[MBZ] Oil Filter Cover Post question -
Howdy - I changed the oil today and I checked the post that goes down the center of the oil filter. I checked the hole in the end and the hole near the top of the post - both seemed clear but there was a blockage about 2 up from the bottom. It seemed to be very solid. I tried to push it with a large paper clip and it wouldn't budge. I tried to blow carb cleaner thru the bottom hole and only got some seepage from the upper hole. Same using compressed air - very weak flow. 3 questions - is the post supposed to be hollow with a clear opening between both holes? What's the purpose of the holes in the post? Is this covered in the WSM? Where? Thanks - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ .
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cover Post question -
Likely this is the bleed back into the oil pan from the bypass filter. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cover Post question -
Hmmm.so, should I force the obstruction out? Or is it ok with the tube partially obstructed? Maybe it's designed like that? Thx -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cover Post question - Likely this is the bleed back into the oil pan from the bypass filter. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.22/666 - Release Date: 2/3/2007
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb or anyone, a shipping question
Just slap a label on it, I use fedex, not sure if ups will take it without a box. Harry Watkins wrote: IIRC, in a thread about shipping parts, Kaleb said he shipped with just a tag, no boxing. Was that correct and was it UPS? I know I got a Ford gas tank with only enough cardboard for addresses, also wheels and tires. Thanks for any input. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another test at Netzero's request 020207
gmail is the only email i've ever had that actually works why anyone would mess with netzero email is beyond human comprehension. the only thing crazier would be trying to make mbz.org mail work. On 2/2/07, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenn, just use the GMail account I sent you and get over it. Don On 2/2/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenn, netzero is apparantly not going to work. Glenn M. Brown wrote: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070202/a82a5bfd/attachment.pl ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cover Post question -
LarryT wrote: Howdy - I changed the oil today and I checked the post that goes down the center of the oil filter. I checked the hole in the end and the hole near the top of the post - both seemed clear but there was a blockage about 2 up from the bottom. It seemed to be very solid. I tried to push it with a large paper clip and it wouldn't budge. I tried to blow carb cleaner thru the bottom hole and only got some seepage from the upper hole. Same using compressed air - very weak flow. 3 questions - is the post supposed to be hollow with a clear opening between both holes? What's the purpose of the holes in the post? Is this covered in the WSM? Where? There is a valve that prevents flow from the bottom to the top hole. You blow the stem out by blowing in the top hole and any contained oil will come out the bottom (and stain your driveway, clothes, etc.)! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cover Post question -
LarryT wrote: Hmmm.so, should I force the obstruction out? Or is it ok with the tube partially obstructed? Maybe it's designed like that? Did you read page 6 of section 18-002 on the CD? Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
There is a 10 part series on the subject, Some scientists deny global warming exists that starts at http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=156df7e6-d490-41c9-8b1f-106fef8763c6k=0 Craig
Re: [MBZ] Will not start
If a diesel starts poorly and dies regardless of the cold - with valve adjustment in the last 10 k miles - that would seem to indicate one or two bad glow plusgs, correct? Andrew 300TD 1983 On 2/4/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: What effect will the condition of the glow plugs have on cold weather starting? Plugs that measure correctly and that aren't encased in carbon should start the car as well a new plugs. As plugs age, they will fatigue, but that is reflected in the current flow characteristics. Second only to to plug condition in inhibiting starting in cold weather are valve clearances. If one or two are tight, starting in below freezing temperatures is seriously compromised or even prevented. Finally, the fuel must flow freely. Number 2 diesel starts to cloud and flow is inhibited at just below freezing unless winterized. Finally, any water in the fuel will freeze and plug the fuel lines and plate ice onto the filter surfaces. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
It appears that perhaps the sky isn't falling... http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009625 On 2/4/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a 10 part series on the subject, Some scientists deny global warming exists that starts at http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=156df7e6-d490-41c9-8b1f-106fef8763c6k=0 Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
It was revealed recently that American Enterprise Institute offered $10,000 of Exxon-Mobil's money to any scientist who would write a paper critical of the U.N. report, back in July. I wonder how many of the people saying global warming doesn't exist have been well payed to come to that conclusion?
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cover Post question -
Thanks 18-002 explains it perfectly - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cover Post question - LarryT wrote: Hmmm.so, should I force the obstruction out? Or is it ok with the tube partially obstructed? Maybe it's designed like that? Did you read page 6 of section 18-002 on the CD? Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.22/666 - Release Date: 2/3/2007
[MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal
The following is a editorial written a few weeks ago - And, now I hear AlGore's movie has been nominated for an Academy Award - I didnt realize they had a catagory for Best Propaganda film by a former VP. Anyway - read this for some surprising alternative explanations -- Algore and Kyoto list China and India as developing nations. Let's see; China built the Great Wall about 200BC around about the time they started using a rudimentary magnetic compass and manufacturing gunpowder... Here's a most excellent summation of the flawed liturgy of the Church of Global Warming: Preaching the climate catechism Lorne Gunter National Post (Canada) Monday, January 29, 2007 On Friday, the United Nations' global warming spin factory will switch into high gear with the release of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's (IPCC) latest report. Actually, the spin will come mostly in the Summary for Policy Makers. The report itself, running to several hundred pages, will consist mostly of dry scientific papers that are usually far less definitive about the causes and effects of climate change. Expect the summary -- which is not written by scientists, but by politicians and activists -- to be highly alarmist. It will almost certainly insist that since the last report in 2001, proof of a coming man-made climate disaster has mounted and the scientific consensus has grown stronger. It will infer the only solution is a massive remaking of industrialized society presided over by international bureaucrats and environmentalists. Even the scientific papers in the IPCC report will have been doctored a bit. In past versions, scientists who have refused to swallow whole the orthodoxy that Earth is going to hell in a handbasket