Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
Gee. Thanks for pointing that out. I thread was about chain crimp tools. I said that I have a few tools in my tool box that I rarely use including the base setting tool for hydraulic lifters. No need to point out to me where it's used or that it's not used on Diesels. Someone asked what the tool was for because they didn't know, so I told them where it's used and on what models it's used for. OK? Marshall knows about this tool. He also knows that I would also know this. It's his attempt at being funny. I'm laughing over here SEE? hehehehehehehe
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
BenzBarn, You are a pretty new face around here, I think. And you are obviously very experienced in working on the Benz. ... But what you do NOT yet know is that one does not try to kick Obi in the nuts and walk away unscathed. Don On 8/21/05, BenzBarn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gee. Thanks for pointing that out. I thread was about chain crimp tools. I said that I have a few tools in my tool box that I rarely use including the base setting tool for hydraulic lifters. No need to point out to me where it's used or that it's not used on Diesels. Someone asked what the tool was for because they didn't know, so I told them where it's used and on what models it's used for. OK? Marshall knows about this tool. He also knows that I would also know this. It's his attempt at being funny. I'm laughing over here SEE? hehehehehehehe ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] which to buy?
yes, true. Like I said though, I only drive mine for hauling things. Kaleb Rory wrote: 20mpg is not bad for #7500 dually that is putting out 300 horses to the rear wheels, but it cast close to $100 now to fill it up. So I think I would be better off with a 35-40mpg 190D plus if I do go biodiesel it's a lot less processing and collecting. But I do miss driving my big truck, it just sits in the backyard. Rory On 8/21/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your dodge only gets 20mpg? That sounds pretty damn good for me. My 1 ton only gets about 12-14 but I only use it for hauling things. Rory wrote: So Don, does that mean you and I are going to scraping it out on Ebay and Criagslist for a 190D. I'm also in the market for a high MPG car to replace my 97' Dodge Diesel which sits parked since it only get 20mpg and fuel is over $3 right now. My biggie is that I need A/C since I live in the desert. Good luck and let the games begin. Rory On 8/21/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's work through this - You have two drivers who need transportation every day. You don't have aceptable public transportation. Therefore, you HAVE to have two running cars every day. You can't buy two new cars and trade them in every other year. I recommend three well maintained cars. Your odds of having two running cars at any giving time are greatly increased! Now - which models? For fuel economy the 190D (201) seems king, follwoed by the 300D 2.5 (124). For space - a 126 or even 123. The long 126 (my SDL) has LOTS of room. However, I'm almost aways the only one in the car, so it's wasted space, and costing me $ to carry all that air around. I haven't measured or compared the specs, but I don't think the SD has much more room than your 240D. I could be way off on that - I like the look and feel of the 126 more than the 123, but that's my personal feeling. My recommendation is to get a 190D for the economy, a SD or SDL for room and comfort, and keep the 240D for the spare car. I'm looking for a nice, light colored 190D myself to back-up the 300SDL. I don't think I'll be putting that many miles on the 450SLC, at 15 mpg, but might surprise myself since it's so much fun to drive. Of course, I'm also hoping to get a Kaleb type deal on a '87 300D - best performance of all the afordable diesels, and reputed to be an excellent driver. Might be able to replace the SLC! Long winded, rambling anwser to a question that asked for it -- On 8/21/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Debbie is starting to get the diesel bug. She hasn't committed as such to driving one but no longer objects when I mention maybe replacing her Buick with a Benz when the time comes for something new in the garage. My initial thought was to go for a late 190D because of the fuel economy. However, she has grown accustomed to the interior space and the trunk size of a Buick Regal. That might suggest a diesel S-Class (a Chris / Luther / OK Don sort of car) would be more appropriate (and more expensive) as the primary family car. This isn't something we're going to be shopping for immediately. I am looking toward spring or even fall of 2006 at the soonest. I am hoping to save up for it and have the cash in hand (which might rule out the S Class immediately) rather than having to take mess with a loan. Thoughts about which would be better? I understand this is a very controversial question and there is really no correct answer. Once again, please bear in mind that this will become our primary family vehicle, in snow country, and must be reasonably reliable. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
BenzBarn wrote: I'm laughing over here SEE? My offer still stands - how much for postage? -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] it started out as a routine servicing on my SDL
No, that one was on my 81 wagon. It lasted about 20K when I pulled the entire engine/tranny to drop another engine/tranny in it. No telling how long it would have gone. Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: But it sure didnt end that way. Did the oil change yesterday, put in delvac 1300(yea yea, not mobile one so my lifters will probably start tapping again). Today was the tranny filter change. I have been having a pretty decent leak from the b2 piston cover for a while so after I changed the fluid and put the pan back on, I pushed in the cover and reseated it thinking maybe that would seal it back up. Didnt have another o-ring so just wanted to do that real quick and see. Boy did that turn out to be a disaster. Filled tranny back up, went for a test drive. It was on the way back as i was pulling into the driveway I noticed a stream of something that have followed me out of the drive. Fluid was just blowing right out of the thing now. Crap. Ok, so I popped the clip off the b2 piston, popped the cover off, pulled the piston out, then pulled out the o-ring, it was split in half. Crap, dont have another one. Well I just pulled the b2 piston ect out of another tranny I had in the garage and used its seal on the SDL. That sucker is a bitch to get back in the little groove it fits in. Got it all put back together, fulled tranny back up, no more leaks. Shifts great now too. In the mean time, I must have had my head off the end of the creaper under the car laying in a big pool of tranny fluid. By the time I got done it looked like I had taken a bath in tranny fluid. I didnt think I was ever going to get that crap out of my hair. I tried hand cleaner, then dish soap, followed by shampoo. I think its all out now. What a day. Is that the B-2 piston you replaced without replacing the plastic bushing/guide? I quote the late Randy Durrance: After replacing the B-2 piston on my wife's 300TDT twice, I can answer the question about the required bushing. I didn't replace it the first time. Being a Mercedes Tech for 20 years or so, I had replaced the bushings on customer cars...but this was mine and I was in a hurry. If you have a B-2 piston that has failed (i.e., blown to tiny bits) there will usually be some galling (wear marks) on the nose of the piston. I failed to notice these marks on the first one. Since the piston has no return spring, it relies on pressure to push it back and forth. As the transmission housing wears, the piston can (and does) rock slightly in the bore. If the piston gets stuck when the B-2 band tries to release, pressure builds behind the piston until it moves. When the sticking piston is forced outward, it smacks into the B-2 piston cover and shatters. To get to the point...the substitution of the plastic guide bushing as well as the modified B-2 piston outer seal are meant to keep the piston from sticking in the applied position. Randy D. Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
Benzbarn is not a new face, Dan has been around for quite a while. LT Don wrote: BenzBarn, You are a pretty new face around here, I think. And you are obviously very experienced in working on the Benz. ... But what you do NOT yet know is that one does not try to kick Obi in the nuts and walk away unscathed. Don On 8/21/05, BenzBarn [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gee. Thanks for pointing that out. I thread was about chain crimp tools. I said that I have a few tools in my tool box that I rarely use including the base setting tool for hydraulic lifters. No need to point out to me where it's used or that it's not used on Diesels. Someone asked what the tool was for because they didn't know, so I told them where it's used and on what models it's used for. OK? Marshall knows about this tool. He also knows that I would also know this. It's his attempt at being funny. I'm laughing over here SEE? hehehehehehehe ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Benzbarn is not a new face, Dan has been around for quite a while. I'm thinking that Looie Don came along after I did (been here since March or April of '02) and Benzbarn may have been here longer than I.
Re: [MBZ] Vertical/Inclined Injection
Nope, Marshall, mine just shows 30Nm, no range. 40 Nm sounds like a pretty good compromise to me as well. Thx again. joe On 8/21/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Knight wrote: Thx, Marshall. My TDM is a Dec, '89 issue for 124,126 201 129. Which value would you suggest we go with or do you think the difference is enough to matter? Sujit sounds like he's hot to trot to get the injectors back into his new head with inclined injection. Well since all of the listings I've seen show a 10Nm range for injector torque and mine show 40-50Nm and yours shows 30Nm (or is it 30-40) I'd probably settle on 40Nm. Marshall --- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
I am getting a bit old and senile. I will pop on over for supper with Truman and check in when I get back. On 8/21/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Benzbarn is not a new face, Dan has been around for quite a while. I'm thinking that Looie Don came along after I did (been here since March or April of '02) and Benzbarn may have been here longer than I. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
[MBZ] cheap wagon, needs b2 piston
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Mercedes-300TD-turbo-diesel-wagon-no-reserve_W0QQitemZ4568357538QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] people are on crack
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1974-Mercedes-240D-Perfect_W0QQitemZ4568933949QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] Chain crimp tool and books
Wife is doing/arranging her books by color and size right now. Wilton
[MBZ] SL 600, poor throttle response
Treated myself to a V12 when I got back from Iraq. You can blame me for the skyrocketing gas prices!! Now, I hardly ever drive this car, but when I do, it seems to be running on six cylinders, and the throttle response is slow at that. Any ideas? No, I do not want to diesel engine swap. I never want to hear a diesel engine up front again. R. Long SL600, 560SL, 560SEL
Re: [MBZ] people are on crack
Some folks have way too much money. On 8/21/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1974-Mercedes-240D-Perfect_W0QQitemZ4568933949QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] RSS Feeds/ was which to buy?
