[MBZ] Sunroof quit
I guess I'm now a member of the sunroof trouble club. I noticed after buying the 87 190D that the sunroof didn't close fully one time. So I re-opened it and closed it and it thunked shut loudly. Since then, it sort of thunked loudly when shutting but closed reliably. Tonight, it closed almost fully, but that's it. I re-opened it and tried to close it - no dice. And then it started to open and close very slowly. And now it won't move. Question: If I try to crank it shut manually in the trunk will I bolix it up? And: What is best course to fix this? I know I've heard of this official Geitpaste or however it's spelled and pronounced. But I haven't the foggiest on how to apply it, or it it's even the appropriate measure. Thanks Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Replacing Injectors(wasRe:1985300SDNastyEngineVibration)
Have you adjusted the IP rack damper? Maybe I missed this but the damper screw should also be replaced by the new (gold color) part. Way easier than the motor mounts. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Larribeau Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Replacing Injectors(wasRe:1985300SDNastyEngineVibration) The mounts are next ... However I am becoming concerned that there is something more serious about it. The trans mount bolts look somewhat shinny. I tried unloosening each injector pipe and each one makes it run weirder but don't know what is up. The vibration frequency is high enough that the motor does no look like it is bouncing around. The vibration telegraphs through the thing and the air cleaned 'buzzes'. The most concerning part is that there is a lower frequency throb to it. It is almost like a high frequency spike the is not real deep. I got under it an the tranny is not moving around, I hope it's the mounts ... George Larribeau -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 6:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Replacing Injectors(was Re:1985300SDNastyEngineVibration) Replacing the motor and transmission mounts on my 87 SDL helped the vibration at idle immensely. I was timid about jacking up the engine at the oil pan to get enough clearance to slide in the new engine mounts so I pulled out the Harbor Freight foldable shop crane. In the past, Marshall has recommended using the Mercedes Parts for mounts as the aftermarket ones don't last as long. I did not know better at the time and used the cheap ones. They are working fine for now. Next time I'll use the good ones. -Dave Walton On 9/17/07, George Larribeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Runs rough at idle extra noticeable when cold. Seems to be happier above 1100 RPM or so This RPM is a bit higher when cold. It is better after I get it on the 'Freeway' it gets up to operating temperature. The idle speed could be a tad lower that I remember but it is, it would be a hair. When it is at it worst it makes the hood noticeably vibrate and there is a low frequency shaking. Some vibration induced buzzing noises inside the car. When I open the hood it doesn't appear to be visibly vibrating all that much. Does not take much throttle to get it to clear up (under load) I have not noticed a decrease in power however, subjectively it seems a bit weaker when cold but this is hard to determine. Nothing major here. There is a ramp I take off West I636 on to N I35E that it seems to act the same on as far as power. It is a place where I need to get from 35 - 40 to 70 plus. Does not seam any different here. It doesn't appear to smoke in ant unusual way. From a drivers perspective the only noticeable smoke I ever get from it is mainly noticeable at night where the headlights of cars behind reflect it. It does not emit any thing nasty and if I don't wash it for a while there is only a slight discoloration of soot on the bumper. George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Replacing Injectors(was Re:1985300SD NastyEngineVibration) George Larribeau wrote: I replaced the injectors Saturday morning, to make a long story short it may have changed my perception of the behavior but it did not fix it. Could you refresh us on the details of the original problem? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:
Re: [MBZ] Fw:ReplacingInjectors(was Re:1985300SD NastyEngineVibration)
George - The only thing the engine mount shocks do is to minimize the shaking when the engine is shut down. You might want to test them first before you buy new ones as they rarely go bad, OTOH you can replace the mounting kits for the shocks when you replace the engine mounts. Barry The front mounts are questionable and the engine shocks don't look happy. I will order new ones tomorrow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tools for adjusting front wheel bearings
In my experience (comparing a dial gage with feel) the nut setting is right when you can just feel the slightest movement when you push/pull on the brake disk. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 11:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tools for adjusting front wheel bearings On 9/14/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found a dial indicator on eBay which has 0.0001 resolution (quite adequate for adjusting front wheel bearings :-) ) for $15. The fellow says he has 12, so I thought I'd pass the information along. http://cgi.ebay.com/dial-indicator_W0QQitemZ200146195835QQihZ010QQcategoryZ2 5272QQcmdZViewItem I've never done wheel bearings. Don't you need a hook or at least some way to attach a wire to test the preload? I can't tell from the picture whether this item has a suitable fixture. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Adjusting front wheel bearings and Chinese jackstands
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/14/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found a dial indicator on eBay which has 0.0001 resolution (quite adequate for adjusting front wheel bearings :-) ) for $15. The fellow says he has 12, so I thought I'd pass the information along. http://cgi.ebay.com/dial-indicator_W0QQitemZ200146195835QQihZ010QQcategoryZ25272QQcmdZViewItem I've never done wheel bearings. Don't you need a hook or at least some way to attach a wire to test the preload? I can't tell from the picture whether this item has a suitable fixture. You fasten the dial indicator to the brake disk hub with a magnetic base and put the tip of the indicator on the end of the spindle. Then you grab the brake disk with both hands and move it in and out. The amount of movement the dial indicator should show should be about 0.0005. [That's the gist of what the manual says, anyhow.] Craig Oh, OK, that makes sense. I get it now. So where did you get the magnetic base? Same seller? No, from a different seller. Just search eBay for dial indicator and you'll get some magnetic bases, too. I don't recall if I also searched for magnetic base. Craig ___ I bought a very nice one from Sears about ten years ago for a reasonable price that works well. Hard to say what their price is now after combining with KMart. Also, I suspect that some of the adjustable Chinese jackstands have proven unreliable. The local Autozone store has replaced them with the old pin type in a heavier duty design with four legs and a 3/8 pin. Sears and Walmart also sell the adjustables but I haven't been in those stores lately. The rachets on the ones I have, which were bought from Walmart, are very easy to engage only half way if you simply slide them under the car and rachet them up. Even though the rachet stands are very convenient, I'm using the pin type when I get under the car from now on. Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Confusing window A/C
A ten year old 6000 btu Amana Quiet Cool window A/c in the shop quit running after I had smelled hot electronics for a short while. The circuit boards, the fan motor, and the wiring don't look smoked; but the condenser is so rusty I wonder if it might be the cause of the smell. The circuit diagram is illegible from exposure to rain, etc. The fan motor has three leads so I suspected it is a typical three speed motor setup and it was confirmed on the label but the label gave no color codes for the wires. The compressor also has three leads and a (common?) lead comes in through a separate thermal switch . The part I find confusing is a big capacitor which has three leads and a rating of both 7.5 mfd and 35 mfd. From looking at the label on the blower motor, it doesn't appear to be a capacitor start or capacitor run motor, so I would guess that both the blower motor and the compressor use the capacitor simply to give them a little more amperage when they start up since they both start at once on some settings of the dial; but that's just a wild guess. If the fan motor and compressor are both good, I would like to hook them up to a household type 24v transformer, relay, thermostat arrangement and eliminate the pc boards whether they are good or not. I'm a little afraid to try 110v on the fan and compressor to see if they are good since I'm not familiar with pc board controlled appliances and they may require some sort of hookups with the capacitor. Both the fan motor and the compressor are thermally protected so it probably would be safe enough. All suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks, Gerry Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Replacing Injectors(was Re:1985300SDNastyEngineVibration)
I replaced my motor mounts and it made the motor shake worse. Maybe the new mounts were too stiff (I didn't get them from Rusty, bad mistake). The old mounts looked soft and were somewhat compressed. This is not a real hard job (harder on a turbo because of the dampers) but I did have to work to make the bolt holes line up. Maybe there is a trick but I never discovered it. I just used a piece of 2x4 to horse the motor around trying to align the holes. For sure, use a big piece of wood between the jack and the oil pan so you don't ding the pan. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 7:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Replacing Injectors(was Re:1985300SDNastyEngineVibration) Replacing the motor and transmission mounts on my 87 SDL helped the vibration at idle immensely. I was timid about jacking up the engine at the oil pan to get enough clearance to slide in the new engine mounts so I pulled out the Harbor Freight foldable shop crane. In the past, Marshall has recommended using the Mercedes Parts for mounts as the aftermarket ones don't last as long. I did not know better at the time and used the cheap ones. They are working fine for now. Next time I'll use the good ones. -Dave Walton On 9/17/07, George Larribeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Runs rough at idle extra noticeable when cold. Seems to be happier above 1100 RPM or so This RPM is a bit higher when cold. It is better after I get it on the 'Freeway' it gets up to operating temperature. The idle speed could be a tad lower that I remember but it is, it would be a hair. When it is at it worst it makes the hood noticeably vibrate and there is a low frequency shaking. Some vibration induced buzzing noises inside the car. When I open the hood it doesn't appear to be visibly vibrating all that much. Does not take much throttle to get it to clear up (under load) I have not noticed a decrease in power however, subjectively it seems a bit weaker when cold but this is hard to determine. Nothing major here. There is a ramp I take off West I636 on to N I35E that it seems to act the same on as far as power. It is a place where I need to get from 35 - 40 to 70 plus. Does not seam any different here. It doesn't appear to smoke in ant unusual way. From a drivers perspective the only noticeable smoke I ever get from it is mainly noticeable at night where the headlights of cars behind reflect it. It does not emit any thing nasty and if I don't wash it for a while there is only a slight discoloration of soot on the bumper. George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Replacing Injectors(was Re:1985300SD NastyEngineVibration) George Larribeau wrote: I replaced the injectors Saturday morning, to make a long story short it may have changed my perception of the behavior but it did not fix it. Could you refresh us on the details of the original problem? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission Toast
Rusty's Bosch reman alternators are also way good in my experience. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission Toast Rusty wrote:rebuilder pays the freight and 8 hours labor on his transmissions. Of course I have only had 3 warranties in 32 years Wow Rusty!! That's something you should really advertise! It's *very* rare to get that kind of service from rebuilt *anything* ! Should splash it across your home page! It's one of the many things that seperates you from the parts sellers of the world. You;re a real parts service provider. Take care -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions: Seat belts standard when?
