Re: [MBZ] 126 Going Green
Fred, The back one has an Italian flag on trunk-does mean it burns only EVOO? Well that green color makes me like all the greens we were discussing recently Wonder if it Is green driver training? Cool, Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Frederick W Moir Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:44 PM To: Mercedes Subject: [MBZ] 126 Going Green Hi, all. Saw these on the way through Salem MA. Outside a kindergarten in an old greenhouse. Fred Moir Lynn MA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car ID
Looks like a Smart to me Jim On Nov 15, 2009, at 8:42 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Not a Smart, is it? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Had another low-power episode, '87 300TD
Harry, I like it! Thanks for the idea. I don't think I'll need to use that now but will file it away for the future. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of harry watkins Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had another low-power episode, '87 300TD Max, when one of my SDLs had the dead bug problem I added a second clear filter. I teed in a parallel second filter and pinched it shut with a pair of padded vice grips. When the engine started to lose power, I just released the vice grip and went on my way. Cleaned both filters at my leisure and reinstalled. It took about 18 months for it clean itself up. Harry - Original Message - From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Had another low-power episode, '87 300TD > Dieselvolk, > > Third episode yesterday a.m. on the way to work. Same pattern: about 5 > gallons left in the tank, cold morning (cold for the Low Country, that > is, which is about 50 degrees). I have two new clear in-line filters > and one new main filter in the car (Thanks Gary!) so I decided to see if > I could make it to the parking lot at work, so I could change the > in-line filter during my lunch break. I was able to drive about 5 miles > and got within about 4 blocks before the engine died and would not > restart. > > Took me about 10 minutes on the side of the road, in a light rain, to > replace the in-line filter. Old filter was really plugged up with junk, > probably dead fungus/mold from the tank because I administered a dose of > biocide about two months ago. Once the air was purged, car ran like a > top again. > > I'm still planning to change the tank strainer, just need to get my new > E300 on the road first. More on that front in another email... > > Very respectfully, > /s/ > LCDR Max Dillon > '87 300TD 316k miles > '95 E300 274k miles > Charleston SC > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] free circuits
Allan, good stuff, thanks for sharing. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 6:51 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] free circuits This could be useful... http://www.free-circuits.com/circuits Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] guess Im going to have to pull the 140 engine
Tom needs to check with Rusty; I just got some a few weeks ago for my '95 E300. A few years ago when I replaced all the clips/shims on my '87 300TD, only one size was available (largest size) which you trim down to fit on the smaller clip locations. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:30 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] guess Im going to have to pull the 140 engine From: "Peter Frederick" > I got very close to having #5 and #6 grind through on my old car, > changed the lines when I got a head gasket installed. New ones > lasted a year this time The last injector line I ordered came from Germany. Took a long time. the rubber pads are (or were) NLA according to Tom at BuyMBparts, Inc. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] free circuits
I had a semester of antenna design in college. What I learned was that most successful designs were found by trial and error, and the theory to explain why they worked generally followed. The math in that class was too much for me, and I was happy to get a D (for degree!) and move on to something more suited to my lack of higher math skills... Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 5:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] free circuits Some former science teacher in Maine designed this one from various sources he says, posted it on instructables and Make highlighted it (this is an outdoor one, the one you are thinking of is for indoors). My antenna was a POS anyway, and it got whacked by a tree branch a coupla weeks ago, so it went from bad to worse. I figured with a few bucks worth of materials and junk I have laying around I could make a couple (he ganged 2, I'm gonna try that too) and see if they did any good out here in the woods. The hardware cloth is a reflector, and bending the fingers forward apparently lines them up with the angled reflector. I think antennas are all magic anyway, but I'll give it a try. When I get the other one sorted out I'll put them on the roof and see what happens. --R Dieselhead wrote: > Looks like an enhanced version of the Makezine one. What is the > theory/reason for the hardware cloth on the back? I don't recall the > makezine one calling for the coathanger sections to be bent forward. > Does that help? > > > On 11/14/09 11:09 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: >> Look what I built this afternoon -- a new HDTV antenna >> >> http://s707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/RTChoke/HDTV%20Antenna/ >> >> --R >> >> Dieselhead wrote: >>> Wow! the alarms, controls and timers part looks llike fun. It >>> could be dangerous! >>> >>> On 11/14/09 5:51 PM, Allan Streib wrote: This could be useful... http://www.free-circuits.com/circuits Allan >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Going Green
Thanks Fred, just ruined my breakfast! BTW, finally got around to installing that trim for my wagon hatch that you sent me. It looks much better now, but I've got to add a couple screws to the ends to hold it on where the clips broke. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Frederick W Moir Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:44 PM To: Mercedes Subject: [MBZ] 126 Going Green Hi, all. Saw these on the way through Salem MA. Outside a kindergarten in an old greenhouse. Fred Moir Lynn MA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mama's Benz got Max's bug
Rich, Every fall I treat my tank with diesel version of Heat to get rid of the condensate from the summer months, and if I notice any black particles in the clear filter I also treat with biocide. This latest episode is the first time for me, and I think it's because the car sat with very little use for about a year. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mama's Benz got Max's bug I guess its off to the boat store manana to get some biocide. Interesting too, it got cool the last coupla weeks, I am wondering if that made a lot of condensate that both Max and I (living in the same general area) had develop in the tank, making it a happy home for algae. I was thinking that gritty part might be rust, and thinking what it would do to injection pumps and injectors and cylinder walls --R Dieselhead wrote: > The slimy stuff is algae. the gritty stuff is not. In my experience, > the slime does not clear off screens/filters while sitting. I'd try > carrying a spare prefilter and main filter, and give it a shot of > Biocide at the shock treatment level. you may have a load of tank > rust that some station was kind enough to charge you for putting it in > your tank. > > One caution about that. Never buy fuel when a tank truck is > unloading, or you can tell has just unloaded. It stirs up all the > crud in the storage tank. > > On 11/15/09 7:25 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: >> Said her SD had been losing power, not getting up to speed, so >> yesterday I changed the in-line filter, took it out and was running >> fine. The filter had a lot of gritty sh*t in it, mixed in with some >> slimy black sh*t (BTW that word is a technical term). See attached >> pic. So then last night we head out to dinner up the other side of >> town and it was running fine, we get into town it starts not wanting >> to go 40. Then we get to the bridge (where Max had his troubles) and >> going up we slow down to like 30 then get over and make it to the >> restaurant. Head home later, running fine, we get about halfway home >> and it starts again not wanting to go over 40 then 30 then 20 then we >> limped into the driveway going about 15. I am guessing it is OK >> until it pulls enough nasty fuel into the tank filter to clog it up, >> then after sitting awhile it sloughs off? >> >> I guess I need to pull the tank filter and see what kind of nasty >> sh*t is in there. I am lazy so I will ask y'all how to get into the >> tank on a 126 and pull and clean the filter. >> >> --R >> - >> --- >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives >> http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] nice 1966 Mercedes 250SE
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Re: [MBZ] 126 Going Green
Ditto, I'm on dial-up. Harry - Original Message - From: "Craig McCluskey" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Going Green On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:03:11 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: nasty Indeed, the cars are quite nasty. But so was the 6.45 *** MEGABYTE *** email that sent them. I'm glad I switched to a speedier email account. Our old one, at 30 kilobytes/s, would have been very painful. Next time, please reduce them to something on the order of 1024x768 (which is about 175 kilobytes). That's more than large enough to communicate the atrocity that was committed in painting the cars. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mama's Benz got Max's bug
What's the best way to get at the tank internals? (I might be forced to look it up in the manual!) --R Scott Ritchey wrote: You'll probably need to clean out the tank too. I'm guessing the grit may be rust from inside your tank (or if you're lucky the station's tank). I got a bad load of diesel in my 126 300SD a few years back and had similar problems. The in-tank screen filter would gradually clog while driving and I'd lose power. After draining the fuel tank I washed it with a pressure washer shooting through the gage hole while the water and crud drained through the filter hole below. Then I dried it for a couple days using a shop vac on blow. But the once-shiny inside of the tank was dark and I suspect that was partly rust from the water. I also had to disassemble and clean the fuel gage (be very careful here) to get the gook off the wire and sliding contacts. All has been fine ever since so I'm keeping fingers crossed and I add biocide at every fillup. Scott -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 20:26 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Mama's Benz got Max's bug Said her SD had been losing power, not getting up to speed, so yesterday I changed the in-line filter, took it out and was running fine. The filter had a lot of gritty sh*t in it, mixed in with some slimy black sh*t (BTW that word is a technical term). See attached pic. So then last night we head out to dinner up the other side of town and it was running fine, we get into town it starts not wanting to go 40. Then we get to the bridge (where Max had his troubles) and going up we slow down to like 30 then get over and make it to the restaurant. Head home later, running fine, we get about halfway home and it starts again not wanting to go over 40 then 30 then 20 then we limped into the driveway going about 15. I am guessing it is OK until it pulls enough nasty fuel into the tank filter to clog it up, then after sitting awhile it sloughs off? I guess I need to pull the tank filter and see what kind of nasty sh*t is in there. I am lazy so I will ask y'all how to get into the tank on a 126 and pull and clean the filter. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] nice 1966 Mercedes 250SE
