Re: [MBZ] OT ipad email

[clay monroe]

make sure you have the outgoing server data input correctly.  I have had no 
issue with my ipad with POP or IMAP.

clay

On Dec 25, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

> I am trying to send email from an ipad, it says email address (this one) 
> rejected by server, which I guess is the okie server.   I managed to set it 
> up to get mail OK.  What do I need to do to send?
> 
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Need Good Body Shop Recommendation in Northern VA-DC Area

[clay monroe]

Our old cars really should have old school lead floated instead of bondo.   It 
is an art to do, but probably well worth the effort.

clay

On Dec 24, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Frederick Moir wrote:

> What Dan says.
> Also, Bondo is not waterproof and will allow the underlying metal to rust. I 
> use All Metal instead of Bondo-like stuff.
> My $0.02 worth
>  
> Fred Moir
> Lynn MA
> Diesel preferred.
> 
> 
>> 
>> From: Dan Penoff 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 9:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Need Good Body Shop Recommendation in Northern VA-DC Area
>> 
>> Very true.  A competent professional will use very little, if any, bondo or 
>> filler.  In most cases they use it to simply clean up a line, not to build 
>> up a damaged area.  If they are replacing metal, there should be no bondo on 
>> the new metal.
>> 
>> I had the jack points rebuilt on my former 1979 300TD, and I saw the areas 
>> where they cut to old metal away and relaxed it with new.,  It's an area 
>> with a lot of layers and complex angles - it's easy to make the outside look 
>> nice, but critical to get the inside parts done correctly while they are in 
>> there doing the work.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> On Dec 24, 2012, at 8:56 AM,  wrote:
>> 
>>> Dan, I will find out this week.  I was told by someone that using Bondo
>>> was not correct.
>>> 
>>> R
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

[Benz Hogs]

Follow the steps on page 46 (written p38) of: 
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/63y0640.pdf

1. Power off the computer, and then power it on again.
2. When the ThinkPad logo comes up, immediately press Enter key. The Rescue
and Recovery workspace opens.
3. Click Launch advanced Rescue and Recovery.
4. Click Diagnose hardware.

Run the "Power" FRU test.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (159,xxx mi)

On 12/25/2012 1:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Tried that did not help. When up unplug the charger it shuts off immediately 
just as if power completely removed

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On Dec 25, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Benz Hogs  wrote:


Try a battery firmware update.  See: 
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/X100e-short-run-time-battery-won-t-completely-charge/ta-p/247381


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On 12/25/2012 9:08 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

I have pulled a fully charged battery from another computer and put on it and 
it died also

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Re: [MBZ] OT ipad email

[dave walton]

One more thing - I have multiple gmail accounts setup under the iPad mail
app. One of them periodically fails sending and retrieving mail. Its a
known Gmail bug. You can download the free Gmail app and use it for the
problematic account if you need to.

On Tuesday, December 25, 2012, dave walton wrote:

> If you have multiple accounts set up, you can tap the "From" field and
> select which account sends the mail. The first tap will open up the CC and
> BCC fields, then you tap the "From" field again and you are presented with
> a list of accounts to choose from.
>
> On Tuesday, December 25, 2012, Rich Thomas wrote:
>
>> I used the same settings I have on my laptop and desktop machines, I have
>> sent emails using another account and they worked fine. It is kinda funny,
>> using the gmail smtp server for outbound mail on one account makes it show
>> up as my gmail account even though I am sending it from another
>> account/email addy.
>>
>> --R
>>
>> On 12/25/2012 5:36 PM, Fmiser wrote:
>>
>>> Rich Thomas wrote:
 I am trying to send email from an ipad, it says email address
 (this one) rejected by server, which I guess is the okie
 server.   I managed to set it up to get mail OK.  What do I
 need to do to send?

>>> Just like a "real" computer, the send (SMTP) is a whole
>>> different protocol than receive (POP3 or IMAP).  Both have to be
>>> set up, and often use a different server. Like "mail.domain.com"
>>> for receive and "smtp.domain.com" for send.
>>>
>>> For example, to send using a Gmail account, under the section
>>> called "Outgoing Mail Server" set "SMTP" to smtp.gmail.com.
>>>
>>> --   Philip
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Re: [MBZ] OT ipad email

[dave walton]

If you have multiple accounts set up, you can tap the "From" field and
select which account sends the mail. The first tap will open up the CC and
BCC fields, then you tap the "From" field again and you are presented with
a list of accounts to choose from.

On Tuesday, December 25, 2012, Rich Thomas wrote:

> I used the same settings I have on my laptop and desktop machines, I have
> sent emails using another account and they worked fine. It is kinda funny,
> using the gmail smtp server for outbound mail on one account makes it show
> up as my gmail account even though I am sending it from another
> account/email addy.
>
> --R
>
> On 12/25/2012 5:36 PM, Fmiser wrote:
>
>> Rich Thomas wrote:
>>> I am trying to send email from an ipad, it says email address
>>> (this one) rejected by server, which I guess is the okie
>>> server.   I managed to set it up to get mail OK.  What do I
>>> need to do to send?
>>>
>> Just like a "real" computer, the send (SMTP) is a whole
>> different protocol than receive (POP3 or IMAP).  Both have to be
>> set up, and often use a different server. Like "mail.domain.com"
>> for receive and "smtp.domain.com" for send.
>>
>> For example, to send using a Gmail account, under the section
>> called "Outgoing Mail Server" set "SMTP" to smtp.gmail.com.
>>
>> --   Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Another piece of good news

[Rick Knoble]

On Dec 25, 2012, at 2:52 PM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:

> The worrying tick goes away at low speeds but comes back above about 2500rpm 
> but other than that the car seems to have proper power and if anything the 
> throttle responds a little better than it did before. Is it possible that 
> massively overheating didn't hurt much of anything?


Perhaps it facilitated the burning off of carbon deposits? 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Most valuable

[Gerry Archer]

Garden stores have green foam "kneeling pads" that work okay for short jobs. 
I have two heights of step stools that cover working heights below regular 
chair height.  With the kneeling pad and the three heights of stools/chairs 
to sit on, nearly any job can be done without paining the knees/hips.

Gerryalso with touchy knee and hip bones.

From: "Dan Penoff" 
Kneeling does me in, too.  When I have to work on a server at work that's 
below about section 22/24 in a rack I get a step stool to sit on.  If I 
don't my right knee will remind me what I had been doing for a day or two 
afterwards.


