Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt, if he has one?
Hi Tom, I looked at the IP in my WSM and there's nothing called a Rack Damper Bolt. Might MB use different terminology from what the official term is? (which we of course, use properly) Thanks! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? Thanks Tom, Now that I have a general idea I csan look in the WSM to find it exactly read about it - and what it does. moochs grassyass. (I figger its time for me to learn to speak a little Spanish, obviously very little) ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? It's on the back of the pump, on the flat surface, towards the bottom driver side corner. Look straight down between the oil filter housing the back of the pomp - it's the only thing sticking out down there. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? You're asking the wrong person. I had to call my Indy to locate it on my 300SD (it's on the very back...I think the only thing there, if I remember, that looks like a bolt going straight into the back of the IP and a locking nut). 12mm and 14mm - bolt and nut respectively. This is a question for Marshall or some other guru. LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, Where is the Rack Damper Bolt located? Do I have one on my 91 300D 2.5T? Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] low idle and pulsating idle when engine (not ambienttemp)iscold Got to this yesterday. It (rack damper bolt) was all the way in. I turned it out, with engine running and thingschanged. Went all the way back in and nothing - it's only when adjusting out that things change and you can adjust it. Very interesting. SO, I adjusted out till the engine stopped shaking (although my air filter is shaking like CRAZY AND ALL 3 bushings are new AND still intact). So, the car starts without having to push the pedal (not as perfectly as before), no loping AND there USED to be a vibration (I thought alignment since tires were just balanced) around 75-80 mph. THAT IS ENTIRELY GONE. Aside from terrible filter shaking at idle (which is only reading 550 on the tach, used to be 750), the engine runs MUCH more smoothly. NOW: Should I turn the rack damper bolt out even further to reduce the filter shaking and will that bring my idle back up? Thanks, Chris Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: In. Even with the new screw, it still has to be adjusted sometimes. [SNIP] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, Anke -1985 300SD, 217K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Sponsored Link Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro-*Terms ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D No Glow?
Marshall, this document specifies '81-'84; was there something different about '85s, or does this document pre-date '85s? cheers! e Marshall Booth wrote: ned kleinhenz wrote: Situation: Son's '85 300D glow plug light does not come on. Outside temp is below 40F and car will not start. The 80A fuse in the GP control box is OK. I suspect it needs new glow plugs. But please help confirm my diagnosis is probably correct. Two questions: If my memory serves me correctly - If the GP light does not come on, the following are the potential causes by priority: 1. Blown fuse. 2. At least one bad glow plug 3. GP control system is faulty 4. GP light is burned out. Is this correct? I expect this car probably has the newer parallel glow plug configuration, so I'm not sure how the controller behaves. Other question - if the glow plug light does not come on, does that mean the glow plug circuit is not activating? In other words, will one or more bad glow plugs prevent the entire glow plug cycle from happening? This attachment is appropriate for ALL of the 617.95 engines. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Name: glow8184s.pdf glow8184s.pdfType: Acrobat (application/pdf) Encoding: base64 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D No Glow?
85 would be the same, oh yea, Im not marshall though. ernest breakfield wrote: Marshall, this document specifies '81-'84; was there something different about '85s, or does this document pre-date '85s? cheers! e -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt, if he has one?
It's called a PIN A742674 item 257 on the part sheet, 617.952 engine, 07 injection pump, 045 injection pump. It doesn't look like the non-turbo injection pumps had one? BTW (shamless plug) I've a used one here for oh say $50 usa. On 15-Nov-06, at 4:10 PM, LarryT wrote: Hi Tom, I looked at the IP in my WSM and there's nothing called a Rack Damper Bolt. Might MB use different terminology from what the official term is? (which we of course, use properly) Thanks! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? Thanks Tom, Now that I have a general idea I csan look in the WSM to find it exactly read about it - and what it does. moochs grassyass. (I figger its time for me to learn to speak a little Spanish, obviously very little) ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? It's on the back of the pump, on the flat surface, towards the bottom driver side corner. Look straight down between the oil filter housing the back of the pomp - it's the only thing sticking out down there. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? You're asking the wrong person. I had to call my Indy to locate it on my 300SD (it's on the very back...I think the only thing there, if I remember, that looks like a bolt going straight into the back of the IP and a locking nut). 12mm and 14mm - bolt and nut respectively. This is a question for Marshall or some other guru. LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, Where is the Rack Damper Bolt located? Do I have one on my 91 300D 2.5T? Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] low idle and pulsating idle when engine (not ambienttemp)iscold Got to this yesterday. It (rack damper bolt) was all the way in. I turned it out, with engine running and thingschanged. Went all the way back in and nothing - it's only when adjusting out that things change and you can adjust it. Very interesting. SO, I adjusted out till the engine stopped shaking (although my air filter is shaking like CRAZY AND ALL 3 bushings are new AND still intact). So, the car starts without having to push the pedal (not as perfectly as before), no loping AND there USED to be a vibration (I thought alignment since tires were just balanced) around 75-80 mph. THAT IS ENTIRELY GONE. Aside from terrible filter shaking at idle (which is only reading 550 on the tach, used to be 750), the engine runs MUCH more smoothly. NOW: Should I turn the rack damper bolt out even further to reduce the filter shaking and will that bring my idle back up? Thanks, Chris Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: In. Even with the new screw, it still has to be adjusted sometimes. [SNIP] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, Anke -1985 300SD, 217K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Sponsored Link Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro-*Terms ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official
[MBZ] cheap 87 300D
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1987-Mercedes-Benz-300d-turbo-diesel-fl-car-no-reser_W0QQitemZ190052289569QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] lots of crack
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-300SD-Turbo-SHOWROOM-QUALITY-COLLECTOR-1983-Mercedes-300SD-Turbo_W0QQitemZ230052230141QQihZ013QQcategoryZ6336QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] need a lap top DVD drive
DVD/burner drive on toshiba laptop is bad, where is the best place online to get a replacement? Probably ebay? Doesnt have to be a toshiba one does it? Assume any would work? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] need a lap top DVD drive
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: DVD/burner drive on toshiba laptop is bad, where is the best place online to get a replacement? Probably ebay? Doesnt have to be a toshiba one does it? Assume any would work? Is this one of those slide-in, removable ones? You're probably going to have to get a Toshiba one meant for the same model. There's no standardization as to the size and shape of those. If there's a computer recycler or surplus outlet near you, they often have big piles of laptop drives. Or try these guys: http://www.repc.com/
Re: [MBZ] need a lap top DVD drive
yea its one of those slide in removable kind. In fact I need to pull it and see what it is exactly. I do believe its actually a Sony drive. David Brodbeck wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: DVD/burner drive on toshiba laptop is bad, where is the best place online to get a replacement? Probably ebay? Doesnt have to be a toshiba one does it? Assume any would work? Is this one of those slide-in, removable ones? You're probably going to have to get a Toshiba one meant for the same model. There's no standardization as to the size and shape of those. If there's a computer recycler or surplus outlet near you, they often have big piles of laptop drives. Or try these guys: http://www.repc.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] need a lap top DVD drive
Most of those are standard (Mac Wallstreets use a different interface) -- you may have to change the plastic body or door, but the guts are all the same. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt, if he has one?
Thanks John, I'll look thru my WSM tomorrow to see if anything looks familiar. Nice little shameless plug - but I need to *find* my Rack Bolt -- replacing it with a used one may be just a *tad* premature. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? It's called a PIN A742674 item 257 on the part sheet, 617.952 engine, 07 injection pump, 045 injection pump. It doesn't look like the non-turbo injection pumps had one? BTW (shamless plug) I've a used one here for oh say $50 usa. On 15-Nov-06, at 4:10 PM, LarryT wrote: Hi Tom, I looked at the IP in my WSM and there's nothing called a Rack Damper Bolt. Might MB use different terminology from what the official term is? (which we of course, use properly) Thanks! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? Thanks Tom, Now that I have a general idea I csan look in the WSM to find it exactly read about it - and what it does. moochs grassyass. (I figger its time for me to learn to speak a little Spanish, obviously very little) ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? It's on the back of the pump, on the flat surface, towards the bottom driver side corner. Look straight down between the oil filter housing the back of the pomp - it's the only thing sticking out down there. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? You're asking the wrong person. I had to call my Indy to locate it on my 300SD (it's on the very back...I think the only thing there, if I remember, that looks like a bolt going straight into the back of the IP and a locking nut). 12mm and 14mm - bolt and nut respectively. This is a question for Marshall or some other guru. LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, Where is the Rack Damper Bolt located? Do I have one on my 91 300D 2.5T? Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] low idle and pulsating idle when engine (not ambienttemp)iscold Got to this yesterday. It (rack damper bolt) was all the way in. I turned it out, with engine running and thingschanged. Went all the way back in and nothing - it's only when adjusting out that things change and you can adjust it. Very interesting. SO, I adjusted out till the engine stopped shaking (although my air filter is shaking like CRAZY AND ALL 3 bushings are new AND still intact). So, the car starts without having to push the pedal (not as perfectly as before), no loping AND there USED to be a vibration (I thought alignment since tires were just balanced) around 75-80 mph. THAT IS ENTIRELY GONE. Aside from terrible filter shaking at idle (which is only reading 550 on the tach, used to be 750), the engine runs MUCH more smoothly. NOW: Should I turn the rack damper bolt out even further to reduce the filter shaking and will that bring my idle back up? Thanks, Chris Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: In. Even with the new screw, it still has to
Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt, if he has one?