Nice. So it seems, by the sweetness of the randon Charleston CL postings, that the thing to do is fly back for the Navy base job fair thing and then drive a car home. Not that one, howeverzu viel Bob R On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1466816002.html > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Going Green
No worries, I have switched back to the old way. harry watkins wrote: Ditto, I'm on dial-up. Harry - Original Message - From: "Craig McCluskey" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Going Green On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:03:11 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: nasty Indeed, the cars are quite nasty. But so was the 6.45 *** MEGABYTE *** email that sent them. I'm glad I switched to a speedier email account. Our old one, at 30 kilobytes/s, would have been very painful. Next time, please reduce them to something on the order of 1024x768 (which is about 175 kilobytes). That's more than large enough to communicate the atrocity that was committed in painting the cars. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.707 / Virus Database: 270.14.67/2506 - Release Date: 11/16/09 01:43:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Becker radio illumination
Andrew, Send them to Ed Ebel at Becker North America for an overhaul. This is from the MBCA forum: --- Welcome to the All About Radios forum. This forum was created to allow the experts from Becker AutoSound to help you solve any radio-related issues you may encounter. These guys have several decades of Becker experience each! They can repair and refurbish "any radio with a Becker tag", from the tube-type gems of the 1950's to the latest COMAND system. They also offer competent service on BOSE amplifiers, most models of Alpine radio, CD Changers, as well as I-Pod audio input modifications for most radios. While they specialize in out-of-warranty older tube/transistor classics with all the knobs, trimplates, dial-scales and all... They also sell parts, and even have speakers for old SL models! ...and they are MBCA members and supporters! To contact the repair facility: Becker AutoSound 170 North Fifth Street Saddle Brook, NJ 07663 Ed Ebel = serv...@beckerautosound.com 201-773-0976 Tom Mitchell = classicserv...@beckerautosound.com 201-773-0977 Dan Antolino = pa...@beckerautosound.com 201-773-0978 website: www.beckerautosound.com General e-mail: bautoso...@optimum.net - Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Becker radio illumination I have a Becker AM-FM cassette like the one below. Two (?) bulbs are out so the middle presets and cassette door are in the dark. Not sure how to pop off the face plate, or if i did, what i would find. Ideas on how to fix? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-BECKER-BE-0780-GRAND-PRIX-002-82 0-38-86-RADIO_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem45ef38bf37QQitemZ300366217015QQ ptZCarQ5fAudioQ5fInQ5fDashQ5fReceivers#ht_500wt_924 Andrew 1983 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mama's Benz got Max's bug
Attached is an excerpt from the Chevron 2007 Diesel Fuel Technical Review which speaks to microbial growth (fungi and bacteria) in diesel fuel. Marshall Booth was fond of quoting from this, and the latest version may be available on Chevron's website somewhere. I had a tough time finding this in 2007, haven't tried to look for a newer version since. Entire document is over 2 MB, let me know if you'd like a copy and I'll send off list. Also attached is MB's Sheet 119, which explains MB's recommendations on use of fuel additives. This lines up exactly with what Marshall always said about additives (which I remember as "Don't use them unless treating a specific problem like water or microbial growth or gum deposits, then stop using as soon as problem is resolved"). Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mama's Benz got Max's bug Its gotta be sustained temps over 80 for the algae to grow. Even if the cooler weather cause water condensate in the tank, it wouldn't grow, unless cooler means sustained temps over 80. On 11/15/09 9:10 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > I guess its off to the boat store manana to get some biocide. > Interesting too, it got cool the last coupla weeks, I am wondering if > that made a lot of condensate that both Max and I (living in the same > general area) had develop in the tank, making it a happy home for algae. > > I was thinking that gritty part might be rust, and thinking what it > would do to injection pumps and injectors and cylinder walls > > --R > > Dieselhead wrote: >> The slimy stuff is algae. the gritty stuff is not. In my >> experience, the slime does not clear off screens/filters while >> sitting. I'd try carrying a spare prefilter and main filter, and >> give it a shot of Biocide at the shock treatment level. you may have >> a load of tank rust that some station was kind enough to charge you >> for putting it in your tank. >> >> One caution about that. Never buy fuel when a tank truck is >> unloading, or you can tell has just unloaded. It stirs up all the >> crud in the storage tank. >> >> On 11/15/09 7:25 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: >>> Said her SD had been losing power, not getting up to speed, so >>> yesterday I changed the in-line filter, took it out and was running >>> fine. The filter had a lot of gritty sh*t in it, mixed in with some >>> slimy black sh*t (BTW that word is a technical term). See attached >>> pic. So then last night we head out to dinner up the other side of >>> town and it was running fine, we get into town it starts not wanting >>> to go 40. Then we get to the bridge (where Max had his troubles) >>> and going up we slow down to like 30 then get over and make it to >>> the restaurant. Head home later, running fine, we get about halfway >>> home and it starts again not wanting to go over 40 then 30 then 20 >>> then we limped into the driveway going about 15. I am guessing it >>> is OK until it pulls enough nasty fuel into the tank filter to clog >>> it up, then after sitting awhile it sloughs off? >>> >>> I guess I need to pull the tank filter and see what kind of nasty >>> sh*t is in there. I am lazy so I will ask y'all how to get into the >>> tank on a 126 and pull and clean the filter. >>> >>> --R >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list >>> archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 87 300SDL, 87 300D, 81 240D, 200D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Re: [MBZ] Car ID
I stand myself corrected. It is indeed a Scion xD. http://www.scion.com/nextgen/ Tail lights and fuel filler match. Jim On Nov 15, 2009, at 8:42 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Not a Smart, is it? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] nice 1966 Mercedes 250SE
That's a very nice car, but the price is a little high for my budget Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] nice 1966 Mercedes 250SE http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1466816002.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mama's Benz got Max's bug
Too slow, they're now NOT attached due to Kaleb's change of policy. If anyone wants' them, let me know. Kaleb, any hope of letting mine through or are they gone into the ether? Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mama's Benz got Max's bug Attached is an excerpt from the Chevron 2007 Diesel Fuel Technical Review which speaks to microbial growth (fungi and bacteria) in diesel fuel. Marshall Booth was fond of quoting from this, and the latest version may be available on Chevron's website somewhere. I had a tough time finding this in 2007, haven't tried to look for a newer version since. Entire document is over 2 MB, let me know if you'd like a copy and I'll send off list. Also attached is MB's Sheet 119, which explains MB's recommendations on use of fuel additives. This lines up exactly with what Marshall always said about additives (which I remember as "Don't use them unless treating a specific problem like water or microbial growth or gum deposits, then stop using as soon as problem is resolved"). Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mama's Benz got Max's bug Its gotta be sustained temps over 80 for the algae to grow. Even if the cooler weather cause water condensate in the tank, it wouldn't grow, unless cooler means sustained temps over 80. On 11/15/09 9:10 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > I guess its off to the boat store manana to get some biocide. > Interesting too, it got cool the last coupla weeks, I am wondering if > that made a lot of condensate that both Max and I (living in the same > general area) had develop in the tank, making it a happy home for algae. > > I was thinking that gritty part might be rust, and thinking what it > would do to injection pumps and injectors and cylinder walls > > --R > > Dieselhead wrote: >> The slimy stuff is algae. the gritty stuff is not. In my >> experience, the slime does not clear off screens/filters while >> sitting. I'd try carrying a spare prefilter and main filter, and >> give it a shot of Biocide at the shock treatment level. you may have >> a load of tank rust that some station was kind enough to charge you >> for putting it in your tank. >> >> One caution about that. Never buy fuel when a tank truck is >> unloading, or you can tell has just unloaded. It stirs up all the >> crud in the storage tank. >> >> On 11/15/09 7:25 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: >>> Said her SD had been losing power, not getting up to speed, so >>> yesterday I changed the in-line filter, took it out and was running >>> fine. The filter had a lot of gritty sh*t in it, mixed in with some >>> slimy black sh*t (BTW that word is a technical term). See attached >>> pic. So then last night we head out to dinner up the other side of >>> town and it was running fine, we get into town it starts not wanting >>> to go 40. Then we get to the bridge (where Max had his troubles) >>> and going up we slow down to like 30 then get over and make it to >>> the restaurant. Head home later, running fine, we get about halfway >>> home and it starts again not wanting to go over 40 then 30 then 20 >>> then we limped into the driveway going about 15. I am guessing it >>> is OK until it pulls enough nasty fuel into the tank filter to clog >>> it up, then after sitting awhile it sloughs off? >>> >>> I guess I need to pull the tank filter and see what kind of nasty >>> sh*t is in there. I am lazy so I will ask y'all how to get into the >>> tank on a 126 and pull and clean the filter. >>> >>> --R >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list >>> archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 87 300SDL, 87 300D, 81 240D, 200D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Sheet 119 F
Re: [MBZ] Mama's Benz got Max's bug
Its back to the old way, the attachments are converted to links at the bottom of each email, all you have to do is click on the link to download the file. In some cases, when you download it, you have to change the file extension to the appropriate format, such as .pdf or whatever. Sometimes it changes the file extension. Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Too slow, they're now NOT attached due to Kaleb's change of policy. If anyone wants' them, let me know. Kaleb, any hope of letting mine through or are they gone into the ether? Max -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Becker radio illumination