No Doubt. I use SharpReader. It was easy to set up and use. I look for MB's within 500 miles or so of Chi-town... Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD - Original Message - From: Rory To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] which to buy? BTW I have setup RSS feeds for Craigslist saves a lot of typing and searching, it's setup to look for diesels. Not just MBZ, looking for a donor diesel for my 88 Montero.
Re: [MBZ] WIS
Pardon my ignorance but what is WIS? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Constantine N. Polites Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 8:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] WIS Several comments were made regarding the WIS. Does a listmember have this available for sale? If so please contact me offlist. Constantine ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Bill Clinton
Every morning this time of year I check my putter fro hurricanes and shit wouldn´t ya know it Hurricane Hilary is building off the coast. On 8/21/05, Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Missing Bill Clinton It doesn't matter what party you belong to - this is absolutely hilarious. Just watched a show on Canadian TV. There was a black comedian who said he misses Bill Clinton. Yep, that's right - I miss Bill Clinton! He was the closest thing we ever got to having a black man as President. Number 1- He played the sax. Number 2- He smoked weed. Number 3-He had his way with ugly white women. Even now? Look at him... his wife works, and he don't! And, he gets a check from the government every month. Manufacturers announced today that they will be stocking America's shelves this week with Clinton Soup, in honor of one of the nations' most distinguished men. It consists primarily of a weenie in hot water. Chrysler Corporation is adding a new car to its line to honor Bill Clinton. The Dodge Drafter will be built in Canada. When asked what he thought about foreign affairs, Clinton replied, I don't know, I never had one. American Indians nicknamed Bill Clinton Walking Eagle because he is so full of crap he can't fly. Clinton lacked only three things to become one of America's finest leaders: integrity, vision, wisdom. Clinton was doing the work of three men: Larry, Curly and Moe. The Clinton revised judicial oath: I solemnly swear to tell the truthas I know it, the whole truth as I believe it to be, and nothing but what I think you need to know. Clinton will be recorded in history as the only President to do Hanky Panky between Bushes. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Don Teresa Merriman Market Place Mexico Vacation Rentals Property Administration www.marketplacemexico.com http://www.marketplacemexico.com
[MBZ] WIS
Tom, I just learned about it after making a search: Workshop Information System. Constantine
Re: [MBZ] SL 600, poor throttle response
Let's see ... 600, 560, 560 ... should we call you Colonel or General of Kleb? On 8/21/05, Thomas Ralston Long IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Treated myself to a V12 when I got back from Iraq. You can blame me for the skyrocketing gas prices!! Now, I hardly ever drive this car, but when I do, it seems to be running on six cylinders, and the throttle response is slow at that. Any ideas? No, I do not want to diesel engine swap. I never want to hear a diesel engine up front again. R. Long SL600, 560SL, 560SEL ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD
the german companies are getting away from manufacturing stuff in germany in a big way. There is a behr fan clutch on our website that sells for less than one of our suppliers sells it for wholesale. at times such as these, i like to go and make fun of someone at the wholesaler in question. in this case, the company is small enough that i could IM the CEO asking him if he'd like to get some from me. This puzzled and upset the CEO as it pretty bad for him when his competitors can sell stuff to me cheaper than he can buy it for, so he dropped everything and went to visit the purchasing department. Turns out the one he was selling was german and the one sold on the buyMBparts website was identical but chinese. The chinese part sells for 2/3 the price of the german one and is reputed to be every bit as good. when the chinese can make it better for 1/3 the price, why would anyone still make anything in western europe? At 10:38 PM 8/20/2005, you wrote: Marshall wrote: The nozzles (NOT the injectors) cost almost $30 EACH now I'm not asking for Giveaways, I'll pay $35 EACH for NOS Bosch or MB German nozzles. Marshall wrote: Not clear that you can get ANYTHING that is made in Germany any more. Bosch has a part number and all you can do is order the part with THAT part number. There is NO reason why the part can't be made anywhere in the world to the same standards. Apparently Bosch moved all or most of their production to India, and they either rushed production or never could finish the needle and seat faces properly. Have even heard the tiny holes are not dilled all the way or not even there. Needless to say poor or nonexistent spray patterns from new Bosch Nozzles or Rebuilds! Maybe all this is a load of BS, who knows? But I don't want to find out the hard way! If you know a Injector professional would you ask what he knows about the Quality of the new nozzles? It might clear things up. There I went and did it and won't get a single nozzle! Russ H ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] WIS
Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Constantine N. Polites Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 8:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] WIS Tom, I just learned about it after making a search: Workshop Information System. Constantine ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] OT: how to put books on the shelf
Don, I've been dueling with myself over a reply But here goes... Why not put the cookbooks in the kitchen? In keeping w/the logic that places The Joy of Sex on the nightstand.. There, I did itSmile... and ENJOY This suggestion should not be construed to mean that you need a copy of The Joy of Driving in your car while you are exercising your Benz w/an Italian Tune Up or checking what her quarter mile times are. Just enjoy.:) Take care, Chuck, Phoenix, AZ 1980 300SD On Aug 21, 2005, at 2:53 PM, LT Don wrote: I do mine by topic and political persuasion. For example, top shelf is cookbooks. Traditional cookbooks such as The Joy Of Cooking are on the right side. The more liberal cookbooks such as Laurel's Kitchen and The New Vegetarian are of course on the left. I have a copy of Eat The Rich on the shelves somewhere but apparently it was mis-filed and can't be located right now. Same with the third shelf from the top, philosophy and religion. All of my Bob Jones University approved books are on the right. [I am thinking of adding one wall-mounted shelf further right of the bookcase so these can be far right and not have to associate with any other books.] Walden Pond, Karl Marx Selected Writing (it was a college class at George Mason University) and The Life of Mahatma Gandhi positioned toward the left. On 8/21/05, Jan Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did mine by color ..?? Does that count? grin Jan -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] people are on crack
looks nice. but for $6500??? On 8/21/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some folks have way too much money. On 8/21/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1974-Mercedes-240D-Perfect_W0QQitemZ4568933949QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1984 MB 300D Turbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
[MBZ] OT......!!!!Bill Clinton
Hey guys, What about Kaleb's new rules about USING OT in the subject line.?? C'mon now behave and play nice..! or he might use some of those 'BANNED words Take care and enjoy life... Chuck Phoenix, AZ 1980 300SD On Aug 21, 2005, at 3:26 PM, LT Don wrote: Yes, I do miss Bill Clinton but for none of the reasons you specified. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: how to put books on the shelf
Actually, the three bookcases are in the computer room, which is within 10 feet of the kitchen. Lighten up, Chuck. On 8/21/05, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, I've been dueling with myself over a reply But here goes... Why not put the cookbooks in the kitchen? In keeping w/the logic that places The Joy of Sex on the nightstand.. There, I did it Smile... and ENJOY This suggestion should not be construed to mean that you need a copy of The Joy of Driving in your car while you are exercising your Benz w/an Italian Tune Up or checking what her quarter mile times are. Just enjoy.:) Take care, Chuck, Phoenix, AZ 1980 300SD On Aug 21, 2005, at 2:53 PM, LT Don wrote: I do mine by topic and political persuasion. For example, top shelf is cookbooks. Traditional cookbooks such as The Joy Of Cooking are on the right side. The more liberal cookbooks such as Laurel's Kitchen and The New Vegetarian are of course on the left. I have a copy of Eat The Rich on the shelves somewhere but apparently it was mis-filed and can't be located right now. Same with the third shelf from the top, philosophy and religion. All of my Bob Jones University approved books are on the right. [I am thinking of adding one wall-mounted shelf further right of the bookcase so these can be far right and not have to associate with any other books.] Walden Pond, Karl Marx Selected Writing (it was a college class at George Mason University) and The Life of Mahatma Gandhi positioned toward the left. On 8/21/05, Jan Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did mine by color ..?? Does that count? grin Jan -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] OT: how to put books on the shelf
Don, Didn't mean this to be a heavy topic. Smile and enjoy. Chuck On Aug 21, 2005, at 7:26 PM, LT Don wrote: Actually, the three bookcases are in the computer room, which is within 10 feet of the kitchen. Lighten up, Chuck.
Re: [MBZ] OT: how to put books on the shelf
Three??? I have ten, and am looking for space for the next two. On 8/21/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the three bookcases are in the computer room, which is within 10 feet of the kitchen. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] OT: how to put books on the shelf
You are lucky that I just accidently hit a cntl/D and somehow blew away the email I had typed to you. It was very long! The initials MBCA were in there somewhere but I forget the exact context. But it is gone forever and I can't recreate it. Fortunately my rapidly decreasing brain cells suffer from short term memory loss (selective). Ok, now let's all play nice and have fun. If not I will ask Kleb to subscribe you to Banned. See signature line -- I work in that field and trust me, it is very very true. :-) Don On 8/21/05, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, Didn't mean this to be a heavy topic. Smile and enjoy. Chuck On Aug 21, 2005, at 7:26 PM, LT Don wrote: Actually, the three bookcases are in the computer room, which is within 10 feet of the kitchen. Lighten up, Chuck. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
I'm not new round here. I've been on the lists for over 5 years. Obi and I have been here before and he knows I'm not a toe sucker.
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
John? How much will you give me for this tool? It's not going to be free because I paid about 300 bucks for it.
