Important Follow-Up to: Removal of Sound Flower from OSX Resolved

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

After successfully uninstalling Sound Flower from my Mac, I noticed a
significant increase in the amount of time it took my system to startup.  I
would say that it took almost 20 times as long to boot up after I
uninstalled Sound Flower even after repairing and verifying disk
permissions, etc.

I was resigning myself to the fact that I would have to perform a clean
install of OSX when I decided to perform a quick Google search regarding
this problem.  Low-and-behold, I found the solution, said solution being the
following:

It appears that in order to retain the normal system startup time, after
uninstalling Sound Flower, one must reset the system PRAM.  

I reset the PRAM and, thankfully, my Mac is booting up at normal speed,
again.  

To reset the PRAM, power on the Mac while pressing Option+Command+R+P until
the startup chime is heard, twice.  

Mark

Original Message:
Hello All,

I just successfully uninstalled the Sound Flower extension from my Mac.

Since I did not have the install package as my copy of Sound Flower was
installed by an old version of Audio Hijack Pro, I:

1.
GGoogled the location of the download site for Sound Flower.

2.
I downloaded the most recent version of Sound Flower which is 1.6.6b.

3.
As was instructed by a helpful list member, I opened the Sound Flower
package and located the uninstall script and ran it.

4.
Finally, I rebooted my Mac.

Done.

Mark

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RE: How To Make Your Mac Chime When You Plug It In

[M. Taylor]

Hello Alex,

Thanks for this.  It's pretty nifty.

Now, if we could only get VoiceOver to say, "Screen Locked" when one locks the 
screen on the Mac; making it consistent with the iOS experience. (smile).

When the bottom row of apps, in iOS, began being preceded by the word "doc" I 
thought it would only be a matter of time before locked screen would be 
announced in OSX.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: How To Make Your Mac Chime When You Plug It In

Hi all,
I saw this today and thought it was pretty cool. I tried it, and it worked; my 
Mac now plays the familiar chime we all know and love from iOS when it gets 
plugged in. In other words, my phone and Mac now play the same sound when I 
hook them to power. No, it's not necessary, but I really like it and it's just 
one command I could undo if I ever wanted to. Here's how to do this (remember, 
you need OS X 10.10.3 or newer):
http://www.cultofmac.com/319331/how-to-hack-the-new-macbook-power-chime-onto-the-macbook-air-pro/

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RE: How To Make Your Mac Chime When You Plug It In

[M. Taylor]

Hello Joe,

ON a Mac notebook, running Yosemite, you may lock the screen by simply pressing 
the power button for approximately one 
second.  There is no audio feedback, indicating that the screen has been 
successfully locked.  Please note that pressing the power button for longer 
than one second will cause the Shutdown prompt to appear.  

Press almost any key on the notebook to unlock the screen.

Mark
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 6:41 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How To Make Your Mac Chime When You Plug It In

How do you lock and unlock the screen on the Mac anyway? I never figured that 
out

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2015, at 8:10 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Alex,
> 
> Thanks for this.  It's pretty nifty.
> 
> Now, if we could only get VoiceOver to say, "Screen Locked" when one locks 
> the screen on the Mac; making it consistent with the iOS experience. (smile).
> 
> When the bottom row of apps, in iOS, began being preceded by the word "doc" I 
> thought it would only be a matter of time before locked screen would be 
> announced in OSX.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:33 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: How To Make Your Mac Chime When You Plug It In
> 
> Hi all,
> I saw this today and thought it was pretty cool. I tried it, and it worked; 
> my Mac now plays the familiar chime we all know and love from iOS when it 
> gets plugged in. In other words, my phone and Mac now play the same sound 
> when I hook them to power. No, it's not necessary, but I really like it and 
> it's just one command I could undo if I ever wanted to. Here's how to do this 
> (remember, you need OS X 10.10.3 or newer):
> http://www.cultofmac.com/319331/how-to-hack-the-new-macbook-power-chime-onto-the-macbook-air-pro/
> 
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> Alex Hall
> mehg...@icloud.com
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RE: Adware warning!

[M. Taylor]

Hello Christine,  

I am so sorry that you had to experience such a, what for many of us, would be 
a scary thing.  

You know, a month or so ago, a friend of mine purchased a new MacBook Air.  

I don't know what she did between the Friday when I set it up and the following 
Tuesday but when next I saw it, there was no doubt but that she had been 
hacked/compromised.  I don't remember the particulars but a quick Google search 
confirmed it.

Now even though many hate to hear this, I'll tell you that, for my money, the 
only way to really be certain that you have a clean secure system is to (1) 
restore from a known good backup such as one would have using SuperDuper or (2) 
wiping the drive clean and performing a fresh install.  As far as I am 
concerned, once your system has been compromised, there are no other options.

So many times I see both Windows and Mac users take less drastic steps to 
redeem their systems only to have the same problems crop up a few weeks or 
sometimes months later.  

This is just my opinion, of course, as I do not want to start a heated debate.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 3:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Adware warning!

I want you all to know about something I just experienced.
I was on Twitter within Safari and a “critical service warning” popped up, 
informing me that a malicious virus had been detected and had attacked my 
system, and that “we have shut down all of your critical systems to protect any 
further damage.” The warning went on to give this number:
888 553-4193
and directed me to give a number starting with Mac and ending with several 
digits.
My BS detector was on full alert. 
I called Apple and told them what was going on. I was informed that this occurs 
several times a day at least, and that it usually involves adware.
When a screen sharing session link was sent, Safari could not find the server, 
nor could Google Chrome. 
I was then told to open the MacBook in safe mode, and I thought I could use 
VoiceOver in safe mode, but it would not come on, and command F5 would not 
bring it up.
The tech support rep handed me over to someone who had more VoiceOver 
experience. He had me shut down and restart normally, then sent me the ability 
to screen share by using my apple ID, which made the screen sharing like an 
application, which enabled me to go to adwaremedic.com, download adware medic, 
and run it.
This problem appears to be resolved, but I wanted you all to be aware of this 
incident, as well as to inquire: Isn’t there a way to use VoiceOver in safe 
mode?
Thank you . . . and be careful out there. I was told people have been known to 
give their credit card numbers to these people thinking they are getting their 
computers fixed.
Christine

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RE: organising by threaded conversations on Mac

[M. Taylor]

Hello Daniel,

The way I use OSX Mail, which does have VoiceOver state how many messages are 
in the thread, is to use the Standard layout, as opposed to the Classic layout. 
 As I have never used the Classic layout, I don’t know if there is a way in 
which to hear how many messages are in a thread.  Classic layout users will 
have to chime in on that.  

I am, without a doubt, the number one fan of the Standard layout, with the 
Preview Pane enabled.

In my never-to-be humble opinion, I think that it is the single best feature in 
OSX in terms of processing hundreds and hundreds of emails in a matter of mere 
moments.  

Just so you know, the Standard layout of the Mail app in OSX is the default 
layout.  In my experience, I have found that over 95% of the Macs I come 
across, owned by sighted users, adopt this configuration in the mail app.  The 
advantage to me is that I, being intimately comfortable with this layout, have 
absolutely no problem in supporting them or in quickly moving to a new Mac, if 
only temporarily. 

Using the Standard layout, from the View menu, select Organize by Conversation, 
then select Collapse all Conversations.  

That should get you started.  

Good Luck and Enjoy,

Mark


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 7:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: organising by threaded conversations on Mac

Hi all, for those who may use threaded conversation view on the mac, are there 
any tips on how you would use it effectively?
For example, I can tell if a thread is unread but am unable to tell how many 
messages are unread. Once, I've opened it.

Just really share with me how you would use this on the mac because I've sort 
of gotten use to it on the iphone now and would like to try and do so on the 
mac as well.

Using OS X Yosemite V10.10.3 
Thanks in advance for any experiences you may share.

Daniel

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Switching a Live Non-Apple Device Call from iPhone to Mac via Continuity, Can It Be Done?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this to both the Mac and iOS mailing lists.  

Question:  Can one send a live call from iPhone to the Mac via Continuity?

As an F.Y.I.:
All aspects of Continuity are working between my iOS devices running 8.3 and
my Macs running the latest version of OSX.

Also, I can easily switch a previously Mac-answered incoming non-Apple
device call back to my primary iPhone by simply activating the Switch to
call button located at the top of the display, on the iPhone acting as the
conveyance for the call.

All Replies Welcomed.

Mark

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How To Install iPhoto in Yosemite (OS X 10.10)

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Hopefully, some of you will find the following article useful.

Mark

How To Install iPhoto in Yosemite (OS X 10.10) 

For whatever reason you've wound up here (probably not a fan of Photos) -
this step-by-step guide will show you how to install/re-install iPhoto on
your Mac running Yosemite (OS X 10.10.x) 

After Photos came out, you might have noticed that iPhoto no longer wanted
to run. 
 
Trying to update.
 
. seems to be futile. 
 
Fear not. Following these instructions, you'll have iPhoto working in
Yosemite in no time. 

NOTE:
Apple is sending a clear message - iPhoto is gone. It's unlikely that it'll
receive another update (perhaps bugfixes, feature updates far less likely)
and it would seem the future is "Photos". Once you have iPhoto working
again, maybe you'll want to take a closer look at Photos. Maybe not. 

Regardless - here are the steps to turn iPhoto back into a functional App. 

1.
Click the "Apple Icon" in your Menu Bar and select App Store.. 
 
2.
The App Store will open. 
 
3.
Click Purchases. 
 
4.
If you aren't signed in, you'll be prompted to do so. If you're already
signed in, skip the next step. 
 
5.
Sign in with your Apple ID 
 
6.
Now scroll through your list of Purchases. Locate iPhoto. 
 
7.
Click the Update button. 
 
8.
If all goes as planned, your Mac is now downloading and installing a
functional version of iPhoto. 

Congrats! You're done. To everyone else: there's a big chance it isn't
working. Give it a few minutes, but if the update doesn't seem to be
happening - fear not - and keep reading. 

9.
Exit out of the App Store, and close down all open Apps (saving work if
needed etc). Open your System Preferences and locate the Users & Groups
option. Click it. 
 
10.
In order to make changes (or add a user, which is what we'll be doing) -
you'll probably need to "Unlock" this section first. Click the Lock icon in
the bottom left corner of the screen. 
 
11.
Enter your password. 
 
12.
Now click the "plus sign" ( + ) directly below the Login Options text (as
illustrated in the screenshot below). 
 
13.
What you'll be doing is creating a new account, installing iPhoto on it, and
then your account will wind up with a functional version as well. So create
the user and make sure the New Account: is set to Administrator. The Full
Name and Account Name can be anything you'd like - this account will be
deleted after iPhoto is working again. Make sure you select Use separate
password, enter it twice in the spaces provided, and then click Create User.

 
14.
Now the new User account you just created will be listed with the other
accounts on your Mac. 
 
15.
You may want to read the rest through before you actually follow the steps -
you're about to sign out of your account and will need to close this browser
window to do so. 

16.
Exit out of the System Preferences, and log out of your account by selecting
the Apple Icon and then Log Out. 
 
17.
Sign in to the new account you just created. Once again open the App Store,
sign in, go to your Purchases and locate iPhoto. Click the Install button
next to it. 
 
18.
Shouldn't take too long - it will depend on the speed of your Internet
connection. May want to grab yourself a beverage. 
 
19.
After the installation has completed sign out of your "new" account, then
back into your regular account. iPhoto no longer has the "this isn't going
to work" icon! 
 
20.
Launch it as you always have, and enjoy! 


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RE: Apple Watch and Maps experience

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jenine and All,

After borrowing a friend's Apple Watch for two days, I have decided not to 
purchase one.

However, earlier today, I walked 2 miles with my iPhone 6 Plus using the Apple 
Maps App set to tracking with Headings.

The GPS announcements were spot on.  It even announced businesses just as I was 
approaching.  In a way, it felt as though I had a friend walking with me 
describing my surroundings.  A very, very impressive and memorable experience, 
to be sure.

I do believe this was the first time I've used the Apple Maps as a pedestrian 
choosing instead to use Seeing Eye GPS for such jaunts but I am glad I tried it 
out today.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 10:47 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Watch and Maps experience

This is for donna and others wondering about how the Maps app works on both the 
phone and Watch. 

It seems, unless someone knows a trick I don’t, that if you just turn the Maps 
app on in your phone, it does not automatically handoff to the Watch or match 
the Maps App on the Watch in any way. 

right now it seems all you can really do with the Maps app on the Watch as a 
stand-alone is to get your position when standing still with a nifty visual map 
plus street address. This is not particularly accurate either. The GPS seems to 
be a bit lagging or like the last generation GPS receivers in the old phones 
that used Mobile speak. 

Now for the pairing/handoff feature. this is cool but again there is a definite 
lag while walking. I was well past my turns before getting the haptic or verbal 
feedback to turn. It did show my destination, my home, just as I stepped onto 
my driveway which was good but the turns were really off. 

The Maps app on the Watch is also invoked when you have an address in a message 
or other app on the Watch and you either double tap it or do the forced touch 
on it, depending on the app. This is the same as if you start the direction 
process on your phone apparently as both seem to use Apple Maps. 

The handoff process is quick, maybe 2 seconds tops but then the GPS is slow to 
keep up. 

Right now the only GPS seems to be using Apple Maps. If anyone knows of 
anything different, please shout out. 

Oh and finally, I set the tracking option to “ON” for the Watch and “ON with 
Headings” for the phone and it seemed to make no difference. 

Can’t wait to hear other people’s experiences. 

Oh and I’m beyond happy the Transit App is fixed so you can see the next bus 
with VO! 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



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RE: Macbook Air suddenly slow to boot up

[M. Taylor]

Hello Ed,

I suggest that you reset the system PRAM.  

To reset the PRAM, power on the Mac while pressing Option+Command+R+P until the 
startup chime is heard, twice.  

It may be necessary to perform this several times until you are successful.  It 
can be tricky.  

Good luck,

Mark

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On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 10:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Macbook Air suddenly slow to boot up

Hi,

My 2012 Macbook Air has suddenly become slow to boot up.

I am running Yosemite and have the hard drive encrypted.  I used to be able to 
enter the password a couple of seconds after the startup sound, but since last 
week, I have had to wait around half a minute before the password box appears.

I’m not aware of having installed anything in particular over the past seven 
days.  Does anyone have any ideas about why the machine may have suddenly 
become slow to boot and what I might try? The machine does not seem to be any 
slower during actual operation.

Cheers,

Ed

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RE: Importing Address Books.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Anita,

The answer to your question depends a great deal on several factors and whether 
or not you intend to continue to use Outlook for Windows.  

For example, I use OSX, iOS, Android, Windows 7, and Windows 8 on a daily 
basis; as a consequence, I require that my Contacts, Reminders, Calendar 
appointments, etc, be synced across all of these platforms, automatically.

If you intend to continue using Outlook for Windows and want your information 
to be automatically synchronized to your Mac, then install the iCloud Control 
Panel on your Windows computer and configure it for use with Outlook for 
Windows.  Apple continues to update and improve this control panel so it works 
very well.  

If, however, you merely want to move your various items from Outlook for 
Windows to your Mac, then, simply export the items from Outlook via the File 
menu.  During the export process, you will be given several export formats from 
which to choose.  If memory serves, the "comma separated value" format should 
suffice.  After exporting the items into a file, you can then use the import 
option from within the Contacts application, on your Mac, to complete the move.

Of course, it stands to reason that you could install and configure the iCloud 
Control Panel on your Windows PC, synchronized the desired items to iCloud, 
then uninstall the control panel.  This method would eliminate the 
export/import procedure, altogether.

Please keep in mind that I am only describing the broad strokes of how you may 
accomplish your objective.  

I strongly suggest that you perform a Google search as doing so will result in 
providing the steps to almost any scenario.  

Good Luck,

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anita
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 2:14 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Importing Address Books.

Hi List,
What is the process for importing address books from Outlook and OE Express 
into my Contacts  on MacBooks? 
Thanks,
Anita 
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RE: Removing Google Voice from an iPhone

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jenine,

It's been a while since I deactivated Google Voice and/or Google Voice mail 
from either my iOS or Android devices but I am certain that the gear that is 
referred to in the Google Voice documentation is referring to the gear located 
near the upper right corner of the website as seen from a Desktop computer.  
You must click/activate the gear in order to reveal more options said options 
including the Settings area of Google Voice.  

>From memory, I recall having to enter my carrier providers local voicemail 
>telephone number back into my phone in order to restore normal service.  I am 
>not certain if this step is still required as their have been many advances in 
>OS configuration protocols since last I worked with Google Voice in this area.

Worst case scenario, you will need to call Verizon Wireless and ask them to 
give you the telephone number to your local voicemail access point.

Good Luck,

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:02 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Removing Google Voice from an iPhone

Apologies if this is off topic. 

I am trying to deactivate the Google Voice service on my iPhone and the help 
from Google mentions a Gear icon at the upper right of the screen. I’m assuming 
they mean on the phone but no such icon appears with a VO label. 

Does anyone have any way to do this? My carrier is Verizon and I just want to 
get back to my carrier voice mail. 

Google Voice was fine for a time but for some reason it’s not passing the 
voicemails through unless I go to the web site and frankly, I’m tired of it. 

Any help is hugely appreciated. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



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How to Resolve Keychain Error 25320

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Hello Everyone,

The following comes to us courtesy of SimpleHelp.com

While I have not experienced this error, personally, I thought I'd post it
to the list just in case you come across it.

Mark

How to Resolve Keychain Error 25320 
Posted: 15 Jun 2015 03:00 AM PDT

This very brief tutorial will show you how to fix the error:  "Access to
this item is restricted. (-25320)" you may receive when trying to access
secure information in Keychain on your Mac. 
 
There are two solutions - one is to try and run a quick "repair" - the other
is to simply reboot. 

1.
The error typically shows itself when you try to access something secure
within your Keychain - like a password.
 
2.
The error message itself, in a very un-Mac-like fashion, is completely
cryptic with no suggestion as to what to do next. 
 
3.
Let's fix it. Select Keychain Access from the Menu Bar, and then Keychain
First Aid 

4.
First enter your password, then select Repair (skip Verify) and finally,
Start. 
 
5.
If the Keychain First Aid tool finds any errors, it will report and then fix
them. At this point, you should have no problem using Keychain again. 
If the Keychain First Aid tool does not find any errors, it will report "No
problems found" before the last line, Repair completed. Proceed with the
next step. 
 
6.
Close all open Apps (saving work when appropriate) and reboot your Mac. When
it starts again, you'll be able to access Keychain without any problems.

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Turn Twitter Power Into Your Power And Get Things Done

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Thanks to my trusty Smartphone app, in conjunction with my favorite web
browser, I have resolved several issues with companies with whom I do
business including Samsung, AT&T, Apple, my local water company, one of my
banking services, a local restaurant chain, a grocery store, and a shopping
facility (just to name a few) via Twitter.

I am convinced that my issues would not have so quickly been resolved via
any other channel.  

In one instance, for example, I Tweeted a problem at approximately 11:55pm,
that had previously gone unanswered via traditional channels including email
and telephone, and received a response within 10 minutes.  Time of day
notwithstanding, this was not an isolated response time.

So, I want to encourage anyone who is trying to reach a particular developer
of an app, or has questions about a product or service, technology related
or not,  to strongly consider using the power of  Twitter to make your voice
herd or to simply make contact.

Turn Twitter power into your power and get things done.

Mark

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RE: Mail issues in Yosemite

[M. Taylor]

Hello Brian,

1.
The issue of having your threads not being deleted quickly may be a problem 
specific to your computer.  I use mail every day, in conversation view, to 
delete hundreds and hundreds of thread, with gMail accounts, exchange accounts, 
and custom server accounts and do not experience the deletion lag that you 
describe.  I am using a mid 2014 MacBook Pro with Retina Display.  I do not use 
mail with any POP3 accounts, however.

>From time-to-time, I do notice a one or two second delay when deleting threads 
>but this is because of the various remote servers, generally speaking, or 
>because my home WiFi band with is being used for something else, such as 
>streaming a video.  

Have you tried rebooting your entire home WiFi network?

2.
As for the list of senders being read before the subject line of a thread, as 
yet, I know of no workaround.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mail issues in Yosemite

So I finally updated my old 2010 iMac to Yosemite, and have been running 
Yosemite on my laptop for awhile, but I do not use my laptop so I guess I did 
not notice this as much. Is there anyway to fix or find a better work around 
for the issue of quickly reading mail in threads as half the time I hit delete 
on a message in a thread and the message just stays there instead of 
automatically going to the next message I have to close the thread then open it 
again to get to the next unread mail message. Sometimes reading in threads 
works, but most of the time it does not making using mail in thread 
conversation quite annoying. Also did anyone find any setting to stop having 
everyones email read to you on email thread topics before the subject? Thanks,

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RE: Mail issues in Yosemite

[M. Taylor]

Hello Brian,

After making certain you have a good backup of your system, I suggest you:

1.
Delete all of your mail server settings. And then reconfigure them from 
scratch.  Rarely acknowledged by Apple, it is possible to use several different 
server addresses and settings to retrieve iCloud mail.  This is because of 
Apple's little known legacy policy.  I personally, last year experienced iCloud 
slow-down because I was using what was effectively outdated server settings in 
MS Outlook.  While I don't think this is the case, in your current situation, 
it never hurts to be sure.