?? I am looking for a 10 cent repair, not one that costs $295. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: > Andrew, > > Send them to Ed Ebel at Becker North America for an overhaul. This is > from the MBCA forum: > --- > Welcome to the All About Radios forum. This forum was created to allow > the experts from Becker AutoSound to help you solve any radio-related > issues you may encounter. These guys have several decades of Becker > experience each! > > They can repair and refurbish "any radio with a Becker tag", from the > tube-type gems of the 1950's to the latest COMAND system. They also > offer competent service on BOSE amplifiers, most models of Alpine radio, > CD Changers, as well as I-Pod audio input modifications for most radios. > While they specialize in out-of-warranty older tube/transistor classics > with all the knobs, trimplates, dial-scales and all... They also sell > parts, and even have speakers for old SL models! > > ...and they are MBCA members and supporters! > > To contact the repair facility: > > Becker AutoSound > 170 North Fifth Street > Saddle Brook, NJ 07663 > > Ed Ebel = serv...@beckerautosound.com 201-773-0976 > Tom Mitchell = classicserv...@beckerautosound.com 201-773-0977 > Dan Antolino = pa...@beckerautosound.com 201-773-0978 > > website: www.beckerautosound.com > General e-mail: bautoso...@optimum.net > - > Max > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:36 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: [MBZ] Becker radio illumination > > I have a Becker AM-FM cassette like the one below. Two (?) bulbs are > out so the middle presets and cassette door are in the dark. Not sure > how to pop off the face plate, or if i did, what i would find. Ideas on > how to fix? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-BECKER-BE-0780-GRAND-PRIX-002-82 > 0-38-86-RADIO_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem45ef38bf37QQitemZ300366217015QQ > ptZCarQ5fAudioQ5fInQ5fDashQ5fReceivers#ht_500wt_924 > > Andrew > 1983 300TD > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Becker radio illumination
How do I pop off the face plate? On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > I have a Becker AM-FM cassette like the one below. Two (?) bulbs are out >> so >> the middle presets and cassette door are in the dark. Not sure how to pop >> off the face plate, or if i did, what i would find. Ideas on how to fix? >> > > Disassemble sufficiently to gain access to the 12V grain-of-wheat > incandescent bulbs, and solder in new ones. Not pretty, I'm sure, > but probably quite do-able. > > -- Jim > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] nice 1966 Mercedes 250SE
I can't tell what color it is, or whether it has a SR or PW. Without either of these options, the vehicle is way overpriced. I'm willing to bet that the owner is a real jerk. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: > That's a very nice car, but the price is a little high for my budget > > Max > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:42 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: [MBZ] nice 1966 Mercedes 250SE > > http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1466816002.html > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mama's Benz got Max's bug
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Too slow, they're now NOT attached due to Kaleb's change of policy. If anyone wants' them, let me know. Kaleb, any hope of letting mine through or are they gone into the ether? Like Klebbie said, they are there, just tacked on at the end: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Sheet 119 Fuel Additives.pdf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 23117 bytes Desc: Sheet 119 Fuel Additives.pdf URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091116/18c902b1/attachment.obj> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Diesel_Fuel_Tech_Review[microbes].pdf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 50859 bytes Desc: Diesel_Fuel_Tech_Review[microbes].pdf URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091116/18c902b1/attachment-0001.obj> ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Becker radio illumination
I am looking for a 10 cent repair, not one that costs $295. Isn't one, quite, unless you've got a better source for little light bulbs than I've ever seen! How do I pop off the face plate? I don't know, I've never done it on that vintage. Grab screwdriver, cojones, and go at it! It might not be the faceplate you need to take off, anyway. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] nice 1966 Mercedes 250SE
I have seen a few postings over the last several months for "collector" cars that have been in storage, with similar kinds of wording in the postings, makes me think it is the same guy. A careful literary deconstruction suggests that your assessment is valid with a 90% probability. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: I can't tell what color it is, or whether it has a SR or PW. Without either of these options, the vehicle is way overpriced. I'm willing to bet that the owner is a real jerk. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] nice 1966 Mercedes 250SE
I think the 250SE owner is a litter mate of the guy selling the car with an AC that "blows ice cold". On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > I have seen a few postings over the last several months for "collector" > cars that have been in storage, with similar kinds of wording in the > postings, makes me think it is the same guy. A careful literary > deconstruction suggests that your assessment is valid with a 90% > probability. > > --R > > > andrew strasfogel wrote: > >> I can't tell what color it is, or whether it has a SR or PW. Without >> either >> of these options, the vehicle is way overpriced. I'm willing to bet that >> the owner is a real jerk. >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 Bumpers
Why can't you make some sort of adapter bracket? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of TE Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:30 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Bumpers Son of a... Well, what is my option then? Will European bumpers fit? TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Bumpers The old style bumpers will not fit. Not only to the frame horns differ significantly, the fender and radiator supports are different. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another 190e question - oil pressure sender
It screws into the bottom of the oil filter housing. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: "Jim Arnott" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:16 PM Subject: [MBZ] Yet another 190e question - oil pressure sender Where might the oil pressure sender be located on a '92 190e w/ a 2.6 motor? TIA, Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel - $1200 (Clover SC)
Looks someone was really hingry for a naugahyde sandwich. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:53 PM, WILTON wrote: > Yep, same one. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 6:12 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel - $1200 (Clover SC) > > > > looks like it here >> >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-Turbo-Merceded-Benz-300D-Turbo-Diesel-Rare-124_W0QQitemZ200405656735QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item2ea91ba49f >> >> Steve Bailey wrote: >> >>> No affiliation. Just thought I would share with the list. >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> 1987 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel, This is a great fixer upper. I bought it >>> from a friend that was in a tight to help him out. I installed 4 New >>> Goodyear tires, I have driven the car about 5 miles. I have no use for it >>> and I had to buy insurance and tag to get a title so I could sell it. I >>> have >>> about $200.00 worth of supplies, new door unlock buttons, sun visor >>> clips, >>> Mobile one syn Oil, Oil Filter, Diesel Filters, Air Filters, odometer >>> does >>> not work but it shows approx 171432 miles. If you need to see more >>> pictures >>> or want to come look please e mail me at dswestmorel...@bellsouth.net or >>> call me at 7074-913-2916 Willing to trade for a golf cart, gator, winning >>> powerball ticket, and of course CASH MONEY ( I HAVE CLEAR TITLE IN HAND) >>> >>> http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/1464543747.html >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.707 / Virus Database: >>> 270.14.63/2500 - Release Date: 11/13/09 01:54:00 >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK >> 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 >> 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro >> manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 tach inop
Yep, it was OVP. Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tach inop After delay of nearly a week because of rain, wind, etc., I finally replaced OVP in 87 300D a few min. ago. Battery out, easily unplugged old one, plugged in new one, battery back in; overall 'bout 5 minutes. Prob. seems to be fixed; didn't drive it; just started it coupla times. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tach inop 'Ordered OVP this morning. 'Drove car a few minutes about 30 min ago; tach, AC, ABS, idle all normal; pulled into yard, parked and shut down; restarted engine; tach, AC, ABS inop. and idle slow again. They often respond to removal, cleaning the pins, and replacement. The fuse on top, too. Only thing in most of 'em is a big zener diode and a relay, not much in the way of solder joints to go wrong. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 tach inop
Did you dissect the dead one to determine cause of death? Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tach inop Yep, it was OVP. Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tach inop > After delay of nearly a week because of rain, wind, etc., I finally > replaced OVP in 87 300D a few min. ago. Battery out, easily unplugged old > one, plugged in new one, battery back in; overall 'bout 5 minutes. Prob. > seems to be fixed; didn't drive it; just started it coupla times. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - > From: "Jim Cathey" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:22 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tach inop > > >>> 'Ordered OVP this morning. 'Drove car a few minutes about 30 min ago; >>> tach, AC, ABS, idle all normal; pulled into yard, parked and shut down; >>> restarted engine; tach, AC, ABS inop. and idle slow again. >> >> They often respond to removal, cleaning the pins, and replacement. >> The fuse on top, too. Only thing in most of 'em is a big zener >> diode and a relay, not much in the way of solder joints to go wrong. >> >> -- Jim >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN Rusty/Gary Divorce
Is Banned Lite vs. Banned like comparing a US presidential debate to a Q&A session in the House of Common? On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: > you are tired of songs? > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr >wrote: > > > Not here for sure. > > Tired of this. > > Dwight > > > > Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co > > Dwight E. Giles, Jr. > > Wickford RI 02852 > > -Original Message- > > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto: > mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > > On Behalf Of Gary Hurst > > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:23 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN Rusty/Gary Divorce > > > > i wrote a song about my feelings. where would it go? > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CASrZYn-zjo > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > > > > Gary Hurst wrote: > > > > > >> that's banned. he's asking about banned lite > > >> > > > > > > Banned is F-Bombs and Damie's homemade porn. > > > Banned Lite is Banned without the obscenities. > > > > > > > > > Mitch. > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Aquariums