Replacing the rack damper with a used one is not the answer. Mercedes designed a replacement with higher spring tension to help prevent hunting. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? Thanks John, I'll look thru my WSM tomorrow to see if anything looks familiar. Nice little shameless plug - but I need to *find* my Rack Bolt -- replacing it with a used one may be just a *tad* premature. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? It's called a PIN A742674 item 257 on the part sheet, 617.952 engine, 07 injection pump, 045 injection pump. It doesn't look like the non-turbo injection pumps had one? BTW (shamless plug) I've a used one here for oh say $50 usa. On 15-Nov-06, at 4:10 PM, LarryT wrote: Hi Tom, I looked at the IP in my WSM and there's nothing called a Rack Damper Bolt. Might MB use different terminology from what the official term is? (which we of course, use properly) Thanks! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? Thanks Tom, Now that I have a general idea I csan look in the WSM to find it exactly read about it - and what it does. moochs grassyass. (I figger its time for me to learn to speak a little Spanish, obviously very little) ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? It's on the back of the pump, on the flat surface, towards the bottom driver side corner. Look straight down between the oil filter housing the back of the pomp - it's the only thing sticking out down there. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? You're asking the wrong person. I had to call my Indy to locate it on my 300SD (it's on the very back...I think the only thing there, if I remember, that looks like a bolt going straight into the back of the IP and a locking nut). 12mm and 14mm - bolt and nut respectively. This is a question for Marshall or some other guru. LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, Where is the Rack Damper Bolt located? Do I have one on my 91 300D 2.5T? Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] low idle and pulsating idle when engine (not ambienttemp)iscold Got to this yesterday. It (rack damper bolt) was all the way in. I turned it out, with engine running and thingschanged. Went all the way back in and nothing - it's only when adjusting out that things change and you can adjust it. Very interesting. SO, I adjusted out till the engine stopped shaking (although my air filter is shaking like CRAZY AND ALL 3 bushings are new AND still intact). So,
[MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato
These are pretty cool, eh? http://www2.lut.fi/~holtta/mb/4matic/ -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane injection #22 (219k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] 115 chassis 220D
I had one of those too - a 1977, and a 1982, and a 1983, and a 1984... Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 3:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 115 chassis 220D Why? I have a 76 300D and highly recommend one. Randy -Original Message- Now, with all of this talk about 115 bodies, I kind of miss my 220D 240Ds. They were great cars. Someone please stop me before I buy another Thanks, Tom Hargrave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Used oops pre-owned computer bits
,If there's a computer recycler or surplus outlet near you, they often have big piles of laptop drives. Or try these guys: http://www.repc.com/ Good idea. I picked up a 15 gig hard drive last month from RePC for an IMac 700 I fell heir to for a paltry twenty bucks. RLE/Seattle
Re: [MBZ] Used oops pre-owned computer bits
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good idea. I picked up a 15 gig hard drive last month from RePC for an IMac 700 I fell heir to for a paltry twenty bucks. RePC and Boeing Surplus are two of the best things about living in the Seattle area. ;)
Re: [MBZ] Used oops pre-owned computer bits
Boeing Surplus, rocks On 11/15/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RePC and Boeing Surplus are two of the best things about living in the Seattle area. ;) -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane injection #22 (219k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] OT Carfax please
Good thing Bambi didn't tangle with the SDL.Bambi would have lost that battle. On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:14:24 -0600, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VIN 2B4GP44391R261802 Yeah, it is a dodge, the stepson of MB, Bambi bit the dodge van, so I am looking for a replacement. Dodge 0 Bambi totalled the van and got away. Bambi 1 Thanks! Loren Faeth 86 SDL et al -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car
Re: [MBZ] need a lap top DVD drive
thanks, took the one out of the laptop and the plastic frame deal looks easy to remove. Peter Frederick wrote: Most of those are standard (Mac Wallstreets use a different interface) -- you may have to change the plastic body or door, but the guts are all the same. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT Carfax please
Yep, I dare any critter to take on the SDL. Although the Kamikaze pheasant did take out a headlight in a daring nighttime attack. So far we have taken 6 deer out of 120 acres, and not made a dent in the population. The hunters can go out and find deer anytime. I calculated there are about 3000 per square mile. Meanwhile the Wizards at the state DNR are trying to get the population UP to 15 per square mile. They are a little disconnected from reality! At 09:41 PM 11/15/2006, you wrote: Good thing Bambi didn't tangle with the SDL.Bambi would have lost that battle. On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:14:24 -0600, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VIN 2B4GP44391R261802 Yeah, it is a dodge, the stepson of MB, Bambi bit the dodge van, so I am looking for a replacement. Dodge 0 Bambi totalled the van and got away. Bambi 1 Thanks! Loren Faeth 86 SDL et al -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] OT Carfax please
Good thing Bambi didn't tangle with the SDL.Bambi would have lost that battle. No, deer never lose. Or maybe more accurately, you never win. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato
These are pretty cool, eh? http://www2.lut.fi/~holtta/mb/4matic/ Yes indeedy. Wonder which item is there to provide the front/rear slip? It wasn't completely obvious to me, but no doubt it has to be there. The page implied that there were 300D/300TD cars available with 4-matic. If there were (here in the US), there'd be at least two of them on our hillside alone. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 220D Oil Consumption
One question I have, now that the vacuum pump is open. Should the two check valves be seated the same way? Currently they are not: To the diaphragm chamber one valve needs to face one way and the other the other. That's what ensures the air moves in one direction as it's pumped, if it were wrong you would get no vacuum at all. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT Carfax please
population. The hunters can go out and find deer anytime. I calculated there are about 3000 per square mile. Meanwhile the Wizards at the state DNR are trying to get the population UP to 15 per square mile. They include areas like lakes. Oceans... -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:11:12 -0600 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most think I'm nuts until I pull out the service manual show them the text. What section? Craig
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D No Glow?
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:29:38 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After that round, you _will_ know what is wrong, except in a small percentage of cases where, for example, a GP is not entirely bad and is drawing out-of-spec current. But that won't keep it from starting, usually. With the addition of a high-current DC ammeter (of whatever stripe) you can even diagnose those with surety. Pulling the glow plugs and (carefully) connecting them across the battery and looking for an orange glow works great, too. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern
From memory, it's in the 114 / 115 chassis book, in the tire section. I haven't looked in a while Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:11:12 -0600 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most think I'm nuts until I pull out the service manual show them the text. What section? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1971 220D Oil Consumption
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:33:10 -0500 dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One question I have, now that the vacuum pump is open. Should the two check valves be seated the same way? Currently they are not: the check valve that leads to the brake booster hose allows air to be sucked inward, creating a vacuum in the brake booster. The check valve that leads to the intake manifold is the opposite, allowing air to be sucked outward, toward the intake. I'm pretty sure that the check valve that leads to the brake booster is correctly installed, but I'm not sure about the other check valve. Even if it weren't correct, would it make that much difference? Thanks again. Think about what the vacuum pump is supposed to do: Diesels always run with little intake restriction (yes, I know about the damper in the 615.912 intake), so the manifold vacuum is lower than that on gasoline engines. The vacuum pump is supposed to provide a higher-than-intake-manifold vacuum by taking air from the brake booster and dumping it into the intake manifold, so the brake booster has more vacuum to run on. So, your check valves are correct. It would make a lot of difference if they were not correct. Craig
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D No Glow?
Pulling the glow plugs and (carefully) connecting them across the battery and looking for an orange glow works great, too. Also useful information, but I don't know if it would have caught my one GP that drew 2x normal current. But the ammeter fingered it. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D No Glow?
