Re: [MBZ] OT poodles
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: > URL: < > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100718/42309881/attachment.jpg > > > ___ > > I was waiting for that to get posted again. I knew someone had caught their dog demonstrating the factory rear nose-holder option in their 123, I just couldn't remember who... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
I tend to test by putting in just enough to engage the pressure switch. On my 85 that was a good idea since I quickly noticed the high side was too high and the low side was ... low. I observed foam in the sight glass (the color of the oil!) and that the line going into the side of the accumulator was much hotter (30 degrees) than the one at the top. I have a new one going in tomorrow. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 18, 2010, at 22:33, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > guy owns a body shop and his supplier had a special on new machines, he did > not need the dual machine anymore. If the scale is off, it is easily > calibrated. > I still think its something with the truck though. I messed with that thing > all day, I first charged in 4 lbs, it did pretty much the same thing, high > side would get over 450 or so and compressor would cut off. I recovered > that, put in 3.25 lbs, same thing. I recovered it again and thats the > current state. Im going to pull it apart next weekend and mess with it. > > OK Don wrote: >> The machine's calibration could be off also - why was it sold? >> >> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> >> >>> the whole point of these machines is if its low, you dont know how much is >>> in there so you recover the refrigerant, program how much its supposed to >>> have and it does the rest. I suppose its possible the machine put in more >>> than it said. If it came down to it I could start it at say 3lbs, then put >>> in a little more at a time. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3013 >> - Release Date: 07/18/10 01:35:00 >> >> > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 > 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro > manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Strange Craigslist buyer
Trucks don't get dented or scratched; they build character. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 17, 2010, at 11:50, OK Don wrote: > EXACTLY! There are SO many people around here that are afraid to get a > scratch anywhere on thir pickup. I remind them that it's a TRUCK - meant to > do WORK, not look pretty! Falls on deaf ears though -- > > On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:38 AM, WILTON wrote: > >> If he's worried about scratching floor of his pickup, why can't he lay a >> piece of plywood on the floor and "have at it?" Oh, yeah, you did say >> "weird." Oh, and, if you can't haul stuff in a pickup, what the etc., is it >> for, to look at? Owner can say to friends, "Hey, look at my pickup." >> >> Wilton >> > > -- > OK Don > Panic! (the national past time). > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT poodles
I'm sure that they believe that many of us lack "horse sense" -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 18, 2010, at 21:54, OK Don wrote: > Are people as dumb as animals think? > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:29 PM, John Reames wrote: > >> Animals aren't as dumb as people think! > > > > -- > OK Don > Panic! (the national past time). > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Harbor Freight Ads
Is it just me, or just this area (Southern California), or does every publication, including the local paper, have a Harbor Freight ad? Okay, next time I submit an entry, it will be a thoughtfully presented discussion of interest to older Mercedes owners, maybe Jerry 1982 240D. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5290 (20100718) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dogs and Engine Signatures
My brother's Jack Russel recognizes my cars, and is spinning in circles barking, in or out, as soon as I turn into the drive. Seems I'm the best there is for throwing his toys. Peter -Original Message- >From: Van Knutson >Sent: Jul 18, 2010 9:09 PM >To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >Subject: [MBZ] Dogs and Engine Signatures > >Kevin Kraly wrote: > >> If I still had a Diesel Mercedes, I would try to get him to recognize the >>sound too. > >Our Poodle Jacques used to hear my 300D coming a full 30 seconds before I'd >arrive home. Alas, he's nearly 16 now and doesn't hear much of anything these >days. > >Tom > >** > >I watched a newsmagazine segment about this subject. A man who owned a 95 (?) >Jeep Cherokee and had two scotties (this was about 10 yrs ago). A camera crew >was inside his house, and when his Jeep was still about a block away, the >scotties ran to the door and waited. > >The crew then borrowed two Cherokees of the same year, make and model from a >local dealer and drove those Jeeps down the street. Neither scottie budged >from their beds. > >So, the logical conclusion is that dogs can pick out individual engine sound >signatures, and that even identical makes and models don't fool them. Very >interesting, I thought. > > >DBV, information minister > > > > > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dogs and Engine Signatures
Kevin Kraly wrote: > If I still had a Diesel Mercedes, I would try to get him to recognize the >sound too. Our Poodle Jacques used to hear my 300D coming a full 30 seconds before I'd arrive home. Alas, he's nearly 16 now and doesn't hear much of anything these days. Tom ** I watched a newsmagazine segment about this subject. A man who owned a 95 (?) Jeep Cherokee and had two scotties (this was about 10 yrs ago). A camera crew was inside his house, and when his Jeep was still about a block away, the scotties ran to the door and waited. The crew then borrowed two Cherokees of the same year, make and model from a local dealer and drove those Jeeps down the street. Neither scottie budged from their beds. So, the logical conclusion is that dogs can pick out individual engine sound signatures, and that even identical makes and models don't fool them. Very interesting, I thought. DBV, information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT poodles
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 08:06:57 -0400 "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" wrote: > Our old Golden Dexter ... loves the back seat of a 123-his nose just > fits on the door handle incline part. You mean like this? (in picture attached ...) Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: riding.in.car.05.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 167703 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100718/42309881/attachment.jpg> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
guy owns a body shop and his supplier had a special on new machines, he did not need the dual machine anymore. If the scale is off, it is easily calibrated. I still think its something with the truck though. I messed with that thing all day, I first charged in 4 lbs, it did pretty much the same thing, high side would get over 450 or so and compressor would cut off. I recovered that, put in 3.25 lbs, same thing. I recovered it again and thats the current state. Im going to pull it apart next weekend and mess with it. OK Don wrote: The machine's calibration could be off also - why was it sold? On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: the whole point of these machines is if its low, you dont know how much is in there so you recover the refrigerant, program how much its supposed to have and it does the rest. I suppose its possible the machine put in more than it said. If it came down to it I could start it at say 3lbs, then put in a little more at a time. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3013 - Release Date: 07/18/10 01:35:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] where to buy R12
