Re: MD: The French Horn Glitch - Urban legend
Martin Schiff wrote: As I suspected, this story seems to be an urban legend (at least based on my tests). I used your file LoHorn.wav and recorded it digitally on my Sharp The first time this problem was discussed on the list, it was a completely different sound that caused it. I can't remember who discovered it but I can remember the sound - it was a bassy percussive type sound that sounded very synthesized, and I just thought that the synthetic nature of the sound was what caused it, ie. a strange waveform that the psychoacoustic model couldn't handle somehow. When the French Horn recording problem was then discovered, it eliminated that possibility because it was directly from a microphone. I'd also like to add that I didn't discover the problem, but followed it up with a second test when the original French Horn player (who's name I also don't remember) discovered it. I was able to reproduce the noise using my cousin's 722, using a digital link from a SB Live. I guess there's a possibility that not all units are affected - there may have been a bad batch of ATRAC chips that found their way into production. Intel seem to be able to do it all the time, why not Sharp? -cb - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Atrac-bug (French horn solo)
Joost de Meij wrote: I downloaded both files, and played them in Winamp... The first file (LoHorn) sounded fine, but when i played the second file (Horn722), i almostly blew my speakers!!! Horn722 is the result of recording LoHorn on a 722 that I have available to me. There were no download errors - you just heard the result of this bug. -cb - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The French Horn Glitch - Urban legend
Martin Schiff wrote: If you have to go to that much trouble to reproduce this problem, then the chances that it will occur randomly during a recording seem pretty slim. No? It happened the first time that sound sample was recorded when I tested it. No need for looping or anything, just record it from start to finish. I guess another factor that must be considered is whether the PC is playing the file at exactly the right speed. If the speed is wrong the pitch will change and the problem may not show up. -cb - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Mini DV
Hi Rodney, I understand what you are saying but if you consider the price and size of the TRV900 it really is an excellent cam. It is regarded within the TV industry as 'broadcast standard' - but only just. To get real broadcast quality you have to spend megabucks on similar MiniDV or DV format or other digital format cams but with lenses costing anything from $10K upwards, to give a few dB extra in video s/n... The TRV900 has upset a lot of the industry - imagine the guys with $20K + cameras being shown video that is very very close in quality from a $4000 cam (Aus dollars) FWIW, the images from my (PAL) TRV900 look very close in quality to most of what I see on TV or even DVD, viewed on a Sony professional 27" monitor... I do not see the grain you describe, except when shooting under low light conditions with 'gain up', or shooting ruby red colours - the TRV900 cannot focus well on reds and the red does come out quite a different shade... But you do need to get away from the '900's 'auto' mode and set white balance/iris etc manually to get the best of it GB - Original Message - From: Rodney Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 18 December 1999 11:34 Subject: Re: MD: Mini DV Oh, no! That's not what I was saying at all! I watch DVD's through component video and they're excellent. What I'm talking about is Mini DV tape I shoot on the Sony TRV900 3CCD Mini DV camcorder then play back on TV. It never looks as good as even an average DVD. It always has at least some graininess-and this is the very best consumer camcorder Sony makes. To get really professional results, I guess a person would have to invest in much more expensive professional equipment, editing bays and so on. Tape shot on the TRV900 comes across looking like good live cable at its best (shown on a really topnotch TV)-it's actually pretty good but you do see a lot of graininess. Quite frankly, I don't see all that much dfference on playback than tapes shot with a one chip Mini DV. But I guess I'm asking a lot of the format. Really, it's more than fine for traditional consumer camcording-what I'm saying is it is never, ever perfect-the colors are not 100% accurate like on a good DVD. If you compare the film to the subject you just shot, this is apparent. Especially with reds. Playing back tapes on the 3" swivel monitor look fantastic, but then again that is LCD and not a CRT. By the time you play it back on your CRT television, it adds quite a bit of graininess-like all analog TV does. It really is a wonderful format and a wonderful camera, but it is not perfect. Or even close. Although you occassionally see things like "The Blair Witch Project" that were shot on far inferior equipment as films. And a lot of Mini DV and DV Cam footage is used in television, especially by news field reporters. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MiniDisc Weekly News for 19 December 1999
