Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
I love train travel - except for the schedule. To visit family in Ocala from S FL I had to ask for a car to be left with a hidden key for the 3:20 AM arrival and do the reverse for the 4:20 AM departure. That was not fun. Cheap, though, and a good book... BillR -Original Message- From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 12/17/07 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left Gerry... When the barometric pressure is just so, I can predict a snow (as tonight) in that I can hear the distant train. Nothing though can compare to the sound of the steam whistle on the locomotive. As a kid I remember trips on the Southern Crescent. I actually remember when it was almost as a term of endearment the porter was called George (Pullman). I remember, Passengers will please refrain from using toilet when the train is sitting in the station... Today AMTRAK doesn't compare... BUT... for $208. round-trip I can get to PENN in NYC. A good book and about 15 hours... From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:17:09 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left Blessings on you, my son! (-:] Gerry From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] There for a moment I thought you were breaking the news that you are a priest. . On Dec 16, 2007 7:00 AM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This picture of my father, R.M.Archer, was probably taken sometime before WW-1. Since he was wearing a uniform, (4th from left) he was probably working as a conductor on that run. It appears that the picture was taken inside the railroad shops which were in Huntingburg, Indiana during that era. The engines that I remember as a child during the 1930s were much larger than this one. Gerry -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 33969 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071216/5b3 065f5/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 2:51 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SFO fleetweek '07
Nice work. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:54 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] SFO fleetweek '07 http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1a/ Be sure to check the video link on the last page. RLE ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
Gerry - is that First Christian as in the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) [I attend one of those], or one of the independents? BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of archer Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left Gerry... When the barometric pressure is just so, I can predict a snow (as tonight) in that I can hear the distant train. Nothing though can compare to the sound of the steam whistle on the locomotive. Yeah, that's the lonesomest sound there is. As a kid I remember trips on the Southern Crescent. I actually remember when it was almost as a term of endearment the porter was called George (Pullman). . I remember the name. Where did that train run to and from? We took the Chesapeake and Ohio from Louisville to Richmond to visit my sister. Remember the ads about the kittens, Chessie, and Peake? .. I remember, Passengers will please refrain from using toilet when the train is sitting in the station... .. The train crew would go around and lock them on my dads train (The Southern). .. Today AMTRAK doesn't compare... BUT... for $208. round-trip I can get to PENN in NYC. A good book and about 15 hours... .. Every time I'd have my wife in the notion of taking a trip on Amtrak, they'd have another wreck. Then somebody started calling it the Jumptrack and she wouldn't even talk about it anymore. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today AMTRAK doesn't compare... BUT... for $208. round-trip I can get to PENN in NYC. A good book and about 15 hours... . Are the seats as scrunched up as those on buses and planes, or do you have adequate arm and leg room? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
Interesting - We've owned one new car in the 30+ years we've been married, and take at least a 4000+ mile trip every summer. The only time we've had to stop and have a car repaired was on the new car (the Plymouth van), during it's last six months of warranty - fuel pump died on I-90 at the MN/WI border. The old MBs have never let us down. YMMV. ___ That's an idea. The reason I was thinking about a new car was because of the warrantee which would cover the car on out-of-town trips, and because; being a new car; it would be less likely to break down with minor or major problems. I read someplace that VW wouldn't be selling any diesels in the U.S. until around May '08 because of pollution equipment issues. Thanks, John. Gerry -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator
I did a little experiment yesterday, only as an experiment. I made a patch cable so to speak out of 2 computer power cords. Backfed it into one of the outlets and had lights to half the house. Tried another outlet and had lights to the other half of the house. Wonder why it only would do half? I only did this for a minute or 2 to see what would happen, but the cord I made was too lightweight and got somewhat warm. Anyway, just a little experiment when I was bored --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator Dad was a retired electrical contractor then county electrical inspector for 15 years until he retired again. I've been licensed for twenty years. We share a lot of interesting stories. One FAVORITE is when we're in Home Depot or Lowes and overhear a homeowner asking one of the guys who work in the electrical department electrical advice usually the first thing they say is, Your not planning on having it inspected are you? Then I'd do... From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 12:37:47 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator The other day I was in Lowes getting something in the electrical aisle. This woman says to me, You look like you know what you are doing. (Disclaimer -- she was older and not very attractive, to me anyway) I say, Well maybe! She then says she is looking for an extension cord to plug into her outdoor Christmas lights that has prongs on it, to fit into something like this which was a female end of an extension cord. So I asked her why she needed that. She says, well the light strings have these kinds of plugs on the end and I need to hook them up to the power. So I tell her that the other end of the string has one of these on it, showing her the male end of the ext cord. She says, It does? I say, yeah, thats how you strung them together. You need to reverse the string, or plug them in at the other end. Oh she says maybe so, but I still need this other kind to hook them up. Uh no I tell her again, you make something like that and you will fry yourself when you go to plug it in as the electrical power will now be exposed, and it will get wet and make everything around it electrified so your dog and mailman and anything else will get fried too. oh she says again, unconvinced, and keeps looking while I go off. Free advice, worth every penny! --R Jim Cathey wrote: NOBODY makes/sells what you need to mis-use a drier outlet as a power input point. My nickname for those such cables I have (which I have made myself) is Pins-O-Death. I hope that gives you an idea of what they look like. Male pins on both ends. Very dangerous unless you are very cautious about exactly how you use it. For obvious reasons, no sue-able commercial entity will so expose themselves. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] diesel
So the other day diesel was down to 2.99. Today its back up to 3.15. WTF? Gas has not moved. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: You might be.....
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: [MBZ] You might be. Subject: You might be... You Might Be a Member of the Taliban or Al Qaeda if... 10. You refine heroin for a living, but you have a moral objection to beer. 9. You own a $300 machine gun and a $5,000 rocket launcher, but you can't afford shoes. 8. You have more wives than teeth. 7. You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof and suicide. 6. You can't think of anyone you HAVEN'T declared Jihad against. 5. You consider television dangerous, but routinely carry ammunition in your robe. 4. You've never been asked, Does this burka make my ass look fat? 3. You were amazed to discover that cell phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs. 2. You've never uttered the phrase, I love what you've done with your cave. 1. You wipe your butt with your bare left hand, but consider bacon unclean ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SFO fleetweek '07
Thanks for that, it was wonderful. Pete, at home recuperating On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:54:24 EST, you wrote: http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1a/ Be sure to check the video link on the last page. RLE ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
No kidding --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD! No doubt the cost of the plane fare would have paid for the vehicle... From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:53:21 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD! Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Damn If only you'd known in time for Regina and the Urchins (is that a good name for a band?) to take an Amtrak down to RI and drive it home... They'd see more of the country from the road than from the air. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
Be very careful of old Eagles I'm interested in a bus conversation to retire in, I've done a bunch of research. Old Eagles were grand units, unfortunately most of the now have terminal rust on internal framework. Many folks have been badly burned spending 100K to convert one to a motor home before finding this out! Better choice: Later M.C.I. Pete On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:10:11 -0500, you wrote: I so love steam and really love the smell of coal burning. Just the same I love the smell of diesel. My very few experiences on a Trailways I confused the smell of the blue water (toilet). A dream of mine is to own an old Eagle coach. From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:48:32 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left It seems than at Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:13:00 -0500, Timothy wrote: Gerry... When the barometric pressure is just so, I can predict a snow (as tonight) in that I can hear the distant train. Nothing though can compare to the sound of the steam whistle on the locomotive. Aaah, yes. The mid-west has a few farm reunion weekend show things. Old Threshers in IA is especially well known. In MO, there's the Missouri River Valley Steam Engine Association Back to the Farm Reunion that is held every year the weekend after Memorial day just off of I-70 about 30 miles west of Columbia. At noon, all the running steam traction engines sound off their whistles. It's not a train, but it's steam! I remember, Passengers will please refrain from using toilet when the train is sitting in the station... Just 10 years ago that was still true in India... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LT Don's new? car?