Save yourself the heartbreak and adopt a couple kittens instead. I speak out of personal knowledge with fresh and saltwater acquaria, plus my ongoing experience with two affectionate 19 lb. Bombay cats (neutered male litter mates.). On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Donald Snook wrote: > Rich wrote: "2 friends of mine are fanatics, one has some huge saltwater > aquaria, the > other has 3 or 4 medium size freshwater tanks. They have both told me > what you want to know, but I forget what they told me. I can ping them > again." > > If you could that would be great. I would like to hear from somebody who > knows what they are talking about. The folks at the various fish stores are > pretty knowledgeable, but they are trying to sell me something. So, I wonder > about the advice. > > Donald H. Snook > McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. > 300 West Douglas > P.O. Box 207 > Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 > Tel. (316) 263-5851 > This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege > or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved > this message in error, please delete it and notify me. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 tach inop
Not yet. BTW, last coupla times I drove it prior to R&R, it was intermittent. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tach inop Did you dissect the dead one to determine cause of death? Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tach inop Yep, it was OVP. Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tach inop After delay of nearly a week because of rain, wind, etc., I finally replaced OVP in 87 300D a few min. ago. Battery out, easily unplugged old one, plugged in new one, battery back in; overall 'bout 5 minutes. Prob. seems to be fixed; didn't drive it; just started it coupla times. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tach inop 'Ordered OVP this morning. 'Drove car a few minutes about 30 min ago; tach, AC, ABS, idle all normal; pulled into yard, parked and shut down; restarted engine; tach, AC, ABS inop. and idle slow again. They often respond to removal, cleaning the pins, and replacement. The fuse on top, too. Only thing in most of 'em is a big zener diode and a relay, not much in the way of solder joints to go wrong. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE
Sunday I opened the sunroof to enjoy the beautiful weather here, and then while closing it stopped about 1/4 of the way closed. Fuse was fine, new fuse did not help, clicking noises from the motor/relay area but no motion. Discovered the manual closing knob/bolt/thing-a-ma-bob had been all buggered up by a PO so couldn't use that method. Neighbor came over to help when I asked to borrow his 6mm box wrench, which fits on the flats of the shaft left exposed with the thing-a-ma-bob wreckage was removed. While I worked the sunroof switch he gave it a little help with the wrench, and the motor came back to life allowing me to close the sunroof. So, time for a new motor/relay assembly? How much pain is caused by replacing that assembly? Anything else I should do 'while I'm there'? Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Max Dillon '87 300TD 316k miles '95 E300 274k miles Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE
I don't ever open either of mine. Frankly, I think it's bad engineering to have a perfectly good steel top, then cut a hole in it and install and unreliable mechanism which may leave the roof open for weather entry/damage, and then charge "customer" an insane amount for the "privilege" of having a hole in an otherwise good steel top.;<)) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE Sunday I opened the sunroof to enjoy the beautiful weather here, and then while closing it stopped about 1/4 of the way closed. Fuse was fine, new fuse did not help, clicking noises from the motor/relay area but no motion. Discovered the manual closing knob/bolt/thing-a-ma-bob had been all buggered up by a PO so couldn't use that method. Neighbor came over to help when I asked to borrow his 6mm box wrench, which fits on the flats of the shaft left exposed with the thing-a-ma-bob wreckage was removed. While I worked the sunroof switch he gave it a little help with the wrench, and the motor came back to life allowing me to close the sunroof. So, time for a new motor/relay assembly? How much pain is caused by replacing that assembly? Anything else I should do 'while I'm there'? Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Max Dillon '87 300TD 316k miles '95 E300 274k miles Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car ID
That is not a Smart. It's a 4-door and I've seen the rest of the photos some years ago. When the vehicles were separated, the young driver was revealed, torn in two and was a horrible mess as the close-in pictures show. The truck was hauling sugar cane and it's not in the US, maybe South America but I can't recall. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE
What happens if someone else uses your car and opens it and it jams open because of dis-use and lack of lubrication? For that reason I try to keep all the features in good operating condition on my cars. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 3:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE I don't ever open either of mine. Frankly, I think it's bad engineering to have a perfectly good steel top, then cut a hole in it and install and unreliable mechanism which may leave the roof open for weather entry/damage, and then charge "customer" an insane amount for the "privilege" of having a hole in an otherwise good steel top.;<)) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE > Sunday I opened the sunroof to enjoy the beautiful weather here, and > then while closing it stopped about 1/4 of the way closed. Fuse was > fine, new fuse did not help, clicking noises from the motor/relay area > but no motion. Discovered the manual closing knob/bolt/thing-a-ma-bob > had been all buggered up by a PO so couldn't use that method. Neighbor > came over to help when I asked to borrow his 6mm box wrench, which fits > on the flats of the shaft left exposed with the thing-a-ma-bob wreckage > was removed. While I worked the sunroof switch he gave it a little help > with the wrench, and the motor came back to life allowing me to close > the sunroof. > > So, time for a new motor/relay assembly? How much pain is caused by > replacing that assembly? Anything else I should do 'while I'm there'? > > Very respectfully, > /s/ > LCDR Max Dillon > '87 300TD 316k miles > '95 E300 274k miles > Charleston SC > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car ID
> ...I stand myself corrected. It is indeed a Scion xD... > It is not. This accident was at least five years ago. The rest of the photos most likely have been taken down. RLE > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN Rusty/Gary Divorce
It depends on who the participants are. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Is Banned Lite vs. Banned like comparing a US presidential debate to a Q&A session in the House of Common? On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: you are tired of songs? On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: Not here for sure. Tired of this. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN Rusty/Gary Divorce i wrote a song about my feelings. where would it go? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CASrZYn-zjo On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: that's banned. he's asking about banned lite Banned is F-Bombs and Damie's homemade porn. Banned Lite is Banned without the obscenities. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE
I think that whole setup is quite pricey to replace. Might be worth taking it out, cleaning and lubing, then see if it works better. --R Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: What happens if someone else uses your car and opens it and it jams open because of dis-use and lack of lubrication? For that reason I try to keep all the features in good operating condition on my cars. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 3:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE I don't ever open either of mine. Frankly, I think it's bad engineering to have a perfectly good steel top, then cut a hole in it and install and unreliable mechanism which may leave the roof open for weather entry/damage, and then charge "customer" an insane amount for the "privilege" of having a hole in an otherwise good steel top.;<)) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE Sunday I opened the sunroof to enjoy the beautiful weather here, and then while closing it stopped about 1/4 of the way closed. Fuse was fine, new fuse did not help, clicking noises from the motor/relay area but no motion. Discovered the manual closing knob/bolt/thing-a-ma-bob had been all buggered up by a PO so couldn't use that method. Neighbor came over to help when I asked to borrow his 6mm box wrench, which fits on the flats of the shaft left exposed with the thing-a-ma-bob wreckage was removed. While I worked the sunroof switch he gave it a little help with the wrench, and the motor came back to life allowing me to close the sunroof. So, time for a new motor/relay assembly? How much pain is caused by replacing that assembly? Anything else I should do 'while I'm there'? Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Max Dillon '87 300TD 316k miles '95 E300 274k miles Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE
Solution to any possibility like this would be to disable the switch. Either that, or your solution...to maintain it so it will always be in a reliable condition. Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300TD (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics '97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE What happens if someone else uses your car and opens it and it jams open because of dis-use and lack of lubrication? For that reason I try to keep all the features in good operating condition on my cars. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 3:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE I don't ever open either of mine. Frankly, I think it's bad engineering to have a perfectly good steel top, then cut a hole in it and install and unreliable mechanism which may leave the roof open for weather entry/damage, and then charge "customer" an insane amount for the "privilege" of having a hole in an otherwise good steel top.;<)) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE > Sunday I opened the sunroof to enjoy the beautiful weather here, and > then while closing it stopped about 1/4 of the way closed. Fuse was > fine, new fuse did not help, clicking noises from the motor/relay area > but no motion. Discovered the manual closing knob/bolt/thing-a-ma-bob > had been all buggered up by a PO so couldn't use that method. Neighbor > came over to help when I asked to borrow his 6mm box wrench, which fits > on the flats of the shaft left exposed with the thing-a-ma-bob wreckage > was removed. While I worked the sunroof switch he gave it a little help > with the wrench, and the motor came back to life allowing me to close > the sunroof. > > So, time for a new motor/relay assembly? How much pain is caused by > replacing that assembly? Anything else I should do 'while I'm there'? > > Very respectfully, > /s/ > LCDR Max Dillon > '87 300TD 316k miles > '95 E300 274k miles > Charleston SC > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE
That's why I like the manual SR on my 300TD wagon - it's relatively uncomplicated but does need to be maintained. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > I think that whole setup is quite pricey to replace. Might be worth taking > it out, cleaning and lubing, then see if it works better. > > --R > > > Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: > >> What happens if someone else uses your car and opens it and it jams open >> because of dis-use and lack of lubrication? For that reason I try to >> keep all the features in good operating condition on my cars. >> >> Max >> -Original Message- >> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com >> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON >> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 3:22 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE >> >> I don't ever open either of mine. Frankly, I think it's bad engineering >> to have a perfectly good steel top, then cut a hole in it and install >> and unreliable mechanism which may leave the roof open for weather >> entry/damage, and then charge "customer" an insane amount for the >> "privilege" of having a hole in an otherwise good steel top.;<)) >> >> Wilton >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" < >> meade.m.dil...@navy.mil> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:11 PM >> Subject: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE >> >> >> >> >>> Sunday I opened the sunroof to enjoy the beautiful weather here, and >>> then while closing it stopped about 1/4 of the way closed. Fuse was >>> fine, new fuse did not help, clicking noises from the motor/relay area >>> but no motion. Discovered the manual closing knob/bolt/thing-a-ma-bob >>> had been all buggered up by a PO so couldn't use that method. >>> >>> >> Neighbor >> >> >>> came over to help when I asked to borrow his 6mm box wrench, which >>> >>> >> fits >> >> >>> on the flats of the shaft left exposed with the thing-a-ma-bob >>> >>> >> wreckage >> >> >>> was removed. While I worked the sunroof switch he gave it a little >>> >>> >> help >> >> >>> with the wrench, and the motor came back to life allowing me to close >>> the sunroof. >>> >>> So, time for a new motor/relay assembly? How much pain is caused by >>> replacing that assembly? Anything else I should do 'while I'm there'? >>> >>> Very respectfully, >>> /s/ >>> LCDR Max Dillon >>> '87 300TD 316k miles >>> '95 E300 274k miles >>> Charleston SC >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE
When my 300SD started acting up, I just grabbed it with one hand and pushed it forward to help the motor get it closed. As long as the cable assembly doesn't come apart on you and you don't have a popup roof it's just a matter of keeping the rails clean and lubed with the special sunroof paste. (your '87 might be popup and your '95 surely is, those things can fail in expensive ways, the safest thing to do is not raise the rear of the sunroof) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE
Which is what I've done on my 240D until such time as I get rid of the car or install manual sunroof bits. The tube for the cable is buggered on mine and the motor can't push hard enough even after lubricating the sunroof to close it without bending the motor mount (!). -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:04:08 -0800 From: "Greg Fiorentino" Subject: Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Message-ID: <029701ca6700$58148080$083d81...@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Solution to any possibility like this would be to disable the switch. Either that, or your solution...to maintain it so it will always be in a reliable condition. Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300TD (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics '97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] guess Im going to have to pull the 140 engine
Hi Kaleb -- If you decide to pull the engine, make sure you put a piece of wood across the torque conv. so it cannot come off the AT. It's tricky to fully insert the TC shaft fully into the AT primary pump. IIRC the procedure is to put it against the prim pump, then turn the TC 1/4 turn and it will go into the prim pump another little bit, then turn another 1/4 turn and it will go into the PP even farther. I think that's all the way in. If it's not inserted properly, and you are sure, start over - it will damage the TC and destroy the PP if not connected properly. BTDT with my 1st MB years ago. Good luck! LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 2:24 PM To: "mercedes Mailing List" Subject: [MBZ] guess Im going to have to pull the 140 engine So I messed with the 140 SD a little today, I unbolted the motor mounts, and raised the engine up as far as I could, I just dont see anyway of getting the oil pan off to replace that rod without either removing the engine, or dropping the complete front suspension/subframe out. Guess I will just pull the motor since its already about half way out anyway. Damn, I really did not want to do that. Im about half leaning toward just putting the head back on and calling it quits and see how long it goes. Who knows, it could last a long time with that questionable #1 rod. I dont know, I guess if I pull it out I might as well just see if that other wierd 603 I have is any good and drop it in, or replace that rod on the current engine and put the head back on while its out of the car. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] [Fwd: Today's Diesel Prices]
** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a "non-proportional" font, e.g. courier) ** On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATE AVGCOAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 091116 2.790 2.808 2.868 2.912 2.759 2.769 2.733 2.820 2.899 2.964 091109 2.801 2.821 2.866 2.926 2.772 2.779 2.746 2.823 2.909 2.972 091102 2.808 2.834 2.878 2.940 2.785 2.786 2.749 2.810 2.910 2.974 091026 2.801 2.819 2.843 2.923 2.773 2.790 2.740 2.776 2.904 2.968 091019 2.705 2.716 2.752 2.831 2.664 2.693 2.644 2.704 2.822 2.874 091012 2.600 2.610 2.690 2.723 2.554 2.581 2.530 2.650 2.732 2.791 091005 2.582 2.586 2.686 2.698 2.529 2.561 2.518 2.645 2.722 2.792 090928 2.601 2.607 2.703 2.714 2.552 2.585 2.525 2.658 2.742 2.807 090921 2.622 2.631 2.708 2.738 2.578 2.598 2.542 2.678 2.783 2.827 090914 2.634 2.650 2.720 2.755 2.599 2.607 2.555 2.683 2.795 2.847 090907 2.647 2.658 2.729 2.768 2.604 2.628 2.575 2.682 2.786 2.866 090831 2.674 2.691 2.742 2.779 2.649 2.649 2.618 2.692 2.802 2.893 090824 2.668 2.692 2.741 2.781 2.649 2.637 2.622 2.671 2.785 2.880 090817 2.652 2.687 2.739 2.771 2.646 2.623 2.607 2.633 2.744 2.872 090810 2.625 2.665 2.701 2.755 2.624 2.601 2.581 2.573 2.700 2.842 090803 2.550 2.579 2.637 2.671 2.535 2.520 2.513 2.537 2.643 2.763 090727 2.528 2.550 2.613 2.643 2.505 2.500 2.493 2.540 2.617 2.720 090720 2.496 2.514 2.600 2.630 2.456 2.470 2.443 2.559 2.595 2.703 090713 2.542 2.559 2.623 2.663 2.508 2.512 2.494 2.619 2.641 2.727 090706 2.594 2.609 2.656 2.714 2.560 2.565 2.547 2.648 2.706 2.787 090629 2.608 2.629 2.666 2.726 2.584 2.578 2.569 2.631 2.712 2.785 090622 2.616 2.634 2.670 2.730 2.590 2.587 2.583 2.614 2.720 2.789 090615 2.572 2.601 2.651 2.696 2.556 2.546 2.543 2.520 2.655 2.734 090608 2.498 2.516 2.566 2.619 2.468 2.474 2.474 2.442 2.603 2.676 090601 2.352 2.369 2.438 2.457 2.326 2.322 2.323 2.343 2.460 2.502 090525 2.274 2.305 2.409 2.410 2.251 2.229 2.242 2.302 2.384 2.407 090518 2.231 2.276 2.401 2.396 2.213 2.170 2.210 2.274 2.340 2.354 090511 2.216 2.255 2.395 2.386 2.186 2.156 2.198 2.270 2.329 2.337 090504 2.185 2.226 2.382 2.365 2.152 2.124 2.153 2.262 2.306 2.316 090427 2.201 2.241 2.395 2.374 2.171 2.142 2.171 2.270 2.315 2.320 090420 2.221 2.264 2.403 2.392 2.197 2.166 2.186 2.274 2.327 2.340 090413 2.229 2.273 2.420 2.402 2.204 2.175 2.202 2.250 2.336 2.350 090406 2.228 2.279 2.429 2.419 2.205 2.178 2.210 2.213 2.311 2.335 090330 2.221 2.281 2.424 2.399 2.218 2.176 2.203 2.146 2.282 2.297 090323 2.090 2.166 2.403 2.315 2.081 2.038 2.060 2.036 2.150 2.129 090316 2.017 2.093 2.403 2.254 1.995 1.965 1.973 1.988 2.091 2.049 090309 2.045 2.122 2.434 2.287 2.022 1.988 2.006 2.017 2.120 2.075 090302 2.087 2.153 2.472 2.314 2.055 2.030 2.043 2.091 2.185 2.144 090223 2.130 2.199 2.514 2.368 2.098 2.071 2.074 2.158 2.238 2.219 090216 2.186 2.250 2.559 2.420 2.148 2.137 2.133 2.183 2.284 2.262 090209 2.219 2.296 2.576 2.450 2.205 2.173 2.156 2.211 2.292 2.269 090202 2.246 2.325 2.583 2.484 2.233 2.201 2.189 2.229 2.303 2.288 090126 2.268 2.344 2.595 2.490 2.258 2.232 2.202 2.243 2.319 2.296 090119 2.296 2.377 2.613 2.514 2.297 2.264 2.227 2.249 2.338 2.319 090112 2.3
Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE
Unlikely that somebody else is gonna use either of my cars, 'cept SWMBO, and if it were to jam open? Well, that's zackly my point. The hole in the top with 'spensive mechanism to try to keep it closed is completely useless to me. Anybody else liking them and using them on their vehicles is fine with me, 'cept it makes me have to pay more for a vehicle that has such that I don't want nor need. Ya'll are free to use them and like 'em all you want. We're all different; that's why we have different names, etc. Anybody else is welcome to put those ridiculous "wagon" wheels on cars, too, but I don't plan to have 'em on mine. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE What happens if someone else uses your car and opens it and it jams open because of dis-use and lack of lubrication? For that reason I try to keep all the features in good operating condition on my cars. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 3:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE I don't ever open either of mine. Frankly, I think it's bad engineering to have a perfectly good steel top, then cut a hole in it and install and unreliable mechanism which may leave the roof open for weather entry/damage, and then charge "customer" an insane amount for the "privilege" of having a hole in an otherwise good steel top.;<)) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE Sunday I opened the sunroof to enjoy the beautiful weather here, and then while closing it stopped about 1/4 of the way closed. Fuse was fine, new fuse did not help, clicking noises from the motor/relay area but no motion. Discovered the manual closing knob/bolt/thing-a-ma-bob had been all buggered up by a PO so couldn't use that method. Neighbor came over to help when I asked to borrow his 6mm box wrench, which fits on the flats of the shaft left exposed with the thing-a-ma-bob wreckage was removed. While I worked the sunroof switch he gave it a little help with the wrench, and the motor came back to life allowing me to close the sunroof. So, time for a new motor/relay assembly? How much pain is caused by replacing that assembly? Anything else I should do 'while I'm there'? Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Max Dillon '87 300TD 316k miles '95 E300 274k miles Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] free circuits
