sure you don't press the delete key. If you do accidentally 
however, press command Z in a big hurry. Then press the VO keys which are 
control option together with the Letter min menu. Go with the right arrow to 
edit and go down arrow until you hear transformations submenu. Press the right 
arrow key and you want to go down arrow until you hear make lowercase press the 
return key. You will be taking back to your file so press the upper down arrow 
key here something to make sure that you an highlight things. This will look 
strange decided people, but it works okay for braille files.
Regards,
GG

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 17, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> Hello, there. 
> 
> How does one perform a transformation in Text Edit so dots 7 and 8 are not 
> shown? I want to read online Braille books which are in .brf format.
> /
> On 2013-03-17, at 1:23 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi there
>> Another difference I have noticed, is the displaying of BRF files on the Mac 
>> compared to those on windows with Jaws.  If you load in a BRF file from web 
>> braille, unless you want to see   Dots seven and eight all the time, the 
>> first thing you have to do in TextEdit is a transformation from lowercase. 
>> In Jaws, you can turn dots 7 and eight off and just see your BRF files the 
>> way you normally would without showing the upper case all the time.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Gigi Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 17, 2013, at 5:33 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually, the cursor can be visible. You have to enable an option along the 
>>> lines of "show selected text with dots 7 and 8" and your cursor will 
>>> appear. Unfortunately, a bunch of text will start being shown with dots 7 
>>> and 8 below it, which gets old fast. So I guess it's a bit of a trade-off, 
>>> but there is a way to show a cursor.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 16:54, Kerri  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, I think the biggest difference is the cursor is not visible in mac 
>>>> osx. This took a lot of getting used too. Correct me if I'm wrong but I 
>>>> haven't found rapid reading as I did with Jaws but it's not a feature I 
>>>> used often.
>>>> On 2013-03-16, at 10:19 AM, Brandt  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi there folks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Being that I have used Braille displays with jaws for the last 10 years 
>>>>> or so, I would say that I am familiar with the way JFW presents braille. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> For those of you who use braille with voiceover, is there any significant 
>>>>> differences? If so, please highlight.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks so long.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my macbook pro
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text edit and braille

2013-03-17 Thread Kerri
Hello, there. 

How does one perform a transformation in Text Edit so dots 7 and 8 are not 
shown? I want to read online Braille books which are in .brf format.
/
On 2013-03-17, at 1:23 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi there
> Another difference I have noticed, is the displaying of BRF files on the Mac 
> compared to those on windows with Jaws.  If you load in a BRF file from web 
> braille, unless you want to see   Dots seven and eight all the time, the 
> first thing you have to do in TextEdit is a transformation from lowercase. In 
> Jaws, you can turn dots 7 and eight off and just see your BRF files the way 
> you normally would without showing the upper case all the time.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 17, 2013, at 5:33 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Actually, the cursor can be visible. You have to enable an option along the 
>> lines of "show selected text with dots 7 and 8" and your cursor will appear. 
>> Unfortunately, a bunch of text will start being shown with dots 7 and 8 
>> below it, which gets old fast. So I guess it's a bit of a trade-off, but 
>> there is a way to show a cursor.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 16:54, Kerri  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, I think the biggest difference is the cursor is not visible in mac osx. 
>>> This took a lot of getting used too. Correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't 
>>> found rapid reading as I did with Jaws but it's not a feature I used often.
>>> On 2013-03-16, at 10:19 AM, Brandt  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi there folks,
>>>> 
>>>> Being that I have used Braille displays with jaws for the last 10 years or 
>>>> so, I would say that I am familiar with the way JFW presents braille. 
>>>> 
>>>> For those of you who use braille with voiceover, is there any significant 
>>>> differences? If so, please highlight.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks so long.
>>>> 
>>>> Warm regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my macbook pro
>>>> 
>>>> Contact me:
>>>> 
>>>> Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013
>>>> 
>>>> Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> My ring to Skype:
>>>> California, United States
>>>>   +(1)760-5140161  
>>>> Extension 512
>>>> Cape Town, South Africa
>>>>+(27)213-002317  
>>>> Extension 161
>>>> Johannesburg, South Africa
>>>> +(27)105-002316
>>>> Extension 170
>>>> 
>>>> Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007
>>>> 
>>>> SIP: 5500...@spokn.com
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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Re: changing document extensions in text edit

2013-02-13 Thread Harry Hogue
Hello,

What you are seeing is the option to save to a .docx format, I think.  
Interestingly, Pages gives you the option of saving in .doc format, while 
TextEdit gives you the option to save as .docx, but you cannot save as both in 
either program, as far as I know.  The .doc is the older file extension, and 
the .docx is the more current file extension, but they are both MS Word formats.

Thanks,

Harry

On Feb 7, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Randy George  wrote:

> Thank you so much for the information. I am a bit perplexed by this, because 
> like I said, when I create a new file, I am able to save it as a word 
> document extension. 
> 
> I appreciate the tips though.
> Thanks,
> Randy
> On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi there
>> Changing an extension is actually very easy, if that's all you want to do. 
>> You can do that in finder by pressing enter on the filename going to the end 
>> of the line taking out the current extension, and then changing it. After 
>> you change it, press enter and then you will be asked if you really want to 
>> do that press the L right arrow, and then theon the choice you want.
>> 
>> However, if you really want to make a doc file from an RTF file so that word 
>> is happy with the file, you can't do that from text edit. You would need to 
>> have Pages to do that.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Gigi Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Everyone, 
>>> 
>>> Can anyone tell me how to change the extension of a file from (for example) 
>>> a RTF to a .DOC file?  I don't want to change the document at all, just 
>>> resave it as a different format.  I see where I can change the file name, 
>>> but I don't see any way to change the extension. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much, 
>>> Randy 
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Re: changing document extensions in text edit

2013-02-07 Thread Randy George
correct, but you are only able to do that with a newly created file, not one 
that has been saved previously. 