Over the past 5-7 years, R12 has come down in price quite a bit. This is because more and more R12 cars are off the road and/or have been converted to R-134a, which has lessened the demand for R12. It is certainly still available. Perhaps you could have an indy shop get you a supply. You have to be certified to handle it, as you probably know, but this can be done on-line for a nominal fee. R12 is still made in Mexico and there are large stockpiles of it here in the US, as well as reclaimed R12. I would think that any refrigeration or automotive supply business (or perhaps an indy mechanic shop) would sell it to you if you had proof of certification. If you had a friend in Mexico, you could get cans of itthey are available there in auto parts stores just like 134a is here in the States!! Cheers, Gerry On Jul 18, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > Im going to keep my eye out for reasonably priced R12 to stockpile. Where is > the best place to look besides ebay. Is there anywhere online that sells > cylinders or even cans at a reasonable price? I had heard R12 has actually > been going down in price. I dont know if that is true or not. > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 > 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro > manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com > > > ___ > Daveslist mailing list > davesl...@okiebenz.com > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/daveslist_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT poodles
Are people as dumb as animals think? On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:29 PM, John Reames wrote: > Animals aren't as dumb as people think! -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT poodles
Animals aren't as dumb as people think! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 16, 2010, at 13:12, Rich Thomas wrote: > OK, so speaking of poodles. We have 3 standard poodles, 2 boys who just > turned 2 and a girl who is 4ish. Anyway, this morning the boys were on the > side porch after their brekkie. There is a big bed out there in the corner > away from the door into the house (which has a baby gate on it to keep them > out there), and their boxes are out there. I had some visitors over to > discuss our house addition, and the dogs were very excited at all the new > victims. They soon calmed down. After the visitors left I went to let the > dogs outside. One of the boys had dragged his blanket out of his box over in > front of the door so he could lie on it and watch what was going on. > > This is the same dog who last year learned how to open the gate to the back > yard by watching me do it, and then some time after I went back in the house > opened it so they could all go on a ramble. He is the Eddie Haskell of the > boys (the other one is Lumpy). > > This blanket thing I find kinda strange, he has never fooled with his blanket > at all but this morning I guess he wanted to be a bit more comfortable so got > it and set it up there where he wanted to lie on it. I don't think that is > your average dog behavior? > > --R > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1998 C220 for sale for $500
OK lets say the DOUBLE ROW timing CHAIN broke and sent the valves (there are 4 per cylinder) into the pistons, at the very least you are going to have at least 4 valves bent, depending on the engine speed at the time of the breakage. Worst case scenario is that the camshafts are damaged, which means the best option is a reconditioned head, plus there may be damage from the chain. If it was me, I would ask the seller if I could remove the rocker cover, you may find that the chain did not break but the tensioner or guide rail broke, allowing the chain to skip, which is a better scenario. Another problem is that you do not know the condition of the gearbox, A/C and other bits and pieces, the condition which of, you can only tell by having a car that can be driven. Remember if the seller was happy to drive around with a cracked wind screen and turn signal, they may well have no car pride. Is there any service history? Have a look at Rustys site for some idea on the cost of parts, it does not show a C220 for 98 but the C230 is pretty much the same. http://www.buymbparts.biz/ According to http://www.germanstar.net/Mercedes_Model_Info.html the C220 was dropped in 96, so be sure you figure out what you intent to buy, a grey market import is not going to be worth as much as a US delivered one. It is always a good idea, when looking at a Benz and thinking about buying it, to get the VIN. Far as making money out of it, if you can do the work yourself and get a good price on parts, then you may make a profit but if you have to get someone to fix the engine, then you may well end up losing money. I would guess that getting that engine repaired would cost between 1K to 2K depending on the damage. Have a look at what comparable cars are going for on ebay and in the classifieds, remembering that the asking price may not be the final selling price. The price of the W202 is dropping and over here (where Mercs are more expensive all round) we are starting to see the base models (C180's) heading close to 5K in reasonable condition. However we where not as hard hit with that financial thingy, so prices of cars have not dropped that much. Hendrik Kathmandu wrote: There was an add in the local trading post for a 1998 C220 for $500. The lady who posted the add first thought it was a BMW then said it was a 320E so you can get some idea of whom I am dealing with. She said the C220 had a broken timing belt and didn't run. She said and I quote, "it bent the points and spark plugs and doesn't run" I looked at the car and the body is straight and the interior is not ripped up or anything but it does have a cracked windshield and a broken turn signal lens. Question is, if it did break the timing belt, what sort of damage would likely have occurred and second would this car be worth anything if it were running? I am totally uninterested in this dinky Mercedes myself but I am interested if I could make a few bucks fixing and selling it or even parting it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise
The flex discs have under 10k miles on them (both front and rear. The center bearing felt good when I replaced the discs, and the rubber around it was uncracked and pliable (but not mushy). I marked the shaft w/r/t the spiders on the transmission and diff. The new discs were installed in the same orientation as the old ones, and the shaft was positioned the same w/r/t my placement marks. I cleaned and relubed the centering sleeves; they looked good. I did a visual on the boots when i took the temps, and no cracks to be seen, and no grease was to be seen. Should the wheel be drooping or supported when trying to turn it? How do you check 210 diff mounts? They appear to be bushing type that are pressed into the rear of the subframe... -j. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 18, 2010, at 13:30, Peter Frederick wrote: > Do a visual check of the rubber in the driveline (flex disks, boots, dif > mounts, ete) and replace any that show signs of serious age. > > You can check the drive axle half by jacking it up and holding the shaft > while attempting to rotate the wheel. A bad outer joint will have distinct > play and "clank" when you do this, just like a bad front CV joint. > > It's unusual for a joint to fail with an intact boot, but not unheard of -- > these are fairly flow flex joints, unlike those on front wheel drive cars. > > I do think you are on the right track, though, as whatever is making the > noise pretty much has to be rotating. > > Peter > > > -Original Message- >> From: John Reames >> Sent: Jul 18, 2010 10:35 AM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise >> >> It can be reproduced more easily after running a few miles. >> >> The best way to reproduce it is to accelerate (in drive) and then take your >> foot completely off the pedal. >> >> On the highway, when the car slows sufficiently to downshift into 4th, a >> speed dependent rattle can be heard. If this is done in "4", so the car >> cannot downshift, the noise is not heard. >> >> At about 65-70, the rattling is more like a vibration. I haven't tried >> forcing the car to not downshift at slower speeds, but the timing is >> approximately the same. At slower speeds, the noise is a more distinct >> rattling noise, almost like an exhaust pipe against a frame rail, except on >> the passenger side. (i have tweaked the exhaust alignment to create more >> space between the rail and muffler, and the noise remains unchanged). >> >> I am suspecting a cv joint at this time, so I crawled under the car and used >> a non-contact thermometer to "shoot" the joints from about 1.5" away. I used >> the same positioning and distance on all of the joints. >> >> For the inner joints, I measured at the metal where the inner end of the >> boot attaches. Both sides were approximately 125 degrees, and were within >> 2-3 degrees of each other. For the outer joints, the passenger side was >> about 15-20 degrees hotter than the driver side (120 driver, 135 passenger). >> >> The diff was 150 degrees. >> >> Any thoughts/next steps? >> >> The exhaust is on the driver side, btw. >> >> Thanks >> -j. >> >> -- >> John W Reames >> jwrea...@comcast.net >> Home: +14106646986 >> Mobile: +14437915905 >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 300E starting
