Re: MD: Linux S/PDIF soundcard
Bert Konstantin wrote: There is a rumour that the Hoontech SoundTrack Digital 4DWave NX (http://www.hoontech.com/product/soundcard/STdigitalNX.htm) supports it. See also http://www.alsa-project.org/~goemon/ I am not shure if the input modul works. I have read reports, that the output works fine. I hope I get more info in the next days from the german distributor. I have the card and the output works fine, I use it to record MP3s to MD. However, the 4DWave NX doesn't do bidirectional SPDIF, which the original poster wanted. According to Claus from RIDI Multimedia it is possible, but very (read: multiple times the card price) expensive to add a digital-in to the card. What are the alternatives ? Now that Creative has released specs for the Live! series, ALSA support is there I think. But do both the digital ports work ? I don't know what that one comment on games was about, but I can play Quake2/Quake3 just fine on my machine. Alexander Dietrich -- | Alexander Dietrich | Norderstedt, Germany | | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Linux S/PDIF soundcard
There is a rumour that the Hoontech SoundTrack Digital 4DWave NX (http://www.hoontech.com/product/soundcard/STdigitalNX.htm) supports it. See also http://www.alsa-project.org/~goemon/ I am not shure if the input modul works. I have read reports, that the output works fine. I hope I get more info in the next days from the german distributor. I have the card and the output works fine, I use it to record MP3s to MD. However, the 4DWave NX doesn't do bidirectional SPDIF, which the original poster wanted. If you go to http://www.hoontech.com/product/soundcard/STdigitalNX.htm you will find: NX DB II 2 ports(I2S) in/out. DAC boxes, Digital AMP, DI 2000, ST D.B III and ST Digital Audio can be connected. ST DB III S/PDIF IN/OUT (Coaxial,AES/EBU,Optical) NX DB II $79 US At http://www.ridimultimedia.de/produkte/nx/index.html I could not find these modules. According to Claus from RIDI Multimedia it is possible, but very (read: multiple times the card price) expensive to add a digital-in to the card. Ok, compared to the card, 79$ are a lot, but it is cheaper than the Midiman Dio 2448 and I think the DIO 2448 is not supported by Linux. Do you know another card with digital in/out cheaper than the 4DWave NX including the ST DBIII module? What are the alternatives ? Now that Creative has released specs for the Live! series, ALSA support is there I think. But do both the digital ports work ? I have read that the Soundblaster cannot copy bit by bit. Bert - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MZ-R91 is the poo.
Hey Jason-How are you? Myname is Basil, and I have a little concern for your mp3s. I am beginner in mp3 collection, but I am very fond of collecting mp3s. So what I need from you is your mp3s. Is there any way whereby you could send me your mp3s on CD, and I would pay you something? Please consider this deal because I am in desperate need for mp3s. Thank You. Reply Soon. Basil Fakhry. - Original Message - From: Lynch, Jason JD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 5:25 AM Subject: MD: MZ-R91 is the poo. Well on friday my first ever minidisc unit arrived on my doorstep. I gotta say my life has changed. I'm a better person. This thing is amazing! Cheers to everyone who helped me with my questions, i'm making my first live recording (connected to the mixer) tonight. Does anyone have any suggestions or pointers that i might find helpful? Also, i don't know if this has been covered (sorry if it has), but is there some sort of unit that will enable an R91 to be interfaced with a PC or to provide digital out, also to make titling a bit quicker (though after much practise i'm landing pretty well on the letter i want almost every time! :) I was gonna say something about this MP3 and MD discussion but it's all pretty well been said. I'd like to see Sony get off their bee-hinds and make the MD more popular. In the last 5 days, i've showed my MD to quite a few friends and they can't believe the thing. They all want one. But MP3 still rocks, i got over 8GB (along with VQF), hooked up to a few hundred watt hifi system, great for partys... i don't see why MD and MP3 should "compete". Hope that made sence (probably not). Time to title the next track... ...Jason EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MD, MP3, SCMS, RIAA, etc.