Randy 
On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Michael Babcock  wrote:

> this isn't true, you can save in a .doc format, in the save as dialog, the 
> third or so from the last option will state:
> "Rich Text Format (RTF) document File Format:"
> or something like this. you can save in .docx (word 2007), .doc (word 97), 
> etc.
> On Feb 7, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Sorry for my mistake. I just went into TextEdit, and noticed this. It turns 
>> out that this is a little weird, and I had never noticed this in TextEdit. 
>> If you call up an existing rtf file, then you don't get an option to change 
>> it once you have saved it out as an rtf file. However, if you press command 
>> n to start a new file, and you have never saved it out before, then you get 
>> a chance to save in Word formats of different kinds. So, if you have already 
>> saved out your file,. then you can select all your text, make a new file, 
>> and then save it out in whatever Word format you want. I know this is a work 
>> around, but it should work. 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you so much for the information. I am a bit perplexed by this, 
>>> because like I said, when I create a new file, I am able to save it as a 
>>> word document extension. 
>>> 
>>> I appreciate the tips though.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Randy
>>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi there
>>>> Changing an extension is actually very easy, if that's all you want to do. 
>>>> You can do that in finder by pressing enter on the filename going to the 
>>>> end of the line taking out the current extension, and then changing it. 
>>>> After you change it, press enter and then you will be asked if you really 
>>>> want to do that press the L right arrow, and then theon the choice you 
>>>> want.
>>>> 
>>>> However, if you really want to make a doc file from an RTF file so that 
>>>> word is happy with the file, you can't do that from text edit. You would 
>>>> need to have Pages to do that.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Gigi Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Everyone, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can anyone tell me how to change the extension of a file from (for 
>>>>> example) a RTF to a .DOC file?  I don't want to change the document at 
>>>>> all, just resave it as a different format.  I see where I can change the 
>>>>> file name, but I don't see any way to change the extension. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks so much, 
>>>>> Randy 
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Re: changing document extensions in text edit

2013-02-07 Thread Randy George
Yes, that's what I've been doing thus far.  I guess as a new-to-mac user I kind 
of fished around a bit and saw the different extensions. 

Thanks so much again for your support. 

Randy
On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Sorry for my mistake. I just went into TextEdit, and noticed this. It turns 
> out that this is a little weird, and I had never noticed this in TextEdit. If 
> you call up an existing rtf file, then you don't get an option to change it 
> once you have saved it out as an rtf file. However, if you press command n to 
> start a new file, and you have never saved it out before, then you get a 
> chance to save in Word formats of different kinds. So, if you have already 
> saved out your file,. then you can select all your text, make a new file, and 
> then save it out in whatever Word format you want. I know this is a work 
> around, but it should work. 
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Thank you so much for the information. I am a bit perplexed by this, because 
>> like I said, when I create a new file, I am able to save it as a word 
>> document extension. 
>> 
>> I appreciate the tips though.
>> Thanks,
>> Randy
>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> Changing an extension is actually very easy, if that's all you want to do. 
>>> You can do that in finder by pressing enter on the filename going to the 
>>> end of the line taking out the current extension, and then changing it. 
>>> After you change it, press enter and then you will be asked if you really 
>>> want to do that press the L right arrow, and then theon the choice you want.
>>> 
>>> However, if you really want to make a doc file from an RTF file so that 
>>> word is happy with the file, you can't do that from text edit. You would 
>>> need to have Pages to do that.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Everyone, 
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone tell me how to change the extension of a file from (for 
>>>> example) a RTF to a .DOC file?  I don't want to change the document at 
>>>> all, just resave it as a different format.  I see where I can change the 
>>>> file name, but I don't see any way to change the extension. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks so much, 
>>>> Randy 
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Re: changing document extensions in text edit

2013-02-07 Thread Michael Babcock
this isn't true, you can save in a .doc format, in the save as dialog, the 
third or so from the last option will state:
"Rich Text Format (RTF) document File Format:"
or something like this. you can save in .docx (word 2007), .doc (word 97), etc.
On Feb 7, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Sorry for my mistake. I just went into TextEdit, and noticed this. It turns 
> out that this is a little weird, and I had never noticed this in TextEdit. If 
> you call up an existing rtf file, then you don't get an option to change it 
> once you have saved it out as an rtf file. However, if you press command n to 
> start a new file, and you have never saved it out before, then you get a 
> chance to save in Word formats of different kinds. So, if you have already 
> saved out your file,. then you can select all your text, make a new file, and 
> then save it out in whatever Word format you want. I know this is a work 
> around, but it should work. 
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Thank you so much for the information. I am a bit perplexed by this, because 
>> like I said, when I create a new file, I am able to save it as a word 
>> document extension. 
>> 
>> I appreciate the tips though.
>> Thanks,
>> Randy
>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> Changing an extension is actually very easy, if that's all you want to do. 
>>> You can do that in finder by pressing enter on the filename going to the 
>>> end of the line taking out the current extension, and then changing it. 
>>> After you change it, press enter and then you will be asked if you really 
>>> want to do that press the L right arrow, and then theon the choice you want.
>>> 
>>> However, if you really want to make a doc file from an RTF file so that 
>>> word is happy with the file, you can't do that from text edit. You would 
>>> need to have Pages to do that.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Everyone, 
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone tell me how to change the extension of a file from (for 
>>>> example) a RTF to a .DOC file?  I don't want to change the document at 
>>>> all, just resave it as a different format.  I see where I can change the 
>>>> file name, but I don't see any way to change the extension. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks so much, 
>>>> Randy 
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Re: changing document extensions in text edit

2013-02-07 Thread Eugenia Firth
Sorry for my mistake. I just went into TextEdit, and noticed this. It turns out 
that this is a little weird, and I had never noticed this in TextEdit. If you 
call up an existing rtf file, then you don't get an option to change it once 
you have saved it out as an rtf file. However, if you press command n to start 
a new file, and you have never saved it out before, then you get a chance to 
save in Word formats of different kinds. So, if you have already saved out your 
file,. then you can select all your text, make a new file, and then save it out 
in whatever Word format you want. I know this is a work around, but it should 
work. 

Regards,
Gigi

On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Randy George  wrote:

> Thank you so much for the information. I am a bit perplexed by this, because 
> like I said, when I create a new file, I am able to save it as a word 
> document extension. 
> 
> I appreciate the tips though.
> Thanks,
> Randy
> On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi there
>> Changing an extension is actually very easy, if that's all you want to do. 
>> You can do that in finder by pressing enter on the filename going to the end 
>> of the line taking out the current extension, and then changing it. After 
>> you change it, press enter and then you will be asked if you really want to 
>> do that press the L right arrow, and then theon the choice you want.
>> 
>> However, if you really want to make a doc file from an RTF file so that word 
>> is happy with the file, you can't do that from text edit. You would need to 
>> have Pages to do that.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Gigi Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Everyone, 
>>> 
>>> Can anyone tell me how to change the extension of a file from (for example) 
>>> a RTF to a .DOC file?  I don't want to change the document at all, just 
>>> resave it as a different format.  I see where I can change the file name, 
>>> but I don't see any way to change the extension. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much, 
>>> Randy 
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Re: changing document extensions in text edit

2013-02-07 Thread Randy George
Thank you so much for the information. I am a bit perplexed by this, because 
like I said, when I create a new file, I am able to save it as a word document 
extension. 