I did think of checking those hoses, but I cant see any of them! have to remove the aircleaner, etc. Speaking of hot air - it's 37C here this afternoon --- the Diesels start right up! On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > One of the problems with the K jet system is false air getting into the > manifold, in a worst case scenario a hose can come off allowing too much air > into the manifold and the car won't start at all, had this in my Mum's 190E > a while back. > > Hendrik > who is full of hot air > > > OK Don wrote: > >> The 300E has been getting slightly harder to start lately. It fires almost >> immediately, then stumbles or dies, I keep cranking for another 2 or so >> seconds, then it catches and runs fine. >> >> I first thought it could be low fuel pressure, so waited after turning on >> the key, like I do in a Diesel, but this has no effect. I don;t know if >> it >> does this when hot or not, I only get in and drive half an hour, let it >> sit >> for the day, then drive back. Guess I need to test this aspect. >> >> Is this likely to be a clogged cold-start injector? >> > -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 300E starting
One of the problems with the K jet system is false air getting into the manifold, in a worst case scenario a hose can come off allowing too much air into the manifold and the car won't start at all, had this in my Mum's 190E a while back. Hendrik who is full of hot air OK Don wrote: The 300E has been getting slightly harder to start lately. It fires almost immediately, then stumbles or dies, I keep cranking for another 2 or so seconds, then it catches and runs fine. I first thought it could be low fuel pressure, so waited after turning on the key, like I do in a Diesel, but this has no effect. I don;t know if it does this when hot or not, I only get in and drive half an hour, let it sit for the day, then drive back. Guess I need to test this aspect. Is this likely to be a clogged cold-start injector? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT poodles
He doesnt like the 124 for that reason-door handle is wrong and also the back seat is too small. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Kraly Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT poodles My retired guide dog, Joel, used to put his nose on that part of the door handle too. I had him all confused when I got my second 300D fixer that didn't have a right side door handle/arm rest until I fixed it. Then, he was a happy pup! Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Strange Criagslist buyer the continuing saga
Its interesting to search. The oil cooler for my 240D was $65 shipped which I thought was fair, I could probably have gotten him down $10 but I figure he can have it... When I did the diff for the 190D the price spread was amazing from ~$400 to the $180 I paid. Of course the one I bought was crap so there you go. -Curt Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:45:55 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Criagslist buyer the continuing saga Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed car part is usually too high if you ask me. Curt Raymond wrote: > For whom? > > Based on what I found on Car-part.com its ~$200 too low. They had a bunch of 250,000 mile engines for ~$800. I figure mine loses a bit for the extra 50k but gains for the transmission and associated stuff. > > -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
The machine's calibration could be off also - why was it sold? On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > the whole point of these machines is if its low, you dont know how much is > in there so you recover the refrigerant, program how much its supposed to > have and it does the rest. I suppose its possible the machine put in more > than it said. If it came down to it I could start it at say 3lbs, then put > in a little more at a time. > -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D disassembly
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 04:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond wrote: > What, welders shouldn't have a Blackberry? > > I just forgot it was on me... I ruined a pair of Air Force pilot's sunglasses by setting them down, donning a pair of goggles, and then using a cutting torch ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New truck for Wonko or Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT poodles
My retired guide dog, Joel, used to put his nose on that part of the door handle too. I had him all confused when I got my second 300D fixer that didn't have a right side door handle/arm rest until I fixed it. Then, he was a happy pup! Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] where to buy R12
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Im going to keep my eye out for reasonably priced R12 to stockpile. Where is the best place to look besides ebay. Is there anywhere online that sells cylinders or even cans at a reasonable price? I had heard R12 has actually been going down in price. I dont know if that is true or not. You can find open cans on Craigslist for $10-15 a pound, but do you trust the guy selling it when he says that there's 17 pounds of virgin R12 in that can? It could be just about anything. Refrigerantsales.com wants $675/30lb, which would mean it's gone back up in the last year or two. There's a sealed 30lb on my Craigslist for $350 right now. http://lansing.craigslist.org/pts/1789024033.html And another for $250, I should buy that. http://flint.craigslist.org/pts/1831698818.html Here's some in Broken Arrow: http://tulsa.craigslist.org/bfs/1813038207.html And a partial in Tulsa: http://tulsa.craigslist.org/pts/1773894245.html Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] where to buy R12
Im going to keep my eye out for reasonably priced R12 to stockpile. Where is the best place to look besides ebay. Is there anywhere online that sells cylinders or even cans at a reasonable price? I had heard R12 has actually been going down in price. I dont know if that is true or not. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
the whole point of these machines is if its low, you dont know how much is in there so you recover the refrigerant, program how much its supposed to have and it does the rest. I suppose its possible the machine put in more than it said. If it came down to it I could start it at say 3lbs, then put in a little more at a time. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I checked online and found Napa has charging capacities for most cars. It shows 4lbs on my suburban. Right now I am pulling a vacuum for an hour, and will charge with 4lbs and see what happens. Why not aim low and work your way up to it? Maybe you're not getting it all out, or maybe the machine is putting more in than you think. It sure sounds like you were more than 6% overcharged this morning. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I checked online and found Napa has charging capacities for most cars. It shows 4lbs on my suburban. Right now I am pulling a vacuum for an hour, and will charge with 4lbs and see what happens. Why not aim low and work your way up to it? Maybe you're not getting it all out, or maybe the machine is putting more in than you think. It sure sounds like you were more than 6% overcharged this morning. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
I checked online and found Napa has charging capacities for most cars. It shows 4lbs on my suburban. Right now I am pulling a vacuum for an hour, and will charge with 4lbs and see what happens. Peter Frederick wrote: Yeah, overcharging will do the same thing. I use a little over 2 lbs R134a in the Benz, so 4.25 for a dual system should be about right. Might try 3 and see what happens, you can always add more if you need it. Peter -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Does anyone live near Mays Landing, NJ?