MiniDisc Community Pages News for 13 December 1999 o William Hollingworth has updated his [1]MiniDisc Manager freeware (for Sony decks with S-Link ports) to allow automated recording and track titling of MP3 and CD tracks through an interface with Nirvis' CDJ Music Library software. [1] http://web2.airmail.net/will/mdmanager.html MiniDisc Community Pages News for 15 December 1999 o Graham Baker points out a [1]positive viewpoint towards Sony's MiniDisc Camcorder in Adobe Premier World. [1] http://adobepremiereworld.com/.getarticle/.433537609 o In a [2]May press release from Sony's European Business Products Group they mention that the MiniDisc market is expected to exceed 20 million units worldwide in the year 2001. [2] http://www.dpa-corpcomms.co.uk/clients/sony/1999051113165.html MiniDisc Community Pages News for 17 December 1999 o We're collecting signals that [1]trip up ATRAC, have you got a contribution? [1] http://www.minidisc.org/atrac_breakdown.html o Tascam has upgraded their [2]two professional MD decks to ATRAC 4.5 and offers pdf manuals for the [3]MD-301mkII and [4]MD-801RmkII units. [2] http://www.tascam.com/products/category_minidisc.html [3] http://www.minidisc.org/manuals/MD-301mkII_manual.pdf [4] http://www.minidisc.org/manuals/MD-801RmkII_manual.pdf o Peter Westt spots the [5]Terrac MP3 HiFi component, it plays MP3 CDs as well as normal ones and can be fitted with a hard drive for amassing huge music collections. [5] http://www.minidiscworld.com/terratec_m3po.htm o Top (Tower Records Magazine UK) wrote enthusiastically about [6]Pre-recorded MD in an article last year. [6] http://www.topmag.co.uk/archive/jul98/format.htm o Weibel HiFi in Switzerland offers a [7]selection of MD gear. [7] http://www.weibelhifi.ch/aktions_liste/minidisc_dat.htm o The Robb Report wrote briefly about [8]Minidisc's Revival back in Feb '98. [8] http://www.robbreport.com/backissues/feb98/features/thatshome/minidisc.htm MiniDisc Community Pages News for 18 December 1999 o David Boulet recently contributed a thorough review of the [1]Sony MDS-JB930. [1] http://www.minidisc.org/sony_jb930_review.html o [2]Smalldisc.com opens shop, specializing in Minidisc gear for musicians and composers. [2] http://www.smalldisc.com o [3]Oade Brothers Audio offers a variety of microphones, including some excellent for stealth work. [3] http://www.oade.com/dat/microphones/micro.html o The Sound Professionals points out a clear and comprehensive description of [4]how microphones work. [4] http://arts.ucsc.edu/EMS/Music/tech_background/TE-20/teces_20.html o Robert Berardino spots Sony's [5]Memory Stick Walkman page, the unit supports ATRAC3 and MP3. [5] http://207.121.190.132/b2/index.html MiniDisc Community Pages News for 19 December 1999 o Ian McFarlane and Marc Kieley find news that the Candian Copyright Board has imposed a [1] 60 cent tax on every MD blank sold in Canada. Thomas James finds further word on this in the [2]National Post, and the [3]Globe and Mail. [1] http://www.cb-cda.gc.ca/news-e.html [2] http://www.nationalpost.com/financialpost.asp?s2=canadianbusinessf=991218/154807.html [3] http://archives.theglobeandmail.com/search97cgi/s97_cgi?action=ViewVdkVgwKey=%2Fkarl12%2Fusr%2Flocal%2Fgam%2Fsearch%2Fhtml%2F19991218%2FRTAPE%2Ehtmlamp;DocOffset=1amp;DocsFound=1amp;QueryZip=copyright+boardamp;Collection=TGAMamp;SortField=sortdateamp;ViewTemplate=GAMDocView%2Ehtsamp;SearchUrl=http%3A%2F%2Farchives%2Etheglobeandmail%2Ecom%2Fsearch97cgi%2Fs97%5Fcgi%3FQueryZip%3Dcopyright%2Bboard%26ResultTemplate%3DGAMResults%252Ehts%26QueryText%3Dcopyright%2Bboard%26Collection%3DTGAM%26SortField%3Dsortdate%26ViewTemplate%3DGAMDocView%252Ehts%26ResultStart%3D1%26ResultCount%3D10amp Minidisco- It's like a box of lovin' with the lid off. http://www.minidisco.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD DIscam vs. Sony DCR-PC100 (off topic)
I was told by one of the mail order camera stores that in reality the PC100 has a 680,000 pixel lens-the 1,070,000 pixels applies only to still photos and then only those stored on a Memory Stick. I would hope this were not true. Does anybody know? Unfortunately it is true - and even worse than that - AFAIK, of the 680K pixels used in video mode, only a % of those are actually used for image capture - the rest of the 680K are used for image stabilisation. (I could be wrong here - it's possible that the 680K are used for capture and 'floated' on the full 1000K for image stabilisation in video mode) The PC100 will not be able to produce the same quality video as the TRV900 due to limitations of it's single CCD, compared to the three CCD's of the '900 - colour depth and contrast ratio will suffer. Also there is some concern (on DV-L) that by squeezing 1000K pixels on to a 1/4" chip the individual pixel size is very small making the PC100 less sensitive and a poor performer in low light conditions. It sounds to me like you don't know that the TRV900 and the DCR-PC100 are actually the same camera, only the PC100 has a different coloured chassis, has the buttons organised more for a more professional user and uses the DVCAM tape format ( I think you are mixing up model #'s here - the PC100 is actually a new version of the single chip PC1/PC3. It has a 'megapixel' CCD for high quality still capture to memory chip - resolutions of 1152 x 864 (PAL) are possible, compared to standard DV stills of 720 x 576 (PAL) It's the PD100 that is the DV CAM version of the TRV900. The buttons are exactly the same except for the IRE being two-stage on the PD100 and replacing the 'start/stop mode' switch. GB - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Titling with HP 48 series