I think the basis of these antennas is very broadband reception. Varying the distances from the elements to the reflector helps it "tune" across a wider frequency range (as does the V shape of the elements). The above is another examle of theory following design! On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: > I had a semester of antenna design in college. What I learned was that > most successful designs were found by trial and error, and the theory to > explain why they worked generally followed. The math in that class was > too much for me, and I was happy to get a D (for degree!) and move on to > something more suited to my lack of higher math skills... > > Max > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 5:36 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] free circuits > > Some former science teacher in Maine designed this one from various > sources he says, posted it on instructables and Make highlighted it > (this is an outdoor one, the one you are thinking of is for indoors). > My antenna was a POS anyway, and it got whacked by a tree branch a > coupla weeks ago, so it went from bad to worse. I figured with a few > bucks worth of materials and junk I have laying around I could make a > couple (he ganged 2, I'm gonna try that too) and see if they did any > good out here in the woods. > > The hardware cloth is a reflector, and bending the fingers forward > apparently lines them up with the angled reflector. I think antennas > are all magic anyway, but I'll give it a try. When I get the other one > sorted out I'll put them on the roof and see what happens. > > --R > > Dieselhead wrote: > > Looks like an enhanced version of the Makezine one. What is the > > theory/reason for the hardware cloth on the back? I don't recall the > > makezine one calling for the coathanger sections to be bent forward. > > Does that help? > > > > > > On 11/14/09 11:09 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > >> Look what I built this afternoon -- a new HDTV antenna > >> > >> http://s707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/RTChoke/HDTV%20Antenna/ > >> > >> --R > >> > >> Dieselhead wrote: > >>> Wow! the alarms, controls and timers part looks llike fun. It > >>> could be dangerous! > >>> > >>> On 11/14/09 5:51 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > This could be useful... > > http://www.free-circuits.com/circuits > > Allan > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:50 PM, WILTON wrote: > Unlikely that somebody else is gonna use either of my cars, 'cept SWMBO, and > if it were to jam open? Well, that's zackly my point. The hole in the top > with 'spensive mechanism to try to keep it closed is completely useless to > me. I think sunroofs are the greatest thing since sliced bread---almost all the advantages of a convertible, without any of the drawbacks. Then again, I've never had one leak or get stuck (knock on wood)... I bet I would feel differently if I had! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE
hi Wilton! just curious; do you feel the same way about the windows? how about the doors? ;-) cheers! e WILTON wrote: I don't ever open either of mine. Frankly, I think it's bad engineering to have a perfectly good steel top, then cut a hole in it and install and unreliable mechanism which may leave the roof open for weather entry/damage, and then charge "customer" an insane amount for the "privilege" of having a hole in an otherwise good steel top. ;<)) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE Sunday I opened the sunroof to enjoy the beautiful weather here, and then while closing it stopped about 1/4 of the way closed. Fuse was fine, new fuse did not help, clicking noises from the motor/relay area but no motion. Discovered the manual closing knob/bolt/thing-a-ma-bob had been all buggered up by a PO so couldn't use that method. Neighbor came over to help when I asked to borrow his 6mm box wrench, which fits on the flats of the shaft left exposed with the thing-a-ma-bob wreckage was removed. While I worked the sunroof switch he gave it a little help with the wrench, and the motor came back to life allowing me to close the sunroof. So, time for a new motor/relay assembly? How much pain is caused by replacing that assembly? Anything else I should do 'while I'm there'? Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Max Dillon '87 300TD 316k miles '95 E300 274k miles Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Craigslist morons
I just emailed a CL seller to ask about a car. The ad contained only blurry exterior photos. I wrote something like "The car looks pretty straight from what I can see---has it ever been in an accident? How is the paint? What is the condition of the interior? Maybe you have some larger pictures that would give me a better idea of the car, so I could decide whether to come and take a look at it?" The seller's response in its entirety: "The interior is good. I don't have any other photos!" How do these people remember to keep breathing, let alone sell cars? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE
Being almost bald now, I share Wilton's sentiments about the sun roof - I need to protect what few brain cells I still have from the sun's rays, though I do like the windows and doors. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:03 PM, ernest breakfield < erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote: > hi Wilton! > > just curious; do you feel the same way about the windows? how about the > doors? ;-) > > > cheers! > e > > > > WILTON wrote: > >> I don't ever open either of mine. Frankly, I think it's bad engineering >> to have a perfectly good steel top, then cut a hole in it and install and >> unreliable mechanism which may leave the roof open for weather entry/damage, >> and then charge "customer" an insane amount for the "privilege" of having a >> hole in an otherwise good steel top.;<)) >> >> Wilton >> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as >> distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with >> others. >> The Devil's Dictionary >> Ambrose Bierce >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist morons
Your best hope is that there is a old man with a heavy german accent on the other end of that email. I've had good luck more than once when buying a car where the original ad was quite weak. This is how I bought my '79 300SD, original owner, garaged since new, 160k miles. The old man wasn't much for computers! Get him on the phone... you'll know in about 10 seconds if you're on the right track or not. Jaime On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > I just emailed a CL seller to ask about a car. The ad contained only > blurry exterior photos. I wrote something like "The car looks pretty > straight from what I can see---has it ever been in an accident? How > is the paint? What is the condition of the interior? Maybe you have > some larger pictures that would give me a better idea of the car, so I > could decide whether to come and take a look at it?" > > The seller's response in its entirety: "The interior is good. I don't > have any other photos!" > > How do these people remember to keep breathing, let alone sell cars? > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Aquariums
Andrew wrote: "Save yourself the heartbreak and adopt a couple kittens instead. I speak out of personal knowledge with fresh and saltwater acquaria, plus my ongoing experience with two affectionate 19 lb. Bombay cats (neutered male litter mates.)." Too late. The tank is set up and running. It is a 55 gallon tank. The new residents are: 10 Tiger Barbs 5 Serpae Tetras 7 small zebra danios 1 Giant Zebra Danio (Giant only means about 2.5 inches) 2 Cory Cats 3 Congo Tetras 1 Red Tail Shark 5 Angelfish (1 black, 1 Gold, 2 Zebra, 1 Marble) We also have one mixed terrier dog. But, she was here long before the fish tank. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Aquariums
Watch out for those zebra-fish- they're really aggressive. I never had any luck keeping them together with Angelfish, as the zebras would eat the angelfish fins to the point that they would die from stress. Maybe you'll be okay since the tank is so large... Tyler > Andrew wrote: "Save yourself the heartbreak and adopt a couple kittens > instead. I speak out of personal knowledge with fresh and saltwater > acquaria, plus my ongoing experience with two affectionate 19 lb. Bombay > cats (neutered male litter mates.)." > > Too late. The tank is set up and running. It is a 55 gallon tank. The > new residents are: > > 10 Tiger Barbs > 5 Serpae Tetras > 7 small zebra danios > 1 Giant Zebra Danio (Giant only means about 2.5 inches) > 2 Cory Cats > 3 Congo Tetras > 1 Red Tail Shark > 5 Angelfish (1 black, 1 Gold, 2 Zebra, 1 Marble) > > We also have one mixed terrier dog. But, she was here long before the fish > tank. > > Donald H. Snook > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] comparisons
> ...Is Banned Lite vs. Banned like comparing a US presidential debate to a > Q&A > session in the House of Commons?.. > Certainly not. Prime Minister's question time is genuinely entertaining whereas Presidential debates are a monumental waste of time. Banned Lite has all the excitement, intrigue and useful infromation of a DAR meeting. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE
No. :< Wilton - Original Message - From: "ernest breakfield" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE hi Wilton! just curious; do you feel the same way about the windows? how about the doors? ;-) cheers! e WILTON wrote: I don't ever open either of mine. Frankly, I think it's bad engineering to have a perfectly good steel top, then cut a hole in it and install and unreliable mechanism which may leave the roof open for weather entry/damage, and then charge "customer" an insane amount for the "privilege" of having a hole in an otherwise good steel top.;<)) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE Sunday I opened the sunroof to enjoy the beautiful weather here, and then while closing it stopped about 1/4 of the way closed. Fuse was fine, new fuse did not help, clicking noises from the motor/relay area but no motion. Discovered the manual closing knob/bolt/thing-a-ma-bob had been all buggered up by a PO so couldn't use that method. Neighbor came over to help when I asked to borrow his 6mm box wrench, which fits on the flats of the shaft left exposed with the thing-a-ma-bob wreckage was removed. While I worked the sunroof switch he gave it a little help with the wrench, and the motor came back to life allowing me to close the sunroof. So, time for a new motor/relay assembly? How much pain is caused by replacing that assembly? Anything else I should do 'while I'm there'? Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Max Dillon '87 300TD 316k miles '95 E300 274k miles Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sunroofs
> ...I think sunroofs are the greatest thing since sliced bread---almost > all the advantages of a convertible, without any of the drawbacks.Then again, > I've never had one leak or get stuck (knock on wood)... I > bet I would feel differently if I had!.. > Well, so what if there is eventually a malfunction of some sort? Most of them give some advance warning with an opportunity to head off the trouble or whatever. Steel sunroofs were standard for so many years, no, decades that the technology is mature. All of my past MBs have been so equipped although I can't recall if the 250 had one. MB started charging for them when they switched over to glass tilt or slide panels but now the cost is buried in the base price. Their extra cost roof now is the Panorama roof with glass panels front and back. The front one rises and sits atop the roof which I didn't bite on for several reasons. Not just the $1K option price but the possible wind noise and alll the dirt collecting corners when it's open. Plus the extra weight up high where it's not wanted. I run it tilted open almost always in good weather. RLE > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anybody, anywhere, believe this?