I appreciate the tips though.
Thanks,
Randy
On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi there
> Changing an extension is actually very easy, if that's all you want to do. 
> You can do that in finder by pressing enter on the filename going to the end 
> of the line taking out the current extension, and then changing it. After you 
> change it, press enter and then you will be asked if you really want to do 
> that press the L right arrow, and then theon the choice you want.
> 
> However, if you really want to make a doc file from an RTF file so that word 
> is happy with the file, you can't do that from text edit. You would need to 
> have Pages to do that.
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everyone, 
>> 
>> Can anyone tell me how to change the extension of a file from (for example) 
>> a RTF to a .DOC file?  I don't want to change the document at all, just 
>> resave it as a different format.  I see where I can change the file name, 
>> but I don't see any way to change the extension. 
>> 
>> Thanks so much, 
>> Randy 
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Re: changing document extensions in text edit

2013-02-07 Thread Randy George
that's strange, because when i open a new document and create it i definitely 
have the option of saving it as a .DOC file.  I've just taken to 
copying/pasting in to a new file and reserving it as a .DOC when i need to say 
upload to a website or something like that. 

Randy 
On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:

> With text edit, you can't change to a .doc format.
> You can only open ms word files.
> 
> On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Randy George  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everyone, 
>> 
>> Can anyone tell me how to change the extension of a file from (for example) 
>> a RTF to a .DOC file?  I don't want to change the document at all, just 
>> resave it as a different format.  I see where I can change the file name, 
>> but I don't see any way to change the extension. 
>> 
>> Thanks so much, 
>> Randy 
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Re: changing document extensions in text edit

2013-02-07 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there
Changing an extension is actually very easy, if that's all you want to do. You 
can do that in finder by pressing enter on the filename going to the end of the 
line taking out the current extension, and then changing it. After you change 
it, press enter and then you will be asked if you really want to do that press 
the L right arrow, and then theon the choice you want.

However, if you really want to make a doc file from an RTF file so that word is 
happy with the file, you can't do that from text edit. You would need to have 
Pages to do that.

Regards,
Gigi Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi Everyone, 
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to change the extension of a file from (for example) a 
> RTF to a .DOC file?  I don't want to change the document at all, just resave 
> it as a different format.  I see where I can change the file name, but I 
> don't see any way to change the extension. 
> 
> Thanks so much, 
> Randy 
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Re: changing document extensions in text edit

2013-02-07 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
With text edit, you can't change to a .doc format.
You can only open ms word files.

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> 
> Can anyone tell me how to change the extension of a file from (for example) a 
> RTF to a .DOC file?  I don't want to change the document at all, just resave 
> it as a different format.  I see where I can change the file name, but I 
> don't see any way to change the extension. 
> 
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> Randy 
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changing document extensions in text edit

2013-02-07 Thread Randy George
Hi Everyone, 

Can anyone tell me how to change the extension of a file from (for example) a 
RTF to a .DOC file?  I don't want to change the document at all, just resave it 
as a different format.  I see where I can change the file name, but I don't see 
any way to change the extension. 

Thanks so much, 
Randy 

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Re: Saving preferences in text edit

2012-12-18 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Thanks that really helps clarify things. 
Lisette

On 18/12/2012, at 11:53 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Hi, Lisette,
> 
> That dialog is actually asking what you want to open. You can press the "new 
> document" button and a blank document will be displayed. You can also press 
> escape and then command-n. I really can't find a way not to show that dialog.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> 
> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
> 
> On Dec 17, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> Can someone please remind me how to set Text Edit to save on my mac and not 
>> in icloud?
>> I can't see it in the text edit preferences or in the icloud tabe of the 
>> main apple preferences. 
>> I want to be able to quickly open text edit without that silly dialogue 
>> asking where I want to save things. I seem to remember than when "on my mac" 
>> is the default that goes away. 
>> Thanks for helping me with my confusion.
>> 
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Re: Saving preferences in text edit

2012-12-17 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Lisette,

That dialog is actually asking what you want to open. You can press the "new 
document" button and a blank document will be displayed. You can also press 
escape and then command-n. I really can't find a way not to show that dialog.

HtH,
Teresa


Slow down; you'll get there faster.

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wrote:

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> Can someone please remind me how to set Text Edit to save on my mac and not 
> in icloud?
> I can't see it in the text edit preferences or in the icloud tabe of the main 
> apple preferences. 
> I want to be able to quickly open text edit without that silly dialogue 
> asking where I want to save things. I seem to remember than when "on my mac" 
> is the default that goes away. 
> Thanks for helping me with my confusion.
> 
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Saving preferences in text edit

2012-12-17 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi
Can someone please remind me how to set Text Edit to save on my mac and not in 
icloud?
I can't see it in the text edit preferences or in the icloud tabe of the main 
apple preferences. 
I want to be able to quickly open text edit without that silly dialogue asking 
where I want to save things. I seem to remember than when "on my mac" is the 
default that goes away. 
Thanks for helping me with my confusion.

Lisette

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accepting suggestions from the spell check in Mail or Text Edit

2012-10-12 Thread Agent086b
Hello, the subject is the question. How do I accept spelling suggestions when 
creating documents?
Thanks again.
Max.

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Re: possible Text edit discovery: can anyone confirm?

2012-09-25 Thread Alex Hall
I think so. I got some inconsistencies when trying to adjust text earlier, but 
I'll keep playing with it. Thanks.
On Sep 25, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> That's fairly normal behaviour for a Word Processor.  Consider that Bold, 
> Italic and such are applied to specific text within a given area whereas 
> alignment is applied to specific lines of text.  Therefore, when the cursor 
> is on a certain line of text, and the center alignment is applied, that line 
> of text is centered.  If your cursor was at the end of whatever you're 
> typing, and you set it to Bold, then everything from then on would be bold 
> until you turned that toggle off.  If you put the cursor in the middle of 
> some text, pressed cmd-b to start Bold, then only the new text entered would 
> be bold.
> 
> Hope that makes sense.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-09-25, at 5:51 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I was playing with Text Edit again today and I think I figured something 
>> out. In MS Word, you highlight the text you want to format and then apply 
>> the formatting. In Text Edit, you do the same for bold or italic, but 
>> aligning seems different. I think you can just move to the start of the text 
>> to be, say, centered and press command vertical line. To stop centering, you 
>> press command left brace. No highlighting required, you just issue the 
>> commands for alignment where you want them and off you go, but remember to 
>> left-align after you are done centering or everything will be centered. Am I 
>> right here? Do even bold or other format commands work this way? thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
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Re: possible Text edit discovery: can anyone confirm?