courtesy of SUVs, power plants and the consumer culture of the developed world have been dropped from the committees that write and review the IPCC report's individual chapters. Their doubts, no matter how substantial and well-documented -- have been expunged from the final drafts. You've no doubt heard there is an international scientific consensus that the planet is warming, that the warming will likely be catastrophic and it is being caused by human-produced emissions. The IPCC shows how this vaunted consensus is reached, not by getting all scientists to agree, but by defaming or ignoring those with opinions and research cast doubt on the dogma. That's not science, it's shunning, the ancient religious punishment for heretics. If you saw Al Gore's propaganda film, An Inconvenient Truth, you may be familiar with Naomi Oreskes, the University of California social scientist who claimed to have found 100% agreement among climate scientists. In a much-quoted article in Science magazine, Ms. Oreskes claimed that of the 928 scientific paper's whose abstracts she reviewed, not a single one disagreed with or raised objections to the man-made warming theory. Not reported though -- because it doesn't reinforce the climate catechism -- was a review of Ms. Oreskes' report by British scientist Benny Peiser. He found that Ms. Oreskes had failed to examine nearly 11,000 other climate reports that may or may not have supported her conclusion. And even among the 928 she carefully selected, only 2% wholly endorsed the view that human activity is driving global warming, while several actually opposed that conclusion, even though Ms. Oreskes claimed their support, too. Remember headlines late last year such as Greenhouse gases help make 2006 warmest year ever? What didn't get reported was the fact those doom-laden records were based on only the first 11 months of last year. When the temperatures for December were added to the mix last week, 2006 turned out to be the coolest year in the past five. But that hardly feeds the public hysteria needed to justify remaking the world's economies in the environmentalists' image. The January issue of the journal Geophysical Research Letters, contains an article by scientists at the Proudman Oceanographic Laboratory, in Liverpool concluding the rates of sea level change observed over the past 20 years were not particularly unusual. In fact the rate of sea level change was found to be larger in the early part of the [20th] century in comparison with the latter part. In the past decade, the Southern Hemisphere has warmed only half as fast as the Northern Hemisphere. Ice cover at the South Pole is expanding, rather than melting. Since 2003, the upper layer of the Atlantic has lost 25% of the extra heat it had built up in the past three decades. Worries that the Atlantic currents were slowing due to warming have been shown recently to be unfounded: For thousands of years, Atlantic currents have sped up and slowed down as they are doing now. And the broad consensus among solar scientists is that the Earth's warming is almost entirely explicable by increased solar activity that began about 100 years ago, and which will end around 2020. But don't expect any of that to
Re: [MBZ] OT: German Shepherds was battery recharge and driving with the lights on
Sammy (who I thought I was going to name Heinrich, but he's already used to Sammy and it suits his laid back temperment)...we picked him up in Tulsa this weekend. Great dog, but gets car sick...at least for now. Wagons are definitely better for dogs! Looks like Steffen-Haus has some really nice dogs. I noticed they are in Columbus, WI...are you near there? My in-laws are dairy farmers outside Lodi (near Madison) who we visit occassionally. If you're close by there, I'd love to meet you, your dog and see your cars. Chris John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 2, 2007, at 3:47 PM, Christopher McCann wrote: That Alsatian thing really bugs me. The same anti-German hysteria swept the US during WWI too. At the beginning of the war there were over 10,000 German language schools in the US. By the end of the war, I think it was 12. If it weren't for that, I (and alot of others) would probably still speak German becuase my family (mom's side) wouldn't have had to hide their ethnicity. Oh well. Oddly after my mother passed away we discovered in the paperwork that my grandmother was from Germany, completely covered up. Even today my mother's sister who's 96 wrote up the family history say her mother was from so and so (can't recall), Austria. My wife who's parent come from Germany did point out (to no avail) that the town so and so actually was in Germany... Well at least they put the town in, us younger folks can figure out reality. This of course does explain some of my odd accent at times. John 1983 300TDt 368k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 180k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) plus one german shepherd from http://www.steffen-haus.com who haunts both wagons, but NOT the sedan... Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, Anke (Yanke von der burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, Sammy (Zane von der burg Austerlitz) -1985 300SD, 219K miles, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K miles, little blue klatter box - Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 05 14:27:46 2007 Received: from odin.envisagenow.com ([12.2.42.104]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HE4os-h8-Al for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:27:46 + Received: from STREIB ([12.2.42.59]) by odin.envisagenow.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:28:14 -0500 Received: by STREIB (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:26:53 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:26:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (andrew strasfogel's message of Sun, 4 Feb 2007 23:45:51 -0500) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.19 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Feb 2007 14:28:14.0843 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF1774B0:01C74931] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Will not start X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:27:46 - andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If a diesel starts poorly and dies regardless of the cold - with valve adjustment in the last 10 k miles - that would seem to indicate one or two bad glow plusgs, correct? As a quick test, you can unplug the connector at the GP relay, and measure the resistance of each plug. It's not a perfect test, but can identify any that are completely burned out or in bad condition. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
[MBZ] Trailer Hitch
What are the prospects of finding a trailer hitch for a 1984 300TD? Tim 1982 300TD 1991 300TE 4Matic
Re: [MBZ] Will not start
Unfortunately, other than the ability to replace fuses and bulbs, I am a complete electrical dummy. I can replace glow plugs, but not test them, alas. I may plug in the block heater to see what effect that has on its ability to start w/o stalling. I On 2/5/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If a diesel starts poorly and dies regardless of the cold - with valve adjustment in the last 10 k miles - that would seem to indicate one or two bad glow plusgs, correct? As a quick test, you can unplug the connector at the GP relay, and measure the resistance of each plug. It's not a perfect test, but can identify any that are completely burned out or in bad condition. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anyone parting a W126 SE C?
My friend needs to replace the locking center console box with sliding burlwood tambor lid in his 1989 560 SE C. Anyone have one of these? Kaleb??