I was amazed that the two or so hours I spent on a creeper the other night 
while replacing the transmission cooler lines on the eldest's 300E didn't 
seem to affect me that much.  I was expecting to be in marginal shape the 
next day.


Dan

On Dec 24, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:


On Dec 24, 2012, at 5:21 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:


Kneeling on the concrete floor is no(t) working for me.



Welcome to maturity.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT ipad email

[Craig]

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:59:22 -0500 Rich Thomas
 wrote:

> I used the same settings I have on my laptop and desktop machines, I 
> have sent emails using another account and they worked fine. It is
> kinda funny, using the gmail smtp server for outbound mail on one
> account makes it show up as my gmail account even though I am sending
> it from another account/email addy.

So the gmail email server accepts relays? Hm ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT ipad email

[Rich Thomas]

I used the same settings I have on my laptop and desktop machines, I 
have sent emails using another account and they worked fine. It is kinda 
funny, using the gmail smtp server for outbound mail on one account 
makes it show up as my gmail account even though I am sending it from 
another account/email addy.


--R

On 12/25/2012 5:36 PM, Fmiser wrote:

Rich Thomas wrote:
I am trying to send email from an ipad, it says email address
(this one) rejected by server, which I guess is the okie
server.   I managed to set it up to get mail OK.  What do I
need to do to send?

Just like a "real" computer, the send (SMTP) is a whole
different protocol than receive (POP3 or IMAP).  Both have to be
set up, and often use a different server. Like "mail.domain.com"
for receive and "smtp.domain.com" for send.

For example, to send using a Gmail account, under the section
called "Outgoing Mail Server" set "SMTP" to smtp.gmail.com.

--   Philip

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[MBZ] For your entertainment

[Dieselhead]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5JbXRDOP60

Some pretty good color movie clips from WWII.

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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[Hendrik and fay]

It does not have the steering wheel on the other side and it is not 
sitting in my driveway, so no it does not have everything.


Hendrik
who managed to survive the festivities without dramas

On 25/12/12 13:38, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

My gl has everything including the backup camera

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On Dec 24, 2012, at 9:03 PM, Hendrik and fay  wrote:


Well here the Sun is shining and a lovely 22 degrees C, son is pretty excited 
but daughter is being a teenage grinch.
Family is starting to drop in and I am thinking about cranking the BBQ and 
obviously need a beer whilst working the hotplate, it's the usual stuff really.
Santa left me a new club guernsey and tobacco pouch.
Fay, amongst other things, got a reversing camera for the TE, couldn't afford 
the fancy SUV she wants. Especially after seeing Reggy got a GL, heck even the 
ML's are pricey over here. Does the GL have reversing camera?
OK gotta go, Fay is on the my back to organise the guests, so I gotta sign off 
and wish you lot a Merry Chrissymess and drama free new year.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RVLfSMIB7K0/SzOfFAVWrII/c4E/xdv0xi9vJJc/s1600-h/SantaMercedes.jpg

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Bimmer speedo

[Craig]

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 18:52:28 -0500 "WILTON"  wrote:

> In the photo of inst cluster on the site linked below, I don't see a
> cable connection, but I do see an electrical receptacle; so, it seems
> that the "connector" on diff may be electrical?

> Elec connection only to speedo - NO mechanical cable?
> > From my BMW affectionado Pete;
> >
> > Odometers go out more often
> > http://forums.eurocca.net/showthread.php/32394-E30-Odometer-Fix
> >
> > Otherwise if its the speedo, its probably the connector on the back
> > of the differential, ive heard of them getting corroded from time to
> > time

>From the pictures, it does look like an electric-only speedometer. The
comment about getting corroded makes more sense on a electric-only setup
than a mechanical-only connection to the differential.

Can you have grandson look at the back of the differential and tell you
what he sees (or maybe take a digital picture so he can send it to you
and you can send it to us)?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head/beek at Xmas time

[OK Don]

Yup - that was one of my better typos - no idea how that happened!

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Craig  wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 18:11:32 -0500 Dan Penoff  wrote:
>
> > "Beek jerky"?  Never heard of such a thing, but I'm willing to try it.
> >
> > I didn't know you could make anything out of the beek.
> >
> > 
>
> I guess if the person working with it is a big enough jerk, you can do
> just about anything
>
> 
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head/beek at Xmas time

[Craig]

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 18:11:32 -0500 Dan Penoff  wrote:

> "Beek jerky"?  Never heard of such a thing, but I'm willing to try it.
> 
> I didn't know you could make anything out of the beek.
> 
> 

I guess if the person working with it is a big enough jerk, you can do
just about anything




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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...

[dseretakis]

So what have I missed here? Do you need an engine tx in one of your cars? Did 
you do a compression test?

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On Dec 25, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> If I had scored pistons wouldn't the engine start harder because of lowered 
> compression?
> If anything it starts EASIER now. Car-part does have some $600-$700 engines, 
> I was considering a newer, higher performance engine, didn't they change in 
> '83 to have more power? I could at least get one with new type pencil plugs. 
> I've got pencil plugs in this one but I'm not sure the retrofit type are as 
> good as an engine designed for pencil plugs. Last I tried this car wouldn't 
> start below about 15F although as easy as it started the last two days things 
> may have changed...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:34:53 -0600
> From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
> 
>> The block heater was just for insurance, there was some anti-freeze 
>> in the system and it wasn't all that cold. I didn't want to wait up 
>> for the car to cool off, I was beat after our adventure.
>> 
>> I'm assuming that the lack of power and the valve clatter are both 
>> signs of a failed headgasket...
>> 
>> -Curt
> 
> I'm not sure that is a good explanation, but I don't have a good 
> alternate one.  Scored cylinders (melted pistons)  from overheating 
> is the best explanation I have.
> 
> Car-part.com  look for a good engine?  Still probably $1200 or more 
> $600 for engine and $600 for swap.  (unless you DIY, but that is not 
> practical when the flakes are flying and you are not in collyfunkia)
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?

[Craig]

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:56:35 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

> That said based on today's results (see my last message) it looks as
> though this car might get a new lease on life. I'm going to change the
> oil and drive it for a few days to see what happens, if the oil and
> water stay on their respective sides like they're supposed to and I can
> get the valve tick to go away we might be okay...

Sounds like things are going well. I wish you further success! You have
half an ATTABOY at this point. :-)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Ho Ho Ho!

[Dan Penoff]

ROTFLOL!!!