I'm in NJ, but the other end... Mays Landing is about 2.5-3 hours from here! Someone from Philly would be closer I think. Jaime On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > andrew wrote: >> If so could you take a look at a 300TD for me? This is the car that's been >> sitting since 2004 and won't start. > > contact jaime? > he's in nj someplace. > you can see his email address in past okiebenz posts. > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
Yeah, overcharging will do the same thing. I use a little over 2 lbs R134a in the Benz, so 4.25 for a dual system should be about right. Might try 3 and see what happens, you can always add more if you need it. Peter -Original Message- >From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" >Sent: Jul 18, 2010 1:49 PM >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Subject: Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems > >when I rebuilt it last year, I replaced the compressor with a new (not >rebuilt) r4, replaced rear expansion valve, replaced orifice tube in the >front (I dont recall it being pluggd up). I also flushed everything >while it was torn apart. I removed the radiator as well to clean out >the crap between it and the condenser. I am recovering the refrigerant >now and will put in on a vacuum for an hour, then recharge it. See post >just a minute ago. It did run now, but acts like its overcharged or >something. > >Peter Frederick wrote: >> Did you flush the condenser and is it clear of debris between the radiator >> and condenser? Sounds like what my TE does -- high side is too high and >> cooling is inadequate with high pressure, and I'm quite certain the plugged >> up condenser is the problem. If it's too hot from no air flow, the freon >> will not condense properly, so you have both excessive pressure and lousy >> cooling from hot gas instead of liquid at the orifice tube in front. If the >> expansion valve is working correctly, it will be wide open, too, and again >> you get high low side pressure from gas expansion rather than liquid boiling >> -- somewhat less cooling capacity. >> >> You must also evacuate for at least 45 min to remove air and water, >> particularly water, from the system -- R134a oils hold much more water than >> R12 oils, and it takes some time for them to evaporate and migrate out via >> the vacuum pump. >> >> I found that flushing the condenser alone made a huge difference -- if the >> system was ever R12, all the mineral oil will tend to collect in the >> condenser, coating the inside and greatly reducing heat transfer. >> >> Also, was the orifice tube clogged? If it was, did you put a filter in the >> low side hose, and if so, have you replaced it? Slop in there will also >> cause high side excessive pressure, and if the filter is between the fitting >> and the compressor, you can have a vacuum between the filter and the >> compressor and high pressure "upstream" of the filter! >> >> Peter >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >>> From: Mitch Haley >>> Sent: Jul 18, 2010 11:42 AM >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems >>> >>> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >>> Its R134. got the spec out of the owners manual, there is no sticker under the hood which is strange. >>> OK, sight window won't help much then. Was it always R134, or was the 4 1/4 >>> lb >>> the R12 capacity? (remember to use 3/4 as much r134 as r12. >>> >>> If it was working somewhat with 2.x in it and hydrolocks with 4.25 in it, >>> I'm >>> still thinking you want less than 4.25. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > >-- >Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, >http://www.okiebenz.com > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Does anyone live near Mays Landing, NJ?
andrew wrote: > If so could you take a look at a 300TD for me? This is the car that's been > sitting since 2004 and won't start. contact jaime? he's in nj someplace. you can see his email address in past okiebenz posts. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
when I rebuilt it last year, I replaced the compressor with a new (not rebuilt) r4, replaced rear expansion valve, replaced orifice tube in the front (I dont recall it being pluggd up). I also flushed everything while it was torn apart. I removed the radiator as well to clean out the crap between it and the condenser. I am recovering the refrigerant now and will put in on a vacuum for an hour, then recharge it. See post just a minute ago. It did run now, but acts like its overcharged or something. Peter Frederick wrote: Did you flush the condenser and is it clear of debris between the radiator and condenser? Sounds like what my TE does -- high side is too high and cooling is inadequate with high pressure, and I'm quite certain the plugged up condenser is the problem. If it's too hot from no air flow, the freon will not condense properly, so you have both excessive pressure and lousy cooling from hot gas instead of liquid at the orifice tube in front. If the expansion valve is working correctly, it will be wide open, too, and again you get high low side pressure from gas expansion rather than liquid boiling -- somewhat less cooling capacity. You must also evacuate for at least 45 min to remove air and water, particularly water, from the system -- R134a oils hold much more water than R12 oils, and it takes some time for them to evaporate and migrate out via the vacuum pump. I found that flushing the condenser alone made a huge difference -- if the system was ever R12, all the mineral oil will tend to collect in the condenser, coating the inside and greatly reducing heat transfer. Also, was the orifice tube clogged? If it was, did you put a filter in the low side hose, and if so, have you replaced it? Slop in there will also cause high side excessive pressure, and if the filter is between the fitting and the compressor, you can have a vacuum between the filter and the compressor and high pressure "upstream" of the filter! Peter -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley Sent: Jul 18, 2010 11:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its R134. got the spec out of the owners manual, there is no sticker under the hood which is strange. OK, sight window won't help much then. Was it always R134, or was the 4 1/4 lb the R12 capacity? (remember to use 3/4 as much r134 as r12. If it was working somewhat with 2.x in it and hydrolocks with 4.25 in it, I'm still thinking you want less than 4.25. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Strange Criagslist buyer the continuing saga
car part is usually too high if you ask me. Curt Raymond wrote: For whom? Based on what I found on Car-part.com its ~$200 too low. They had a bunch of 250,000 mile engines for ~$800. I figure mine loses a bit for the extra 50k but gains for the transmission and associated stuff. -Curt Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 10:54:45 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Criagslist buyer the continuing saga Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed thats not too bad Curt Raymond wrote: Engine/trans, clutch pedal etc (all you'd need for a manual conversion) for $600. I just want it gone... -Curt No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3013 - Release Date: 07/18/10 01:35:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1998 C220 for sale for $500
it bent valves. The head will need to come off. Kathmandu wrote: There was an add in the local trading post for a 1998 C220 for $500. The lady who posted the add first thought it was a BMW then said it was a 320E so you can get some idea of whom I am dealing with. She said the C220 had a broken timing belt and didn't run. She said and I quote, "it bent the points and spark plugs and doesn't run" I looked at the car and the body is straight and the interior is not ripped up or anything but it does have a cracked windshield and a broken turn signal lens. Question is, if it did break the timing belt, what sort of damage would likely have occurred and second would this car be worth anything if it were running? I am totally uninterested in this dinky Mercedes myself but I am interested if I could make a few bucks fixing and selling it or even parting it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