oh geez --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Luther - laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] LT Don's new? car? You have a deal if I bring your step-daughter home with me :D Luther On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:11:59 -0600, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't you drive that to Iowa (w/ title) and take the Quantum home? grin On Dec 16, 2007 4:58 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, here's a cheap gas winter beater http://www.gulseth.net/Doncar/index.html -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (170 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
No, she bought a round trip for her when she was going up there on short notice. Then when she couldnt go back on time she had to just eat the trip back and get 4 short notice one ways for the way back. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD! Timothy Robinson wrote: No doubt the cost of the plane fare would have paid for the vehicle... Three short-notice one-way tickets ain't cheap. (unless Regina bought two one ways for herself, then the car could have saved four tickets) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] People are stupid
That sounds like something Jabba would say --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] People are stupid Like the kid in the Bruce Willis move who said, I see dead people I see stupid people. They are everywhere. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:51 PM To: Banned List; mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] People are stupid So I have this guy who is needing a refund but it hit the fan so to speak before I could get it done (no power and all). This is big news all over the country. So while the power is out the guy sends several emails a day wondering where his refund his. So I got gen power and got mail yesterday and sent the guy his refund and told him I was sorry he had to wait a few days but he must not have noticed on the news that the whole state of OK just about is out of power. Never responded with a thanks for the refund or anything. Geez. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
Check out Blue Birds I loved mine when I had it. :) -- From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left Be very careful of old Eagles I'm interested in a bus conversation to retire in, I've done a bunch of research. Old Eagles were grand units, unfortunately most of the now have terminal rust on internal framework. Many folks have been badly burned spending 100K to convert one to a motor home before finding this out! Better choice: Later M.C.I. Pete On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:10:11 -0500, you wrote: I so love steam and really love the smell of coal burning. Just the same I love the smell of diesel. My very few experiences on a Trailways I confused the smell of the blue water (toilet). A dream of mine is to own an old Eagle coach. From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:48:32 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left It seems than at Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:13:00 -0500, Timothy wrote: Gerry... When the barometric pressure is just so, I can predict a snow (as tonight) in that I can hear the distant train. Nothing though can compare to the sound of the steam whistle on the locomotive. Aaah, yes. The mid-west has a few farm reunion weekend show things. Old Threshers in IA is especially well known. In MO, there's the Missouri River Valley Steam Engine Association Back to the Farm Reunion that is held every year the weekend after Memorial day just off of I-70 about 30 miles west of Columbia. At noon, all the running steam traction engines sound off their whistles. It's not a train, but it's steam! I remember, Passengers will please refrain from using toilet when the train is sitting in the station... Just 10 years ago that was still true in India... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
Damn, Damn Damn --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD! Just got a reply from the seller-he sold it today. :-( Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator
outlets and had lights to half the house. Tried another outlet and had lights to the other half of the house. Wonder why it only would do half? Because the typical US home is fed with 240V, center-tapped off the supply transformer. That gives you two 120V halves of the house. You happened to use one outlet on each (electrical) side. Adjacent breakers in the fuse panel tap alternate halves. That's why 240V breakers are double-high, they pick up both halves together. That's why back-feeding one of the 240V outlets gets it all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SFO fleetweek '07
Incredible shots. Thanks BillR Jacksonville FL Kids in the USAF and USCG -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:54 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] SFO fleetweek '07 http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1a/ Be sure to check the video link on the last page. RLE ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Today AMTRAK doesn't compare... BUT... for $208. round-trip I can get to PENN in NYC. A good book and about 15 hours... IF there are no breakdowns, the train doesn't hit a car, etc. I've ridden AMTRAK a few times and it exception they have been the worst travel experiences I've ever had. I like the idea of train travel, but AMTRAK sucks. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator
AH HA. Thats kind of what I was thinking. The neighbor next door wired their gen into the house and I was sort of looking at it and it looks like they replaced one of the outlets in their garage with a 240 or whatever drier type outlet. IIRC, the regular house outlets with 2 outlets have 2 sets of wires. I assume they would have wired both sets of wires into the same drier type outlet? Is that what the 4 prongs are on those? Sorry, I am completely electrical stupid. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator outlets and had lights to half the house. Tried another outlet and had lights to the other half of the house. Wonder why it only would do half? Because the typical US home is fed with 240V, center-tapped off the supply transformer. That gives you two 120V halves of the house. You happened to use one outlet on each (electrical) side. Adjacent breakers in the fuse panel tap alternate halves. That's why 240V breakers are double-high, they pick up both halves together. That's why back-feeding one of the 240V outlets gets it all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator
If you are not planning to have it inspected you can use 3 wires. Hot, Hot, Neutral. Throw in a ground to be safer and legal if you want. -Dave Walton On Dec 17, 2007 9:23 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AH HA. Thats kind of what I was thinking. The neighbor next door wired their gen into the house and I was sort of looking at it and it looks like they replaced one of the outlets in their garage with a 240 or whatever drier type outlet. IIRC, the regular house outlets with 2 outlets have 2 sets of wires. I assume they would have wired both sets of wires into the same drier type outlet? Is that what the 4 prongs are on those? Sorry, I am completely electrical stupid. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator outlets and had lights to half the house. Tried another outlet and had lights to the other half of the house. Wonder why it only would do half? Because the typical US home is fed with 240V, center-tapped off the supply transformer. That gives you two 120V halves of the house. You happened to use one outlet on each (electrical) side. Adjacent breakers in the fuse panel tap alternate halves. That's why 240V breakers are double-high, they pick up both halves together. That's why back-feeding one of the 240V outlets gets it all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
Second sentence should say WITHOUT exception... Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IF there are no breakdowns, the train doesn't hit a car, etc. I've ridden AMTRAK a few times and it exception they have been the worst travel experiences I've ever had. I like the idea of train travel, but AMTRAK sucks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gerry - is that First Christian as in the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) [I attend one of those], or one of the independents? BillR Jacksonville FL ... The history of the First Christian Church/Disciples of Christ/Churchs of Christ is somewhat confusing: In 1906, the groups split; Stone's followers became officially known as the Christian Church, or Disciples of Christ while Campbell's group became known as the Churches of Christ (non-instrumental). A further division occurred in 1968 with the restructuring of the Christian Church into the Christian Church/churches of Christ and the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ). The Disciples became more centralized once again as a denominationsnip http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/restor3.html When I married a Presbyterian, I attended that church with her and lost track of what was going on in the First Christian denominations. My aunt was very active in a First Christian Church in our home town in Indiana (3000 population) and I enjoyed going to it as a kid. The people and the services were quiet and fairly unemotional compared to some of the other churchs in town. I remember one time when a lady got mad at someone or something in the Baptist Church she had been attending and joined our little First Christian Church. Everything was fine for a few Sundays until the preacher gave a pretty dramatic sermon. Right in the middle of it this lady came out with a very loud Hallelujah! Everybody froze, the preacher completely forgot his sermon and finally called for the hymn beginning the next part of the service. The lady came a few more times, and then I think she went back to the Baptist Church. When I went back to the old home town several years ago, the small First Christian Church had been torn down and a larger Church of Christ had been built in its place, so I don't know if that little church was part of the Christian Church/Churches of Christ or the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ). I could be happy attending nearly any Christian church, I believe, except perhaps the ones where they handle snakes. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator
You also need a generator that is wired for 240 VAC, center tapped and the center tap goes to ground (neutral). If you don't wire the center tap to ground correctly then an unbalanced load will burn some lights dim burn some lights out. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator AH HA. Thats kind of what I was thinking. The neighbor next door wired their gen into the house and I was sort of looking at it and it looks like they replaced one of the outlets in their garage with a 240 or whatever drier type outlet. IIRC, the regular house outlets with 2 outlets have 2 sets of wires. I assume they would have wired both sets of wires into the same drier type outlet? Is that what the 4 prongs are on those? Sorry, I am completely electrical stupid. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator outlets and had lights to half the house. Tried another outlet and had lights to the other half of the house. Wonder why it only would do half? Because the typical US home is fed with 240V, center-tapped off the supply transformer. That gives you two 120V halves of the house. You happened to use one outlet on each (electrical) side. Adjacent breakers in the fuse panel tap alternate halves. That's why 240V breakers are double-high, they pick up both halves together. That's why back-feeding one of the 240V outlets gets it all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
OKJ so I have to tell another story. Right after I got married we went to a (wife's) family reunion, mostly for her parents to show us off to everyone, a large family. We hung around, had some food (no adult beverages, boo). We were sitting there at a picnic table, and next to us at another picnic table (you know the standard kind, with the benches on either side, kinda A frame design), with two VERY large aunties sitting on one side, and 2 or 3 others sitting on the other side. So the 2 or 3 others decide to get up and go get some more food, and when the last one raises up, the two large aunties tip the table, they go ass over and all the stuff on the table piles onto them. Of course I started laughing like hell, which signaled our visit to the picnic was about over as it drew looks of disgust from the rest of the attendees who felt badly for the poor dears. It was also pretty funny to watch them trying to extricate themselves and roll around trying to get up. My bad! --R Timothy Robinson wrote: I've seen too many of them park on a slope at a family picnic and have the door drag them out of the seat when they opened it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
Ditto ditto ditto Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:11 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD! Damn, Damn Damn --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD! Just got a reply from the seller-he sold it today. :-( Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
That probably depends on how well you keep your Mercedes repaired. I probably try to get too many miles out of every part; waiting until they go bad before replacing them. After a few other things in the shop are completed, I plan to spend some money and update the 300D for road trips. The 240D is in good shape, but it's not too good in the mountains. Nevertheless, a new car is tempting; if for no other reason than it being a new kind of toy (with all kinds of cool electronics) to play with. (-:] Gerry Interesting - We've owned one new car in the 30+ years we've been married, and take at least a 4000+ mile trip every summer. The only time we've had to stop and have a car repaired was on the new car (the Plymouth van), during it's last six months of warranty - fuel pump died on I-90 at the MN/WI border. The old MBs have never let us down. YMMV. ___ That's an idea. The reason I was thinking about a new car was because of the warrantee which would cover the car on out-of-town trips, and because; being a new car; it would be less likely to break down with minor or major problems. I read someplace that VW wouldn't be selling any diesels in the U.S. until around May '08 because of pollution equipment issues. Thanks, John. Gerry -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 2:51 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gotta love MB
So the boy's car wouldn't start, diagnosed battery problem from afar. Told him to call 800mercedes, the guy shows up, gives him a jump, twiddles with the cables and tightens them, all is right with the world! No charge, only a sig required.. This being an 84, 6 months older than the boy. You gotta love MB. (Also a learning experience!) --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