2.
Reset the system PRAM.  To reset the PRAM, power on the Mac while pressing 
Option+Command+R+P until the startup chime is heard, twice.  It may be 
necessary to perform this several times until you are successful.  It can be 
tricky.  

3.
Rebuild your entire Mail database.  This can be achieved from within the Mail 
application menu system.

4.
If all else fails, simply create a new user account on your Mac and, while 
logged into that new user account, configure an iCloud email account in Mail 
and see if you continue to experience any lag time.

Good Luck,

Mark
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:43 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mail issues in Yosemite

Thanks for the feedback. Strange as most of my mail is me.com mail so there 
should not be a server lag, and the lag is happening on both an iMac 2010 and a 
Mac Air 2012 and on different wifi networks so it is not a wifi issue. Not sure 
what it could be all I know is it makes thread emailing viewing basically 
useless as half the time I have to close the thread then reopen to get to the 
next message, just another very annoying VoiceOVer issue that will hopefully be 
fixed in the next update.
> On Jun 20, 2015, at 10:49 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Brian,
> 
> 1.
> The issue of having your threads not being deleted quickly may be a problem 
> specific to your computer.  I use mail every day, in conversation view, to 
> delete hundreds and hundreds of thread, with gMail accounts, exchange 
> accounts, and custom server accounts and do not experience the deletion lag 
> that you describe.  I am using a mid 2014 MacBook Pro with Retina Display.  I 
> do not use mail with any POP3 accounts, however.
> 
> From time-to-time, I do notice a one or two second delay when deleting 
> threads but this is because of the various remote servers, generally 
> speaking, or because my home WiFi band with is being used for something else, 
> such as streaming a video.  
> 
> Have you tried rebooting your entire home WiFi network?
> 
> 2.
> As for the list of senders being read before the subject line of a thread, as 
> yet, I know of no workaround.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:41 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mail issues in Yosemite
> 
> So I finally updated my old 2010 iMac to Yosemite, and have been running 
> Yosemite on my laptop for awhile, but I do not use my laptop so I guess I did 
> not notice this as much. Is there anyway to fix or find a better work around 
> for the issue of quickly reading mail in threads as half the time I hit 
> delete on a message in a thread and the message just stays there instead of 
> automatically going to the next message I have to close the thread then open 
> it again to get to the next unread mail message. Sometimes reading in threads 
> works, but most of the time it does not making using mail in thread 
> conversation quite annoying. Also did anyone find any setting to stop having 
> everyones email read to you on email thread topics before the subject? Thanks,
> 
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RE: Building a website, what's the best way?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Nancy,

First, bravo to you for considering creating your own website.  

Second, In my opinion, your question demands a comprehensive answer that will 
depend upon several factors that I don't believe can be adequately addressed on 
a support mailing list such as this one.  

So, I suggest that you take your time and research this project thoroughly 
before committing to any one path.  While Google is a marvelous resource for 
collecting facts, I think that the best approach, all things being equal, is to 
find someone you trust, preferably with an up-and-running website or BLOG, and 
discuss your ultimate goal with that person or persons.

The person you select, with which to consult, should ask you a great many 
questions in order to provide the best solution.  In my opinion, she/he should 
ask questions such as:

1.
What is the genral purpose of the site?
2.
Do you want to have complete control of the site? or will you be sharing access 
with someone.
3.
Are you willing to have an ad-sponsored site?
4.
Do you personally want to maintain the site or do you want someone else to 
maintain it on your behalf?
5.
Will you be uploading static or dynamic content to the site?
6.
Approximately how often do you think you will be updating the site's content? 
7.
Are you interested in having an ongoing online conversation with the visitors 
to your site?
8.
Will you be selling or receiving payment for items or services on your site?
9.
What is your level of comfort when dealing with online websites and/or social 
media?
10.
What kind of budget, if any, do you have?
11.
Do you have any programming experience?  Nancy, just so you know, one does not 
need to have any programming experience in order to create or maintain a 
successful site, these days, however, your answer will help focus more 
accurately on the proper solution for your purpose.
12.
How much time do you have to dedicate to the maintenance of the site?
13.
Do you want email addresses to be associated with your site via domain name?  
For example, if your website/BLOG is called Widgets.com, would you want an 
email address such as na...@widgets.com?
14.
What is your preferred operating system?
15.
With regard to accessing the web, do you use a screen reader, screen magnifier, 
or both?

Your consultant will also take the time to explain the difference between 
hosted and unhosted services.

Beware of anyone who tries to immediately sell you anything as opposed to 
taking the time to explain why a particular solution is best for you.  All 
things being equal, your consultant will offer at least two paths to achieving 
your goal.  One of these paths should be a do-it-yourself solution, should you 
feel up to it.

The only  domain registrar I trust is Network Solutions.  Whatever happens, do 
not allow anyone but you to register your domain name.  Some web hosting 
solutions offer to include such registration in your various packages but I 
strongly recommend against this.

Nancy, please keep in mind that this is just my opinion as to how best to 
proceed.

Again, bravo on your endeavor and I look forward to visiting your new site.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Nancy Badger
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:30 PM
To: 
Subject: Building a website, what's the best way?

Hi,
I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. 
I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a   domain name. How 
do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are 
there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide.
Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone 
with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

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RE: Building a website, what's the best way?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Tyler and thank you for your kind words.

You may use any part of my post as you wish.

Again, thank you.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 7:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello:
I love the outline, thanks a lot for providing that here. You're right in that 
a lot of these questions should be answered to get a full picture of the site. 
It's really hard to answer the "how do I build a site" question, so I've always 
tried to give a general overview. Would you mind much if I stole the list? I'd 
like to write up an article because I see this question asked so many times and 
I always end up sitting down to write out a long email.

I'm going to stand with you on not letting companies register your domain. I 
highly recommend namecheap (It's independant since I'm not currently with a 
hosting company--I run my own dedicated server). The web interface is 
accessible and support is great. I was a little frustrated with them for 
something that happened with ICan, but they gave me discounts and did their 
best to make things better.

On 6/22/2015 10:01 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello Nancy,
> 
> First, bravo to you for considering creating your own website.
> 
> Second, In my opinion, your question demands a comprehensive answer 
> that will depend upon several factors that I don't believe can be 
> adequately addressed on a support mailing list such as this one.
> 
> So, I suggest that you take your time and research this project 
> thoroughly before committing to any one path.  While Google is a 
> marvelous resource for collecting facts, I think that the best 
> approach, all things being equal, is to find someone you trust, 
> preferably with an up-and-running website or BLOG, and discuss your 
> ultimate goal with that person or persons.
> 
> The person you select, with which to consult, should ask you a great 
> many questions in order to provide the best solution.  In my opinion, 
> she/he should ask questions such as:
> 
> 1. What is the genral purpose of the site? 2. Do you want to have 
> complete control of the site? or will you be sharing access with 
> someone. 3. Are you willing to have an ad-sponsored site? 4. Do you 
> personally want to maintain the site or do you want someone else to 
> maintain it on your behalf? 5. Will you be uploading static or dynamic 
> content to the site? 6. Approximately how often do you think you will 
> be updating the site's content? 7. Are you interested in having an 
> ongoing online conversation with the visitors to your site? 8. Will 
> you be selling or receiving payment for items or services on your 
> site? 9. What is your level of comfort when dealing with online 
> websites and/or social media? 10.
> What kind of budget, if any, do you have? 11. Do you have any 
> programming experience?  Nancy, just so you know, one does not need to 
> have any programming experience in order to create or maintain a 
> successful site, these days, however, your answer will help focus more 
> accurately on the proper solution for your purpose. 12. How much time 
> do you have to dedicate to the maintenance of the site?
> 13. Do you want email addresses to be associated with your site via 
> domain name?  For example, if your website/BLOG is called Widgets.com, 
> would you want an email address such as na...@widgets.com? 14. What is 
> your preferred operating system?
> 15. With regard to accessing the web, do you use a screen reader, 
> screen magnifier, or both?
> 
> Your consultant will also take the time to explain the difference 
> between hosted and unhosted services.
> 
> Beware of anyone who tries to immediately sell you anything as opposed 
> to taking the time to explain why a particular solution is best for 
> you.  All things being equal, your consultant will offer at least two 
> paths to achieving your goal.  One of these paths should be a 
> do-it-yourself solution, should you feel up to it.
> 
> The only  domain registrar I trust is Network Solutions.  Whatever 
> happens, do not allow anyone but you to register your domain name.
> Some web hosting solutions offer to include such registration in your 
> various packages but I strongly recommend against this.
> 
> Nancy, please keep in mind that this is just my opinion as to how best 
> to proceed.
> 
> Again, bravo on your endeavor and I look forward to visiting your new 
> site.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups

How to Block Facebook Game Requests

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

The following comes to us courtesy of SimpleHelp, as many of us are Facebook
subscribers, I thought I would post it on list.

Please keep in mind that the steps listed below were written for sighted
users.

Mark

How to Block Facebook Game Requests 

You either love them or you. don't. If you don't, this quick overview will
explain how to Block requests for Facebook Games (and/or Apps). 
 
Facebook Games and Apps often entice users into inviting all of their
friends to "participate" as well, frequently by offering "rewards" within
the game/app itself. So even your most well-meaning friends may give into
temptation and send you a game request. This brief guide will take you step
by step through the ways to block those requests. 

1.
There are two ways to block Facebook Game or App requests - wait until you
get one, or pro-actively add some of the most popular ones. We'll show you
how to do both. 
When do you receive a request to play a game, click it (which seems like the
last thing you'd want to do, but trust us on this one). 
 
2.
You'll be presented with a confirmation screen, which will vary in look
based on the game. Regardless, as soon as that screen appears, click the
Cancel button. 
 
3.
After clicking Cancel, Facebook will redirect you to that games "Page". On
this Page, click the "3 dot button" ( . . . ) located on the far right side
of the "Cover photo" (see screenshot below). 
 
4.
A 'drop-down' menu will appear. From that menu, click Block App 
 
5.
Another confirmation window will appear. Review it and click Confirm 
 
6.
That's it! No one will be able to send you "requests" to play that specific
Game or App ever again. 

The other way to block Facebook game requests is to manually add them. Click
here (opens in a new window/tab) to visit your Facebook Blocking Settings.
Scroll down the Blocking page until you locate the section titled Block apps

 
7.
In the space provided, you can type in Game (and App) names that you want to
block. As you start typing, a list of Games/Apps will begin to appear.
Select the game you want to block from that list. 
 
8.
As of May 2015, the following list contains the 10 most-played games on
Facebook (source). If you manually type in each game (or copy and paste)
you'll have a good start on pre-emptively blocking the most popular games. 
Candy Crush Saga
Candy Crush Soda Saga
Clash of Clans
Farm Heroes Saga
8 Ball Pool
Hay Day
Criminal Case
Trivia Crack
Pet Rescue Saga
Bubble Witch 2 Saga 
 
9.
If you're reading this guide well after May 2015, you may want to run a
Google Search for the phrase most popular Facebook games and find a more
recent list of current popular games. 


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RE: iTunes playlist woes AGAIN!!!

[M. Taylor]

Hello Donna,

I am so sorry for the Play List problems you are experiencing.  

Are you absolutely certain you are syncing your iOS devices to the correct 
iTunes Library?  

Also, can you try to create a short new playlist in iTunes and see if it 
correctly syncs to your iOS device?  If it syncs correctly, this will help 
focus on a possible cause.

Mark


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes playlist woes AGAIN!!!

Hi all,

For some reason, my iPod is retaining an older order of one of my playlists.  
All the songs are there, but it insists on using an older play order.  I've 
checked it in iTunes on my Mac, and the order is the way I want it.  I've 
actually sat down with my iPod and manually arranged the songs to play in the 
desired order.  But the minute I hook my iPod up to my stereo, which also means 
to power, it immediately reverts to the old order.  I swear I'm so tired of 
this, I'm honestly thinking of switching to Android, where you at least have 
direct access to your music folders.  Is there anything I can do to solve this?
TIA,
Donna

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RE: apple care

[M. Taylor]

Hello May,

I am so sorry to hear about your poor Mac.

You can check the status of your Apple Care coverage at:
http://supportprofile.apple.com

I wish you all the best.

Mark 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of May McDonald Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 1:52 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvoiceo...@freelists.org
Subject: apple care

Hey everyone. Hopefully someone can answer my question. I'm so frustrated right 
now that I can't think straight.

Is there a place where I can go see if my mac is covered under apple care if 
it's killed by water?

My poor mac was just drowned in rain thanks to mother nature and soaking pretty 
much everything with blowing wind and loads of rain while I was out for lunch.

Sadly I can't call apple to ask them due to the fact it's a holiday here in 
Canada, grrr!!


May and LD Luna Moon!
www.canadianlynx.ca
m...@canadianlynx.ca

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Beware of Phishing Scams Targeting Apple Customers

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Just a quick reminder to always be vigilant in your defense against phishing
scams, especially those targeting Apple customers.

The following is one such scam I received to one of my Inboxes.

Good Luck and Don't Be Fooled,

Mark

Subject:
Your Account Apple has been frozen

[Begin Text]
Dears ,

We just need to verify that this email address belongs to you. Simply click
the link below and sign in using your Apple ID and password.

verify Now >

Wondering why you got this email?
It's sent when someone adds or changes a contact email address for an Apple
ID account. If you didn't do this, don't worry. Your email address cannot be
used as a contact address for an Apple ID without your verification.

For more information, see our frequently asked questions.

Thanks,
Apple Customer Support

TM and copyright © 2014 Apple Inc. 1 Infinite Loop, MS 96-DM, Cupertino, CA
95014.
All Rights Reserved / Keep Informed / Privacy Policy / My Apple ID [End
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RE: Need a bluetooth headset for my iphone 6, Plantronics, jabra or what???

[M. Taylor]

Hello Ramy,

If you used the Jabra Extreme 2, as I did, you are definitely going to want to 
get the Plantronics Edge single-ear Bluetooth device.  

Below I will paste in the contents from a previous thread on this subject.

Take it from me, you cannot go wrong with the new Plantronics Edge.

Mark,

-Original Message-
From: viph...@googlegroups.com [mailto:viph...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 12:23 AM
To: viph...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I Strongly Recommend The Plantronics Voyager Edge Bluetooth 
Single-Ear Headset

Hi Sieghard,  

To answer your question, "Yes", there is a Play/Pause button that allows 
starting and stopping of streaming audio.  In fact, one of the reasons why I 
decided to purchase a new Bluetooth headset is because my Jabra Extreme 2 lacks 
such a button.  

The Play/Pause button is referred to as the Voice button in the Edge user 
manual and is located on the arm of the boom mike.  

When the proximity sensors are enabled, merely placing the Edge in your ear 
will automatically cause streaming to be routed to it while removing it from 
your ear will automatically send audio streaming back to the iOS device.  The 
same is true when on a call. 

Take it from me, this is one world-class device.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viph...@googlegroups.com [mailto:viph...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 9:20 PM
To: viph...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I Strongly Recommend The Plantronics Voyager Edge Bluetooth 
Single-Ear Headset

Mark,

Is there a Play/Pause button which would allow you to pause and resume playback 
with apps like Audible, Downcast and so on? I have a Jabra Supreme and like it 
even though it's not exactly small, but I would never buy another bluetooth 
earpiece which didn't offer the ability to play/pause what I might be listening 
to as I am walking around at home or out and about.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viph...@googlegroups.com [mailto:viph...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 2:35 PM
To: viph...@googlegroups.com
Subject: I Strongly Recommend The Plantronics Voyager Edge Bluetooth Single-Ear 
Headset

Hello Everyone,

After all of the comments regarding the Voyager Legend headset, I decided to 
purchase a new Bluetooth headset, also.  

Because of a couple of things I don't like about the Legend, for example the 
proprietary charging connection, I decided to go with the Voyager Edge.  

I love this device.  It is absolutely the most comfortable and responsive 
Bluetooth device I've owned, to date.  I have owned and used no fewer than
18 Bluetooth headset devices since 2007.  The Edge builds on the Legend's 
outstanding performance but returns to some industry standard protocols, for 
example, the original charging cable connection.  Like the Legend, it does have 
a hardware on and off button.  

What I really like about the Edge is that one can disable some of the features 
of the device, for instance, the auto Answer/Reject prompts.  There have been 
many times when I was talking to someone when a call came in and the headset, 
not a Plantronics, would automatically interpret my last spoken word as answer. 
 

Below I am pasting in a short cNet review of the Edge at the bottom of which 
you will find the URL to the review, itself.

Please note that the review was written almost a year ago.  The reason I 
mention this is that it states that the Edge cannot get 7 hours of talk time, 
as can the Legend.  However, this is no longer true.  The unit I just purchased 
gets over 7 hours of talk time.

Also, the Edge now ships with an over-the-ear loop and soft ear-jell tips.

In short, I would strongly recommend anyone who is in the market for a high 
performance blindness-friendly single-ear Bluetooth headset device consider the 
Voyager Edge.

Mark


cNet Review:
The Good The Plantronics Voyager Edge packs outstanding call quality and noise 
cancellation. The headset is also light, comfortable to wear, and compact for a 
boom-style device. The Edge comes with a handy battery case for protection and 
charging on the go.

The Bad The Voyager Edge's ear tips don't form a tight audio seal and take some 
fiddling to position properly.

The Bottom Line The Plantronics Voyager Edge's impressive hands-free call 
quality and sleek size makes it a smarter buy than the fashionable Jawbone Era.

Equipped with support for multiple languages, aggressive noise cancellation and 
a host of other advanced communication skills, the $129.99 Voyager Edge 
represents Plantronics' latest stab at a high-tech tool for mobile voice chat. 
It sits alongside the company's popular Voyager Legend ($99.99), another 
premium hands-free product. Additionally, the Edge replaces the Discovery 975SE 
which was crafted to be as sleek as possible without sacrifici

RE: Problem With Updates on Latest Version of ITunes ...

[M. Taylor]

Hello Eileen,

While I have not yet encountered your particular problem, I have experienced 
update or component level installation problems with iTunes for Windows.  

Unless you have signed up for the new Music streaming service, there is really 
no difference between the current version of iTunes for Windows and the 
previous version.  

However, if you just want to have the latest version, simply create a restore 
point on your PC, before installing, just as a precaution, then go ahead and 
update to the latest version again.

The error message that you are receiving when manually checking for updates in 
no way effects the usability or integrity of iTunes.  

It may, as you state, be a glitch in the program, if so, it is one that Apple 
is not going to admit unless or until there is a fix or unless thousands 
complain publically on the web.  

 As I am certain Apple has already told you, for the best installation 
experience, make sure that the current version of iTunes is closed before 
installing the next version.  

Whenever I encounter an unexpected error in iTunes for Windows, the absolute 
first thing I do is perform a Google search on the web for similar instances.  
I have almost always been rewarded by others confirming my issue.

Good luck and let us know what happens, should you decide to update a second 
time.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 5:49 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problem With Updates on Latest Version of ITunes ...

Hi, 
 
I’m running ITunes on my Win 8.1 64B computer and when I installed the update 
last week to ITunes, it downloaded and installed fine.  The problem is that in 
the latest ITunes version , when I go to the ITunes help menu and do a “check 
for updates” I get the following dialog/error message every time:
 
“The ITunes update server could not be contacted. Please check your internet 
connection or try again later.” 
 
My internet connection is working perfectly fine.  I’ve run diagnostics under 
ITunes help as well and it comes back with everything in working order.  I 
called Apple Accessibility and I did with tech support uninstall ITunes (all 
associated programs in the correct order) and then re-downloaded & re-installed 
ITunes.  What is weird is that this time when I started up ITunes it appears 
that it has gone back to a previous version and wants me to again download and 
install ITunes.  I don’t want to do it since once I get the latest version 
running, I’m worried that its going to return to saying I cannot connect to 
their update server.  So, has anyone else experienced this or have any ideas on 
the correct fix for it?  I’m worried that I’m waiting on Apple to put in a fix 
for ITunes for Windows.  Yes, I have a Mac laptop, but my comfort is still with 
Windows and its where I do my backups, etc.  Yes, I have a working copy of 
ITunes, but why shouldn’t I be able to install the most up-to-date without 
problems??
 
I posted this question to the other list I’m subscribed to the other day, and 
no one had any information that could help. 
 
Thanks for any definitive help.
Eileen
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RE: Mac mail issue under Yosemite

[M. Taylor]

Hello Graham,

Unfortunately, I have encountered this issue in the past, although not for 
quite some time.  

This seems to happen more to gMail accounts than to any other but I have herd 
of it on other servers, as well.

Personally, when this happens to me, I open my trusty version of Outlook on my 
Windows PC and then delete the stubborn messages as Outlook does not seem to 
have this problem with any servers of which I am aware.

However, I realize that this is most likely not an option for you so I have two 
suggestions:

Of course, I am assuming that you have rebooted your Mac and have attempted to 
rebuild the Mailboxes.

1.
Make certain that you have a stable Wifi connection and that you give the Mail 
application plenty of time to move all of the messages to the Trash folder 
before closing it.

2.
Log into your actual server account, via your favorite web browser, and delete 
the stubborn messages, manually.  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 12:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mac mail issue under Yosemite

Hi, 

Since upgrading to Yosemite, I’m encountering an odd issue in Apple Mail. 

When I go in to the mail program, I keep getting the odd msg that I’ve deleted 
over and over again. Its always the same few msgs that seem to be determined 
not to be deleted. 
Has anyone else come across this issue and did you sort the issue? if so how? 