On 12/15/99 2:01 PM, Ralph Smeets wrote: As a last note, I must say, the HP48 calculator series of Hewlet Packer are the best in the world. Why? You can title MDs with them. Wait! How? I have a 48G and would love to be able to do this! Let us in on the info, Ralph :-) I have an HP48G also, but what are the benefits of titling with it? After all, it has the same ABCD alpha layout and equally as small buttons as the remote that came with my JB920??? The benefit is that you title with a text editor on a MS-Doze machine. You feed the file with titles into a MS-Doze program and this program spits out a HP48 program that is sort of a macro which control the remote control program on the HP48. All you need to do is to download the HP48 program to you HP48, lign the HP48 IR port up with the IR receiver on the Sony deck and run the program. It sounds like a lot of hasle and I'm sure Martin Daneks? WinRemote works a lot easier, but it saves a lot of time doing the titling. Writing the tst file, passing it true the MS-Doze program and putting it on the HP48 doesn't take as much as time as titling with just the remote does! Hi Ralph (and the rest), It's unbelievable, i've got a HP48G too :-) Great little engenious device, of course i've upgraded the memory from 32k to 128k :-) But what I'd like to ask you all if there's some info out there on that titling stuff, is it possible to write such a program for the sharp... ie, can the sharp receive titling info via optical in? if so where would I be able to get the info on how I need to send the data Thanks to anyone who can help. Bye, Remko van der Vossen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Black Angel, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 48056779 EDA and owner of [EMAIL PROTECTED] fan of Jewel, The X-Files, Chris Carter, Mac Gyver, BtVS, Jane Jensen's Gabriel Knight Pretty; "There is a pretty girl on the Face of this magazine And all I can see are my dirty hands turning the page" Jewel - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD DIscam vs. Sony DCR-PC100
Right. The DCR-PC100 is one of the cigarette sized box ones. It's the latest U.S. model. It appears in the latest Sony Style (the one with Milla Jovovich) on the front cover on page 91 Besides a photo of the camcorder itself with i's two and a half inch swivel screen open, a brief synopsis spells out a few highlights: Digital Video Recording First Mega Pixel CCD DV Camcorder (1/4"-1070k Pixels) (We have since learned here thanks to Graham Baker, in reality it uses only 680k for Video, the extra pixels are for still shots only which is a shame since the TRV900 has 1,140,000 total pixels, if 1,070,000 pixels on this camera were actually used for Video, quality would be very, very close to the TRV900. But they're not.) 520 Lines Of Horizontal Video Resolution (Don't know how this can be true in relation to the above. While Sony isn't exactly engaging in misleading advertising, they are certainly embellishing the truth. I think most people who buy this camera will never know they're getting only 680k pixels for Video, not the 1070k claimed by Sony.) Memory Mode With Memory Stick Digital Storage Media High Quality Mega Pixel 1152 x 864 Still Image Resolution (this is where the 1070k pixels are used) Advanced 'HAD' CCD Technology (Sounds very impressive, right? A quick glance at Sony's still digital cameras reveal they use this technology. Of course, if you didn't invesigate throughly (in this case you would have to do much more than just ask a salesperson) you would believe this applies to Video, because that is what is clearly implied, rather than still images only. It would be nice if Sony could make their digital still cameras capable of shooting and storing not just MPEG video, but MPEG2 video and you could really be off and running with a high quality camcorder. And it would be a real reason for people to move into adapting Sony's Memory Stick tecnology if real time MPEG2 video could be stored on them, transferred and edited into film any way the user desired. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: 20 Memorex Minidiscs for $34.99 at www.jandr.com