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
BenzBarn wrote: John? How much will you give me for this tool? It's not going to be free because I paid about 300 bucks for it. You said the tools were unneeded, so I offered to pay shipping to take them off your hands, remember? Can't have a toolbox cluttered up with unnecessary tools and all... ;-P -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
Toe sucker? On 8/21/05, BenzBarn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not new round here. I've been on the lists for over 5 years. Obi and I have been here before and he knows I'm not a toe sucker. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
Hehehe I'm actually a pretty nice guy in real life and more than generous. Just not that generous. I have some old drill bits you can have though..
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
Toe sucker? ( must be a Canadian thing ) You know, Ass kisser? Minion? Lap dog? Ankle grabber? Butt boy? Wimp? Puffta ? Knob? Take you're pick. but it ain't me. I was once nice enough to say I was sorry to him on list to which I got no acknowledgment in return either on site or off. Yeah, you could say there's some history here. Let's just say we ignore each other and leave it at that.OK? His research is good because he knows computers and seems to have all the time in the world to find things for the undeserving, lazy types that seem hang out around here but I occasionally see things that aren't right. I'm not up to getting into arguments or being stomped on by every ( see the above list ) dude that just has to defend him so hey, WTF. I'm cool.
Re: [MBZ] people are on crack
Reserve met at $6500 Wonder if I polish up Gump I can snag some idiots too? On Sunday, August 21, 2005, at 05:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1974-Mercedes- 240D-Perfect_W0QQitemZ4568933949QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] Bill Clinton
That one will not blow Bill knows that Going to REALLY SUCK, so hit the storm cellar, bolt everything down, and hold onto your @$$ On Sunday, August 21, 2005, at 06:44 PM, Don Teresa Merriman wrote: Every morning this time of year I check my putter fro hurricanes and shit wouldn´t ya know it Hurricane Hilary is building off the coast. On 8/21/05, Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Missing Bill Clinton It doesn't matter what party you belong to - this is absolutely hilarious. Just watched a show on Canadian TV. There was a black comedian who said he misses Bill Clinton. Yep, that's right - I miss Bill Clinton! He was the closest thing we ever got to having a black man as President. Number 1- He played the sax. Number 2- He smoked weed. Number 3-He had his way with ugly white women. Even now? Look at him... his wife works, and he don't! And, he gets a check from the government every month. Manufacturers announced today that they will be stocking America's shelves this week with Clinton Soup, in honor of one of the nations' most distinguished men. It consists primarily of a weenie in hot water. Chrysler Corporation is adding a new car to its line to honor Bill Clinton. The Dodge Drafter will be built in Canada. When asked what he thought about foreign affairs, Clinton replied, I don't know, I never had one. American Indians nicknamed Bill Clinton Walking Eagle because he is so full of crap he can't fly. Clinton lacked only three things to become one of America's finest leaders: integrity, vision, wisdom. Clinton was doing the work of three men: Larry, Curly and Moe. The Clinton revised judicial oath: I solemnly swear to tell the truthas I know it, the whole truth as I believe it to be, and nothing but what I think you need to know. Clinton will be recorded in history as the only President to do Hanky Panky between Bushes. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Don Teresa Merriman Market Place Mexico Vacation Rentals Property Administration www.marketplacemexico.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
[MBZ] special tools
http://makeashorterlink.com/?M60F247AB a collection of special tools that you may or may not need not mine -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] Oil/Diesel Mixtures
Disagree Doctor. From the MS State U Extension site: http://msucares.com/pubs/infosheets/is1621.html 1. FYI: Consider Used Oil as Equipment Fuel: Waste engine oil and hydraulic oil also can be filtered (5 micron filter or smaller) and burned in a diesel solution in tractors and in other equipment. A good starting point is 90 percent diesel and 10 percent oil, although up to 100 percent oil use is possible with good filtration and preheating. Be sure to check with the engine manufacturer before burning waste oil in engines under warranty. With vegetable oil prices low (20 cents or less per pound) and diesel prices high, soybean or cotton seed oil blends with diesel fuel may be economical. 2. But mainly that, from the same site, motor oil is 150,000 BTU/gallon. D2 is 140,000 BTU/gal (another site puts it as low as 128,000 BTU/gal)...lets plit the difference: 134,000 BTU/gal. motor oil has 12% more energy. My coworkers 240D gets 33mpg hwy (65mph)...33 * 1.12 = 37 mpg. Agreed, not 41, but closer to 41 than low 30's. Christopher --- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred De Vries wrote: I'd feel like I had stepped into the Twilite Zone regarding cars that ran on peanut oil, Vegetable oil, McD's waste etc. If an older fella hadn't stopped by my house last week driving the same brown 240D that was sitting in my yard. He told me he had 330,000 miles on it. I think it was early 80's? He said he owned a construction company and they used the car for a parts runner. Anytime they changed the oil in anything from a bulldozer to a lawn mower they poured the oil in the tank of his MB. Said he gets 41 MPG with his manual and just changes the filters a lot, hasn't had any mechanical problems to speak of, but the Michigan Rust Monster is eating the car away from the outside in. Speaking of 240D's...(Nice Segue,eh?) Mine has the key actually stuck in the ignition, won't turn, won't come out. HELP? The older man is NOT telling the truth about the mileage. At anything other than a steady 40-45 mph, about the best you will get from a 240D is in the low 30s - especially with less than optimal fuel. As to the key, if it won't come out and you want it out, you'll need to drill it out and then replace thje entire locking mechanism AND tumbler! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! I AM A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT, I THINK. -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [MBZ] while we are putting crap into our fuel tanks ...
Right, there are too many variables right now. What I have done is filled the rest of the tank (1/2 empty) with #2. I'm gonna run a few tanks with GE 8932Q (high quality diesel additive) to clear it out and start with a clean plate. What I was wondering up front was whether I was going to get billowing clouds of smoke, which I did NOT (to my great surprise). Then I am going to get 2,000 liters of a-l sauce, which is the by product I can get for 28 cents/gallon and consists of unused ATF, motor (dino and synthetic) and gear lube and a very little VO (all unused). I am going to have it tested for sulphur content first. No more bacon grease, etc. With this mix, it seems that two things can go wrong and are distinguishable - ashing up the engine (particularly the valve seats) and wearing the engine by sulfuric acid. Actually, if the oil analysis comes back too high for sulphur, then it's a forgone conclusion what will happen, so I will use the 2,000 liters for my shop oil burner. We'll see. Christopher --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: I don't think YOU should do it. But I do think I should do it. You have a nice 240D, I have a **PROFESSIONAL** TEST VEHICLE (rust bucket). WHEN IT RUINS MY IP, ASHES UP MY VALVE SEATS, ETC, then we will all know the real answer. If the car survives, we'll have an answer. If it ends in mechanical tragedy, we can spend the next year debating which fuel additive did it in. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! I AM A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT, I THINK. -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [MBZ] while we are putting crap into our fuel tanks ...
Christopher McCann wrote: With this mix, it seems that two things can go wrong and are distinguishable - ashing up the engine (particularly the valve seats) and wearing the engine by sulfuric acid. Actually, if the oil analysis comes back too high for sulphur, then it's a forgone conclusion what will happen, so I will use the 2,000 liters for my shop oil burner. We'll see. The sulfur might be OK if there's no H2O present. Toilet paper filters on the engine oil, maybe?
Re: [MBZ] AZ Craigslist MB
Passed emissions Feb '05. ?? Don't all diesels pass emissions (smoke, too)? ;) Semi-OT: Hey Chuck - the annual GWS-MBCA Club picnic yesterday was great fun! Tom Sheppard received his 40 year pin. I came in fourth in street class!! No trophy this year :(( Tom Meyer showed up! Lots of German beer, many varieties. The brats were OK, though one silly woman p*ssed off head brat chef Klaus Hirtes by asking for a hot dog! On 8/20/05, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Slim Pickins.. No, not that guy 1983 Mercedes 300D - $1000 (Peoria, AZ) take care, Chuck Phoenix, AZ ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] brake warning light
It WAS the switch reset. I now remember having to reset that once before but it had totally slipped my mind. A quick push in of the switch (why do they make that so thin and needle-like?) Reset switch? Don, your car is WAY too high tech. On 8/20/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they offer me a contract valued in the millions, all of use here get a 320CDI. On 8/20/05, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:53:48 -0500 LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * = My eyesight is improving for some reason. Left contact went from -1.25 to -.50 right contact went from -.75 to -.25. I can now see literally to the horizon without any blurring. Perhaps frequent exposure to #2 diesel and Mobil 1 fumes improves visual acuity. My eyes were getting progressively worse when I was driving an Acura. I had my last eye exam about the same time that I got my 240D. I can see the manufacturers lining up with sign-up bonuses: Drive an old MB Diesel and use Mobil 1 and get better vision!!! We'll soon see Don's likeness all over hawking their wares ... Craig ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD
JabbaHursty wrote: the German companies are getting away from manufacturing stuff in germany in a big way. There is a behr fan clutch on our website that sells for less than one of our suppliers sells it for wholesale. at times such as these, i like to go and make fun of someone at the wholesaler in question. in this case, the company is small enough that i could IM the CEO asking him if he'd like to get some from me. This puzzled and upset the CEO as it pretty bad for him when his competitors can sell stuff to me cheaper than he can buy it for, so he dropped everything and went to visit the purchasing department. Turns out the one he was selling was german and the one sold on the buyMBparts website was identical but chinese. The chinese part sells for 2/3 the price of the german one and is reputed to be every bit as good. when the chinese can make it better for 1/3 the price, why would anyone still make anything in western europe? Hey, thanks for the reply I'm just looking for parts that work correctly, I don't really care about where they are made, just that they work. I've heard there are Quality issues with the new Bosch nozzles and Injector rebuilds. Where they are made is irrelevant to me. The only reason I specified German is that's when they supposedly still worked correctly. Like I said before this might be a load of BS, I don't know, but would like to find out. I AM IN NO WAY TRYING TO IMPUGN THE REPUTATION OF RUSTY OR YOU OR ANY OTHER PARTS RETAILER! My biggest fear is if Bosch is having Quality problems with the parts for my old car, they will just stop making the part instead of fixing the problem! If someone has any NOS Bosch or MB nozzles that were made in Germany, for a 617 turbo, and want to sell, I'll pay $35 each until I get a set of 5. Russ H
Re: [MBZ] people are on crack
Black on black GEORGIA car without a sunroof!! Antenna doesn't retract! Mileage is suspect. For $6,500 you could get a VERY NICE 300D, TD or CD turbodiesel sedan, wagon or coupe. On 8/22/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reserve met at $6500 Wonder if I polish up Gump I can snag some idiots too? On Sunday, August 21, 2005, at 05:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1974-Mercedes- 240D-Perfect_W0QQitemZ4568933949QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist diesels in Portland, OR
This is reserved for LT Don to help simplify his life... Has no extraneous switches or cryptic electronics. On 8/22/05, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/car/92492157.html '86 300D with NA 6 cyl diesel engine $5995 http://portland.craigslist.org/car/92500077.html '77 Int'l Scout II with 3.3L diesel (I believe it's a Nissan engine) $6500 http://portland.craigslist.org/car/92564553.html 1958 180B $2500 http://portland.craigslist.org/car/92555802.html 1980 W116 300SD $2K only 155K miles I bet that little 180D is slow, but would be neat to putt around town in. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie, the only diesel (at least for now) ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] '85 SD Trunk lock - how to get in?