2012-09-25 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

That's fairly normal behaviour for a Word Processor.  Consider that Bold, 
Italic and such are applied to specific text within a given area whereas 
alignment is applied to specific lines of text.  Therefore, when the cursor is 
on a certain line of text, and the center alignment is applied, that line of 
text is centered.  If your cursor was at the end of whatever you're typing, and 
you set it to Bold, then everything from then on would be bold until you turned 
that toggle off.  If you put the cursor in the middle of some text, pressed 
cmd-b to start Bold, then only the new text entered would be bold.

Hope that makes sense.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> Hi all,
> I was playing with Text Edit again today and I think I figured something out. 
> In MS Word, you highlight the text you want to format and then apply the 
> formatting. In Text Edit, you do the same for bold or italic, but aligning 
> seems different. I think you can just move to the start of the text to be, 
> say, centered and press command vertical line. To stop centering, you press 
> command left brace. No highlighting required, you just issue the commands for 
> alignment where you want them and off you go, but remember to left-align 
> after you are done centering or everything will be centered. Am I right here? 
> Do even bold or other format commands work this way? thanks.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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possible Text edit discovery: can anyone confirm?

2012-09-25 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I was playing with Text Edit again today and I think I figured something out. 
In MS Word, you highlight the text you want to format and then apply the 
formatting. In Text Edit, you do the same for bold or italic, but aligning 
seems different. I think you can just move to the start of the text to be, say, 
centered and press command vertical line. To stop centering, you press command 
left brace. No highlighting required, you just issue the commands for alignment 
where you want them and off you go, but remember to left-align after you are 
done centering or everything will be centered. Am I right here? Do even bold or 
other format commands work this way? thanks.


Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
mehg...@gmail.com



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Re: Question about using text edit for html editing

2012-09-04 Thread Brandon Olivares
Hello,

As far as I know, you have to reopen the document to see the HTML.

Brandon
On Sep 4, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:

> Thanks.
> Is there any way to take an existing document that's  in the window and 
> reveal the codes, or do you have to save it and then read open it to  show 
> the codes?
> Bill
> On Sep 2, 2012, at 7:09 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> When you open the file, you have to check "ignore RTF commands" in the open 
>> dialog.
>> 
>> Brandon
>> On Sep 2, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> Good suggestion, but it didn't work for me.  When I saved a doc in html 
>>> format, closed it and reopened in text edit it came up displaying without 
>>> the html showing, just like i had written it.
>>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> this is going to seem like an absolutely stupid question, I know, but why 
>>>> could you not just reopen the HTML file with in text edit. Would that not 
>>>> work to show your html work? in other words, after saving your file, don't 
>>>> we open it with in safari, but instead, reopen the file with in text edit 
>>>> itself. Hope this helps. Chris.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 2, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi. I'm using text editor to create webpages. After I complete the page  
>>>>> I save it  as an HTML document. but is there anyway after I've done that 
>>>>> to toggle something that will reveal the HTML codes are in the document? 
>>>>> So I could review and learn
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Re: Question about using text edit for html editing

2012-09-04 Thread Bill Holton
Thanks.
Is there any way to take an existing document that's  in the window and reveal 
the codes, or do you have to save it and then read open it to  show the codes?
Bill
On Sep 2, 2012, at 7:09 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> When you open the file, you have to check "ignore RTF commands" in the open 
> dialog.
> 
> Brandon
> On Sep 2, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> Good suggestion, but it didn't work for me.  When I saved a doc in html 
>> format, closed it and reopened in text edit it came up displaying without 
>> the html showing, just like i had written it.
>> 
>> On Sep 2, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>> 
>>> this is going to seem like an absolutely stupid question, I know, but why 
>>> could you not just reopen the HTML file with in text edit. Would that not 
>>> work to show your html work? in other words, after saving your file, don't 
>>> we open it with in safari, but instead, reopen the file with in text edit 
>>> itself. Hope this helps. Chris.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi. I'm using text editor to create webpages. After I complete the page  I 
>>>> save it  as an HTML document. but is there anyway after I've done that to 
>>>> toggle something that will reveal the HTML codes are in the document? So I 
>>>> could review and learn
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Re: Question about using text edit for html editing

2012-09-02 Thread Brandon Olivares
Hello,

When you open the file, you have to check "ignore RTF commands" in the open 
dialog.

Brandon
On Sep 2, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:

> Hi.
> Good suggestion, but it didn't work for me.  When I saved a doc in html 
> format, closed it and reopened in text edit it came up displaying without the 
> html showing, just like i had written it.
> 
> On Sep 2, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
>> this is going to seem like an absolutely stupid question, I know, but why 
>> could you not just reopen the HTML file with in text edit. Would that not 
>> work to show your html work? in other words, after saving your file, don't 
>> we open it with in safari, but instead, reopen the file with in text edit 
>> itself. Hope this helps. Chris.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 2, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi. I'm using text editor to create webpages. After I complete the page  I 
>>> save it  as an HTML document. but is there anyway after I've done that to 
>>> toggle something that will reveal the HTML codes are in the document? So I 
>>> could review and learn
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Re: Question about using text edit for html editing

2012-09-02 Thread Bill Holton
Yes, actually, I have been trying to learn more about this.  The reason I need 
to check the HTML, I have to pull out the header and footer information and  
keep the rest  so that I can post it on a webpage text entry form where I can 
do formatting, but not the header and footer. Because that's already part of 
the system. So far I haven't been able to find a text editor that handles 
marked down that is voiceover compatible, but who knows question certainly not 
me.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Bill
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> Hi Bill,
> 
> I don't know if this is something that interests you, but on a recent 
> podcast, named mac power users podcast, I heard about markdown. Mark down is 
> a way to mark up your text in an easy to read format, that can then be saved 
> into rich text, html and other variants where you need formatting. If you 
> have all punctuation on in VoiceOver, then you will experience how easy it is 
> to write your pages in markdown, and have it h t m aletized when you need 
> that.
> 
> For example, a bulleted list is as easy as putting an asterisk in front of 
> the line you want bulleted, and many things are possible, like headings on 
> different levels, just by remembering a very short, readable and simple 
> syntax.
> 
> I don't have much experience in it myself so far, because I don't write 
> webpages, but what I'm reading and hearing about markdown since my attention 
> was first drawn to it, is really awesome. It allows you to be isolated from 
> coding html, and learn a simple formatting language. Then, let the mark down 
> converter do the rest. For people building their own web sites and doing that 
> in html, markdown or even multi markdown might be an interesting solution. I 
> hope someone will chime in on limitations of mark down, but as far as I've 
> seen it, it takes a lot of work off your shoulders, while leaving the control 
> in your hands. People who know about html say that the markdown output files 
> are in very clean code. Maybe this may help you along the way.
> Paul.
> On Sep 2, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
> 
>> Hi. I'm using text editor to create webpages. After I complete the page  I 
>> save it  as an HTML document. but is there anyway after I've done that to 
>> toggle something that will reveal the HTML codes are in the document? So I 
>> could review and learn
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Re: Question about using text edit for html editing