Its always been R134, thats the spec the owners manual gives for 134. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its R134. got the spec out of the owners manual, there is no sticker under the hood which is strange. OK, sight window won't help much then. Was it always R134, or was the 4 1/4 lb the R12 capacity? (remember to use 3/4 as much r134 as r12. If it was working somewhat with 2.x in it and hydrolocks with 4.25 in it, I'm still thinking you want less than 4.25. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3013 - Release Date: 07/18/10 01:35:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
well I just messed with it again and the pressure had equalized, so I started it up and the compressor ran, although high side was close to 400, low side about 70. Seems like its overcharged to me. When you rev it up, compressor kicks out because high side pressure gets too high. I am evacuating again and redoing it. Mitch Haley wrote: There's always the possibility you have too much R12 in it. Can you suck it out, put in a couple of pounds, and then trickle more in until the sight window goes clear? Are you sure you have the spec correct? I looked up a friend's 1993 Corolla somewhere and it was about 50oz, but a sticker under the hood says 28oz. Works great with 28oz in it, no way it would work with 50-54oz in it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3013 - Release Date: 07/18/10 01:35:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1998 C220 for sale for $500
Bent or broken valves? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Kathmandu" To: Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1998 C220 for sale for $500 There was an add in the local trading post for a 1998 C220 for $500. The lady who posted the add first thought it was a BMW then said it was a 320E so you can get some idea of whom I am dealing with. She said the C220 had a broken timing belt and didn't run. She said and I quote, "it bent the points and spark plugs and doesn't run" I looked at the car and the body is straight and the interior is not ripped up or anything but it does have a cracked windshield and a broken turn signal lens. Question is, if it did break the timing belt, what sort of damage would likely have occurred and second would this car be worth anything if it were running? I am totally uninterested in this dinky Mercedes myself but I am interested if I could make a few bucks fixing and selling it or even parting it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise
Do a visual check of the rubber in the driveline (flex disks, boots, dif mounts, ete) and replace any that show signs of serious age. You can check the drive axle half by jacking it up and holding the shaft while attempting to rotate the wheel. A bad outer joint will have distinct play and "clank" when you do this, just like a bad front CV joint. It's unusual for a joint to fail with an intact boot, but not unheard of -- these are fairly flow flex joints, unlike those on front wheel drive cars. I do think you are on the right track, though, as whatever is making the noise pretty much has to be rotating. Peter -Original Message- >From: John Reames >Sent: Jul 18, 2010 10:35 AM >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Subject: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise > >It can be reproduced more easily after running a few miles. > >The best way to reproduce it is to accelerate (in drive) and then take your >foot completely off the pedal. > >On the highway, when the car slows sufficiently to downshift into 4th, a speed >dependent rattle can be heard. If this is done in "4", so the car cannot >downshift, the noise is not heard. > >At about 65-70, the rattling is more like a vibration. I haven't tried forcing >the car to not downshift at slower speeds, but the timing is approximately the >same. At slower speeds, the noise is a more distinct rattling noise, almost >like an exhaust pipe against a frame rail, except on the passenger side. (i >have tweaked the exhaust alignment to create more space between the rail and >muffler, and the noise remains unchanged). > >I am suspecting a cv joint at this time, so I crawled under the car and used a >non-contact thermometer to "shoot" the joints from about 1.5" away. I used the >same positioning and distance on all of the joints. > >For the inner joints, I measured at the metal where the inner end of the boot >attaches. Both sides were approximately 125 degrees, and were within 2-3 >degrees of each other. For the outer joints, the passenger side was about >15-20 degrees hotter than the driver side (120 driver, 135 passenger). > >The diff was 150 degrees. > >Any thoughts/next steps? > >The exhaust is on the driver side, btw. > >Thanks >-j. > >-- >John W Reames >jwrea...@comcast.net >Home: +14106646986 >Mobile: +14437915905 >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
Did you flush the condenser and is it clear of debris between the radiator and condenser? Sounds like what my TE does -- high side is too high and cooling is inadequate with high pressure, and I'm quite certain the plugged up condenser is the problem. If it's too hot from no air flow, the freon will not condense properly, so you have both excessive pressure and lousy cooling from hot gas instead of liquid at the orifice tube in front. If the expansion valve is working correctly, it will be wide open, too, and again you get high low side pressure from gas expansion rather than liquid boiling -- somewhat less cooling capacity. You must also evacuate for at least 45 min to remove air and water, particularly water, from the system -- R134a oils hold much more water than R12 oils, and it takes some time for them to evaporate and migrate out via the vacuum pump. I found that flushing the condenser alone made a huge difference -- if the system was ever R12, all the mineral oil will tend to collect in the condenser, coating the inside and greatly reducing heat transfer. Also, was the orifice tube clogged? If it was, did you put a filter in the low side hose, and if so, have you replaced it? Slop in there will also cause high side excessive pressure, and if the filter is between the fitting and the compressor, you can have a vacuum between the filter and the compressor and high pressure "upstream" of the filter! Peter -Original Message- >From: Mitch Haley >Sent: Jul 18, 2010 11:42 AM >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Subject: Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems > >Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> Its R134. got the spec out of the owners manual, there is no sticker >> under the hood which is strange. > >OK, sight window won't help much then. Was it always R134, or was the 4 1/4 lb >the R12 capacity? (remember to use 3/4 as much r134 as r12. > >If it was working somewhat with 2.x in it and hydrolocks with 4.25 in it, I'm >still thinking you want less than 4.25. > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Strange Criagslist buyer the continuing saga
For whom? Based on what I found on Car-part.com its ~$200 too low. They had a bunch of 250,000 mile engines for ~$800. I figure mine loses a bit for the extra 50k but gains for the transmission and associated stuff. -Curt Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 10:54:45 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Criagslist buyer the continuing saga Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed thats not too bad Curt Raymond wrote: > Engine/trans, clutch pedal etc (all you'd need for a manual conversion) for $600. I just want it gone... > > -Curt > > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1998 C220 for sale for $500
There was an add in the local trading post for a 1998 C220 for $500. The lady who posted the add first thought it was a BMW then said it was a 320E so you can get some idea of whom I am dealing with. She said the C220 had a broken timing belt and didn't run. She said and I quote, "it bent the points and spark plugs and doesn't run" I looked at the car and the body is straight and the interior is not ripped up or anything but it does have a cracked windshield and a broken turn signal lens. Question is, if it did break the timing belt, what sort of damage would likely have occurred and second would this car be worth anything if it were running? I am totally uninterested in this dinky Mercedes myself but I am interested if I could make a few bucks fixing and selling it or even parting it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its R134. got the spec out of the owners manual, there is no sticker under the hood which is strange. OK, sight window won't help much then. Was it always R134, or was the 4 1/4 lb the R12 capacity? (remember to use 3/4 as much r134 as r12. If it was working somewhat with 2.x in it and hydrolocks with 4.25 in it, I'm still thinking you want less than 4.25. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