Dan


On Dec 25, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Fmiser wrote:

>> Jim Cathey wrote:
> 
>> I brought out the tuner, and she looked at me like I was nuts.
>> "It's a banjo", said she, and started plucking away.  The
>> transformation is eerie, I say.
> 
> A _serious_ musician once told me this riddle.
> 
>  Q: How do you tune a banjo?
>  A: With wire cutters.
> 
> --Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Ho Ho Ho!

[Fmiser]

> Jim Cathey wrote:

> I brought out the tuner, and she looked at me like I was nuts.
> "It's a banjo", said she, and started plucking away.  The
> transformation is eerie, I say.

A _serious_ musician once told me this riddle.

  Q: How do you tune a banjo?
  A: With wire cutters.

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Re: [MBZ] OT ipad email

[Fmiser]

> Rich Thomas wrote:

> I am trying to send email from an ipad, it says email address
> (this one) rejected by server, which I guess is the okie
> server.   I managed to set it up to get mail OK.  What do I
> need to do to send?

Just like a "real" computer, the send (SMTP) is a whole
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set up, and often use a different server. Like "mail.domain.com"
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For example, to send using a Gmail account, under the section
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Bimmer speedo

[WILTON]

In the photo of inst cluster on the site linked below, I don't see a cable 
connection, but I do see an electrical receptacle; so, it seems that the 
"connector" on diff may be electrical?

Elec connection only to speedo - NO mechanical cable?

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Bimmer speedo




On Dec 24, 2012, at 7:01 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:

Son said entire unit is inop.  I asked about cable; he doesn't know.  Is 
it mechanical much like my now deceased '80 240D?



From my BMW affectionado Pete;

Odometers go out more often
http://forums.eurocca.net/showthread.php/32394-E30-Odometer-Fix

Otherwise if its the speedo, its probably the connector on the back of the 
differential, ive heard of them getting corroded from time to time


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[Rich Thomas]

Pronounced "ban-yay" with a special Cajun or Texas (bay-yan-yay) accent.

--R

On 12/25/2012 5:25 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
I'd guess there are several ways to spell it and several ways to 
pronounce it.  I have seen it as Beignet, so I use that, but in this 
case since Russ is in LA, I figured I'd go with his version.



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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head/beek at Xmas time

[Dan Penoff]

"Beek jerky"?  Never heard of such a thing, but I'm willing to try it.

I didn't know you could make anything out of the beek.



Dan


On Dec 25, 2012, at 6:08 PM, OK Don wrote:

> OK - I NEED the recipe for green chili chicken! Love green chili. Found
> green chili beek jerky, gave it for Christmas. (www.newmexicofoods.net)
> 
> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
> 
>> We're going to go see Les Mis then have green chili chicken. BAM!
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[OK Don]

OK - I NEED the recipe for green chili chicken! Love green chili. Found
green chili beek jerky, gave it for Christmas. (www.newmexicofoods.net)

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:

> We're going to go see Les Mis then have green chili chicken. BAM!
>
> Bob R
>



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Re: [MBZ] Finally some good news

[OK Don]

If it doesn't last, get a genuine Bosch rebuild from Q - that one will last.

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
If it doesn't last I'll get the Autozone unit with its lifetime warranty.

Anyway its not fixed yet but good times are in sight!

-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] Ho Ho Ho!

[OK Don]

24F here, and a the forecasted 5-9" of snow turned into a dusting. We did
the big family dinner last night (leg of lamb), so we're staying in a cosy
today - very nice. Just finished a nice cuppa Darjeeling, looking forward
to Fuller's London Porter with home-made pizza.

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

> 31 deg F, Light dusting of snow, perfect.
>>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...

[G Mann]

Damage from overheat does not always result in scored pistons. However, if
the temp rise is large enough it may heat the pistons to the point the
camber is taken out of them. Pistons have an "egg shape" at the skirt area
to stop piston "slap" as it goes up and down. If the heat rise was enough
it may have deformed the skirt wall "egg" enough to make piston slap become
part of the engine noise set.

It may happen before the rings become hot enough to lose spring tension
that holds them out against the cylinder wall, thus start/run/power is
"relatively unaffected". In fact, as mentioned, start may happen faster
because of loss of friction the starter spins "relatively faster"  Just
a thought.

Was not there, bring the car closer to the computer so I can listen to it
run.. ;)))

Grant...
Had it happen once when  freeze plug blew out after fresh overhaul... oops.

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> If I had scored pistons wouldn't the engine start harder because of
> lowered compression?
> If anything it starts EASIER now. Car-part does have some $600-$700
> engines, I was considering a newer, higher performance engine, didn't they
> change in '83 to have more power? I could at least get one with new type
> pencil plugs. I've got pencil plugs in this one but I'm not sure the
> retrofit type are as good as an engine designed for pencil plugs. Last I
> tried this car wouldn't start below about 15F although as easy as it
> started the last two days things may have changed...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:34:53 -0600
> From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...
> Message-ID: 
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>
> >The block heater was just for insurance, there was some anti-freeze
> >in the system and it wasn't all that cold. I didn't want to wait up
> >for the car to cool off, I was beat after our adventure.
> >
> >I'm assuming that the lack of power and the valve clatter are both
> >signs of a failed headgasket...
> >
> >-Curt
>
> I'm not sure that is a good explanation, but I don't have a good
> alternate one.  Scored cylinders (melted pistons)  from overheating
> is the best explanation I have.
>
> Car-part.com  look for a good engine?  Still probably $1200 or more
> $600 for engine and $600 for swap.  (unless you DIY, but that is not
> practical when the flakes are flying and you are not in collyfunkia)
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Beignets

[RELNGSON]

Back in the days when I was a member of PCA's National Competition Rules 
Committee, we often held our annual meeting in Boulder and breakfasted at a 
frenchy sort of restaurant downtown. A plate or two of fresh hot Beignets were 
always served as sort of a breakfast appetizer. I had never heard of them 
since they were something not seen out my way.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[Dieselhead]

 > >Just finish making Bignets and coffee for breakfast.

 >

 Wow!  bignets!  (pronounced Benyays!)  MMM  We'll be right
 over.  Should be able to get there in a couple hours!  And the rest
 of it sounds really good too!


Wikipedia and others say it's "Beignet", but they do sound really good!




I'd guess there are several ways to spell it and several ways to 
pronounce it.  I have seen it as Beignet, so I use that, but in this 
case since Russ is in LA, I figured I'd go with his version.


Malassadas has a similar discussion.  Two S's or three.  Malassadas 
or malasadas.  One S or two.  Malasada or Malassada.   My most 
Portugee Hawaiian friend says it is Malassada or Malassadas.  It is 
from the conjuntion of two words.