I've been going over all the 'little' stuff on an '85 SD that I'm getting daily driver-worthy for a friend. I believe the trunk lock cylinder has failed, but maybe there's just some dumb detail I'm missing. When we first looked over the car, the trunk was unlocked opened w/ a push of the button. it's possible that it was locked afterwards with the key. A week or so later, the key will only go (at best) 1/2-way in and the button pushed but as if it is locked (ie, with no response). So, my questions are: 1. Is there an emergency release/unlock method for the trunk? 2. If not, what's the least destructive way to get into the trunk to unlock it from the inside? 3. Could this be tied to the central locking system (which, btw, does not appear to work at all) is there a way to activate/unlock the trunk this way (like, hitting the right vacuum line w/ the right suction or pressure) ? 4. What other models are the SD trunk lock cylinders interchangeable with? (240? 300D? at least all W126 cars I would guess...) thanks -chris
Re: [MBZ] Fuel for thought
It's REALLY expensive!! On 8/22/05, Don Teresa Merriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of oil, what is so special about Mobil One ? On 8/22/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On oil supply: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/08/21/BUG93EANVS1.DTL On oil pricing (federal reserve board): http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/feds/2005/200530/200530pap.pdf Big screen TV pricing: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/20/technology/20tvprices.html?ex=1124769600 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Don Teresa Merriman Market Place Mexico Vacation Rentals Property Administration www.marketplacemexico.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube
The cheaper the bacon, the greater the output of grease!! On 8/19/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT Don wrote: $1.59 on sale at Fareway in Iowa. Not the grease -- ya gotta actually cook and eat the stuff to get the grease. I call it my burden for the Chris Project. If I could get a gallon for $1.59 there MIGHT be an argument to be made, but I doubt that $1.59 would generate even a qt of grease Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube
At least YOU felt good about yourself. Well done! On 8/20/05, BenzBarn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I once had a bumper sticker that read: '' Nuke the gay, unborn, baby whales '' Not sure why it upset so many activists ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '85 SD Trunk lock - how to get in?
Try unlocking the car from the passenger side. Sometimes this works to release the vacuum lock in the trunk (I don't know why but it works on my '84 380SE). There is also an emergency release under the rear seat on the drivers side IIRC. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of carstuff Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 8:55 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] '85 SD Trunk lock - how to get in? I've been going over all the 'little' stuff on an '85 SD that I'm getting daily driver-worthy for a friend. I believe the trunk lock cylinder has failed, but maybe there's just some dumb detail I'm missing. When we first looked over the car, the trunk was unlocked opened w/ a push of the button. it's possible that it was locked afterwards with the key. A week or so later, the key will only go (at best) 1/2-way in and the button pushed but as if it is locked (ie, with no response). So, my questions are: 1. Is there an emergency release/unlock method for the trunk? 2. If not, what's the least destructive way to get into the trunk to unlock it from the inside? 3. Could this be tied to the central locking system (which, btw, does not appear to work at all) is there a way to activate/unlock the trunk this way (like, hitting the right vacuum line w/ the right suction or pressure) ? 4. What other models are the SD trunk lock cylinders interchangeable with? (240? 300D? at least all W126 cars I would guess...) thanks -chris ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] people are on crack
For $6500 you could get a VERY nice 300SDL or almost even a 140. andrew strasfogel wrote: Black on black GEORGIA car without a sunroof!! Antenna doesn't retract! Mileage is suspect. For $6,500 you could get a VERY NICE 300D, TD or CD turbodiesel sedan, wagon or coupe. On 8/22/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reserve met at $6500 Wonder if I polish up Gump I can snag some idiots too? On Sunday, August 21, 2005, at 05:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1974-Mercedes- 240D-Perfect_W0QQitemZ4568933949QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] while we are putting crap into our fuel tanks ...
Mitch, This brings me to another dumb question: where does the water come from? Fuel - could install a water seperator crankcase oil - if you have no cracks allowing coolant into engine, how does water get in the oil? toilet paper filter - now I thought THAT was a joke. How does it work? Is there a special water seperator filter for crankcase oil? After taking the a/c out of the car, I have lots of room for all sorts of separators. Thanks, Mitch Christopher --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: With this mix, it seems that two things can go wrong and are distinguishable - ashing up the engine (particularly the valve seats) and wearing the engine by sulfuric acid. Actually, if the oil analysis comes back too high for sulphur, then it's a forgone conclusion what will happen, so I will use the 2,000 liters for my shop oil burner. We'll see. The sulfur might be OK if there's no H2O present. Toilet paper filters on the engine oil, maybe? ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! I AM A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT, I THINK. -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[MBZ] SL 600, poor throttle response
R. Long, No clue on the gasser problem. A cube-mate just took his newish MB gasser to the mechanic for a set of tires, diagnosis and reset of check engine light, new O2 sensor: $1200 please. Enjoy your ride - no way I could afford those kinds of bills. Where in the South are you? Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR Digest Lurker since 2001 '85 300TD 322k miles (Euro 5spd) '96 Infiniti I30 150k miles (wife's 5spd) '73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification' Charleston SC
Re: [MBZ] while we are putting crap into our fuel tanks ...
Water gets into the fuel and engine oil from condensation. In addition, water gets into the engine oil from leaks between the cooling system and other engine systems. If you run the engine for a while good and hot, the water will boil off the engine oil. The ways to remove water from the fuel are: emulsifier, draining, or water separator. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 9:10 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] while we are putting crap into our fuel tanks ... Mitch, This brings me to another dumb question: where does the water come from?
Re: [MBZ] people are on crack
Anyone else? What year and model collectible/driveable Mercedes will $6500 buy these days? Preferably an appreciating classic... On 8/22/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For $6500 you could get a VERY nice 300SDL or almost even a 140. andrew strasfogel wrote: Black on black GEORGIA car without a sunroof!! Antenna doesn't retract! Mileage is suspect. For $6,500 you could get a VERY NICE 300D, TD or CD turbodiesel sedan, wagon or coupe. On 8/22/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reserve met at $6500 Wonder if I polish up Gump I can snag some idiots too? On Sunday, August 21, 2005, at 05:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1974-Mercedes- 240D-Perfect_W0QQitemZ4568933949QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Oil/Diesel Mixtures
Christopher McCann wrote: Russ, That's very interesting. I had no idea that this was done on such a large scale...or that some trucks had the capability built in (as the other poster mentioned). Cool. Did you notice getting better mileage with the blacker fuel? Adding engine oil to diesel fuel in a Mercedes REDUCES power and economy. This despite the greater energy content. The engine design is optimized for D1-D2, NOT for motor oil. Try it yourself. Add a couple of qt of conventional 10W-30 to your tank - the engine will have a bit less power and economy will slightly suffer (hard to measure because the economy reduction is small). The engine will run very SMOOTHLY but smoke a little more (that smoke is unburned fuel - and if you don't burn it, it's energy content remains unused). If you use Mobil 1 (or other group IV or V oils), the engine will not run as smoothly (I don't know why) smoke even more and the exhaust will smell funny. The so-called synthetics (made from group III oils) do not seem to ME to be as bad as Mobil-1, but still seem to burn less completely than group 1 and II engine oils. These problems seem less apparent with LARGE engines - not sure if it's a design thing or a size thing, but that's unimportant to me since I don't own a large diesel. The use of material that would otherwise be discarded as fuel (even fuel that's inferior or requires some increased engine maintenance) may seem appealing, but that's about to change. In the case of USED engine oil, the toxins emitted cause environmentalists and regulators to have conniptions and at least SOME of the data on the toxic and cancer causing effects of diesel exhaust seem to derive from the practice of burning used engine oil! The regulations coming on-line and proposed over the next few years will require that soot and other toxic substances be trapped in filters that must be replaced (and the used ones sent to toxic waste disposal sites - this will NOT be inexpensive). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] SL 600, poor throttle response
Been waiting to see if anyone had anything really constructive to offer. There's not a huge fund of expertise on late model high tech gassers on this list so far as I know. I think if you're planning to own maintain this formidible beast for any period of time you'd be well advised to find yourself a copy of the WIS - recently, if briefly discussed on this list - and put yourself through the grief of getting it installed becoming at least somewhat familiar with its nuances. You don't mention the model year, but the degradation of the wiring harness(es) that James alluded to could well be right on point. joe On 8/21/05, Thomas Ralston Long IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Treated myself to a V12 when I got back from Iraq. You can blame me for the skyrocketing gas prices!! Now, I hardly ever drive this car, but when I do, it seems to be running on six cylinders, and the throttle response is slow at that. Any ideas? No, I do not want to diesel engine swap. I never want to hear a diesel engine up front again.