The popularity of MP3 proves that high sound quality is not paramount to the success of an audio medium. Given this, isn't all of this copy protection crap futile? If I buy a recording (on any medium), I can play it. If my ears can hear it, I can record it. Equipment makers knock themselves out trying for the best sound reproduction possible, and the best recording quality possible. There really is no way to prevent copying, is there? It might not match the original data 100%, but that doesn't seem to mean a lot. Before I got a CD player with digital output, I made all my MDs using the analog RCA connection. The sound quality must be good enough for me, because I sure haven't bothered to take the time to re-dub my CDs using digital transfer. I think the record companies are wasting a lot of time just chasing their own tails (I was hoping to come up with a better metaphor, oh well). - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Will MD Survive? / CD copy protection
From: Simon Gardner I think it also results in the CD player putting out a duff SPDIF stream too, preventing them from being copied digitally to MD. If that's true, the CDs will be useless for those of us with outboard DACs. I checked the manufacturer's site and as I'd feared, there was no information of real substance...just market-speak. They claim that "CACTUS DATA SHIELD prohibits Internet-piracy by preventing unauthorised transmission of digital files (music, software, and video) over the Internet" which is of course completely ridiculous. There's nothing to stop the digital recording of an analogue source. All they're doing is making it a bit more trouble by adding a step to the process. Rick. -+--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alienshore.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Linux S/PDIF soundcard
Bert Konstantin wrote: Ok, compared to the card, 79$ are a lot, but it is cheaper than the Midiman Dio 2448 and I think the DIO 2448 is not supported by Linux. Do you know another card with digital in/out cheaper than the 4DWave NX including the ST DBIII module? You also need the NX DB II at $24 I believe, which raises the price of digital-in to $103. I also don't know if the digital-in would be supported by the ALSA drivers. Did anyone ever try this ? The Hoontech Digital-XG would be nice, but Yamaha still refuses to release the specs, so no ALSA drivers. :( I have read that the Soundblaster cannot copy bit by bit. If you're talking about the fixed samplerate of 48 kHz, that's apparently the case with every AC97 compliant card. Alexander Dietrich -- | Alexander Dietrich | Norderstedt, Germany | | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Linux S/PDIF soundcard
Ok, compared to the card, 79$ are a lot, but it is cheaper than the Midiman Dio 2448 and I think the DIO 2448 is not supported by Linux. Do you know another card with digital in/out cheaper than the 4DWave NX including the ST DBIII module? You also need the NX DB II at $24 I believe, which raises the price of digital-in to $103. I don't think so, have a look at the pictures at http://www.hoontech.com/product/digitalIObrakets/nxdb2e.htm I believe that the NXDB II is a cheaper digital connections for a digital amp or the external A/D-converter. Anyway, if I need both modules it is still cheaper than the DIO 2448 and I could use the NX for games too, so it seems to me the cheapest possibility for a recording card. Any other suggestions? I also don't know if the digital-in would be supported by the ALSA drivers. Did anyone ever try this ? I am waiting for more than a week for an answer from the german distributor. It seems they have a lot to do at the moment. I have read that the Soundblaster cannot copy bit by bit. If you're talking about the fixed samplerate of 48 kHz, that's apparently the case with every AC97 compliant card. Yes. The plus of the NX is, that there should exist a solution with Linux. With Win you have the 48kHz problem too. Bert - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: opinion wanted
I would like to know if anyone "out there" can give an opinion on whether an
MD recorder/player (preferably a portable one) is available ("for sale") that
will allow the user to "punch in" or "input" a track number (or song number)
and play that track number without having to scroll through other tracks. I
have an MZ-R30 that functions fairly well, but it requires me to "scroll" in
order to play a desired track.
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RE: MD: Linux S/PDIF soundcard
The Hoontech Yamaha XG with the DB1 bracket has optical and coax in and out, and the cost for both is less than $70. -- Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bert Konstantin Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 7:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: Linux S/PDIF soundcard There is a rumour that the Hoontech SoundTrack Digital 4DWave NX (http://www.hoontech.com/product/soundcard/STdigitalNX.htm) supports it. See also http://www.alsa-project.org/~goemon/ I am not shure if the input modul works. I have read reports, that the output works fine. I hope I get more info in the next days from the german distributor. I have the card and the output works fine, I use it to record MP3s to MD. However, the 4DWave NX doesn't do bidirectional SPDIF, which the original poster wanted. If you go to http://www.hoontech.com/product/soundcard/STdigitalNX.htm you will find: NX DB II 2 ports(I2S) in/out. DAC boxes, Digital AMP, DI 2000, ST D.B III and ST Digital Audio can be connected. ST DB III S/PDIF IN/OUT (Coaxial,AES/EBU,Optical) NX DB II $79 US At http://www.ridimultimedia.de/produkte/nx/index.html I could not find these modules. According to Claus from RIDI Multimedia it is possible, but very (read: multiple times the card price) expensive to add a digital-in to the card. Ok, compared to the card, 79$ are a lot, but it is cheaper than the Midiman Dio 2448 and I think the DIO 2448 is not supported by Linux. Do you know another card with digital in/out cheaper than the 4DWave NX including the ST DBIII module? What are the alternatives ? Now that Creative has released specs for the Live! series, ALSA support is there I think. But do both the digital ports work ? I have read that the Soundblaster cannot copy bit by bit. Bert - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: opinion wanted
I don't know about a portable one that will do that, but the Sharp MD-R2
($159 at minidisco.com) has that capability with its remote control.
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I would like to know if anyone "out there" can give an opinion on whether an
MD recorder/player (preferably a portable one) is available ("for sale")
that
will allow the user to "punch in" or "input" a track number (or song number)
and play that track number without having to scroll through other tracks. I
have an MZ-R30 that functions fairly well, but it requires me to "scroll" in
order to play a desired track.