Somewhere along about the Arkiesaw Tennessee border is a field next to the interstate with a bunch of old buses parked in it, one of them a Super Scenicruiser Greyhound. I bet you could get one cheap. It is just down the road from the guy with the Confederate battle flag, Aryan Nation flag, and US flags flying proudly. --R Timothy Robinson wrote: I so love steam and really love the smell of coal burning. Just the same I love the smell of diesel. My very few experiences on a Trailways I confused the smell of the blue water (toilet). A dream of mine is to own an old Eagle coach. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The good fight is over
While we are all in prayer mode for Kaleb and Regina and their families, let's add me to the list. My 86 father who had Dementia for the last 5 years , developed pneumonia on the 6th of December and died yesterday. He was a WWII B24 pilot and flew 18 missions from London to Berlin and survived. He had a massive stroke 2 years ago and not only survived but had a 99.9% recovery. The pneumonia he battled for 11 days but just couldn't beat it. He was married for 53 years to my mother. He knew 3 great grandchildren and knew of 1 great grandchild but really couldn't remember her. So I guess that's not a real bad life. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Sorry, Rusty. Celebrate his life. Be very thankful for a good life with parents who were around. I wish you peace. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List; Banned List Subject: [MBZ] The good fight is over While we are all in prayer mode for Kaleb and Regina and their families, let's add me to the list. My 86 father who had Dementia for the last 5 years , developed pneumonia on the 6th of December and died yesterday. He was a WWII B24 pilot and flew 18 missions from London to Berlin and survived. He had a massive stroke 2 years ago and not only survived but had a 99.9% recovery. The pneumonia he battled for 11 days but just couldn't beat it. He was married for 53 years to my mother. He knew 3 great grandchildren and knew of 1 great grandchild but really couldn't remember her. So I guess that's not a real bad life. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Sorry, Rusty. Celebrate his life. Be very thankful for a good life with parents who were around. I wish you peace. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List; Banned List Subject: [MBZ] The good fight is over While we are all in prayer mode for Kaleb and Regina and their families, let's add me to the list. My 86 father who had Dementia for the last 5 years , developed pneumonia on the 6th of December and died yesterday. He was a WWII B24 pilot and flew 18 missions from London to Berlin and survived. He had a massive stroke 2 years ago and not only survived but had a 99.9% recovery. The pneumonia he battled for 11 days but just couldn't beat it. He was married for 53 years to my mother. He knew 3 great grandchildren and knew of 1 great grandchild but really couldn't remember her. So I guess that's not a real bad life. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Rusty, I will remember you and your family. Not a bad run for your father as they say here in RI. I know the dementia is hard-my 87 year old mother has it and seems to have slipped more each time I come down to see my parents. . Take care of your self. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 10:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List; Banned List Subject: [MBZ] The good fight is over While we are all in prayer mode for Kaleb and Regina and their families, let's add me to the list. My 86 father who had Dementia for the last 5 years , developed pneumonia on the 6th of December and died yesterday. He was a WWII B24 pilot and flew 18 missions from London to Berlin and survived. He had a massive stroke 2 years ago and not only survived but had a 99.9% recovery. The pneumonia he battled for 11 days but just couldn't beat it. He was married for 53 years to my mother. He knew 3 great grandchildren and knew of 1 great grandchild but really couldn't remember her. So I guess that's not a real bad life. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Oh geez, Im sorry to hear that. My thoughts and prayers are with you today. Kaleb --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: [MBZ] The good fight is over While we are all in prayer mode for Kaleb and Regina and their families, let's add me to the list. My 86 father who had Dementia for the last 5 years , developed pneumonia on the 6th of December and died yesterday. He was a WWII B24 pilot and flew 18 missions from London to Berlin and survived. He had a massive stroke 2 years ago and not only survived but had a 99.9% recovery. The pneumonia he battled for 11 days but just couldn't beat it. He was married for 53 years to my mother. He knew 3 great grandchildren and knew of 1 great grandchild but really couldn't remember her. So I guess that's not a real bad life. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
They won't do that around here. I think you have to be within so many miles of a Stealership At 09:16 AM 12/17/2007, you wrote: So the boy's car wouldn't start, diagnosed battery problem from afar. Told him to call 800mercedes, the guy shows up, gives him a jump, twiddles with the cables and tightens them, all is right with the world! No charge, only a sig required.. This being an 84, 6 months older than the boy. You gotta love MB. (Also a learning experience!) --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator
Many of us down here in Hurricane Land have smaller generators with two 110v outlets. We buy a 50' or 100' roll of 12 gauge three wire house wiring cable, cut it in two, and put heavy duty plugs on both ends. We pull the main breakers and flip all the other breakers off, turn off everything in the house, plug the two extensions in what we hope are the two separate legs receptacles, and crank up the generator. A little experimenting with flipping on breakers and lights and such can verify that. We turn on refrigerators, freezers, fans, a TV, and the lights we'll need after calculating their wattages. We check for overloads on the (15 ga) outlets connected to the generator by feeling them occasionally. If they're running hot, we try other outlets or run an extension from a refrigerator or TV, for example, to a plug on the other leg. We don't try to run heavy appliances or even hot plates without turning off some other appliance like a refrigerator or freezer temporarily. With the long cables we can keep the generator far enough away from the house so there won't be a problem with CO. Gerry From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] You also need a generator that is wired for 240 VAC, center tapped and the center tap goes to ground (neutral). If you don't wire the center tap to ground correctly then an unbalanced load will burn some lights dim burn some lights out. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator AH HA. Thats kind of what I was thinking. The neighbor next door wired their gen into the house and I was sort of looking at it and it looks like they replaced one of the outlets in their garage with a 240 or whatever drier type outlet. IIRC, the regular house outlets with 2 outlets have 2 sets of wires. I assume they would have wired both sets of wires into the same drier type outlet? Is that what the 4 prongs are on those? Sorry, I am completely electrical stupid. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator outlets and had lights to half the house. Tried another outlet and had lights to the other half of the house. Wonder why it only would do half? Because the typical US home is fed with 240V, center-tapped off the supply transformer. That gives you two 120V halves of the house. You happened to use one outlet on each (electrical) side. Adjacent breakers in the fuse panel tap alternate halves. That's why 240V breakers are double-high, they pick up both halves together. That's why back-feeding one of the 240V outlets gets it all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 2:51 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No power
You're 38 minutes slow. Luther On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:55:33 -0600, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will send it to you. On Dec 16, 2007 7:10 PM, Luther - laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto for me? Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
Don, The water to steam conversion should hold in any case, and it should make a bit of difference though how much I don't know (my cars both diesel and gas seem to run a bit better with more power when it is foggy). The fog droplets are still water and when heated to above 100deg C will expand. Something like 10 times in volume I think. The steam that we see from a steam locomotive is that same high volume vapor recondensed to water droplets in the cooler, below 100Deg C, air after it has done the job in the cylinder. There were some steam locomotives that even collected and recondensed that used steam in the tender using big radiators. The water was then reused to produce steam again. The train didn't have to stop so often to get more water as only leakage had to be replaced. So as long as you can see it it can be heated and the expansion to a higher volume made use of. Probably more than anyone wanted to know about steam and water! Manfred Don wrote; Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:14:08 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not more oxygen, but more water -- adds to the pressure in the combustion chamber? Not sure that this holds when the water is already a vapor. On Dec 15, 2007 9:40 PM, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heck, after having been so dry with the mist/atmospheric conditions maybe there's more oxygen in the air and combustion was improved? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator
So 12 ga wiring would be heavy enough? I thought about buying some wiring and running the 2 110 outlets on the gen to 2 different outlets in the house. I pretty much know which 2 I need to power the whole house. I may do that today but not sure if I want to mess with it if the power is coming back in the next couple of days anyway. I suppose it might be worth it even with only a couple of days more. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator Many of us down here in Hurricane Land have smaller generators with two 110v outlets. We buy a 50' or 100' roll of 12 gauge three wire house wiring cable, cut it in two, and put heavy duty plugs on both ends. We pull the main breakers and flip all the other breakers off, turn off everything in the house, plug the two extensions in what we hope are the two separate legs receptacles, and crank up the generator. A little experimenting with flipping on breakers and lights and such can verify that. We turn on refrigerators, freezers, fans, a TV, and the lights we'll need after calculating their wattages. We check for overloads on the (15 ga) outlets connected to the generator by feeling them occasionally. If they're running hot, we try other outlets or run an extension from a refrigerator or TV, for example, to a plug on the other leg. We don't try to run heavy appliances or even hot plates without turning off some other appliance like a refrigerator or freezer temporarily. With the long cables we can keep the generator far enough away from the house so there won't be a problem with CO. Gerry From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] You also need a generator that is wired for 240 VAC, center tapped and the center tap goes to ground (neutral). If you don't wire the center tap to ground correctly then an unbalanced load will burn some lights dim burn some lights out. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator AH HA. Thats kind of what I was thinking. The neighbor next door wired their gen into the house and I was sort of looking at it and it looks like they replaced one of the outlets in their garage with a 240 or whatever drier type outlet. IIRC, the regular house outlets with 2 outlets have 2 sets of wires. I assume they would have wired both sets of wires into the same drier type outlet? Is that what the 4 prongs are on those? Sorry, I am completely electrical stupid. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator outlets and had lights to half the house. Tried another outlet and had lights to the other half of the house. Wonder why it only would do half? Because the typical US home is fed with 240V, center-tapped off the supply transformer. That gives you two 120V halves of the house. You happened to use one outlet on each (electrical) side. Adjacent breakers in the fuse panel tap alternate halves. That's why 240V breakers are double-high, they pick up both halves together. That's why back-feeding one of the 240V outlets gets it all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 2:51 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] generator
So 12 ga wiring would be heavy enough? 12ga is good for 20A. For 30A you need 10ga, but the house plugs would only be 12ga anyway, and trying to push more than 20A through would cause the outlet's breaker to pop. Plugging into a range/drier/welder plug is still superior. Tidier, if nothing else. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
ROFLMAO!!! Good one! Gerry .. - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] OKJ so I have to tell another story. Right after I got married we went to a (wife's) family reunion, mostly for her parents to show us off to everyone, a large family. We hung around, had some food (no adult beverages, boo). We were sitting there at a picnic table, and next to us at another picnic table (you know the standard kind, with the benches on either side, kinda A frame design), with two VERY large aunties sitting on one side, and 2 or 3 others sitting on the other side. So the 2 or 3 others decide to get up and go get some more food, and when the last one raises up, the two large aunties tip the table, they go ass over and all the stuff on the table piles onto them. Of course I started laughing like hell, which signaled our visit to the picnic was about over as it drew looks of disgust from the rest of the attendees who felt badly for the poor dears. It was also pretty funny to watch them trying to extricate themselves and roll around trying to get up. My bad! --R Timothy Robinson wrote: I've seen too many of them park on a slope at a family picnic and have the door drag them out of the seat when they opened it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 2:51 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Sorry to hear that, Rusty. My sympathies. Gerry . - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] While we are all in prayer mode for Kaleb and Regina and their families, let's add me to the list. My 86 father who had Dementia for the last 5 years , developed pneumonia on the 6th of December and died yesterday. He was a WWII B24 pilot and flew 18 missions from London to Berlin and survived. He had a massive stroke 2 years ago and not only survived but had a 99.9% recovery. The pneumonia he battled for 11 days but just couldn't beat it. He was married for 53 years to my mother. He knew 3 great grandchildren and knew of 1 great grandchild but really couldn't remember her. So I guess that's not a real bad life. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 2:51 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] starting craziness - help!