Thanks in advance for any help thrown my way. 

Best

Graham

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RE: how to copy contacts from one account to another?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Joe,

If you Google this, you will find that there are two basic ways to accomplish 
your goal.  

The first method is to use your web browser to log into your gMail account and 
export your Contacts List as a vCard file; then, log into your iCloud account 
and import that file.  As there are hundreds and hundreds of easy to follow 
step-by-step articles on this, I will not list them here.  

The second method, which is the one I use, when moving people from an Android 
device to an iPhone, is to attach the vCard file that was created when 
exporting from gMail, to an email and send that email to the device to which I 
want to import the Contacts.

In short, if you open a vCard attached file on an iPhone, and presumably in the 
Mail application on the Mac although I have not personally done so, a dialog 
box appears asking if you want to add the list of Contacts to your Contacts 
list.  Simply confirm this option and you're done.

Good Luck,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 9:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: how to copy contacts from one account to another?

I've got contacts that I accidentally created under my gmail account, but want 
to transfer them to my iclouth account, without having to reenter everything 
into the contacts app under my icloud account. I'm sure there's a way to do 
this, but how? :)

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RE: creating EPUB documents

[M. Taylor]

Hello Phil,

I have never used Pages to create ePub documents.  

I currently have two novels published in the iBooks store and the application I 
use and strongly recommend, on the Mac that is, is an application called 
Storyist.

Over the years I have worked with the developer and he has made the application 
VoiceOver accessible.  

Storyist may be more than you need but I wanted to post the link and a 
description here on the list for anyone who may be in the market for a high 
performance publishing application that is VoiceOver accessible.

Description:

Produce submission-ready manuscripts and screenplays
Storyist provides a rich text editor with support for comments, images, 
headers, footers, and style sheets so you can create properly formatted 
manuscripts and screenplays. And Storyist comes with manuscript and screenplay 
templates so you can focus on the writing, not the formatting.

Get a high-level view of your story
Storyist lets you sketch out a story using index cards and then refine it with 
customizable plot, character, and setting sheets. When you're ready to put 
words on the page, Storyist can even display your index cards next to your 
manuscript as you write.

Keep all your writing organized and accessible
Storyist organizes your novel manuscripts, screenplays, research, and other 
project-related writing and can store them in the cloud so you can access them 
quickly wherever you are.
  
http://storyist.com

Good Luck,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 7:17 PM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: creating EPUB documents

I want to be able to create ePub docs with chapter navigation for reading in 
VoiceDream reader. Is Pages the easiest way? Here’s what I’ve tried:
1   I loaded a text doc into pages and assigned heading style to various 
chapter titles.
2   I inserted a table of contents at the top of the doc from the insert 
menu, selecting the doc type from the submenu.
3   I exported the doc as type “epub”.
4   I loaded the ePub doc into VoiceDream reader, and it worked. I could 
navigate the doc by chapter title.

Is this all there is to it? How about multi-level TOC entries, would they all 
still navigate by chapter navigation?
That is, if I wanted to be able to move by sections, and then by chapters 
within sections, can that be done with a multi-level TOC exported to ePub?

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RE: Installing the OS X beta on a secondary partition.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Sadam,

There are many ways to accomplish your goal.

I will simply give you the broad strokes that I personally use and that 
hopefully you find useful.

1.
Either create a new partition on your existing internal hard drive or, and this 
is what I would recommend, purchase an external USB 2.0, 3.0, or Apple 
Thunderbolt drive with plenty of disk space.  Understand that I am not 
referring to a USB Thumb drive/key but an actual external hard drive.  

2.
Clone your existing primary boot-up partition using a third-party application.  
I strongly recommend Super Duper.  Doing this will allow you to boot up from 
either partition be it on your original internal partition or any 
secondary/external partition.  Note, it is best to give each partition a very 
distinguishable name so as not to become confused when making the Startup disk 
selection. 

3.
Making certain you have booted-up and are using the partition to which you wish 
to install a beta, in Safari, go to http://beta.apple.com and follow the 
prompts.

Good Luck,

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 7:16 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Installing the OS X beta on a secondary partition.

Greetings to all, 

I would like to install the currnet OS X beta on a secondary partition. 

If someone could provide the steps on how to accomplish this it would be 
greatly appreciated. 

Thanks and kindest regards,  

Sadam Ahmed 

Diploma of International Business candidate 

RMIT University 

Blog: 

Http://www.SadamAhmed.com 

Sent using OS X Mail 




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Here Are Two Ways of Disabling The Built-in Trackpad on your MacBook Computer

[M. Taylor]

Hello All, 

There are some MacBook users who prefer, for whatever reason, to disable the
built-in Trackpad on Their MacBook computers.

The following article describes how to accomplish this.  The first method
requires that you attach a mouse or other pointing device, to your Mac.
However, the second method merely requires the quick toggling of the Mouse
Keys feature.  

Even though the article was written back in 2008, the methods described work
just fine in the latest version of Yosemite.  I have tested them.

Just keep in mind that the options, described in the article, are located in
the Accessibility Preferences area of Yosemite.

The link to the original article is located at the bottom of the text.

Enjoy,

Mark

Disable trackpad for extended typing sessions
By Rob Griffiths, MacworldOct 21, 2008 11:07 AM

If you use a Mac laptop with a trackpad, and spend quite a bit of time
typing on it-perhaps you're a writer for a Mac-related Web site or
something-you're probably well aware of what I consider to be one of the
most-important settings in OS X: the "Ignore accidental trackpad input"
checkbox on the Trackpad tab of the Keyboard & Mouse System Preferences
panel. If you have your trackpad set up to click when tapped-which I do, as
I find it much easier than tapping the button-and you do not enable the
"ignore trackpad" option, you'll find that your cursor (and hence, where
your typing appears) jumps around your document any time your finger or palm
accidentally taps your Mac's trackpad.

With this feature enabled, I've found that the cursor usually remains where
it's supposed to be, even if I accidentally brush the trackpad. That's
usually, not always-sometimes I'll accidentally tap-click after a typing
pause for instance, not notice that I've done so, then resume typing. I
usually only figure out what's happened after I've merged two sentences
together into one jumbled mess.

For those times when you'll be typing a lot of text, and don't want to worry
about the trackpad at all, here are two solutions. The first solution is to
keep a mouse with you, and plug it in when you're ready to start an extended
typing session. Then, in the Trackpad tab of the Keyboard & Mouse System
Preferences panel, check the "Ignore trackpad when mouse is present" box,
and start typing. As long as the mouse is plugged in, that's the only way
you'll be able to move the mouse cursor. (Note that you can still move the
cursor's position within your text editor by using the arrow keys. You just
can't move the onscreen cursor via the trackpad.)

The second solution, and the one I prefer as it doesn't require any extra
hardware to lug around, relies on the Universal Access System Preferences
panel. Open that panel, and switch to the Mouse & Trackpad tab. Check the
box next to "Press the Option key five times to turn Mouse Keys on or off"
to enable Option-key control over the Mouse Keys feature. Next, check the
box next to "Ignore trackpad when Mouse Keys is on." So what have you done?
First, you set the system up so that pressing Option five times in a row
will turn on Mouse Keys, which allows for full cursor control with the
numeric keypad (which is embedded on the 789-UIO-JKL-M keys on a laptop).
Next, you told the system to completely disable the trackpad when Mouse Keys
is enabled. Using these two features together, you can put an end to all
accidental cursor movement while typing.

Try it out by opening TextEdit, and then pressing Option five times in a
row. Just like that, your trackpad will no longer work-you can click and
drag on it at will, but the cursor won't move an inch. Once you've finished
transcribing War & Peace, press the Option key five times in a row again,
and everything will be back to normal. There are two minor downsides to this
technique. First, you won't be able to use the embedded numeric keypad when
in Mouse Keys mode, because those keys are reserved for moving the cursor
around. As with the hardware solution, you can still use the arrow keys to
move the cursor within your document in either normal or trackpad-off modes.
Second, you may forget you've enabled this mode, and wonder why the trackpad
on your laptop no longer works-so remember to try pressing the Option key
five times in a row before resorting to a restart to fix the problem!

Original Article at:
http://www.macworld.com/article/1136275/trackpadoff.html


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RE: Yosemite 10.10.5 and IOS 8.4.1 released

[M. Taylor]

Hello Anne,

I'm so glad you got everything sorted out.

As for me, even though I've never experienced any difficulties, using 
SuperDuper, I always make a copy of my hard drive before updating the OS.

Mark
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 5:37 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Yosemite 10.10.5 and IOS 8.4.1 released

I did the update to 10.4.1 yesterday and Mail went constantly busy. Having had 
to force quit it, I repaired disk permissions again (I always do that 
immediately after an update), but no joy. I reinitialised the PRAM with no 
success either. So finally I resorted to downloading the combo updater and that 
fixed the problem.
I hate to think how an inexperienced Mac user would deal with this.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 14 Aug 2015, at 23:49, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> They’ve messed up a few times now with supporting each hardware instance, and 
> I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re just on the tail end of that.  That’s 
> especially true if you were using the beta or developer release.  You could 
> of course go into System Preferences, App Store and revert to the stable 
> branch, then try again to get the update.
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RE: Help with Gmail and storage

[M. Taylor]

Hello Brian,

First, let me say that the native Apple mail application works just fine with 
gMail in both Yosemite and in the soon-to-be-released El Capitan operating 
system.

Second, the reason your gMail account reached its storage limit is because of 
the way Google handles message tagging.

There is a lot of information on the web about how Google handles mail, with 
regard to labels but the long and short of it is the following:  

1.
In order to be considered gMail compatible, a mail client must automatically 
move all deleted mail to the Trash folder on the gMail server.  That is to say, 
the message must be labeled as Trash.  Both the latest version of Apple Mail 
and MS Outlook 2010 and older do this.

2.
If your mail client does not do this, then you, as the user, must move unwanted 
messages to the Trash folder, manually from within the Mail client.  For 
example, when I use Office Outlook 2007, instead of simply pressing the Delete 
key on my keyboard, I tap the Applications Key, then select Move To, then 
select Trash.  This only takes about a second longer than just pressing the 
delete key but it must be done if I want gMail to behave as expected.

Okay, okay, getting down to the answer to your question:  

To reclaim your gMail storage space:

1.
Assuming you're in the United States, go to http:// mail.google.com and log 
into your gMail account from your preferred web browser.  

2.
Go to the All Mail Folder.

3.
Select all of the messages.

4.
Activate the Move To Trash Button.  Doing this will "move" all of your messages 
to the Trash folder.  To be more exact, all of the messages will be labeled as 
Trash.

5.
Open the Trash folder.

6.
Empty the Trash folder by clicking the Empty Trash button.

Finally, note that unless you change the default gMail settings, all messages 
labeled Trash will automatically be deleted after 30 days.

Good Luck,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 3:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Help with Gmail and storage

Hey all,

After the debacle that was I believe Mavericks and gmail not playing well 
together I moved everything to Apple mail. I was able to set my gmail account 
to forward everything to my Apple mail and all has been fine since then until 
now. I just found out that my gmail account is now completely full all free 15 
gigs.. So my question to those of you who are still using the gmail website 
with VoiceOver is how with this new look gmail which by the way at first glance 
is awful with VO how do you first delete what is in your inbox and then how in 
the world do you permanently delete old trash mail so it is not taking up 
space. This new look gmail keeps wanting to tell me social stuff and show me 
things from youtube. Very annoying and not very straight forward. Thanks,

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CORRECTION TO: RE: Help with Gmail and storage

[M. Taylor]

I inadvertently typed the word "older", in my previous post to this thread,
when I meant to type "newer".

The corrected version follows:

Mark

Hello Brian,

First, let me say that the native Apple mail application works just fine
with gMail in both Yosemite and in the soon-to-be-released El Capitan
operating system.

Second, the reason your gMail account reached its storage limit is because
of the way Google handles message tagging.

There is a lot of information on the web about how Google handles mail, with
regard to labels but the long and short of it is the following:  

1.
In order to be considered gMail compatible, a mail client must automatically
move all deleted mail to the Trash folder on the gMail server.  That is to
say, the message must be labeled as Trash.  Both the latest version of Apple
Mail and MS Outlook 2010 and newer do this.

2.
If your mail client does not do this, then you, as the user, must move
unwanted messages to the Trash folder, manually from within the Mail client.
For example, when I use Office Outlook 2007, instead of simply pressing the
Delete key on my keyboard, I tap the Applications Key, then select Move To,
then select Trash.  This only takes about a second longer than just pressing
the delete key but it must be done if I want gMail to behave as expected.

Okay, okay, getting down to the answer to your question:  

To reclaim your gMail storage space:

1.
Assuming you're in the United States, go to http:// mail.google.com and log
into your gMail account from your preferred web browser.  

2.
Go to the All Mail Folder.

3.
Select all of the messages.

4.
Activate the Move To Trash Button.  Doing this will "move" all of your
messages to the Trash folder.  To be more exact, all of the messages will be
labeled as Trash.

5.
Open the Trash folder.

6.
Empty the Trash folder by clicking the Empty Trash button.

Finally, note that unless you change the default gMail settings, all
messages labeled Trash will automatically be deleted after 30 days.

Good Luck,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 3:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Help with Gmail and storage

Hey all,

After the debacle that was I believe Mavericks and gmail not playing well
together I moved everything to Apple mail. I was able to set my gmail
account to forward everything to my Apple mail and all has been fine since
then until now. I just found out that my gmail account is now completely
full all free 15 gigs.. So my question to those of you who are still using
the gmail website with VoiceOver is how with this new look gmail which by
the way at first glance is awful with VO how do you first delete what is in
your inbox and then how in the world do you permanently delete old trash
mail so it is not taking up space. This new look gmail keeps wanting to tell
me social stuff and show me things from youtube. Very annoying and not very
straight forward. Thanks,

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How to Create a Windows 10 Flash Drive Installer on a Mac

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I thought some of you would find the following article, by Simple Help, if
not useful, then at least interesting.

Good Luck and Enjoy,

Mark

How to Create a Windows 10 Flash Drive Installer on a Mac 

This quick guide will show you how to create a Windows 10 "bootable" USB
thumb/flash drive from within OS X. 

1.
First up, you'll need a Windows 10 .iso file. This is the exact type of file
that Microsoft provides when you download Windows 10 from them. If you
obtained your copy of Windows 10 elsewhere that's fine, as long as the file
is in the .iso format. 

2.
The other item you'll need is a USB usb flash/thumb drive . Depending on the
version of Windows that you're installing, you may be able use a flash drive
as small as 4GB. The instructions that came with the Windows 10 .iso file
you have will probably tell you. If in doubt, an 8GB drive will suffice for
every version of Windows 10. Please note: this process involves completely
erasing all of the data on that thumb drive, so if you have files on it -
make sure to back them up first, as they will be deleted. 

3.
To create a bootable (installation) Windows 10 USB flash drive we're
actually going to use the Boot Camp Utility App, even though we are not
going to install Windows 10 on your Mac (at least in this tutorial). Launch
it by selecting Applications then Utilities and then double-click Boot Camp
Assistant 
 
4.
Click Continue to move on from the 'Introduction' screen. 
 
5.
Make sure that Create a Windows 7 or later version install disk is selected,
and Install Windows 7 or later version is NOT selected. Then click Continue.

 
6.
Now it's time to select your Windows 10 ISO file. Click the Choose. button. 
 
7.
Navigate to the Windows 10 .iso file, select it by clicking on it once, and
then click the Open button. 
 
8.
Now in the Destination Disk: section select your USB thumb drive. Make sure
to select the correct one - especially if you have other USB drives plugged
into your Mac. Remember, any and all files on this USB flash drive will be
erased, so double-check. Then click Continue. 
 
9.
A scary This drive will be erased confirmation message will appear. Since
you so diligently made sure to select the correct drive in the previous
step, you can click Continue with no fear :) 
 
10.
Now the boring part. This can take a while, you may want to go grab yourself
a coffee or tea. 
 
11.
Towards the end of the process, you'll be prompted to enter your Mac's
password. Do so, then click the Add Helper button. 
 
12.
Click Quit when the final screen appears. 
 
13.
The USB flash drive will now be named WININSTALL (and is safe to eject) -
you're done!

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A Question About Purchasing Descriptive Video Service Enabled Movies from iTunes

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries list. 

Perhaps this has been covered in a past thread but here it goes:  

I would like to purchase a couple of movies via iTunes that I recently saw
in the theater.  In the theater, both of these movies had the descriptive
video service (DVS).  

Now when I browse the iTunes store for these movies, on my phone, the only
accessibility indicator I can find is labeled closed captioning.

Is there anyway to be certain that a iTunes title offers DVS before
purchasing?  

Also, how does one enable DVS audio on either the Apple TV or the Mac?
Should either of these titles have DVS, I fully expect to watch them on my
Apple TV or on my Mac.

AS an F Y I, the two titles I wish to purchase are:  (1) Edge of Tomorrow
(re-released as Live, Die, Repeat) and (2) Inside Out.

Thank you,

Mark

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RE: some i tunes questions

[M. Taylor]

Hello Caitlyn,

Question:
If I delete the current library, and then use my music folder on an external, 
how do I keep it from becoming so huge again?  

Answer:
Before you delete your current Library, I suggest you do a Google search for 
cleaning up iTunes Library using Smart Playlists.  Using a Smart Playlist 
allowed me to prune my Library a couple of years ago.  As for how to keep your 
Library from becoming so large--well, the simplest answer is to not copy the 
music into the Library but, rather, simply allow iTunes to point to the music 
files in their original location.  To do this, based on iTunes 12.x for Windows:
1.
>From the Edit menu, select Preferences.

2.
Select the Advanced Tab.

3.
Uncheck Copy Files to Itunes Media Folder when Adding to Library.

Question:
Also, since I do want to add more music files to the library at times, can I 
just point the i tunes towards the new library on the external drive, then add 
the new files to that folder directly, instead of using the automatically add 
to i tunes folder?

Answer:
Yes.

Good Luck,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 9:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: some i tunes questions

Hi,
I have realized recently that my i tunes library has become quite bloated!

I can go in and delete duplicates by hand, but I know this will be quite time 
consuming.

If I delete the current library, and then use my music folder on an external, 
how do I keep it from becoming so huge again?  Also, since I do want to add 
more music files to the library at times, can I just point the i tunes towards 
the new library on the external drive, then add the new files to that folder 
directly, instead of using the automatically add to i tunes folder?

Hope this isn’t too confusing..
Thanks,
Caitlyn

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MODERATOR NOTE: No On-List Beta Software Discussions, Please

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I hope you are all doing well.

I am assisting Cara in managing this list.

Just to make it official, Cara and I are requesting that there be no on-list
beta software discussions.

Thank you so much for observing this policy.

Mark

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MODERATOR NOTE: An Explanation of Recently Deleted Messages to the List and a Suggestion Regarding List Subscription Requests

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Some of you may have been notified that your unposted messages to the list
were recently deleted or rejected.  

Let me assure you that, unless notified, off-list, by either Cara or me, in
no way have you or are your posts being blocked from the list.

The simple truth of the matter is that Google, for whatever reason, tags
some posts to the list as spam or other unwanted material and places them in
a queue for review by a moderator.

As I only recently began assisting Cara in managing the lists, I dumped a
queue of held messages some of which having been held for over a month in
order to wipe the proverbial slate clean, making management tasks a little
easier.

Please accept my apology if you received such a notice and know that it was
merely a matter of some proverbial house cleaning, nothing more.

I would like to suggest that if you post a message to the list and it does
not appear within 24 hours, to please write to Cara and me, off-list, making
us aware of the problem so we can go into the queue and find it for you.  My
direct email address is:  mk...@ucla.edu 

I am aware that some people have encountered difficulty in subscribing to
the list or changing email address info, etc.  Please remember that the best
way to insure that your list subscription requests get processed is to write
a short explanation as to why you want to join or change your list info.  

A list subscription request containing at least one sentence, in addition to
an email address, is far more likely to be approved than one containing an
email address, only.

If you feel as though your list subscription email requests have been
overlooked, please send a direct email to Cara and me.

Thank you all for taking the time to read this and I look forward to serving
you as a list moderator.  

Most Sincerely,

Mark

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RE: iPhone 6S?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I would ask that this thread be continued on the V iPhone list, okay?  

Thank you,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 6:12 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 6S?

Well, there has been speculation in the tech press the last couple of years 
about getting rid of the home button. If it is true that they don't need it for 
touch ID or for accessing multitasking, why have it? The obvious answer as far 
as we are concerned, is that we use it for triple click home. And so do some 
other folks with disabilities. But if that is the only reason for the home 
button, I predict it's gone. Why keep it question they could have more screen 
real estate if they got rid of it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 14, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I do not see Apple getting
> 
> Regards,rid of the home button on the iOS devices. The physical home 
> button is what many people like about the iPhone. Just my $.02 
> Feliciano For tech tips and updates, LIKE 
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> 
>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I certainly would not see this as an improvement, but it would not at all 
>> surprised me if they got rid of the home button next year. It seems like 
>> this deal with the force touch method of accessing what we now call the app 
>> switcher is a harbinger of the demise of the home button. Let's see if I'm 
>> wrong.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 6:02 AM, sadam.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> They can always find some way of improving the phone. 
>>> 
>>> Remember this device generated $102 billion last quarter. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 14 Sep 2015, at 11:00 pm, Scott Granados  
 wrote:
 
 I don’t know what they can do on the hardware side.  This version is a 
 pretty complete device.  The software has possibilities but you don’t need 
 to sell new hardware for that.
 