Circuit City has these 20 packs for $29.99. The don't have sleeves, but you get four plastic storage cases which hold five each. Paul -Original Message- From: Steven Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 10:53 AM Subject:Re: MD: 20 Memorex Minidiscs for $34.99 at www.jandr.com After finally sorting through all it seemed half a zillion emails (last time I'll subscribe to 3 lists at one time), I'm back on This does sound like a great deal, especially at $1.75/each. I've had a 10-pack of Memorex, that I haven't even used up yet, so I'm sure 20 would last quite awhile. Still, I do have a lot of archiving of cassettes to do still. I haven't had any problems with Memorex, though I've heard it's not totally trustworthy... has anybody heard any facts to substantiate this rumor? Steve "We found you in the spare room with your eyes no longer there / The lamp flex led up to your heart like a divers cord for air / We electrolysed your mind / And analysed your limbs / Escapist rap -- I've had all that / Now it's me that's going to win" 'Pressure' (Sunscreem) Please respond to To: Robert J Maggio [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bcc: Steven Brooks/HOME_OFF/AGLIFE) Subject: Re: MD: 20 Memorex Minidiscs for $34.99 at www.jandr.com Thanks for the note Robert, I'm forwarding it to the MD mailing list. -Rick Robert J Maggio writes: Yesterday, I received the latest JR catalog and happened to find an ad for 20 Memorex MD blanks for $34.99. I believe that is the lowest advertised price ever for blank minidiscs. Here is the link for the ad at www.jandr.com: http://www.jandr.com/oasis/bin/objectbuilder.dll?MAX_SEQ_NUM=1EXEC_SEQ_1= OB_RPC%2cJANDR_GetDisplayInfo_USR%2c@remote_user%2c@Product_Id%2c@Mode%2c+% 2c+%2c+%2cd%3a/http/oasis/displays/primary/primary.tem%2cd%3a/http/error.te mMode=0Product_Id=17710.0SQL_TYPE_Product_Id=SQLNUMERICSQL_TYPE_Mode=SQ LINT4 - - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Mini DV compared to DVD (=film). sligtly out of this grops topic...
At 16:34 1999-12-17 -0800, you wrote: Oh, no! That's not what I was saying at all! I watch DVD's through component video and they're excellent. What I'm talking about is Mini DV tape I shoot on the Sony TRV900 3CCD Mini DV camcorder then play back on TV. It never looks as good as even an average DVD. It always has at least some graininess-and this is the very best consumer camcorder Sony makes. To get really professional results, I guess a person would have to invest in much more expensive professional equipment, editing bays and so on. Tape shot on the TRV900 comes across looking like good live cable at its best (shown on a really topnotch TV)-it's actually pretty good but you do see a lot of graininess. Quite frankly, I don't see all that much dfference on playback than tapes shot with a one chip Mini DV. But I guess I'm asking a lot of the format. Really, it's more than fine for traditional consumer camcording-what I'm saying is it is never, ever perfect-the colors are not 100% accurate like on a good DVD. If you compare the film to the subject you just shot, this is apparent. Especially with reds. Playing back tapes on the 3" swivel monitor look fantastic, but then again that is LCD and not a CRT. By the time you play it back on your CRT television, it adds quite a bit of graininess-like all analog TV does. It really is a wonderful format and a wonderful camera, but it is not perfect. Or even close. Although you occassionally see things like "The Blair Witch Project" that were shot on far inferior equipment as films. And a lot of Mini DV and DV Cam footage is used in television, especially by news field reporters. To see graininess You must use it in auto mode (or do it by Yourself) and let it gain the exposure up to something between 6-18db, or else it´s impossible to see grain with a Trv900. But i hope You don't use component video instead of a s-video connector together with a decent TV, in that case i understand that You are unsatisfied with the results. The colors this camera produce is outstanding, but off course You have to know how to do a manually white balance, or else it´s like any other cheap miniDV. But it´s true that red can be a problem, but the only reason its better on a DVD playback is that the source is film. So if You think You can compare DV to DVD You cant because what You do is compare it to film. It doesn´t matter what kind of video camera You buy, film is 24frames a second - Video(NTSC) 30. Film has a bigger resolution, even 16mm, and 35mm has four times more resolution than 16mm... The picture from the Trv900 is as good as it can be for the moment, and even if you use a better (more expensive) editing bay You only going to save times these days, it´s all about ones and zeros...The quality is all the same. So, all video looks like video unless You take care and use short deep of field (large aperture) and a shutter speed around 1/30 (often impossible with an expensive ENG camera...). To do this You often have to use ND filter. Many times You have to soften the images a little, using a light softfilter and/or some other warmup filters. Another thing that is significant for film and the work with it is the proper use of light and shadows. Film has a broader exposure range than video, so that is one thing to think of and work after. Using a video camera with progressive scan is another tips. That´s the only way to make video look more like film. Then if you for some reason want to transfer it to DVD it´s going to look a lot better than regular DV or video compared to film... JJ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: MD..Re: Excellent Speaker System For MD And Just About Anything Else