battery died on the SD yesterday. No problem, will jump it. 1) The terminals were NOT hooked up backwards 2) when I tried to start the car after attaching jumper cables, the instrument cluster lights did not come on until I was in the start position (the key that is)...no starting, no turn over - NOTHING...and you can't turn the key further TO start. NOTHING, NO POWER to ANYTHING unless the key is all the way in the start position. Accesory does nothing. When Key is all the way to start, windows, for example, work, but not in accesory position. Very strange - any ideas? I'm hoping a relay, perhaps? I checked and swapped around the ice cubes (not sure which ones do what) and that had no effect. Didn't check the other relays. Fuses are all fine. 3) 2 amp trickle charged for 7 hours and the same thing. Thanks much in advance! Chris -1985 300SD, 369K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -1975 240D manual, W115, Projekt-Wagen 1 -1980 300SD, W116, Projekt-Wagen 2 -1985 300Dt, W123, Projekt-Wagen 3 -1984 300Dt, W123, Projekt-Wagen 4 - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator
At some point I may replace one of the outlets in the garage with a drier type outlet for plugging in the gen. Better yet, next time wifes uncle who is an electrician is in the coutry, I might have him wiring in a proper switch or whatever. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator So 12 ga wiring would be heavy enough? 12ga is good for 20A. For 30A you need 10ga, but the house plugs would only be 12ga anyway, and trying to push more than 20A through would cause the outlet's breaker to pop. Plugging into a range/drier/welder plug is still superior. Tidier, if nothing else. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator
I've never heard of anyone having problems with the kind of setup I described. 12 ga cable is approved for 20 amps, so 40 amps between the two cables is really overkill for the light duty appliances that will be connected. The important thing is to keep the load divided between the two legs. Extension cords to switch appliances such as refrigerators, freezers, and TVs to the other leg is the way its usually done here. The problem, if there is any, would be the 14 ga cables feeding the outlets in the house; hence the reason to feel the plugs occasionally. Gerry .. From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] So 12 ga wiring would be heavy enough? I thought about buying some wiring and running the 2 110 outlets on the gen to 2 different outlets in the house. I pretty much know which 2 I need to power the whole house. I may do that today but not sure if I want to mess with it if the power is coming back in the next couple of days anyway. I suppose it might be worth it even with only a couple of days more. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator Many of us down here in Hurricane Land have smaller generators with two 110v outlets. We buy a 50' or 100' roll of 12 gauge three wire house wiring cable, cut it in two, and put heavy duty plugs on both ends. We pull the main breakers and flip all the other breakers off, turn off everything in the house, plug the two extensions in what we hope are the two separate legs receptacles, and crank up the generator. A little experimenting with flipping on breakers and lights and such can verify that. We turn on refrigerators, freezers, fans, a TV, and the lights we'll need after calculating their wattages. We check for overloads on the (15 ga) outlets connected to the generator by feeling them occasionally. If they're running hot, we try other outlets or run an extension from a refrigerator or TV, for example, to a plug on the other leg. We don't try to run heavy appliances or even hot plates without turning off some other appliance like a refrigerator or freezer temporarily. With the long cables we can keep the generator far enough away from the house so there won't be a problem with CO. Gerry From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] You also need a generator that is wired for 240 VAC, center tapped and the center tap goes to ground (neutral). If you don't wire the center tap to ground correctly then an unbalanced load will burn some lights dim burn some lights out. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator AH HA. Thats kind of what I was thinking. The neighbor next door wired their gen into the house and I was sort of looking at it and it looks like they replaced one of the outlets in their garage with a 240 or whatever drier type outlet. IIRC, the regular house outlets with 2 outlets have 2 sets of wires. I assume they would have wired both sets of wires into the same drier type outlet? Is that what the 4 prongs are on those? Sorry, I am completely electrical stupid. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator outlets and had lights to half the house. Tried another outlet and had lights to the other half of the house. Wonder why it only would do half? Because the typical US home is fed with 240V, center-tapped off the supply transformer. That gives you two 120V halves of the house. You happened to use one outlet on each (electrical) side. Adjacent breakers in the fuse panel tap alternate halves. That's why 240V breakers are double-high, they pick up both halves together. That's why back-feeding one of the 240V outlets gets it all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] starting craziness - help!
Christopher McCann wrote: Very strange - any ideas? I'm hoping a relay, perhaps? I checked and swapped around the ice cubes (not sure which ones do what) and that had no effect. Didn't check the other relays. Fuses are all fine. My guess is that the switch that the key tumbler connects to has broken. I think a new one is pretty affordable, but have no idea on how to replace it. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] More light in instrument clusters
I followed Craig's recommendation regarding lining the light channeling/piping areas of the instrument cluster of my W123, and the result is rather dramatic. I now have the instrument cluster rheostat turned down ~ 1/3 and the instrument lighting is still brighter than it was previously when the rheostat was turned all the way up. Other than breaking a few small plastic bits, as those buggers used glue where it probably wasn't required, this is a rather easy improvement. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
I can do it in 3 hours, $95. 1 1/2 good movies on my laptop or quality time with my Gameboy. I was doing it every other month for awhile there this year. Kinda miss it... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:13:00 -0500 From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Gerry... When the barometric pressure is just so, I can predict a snow (as tonight) in that I can hear the distant train. Nothing though can compare to the sound of the steam whistle on the locomotive. As a kid I remember trips on the Southern Crescent. I actually remember when it was almost as a term of endearment the porter was called George (Pullman). I remember, Passengers will please refrain from using toilet when the train is sitting in the station... Today AMTRAK doesn't compare... BUT... for $208. round-trip I can get to PENN in NYC. A good book and about 15 hours... - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] starting craziness - help!
Christopher McCann wrote: 2) when I tried to start the car after attaching jumper cables, the instrument cluster lights did not come on until I was in the start position (the key that is)...no starting, no turn over - NOTHING...and you can't turn the key further TO start. What if the switch behind the ignition lock is not connected solidly to the key lock? Didn't Chuck have a failure like that at Wonko-Q? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
I had two of those aunts. OY! Grace and Lura. Saying their driving skills were lacking is an understatement. Their kids just encouraged them to drive big cars for their safety and hoped for the best. Lura's son was with the state highway patrol and found a Ford Crown Vic with the police interceptor package at auction. The car was repainted a bright robin's egg blue. Stop signs and regulatory signs were only a suggestion for Aunt Lura. Luckily her range was only within a few miles of home, usually the local market and church on Sunday. She was given a wide path as she rounded off curves and ignored intersections. After all, she was in 90s. Grace was the older sister with the 1978 red Mercury land yacht. As she got older and too frail to manage the heavy doors on the coupe she traded for a new Cadillac V-8 with the Northstar engine. She sat at a stop sign looking left, right, left, right, anticipating to cross the main four lane highway. Just as the Dodge Ram passed and she floored the accelerator she realised that she hadn't noticed the $30,000. bass boat he was towing. She sailed through it, splitting it in half. The prize must go to old Hazel though. She had a little balding dog which might have once been a toy poodle. FeeFee rode in the car whenever Hazel went out. Hazel had knitted the dog a little afghan which matched the pillows in the rear window of the 70's Chrysler Imperial. Returning one day from the grocery, Hazel pressed the garage door control and proceeded to manuever the tank into the basement garage. She glanced down and discovered FeeFee was cold and had shifted positions. Fearing to pinch the little dog with the brake pedal Hazel reacted in a split second to step on the accelerator. The Imperial lunged forward taking out the hot water heater, the oil furnace and exiting the other end of the basement through the cinderblocks. From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:54:02 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD! ROFLMAO!!! Good one! Gerry .. - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] OKJ so I have to tell another story. Right after I got married we went to a (wife's) family reunion, mostly for her parents to show us off to everyone, a large family. We hung around, had some food (no adult beverages, boo). We were sitting there at a picnic table, and next to us at another picnic table (you know the standard kind, with the benches on either side, kinda A frame design), with two VERY large aunties sitting on one side, and 2 or 3 others sitting on the other side. So the 2 or 3 others decide to get up and go get some more food, and when the last one raises up, the two large aunties tip the table, they go ass over and all the stuff on the table piles onto them. Of course I started laughing like hell, which signaled our visit to the picnic was about over as it drew looks of disgust from the rest of the attendees who felt badly for the poor dears. It was also pretty funny to watch them trying to extricate themselves and roll around trying to get up. My bad! --R Timothy Robinson wrote: I've seen too many of them park on a slope at a family picnic and have the door drag them out of the seat when they opened it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 2:51 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] starting craziness - help!