Glow plugs that draw 2X normal current usually take care of themselves pretty quickly. They start drawing 0 current after a few cycles. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300D No Glow? Pulling the glow plugs and (carefully) connecting them across the battery and looking for an orange glow works great, too. Also useful information, but I don't know if it would have caught my one GP that drew 2x normal current. But the ammeter fingered it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:56:45 -0800 Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are pretty cool, eh? http://www2.lut.fi/~holtta/mb/4matic/ Yes, indeed. They are also pretty complicated -- lots of things to break. Craig
[MBZ] 83 300SD; showroom car
$34,900 starting bid; RESERVE NOT MET?!?!??!?! couldn't a person buy a nice NEW merc. benz. for about this price?? Steve
Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD; showroom car
A small C class. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen D Murrell Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:48 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 83 300SD; showroom car $34,900 starting bid; RESERVE NOT MET?!?!??!?! couldn't a person buy a nice NEW merc. benz. for about this price?? Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water Wetter
Doing a fluid change on the e300d a few years ago, I used it as insurance for the trip from Seattle to D.C. and Florida. No great heat at home to worry about, but I knew I would be doing hills and heat close to the Atlantic and midwest. Worked like a charm, keeping the temps under 110 in traffic On Nov 12, 2006, at 6:27 AM, John Peterson wrote: I had the Redline water wetter in my Saab- it did drop the temp by a noticeable amount at idle in the summer. John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does that Wetter Water Redline stuff do anything? Regards Tom Scordato ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] E300D no start
The AAA shop did not have tools to fix the leak on our e300d so told me to take it somewhere that does. They did narrow it down to the IP area. Either the tube is failed, the seals are shot or We will find out Monday. On Nov 15, 2006, at 7:24 AM, ned kleinhenz wrote: While following these lists, I notice a high number of '95 E300D owners are fighting fuel leak problems. I own two of them, and they both were leaving smelly spots on the driveway. They became hard to start, and lacked their normal power, sometimes totally stalling. Last weekend, I replace all five of the clear plastic fuel lines between the fuel filters and FI pump on one of my '95's. Replaced the included o-rings and metal seals too. That made a huge difference. I've been driving a '95 E300D since Sept 1998. Except for that stupid shut off valve on top of the fuel filter, never had problems with any fuel leaks prior to recent months. I've never used BioD. So the probable cause is either very precisely programmed obsolesence of the fuel system polymers, or ULSD. Take your pick. Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] need a lap top DVD drive
Might just get yourself a USB or firewire external at Fry's. Cost about the same. I love REPC! Last time I visited they did not have many Toshiba drives though. If they do, the drive is good. Can not say the same for ebay On Nov 15, 2006, at 4:50 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: DVD/burner drive on toshiba laptop is bad, where is the best place online to get a replacement? Probably ebay? Doesnt have to be a toshiba one does it? Assume any would work? Is this one of those slide-in, removable ones? You're probably going to have to get a Toshiba one meant for the same model. There's no standardization as to the size and shape of those. If there's a computer recycler or surplus outlet near you, they often have big piles of laptop drives. Or try these guys: http://www.repc.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D No Glow?
Glow plugs that draw 2X normal current usually take care of themselves pretty quickly. They start drawing 0 current after a few cycles. I drove it for a couple of months that way before finally replacing the plug. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Used oops pre-owned computer bits
Man, we are soo pitiful! We just get our rocks off hitting these surplus places and getting goodies. I had to clean my garage twice to get rid of it all. Filled it twice with all the great toys. I bet Wichita has a surplus as well. Maybe Kaleb needs to get some 737 parts On Nov 15, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: Boeing Surplus, rocks On 11/15/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RePC and Boeing Surplus are two of the best things about living in the Seattle area. ;) -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane injection #22 (219k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] OT Carfax please
I just got 40 pounds of fresh venison. BiL and I had been hunting last weekend for modern firearms and came up goose egg. He was on the way home after work Monday and some guy two cars ahead decided to send a buck his way over the car between them. After the state trooper put it down, BiL took it home and had his third buck of the year. Next week bow hunting opens again, On Nov 15, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: population. The hunters can go out and find deer anytime. I calculated there are about 3000 per square mile. Meanwhile the Wizards at the state DNR are trying to get the population UP to 15 per square mile. They include areas like lakes. Oceans... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern
Would you have a idea what was the toe-in differences with and without pushing out on the wheels. Keen to know if the force sufficed which I understand should be around 100 N. mak Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern Most tire shops don't use a spreader bar here either. I've stood under the car, pushing out on the inside front edges of the tires while the tech took his readings. Most think I'm nuts until I pull out the service manual show them the text. Then the response is always a version of I didn't know or It figures, it's a Mercedes. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern Peter Merle wrote: No spreader bar was used- I have never seen this being done here in South Africa. Joints are all very tight everywhere. Would too much toe-in or toe-out cause this condition If no spreader bar was used, that would tend to make them set the car for too much toe out. The spreader bar pushes the front of the tires out, and the technician adjusts them back inward, thereby increasing toe-in to compensate for wear. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006
Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern - now added poor service
I must get the section out and show these idiots and demand a refund. I have paid money twice for their expert advice and just get poor service. This is fairly typical of certainly motor car service in South Africa where one has to micromanage all service providers activities. IS the same typical elsewhere? How is it in the US? PEter -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2006 06:39 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern From memory, it's in the 114 / 115 chassis book, in the tire section. I haven't looked in a while Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:11:12 -0600 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most think I'm nuts until I pull out the service manual show them the text. What section? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern - now added poor service
Peter, Here in the states, tire changers alignment techs are on the low end of the mechanic pay scale. But they don't have to be on the high end because it does not take a lot of skill to run a modern alignment machine. General mechanics are another story. There are some true craftsmen around - you just have to find them. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Merle Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern - now added poor service I must get the section out and show these idiots and demand a refund. I have paid money twice for their expert advice and just get poor service. This is fairly typical of certainly motor car service in South Africa where one has to micromanage all service providers activities. IS the same typical elsewhere? How is it in the US? PEter -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2006 06:39 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern From memory, it's in the 114 / 115 chassis book, in the tire section. I haven't looked in a while Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:11:12 -0600 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most think I'm nuts until I pull out the service manual show them the text. What section? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern
Actual difference depends on the amount of wear on all of the suspension parts. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M.Afzaal.Khan Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern Would you have a idea what was the toe-in differences with and without pushing out on the wheels. Keen to know if the force sufficed which I understand should be around 100 N. mak Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern Most tire shops don't use a spreader bar here either. I've stood under the car, pushing out on the inside front edges of the tires while the tech took his readings. Most think I'm nuts until I pull out the service manual show them the text. Then the response is always a version of I didn't know or It figures, it's a Mercedes. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern Peter Merle wrote: No spreader bar was used- I have never seen this being done here in South Africa. Joints are all very tight everywhere. Would too much toe-in or toe-out cause this condition If no spreader bar was used, that would tend to make them set the car for too much toe out. The spreader bar pushes the front of the tires out, and the technician adjusts them back inward, thereby increasing toe-in to compensate for wear. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I found one!
It's a 1983 300SD with 284K on the clock. It has very nice gray paint, pretty good gray interior other than some dash cracks and worn seat springs, no blowby, strong firm shifting tranny that shifts when it's supposed to both up and down, all working power windows and sunroof, and it made the 70 mile drive through rain, wind and traffic up from Albany to Hillsboro with no problem! It could use pads and rotors in the front, and Rusty has them on sale, YEAH! A diesel Purge and a valve adjustment are also in the future. Now, here's the bad stuff, and the list isn't too long! First off, it needs working power seat mechanisms. Right now, The driver's seat is stuck all the way back which is great only for someone with very long legs! The motor runs, but the seat doesn't go anywhere. Also, the power seat switch knobs are missing leaving only little pieces to grab onto, not too functional. Does this require a new switch? If so, does the whole door panel need to be removed to do the job? Second: the central locking system doesn't work. I know that it could be as simple as a fuse, or moisture in the trunk could have damaged the pump in the spare tire well since it's leaking. Third: AC doesn't work which isn't too big of a worry yet. The ACC does work with good heat and defrost when needed. Fourth: The panel above the rear window that houses the interior light is sagging in the center although it's secure on both ends. Could it be missing a clip that keeps the center in place? I thought that $1300 was a good deal for a very good running and very presentable deily driver. I'm sure I'll have other questions as I become more familiar with the W126 chassis, my first turbo diesel Mercedes! Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1983 300SD 284K miles, waiting for a name
Re: [MBZ] I found one!
Kevin, The knobs just press onto the seat controls but they can be hard to find. The seat mechanism is broken. The central lock system pump is likely bad. AC could get expensive. Great price. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin kraly Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] I found one! It's a 1983 300SD with 284K on the clock. It has very nice gray paint, pretty good gray interior other than some dash cracks and worn seat springs, no blowby, strong firm shifting tranny that shifts when it's supposed to both up and down, all working power windows and sunroof, and it made the 70 mile drive through rain, wind and traffic up from Albany to Hillsboro with no problem! It could use pads and rotors in the front, and Rusty has them on sale, YEAH! A diesel Purge and a valve adjustment are also in the future. Now, here's the bad stuff, and the list isn't too long! First off, it needs working power seat mechanisms. Right now, The driver's seat is stuck all the way back which is great only for someone with very long legs! The motor runs, but the seat doesn't go anywhere. Also, the power seat switch knobs are missing leaving only little pieces to grab onto, not too functional. Does this require a new switch? If so, does the whole door panel need to be removed to do the job? Second: the central locking system doesn't work. I know that it could be as simple as a fuse, or moisture in the trunk could have damaged the pump in the spare tire well since it's leaking. Third: AC doesn't work which isn't too big of a worry yet. The ACC does work with good heat and defrost when needed. Fourth: The panel above the rear window that houses the interior light is sagging in the center although it's secure on both ends. Could it be missing a clip that keeps the center in place? I thought that $1300 was a good deal for a very good running and very presentable deily driver. I'm sure I'll have other questions as I become more familiar with the W126 chassis, my first turbo diesel Mercedes! Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1983 300SD 284K miles, waiting for a name ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I found one!