I have a set of these speakers and they really do sound VERY nice. Normally, I only use the front speakers, which I have connected to a Mackie mixer which takes inputs from my computers and Sony MXD-D3 (CD/MD). The back speakers are connected directly to the rear outputs of the Xitel Storm Platinum on my desktop PC, which I can use to play DVD's in surround sound (using CyberLink PowerDVD 2.5), or 3-D games. However, I have noticed one big problem.. perhaps it's a defect in the set I have. There's a subtle hiss (sounds like white noise) coming from the back two speakers that I can't figure out how to get rid of. It doesn't matter if I have the rear input connected to my computer or not plugged in at all, it doesn't matter what the volume knobs are set to, and it seems to be coming out of the rear outputs, because I can hear it with either set of speaker wires or any of the four satellites. There is also a *VERY* quiet hiss coming from the front speakers, but I can only hear it if I put my ear right up to the speaker, so it's not a problem.. The hiss from the rear speakers, OTOH, is easily drowned out if I'm actually playing music, but in a quiet room, I have to unplug the rear speakers or else it starts to get really annoying! Has anyone else with these speakers noticed anything like this? I'll have to send some mail to Klipsch and see what they have to say... -Jake - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: md-l-mimedigest V2 #461
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I have read and re-read the specifications of the DCR.PC-100 and nowhere do I find any mention whatsoever of a 3CCD, which is to be found on the TRV-900, which I happen to own. I would much prefer to have a more compact unit which would encourage me to carry it with me when away from the house, if not on my person at last being handy in the car. The single feature that I am not prepared to sacrifice for this convenience is the 3CCD. It sounds to me like you don't know that the TRV900 and the DCR-PC100 are actually the same camera, only the PC100 has a different coloured chassis, has the buttons organised more for a more professional user and uses the DVCAM tape format (the primary difference between DVCAM and the consumer DV is that DVCAM runs at a higher tape speed, and i think cliplink comes into it somehow, too.) So they have the same 3CCD block, and thus the same resolution, same lens, it's all very similar, and the main difference that sony pushes is the tape speed, which they say is more reliable under mobile conditions. Christopher Spalding Genius, generally excellent and gifted person. (ICQ#: 43270049) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD DIscam vs. Sony DCR-PC100
1) A 120 minutes movie on a DVD takes less than 4GB, that comes down to less than 35MB per minute! Yep, and you'll notice that DVD videos are only consumer releases, since although they're better than VHS (which is actually the worst form of video storage, they are actually very high compression. the DVD video artifacts are hard to notice, because MPEG-2 compresses using GOP (groups of pictures), whereas I think DV is on a frame by frame basis, which is much quicker, and thus is (was if you're right about the ompression) more feasable for on the fly in camera use. Also, there is very heavy compression on the audio of DVDs, I'm sure you've heard it, whereas there is none on DV. 2) Somewhere I heard the MDCam uses the same compression as DVD Video, Well, the data size matches roughly, so that could be possible. 3) Are you sure its 10 minutes for 2 GBytes and not 10 minutes on 2 Giga Bits? Absolutely certain. I edit with it, data space is always foremost on my mind. DVD based video recorders for the home consumer are starting to be introduced. I'm sure people will accept that quality! I'm inclined to say that DV is better than DVD, but i still haven't had a chance to look at DVDs on TV, so i really can't. but once again, these releases are for the /consumer/ market. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Image is nothing. Sound is everything. Obey your ears. [OT]
So what? It still sucks big-time. I've never seen a DVD player for a PC
have problems with playing audio CD-R's - so I obviously never thought to
check that particular factoid about my Sony DVD player before buying it.
And I mean, really, who gives a crap if it requires engineering effort -
it's not like it hasn't been done before. It's not exactly rocket science
('specially for someone like Sony). I personally think it's because Sony
thinks CD-R's are all recorded by people pirating tunez, which is not the
case here - i just made some mix CD-R's from my CD's and now they're
basically useless, unless I play them in my 'puter. sheesh how dumb
just my 2 cents,
mark
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Kade Hansson
Sent: December 16, 1999 6:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: MD: Image is nothing. Sound is everything. Obey your ears.
At 05:40 PM 12/16/99 -0500, MS wrote:
I think it's ridiculous that the Sony consumer decks that sell for $350-400
US (like the Sony MXD-D3) don't have digital output. I also bought a Sony
DVD deck that would not play CDR audio discs (they are deliberately
designed
so that they will not play them).
Yeah right. You do know that it requires extra engineering to allow a DVD
deck to read CD-Rs? They are invisible to the typical DVD wavelength laser.