 
> On Sep 14, 2015, at 8:56 AM, Terje Strømberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Agree, good uppgrade. Where do we go from here? Still many roads to walk. 
> An iPhone car on battery completely accessible with Voice Over?
> 
> Take care
> 
> 14. sep. 2015 kl. 14:48 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> I really don’t see what they will add after this.  The phone has every 
> thing now.  A really solid radio finally that works on all the networks 
> fully, a nice high end camera, fast 64 bit processor, NFC, where do they 
> go from here?
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, you'll have to let us know what you think!
>> Donna
>>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 9:21 AM, george b  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah,
>>> 
>>> I got it, so I think it is awesome and I already ordered a 6s 
>>> plus
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna 
>>> Goodin
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 06:57
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone 6S?
>>> 
>>> Well, that's certainly true.  I just wondered what the take-aways were 
>>> from thursday's event.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 We really won’t know anything until people actually get their hands on 
 it on the 25th. There are hands-on articles, but those don’t give any 
 indication of how voiceover will work with 3D Touch, naturally.
 
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering what people have heard about the iPhone 6S.  Any 
> worthwhile developments?
> Cheers,
> Donna
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MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

As this is not an iOS forum, I ask that this topic be taken off-list.

Thank you for understanding.

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MODERATOR REQUEST, UPDATE

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

As was just posted to the list, I would have greatly appreciated objections
to my previous request be sent off-list as I think that is the most
courteous.  

Let me make it clear that there is no power trip going on here.

In fact, although I sent an off-list request to a list member asking to
respect the current policy, I did so while I was conversing with the list
owner to confirm the fact that the list members appreciate having this
community to discuss all Apple products.  

Like you, I enjoy having one place to discuss multiple products.  

Please know that my only goal was to maintain the integrity of the list.  

If everyone agrees that this is what they want, then so be it.  

However, I must confirm this with the list owner so please be patient and
know that I am here to serve, not dictate, okay?  

Mark

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MODERATOR NOTE: General List Discussion Policy Update

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,  

You know, one list member wrote to me today saying that it seems as though 
this list goes from one crisis to another.  When I read this, I couldn’t 
help but smile as, sometimes, it does appear that way.  

Well, let’s put this particular crisis to bed, shall we?  

First, let me personally thank those of you who took the time to send your 
objections, words of support, or general comments, to me, off-list.

As so many of us have observed over the years, when it comes to resolving 
on-list conflicts or even policy, off-list communication, combined with a 
little courtesy and patience, is very often more effective than on-list 
knee-jerk reactions.

Second, like many of you, Cara and I have been members of this particular 
community for many years and have found it to be a very warm, dynamic and 
informative community.  

As is the case with any community, conflicts and differences of opinion do 
occur and during such instances, it is important to remember that we are a 
virtual family and that we walk the proverbial accessibility path together.

As with any well functioning forum, there must be policy to guide the flow 
of communication and to preserve the integrity of the environment while 
respecting and encouraging individual input to the extent that such input 
does not attack, harass, or in any way cause another member to feel 
devalued.

That’s asking quite a lot of a policy and to put it bluntly, such a policy 
is never going to please everyone all of the time.  All those of us, 
entrusted with enacting, or in some instances, enforcing policy can do is 
to ask that the members of the family remember that we’re all in this 
together.

Third, while both Cara and I have always considered Mac Visionaries to be a 
Mac OSX-centric forum, with discussions including iOS, Windows, Linux, etc 
as they relate to the Mac, as many of you have pointed out, the lines 
between OSX and iOS have begun to blur.  Therefore, all non-beta 
Apple-related discussions are welcomed on-list.  This is now the current 
policy however I ask you to keep in mind that all policies are subject to 
change, from time-to-time.

Fourth, I ask that you keep in mind that this can sometimes be a very high 
traffic list and that part of the list management responsibility includes 
insuring that the list traffic moves smoothly.  To that end, we may ask 
that a topic either be taken back, on-topic, or closed.  Please respect 
that request and if you have any objections, write to us off-list.

Finally, let me say that it is a privilege to be a member of this family 
and that I look forward to walking this path with you far into the future.

Most Sincerely,

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How To Downgrade iOS 9.1 Public Beta to to Current iOS 9.0 Release Without Losing Any Data

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am delighted to inform you that I just successfully downgraded two iPhones
(a 5 S and a Six Plus) from iOS beta 9.1 back to the currently released iOS
9.0 via iTunes without losing any data or without having to first restore
the phones back to their factory defaults.  It appears as though Apple has
built a new function into the latest version of iTunes that makes this
process simple and painless.  

What a wonderful surprise and convenience for those of us who want to beta
test Apple software while having access to the latest release which, in many
cases, is one version prior to the current beta without having to reset
everything.

The following article, from 9 to 5 Mac, gives the general steps in order to
downgrade, however, the article was written before Apple added this new
functionality into iTunes.  There for, I have modified step 5, reflecting
the new available option.

Just so you know, you must use the latest version of iTunes, which, as of
this post, is v12.3, on a computer in order to perform a non-destructive
downgrade to an earlier, non-beta version of iOS.

Remember, this is for those of us who were running iOS beta 9.1 who want to
downgrade our devices to the currently released and more stable version of
iOS 9.0 without first having to erase the phone.

The link to the original article is located at the end of the text.

Good Luck and Enjoy,

Mark

How To Downgrade iOS 9.1 Public Beta to to Current iOS 9.0 Release Without
Losing Any Data

iOS 9 marked the first major version of the iPhone and iPad software that
Apple opened up for public beta testing after a similar trial run with iOS
8.3 last year. As many users have noticed, Apple's public beta program is
continuing with the upcoming iOS 9.1 release available as an OTA
(over-the-air) update for non-developer testers, but many users will surely
want to hop off the beta train and onto the stable release cycle with
today's iOS 9.0 release.

Several readers have already asked about downgrading from the iOS 9.1 public
beta to today's iOS 9.0 release, and while it's possible it does come at a
cost: potentially losing some important data. If moving from iOS 9.1 public
or even dev beta to today's official iOS 9.0 release is worth it for you,
read on for a detailed guide for doing just that. 

Step 1.
Ensure iCloud Is Backing Up and Syncing

While there doesn't seem to be an official path from iOS 9.1 public beta to
today's iOS 9.0 release that keeps all of your data intact, iCloud is mostly
version-agnostic in that it usually syncs and backs up important data like
contacts and notes for use on older versions of iOS. Using the iOS device
that you plan to downgrade, go to the Settings app then iCloud pane to
ensure important information like Contacts, Reminders, and Notes are all
toggled on if you plan on keeping this information.

  Likely due to privacy concerns, Apple has not enabled syncing data from
the Health and Activity apps through iCloud so expect to lose this
information if downgrading. Backing up to iCloud does preserve Health and
Activity, but you won't be able to restore to iOS 9.0 using your iOS 9.1
backup unfortunately. Still, I recommend creating a full iCloud backup just
in case you have second thoughts after moving down to iOS 9.0 and want to
recover your data with iOS 9.1. While connected to power and on a Wi-Fi
Internet connection, go to Settings > iCloud > Backup and ensure iCloud
Backup is toggled on. Then tap Back Up Now to begin a full backup to iCloud.

Step 2.
Disable Find My iPhone/iPad/iPod touch

While you're in Settings > iCloud, you'll want to disable Activation Lock in
iOS 9.1 to save some time when restoring to iOS 9.0. Do this by going to
Settings > iCloud > Find My iPhone/iPad/iPod touch (depending on which
device you're using) and toggling off Find My iPhone/iPad/iPod touch which
should prompt you for your Apple ID and password used for iCloud.

Note: this may differ from your App Store password if you use a separate
account for iCloud and purchases.

Step 3.
Backup Purchases and Data to iTunes

Now that we have a few safety nets in place, it's time to connect your iOS
device to iTunes on your Mac or PC using your charging cable and put up a
few more before downgrading from iOS 9.1 to iOS 9.0. After plugging in your
iOS device, you may have to give your computer and device permission to
"trust" each other, then click the icon in the top left corner of iTunes for
managing your device.

>From here you can create a local backup to iTunes and transfer any purchases
not already saved to your computer. Even if your device is set to backup to
iCloud, you can still choose to do a manual backup here. If you opt to
encrypt your backup and protect that file with a password, most passwords
from iOS will remain intact if you decide to restore to your iOS 9.1 backup
in the future.

This process may take several minutes, especially if you opt to transfer any
purchases from your iOS device to your Mac or PC usi

RE: authentication issue

[M. Taylor]

Hello Simon,

I don't know if anyone else has responded to your question so I will offer a 
suggestion.

Were I you, the first thing I would do would be to turn off the Bluetooth radio 
on my computer, then restart the Mac and see what happens.  

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 12:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: authentication issue

Hi List,
 
Ok so Saturday night I reimaged my Mac mini with Yosemite,
Now when I start it up I get the message that it’s trying to find Bluetooth 
devices like touch pad or mouse.
 
However when I get rid of this message I get no speech automatically from 
Voiceover  so I turn it off and then on using command f5  and on voiceover 
coming on I hear a message saying authentication  but I have no password field 
or username even to select to enter a password for.
 
Anyone got any suggestions as to what might be happening here?
And a way I can get passed this
 
Cheers for any sugestions.
 
Simon f
 
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RE: a strange change in message view

[M. Taylor]

Hello Ray,

Try as I may, I cannot think of what the problem could be.  How is Safari 
performing on your OS?  

The reason I ask is because the last time I saw such a change in an OS X 
interface was because the person, against my explicit instructions by the way, 
installed some freeware that reeked havoc with her Mac.  In that instance, 
however, Safari was effected, as well.

Mark  

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Ray Foret jr
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 5:58 AM
To: Mac Visionaries List
Subject: a strange change in message view

Ever since last night, when I was having my mail issues and had to try to 
recreate my Comcast Imap account, I find now that all the buttons just to the 
left of the message text area for forwarding, attachments menu and so forth are 
no longer visible.  Pressing VO+left once doesn’t take me to those buttons 
anymore but  instead takes me right straight to the tool bar.  To save 
attachments now, I have to open the file menu and click on the “save 
attachments…” selection.  I prefered having the menu there.  Any ideas?  Just 
in case you were wondering, I’m not using Clasic view, my preview pain appears 
to remain off and I’m running the latest public build of L Capitan.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very happy Mac, Verizon 
Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

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RE: Apple's response re renaming photos

[M. Taylor]

Hello Donna,

I only just began following this thread but my experience is that if I want 
VoiceOver to announce the name/description of any photo in my Photo Library, I 
must first copy the photo to my PC, then, name the photo or give it a 
description from within its properties area.  I think I use the Title tag.  

Now, keep in mind that I do this on a Windows PC but, when I sync the photo 
back to my phone, the title/description is usually read, as I land on the 
photo.  

There are some exceptions, however.  In my case, I have 4 or so photos that 
were taken on my iPhone 3GS.  NO matter how I manipulate the tags, VoiceOver 
will only read the date that the photo was taken.  Again, I'm using a Windows 
PC to do this so cannot speak to the mileage you will get on a Mac.  I suspect 
that tagging the photos in iTunes will be much more successful than by doing so 
using an external application as is the case when using Windows.  

Good Luck,

Mark   

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 11:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's response re renaming photos

Hi Kate,

ET explained why the labels don't sync.  If you do the two-finger double tap, 
your just giving it a new VO label, not actually renaming the photo.

Your approach would probably work, but I'm also going to play around with 
renaming them in iTunes.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 14, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
> wrote:
> 
> I guess the other way to do this would be to up/download the photo or video 
> to your computer one by one, so you know what they are, and then rename them 
> on the mac.
> 
> Also, the custom labels using the double tap with two fingers don’t seem to 
> synch over devices here.  so if I label a pic or vid on my phone, when I put 
> them on the mac, the labels go away, sadly.
> 
> Caitlyn
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>> On Mar 14, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Well, sounds like at this point  there isn't a good way to do this.  I 
>> assume by custom labels Apple means the two-finger double tap, though if 
>> anyone knows differently please let us all know.  Their response is below.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Thank you for your email. At this time, Custom Labels are the best option 
>> for renaming your photos and videos on iOS. We have passed your feedback 
>> along to the appropriate group.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
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RE: Mac Calendar & iCloud

[M. Taylor]

Hello Marc,

Were you able to get this problem resolved?  

Have you, in fact, stopped using the family sharing feature/calendar to see if 
that resolves the issue?

You know, a couple of years ago, I experienced the same problem only it 
happened on my iPhone instead of my Mac.  

If memory serves, I believe the solution was to actually delete my iCloud 
account from my device.  When I did this, I was asked if I also wanted to 
remove all of the Contacts and Calendar events from my device.  I answered in 
the affirmative.  Then, I restarted my device and signed back into iCloud.  
After that, it worked flawlessly.  

It's quite possible that the calendar on your Mac is corrupted in some way and, 
therefore, deleting it will allow iCloud to rebuild the local copy.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Marc
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 8:23 PM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Mac Calendar & iCloud

Latest version of OS X El Capitan
 
I tried searching around the archives but don’t think this has been addressed.
The main problem is this: When I create a new event on the Mac, it is not being 
pushed to iCloud and subsequently to my iPhone. I create the event on the Mac 
and then log into iCloud.com and the event is not there.
 
On the Mac, I am signed into iCloud. The calendar check box is checked in 
system preferences under iCloud and Internet Services. On the Mac, calendar 
receives new events from iCloud if I create them on my iPhone. If I create them 
on the iPhone, the events also appear on iCloud.com. This tells me that I am 
signed into iCloud properly on the iPhone and I believe on the Mac as well 
since I can receive the calendar events.
 
I also noticed that when I create an event in the calendar app on the Mac and 
post to my Google calendar, it will not go to the Internet either. When I 
create a calendar event on the iPhone and select the Google calendar it will 
appear on the Mac and on the online Google calendar.
When a family member creates an event on our shared family calendar it appears 
on both the iPhone and the Mac. However, when I create a calendar event on the 
Mac and try to select the family calendar, it appears on the Mac only and is 
not pushed to the iPhone, the shared family calendar, or the online iCloud. 
 
On the Mac, in the Calendar Sources table, I only have the home, work, and 
family calendars that are directly under iCloud. There does not appear to be 
any local calendars that are “on my Mac.”
I feel like I have read through a million message boards, signed in and out of 
iCloud, toggled on and off calendar in iCloud system preferences, and basically 
pulled out all of my hair. I checked my wi-fi connection and it is fine. It 
seems like a lot of people have the problem but nobody appears to have a 
working solution.
Can anybody shed some light on why events created on my Mac will not appear on 
the iPhone or the iCloud web site? Does anybody know about checking ports on 
the Mac? Could my ISP somehow be blocking something? I read some posts that 
people suggested that the family sharing could be fouling things up. I am way 
beyond warranty, so I cannot call Apple.
Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
 
Thanks
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RE: Us congress hearing of maan alsaan Money laundry قضية الكونغجرس لغسيل الأموال للمليادير معن الصانع

[M. Taylor]

Thank you E.T.

I have suspended the member listed as Sami Kamal's posting privileges.  I would 
have banned him but could not find the option to do so.  Google, from 
time-to-time appears to change the options available to moderators.  

Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused any of you.

Mark  

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 4:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Us congress hearing of maan alsaan Money laundry قضية الكونغجرس 
لغسيل الأموال للمليادير معن الصانع

When will people learn to simply ignore this stuff and give Mark the time 
to deal with it? We do not need reruns.

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ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/15/2016 4:46 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> Not, a freaking gan!
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> *Subject:* Fwd: Us congress hearing of maan alsaan Money laundry
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A Question About Using the BARD App for Reading a Braille Book with a Focus 40 Blue Braille Display

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I recently downloaded a Braille title in the BARD app on my 6 Plus running
the latest version of iOS.  I am using my Focus 40 Blue as the Braille
display.  The firmware on my Focus is v4.59.

My questions are:

1.
Can I jump from page one to page 2 using only the display, itself?  If so,
how?

2.
Is there any way to configure the system so I can use the left Whiz Wheel or
button in order to pan forward?  I read Braille with my right index finger
and having to both transverse the display along with subsequently having to
press a navigation button with the same hand is causing quite a lot of
fatigue.  In short, is it possible to reverse pan?  

Any and all tips and tricks for reading Braille on the Focus 40 in the BARD
app would be greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: something weird with ibooks on ios 9.3

[M. Taylor]

Okay, Because this may effect others, I am going to cross post this.

After reading this thread, I discovered that there appears to be a bug in
iBooks iOS 9.3.

When the Purchases Tab is activated, in iBooks, the display changes to a
list view as follows:

Updates, Books, then Audio Books.

If one selects one of these items, for example Audio Books, a secondary list
view describing categories such as All Books, Recent Purchases, Business,
Fiction, etc is displayed.  

It is this secondary list that is currently inaccessible via VoiceOver.
However, if one disables VoiceOver, then selects one of these secondary list
items, then re-enables VoiceOver, the resulting lists of titles is VoiceOver
accessible.

So, please join me in reporting this bug to Apple.

I hope this helps.

Mark

Original Message:

Hi everyone,
I use ios 9.3 with voiceover speech no zoom. I cant seem to review my
purchased books. I go to my purchases within ibooks and then select books
and then books not on my iphone bu tnothing results while i know books
should be there. Anyone else experiencing this?

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iOS 9.3 Native Camera App Zoom Is Still Not VoiceOver Accessible

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this notice.

To my dismay, I can confirm that the iOS 9.3 native camera app zoom is still
not voiceOver accessible.

This feature has not been VoiceOver accessible since iOS 8.1.3, if memory
serves.  

In order to zoom in on an image, one has to first disable VoiceOver then,
zoom to the desired amount, then, without dismissing the camera app,
re-enable VoiceOver, then take the shot.  

It could be worse, I suppose.  At one time, during one of the beta cycles,
re-enabling VoiceOver actually cancelled the zoom, altogether.

Mark

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RE: Problem with imap gmail on Mac OS

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Hello Paul,

One configuration setting that is crucial to successfully using gMail accounts 
via Apple Mail is that the All Mail folder/Label be displayed in your gMail 
account.  

Please note that this is not the default setting in gMail.

Generally speaking, you can enable this settings via gMail from your preferred 
web browser.  While logged into gMail, open the Settings area.  There will be a 
list of tabs.  In one of these tabs, you will see the options to display 
various folders/labels.  Make certain that the All Mail Label is set to on. For 
good measure, you should probably make certain that the Trash label is set to 
on, as well.

Finally, sign out of gMail.  Reboot your Mac, and you should be good to go.

Good Luck,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:14 AM
To: macvisionaries
Subject: Problem with imap gmail on Mac OS

Hello, 
I am using VoiceOver on my 2008 iMac with El Capitan 10.11.4 and Apple mail to 
create a new Email for my gmail account which is set up as imap. Note that the 
below problem has happened on every El Capitan release and also on every 
Yosemite release. 

SO I start the Apple mail application and press command+n to create a new 
message. I type the message text, and then edit it to correct errors. I then 
send the message. If I then look at the contents of the trash mail box I see 
numerous copies of the above Email. It seems that someone is saving the Email 
after every edit action. This fills up my trash mail box and presumably also 
fills up gmail and consumes network traffic. It also presumably uses needless 
processing power to do all this and thereby slows down my machine. 

Do others see this problem and if so have you found a way to stop this 
behaviour? 

Best regards….

Paul Hopewell 

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iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver

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Hello Everyone,  

I am so delighted to let you know that, as of today's update, the iOS native
Twitter app now supports Twitter Moments via VoiceOver.  To begin enjoying
this extremely exciting new feature of Twitter, on your iOS device:

1.
Update to the latest version of Twitter.

2.
Select the Moments tab located on the bottom row of the display.  

Be certain to explore the entire screen as the Moments area has a slightly
different layout than the rest of the Twitter app.  

Also, I am happy to report that every aspect of Moments is accessible via
the app's soft-buttons and by specific VoiceOver gestures including the
3-finger swipe left, to move through a specific thread, and the
single-finger hold, and swipe up gesture, in order to quickly close a thread
and be returned to the main app.  Also, Moments video playback works
flawlessly.  Just remember that in order to hear the video, you must unmute
the sound via a soft-button located near the upper left corner of the
display.

Give yourself plenty of time to explore this new quick and easy way to stay
up-to-date on what's happening around the world.  

Finally, please join me in thanking the developers of Twitter for making
Moments VoiceOver accessible by sending a tweet to either @support or
@twitter, or by sending an email to supp...@twitter.com or by posting a
comment in the app-review area of iTunes.  

Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy!

Mark

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RE: El Capitan Clean Install

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Hi,

Are you using the Apple EarPods with your Mac? Or a third-party item.

Mark


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On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:05 PM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: El Capitan Clean Install

10.11.3 was giving me some problems so when 10.11.4 was released, I decided 
to do a clean install with it. Even before I have reinstalled anything, that is 
not working out so well especially with Voiceover and either wired or Bluetooth 
headsets. When I try to view items in Finder, audio is routed to system 
speaker. Anyone seen this?

Thinking about trying 10.11.3 again.