Thanks, Tom, for the info. I know of a 300SD parts car though I may have discovered it too late. I'm sure I'll be able to find the necessary parts to get her in top form. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1983 300SD 284K miles, unnamed
[MBZ] 1980 300D parts car or replace engine
I forgot to mention that the owner of the 300SD that I bought also has a 1980 300D that doesn't run. He bought it and discovered that the timing was off. He replaced the chain and brought it back into spec, but it still isn't right. He thinks it may have bent/damaged valves causing low compression to the point where it catches but doesn't quite start. It has a nice body and interior, good for parts or ready for an engine swap. He's asking $400 for it, and it has 135K on the clock. If you would like to contact him, call (541)619-6490 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1983 300SD 284K miles
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D parts car or replace engine
Too far away too much work considering my crazy schedule. But thanks for thinking of me anyway. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin kraly Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:04 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 1980 300D parts car or replace engine I forgot to mention that the owner of the 300SD that I bought also has a 1980 300D that doesn't run. He bought it and discovered that the timing was off. He replaced the chain and brought it back into spec, but it still isn't right. He thinks it may have bent/damaged valves causing low compression to the point where it catches but doesn't quite start. It has a nice body and interior, good for parts or ready for an engine swap. He's asking $400 for it, and it has 135K on the clock. If you would like to contact him, call (541)619-6490 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1983 300SD 284K miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I found one!
Kevin - The motor runs, but the seat doesn't go anywhere. likely the actuator cable has worn out ends slipping or sometimes they are coming out of the socket on the motor Also, the power seat switch knobs are missing leaving only little pieces to grab onto, if the switch isn't broken, the knobs just push on If so, does the whole door panel need to be removed to do the job? Maybe, on my '81 you had to solder in a new switch connector as the switch was soldered directly to the wires with no connector. Not sure of when they came with connectors. I believe that on the ones with the connector you just have to remove the trim around the switch to remove them Second: the central locking system doesn't work. I know that it could be as simple as a fuse, or moisture in the trunk could have damaged the pump in the spare tire well since it's leaking. What's leaking? if the pump isn't running at all remove it and apply voltage directly. try reverse polarity as well. If it runs you need to plug the outlet wqith you finger to make it switch over and then reverse polarity to run the other way. If the motor is ok then you have a vacuum leak. If that is the case, i.e. good pump, then report that back and I will go into detail of how to diagnose that. Third: AC doesn't work which isn't too big of a worry yet. repairable just can easily run into a grand or more
Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato
On 11/15/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are pretty cool, eh? http://www2.lut.fi/~holtta/mb/4matic/ Yes indeedy. Wonder which item is there to provide the front/rear slip? It wasn't completely obvious to me, but no doubt it has to be there. Computer-controlled clutches of some kind inside the center differential, making the front/rear torque allotment variable. As Craig points out, this is a far more complicated AWD approach than the ones used at the time by Audi (a simple open differential with manual either-or lockup) and BMW (a heat-sensitive viscous clutch like the ones used on our engine fans). Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD; showroom car
It's nice to have one that's in good working order for $1300. However, I couldn't see (no pun intended) paying more than $34K for a 23 year old brand new car although nothing made today is as easy to work on. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1983 300SD 284K miles, Johanna
Re: [MBZ] I found one!
Then again it could just be a leaky O ring but will still cost money, especially over here where you are not allowed to charge/discharge systems without a license. That's the story with my new to me 201, a leaky O ring is the problem(well the idler bearing sounds like it has seen better days) but I had to get the system filled up and now have to get it discharged in order to replace the O ring. Hendrik who is only thinking of the children when spending money on the A/C system - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found one! and I will go into detail of how to diagnose that. Third: AC doesn't work which isn't too big of a worry yet. repairable just can easily run into a grand or more ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.6/535 - Release Date: 15/11/2006
Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato
Of course this is MB we are talking about, engineered like no other car. Probably superior in operation but hellishly expensive to fix if it breaks. Don't know wether Rusty stocks too many of these clutches? Hendrik who wonders if other MB all wheel drive systems like the ML and G use the same principles - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato Computer-controlled clutches of some kind inside the center differential, making the front/rear torque allotment variable. As Craig points out, this is a far more complicated AWD approach than the ones used at the time by Audi (a simple open differential with manual either-or lockup) and BMW (a heat-sensitive viscous clutch like the ones used on our engine fans). Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.6/535 - Release Date: 15/11/2006
Re: [MBZ] I found one!
Not so! Rusty has 'em. I've had to replace them on my 190D after the ham-handed previous owner broke all the knobs off on both sides... -Curt Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 02:09:18 -0600 From: Tom Hargrave Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found one! To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Kevin, The knobs just press onto the seat controls but they can be hard to find. - Sponsored Link $200,000 mortgage for $660/mo - 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt, home equity - Click now for info From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 16 13:53:12 2006 Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com ([64.233.162.200]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gkhfz-0005n6-4v for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:53:11 + Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id n29so311338nzf for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 05:51:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.97.17 with SMTP id z17mr813354pyl.1163685090900; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 05:51:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.86.13 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 05:51:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 05:51:30 -0800 From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:53:14 - Those front coil springs sure are a bizarre design. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane injection #22 (219k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] I found one!
hendrik, you know that kids rode around in cars long before A/C was in cars give them a water bottle and let them sweat it out. On 11/16/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not so! Rusty has 'em. I've had to replace them on my 190D after the ham-handed previous owner broke all the knobs off on both sides... -Curt Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 02:09:18 -0600 From: Tom Hargrave Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found one! To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Kevin, The knobs just press onto the seat controls but they can be hard to find. - Sponsored Link $200,000 mortgage for $660/mo - 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt, home equity - Click now for info ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] I found one!
Yep, and walked uphill to school both ways in the snow in August. --R Sunil Hari wrote: hendrik, you know that kids rode around in cars long before A/C was in cars give them a water bottle and let them sweat it out. On 11/16/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not so! Rusty has 'em. I've had to replace them on my 190D after the ham-handed previous owner broke all the knobs off on both sides... -Curt Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 02:09:18 -0600 From: Tom Hargrave Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found one! To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Kevin, The knobs just press onto the seat controls but they can be hard to find. - Sponsored Link $200,000 mortgage for $660/mo - 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt, home equity - Click now for info ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Am I wasting money on glow plugs?
Most of the glow plug threads seem to involve a lot of discussion about isolating a bad glow plug to replace it. When I have glow plug problems, I always start by sending Rusty $60+/- for a whole new set, then installing them. This is because I only have to replace them once every few years and many 10's of 1000's miles. In more than 20 years of driving MB diesels, I have never had a random failure of a young glow plug. Is that common occurance, and I'm just lucky not to experience it? Or do most glow plugs last almost forever, and all I should really need to replace is one or two that go bad? I'm always ready to learn a better way. Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD (need the garage space - its gotta go)
Re: [MBZ] Am I wasting money on glow plugs?
Hi Ned, I started one of the recent threads about diagnosing a bad GP. Also, I agree with you method of replacing all GPS instead of trying to locate a bad one, then replacing the GP with a problem. But I recenty replaced all 5 GPs - then my relay started to act funny - the preglow light would flash for less than a second. Which indicates a bad #1 GP or 2 others. Since all my GPs are new I thought perhaps one had died an early death. Also, the relay stopped lighting the GPs at all - making the car almost impossible to start when cold - so I replaced the relay. Now, I still need to isolate the problem. Next, I'll remove the Intake Manufold to gain access to the GP's but I'm still needing to ID which GP has a problem. At Jim's suggestion I've been looking for a meter that will read the DC Current draw but Sears was out of them. Maybe next week or maybe I'll find one on the net. Later -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:57 AM Subject: [MBZ] Am I wasting money on glow plugs? Most of the glow plug threads seem to involve a lot of discussion about isolating a bad glow plug to replace it. When I have glow plug problems, I always start by sending Rusty $60+/- for a whole new set, then installing them. This is because I only have to replace them once every few years and many 10's of 1000's miles. In more than 20 years of driving MB diesels, I have never had a random failure of a young glow plug. Is that common occurance, and I'm just lucky not to experience it? Or do most glow plugs last almost forever, and all I should really need to replace is one or two that go bad? I'm always ready to learn a better way. Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD (need the garage space - its gotta go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.6/535 - Release Date: 11/15/2006
Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt, if he has one?