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Re: MD: Mini DV
Oh, no! That's not what I was saying at all! I watch DVD's through component video and they're excellent. What I'm talking about is Mini DV tape I shoot on the Sony TRV900 3CCD Mini DV camcorder then play back on TV. It never looks as good as even an average DVD. It always has at least some graininess-and this is the very best consumer camcorder Sony makes. To get really professional results, I guess a person would have to invest in much more expensive professional equipment, editing bays and so on. Tape shot on the TRV900 comes across looking like good live cable at its best (shown on a really topnotch TV)-it's actually pretty good but you do see a lot of graininess. Quite frankly, I don't see all that much dfference on playback than tapes shot with a one chip Mini DV. But I guess I'm asking a lot of the format. Really, it's more than fine for traditional consumer camcording-what I'm saying is it is never, ever perfect-the colors are not 100% accurate like on a good DVD. If you compare the film to the subject you just shot, this is apparent. Especially with reds. Playing back tapes on the 3" swivel monitor look fantastic, but then again that is LCD and not a CRT. By the time you play it back on your CRT television, it adds quite a bit of graininess-like all analog TV does. It really is a wonderful format and a wonderful camera, but it is not perfect. Or even close. Although you occassionally see things like "The Blair Witch Project" that were shot on far inferior equipment as films. And a lot of Mini DV and DV Cam footage is used in television, especially by news field reporters. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: The French Horn Glitch - Urban legend
If you have to go to that much trouble to reproduce this problem, then the chances that it will occur randomly during a recording seem pretty slim. No? -- Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric Woudenberg Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 2:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: re: MD: The French Horn Glitch - Urban legend "Martin Schiff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I suspected, this story seems to be an urban legend (at least based on my tests). I used your file LoHorn.wav and recorded it digitally on my Sharp MD-R2, then digitally on my Sharp 702, and finally analog through the line in on my Sharp 702. There was absolutely no distortion whatsoever in the recording. All the wave forms are perfectly normal and the copies sound just like the original (hiss and all). I would be happy to provide the wav file to anyone that would like a copy of it. I suspect that the person who originally experienced this problem had a bad cable or some other mechanical/electronic problem. To perform this test properly you've got to make a loop out of the signal you're recording. The number of samples in the loop should be: (number of samples) module 512 == 511 (or 1) Then repeat the loop 512 times (or more). ATRAC's window size is 512 samples (11.6ms) and this 1 sample shift will cause ATRAC to window the signal with every possible alignment boundary. Rick - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MiniDisc TAXES???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * "Ian McFarlane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 17 Dec 1999 | Thats correct, the folks in Canada now TAX BLANK MINIDISCS! On top of = | MDs, they also tax things like CD-R's and blank audio tapes. Head to = | http://www.erzone.net for the full article. This really surpised me! This is news? Minidisc blanks have been so-taxed everywhere else since Day 1. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE4Wtxegl+vIlSVSNkRAmp6AJ9kdDdlwK/Ju12jb9zM8Ykcuv4PUwCg1M50 NfZ1DZdiQPAzcJBNl3cSgIQ= =xCC4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ When not in use, Happy Fun Ball should be Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ returned to its special container and PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ kept under refrigeration. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Mini DV Cam/md-l-mimedigest V2 #461
Wait a minute, Christopher Spalding, genius, excellent person, etc. You were the one who initially said the PC100 was the 3CCD DV Cam version of the TRV900. I and several others on this list then pointed out the DCR-PC100 is not the DV Cam 3CCD version of the TRV900. The DSR-PD-100 is the 3CCD DV Cam version of the TRV900. The DCR-PC100, which you have been reading the manual of, of course, doesn't mention a 3CCD because it is, in fact, a single chip Mini DV Camera. You just got the model numbers wrong, they are really similar. DSR-PD-100 is the 3CCD DV Cam version of the TRV900, the DCR-PC-100 is the 1070k single chip multi CCD Mini DV Cam that has since been revealed by Graham Baker to actually be a 680k CCD for video, exactly the same as the TRV10. Anyway, while on the subject, Graham, could you please post an E-Mail address to subscribe to for those of us interested in joining the DV-L list. Thanks. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: OT: portable DVD
Hahahaha Sennheiser make your imaginary surround sound hat, except it's a surround sound necklace... There's a review of it in the current T3 magazine (UK). It's called the Surrounder, and it's basically a 300 UKP plastic toilet seat-shaped thing with four speakers which you wear while watching films. Apparently it's not much better than headphones, but your friends will thank you over and over for the comedy potential you provide while wearing your surround sound bog seat. I'm afraid I'm not making this up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of nick Sent: 16 December 1999 01:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: OT: portable DVD Nick - picturing a 'surround sound hat,' with front, centre, and rear headphone drivers, with optional top-of-head subwoofer __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Atrac-bug (French horn solo)