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RE: MD: opinion wanted
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I would like to know if anyone "out there" can give an opinion
on whether an
MD recorder/player (preferably a portable one) is available
("for sale") that
will allow the user to "punch in" or "input" a track number (or
song number)
and play that track number without having to scroll through
other tracks. I
have an MZ-R30 that functions fairly well, but it requires me to
"scroll" in
order to play a desired track.
The remotes that come with most decks do this. I've not seen a portable
that offers that type of functionality though.
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RE: MD: Will MD Survive? / CD copy protection
I think it also results in the CD player putting out a duff SPDIF stream too, preventing them from being copied digitally to MD. If that's true, the CDs will be useless for those of us with outboard DACs. I checked the manufacturer's site and as I'd feared, there was no information of real substance...just market-speak. If you can't play it on your CD player, the goods are "unfit for the purpose" and you have the right to return them. I'm guessing that plenty of people have older CD players (at least in the kitchen/car, etc); if everyone took back their copies they'll make no money and the stores will think twice about bothering to stock their products again. Just like the DVD CSS, this seems to be security through obscurity - taking the "we'll just say it's uncrackable and not let anyone have specs and we'll be fine" attitude. -- Simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Linux S/PDIF soundcard
What the heck does "bit by bit copy" mean? -- Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bert Konstantin Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 5:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: Linux S/PDIF soundcard The Hoontech Yamaha XG with the DB1 bracket has optical and coax in and out, and the cost for both is less than $70. But it does not support bit by bit-copy. Bert - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: MP3 -- Am I the only one that hates it so?
I too think that Sony needs to actually do something about MD. I see
Phillips' CD-R ads ("Got to admit it's gettin' better -- gettin' better
all the time") on TV and elsewhere
If we're thinking of the same ones, I think they're great and the sort of
advertising MD needs. Guy's at home, dubbing some tracks onto CDR, leaves
for the party, starts playing it in his car, gets there and hands it to the
DJ who puts it on. Really emphasises the "home recording" point.
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MD: Sony Shelf System Question (DHC-MD500)
Can anybody tell me anything about the Sony DHC-MD500 Crutchfield has it for a decent price, but I can't find any information on it. Even finding out which ATRAC version would be helpful. Thanks -Jeffrey -- The day MS makes something that doesn't suck will be the day they start making vacuum cleaners. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MP3 -- Am I the only one that hates it so?
J. C. R. Davis, who is all man, wrote, | This brings another point to my mind: I would much rather have some | tangible in hand. I couldn't trust all of this music on computer or a | memory chip (or stick). It just seems to easy to lose everything. If you're using a memory stick player and it gets scrambled, not all is lost. You just have to drop everything, dash home to your computer, and recopy the erased mp3 files into the player. If an MD gets hosed while you're not within reach of your collection, you could just play some of the other MDs you brought along until you get home and can rerecord or recover the damaged MD data. Where's the drama in that? Where's the angst? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Using a Timer with Sony MDSJE530
I intend to replace my cassette deck with the Sony MDSJE530. I frequently make unattended recordings off the radio in conjunction with a timer. Sometimes I will program the timer to record two programs in my absence - say 30 minutes in the morning and 30 minutes in the afternoon. Providing the cassette is long enough this is no problem; the second recording starts after the first finished. I guess it's obvious that a cassette would work in this way but I am not clear that an MD necessarily would. The 530 is designed to work in conjunction with a timer but does anyone know if it works in the same way? It seems logical that it should but I suppose it could do something less helpful e.g. the second recording could overwrite the first. Thanks, Ian - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Linux S/PDIF soundcard
What the heck does "bit by bit copy" mean? Check de.comp.audio for details. With MD bit to bit copy is not possible, when you are recording, since MD compresses music, but if you use your MD-recorder as A/D-converter, it could be important. Let's assume the following: You have a song on a DAT-Tape (DAT does not compress) and you copy the song to the PC as a wave-file, copy it back to DAT and then back to the PC as a wave-file again, but with another name. If you compare both wave-files the files should be identical bit-by-bit. With most cheap-soundcards this is not possible. The reason for the problem is that 44.1kHz signals have to be converted to 48kHz and back to 44.1kHz with "normal" soundcards, because soundcards works with 48kHz internally. (I hope this is exact enough, what I wrote) The question is, if you hear the difference. Bert - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: DIY Microphones