Re: [MBZ] transferring from video to your computer
As a video production professional I can tell you that old video equipment is like a cheap Mercedes. I've suggested to Kaleb to get a copy of Pinnacle Studio with the MovieBox DV and a cheap firewire card. That way if he decides later that he wants a different piece of software his analog capture will still be covered without buying new hardware. BTW: If anybody wants I have a copy of Pinnacle Studio 9 (not 9 plus) that I'd let go for $20 plus shipping. -Curt Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 14:53:11 -0700 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] transferring from video to your computer To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 redghost wrote: If this is old tech camera and only has the red/yellow/white output, you may need to get a breakout box digitizer to hook to that will dump it into your USB or Firewire port. For some more $$, but probably way cheap on evilBay you can snag a card (matrox or some such) that will fit in the peecee and let you suck data in. I've seen video capture cards as cheap as $30, on surplus sites. More expensive ones come with better software. I tend to skip the card's software and use Virtual Dub, though. - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: [MBZ] 240d compression figures
Steve MacSween wrote: Can someone confirm for me, for an OM616: - what the factory compression specs would be - what the usual minimum compression (for the car to start) is (I seem to remember 270 or so) A new indirect injection Mercedes diesel (OM621, 61x, 60x) from the last 45-50 years will exhibit between 24-30 bar (350-435 psi) compression. After break in, compression MAY rise even higher. Mercedes sets a lower limit of 18 bar (260 psi) but in fact when compression drops below about 20-21 bar (290-305 psi) starting at ambient temperatures below freezing will be difficult or even impossible. For smooth idle and reasonable engine longevity compression between the best and worst cylinders should be within about 3 bar (45-50 psi). If compression gets and stays outside that range the engine WILL try to tear itself apart (and eventually succeed). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] Fuel for thought
Don Teresa Merriman wrote: Speaking of oil, what is so special about Mobil One ? It hasn't DOUBLED in price in the last two years! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube
99% of the lawyers give the rest a bad name. On 8/22/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least YOU felt good about yourself. Well done! On 8/20/05, BenzBarn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I once had a bumper sticker that read: '' Nuke the gay, unborn, baby whales '' Not sure why it upset so many activists ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Don Teresa Merriman Market Place Mexico Vacation Rentals Property Administration www.marketplacemexico.com http://www.marketplacemexico.com
Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD
I have Monarch Diesel made in Germany for $23.00 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RAH Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 2:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD Thanks for the replies, I'm just looking for the nozzles or tips. Already tested the injectors in the parts car with 288K on it and none of the 5 had a good spray pattern. The faces of the nozzles are burnt from the needle to where the heat shield protects, this is bad enough you can feel the dished out spot its burnt in the nozzle. I'm sure I could clean them up a get a better spray pattern, but how long is that going to last with so much of the nozzle burnt away? My car has 232K and I bet the nozzles aren't far behind. So what I'm Looking for is a set of NOS nozzles that say Made in Germany on them. Maybe someone bought a set 3-4 years ago or 10-15 would even be better and no longer needs them and wants to sell. I know Rusty sells them new, But I'm looking for NOS nozzles that say Made in Germany on them. Thanks Russ H
Re: [MBZ] while we are putting crap into our fuel tanks ...
Christopher McCann wrote: Mitch, This brings me to another dumb question: where does the water come from? In the crankcase, a little from condensation, and a little from combustion. HxCx + O2 - H2O + CO2 + heat. Toilet paper filtering: http://www.bypassfilter.com/faqs.htm (see FAQ #12) There are a lot of good diesel water separators on the market, but I don't know of anything other than the paper towel/toilet paper filters for drying crankcase oil.
Re: [MBZ] WIS
Here's some screen shots of the WIS, if you were wondering what it's like: http://vzone.virgin.net/titanium.34/kms/wis/wis.htm BTW, the 124 (and 126?) coverage is the same as on the CD-ROM's, but adds transmission repair information. The later models (210, 211, 203, etc) have more complete information since those were not originally created as paper mauals (AFAIK), like the old 124/126 stuff was. :-) -dm -- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 06:13:09 -0700 From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] WIS On 8/21/05, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pardon my ignorance but what is WIS? It's what the dealer techs resort to when they're in over their heads. I've lost track of the link, but you can buy time online from MB for viewing downloading purposes. There're I have no clue how many versions floating around available thru ebay and such, and I've likewise no clue as to what percentage of those available actually work. A pain to set up and not altogether intuitive to use, it has virtually nothing on 123 and earlier models, only limited coverage of 124 126. Full coverage begins for m/y '95. Some of what is covered in the cd manuals of the earlier models is identical to what can be found in the WIS. WIS is so far as I know the only real source of info on the later models for which there are no cd manuals. joe
Re: [MBZ] SL 600, poor throttle response
Don't mean to be the bearer of bad news but this sounds like someone's recent problem with a S500. Turned out it was the ICU. The retail on this ICU alone is $3,275 but that is for a V8 so expect to spend more for a V12! Of course, there are other less expensive possibilities which a treament of techron might cure or even a tune-up. You didn't mention how many miles are on the SL600. On 8/22/05, Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been waiting to see if anyone had anything really constructive to offer. There's not a huge fund of expertise on late model high tech gassers on this list so far as I know. I think if you're planning to own maintain this formidible beast for any period of time you'd be well advised to find yourself a copy of the WIS - recently, if briefly discussed on this list - and put yourself through the grief of getting it installed becoming at least somewhat familiar with its nuances. You don't mention the model year, but the degradation of the wiring harness(es) that James alluded to could well be right on point. joe On 8/21/05, Thomas Ralston Long IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Treated myself to a V12 when I got back from Iraq. You can blame me for the skyrocketing gas prices!! Now, I hardly ever drive this car, but when I do, it seems to be running on six cylinders, and the throttle response is slow at that. Any ideas? No, I do not want to diesel engine swap. I never want to hear a diesel engine up front again. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 1985 380SL
Re: [MBZ] WIS
As I looked down the example of WIS, I saw something interesting: evidently, AJC has been disabled on many of the MBs sold lately...(anti-jerk control). Har dee har har. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 138K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] WIS Here's some screen shots of the WIS, if you were wondering what it's like: http://vzone.virgin.net/titanium.34/kms/wis/wis.htm BTW, the 124 (and 126?) coverage is the same as on the CD-ROM's, but adds transmission repair information. The later models (210, 211, 203, etc) have more complete information since those were not originally created as paper mauals (AFAIK), like the old 124/126 stuff was. :-) -dm -- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 06:13:09 -0700 From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] WIS On 8/21/05, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pardon my ignorance but what is WIS? It's what the dealer techs resort to when they're in over their heads. I've lost track of the link, but you can buy time online from MB for viewing downloading purposes. There're I have no clue how many versions floating around available thru ebay and such, and I've likewise no clue as to what percentage of those available actually work. A pain to set up and not altogether intuitive to use, it has virtually nothing on 123 and earlier models, only limited coverage of 124 126. Full coverage begins for m/y '95. Some of what is covered in the cd manuals of the earlier models is identical to what can be found in the WIS. WIS is so far as I know the only real source of info on the later models for which there are no cd manuals. joe ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] SL 600, poor throttle response
Also buy yourself a scanner to pull and clear the codes if it's the early models they're ODB1 which means you have to clear the initial codes and repair the problems associated with the codes in a hierarchial way to get to the root cause. good luck James 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL - Original Message - From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] SL 600, poor throttle response Been waiting to see if anyone had anything really constructive to offer. There's not a huge fund of expertise on late model high tech gassers on this list so far as I know. I think if you're planning to own maintain this formidible beast for any period of time you'd be well advised to find yourself a copy of the WIS - recently, if briefly discussed on this list - and put yourself through the grief of getting it installed becoming at least somewhat familiar with its nuances. You don't mention the model year, but the degradation of the wiring harness(es) that James alluded to could well be right on point. joe On 8/21/05, Thomas Ralston Long IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Treated myself to a V12 when I got back from Iraq. You can blame me for the skyrocketing gas prices!! Now, I hardly ever drive this car, but when I do, it seems to be running on six cylinders, and the throttle response is slow at that. Any ideas? No, I do not want to diesel engine swap. I never want to hear a diesel engine up front again. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Bill Clinton
Come on . can we not *please* leave this on Banned?? Thank you ... Jan Don Teresa Merriman wrote: This morning she blowing out to sea, BIG SNIP
[MBZ] Fuel mixture screws (all the way in)
Hi all, I've been having trouble with my 72 250. It runs great in park but once I put it in gear it stalls as soon as the transmission kicks in. I have bypassed the emmission controls and set the timing to 8' BTDC wo/ vacuum. I adjusted the fuel mixture screws with a colourtune and a vacuum gauge. In BOTH situations the proper setting are the fuel mixture screws completely closed. I have been googling for information on that and some sites indicate it's a timing issue. Others indicate it's a vacuum leak issue. I have replaced the brake booster and the advance/dashpot hoses and blocked off the accessoris hose. The only hose I have not checked/ replaced is the vacuum modulater (where is that?). Thanks George
Re: [MBZ] Bill Clinton
what a disgusting bunch those banned guys are! just vile stuff At 12:33 PM 8/22/2005, you wrote: Come on . can we not *please* leave this on Banned?? Thank you ... Jan Don Teresa Merriman wrote: This morning she blowing out to sea, BIG SNIP ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Fuel mixture screws (all the way in)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only hose I have not checked/ replaced is the vacuum modulater (where is that?). Transmission, unless it goes to a switch box first, but I think in 72 it went straight to the modulator on the side of the tranny.