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:15:16 -0500 tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Subject: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions I'm helping someone compose the Mercedes Story for children and she's got me stumped on a couple of points: When did seat belts become standard in Mercedes? 1964? And is it true that MB was the first carmaker to install them as standard equipment? (Besides Tucker, I mean.) Appreciate any insight, Tom __ I don't know about Mercedes. Seat belts became standard on Fords for production or delivery beginnning January 1, 1964, no doubt because of Federal Law. I ordered a new 1964 Ford delivered in December 1963 and had to pay extra for belts. If I had waited until after January 1, the belts would have come standard, along with snazzy plastic boots on the anchorage end of the belts. I was unable to buy the plastic boots for my belts, and had problems with the metal on the end of the belts lying sideways and getting hit by the door panel when I closed the door. Hard on door panels. If Mercedes made belts standard in 1964, it's like the 95 year old man who married the 20 yr old girl: Not because he wanted to, because he had to. Hochachtunsvoll. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tools for adjusting front wheel bearings
Scott Ritchey wrote: In my experience (comparing a dial gage with feel) the nut setting is right when you can just feel the slightest movement when you push/pull on the brake disk. That may vary. It's been a while, but I believe my minimum feel is in the range of .001 to .002. I had no problem adjusting motorcycle valves to .004-.006 and .008-.010 by feel, and then checking with a go-nogo gauge to make sure it was in range (It always was). I would not have tried do anything below .002 by feel, it would have been a waste of time instead of a time-saver. If it's a one-off job, instead of one you do daily and develop a feel for, I'd use proper measuring tools every time. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Confusing window A/C
- Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] archer wrote: All suggestions will be appreciated. I bought a Sunbeam 5000 BTU unit for $80 at Circuit City this year. I just checked, and it seems that all they have now are portable units for $300+. Is the EER on your existing unit at least 9? ___ It is. It was top-rated at Consumers Reports when I bought it. There are plenty of window units available locally at 10.xx EER and at cheap prices, but I'd rather fix this one and rig it with a remote thermostat if it's fixable. All the new ones use complex PC boards with handheld wireless controllers. When I go in the shop and turn on the main power switches, the new type Sharp A/C in the other side of the shop has to be turned on with the remote and now it has to be turned on manually because the remote went bad and Sharp wants $50! for a new one! One thing I've been curious about is the kind of compressors these newer A/Cs have. They are long, narrow compressors; much smaller than the old type. I would guess they would be rotary screw compressors on the order of the large ones in big commercial installations. The Sharp makes a very steady tone comparable to the large commercial compressors steady roar. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit
And then it started to open and close very slowly. And now it won't move. So sad. You waited a bit long it seems. Question: If I try to crank it shut manually in the trunk will I bolix it up? Possibly. No real choice, however. And: What is best course to fix this? You don't have any option but to get it partially open and then service it per the manual. Is this a popup type? Better hope not. I know I've heard of this official Geitpaste or however it's spelled and pronounced. But I haven't the foggiest on how to apply it, or it it's even the appropriate measure. A film can's worth is good for a car or two. The manual tells how, or you may be able to glean some information from my sagas: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/cwsunroof.html http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb240d.html#sunroof -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Confusing window A/C
The fan motor has three leads so I suspected it is a typical three speed motor setup Probably two speeds with only three leads. Such motors don't need capacitors for starting or running as they don't start under load. My understanding is that they're usually just shaded-pole motors, but those aren't as efficient. It's possible that the efficiency drive has even gotten to the blower motor too. The compressor also has three leads and a (common?) lead comes in through a separate thermal switch . The part I find confusing is a big capacitor which has three leads and a rating of both 7.5 mfd and 35 mfd. Sounds like the compressor is cap-start and cap-run. You should be able to trace the circuitry enough to figure out where this (important) capacitor goes. The rest of the electronics is just crap and can be replaced by a switch or two, as you surmise. ... they may require some sort of hookups with the capacitor. They do. But just trace the wiring, you'll get close enough. The command and control stuff is small and fiddly, but the big power paths are usually still easy to map out. One thing I've been curious about is the kind of compressors these newer A/Cs have. They are long, narrow compressors; much smaller than the old type. I would guess they would be rotary screw compressors on the order of the large ones in big commercial installations. The Sharp makes a very steady tone comparable to the large commercial compressors steady roar. Scroll/roll type? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit
The cable is the best place to start. Call Rusty and get some of the paste. Then get a small bottle brush that'll fit down the tube, its about 1/4 diameter or so. Also get about 8' of wire. Its got to be fairly strong but not super strong. 14ga house wire might work, 16ga would be better if you can get it. Then pull the headliner on the sunroof off, its easier if you start with it open. Just pull down on it, maybe use a plastic paint scraper to wedge it open. Disconnect the cable from the sunroof and run it out so it comes up out of the tube. Feed it out through the sunroof. WEAR GLOVES! Spend some time with some brake cleaner cleaning it up good. In the trunk disconnect the motor from the tube. I honestly don't remember how that works, its been 3 years since I did it, you'll figure it out it's not magic. Attach the wire to the brush. Shoot brake cleaner down the tube from the sunroof end. Then feed the brush down it. Work the brush back and forth, add brake cleaner, brush some more. Did I mention a pan in the trunk to catch the brake cleaner? Once the tube is clean (I wrapped my brush in paper towel for one last swipe) and the cable is clean stand in the car with your sunroof paste, get a good glob on your hand and glob it on the cable as you feed it back into the tube. As a last step you can use an acid brush to paint the channels the sunroof rides in. Now as a note when I did this on my 240D I took the sunroof out and messed with it. BIG MISTAKE. Cost me several hundred dollars for my Indy to fix what I bodgered... -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:31:55 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Sunroof quit To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I guess I'm now a member of the sunroof trouble club. I noticed after buying the 87 190D that the sunroof didn't close fully one time. So I re-opened it and closed it and it thunked shut loudly. Since then, it sort of thunked loudly when shutting but closed reliably. Tonight, it closed almost fully, but that's it. I re-opened it and tried to close it - no dice. And then it started to open and close very slowly. And now it won't move. Question: If I try to crank it shut manually in the trunk will I bolix it up? And: What is best course to fix this? I know I've heard of this official Geitpaste or however it's spelled and pronounced. But I haven't the foggiest on how to apply it, or it it's even the appropriate measure. Thanks Brian - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw:ReplacingInjectors(wasRe:1985300SDNastyEngineVibration)
Apparently that wasn't the problem on your car. All 3 of my MBs have needed motor mounts. On all 3 I could see the engine shaking and could feel it transmitted into the passenger compartment. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 04:18:14 -0400 From: Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw:ReplacingInjectors(was Re:1985300SD NastyEngineVibration) To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I replaced my motor shocks and was surprised how little difference it made. This is not the fix for a shakey motor. Scott Ritchey - Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
Well I have had 3 2.5 turbos with the panels there. I am not sure why they would be different, the chassis is the same. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset On 9/17/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The description says it's super quite with the enclosure on---so how quite is it really, compared to an idling 603 with the hood down, say? Does your 603 have intact belly pans? Makes quite a diff! :-) That's funny. Tell me another one! ;) Seriously, I have NEVER seen a 603 with intact belly pans. Neither of the two '87 300Ds I've owned, nor any of the dozen or so 300Ds and 300SDLs I've happened to glance under in the ten years or so since I contracted dieselitis, have had them still installed. I can't imagine that used ones would be worth bothering with, and I am too cheap to pay for new replacements, although I have been curious for a while whether the panels from the 300D 2.5 could be made to fit since they're much cheaper. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 2.5 Turbo IP