Portugee version of Boule de Berlin  ...  Or maybe the Berliners 
stole it from the Portugee.   Maybe they bot stole it from the 
Latins...   Who probably stole it from the greeks.


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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...

[Brian Toscano]

with lower compression it would spin over faster!

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> If I had scored pistons wouldn't the engine start harder because of
> lowered compression?
> If anything it starts EASIER now. Car-part does have some $600-$700
> engines, I was considering a newer, higher performance engine, didn't they
> change in '83 to have more power? I could at least get one with new type
> pencil plugs. I've got pencil plugs in this one but I'm not sure the
> retrofit type are as good as an engine designed for pencil plugs. Last I
> tried this car wouldn't start below about 15F although as easy as it
> started the last two days things may have changed...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:34:53 -0600
> From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
>
> >The block heater was just for insurance, there was some anti-freeze
> >in the system and it wasn't all that cold. I didn't want to wait up
> >for the car to cool off, I was beat after our adventure.
> >
> >I'm assuming that the lack of power and the valve clatter are both
> >signs of a failed headgasket...
> >
> >-Curt
>
> I'm not sure that is a good explanation, but I don't have a good
> alternate one.  Scored cylinders (melted pistons)  from overheating
> is the best explanation I have.
>
> Car-part.com  look for a good engine?  Still probably $1200 or more
> $600 for engine and $600 for swap.  (unless you DIY, but that is not
> practical when the flakes are flying and you are not in collyfunkia)
>
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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...

[Curt Raymond]

If I had scored pistons wouldn't the engine start harder because of lowered 
compression?
If anything it starts EASIER now. Car-part does have some $600-$700 engines, I 
was considering a newer, higher performance engine, didn't they change in '83 
to have more power? I could at least get one with new type pencil plugs. I've 
got pencil plugs in this one but I'm not sure the retrofit type are as good as 
an engine designed for pencil plugs. Last I tried this car wouldn't start below 
about 15F although as easy as it started the last two days things may have 
changed...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:34:53 -0600
From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...
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>The block heater was just for insurance, there was some anti-freeze 
>in the system and it wasn't all that cold. I didn't want to wait up 
>for the car to cool off, I was beat after our adventure.
>
>I'm assuming that the lack of power and the valve clatter are both 
>signs of a failed headgasket...
>
>-Curt

I'm not sure that is a good explanation, but I don't have a good 
alternate one.  Scored cylinders (melted pistons)  from overheating 
is the best explanation I have.

Car-part.com  look for a good engine?  Still probably $1200 or more 
$600 for engine and $600 for swap.  (unless you DIY, but that is not 
practical when the flakes are flying and you are not in collyfunkia)


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Re: [MBZ] Another piece of good news

[Mitch Haley]

Curt Raymond wrote:

So my plan tomorrow is to go buy two more gallons of Mobil 1 15w50 (which is what I was running anyway) and change the oil. If the worrying tick remains I'll add Lucas oil additive (which is just viscosity improver) until the noise goes away. 


You might also get out your valve wrenches and feeler gauges. Maybe your valve 
tick has a more obvious explanation.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?

[Curt Raymond]

Wikipedia confirms that the D24 that the car I found produces pretty much the 
same 54kW as an OM616, too bad its not a turbo version. The wagon must be 
fairly weighty too. 5spd would be nice though.

I may have to go see the car anyway, I've never seen one for same (not that 
I've really looked) so it'd be worth checking out.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:34:50 -0600
From: Peter Frederick 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?
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A 740TD turbo is a nice car -- 31 mpg on the highway 29 in town,  
wonderful to drive, dead reliable (although mine has been out of the  
count for a while, fuel problems).

Weak points are the injection pump (Bosch distributor single piston  
type) that does NOT like ultra-low sulfur fuel (use additive every  
tank), head prone to cracks between the valves so bad the valve guide  
come loose (just like the VW diesel, same engine but two cylinder).   
Head can be welded, though, unlike a Benz.

Body is bulletproof, but not super safe on off-center collisions  
(nothing that age is).  Rack will eventually start leaking, but they  
aren't expensive to rebuild.

Turbo is noisy, sounds like a distant police siren in stop and to  
traffic, but not audible on the highway.  If you can't hear it, it's  
bad.

Best highway car I've ever had, including a W124.  Seats are a bit  
wider and softer than a Benz, so you don't get "stuck" with extended  
sitting, but you still need to remove your wallet to keep from getting  
a dent in your backside.

I need to revive mine so I can get the 300D back into shape.

The later models (940) didn't get the diesel in the US, so you have  
the choice of a 740 D or TD.  The D is going to be slow, it's a 2.4L  
just like a 240, and as heavy.  If you can find a TD with a 5 speed  
(and they sold some) they are road rockets, really.  0-60 in 8 sec or  
so.

They do smoke more than a Benz -- and if the EGR valve sticks open, as  
they tend to do, they REALLY smoke, just like a bad Mack truck.

  The cold start device causes problems too -- increases the fuel and  
moves the timing up, and this can beat the top of the cylinder walls  
out.  No heavy throttle until fully warmed up, they last forever.   
Heavy foot cold, rebuilt every 150,000 miles.

Peter

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[MBZ] ODBCII Reader

[Dan Penoff]

If anyone is interested, Newegg has their el cheap ODBCII reader on sale 
cheaper than it's ever been to my knowledge - $17.49.

I have one and it does a fine job of reading codes from my cars.  Nothing 
fancy, but saves one a trip to FLAPS for them to read your codes.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0XA0851767&Tpk=9SIA0XA0851767&nm_mc=EMC-GD122512&cm_mmc=EMC-GD122512-_-index-_-Item-_-9SIA0XA0851767

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Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?

[Brian Toscano]

whatever gets you to work and back...

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Massively overheated because the bottom radiator hose came off in the left
> lane of 495 at 75mph I figured the engine might be damaged beyond what the
> car is worth.
> During my ownership this car has slid from "nice low end car" to "jalopy".
> I didn't do a good job keeping it waxed and rust has erupted through the
> paint. Its maybe a 5 out of 10 merely because its still pretty good
> mechanically but its suffering in all the ways you'd expect a 34 year old
> daily driver to be suffering. Needs some front end work, rust remediation,
> interior work and in the end its a pretty base model 240D that I paid $1500
> for 3 years ago. I figure if you can get a year for every $500 of car
> you're doing pretty good.
>
> That said based on today's results (see my last message) it looks as
> though this car might get a new lease on life. I'm going to change the oil
> and drive it for a few days to see what happens, if the oil and water stay
> on their respective sides like they're supposed to and I can get the valve
> tick to go away we might be okay...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 10:10:08 -0700
> From: Craig 
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?
> Message-ID: <20121224101008.e59b0f49955b934564ea7...@pisquared.net>
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>
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:37:33 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
>  wrote:
>
> > With my 240D down for the count one of my options is to buy a new car.
>
> So, what's wrong with your 240D that cannot be fixed?
>
> If you put the amount of money into it that it will take to buy a new
> car, will it be all sorted out?
>
> Or are you just tired of it?
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?