Reminds me of a few other government claims lately... DOE Moving On BioFuel The DOE intends to develop biofuels that can act as drop in replacements for diesel and gasoline and believes that domestic sources -- including both cellulosic ethanol and algae-based fuels -- can match almost 100 percent of the U.S. demand. Biomass Magazine has reported that the agency has solicited $50 million for algal biofuel development through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. The goal is to apply the monies to develop a consortium of research and development teams that will aggregate all the experts and apply their work to key targets. Currently, the DOE hopes to accelerate the development of hydrocarbon-based biofuels, targeting a pilot scale rollout at the end of five years. DOE hopes algae-based fuels could hope to be at the same stage within about ten years if funds are released to allow development of a consortia-based research program. Algae's potential productivity far outpaces that of land-based crop productivity (corn), but hurdles remain and the DOE has set deadlines. For algae to become a fuel source, algal cultivation and biology must be analyzed both economically and technologically. Proposals that detail plans for moving from research to development are sitting with the DOE, which plans to announce its decisions by year-end. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So looking at the fuel tank diagram, it appears that the filter is at the bottom of the tank, as are the hose connections. That makes sense I guess. So it appears that I need to drain the tank, remove it, and then do whatever to check if it is full of crap, change the filter, etc. It is not accessible from the bottom, under the car (though I guess I would need to drain the tank, which is half full, anyway)? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Missing flying:fwd
Subj: I miss flying > We have a cockpit mock-up in our house. When I mention to my wife that I > miss flying by being retired she puts me in the mock-up around bed time for > 8 hours. She has a chair in a closet, switches on the vacuum cleaner to > simulate cockpit air noise, has a dim nite-lite to simulate cockpit lighting, > serves luke-warm chicken with cold vegetables on a tray. When I get sleepy > and attempt to doze off, she knocks twice loudly on the door to simulate > the F/As entering the cockpit. > > Then after 6 hours she turns on a flood light directly in front of me to > simulate the sun coming up when approaching 20 west. I then get a cup of > coffee that has been in the coffee maker all night. Finally she lets me out > and I have to get in the back seat of her car while she runs morning errands > to simulate the bus ride to the hotel. > > When we get home I tell her I am ready for bed and the bedroom door is > locked for an hour to simulate the hotel rooms not being ready. When I > promise to never "complain" about being retired, I am allowed to enjoy my > "layover" and go to bed. Oh, and one more thing, she talks to her friends > loudly > outside the bedroom door to simulate the hotel maids chattering in the hall > in their native language. > > After two hours of sleep she calls the phone next to the bed from her > cell and says "this is crew scheduling and we have a reroute for you. Do you > have something to write with?" > > No, I guess I don't miss it after all . . . > RLE > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE
Gleitpaste. If you don't have it and don't need a kilo or 3, call Q. (800-741- 5252) He sells sane quantities in a small tin. The stealer only sells it in large quantities. I call him q because like Q supplied all the toys for Bond. Q supplies all we need to keep your MBs serving in (insert your name here)'s secret service. On 11/16/09 3:58 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:50 PM, WILTON wrote: Unlikely that somebody else is gonna use either of my cars, 'cept SWMBO, and if it were to jam open? Well, that's zackly my point. The hole in the top with 'spensive mechanism to try to keep it closed is completely useless to me. I think sunroofs are the greatest thing since sliced bread---almost all the advantages of a convertible, without any of the drawbacks. Then again, I've never had one leak or get stuck (knock on wood)... I bet I would feel differently if I had! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 87 300SDL, 87 300D, 81 240D, 200D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Missing flying:fwd
For a very long range heavy military bomber, add lots more noise, very uncomfortable seat, wear heavy parachute and straps, oxygen mask, heating system always too hot or too cold, turbulence on very low altitude navigation and bombing training routes, and have command post say, "Fly out your time," even when all training requirements are finished and you've already been numb with fatigue for hours. Wilton - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:52 PM Subject: [MBZ] Missing flying:fwd Subj: I miss flying We have a cockpit mock-up in our house. When I mention to my wife that I miss flying by being retired she puts me in the mock-up around bed time for 8 hours. She has a chair in a closet, switches on the vacuum cleaner to simulate cockpit air noise, has a dim nite-lite to simulate cockpit lighting, serves luke-warm chicken with cold vegetables on a tray. When I get sleepy and attempt to doze off, she knocks twice loudly on the door to simulate the F/As entering the cockpit. Then after 6 hours she turns on a flood light directly in front of me to simulate the sun coming up when approaching 20 west. I then get a cup of coffee that has been in the coffee maker all night. Finally she lets me out and I have to get in the back seat of her car while she runs morning errands to simulate the bus ride to the hotel. When we get home I tell her I am ready for bed and the bedroom door is locked for an hour to simulate the hotel rooms not being ready. When I promise to never "complain" about being retired, I am allowed to enjoy my "layover" and go to bed. Oh, and one more thing, she talks to her friends loudly outside the bedroom door to simulate the hotel maids chattering in the hall in their native language. After two hours of sleep she calls the phone next to the bed from her cell and says "this is crew scheduling and we have a reroute for you. Do you have something to write with?" No, I guess I don't miss it after all . . . RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE
OK, holes in side of car: Good. holes in top of car: Bad,...? ;-) i'll confess; i'm a fan of sunroofs where they're available, but i've never had a problem with one that wasn't passenger-induced. (even that was easily remedied after one of my sisters friends was doing this 'thing' out of the sunroof of my old Duster,... but that's altogether another story.) i think sunroofs are worth the minimal effort they've required in my experience to date, but i may be where the weather is nicer more of the time and use it almost all the time. i might feel different if i ever have a catastrophic failure with one, or next time my hair gets caught in one again... ;-) cheers! e WILTON wrote: No. :< Wilton - Original Message - From: "ernest breakfield" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE hi Wilton! just curious; do you feel the same way about the windows? how about the doors? ;-) cheers! e WILTON wrote: I don't ever open either of mine. Frankly, I think it's bad engineering to have a perfectly good steel top, then cut a hole in it and install and unreliable mechanism which may leave the roof open for weather entry/damage, and then charge "customer" an insane amount for the "privilege" of having a hole in an otherwise good steel top.;<)) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE Sunday I opened the sunroof to enjoy the beautiful weather here, and then while closing it stopped about 1/4 of the way closed. Fuse was fine, new fuse did not help, clicking noises from the motor/relay area but no motion. Discovered the manual closing knob/bolt/thing-a-ma-bob had been all buggered up by a PO so couldn't use that method. Neighbor came over to help when I asked to borrow his 6mm box wrench, which fits on the flats of the shaft left exposed with the thing-a-ma-bob wreckage was removed. While I worked the sunroof switch he gave it a little help with the wrench, and the motor came back to life allowing me to close the sunroof. So, time for a new motor/relay assembly? How much pain is caused by replacing that assembly? Anything else I should do 'while I'm there'? Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Max Dillon '87 300TD 316k miles '95 E300 274k miles Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody, anywhere, believe this?
RLE wrote: > Reminds me of a few other government claims lately... > > DOE Moving On BioFuel Algae? Lessee - I believe that takes lots of water? We certainly have no shortage of good clean water, now - do we? We want to put partially treated feces into clean running rivers and call that advanced wastewater treatment - complete with all sorts of nutrients and seabed killing organisms and slime - red tide? dead zones? These idiots need to dream on about how to keep people from driving. Do some urban planning instead of urban sprawl. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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--R wrote: > So it appears that I need to drain the tank, remove it, and then do > whatever to check if it is full of crap, change the filter, etc. The W123 screen is barely accessible from underneath - the half shaft is directly in the way. I might suggest you price a new screen as the W123 screen was not many dollars and kept the job a bit easy. It needs a 42mm socket - but then the half shaft was in the way - so we used an impact chisel to drive it loose. Don't underestimate the amount of fuel that will be behind that clogged screen - the screen could seep for months before you might decide to drive it out from the tank and you still might get soaked in fuel. Perhaps pressurize the tank from the fill tube to drive fuel thru the clogged screen? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody, anywhere, believe this?
Yes water but not good water. It likes salty water and CO2 and hot sun, which is what you find in places that are not nice to live in (viz. Indian reservations out west) and where it comes from underground when oil and gas are tapped. So you have lots of land, lots of nice salty dirty water and CO2, lots of sun, other energy extraction, and people who would benefit from some industry. And from what I have read it could probably be produced more efficiently and cheaper than ethanol from foodstocks. --R Mountain Man wrote: RLE wrote: Reminds me of a few other government claims lately... DOE Moving On BioFuel Algae? Lessee - I believe that takes lots of water? We certainly have no shortage of good clean water, now - do we? We want to put partially treated feces into clean running rivers and call that advanced wastewater treatment - complete with all sorts of nutrients and seabed killing organisms and slime - red tide? dead zones? These idiots need to dream on about how to keep people from driving. Do some urban planning instead of urban sprawl. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I changed the main filter today, drove to the boat store to get some biocide, and it ran fine. Main filter had lots of black crap in the fuel that was in there. INline filter looked like it was getting black, I'll keep an eye on it. I am guessing that more will come out with the biocide treatment. Tank is down to a 1/4 or less, so I will drive it until it gets pretty low then see if I can get the rest out with a pump, then pull the tank and the filter and all that. PITA. --R Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: So it appears that I need to drain the tank, remove it, and then do whatever to check if it is full of crap, change the filter, etc. The W123 screen is barely accessible from underneath - the half shaft is directly in the way. I might suggest you price a new screen as the W123 screen was not many dollars and kept the job a bit easy. It needs a 42mm socket - but then the half shaft was in the way - so we used an impact chisel to drive it loose. Don't underestimate the amount of fuel that will be behind that clogged screen - the screen could seep for months before you might decide to drive it out from the tank and you still might get soaked in fuel. Perhaps pressurize the tank from the fill tube to drive fuel thru the clogged screen? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody, anywhere, believe this?
Don't take such a narrow view, its not YOU living on this water is algae, similar to the stuff that lives in a diesel fuel tank. I'm given to understand the real hot shot way to do it is to use salt water and then pump in the emissions of a coal fired power plant. The algae thrive on the CO2 and whatnot, scrub the air clean and become bio-fuel... -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:19:05 -0600 From: Mountain Man Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody, anywhere, believe this? To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <3485b4230911161819l57b0ca7if88539c6f64ca...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 RLE wrote: > Reminds me of a few other government claims lately... > > DOE Moving On BioFuel Algae? Lessee - I believe that takes lots of water? We certainly have no shortage of good clean water, now - do we? We want to put partially treated feces into clean running rivers and call that advanced wastewater treatment - complete with all sorts of nutrients and seabed killing organisms and slime - red tide? dead zones? These idiots need to dream on about how to keep people from driving. Do some urban planning instead of urban sprawl. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] SammichMan's fame extending to the Low Country
Hey, I know that guy! (sorta) But no mention of his Benz. http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2009/nov/16/campus-likely-spur-development/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody, anywhere, believe this?