Re: [MBZ] Will not start
Andrew: The best way to test the glow plug is to preglow and then touch the end of the glow plug with your finger. If you scream then it is probably working. If you don't scream, the plug isn't working. The tongue is an even better indicator if you are really flexible. On 2/5/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, other than the ability to replace fuses and bulbs, I am a complete electrical dummy. I can replace glow plugs, but not test them, alas. -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 09:27:58AM -0500, TimothyPilgrim wrote: What are the prospects of finding a trailer hitch for a 1984 300TD? Better if you give up now and look for one for your TE instead. K
Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal
Well now, that sure is good news. Time to get a V12 W140 and not worry about oil reserves and all that nonsense since we can build new refineries all over the country. And I can't wait for the coal burning utility plants to make a comeback. Let's geter done! On 2/5/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is a editorial written a few weeks ago - And, now I hear AlGore's movie has been nominated for an Academy Award - I didnt realize they had a catagory for Best Propaganda film by a former VP. Anyway - read this for some surprising alternative explanations -- Algore and Kyoto list China and India as developing nations. Let's see; China built the Great Wall about 200BC around about the time they started using a rudimentary magnetic compass and manufacturing gunpowder... Here's a most excellent summation of the flawed liturgy of the Church of Global Warming: Preaching the climate catechism Lorne Gunter National Post (Canada) Monday, January 29, 2007 On Friday, the United Nations' global warming spin factory will switch into high gear with the release of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's (IPCC) latest report. Actually, the spin will come mostly in the Summary for Policy Makers. The report itself, running to several hundred pages, will consist mostly of dry scientific papers that are usually far less definitive about the causes and effects of climate change. Expect the summary -- which is not written by scientists, but by politicians and activists -- to be highly alarmist. It will almost certainly insist that since the last report in 2001, proof of a coming man-made climate disaster has mounted and the scientific consensus has grown stronger. It will infer the only solution is a massive remaking of industrialized society presided over by international bureaucrats and environmentalists. Even the scientific papers in the IPCC report will have been doctored a bit. In past versions, scientists who have refused to swallow whole the orthodoxy that Earth is going to hell in a handbasket courtesy of SUVs, power plants and the consumer culture of the developed world have been dropped from the committees that write and review the IPCC report's individual chapters. Their doubts, no matter how substantial and well-documented -- have been expunged from the final drafts. You've no doubt heard there is an international scientific consensus that the planet is warming, that the warming will likely be catastrophic and it is being caused by human-produced emissions. The IPCC shows how this vaunted consensus is reached, not by getting all scientists to agree, but by defaming or ignoring those with opinions and research cast doubt on the dogma. That's not science, it's shunning, the ancient religious punishment for heretics. If you saw Al Gore's propaganda film, An Inconvenient Truth, you may be familiar with Naomi Oreskes, the University of California social scientist who claimed to have found 100% agreement among climate scientists. In a much-quoted article in Science magazine, Ms. Oreskes claimed that of the 928 scientific paper's whose abstracts she reviewed, not a single one disagreed with or raised objections to the man-made warming theory. Not reported though -- because it doesn't reinforce the climate catechism -- was a review of Ms. Oreskes' report by British scientist Benny Peiser. He found that Ms. Oreskes had failed to examine nearly 11,000 other climate reports that may or may not have supported her conclusion. And even among the 928 she carefully selected, only 2% wholly endorsed the view that human activity is driving global warming, while several actually opposed that conclusion, even though Ms. Oreskes claimed their support, too. Remember headlines late last year such as Greenhouse gases help make 2006 warmest year ever? What didn't get reported was the fact those doom-laden records were based on only the first 11 months of last year. When the temperatures for December were added to the mix last week, 2006 turned out to be the coolest year in the past five. But that hardly feeds the public hysteria needed to justify remaking the world's economies in the environmentalists' image. The January issue of the journal Geophysical Research Letters, contains an article by scientists at the Proudman Oceanographic Laboratory, in Liverpool concluding the rates of sea level change observed over the past 20 years were not particularly unusual. In fact the rate of sea level change was found to be larger in the early part of the [20th] century in comparison with the latter part. In the past decade, the Southern Hemisphere has warmed only half as fast as the Northern Hemisphere. Ice cover at the South Pole is expanding, rather than melting. Since 2003, the upper layer of the Atlantic has lost 25% of the extra heat it had built up in the past three decades. Worries that the Atlantic currents were slowing due to warming have been shown recently to be unfounded: For thousands of
Re: [MBZ] Block heaters
I drove away once with the block heater, lube heater and battery heater all plugged in Snap!!! Regards Tom - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block heaters When I used one, I rigged up the extension cord so that when I backed up the cord pulled tight unplugged itself. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block heaters I tried mine on the Kill-a-watt and it seems to only be around 375 watts. What I'm curious about is if everyone is just popping the hood a couple times a day to plug/unplug, or if anyone's figured out a better way? I think I could fit the plug out at either the front or rear of the hood without pinching, but it would get full of snow and ice on the first ride on less than dry pavement... Levi On 2/4/07, Steve Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do the Mercedes block heaters have any sort of thermostatic control or are they always on when plugged in? Also, is there a chart of time required to heat up an engine based on outside temps? Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Will not start
Very funny. Reminds me of the old gorilla joke. A guy is making faces at a gorilla through the bars of the zoo cage. He sticks out his tongue and gets no response from gorilla. Then he bares his teeth at the gorilla. Again, no response. Then the guy pokes his left index finger in his ear. Gorilla reaches through the cage bars, grabs the guy and shakes him violently before dumping him to the ground! The guy, dazed, gets up, dusts himself off and asks a bystander What did I do wrong?. The bystander shakes his head and says Poking a finger in your left ear means F*** You! in gorilla language. The guy limps home and schemes a way to get even. Two weeks later, he's back at the gorilla cage. He makes a face at the gorilla. No response. Then he scratches his butt. Again, no response. Finally, the guy pulls a knife out of one pocket and a banana from another. Guy proceeds to slice banana in half crosswise and hands over the knife to the gorilla. Gorilla takes the knife, turns it over a few times, looks down at his midsection, and then back at the guy. Gorilla then pokes finger into his left ear. On 2/5/07, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew: The best way to test the glow plug is to preglow and then touch the end of the glow plug with your finger. If you scream then it is probably working. If you don't scream, the plug isn't working. The tongue is an even better indicator if you are really flexible. On 2/5/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, other than the ability to replace fuses and bulbs, I am a complete electrical dummy. I can replace glow plugs, but not test them, alas. -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Luckiest man in the world!