HI all, I've built a pair of DIY mics for doing a bit of recording with my MD. I used a pair of very cheap Electret Condenser Mic Capsules that were so tin that I needed a magnifying glass to see when I was soldering the wires on. I'm powering them from a very basic battery box which uses a dead simple 1 resistor, 1 electrolytic capacitor configuration with a power supply (Taken from the Maplin catalogue and the same as I've seen in the DATHeads FAQ). Ok, here's my questions: I know that by increasing the value of the capacitor I can reduce the bass, but is there a way to boost the treble slightly? The mic spec. states a power supply range of between 1V and 10V, with 4.5V being the "optimum supply". What difference will runnig the mics on this voltage make, as I am currently using a 9V cell. ? Final Q, just in case somebody knows... Is there a way to shrink heat shrink tubing without a hot-air gun? I want to make a stick-mic for my MD and would like to encase the capsule and leads, but don't have a hot-air gun (hairdryer wont be hot enough I'm sure!). Thanks :o) Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Mics
Yowdy, The other night i recorded my first live gig on my MD. The sound guy wouldn't let me plug into the desk, even though the band requested it. Luckily i took along my mic. It was given to me as a gift by minidiscweb, due to the fact that i' requested a blue unit but they only had white. The mic ain't that great; it's a Aiwa Stereo condenser microphone CM-TS22 (marked as a business/live recording microphone). Anyway the recording is pretty good but quite distorted. It was a pretty loud PA, in a smallish bar. It doesn't sound to me like digital distortion (i had my R91 on auto rec. level setting), so i'm guessing it would be the mic that was clipping. On playback however, the signal sits pretty well on full (i'm guessing the wave form has pretty straight edges due to the clipping?). I was going to buy a Soundprofessional AT 853 mic soon. I've heard this is a great sounding mic, but would this also be the solution to the clipping problem? Also, is this one of the best for recording loud indoor (and outdoor) gigs? Cheers, Jason EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: DIY Microphones
I donno about the microphoney/electronics questions there, but about the heatshrink i've put heat shrink on countless cables i've made (multicores, telephone cable, surround sound decoders, power etc) using nothing more but my mums hair dryer... (well that was till she noticed the grease) Jason -Original Message- From: Magic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 27 January 2000 11:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: DIY Microphones HI all, I've built a pair of DIY mics for doing a bit of recording with my MD. I used a pair of very cheap Electret Condenser Mic Capsules that were so tin that I needed a magnifying glass to see when I was soldering the wires on. I'm powering them from a very basic battery box which uses a dead simple 1 resistor, 1 electrolytic capacitor configuration with a power supply (Taken from the Maplin catalogue and the same as I've seen in the DATHeads FAQ). Ok, here's my questions: I know that by increasing the value of the capacitor I can reduce the bass, but is there a way to boost the treble slightly? The mic spec. states a power supply range of between 1V and 10V, with 4.5V being the "optimum supply". What difference will runnig the mics on this voltage make, as I am currently using a 9V cell. ? Final Q, just in case somebody knows... Is there a way to shrink heat shrink tubing without a hot-air gun? I want to make a stick-mic for my MD and would like to encase the capsule and leads, but don't have a hot-air gun (hairdryer wont be hot enough I'm sure!). Thanks :o) Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Will MD Survive? / CD copy protection
Rick Pali wrote: I think it also results in the CD player putting out a duff SPDIF stream too, preventing them from being copied digitally to MD. If that's true, the CDs will be useless for those of us with outboard DACs. I checked the manufacturer's site and as I'd feared, there was no information of real substance...just market-speak. Luckily, that doesn't seem to be the case (again in german): http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/cm-26.01.00-000/ Neither SPDIF outputs nor Audio CD-Copiers like the Philips CDR-765 were affected by the protection. Copies made with the Philips did not contain the protection. So all the people who bought these devices don't look so foolish anymore, eh ? ;) The trick seems to be a fake TOC that gives a runtime of 28 seconds for the CD. PC CD-ROM drives get fooled by this and stop reading. What's interesting is that the article says ALL CD players display a runtime of 28 seconds. So apparently you not only lose the ability to play the CD from your PC, your Hi-Fi CD player looks pretty dumb as well. Alexander Dietrich -- | Alexander Dietrich | Norderstedt, Germany | | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Using a Timer with Sony MDSJE530
On my 520, there is a switch for the timer position. If youhave it in that position, and you connect a timer, it will record when you aren't there. I haven't really experimented with it. THe instructions are a little vague. Ian wrote: I intend to replace my cassette deck with the Sony MDSJE530. I frequently make unattended recordings off the radio in conjunction with a timer. Sometimes I will program the timer to record two programs in my absence - say 30 minutes in the morning and 30 minutes in the afternoon. Providing the cassette is long enough this is no problem; the second recording starts after the first finished. I guess it's obvious that a cassette would work in this way but I am not clear that an MD necessarily would. The 530 is designed to work in conjunction with a timer but does anyone know if it works in the same way? It seems logical that it should but I suppose it could do something less helpful e.g. the second recording could overwrite the first. Thanks, Ian - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Coon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Mics