Its R134. got the spec out of the owners manual, there is no sticker under the hood which is strange. Mitch Haley wrote: There's always the possibility you have too much R12 in it. Can you suck it out, put in a couple of pounds, and then trickle more in until the sight window goes clear? Are you sure you have the spec correct? I looked up a friend's 1993 Corolla somewhere and it was about 50oz, but a sticker under the hood says 28oz. Works great with 28oz in it, no way it would work with 50-54oz in it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3013 - Release Date: 07/18/10 01:35:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
There's always the possibility you have too much R12 in it. Can you suck it out, put in a couple of pounds, and then trickle more in until the sight window goes clear? Are you sure you have the spec correct? I looked up a friend's 1993 Corolla somewhere and it was about 50oz, but a sticker under the hood says 28oz. Works great with 28oz in it, no way it would work with 50-54oz in it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
If the back exp valve stuck I could see it causing the back unit to not work, but I cant see it causing this problem. I think either I got something plugging up with orifice tube in the front, or maybe something is plugged up in the accumulator? Could a valve or something in the compressor sticking open or closed cause this? As it said, it worked just fine before I evacuated and recharged. Brian Toscano wrote: I'd think the orifice tube or expansion valve can stick open, closed, or anywhere in between. It might pull vacuum depending on how it was stuck. Regards, Brian -Original Message- From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 10:36:27 To: mercedes Mailing List Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems I bought a new (to me) Robinair ac recovery recycle charging machine yesterday. This one is a dual machine and will do both 134 and r12. It came with about 20 lbs of r12. I am now going to sell my 2 snap on machines. So yesterday I am trying it out on my Suburban. The Suburban is not cooling all the great. I pretty much completely rebuilt the ac last year complete with new compressor, accumulator, orifice tube in the front, expansion valve in the back. I hook the machine up and recover the refrigerant, it recovers about 2.9 lbs. System holds 4.25. After I recover, I pull a vacuum and it pulls fine down to 30" pretty quick. I pull the vacuum for about 5 minutes and let it sit for about 15 or so to see if it loses any vacuum. I then set the machine to charge in 4.25 lbs, which it does just fine. After charged I start the truck and turn on the AC. I start hearing the belt squeel as the compressor is turning, slowing down, then stopping till the clutch cuts out. Strange. I watch the guages and as soon as the compressor kicks in, high side shoots to well over 400, like 450 or more. Low side never moves, it stays at around 60lbs which is about what it was showing after charged before the system was started. The strange thing is it worked just fine before I messed with it, nothing was done that I can see would cause a problem. It acts like something is plugged up somewhere. Do you think maybe when I pulled the vacuum it sucked something loose and plugged up the orifice tube or something? on the other hand, it seems that if something was plugged, the high side would go real high, and the low side would go real low maybe to a vacuum, but it just stays where its at. I am fixing to head out and recover again and pull the system apart but this is just strange, what could cause this problem? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Strange Criagslist buyer the continuing saga
thats not too bad Curt Raymond wrote: Engine/trans, clutch pedal etc (all you'd need for a manual conversion) for $600. I just want it gone... -Curt -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
I'd think the orifice tube or expansion valve can stick open, closed, or anywhere in between. It might pull vacuum depending on how it was stuck. Regards, Brian -Original Message- From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 10:36:27 To: mercedes Mailing List Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems I bought a new (to me) Robinair ac recovery recycle charging machine yesterday. This one is a dual machine and will do both 134 and r12. It came with about 20 lbs of r12. I am now going to sell my 2 snap on machines. So yesterday I am trying it out on my Suburban. The Suburban is not cooling all the great. I pretty much completely rebuilt the ac last year complete with new compressor, accumulator, orifice tube in the front, expansion valve in the back. I hook the machine up and recover the refrigerant, it recovers about 2.9 lbs. System holds 4.25. After I recover, I pull a vacuum and it pulls fine down to 30" pretty quick. I pull the vacuum for about 5 minutes and let it sit for about 15 or so to see if it loses any vacuum. I then set the machine to charge in 4.25 lbs, which it does just fine. After charged I start the truck and turn on the AC. I start hearing the belt squeel as the compressor is turning, slowing down, then stopping till the clutch cuts out. Strange. I watch the guages and as soon as the compressor kicks in, high side shoots to well over 400, like 450 or more. Low side never moves, it stays at around 60lbs which is about what it was showing after charged before the system was started. The strange thing is it worked just fine before I messed with it, nothing was done that I can see would cause a problem. It acts like something is plugged up somewhere. Do you think maybe when I pulled the vacuum it sucked something loose and plugged up the orifice tube or something? on the other hand, it seems that if something was plugged, the high side would go real high, and the low side would go real low maybe to a vacuum, but it just stays where its at. I am fixing to head out and recover again and pull the system apart but this is just strange, what could cause this problem? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I buy a new AC machine, now have AC problems
I bought a new (to me) Robinair ac recovery recycle charging machine yesterday. This one is a dual machine and will do both 134 and r12. It came with about 20 lbs of r12. I am now going to sell my 2 snap on machines. So yesterday I am trying it out on my Suburban. The Suburban is not cooling all the great. I pretty much completely rebuilt the ac last year complete with new compressor, accumulator, orifice tube in the front, expansion valve in the back. I hook the machine up and recover the refrigerant, it recovers about 2.9 lbs. System holds 4.25. After I recover, I pull a vacuum and it pulls fine down to 30" pretty quick. I pull the vacuum for about 5 minutes and let it sit for about 15 or so to see if it loses any vacuum. I then set the machine to charge in 4.25 lbs, which it does just fine. After charged I start the truck and turn on the AC. I start hearing the belt squeel as the compressor is turning, slowing down, then stopping till the clutch cuts out. Strange. I watch the guages and as soon as the compressor kicks in, high side shoots to well over 400, like 450 or more. Low side never moves, it stays at around 60lbs which is about what it was showing after charged before the system was started. The strange thing is it worked just fine before I messed with it, nothing was done that I can see would cause a problem. It acts like something is plugged up somewhere. Do you think maybe when I pulled the vacuum it sucked something loose and plugged up the orifice tube or something? on the other hand, it seems that if something was plugged, the high side would go real high, and the low side would go real low maybe to a vacuum, but it just stays where its at. I am fixing to head out and recover again and pull the system apart but this is just strange, what could cause this problem? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise
It can be reproduced more easily after running a few miles. The best way to reproduce it is to accelerate (in drive) and then take your foot completely off the pedal. On the highway, when the car slows sufficiently to downshift into 4th, a speed dependent rattle can be heard. If this is done in "4", so the car cannot downshift, the noise is not heard. At about 65-70, the rattling is more like a vibration. I haven't tried forcing the car to not downshift at slower speeds, but the timing is approximately the same. At slower speeds, the noise is a more distinct rattling noise, almost like an exhaust pipe against a frame rail, except on the passenger side. (i have tweaked the exhaust alignment to create more space between the rail and muffler, and the noise remains unchanged). I am suspecting a cv joint at this time, so I crawled under the car and used a non-contact thermometer to "shoot" the joints from about 1.5" away. I used the same positioning and distance on all of the joints. For the inner joints, I measured at the metal where the inner end of the boot attaches. Both sides were approximately 125 degrees, and were within 2-3 degrees of each other. For the outer joints, the passenger side was about 15-20 degrees hotter than the driver side (120 driver, 135 passenger). The diff was 150 degrees. Any thoughts/next steps? The exhaust is on the driver side, btw. Thanks -j. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Strange Craigslist buyer
I didn't see any car at all, though. ;<))) Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Craigslist buyer I have to admit that a couple of those photos do look pretty good. :<)) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Hendrik & Fay" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Craigslist buyer Yeah well, it is a thing that people do, buy 'commercial vehicles' and treat them like super cars. I don't think they really know that they look like d heads cruising in their pimp trucks, speaking of which , here is another one to inspire Wilton to trick his ride http://cgi.ebay.com.au/show-air-bagged-v8-mint-1969-mercedes-show-stopper-/200496925539?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Cars&hash=item2eae8c4b63 come'on Wilton, you know this is what you want. Just think, tail dragging and nose in the air down main street.cool. Or the other way around. Hendrik who has superior taste in cars OK Don wrote: EXACTLY! There are SO many people around here that are afraid to get a scratch anywhere on thir pickup. I remind them that it's a TRUCK - meant to do WORK, not look pretty! Falls on deaf ears though -- On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:38 AM, WILTON wrote: If he's worried about scratching floor of his pickup, why can't he lay a piece of plywood on the floor and "have at it?" Oh, yeah, you did say "weird." Oh, and, if you can't haul stuff in a pickup, what the etc., is it for, to look at? Owner can say to friends, "Hey, look at my pickup." Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Strange Craigslist buyer
I have to admit that a couple of those photos do look pretty good. :<)) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Hendrik & Fay" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Craigslist buyer Yeah well, it is a thing that people do, buy 'commercial vehicles' and treat them like super cars. I don't think they really know that they look like d heads cruising in their pimp trucks, speaking of which , here is another one to inspire Wilton to trick his ride http://cgi.ebay.com.au/show-air-bagged-v8-mint-1969-mercedes-show-stopper-/200496925539?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Cars&hash=item2eae8c4b63 come'on Wilton, you know this is what you want. Just think, tail dragging and nose in the air down main street.cool. Or the other way around. Hendrik who has superior taste in cars OK Don wrote: EXACTLY! There are SO many people around here that are afraid to get a scratch anywhere on thir pickup. I remind them that it's a TRUCK - meant to do WORK, not look pretty! Falls on deaf ears though -- On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:38 AM, WILTON wrote: If he's worried about scratching floor of his pickup, why can't he lay a piece of plywood on the floor and "have at it?" Oh, yeah, you did say "weird." Oh, and, if you can't haul stuff in a pickup, what the etc., is it for, to look at? Owner can say to friends, "Hey, look at my pickup." Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tightening Nets on the Back of Front Seats of 83 300SD
Dwight, Consider yourself lucky — with an older W123 you probably have a metal rather than plastic frame. Removal is obvious once the seat back is off. Dave > Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 8:03 AM > Does this apply to the 123 as well? > Thanks, > Dwight > > Dwight E. Giles, Jr. > 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. > 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. > Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tightening Nets on the Back of Front Seats of 83 300SD
It should. You have to pull the seat back off to get at the net. As he mentioned, the plastic frame that holds the netting will be really brittle from age, and will probably break into multiple pieces when you try to remove it. Just go slow and do your best to preserve as much of it as possible. You can replace the elastic with stock elastic you can find in just about any fabric store. It's standard sized stuff, you'll just have to by a package of it that you'll never fully use, that's all. Dan --- On Sun, 7/18/10, Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: > From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tightening Nets on the Back of Front Seats of 83 300SD > To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" > Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 8:03 AM > Does this apply to the 123 as well? > Thanks, > Dwight > > Dwight E. Giles, Jr. > 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. > 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. > Wickford, RI > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Barry Stark > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:06 AM > To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tightening Nets on the Back of Front > Seats of 83 300SD > > Tom - > You very well may find it in the archives. I'm assuming > your '83 126 is > similar to my '81. The problem is that the elastic is gone > from the top > horizontal part of the net. It is fairly easy to replace > but on my car it > had seen many years of direct sunlight and a lot of the > plastic parts have > become very brittle. With this in mind, you have to remove > the back from the > seat that needs to have the net repaired. You do that by > removing the 2 > screws at the base of the seat back and pulling down on the > seat back till > it comes free. You should now have access to the screws > that hold the > framework for the net in place. This is where I had a bit > of a problem as by > the time I had removed the screws from the brackets on my > seatback the > frames for the nets had cracked. I was able to epoxy them > back together but > try to be as careful as you can when you remove the screws. > I was able to > find a very good match for the elastic material at a local > REI store, a > camping/sporting goods store. I found the elastic material > for a couple of > bucks or so in the rock climbing equipment section with the > climbing ropes > and such. A quick search showed the closest REI to you to > be in Georgia, a > bit of a trek for some stretch material but I'm guessing > you may find a > similar type store nearer to you. You might even try at a > sewing and yardage > store. Replacement from this point is fairly obvious. My > nets are still nice > and tight and that was about 4 years ago. I just took a > quick look at the > EPC to see if the net is available as a separate part. It > appears that it > comes with the plastic frame and the part number is 126 810 > 02 49. I'm sure > Rusty can give you a price. > > Barry > > > > > > > I am assuming that the instructions for tightening up > the nets on the > > back > > of a front seat should be somewhat generic. The > car is my 83 300SD. > > Just > > working on some little things to improve the > appearance inside. > > > > Does anyone have that written down or could I find it > on line? > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT poodles