Could be, amazing thing is that I had the trans flushed more than a year ago when I towed my 190D back from NJ. So 8 quarts of ATF later and the truck is just fine. I drove it around yesterday and got the trans good and warm. Seems like it maybe shifts a little smoother than before even. Maybe it needed the cleanout... -Curt Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 07:18:18 -0500 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Luckiest man in the world! To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt Raymond wrote: Luckier actually, one of the hoses to the cooler was DISCONNECTED. Could this have been a hose that was unplugged so they flushed the tranny, and then not clamped down properly? - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 05 18:24:18 2007 Received: from web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.42]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HE8Vl-0006hD-NG for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:24:18 + Received: (qmail 88586 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Feb 2007 18:23:36 - X-YMail-OSG: GUDu1CoVM1n0xBMfCjpB6vLYs9YvSYBYdpmcYtGM5pKxiJngRJYGVw8f_4Rxx4HJ2EokOh6pY8IkWsyELFm2FngSFmznAgHSq4QqxkVrWfyE8ivwVTrhvuN6NWHZTT_smHNKLxt_LF7azUc- Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:23:36 PST Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:23:36 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block heaters X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:24:18 - Hey Levi, How old are you? Even back when I was a kid in the '80s I remember seeing cars with the plug dangling out just above the bumper... New cords come with a cap, no snow and ice. The old one on my 240D didn't have the cap but that wasn't a problem until the other end of the cord went bad... -Curt Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:07:14 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block heaters To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I tried mine on the Kill-a-watt and it seems to only be around 375 watts. What I'm curious about is if everyone is just popping the hood a couple times a day to plug/unplug, or if anyone's figured out a better way? I think I could fit the plug out at either the front or rear of the hood without pinching, but it would get full of snow and ice on the first ride on less than dry pavement... Levi - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 05 18:32:36 2007 Received: from web32813.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.43]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HE8dn-0007Cy-Ls for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:32:36 + Received: (qmail 46372 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Feb 2007 18:31:48 - X-YMail-OSG: Y8tPeXwVM1nEfEPhhZ29jhe7FzOEc67BbcsNFC7foI1TVZQXQztzzcdcSPypcAoCWW3sbVkzvNGEqLaJ66ysV5HhnjBEaMpfECSnrueR9bi7aScg8wtY0DDyQfGY5bUdivwW2UUL50dEaRM- Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32813.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:31:48 PST Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:31:48 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Will not start X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive:
Re: [MBZ] Will not start
Curt - I think that its pretty unlikely that loosening the filler cap at the tank would have any effect on starting, as there is so much fuel in the filter, pre-filter, IP, and injector lines - all of which would have to be used before any new fuel from the tank would get to the injectors. I would look first at what Marshall has stated consistently: winterized fuel; proper valve adjustment, working glow plugs. And with a valve adjustment 10k miles ago, that's 2/3 of the way to needing the next one! Actually, if the last one was done just a bit off, extreme cold weather could very well show that up, too. Werner '90D '83SD - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Will not start Actually... My 190D has been starting harder than I like. Its been cold so I attributed it to that and bought some Power Service. Zero difference... It got so I'd have to hold onto the go pedal and it'd catch but if I let off the pedal within 30 seconds it'd die. This morning I was inspired and opened the fuel cap. Instant easy start. I drive an hour each way to work. So the fuel in the tank must be getting pretty nicely warmed up. Over night it cools to -1F (or whatever) and creates some vacuum in the tank. The engine can pull hard enough to over come the vacuum and pop the vent in the cap but it doesn't like doing it when its cold... Eureka, now to deal with that vent. -Curt Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 23:45:51 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Will not start To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed If a diesel starts poorly and dies regardless of the cold - with valve adjustment in the last 10 k miles - that would seem to indicate one or two bad glow plusgs, correct? Andrew 300TD 1983
Re: [MBZ] Block heaters
We are of similar age I imagine, I'm 30. I don't see that many plugs around here, but I have seen plugs hanging out. But I KNOW how full of crud it would get around here. I suppose the answer would be to just get some sort of cover for it... Levi On 2/5/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Levi, How old are you? Even back when I was a kid in the '80s I remember seeing cars with the plug dangling out just above the bumper... New cords come with a cap, no snow and ice. The old one on my 240D didn't have the cap but that wasn't a problem until the other end of the cord went bad... -Curt Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:07:14 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block heaters To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I tried mine on the Kill-a-watt and it seems to only be around 375 watts. What I'm curious about is if everyone is just popping the hood a couple times a day to plug/unplug, or if anyone's figured out a better way? I think I could fit the plug out at either the front or rear of the hood without pinching, but it would get full of snow and ice on the first ride on less than dry pavement... Levi - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Block heaters
Levi - any decent electrical supply store should be able to sell you a cover for the plug. Usually, they are made of rubber (or similar stuff), and tied to the cord. Basically a receptacle without any metal parts and enclosed, it fits the prongs on the plug and keeps them clean and fairly dry. Werner - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block heaters We are of similar age I imagine, I'm 30. I don't see that many plugs around here, but I have seen plugs hanging out. But I KNOW how full of crud it would get around here. I suppose the answer would be to just get some sort of cover for it... Levi
Re: [MBZ] Block heaters
The block heater cord on the 1985 300CD is secured to the aux. fan with a plastic tie clamp so high up that the plug barely sticks out from under the grill. I need to open the hood to be able to grasp the plug in order to plug/unplug the heater. I am thinking of cutting the clamp to allow the cord to dangle out a bit more... On 2/5/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Levi, How old are you? Even back when I was a kid in the '80s I remember seeing cars with the plug dangling out just above the bumper... New cords come with a cap, no snow and ice. The old one on my 240D didn't have the cap but that wasn't a problem until the other end of the cord went bad... -Curt Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:07:14 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block heaters To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I tried mine on the Kill-a-watt and it seems to only be around 375 watts. What I'm curious about is if everyone is just popping the hood a couple times a day to plug/unplug, or if anyone's figured out a better way? I think I could fit the plug out at either the front or rear of the hood without pinching, but it would get full of snow and ice on the first ride on less than dry pavement... Levi - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Block heaters