Mountain Man wrote: RLE wrote: Reminds me of a few other government claims lately... DOE Moving On BioFuel Algae? Lessee - I believe that takes lots of water? Didn't somebody recently find a way to do it through photosynthesis, but without the algae and all that water? It's the DOE's job to find out what recently became outdated and subsidize it so that the new advance can't replace it. If only we had the DOE in Edison's day, the oil lamp makers would still be in business. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rich Thomas wrote: I changed the main filter today, drove to the boat store to get some biocide, and it ran fine. Main filter had lots of black crap in the fuel that was in there. INline filter looked like it was getting black, I'll keep an eye on it. I am guessing that more will come out with the biocide treatment. Tank is down to a 1/4 or less, so I will drive it until it gets pretty low then see if I can get the rest out with a pump, then pull the tank and the filter and all that. PITA. We were just having this discussion with Matt Dillon (or was it Max Dillon?). Anyway, I think he concluded that the easiest way would be to leave the tank in situ, remove the screen from the bottom, the sending unit from the top, and blast the heck out of the tank with a pressure washer. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have not crawled up under the car, but it looks like you have to remove the tank to get at the filter on the SD. The sending unit is accessed from the recess for the first aid kit, or by removing the tank. Not sure I would want to be blasting water into the tank from inside the car. It looks like it might not be all that hard to get the tank out, once I get the fuel out, just a PITA to have to do it. --R Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: I changed the main filter today, drove to the boat store to get some biocide, and it ran fine. Main filter had lots of black crap in the fuel that was in there. INline filter looked like it was getting black, I'll keep an eye on it. I am guessing that more will come out with the biocide treatment. Tank is down to a 1/4 or less, so I will drive it until it gets pretty low then see if I can get the rest out with a pump, then pull the tank and the filter and all that. PITA. We were just having this discussion with Matt Dillon (or was it Max Dillon?). Anyway, I think he concluded that the easiest way would be to leave the tank in situ, remove the screen from the bottom, the sending unit from the top, and blast the heck out of the tank with a pressure washer. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody, anywhere, believe this?
Mitch wrote: > It's the DOE's job to find out what recently became outdated and subsidize > it so that the new advance can't replace it. Nice! Another endorsement of big government - NOT!! - Great point. Somehow we all get stuck in old ways and want to continue, instead of advance and innovate in to new means of life. Suburbia is not the be-all end-all of life in america today. Yet, with our dependence on fossil/algae fuels being coddled, we won't need to change any way of doing things for another millenia - thanks to DOE. Oh, wait - in another millenia, there won't be any more land to support sprawl. I think a reasonable objective for the young guys today is to have the experienced guys hand them the reigns and let them rule. Bill Gates was probably 25 when he became a billionaire and ruled the world by peecee. The same should be done today at every level of manufacturing and industry - then we might begin to see some innovation and abandon old ways that are untenable. I really want buggy whips back in production - they are so... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No, the screen comes out form the bottom. You run the tank empty as you can, then have jerrycans/jugs ready to catch whatever is left. cut the hose, and stuff the tank end into the funnel/can and let it drain. You won't need a new screen in all likelihood. Some recommend cutting off the screen and adding a larger prefilter screen under the hood. it is much easier to clean than crawling under and getting a bath. DO PLAN to replace the hose from the tank to the steel line. you can buy a new one with the fitting, or if you are a typical frugal Dieseler, cut the ferrule off the old hose, salvage the threaded fitting, and replace with a chunk of hose and two clamps. ALSO replace the hose chunk for the return line. Clamp them tight. You don't want air leaking into the system. Once the tank is drained. you remove the hose from the screen. Next there is a rubber seal to remove. Then the hex of the screen s visible. It is an inch and 5/8 if I remember right. Someone said 42 mm. you can use a socket, or the really big chanellocks or a hammer and chisel to turn it out. Once it is loose, it should screw out by hand. Compressed air is handy to clean the screen, if you elect to keep it. I have never been so crass as to cut the screen out. I have used a chisel to turn the large hex. I now own a socket to do the job. If you don't buy the official hose with the threaded fitting, the upper clamp can sometimes interfere with the rubber plug. I've always managed to make it work anyway. On 11/16/09 9:25 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I have not crawled up under the car, but it looks like you have to remove the tank to get at the filter on the SD. The sending unit is accessed from the recess for the first aid kit, or by removing the tank. Not sure I would want to be blasting water into the tank from inside the car. It looks like it might not be all that hard to get the tank out, once I get the fuel out, just a PITA to have to do it. --R Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: I changed the main filter today, drove to the boat store to get some biocide, and it ran fine. Main filter had lots of black crap in the fuel that was in there. INline filter looked like it was getting black, I'll keep an eye on it. I am guessing that more will come out with the biocide treatment. Tank is down to a 1/4 or less, so I will drive it until it gets pretty low then see if I can get the rest out with a pump, then pull the tank and the filter and all that. PITA. We were just having this discussion with Matt Dillon (or was it Max Dillon?). Anyway, I think he concluded that the easiest way would be to leave the tank in situ, remove the screen from the bottom, the sending unit from the top, and blast the heck out of the tank with a pressure washer. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 87 300SDL, 87 300D, 81 240D, 200D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mama's Benz got Max's bug
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:31:35 -0500 "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310" wrote: > Attached is an excerpt from the Chevron 2007 Diesel Fuel Technical > Review which speaks to microbial growth (fungi and bacteria) in diesel > fuel. Marshall Booth was fond of quoting from this, and the latest > version may be available on Chevron's website somewhere. I had a tough > time finding this in 2007, haven't tried to look for a newer version > since. Entire document is over 2 MB, let me know if you'd like a copy > and I'll send off list. Since Kaleb has changed the list to the old way of handling attachments, go ahead and sent it to the list. We can download it with the link that will be attached to your email. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ah, thank you very much for that detail. I will go to sleep soundly tonight. --R Dieselhead wrote: No, the screen comes out form the bottom. You run the tank empty as you can, then have jerrycans/jugs ready to catch whatever is left. cut the hose, and stuff the tank end into the funnel/can and let it drain. You won't need a new screen in all likelihood. Some recommend cutting off the screen and adding a larger prefilter screen under the hood. it is much easier to clean than crawling under and getting a bath. DO PLAN to replace the hose from the tank to the steel line. you can buy a new one with the fitting, or if you are a typical frugal Dieseler, cut the ferrule off the old hose, salvage the threaded fitting, and replace with a chunk of hose and two clamps. ALSO replace the hose chunk for the return line. Clamp them tight. You don't want air leaking into the system. Once the tank is drained. you remove the hose from the screen. Next there is a rubber seal to remove. Then the hex of the screen s visible. It is an inch and 5/8 if I remember right. Someone said 42 mm. you can use a socket, or the really big chanellocks or a hammer and chisel to turn it out. Once it is loose, it should screw out by hand. Compressed air is handy to clean the screen, if you elect to keep it. I have never been so crass as to cut the screen out. I have used a chisel to turn the large hex. I now own a socket to do the job. If you don't buy the official hose with the threaded fitting, the upper clamp can sometimes interfere with the rubber plug. I've always managed to make it work anyway. On 11/16/09 9:25 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I have not crawled up under the car, but it looks like you have to remove the tank to get at the filter on the SD. The sending unit is accessed from the recess for the first aid kit, or by removing the tank. Not sure I would want to be blasting water into the tank from inside the car. It looks like it might not be all that hard to get the tank out, once I get the fuel out, just a PITA to have to do it. --R Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: I changed the main filter today, drove to the boat store to get some biocide, and it ran fine. Main filter had lots of black crap in the fuel that was in there. INline filter looked like it was getting black, I'll keep an eye on it. I am guessing that more will come out with the biocide treatment. Tank is down to a 1/4 or less, so I will drive it until it gets pretty low then see if I can get the rest out with a pump, then pull the tank and the filter and all that. PITA. We were just having this discussion with Matt Dillon (or was it Max Dillon?). Anyway, I think he concluded that the easiest way would be to leave the tank in situ, remove the screen from the bottom, the sending unit from the top, and blast the heck out of the tank with a pressure washer. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I really think you are being a bit obsessive/compulsive. If you drain the tank via the screen/drain hole, the algae will come out. Most of it anyay. Most of the rust/dirt will come out too. what little left behind shouldn't be of much consequence. If you want to absess, then take the fuel, filter out the algae and dump it in the filler and let it wash out the tank. Better than all that messing around with the sender and taking out the tank. that is not an easy job. You still have to crawl under and drain the tank first to remove the hoses. In any case, you should add biocide when you refill the tank. On 11/16/09 9:13 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: I changed the main filter today, drove to the boat store to get some biocide, and it ran fine. Main filter had lots of black crap in the fuel that was in there. INline filter looked like it was getting black, I'll keep an eye on it. I am guessing that more will come out with the biocide treatment. Tank is down to a 1/4 or less, so I will drive it until it gets pretty low then see if I can get the rest out with a pump, then pull the tank and the filter and all that. PITA. We were just having this discussion with Matt Dillon (or was it Max Dillon?). Anyway, I think he concluded that the easiest way would be to leave the tank in situ, remove the screen from the bottom, the sending unit from the top, and blast the heck out of the tank with a pressure washer. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 87 300SDL, 87 300D, 81 240D, 200D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Some recommend cutting off the screen and adding a larger prefilter screen under the hood. Not I. It keeps the chunks and sand out of the fuel line, where it could get impacted. Then what would you do? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SUNROOF DIED, CAME BACK TO LIFE
So, time for a new motor/relay assembly? The problem is rarely that, as I understand it. Sticky cables and sliders, that's what happens. CLA is called for, but that takes some doing. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