Hi Tom, What are the warning signs of a bad/dieing Rack Damper Bolt? If I have one, need to know how to tell if it's bad. Man! This is getting complicated! TIA, Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? Replacing the rack damper with a used one is not the answer. Mercedes designed a replacement with higher spring tension to help prevent hunting. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? Thanks John, I'll look thru my WSM tomorrow to see if anything looks familiar. Nice little shameless plug - but I need to *find* my Rack Bolt -- replacing it with a used one may be just a *tad* premature. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? It's called a PIN A742674 item 257 on the part sheet, 617.952 engine, 07 injection pump, 045 injection pump. It doesn't look like the non-turbo injection pumps had one? BTW (shamless plug) I've a used one here for oh say $50 usa. On 15-Nov-06, at 4:10 PM, LarryT wrote: Hi Tom, I looked at the IP in my WSM and there's nothing called a Rack Damper Bolt. Might MB use different terminology from what the official term is? (which we of course, use properly) Thanks! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? Thanks Tom, Now that I have a general idea I csan look in the WSM to find it exactly read about it - and what it does. moochs grassyass. (I figger its time for me to learn to speak a little Spanish, obviously very little) ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? It's on the back of the pump, on the flat surface, towards the bottom driver side corner. Look straight down between the oil filter housing the back of the pomp - it's the only thing sticking out down there. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt,if he has one? You're asking the wrong person. I had to call my Indy to locate it on my 300SD (it's on the very back...I think the only thing there, if I remember, that looks like a bolt going straight into the back of the IP and a locking nut). 12mm and 14mm - bolt and nut respectively. This is a question for Marshall or some other guru. LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, Where is the Rack Damper Bolt located? Do I have one on my 91 300D 2.5T? Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . -
Re: [MBZ] Used oops pre-owned computer bits
yea, thats what I need Redghost wrote: Man, we are soo pitiful! We just get our rocks off hitting these surplus places and getting goodies. I had to clean my garage twice to get rid of it all. Filled it twice with all the great toys. I bet Wichita has a surplus as well. Maybe Kaleb needs to get some 737 parts -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I found one!
kevin kraly wrote: It's a 1983 300SD with 284K on the clock. It has very nice gray paint, pretty good gray interior other than some dash cracks and worn seat springs, no blowby, strong firm shifting tranny that shifts when it's supposed to both up and down, all working power windows and sunroof, and it made the 70 mile drive through rain, wind and traffic up from Albany to Hillsboro with no problem! It could use pads and rotors in the front, and Rusty has them on sale, YEAH! A diesel Purge and a valve adjustment are also in the future. Now, here's the bad stuff, and the list isn't too long! First off, it needs working power seat mechanisms. Right now, The driver's seat is stuck all the way back which is great only for someone with very long legs! The motor runs, but the seat doesn't go anywhere. Needs a new seat cable, not a big deal. Also, the power seat switch knobs are missing leaving only little pieces to grab onto, not too functional. Does this require a new switch? If so, does the whole door panel need to be removed to do the job? YOu just need the knobs, they just snap on, unless the actual studs are broken off, then you will need a new switch. And yes, yo uhave to remove the door panel. Second: the central locking system doesn't work. I know that it could be as simple as a fuse, or moisture in the trunk could have damaged the pump in the spare tire well since it's leaking. Check fuse first, if not, see if you are getting power to the pump. If so, its the pump, if not, probably the switch in the door. Third: AC doesn't work which isn't too big of a worry yet. The ACC does work with good heat and defrost when needed. Fourth: The panel above the rear window that houses the interior light is sagging in the center although it's secure on both ends. Could it be missing a clip that keeps the center in place? It could be, you would just have to check. I thought that $1300 was a good deal for a very good running and very presentable deily driver. I'm sure I'll have other questions as I become more familiar with the W126 chassis, my first turbo diesel Mercedes! Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1983 300SD 284K miles, waiting for a name ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD; showroom car
When they were brand new with warranty they could be had for that much. kevin kraly wrote: It's nice to have one that's in good working order for $1300. However, I couldn't see (no pun intended) paying more than $34K for a 23 year old brand new car although nothing made today is as easy to work on. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1983 300SD 284K miles, Johanna ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Am I wasting money on glow plugs?
ned kleinhenz wrote: Most of the glow plug threads seem to involve a lot of discussion about isolating a bad glow plug to replace it. When I have glow plug problems, I always start by sending Rusty $60+/- for a whole new set, then installing them. This is because I only have to replace them once every few years and many 10's of 1000's miles. In more than 20 years of driving MB diesels, I have never had a random failure of a young glow plug. Is that common occurance, and I'm just lucky not to experience it? Or do most glow plugs last almost forever, and all I should really need to replace is one or two that go bad? I'm always ready to learn a better way. If the engine is running well, glow plug problems with older (pre 1990) engines seldom occur before the engine has 100kmi and many lasted closer to 200kmi. As post start glow was implemented however, glow plug on time increased so the life of the plugs (measured in miles driven) decreased as the duration of glow plug on time increased. For a mid '90s or later Mercedes diesel car, largely only driven in city cycle to and from work and a few shopping trips a week, the glow plug life might only be 40-60kmi while one that was driven more than 100 miles for every cold start might get 150,000 or more miles before the glow plugs began to fail (providing poor idle problems were addressed promptly). Glow plug life is largely a function of how long the plugs are energized for each start. In the older engines the AVERAGE time the plugs were energized seldom exceeded 10-20 second while with the newer engines that time may be extended by a factor of 10! Even with much more durable plugs, the life of the plugs is MANY fewer miles. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] OT Carfax please
BiL and I had been hunting last weekend for modern firearms and came up goose egg. I'm always looking for those too! :-) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 350sdl tensioner
I have presented this issue on several lists and have received a lot of different point of view, all which are valuable. The issue is the failure of the serpentine belt tensioner. Several individuals have indicated that they have encountered failures around 20,000 with no other cause. Others have indicated that the cause is either a loose bolt or perhaps another pulley not in proper position. Another view was that the tensioner is of poor design and is very intolerant of other forces. I believe that all of the above is true. First, I found that there can be potential problems with all of the associated pulleys (water pump, alternator, power steering and a/c). To reduce the stress and potential vibration these have to be checked for proper alignment : they must be inline with the driveshaft pulley. Next they must each be checked with a dial indicator for trueness. Such an indictor should have a range of not more .2 mm ( my view). Pulleys, when mounted on the shaft can be be out of round by .2 mm or more. This can be minimized by removing the pulley and checking the shaft, noting the high point,the low point and then mounting the pulley and rotating it on the shaft so that you get the pulley's low point over the shafts high point. I really don't know if any of this has any real effect on the failure but at least you have minimized the potential for damage. Any other views ? Constantine
Re: [MBZ] Rack Damper Bolt
I just replaced a pump on my '83 300TD. The bolt is adjusted all the all and the car still shudders horribly at idle. When you tough the accellerator, the problem stops. (I drove the car like this to Orlando and back last winter with this problem from Columbus, GA) It's a very annoying problem but the IP itself should not fail as I was told. My old IP was completely adjusted out. The IP needed a rebuild- as I was told by two sources. A replacement bolt was not an option. The IP had 265K miles on it. I had just bought the car and had put about 3k miles on it myself. On Ebay- there are used IP's, rebuilt IP's and even a training video on how to replace the IP for the 123 style benz. I found a bosch rebuilt IP on ebay for $200 and paid a dealership $300 something to put it on for me. The dealership mechanic said that the IP price through MB is pretty steep. About $1200 just for the rebuilt pump. My benz is running alot better now! I hope this helps... Thanks and good luck, Michael (the bolt is in the rear of the pump- look it up in a shop book for the car) Nobody loves me like my mother, and she could be jivin' too. - B. B. King
Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern - now added poor service
service. This is fairly typical of certainly motor car service in South Africa where one has to micromanage all service providers activities. IS the same typical elsewhere? How is it in the US? As automobiles transition towards being appliances, like large toasters, I expect more and more of this. The 'dirty ashtray' replacement days are a-comin'! Not fast, I pray. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Rack Damper Bolt
So you didnt try replacing the old style bolt with the new? Thats the problem 99.9% of the time. Michael wrote: I just replaced a pump on my '83 300TD. The bolt is adjusted all the all and the car still shudders horribly at idle. When you tough the accellerator, the problem stops. (I drove the car like this to Orlando and back last winter with this problem from Columbus, GA) It's a very annoying problem but the IP itself should not fail as I was told. My old IP was completely adjusted out. The IP needed a rebuild- as I was told by two sources. A replacement bolt was not an option. The IP had 265K miles on it. I had just bought the car and had put about 3k miles on it myself. On Ebay- there are used IP's, rebuilt IP's and even a training video on how to replace the IP for the 123 style benz. I found a bosch rebuilt IP on ebay for $200 and paid a dealership $300 something to put it on for me. The dealership mechanic said that the IP price through MB is pretty steep. About $1200 just for the rebuilt pump. My benz is running alot better now! I hope this helps... Thanks and good luck, Michael (the bolt is in the rear of the pump- look it up in a shop book for the car) Nobody loves me like my mother, and she could be jivin' too. - B. B. King ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I found one!
it needs working power seat mechanisms. Right now, The driver's seat is stuck all the way back which is great only for someone with very long legs! The motor runs, but the seat doesn't go anywhere. Also, the power seat The bowden cables can pull out of their sockets. Some BFH and plier work can sometimes bring them back, or so I'm told. Hasn't really happened to me yet, but we only have power seats in the SDL and it's been pretty good to us so far. switch knobs are missing leaving only little pieces to grab onto, not too functional. Does this require a new switch? If so, does the whole door panel need to be removed to do the job? There are posts sticking out that the knobs snap onto. If the posts are broken off, then yes, you will need a new switch. Some are soldered in, some have connectors. Again, I have no specific knowledge. Second: the central locking system doesn't work. I know that it could be as simple as a fuse, or moisture in the trunk could have damaged the pump in the spare tire well since it's leaking. Or as simple as it having gotten confused. A power cycle will sometimes bring them back, you can do that with the fuse. Third: AC doesn't work which isn't too big of a worry yet. The ACC does work with good heat and defrost when needed. Should be a good DIY candidate. It uses the R4 compressor, does it not? Fourth: The panel above the rear window that houses the interior light is sagging in the center although it's secure on both ends. Could it be missing a clip that keeps the center in place? Never had ours apart there, but ham-handed mechanics can snap off plastic retaining ears. You'll need to pull the light, maybe you can see what is wrong there, and/or come up with a fix. In the worst case you'd need a new panel. Congratulations! Where do I get in on the pool for how long you'll keep this one? :-) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] I found one!