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The block heater cord on the 1985 300CD is secured to the aux. fan with a plastic tie clamp so high up that the plug barely sticks out from under the grill. I need to open the hood to be able to grasp the plug in order to plug/unplug the heater. I am thinking of cutting the clamp to allow the cord to dangle out a bit more... On my 300D the block heater plug emerges from the front of the car under the right headlight area. I assumed it was that way on all of them... Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
[MBZ] Brake Theories
Hi, All. It's too cold and windy to go out and check my brakes on the 190DT, so I'll ask dumb questions in the warm. Whilst driving yesterday I heard a right rear brake scrape when nearly stopped. Looked thru the wheel, nothing. The brakes were done about 2 months ago, by me, new disks and pads and shoes from Rusty (All Hail Rusty!), so the only things that I can think of are:- Seized caliper or blocked hose or? All comments reviewed for content. TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 05 19:38:26 2007 Received: from pop-altamira.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.62]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HE9fV-0002wl-Hv for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:38:26 + Received: from user-1120f7j.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.32.60.243] helo=OFFICE) by pop-altamira.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1HE9em-ij-00 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:37:40 -0500 From: Billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 14:37:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcdJWXGXwTUTo9arT7W85dseeelTRAAAwdGw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] '81 300 CD in Jacksonville X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:38:26 - FYI - Didn't give the mileage. Any interest I could look at it and take pictures, but call him first. My nephew is a local mechanic who is familiar with MB's and works on my 300SD. He could do a once over on it if there is serious interest. BillR 1981 Mercedes Benz 300CD 1981 Mercedes Benz 300CD - Green Ext. with Beige Int.- Body in good condition - Int. needs a little work - Asking $1,500.00 Accessories: Hard Top, Power Steering, Power Windows, Cruise Control, $1,500.00 Name: David Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 904-699-3774
[MBZ] Drive shaft removal steps, 85 300TD
Thanks to Peter and others, the job was made easy. While its fresh on my mind, I'll share the steps I took. Keep in mind that this is an 85 300TD and I've no experience with other models. I have the paper manual and read the procedure before hand, however, more than one model was covered and I got a little confused. Peter's answers were not confusing and all went smoothly after his input. 1. Remove the exhaust system from the transmission to the bumper. Two bolts with nuts, ½ socket and ½ box end. Four rubber donuts, all near the bumper, I left one donut attached to hold up that end while I removed the flange connection. I used a screwdriver and a wiggle to separate the pipe. Lowered it to the floor and pushed it clear. The manual spoke of an exhaust baffle that mine did not have. I pre Kroil everything I work on but there is very little rust under this car and it probably was not needed. 2. I supported the transmission with a large piece of wood and a small floor jack, then removed the transmission rear support plate and mount. Four bolts going straight up, 11/16' socket. One nut above the rubber mount, ¾, I used a flex gear wrench. 3. Disconnect the front flex disk. I removed the three bolts (5/8 socket) and nuts (11/16' box end) that left the disk attached to the transmission. I had to rotate the drive shaft once to gain access to the third bolt. The rear wheels were on ramps with a large floor jack left under the differential. I raised the rear just enough to turn the wheels. I ended up doing this again with the rear disk, so next time I'll remove bolts front and rear, then rotate the shaft only one time to gain access. I then used a tire tool to force the shaft to the rear and clear of the transmission. 4. Remove the center bearing support bolts (two). ½ short socket with a 6 wobble extension. Both are straight up, but one side needs a little wobble to get a good fit. 5. Disconnect the parking brake equalizer mechanism. I removed the spring by inserting the tire tool in the coil as a handle and gained enough slack to remove it and the V wire anchor. Needle nose pliers were used to remove a tiny cotter key from a small pin that released the cable coming from the cab. Now there was enough slack to remove the lever and one of the brake shoe cables to let everything swing clear. 6. There is a welded plate across the shaft tunnel that keeps the shaft supported up front until you are ready to slide it out to the rear. At this point, I used bailing wire to secure the two shaft ends together so there was no chance of separation until I had it out and marked for exact rematch. 7. Remove the rear disk. Same as the front, I left the disk on the differential. I forced it forward with the tire tool, dropped it down and slid it to the rear and out. I should have left it on the shaft for easier replacement on the bench. (oh well) Hopefully there are folks that will chime in to make this easier. Harry
Re: [MBZ] '81 300 CD in Jacksonville
Hard Top Is it removable without a hacksaw??? DWS Billr wrote: FYI - Didn't give the mileage. Any interest I could look at it and take pictures, but call him first. My nephew is a local mechanic who is familiar with MB's and works on my 300SD. He could do a once over on it if there is serious interest. BillR 1981 Mercedes Benz 300CD 1981 Mercedes Benz 300CD - Green Ext. with Beige Int.- Body in good condition - Int. needs a little work - Asking $1,500.00 Accessories: Hard Top, Power Steering, Power Windows, Cruise Control, $1,500.00 Name: David Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 904-699-3774 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] RPM, alternator, battery charging
What is the relation of these three? Is it linear, non-linear? Is there a point (RPMs) over which you don't gain any more charging? I THINK if it were a generator, then the faster it goes, the more juice you get, but it's an alternator and I just don't know how these factors interplay Thanks in advance! Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, Anke (Yanke von der burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, Sammy (Zane von der burg Austerlitz) -1985 300SD, 219K miles, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K miles, little blue klatter box - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 05 20:52:59 2007 Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.48]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HEApf-0007cS-EX for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:52:59 + Received: from WFlaptop ([151.204.21.139]) by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:52:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:51:52 -0500 From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] '81 300 CD in Jacksonville X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:52:59 - Yes, Darrell - and then they will need a soft top to cover up the gaping hole when it rains. (but then again, it's in Florida, where they have enough weather phenomena that perhaps it did have a removable hard top??) Werner - Original Message - From: Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '81 300 CD in Jacksonville Hard Top Is it removable without a hacksaw??? DWS Billr wrote: FYI - Didn't give the mileage. Any interest I could look at it and take pictures, but call him first. My nephew is a local mechanic who is familiar with MB's and works on my 300SD. He could do a once over on it if there is serious interest. BillR 1981 Mercedes Benz 300CD 1981 Mercedes Benz 300CD - Green Ext. with Beige Int.- Body in good condition - Int. needs a little work - Asking $1,500.00 Accessories: Hard Top, Power Steering, Power Windows, Cruise Control, $1,500.00 Name: David Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 904-699-3774