When you record loud gigs, you should put the Sony in manual record level instead of auto level. When you see the signal level at the top, it will clip no matter what mike you are using. Put it in manual and set it lower, it probably isn't the mike that is doing the clipping, but the recorder. Try it at home and record your stereo with it at or near full volume. Quick, like a bunny, record some in auto and then switch to manual and drop the recording level. by now, your neighbors have probably called the cops, so turn the stereo back down and listen to the results. I think you will find it is the level setting that is doing it. "Lynch, Jason JD" wrote: Yowdy, The other night i recorded my first live gig on my MD. The sound guy wouldn't let me plug into the desk, even though the band requested it. Luckily i took along my mic. It was given to me as a gift by minidiscweb, due to the fact that i' requested a blue unit but they only had white. The mic ain't that great; it's a Aiwa Stereo condenser microphone CM-TS22 (marked as a business/live recording microphone). Anyway the recording is pretty good but quite distorted. It was a pretty loud PA, in a smallish bar. It doesn't sound to me like digital distortion (i had my R91 on auto rec. level setting), so i'm guessing it would be the mic that was clipping. On playback however, the signal sits pretty well on full (i'm guessing the wave form has pretty straight edges due to the clipping?). I was going to buy a Soundprofessional AT 853 mic soon. I've heard this is a great sounding mic, but would this also be the solution to the clipping problem? Also, is this one of the best for recording loud indoor (and outdoor) gigs? Cheers, Jason EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Coon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: DIY Microphones
Magic wrote: HI all, I've built a pair of DIY mics for doing a bit of recording with my MD. I used a pair of very cheap Electret Condenser Mic Capsules that were so tin that I needed a magnifying glass to see when I was soldering the wires on. I'm powering them from a very basic battery box which uses a dead simple 1 resistor, 1 electrolytic capacitor configuration with a power supply (Taken from the Maplin catalogue and the same as I've seen in the DATHeads FAQ). Ok, here's my questions: I know that by increasing the value of the capacitor I can reduce the bass, but is there a way to boost the treble slightly? If you could point us towards the schematic you are using, it would help. The mic spec. states a power supply range of between 1V and 10V, with 4.5V being the "optimum supply". What difference will runnig the mics on this voltage make, as I am currently using a 9V cell. ? Do they show a frequency responce curve? Final Q, just in case somebody knows... Is there a way to shrink heat shrink tubing without a hot-air gun? I want to make a stick-mic for my MD and would like to encase the capsule and leads, but don't have a hot-air gun (hairdryer wont be hot enough I'm sure!). A hair dryer will probably work. Alternately, you can shrink it with the soldering iron. Just hold it over the heated ironand rotate it like it is on a BBQ rotisary. Be careful and don't get it too hot, or touch the iron with it or your fingers. G -- Jim Coon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Mics
Hello: Lynch, Jason JD wrote: Yowdy, The other night i recorded my first live gig on my MD. The sound guy wouldn't let me plug into the desk, even though the band requested it. Luckily i took along my mic. It was given to me as a gift by minidiscweb, due to the fact that i' requested a blue unit but they only had white. The mic ain't that great; it's a Aiwa Stereo condenser microphone CM-TS22 (marked as a business/live recording microphone). Anyway the recording is pretty good but quite distorted. It was a pretty loud PA, in a smallish bar. It doesn't sound to me like digital distortion (i had my R91 on auto rec. level setting), We don't recommend using the auto gain in loud, dynamic situations. This was probably not the source of the distortion, however. so i'm guessing it would be the mic that was clipping. On playback however, the signal sits pretty well on full (i'm guessing the wave form has pretty straight edges due to the clipping?). Right. It could also be caused by "brick walling" the mic input, where the signal coming into the mic input is so high that it is completely distorted. No adjustment of the recording level (automatically or manually) will fix this problem. I was going to buy a Soundprofessional AT 853 mic soon. I've heard this is a great sounding mic, but would this also be the solution to the clipping problem? If you combine it with a battery module and use the line input, yes. Also, is this one of the best for recording loud indoor (and outdoor) gigs? I think I'll let others in the MD community express their opinions on this to keep it unbiased:-) Cheers, Jason EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Chris Carfagno The Sound Professionals 1-800-213-3021 1-856-629-1619 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soundprofessionals.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MP3 -- Am I the only one who hates it so?