Maybe they corrected it. Joost de Meij wrote: Hi all...! I still have it available on my site along with a pic of the waveform: The original file: www.ozemail.com.au/~atrac/LoHorn.wav The same file recorded on a 722: www.ozemail.com.au/~atrac/Horn722.wav I downloaded both files, and played them in Winamp... The first file (LoHorn) sounded fine, but when i played the second file (Horn722), i almostly blew my speakers!!! It sounded awfull! Only some clipping noise-thing I hope this was something with the connection while downloading or so I recorded the French horn solo (first file) on my MD-MT15, and i didn't hear any strange "clicks" or something. Bye, Joost __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MDBUNDLE6 and car adapter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, I just recently bought a Sony MDBUNDLE6 to start myself down the MD road. However, the box says "free car adapter kit offer," but there was no offer in the box. I went back to the store and they cracked open another box to fish one out for me, but that box didn't have one, either. They opened a third, still no luck. Has anyone else run into this? I thought I'd ask here before I spend an eon on hold with Sony. Thanks! -Mike Maybee there was a flyer in the box that you have to send back to Sony and they will send you the adapter kit? Cheers, Ralph - just guessing... -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For many years, mankind lived just like the animals. And then something happened that unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: the Internet Minidisc by Sharp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems rather short sighted of them. Mabye someone could wright a small program to take advatage of the cable. ;-) Well I would allmost say that people who buy the kit are a little bit short shighted. Why? 1) The "Internet Minidisc" doesn't do digital transfers. It depends on the analog out of your soundcard :-( 2) It is marketet as a special cable, but as far as I could read in the specs, it's compatible with all MD recorders. I think it's an expensive audio-cable. 3) Most of the software already existed in some sort of Share/FreeWare form. It smells like a 'how do sell a stupid product that costs $1 to an ignorant customer while asking $70'. Personaly, I think it would have been nice if they had build a device that plugs into the USB bus and into the optical in of your MD recorder. THAT would be a usefull product. Cheers, Ralph -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For many years, mankind lived just like the animals. And then something happened that unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD DIscam vs. Sony DCR-PC100
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Right. The DCR-PC100 is one of the cigarette sized box ones. It's the latest U.S. model. It appears in the latest Sony Style (the one with Milla Jovovich) on the front cover on page 91 That would explain my confusion, sorry 'bout that folks, downunder, in our usual late releases, we have only had the PC3 for a few months. Besides a photo of the camcorder itself with i's two and a half inch swivel screen open, a brief synopsis spells out a few highlights: Digital Video Recording First Mega Pixel CCD DV Camcorder (1/4"-1070k Pixels) (We have since learned here thanks to Graham Baker, in reality it uses only 680k for Video, the extra pixels are for still shots only which is a shame since the TRV900 has 1,140,000 total pixels, if 1,070,000 pixels on this camera were actually used for Video, quality would be very, very close to the TRV900. But they're not.) 520 Lines Of Horizontal Video Resolution (Don't know how this can be true in relation to the above. While Sony isn't exactly engaging in misleading advertising, they are certainly embellishing the truth. I think most people who buy this camera will never know they're getting only 680k pixels for Video, not the 1070k claimed by Sony.) Memory Mode With Memory Stick Digital Storage Media High Quality Mega Pixel 1152 x 864 Still Image Resolution (this is where the 1070k pixels are used) Advanced 'HAD' CCD Technology (Sounds very impressive, right? A quick glance at Sony's still digital cameras reveal they use this technology. Of course, if you didn't invesigate throughly (in this case you would have to do much more than just ask a salesperson) you would believe this applies to Video, because that is what is clearly implied, rather than still images only. Don't be too sure, Sony have sued PowerHAD on their Pro video models for ages now. It would be nice if Sony could make their digital still cameras capable of shooting and storing not just MPEG video, but MPEG2 video and you could really be off and running with a high quality camcorder. And it would be a real reason for people to move into adapting Sony's Memory Stick tecnology if real time MPEG2 video could be stored on them, transferred and edited into film any way the user desired. Christopher Spalding Genius, generally excellent and gifted person. (ICQ#: 43270049) __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Titling with HP 48 series
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/15/99 2:01 PM, Ralph Smeets wrote: As a last note, I must say, the HP48 calculator series of Hewlet Packer are the best in the world. Why? You can title MDs with them. Wait! How? I have a 48G and would love to be able to do this! Let us in on the info, Ralph :-) I have an HP48G also, but what are the benefits of titling with it? After all, it has the same ABCD alpha layout and equally as small buttons as the remote that came with my JB920??? The benefit is that you title with a text editor on a MS-Doze machine. You feed the file with titles into a MS-Doze program and this program spits out a HP48 program that is sort of a macro which control the remote control program on the HP48. All you need to do is to download the HP48 program to you HP48, lign the HP48 IR port up with the IR receiver on the Sony deck and run the program. It sounds like a lot of hasle and I'm sure Martin Daneks? WinRemote works a lot easier, but it saves a lot of time doing the titling. Writing the tst file, passing it true the MS-Doze program and putting it on the HP48 doesn't take as much as time as titling with just the remote does! Hi Ralph (and the rest), It's unbelievable, i've got a HP48G too :-) Great little engenious device, of course i've upgraded the memory from 32k to 128k :-) But what I'd like to ask you all if there's some info out there on that titling stuff, is it possible to write such a program for the sharp... ie, can the sharp receive titling info via optical in? if so where would I be able to get the info on how I need to send the data Thanks to anyone who can help. As far as I know, the S/PDIF standard does NOT support the transfer of titles. I heard here ones on this list that there is a Kenwood CD and a Kenwood MD deck that are able to transfer CDText titles to the MD by using the optical cable, but that's a non standard use of the cable. For the 7xx, there's a sollution using a PC and a little box with hardware that will help you title. Look at the minidisc communitie pages for more information! Cheers, Ralph - Looking for a program that will remote control my HP48S with a PC! -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For many years, mankind lived just like the animals. And then something happened that unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Image is nothing. Sound is everything. Obey your ears. [OT]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So what? It still sucks big-time. I've never seen a DVD player for a PC
have problems with playing audio CD-R's - so I obviously never thought to
check that particular factoid about my Sony DVD player before buying it.