0400075929, thats the bosch number on the tag. Let me know what you find out. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 92 2.5 Turbo IP p/n? Luther On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:28:54 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea, its going to have to come apart. Let me get the part number and see what you can come up with. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration
George Larribeau wrote: A possibility is the rack damper bolt on the back of the IP, but, if it was mis-adjusted or worn out, I think you would see the engine visibly rock (its been like that when I've adjusted mine). visibly rock??? How much ?? A lot. Like ~2 side to side. When I was adjusting mine and it was running like that, it didn't make any cabin noise/vibration, but it shook the car side to side. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CarFax, please
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0080657629) 02/04/2003 SOUTHEASTERN REGION 57,536 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION 02/06/2003 SOUTHEASTERN REGION 57,536 Auto Auction AUCTION ANNOUNCED AS FLEET/LEASE 02/24/2003 FL 57,569 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV 02/24/2003 JACKSONVILLE, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 02/28/2003 JACKSONVILLE, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0080657629) (Lien Reported) 03/03/2003 FL 58,000 Independent Source INDEPENDENT INSPECTION 02/26/2004 JACKSONVILLE, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 02/23/2005 JACKSONVILLE, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 03/02/2006 JACKSONVILLE, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 02/23/2007 JACKSONVILLE, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 04/02/2007 FL 114,071 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION 04/03/2007 FL 114,071 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION AS DEALER VEHICLE This Vehicle's Glossary Below are the specific definitions for events that appear in this vehicle's report. More information is available in the full AutoCheck glossary. Term Section Location Definition Loan/Lien Vehicle Use and EventCheck A loan/lien is the legal right to take and hold or sell the vehicle of a debtor as security or payment for a debt. Normally, a vehicle will have a lien due to a loan or unpaid repair bill against the vehicle. Lease Vehicle Use and EventCheck Vehicle was registered as lease vehicle. Fleet and/or Rental Vehicle Use and EventCheck The vehicle is or was operated as a fleet and/or rental vehicle. Fleet and/or Lease Vehicle Use and EventCheck Vehicle is or was operated as a fleet vehicle or vehicle is assigned to a pool of vehicles usually owned/leased and operated by a company. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 7:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] CarFax, please Hi Kaleb [or anyone who has a carfax account] - My daughter is looking for a used car and is interested in this one. Carfax appreciated. Thanks - BillR 1C3EJ56H7YN221871 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 12355 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070918/341a28e5/attachment.gif -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 7733 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070918/341a28e5/attachment-0001.gif -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 1150 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070918/341a28e5/attachment-0002.gif -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 1156 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070918/341a28e5/attachment-0003.gif -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 360 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070918/341a28e5/attachment-0004.gif -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 1314 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070918/341a28e5/attachment-0005.gif -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 1024 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070918/341a28e5/attachment-0006.gif -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 839 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070918/341a28e5/attachment-0007.gif -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 1734 bytes Desc
Re: [MBZ] Fw:ReplacingInjectors(wasRe:1985300SDNastyEngineVibration)
I agree, before you can properly solve a problem you have to diagnose the problem. Replacing motor mounts will nothing for an injection problem, replacing injectors will do nothing for a compression problem, etc, etc. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:22 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw:ReplacingInjectors(wasRe:1985300SDNastyEngineVibration) Apparently that wasn't the problem on your car. All 3 of my MBs have needed motor mounts. On all 3 I could see the engine shaking and could feel it transmitted into the passenger compartment. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 04:18:14 -0400 From: Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw:ReplacingInjectors(was Re:1985300SD NastyEngineVibration) To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I replaced my motor shocks and was surprised how little difference it made. This is not the fix for a shakey motor. Scott Ritchey - Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Replacing Injectors(was Re:1985300SDNastyEngineVibration)
George Larribeau wrote: I tried unloosening each injector pipe and each one makes it run weirder but don't know what is up. What matters is that they all make it run weirder in the same way. If one changes the idle less than the others is when you have an injection/compression/etc problem. If they all changed the same then just get the new motor mounts in there. They aren't very expensive, and are most likely bad anyway. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blinker relay
It seems than at Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:10:26 -0500, Donald wrote: You may wonder why I am on here, I just traded in my Mercedes and haven't gotten the next one. No need for excuses. Once someone has the mindset to care for a car, they will fit in here - even if they only one a golf cart. -- Philip, with a herd of W123s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007
I.B.M. to Offer Office Software Free in Challenge to Microsoft's Line By STEVE LOHR http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/l/steve_lohr/index.html?inline=nyt-per Published: September 18, 2007 I.B.M. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/international_business_machines/index.html?inline=nyt-org plans to mount its most ambitious challenge in years to Microsoft http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/microsoft_corporation/index.html?inline=nyt-org's dominance of personal computer software, by offering free programs for word processing, spreadsheets and presentations. Steven A. Mills, senior vice president of I.B.M.'s software group, said the programs promote an open-source document format. The company is announcing the desktop software, called I.B.M. Lotus Symphony, at an event today in New York. The programs will be available as free downloads from the I.B.M. Web site. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/18/technology/18blue.html?_r=1ref=technologyoref=slogin -- LarryT wrote: Agree mostly. The one thing I use all the time in Word if printing envelopes. Perhaps Open does it also and I haven't found it yet. Other than that - and considering it;s free makes it a very good Suite. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007 I've used open office for over a year now. It can do everything Micro$#!t can do that the average user needs. It has most of the features that most advanced users need. You can't beat the price and cross-platform-compatibility with Win/Mac/Linux/Sparc/Solaris/FreeBSD etc. Luther On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:44:17 -0500, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got openoffice with my new refurb laptop. Seems to work very well! -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:02:34 -0500, you wrote: www.openoffice.org an even better deal --R -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 9/16/2007 6:32 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007
Agree mostly. The one thing I use all the time in Word if printing envelopes. Perhaps Open does it also and I haven't found it yet. Other than that - and considering it;s free makes it a very good Suite. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007 I've used open office for over a year now. It can do everything Micro$#!t can do that the average user needs. It has most of the features that most advanced users need. You can't beat the price and cross-platform-compatibility with Win/Mac/Linux/Sparc/Solaris/FreeBSD etc. Luther On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:44:17 -0500, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got openoffice with my new refurb laptop. Seems to work very well! -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:02:34 -0500, you wrote: www.openoffice.org an even better deal --R -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 9/16/2007 6:32 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CarFax, please
So it was leased in 2000, auctioned to a dealer resold less than a year later (first owner must not have liked it), traded in 2003, auctioned to dealer, resold, traded in 2007, auctioned to dealer, and now the car's been sitting there unsold since April? Quite a history for a 7 year old car, not that it really says anything about the car itself. A good PPI would tell you more about the car's condition than trying to draw inferences from the Carfax, but at least it hasn't been stolen, crashed, or flooded. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing coolant?