2012-09-02 Thread Bill Holton
Hi.
Good suggestion, but it didn't work for me.  When I saved a doc in html format, 
closed it and reopened in text edit it came up displaying without the html 
showing, just like i had written it.

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> could you not just reopen the HTML file with in text edit. Would that not 
> work to show your html work? in other words, after saving your file, don't we 
> open it with in safari, but instead, reopen the file with in text edit 
> itself. Hope this helps. Chris.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 2, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
> 
>> Hi. I'm using text editor to create webpages. After I complete the page  I 
>> save it  as an HTML document. but is there anyway after I've done that to 
>> toggle something that will reveal the HTML codes are in the document? So I 
>> could review and learn
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Re: Question about using text edit for html editing

2012-09-02 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi Bill,

I don't know if this is something that interests you, but on a recent podcast, 
named mac power users podcast, I heard about markdown. Mark down is a way to 
mark up your text in an easy to read format, that can then be saved into rich 
text, html and other variants where you need formatting. If you have all 
punctuation on in VoiceOver, then you will experience how easy it is to write 
your pages in markdown, and have it h t m aletized when you need that.

For example, a bulleted list is as easy as putting an asterisk in front of the 
line you want bulleted, and many things are possible, like headings on 
different levels, just by remembering a very short, readable and simple syntax.

I don't have much experience in it myself so far, because I don't write 
webpages, but what I'm reading and hearing about markdown since my attention 
was first drawn to it, is really awesome. It allows you to be isolated from 
coding html, and learn a simple formatting language. Then, let the mark down 
converter do the rest. For people building their own web sites and doing that 
in html, markdown or even multi markdown might be an interesting solution. I 
hope someone will chime in on limitations of mark down, but as far as I've seen 
it, it takes a lot of work off your shoulders, while leaving the control in 
your hands. People who know about html say that the markdown output files are 
in very clean code. Maybe this may help you along the way.
Paul.
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Re: Question about using text edit for html editing

2012-09-02 Thread Chris Gilland
this is going to seem like an absolutely stupid question, I know, but why could 
you not just reopen the HTML file with in text edit. Would that not work to 
show your html work? in other words, after saving your file, don't we open it 
with in safari, but instead, reopen the file with in text edit itself. Hope 
this helps. Chris.

Sent from my iPhone

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Question about using text edit for html editing

2012-09-02 Thread Bill Holton
Hi. I'm using text editor to create webpages. After I complete the page  I save 
it  as an HTML document. but is there anyway after I've done that to toggle 
something that will reveal the HTML codes are in the document? So I could 
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Re: ITunes and Text EDit have disappeared from dock

2012-08-25 Thread Steve Holmes
Just curious, how do you guys find some of these other shortcuts? When I went 
into the menus while on the apps folder, I did not see even a menu item for 
putting the file on the doc.  I saw one for putting it on the sidebar 
(Command-T).  When I looked around in the help menu for the finder, I didn't 
come across that either.  This is a good one to remember though.

On Aug 25, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> find the apps in your applications folder in the finder and press command 
> shift T to add them back to the dock.
> 
> hth
> 
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> On Aug 25, 2012, at 4:42 PM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
>> Have no idea why, but can't get to them unless I use finder or Sptlight. How 
>> can I get them back in there?
>> Thanks.
>> Christine
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Re: ITunes and Text EDit have disappeared from dock

2012-08-25 Thread Christine Grassman
Great. Thanks much.
On Aug 25, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> find the apps in your applications folder in the finder and press command 
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> 
> hth
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Re: ITunes and Text EDit have disappeared from dock

2012-08-25 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

find the apps in your applications folder in the finder and press command shift 
T to add them back to the dock.

hth

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ITunes and Text EDit have disappeared from dock

2012-08-25 Thread Christine Grassman
Have no idea why, but can't get to them unless I use finder or Sptlight. How 
can I get them back in there?
Thanks.
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Re: Text edit and icloud

2012-08-14 Thread Veronica Elsea
Hi there!
Happily, I also figured out that somehow when installing ML, it had changed my 
icloud settings. So once I went in and unchecked documents, as I don't want my 
documents in the cloud, Text edit started behaving nicely again. Yay! No 
opening with the strange wizard and saving defaulted to the documents folder. 
Yippee! Thanks.

Veronica

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> I think it was Veronica who had a question about text edit wanting to put 
> everything in the cloud.
> 
> I too found this irritating and discovered that:
> 
> 1, You can uncheck the iCloud box in the text edit dialog, and check the 
> local box. Then carry on. I do not know if that remains in effect for the 
> future.
> 
> 2, If you sign out of iCloud then  text edit opens without interruption.
> 
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Re: Text edit and icloud

2012-08-13 Thread Gerry Cook
Hi john go to system preferences and interact with preference pains and press i 
or vo i to icloud interact with a table their, that lists what you've got 
checked and uncheck documents and data and text edit goes back to how it was 
and the icloud choice is gone. Hope that helps.
cheers gerry have a great day
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email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au

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> 
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> 
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> local box. Then carry on. I do not know if that remains in effect for the 
> future.
> 
> 2, If you sign out of iCloud then  text edit opens without interruption.
> 
> js
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Text edit and icloud

2012-08-13 Thread John Sanfilippo
I think it was Veronica who had a question about text edit wanting to put 
everything in the cloud.

I too found this irritating and discovered that:

1, You can uncheck the iCloud box in the text edit dialog, and check the local 
box. Then carry on. I do not know if that remains in effect for the future.

2, If you sign out of iCloud then  text edit opens without interruption.

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RE: New window in Text Edit with ML?