if the pump isn't running at all remove it and apply voltage directly. try reverse polarity as well. If it runs you need to plug the outlet wqith you Ack! Don't do this, there's electronics in there that will _not_ appreciate this treatment. First ascertain which style of pump you have, the one that only works from the driver's door or the one that works from any keylock. The one has only a 3-pin round connector (and is a steaming POS), and the other also has a 2-pin rectangular connector. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato
Computer-controlled clutches of some kind inside the center differential, making the front/rear torque allotment variable. I didn't see anything like a third spider gear set. Maybe just a slip clutch, but it wasn't screamingly obvious to me, who can't read German except Was ist los, Aki? and the like. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Am I wasting money on glow plugs?
it? Or do most glow plugs last almost forever, and all I should really need to replace is one or two that go bad? IMHO that's certainly true of the series plugs. (The wiring to them is a different story.) The parallel plugs definitely are more of a wear item. Which replacement approach (batch or on-demand) makes the most sense depends on the car, if you ask me. And on your tolerance for tinkering. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Am I wasting money on glow plugs?
Now, I still need to isolate the problem. Next, I'll remove the Intake Manufold to gain access to the GP's but I'm still needing to ID which GP has a problem. At Jim's suggestion I've been looking for a meter that will read the DC Current draw but Sears was out of them. I don't think you need to pull the manifold until/unless you find that you need to. All the diagnosis (except for seeing if the plug ends glow orange) can be done right at the relay. And bad heating characteristics won't affect the GP light, your primary symptom right now, only how well it starts. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt, if he has one?
What are the warning signs of a bad/dieing Rack Damper Bolt? If I have one, need to know how to tell if it's bad. Man! This is getting complicated! I always thought it was a loping idle. Or, if too tight, weird starting characteristics. (Due to the rack not moving to where it ought.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Rack Damper Bolt
No, I did not try what you are suggesting. I was told that with some pumps the replacement bolt simply won't work, that it was a waste of time to even try given the high mileage of the engine. Then, when the MB dealer mech. had the pump out of the car- he showed me how all the adjustment was already taken up with the bolt currently in the pump. He said the pump was not adjustable and therefore had to either be rebuilt or replaced. Both of my sources are MB repair shops, one an independent, reputable MB shop in Savannah, GA. The second source is the MB dealership for Columbus, Ga. Thanks, Michael -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 16, 2006 11:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rack Damper Bolt So you didnt try replacing the old style bolt with the new? Thats the problem 99.9% of the time. Michael wrote: I just replaced a pump on my '83 300TD. The bolt is adjusted all the all and the car still shudders horribly at idle. When you tough the accellerator, the problem stops. (I drove the car like this to Orlando and back last winter with this problem from Columbus, GA) It's a very annoying problem but the IP itself should not fail as I was told. My old IP was completely adjusted out. The IP needed a rebuild- as I was told by two sources. A replacement bolt was not an option. The IP had 265K miles on it. I had just bought the car and had put about 3k miles on it myself. On Ebay- there are used IP's, rebuilt IP's and even a training video on how to replace the IP for the 123 style benz. I found a bosch rebuilt IP on ebay for $200 and paid a dealership $300 something to put it on for me. The dealership mechanic said that the IP price through MB is pretty steep. About $1200 just for the rebuilt pump. My benz is running alot better now! I hope this helps... Thanks and good luck, Michael (the bolt is in the rear of the pump- look it up in a shop book for the car) Nobody loves me like my mother, and she could be jivin' too. - B. B. King ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Nobody loves me like my mother, and she could be jivin' too. - B. B. King
Re: [MBZ] Rack Damper Bolt
Hate to tell you, but you got taken advantage of. Yes, all the adjustment will be taken up with the old bolt, that is why you get the new bolt. It doesnt have to be adjusted in as far because it has a heavier spring. THats the problem with the old bolt, the spring is not as heavy and it has to be adjusted in all the way. Michael wrote: No, I did not try what you are suggesting. I was told that with some pumps the replacement bolt simply won't work, that it was a waste of time to even try given the high mileage of the engine. Then, when the MB dealer mech. had the pump out of the car- he showed me how all the adjustment was already taken up with the bolt currently in the pump. He said the pump was not adjustable and therefore had to either be rebuilt or replaced. Both of my sources are MB repair shops, one an independent, reputable MB shop in Savannah, GA. The second source is the MB dealership for Columbus, Ga. Thanks, Michael -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 16, 2006 11:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rack Damper Bolt So you didnt try replacing the old style bolt with the new? Thats the problem 99.9% of the time. Michael wrote: I just replaced a pump on my '83 300TD. The bolt is adjusted all the all and the car still shudders horribly at idle. When you tough the accellerator, the problem stops. (I drove the car like this to Orlando and back last winter with this problem from Columbus, GA) It's a very annoying problem but the IP itself should not fail as I was told. My old IP was completely adjusted out. The IP needed a rebuild- as I was told by two sources. A replacement bolt was not an option. The IP had 265K miles on it. I had just bought the car and had put about 3k miles on it myself. On Ebay- there are used IP's, rebuilt IP's and even a training video on how to replace the IP for the 123 style benz. I found a bosch rebuilt IP on ebay for $200 and paid a dealership $300 something to put it on for me. The dealership mechanic said that the IP price through MB is pretty steep. About $1200 just for the rebuilt pump. My benz is running alot better now! I hope this helps... Thanks and good luck, Michael (the bolt is in the rear of the pump- look it up in a shop book for the car) Nobody loves me like my mother, and she could be jivin' too. - B. B. King ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Nobody loves me like my mother, and she could be jivin' too. - B. B. King ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Rack Damper Bolt
Well thank you for your candor. I'm happy with what I have and where I'm at now with the Benz. My car is my daily driver and I'm satisfied that it's ready to take me anywhere I need to go. -Michael -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 16, 2006 11:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rack Damper Bolt Hate to tell you, but you got taken advantage of. Yes, all the adjustment will be taken up with the old bolt, that is why you get the new bolt. It doesnt have to be adjusted in as far because it has a heavier spring. THats the problem with the old bolt, the spring is not as heavy and it has to be adjusted in all the way. Michael wrote: No, I did not try what you are suggesting. I was told that with some pumps the replacement bolt simply won't work, that it was a waste of time to even try given the high mileage of the engine. Then, when the MB dealer mech. had the pump out of the car- he showed me how all the adjustment was already taken up with the bolt currently in the pump. He said the pump was not adjustable and therefore had to either be rebuilt or replaced. Both of my sources are MB repair shops, one an independent, reputable MB shop in Savannah, GA. The second source is the MB dealership for Columbus, Ga. Thanks, Michael -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 16, 2006 11:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rack Damper Bolt So you didnt try replacing the old style bolt with the new? Thats the problem 99.9% of the time. Michael wrote: I just replaced a pump on my '83 300TD. The bolt is adjusted all the all and the car still shudders horribly at idle. When you tough the accellerator, the problem stops. (I drove the car like this to Orlando and back last winter with this problem from Columbus, GA) It's a very annoying problem but the IP itself should not fail as I was told. My old IP was completely adjusted out. The IP needed a rebuild- as I was told by two sources. A replacement bolt was not an option. The IP had 265K miles on it. I had just bought the car and had put about 3k miles on it myself. On Ebay- there are used IP's, rebuilt IP's and even a training video on how to replace the IP for the 123 style benz. I found a bosch rebuilt IP on ebay for $200 and paid a dealership $300 something to put it on for me. The dealership mechanic said that the IP price through MB is pretty steep. About $1200 just for the rebuilt pump. My benz is running alot better now! I hope this helps... Thanks and good luck, Michael (the bolt is in the rear of the pump- look it up in a shop book for the car) Nobody loves me like my mother, and she could be jivin' too. - B. B. King ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Nobody loves me like my mother, and she could be jivin' too. - B. B. King ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Nobody loves me like my mother, and she could be jivin' too. - B. B. King
Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern
Peter Merle wrote: On my W123 the front tyres , both are exhibiting a strange wear pattern where the outer blocks have a kind of saw-tooth pattern. Had alignment checked and rotated tyres and now the previouslyly rear tyres are doing the same thing. Shocks are new Bilsteins. Ball joints and arms are all new. Any ideas Peter The more complex patterns of wear described probably results from several defects combined. That may include worn front wheel bearings, worn shocks, worn ball joints, failure to align using the spreader bar, and other parts wear (drag link, tie rods and other bushings and joints) even though each of the wear amounts is within allowable tolerance. It is NOT possible to completely correct for not using a spreader bar by adding or subtracting a fixed setting. That's why the spreader bar is necessary - to remove all traces of TOLERABLE wear (but all of the joints must be within the allowable tolerance). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt, if he has one?