Re: [MBZ] Oil/Diesel Mixtures
Christopher wrote: That's very interesting. I had no idea that this was done on such a large scale...or that some trucks had the capability built in (as the other poster mentioned). Cool. Did you notice getting better mileage with the blacker fuel? Christopher, Sorry I cant help you much with fuel mileage between tanks of fuel. I would NOT drive for one of those company's that had a fuel mileage bonus figured into the pay per mile. The only way you could make the fuel mileage bonus was to shut your truck off anytime the wheels weren't turning!(Some drivers still couldn't make the MPG bonus and put fuel in their trucks out of their own pockets to get full pay per mile!) Even if it was -30 in Rawlins or 110 in Phoenix! The way I looked at it, that truck was my house for 3-6 weeks at a time and the hotshots in the office that thought they could save the Co. $$ didn't have the heat and ac shut off in their houses! So I rarely shut off my truck. One of the Co. I drove for would post a monthly avg for each tractor, but that's all I knew of or cared about my fuel mileage. Smart Company's that wanted better fuel mileage upgraded their equipment. Example Mech. Cummins 315HP and 350HP I was getting an avg.of 4-4.5 MPG. Computer controlled 60 Series Detroit's an avg. of 6-6.5 MPG that includes the last one that was 500HP. I don't think the used oil hurt Big Truck fuel pumps or injectors, with the mandated low sulfur it may even have helped. I say that because when we had the Cummins and the first 1-2 years with the Detroit's they didn't care what kind of anti-gel we used. Just get what ever they have at the truckstop. Then Detroit started refusing to honor the warrantee on injectors they said were damaged with unapproved fuel additives. Then the Company started getting pissy and didn't want us to put anything in the fuel. They said the Detroit's circulated enough fuel you didn't need any anti-gel with winterized fuel cut with K1. as long as you didn't shut off your truck that is! But that Theory didn't work for the Reefers! And they started handing out the approved anti-gel at the shop for the Detroit's and Thermo-Kings. Detroit never said anything about used oil in the fuel, But they did say they could tell if an unapproved additive was used when they inspected the Injector. All that said I WOULD NOT PUT USED OIL IN MY 300SD EITHER!! MB fuelpumps and injectors are completely different animals than a Big Trucks. I don't know for sure it would hurt a Mercedes but I wouldn't want to find out with my good car. I would buy a beater and test it first like you are. Russ H.
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist diesels in Portland, OR
Dennis needs to jump on this one. His daughter does not need that SEC he was looking at On Monday, August 22, 2005, at 12:00 AM, kevin kraly wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/car/92564553.html 1958 180B $2500 I bet that little 180D is slow, but would be neat to putt around town in. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] Oil/Diesel Mixtures
Most squids know that ships have used the process for ages. Never actually change the oil, just keep adding fresh On Monday, August 22, 2005, at 05:18 AM, Christopher McCann wrote: Russ, That's very interesting. I had no idea that this was done on such a large scale...or that some trucks had the capability built in (as the other poster mentioned). Cool. Did you notice getting better mileage with the blacker fuel? Christopher --- RAH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Christopher, When I was on the road (18wheeler) Driving for a large national trucking company, with well over 1000 tractors. How do you think they got rid of the used oil? All the tractors were serviced at the company shops.(spread all over the lower 48) Only emergency repairs were allowed on the road. All the shops had fuel pumps and all the used oil went in the fuel. The fuel even had a black tinge to it sometimes. Only thing I noticed when the fuel looked black, was a very tiny loss of hill pulling power. But it didn't make any difference to the last tractor I had, 500HP 60 series Detroit, that motor made most all the hills flat! Russ H ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! I AM A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT, I THINK. -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] Oil/Diesel Mixtures
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All that said I WOULD NOT PUT USED OIL IN MY 300SD EITHER!! MB fuelpumps and injectors are completely different animals than a Big Trucks. Very, very true. The same applies, by the way, to leaving Mercedes diesels idling for prolonged periods... the injectors in highway tractors (and heavy construction equipment, as another example) are set up to minimize coking from prolonged idling. Mercedes are not, so it becomes a judgement call (unless it's -35degC around here, in which case poochy injectors are preferable to a two-ton paperweight in the driveway). I don't know for sure it would hurt a Mercedes but I wouldn't want to find out with my good car. I would buy a beater and test it first like you are. Russ H. I don't recall ever hearing debate on this, on Benz lists, maybe someone else has. Over on the VW lists (and the pre-TDi VWs use very similar Bosch injectors, as do the older GM diesels), there has been great discussion for some time. Some guys run as much as 50 percent waste oil in their tanks, though this makes the hairs on the back of my neck absolutely rigid. (And they have some certified tinfoil cap types in the VW world, trust me on that one, I am IN NO WAY suggesting that makes any sense.) However, if someone were to be bent on trying waste oil recyling, I would make five common sense suggestions: 1. That you maintain a strict 3,000 mile oil change interval, and 2. That you limit it to between .5 and 1 qt of waste to a tankful of diesel, and that you only throw in the waste oil into every second tank fill, and 3. That you buy an automotive stethascope and listen to your injectors every week to gauge if they are continuing to sound okay, 4. That you ONLY ever use your own waste oil, and finally, 5. That you only do this on an otherwise good-running car (in particular, that has clean injectors to begin with) that gets LOTS of highway use, with healthy breathing and complete combustion of the fuel and air. Mac
Re: [MBZ] Oil/Diesel Mixtures
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most squids know that ships have used the process for ages. Never actually change the oil, just keep adding fresh How do you know that? Did a squid tell you? Good lord, it's not even nearly Friday yet and here we go Mac
Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube
It's the feathers. Damn feathers make everything stink. Probably operator error of failure to RTFM. WA state ferry system suspended their trial of BioD. Claimed it clogged the filters.Ran 148k gallons through the ship, plugged filters. Then stopped. Ran D2 for a bit. Went back to BioD. Plug filters. Stop and call in some PhD expert. Get charged bunch of cash to learn-- Biodiesel is a wonderful solvent and it cleans all the CRAP out of your poorly run engines. The process of cleaning will use many filters, but that will stop when all the turds are removed. Labor cost goes up, but then will drop drastically as the ships run smoother. Solution-- Stop using the BioD because it makes the filters plug with crud. Equivalent to not urinating because it hurts to pass a kidney stone. On Monday, August 22, 2005, at 05:36 AM, Christopher McCann wrote: Right, but I think they have hit some snags...which, hopefully, will be worked out. THen I can give them my bacon grease :-) Christopher --- redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Article in Discover Mag. two years ago claims it puts out #2, and able to refine up to petrol of low octane. Think best use was to get carbon black out of all the junk put in. the plant is not supposed to stink. The whole process makes it all clean according to marketing folks On Friday, August 19, 2005, at 08:03 PM, Christopher McCann wrote: thought of visiting the place. It was supposed to put out oil at $15/barrel...right now it's costing $80/barrel and the plant stinks so bad that the neighbors are not happy. Warren Buffett's son is a big investor in it. All I know. I thought it was a lower grade than #2... Christopher --- redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Butterball Turkey plant some place in MO is putting out #2 type fuel for internal vehicle use from the offal. The process is thermal depolymerization and the stuff coming out the end is #2 (must be bio of a sort). Would the thermal part of it have rid the feed stock of water and other crud to the point it renders rendered turkey goo as truck fuel? On Friday, August 19, 2005, at 11:10 AM, LT Don wrote: No, I think he is as serious as an injector heart attack (which isn't a bad analogy). On 8/19/05, Steve MacSween OMG, I thought that was a joke. Unrefined animal fat? Through a Bosch plunger injection pump? Not in this lifetime, even strained do death. -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! I AM A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT, I THINK. -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! I AM A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT, I THINK. -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery
Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD
General Q for bimby Are the injectors used in a VW much the same as for say... a m615? I have a nice salvage set of injectors (whole) from a 616 (75 240) and got a box of VW/audi marked injectors in parts. These look much the same for the upper body. Lower body is not same in length or thread. Would internals be much the same? I am not brave enough to screw with the MB set, but if the guts are the same, I may enjoy abusing more salvage injectors in an attempt to learn rebuilding a set. On Monday, August 22, 2005, at 06:29 AM, RAH wrote: JabbaHursty wrote: the German companies are getting away from manufacturing stuff in germany in a big way. There is a behr fan clutch on our website that sells for less than one of our suppliers sells it for wholesale. at times such as these, i like to go and make fun of someone at the wholesaler in question. in this case, the company is small enough that i could IM the CEO asking him if he'd like to get some from me. This puzzled and upset the CEO as it pretty bad for him when his competitors can sell stuff to me cheaper than he can buy it for, so he dropped everything and went to visit the purchasing department. Turns out the one he was selling was german and the one sold on the buyMBparts website was identical but chinese. The chinese part sells for 2/3 the price of the german one and is reputed to be every bit as good. when the chinese can make it better for 1/3 the price, why would anyone still make anything in western europe? Hey, thanks for the reply I'm just looking for parts that work correctly, I don't really care about where they are made, just that they work. I've heard there are Quality issues with the new Bosch nozzles and Injector rebuilds. Where they are made is irrelevant to me. The only reason I specified German is that's when they supposedly still worked correctly. Like I said before this might be a load of BS, I don't know, but would like to find out. I AM IN NO WAY TRYING TO IMPUGN THE REPUTATION OF RUSTY OR YOU OR ANY OTHER PARTS RETAILER! My biggest fear is if Bosch is having Quality problems with the parts for my old car, they will just stop making the part instead of fixing the problem! If someone has any NOS Bosch or MB nozzles that were made in Germany, for a 617 turbo, and want to sell, I'll pay $35 each until I get a set of 5. Russ H -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube
Hollywood plastic surgeons must have buckets of renderable fat. And some fellow will get the idea for Biodiesel of the Stars from it On Monday, August 22, 2005, at 06:57 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: The cheaper the bacon, the greater the output of grease!! On 8/19/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT Don wrote: $1.59 on sale at Fareway in Iowa. Not the grease -- ya gotta actually cook and eat the stuff to get the grease. I call it my burden for the Chris Project. If I could get a gallon for $1.59 there MIGHT be an argument to be made, but I doubt that $1.59 would generate even a qt of grease Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hollywood plastic surgeons must have buckets of renderable fat. Wow. You mean I can run my 240d off a tankful of Joan Rivers? (SHUDDER) Mac I dunno what dat is, but it AIN'T NO BIODIESEL, DUDE
Re: [MBZ] while we are putting crap into our fuel tanks ...