What does this mean for my 240D? I am thinking of changing t'stat at the some time as changing coolant. Is it a sequence issue? If you remove the thermostat there is little to no flow through the radiator. Either flush with a thermostat, letting the car get hot enough to open it, or replace the thermostat with a special bypass thermostat. (I use a wedged-open dead thermostat.) That will close the bypass passage, forcing all flow through the radiator. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics
Don't be too hard on your Son. Good 50 year old mechanics with business minds aren't turning wrenches anymore. They own their own shops are making 6 figure incomes the first digit isn't a 1. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09/15/07 03:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I think that there is hope - todays kids seem drawn to cars the way many of us were in the 50s and 60s. They do much of their own work and understand how their cars work. Although it seems a lot of kids are unwilling to choose this line of work. A local community college president related this story - a local Ford dealer told the Pres he would hire any students graduating from the CCs auto technology program at a starting salary of $50K /yr. This was 5 years ago so I suspect it has gone up. Sadly there were few takers. Oh well, life goes on -- My 14 y/o son wants to go into a mechanical or electrical trade when he graduates high school. I have no problem with that, however I have explained to him that when he gets to be 50 plus years old, he may not like turning wrenches 40 hours a week any more. I am twisting his arm to go to college first. He is very intelligent and will do well whatever profession he chooses. He traded a bicycle for a non-running 5hp Honda engine. He was thrilled to have it running within an hour of getting it home. Instead of him taking stuff apart and ME putting it back together correctly, he is getting better about completing tasks like this with little input from me. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing coolant?
Jim, What does this mean for my 240D? I am thinking of changing t'stat at the some time as changing coolant. Is it a sequence issue? Thanks. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI You wrote You should NEVER remove the thermostat on cars (yours) with the double acting thermostat that closes the bypass when the thermostat opens. If you have trouble with venting, the small metal tube off the top of the pump housing could be clogged. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Confusing window A/C
In a message dated 9/18/2007 2:20:58 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A ten year old 6000 btu Amana Quiet Cool window A/c in the shop quit running after I had smelled hot electronics for a short while. The circuit boards, the fan motor, and the wiring don't look smoked; but the condenser is so rusty I wonder if it might be the cause of the smell. The circuit diagram is illegible from exposure to rain, etc. The fan motor has three leads so I suspected it is a typical three speed motor setup and it was confirmed on the label but the label gave no color codes for the wires. The compressor also has three leads and a (common?) lead comes in through a separate thermal switch . The part I find confusing is a big capacitor which has three leads and a rating of both 7.5 mfd and 35 mfd. From looking at the label on the blower motor, it doesn't appear to be a capacitor start or capacitor run motor, so I would guess that both the blower motor and the compressor use the capacitor simply to give them a little more amperage when they start up since they both start at once on some settings of the dial; but that's just a wild guess. Gerry, I believe you will find that this is a RUN capacitor, dual rated with the lower rating going to the condenser fan motor, and the higher for the compressor. The cooling fan does not require a capacitor. Look carefully for swelling, especially on the ends, and of course, leakage. A 10 year old cap is your likely your culprit, with my guess being the condenser fan motor will not run and is overheating, causing the smell. The condenser fan should spin freely and being outdoors, can start to seize up over time. Oil might be all you need. Both Johnstones and Graingers have good prices on these and will take cash sales from individuals. I would not screw with the controls as there are a lot of safety devices and interlocks. You don't want to set fire to your window, and all that is attached! Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing coolant?
In a message dated 9/18/2007 8:13:09 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim, What does this mean for my 240D? I am thinking of changing t'stat at the some time as changing coolant. Is it a sequence issue? Thanks. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI You wrote You should NEVER remove the thermostat on cars (yours) with the double acting thermostat that closes the bypass when the thermostat opens. If you have trouble with venting, the small metal tube off the top of the pump housing could be clogged. Dwight, Restated, you should never operate the engine, under load, with the thermostat removed. This applies to nearly every engine since emissions have become an issue. MB and many other cars use the double disc thermostat that allows recircing the coolant in the engine for quick warm up, then closes the recirc port as the engine warms enough to open the cooling port. Many of us have gone through the 50's and 60's, tossing the thermostats in a box somewhere. NO MORE! Maintaining design operating temperature is critical to engine efficiency, oil control, and of course, emissions. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw:ReplacingInjectors(was Re:1985300SD NastyEngineVibration)
It sure fixed the shakes Gump was having. Sitting at idle waiting for the light to turn green subjected passengers to rigorous imitations of bowls of jello. Once the new mounts were in, she calmed down so that engine motion was once more a purr clay On 18 Sep 2007, at 01:18, Scott Ritchey wrote: I replaced my motor shocks and was surprised how little difference it made. This is not the fix for a shakey motor. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Stark Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ]Fw:ReplacingInjectors(was Re:1985300SD NastyEngineVibration) George - The only thing the engine mount shocks do is to minimize the shaking when the engine is shut down. You might want to test them first before you buy new ones as they rarely go bad, OTOH you can replace the mounting kits for the shocks when you replace the engine mounts. Barry The front mounts are questionable and the engine shocks don't look happy. I will order new ones tomorrow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4MATIC trans fluid?
dave walton wrote: Any suggestions what to look out for? Somebody who will sell you an effective extended warranty on a 17 year old 4c4? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: ReplacingInjectors(was Re:1985300SDNastyEngineVibration)
I think they all made it weirder in the same way very subjective. This was done on a warmed up engine. I ordered a set of mounts motor and tranny , engine shocks and installation kits for the shocks. The shocks look original and the rubber mounts for the shock are dried and cracked. The engine mounts have been there for a while (corrosion on bolts) but don't look all that nasty. I think the Trany mount was service by the previous owner (hard ware looks more recent) but it is not all that expensive and this way I will know its age. I now believe that the replacement injectors do make it run a bit stronger. It is responsive and accerallates as good as is has ever as far as my experience with it. George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: ReplacingInjectors(was Re:1985300SDNastyEngineVibration) George Larribeau wrote: I tried unloosening each injector pipe and each one makes it run weirder but don't know what is up. What matters is that they all make it run weirder in the same way. If one changes the idle less than the others is when you have an injection/compression/etc problem. If they all changed the same then just get the new motor mounts in there. They aren't very expensive, and are most likely bad anyway. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4MATIC trans fluid?
No special juice, she is ok. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 12:14 PM Subject: [MBZ] 4MATIC trans fluid? My sister went against my advice and bought a 91 4Matic wagon. Can I use Mobil-1 ATF, or do they require some special juice? Any suggestions what to look out for? Thanks -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4MATIC trans fluid?
The irony is that she bought the 91 wagon because her diesel Jetta is having transmission problems. At least the whole Mercedes cost less than the rebuilt transmission for the Jetta. Who was it that said the most expensive car you can buy is a cheap Mercedes? -Dave Walton On 9/18/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave walton wrote: Any suggestions what to look out for? Somebody who will sell you an effective extended warranty on a 17 year old 4c4? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4MATIC trans fluid?