2012-07-30 Thread Paul Hunt
Maybe there's a Text Edit app for the IPhone. I haven't checked since I
rarely use Text Edit.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 8:03 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New window in Text Edit with ML?

 

Hi Chris. 

Apparently, the default these days for saving files is the Cloud in
TextEdit. I didn't get this message until I went to save a file, but I
didn't understand at first until I wanted to find the thing. I had been
using the desktop before, and then the the file was gone. I went to
Spotlight is command space and typed in the first letters of the file, and
lo, I heard the file name plus where it was. 

 

This is so you can have files on your iPhone, iPad, etc. I think you can
change it if you want the files not to be synced with the iPhone, but one of
these days I'm going to find that folder and figure out how to copy files to
it if I need them on an I OS device. 

 

When I copied the file after finding it, I moved it to the place where I
wanted it to go on my Mac. I got the message about whether I really wanted
to do this because otherwise I was removing the file from being accessible
to my iPhone. I moved it anyway. 

 

Anybody know where on your iPhone you would find such files like TextEdit
files? 

 

Eugenia Firth

gigifi...@sbcglobal.net

 

 

 

On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:28 AM, Christopher-Mark gilland
 wrote:





I hope someone can help me understand this window a bit better and what it
lets me do exactly.

When I bring up Text Edit, I now get a window before being taken to the text
area to type, which has things about ICloud, create new document, etc.  What
does ICloud have to really do with anything in this context?

I'm a bit confused.

Chris.

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Re: New window in Text Edit with ML?

2012-07-30 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Chris. 
Apparently, the default these days for saving files is the Cloud in TextEdit. I 
didn't get this message until I went to save a file, but I didn't understand at 
first until I wanted to find the thing. I had been using the desktop before, 
and then the the file was gone. I went to Spotlight is command space and typed 
in the first letters of the file, and lo, I heard the file name plus where it 
was. 

This is so you can have files on your iPhone, iPad, etc. I think you can change 
it if you want the files not to be synced with the iPhone, but one of these 
days I'm going to find that folder and figure out how to copy files to it if I 
need them on an I OS device. 

When I copied the file after finding it, I moved it to the place where I wanted 
it to go on my Mac. I got the message about whether I really wanted to do this 
because otherwise I was removing the file from being accessible to my iPhone. I 
moved it anyway. 

Anybody know where on your iPhone you would find such files like TextEdit 
files? 

Eugenia Firth
gigifi...@sbcglobal.net



On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:28 AM, Christopher-Mark gilland  
wrote:

> I hope someone can help me understand this window a bit better and what it 
> lets me do exactly.
> 
> When I bring up Text Edit, I now get a window before being taken to the text 
> area to type, which has things about ICloud, create new document, etc.  What 
> does ICloud have to really do with anything in this context?
> 
> I'm a bit confused.
> 
> Chris.
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New window in Text Edit with ML?

2012-07-30 Thread Christopher-Mark gilland
I hope someone can help me understand this window a bit better and what it 
lets me do exactly.


When I bring up Text Edit, I now get a window before being taken to the text 
area to type, which has things about ICloud, create new document, etc.  What 
does ICloud have to really do with anything in this context?


I'm a bit confused.

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Re: double spacing in text edit

2012-06-21 Thread Esther
Hi Christina,

If you are using TextEdit in rich text mode, and you just want to set the line 
spacing to double space, the easy way to do this is to VO-Left arrow (left 
arrow, if you have Quick Nav on) from the scroll area for the text, to the pop 
up menu buttons in the title bar.  You'll first hear VoiceOver say "list style, 
menu button", then when you VO-Left again, "1.0, line spacing, pop up button".  
Press the pop up button for line spacing (VO-space) and set the line spacing to 
2.0.

The different arguments in the spacing dialog window that you access from the 
format menu allow you more options.  You can either set a fixed line spacing in 
points, or scale it to be a multiple of the current line height.  The 
difference shows up when you use multiple font sizes in your document, so that 
the line height can change according to the largest font you use in a line.  If 
you aren't going to change fonts in the middle of a line or paragraph, you 
would just set the line height multiple to "2.0" in that format menu.  
Alternatively, if your default font type is 12 points high, but sometimes you 
include a word in 14 point type for emphasis, you might set your interline 
spacing to be 24 points for double spacing in that dialog window, and leave the 
other arguments alone.  You can also set a different spacing between paragraphs 
in the dialog.

Also, if you save your settings as a new custom style, under the "paragraph 
style" menu button, I believe that your spacing, font, and other choices will 
get set whenever you create a new document and select that style.  So you could 
create a style that you named "double spacing", for example.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther
  
On Jun 21, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Christina wrote:

> I don't get how to "double space" in text edit.  I found the spacing option 
> under the format menu.  However, I do not understand what to put in what 
> field once the spacing dialog opens up.  I honestly do not understand the 
> options.
> 
> Thanks,
> Christina C.
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double spacing in text edit

2012-06-21 Thread Christina
I don't get how to "double space" in text edit.  I found the spacing option 
under the format menu.  However, I do not understand what to put in what field 
once the spacing dialog opens up.  I honestly do not understand the options.

Thanks,
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Re: reading with text edit

2012-06-10 Thread Gerard Doody
thanks a lot.  
Gerard Doody
jerrydood...@gmail.com



On Jun 10, 2012, at 4:02 AM, Gigi wrote:

Hi Gerard
I didn't see where anybody sent this to you, but when I bought numbers it was 
$21.64. Pages, which is I guess sort of like word, is the same amount. I did 
not need keynotes, which is presentation software.
Regards
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

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> Quick question, text edit is it free? If not how much is it?
> 
> 
> 
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> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:37 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Cc: macvoiceo...@freelists.org
> Subject: reading with text edit
> 
> Ok, for the life of me I can't remember how to do this. Shows how often I
> use this program.
> 
> How do you get text edit to read from top of the document? Also, once you
> stop it how to resume it from where you left off. Control, command b is not
> it.
> 
> Thanks, May and Prince Noah
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Re: reading with text edit

2012-06-10 Thread Gigi
Hi Gerard
I didn't see where anybody sent this to you, but when I bought numbers it was 
$21.64. Pages, which is I guess sort of like word, is the same amount. I did 
not need keynotes, which is presentation software.
Regards
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