[Curt Raymond]

Massively overheated because the bottom radiator hose came off in the left lane 
of 495 at 75mph I figured the engine might be damaged beyond what the car is 
worth.
During my ownership this car has slid from "nice low end car" to "jalopy". I 
didn't do a good job keeping it waxed and rust has erupted through the paint. 
Its maybe a 5 out of 10 merely because its still pretty good mechanically but 
its suffering in all the ways you'd expect a 34 year old daily driver to be 
suffering. Needs some front end work, rust remediation, interior work and in 
the end its a pretty base model 240D that I paid $1500 for 3 years ago. I 
figure if you can get a year for every $500 of car you're doing pretty good.

That said based on today's results (see my last message) it looks as though 
this car might get a new lease on life. I'm going to change the oil and drive 
it for a few days to see what happens, if the oil and water stay on their 
respective sides like they're supposed to and I can get the valve tick to go 
away we might be okay...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 10:10:08 -0700
From: Craig 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?
Message-ID: <20121224101008.e59b0f49955b934564ea7...@pisquared.net>
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:37:33 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

> With my 240D down for the count one of my options is to buy a new car.

So, what's wrong with your 240D that cannot be fixed?

If you put the amount of money into it that it will take to buy a new
car, will it be all sorted out?

Or are you just tired of it?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Another piece of good news

[Brian Toscano]

Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't.

Though I suppose ticking is better than knocking.

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> To facilitate the alternator removal I'd parked the 240D next to the
> garage up on some 4x4s but we've got 6-12" of snow in the forecast so I
> figured I ought to make sure its mobile enough to at least move for snow
> removal.
>
> I ran it some yesterday both to make sure the alternator still worked
> after re-installation and as it was nose up to hopefully make sure the
> cooling system was completely bled.
>
> Again as with yesterday the car fired right up, its maybe 25F, and idled
> fine with merely a small worrying tick somewhere in the valve train. I
> backed it off the blocks (I'd made a ramp with some 2x6s and firewood for
> supports) and removed all the blocking. Since the engine didn't seem warmed
> up I took it around the block. The worrying tick goes away at low speeds
> but comes back above about 2500rpm but other than that the car seems to
> have proper power and if anything the throttle responds a little better
> than it did before. Is it possible that massively overheating didn't hurt
> much of anything?
>
> So my plan tomorrow is to go buy two more gallons of Mobil 1 15w50 (which
> is what I was running anyway) and change the oil. If the worrying tick
> remains I'll add Lucas oil additive (which is just viscosity improver)
> until the noise goes away.
>
> Years ago my cousin let his sister drive his Ford LTD (the horrible little
> one) while he was away at college, she never added oil and the engine
> ticked like crazy. He changed the oil and put in 2 quarts of STP until it
> quit making noise and drove it for years like that...
>
> -Curt
>
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Re: [MBZ] Finally some good news

[WILTON]

'Hope all goes well.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond" 

To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 3:45 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Finally some good news


Pulled the alternators out of the 190D and 240D yesterday. Contrary to 
popular opinion the 240D's alternator will NOT fit in the 190D, the wiring 
is the same, the bolt pattern is about 1/8" different with the 240D alt 
being slightly smaller in diameter but ever so slightly (like 1/128") 
longer.


Never the less the wiring is the same, now remember the issue, with the 
190D's proper 70a alt in place I had no warning lights for low fuel, brake 
wear, parking brake or alt. With the 240D alt in place (well with the top 
bolt in and wiring on) I had all the warning lights. I figure this is 
enough to fully indict the 190D alternator. Now to get a new one... Car 
Quest had already closed but for $140 they could get one next day (which 
means Thursday now), Autozone could do $130 but couldn't have it until 
early next week. Advance was about the same but could maybe do Friday.
Junkyard unit is $55. We're due to get snow Wed-Thursday so I'm thinking 
to go the junkyard route, it'll have a 30 day warranty, I've got 3 
regulators so I figure I'll clean the slip ring and put in a new regulator 
before I install. Installation on the 190D is trivially easy, longest job 
is jacking up the car and taking the belly pan off...

If it doesn't last I'll get the Autozone unit with its lifetime warranty.

Anyway its not fixed yet but good times are in sight!

-Curt

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[MBZ] Another piece of good news

[Curt Raymond]

To facilitate the alternator removal I'd parked the 240D next to the garage up 
on some 4x4s but we've got 6-12" of snow in the forecast so I figured I ought 
to make sure its mobile enough to at least move for snow removal.

I ran it some yesterday both to make sure the alternator still worked after 
re-installation and as it was nose up to hopefully make sure the cooling system 
was completely bled.

Again as with yesterday the car fired right up, its maybe 25F, and idled fine 
with merely a small worrying tick somewhere in the valve train. I backed it off 
the blocks (I'd made a ramp with some 2x6s and firewood for supports) and 
removed all the blocking. Since the engine didn't seem warmed up I took it 
around the block. The worrying tick goes away at low speeds but comes back 
above about 2500rpm but other than that the car seems to have proper power and 
if anything the throttle responds a little better than it did before. Is it 
possible that massively overheating didn't hurt much of anything?

So my plan tomorrow is to go buy two more gallons of Mobil 1 15w50 (which is 
what I was running anyway) and change the oil. If the worrying tick remains 
I'll add Lucas oil additive (which is just viscosity improver) until the noise 
goes away. 

Years ago my cousin let his sister drive his Ford LTD (the horrible little one) 
while he was away at college, she never added oil and the engine ticked like 
crazy. He changed the oil and put in 2 quarts of STP until it quit making noise 
and drove it for years like that...

-Curt

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[MBZ] Finally some good news

[Curt Raymond]

Pulled the alternators out of the 190D and 240D yesterday. Contrary to popular 
opinion the 240D's alternator will NOT fit in the 190D, the wiring is the same, 
the bolt pattern is about 1/8" different with the 240D alt being slightly 
smaller in diameter but ever so slightly (like 1/128") longer.