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ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

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RE: El Capitan Clean Install

[M. Taylor]

I am so glad you were able to resolve this issue.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:31 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: El Capitan Clean Install

It finally came to me to do a PRAM. If only I did that this morning.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/29/2016 7:12 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Are you using the Apple EarPods with your Mac? Or a third-party item.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:05 PM
> To: MacVisionaries
> Subject: El Capitan Clean Install
>
>  10.11.3 was giving me some problems so when 10.11.4 was released, I 
> decided to do a clean install with it. Even before I have reinstalled 
> anything, that is not working out so well especially with Voiceover and 
> either wired or Bluetooth headsets. When I try to view items in Finder, audio 
> is routed to system speaker. Anyone seen this?
>
>  Thinking about trying 10.11.3 again.
>
>   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
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RE: iPhone 6S Plus Extreme Heat Issue

[M. Taylor]

You’ve received great advice on this.  I would add one thing, however.   

Does the phone heat up when it is not in a case?

I have experienced many situations where a phone is placed in a badly designed 
case which, consequently,  prevents heat from escaping.  

So, before you return the phone, I would first see if the excessive heat occurs 
 even when the phone is not inside a case.

Mark

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On Behalf Of Seyoon Choi
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:41 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 6S Plus Extreme Heat Issue

Hello listers,
I was wondering and had question about my 6S Plus and wanted an input from you 
guys and see if anyone else has this issue. So couple weeks ago I got a new 
iPhone 6S Plus and during the use I’ve noticed that the phone heats up quite 
frequently, even with light use like checking messages or scrolling through 
tweets with VoiceOver. I am wondering if this is specifically VoiceOver problem 
and if anyone has the same issue. The event that really occurs is when I start 
streaming videos that are longer than 2 in a half minutes. I was continuously 
streaming videos from my YouTube subscription box and the phone was very hot. I 
had 5S previously, and because the phone is doing and processing it’s resources 
I would expect a little bit of heat at the back of the phone but haven’t seen 
it getting this hot. It was so hot that the phone even displayed temperature 
warning. To me, the top right hand side, majority being underneath the camera 
seem to be the hottest spot. It’s interesting how the newer phone exposes more 
heat and because it’s a bigger phone I thought the heat would dissipate 
throughout the phone. Anyone else ran into this issue? If it’s getting frequent 
temperature warning I certainly think Apple store might be a trip that I would 
have to plan on.

Seyoon Choi
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Blindinsider
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RE: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Because I think this may be useful, I am posting a reply that I just sent to
the V iPhone list regarding more information on Twitter Moments.

Mark

Hello Regina,

First, I completely understand how Twitter can overwhelm anyone, in the
beginning.  It just takes time in order to learn what to filter out and,
more importantly, what the various symbols/tags mean.  

Second, As a general rule, I suggest that those new to Twitter only follow
news sources such as CNN, The Associated Press, CBS, etc.  I suggest this
because we all know what news is supposed to sound like and, as a result, we
can quickly learn what is data and what is Twitter meta-data, intuitively.
Now that I think about it, when I began using the Twitter app, I only chose
to follow one news source, CNN.  Little-by-little, I began adding other news
sources and then finally commercial companies, private citizens, etc.  

One of the biggest complaints about Twitter, Facebook, social media, etc, is
how much time it takes in order to stay up-to-date with the latest
information.  

Over the last couple of years, Twitter has taken the lead with regard to
providing quick up-to-the-minute news in virtually every area of the globe.
I suspect this began when people in third-world countries began posting to
Twitter when anything horrific happened such as a tsunami, earthquake, etc.
Regardless of how it started, mainstream media began using Twitter as a way
to cultivate more patrons.  Also, during his first presidential run, Barack
Obama demonstrated how powerful Twitter can be in reaching young people in
order to galvanize a movement.

Okay, enough of the history lesson.  My point is that the more people used
Twitter, the more information there was to sift through.  As Kerri stated
yesterday, in order to keep up, one had to either employ a third-party app
to conduct complex searches or one had to follow an enormous number of
people/sources.  At to that the fact that one had to constantly check
Twitter so as not to miss anything.  

Enter Twitter Moments.  Affectively, this turns Twitter into a kind of
breaking news aggregate.

As to how to use it more effectively?

Near the top of the screen, you see some major categories.  Select the one
in which you're interested.  Then, you will see a list of top-stories.  Find
one that peaks your interest and select it.  

This will bring up a full-screen display containing either a photo or a
video.  Near the bottom of the screen, there will be some text describing
the event.  Now keep in mind that the text will only be a few sentences.
Moments is not intended to be a news article but only a blurb to keep you
up-to-date.  

After you read the blurb and/or view the photo/play the video, you can then
use a three-finger swipe from right-to-left in order to see another blurb on
that same topic either by the same source or by another poster.

When you're done, either activate the Close button or perform a
single-finger, hold, and swipe up gesture to be taken back to the main
Moments area.

Okay, I think that about covers the basics.

Good Luck and enjoy,

Mark


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Subject: Re: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver

The tab is about the middle of the screen just above the home button. Still
working to even understand twitter so can someone explain to me how moments
works? I like what is on my screen, but how do I use it to my advantage? I
listened to Jonathan's podcast on tweetings, and I believe there was a place
to just get the name of the tweeter. Does the native app have this? There is
just so much garbage written in the tweet that my ears, well maybe my older
brain?, can't figure out what is being conveyed. I have not tried to Tweet
myself yet because I am afraid I will write it wrong: 
reggie & Lex

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Getting A Developers Attention: RE: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Because I think this may be useful, I am posting a reply that I just sent to
the V iPhone list regarding getting a developer's attention.

Mark

Hello Kerri,

Yes, I am excited about Twitter Moments, also.  It's one of the best
features I've ever used on iPhone.  Although it's difficult to believe,
Twitter is now my favorite non-essential iOS app (smile).

While I appreciate your gracious compliment regarding my ability to get a
developer's attention, I suspect that, in this case, it was the combined
efforts of all of us who took the time to send feedback to Twitter.

To answer your question, more directly, however, I will say that I do pay
close attention to  establishing and maintaining a relationship with the
developers of all of the app's that I have come to depend on.  The first
step in doing this is by not only contacting them when things go wrong but
also contacting them when things go right.  If an app is essential to my
productivity, I always volunteer to become a beta tester so that I can have
direct access to the development team.  

Some companies, however, do not use external beta testers.  In these
instances, I write up very detailed bug reports describing the problem and
then submit the reports via whatever feedback channels are available.

Kerri, time-and-time again I have seen proof that posting comments/bug
reports in the app-review area of iTunes can yield incredible results;
including being contacted by the developer.

So, when I want to get the attention of a developer for an accessibility bug
I:

1.
Determine when and how the bug occurs.  

2.
Write a detailed bug report describing the bug and how it impedes my ability
to use the app.

3.
Submit the report via the app-review section of iTunes.

4.
Submit the report to any additional feedback channels.

5.
Post a message to the group requesting support on the issue.  Because so
many people are so busy, these days, I generally include a generic version
of my bug report and invite group members to use any or all of it in their
submissions.  I also include any feedback channels in the post.

6.
Contact the developer via Twitter/Facebook, if possible.  My experience is
that Twitter is more direct but that's probably because I pay more attention
to Twitter.

7.
If an when the bug is resolved, I contact the developer using all of the
methods described above, thanking them for their efforts.

8.
Update the group list on the new status of the app and invite members to
offer their thanks to the developer, as well.

Finally, Kerri, thank you for posting this particular question to the list
and know that I and others will support your efforts as, when it's all said
and done, we are all in this together.

Most Sincerely,

Mark

Original Message:
Subject: Re: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver

Mark:
I am so excited about this.
I am wondering though how you went about first getting the Twitter
developers attention to this problem, and then next convincing them to fix
this.
I really wish the Snapchat app would become more accessible because Snapchat
is becoming hugely popular and is now being used for communication purposes.
Did the Twitter developers just pay attention to  the review you posted of
their app in the ITunes app store?
Did you take any other steps to alert them or anything?
I am asking all of this because I want to try to do a similar thing with
Snapchat and get them to make Snapchat accessible.
I am so excited about moments though!!! I can finally now really clean out
my Twitter follow list and now I can follow top stories without having to
follow tons of people!!
Thanks so much Mark!!
Kerri

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USA Today's Web's Best Kept Secret? Free classic radio dramas

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I thought I would paste in the following USA Today article as you may find
it useful.  The link to the original article is located at the end of the
text.

Enjoy,

Mark

Web's Best Kept Secret? Free classic radio dramas

By Marc Saltzman, Special for USA TODAY 
March 25, 2016

If you're looking to fill up your smartphone, tablet or laptop with great
content, there's a lot more than just music, videos, ebooks, and games.

Without costing a dime, there are many tens of thousands of "old time radio"
shows - from the golden age of radio - available for streaming or
downloading.

You might be asking yourself "Why would a future-looking technology
journalist want to fill up his phone with radio dramas popularized in the
'40s and '50s?"

Yes, I see the irony. But you'd be pleasantly surprised at how entertaining
these are - and they've kept me sane while commuting in a car or resting my
eyes on a plane. Or, in many instances, I'm playing a game on my phone or
tablet while listening to these shows at the same time. These bite-sized
old-time radio ("OTR") shows are typically 20- to 40-minutes in length.

We're not talking audiobooks here, which are typically narrated by one
person, but rather, these are well-acted radio plays, often with music and
sound effects. Because you're using your imagination to "see" the
characters, environments and actions, these shows feel wonderfully intimate
and personal.

Just like other media, there are different genres for different tastes.
Comedy fans, for example, might prefer to hear the likes of Jack Benny and
Abbott and Costello, while those who prefer science fiction would likely get
a kick out of X Minus One or Orson Welles' (in)famous War of the Worlds
broadcast.

Me, personally? I love the horror, suspense and sci-fi stuff. Favorite
series include Inner Sanctum, CBS Radio Mystery Theater, Lights Out,
Suspense, Quiet Please, The Shadow, Mysterious Traveler, X Minus One, and
anything from Ray Bradbury (be sure to download "Mars is Heaven" and "To the
Future").

Survived by the Internet and MP3 files, most of these radio shows - which
were popular before television took off in the 1950s - still hold up well in
the 21st century. That is, if you can get past some of the classic
stereotypes (such as the Irish cop), sponsor jingles about cigarettes, and
everyone calling each other "dahling."

Because the copyrights expired for most of these shows, you can download and
listen to them for free. Or if you can't be bothered, there are OTR podcasts
to subscribe to. Or for complete collections, you can buy them on disc or
hard drive. However you acquire them, you can fill up your device with
downloaded OTR or stream away.

Enjoy, and spread the word.

Where to get OTR shows

Web sites, satellite radio: Archive.org is the best online resource for free
OTR, which houses many tens of thousands of shows you can download -
one-by-one or as a complete series - and you can then listen to these MP3s
on any compatible device. You'll also get photos, show descriptions and
comments from listeners. Shows can be searched by name or browsed by average
review rating, number of downloads, number of reviews or recent additions.
Also bookmark RelicRadio.com and RUSC.com (Are you sitting comfortably?),
which let you listen to more than 35,000 shows. Those who listen to
satellite radio might not be aware of an old-time radio station that streams
shows 24/7, called Radio Classics (Channel 148).

All of the Relic Radio podcasts are free.
All of the Relic Radio podcasts are free. (Photo: Relic Radio)

Podcasts, apps: There are many dozens of free OTR podcasts to subscribe to.
Most are divided into genre, such as The Horror! or OTR Westerns, or they'll
be posted by name of show, such as ones devoted to Dragnet, Escape. Lone
Ranger or The Shadow. iTunes is popular for subscribing to podcasts and
syncing with mobile devices, but there are many other podcast aggregators,
too. Be sure to check out the Relic Radio podcasts; they're all free but the
narrator -- who introduces each segment with a bit of historical information
-- usually asks for a small donation at the end of the episode. A number of
apps are also devoted to OTR, some of which let you stream shows while
others have a download option.

Buy on hard drive, disc: If you have a lousy Internet connection, want
complete collections, or can't be bothered with finding and downloading
episodes online, you can always buy OTR and have it shipped to your door.
OTRCAT.com lets you buy discs for $5 apiece, sold by show or theme (genre).
Another option is a hard drive with many thousands of OTR episodes, such as
the $74 portable drive at OldTimeRadioDVD.com; the 500GB drive is packed
with more than 74,000 radio shows and other audio and video material. There
are also OTR collections to buy on eBay and online classifieds sites like
Craigslist.

Surf Report readers, do you ever listen to OTR? If so, how do you acquire
them in the digital age?

Columnis

RE: Urgent please, unable to remember my passwor d and can not reset it

[M. Taylor]

Hello Ramy,

It’s not the easiest thing to do but you can retrieve your passwords any 
password from the Key Chain utility.  

I have had to do this for several of my friends who could not remember their 
passwords when installing/upgrading to a new OS.  The keychain utility is 
located in the Utilities folder.  

You will most likely have to read through a lot of items but, the admin 
password is there, I think.  

Worst case scenario, you call Apple and ask them how to do it.  

Finally, if you have the key chain feature enabled on iOS, with the same Apple 
ID, it may be possible to retrieve the data via your iOS device.   Now that I 
think about it, if you don’t have key chain enabled on your iOS device, enable 
it and the passwords/data will be synchronized to the device, then you can 
retrieve it.

Good Luck,

Mark 

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On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 9:28 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Urgent please, unable to remember my passwor d and can not reset it

When installing an app

Ramy moustafa saber
Musicc instructor at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
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On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:00 PM, Dionipher Herrera  wrote:
when are you seeing the password? when your logining? or when it sleeps?

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Three Questions About The Apple TV 4th Generation

[M. Taylor]

Hello All, 

I went to an Apple Store, earlier today, to take alook at iPhone S.E.  

I left the store with an Apple TV 4th Generation 64GB. (smile)

I just spent a couple of hours setting it up and exploring.  

Now I know there's been a lot of podcast from Apple VIS, on this device and
I listened to a couple of them this evening.  

Actually, I find the TV OS pretty strait forward but, as with all new
devices, I have some questions that you may be able to answer.

1.
Is there a page that describes the remote control buttons?  I seem to
remember someone posting a very detailed description of the remote.  

2.
When I first setup my device, I could swear I came across a way to adjust
VoiceOver volume.  That is to say, when I pressed the Plus/Minus button, I
heard feedback as if I were adjusting VoiceOver volume.  In fact, I am
almost positive that the volume changed on the device.  However, for
whatever reason, since updating to the latest version of the OS, I cannot
reproduce such an adjustment.  When I use the VoiceOver Rotor, I cannot
locate a volume option.  

3.
Finally, Is it me, or is there no way to invert colors in the OS.  The first
thing I noticed upon setting up the device was that, unlike my previous
Apple TV, in which menus had white text on a dark background, now it's dark
text on a white background.  Absolutely yucky!!!

I must say that I did like the fact that I could use my iPhone to input all
of my wireless network settings.  Also, I decided to pair my old Apple TV
remote control with my new Apple TV.  So, now I'm using them both.  Very,
very nice.  Oh, and my Apple Wireless Bluetooth keyboard is working fine.

Any and all replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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RE: Three Questions About The Apple TV 4th Generation

[M. Taylor]

Hello Ryan,  Thank you so much for your reply.

Well, I got the volume working; that is to say, it adjust the actual 
television.  I don't know if that is the extent to the volume adjustments or 
not.  Try as I may, I cannot get the clicking feedback sound heard when 
adjusting VoiceOver on iPhone so I don't know if the controller can actually 
adjust VoiceOver volume independently of the system volume.

As for the reverse colors, try as I may, I cannot find a way to have white text 
on a dark background as was the case on the previous generation.  

Were it not for my Bluetooth keyboard, it would be much more difficult for me 
to enter text as I simply cannot see black on white.  

I hope you and others will join me in bringing this to Apple's attention.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2016 1:34 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Three Questions About The Apple TV 4th Generation

I will put my responses below your questions.

> On Apr 2, 2016, at 3:03 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I went to an Apple Store, earlier today, to take alook at iPhone S.E.  
> 
> I left the store with an Apple TV 4th Generation 64GB. (smile)
> 
> I just spent a couple of hours setting it up and exploring.  
> 
> Now I know there's been a lot of podcast from Apple VIS, on this 
> device and I listened to a couple of them this evening.
> 
> Actually, I find the TV OS pretty strait forward but, as with all new 
> devices, I have some questions that you may be able to answer.
> 
> 1.
> Is there a page that describes the remote control buttons?  I seem to 
> remember someone posting a very detailed description of the remote.
> I don't remember where the page is, but I will try to describe them.
With the Lightning port facing towards you, the buttons are as follows:
The button on the bottom left is the play/pause button.  Above that is the Siri 
button. Above the Siri button is the Menu button. This button can also be 
triple-tapped to start/stop VoiceOver. To the right of the Menu button is Home. 
This takes you back to the Home screen when you are in an app.  Below the Home 
button is a long button that turns up and down the volume.
> 2.
> When I first setup my device, I could swear I came across a way to 
> adjust VoiceOver volume.  That is to say, when I pressed the 
> Plus/Minus button, I heard feedback as if I were adjusting VoiceOver 
> volume.  In fact, I am almost positive that the volume changed on the 
> device.  However, for whatever reason, since updating to the latest 
> version of the OS, I cannot reproduce such an adjustment.  When I use 
> the VoiceOver Rotor, I cannot locate a volume option.
> On my Apple TV, I usually need to hold the button down while there is sound 
> such as VoiceOver talking.
> 3.
> Finally, Is it me, or is there no way to invert colors in the OS.  The 
> first thing I noticed upon setting up the device was that, unlike my 
> previous Apple TV, in which menus had white text on a dark background, 
> now it's dark text on a white background.  Absolutely yucky!!!
> If nobody else answers this question, I will look in the Accessibility menu 
> in settings to see if I can find this.
> I must say that I did like the fact that I could use my iPhone to 
> input all of my wireless network settings.  Also, I decided to pair my 
> old Apple TV remote control with my new Apple TV.  So, now I'm using 
> them both.  Very, very nice.  Oh, and my Apple Wireless Bluetooth keyboard is 
> working fine.
> 
> Any and all replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
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Request for Tips on Using Screen Sharing

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I need to help a friend on a Mac halfway across the country.

I have researched screen sharing via Google but am having a difficult time
wrapping my mind around how it works.  

I would greatly appreciate it if someone could outline the broad strokes on
how to set such a connection up and how to use it.  

Both Macs will be running El Capitan.  

Thank you,

Mark

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RE: Using Apple music on iTunes for windows

[M. Taylor]

Hello Venkatesh,

What screen reader are you using with iTunes for Windows?  

Also, remember that you must manually Authorize your Windows computer in order 
to see purchases associated with your iTunes ID.  Merely signing into your 
iTunes account, via iTunes, does not automatically Authorize that particular 
computer.

Mark

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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 7:23 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Using Apple music on iTunes for windows

Hi,
I downloaded the latest version of iTunes on Windows machine and logged in with 
my Apple ID in the iTunes Store.

However, I'm unable to find any tabs related to Apple music (knew, for you, 
radio, etc) how do I enable Apple Music?  I am also unable to find music from 
my iCloud music library. 

Thank you.
Regards,
Venkatesh Potluri
Http://www.venkateshpotluri.me
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RE: Request for Tips on Using Screen Sharing

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jonathan,

Thank you so much for the help.

To answer your question< I use VoiceOver so I assume it needs to be running on 
both machines, right?  My primary goal will be to adjust the remote computer's 
system preferences, etc.  

For some reason, I thought that OS X offered a easy-to-use native utility for 
such endeavors.  

I would prefer to avoid using a third-party solution, if possible.

Unless there is a more native option, as far as I can tell, Back to my Mac will 
probably be my choice, I think (smile).

Mark

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On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 4:37 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Request for Tips on Using Screen Sharing

There are several applications out there for doing this and each has its own 
features. Generally there are the web conferencing type solutions and the 
remote log in to my computer solutions.

For the Web Conferencing type solutions (I think even skype  has a version) you 
connect together each logging into the same conference ID. Then the sharing 
side clicks a share button and the display will appear in a browser window. 

Back to my Mac is an example of the other type of connection. In this case both 
connections login with the same account on a server. Essentially you register a 
computer with the service and then a background process is available. When you 
login to that service from a different computer it will list the computers 
currently listening on your account and you pick the one you want. At that 
point you take control of the system.

Also, in most cases the systems on either side of the connection don’t need to 
be running the same operating system.
con
Will you need Voiceover directed through the connection also?

Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On 7 Apr 2016, at 01:08, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I need to help a friend on a Mac halfway across the country.
> 
> I have researched screen sharing via Google but am having a difficult 
> time wrapping my mind around how it works.
> 
> I would greatly appreciate it if someone could outline the broad 
> strokes on how to set such a connection up and how to use it.
> 
> Both Macs will be running El Capitan.  
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
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How To Set A VoiceOver Activity for Notification Center info

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I just posted the following information in an existing thread, a few moments
ago.  I believe I posted this information to the list a couple of years ago,
also.  However, because I think it important, I am posting it again, in this
thread for those who may not be aware of the feature.

How To Set A VoiceOver Activity for Notification Center info

NOTE:
This document assumes that you know how to create and configure VoiceOver
Activities.

Generally speaking, I prefer my default system VO Voice to be Alex.
However, I want any and all of my system notifications to use my beloved
Samantha voice.  