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> Quick question, text edit is it free? If not how much is it?
> 
> 
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> http://twitter.com/#!/blindaccess
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of May McDonald
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:37 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Cc: macvoiceo...@freelists.org
> Subject: reading with text edit
> 
> Ok, for the life of me I can't remember how to do this. Shows how often I
> use this program.
> 
> How do you get text edit to read from top of the document? Also, once you
> stop it how to resume it from where you left off. Control, command b is not
> it.
> 
> Thanks, May and Prince Noah
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Re: reading with text edit

2012-06-09 Thread Gerard Doody
Thanks very much.  I just want to create simple spreadsheets though when I 
tried with text edit, it didn't seem to work well.  thanks again for the tip. 
Gerard Doody
jerrydood...@gmail.com



On Jun 9, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Esther wrote:

Hi Gerard,

If you are using Rich Text mode, TextEdit has a feature for creating tables, 
but you'd be better off using a dedicated application like Numbers.  Many 
people find Daniel Schwill's Tables application more intuitive to use, 
especially in the way that it references cells.  This is the application that 
we had before Numbers added VoiceOver accessibility, so there was VoiceOver 
user input to the developer. You might like that better unless you're a power 
user of spreadsheets, since Tables doesn't have good support for pivot table 
functions, etc.

You can get a trial download from:
http://www-x-tables.eu/
And I think he also offers an educational discount.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jun 9, 2012, at 08:49, Gerard Doody wrote:

> Hi all, Does text edit also allow you to create tables, or is numbers better? 
> Gerard Doody
> jerrydood...@gmail.com
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Re: reading with text edit

2012-06-09 Thread John Panarese
 You really can't break anything on the Mac unless you really go out of the 
way to try.  Just take it little by little and choose small battles first.  
Also, don't fall back on your Windows mindset or expectations as you use the 
Mac.  Learn the Mac and VoiceOver as a different OS and screen reader.  It's no 
different than when you learned Windows.  Keep that in perspective as you go 
along.


Take Care

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On Jun 9, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Kimsan wrote:

> Thanks John.
> I purchased my mac book pro a few months ago but being a two-person team at
> www.BlindAccessTraining.com and  not having the time I would like to devote
> to the mac, I am learning when I can.
> With my business offering training only in windows and web design, the mac
> has suffered great neglection these past few months.
> However, now that my day job has let out and I am off for the summer, I plan
> on devoting more time to exploring the macbook pro I have. Lol, I'm just
> scared to touch it again and break something haha.
> 
> 
> 
> Kimsan Song Online Access Technology Trainer
> 509.396.1646
> www.BlindAccessTraining.com
> Twitter:
> http://twitter.com/#!/blindaccess
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 12:19 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: reading with text edit
> 
> Text Edit might be similar to Notepad, perhaps, but Text Edit is a full
> blown word Processor.  It might not have all of the features of a MS Word,
> but you will find that you can do a great deal with it.
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 9, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Kimsan wrote:
> 
>> So text edit is akinda to whaat notepad is for windows?
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: reading with text edit

2012-06-09 Thread Pete Nalda
Text Edit is free, and comes with MacOs. 

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> Quick question, text edit is it free? If not how much is it?
> 
> 
> 
> Kimsan Song Online Access Technology Trainer
> 509.396.1646
> www.BlindAccessTraining.com
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> http://twitter.com/#!/blindaccess
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of May McDonald
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:37 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Cc: macvoiceo...@freelists.org
> Subject: reading with text edit
> 
> Ok, for the life of me I can't remember how to do this. Shows how often I
> use this program.
> 
> How do you get text edit to read from top of the document? Also, once you
> stop it how to resume it from where you left off. Control, command b is not
> it.
> 
> Thanks, May and Prince Noah
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RE: reading with text edit

2012-06-09 Thread Kimsan
Thanks John.
I purchased my mac book pro a few months ago but being a two-person team at
www.BlindAccessTraining.com and  not having the time I would like to devote
to the mac, I am learning when I can.
With my business offering training only in windows and web design, the mac
has suffered great neglection these past few months.
However, now that my day job has let out and I am off for the summer, I plan
on devoting more time to exploring the macbook pro I have. Lol, I'm just
scared to touch it again and break something haha.



Kimsan Song Online Access Technology Trainer
509.396.1646
www.BlindAccessTraining.com
Twitter:
http://twitter.com/#!/blindaccess


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 12:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: reading with text edit

 Text Edit might be similar to Notepad, perhaps, but Text Edit is a full
blown word Processor.  It might not have all of the features of a MS Word,
but you will find that you can do a great deal with it.

Take Care

John Panarese
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Re: reading with text edit

2012-06-09 Thread Esther
Hi Gerard,

If you are using Rich Text mode, TextEdit has a feature for creating tables, 
but you'd be better off using a dedicated application like Numbers.  Many 
people find Daniel Schwill's Tables application more intuitive to use, 
especially in the way that it references cells.  This is the application that 
we had before Numbers added VoiceOver accessibility, so there was VoiceOver 
user input to the developer. You might like that better unless you're a power 
user of spreadsheets, since Tables doesn't have good support for pivot table 
functions, etc.

You can get a trial download from:
http://www-x-tables.eu/
And I think he also offers an educational discount.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jun 9, 2012, at 08:49, Gerard Doody wrote:

> Hi all, Does text edit also allow you to create tables, or is numbers better? 
> Gerard Doody
> jerrydood...@gmail.com
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Re: reading with text edit

2012-06-09 Thread John Panarese
 Text Edit might be similar to Notepad, perhaps, but Text Edit is a full 
blown word Processor.  It might not have all of the features of a MS Word, but 
you will find that you can do a great deal with it.

Take Care

John Panarese
jpanar...@gmail.com



On Jun 9, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Kimsan wrote:

> So text edit is akinda to whaat notepad is for windows?
> 
> 
> 
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RE: reading with text edit

2012-06-09 Thread Kimsan
So text edit is akinda to whaat notepad is for windows?




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Re: reading with text edit

2012-06-09 Thread Gerard Doody
Hi all, Does text edit also allow you to create tables, or is numbers better? 
Gerard Doody
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On Jun 9, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Kimsan wrote:

Quick question, text edit is it free? If not how much is it?



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of May McDonald
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:37 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvoiceo...@freelists.org
Subject: reading with text edit

Ok, for the life of me I can't remember how to do this. Shows how often I
use this program.

How do you get text edit to read from top of the document? Also, once you
stop it how to resume it from where you left off. Control, command b is not
it.

Thanks, May and Prince Noah

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Re: reading with text edit

2012-06-09 Thread Esther
Hi,

TextEdit is built into the MacOS X operating system, and can be found in the 
Applications folder.  So, yes, it is free, since it is installed with every 
Mac.  It's used primarily to create or read text documents, which can either be 
plain text or rich text format.