Water gets into the fuel tank through condensation. Even works in a 55 gallon drum. A fine set up may involve a homogenization tank where feed stock is heated and blended, then you run it through a filtration medium, such as the TP filter into a storage container. From there run it through an oil/water separator and pump into your test platform On Monday, August 22, 2005, at 07:10 AM, Christopher McCann wrote: Mitch, This brings me to another dumb question: where does the water come from? Fuel - could install a water seperator crankcase oil - if you have no cracks allowing coolant into engine, how does water get in the oil? toilet paper filter - now I thought THAT was a joke. How does it work? Is there a special water seperator filter for crankcase oil? After taking the a/c out of the car, I have lots of room for all sorts of separators. Thanks, Mitch Christopher --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: With this mix, it seems that two things can go wrong and are distinguishable - ashing up the engine (particularly the valve seats) and wearing the engine by sulfuric acid. Actually, if the oil analysis comes back too high for sulphur, then it's a forgone conclusion what will happen, so I will use the 2,000 liters for my shop oil burner. We'll see. The sulfur might be OK if there's no H2O present. Toilet paper filters on the engine oil, maybe? ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! I AM A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT, I THINK. -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 168
If it needs a new ICU (probably meaning the LH fuel injection module), they are available used from salvage yards in the $250-$500 range. No need to plunk down $3k for a brand new one. These don't often fail, though. I'd look elsewhere first. :-/ -dm -- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:28:48 -0700 From: Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] SL 600, poor throttle response Don't mean to be the bearer of bad news but this sounds like someone's recent problem with a S500. Turned out it was the ICU. The retail on this ICU alone is $3,275 but that is for a V8 so expect to spend more for a V12! Of course, there are other less expensive possibilities which a treament of techron might cure or even a tune-up. You didn't mention how many miles are on the SL600.
[MBZ] FrankenBenz candidate
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J22B148AB Better run fast. Opportunity to have a 617 powered 107, as long as you provide the 617. Bet you can even get the thing for under $1k -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] people are on crack
93 or older MB are at that price point. Bunch of TE to be had in the Seattle area. Even able to snag 380SL in that range. And it will run. On Monday, August 22, 2005, at 07:16 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Anyone else? What year and model collectible/driveable Mercedes will $6500 buy these days? Preferably an appreciating classic... On 8/22/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For $6500 you could get a VERY nice 300SDL or almost even a 140. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] SL 600, poor throttle response
LCDR Dillon; I'm in west-central Alabama R. Long - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 9:13 AM Subject: [MBZ] SL 600, poor throttle response R. Long, No clue on the gasser problem. A cube-mate just took his newish MB gasser to the mechanic for a set of tires, diagnosis and reset of check engine light, new O2 sensor: $1200 please. Enjoy your ride - no way I could afford those kinds of bills. Where in the South are you? Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR Digest Lurker since 2001 '85 300TD 322k miles (Euro 5spd) '96 Infiniti I30 150k miles (wife's 5spd) '73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification' Charleston SC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD
redghost wrote: General Q for bimby Are the injectors used in a VW much the same as for say... a m615? I have a nice salvage set of injectors (whole) from a 616 (75 240) and got a box of VW/audi marked injectors in parts. These look much the same for the upper body. Lower body is not same in length or thread. Would internals be much the same? I am not brave enough to screw with the MB set, but if the guts are the same, I may enjoy abusing more salvage injectors in an attempt to learn rebuilding a set. You can check and see which Bosch part numbers match, but while I believe the injector body for some older VWs and Mercedes were interchangeable, the nozzles weren't (I know the pintle design was different) and as the designs evolved, I expect the number of interchangeable parts declined too. I expect that some parts remained interchangeable (like shims and maybe springs). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
[MBZ] eBay description of the week
This car is like a tractor http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-Benz-300-DT_W0QQitemZ4569859527QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -Curt - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: [MBZ] people are on crack
i paid $2500 for a very nice 92 300E. deals are out there if have the patience to wait for one. my wife stole it from me though so i'm driving a saturn :( At 02:00 PM 8/22/2005, you wrote: 93 or older MB are at that price point. Bunch of TE to be had in the Seattle area. Even able to snag 380SL in that range. And it will run. On Monday, August 22, 2005, at 07:16 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Anyone else? What year and model collectible/driveable Mercedes will $6500 buy these days? Preferably an appreciating classic... On 8/22/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For $6500 you could get a VERY nice 300SDL or almost even a 140. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] eBay description of the week
The incredibly shrinking slide show: how did he do it? On 8/22/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This car is like a tractor http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-Benz-300-DT_W0QQitemZ4569859527QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -Curt Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD
Rusty Cullens wrote: I can get you new ones fro $158.00 each but why? I would hope that would be the price for the complete injector from MB? What's the MB price on just the nozzle 001 017 29 12 and the spring 000 017 13 17 and the spacers 000 017 36 52 there's a bunch of different thickness Just keep adding 1 to the 36 until you get to 55 a high and low price would be fine. I have Monarch Diesel made in Germany for $23.00 I don't know much about Monarch except they say not to mix with Bosch and replace in sets. There must be something different about them. Has anyone checked the spray patterns on Monarch Nozzles? Thanks for your help Russ H.
Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240
On the other hand, if I choose not to go through the rebuilding process -- anyone want to buy California/Arizona rust-free 240D? Brian 83 240D 122k From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:20:38 -0700 Thanks for the input. However, it seems the engine is siezed. We eliminated the battery, the battery cables, the starter as problems. We pulled off the fan shroud and attempted to bar the engine over, and it won't move. Yes, it's out of gear. What could cause this? I remind you that I was not the one who drove it leading up to this, so just what happened is shrouded in mystery. There is currently plenty of oil on the dipstick and it shows no signs of water. No signs of water as you look into the oil filler hole either. The coolant level in the radiator is below the baffle, but I pulled a heater hose, and some poured out, so it seems it was not run dry? Of course we don't know if someone re-filled the oil and/or the coolant to cover their ass. Just trying to figure this out. Where do I go from here? I really want to keep the car. Not sure I want to trust a used engine from a junk yard. I called Rusty's outfit, and was told they don't sell rebuilt engines. Guess I'll have someone rebuild it? Sorry, listers, I don't feel confident to attempt it myself. Any thoughts? Need to find a truly trustworthy mechanic in the Tucson area, or the Rochester, Minnesota area if I choose to haul it back there with me. Brian 83 240D 122k From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 13:09:21 + Hey Brian, have you charge the battery since? did you use a battery tender or something? Batteries do tend to loose their charge over time. Not just that, it's not voltage that turns a starter but amperage. I have seen bateries show 12V on a meter but act the way you're describing. Have you tried jumpstarting it? -- Original message -- Standard response, make sure all connections are clean and tight. You only need a slight amount of corrosion under the terminals to get a poor connection. Also if the battery has been discharged completely at some stage then it may damage your battery. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Brian Chase To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:33 AM Subject: [MBZ] No Start Question Listers, A basic question, so bear with me. I'm finally in AZ to pick up my '83 240D. It was running pretty well when I left it back in March, save some significant oil burnage. Now there are 700 extra miles on it that weren't there when i left it, and I don't know for sure who may have used or abused it. Let's just say I'm not pleased with my brother. Question: It will not start now. The starter runs slowly and runs down to the point of almost not turning at all after a few seconds. So the battery right? Well it checks out okay with a volt meter (goes down to 9 while cranking and then recovers). And the battery is quite new. So could it be the starter? Or, the other thought: If someone had run it out of motor oil and kept driving, would this be a possible symptom, i.e. the engine being tight, but not siezed yet? Again, excuse the simplicity of my query. Just using all the tools at my disposal. Oh yeah, I bought a one-way ticket out here, so it needs to get me back to MN. WE. Brian 83 240D 122,500 k Dammmit! _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.7/70 - Release Date: 11/08/2005 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN
[MBZ] 600 Poor Throttle response
Hi, All. V12= 2x6=2 ignition systems -1 dead one =poor throttle response? (No I'm not off my meds. just my $0.02 worth) Fred Moir Who knows nothing about gas V12's. Lynn MA This, that, and the other diesel Benz.