Never the less the wiring is the same, now remember the issue, with the 190D's 
proper 70a alt in place I had no warning lights for low fuel, brake wear, 
parking brake or alt. With the 240D alt in place (well with the top bolt in and 
wiring on) I had all the warning lights. I figure this is enough to fully 
indict the 190D alternator. Now to get a new one... Car Quest had already 
closed but for $140 they could get one next day (which means Thursday now), 
Autozone could do $130 but couldn't have it until early next week. Advance was 
about the same but could maybe do Friday.
Junkyard unit is $55. We're due to get snow Wed-Thursday so I'm thinking to go 
the junkyard route, it'll have a 30 day warranty, I've got 3 regulators so I 
figure I'll clean the slip ring and put in a new regulator before I install. 
Installation on the 190D is trivially easy, longest job is jacking up the car 
and taking the belly pan off...
If it doesn't last I'll get the Autozone unit with its lifetime warranty.

Anyway its not fixed yet but good times are in sight!

-Curt

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[MBZ] OT ipad email

[Rich Thomas]

I am trying to send email from an ipad, it says email address (this one) 
rejected by server, which I guess is the okie server.   I managed to set 
it up to get mail OK.  What do I need to do to send?


--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Bimmer speedo

[WILTON]

So, it's a mechanical speedo (with rotating cable drive) a la 240D?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Knoble" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Bimmer speedo




On Dec 24, 2012, at 7:01 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:

Son said entire unit is inop.  I asked about cable; he doesn't know.  Is 
it mechanical much like my now deceased '80 240D?



From my BMW affectionado Pete;

Odometers go out more often
http://forums.eurocca.net/showthread.php/32394-E30-Odometer-Fix

Otherwise if its the speedo, its probably the connector on the back of the 
differential, ive heard of them getting corroded from time to time


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

[Greg Fiorentino]

Lenovo has a very detailed hardware manual on their support site for every
model.  The manual will enable anyone with normal skills to R&R any
component.  Be sure to follow the instructions carefully, some steps are not
intuitive.

Greg 

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Frederick
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 8:11 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

Bad battery charging circuit then.  Don't know if it's a separate part like
it is in a Mac or not, but if it is, it can be easy or nearly impossible to
change, depending on the design.

On my old TiBook it was easy accessed by removing the bottom cover, on the
14" G4 replacement required removing nearly the entire guts of the laptop.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Ho Ho Ho!

[Rich Thomas]

paddle faster!

--R
On 12/25/2012 2:51 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

she's been plucking
away at it for the last hour...



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Re: [MBZ] Ho Ho Ho!

[Jim Cathey]

My kid got some Who swag, he's pleased.

My wife, the semi-snobbish (occasionally) classical musician,
received a banjo from her loving husband.  I guess she liked
it better than I had thought she would, she's been plucking
away at it for the last hour...

"Here's your room, Maestro!"  I guess the joke's on me!

I gave her one box with a guitar bag in it, she guessed banjo,
and unzipped it to find a frying pan with a stick taped to it
inside.  She thought that was funny.  The next box had the axe
in it.

I brought out the tuner, and she looked at me like I was nuts.
"It's a banjo", said she, and started plucking away.  The
transformation is eerie, I say.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: hardware testing

[Jim Cathey]

Tried that did not help. When up unplug the charger it shuts off 
immediately just as if power completely removed


As, in fact, it was.  Did you check for the obvious, such as bent 
battery

contact fingers?  Sometimes the problems aren't all that deep.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Tried that did not help. When up unplug the charger it shuts off immediately 
just as if power completely removed

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 25, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Benz Hogs  wrote:

> Try a battery firmware update.  See: 
> http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/X100e-short-run-time-battery-won-t-completely-charge/ta-p/247381
> 
> 
> Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
> '98 ML320 "Max" (159,xxx mi)
> 
> On 12/25/2012 9:08 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> I have pulled a fully charged battery from another computer and put on it 
>> and it died also
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 24, 2012, at 11:32 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:
>> 
>>> A bad battery, or more likely in a Powerbook or Macbook, a damaged DC in 
>>> board.  Works fine on the charger, but will not charge the battery, so the 
>>> battery is too low all the time to power the computer.
>>> 
>>> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

[Benz Hogs]

Try a battery firmware update.  See: 
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/X100e-short-run-time-battery-won-t-completely-charge/ta-p/247381



Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
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On 12/25/2012 9:08 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

I have pulled a fully charged battery from another computer and put on it and 
it died also

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 24, 2012, at 11:32 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:


A bad battery, or more likely in a Powerbook or Macbook, a damaged DC in board. 
 Works fine on the charger, but will not charge the battery, so the battery is 
too low all the time to power the computer.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Ho Ho Ho!

[Rich Thomas]

The new Dr. Who Christmas special (Snow Men) on BBCA tonight!

My nephew is a total Dr Who addict, got a lot of Doctor swag for gifts.  
He dressed as Dr Who for his dance a month or so ago, looks really 
good.  Told him he should send the pics to the show, maybe he can get a 
guest slot?


--R
On 12/25/2012 11:46 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

'til–midnight bout of Dr. Who at the neighbors' last
night after church. 



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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[Bob Rentfro]

We're going to go see Les Mis then have green chili chicken. BAM!

Bob R
On Dec 25, 2012 9:23 AM, "Rick Knoble"  wrote:

> On Dec 25, 2012, at 9:51 AM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In a cupla days we will go get some shrimp and eatem on the beach
> watching sunset if the weather will cooperate.
>
>
> Lightly oiled Gulf shrimp, seasoned with corexit. I'll pass. Thanks.
>
> Rick
> Spoil sport.
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Re: [MBZ] Ho Ho Ho!

[Jim Cathey]

31 deg F, Light dusting of snow, perfect.


Merry Christmas, all!  27degF here, about 3 inches of snow left
from night before last.  A nice White Christmas (nothing to do
with Berlin's _White Christmas_, finally over after six-odd weeks
of performances, my wife playing most nights), very picturesque
outside, fire blazing in the fireplace, and kidling still asleep
from his 'til–midnight bout of Dr. Who at the neighbors' last
night after church.

Oh, my tea's ready.  Perfect moment, just we two and no chaos
yet.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Ho Ho Ho!

[Dan Penoff]

Already in the 70s (20s for metric folks) here, sunny and clear, which is a 
welcome change for the weather of late.  It has been uncharacteristically 
overcast a great deal lately, which is unusual.