Well the boy's car had loose connectors, he jiggled them but did not tighten them before calling for the jump. I think what happened was moving from hot Texas to cold Philly, and the temps dropping up there to cold levels, loosened them just enough that they were not making good contact to charge/start the car. The guy who came tightened them and jumped it, all was well. Also if that big battery is dead, it will either take some time to get it juiced up on the jump, or if it shorted or otherwise completely fried, it will just keep sucking up the jump power and there won't be enough to do anything else. --R Christopher McCann wrote: battery died on the SD yesterday. No problem, will jump it. 1) The terminals were NOT hooked up backwards 2) when I tried to start the car after attaching jumper cables, the instrument cluster lights did not come on until I was in the start position (the key that is)...no starting, no turn over - NOTHING...and you can't turn the key further TO start. NOTHING, NO POWER to ANYTHING unless the key is all the way in the start position. Accesory does nothing. When Key is all the way to start, windows, for example, work, but not in accesory position. Very strange - any ideas? I'm hoping a relay, perhaps? I checked and swapped around the ice cubes (not sure which ones do what) and that had no effect. Didn't check the other relays. Fuses are all fine. 3) 2 amp trickle charged for 7 hours and the same thing. Thanks much in advance! Chris -1985 300SD, 369K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -1975 240D manual, W115, Projekt-Wagen 1 -1980 300SD, W116, Projekt-Wagen 2 -1985 300Dt, W123, Projekt-Wagen 3 -1984 300Dt, W123, Projekt-Wagen 4 - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
Hmm, I wonder if they'd have given mine the strap? I got an appointment with the Indy as soon as I can get the car that. Blasted work, he could have the thing done today if I could get it to him! -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:16:22 -0600 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Gotta love MB To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed So the boy's car wouldn't start, diagnosed battery problem from afar. Told him to call 800mercedes, the guy shows up, gives him a jump, twiddles with the cables and tightens them, all is right with the world! No charge, only a sig required.. This being an 84, 6 months older than the boy. You gotta love MB. (Also a learning experience!) --R - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
I've toyed with the idea should one of those rust free W123s in Arizona look appealing! Nice thing about fares on the train is it doesn't seem one is penalized in buying a one way ticket. Brother recently bought airfare on short notice and found it cheaper to buy round-trip though he wouldn't use the return. From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:41:42 -0800 (PST) To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left I can do it in 3 hours, $95. 1 1/2 good movies on my laptop or quality time with my Gameboy. I was doing it every other month for awhile there this year. Kinda miss it... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:13:00 -0500 From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Gerry... When the barometric pressure is just so, I can predict a snow (as tonight) in that I can hear the distant train. Nothing though can compare to the sound of the steam whistle on the locomotive. As a kid I remember trips on the Southern Crescent. I actually remember when it was almost as a term of endearment the porter was called George (Pullman). I remember, Passengers will please refrain from using toilet when the train is sitting in the station... Today AMTRAK doesn't compare... BUT... for $208. round-trip I can get to PENN in NYC. A good book and about 15 hours... - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
I recently went from RI (Kingston Station -KIN) to Baltimore for 131.00 RT with AAA discount. Wonderful irony there. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:42 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left I can do it in 3 hours, $95. 1 1/2 good movies on my laptop or quality time with my Gameboy. I was doing it every other month for awhile there this year. Kinda miss it... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:13:00 -0500 From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Gerry... When the barometric pressure is just so, I can predict a snow (as tonight) in that I can hear the distant train. Nothing though can compare to the sound of the steam whistle on the locomotive. As a kid I remember trips on the Southern Crescent. I actually remember when it was almost as a term of endearment the porter was called George (Pullman). I remember, Passengers will please refrain from using toilet when the train is sitting in the station... Today AMTRAK doesn't compare... BUT... for $208. round-trip I can get to PENN in NYC. A good book and about 15 hours... - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
I think they would have given you the jump-I have called twice for 240D. Once I canceled as the campus police jumped me in the meantime. They sent an ML 320 full of batteries to sell if jump failed. If they can't fix they try to get you towed to their stealer base. Probably would have charged a tow for the strap. Where's your closest stealer up there on the frontier? Kind of neat. I call them over AAA just because of the service, esp. on an old diesel. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:52 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Hmm, I wonder if they'd have given mine the strap? I got an appointment with the Indy as soon as I can get the car that. Blasted work, he could have the thing done today if I could get it to him! -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:16:22 -0600 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Gotta love MB To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed So the boy's car wouldn't start, diagnosed battery problem from afar. Told him to call 800mercedes, the guy shows up, gives him a jump, twiddles with the cables and tightens them, all is right with the world! No charge, only a sig required.. This being an 84, 6 months older than the boy. You gotta love MB. (Also a learning experience!) --R - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Read and weep-300CD
The seller of that one here in RI just e-mailed me-he sold it for 750.00. One can only fantasize. (Or rationalize). Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Hello, Rusty -, I'm very sorry to hear of your loss. Dementia and the related Alzheimers are so devastating. Any disease that makes people forget the spouse they loved for a 1/2 century or more is so hard on those nearby as well as the one suffering from the disease - even if they don't realize it at the time. It's such a miracle that your Dad recovered so much from his stroke! - my Mom had a series of mini strokes and they did their damage. She lived with us for the last 10 years of life and my MIL lived with us as well. My wife is an angel - and it helps that she's an RN. She cared for my mom like she was her own - and the times my mom forgot who we were is a sad memory we'll live with forever. I am still amazed at the number of organizations around waiting to help us take care of the elderly. The local Hospice was very helpful during the final 9 months of my Mom's life. Debbie's Mom went much faster and was with us for a shorter time but it was a time we'll always be thankful we had \. Unfortunately, it;s something most of us will have to deal with sometime during the coming years --- Sincere Condolences -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 10:22 AM Subject: [MBZ] The good fight is over While we are all in prayer mode for Kaleb and Regina and their families, let's add me to the list. My 86 father who had Dementia for the last 5 years , developed pneumonia on the 6th of December and died yesterday. He was a WWII B24 pilot and flew 18 missions from London to Berlin and survived. He had a massive stroke 2 years ago and not only survived but had a 99.9% recovery. The pneumonia he battled for 11 days but just couldn't beat it. He was married for 53 years to my mother. He knew 3 great grandchildren and knew of 1 great grandchild but really couldn't remember her. So I guess that's not a real bad life. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 11:36 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
I discovered the local providers for AAA emergency roadside service DO NOT LIKE DIESELS! Flatly was told on the phone, We can provide gasoline but do not deliver diesel. They're also hesitant to answer a call in jumping a diesel. I can kinda understand as I remember those early 80s 5.7 GM diesels kept them busy with service calls. From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:05:29 -0500 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB I think they would have given you the jump-I have called twice for 240D. Once I canceled as the campus police jumped me in the meantime. They sent an ML 320 full of batteries to sell if jump failed. If they can't fix they try to get you towed to their stealer base. Probably would have charged a tow for the strap. Where's your closest stealer up there on the frontier? Kind of neat. I call them over AAA just because of the service, esp. on an old diesel. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:52 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Hmm, I wonder if they'd have given mine the strap? I got an appointment with the Indy as soon as I can get the car that. Blasted work, he could have the thing done today if I could get it to him! -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:16:22 -0600 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Gotta love MB To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed So the boy's car wouldn't start, diagnosed battery problem from afar. Told him to call 800mercedes, the guy shows up, gives him a jump, twiddles with the cables and tightens them, all is right with the world! No charge, only a sig required.. This being an 84, 6 months older than the boy. You gotta love MB. (Also a learning experience!) --R - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Chinese ATVs
Looking at a chinese ATV for kid's use. 50CC two stroke. Looks fairly well put together, good welds everywhere I can see etc. Less than HALF the price of an equivalent Yamaha or Suzuki. Since he'll outgrow it in a a coupla years anyway, seems like a good choice. Anyone have any first-hand experience with them? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Sincere condolences also! One can only celebrate a life lived well and full. Though the loss is quite real to us, we should hope to live such a long and honorable life. In the case of my grandmother who passed last June at 94 y/o, there are no regrets in the patience and love that allowed her last months to pass in comfort. As her body was frail and worn it seemed she was content to reach the end of her journey. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Sorry to hear of your loss, my prayers are with all his family. Thank God for him and others that were willing to climb in that plane time after time to help secure the freedom we all enjoy. I hope I get to go to his part of Heaven. Harry On Dec 17, 2007 11:24 AM, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sincere condolences also! One can only celebrate a life lived well and full. Though the loss is quite real to us, we should hope to live such a long and honorable life. In the case of my grandmother who passed last June at 94 y/o, there are no regrets in the patience and love that allowed her last months to pass in comfort. As her body was frail and worn it seemed she was content to reach the end of her journey. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fat Aunties
Here's one from the Mercedes List: Love, Pop . Right after I got married we went to a (wife's) family reunion, mostly for her parents to show us off to everyone, a large family. We hung around, had some food (no adult beverages). We were sitting there at a picnic table, and next to us at another picnic table (you know the standard kind, with the benches on either side, kinda A frame design), with two VERY large aunties sitting on one side, and 2 or 3 others sitting on the other side. So the 2 or 3 others decide to get up and go get some more food, and when the last one raises up, the two large aunties tip the table, they go ass over and all the stuff on the table piles onto them. Of course I started laughing like hell, which signaled our visit to the picnic was about over as it drew looks of disgust from the rest of the attendees who felt badly for the poor dears. It was also pretty funny to watch them trying to extricate themselves and roll around trying to get up. My bad! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Re; Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
Hi Gerry, The picture of your father shows a type of locomotive with a 4-4-0 wheel arrangement. These are usually known as an American. If you can make out the number on the front and the railroad name I might be able to find out more about that particular loco. Manfred Gerry wrote; Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:00:20 -0500 From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 This picture of my father, R.M.Archer, was probably taken sometime before WW-1. Since he was wearing a uniform, (4th from left) he was probably working as a conductor on that run. It appears that the picture was taken inside the railroad shops which were in Huntingburg, Indiana during that era. The engines that I remember as a child during the 1930s were much larger than this one. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another Generator Question
Should the generator itself be grounded? I can't help thinking that there should be a connection from the generator frame to a good ground. I have considered driving a ground rod in and either keeping a ground wire on it all of the time or setting up something that would permit a quick ground connection at either end. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chinese ATVs