On 9/18/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave walton wrote: Any suggestions what to look out for? Somebody who will sell you an effective extended warranty on a 17 year old 4c4? I have been told that the conventional wisdom that first-generation 4-Matics are money pits is no longer true, the reason being that most are now on their third or fourth transfer case, and Mercedes finally got the design right after numerous in-the-field refinements (sort of like 603 heads). Small comfort! For similar comfort and performance with way more reliability and parts availability, though, I'd pick any late 5-cylinder Audi Quattro. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing coolant?/ Current Star Article
George Murphy presents MB latest move into extended interval/lifetime services with an interesting coolant article. It appears that most MB produced since 2003 will qualify for the new 15 year, 150,000 mile coolant lifetime. Controlling Ph appears to be the central feature of this program. Not acidic,as someone recently tried to expound on, but slightly above neutral, approaching PH of 8. This because of a time release from an additive package found in new and replacement coolant surge tanks. From what I read, the current MB coolant, as well as Zerex G-05, will remain the coolant of choice. This will certainly be interesting to watch, following the recent policy change on the lifetime fluid used in there automatic transmissions. My 98 ML was delivered with this fluid, a sealed fill tube, and NO dipstick. Now the fluid life corresponds to the 39,000 mile service interval and a service dipstick is available. Worth reading, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4MATIC trans fluid?
well the trans is a trans, its the same. If you mean for the 4matic unit, it required SLS hydraulic fluid. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:14 AM Subject: [MBZ] 4MATIC trans fluid? My sister went against my advice and bought a 91 4Matic wagon. Can I use Mobil-1 ATF, or do they require some special juice? Any suggestions what to look out for? Thanks -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4MATIC trans fluid?
Somebody who cant work on their own car? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4MATIC trans fluid? The irony is that she bought the 91 wagon because her diesel Jetta is having transmission problems. At least the whole Mercedes cost less than the rebuilt transmission for the Jetta. Who was it that said the most expensive car you can buy is a cheap Mercedes? -Dave Walton On 9/18/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave walton wrote: Any suggestions what to look out for? Somebody who will sell you an effective extended warranty on a 17 year old 4c4? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing coolant?/ Current Star Article
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This will certainly be interesting to watch, following the recent policy change on the lifetime fluid used in there automatic transmissions. My 98 ML was delivered with this fluid, a sealed fill tube, and NO dipstick. Now the fluid life corresponds to the 39,000 mile service interval and a service dipstick is available. I thought the service dipstick was always a publicly available factory tool. Is it now a part instead of a tool? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw:ReplacingInjectors(was Re:1985300SD NastyEngineVibration)
Guess the conclusion is that one needs to fix the thing that's broke. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 12:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ]Fw:ReplacingInjectors(was Re:1985300SD NastyEngineVibration) It sure fixed the shakes Gump was having. Sitting at idle waiting for the light to turn green subjected passengers to rigorous imitations of bowls of jello. Once the new mounts were in, she calmed down so that engine motion was once more a purr clay On 18 Sep 2007, at 01:18, Scott Ritchey wrote: I replaced my motor shocks and was surprised how little difference it made. This is not the fix for a shakey motor. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Stark Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ]Fw:ReplacingInjectors(was Re:1985300SD NastyEngineVibration) George - The only thing the engine mount shocks do is to minimize the shaking when the engine is shut down. You might want to test them first before you buy new ones as they rarely go bad, OTOH you can replace the mounting kits for the shocks when you replace the engine mounts. Barry The front mounts are questionable and the engine shocks don't look happy. I will order new ones tomorrow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007
Copied right from the help file. See *.pdf attachment for the 1 minute envelope I just created. Envelope Creates an envelope. On three tab pages, you can specify the addressee and sender, the position and format for both addresses, the size of the envelope, and the envelope orientation. To access this command... Choose Insert - Envelope Luther On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:55:55 -0500, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree mostly. The one thing I use all the time in Word if printing envelopes. Perhaps Open does it also and I haven't found it yet. Other than that - and considering it;s free makes it a very good Suite. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007 I've used open office for over a year now. It can do everything Micro$#!t can do that the average user needs. It has most of the features that most advanced users need. You can't beat the price and cross-platform-compatibility with Win/Mac/Linux/Sparc/Solaris/FreeBSD etc. Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: envelope-LarryT.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 20789 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070918/21b165c4/attachment.pdf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007
It seems than at Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:55:55 -0400, LarryT wrote: Agree mostly. The one thing I use all the time in Word if printing envelopes. Perhaps Open does it also and I haven't found it yet. Other than that - and considering it;s free makes it a very good Suite. I can't speak for Windows versions, but on Linux, I quite often print envelopes. I recall I started with a template, but it was a lng time ago. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Light truck tires
Sometime before winter I will need to get new tires for my wife's 97 Explorer 4WD. She had BF Goodrich long trail (or some other similar name). They have worn like iron. We have put at least 30,000 miles since we bought the car. When I bought it, I thought we would need tires soon. But, we still have not gotten down to the wear bars - although very close. So, to those of you with trucks and suv's, what are good tires for this vehicle. I might just buy the same tires we already have. I have had no complaints. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] service dipstick
I thought the service dipstick was always a publicly available factory tool. Is it now a part instead of a tool? When I bought one in 2001 to use in my dipstickless C320, it was called a special tool and priced as such. RLE ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Light truck tires
Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, to those of you with trucks and suv's, what are good tires for this vehicle. I might just buy the same tires we already have. I have had no complaints. I always bought MasterCraft tires for my SUVs. Made by Cooper. Fairly cheap, as SUV tires go, and seemed good enough. Never had any problems with them. YMMV. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4MATIC trans fluid?
Does the transfer case have it's own fluid separate from the transmission? If so, is it okay to use the same ATF? Thanks -Dave Walton On 9/18/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/18/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave walton wrote: Any suggestions what to look out for? Somebody who will sell you an effective extended warranty on a 17 year old 4c4? I have been told that the conventional wisdom that first-generation 4-Matics are money pits is no longer true, the reason being that most are now on their third or fourth transfer case, and Mercedes finally got the design right after numerous in-the-field refinements (sort of like 603 heads). Small comfort! For similar comfort and performance with way more reliability and parts availability, though, I'd pick any late 5-cylinder Audi Quattro. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4MATIC trans fluid?
Well it takes SLS hydraulic fluid. Im not sure if it also has a seperate lubrication but it is controlled/activated by the SLS fluid. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4MATIC trans fluid? Does the transfer case have it's own fluid separate from the transmission? If so, is it okay to use the same ATF? Thanks -Dave Walton On 9/18/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/18/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave walton wrote: Any suggestions what to look out for? Somebody who will sell you an effective extended warranty on a 17 year old 4c4? I have been told that the conventional wisdom that first-generation 4-Matics are money pits is no longer true, the reason being that most are now on their third or fourth transfer case, and Mercedes finally got the design right after numerous in-the-field refinements (sort of like 603 heads). Small comfort! For similar comfort and performance with way more reliability and parts availability, though, I'd pick any late 5-cylinder Audi Quattro. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4MATIC trans fluid?