First off, I'd like to apologize to Mr. Davis for the "he (or she)" remark. With the initials, I wasn't sure and I thought it would be better to be safe than sorry. As for MD advertising, I've been a subscriber to Sound and Vision for years (previously Stereo Review) and I have seen MD ads. Most recently, a full page ad with a nice picture of a blue MZ-R55. Unfortunately, I have to agree that they haven't done anything catchy on TV like Philips has with the CD-R. I have seen commercials for MD (a couple of High School kids recording mix discs in their room if I recall correctly), but nothing that sticks out in your mind to make you remember. Sony could definately use some better marketing. Craig Bernard - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: MD Blanks in Australian
G'day Jeremy, Thanks for your email man. Yeah MD's are too expensive huh! I get Kodak blank CD-R's for $1.90 each at the local comp fair, but blank MD's are $4.50. You wouldn't know the URL's for any good blank MD suppliers in Japan would you ? Thanks Jason -Original Message- From: Doug, Judy Jeremy Watt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2000 5:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MD: MD Blanks in Australian Hey Jason, I'm lucky enough to have been to Japan a few time in th elast few years and I just stock up there everytime I go. I throwaway bins, these things come out at about $2 Aus quite frequently. If you line up some friends to get you some that's the best way to go. Alternately, buy them from Japan on the net, there are some good places around. I've noticed everywhere else that the price of CD-r's are more expensive than md, but I can get CD-r's here in Oz for about $2.50 Aus a pop, but still pay $5 Aus for a blank MDgo figure!! jeremy in brisbane - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Linux S/PDIF soundcard
Ok, I did some research and understand what bit by bit copy means, but how does it apply to MD? The only way to do a bit by bit copy of anything is to have software that allows you to do it. That means you would have to be using some sort of data drive to copy a disc image of a MD. When you play digital music from a computer wav file or mp3 and record it on a minidisc through a Toslink or coax connection, you are getting a bit by bit copy of the music, no matter what digital card you use. That's the definition of digital storage. It's just 1's or 0's. If there were missing bits, there would be obvious dropouts or digital noise. Even if there is a problem with the source data, it is possible through error correction to reconstruct the bits as they should have been, so you can get a correct digital copy anyway. I really can't see why anything else would be important. Please enlighten me. -- Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Schiff Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 5:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MD: Linux S/PDIF soundcard What the heck does "bit by bit copy" mean? -- Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bert Konstantin Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 5:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: Linux S/PDIF soundcard The Hoontech Yamaha XG with the DB1 bracket has optical and coax in and out, and the cost for both is less than $70. But it does not support bit by bit-copy. Bert - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Linux S/PDIF soundcard
Bert Konstantin wrote: You also need the NX DB II at $24 I believe, which raises the price of digital-in to $103. I don't think so, have a look at the pictures at http://www.hoontech.com/product/digitalIObrakets/nxdb2e.htm I believe that the NXDB II is a cheaper digital connections for a digital amp or the external A/D-converter. The Hoontech site isn't exactly an example of providing clearly understandable information. I can't find any confirmation that either of the DB III brackets can be connected directly to the Digital-NX. I think you need the NX DB II as an intermediate step ? Anyway, if I need both modules it is still cheaper than the DIO 2448 and I could use the NX for games too, so it seems to me the cheapest possibility for a recording card. Any other suggestions? What exactly IS the DIO 2448 ? And while it might still be cheap, it would probably be easier to just get a Live! (no pun intended, honestly !) where you have to deal with only one bracket. And you have confirmed functionality of both SPDIF directions (according to FAQ). If you're talking about the fixed samplerate of 48 kHz, that's apparently the case with every AC97 compliant card. Yes. The plus of the NX is, that there should exist a solution with Linux. With Win you have the 48kHz problem too. Actually, I was told that the 4DWave NX chip can output in 32 and 44.1 kHz as well, just the drivers are locked at 48 kHz. I wonder if that is true. Now since Trident has stopped any involvement in sound hardware (I think I read this somewhere) you can probably forget about this showing up in Windows anytime soon. But since the Linux drivers are open-source, perhaps it can be implemented ? It probably doesn't matter, I guess it wouldn't improve the quality of MP3 - ATRAC transfers at all. :) Alexander Dietrich -- | Alexander Dietrich | Norderstedt, Germany | | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Linux S/PDIF soundcard