Jim Cathey wrote: What are the warning signs of a bad/dieing Rack Damper Bolt? If I have one, need to know how to tell if it's bad. Man! This is getting complicated! I always thought it was a loping idle. Or, if too tight, weird starting characteristics. (Due to the rack not moving to where it ought.) CORRECT! Attached is picture of old (bottom, silver colored) and new (top, gold colored) rack damper screw. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] inline: 61795RackDamp.JPG
[MBZ] Apologies to Kaleb
Back in August I asked some questions about GM diesel trucks and then followed up as I never saw the question on the forum. I have just discovered that my computer had shunted some of these messages off to another folder. Kaleb, at one point, says, I have answered this question 3 times already.. Sorry about that, I just read it yesterday. In any event, I didn't buy the diesel. I ended up with an 02 F150 Supercrew - not because I didn't want the diesel but because I really wanted more passenger space. I did not really need or want an F250 or bigger so I bought the gasser. So far, I really like the truck so it was probably the right decision for me. I have a very short commute and did not think that I would be very good to a diesel in the winter months anyway. Randy
Re: [MBZ] Apologies to Kaleb
hahaha, mystery solved!!! R A Bennell wrote: Back in August I asked some questions about GM diesel trucks and then followed up as I never saw the question on the forum. I have just discovered that my computer had shunted some of these messages off to another folder. Kaleb, at one point, says, I have answered this question 3 times already.. Sorry about that, I just read it yesterday. In any event, I didn't buy the diesel. I ended up with an 02 F150 Supercrew - not because I didn't want the diesel but because I really wanted more passenger space. I did not really need or want an F250 or bigger so I bought the gasser. So far, I really like the truck so it was probably the right decision for me. I have a very short commute and did not think that I would be very good to a diesel in the winter months anyway. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Apologies to Kaleb
Yes, the wonders of Microsoft Outlook. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Apologies to Kaleb hahaha, mystery solved!!! R A Bennell wrote: Back in August I asked some questions about GM diesel trucks and then followed up as I never saw the question on the forum. I have just discovered that my computer had shunted some of these messages off to another folder. Kaleb, at one point, says, I have answered this question 3 times already.. Sorry about that, I just read it yesterday. In any event, I didn't buy the diesel. I ended up with an 02 F150 Supercrew - not because I didn't want the diesel but because I really wanted more passenger space. I did not really need or want an F250 or bigger so I bought the gasser. So far, I really like the truck so it was probably the right decision for me. I have a very short commute and did not think that I would be very good to a diesel in the winter months anyway. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato
If I understand it correctly, the transfer of power to the front wheels is operated through the ASR system, which may be the same as found on 2wd vehicles. I suspect that if the rear wheels begin to slip, the computer sends hydraulic pressure to bear on the semi-locking rear diff and the transfer case actuator. Dunno for sure. On 11/16/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Computer-controlled clutches of some kind inside the center differential, making the front/rear torque allotment variable. I didn't see anything like a third spider gear set. Maybe just a slip clutch, but it wasn't screamingly obvious to me, who can't read German except Was ist los, Aki? and the like. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane injection #22 (219k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
[MBZ] Thermostat and power steering leak
When I left work last night, my power steering was howling as I left the parking garage. (Car is a 1990 300SEL) Luckily, I had flushed and filled the PS several months ago and still had left over fluid in my trunk. I checked it and it was very low - almost down to the filter (without the engine running). I filled it up and the noise when away. My question is where is the leak. I looked (quickly) in the darkness last night and couldn't see anything. Is there a common place to look? 2nd issue - Some of you may recall that I was complaining about not having any heat (or at least it was rare and intermittent). While I was filling the power steering fluid I felt the upper and lower radiator hose. The upper hose was warm, but the lower hose (i.e. after the Thermostat) was COLD. Does this mean that my thermostat is bad or is it just a sign that I had not driven far enough to get the thermostat to open. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL ~135K
[MBZ] Deperately need HELP-Woodward/Fargo, OK
This is a bit off topic, and I have not posted anything on here for some time, but I have run into a jam in West OK-purchased an old truck on ebay, and am having a LOT of trouble getting things straight with the seller. If there is ANYONE close enough to this area to run an errand for me, get some info for me, recommend a towing service, storage place and tire shop, etc, I would greatly appreciate it, and possibly compenatse someone if it was out of their way and very inconvenient! Thanks! If anyone could do this, please let me know ASAP-my trip to a family wedding pretty much depends on it at this point! Thanks! Michael _ View Athletes Collections with Live Search http://sportmaps.live.com/index.html?source=hmemailtaglinenov06FORM=MGAC01
Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato
I knew there was a reason I kept subscribing to the digest. Nice find! Tim 1982 300TD Moby (for sale) 1991 300TE 4Matic Beulah - Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:56:45 -0800 From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] These are pretty cool, eh? http://www2.lut.fi/~holtta/mb/4matic/
Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato
Does anybody know of another resource the accurately explains the operation of the older 4Matic? I've found this one, but it's only a short writeup preceding a detailed explanation of the newer 4Matic system. http://www.whnet.com/4x4/ets.html Tim 1982 300TD Moby (for sale) 1991 300TE 4Matic Beulah -- Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:49:53 -0800 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer-controlled clutches of some kind inside the center differential, making the front/rear torque allotment variable. As Craig points out, this is a far more complicated AWD approach than the ones used at the time by Audi (a simple open differential with manual either-or lockup) and BMW (a heat-sensitive viscous clutch like the ones used on our engine fans).
Re: [MBZ] OT Carfax please
I'd like to find a Marlin lever action chambered for 308. This year we have one week we can shoot bambi (freeloading overgrown rats) with a rifle! At 10:13 AM 11/16/2006, you wrote: BiL and I had been hunting last weekend for modern firearms and came up goose egg. I'm always looking for those too! :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Apologies to Kaleb
Yeah, the fifth word pretty much isolates the problem At 11:15 AM 11/16/2006, you wrote: Yes, the wonders of Microsoft Outlook. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Apologies to Kaleb hahaha, mystery solved!!! R A Bennell wrote: Back in August I asked some questions about GM diesel trucks and then followed up as I never saw the question on the forum. I have just discovered that my computer had shunted some of these messages off to another folder. Kaleb, at one point, says, I have answered this question 3 times already.. Sorry about that, I just read it yesterday. In any event, I didn't buy the diesel. I ended up with an 02 F150 Supercrew - not because I didn't want the diesel but because I really wanted more passenger space. I did not really need or want an F250 or bigger so I bought the gasser. So far, I really like the truck so it was probably the right decision for me. I have a very short commute and did not think that I would be very good to a diesel in the winter months anyway. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350sdl tensioner
Constantine N. Polites wrote: I have presented this issue on several lists and have received a lot of different point of view, all which are valuable. The issue is the failure of the serpentine belt tensioner. Several individuals have indicated that they have encountered failures around 20,000 with no other cause. Others have indicated that the cause is either a loose bolt or perhaps another pulley not in proper position. Another view was that the tensioner is of poor design and is very intolerant of other forces. I believe that all of the above is true. First, I found that there can be potential problems with all of the associated pulleys (water pump, alternator, power steering and a/c). To reduce the stress and potential vibration these have to be checked for proper alignment : they must be inline with the driveshaft pulley. Next they must each be checked with a dial indicator for trueness. Such an indictor should have a range of not more .2 mm ( my view). Pulleys, when mounted on the shaft can be be out of round by .2 mm or more. This can be minimized by removing the pulley and checking the shaft, noting the high point,the low point and then mounting the pulley and rotating it on the shaft so that you get the pulley's low point over the shafts high point. I really don't know if any of this has any real effect on the failure but at least you have minimized the potential for damage. Any other views ? I have found that once the original tensioners were replaced (the originals up thru mid '80s were of a very inferior design - those manufactured in '86-'87 were MUCH better) the factory replacement tensioners, idlers and shocks (aftermarket parts VERY greatly in quality - especially the shock absorbers) lasted at least 100kmi and many lasted much longer - UNLESS factors resulting in less than true/smooth belt travel were not promptly repaired. If the belt did not travel smoothly at all speeds, then wear on all of the parts of the tensioner system accelerated. I've never found it necessary to measure anything beyond looking at the system while the engine runs. Nothing should jitter and the belt should be aligned (look down on the belt - the belt and the idler must be aligned - more than a degree error and the pulley or lever bearing are usually bad) all of the pulleys must be in the same plane, the lever must not jitter up and down and there should be NO squeaking or chirping noises from the belt/pulley interfaces. If the power steering or water pump or the alternator or the compressor clutch bearings begin to bind they MUST be serviced promptly before the tensioner bearings are damaged. Many of the '86 thru 89 OM60x engines have had the tensioners last 300-400kmi without maintenance other than replacing the idler and shock. The earlier timing cover (into which the tensioner screwed) was less than robust and could be distorted when tightening the tensioner or if the tensioner loosened and was allowed to run that way very long. Once distorted, the timing cover and tensioner were very likely to fail. I have NOT had this happen to any of my engines, but it is a known weakness and Mercedes redesigned and strengthened the timing cover - I have NO idea when the revised cover was introduced, but it was after model year 1987 for the OM603 engine. Dave M. had the timing cover on one of his OM603.96s crack. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Thermostat and power steering leak
Donald Snook wrote: When I left work last night, my power steering was howling as I left the parking garage. (Car is a 1990 300SEL) Luckily, I had flushed and filled the PS several months ago and still had left over fluid in my trunk. I checked it and it was very low - almost down to the filter (without the engine running). I filled it up and the noise when away. My question is where is the leak. I looked (quickly) in the darkness last night and couldn't see anything. Is there a common place to look? 2nd issue - Some of you may recall that I was complaining about not having any heat (or at least it was rare and intermittent). While I was filling the power steering fluid I felt the upper and lower radiator hose. The upper hose was warm, but the lower hose (i.e. after the Thermostat) was COLD. Does this mean that my thermostat is bad or is it just a sign that I had not driven far enough to get the thermostat to open. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL ~135K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Most common leak in a 15+ year old car is the return hose leaking (cheap fix), but there are many possibilities including the pump front seals and steering box seals. Clean the engine compartment well and refill the reservoir. The look for leaks before starting and right after shutting off the car until you locate the leak. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Am I wasting money on glow plugs?