Re: [MBZ] Block heater cord
Back in my 300D days, my heater cord came out behind the bumper and I stored it inside same. Didn't fall out and since it had a plug cover, if it had dirt would not be a factor. And if it got dirty I'd clean it. Sakes alive! RLE
Re: [MBZ] RPM, alternator, battery charging
Chris - yes, the curve isn't linear. And the limitation is field magnetic strength, current capacity of the windings, connections, and controls, and mechanical rpm limits where things begin to fly apart. But generators and alternators both generate power from a coil of wire rotating through a magnetic field, or vice versa. DC generators have another point of limitation, the commutator and brushes, which can only handle a finite amount of current for their size before heat burns them up. Alternators get around that by rotating the magnetic field, energized through slip rings, which don't have to carry nearly as much current. Usually, the regulator limits the current to protect the rectifying diodes from self destruction from heat, and that should happen before the main coils and insulation begin to fry. So in practice, you are correct - at some point, the protective circuitry should limit the output current so that it doesn't cook itself to death. Remove the regulator, and it is theoretically possible to get more current with more rpms, at the risk of ruining the alternator or what's connected to it. Werner - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: [MBZ] RPM, alternator, battery charging What is the relation of these three? Is it linear, non-linear? Is there a point (RPMs) over which you don't gain any more charging? I THINK if it were a generator, then the faster it goes, the more juice you get, but it's an alternator and I just don't know how these factors interplay Thanks in advance! Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
Re: [MBZ] RPM, alternator, battery charging
So in an 85 300SD and 82 300D...where abouts do you think/guess that RPM point is past where you don't get any more charging power? Thanks, Chris Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris - yes, the curve isn't linear. And the limitation is field magnetic strength, current capacity of the windings, connections, and controls, and mechanical rpm limits where things begin to fly apart. But generators and alternators both generate power from a coil of wire rotating through a magnetic field, or vice versa. DC generators have another point of limitation, the commutator and brushes, which can only handle a finite amount of current for their size before heat burns them up. Alternators get around that by rotating the magnetic field, energized through slip rings, which don't have to carry nearly as much current. Usually, the regulator limits the current to protect the rectifying diodes from self destruction from heat, and that should happen before the main coils and insulation begin to fry. So in practice, you are correct - at some point, the protective circuitry should limit the output current so that it doesn't cook itself to death. Remove the regulator, and it is theoretically possible to get more current with more rpms, at the risk of ruining the alternator or what's connected to it. Werner - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann To: Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: [MBZ] RPM, alternator, battery charging What is the relation of these three? Is it linear, non-linear? Is there a point (RPMs) over which you don't gain any more charging? I THINK if it were a generator, then the faster it goes, the more juice you get, but it's an alternator and I just don't know how these factors interplay Thanks in advance! Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 05 21:34:18 2007 Received: from wnpgmb02-group-smtpout.mts.net ([142.161.130.102] helo=mx-mtaout01.mts.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HEBTe-0001eI-54 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:34:18 + Received: from wnpgmb01-c600f.mts.net ([172.17.170.28]) by mx-mtaout01.mts.net with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:33:32 -0600 Received: from wnpgmb09dc1-153-35.dynamic.mts.net (HELO one) ([204.112.153.35]) by wnpgmb01-c600f.mts.net with SMTP; 05 Feb 2007 15:33:32 -0600 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AA== X-IronPort-AV: i=4.13,284,1167631200; d=scan'208; a=17921758:sNHT26368615 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:37:18 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] COLD! X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:34:18 - I am glad I don't try to run my old diesel here in the winter. It was minus 39 here last night and the high yesterday was minus 27. We have been in the deep freeze for days and it appears there is no immediate end in sight. Gas powered cars with fuel injection seem willing to start no matter what even without being plugged in. One of our F150's needed the block heater cord end replaced yesterday. My younger son Thomas commented that it had been cranking slow the last few days. I checked and it was not working at all. Cut the cord end off and put a new one on. Works now. Cord didn't look too good however so will replace the whole thing once the weather warms up - IE - I hope I remember to do it before next
Re: [MBZ] '81 300 CD in Jacksonville
Werner, I stick with the hacksaw.. DWS Werner Fehlauer wrote: Yes, Darrell - and then they will need a soft top to cover up the gaping hole when it rains. (but then again, it's in Florida, where they have enough weather phenomena that perhaps it did have a removable hard top??) Werner - Original Message - From: Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '81 300 CD in Jacksonville Hard Top Is it removable without a hacksaw??? DWS Billr wrote: FYI - Didn't give the mileage. Any interest I could look at it and take pictures, but call him first. My nephew is a local mechanic who is familiar with MB's and works on my 300SD. He could do a once over on it if there is serious interest. BillR 1981 Mercedes Benz 300CD 1981 Mercedes Benz 300CD - Green Ext. with Beige Int.- Body in good condition - Int. needs a little work - Asking $1,500.00 Accessories: Hard Top, Power Steering, Power Windows, Cruise Control, $1,500.00 Name: David Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 904-699-3774 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] COLD!
Want me to send you an ice cube come July to remind you? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 4:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] COLD! I am glad I don't try to run my old diesel here in the winter. It was minus 39 here last night and the high yesterday was minus 27. We have been in the deep freeze for days and it appears there is no immediate end in sight. Gas powered cars with fuel injection seem willing to start no matter what even without being plugged in. One of our F150's needed the block heater cord end replaced yesterday. My younger son Thomas commented that it had been cranking slow the last few days. I checked and it was not working at all. Cut the cord end off and put a new one on. Works now. Cord didn't look too good however so will replace the whole thing once the weather warms up - IE - I hope I remember to do it before next winter because of course, once it warms up, we won't need it and often then forget to do it until it is once again real cold out. Randy in Winnipeg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Theories