Re: [MBZ] Jabba's stolen car
Oh my GAWD, where did you score that? I thought I was doing great to pick up a near-mint 300E for $2400 but that was an '86 with 200k on the clock. I'd have soiled myself finding a 92 for the same price (with body updates and full leather, standard in 92!). After fixing all the assorted little things (cruise, worn steering stuff, etc), replacing all fluids and most rubber/plastic hoses, and generally cleaning it up I don't think I'd let it go for much less than double that. (It's REALLY clean.) Pics are here: http://www.w124performance.com/images/cars/86_300E/ Side note: After driving a 603 diesel, the M103 gas engine just seems plain anemic below 4000rpm... especially in the summer with the A/C on. Oh, and sorry about that Saturn... poor guy... :-) -dm -- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:47:34 -0400 From: JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] people are on crack i paid $2500 for a very nice 92 300E. deals are out there if have the patience to wait for one. my wife stole it from me though so i'm driving a saturn :(
Re: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD
huh? Rusty Cullens wrote: Signed for by Minard 12:52PM 8/18.05 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RAH Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] WTB German injector nozzles for 82 300SD Does anyone have any New Bosch or MB (Made in Germany) injector nozzles for a 82 300SD,They are willing to sell? Looking for a set of 5 but will buy just one at a time until I end up with 5. Russ H. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240
Have you tried to pull start the beast? On 8/22/05, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, if I choose not to go through the rebuilding process -- anyone want to buy California/Arizona rust-free 240D? Brian 83 240D 122k From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:20:38 -0700 Thanks for the input. However, it seems the engine is siezed. We eliminated the battery, the battery cables, the starter as problems. We pulled off the fan shroud and attempted to bar the engine over, and it won't move. Yes, it's out of gear. What could cause this? I remind you that I was not the one who drove it leading up to this, so just what happened is shrouded in mystery. There is currently plenty of oil on the dipstick and it shows no signs of water. No signs of water as you look into the oil filler hole either. The coolant level in the radiator is below the baffle, but I pulled a heater hose, and some poured out, so it seems it was not run dry? Of course we don't know if someone re-filled the oil and/or the coolant to cover their ass. Just trying to figure this out. Where do I go from here? I really want to keep the car. Not sure I want to trust a used engine from a junk yard. I called Rusty's outfit, and was told they don't sell rebuilt engines. Guess I'll have someone rebuild it? Sorry, listers, I don't feel confident to attempt it myself. Any thoughts? Need to find a truly trustworthy mechanic in the Tucson area, or the Rochester, Minnesota area if I choose to haul it back there with me. Brian 83 240D 122k From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 13:09:21 + Hey Brian, have you charge the battery since? did you use a battery tender or something? Batteries do tend to loose their charge over time. Not just that, it's not voltage that turns a starter but amperage. I have seen bateries show 12V on a meter but act the way you're describing. Have you tried jumpstarting it? -- Original message -- Standard response, make sure all connections are clean and tight. You only need a slight amount of corrosion under the terminals to get a poor connection. Also if the battery has been discharged completely at some stage then it may damage your battery. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Brian Chase To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:33 AM Subject: [MBZ] No Start Question Listers, A basic question, so bear with me. I'm finally in AZ to pick up my '83 240D. It was running pretty well when I left it back in March, save some significant oil burnage. Now there are 700 extra miles on it that weren't there when i left it, and I don't know for sure who may have used or abused it. Let's just say I'm not pleased with my brother. Question: It will not start now. The starter runs slowly and runs down to the point of almost not turning at all after a few seconds. So the battery right? Well it checks out okay with a volt meter (goes down to 9 while cranking and then recovers). And the battery is quite new. So could it be the starter? Or, the other thought: If someone had run it out of motor oil and kept driving, would this be a possible symptom, i.e. the engine being tight, but not siezed yet? Again, excuse the simplicity of my query. Just using all the tools at my disposal. Oh yeah, I bought a one-way ticket out here, so it needs to get me back to MN. WE. Brian 83 240D 122,500 k Dammmit! _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.7/70 - Release Date: 11/08/2005 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see
Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240
What a bummer about your 240D! Does the car roll at all when out of gear?? There may be a remote chance that something in the tranny is shot rather than the engine. Is this an auto or manny tranny? If it's a manny, how is the clutch fluid (just trying to be optimistic). If you're ABSOLUTELY SURE that the engine is seized, is the car good enough to be worthy of an engine transplant? With 122K on it, it should be. Maybe, there's a rusted-out MN MB with prime drivetrain waiting for you to buy when you get home. Actually, it would probably be cheaper to swap an engine in before you leave so that you can drive home rather than pay shipping cost for the car. Good luck! Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie
[MBZ] More sellers on crack
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=185013935dealer_id=6720663car_year=1985make=MBdistance=100lang=enmax_price=model=end_year=1990min_price=certified=address=01440search_type=usedadvanced=start_year=1981isp=ycardist=29 I can't imagine where they got this idea... -Curt - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240
Radiator low, engine won't turn, is there a cylinder full of coolant? I know where there is a 1984 300SD with crash damage, said to run well, western Michigan, asking $500.
Re: [MBZ] people are on crack
With all those benz's you have your are back to driving the saturn? Holy crap. JabbaHursty wrote: i paid $2500 for a very nice 92 300E. deals are out there if have the patience to wait for one. my wife stole it from me though so i'm driving a saturn :( At 02:00 PM 8/22/2005, you wrote: 93 or older MB are at that price point. Bunch of TE to be had in the Seattle area. Even able to snag 380SL in that range. And it will run. On Monday, August 22, 2005, at 07:16 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Anyone else? What year and model collectible/driveable Mercedes will $6500 buy these days? Preferably an appreciating classic... On 8/22/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For $6500 you could get a VERY nice 300SDL or almost even a 140. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240
Didn't know what good pull-starting would do me. Would it free up the engine? I mean if it want's to be siezed, will forcing it to turn be okay? From: Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:45:10 -0700 Have you tried to pull start the beast? On 8/22/05, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, if I choose not to go through the rebuilding process -- anyone want to buy California/Arizona rust-free 240D? Brian 83 240D 122k From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:20:38 -0700 Thanks for the input. However, it seems the engine is siezed. We eliminated the battery, the battery cables, the starter as problems. We pulled off the fan shroud and attempted to bar the engine over, and it won't move. Yes, it's out of gear. What could cause this? I remind you that I was not the one who drove it leading up to this, so just what happened is shrouded in mystery. There is currently plenty of oil on the dipstick and it shows no signs of water. No signs of water as you look into the oil filler hole either. The coolant level in the radiator is below the baffle, but I pulled a heater hose, and some poured out, so it seems it was not run dry? Of course we don't know if someone re-filled the oil and/or the coolant to cover their ass. Just trying to figure this out. Where do I go from here? I really want to keep the car. Not sure I want to trust a used engine from a junk yard. I called Rusty's outfit, and was told they don't sell rebuilt engines. Guess I'll have someone rebuild it? Sorry, listers, I don't feel confident to attempt it myself. Any thoughts? Need to find a truly trustworthy mechanic in the Tucson area, or the Rochester, Minnesota area if I choose to haul it back there with me. Brian 83 240D 122k From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 13:09:21 + Hey Brian, have you charge the battery since? did you use a battery tender or something? Batteries do tend to loose their charge over time. Not just that, it's not voltage that turns a starter but amperage. I have seen bateries show 12V on a meter but act the way you're describing. Have you tried jumpstarting it? -- Original message -- Standard response, make sure all connections are clean and tight. You only need a slight amount of corrosion under the terminals to get a poor connection. Also if the battery has been discharged completely at some stage then it may damage your battery. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Brian Chase To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:33 AM Subject: [MBZ] No Start Question Listers, A basic question, so bear with me. I'm finally in AZ to pick up my '83 240D. It was running pretty well when I left it back in March, save some significant oil burnage. Now there are 700 extra miles on it that weren't there when i left it, and I don't know for sure who may have used or abused it. Let's just say I'm not pleased with my brother. Question: It will not start now. The starter runs slowly and runs down to the point of almost not turning at all after a few seconds. So the battery right? Well it checks out okay with a volt meter (goes down to 9 while cranking and then recovers). And the battery is quite new. So could it be the starter? Or, the other thought: If someone had run it out of motor oil and kept driving, would this be a possible symptom, i.e. the engine being tight, but not siezed yet? Again, excuse the simplicity of my query. Just using all the tools at my disposal. Oh yeah, I bought a one-way ticket out here, so it needs to get me back to MN. WE. Brian 83 240D 122,500 k Dammmit! _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.7/70 - Release Date: 11/08/2005