Jim Cathey wrote: it? Or do most glow plugs last almost forever, and all I should really need to replace is one or two that go bad? IMHO that's certainly true of the series plugs. (The wiring to them is a different story.) The parallel plugs definitely are more of a wear item. Which replacement approach (batch or on-demand) makes the most sense depends on the car, if you ask me. And on your tolerance for tinkering. -- Jim When getting at the plugs was trivial (in most mid '80s and earlier Mercedes diesels) I replaced them as they failed. While rather rare, it IS possible for factors other than age to cause premature glow plug failures (but these other causes usually had symptoms that should have been VERY evident well before any plugs failed). See http://www.beru.com/download/produkte/TI04_e.pdf As the job of changing plugs became more involved (starting with the OM60x.96 turbo engines and getting more complicated with each newer engine) I started recommending that they all be changed at one time UNLESS one failed truly prematurely (with less than 80-100kmi of service for plugs NOT subjected to afterstart glow). If one plug fails repeatedly, there is almost always something wrong with the fuel injection or combustion in the associated prechamber. If plugs prematurely fail randomly, the cause is usually that the plugs are being energized with the engine running or power doesn't shut off when it should - clearly a relay/controller problem. Please use ONLY Beru or Bosch plugs! Do NOT use standard plugs if you want to introduce afterstart glow function. They will fail rather soon as they were NOT designed for the increased glow duration. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Rack Damper Bolt
Michael wrote: I just replaced a pump on my '83 300TD. The bolt is adjusted all the all and the car still shudders horribly at idle. When you tough the accellerator, the problem stops. (I drove the car like this to Orlando and back last winter with this problem from Columbus, GA) It's a very annoying problem but the IP itself should not fail as I was told. My old IP was completely adjusted out. The IP needed a rebuild- as I was told by two sources. A replacement bolt was not an option. The IP had 265K miles on it. I had just bought the car and had put about 3k miles on it myself. On Ebay- there are used IP's, rebuilt IP's and even a training video on how to replace the IP for the 123 style benz. I found a bosch rebuilt IP on ebay for $200 and paid a dealership $300 something to put it on for me. The dealership mechanic said that the IP price through MB is pretty steep. About $1200 just for the rebuilt pump. My benz is running alot better now! I hope this helps... Thanks and good luck, Michael (the bolt is in the rear of the pump- look it up in a shop book for the car) Nobody loves me like my mother, and she could be jivin' too. - B. B. King The rack damper ONLY damps the lope that is caused by the natural resonance that exists in the OM617.95 injection pump. It does NOT reduce any other cause of engine roughness. Old style (silver) rack damper screws may NOT damp the lope even when tightened all the way in!! That's why the revised (gold) rack damper screws were designed! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] 115 chassis 220D
Tom Hargrave wrote: Now, with all of this talk about 115 bodies, I kind of miss my 220D 240Ds. They were great cars. Someone please stop me before I buy another Til you have to replace the heater blower motor! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D No Glow?
ernest breakfield wrote: Marshall, this document specifies '81-'84; was there something different about '85s, or does this document pre-date '85s? cheers! e Marshall Booth wrote: ned kleinhenz wrote: Situation: Son's '85 300D glow plug light does not come on. Outside temp is below 40F and car will not start. The 80A fuse in the GP control box is OK. I suspect it needs new glow plugs. But please help confirm my diagnosis is probably correct. Two questions: If my memory serves me correctly - If the GP light does not come on, the following are the potential causes by priority: 1. Blown fuse. 2. At least one bad glow plug 3. GP control system is faulty 4. GP light is burned out. Is this correct? I expect this car probably has the newer parallel glow plug configuration, so I'm not sure how the controller behaves. Other question - if the glow plug light does not come on, does that mean the glow plug circuit is not activating? In other words, will one or more bad glow plugs prevent the entire glow plug cycle from happening? This attachment is appropriate for ALL of the 617.95 engines. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Name: glow8184s.pdf glow8184s.pdfType: Acrobat (application/pdf) Encoding: base64 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com The pages I sent were published in '84. They're actually good for all of the diesels thru 1987 EXCEPT the mid model year '87 190D 2.5 turbos (that had a different controller without any fuse). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] 4-Matic schematics...neato
Jim Cathey wrote: These are pretty cool, eh? http://www2.lut.fi/~holtta/mb/4matic/ Yes indeedy. Wonder which item is there to provide the front/rear slip? It wasn't completely obvious to me, but no doubt it has to be there. The page implied that there were 300D/300TD cars available with 4-matic. If there were (here in the US), there'd be at least two of them on our hillside alone. No 4-matic diesels were officially imported to the US. They were fairly common in Europe. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD; showroom car
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When they were brand new with warranty they could be had for that much. Yeah, but when they were brand new you could go down to Jackie Cooper and buy one in that condition in any color you wanted. Nowadays there are perhaps only twenty left in the whole world in that condition. The market for mint 300SDs has shrunk since then, but not as much as the pool of available cars. Whether or not it is worth $35 is for the shill bidders to decide, but I can easily see how this could be worth as much as a new C-Class. Ncie dore panls, to. I hvae drems aboot droor panls lik that. Tom
Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD; showroom car
Ya, and up here in West Coast Canada, 300CDs are going for 10K in the paper at the moment, 250K miles... Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: pool of available cars. Whether or not it is worth $35 is for the shill bidders to decide, but I can easily see how this could be worth as much as a new C-Class. John 1983 300TDt 372k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 180k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 184k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
Re: [MBZ] Rack Damper Bolt
Marshall wrote:rack damper ONLY damps the lope that is caused by the natural resonance that exists in the OM617.95 injection pump Since I have a 602.962 I can assume the Rack Damper Bolt adjustment does me no good? So, with Electronic Idle Control on my engine - the manual tells in detail how to test the idle speed - and they show the use of an electronic test device to conduct tests. I have also read the section about adjusting the linkage but I hesitate to adjust anything because of the elctronic controls that may dominate the idle speed. Or am I reading too much into the sophistication of the Idle control? To describe the problem - when the accelerator is released and the engine speeds drops to idle often it will run slightly rough as if running too slow. If the AC is on the idle seems to drop to the lower speed. Even with the AC off, it still drops off but not as low. This started a couple of months ago. Anyway, it seems as though the electronic control would need to be checked. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . [SNIP] The rack damper ONLY damps the lope that is caused by the natural resonance that exists in the OM617.95 injection pump. It does NOT reduce any other cause of engine roughness. Old style (silver) rack damper screws may NOT damp the lope even when tightened all the way in!! That's why the revised (gold) rack damper screws were designed! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.6/535 - Release Date: 11/15/2006
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D No Glow?
Marshall, excellent; thanks for clearing that up! cheers! e ernest breakfield wrote: Marshall, this document specifies '81-'84; was there something different about '85s, or does this document pre-date '85s? cheers! e Marshall Booth wrote: ned kleinhenz wrote: Situation: Son's '85 300D glow plug light does not come on. Outside temp is below 40F and car will not start. The 80A fuse in the GP control box is OK. I suspect it needs new glow plugs. But please help confirm my diagnosis is probably correct. Two questions: If my memory serves me correctly - If the GP light does not come on, the following are the potential causes by priority: 1. Blown fuse. 2. At least one bad glow plug 3. GP control system is faulty 4. GP light is burned out. Is this correct? I expect this car probably has the newer parallel glow plug configuration, so I'm not sure how the controller behaves. Other question - if the glow plug light does not come on, does that mean the glow plug circuit is not activating? In other words, will one or more bad glow plugs prevent the entire glow plug cycle from happening? This attachment is appropriate for ALL of the 617.95 engines. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Name: glow8184s.pdf glow8184s.pdfType: Acrobat (application/pdf) Encoding: base64 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com The pages I sent were published in '84. They're actually good for all of the diesels thru 1987 EXCEPT the mid model year '87 190D 2.5 turbos (that had a different controller without any fuse). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