What may be of more interest to you, although May did not mention it, is that 
in TextEdit VoiceOver will read all sorts of special characters, including 
special math symbols, and characters for languages with non-Latin alphabets, 
even if you don't have voices for those languages (e.g., Greek alphabet, 
Cyrillic alphabet for Russian and other slavic languages), also emoji 
characters, etc. 

And if you select text in a Word document with an embedded table that VoiceOver 
wouldn't otherwise read out, and send use the "New TextEdit Window Containing 
Selection" service menu option (which you can enable by checking this option 
under System Preferences > Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts  for Services), then 
VoiceOver will read all text (including the tables) in that document from the 
TextEdit window.

As an aside, if anyone is interested in using TextEdit to copy over special 
characters, like emoji characters for messages, I wrote a description of how to 
do this in the AppleVis site's Forum just a day ago.  Look under the OS X & Mac 
App Discussion thread titled "using the special character itim pallet".  I 
don't use the character palette for emoji, but you can get special math symbols 
or Cyrillic or Greek alphabet letters easily copied with this method of opening 
a TextEdit file and bringing up the Character Palette with Command-Option-T.


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther 

On Jun 9, 2012, at 07:38, Kimsan wrote:

> Quick question, text edit is it free? If not how much is it?
> 
> 
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of May McDonald
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:37 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Cc: macvoiceo...@freelists.org
> Subject: reading with text edit
> 
> Ok, for the life of me I can't remember how to do this. Shows how often I
> use this program.
> 
> How do you get text edit to read from top of the document? Also, once you
> stop it how to resume it from where you left off. Control, command b is not
> it.
> 
> Thanks, May and Prince Noah
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Re: reading with text edit

2012-06-09 Thread John Panarese
 Text Edit is one of the applications that comes with the Mac.  No need to 
purchase it or such.  It should be in your applications folder or in your Dock 
by default.

Take Care

John Panarese
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On Jun 9, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Kimsan wrote:

> Quick question, text edit is it free? If not how much is it?
> 
> 
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of May McDonald
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:37 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Cc: macvoiceo...@freelists.org
> Subject: reading with text edit
> 
> Ok, for the life of me I can't remember how to do this. Shows how often I
> use this program.
> 
> How do you get text edit to read from top of the document? Also, once you
> stop it how to resume it from where you left off. Control, command b is not
> it.
> 
> Thanks, May and Prince Noah
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RE: reading with text edit

2012-06-09 Thread Kimsan
Quick question, text edit is it free? If not how much is it?



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvoiceo...@freelists.org
Subject: reading with text edit

Ok, for the life of me I can't remember how to do this. Shows how often I
use this program.

How do you get text edit to read from top of the document? Also, once you
stop it how to resume it from where you left off. Control, command b is not
it.

Thanks, May and Prince Noah

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Re: Reverting Files in Text Edit

2012-06-05 Thread Steve Holmes
Any ideas on how to do this with VoiceOver? Saw no replies to original message.

On 6/4/12, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> What is the easiest way to revert a document while using Text Edit and
> VoiceOver? When I choose File -> Revert, I get the dialog with a
> button for revert to most recent save and another button for viewing
> all past versions.  the problem I have is viewing past versions.  At
> least when I tried this, I only saw a single line with the same date
> and time in it twice.  If I interacted with it, I just interacted with
> text.  I thought there would be a table or something.  I'm new to this
> idea of reverting to prior versions, so maybe some background info
> would be of good help.  Are there special tricks for VO users to
> access this area?
>
> Thanks for any possible help.
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Reverting Files in Text Edit

2012-06-04 Thread Steve Holmes
What is the easiest way to revert a document while using Text Edit and
VoiceOver? When I choose File -> Revert, I get the dialog with a
button for revert to most recent save and another button for viewing
all past versions.  the problem I have is viewing past versions.  At
least when I tried this, I only saw a single line with the same date
and time in it twice.  If I interacted with it, I just interacted with
text.  I thought there would be a table or something.  I'm new to this
idea of reverting to prior versions, so maybe some background info
would be of good help.  Are there special tricks for VO users to
access this area?

Thanks for any possible help.

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Re: reading with text edit

2012-06-03 Thread Daniel McGee
no problem, glad I could help!
On 3 Jun 2012, at 20:59, May McDonald wrote:

> Awesome thanks. That will help for now.
> 
> May and Prince Noah
> On 2012-06-03, at 3:47 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
> 
>> Hi May, first of all I would advise interacting with the document in 
>> question because if you was going through it line by line, if you did a say 
>> all with Command A, voiceover will start from the very top. This is why when 
>> I'm working with documents, I always interact with it 1st because then 
>> whenever I do the say all command no matter where I am in the document 
>> Voiceover will read from that current position and will keep track of it 
>> when you stop. 
>> 
>> This is how I deal with documents and I hope it helps you. LOL I remember 
>> what it was like in the beginning. I should mention that I don't use Text 
>> Edit. I use a app called Bean but I'm making an educated guess that it will 
>> apply to any text/word  
>> 
>> Daniel
>> On 3 Jun 2012, at 20:36, May McDonald wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, for the life of me I can't remember how to do this. Shows how often I 
>>> use this program.
>>> 
>>> How do you get text edit to read from top of the document? Also, once you 
>>> stop it how to resume it from where you left off. Control, command b is not 
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, May and Prince Noah
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Re: reading with text edit

2012-06-03 Thread May McDonald
Awesome thanks. That will help for now.

May and Prince Noah
On 2012-06-03, at 3:47 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:

> Hi May, first of all I would advise interacting with the document in question 
> because if you was going through it line by line, if you did a say all with 
> Command A, voiceover will start from the very top. This is why when I'm 
> working with documents, I always interact with it 1st because then whenever I 
> do the say all command no matter where I am in the document Voiceover will 
> read from that current position and will keep track of it when you stop. 
> 
> This is how I deal with documents and I hope it helps you. LOL I remember 
> what it was like in the beginning. I should mention that I don't use Text 
> Edit. I use a app called Bean but I'm making an educated guess that it will 
> apply to any text/word  
> 
>  Daniel
> On 3 Jun 2012, at 20:36, May McDonald wrote:
> 
>> Ok, for the life of me I can't remember how to do this. Shows how often I 
>> use this program.
>> 
>> How do you get text edit to read from top of the document? Also, once you 
>> stop it how to resume it from where you left off. Control, command b is not 
>> it.
>> 
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