Is that the self leveling suspension thing? How many frigging fluids are in this beast? -Dave Walton On 9/18/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it takes SLS hydraulic fluid. Im not sure if it also has a seperate lubrication but it is controlled/activated by the SLS fluid. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4MATIC trans fluid? Does the transfer case have it's own fluid separate from the transmission? If so, is it okay to use the same ATF? Thanks -Dave Walton On 9/18/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/18/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave walton wrote: Any suggestions what to look out for? Somebody who will sell you an effective extended warranty on a 17 year old 4c4? I have been told that the conventional wisdom that first-generation 4-Matics are money pits is no longer true, the reason being that most are now on their third or fourth transfer case, and Mercedes finally got the design right after numerous in-the-field refinements (sort of like 603 heads). Small comfort! For similar comfort and performance with way more reliability and parts availability, though, I'd pick any late 5-cylinder Audi Quattro. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4MATIC trans fluid?
yes, self leveling suspension fluid --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4MATIC trans fluid? Is that the self leveling suspension thing? How many frigging fluids are in this beast? -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Confusing window A/C
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A ten year old 6000 btu Amana Quiet Cool window A/c in the shop quit running after I had smelled hot electronics for a short while. The circuit boards, the fan motor, and the wiring don't look smoked; but the condenser is so rusty I wonder if it might be the cause of the smell. The circuit diagram is illegible from exposure to rain, etc. The fan motor has three leads so I suspected it is a typical three speed motor setup and it was confirmed on the label but the label gave no color codes for the wires. The compressor also has three leads and a (common?) lead comes in through a separate thermal switch . The part I find confusing is a big capacitor which has three leads and a rating of both 7.5 mfd and 35 mfd. From looking at the label on the blower motor, it doesn't appear to be a capacitor start or capacitor run motor, so I would guess that both the blower motor and the compressor use the capacitor simply to give them a little more amperage when they start up since they both start at once on some settings of the dial; but that's just a wild guess. Gerry, I believe you will find that this is a RUN capacitor, dual rated with the lower rating going to the condenser fan motor, and the higher for the compressor. The cooling fan does not require a capacitor. Look carefully for swelling, especially on the ends, and of course, leakage. A 10 year old cap is your likely your culprit, with my guess being the condenser fan motor will not run and is overheating, causing the smell. The condenser fan should spin freely and being outdoors, can start to seize up over time. Oil might be all you need. Both Johnstones and Graingers have good prices on these and will take cash sales from individuals. I would not screw with the controls as there are a lot of safety devices and interlocks. You don't want to set fire to your window, and all that is attached! Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles -- Thanks, Jim. After further disassembly and cleaning off some of the crud, I found that the fan motor which runs both the evaporator and condenser fan has a label on the motor showing that it does need a capacitor in it's circuit. The motor turns freely but it smells so much like burnt wiring, I doubt it will run very long if at all. Think I'll junk this A/C and get a new one since the dual 7.5-35 mfd capacitors are scarce and pretty expensive on the internet. Would like to use the compressor (with a 35 mfd cap?) as a vacuum pump if it's still good. I would guess that the capacitor would be wired between two of the three terminals on the compressor, or would I be wrong? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Confusing window A/C
- Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Jim, I wrote: The fan motor has three leads so I suspected it is a typical three speed motor setup You wrote: Probably two speeds with only three leads. Such motors don't need capacitors for starting or running as they don't start under load. My understanding is that they're usually just shaded-pole motors, but those aren't as efficient. It's possible that the efficiency drive has even gotten to the blower motor too. After cleaning off the crud I found three more leads (6 total) coming from the fan and a diagram which showed a capacitor between two of them. The compressor also has three leads and a (common?) lead comes in through a separate thermal switch . The part I find confusing is a big capacitor which has three leads and a rating of both 7.5 mfd and 35 mfd. Sounds like the compressor is cap-start and cap-run. You should be able to trace the circuitry enough to figure out where this (important) capacitor goes. The rest of the electronics is just crap and can be replaced by a switch or two, as you surmise. ... they may require some sort of hookups with the capacitor. They do. But just trace the wiring, you'll get close enough. The command and control stuff is small and fiddly, but the big power paths are usually still easy to map out. Tried tracing the wiring through the stacked pc boards where all the wires terminate. These pc boards have a transformer, 5 capacitors, four relays, four transistors, four dimms, 24 diodes, and 51 resistors! While the wires to the compressor and fan terminate at the relays, haven't been able to figure out which connects to which since the relays are sealed. Since the fan motor has such a strong smell of burnt wiring and since the scarce replacement capacitor is so expensive, I've decided to junk it and get a new one. I would like to rig up the compressor as a vacuum pump if it's still good and run it with a 35 mfd capacitor. I would guess that the capacitor would be wired between two of the three leads on the compressor? One thing I've been curious about is the kind of compressors these newer A/Cs have. They are long, narrow compressors; much smaller than the old type. I would guess they would be rotary screw compressors on the order of the large ones in big commercial installations. The Sharp makes a very steady tone comparable to the large commercial compressors steady roar. Scroll/roll type? -- Jim - Looked that up on the 'net. You're right. Seems like only the big ones are called screw compressors. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Light truck tires
We have a set of Hercules tires on our 4Runner. They have about 54K miles on them now and are starting to wear a bit unevenly so are being replaced but I can't complain. I believe they are more common in the US than in Canada so you could likely find them. Don't recall the exact version we have but they are 31 X 10.5 - 15 so pretty big tires for a truck that size. My younger son is working part time in a tire shop and we have ordered a set of ProComp tires to replace the Hercules. Don't know what they look like but the store manager suggested they were the best deal at the moment on that size. We have BF Goodrich on a 98 F150 Shortbox 4X4. They have over 24K miles so far and seem to be doing fine. We have Cooper tires on my 02 F150 Supercrew. They have about 12K miles in the past year and appear to be doing fine. Don't know if any of this helps but here it is anyway. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 2:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT Light truck tires Sometime before winter I will need to get new tires for my wife's 97 Explorer 4WD. She had BF Goodrich long trail (or some other similar name). They have worn like iron. We have put at least 30,000 miles since we bought the car. When I bought it, I thought we would need tires soon. But, we still have not gotten down to the wear bars - although very close. So, to those of you with trucks and suv's, what are good tires for this vehicle. I might just buy the same tires we already have. I have had no complaints. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Light truck tires
R A Bennell wrote: We have a set of Hercules tires on our 4Runner. They have about 54K miles on them now and are starting to wear a bit unevenly so are being replaced but I can't complain. I believe they are more common in the US than in Canada so you could likely find them. Don't recall the exact version we have but they are 31 X 10.5 - 15 so pretty big tires for a truck that size. My younger son is working part time in a tire shop and we have ordered a set of ProComp tires to replace the Hercules. Don't know what they look like but the store manager suggested they were the best deal at the moment on that size. We have BF Goodrich on a 98 F150 Shortbox 4X4. They have over 24K miles so far and seem to be doing fine. We have Cooper tires on my 02 F150 Supercrew. They have about 12K miles in the past year and appear to be doing fine. Don't know if any of this helps but here it is anyway. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 2:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT Light truck tires Sometime before winter I will need to get new tires for my wife's 97 Explorer 4WD. She had BF Goodrich long trail (or some other similar name). They have worn like iron. We have put at least 30,000 miles since we bought the car. When I bought it, I thought we would need tires soon. But, we still have not gotten down to the wear bars - although very close. So, to those of you with trucks and suv's, what are good tires for this vehicle. I might just buy the same tires we already have. I have had no complaints. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit
Great instructions. Yeah, I don't really have the service manual, so can't consult that. As for just getting the thing closed for now: I got in the trunk and attempted to turn the thing the owner's manual describes as a hex shaped thing. So I put a socket on the hex nut and turned. It got harder to turn as it went. I did see something inside the motor turning though. The manual says clockwise closes the roof. So just to try to see how things work, I turned counterclockwise, and the nut began to unthread from its center shaft. Wonder if the factory tool was made to turn this center shaft (which has a couple of flats and the rest is round) instead of the nut? (factory tool is missing). I turned the center shaft with some pliers and it rotated a bit, then started to sort of strip out. When I let go of it, it rotates back counterclockwise a bit. I have physically pulled and pushed the sunroof shut, but it won't raise up and seal up to the roof in the rear. I thought the thing was designed so that it could be reliably opened and closed manually from the trunk. Maybe that's just in the case of a motor failure, not a binding-up situation? Brian On 9/18/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The cable is the best place to start. Call Rusty and get some of the paste. Then get a small bottle brush that'll fit down the tube, its about 1/4 diameter or so. Also get about 8' of wire. Its got to be fairly strong but not super strong. 14ga house wire might work, 16ga would be better if you can get it. Then pull the headliner on the sunroof off, its easier if you start with it open. Just pull down on it, maybe use a plastic paint scraper to wedge it open. Disconnect the cable from the sunroof and run it out so it comes up out of the tube. Feed it out through the sunroof. WEAR GLOVES! Spend some time with some brake cleaner cleaning it up good. In the trunk disconnect the motor from the tube. I honestly don't remember how that works, its been 3 years since I did it, you'll figure it out it's not magic. Attach the wire to the brush. Shoot brake cleaner down the tube from the sunroof end. Then feed the brush down it. Work the brush back and forth, add brake cleaner, brush some more. Did I mention a pan in the trunk to catch the brake cleaner? Once the tube is clean (I wrapped my brush in paper towel for one last swipe) and the cable is clean stand in the car with your sunroof paste, get a good glob on your hand and glob it on the cable as you feed it back into the tube. As a last step you can use an acid brush to paint the channels the sunroof rides in. Now as a note when I did this on my 240D I took the sunroof out and messed with it. BIG MISTAKE. Cost me several hundred dollars for my Indy to fix what I bodgered... -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:31:55 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Sunroof quit To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I guess I'm now a member of the sunroof trouble club. I noticed after buying the 87 190D that the sunroof didn't close fully one time. So I re-opened it and closed it and it thunked shut loudly. Since then, it sort of thunked loudly when shutting but closed reliably. Tonight, it closed almost fully, but that's it. I re-opened it and tried to close it - no dice. And then it started to open and close very slowly. And now it won't move. Question: If I try to crank it shut manually in the trunk will I bolix it up? And: What is best course to fix this? I know I've heard of this official Geitpaste or however it's spelled and pronounced. But I haven't the foggiest on how to apply it, or it it's even the appropriate measure. Thanks Brian - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit
Probably the cable is toast or the translation bridge is sideways. Sorry not to have managed to get into this discussion sooner, but what you should have done, if the roof was open partway, was to have removed the headliner. You can then get it to move manually and remove the cable. The usual failure is broken lift angles, followed by the translation bridge getting stuck at a cross angle. Until to get the bridge straight across, the roof panel won't move. Peter On Sep 18, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: Great instructions. Yeah, I don't really have the service manual, so can't consult that. As for just getting the thing closed for now: I got in the trunk and attempted to turn the thing the owner's manual describes as a hex shaped thing. So I put a socket on the hex nut and turned. It got harder to turn as it went. I did see something inside the motor turning though. The manual says clockwise closes the roof. So just to try to see how things work, I turned counterclockwise, and the nut began to unthread from its center shaft. Wonder if the factory tool was made to turn this center shaft (which has a couple of flats and the rest is round) instead of the nut? (factory tool is missing). I turned the center shaft with some pliers and it rotated a bit, then started to sort of strip out. When I let go of it, it rotates back counterclockwise a bit. I have physically pulled and pushed the sunroof shut, but it won't raise up and seal up to the roof in the rear. I thought the thing was designed so that it could be reliably opened and closed manually from the trunk. Maybe that's just in the case of a motor failure, not a binding-up situation? Brian On 9/18/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The cable is the best place to start. Call Rusty and get some of the paste. Then get a small bottle brush that'll fit down the tube, its about 1/4 diameter or so. Also get about 8' of wire. Its got to be fairly strong but not super strong. 14ga house wire might work, 16ga would be better if you can get it. Then pull the headliner on the sunroof off, its easier if you start with it open. Just pull down on it, maybe use a plastic paint scraper to wedge it open. Disconnect the cable from the sunroof and run it out so it comes up out of the tube. Feed it out through the sunroof. WEAR GLOVES! Spend some time with some brake cleaner cleaning it up good. In the trunk disconnect the motor from the tube. I honestly don't remember how that works, its been 3 years since I did it, you'll figure it out it's not magic. Attach the wire to the brush. Shoot brake cleaner down the tube from the sunroof end. Then feed the brush down it. Work the brush back and forth, add brake cleaner, brush some more. Did I mention a pan in the trunk to catch the brake cleaner? Once the tube is clean (I wrapped my brush in paper towel for one last swipe) and the cable is clean stand in the car with your sunroof paste, get a good glob on your hand and glob it on the cable as you feed it back into the tube. As a last step you can use an acid brush to paint the channels the sunroof rides in. Now as a note when I did this on my 240D I took the sunroof out and messed with it. BIG MISTAKE. Cost me several hundred dollars for my Indy to fix what I bodgered... -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:31:55 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Sunroof quit To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I guess I'm now a member of the sunroof trouble club. I noticed after buying the 87 190D that the sunroof didn't close fully one time. So I re-opened it and closed it and it thunked shut loudly. Since then, it sort of thunked loudly when shutting but closed reliably. Tonight, it closed almost fully, but that's it. I re-opened it and tried to close it - no dice. And then it started to open and close very slowly. And now it won't move. Question: If I try to crank it shut manually in the trunk will I bolix it up? And: What is best course to fix this? I know I've heard of this official Geitpaste or however it's spelled and pronounced. But I haven't the foggiest on how to apply it, or it it's even the appropriate measure. Thanks Brian - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options
Re: [MBZ] Blinker relay
I'll look under the console. Thanks Well in my 83 300TD it was located on the driver's side of the transmission stick shift under the wood console. On Sep 16, 2007, at 6:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm new to the list, but not new to Benz ownership. I've got an 85 300D turbo. I lost blinkers both turn and emergency and would like to replace the blinker relay, but can't find it. Anyone happen to know where to look for the relay? Thanks, -- Rick Taylor The Old Shop Teacher Smack Dab in the middle of the US Topeka, KS ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com John 1983 300TDt 383k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 205k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 194k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rick Taylor The Old Shop Teacher Smack Dab in the middle of the US Topeka, KS ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blinker relay
I have some contact cleaner, I'll give that a try. Thanks for everyone's help. Hello, I'm new to the list, but not new to Benz ownership. I've got an 85 300D turbo. I lost blinkers both turn and emergency and would like to replace the blinker relay, but can't find it. Anyone happen to know where to look for the relay? Cycle the emergency flasher switch about a billion times. If it clears up, schedule some time to take it apart and clean the contacts. It's almost never the blinker relay, almost always that switch. And all it needs is a good cleaning, usually. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rick Taylor The Old Shop Teacher Smack Dab in the middle of the US Topeka, KS ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blinker relay
Thanks, I'll see if I can clean the switch. 1. Have you tried resetting (smacking the crap out of) the emergency blinker switch? My '77 240D occasionally loses blinker and it turns out to be the fault of the emergency blinker switch. 2. Kleb has a whole back yard full of what you need, if that fails. D. On 9/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm new to the list, but not new to Benz ownership. I've got an 85 300D turbo. I lost blinkers both turn and emergency and would like to replace the blinker relay, but can't find it. Anyone happen to know where to look for the relay? Thanks, -- Rick Taylor The Old Shop Teacher Smack Dab in the middle of the US Topeka, KS ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rick Taylor The Old Shop Teacher Smack Dab in the middle of the US Topeka, KS ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blinker relay
Thanks. I hope your long years in Topeka are paying off now. Rick Taylor signed his email thusly: The Old Shop Teacher Smack Dab in the middle of the US Topeka, KS Topeka, KS? WOW! It is good to have another Kansan on here. I live in Wichita. I spent THREE LONG years in Topeka for law school. Glad to have you, Rick. You may wonder why I am on here, I just traded in my Mercedes and haven't gotten the next one. Donald H. Snook 2001 Ford Expedition ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rick Taylor The Old Shop Teacher Smack Dab in the middle of the US Topeka, KS ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blinker relay
There seem to be a number of vintage Benz's around this area, many of them with badges!! I didnt know you lived there. I was just up there Thursday. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] Blinker relay Rick Taylor signed his email thusly: The Old Shop Teacher Smack Dab in the middle of the US Topeka, KS Topeka, KS? WOW! It is good to have another Kansan on here. I live in Wichita. I spent THREE LONG years in Topeka for law school. Glad to have you, Rick. You may wonder why I am on here, I just traded in my Mercedes and haven't gotten the next one. Donald H. Snook 2001 Ford Expedition ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rick Taylor The Old Shop Teacher Smack Dab in the middle of the US Topeka, KS ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tools for adjusting front wheel bearings
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:38:55 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Ritchey wrote: In my experience (comparing a dial gage with feel) the nut setting is right when you can just feel the slightest movement when you push/pull on the brake disk. If it's a one-off job, instead of one you do daily and develop a feel for, I'd use proper measuring tools every time. Yes, particularly with MB front wheel bearings where the manual is very specific. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing coolant?