Allan Streib wrote: Since he'll outgrow it in a a coupla years anyway, seems like a good choice. Anyone have any first-hand experience with them? Nope, but it's my guess that resale value is much less than half. I'm often stunned at the asking prices for TRX50, Kitty Cat snowmobiles, 50-80cc motorcross bikes, etc. I have no idea if they actually find buyers at those prices, or just took one hit too many on the crack pipe. If you intend to get rid of it in a couple of years, try to compare expected 2 year depreciation instead of purchase price. A good used Nipponese model might cost less in the long run. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hello Again
I have been out of my office in depositions about 22 of the last 30 days. I have been traveling to Chicago, El Paso, Mississippi (and a few of those places back and forth several times). At any rate, I have about a million emails to read and including TONS of emails from the Mercedes List. So, if any emails were directed to me personally, I apologize for not responding. I will likely not get through a lot of them. I was saddened to hear of Marshall's death. Most of you knew him much better and longer than I did through this list. His passing leaves a whole in the list. I also just learned of Rusty's father's death and offer my sincere condolences. I hope everyone has a safe and happy holiday. I hope to get back into the list discussions. (I don't have much technical information to help anyone, but maybe add some humor) By the way, I also note that there was an ongoing discussion about College Football which I also missed. As a Mizzou alum, I was, of course, cheering for my beloved Tigers. Mizzou RAH! Hopefully, they will put a hurting on Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl! Go Tigers! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
My sincere condolences, Rusty. I have the deepest respect for WWII vets, and it saddens me that so many are slipping away without their stories being recorded. Every time one passes on a little light goes out of the world. Sounds like your father will be remembered by you at least. That's the best thing you can do---preserve the memory of how he fought and for what. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Re; Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
Hi Manfred, The number is probably 3883, although it could be 3833 or; very unlikely; 3853. The third number is very indistinct. I used a powerful magnifier to look at it. Gerry --- Hi Gerry, The picture of your father shows a type of locomotive with a 4-4-0 wheel arrangement. These are usually known as an American. If you can make out the number on the front and the railroad name I might be able to find out more about that particular loco. Manfred Gerry wrote; This picture of my father, R.M.Archer, was probably taken sometime before WW-1. Since he was wearing a uniform, (4th from left) he was probably working as a conductor on that run. It appears that the picture was taken inside the railroad shops which were in Huntingburg, Indiana during that era. The engines that I remember as a child during the 1930s were much larger than this one. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The good fight
My sincere condolences, Rusty. We're losing too many of that Greatest Generation too fast, including 2 of my brothers. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Rusty, my condolences. losing parents can't ever be easy, especially to see them as their bodies deteriorate around them. it sounds like he had a full life, and at least now he isn't suffering. you're fortunate that you and the rest of your family knew him and had him as long as you did; remember him now as he would want to be remembered. at news like this, i like to remember what my Indian ancestors would say; those who we keep in our memories live forever. regards, e Rusty Cullens wrote: While we are all in prayer mode for Kaleb and Regina and their families, let's add me to the list. My 86 father who had Dementia for the last 5 years , developed pneumonia on the 6th of December and died yesterday. He was a WWII B24 pilot and flew 18 missions from London to Berlin and survived. He had a massive stroke 2 years ago and not only survived but had a 99.9% recovery. The pneumonia he battled for 11 days but just couldn't beat it. He was married for 53 years to my mother. He knew 3 great grandchildren and knew of 1 great grandchild but really couldn't remember her. So I guess that's not a real bad life. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chinese ATVs
Yeah the shop down the street I help out at sells some, ETON brand. They're okay but disposable, once something breaks you might as well throw it away, they are not made to be repaired. Resale value is very low because of the above. A good branded ATV kept in good shape will hold almost stupid resale value. As long as the kid doesn't trash it it'll resell for nearly what you pay for it. -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:15:45 -0500 From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT: Chinese ATVs To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Looking at a chinese ATV for kid's use. 50CC two stroke. Looks fairly well put together, good welds everywhere I can see etc. Less than HALF the price of an equivalent Yamaha or Suzuki. Since he'll outgrow it in a a coupla years anyway, seems like a good choice. Anyone have any first-hand experience with them? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Story of stuff
http://www.storyofstuff.com/ I'm fairly impressed with this, she's got good examples and cites some good sources. I buy alot of stuff used and I'm fairly disgusted with our consumer society. Its interesting to see these messages getting more common. -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Here is the best part. He flew 18 missions with 11 other planes in his formation. The MOST that ever came back was 6. He did it 18 times! No wonder he lived to be 86. I think that is the most amazing of all his WWII stories. Except maybe the ones about the nice English girls..oops, I forget this isn't banned. Sorry :) Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over My sincere condolences, Rusty. I have the deepest respect for WWII vets, and it saddens me that so many are slipping away without their stories being recorded. Every time one passes on a little light goes out of the world. Sounds like your father will be remembered by you at least. That's the best thing you can do---preserve the memory of how he fought and for what. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
My thoughts are with you and your family - I'm just happy to hear that he lived into his mid-80s and (seemingly) lived a full life. On 12/17/07, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the best part. He flew 18 missions with 11 other planes in his formation. The MOST that ever came back was 6. He did it 18 times! No wonder he lived to be 86. I think that is the most amazing of all his WWII stories. Except maybe the ones about the nice English girls..oops, I forget this isn't banned. Sorry :) Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over My sincere condolences, Rusty. I have the deepest respect for WWII vets, and it saddens me that so many are slipping away without their stories being recorded. Every time one passes on a little light goes out of the world. Sounds like your father will be remembered by you at least. That's the best thing you can do---preserve the memory of how he fought and for what. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chinese ATVs
Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah the shop down the street I help out at sells some, ETON brand. They're okay but disposable, once something breaks you might as well throw it away, they are not made to be repaired. Resale value is very low because of the above. A good branded ATV kept in good shape will hold almost stupid resale value. As long as the kid doesn't trash it it'll resell for nearly what you pay for it. As long as the kid doesn't trash it... that's the challenge... Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Rusty and Family. Please accept our deepest condolences. Another good man gone to his reward. Joanne and Fred Moir At 10:22 AM 12/17/2007, you wrote: While we are all in prayer mode for Kaleb and Regina and their families, let's add me to the list. My 86 father who had Dementia for the last 5 years , developed pneumonia on the 6th of December and died yesterday. He was a WWII B24 pilot and flew 18 missions from London to Berlin and survived. He had a massive stroke 2 years ago and not only survived but had a 99.9% recovery. The pneumonia he battled for 11 days but just couldn't beat it. He was married for 53 years to my mother. He knew 3 great grandchildren and knew of 1 great grandchild but really couldn't remember her. So I guess that's not a real bad life. Rusty Cullens ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Just curious, did your dad do any flying after the war outside of the military? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over Here is the best part. He flew 18 missions with 11 other planes in his formation. The MOST that ever came back was 6. He did it 18 times! No wonder he lived to be 86. I think that is the most amazing of all his WWII stories. Except maybe the ones about the nice English girls..oops, I forget this isn't banned. Sorry :) Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over My sincere condolences, Rusty. I have the deepest respect for WWII vets, and it saddens me that so many are slipping away without their stories being recorded. Every time one passes on a little light goes out of the world. Sounds like your father will be remembered by you at least. That's the best thing you can do---preserve the memory of how he fought and for what. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff
She lost me when she said 50% of the tax dollars go to the military ... not even close. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 13:39 To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff http://www.storyofstuff.com/ I'm fairly impressed with this, she's got good examples and cites some good sources. I buy alot of stuff used and I'm fairly disgusted with our consumer society. Its interesting to see these messages getting more common. -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Delta came calling but he promised his mother he would go to college as he was a small town boy (Wrightsville, GA, home of Herschel walker for you football fans) he was the only one in his high school graduating class to get a college degree. He met my mom in college so I am glad he didn't work for Delta! Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over Just curious, did your dad do any flying after the war outside of the military? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over Here is the best part. He flew 18 missions with 11 other planes in his formation. The MOST that ever came back was 6. He did it 18 times! No wonder he lived to be 86. I think that is the most amazing of all his WWII stories. Except maybe the ones about the nice English girls..oops, I forget this isn't banned. Sorry :) Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over My sincere condolences, Rusty. I have the deepest respect for WWII vets, and it saddens me that so many are slipping away without their stories being recorded. Every time one passes on a little light goes out of the world. Sounds like your father will be remembered by you at least. That's the best thing you can do---preserve the memory of how he fought and for what. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
I agree with Alex's sentiment about loses the WW2 vets stories - but there are some organizations that are working to preserve their memories. The Legacy Foundation is collecting Letters From Home from any and all WW2 vets so their words can be preserved forever. I plan to donate my Dad's letters to my Mom once I finish reading them. Both my parents are gone as is my only brother - so it really feels strange to be the only one left. Of course, my wiife and I have made some decendants oursleves but once your parents and siblings are gone it's a strange feeling - http://www.warletters.com/ Please don;t allow any of those precious letters to be thrown away - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over My sincere condolences, Rusty. I have the deepest respect for WWII vets, and it saddens me that so many are slipping away without their stories being recorded. Every time one passes on a little light goes out of the world. Sounds like your father will be remembered by you at least. That's the best thing you can do---preserve the memory of how he fought and for what. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 11:36 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Yea, Delta would have been cool though, or at least flying in general. I still want to get into it myself but not sure it will ever happen --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over Delta came calling but he promised his mother he would go to college as he was a small town boy (Wrightsville, GA, home of Herschel walker for you football fans) he was the only one in his high school graduating class to get a college degree. He met my mom in college so I am glad he didn't work for Delta! Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over Just curious, did your dad do any flying after the war outside of the military? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over Here is the best part. He flew 18 missions with 11 other planes in his formation. The MOST that ever came back was 6. He did it 18 times! No wonder he lived to be 86. I think that is the most amazing of all his WWII stories. Except maybe the ones about the nice English girls..oops, I forget this isn't banned. Sorry :) Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over My sincere condolences, Rusty. I have the deepest respect for WWII vets, and it saddens me that so many are slipping away without their stories being recorded. Every time one passes on a little light goes out of the world. Sounds like your father will be remembered by you at least. That's the best thing you can do---preserve the memory of how he fought and for what. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