The filet is out to reach room temperature, the fresh corn has been removed 
from the cobs, the dough for the crescent rolls is rising and the fresh Brussel 
sprouts have been washed and drained in anticipation of a quick steaming before 
going in a skillet with some butter and freshly grated Parmesan cheese.

So many cookies and candies around I didn't prepare a dessert. Tomorrow starts 
some serious physical exertion to work some of these calories off...

Dan 

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On Dec 25, 2012, at 11:23 AM, "WILTON"  wrote:

> Sunny, 54F here; headed toward 61F.  We had dinner, family gifts last night 
> 'bout the time Hendrik and Fay were getting their head start.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Craig" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ho Ho Ho!
> 
> 
>> On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 06:18:26 -0800 (PST) Frederick Moir
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> 31 deg F, Light dusting of snow, perfect.
>>> "and to all a good night!"
>> 
>> It's 25 deg.F. here right now. We had 2-3" of snow last night.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Ho Ho Ho!

[WILTON]

Sunny, 54F here; headed toward 61F.  We had dinner, family gifts last night 
'bout the time Hendrik and Fay were getting their head start.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ho Ho Ho!



On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 06:18:26 -0800 (PST) Frederick Moir
 wrote:


31 deg F, Light dusting of snow, perfect.
"and to all a good night!"


It's 25 deg.F. here right now. We had 2-3" of snow last night.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[Rick Knoble]

On Dec 25, 2012, at 9:51 AM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In a cupla days we will go get some shrimp and eatem on the beach watching 
> sunset if the weather will cooperate.


Lightly oiled Gulf shrimp, seasoned with corexit. I'll pass. Thanks. 

Rick
Spoil sport. 
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Re: [MBZ] Ho Ho Ho!

[Craig]

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 06:18:26 -0800 (PST) Frederick Moir
 wrote:

> 31 deg F, Light dusting of snow, perfect.
> "and to all a good night!"

It's 25 deg.F. here right now. We had 2-3" of snow last night.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

[Peter Frederick]

Bad battery charging circuit then.  Don't know if it's a separate part  
like it is in a Mac or not, but if it is, it can be easy or nearly  
impossible to change, depending on the design.


On my old TiBook it was easy accessed by removing the bottom cover, on  
the 14" G4 replacement required removing nearly the entire guts of the  
laptop.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[Craig]

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:52:23 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >Just finish making Bignets and coffee for breakfast.
> >Garlic stuffed Pork Roast going in the oven in 30 min.
> >Fresh Honey Glazed Baby Carrots (from S-I-L's garden), Garlic 
> >Roasted Asparagus,
> >& Jasmin Rice. Cherry or Chocolate pie for desert is the menu here.
> >
> >May Everyone have a Merry MB Christmas.
> 
> 
> Wow!  bignets!  (pronounced Benyays!)  MMM  We'll be right 
> over.  Should be able to get there in a couple hours!  And the rest 
> of it sounds really good too!

Wikipedia and others say it's "Beignet", but they do sound really good!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beignet

Beignet (pronounced /bɛnˈjeɪ/ in English, /bɛˈɲɛ/ in French; French,
literally "bump"),[1] synonymous with the English “fritter”, is the
French term for a pastry made from deep-fried choux paste.[2] Beignets
are commonly known in the U.S. as a dessert served with powdered sugar on
top; however, they may be savory dishes as well and may contain meat,
vegetables, or fruits.[2] They are traditionally prepared right before
consumption to be eaten fresh and hot. Variations of fried dough can be
found across cuisines internationally; however, the origin of the term
beignet is specifically French. In the U.S., beignets have been popular
within New Orleans Creole cuisine and are customarily served as a dessert
or in some sweet variation. They were brought to Louisiana in the 18th
century by French colonists,[3] from “the old mother country”,[4] and
became a large part of home-style Creole cooking, variations often
including banana or plantain – popular fruits in the port city.[5][6]
Today, Café du Monde is a popular New Orleans food destination
specializing in beignets with powdered sugar (served in threes), coffee
with chicory, and café au lait.[7] Beignets were declared the official
state doughnut of Louisiana in 1986.[8]

The tradition of deep-frying fruits for a side dish dates to the time of
Ancient Rome, while the tradition of beignets in Europe is speculated to
have originated with a heavy influence of Islamic culinary tradition.[9]
The term beignet can be applied to two varieties, depending on the type
of pastry. The French-style beignet in the United States has the specific
meaning of deep-fried choux pastry.[10] Beignets can also be made with
yeast pastry,[3] which might be called boules de Berlin in French,
referring to Berliner doughnuts which have a spherical shape (i.e. they
do not have the typical doughnut hole) filled with fruit or jam.

In Corsica, beignets made with chestnut flour (Beignets de farine de
châtaigne) are known as fritelli.


Ingredients

lukewarm water
granulated sugar
active dry yeast
evaporated milk
bread flour
shortening
Oil, for deep-frying
confectioners' sugar

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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[Dieselhead]

No doing anything today, sitting around with my son. Wife is at work 
till 7. We opened ours last night when she got home


Now there's a guy whose got it made.  Send SWMBO out to bring home the bacon!

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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[Dieselhead]

Just finish making Bignets and coffee for breakfast.
Garlic stuffed Pork Roast going in the oven in 30 min.
Fresh Honey Glazed Baby Carrots (from S-I-L's garden), Garlic 
Roasted Asparagus,

& Jasmin Rice. Cherry or Chocolate pie for desert is the menu here.

May Everyone have a Merry MB Christmas.



Wow!  bignets!  (pronounced Benyays!)  MMM  We'll be right 
over.  Should be able to get there in a couple hours!  And the rest 
of it sounds really good too!


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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[Dieselhead]

Near the gu'f for a few days.   Sandy Beaches  Not far from John 
Robbins' parents and Snookie's parents.  Normally I do white sweet 
tater fries, but I have not been able to get em this year.  None in 
the store around turkey day or now.  Been going by the fruitstands to 
late at night or on Sunday when they are closed, so only yalla sweet 
taters this year.


I mix butter flavored popcorn salt and Cookies Flavor Enhancer, ( 
http://store.cookiesbbq.com/ )  sort of a hot version of Lowreys 
Seasoned Salt to put on em when they are done.   Semi-cajun I guess 
maybe.


Las' cupla turkeys turned out perfect  cuz I threw out the directions 
and did em my way.



In a cupla days we will go get some shrimp and eatem on the beach 
watching sunset if the weather will cooperate.   Shrimp on  the beach 
at sunset is a holdover from New years spent in Kona.   Actually, the 
shrimp ring for New years was started long before Kona even.