The short answer:

To set a VoiceOver Activity for the Mac OSX Notification Center, when
selecting a finder app in the Activity configuration process, simply locate
the Notification Center app and select it.  The notification app is located
in the Core Services Folder of the Library folder which is located on the
hard drive's system folder.

The long answer is that when you Click on the Find App option during the
Activity creation process, you will be placed in the Applications folder.
The Notification Center app is located in a different place.  You must find
the correct folder and then simply select the Notifications.app file.

A.
First, open the computer's hard drive.
Second, open the System folder.
Third, open the Library folder.
Fourth, open the CoreServices folder.
Fifth, select the Notification.app file.

or 

B.
Use the Command + Shift + G key-combo and type in 
/System/Library/CoreServices/ 
to get to the correct folder, super fast.

Good Luck and Enjoy.

Mark

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RE: How To Set A VoiceOver Activity for Notification Center info

[M. Taylor]

Sadam,

That, of course, is your opinion.

Conversely,  I find VoiceOver Activities absolutely stable in El Capitan, and 
rely on them daily..

Mark


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On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 1:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How To Set A VoiceOver Activity for Notification Center info

Never mind  that Activities are temperamental at best in El Capitan. 

Stay well, 

Sadam Ahmed 

Sent from my iPhone 

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On 9 Apr 2016, at 3:36 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
Hello All,

I just posted the following information in an existing thread, a few moments
ago.  I believe I posted this information to the list a couple of years ago,
also.  However, because I think it important, I am posting it again, in this
thread for those who may not be aware of the feature.

How To Set A VoiceOver Activity for Notification Center info

NOTE:
This document assumes that you know how to create and configure VoiceOver
Activities.

Generally speaking, I prefer my default system VO Voice to be Alex.
However, I want any and all of my system notifications to use my beloved
Samantha voice.  

The short answer:

To set a VoiceOver Activity for the Mac OSX Notification Center, when
selecting a finder app in the Activity configuration process, simply locate
the Notification Center app and select it.  The notification app is located
in the Core Services Folder of the Library folder which is located on the
hard drive's system folder.

The long answer is that when you Click on the Find App option during the
Activity creation process, you will be placed in the Applications folder.
The Notification Center app is located in a different place.  You must find
the correct folder and then simply select the Notifications.app file.

A.
First, open the computer's hard drive.
Second, open the System folder.
Third, open the Library folder.
Fourth, open the CoreServices folder.
Fifth, select the Notification.app file.

or 

B.
Use the Command + Shift + G key-combo and type in 
/System/Library/CoreServices/ 
to get to the correct folder, super fast.

Good Luck and Enjoy.

Mark

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RE: Ibooks on Ipad mini and braille.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Michelle, et al, 

You can set iOS 9.x to automatically turn pages as you pan the Braille display. 
 To do this:

1.
>From the Settings menu, select General.

2.
Select Accessibility.

3.
Select VoiceOver.

4.
Select Braille.

5.
Set the "Turn Pages When Panning" option to "ON".

Now, as you pan, the page will turn, automatically.

I have not explored OS X to see if such an option exist.  For the most part, I 
only read iBooks, via Braille, in iOS.

Mark

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Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 7:03 PM
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Subject: Re: Ibooks on Ipad mini and braille.

Hi Anders, 

Michelle Stevens here, 

Not sure if my advise is any good for answering your question?  

On the IPhone I use Braille display with iBooks all the time.  

To change pages I use the right rocker button on my focus 14.  To go top of 
page I use space bar and dots 123 and arrow until I get to the text. If you are 
a quick Braille reader I sometimes use second and third fingers swipe down 
screen to read pages continuously without stoping.  It is easy to loose your 
spot because VO is reading quickly. 

Good luck 

Michelle 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Apr 2016, at 1:51 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Is it possible to skip the pages chocer in Ibooks and read continuously with 
> a braille display?
> Its very frustrating to have to choke around and select next page and then go 
> back and start reading again.
> /A
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Mark on Apple TV 4th Generation, A Quick Follow UP

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Hello Everyone,

I must say that I am enjoying my Apple TV 4th Gen more and more.  

I downloaded the YouTube app, among many others, and paired it with my
mobile phone/Google account so now everything I do in the iOS YouTube app or
in a  web browser, appears on the Apple TV app and, vice-versa.  YouTube is
really quite nice, especially when on a big screen.

While I have not yet downloaded any games, I look forward to experimenting
with a few in the coming days.

I honestly didn't think there would be much difference between the 4th gen
and the second generation Apple TV.  I am delighted to see that I was quite
mistaken.

Mark

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RE: Safari Verbosity Driving Me Bonkers Any Help How to get rid of

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Hello Brian,

I followed your steps in terms of attempting to turn off the " disclosure 
triangle" VoiceOver statement by setting the custom control to low.  However, 
for me, at least, doing so had no effect in the Apple Mail application.  

Are you using the Standard view in Mail? Or the Classic view.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
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Subject: Re: Safari Verbosity Driving Me Bonkers Any Help How to get rid of

Hey thought of this after posting in case anyone else is monitoring. I did 
notice in verbosity under custom there is now away to thankfully stop every 
mail thread saying disclosure triangle as I believe if you click the control 
box and set that one to low it goes away. So nice to not be hearing disclosure 
triangle anymore. Now if we can just get rid of the one row added in Night Owl 
and Mail.
On Apr 14, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

Thank you so much John that solved it. Even us trainers do not think of 
everything all the time. Wow was that driving me bonkers. Great to have it for 
newbies but great to get it to shut up.
On Apr 14, 2016, at 10:23 AM, John Panarese  wrote:

Hi Brian,
  That is actually the VoiceOver hints you are hearing. . Turn off the hints in 
the hints tab of verbosity and that should go away.


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On Apr 14, 2016, at 2:02 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

Hey all,

New to El Cap and the verbosity of browsing in safari is driving me nuts. I 
have my verbosity turned to low and tried custom verbosity but nothing I do 
gets rid of safari constantly saying when I am on a link you are on a link 
inside of a cell. At times instead of reading the link the stupid message you 
are on a link inside of a cell is read instead absolutely destroying my 
productivity. Is there any way to get rid of this? Another one is you are 
currently on text inside of cell. That’s great I know that and do not need to 
be told this every time I move some where in safari. This is awful.

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A Question About How To Delete Audio Books from the Audible tvOS App on Apple TV 4th Generation

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this question.

Does anyone know how to delete an audio book from the Audible app on the
latest version of tvOS?

My situation is as follows:

Because I have a legacy Audible account, one that has not yet been linked to
Amazon, I can only login to my account using a username and password instead
of an email address and password.  At present, the tvOS version of the app
does not support this.  

Yesterday, after opening the Audible app in tvOS, I went to the accounts
tab.  To my surprise, even when not logged in, one can browse and download
free audio books.  I took advantage of this feature and downloaded one
title.  Everything works perfectly accept that I cannot discover how to
remove the book.  

Any and all replies welcomed.

Mark

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RE: A Question About How To Delete Audio Books from the Audible tvOS App on Apple TV 4th Generation

[M. Taylor]

Hello Kawal,

Well, as it turns out, I was mistaken.  The app I downloaded on my Apple TV was 
not from Audible, but rather from AudioBooks.com.  

However, to answer your question, yes, Audible does offer some free titles.

Mark


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 12:40 PM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: A Question About How To Delete Audio Books from the Audible tvOS 
App on Apple TV 4th Generation

Hello Mark.

Do Audible distribute free audible books now?  Not been on their website for 
some time as I did not renew my plan that I use to have as I got fed up with 
them.  Just curious to know if they have free audible books now.  Not been on 
their website since the RNIB in the UK made their Talking book service library 
free to blind users.

Kawal.
On 15 Apr 2016, at 20:25, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this question.

Does anyone know how to delete an audio book from the Audible app on the
latest version of tvOS?

My situation is as follows:

Because I have a legacy Audible account, one that has not yet been linked to
Amazon, I can only login to my account using a username and password instead
of an email address and password.  At present, the tvOS version of the app
does not support this.  

Yesterday, after opening the Audible app in tvOS, I went to the accounts
tab.  To my surprise, even when not logged in, one can browse and download
free audio books.  I took advantage of this feature and downloaded one
title.  Everything works perfectly accept that I cannot discover how to
remove the book.  

Any and all replies welcomed.

Mark

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How To Get a List of Available Printers to be Displayed When Adding a New Printer

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Here's the scenario that I have encountered several times on multiple new
Macs:

1..
Open the Add Printer dialog box.  

2.
Select Add Printer.  

3.
In the Use pop-up box, choose Select Software.

At this point, time-and-time again, the list of available Apple printer
drivers is either empty or sparsely populated with completely irrelevant
drivers.  If I type in the actual brand of the printer, for example, Cannon,
no drivers are displayed.

This has happened to me both when installing my own printers and when
installing printers for others.  

I remember that when I attempted to install my Samsung printer, I ran into
this problem.  Even after checking for updates, no drivers were displayed.  

However, a couple of days later, when attempting to do so again, the list
was populated with hundreds of drivers, one of which was my particular
model.  

Again, I have encountered this same scenario over and over again, including
yesterday when attempting to install a printer for a friend.

Of course, some suggest that one should go to the manufacturers site to
download the drivers.  A great idea unless the manufacturer informs you that
the drivers for the model are already provided by Apple.  

I have conducted several Google searches on this and have discovered that a
lot of people encounter this problem yet I cannot discover a solution.  The
closest I came to finding a solution is located in a support document,
posted by apple, listing all of the currently provided printer drivers.
However, they do not address exactly how to get the list of drivers to be
displayed, automatically,, on demand.

Any thoughts?

Mark


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RE: Is there any way to accept an Outlook Calendar invitation in Mail?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Donna,

I just performed a quick search for you and came up with the following article 
that I will paste in this post.  The URL to the article is located at the end 
of the text.

Given that Outlook is the primary client of choice for mainstream business 
users, I am certain it is possible to accept an Outlook invitation from within 
OS X El Capitan Mail.  It’s just a matter of discovering how it is done.  

Mark

Mail (El Capitan): Add events, contacts, and more from messages

Add events, contacts, and more from messages in Mail

When you receive emails that include invitations, dates and times, addresses, 
phone numbers, or other types of information, you can use that information in 
other apps, such as Calendar or Contacts. For example, Mail can detect dates 
and times in a message and suggest an event to add to your calendar. 

Add events to Calendar

You can add events and invitations you receive in messages to the Calendar app. 
If you have an Exchange account, you can reply to invitations sent from 
Calendar, Outlook, or Outlook Web Access. 

Accept a Mail suggestion: Click Add (you can review the suggested event before 
adding it to Calendar). To decline the suggestion, click the close button . 

Add events yourself: Move the pointer over a date or time anywhere in a message 
until an outline appears around the information. Click the arrow, then click 
Add to Calendar (shown only if you have already set up an account in Calendar). 

Add events for an Exchange account: In the banner at the top of the message 
containing the invitation, click Accept, Decline, or Maybe. If the event is 
being canceled, click OK. To view the invitation in Calendar, click the 
Calendar button in the banner. 

Mail sends your reply to the event organizer and updates your calendar on the 
Exchange server and in Calendar, when it syncs with the server. 

Have Mail add events for you: Choose Mail > Preferences, click General, click 
the “Add invitations to Calendar” pop-up menu, then choose Automatically. 

Add information to Contacts

When you read messages, you can add email addresses and other contact 
information to the Contacts app.

Accept a Mail suggestion: Click Add (you can review the suggested information 
before adding it to Contacts). To decline the suggestion, click the close 
button . 

Add contacts yourself: Move the pointer over a phone number, email address, or 
street address anywhere in the text. Mail outlines the information; click the 
arrow, then choose an option from the pop-up menu. Or simply force click the 
outlined information. 

Add a contact from a Smart Address: Move the pointer over the Smart Address, 
click the arrow that appears, then choose Add to Contacts. 

Add a contact from the message list: Select a message in the list, then choose 
Message > Add Sender to Contacts. 

Add passes to Wallet

The Wallet app on your iPhone or iPod touch (with iOS 6 or later) lets you 
store “Wallet passes” such as boarding passes, coupons, movie tickets, and so 
on. When you receive a Wallet pass in Mail, you can add it to Wallet on your 
iPhone or iPod touch. The pass is also added to Wallet on Apple Watch, if 
Mirror iPhone is on in the Apple Watch app. 

Original Article at:
https://support.apple.com/kb/PH22304?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 5:02 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is there any way to accept an Outlook Calendar invitation in Mail?

Hi,

There was an attachment. I looked at it, but it contained no links to except 
the invitation. Leave it to Microsoft!
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 25, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> Any attachments in the message?  Maybe if you could merge iCalendar events.  
> (Nah, silly me, this is Microsoft we’re talking about, yes?)
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RE: Barnes and Noble web site driving me nuts!

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Hello Chris,

First, let me say that you are definitely not imagining things with regard to 
the Barnes and Noble website and Safari--at least, not really (smile).

1.
After reading your post, I fired up Safari on my MBP mid-2014 running El 
Capitan.  I went to Barnes and Noble.com.  I had absolutely no problem in 
logging in and browsing the site.  However, I did notice that there is a 
perpetually updating banner/graphics in the middle of each page.  

2.
I signed out of my account, closed Safari, and then re-opened Safari and went 
back to the site.  This time, before logging back in, the site was slow, oh so 
slow and sluggish.  I kept getting busy warnings and I noticed that the 
VoiceOver focus did not match the actual cursor focus.  The more I used the VO 
commands, the more out of sync the focus and, consequently, the more sluggish 
the experience.  Even stopping and re-starting VoiceOver had no effect.  In a 
word, it was terrible.

3.
I closed Safari and re-opened, yet again, and, again, went back to the site.  
This third-time, was a smooth as the first.  I had no lag and easily entered my 
credentials and successfully navigated the site.  

So, Chris, there is definitely something going on and I would wager that it has 
something to do with the HTML 5 scripts they are using in order to keep the 
banner/graphics constantly updating.

4.
As an aside, I logged onto the site in IE 11 and had no problem navigating via 
Jaws v17.x.  Just in case you're interested.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 7:32 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Barnes and Noble web site driving me nuts!

Guys,

I'm not sure how many of you, if any use the Barnes and Noble web site to 
purchase online books either digitally or whatever, but I'm telling you one 
thing: I've not use the site in quite a while.  Last time I did, it was 
gorgeous, but now, to say it's a mess is an under-statement.

Every time I try opening the site with Safari, Crome, or for that mind, even 
with Webkit's nightly build, Voiceover totally locks up going busy.  A few 
times, I tried navigating to the site, and it wouldn't even fully load.  I had 
to hit command+R to refresh about 5 or 6 times before it finally decided to 
fully load.

When I called their support, they insisted it was an issue with my mac, but if 
that's the case, then explain to me how come I'm having this issue on all 3 of 
my macs, and also have the issue on my mom's mac mini as well.  Obviously, 
there is an issue, but B&N are refusing to admit it, which is a shame, 
considering that their I O S app is so well designed.

Before anyone says, what's wrong with just using IBooks, I'll say there's 
nothing at all wrong with it.  I love IBooks.  I just like having various 
different EBook readers on hand.  You'll never know when one may have a book 
that another doesn't.

Anyway, is anyone else noticing this with the mac when you try going to the web 
site?  If nothing else, once there, try going to the account link.  Then things 
really will start to fall apart, I almost can guarantee it.  If it does work 
for you, it'll most likely be very very sluggish.

Chris.

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RE: iPhone 7 specs confirmed from a leaked schematic, includes 2 cameras and no iPhone jack

[M. Taylor]

I tend to agree with you, Donna; but, I will keep an open mind--at least, I'll 
try. (smile)

On another note, I would enjoy watching your YouTube channel so please post 
your channel's URL.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 6:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 7 specs confirmed from a leaked schematic, includes 2 
cameras and no iPhone jack

Hmm.  Well, I let you grab that pre-order and watch your review on the Youtube 
channel first. :) Cheers, Donna
> On Apr 28, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Scott  wrote:
> 
> Oh I totally disagree.
> 
> There will be an ability to pack a lot more in to this device with out having 
> the headphone jack in the way and sending audio out the lightning connector.  
> The two cameras are also useful because you can determine distance to objects 
> with multiple video feeds combined that way.  That might be very useful for 
> us specifically once apps take advantage of it.  New processor for more 
> speed, I’ll be grabbing a 7 hopefully this time on the preorder so I can 
> unbox on my youtube channel.  I don’t know but i hope the radio upgrade is as 
> good as the 6 to 6S or 5S to 6 was.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> That sounds utterly uninteresting.  Hard to believe that I won't be tempted 
>> to drink the cool aide this time around.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Apr 28, 2016, at 7:55 AM, Scott  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Redmond Pie is reporting that a leaked iPhone 7 schematic appeared in a 
>>> japanese magazine and confirms many of the rumors out there.  The iPhone 7+ 
>>> also called the Pro will include dual cameras for stereoscopic vision, no 
>>> head phone jack and a smart connector on the back.  Also appears to have a 
>>> touch sensitive home button and a similar size to the iPhone 6s+.
>>> 
>>> Read more here
>>> 
>>> http://www.redmondpie.com/rumored-iphone-7-plus-features-and-design-
>>> specs-confirmed-by-schematics-leak/
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Please Post Your YouTube Channel URL, So We Can Get To Know You

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I only now just realized that some of us have YouTube channels in which we
demonstrate various aspects of accessibility or our lives.

So, I invite you to post your channel's URL to the list so that we can get
to know you a little better.

While I have a YouTube channel, as yet, I have not added any videos but when
I do, I will post it's URL.

Mark

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How Do You Use iOS?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and the Mac Visionaries Mailing
List:

I was having lunch with a friend today at a sunny outdoor café and, during
our conversation, the subject of iOS and the number of apps we use on a
regular basis came up.  As we began listing our favorite apps, I once again
realized how much iPhone and it’s related apps have revolutionized my life
in almost every aspect.  

Below I will list the apps I used today and/or within the last two days.  In
some cases I will list the name of the app, in others, I will only list the
type of app. 

I hope you will contribute to this thread by listing the apps you use most
often as I and others would like to get to know you and, perhaps, discover
an app or two about which we can learn.

Okay, here we go:

1.
Clock:
I use the iOS clock for wake-up alarms and in some cases, to time activities
such as workouts or cooking.

2.
Calendar:
I use my Calendar for virtually all my appointments.  Today, for example I
was reminded of two upcoming doctor appointments and, of course, today’s
lunch date.  I also used it today to schedule new appointments including a
date with a person I met via an online dating app which I will list below.

3.
Messages:
I send and receive text/iMessages all through the day for everything from
staying in touch with friends to financial activity notifications.

4.
The Weather app:
Even though we do not have much variation in our weather patterns out here,
I usually check the weather at least once a day, before going out.

5.
Financial apps:
I use my financial institutions, including banks and credit card companies,
apps to transfer funds, pay bills, and monitor account activities.  Just as
an aside, I do not use any third-party services to manage my finances.  AT
this time, I need absolutely no sighted assistance in reading/monitoring
account activity or paying bills.  To me, this is as close to miraculous as
it gets.  Some of you may be too young to understand that there was a time
in the not-so-distant past, when those of us who were visually impaired had
virtually no privacy in such matters.  This is something that we should
never forget.  

6.
Downcast:
I use Downcast on a daily basis to listen to my favorite podcasts.  I also
use the native podcast app but not to listen to external audio but only to
listen to material that I have manually tagged for the app such as my
favorite old-time radio episodes.

7.
TV Guide Mobile:
Even though I don’t watch a great deal of television, last night, for
example, I used TV Guide Mobile in order to check listings and set my DVR
for future broadcasts.

8.
CVS Pharmacy Mobile
One of my most favorite apps is CVS Pharmacy Mobile.  I use it, regularly,
to manage and refill my prescriptions.

9.
Seeing Eye GPS:
For me, this is a must-have app.  Simply stated, it provides an almost
unparalleled level of independence in the iOS navigation universe.

10.
The K N F B Reader app:
Even though I have several tools available for OCR, I find that I am using
the K N F B Reader more and more to take quick snapshots in order to obtain
information on the fly.

11.
The native iOS Twitter App:
I use this app throughout the day in order to stay up-to-date on current
events and to participate in the global conversation.  It is a must-have, in
my world.  I just love the Moments feature.

12.
Maps:
To me, the native iOS Maps app is like a trusted friend that I can always
count on.  With it, I know that, no matter the situation, I can always find
my way home.  It was because of the marvelous accessibility of Apple Maps
that convinced me to give up my 6 year subscription to A T & T Navigator, a
first-class GPS navigation tool in its own right.

13.
Apple Pay:
As I have posted on several occasions, Apple Pay has completely
revolutionized my point-of-purchase experience.  I live in an area where I
can use Apple Pay on a daily basis, for example, when buying groceries,
dining out, getting medicine, or even purchasing gifts or office supplies.
It is absolutely amazing.  

14.
Online dating apps:
I have been a long-time advocate of making online dating/online dating apps
accessible to the blind and low vision.  I am pleased to tell you that the
major online dating services, such as eHarmony.com, have been listening.  As
a result, I use online dating apps to meet new people, on a regular basis.

15.
Audio Book apps:
I use BARD Mobile, iBooks, the Audible.com app, and OverDrive (the public
library system) app, to enjoy audio books.