My wife I were going through some of my dad's stuff last night and came across some of his dad's letters home when he was in WWI. He was in France across the big pond as he said in his letters. He wrote that he hoped she would get these letters as he was afraid he would never come home. How weird it was reading letters from my grandfather that I never met. Wow. Quite an experience. He was a mechanic in the Army (what a coincidence). He did obviously survive and opened a garage in tiny Wrightsville, GA. I would like to say he worked on Mercedes but that might not be all true. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over I agree with Alex's sentiment about loses the WW2 vets stories - but there are some organizations that are working to preserve their memories. The Legacy Foundation is collecting Letters From Home from any and all WW2 vets so their words can be preserved forever. I plan to donate my Dad's letters to my Mom once I finish reading them. Both my parents are gone as is my only brother - so it really feels strange to be the only one left. Of course, my wiife and I have made some decendants oursleves but once your parents and siblings are gone it's a strange feeling - http://www.warletters.com/ Please don;t allow any of those precious letters to be thrown away - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over My sincere condolences, Rusty. I have the deepest respect for WWII vets, and it saddens me that so many are slipping away without their stories being recorded. Every time one passes on a little light goes out of the world. Sounds like your father will be remembered by you at least. That's the best thing you can do---preserve the memory of how he fought and for what. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 11:36 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
LarryT wrote: I plan to donate my Dad's letters to my Mom once I finish reading them. Shove those puppies through the scanner and burn them to CD for the family archives. I'll have to ask my parents if their letters from Dad's Army days are private or if they are family history. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Flying rocks. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over Yea, Delta would have been cool though, or at least flying in general. I still want to get into it myself but not sure it will ever happen --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over Delta came calling but he promised his mother he would go to college as he was a small town boy (Wrightsville, GA, home of Herschel walker for you football fans) he was the only one in his high school graduating class to get a college degree. He met my mom in college so I am glad he didn't work for Delta! Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over Just curious, did your dad do any flying after the war outside of the military? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over Here is the best part. He flew 18 missions with 11 other planes in his formation. The MOST that ever came back was 6. He did it 18 times! No wonder he lived to be 86. I think that is the most amazing of all his WWII stories. Except maybe the ones about the nice English girls..oops, I forget this isn't banned. Sorry :) Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over My sincere condolences, Rusty. I have the deepest respect for WWII vets, and it saddens me that so many are slipping away without their stories being recorded. Every time one passes on a little light goes out of the world. Sounds like your father will be remembered by you at least. That's the best thing you can do---preserve the memory of how he fought and for what. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff
No, it's actually 51% when you factor in the ongoing military benefits1.2B total. On 12/17/07, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She lost me when she said 50% of the tax dollars go to the military ... not even close. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 13:39 To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff http://www.storyofstuff.com/ I'm fairly impressed with this, she's got good examples and cites some good sources. I buy alot of stuff used and I'm fairly disgusted with our consumer society. Its interesting to see these messages getting more common. -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
I took him to Peachtree Dekalb airport near here on his 80th birthday and he flew an old Stearman PT-17 trainer that he learned on. He flew about an hour, there was an instructor in the seat behind him. He had a ball. he couldn't quit talking about for days. That was fun. I have his original Pilot's Log Book. It starts with a piper Cub J-3, then the Stearman PT-17. Goes to a Boeing Kadet, a Vulte BT-13 then a Beech AT-10. from there he is in the B-24 till he got out of the service. He had 253.05 hours before he took over the B-24. It is a very interesting book to look at. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over Yea, Delta would have been cool though, or at least flying in general. I still want to get into it myself but not sure it will ever happen --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over Delta came calling but he promised his mother he would go to college as he was a small town boy (Wrightsville, GA, home of Herschel walker for you football fans) he was the only one in his high school graduating class to get a college degree. He met my mom in college so I am glad he didn't work for Delta! Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over Just curious, did your dad do any flying after the war outside of the military? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over Here is the best part. He flew 18 missions with 11 other planes in his formation. The MOST that ever came back was 6. He did it 18 times! No wonder he lived to be 86. I think that is the most amazing of all his WWII stories. Except maybe the ones about the nice English girls..oops, I forget this isn't banned. Sorry :) Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over My sincere condolences, Rusty. I have the deepest respect for WWII vets, and it saddens me that so many are slipping away without their stories being recorded. Every time one passes on a little light goes out of the world. Sounds like your father will be remembered by you at least. That's the best thing you can do---preserve the memory of how he fought and for what. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Having an evidence of portions of family history like that must be exciting. My family was either horrible about saving/documenting/telling stories or just didn't care about our history. Really creates a little void. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over My wife I were going through some of my dad's stuff last night and came across some of his dad's letters home when he was in WWI. He was in France across the big pond as he said in his letters. He wrote that he hoped she would get these letters as he was afraid he would never come home. How weird it was reading letters from my grandfather that I never met. Wow. Quite an experience. He was a mechanic in the Army (what a coincidence). He did obviously survive and opened a garage in tiny Wrightsville, GA. I would like to say he worked on Mercedes but that might not be all true. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over I agree with Alex's sentiment about loses the WW2 vets stories - but there are some organizations that are working to preserve their memories. The Legacy Foundation is collecting Letters From Home from any and all WW2 vets so their words can be preserved forever. I plan to donate my Dad's letters to my Mom once I finish reading them. Both my parents are gone as is my only brother - so it really feels strange to be the only one left. Of course, my wiife and I have made some decendants oursleves but once your parents and siblings are gone it's a strange feeling - http://www.warletters.com/ Please don;t allow any of those precious letters to be thrown away - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over My sincere condolences, Rusty. I have the deepest respect for WWII vets, and it saddens me that so many are slipping away without their stories being recorded. Every time one passes on a little light goes out of the world. Sounds like your father will be remembered by you at least. That's the best thing you can do---preserve the memory of how he fought and for what. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 11:36 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
cool!! --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over I took him to Peachtree Dekalb airport near here on his 80th birthday and he flew an old Stearman PT-17 trainer that he learned on. He flew about an hour, there was an instructor in the seat behind him. He had a ball. he couldn't quit talking about for days. That was fun. I have his original Pilot's Log Book. It starts with a piper Cub J-3, then the Stearman PT-17. Goes to a Boeing Kadet, a Vulte BT-13 then a Beech AT-10. from there he is in the B-24 till he got out of the service. He had 253.05 hours before he took over the B-24. It is a very interesting book to look at. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Rusty, Sorry to hear of your loss but at least he could talk about the war. All three of my Uncles fought in WW2 all three have been gone for a while now. Two of them told some great stories while one refused to discuss the subject. My youngest Son was on the ground during the last Iraq war - he supported one of the air wings. I'm just now hearing about some of the stuff he was involved in. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/17/07 01:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= My wife I were going through some of my dad's stuff last night and came across some of his dad's letters home when he was in WWI. He was in France across the big pond as he said in his letters. He wrote that he hoped she would get these letters as he was afraid he would never come home. How weird it was reading letters from my grandfather that I never met. Wow. Quite an experience. He was a mechanic in the Army (what a coincidence). He did obviously survive and opened a garage in tiny Wrightsville, GA. I would like to say he worked on Mercedes but that might not be all true. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over I agree with Alex's sentiment about loses the WW2 vets stories - but there are some organizations that are working to preserve their memories. The Legacy Foundation is collecting Letters From Home from any and all WW2 vets so their words can be preserved forever. I plan to donate my Dad's letters to my Mom once I finish reading them. Both my parents are gone as is my only brother - so it really feels strange to be the only one left. Of course, my wiife and I have made some decendants oursleves but once your parents and siblings are gone it's a strange feeling - http://www.warletters.com/ Please don;t allow any of those precious letters to be thrown away - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over My sincere condolences, Rusty. I have the deepest respect for WWII vets, and it saddens me that so many are slipping away without their stories being recorded. Every time one passes on a little light goes out of the world. Sounds like your father will be remembered by you at least. That's the best thing you can do---preserve the memory of how he fought and for what. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 11:36 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
My grandfather on my father's side was an engineer in WWI. My parents still have his uniform, flag from his funeral, a few photographs, etc. in a trunk. I have only vague memories of him. My condolences on your loss. Allan Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My wife I were going through some of my dad's stuff last night and came across some of his dad's letters home when he was in WWI. He was in France across the big pond as he said in his letters. He wrote that he hoped she would get these letters as he was afraid he would never come home. How weird it was reading letters from my grandfather that I never met. Wow. Quite an experience. He was a mechanic in the Army (what a coincidence). He did obviously survive and opened a garage in tiny Wrightsville, GA. I would like to say he worked on Mercedes but that might not be all true. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
Rusty, my sincere condolences for your loss. His story illustrates the courage and heart of that Greatest generation. I don't think Americans today can begin to appreciate the dedication and sacrifice of the WWII generation. At my father's funeral (he flew P-47s in China) his brother (Army Signal Corps) told me that my dad was the only member of his cadet class that survived the war. That's a far cry from the the world owes me a living attitude I see today. So remember your dad, often. He lives in your memory. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 13:45 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over Here is the best part. He flew 18 missions with 11 other planes in his formation. The MOST that ever came back was 6. He did it 18 times! No wonder he lived to be 86. I think that is the most amazing of all his WWII stories. Except maybe the ones about the nice English girls..oops, I forget this isn't banned. Sorry :) Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff
Well, according to http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2003/hist.html, The estimated FY07 outlays for Defense are 442B plus an additional 62B for veteran's benefits with total outlays at 2,467B. That works out to be 20% by my calculator. How do you come up with 51%? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Freer Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 14:35 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff No, it's actually 51% when you factor in the ongoing military benefits1.2B total. On 12/17/07, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She lost me when she said 50% of the tax dollars go to the military ... not even close. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 13:39 To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff http://www.storyofstuff.com/ I'm fairly impressed with this, she's got good examples and cites some good sources. I buy alot of stuff used and I'm fairly disgusted with our consumer society. Its interesting to see these messages getting more common. -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chinese ATVs