Yum sweet tater fries.  Where do you live?

--R

On 12/25/2012 9:11 AM, Dieselhead wrote:

then sweet tater fries





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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

No doing anything today, sitting around with my son. Wife is at work till 7. We 
opened ours last night when she got home

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On Dec 25, 2012, at 7:22 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Sun is up and it's about 12C heading up to 26C today. We'll be opening gifts 
> soon and then enjoying some nice filet mignons and shrimp on the grille.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Dec 24, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Hendrik and fay  wrote:
> 
>> Well here the Sun is shining and a lovely 22 degrees C, son is pretty 
>> excited but daughter is being a teenage grinch.
>> Family is starting to drop in and I am thinking about cranking the BBQ and 
>> obviously need a beer whilst working the hotplate, it's the usual stuff 
>> really.
>> Santa left me a new club guernsey and tobacco pouch.
>> Fay, amongst other things, got a reversing camera for the TE, couldn't 
>> afford the fancy SUV she wants. Especially after seeing Reggy got a GL, heck 
>> even the ML's are pricey over here. Does the GL have reversing camera?
>> OK gotta go, Fay is on the my back to organise the guests, so I gotta sign 
>> off and wish you lot a Merry Chrissymess and drama free new year.
>> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RVLfSMIB7K0/SzOfFAVWrII/c4E/xdv0xi9vJJc/s1600-h/SantaMercedes.jpg
>> 
>> Hendrik
>> who who who
>> 
>> On 25/12/12 11:26, Dan Penoff wrote:
>>> Hendrik,
>>> 
>>> How Christmas shaping up so far?
>>> 
>>> Just wanted to get an idea of what to expect.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[Russ Williams]

Just finish making Bignets and coffee for breakfast.
Garlic stuffed Pork Roast going in the oven in 30 min.
Fresh Honey Glazed Baby Carrots (from S-I-L's garden), Garlic Roasted 
Asparagus,

& Jasmin Rice. Cherry or Chocolate pie for desert is the menu here.

May Everyone have a Merry MB Christmas.

On 12/25/2012 08:41, Rich Thomas wrote:

A coonass Christmas!

--R

On 12/25/2012 9:28 AM, Brian Toscano wrote:

Based on an earlier post I think he's in Louisiana for Christmas

On Tuesday, December 25, 2012, Rich Thomas wrote:


Yum sweet tater fries.  Where do you live?

--R

On 12/25/2012 9:11 AM, Dieselhead wrote:


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Re: [MBZ] hardware testing

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I have pulled a fully charged battery from another computer and put on it and 
it died also

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> A bad battery, or more likely in a Powerbook or Macbook, a damaged DC in 
> board.  Works fine on the charger, but will not charge the battery, so the 
> battery is too low all the time to power the computer.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[Peter Frederick]

Very quiet day here, we had the family dinner yesterday since that's  
when my brother could come up from Tennessee.  However, we are  
expecting a blizzard tonight, to I'm going to go and buy some gasoline  
and see if I can get the generator started today, pull some turnips,  
cut the last cabbages in the garden and get the brussels sprouts  
frozen -- those sprouts were a surprise, didn't think there were any  
big enough to eat with the rotten weather this summer.


I'll be shoveling snow tomorrow most likely, unless we get lucky and  
get rain instead of snow.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[Rich Thomas]

A coonass Christmas!

--R

On 12/25/2012 9:28 AM, Brian Toscano wrote:

Based on an earlier post I think he's in Louisiana for Christmas

On Tuesday, December 25, 2012, Rich Thomas wrote:


Yum sweet tater fries.  Where do you live?

--R

On 12/25/2012 9:11 AM, Dieselhead wrote:


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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[Brian Toscano]

Based on an earlier post I think he's in Louisiana for Christmas

On Tuesday, December 25, 2012, Rich Thomas wrote:

> Yum sweet tater fries.  Where do you live?
>
> --R
>
> On 12/25/2012 9:11 AM, Dieselhead wrote:
>
>> then sweet tater fries
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

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Yum sweet tater fries.  Where do you live?

--R

On 12/25/2012 9:11 AM, Dieselhead wrote:
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[MBZ] Ho Ho Ho!

[Frederick Moir]

31 deg F, Light dusting of snow, perfect.
"and to all a good night!"
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[Dieselhead]

63ºF now, headed for a chilly 70º then an 
overnight low of 43º   Will be frying Tom the 
turkey, then sweet tater fries (chips for the oz 
crowd) then I will put the fryer away until 
turkey day.  SWMBO will make cranberry sauce and 
a veg.  Punkin pie later.



Some debate as to what direction to pursue due to 
rain, since hot oil and raindrops don't mix well.


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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[Rich Thomas]

Using an MB grille?  I am trying to decide whether to do the beef 
tenderloin in the oven or the smoky thing outside.


Fogged in here in the mountains, a bit chilly and damp but at least it 
ain't snow or we would be up here until spring.


--R


On 12/25/2012 8:22 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Sun is up and it's about 12C heading up to 26C today. We'll be opening gifts 
soon and then enjoying some nice filet mignons and shrimp on the grille.

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] Getting a head at Xmas time

[Dan Penoff]

Sun is up and it's about 12C heading up to 26C today. We'll be opening gifts 
soon and then enjoying some nice filet mignons and shrimp on the grille.

Dan

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On Dec 24, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Hendrik and fay  wrote:

> Well here the Sun is shining and a lovely 22 degrees C, son is pretty excited 
> but daughter is being a teenage grinch.
> Family is starting to drop in and I am thinking about cranking the BBQ and 
> obviously need a beer whilst working the hotplate, it's the usual stuff 
> really.
> Santa left me a new club guernsey and tobacco pouch.
> Fay, amongst other things, got a reversing camera for the TE, couldn't afford 
> the fancy SUV she wants. Especially after seeing Reggy got a GL, heck even 
> the ML's are pricey over here. Does the GL have reversing camera?
> OK gotta go, Fay is on the my back to organise the guests, so I gotta sign 
> off and wish you lot a Merry Chrissymess and drama free new year.
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RVLfSMIB7K0/SzOfFAVWrII/c4E/xdv0xi9vJJc/s1600-h/SantaMercedes.jpg
> 
> Hendrik
> who who who
> 
> On 25/12/12 11:26, Dan Penoff wrote:
>> Hendrik,
>> 
>> How Christmas shaping up so far?
>> 
>> Just wanted to get an idea of what to expect.
>> 
>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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