16.
Terrestrial radio app: 
I find that I am using the ooTunes app, more and more, to catch A.M. talk
radio when I am in places that cannot receive A.M. signal.   

17.
Fandango:
In an era in which audio described movies are becoming more readily
available, I enjoy using the Fandango app to both browse movie listings and
purchase tickets.  

Finally, of course I use other apps such as the Money Reader app, Skype, 1
Password Pro, News Line, OneDrive, the native Camera

A Certain Spammer has been removed from the Group

[M. Taylor]

I have just removed a certain spammer from the list who was forwarding
messages.

Let's just leave it at that.

Mark

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RE: A Certain Spammer has been removed from the Group

[M. Taylor]

Hello Joseph,  

I appreciate your very graciously stated suggestion.

>From time-to-time, the list gets spammed.  I don't always catch these spammers 
>immediately and when this happens, list members will contact me, off-list, in 
>order to bring this to my attention.  Consequently, I post to the list when I 
>remove a spammer so that members will know that a problem has been addressed 
>and that there is no need to send me a notification.

Be that as it may, I will definitely consider your advice.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Certain Spammer has been removed from the Group

Mark, may I give you a little advice concerning what you have done as an admin? 
What you're doing is great, but I don't feel that it is necessary to alert the 
whole group that you have remove the spammer, I think it is best that you just 
alert the people that helped you and Cara out with monitoring this group on a 
day-to-day basis. Because probably from this message forward people will 
probably start flooding our inboxes with thank you's and such. Just a piece of 
advice from A attman of a nicely handled list.amming
Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7...@gmail.com
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Telephone
2543007667
Skype
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Twitter
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FaceTime/iMessage
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I have just removed a certain spammer from the list who was forwarding
messages.

Let's just leave it at that.

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RE: How Do You Use iOS?

[M. Taylor]

I just want to thank you all for contributing to this thread.  

Honestly, I cannot stop smiling when I read your lists of apps and discover all 
of the various ways you use them.

To those who have not yet posted, please remember that you do not need to list 
only apps that have not yet been mentioned; just list the apps that you use and 
how you use them if they are not self-explanatory.  

Personally, I am making a list of all of the marvelous apps you have brought to 
my attention that I have not yet explored.

>From the bottom of my heart, I thank you and, let’s keep ‘em coming.  (Big, 
>Big, Smile).

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 3:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How Do You Use iOS?

Hi Mark, cool thread here’s my response to add to the others.

1. Good Mail for Enterprise, it’s a secure mail client owned by RIM now that I 
use to access my work email.  Since it’s a secure network we need to use a 
client like this to access exchange.

2. iMessage, I use the native messaging app as well as the Mac app to work with 
engineers in the field or other coworkers.  It’s great for me as I can respond 
on any device so it makes working very simple if I can cut and paste to the 
same conversation on my laptop and pick it up on the phone.

3. CNBC, I use the watch lists and also love the automatic notifications so I 
get my important breaking financial news.

4. Ootunes / i heart radio / radio.com / tune in pro/ XM sirius, these are the 
streaming music / media apps I use.  I like the XM because it syncs with my 
car, the other apps are just good over the air aggregators.

5. WhatsApp: secure messaging that’s encrypted end to end.  Migrating to this 
away from other apps for security reasons.

6. Bria soft phone, allows me to connect to my PBX, enables me to encrypt both 
the payload and signaling for my calls and has very good features that are 
totally accessible.  Also supports video.

7. Open VPN: allows me to connect to my own Open VPN server from my phone so 
when on public WiFi or other open environments I can encrypt my communications. 
 Supports very long keys and SHA-512 hashing firewall feature so very secure, 
especially good for traveling internationally

8. Apple Pay: love it, use it with my phone and watch.  B of A is also 
introducing card free ATM machines that you use your phone to authenticate.

9. Bank of America App: basic banking app

10. RSA Security:  Allows me to authenticate at work.  Use pin + RSA back end 
to produce a code I enter when logging in that changes every 60 seconds.

11. GPGtools:  Allows me to encrypt and decrypt emails securely.

12. IMAP weather Radio for weather alerts.

And as mentioned your good ol Major League Baseball app to listen to the San 
Francisco Giants or if anyone asks up here the Red Socks.:)

Other than that I like the included apps like the stocks app, music, video, and 
calculator.

 
On Apr 28, 2016, at 10:42 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and the Mac Visionaries Mailing
List:

I was having lunch with a friend today at a sunny outdoor café and, during
our conversation, the subject of iOS and the number of apps we use on a
regular basis came up.  As we began listing our favorite apps, I once again
realized how much iPhone and it’s related apps have revolutionized my life
in almost every aspect.  

Below I will list the apps I used today and/or within the last two days.  In
some cases I will list the name of the app, in others, I will only list the
type of app. 

I hope you will contribute to this thread by listing the apps you use most
often as I and others would like to get to know you and, perhaps, discover
an app or two about which we can learn.

Okay, here we go:

1.
Clock:
I use the iOS clock for wake-up alarms and in some cases, to time activities
such as workouts or cooking.

2.
Calendar:
I use my Calendar for virtually all my appointments.  Today, for example I
was reminded of two upcoming doctor appointments and, of course, today’s
lunch date.  I also used it today to schedule new appointments including a
date with a person I met via an online dating app which I will list below.

3.
Messages:
I send and receive text/iMessages all through the day for everything from
staying in touch with friends to financial activity notifications.

4.
The Weather app:
Even though we do not have much variation in our weather patterns out here,
I usually check the weather at least once a day, before going out.

5.
Financial apps:
I use my financial institutions, including banks and credit card companies,
apps to transfer funds, pay bills, and monitor account activities.  Just as
an aside, I do not use any third-party services to manage my finances.  AT
this time, I need absolutely no sighted assistance in reading/monitoring
account activity or paying bills.  To me, this is as

RE: my noise and human to cat translator

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jean,

It would be great if there was an app for male to female / Female to Male 
translator, eh? You know, for us simple humans? (big Smile)  

Just an idea.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jean
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 2:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: my noise and human to cat translator

Hi Jesica:
My Noise was featured on Apple Vis a while ago. It is a sound generator for 
things like white noise, rain or other sustained sounds.

Human to cat translator is a fun app that you can record something you want to 
tell your cat and it translates into, well, cat speak. 
Jean

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RE: human to cat translator

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

While I enjoy a healthy political debate as much as anyone, I ask that we try 
to keep the contributions to various threads, especially this one, on-point.

I'm thinking that it is time to close this particular thread.

Having said this, if any of you would like to share your Twitter handles/names 
or facebook info, so that I and others may have access to your views, by all 
means, in a separate thread, please, post them to the list as I do enjoy 
reading your opinions.  That's assuming, of course, that you share your views 
on various topics via social media.

Thank you for respecting my request to both stay on point and to close this 
particular thread.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of CHUCK REICHEL
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 6:03 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: human to cat translator

Yes she did indeed!
Also there are over 150 FBI agents currently investigating her and getting 
ready to turn in the info to DOJ!
Charges  to follow if justice is served!
This is just the tip of the ice berg!
Talk soon
Chuck

On May 4, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Scott wrote:

> She mishandled classified documents.
> 
> To offtopic to go in to much detail here but basically what she did was set 
> up her own mail server and then use it to get around the public records act 
> while sending classified data one republic networks.
> 
> Messy stuff google and try to read something from both sides of the argument 
> to learn more.
> 
> 
>> On May 4, 2016, at 6:02 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> What is the issue with Hillary?
>> 
>> What did she do other than  being married to bill?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott
>> Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2016 12:58 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: human to cat translator
>> 
>> Hopefully, Hillary will be brought up on charges soon and wet can get this 
>> thing over.
>> 
>> I’m at a bit of a disadvantage in that I’ve actually met Mr Trump years ago, 
>> way before this recent run when he contracted my father’s business to 
>> install some large generator sets for a Marine application.  It was a 
>> positive experience.  I’m also aware of an act of generosity on his part 
>> that’s not publicly known so my personal opinion is the stuff you see on TV 
>> is an act.  Not that you want that for your president just that he’s not the 
>> “Richard” that many may think or make him out to be or he makes him self out 
>> to be to be fare.:)
>> 
>> Personally, I think Simon has the right idea being in New Zealand.
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2016, at 8:49 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, you're right.  That is a problem.  Personally, I'll take the criminal 
>>> over the whacko.  At least with Hilary you know you're getting a 
>>> self-serving political animal.  But with Trump God only knows. but I agree 
>>> it'd be nice if we actually had an attractive option.
>>> Donna
 On May 3, 2016, at 7:45 AM, Scott  wrote:
 
 Well, neither option is good, Trump’s a whacko and Hillary is a criminal 
 so neither option is great.  I’m a Gary Johnson man myself but hoping for 
 a 3rd party is the definition of wishful thinking.
 
> On May 3, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> lol  You've got that right.  And sadly, if he gets to be president, all 
> these idiots who are voting for him will figure out just what a 
> pathological whack job they've sent to the white House. *sigh*
> 
> OK, so maybe our cat's the second craziest one on the planet.  In either 
> case, she's much more pleasant to be around than is even having to listen 
> to the Donald.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 3, 2016, at 2:01 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> I thought Donald Trump was the craziest cat on the planet?
>> 
>> Even though he is out of this world in the way of reality!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 12:28 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: human to cat translator
>> 
>> OK, somehow I missed this thread.  I need this app, I think our cat has 
>> to be the craziest cat on the planet.  What's the name of the app?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On May 2, 2016, at 1:55 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not laughing really,
>>> 
>>> I'll have to let my friend who has a crazy cat know about this app.
>>> 
>>> She might be able to then get the message across that the cats losing it
>>> 
>>> .
>>> 
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>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Beha

RE: Help Activating Iphone.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Anders,

It's been a while since I restored my phone but, all things being equal, that 
is to say depending upon the size and speed of your phone, the amount of data 
involved, the speed of your computer, etc, a restore should not take longer 
than 1 hour or so, at most.  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 5:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Help Activating Iphone.

Hi!
Hmm, this is so strange.
I unplugged the device and did turn it off and back on again and now voiceover 
works like a charm.
I don’t know why this happend but now i am restoring it from Icloud.
It seems to take very long time though so i really hope its done before church 
tomorrow.
Goodnight from a tired Sweed.
/A
> On 05 May 2016, at 01:32, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I decided today i should get my Iphone 6S out of the beta program.
> So i followed the instructions and tried to restore the phone.
> Now i am stuck because voiceover does not speak on the iphone even if i 
> tripple click the home button it does not work.
> Itunes shows a wierd activationg html page telling me there is a problem with 
> the Iphone.
> It suggests me to click a link abut iphone service but what i need now is an 
> iphone that has voiceover going.
> It does not help to talk to siri either.
> I am really in a mess.
> Stupid me that did this right now.
> Maybe i will have to use the android phone i have here.
> /A
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RE: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jurgen,

As I do not know in which country you reside, please keep in mind that Twitter 
Moments is, at present, only available in a few locations including the United 
States, Canada etc.  

So, it may not be offered in your location.

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 12:08 AM
To: Mac Visionaries Visionaries
Subject: Re: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver

Hello Mark,

I’m a bit confused. In my Twitter app there’s no „Moments“ tap. Could you help 
me to understand your message better?

Thanks and
all the best
Jürgen

> Am 29.03.2016 um 03:05 schrieb M. Taylor :
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I am so delighted to let you know that, as of today's update, the iOS 
> native Twitter app now supports Twitter Moments via VoiceOver.  To 
> begin enjoying this extremely exciting new feature of Twitter, on your iOS 
> device:
> 
> 1.
> Update to the latest version of Twitter.
> 
> 2.
> Select the Moments tab located on the bottom row of the display.  
> 
> Be certain to explore the entire screen as the Moments area has a 
> slightly different layout than the rest of the Twitter app.
> 
> Also, I am happy to report that every aspect of Moments is accessible 
> via the app's soft-buttons and by specific VoiceOver gestures 
> including the 3-finger swipe left, to move through a specific thread, 
> and the single-finger hold, and swipe up gesture, in order to quickly 
> close a thread and be returned to the main app.  Also, Moments video 
> playback works flawlessly.  Just remember that in order to hear the 
> video, you must unmute the sound via a soft-button located near the 
> upper left corner of the display.
> 
> Give yourself plenty of time to explore this new quick and easy way to 
> stay up-to-date on what's happening around the world.
> 
> Finally, please join me in thanking the developers of Twitter for 
> making Moments VoiceOver accessible by sending a tweet to either 
> @support or @twitter, or by sending an email to supp...@twitter.com or 
> by posting a comment in the app-review area of iTunes.
> 
> Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy!
> 
> Mark
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RE: Getting a setting to stick in iBooks

[M. Taylor]

Hello Mary,

I'll be happy to test this out for you but please provide the exact steps you 
take in order to configure iBooks.

I will follow those exact same steps and report back later.

Mark

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On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 8:35 AM
To: viph...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Getting a setting to stick in iBooks

In iBooks on the iPhone and the iPad, and I assume on the Mac, although I do 
not use iBooks on my Mac, as it is a big pain in the backside, you have the 
option of having your books display as bookshelf, by author, by title, or by 
category. I want my books displayed in order of title within my various folders 
in iBooks. I double tap that button, but every time I do something in iBooks, 
it reverts to "bookshelf". I have checked in settings, there seems to be no way 
to set this permanently. It just keeps on defaulting to bookshelf, the worst 
choice, in my view. Is there anyway to set it and forget it?

Mary


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RE: Getting a setting to stick in iBooks

[M. Taylor]

Hello Mary,

Well, I can confirm your findings.  However I am not certain this is a bug; 
although you should definitely report this to Apple if you think it should be 
addressed.

To others who may also be interested in experimenting with this, it should be 
made clear that in order to see the Titles button, one must first set the 
display view to List, as opposed to Grid view.  I was unaware of the Titles 
button as I use the grid view in order to browse through my titles.

Mark
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On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 1:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting a setting to stick in iBooks

Hi Mark,
Well, the easiest way is to just open iBooks. Assuming it opens to your my 
books tab, which it seems to do by default, you will find that there are four 
buttons near the top, just under the buttons where you set your collection and 
your view, grid or list. These four buttons are on the left, bookshelf, which 
is the default and the one which keeps coming back, then title, author, and I 
can't remember the fourth one since I can't have that open while I am dictating 
this email. Select the "title" button by double tapping it. Close iBooks. 
Remove it from your ass switcher. We open iBooks. It will open to your books 
tab and you will find that once again bookshelf is set, rather than how you 
left it which was titles. I cannot find a way to keep the setting I have 
entered as my new permanent setting.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 6, 2016, at 12:15 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> I'll be happy to test this out for you but please provide the exact steps you 
> take in order to configure iBooks.
> 
> I will follow those exact same steps and report back later.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 8:35 AM
> To: viph...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Getting a setting to stick in iBooks
> 
> In iBooks on the iPhone and the iPad, and I assume on the Mac, although I do 
> not use iBooks on my Mac, as it is a big pain in the backside, you have the 
> option of having your books display as bookshelf, by author, by title, or by 
> category. I want my books displayed in order of title within my various 
> folders in iBooks. I double tap that button, but every time I do something in 
> iBooks, it reverts to "bookshelf". I have checked in settings, there seems to 
> be no way to set this permanently. It just keeps on defaulting to bookshelf, 
> the worst choice, in my view. Is there anyway to set it and forget it?
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Keeping iOS apps in sync with Mac

[M. Taylor]

Hello,  

Well, my answer may seem a bit low tech but if you want to remove the apps from 
your computer and make certain that they are not reinstalled when you next 
attach your iOS device, simply delete the apps from your computer and from your 
phone, separately.  

This is to say:

1.
Make certain that your iOS device is not attached to your computer.

2.
>From within the app section of iTunes on your computer, find the app you wish 
>to remove and, from the shortcut menu, select remove/delete.  Do this for all 
>your unwanted apps.

3.
Now, remove any unwanted apps from your iOS device.  I am assuming these will 
be the same apps that you removed from your iTunes Library in step 2.

Basically, that's all there is to it.  

Now, the next time you connect your iOS device to your computer, there will be 
no apps to or from which to sync.  

Please be aware that, regardless of whether the app is currently residing on 
any of your devices, its purchase is part of your permanent iTunes ID record.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 4:51 PM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Keeping iOS apps in sync with Mac

I generally install apps directly onto my iOS devices. They sync to iTunes 
on the Mac. What I want to do now is clean out some old ones from iTunes then 
do a sync. This does not seem to work so would like to know the proper way to 
accomplish this task. Thanks.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

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RE: Apple store now stocking accessibility items

[M. Taylor]

I tend to agree with you, Donna.

By the way, what is a VU?  You wrote that you like that your VU is completely 
silent.

As for me, I am a big fan of the Focus 40 Blue.  

One thing I cannot stand about using the Focus 40 Blue, in iOS particularly, is 
that one cannot switch the panning keys.  

Currently, although this was not always the case, one could use the left 
panning keys to advance the Braille display.  Now, one can only use the right 
panning key to move right and the left panning key to move left.  

I, however, read Braille with my right index finger.  In so doing, I much 
prefer to pan with my left hand, only.  As it stands, I must now read and pan 
with my right hand.  This causes an enormous amount of fatigue.  

In Windows, using Jaws, there is a reverse pan feature, thank goodness.

I say all this to say that my next Braille display purchasing decision will be 
based on whether or not the device has a hardware, rather than a software, 
feature to allow reverse panning.  

If any of you know of such a device, please let me know.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 12:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple store now stocking accessibility items

Oh, and in answer to your question, Sabahattin, IOS devices are already pretty 
bloody close to replacing a notetaker, at least for me.  But I think it may 
have come as close as its ever going to.  First, it would have to have built-in 
braille, not something paired by bluetooth.  I turn on the device and up comes 
the braille.  There would have to be no lag between the device and the braille. 
  I love that my VU is completely silent.  If I wake up in the middle of the 
night and want to read, I just pick it up and turn it on.  And since I was 
probably in my book in the Word Processor when I turned it off, I come right up 
to the place I left off when I last put it down.  Easy peasy.

It's funny, as I write this, it occurs to me that for me, having a notetaker is 
sort of my equivalent of having a Kindle or a Nook.  And I know sighted people 
who have both a smart phone, and a reading device.  It's really just a reading 
device, and sometimes a quick note-taking device.  I like that it's separate 
from my phone.  My reading will never be interrupted by any game, Facebook, 
text message, phone call, or one of the myriad of other alerts I might get from 
my phone.  This is also why I have a separate iPod.  There's nothing on it but 
my music and audiobooks, for the same reason.  If I'm listening to music, I 
don't want the chatter from my phone cutting into it.  Don't get me wrong, I 
love that my teeny tiny phone can do all this stuff.  And there've been plenty 
of times I was very happy that that was the only device I needed to have with 
me, and it could keep me connected, entertained, and provide me with reading 
and music pleasure.  But when traveling light is not an issue, I prefer doing 
these things on separate devices.  Our phones are great, but boy they do make a 
racket. :)

Just my thoughts.
Cheers,
Donna

> On May 13, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I really dislike the FS braille displays, but did applaud their efforts to go 
> more mainstream than their Humanware rival on the notetaker front.  
> Inevitably, though, I stuck with BrailleNote because their most important 
> function, note-taking and braille translation, remained unparalleled in my 
> opinion, and above all things a note-taker must do is to be efficient, which 
> is another area Humanware really excel at and have done so right through the 
> Apex, which I now have.  Now they’re going Android, there is even more 
> promise there, except for Google and privacy of course, and the fact that 
> it’s running a two-releases-outdated version of Android.  I also much prefer 
> the thumb keys and elegant design of Humanware braille displays to the fiddly 
> alternatives.  But this is all a matter of personal taste, really.
> 
> Now, here’s a question: what would it take to turn an iOS device into a 
> notetaker replacement?
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RE: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows

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Hello Matthew,

One of my favorite Windows applications is Freedom Scientific’s OpenBook OCR 
program with the Pearl Camera.  

To my knowledge, there is no OS X equivalent.  OpenBook with the Pearl camera 
is absolutely awesome.  

Mark


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Matthew Dierckens
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 9:00 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows

My question to anyone who has windows or wants to put Windows on your Mac is 
this. What are you wanting to do on windows that you don't think you'll be able 
to do on your Mac? The problem usually with those who use windows on the Mac is 
they get stuck with something on the Mac with voiceover and then revert back to 
using windows and sometimes will end up just using Windows on a Mac. I used 
VMware fusion for a while, but no hardly use windows as I can do everything on 
my Mac.
If you ever need any assistance, feel free to reach out to me or anyone on the 
list. This list is a very helpful resource, and even helped me to where I know 
train others on how to use the Mac.
Matt Dierckens
Certified Assistive technology specialist
Macintosh trainer
Canadian phone: 5199629140
U.S. Phone: 5734011018
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 27, 2015, at 09:23, Rhonda Partain  wrote:
I am just wondering if both VM-Ware Fusion and Bootcamp are needed in order to 
run Windows on a mac?
I have both on my system  and have difficulty switching between windows and the 
mac system; I do not see the bootcamp disc in the settings to select which disc 
one wants to startup.
Thanks for any thoughts.
Rhonda “Who know very little about the Mac”
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RE: Why is mail consistently quitting after update to El Capitan?

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Hello Christine,

Did you manage to get your El Capitan mail application problem resolved?