Our old Golden Dexter, who is on his second 240D, can tell that from the OM 602. He's pretty deaf now but still gets up when the 240D turns the corner. Used to be down the street he'd hear it. He loves the back seat of a 123-his nose just fits on the door handle incline part. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:32 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT poodles My dog Buster can tell the 240D 2 corners from here. Amazingly he can pick out the Ranger from the end of our street. When another Ranger comes down the street and both of us are here he gets very confused. -Curt Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 22:39:04 -0500 From: Thomas Savage To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT poodles Message-ID: <4c427758.1000...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Kevin Kraly wrote: > If I still had a > Diesel Mercedes, I would try to get him to recognize the sound too. Our Poodle Jacques used to hear my 300D coming a full 30 seconds before I'd arrive home. Alas, he's nearly 16 now and doesn't hear much of anything these days. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tightening Nets on the Back of Front Seats of 83 300SD
Does this apply to the 123 as well? Thanks, Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Barry Stark Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:06 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tightening Nets on the Back of Front Seats of 83 300SD Tom - You very well may find it in the archives. I'm assuming your '83 126 is similar to my '81. The problem is that the elastic is gone from the top horizontal part of the net. It is fairly easy to replace but on my car it had seen many years of direct sunlight and a lot of the plastic parts have become very brittle. With this in mind, you have to remove the back from the seat that needs to have the net repaired. You do that by removing the 2 screws at the base of the seat back and pulling down on the seat back till it comes free. You should now have access to the screws that hold the framework for the net in place. This is where I had a bit of a problem as by the time I had removed the screws from the brackets on my seatback the frames for the nets had cracked. I was able to epoxy them back together but try to be as careful as you can when you remove the screws. I was able to find a very good match for the elastic material at a local REI store, a camping/sporting goods store. I found the elastic material for a couple of bucks or so in the rock climbing equipment section with the climbing ropes and such. A quick search showed the closest REI to you to be in Georgia, a bit of a trek for some stretch material but I'm guessing you may find a similar type store nearer to you. You might even try at a sewing and yardage store. Replacement from this point is fairly obvious. My nets are still nice and tight and that was about 4 years ago. I just took a quick look at the EPC to see if the net is available as a separate part. It appears that it comes with the plastic frame and the part number is 126 810 02 49. I'm sure Rusty can give you a price. Barry > I am assuming that the instructions for tightening up the nets on the > back > of a front seat should be somewhat generic. The car is my 83 300SD. > Just > working on some little things to improve the appearance inside. > > Does anyone have that written down or could I find it on line? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT poodles
My dog Buster can tell the 240D 2 corners from here. Amazingly he can pick out the Ranger from the end of our street. When another Ranger comes down the street and both of us are here he gets very confused. -Curt Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 22:39:04 -0500 From: Thomas Savage To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT poodles Message-ID: <4c427758.1000...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Kevin Kraly wrote: > If I still had a > Diesel Mercedes, I would try to get him to recognize the sound too. Our Poodle Jacques used to hear my 300D coming a full 30 seconds before I'd arrive home. Alas, he's nearly 16 now and doesn't hear much of anything these days. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Strange Criagslist buyer the continuing saga
Engine/trans, clutch pedal etc (all you'd need for a manual conversion) for $600. I just want it gone... -Curt Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:20:52 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Strange Criagslist buyer the continuing saga Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed so how much did you sell it for? Curt Raymond wrote: > So the dude showed up, cash in hand... > > His "plan" for getting the engine was to come back Tuesday and do my original plan of sliding from one truck to the other... The problem of course is I don't want the engine in my truck for 3 more days. > > Finally we ran down to my buddy's snowmobile shop, my buddy borrowed a forklift and pulled the engine out of the truck and will hold it until the dude returns. I love it when a plan comes together... > > -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D disassembly
What, welders shouldn't have a Blackberry? I just forgot it was on me... Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:48:03 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D disassembly Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt typed something, I'm sure, has neither been uttered nor typed: "Just now I realized that while I was welding I forgot to take off my Blackberry and managed to get a very small piece of hot slag right through the screen's outer covering. " I always thought "welding" and "Blackbery" would never be in the same sentence. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Strange Craigslist buyer
Yeah well, it is a thing that people do, buy 'commercial vehicles' and treat them like super cars. I don't think they really know that they look like d heads cruising in their pimp trucks, speaking of which , here is another one to inspire Wilton to trick his ride http://cgi.ebay.com.au/show-air-bagged-v8-mint-1969-mercedes-show-stopper-/200496925539?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Cars&hash=item2eae8c4b63 come'on Wilton, you know this is what you want. Just think, tail dragging and nose in the air down main street.cool. Or the other way around. Hendrik who has superior taste in cars OK Don wrote: EXACTLY! There are SO many people around here that are afraid to get a scratch anywhere on thir pickup. I remind them that it's a TRUCK - meant to do WORK, not look pretty! Falls on deaf ears though -- On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:38 AM, WILTON wrote: If he's worried about scratching floor of his pickup, why can't he lay a piece of plywood on the floor and "have at it?" Oh, yeah, you did say "weird." Oh, and, if you can't haul stuff in a pickup, what the etc., is it for, to look at? Owner can say to friends, "Hey, look at my pickup." Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tightening Nets on the Back of Front Seats of 83 300SD
Tom - You very well may find it in the archives. I'm assuming your '83 126 is similar to my '81. The problem is that the elastic is gone from the top horizontal part of the net. It is fairly easy to replace but on my car it had seen many years of direct sunlight and a lot of the plastic parts have become very brittle. With this in mind, you have to remove the back from the seat that needs to have the net repaired. You do that by removing the 2 screws at the base of the seat back and pulling down on the seat back till it comes free. You should now have access to the screws that hold the framework for the net in place. This is where I had a bit of a problem as by the time I had removed the screws from the brackets on my seatback the frames for the nets had cracked. I was able to epoxy them back together but try to be as careful as you can when you remove the screws. I was able to find a very good match for the elastic material at a local REI store, a camping/sporting goods store. I found the elastic material for a couple of bucks or so in the rock climbing equipment section with the climbing ropes and such. A quick search showed the closest REI to you to be in Georgia, a bit of a trek for some stretch material but I'm guessing you may find a similar type store nearer to you. You might even try at a sewing and yardage store. Replacement from this point is fairly obvious. My nets are still nice and tight and that was about 4 years ago. I just took a quick look at the EPC to see if the net is available as a separate part. It appears that it comes with the plastic frame and the part number is 126 810 02 49. I'm sure Rusty can give you a price. Barry > I am assuming that the instructions for tightening up the nets on the > back > of a front seat should be somewhat generic. The car is my 83 300SD. > Just > working on some little things to improve the appearance inside. > > Does anyone have that written down or could I find it on line? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