Not really, the plastic is expendable as are the tires. A trashed one is where the motor was run with no oil or it was full of water because it was left outside. In fact being left outside is probably the #1 killer of equipment. I've had some where the gas tank, carb, and crankcase were totally full of water. The battery was ruined because they'd run it down so many times trying to start the thing. Then it sat for like 6 months so everything could rust up. Then they wanted PREMIUM money because they'd brought the seat inside so it wasn't torn. Of course thats part of why the crankcase was full of water... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:53:59 -0500 From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chinese ATVs To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah the shop down the street I help out at sells some, ETON brand. They're okay but disposable, once something breaks you might as well throw it away, they are not made to be repaired. Resale value is very low because of the above. A good branded ATV kept in good shape will hold almost stupid resale value. As long as the kid doesn't trash it it'll resell for nearly what you pay for it. As long as the kid doesn't trash it... that's the challenge... Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff
One made up fact doesn't mean she's all wrong. I'm not sure she's even wrong on that. http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/ArmsTrade/Spending.asp - okay 41% but thats closer to half than a quarter. I don't have time for a big search... Anyway don't let that one bit put you off, remember how statistics get manupulated... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:07:22 -0500 From: Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii She lost me when she said 50% of the tax dollars go to the military ... not even close. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 13:39 To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff http://www.storyofstuff.com/ I'm fairly impressed with this, she's got good examples and cites some good sources. I buy alot of stuff used and I'm fairly disgusted with our consumer society. Its interesting to see these messages getting more common. -Curt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff
Not many thinks of finances this way, but most of the money spent on defense goes right back into our economy in the form of jobs, benefits, etc. In other words, it's not wasted. Also, military spending to reasearch new weapons, weapon systems and medical procedures have had a tremendous positive inpact on our standard of living. Much of what we call modern from plastics and lubricants through some fabrics are a direct result of Military spending. Two excellent examples are WD-40 and the insulating liner in your light weight winter coat. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/17/07 02:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Well, according to http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2003/hist.html, The estimated FY07 outlays for Defense are 442B plus an additional 62B for veteran's benefits with total outlays at 2,467B. That works out to be 20% by my calculator. How do you come up with 51%? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Freer Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 14:35 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff No, it's actually 51% when you factor in the ongoing military benefits1.2B total. On 12/17/07, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She lost me when she said 50% of the tax dollars go to the military ... not even close. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 13:39 To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff http://www.storyofstuff.com/ I'm fairly impressed with this, she's got good examples and cites some good sources. I buy alot of stuff used and I'm fairly disgusted with our consumer society. Its interesting to see these messages getting more common. -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:37:54 -0700, you wrote: Having an evidence of portions of family history like that must be exciting. My family was either horrible about saving/documenting/telling stories or just didn't care about our history. Really creates a little void. I have my Great Grandfather's Pistol, Sword, Cartridge Container, Belt and Buckle from his visit into the Virginias during the 1860's. We also have a letter he wrote during that time, witnessed a hanging. I want to donate to a museum in hopes of keeping it together. I've recently been told by a local historian the such collections are usually broken up and auctioned to pay o-head expenses. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator
Also consider using a non-contact thermometer to measure the temperature of the breakers in your circuit box periodically. A breaker will experience premature failure if it is operated at more than 85% of it's capacity. You can tell when that is happening because they heat up. In my experience, once they reach 100-110F for any length of time failure is imminent. My experience with this is limited to server room backup power supplies where we scan the breaker temperature weekly. -Dave Walton On Dec 17, 2007 11:24 AM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never heard of anyone having problems with the kind of setup I described. 12 ga cable is approved for 20 amps, so 40 amps between the two cables is really overkill for the light duty appliances that will be connected. The important thing is to keep the load divided between the two legs. Extension cords to switch appliances such as refrigerators, freezers, and TVs to the other leg is the way its usually done here. The problem, if there is any, would be the 14 ga cables feeding the outlets in the house; hence the reason to feel the plugs occasionally. Gerry .. From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] So 12 ga wiring would be heavy enough? I thought about buying some wiring and running the 2 110 outlets on the gen to 2 different outlets in the house. I pretty much know which 2 I need to power the whole house. I may do that today but not sure if I want to mess with it if the power is coming back in the next couple of days anyway. I suppose it might be worth it even with only a couple of days more. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator Many of us down here in Hurricane Land have smaller generators with two 110v outlets. We buy a 50' or 100' roll of 12 gauge three wire house wiring cable, cut it in two, and put heavy duty plugs on both ends. We pull the main breakers and flip all the other breakers off, turn off everything in the house, plug the two extensions in what we hope are the two separate legs receptacles, and crank up the generator. A little experimenting with flipping on breakers and lights and such can verify that. We turn on refrigerators, freezers, fans, a TV, and the lights we'll need after calculating their wattages. We check for overloads on the (15 ga) outlets connected to the generator by feeling them occasionally. If they're running hot, we try other outlets or run an extension from a refrigerator or TV, for example, to a plug on the other leg. We don't try to run heavy appliances or even hot plates without turning off some other appliance like a refrigerator or freezer temporarily. With the long cables we can keep the generator far enough away from the house so there won't be a problem with CO. Gerry From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] You also need a generator that is wired for 240 VAC, center tapped and the center tap goes to ground (neutral). If you don't wire the center tap to ground correctly then an unbalanced load will burn some lights dim burn some lights out. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator AH HA. Thats kind of what I was thinking. The neighbor next door wired their gen into the house and I was sort of looking at it and it looks like they replaced one of the outlets in their garage with a 240 or whatever drier type outlet. IIRC, the regular house outlets with 2 outlets have 2 sets of wires. I assume they would have wired both sets of wires into the same drier type outlet? Is that what the 4 prongs are on those? Sorry, I am completely electrical stupid. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator outlets and had lights to half the house. Tried another outlet and had lights to the other half of the house. Wonder why it only would do half? Because the typical US home is fed with 240V, center-tapped off the supply transformer. That gives you two 120V halves of the house. You happened to use one outlet on each (electrical) side. Adjacent breakers in the fuse panel tap alternate halves. That's why 240V breakers are double-high, they pick up both halves together.
Re: [MBZ] donations, was The good fight is over
Peter T. Arnold wrote: I have my Great Grandfather's Pistol, Sword, Cartridge Container, Belt and Buckle from his visit into the Virginias during the 1860's. We also have a letter he wrote during that time, witnessed a hanging. I want to donate to a museum in hopes of keeping it together. I've recently been told by a local historian the such collections are usually broken up and auctioned to pay o-head expenses. If you want to keep the collection intact, keep it yourself. I have an acquaintance who was on the board of directors of a craftsman's guild. When items were donated to the guild's museum that they didn't want to display, they sold them off and that provided a slush fund that the directors could use to buy themselves 'dinner meetings' at expensive restaurants. It may be possible to make a restrictive donation that prevents resale, but judges are often willing to break those covenants when a not-for-profit wants to sell items that they agreed to return to a family's heirs if they no longer used them for their original purpose. They did it to a Boy Scout campground near me ten years ago. BSA wanted money more than they wanted the land, so they got a judge to void their agreement to return the land to the donor's heirs, clear cut the land and sold the timber, then sold the land. After all, the guy who gave them the land in exchange for an agreement to give it back to his family if they no longer needed it was already dead, so what did he care? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] donations, was The good fight is over
More responsible museums will not auction your stuff but more responsible museums also have 2 - 5 items in storage for every item on display. In other words, your Great Grandfather's stuff will likely sit in the back somewhere. An option is to loan the items to a museum with the condition that they will be displayed as a group. This makes more since because the museum will tell you up front if they will be able to use your Great Grandfather's stuff. Also, you will be listed in the display as the owner of the items. Then, you could sell the stuff to a collector. I know someone who can help if you are interested. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/17/07 03:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] donations, was The good fight is over -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Peter T. Arnold wrote: I have my Great Grandfather's Pistol, Sword, Cartridge Container, Belt and Buckle from his visit into the Virginias during the 1860's. We also have a letter he wrote during that time, witnessed a hanging. I want to donate to a museum in hopes of keeping it together. I've recently been told by a local historian the such collections are usually broken up and auctioned to pay o-head expenses. If you want to keep the collection intact, keep it yourself. I have an acquaintance who was on the board of directors of a craftsman's guild. When items were donated to the guild's museum that they didn't want to display, they sold them off and that provided a slush fund that the directors could use to buy themselves 'dinner meetings' at expensive restaurants. It may be possible to make a restrictive donation that prevents resale, but judges are often willing to break those covenants when a not-for-profit wants to sell items that they agreed to return to a family's heirs if they no longer used them for their original purpose. They did it to a Boy Scout campground near me ten years ago. BSA wanted money more than they wanted the land, so they got a judge to void their agreement to return the land to the donor's heirs, clear cut the land and sold the timber, then sold the land. After all, the guy who gave them the land in exchange for an agreement to give it back to his family if they no longer needed it was already dead, so what did he care? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff
I watched it again. I agree that she makes some valid points; for example, consumerism is out of control (think I'll send the link to my stepson). But she doesn't help the message by using made up facts, particularly if they are not relevant to the message. Or maybe the real message is bigger than advertised? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 15:36 To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff One made up fact doesn't mean she's all wrong. I'm not sure she's even wrong on that. http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/ArmsTrade/Spending.asp - okay 41% but thats closer to half than a quarter. I don't have time for a big search... Anyway don't let that one bit put you off, remember how statistics get manupulated... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:07:22 -0500 From: Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii She lost me when she said 50% of the tax dollars go to the military ... not even close. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 13:39 To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff http://www.storyofstuff.com/ I'm fairly impressed with this, she's got good examples and cites some good sources. I buy alot of stuff used and I'm fairly disgusted with our consumer society. Its interesting to see these messages getting more common. -Curt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