Hi Fred, Well, we need more explanation than brake scrape -- was it brake pad squeal? or metal to metal? If the brake pads are squealing, there's a paste available at FLAPS that may work.If metal to metal - then the caliper piston has stuck and the other pad has worn down in 2 months - which is extremely fast, especially for a rear brake - and doubtful. Perhaps some debris has become lodged in the caliper/rotor area? Need to remove the wheel and check things out - also take a good look at the pads and caliper hardware - sometimes the anti-rattle spring comes apart and can make noise. So, we need more info to help -- Sorry - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 2:19 PM Subject: [MBZ] Brake Theories Hi, All. It's too cold and windy to go out and check my brakes on the 190DT, so I'll ask dumb questions in the warm. Whilst driving yesterday I heard a right rear brake scrape when nearly stopped. Looked thru the wheel, nothing. The brakes were done about 2 months ago, by me, new disks and pads and shoes from Rusty (All Hail Rusty!), so the only things that I can think of are:- Seized caliper or blocked hose or? All comments reviewed for content. TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.25/669 - Release Date: 2/4/2007
Re: [MBZ] Will not start
Curt Raymond wrote: Actually... My 190D has been starting harder than I like. Its been cold so I attributed it to that and bought some Power Service. Zero difference... It got so I'd have to hold onto the go pedal and it'd catch but if I let off the pedal within 30 seconds it'd die. This morning I was inspired and opened the fuel cap. Instant easy start. I drive an hour each way to work. So the fuel in the tank must be getting pretty nicely warmed up. Over night it cools to -1F (or whatever) and creates some vacuum in the tank. The engine can pull hard enough to over come the vacuum and pop the vent in the cap but it doesn't like doing it when its cold... Eureka, now to deal with that vent. Check and be sure that the vacuum high idle system is working as it should. With a slight leak in vacuum, the idle will remain low and require that you hold the pedal down for the first 30-40 seconds. See 7.1-010 part D in the engine manual or the CD for description of the pneumatic idle speed control. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Brake Theories
Frederick Moir wrote: Hi, All. It's too cold and windy to go out and check my brakes on the 190DT, so I'll ask dumb questions in the warm. Whilst driving yesterday I heard a right rear brake scrape when nearly stopped. Looked thru the wheel, nothing. The brakes were done about 2 months ago, by me, new disks and pads and shoes from Rusty (All Hail Rusty!), so the only things that I can think of are:- Seized caliper or blocked hose or? All comments reviewed for content. A pad hanging because there's some ice on the caliper can do it. An emergency brake shoe can drag when cold or when the holding spring fails (fairly common). A rock or piece of ice can result in a scraping sound. So can a piece of e-brake shoe that's cracked off the backing plate. Lots of possibilities - and I've experienced them all. You'll need to determine which one by checking them one at a time. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Drive shaft removal steps, 85 300TD
Send again On 2/5/07, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to Peter and others, the job was made easy. While its fresh on my mind, I'll share the steps I took. Keep in mind that this is an 85 300TD and I've no experience with other models. I have the paper manual and read the procedure before hand, however, more than one model was covered and I got a little confused. Peter's answers were not confusing and all went smoothly after his input. 1. Remove the exhaust system from the transmission to the bumper. Two bolts with nuts, ½ socket and ½ box end. Four rubber donuts, all near the bumper, I left one donut attached to hold up that end while I removed the flange connection. I used a screwdriver and a wiggle to separate the pipe. Lowered it to the floor and pushed it clear. The manual spoke of an exhaust baffle that mine did not have. I pre Kroil everything I work on but there is very little rust under this car and it probably was not needed. 2. I supported the transmission with a large piece of wood and a small floor jack, then removed the transmission rear support plate and mount. Four bolts going straight up, 11/16' socket. One nut above the rubber mount, ¾, I used a flex gear wrench. 3. Disconnect the front flex disk. I removed the three bolts (5/8 socket) and nuts (11/16' box end) that left the disk attached to the transmission. I had to rotate the drive shaft once to gain access to the third bolt. The rear wheels were on ramps with a large floor jack left under the differential. I raised the rear just enough to turn the wheels. I ended up doing this again with the rear disk, so next time I'll remove bolts front and rear, then rotate the shaft only one time to gain access. I then used a tire tool to force the shaft to the rear and clear of the transmission. 4. Remove the center bearing support bolts (two). ½ short socket with a 6 wobble extension. Both are straight up, but one side needs a little wobble to get a good fit. 5. Disconnect the parking brake equalizer mechanism. I removed the spring by inserting the tire tool in the coil as a handle and gained enough slack to remove it and the V wire anchor. Needle nose pliers were used to remove a tiny cotter key from a small pin that released the cable coming from the cab. Now there was enough slack to remove the lever and one of the brake shoe cables to let everything swing clear. 6. There is a welded plate across the shaft tunnel that keeps the shaft supported up front until you are ready to slide it out to the rear. At this point, I used bailing wire to secure the two shaft ends together so there was no chance of separation until I had it out and marked for exact rematch. 7. Remove the rear disk. Same as the front, I left the disk on the differential. I forced it forward with the tire tool, dropped it down and slid it to the rear and out. I should have left it on the shaft for easier replacement on the bench. (oh well) Hopefully there are folks that will chime in to make this easier. Harry
Re: [MBZ] Will not start
andrew strasfogel wrote: If a diesel starts poorly and dies regardless of the cold - with valve adjustment in the last 10 k miles - that would seem to indicate one or two bad glow plusgs, correct? If the glow plug dash light comes on when you first turn on the key then at least 4 and usually 5 of the plugs are good in an OM617.95 engine (like yours) and 5 working glow plugs is all that should be needed down to near zero (F). Water or waxed fuel clogging a filter that's just a little occluded can seriously reduce starting ease. One tight valve can do it (and a valve CAN tighten up in just a few thousand miles, but usually it takes longer). A battery that really isn't up to snuff (won't deliver full power under load) will be MUCH worse when cold. Very rarely a starter motor that just won't turn as fast as it should, will inhibit or prevent below freezing starts. Defective preglow system is the most common cause of poor below freezing starts. Be SURE that the 80A fuse isn't cracked (it really needs to be replaced every 10 years). Valve adjustment comes next (a tight valve drops compression enough to prevent starting - the colder it gets the tighter the valve becomes and the lower compression drops). When temps approach zero (F) fuel or fuel/water problems become very common. Mobil 1 will usually lower the minimum start temp about 10 degrees (everything else being equal) by increasing the cranking speed (may be 25-50% faster). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Luckiest man in the world!
Werner Fehlauer wrote: Sounds like another good reason NOT to give extra $$ to a shop to flush a transmission. Other than a good profit maker for the shop, a flushing process can do more harm than good, since it can bypasses the built-in filter system, and puts a fluid of unknown quality in the system. IMO, a complete drain of trans. and torque converter, change of filter and gasket, and refill with quality fluid should suffice. There's no need to connect/disconnect lines and hoses. True for Mercedes cars, but keep in mind there are many cars out there that lack torque converter drain plugs. There is no way to completely change the fluid in those cars except by flushing it.
Re: [MBZ] COLD!