The Hoontech site isn't exactly an example of providing clearly understandable information. Indeed! I can't find any confirmation that either of the DB III brackets can be connected directly to the Digital-NX. I think you need the NX DB II as an intermediate step ? Maybe I am sending Hoontech a mail and ask them. Anyway, if I need both modules it is still cheaper than the DIO 2448 and I could use the NX for games too, so it seems to me the cheapest possibility for a recording card. Any other suggestions? What exactly IS the DIO 2448 ? http://www.midiman.com/new.htm DiO 244824 Bit/48 kHz PCI Digital I/O Card The DiO 2448 PCI Digital I/O Card combines Coaxial and Optical digital I/O with stereo analog outputs at a remarkably low price. It's perfect for interfacing to S/PDIF-capable equipment such as DAT machines, MiniDisc recorders, dedicated audio converters, and more. In addition, the built-in D/A converter provides analog audio output for monitoring incoming digital audio. Plug your CD-ROM or CD-R to the internal analog or digital connector, and use the DiO 2448 as your Windows Sound System card. Features: 2-in, 2-out 24-bit/48kHz full-duplex PCI audio interface. S/PDIF inputs and outputs on coaxial (gold-plated RCA) and optical (TOSlink) jacks. Stereo analog output on gold-plated RCA jacks (consumer signal levels). On-board headers accept analog audio from internal CD-ROM players. On-board header accepts digital audio from internal CD-ROM players. D/A converter may be used to monitor digital input or output. Digital input may be bypassed directly to digital output (³audio thru² mode). Supports 44.1kHz and 48kHz sample rates. Windows 95/98 drivers. Minimum System Requirements: Windows 95 or Windows 98 Pentium 200 Mhz 32 MB of RAM UDMA EIDE or SCSI hard disk recommended And while it might still be cheap, it would probably be easier to just get a Live! (no pun intended, honestly !) where you have to deal with only one bracket. Easier, yes. And you have confirmed functionality of both SPDIF directions but no bit-by-bit. (AFAIK) Actually, I was told that the 4DWave NX chip can output in 32 and 44.1 kHz as well, just the drivers are locked at 48 kHz. I wonder if that is true. Now since Trident has stopped any involvement in sound hardware (I think I read this somewhere) you can probably forget about this showing up in Windows anytime soon. Can anybody confirm this too? Bert - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: bit-for-bit copy via S/PDIF (was Linux S/PDIF soundcard)
This is a more complex than it sounds... There are a couple factors that can affect the bit accuracy when going, for example, from a WAV file to MD via (or vice vesa) via SPDIF. 1) Dropped samples due to system activity. My experience is that a bunch get dropped at the same time, causing a "skip". I usually try to close all programs other than the record/playback program. 2) Hardware/software resolution. From what I see on the 'scope, the MDS-PC2 always puts out 20 bit resolution. The motherboard S/PDIF always outputs 16 bit. The DIO 2448 can output/input16 or 24 bits. Most all software will do 16 bits. Cool Edit 2000 has a 32 bit mode that can be used with the DIO to get 24 bit resolution, but it's fairly processor intensive and prone to skipping. Maybe this will change when my memory upgrade comes... 3) Digital Signal Processing in the soundcard. I know that this is present in high-end cards like the ZA2 (which disables it unless you ask for it). Don't know whether the 3D processing some cards do is applied to the digital bitstream or the analog. My guess is that it only affects the analog, because it would require a lot of DSP horsepower. Of all these, I would say that (2) is hardest to detect, unless of course, you monitor the bitsream with a 'scope. There are also a *lot* of other factors that affect the sound quality, if you do *any* manipulation (editing) while the sound file is on the computer. For further reading, I direct you to http://www.digido.com (which I'm not in any way affiliated with; I just happen to think he really knows his stuff). - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Mics
In a message dated 1/26/00 7:51:43 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /|\/|\ Right. It could also be caused by "brick walling" the mic input, where the signal coming into the mic input is so high that it is completely distorted. No adjustment of the recording level (automatically or manually) will fix this problem. /|\/|\ Ah, so this is what was happening when I recorded a concert a few months ago. It was my first attempt at recording in a very noisy venue, and the bass was overwhelming! So would I do to fix this problem on future recordings? I'm pretty much still new to the world of live MD recordings, so I really don't know what I could do to fix this problem... I would prefer to keep my binaural mics instead of buying different ones, if that's even possible... ~Zach http://start.at/cens - The Cutting Edge of Nothing Significant - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: bit-for-bit (cont'd)
Of course, this biggest reason, as has been mentioned, is that the ATRAC in the MD prevents the MD from playing back a bit-accurate copy of what was recorded. But I'm assuming that modern ATRAC algorithms are fairly good. I don't think one can make that assumption on a wholesale basis, for example, about a sound card that truncates a 20-bit signal to 16-bits. (The proper way to shorten word length is to apply dither *before* truncation.) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: mini disc advertising (was hating mp3)
I too think that Sony needs to actually do something about MD. I see
Phillips' CD-R ads ("Got to admit it's gettin' better -- gettin' better
all the time") on TV and elsewhere, but the only advertisements for MD
I've seen are in Marvel Comics! Nothing even in SOUND VISION magazine,
I don't think. TV and radio commercials would help a lot. In fact, now
may be Sony's one window of opportunity.
Hi there list,
belive it or not, Sony does actually advertise the Mini Disc over here in
Oz. I gota admit though that the ads are really strange and very obscure,
I'm not sure it's really what they need. No explanation of the general
capabilities, though it does make it clear that they have recording
capabilities I gotta admit. I have never seen print media advertisements
though, only in Japan where there are brochures in all the stores (cause
most big stores sell everythingKmart style I guess). It has just a big
a hiold over there as cd etc in terms of presence in stock displays.
Well, enough of my ramble, just a point of interest.
jeremy.