And I mean, really, who gives a crap if it requires engineering effort -
it's not like it hasn't been done before. It's not exactly rocket science
('specially for someone like Sony). I personally think it's because Sony
thinks CD-R's are all recorded by people pirating tunez, which is not the
case here - i just made some mix CD-R's from my CD's and now they're
basically useless, unless I play them in my 'puter. sheesh how dumb
just my 2 cents,
mark
All second generation DVD players read CD-R's.
Cheers,
Ralph - Who's got the impression that the list is drifting far off-topic
with that video-stuff
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Re: MD: MD DIscam vs. Sony DCR-PC100
May I conclude that you're using video in the semi-proffesional domain and not in the consumer domain? Cheers, Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) A 120 minutes movie on a DVD takes less than 4GB, that comes down to less than 35MB per minute! Yep, and you'll notice that DVD videos are only consumer releases, since although they're better than VHS (which is actually the worst form of video storage, they are actually very high compression. the DVD video artifacts are hard to notice, because MPEG-2 compresses using GOP (groups of pictures), whereas I think DV is on a frame by frame basis, which is much quicker, and thus is (was if you're right about the ompression) more feasable for on the fly in camera use. Also, there is very heavy compression on the audio of DVDs, I'm sure you've heard it, whereas there is none on DV. 2) Somewhere I heard the MDCam uses the same compression as DVD Video, Well, the data size matches roughly, so that could be possible. 3) Are you sure its 10 minutes for 2 GBytes and not 10 minutes on 2 Giga Bits? Absolutely certain. I edit with it, data space is always foremost on my mind. DVD based video recorders for the home consumer are starting to be introduced. I'm sure people will accept that quality! I'm inclined to say that DV is better than DVD, but i still haven't had a chance to look at DVDs on TV, so i really can't. but once again, these releases are for the /consumer/ market. -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For many years, mankind lived just like the animals. And then something happened that unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Mini DV Cam/md-l-mimedigest V2 #461
- Original Message - From: Rodney Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham, could you please post an E-Mail address to subscribe to for those of us interested in joining the DV-L list. Thanks. All about DV-L: http://www.DVCentral.org/thelist.html There is also a very active TRV900 list: if you want to subscribe send an empty email to - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and a brilliant TRV900 web page that rivals Ricks MDCP (but not quite:-) http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/index.html Cheers GB - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Image is nothing. Sound is everything. Obey your ears. [OT]
Are CDR's bluish in mirrored image on the playing surface? If so, the weekly HitDisc series D discs (dance only, the A, B and C discs look like mormal CD's) are CDR's. The Sony 7000 DVD Player will play them. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sanyo MDR-4 car stereo
Eric Woudenberg wrote: I own and use a Sanyo MDR-4(Excedio) Car stereo that is a MiniDisc Player/AM-FM Stereo/and CD-Changer Controller. I just thought you might want to add it to the list of available models. (I can EMAIL specs to you if you want.) These units are CHEAP. They only cost like $65.00 at Wal-Mart. YES, Wal-Mart and I'm told by a friend that they're going to reduce the price again... They'd make a great entry-level unit for those wanting to add MD to their cars... Thanks for the note, this sounds fascinating. Any chance you can send in a picture? I'm forwarding your note to the MD mailing list in case others are familiar with this machine. Egads, $65? That's cheap for ANYTHING MD! I've seen car tape players cheaper than that. Could there have been an error in that it's really $165? And at Wal-Mart too??? Proof that MD is going mainstream? :) Anyway, I found a picture of it at: http://www.sanyo.co.jp/AV/CEmedia_e/products/car/MDR-4/MDR4.html Doesn't look as nice as the Sony's, but it sure as heck looks a lot more expensive than $65. Shawn __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