Ah, I think, come summer, I will just sit in my screened porch and drink a frosty one and reflect back in that manner. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Billr Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:45 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] COLD! Want me to send you an ice cube come July to remind you? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 4:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] COLD! I am glad I don't try to run my old diesel here in the winter. It was minus 39 here last night and the high yesterday was minus 27. We have been in the deep freeze for days and it appears there is no immediate end in sight. Gas powered cars with fuel injection seem willing to start no matter what even without being plugged in. One of our F150's needed the block heater cord end replaced yesterday. My younger son Thomas commented that it had been cranking slow the last few days. I checked and it was not working at all. Cut the cord end off and put a new one on. Works now. Cord didn't look too good however so will replace the whole thing once the weather warms up - IE - I hope I remember to do it before next winter because of course, once it warms up, we won't need it and often then forget to do it until it is once again real cold out. Randy in Winnipeg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
I'd sure like to have the globe, or even a few smaller objects warmed about now. I've had enough below zero for a winter already. Bring on the warming! At 12:24 AM 2/5/2007, you wrote: It appears that perhaps the sky isn't falling... http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009625 On 2/4/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a 10 part series on the subject, Some scientists deny global warming exists that starts at http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=156df7e6-d490-41c9-8b1f-106fef8763c6k=0 Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal
Gee, that must explain why sattelite photographs show some much less ice around both poles, eh? As I remember, the warming of the planet has not been in dispute by reputable scientists for going on 30 years now -- there are a few who insist that temperatures at 50,000 ft aren't going up much, but then I don't live there, I live here on the surface. Also not in dispute is that the carbon dioxide content of both air and ocean water is increasing at a rather high rate -- there are fairly accurate numbers going back a couple hundred years, and unless I'm mistaken, the carbon dioxide content is more than double what it was in 1900. All that carbon dioxide is from burning fossil fuels -- renewable fuels (wood and buffalo chips, mostly) get re-absorbed into plant growth, more or less, as they would have been anyway through decay of various sorts. The immense quantities of fossil fuel we are blasting through is having an equally immense impact, and no amount of jawboning is gonna change that. Yes, there have been climate changes in the past (for instance, I am quite certain that there was open ocean in the arctic during the 500s AD), but the carbon dioxide level was constant, not climbing. There are quite a few very wealthy institutions with a vested interest blowing a lot of pseudo science around about global warming, mostly so they can justify drilling and selling more oil and cars -- take a step back and use your own knoggin, the evidence is there for anyone to look at. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch
Tim, I have a light duty hitch hitch for sale. It was on my wagon which I am parting out. I can send pictures if you are interested. It mounted to the bumper and the body. Tongue weight was rated at 150lbs with a max pulling capacity of roughly 1500lbs. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch What are the prospects of finding a trailer hitch for a 1984 300TD? Tim 1982 300TD 1991 300TE 4Matic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RPM, alternator, battery charging
Probably between 1600 - 2000 rpm - typically, alternators are running twice (+/-) crankshaft rpm, so that would be 3200-4000 alternator rpm. Engineers have to step up the speed so that you get enough output so as not to run off the battery at idle, with minimal electrical loads, and yet keep top speed low enough so as not to self destruct when the engine is wound out. I seem to recall during my early days in Detroit that they were getting generators up to over 10k rpm, which led to shortened life. And 10k rpm isn't nearly as much of a problem to an alternator, so running that SD up to the limit of the IP governor won't kill the alternator (at least not before you do something bad to the engine itself!) Werner - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] RPM, alternator, battery charging So in an 85 300SD and 82 300D...where abouts do you think/guess that RPM point is past where you don't get any more charging power? Thanks, Chris Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris - yes, the curve isn't linear. And the limitation is field magnetic strength, current capacity of the windings, connections, and controls, and mechanical rpm limits where things begin to fly apart. But generators and alternators both generate power from a coil of wire rotating through a magnetic field, or vice versa. DC generators have another point of limitation, the commutator and brushes, which can only handle a finite amount of current for their size before heat burns them up. Alternators get around that by rotating the magnetic field, energized through slip rings, which don't have to carry nearly as much current. Usually, the regulator limits the current to protect the rectifying diodes from self destruction from heat, and that should happen before the main coils and insulation begin to fry. So in practice, you are correct - at some point, the protective circuitry should limit the output current so that it doesn't cook itself to death. Remove the regulator, and it is theoretically possible to get more current with more rpms, at the risk of ruining the alternator or what's connected to it. Werner
Re: [MBZ] '81 300 CD in Jacksonville
DWS - a fireman's chop saw would be quicker, but not as neat! Werner - Original Message - From: Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '81 300 CD in Jacksonville Werner, I stick with the hacksaw.. DWS Werner Fehlauer wrote: Yes, Darrell - and then they will need a soft top to cover up the gaping hole when it rains. (but then again, it's in Florida, where they have enough weather phenomena that perhaps it did have a removable hard top??) Werner - Original Message - From: Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '81 300 CD in Jacksonville Hard Top Is it removable without a hacksaw??? DWS Billr wrote: FYI - Didn't give the mileage. Any interest I could look at it and take pictures, but call him first. My nephew is a local mechanic who is familiar with MB's and works on my 300SD. He could do a once over on it if there is serious interest. BillR 1981 Mercedes Benz 300CD 1981 Mercedes Benz 300CD - Green Ext. with Beige Int.- Body in good condition - Int. needs a little work - Asking $1,500.00 Accessories: Hard Top, Power Steering, Power Windows, Cruise Control, $1,500.00 Name: David Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 904-699-3774
Re: [MBZ] Flushing transmissions (was Luckiest man in the world!)
David - another good reason to drive a Benz! Actually, I would be concerned with what the shop was using to flush the transmission system - if it was virgin fluid of the same type that is required for operation, fine - but if they are using something like a solvent or el cheapo oil, perhaps not carefully handled, then I still think that flushing can do more harm than good. After all, when you change the engine oil in an M-B, you always leave some of the old oil in the hoses and cooler system, so that there's possibly some of the original break-in oil in the engine after 200k miles, albeit an insignificant amount. Doesn't hurt the engine in practice, so my opinion is that changing filter and more than half of the transmission fluid is still safer than mixing in some unknown stuff. Werner - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Luckiest man in the world! Werner Fehlauer wrote: Sounds like another good reason NOT to give extra $$ to a shop to flush a transmission. Other than a good profit maker for the shop, a flushing process can do more harm than good, since it can bypasses the built-in filter system, and puts a fluid of unknown quality in the system. IMO, a complete drain of trans. and torque converter, change of filter and gasket, and refill with quality fluid should suffice. There's no need to connect/disconnect lines and hoses. True for Mercedes cars, but keep in mind there are many cars out there that lack torque converter drain plugs. There is no way to completely change the fluid in those cars except by flushing it.
Re: [MBZ] '81 300 CD in Jacksonville
i'm surprised you guys don't know what hardtop means? that is old guy speak for lacking a b pillar. to explain further: you notice when you roll down all the windows in your 300D, it is not all air, but there is pillar right in the middle of your view that if you thought about you'd wish would go away?. that's your B pillar and a hardtop don't have that. makes me yearn for a 70s sedan de ville. On 2/5/07, Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hard Top Is it removable without a hacksaw??? DWS Billr wrote: FYI - Didn't give the mileage. Any interest I could look at it and take pictures, but call him first. My nephew is a local mechanic who is familiar with MB's and works on my 300SD. He could do a once over on it if there is serious interest. BillR 1981 Mercedes Benz 300CD 1981 Mercedes Benz 300CD - Green Ext. with Beige Int.- Body in good condition - Int. needs a little work - Asking $1,500.00 Accessories: Hard Top, Power Steering, Power Windows, Cruise Control, $1,500.00 Name: David Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 904-699-3774 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RPM, alternator, battery charging
You won't get much power at less that 1000 rpm, in fact it won't usually charge much at less than 1500 rpm (engine, the alternator is going faster). Max output by 2500 or so, limited by the regulator. Peter