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MD: URL for md blanks
Hey Jason, Thanks for your email man. Yeah MD's are too expensive huh! I get Kodak blank CD-R's for $1.90 each at the local comp fair, but blank MD's are $4.50. $1.90 is a great price. Why do you think it is that everywhere else in the world people are paying hepas for CD-rs? And consequently very little md blanks? You wouldn't know the URL's for any good blank MD suppliers in Japan would you ? There is a link on the md community page (sorry don't have the address handy but could find it quickly if you need it) for an actual shop front store in Japan (foget which city) that sends out mini discs and acc., I guess they have good prices. I'm sure there are others, I have a friend that gets em from somewhere else, but it's best to buy them in boxes of at least twenty to thirty, so be prepared. So I can't be more specific :( Those prices I quoted come form a place I know in Hiroshima that is over the road from the baseball stadium (hint: anyone going to hiroshima should check this part of town out, heaps of good music stores). Anyway, this is not a music store, but a shop that sells lots of stuff cheap. They have had (both times I've been there) a few bins of varying quality discs ranging from $2 AUS to about $6 AUS for the REALLY good md's that usually cost about $15-20 over here. ie professional quality studio etc. Sorry everyone else for the ramble, but thought it might be of interest to anyone planning to be in Japan, just a thought. jeremy. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: labels
=== The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === Hopefully this will be a simple question for someone to answer out = there. I personally use freehand to make my labels with, yeah i know = it's overkill but i own the software and it works out wonderfully. = anyway i have only made the labels for the cases so far and want to = start making labels for the md's themselves, the question i have is i = often record mixes then a month or two down the line erase the md and = record another mix over it, i was wondering if anyone has found a way to = get the labels off the md, i dont wanna have 5 labels on top of each = other or wreck a md by using a razor blade or something like that on it. = If anyone has any neat tricks they wanna share with the rest of us = please do so it would be appreciated very much. Later Matt === MIME part removed : text/html; === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Linux S/PDIF soundcard
Bert, OK, now I see what you mean. Thank you for clarifying that for me and for reinforcing my thoughts that it has no effect for a minidisc copy. I now understand your concerns. -- Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bert Konstantin Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 6:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: Linux S/PDIF soundcard What the heck does "bit by bit copy" mean? Check de.comp.audio for details. With MD bit to bit copy is not possible, when you are recording, since MD compresses music, but if you use your MD-recorder as A/D-converter, it could be important. Let's assume the following: You have a song on a DAT-Tape (DAT does not compress) and you copy the song to the PC as a wave-file, copy it back to DAT and then back to the PC as a wave-file again, but with another name. If you compare both wave-files the files should be identical bit-by-bit. With most cheap-soundcards this is not possible. The reason for the problem is that 44.1kHz signals have to be converted to 48kHz and back to 44.1kHz with "normal" soundcards, because soundcards works with 48kHz internally. (I hope this is exact enough, what I wrote) The question is, if you hear the difference. Bert - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Mics
Jason, I have recorded loud indoor and outdoor concerts with the SP AT853 mikes (I was right in front of a speaker tower at an outdoor concert) and only had problems with clipping when I set the record volume too high on my Sharp 702 the first time I recorded with it (outside). Once I learned to leave some headroom for very high levels, I have not had any clipping since. I use the SP premium battery box plugged into the line input of my 702. I have been very happy with the quality of the mikes. -- Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lynch, Jason JD Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 6:08 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: MD: Mics Yowdy, The other night i recorded my first live gig on my MD. The sound guy wouldn't let me plug into the desk, even though the band requested it. Luckily i took along my mic. It was given to me as a gift by minidiscweb, due to the fact that i' requested a blue unit but they only had white. The mic ain't that great; it's a Aiwa Stereo condenser microphone CM-TS22 (marked as a business/live recording microphone). Anyway the recording is pretty good but quite distorted. It was a pretty loud PA, in a smallish bar. It doesn't sound to me like digital distortion (i had my R91 on auto rec. level setting), so i'm guessing it would be the mic that was clipping. On playback however, the signal sits pretty well on full (i'm guessing the wave form has pretty straight edges due to the clipping?). I was going to buy a Soundprofessional AT 853 mic soon. I've heard this is a great sounding mic, but would this also be the solution to the clipping problem? Also, is this one of the best for recording loud indoor (and outdoor) gigs? Cheers, Jason - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Mics
Beware of trying to estimate what the volume will be like at a live event by using your stereo. I tried that when I got my Sound Professionals AT853 mikes, and it was not even close to the volume at the concert. Even though it hurt my ears in my office where I tried it, it didn't come within 20db of being as loud as the concert. And at the concert, it did not hurt my ears. -- Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. Coon Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 8:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: Mics When you record loud gigs, you should put the Sony in manual record level instead of auto level. When you see the signal level at the top, it will clip no matter what mike you are using. Put it in manual and set it lower, it probably isn't the mike that is doing the clipping, but the recorder. Try it at home and record your stereo with it at or near full volume. Quick, like a bunny, record some in auto and then switch to manual and drop the recording level. by now, your neighbors have probably called the cops, so turn the stereo back down and listen to the results. I think you will find it is the level setting that is doing it. "Lynch, Jason JD" wrote: - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Recording lectures????? Neec cheap mono microphone...
Hya All, You may remember me from such posts as. Anyway... ;) I'm going to Staffordshire university (in England) next year (which means I'm gonna have to give up IRC :~(), I was woundering if anyone could recommend a microphone for recording speech, remembering how far away you can be from the speaker. Qulity isn't really that important, as I plan to MD them (in Mono) and then MP3 them. I don't want to spend an arm and a leg, so under £20 (yeah cheap scate I know, but I'm gonna be a student). Sensitive mono microphone plugged into Sharp 722. If anyone is woundering I'm going off to do a MEng in Computer Science. So If anyone is there, please email me I'd love to find out about the place, I'm coming to visit on 2nd of Feb. Have a good one, Peter. - Saying this email address may stop working, I'm moving my domain... so to md-l for archive as well please ;). -- "We do not ask for money, only knowledge." -- Me. Peter Wood ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Visit my Sharp 7XX homepage (http://www.wood-soft.co.uk) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