Mark



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Subject: Why is mail consistently quitting after update to El Capitan?

I finally took the plunge and updated. Everything seems to be absolutely fine, 
except for mail. It keeps quitting. I have tried rebooting twice, but to no 
avail. It is driving me crazy. Please assist.
Christine

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RE: Us congress hearing of maan alsaan Money laundry قضية الكونغجرس لغسيل الأموال للمليادير معن الصانع

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Mark





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Subject: Fwd: Us congress hearing of maan alsaan Money laundry قضية الكونغجرس 
لغسيل الأموال للمليادير معن الصانع




 
US Congressional Hearing of 
 Saudi billionaire" maan  Al Sanea "
 and Money Laundering  
with bank of America 
 
With Arabic Subtitles
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIBNnQvhU8s
 
 

موقع اليوتيوب الذي عرض فيديوهات جلسة استماع الكونجرس الأمريكي 
 لمتابعة نشاطات غسل الأموال ونشاطات
 
السعودي معن عبدالواحد الصانع  
مالك مستشفى  وشركة سعد  ومدارس سعد بالمنطقة الشرقية بالسعودية   ورئيس مجلس 
ادارة بنك اوال البحريني
 
 وتعليق محطة سي ان بي سي التلفزيونية 
  
مترجم باللغة العربية

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5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone and Happy New Year,

As the following article includes iOS apps, I am cross-posting it to both
the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list.

The URL to the original article is located at the end of the text.

Enjoy,

Mark

5 Amazing Inventions That Are Helping the Visually Impaired 
By Robert Siciliano
April 27, 2015 

In articles about leadership, we often talk about the importance of having
vision. You need an idea of where you want your company to go and how you'll
get there. You need to know the trends in your industry before they happen
in order to stay on the cutting edge.

The innovations below prove that, and then some. They're designed to help
some of the 6 million Americans who have a visual disability, making it
easier for them to go about their daily lives.

>From shoes that tell you which direction to turn to an app that makes your
iPad Braille-friendly, here are five of the coolest innovations that are
helping the blind and visually impaired.
  
1.
Shoes that guide you in the right direction
if you're walking somewhere new, you no longer need to focus on the audible
directions from your smartphone. Let Lechal shoes or insoles be your guide
instead. The insoles of the shoes connect with the corresponding app
(available for iOS, Android and Windows) via bluetooth. Then, as you walk, a
vibration will alert you when you need to turn. A buzz in your left shoe
will signal you to take a left -- the buzzing gets stronger as the turn
nears -- and a vibration in your right shoe means to turn in that direction.
If you need to turn around, both feet with vibrate at once.

While the footwear can't yet help you avoid obstructions in your path (this
feature is expected in the next model), it allows the 285 million people
around the world with visual impairments to focus more on your environment.
"Touch is such a valuable sense, and it's underused," says Krispian
Lawrence, the founder of Ducere Technologies, which makes the product. "Most
tech today that's available for the visually impaired gives them audio
feedback, but if you're visually impaired, your primary sense is your sense
of hearing, so the feedback is more of a distraction from letting you focus
on what's around you."

The shoes, which an estimated 30,000 people have pre-ordered, are expected
to start shipping early this summer. Bonus: they're also great for
navigating hiking trails.

2.
Glasses that help the color blind see color
Although they look like typical sunglasses, Enchroma Lenses help colorblind
people see all different hues. Color blindness results from spectral
overlap, which is when the photopigments (aka: light-absorbing molecules in
retinal cone cells) absorb more light than they should. Usually, of the
three types of cones in the retina, one absorbs green light, one absorbs
blue light and a third absorbs red light. If a green cone absorbs too much
red light, for example, that spectral overlap means that the person will
have a difficult time distinguishing those colors.

The good news is that in the large majority of cases of red-green
colorblindness (over 80 percent), the amount of overlap is not complete,
making it possible for the lenses in EnChroma shades to help. The exact
technological process is tricky -- it involves computer algorithms and
linear programing before the filter was even created -- but the Cliff's
Notes are that they help to separate the crossing signals between cones,
creating more color variation. This article talks more about it.
 
3.
A bionic eye
You may have seen the video of a man who sees his wife for the first time in
years through the use of the Argus II, a so-called bionic eye. Dr. Robert
Greenberg, CEO of Second Sight, worked for 25 years to make that one
recorded moment possible.

Greenberg is the man behind the Argus II, which is designed to help patients
with retinal pigmentosa -- a degenerative disease that leads to blindness --
to have some form of vision. The system received FDA approval in 2013;
Greenberg received 300 issue patents of technology in the process.

First, in an outpatient procedure, patients are implanted with a small
device that sits on their retinas. The passive device is only activated when
the patients wear the corresponding glasses, which has a camera. Then, when
the glasses are on, the signal from the camera gets turned into electrical
impulses on a patient's eye. These impulses allow the patient sees a spot of
light corresponding to what's in front of them.

Dr. Greenberg says the resulting image is low-resolution and in grayscale,
though he has figured out how to produce color and says the device could be
upgradeable. He compares it to lights on a scoreboard or pixels on a
monitor.

More than 100 people have used the device, which retails for just under
$145,000 (plus surgery and physicians fees), and the responses are
universally positive. "We hear many stories about being able to see a loved
one again and move about independently," he says.

4.
An app t

How I Share My Internet Connection When Traveling

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Recently, there was a thread concerning how to share the Internet connection
from a Mac to a Windows computer.  

It got me to thinking about how I share my Mac's internet connection when I
travel.

I have an old-style USB Verizon Wireless Air Card that I plug in to my MBP
when traveling.  Then, I create a WiFi hotspot for all of my devices.  This
comes in handy when staying in a hotel.  

Verizon has long since offered me the opportunity to upgrade my USB air card
for one of its newer wireless air cards but I like the USB form factor as it
does not need to be recharged.  That is to say, as long as my Mac has power,
the air card has power, as well.  As with my A T & T Wireless account, my
Verizon Wireless account is also grandfathered in on the original unlimited
data plan.

Anyway, that's how I share my internet connection when traveling.

Mark

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RE: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Kawal, E.T., and Everyone,

Perhaps this is a brand-specific bug?  

I have absolutely no problem making, receiving, or switching between telephone 
calls using my Plantronics Voyager Edge Bluetooth earpiece.  I am running iOS 
9.2.1 on an iPhone 6 Plus.

Also, I have checked with a couple of people who are running the Plantronics 
Voyager Legend models on 9.2.1 and they, too, report no problems.

Mark

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On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 1:06 PM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.

Yes, the but is still there.  I tried it after the latest update.

Thanks for reporting it if you have.

Kawal.
On 24 Jan 2016, at 18:30, E.T.  wrote:

Kawal,
  If you mean the Bluetooth connection is lost when a call is made, yeah. I was 
not even aware it was a bug for I kept forgetting to look into it. Is it still 
present in cersion 9.2.1? I am afraid to try it. Its time to send a note to 
Apple and remind them. I will do that right now.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 1/23/2016 10:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Morning All, or whatever the day may be for you all.

I hope those of you who are in the affected areas of the US are safe
with the weather being what it is with the lizards etc.

I notice from all the IOS updates, the headphone bug which Jonathan
Mosen went in to details when he did his first podcast on the new IOS
when it came out last September or October still hasn’t been fixed.  I
am very surprised that Apple haven’t managed to fix it yet.  It’s
frustrating that I can’t make any voice calls using my new Aftershokz
Bluez Sports.  By the way, I like the new model of headset.

Thanks.

Kawal.
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RE: Very! very! very very sluggish Voiceover

[M. Taylor]

Hello Chris,

No, I am noticing no additional sluggishness after going from 9.2 to 9.2.1 on 
my 6 Plus.

Mark 

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Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 6:24 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Very! very! very very sluggish Voiceover

Is it just me, or has anyone noticed that with the latest I O S update, and no, 
I’m not speaking of a beta.  This is completely with the official latest build, 
that Voiceover gets ridiculously ridiculously sluggish?  I’ve not tested all 
the voices, but at least with the high quality female Siri voice, it’s very 
noticeable on my IPhone 6S.

I just rebooted the phone, but I’m not seeing much improvement.

I’m finding this is happening most often in the Messages app, although it’s 
happenning globally.  It just seems to be the worst there.

Before anyone asks, No, I do not have much in my app switcher.  In fact, I 
don’t think there’s anything running with the exception maybe of the Messages 
app, and maybe the Audible app, although even when I close either of those, the 
problem doesn’t seem to go away.

Chris.

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RE: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Thuy,

This sounds like a great workaround.  

Although I have not had to use it, I will definitely file it for the future.  

Thank you for posting.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Thuy Mallalieu
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 1:34 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.

Hi Kawal. One workaround for this is to go into 
settings/general/accessibility/call audio routing and setting it to bluetooth 
rather than auto. If you don't have the bluetooth headset switched on, the 
audio still goes through the phone's earpiece as usual, but if the bluetooth 
headset is on, you can use them to make the call as expected. Hope this helps?
Cheers
Thuy

Sent from my iPhone

On 24 Jan 2016, at 21:05, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
Yes, the but is still there.  I tried it after the latest update.

Thanks for reporting it if you have.

Kawal.
On 24 Jan 2016, at 18:30, E.T.  wrote:

Kawal,
  If you mean the Bluetooth connection is lost when a call is made, yeah. I was 
not even aware it was a bug for I kept forgetting to look into it. Is it still 
present in cersion 9.2.1? I am afraid to try it. Its time to send a note to 
Apple and remind them. I will do that right now.

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On 1/23/2016 10:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Morning All, or whatever the day may be for you all.

I hope those of you who are in the affected areas of the US are safe
with the weather being what it is with the lizards etc.

I notice from all the IOS updates, the headphone bug which Jonathan
Mosen went in to details when he did his first podcast on the new IOS
when it came out last September or October still hasn’t been fixed.  I
am very surprised that Apple haven’t managed to fix it yet.  It’s
frustrating that I can’t make any voice calls using my new Aftershokz
Bluez Sports.  By the way, I like the new model of headset.

Thanks.

Kawal.
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RE: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.

[M. Taylor]

7;s ear tip for a spell, however, I was able to find 
my personal sweet spot. Basically if I angled the ear tip's stabilizer loop so 
that it hooked into the inner fold of my ear, then the device stayed put. And 
because the headset became more stable using this technique, its comfort and 
fit improved greatly.

Bluetooth abilities and other extras
Supporting the Bluetooth 4.0 standard, the Voyager Edge packs in plenty of 
slick capabilities which belie its slim profile. The device uses a group of 
three microphones which work in unison to stamp out background noise and 
transmit your voice cleanly to people on the other end of the call.
Essentially it's the same hardware onboard the larger Voyager Legend, and in 
theory trumps the noise-cancellation systems of the Jawbone Era and older 
Discovery 975SE (both have dual mics).

Other tricks the Edge has in its tool belt are dual-capacitive sensors to 
detect whether you're wearing it or not. Users can simply place the Edge in 
their ear when a call comes in and the headset will automatically answer.
And because the device supports voice commands, you can also pick up incoming 
calls by saying, "Answer." If English isn't your tongue of choice, the Edge 
offers Spanish, French, Cantonese, and Mandarin as well. 

http://www.cnet.com/products/plantronics-voyager-edge-jet-black/





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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.

HI Mark,

You say you've got the Plantronics Voyager edge headset,

 I see there are a a number of different models of the Plantronics Voyager 
devices  There is the legend , the legend UC and the voyager legend CS which I 
take it is more of a VOIP or PABx phone system device.

But there also appears to be multiple versions of the voyager edge,

 Which is the better device to buy and what the hecks the differnces?
I couldn't see a lot with the legends, other than one had volume controls and 
one didn't I'm just wondering which is the better device to buy 

Regards,


Simon F
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, 25 January 2016 3:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.

Hello Kawal, E.T., and Everyone,

Perhaps this is a brand-specific bug?  

I have absolutely no problem making, receiving, or switching between telephone 
calls using my Plantronics Voyager Edge Bluetooth earpiece.  I am running iOS 
9.2.1 on an iPhone 6 Plus.

Also, I have checked with a couple of people who are running the Plantronics 
Voyager Legend models on 9.2.1 and they, too, report no problems.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 1:06 PM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.

Yes, the but is still there.  I tried it after the latest update.

Thanks for reporting it if you have.

Kawal.
On 24 Jan 2016, at 18:30, E.T.  wrote:

Kawal,
  If you mean the Bluetooth connection is lost when a call is made, yeah. I was 
not even aware it was a bug for I kept forgetting to look into it. Is it still 
present in cersion 9.2.1? I am afraid to try it. Its time to send a note to 
Apple and remind them. I will do that right now.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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On 1/23/2016 10:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Morning All, or whatever the day may be for you all.

I hope those of you who are in the affected areas of the US are safe with the 
weather being what it is with the lizards etc.

I notice from all the IOS updates, the headphone bug which Jonathan Mosen went 
in to details when he did his first podcast on the new IOS when it came out 
last September or October still hasn’t been fixed.  I am very surprised that 
Apple haven’t managed to fix it yet.  It’s frustrating that I can’t make any 
voice calls using my new Aftershokz Bluez Sports.  By the way, I like the new 
model of headset.

Thanks.

Kawal.
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RE: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Scott,

I think your analysis is spot-on and well-put.

I will defer to you as to which is the better with regard to noise 
cancellation.  I cannot tell a difference between the two but I do have some 
hearing loss that no doubt impairs my ability to judge.  I think they both 
sound great.

As for battery life, it would make sense that the Legend do slightly better as 
it's battery is larger.  

I love the fact that I can wear the Edge, without an ear-loop, comfortably.  
And, because the earpiece sits outside the ear-canal, I enjoy ambient sound, 
crucial to me when navigating about the city.  

Sometimes, I have honestly forgotten I was wearing the Edge.  A couple of weeks 
ago, I was searching for the darn thing when someone said, "Isn't that it, in 
your ear?"  It really is that lightweight and comfortable, to me.

The biggest deal-breaker for me is the Legends proprietary connector.  As a 
long-time Plantronics fan, discovering that they had changed the connector, on 
the Legend, just ticked me off--it's really that simple and I've never gotten 
over that resentment (smile).  How's that for honesty?  (smile)

When it's all said and done, I think both devices are world-class and worth the 
money.

Yes, it is nice to know that there is another headset enthusiast in the group.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 7:01 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.

Only 18 headsets Mark, why so few?

:)

As someone who also changes headsets like they do clothes, I also like both of 
these head sets.  I however am the reverse of you and prefer the Legend over 
the edge and heres my thoughts, let me know if you think I’m nuts or not.

The noise cancelation on the legend is the best.  The edge is very good don’t 
misunderstand but the legend is just that little bit extra.  I have tested both 
in very high noise environments (data centers with powerful cooling and tens of 
thousands of nodes).  Both do well, the legend is a bit easier for the far end 
caller to hear in my experience and while both have excellent battery life the 
legend is a bit better and will give you in my experience a full work day.
The Edge is great for someone who wears glasses because you do not have 
to use the loop to wear it safely and comfortably.  However, the legend can fit 
behind your ear and while it’s more bulky glasses can be negotiated.

I would break them down this way.  The edge is the more stylish light weight 
version that you might wear to business meetings or out etc.  Similar to the 
jawbone it’s very stylish and has a stylized shape etc.  If what you want 
though is a serious work horse that has the absolute best noise cancelation and 
is designed for use in harsh environments the legend is for you.  Bottom line 
though and I think Mark would agree both are great headsets.

I do like your point on the proprietary cable but I would point you at the 
excellent charging case you can get for the legend where using that magnet it 
fits nicely inside and gives you extra charges on the fly.  Also gives you a 
reset button so you can reset the hardware if needed which I haven’t had to yet.

Nice to see another headset enthusiast.  Honestly I have yet to find one that I 
would give 5 stars but I am very picky.

> On Jan 26, 2016, at 3:52 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Simon,
> 
> Generally speaking, I recommend the Edge over the Legend.
> 
> Below I am going to paste in my original comments on the Edge along with a 
> cNet review of the product.
> 
> I hope you find it useful.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Original Post from Mark:
> Subject: I Strongly Recommend The Plantronics Voyager Edge Bluetooth 
> Single-Ear Headset
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> After all of the comments regarding the Voyager Legend headset, I decided to 
> purchase a new Bluetooth headset, also.  
> 
> Because of a couple of things I don't like about the Legend, for example the 
> proprietary charging connection, I decided to go with the Voyager Edge.  
> 
> I love this device.  It is absolutely the most comfortable and 
> responsive Bluetooth device I've owned, to date.  I have owned and 
> used no fewer than
> 18 Bluetooth headset devices since 2007.  The Edge builds on the Legend's 
> outstanding performance but returns to some industry standard protocols, for 
> example, the original charging cable connection.  Like the Legend, it does 
> have a hardware on and off button.  
> 
> What I really like about the Edge is that one can disable some of the 
> features of the device, for instance, the auto Answer/Reject prompts.  There 
> have been many times when I was talking to someone when a call came in and 
&g

RE: Blind drones and tech mailing list

[M. Taylor]

Hi Scott,

This sounds fascinating.  

Thank you for giving us a "heads-up" and for the invitation.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 11:49 AM
To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via
Subject: Blind drones and tech mailing list

Hi all, hope Mark won’t mind but for folks on the android list you’ll have 
heard I’m experimenting with autonomous flight and drones specifically how the 
blind can use them or if the blind can even use them.  We’ve already 
established the if part and the answer is a definite yes so now we’re working 
on the different devices, flight methods, different technologies and at this 
point just a general familiarization with the field.  Anyone interested please 
head to google groups and join the blind drones and tech list.  Drones are the 
specific area of interest but anything technology / accessibility related will 
be fair game.  I was originally going to do a strict comparison of Apple IOS 
verses Android and the drone flight options but it’s gotten much more involved 
so I think warrants it’s own list.  Anyway, anyone interested come on by and 
check it out or write me off list with your email address and I’ll add you

Thanks
Scott

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RE: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Simon,

Yes, the Edge firmware can be updated; however, I have elected not to update 
mine.  I had a friend update his firmware and he was not happy with the results 
although I cannot remember why.  

My thinking is, if it works, leave it alone (smile).  

Like so many things in life, wearable technology is extremely personal.  It 
took me a long time to discover what it is I (1) want in a headset and (2) what 
I need in a headset.  I suspect the same is true for everyone.  

For me, I prefer single-ear devices that do not impede ambient noise and that 
have the smallest proverbial footprint with the greatest amount of playback 
features.  While I see well enough to use a soft on-off button, I prefer a 
hardware on/off switch.  I do not use my Bluetooth headset for high quality 
sound playback but simply as a way to quickly interact with my phone, while on 
the go.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 10:07 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.

So Scott and Mark,

 I assume as it's been around a while the legend doesn't use Bluetooth 4 and 
only pairs with 1 device where as the edge can take 2 at once.

 Also what is the difference between the legend and the legend UC

And is the legend as big as the documentation makes it sound?



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, 27 January 2016 3:50 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.

Hello Scott,

I think your analysis is spot-on and well-put.

I will defer to you as to which is the better with regard to noise 
cancellation.  I cannot tell a difference between the two but I do have some 
hearing loss that no doubt impairs my ability to judge.  I think they both 
sound great.

As for battery life, it would make sense that the Legend do slightly better as 
it's battery is larger.  

I love the fact that I can wear the Edge, without an ear-loop, comfortably.  
And, because the earpiece sits outside the ear-canal, I enjoy ambient sound, 
crucial to me when navigating about the city.  

Sometimes, I have honestly forgotten I was wearing the Edge.  A couple of weeks 
ago, I was searching for the darn thing when someone said, "Isn't that it, in 
your ear?"  It really is that lightweight and comfortable, to me.

The biggest deal-breaker for me is the Legends proprietary connector.  As a 
long-time Plantronics fan, discovering that they had changed the connector, on 
the Legend, just ticked me off--it's really that simple and I've never gotten 
over that resentment (smile).  How's that for honesty?  (smile)

When it's all said and done, I think both devices are world-class and worth the 
money.

Yes, it is nice to know that there is another headset enthusiast in the group.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 7:01 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.

Only 18 headsets Mark, why so few?

:)

As someone who also changes headsets like they do clothes, I also like both of 
these head sets.  I however am the reverse of you and prefer the Legend over 
the edge and heres my thoughts, let me know if you think I’m nuts or not.

The noise cancelation on the legend is the best.  The edge is very good don’t 
misunderstand but the legend is just that little bit extra.  I have tested both 
in very high noise environments (data centers with powerful cooling and tens of 
thousands of nodes).  Both do well, the legend is a bit easier for the far end 
caller to hear in my experience and while both have excellent battery life the 
legend is a bit better and will give you in my experience a full work day.
The Edge is great for someone who wears glasses because you do not have 
to use the loop to wear it safely and comfortably.  However, the legend can fit 
behind your ear and while it’s more bulky glasses can be negotiated.

I would break them down this way.  The edge is the more stylish light weight 
version that you might wear to business meetings or out etc.  Similar to the 
jawbone it’s very stylish and has a stylized shape etc.  If what you want 
though is a serious work horse that has the absolute best noise cancelation and 
is designed for use in harsh environments the legend is for you.  Bottom line 
though and I think Mark would agree both are great headsets.

I do like your point on the proprietary cable but I would point you at the 
excellent charging case you can get for the legend where using that magnet it 
fits nicely inside and gives you extra charges on t