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:15:54 -0400 Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, What does this mean for my 240D? I am thinking of changing t'stat at the some time as changing coolant. Is it a sequence issue? No, it's a symantic issue. You must not RUN it with no thermostat. However, you may replace the thermostat whenever you desire. Craig Thanks. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI You wrote You should NEVER remove the thermostat on cars (yours) with the double acting thermostat that closes the bypass when the thermostat opens. If you have trouble with venting, the small metal tube off the top of the pump housing could be clogged. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- Craig McCluskey Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 238 kmi Past: 1964 190Dc 1972 220D/8 1972 220/8 1987 190E/2.3 /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Friends don't send friends X AGAINST HTML MAIL HTML email. / \ AND POSTINGS http://www.fred.net/tds/longrange.html http://pruffle.mit.edu/~ccarter/I_do_not_use_microsoft.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit
So just to try to see how things work, I turned counterclockwise, and the nut began to unthread from its center shaft. Wonder if the factory tool was made to turn this center shaft (which has a couple of flats and the rest is round) instead of the nut? (factory tool is missing). It is. The nut sets the clutch tension IIRC, the flatted shaft is what drives the cable. Until something jams. I thought the thing was designed so that it could be reliably opened and closed manually from the trunk. Maybe that's just in the case of a motor failure, not a binding-up situation? Exactly. Motor, switch, or fuse failure. A jammed mechanism is, well, _jammed_. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Confusing window A/C
circuit. The motor turns freely but it smells so much like burnt wiring, I doubt it will run very long if at all. Burnt smelling is bad news, usually. Think I'll junk this A/C and get a new one since the dual 7.5-35 mfd capacitors are scarce and pretty expensive on the internet. I don't believe there is anything electrically interesting about your dual cap, I think it was just two caps in one package, a money-saving measure. You could replace them with separate units, if you could find the room for both. Would like to use the compressor (with a 35 mfd cap?) as a vacuum pump if it's still good. I would guess that the capacitor would be wired between two of the three terminals on the compressor, or would I be wrong? Most refrigeration compressors make poor vacuum pumps because they don't get lubricated. Yorks are an exception because they have a traditional crankcase full of oil. Home AC units are also cooled by the refrigerant flow. With no flow, she's a-gonna get hot! I don't recommend what you're doing, except as an experiment. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit
I have read most of the info in those two links you posted. Answered some questions. We have noticed before this failure that there were a few streaks being left on the headliner from opening and closing the roof. And the stuff feels gummy. Sounds like all needs a cleaning. I wonder if someone has messed with this before and used wrong lube. Also, on your site, you mentioned some sort of plastic cap onto which the factory tool goes? That was not present. Of course you mentioned the tool being the tire iron. With the 190, apparently, they supplied a separate tool into which the supplied screwdriver gets inserted in order to give turning power. But in my defense, the manual described the turning dealie as hex. That's why I turned the hex nut. I did put the key in ignition and operated the switch in hopes it would go ahead and seal up to roof. But I just hear the motor running. I think maybe my loosening of that clutch adjusting nut has removed tension on the cable? Brian On 9/18/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So just to try to see how things work, I turned counterclockwise, and the nut began to unthread from its center shaft. Wonder if the factory tool was made to turn this center shaft (which has a couple of flats and the rest is round) instead of the nut? (factory tool is missing). It is. The nut sets the clutch tension IIRC, the flatted shaft is what drives the cable. Until something jams. I thought the thing was designed so that it could be reliably opened and closed manually from the trunk. Maybe that's just in the case of a motor failure, not a binding-up situation? Exactly. Motor, switch, or fuse failure. A jammed mechanism is, well, _jammed_. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Confusing window A/C
It seems than at Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:44:39 -0700, Jim wrote: Most refrigeration compressors make poor vacuum pumps because they don't get lubricated. Yorks are an exception because they have a traditional crankcase full of oil. Are you implying that a York will make a passable vacuum pump? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My latest score
Kaleb, Now that you have that score, you want to sell me your POS 300SDL CHEP? How about a package deal for the SDL and the 300D 2.5? BTW, have you got any pictures of the 300D 2.5 in discussion? Loren At 09:02 PM 9/13/2007, you wrote: So I today I buy a 92 300SD from the Mercedes dealer in Wichita. I got them down 2k off there already VERY cheap price. 137k miles. Damn thing is near perfect. They dont mess with those old cars like that. I am surprised they didnt just run it thru the auction right off the bat. Geez, I have been missing the 140. It makes the 126 look like a POS FROD or something. When I got it home and was digging thru it, what do I find in the rear seat pocket but a BRAND NEW Ipod Nano. I mean BRAND NEW. Never been opened. Holy crap!! I dont care anything about Ipods but the wife does. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Confusing window A/C
Are you implying that a York will make a passable vacuum pump? Yes. Not good enough for moisture removal in an AC system, but magnificent at sucking the oil out of an engine! (Indirectly, through a tank.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit
Also, on your site, you mentioned some sort of plastic cap onto which the factory tool goes? That was not present. The plastic hex cap, often missing, locks the hex nut in position on the flatted shaft. The tire iron turns the entire mess, but it only works so long as it hasn't gotten stiff. Once it binds, the plastic cap breaks, falls into the trunk, and is discarded. I think maybe my loosening of that clutch adjusting nut has removed tension on the cable? Yes, you could try tightening it back a bit. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions
Gary Hurst wrote: you are one deeply disturbed young lady Yeah. Here's what the ladies and I did this morning: http://www.ksdk.com/video/default.aspx?aid=58983sid=129827bw=hicat=78 Fast forward to 1:37 Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Confusing window A/C
- Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] circuit. The motor turns freely but it smells so much like burnt wiring, I doubt it will run very long if at all. Burnt smelling is bad news, usually. Think I'll junk this A/C and get a new one since the dual 7.5-35 mfd capacitors are scarce and pretty expensive on the internet. I don't believe there is anything electrically interesting about your dual cap, I think it was just two caps in one package, a money-saving measure. You could replace them with separate units, if you could find the room for both. Would like to use the compressor (with a 35 mfd cap?) as a vacuum pump if it's still good. I would guess that the capacitor would be wired between two of the three terminals on the compressor, or would I be wrong? Most refrigeration compressors make poor vacuum pumps because they don't get lubricated. Yorks are an exception because they have a traditional crankcase full of oil. Home AC units are also cooled by the refrigerant flow. With no flow, she's a-gonna get hot! I don't recommend what you're doing, except as an experiment. -- Jim - I'm sure you're right about the AC units which pump a lot more freon and generate a lot more heat. I've been using a compressor out of a half-size office refrigerator to evacuate car AC systems for several years. I bent the pressure tubing straight up, cut a plastic bottle in half, put a lab cork with an appropriate size hole in it, slid the cork down over the pressure tubing, and slid it down just below the end of the pressure tubing. When the compressor runs, it pumps droplets of oil out the pressure side which collect in the cut-off bottle. When I finish vacuuming a car, I slide the cork-bottle up and the oil runs back down in the compressor. You're right, the compressor does get pretty hot but it still works okay; probably because it doesn't generate as much heat as an AC compressor. Think I'll just save the compressor and if the one I'm using goes bad I'll try using it. Guess it could be immersed in a water bath to get rid of the heat. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions
You were dressing in women's clothing? (and hanging out in bars?) --R tom savage wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: you are one deeply disturbed young lady Yeah. Here's what the ladies and I did this morning: http://www.ksdk.com/video/default.aspx?aid=58983sid=129827bw=hicat=78 Fast forward to 1:37 Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
