[MBZ] New tool
Stanley Rotator (rachet) 3/8 drive. #89-962.Purchased from Walmart $22.47 Rachet continues in same direction when handle is moved back and forth, even one click at a time. When space is limited to swing the handle, this shold double the speed of running a nut up tight. Mechanism seems a little loose. I'll report back if doesn't work as it's supposed to. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pressure cap - was: I think its the end
Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net writes: I just know this, Mercedes designed the system to work with a 15psi pressure cap and it will mildly overheat without the pressure cap in place. As Herr Sainted Dr. Boothe said, (paraphrase) Mercedes designed it that way, operate it that way. In fact any car I've ever operated without the pressure cap in place has boiled over, even (eventually) if just idling. -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pressure cap - was: I think its the end
Why would you run a car without the cap if nothing else is wrong? If there is nothing else wrong the temp should never reach the boiling point of water let alone an antifreeze mix. Basically if your Diesel is idling hot enough to boil over I am betting the cap is not the only problem. The problem with the car in question is obviously not a temp issue but a pressure issue. Bad head or block, maybe blown gasket leaking cylinder pressure into the cooling system is more likely. My $.02, Mike On Jun 17, 2013 8:05 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net writes: I just know this, Mercedes designed the system to work with a 15psi pressure cap and it will mildly overheat without the pressure cap in place. As Herr Sainted Dr. Boothe said, (paraphrase) Mercedes designed it that way, operate it that way. In fact any car I've ever operated without the pressure cap in place has boiled over, even (eventually) if just idling. -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pressure cap - was: I think its the end
On Jun 17, 2013, at 7:05 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: In fact any car I've ever operated without the pressure cap in place has boiled over, even (eventually) if just idling. More anecdotal evidence to say, if you operate your MB with a loose coolant cap, it will overheat. I have no clue why this is, though. Any engineers have a hypothesis? Does Philip care to operate his car with a loose coolant cap to test the theory? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
The thing everybody seems to not want to address is the coolant boiling out of the radiator neck... I put both thermostats in a pan of water, they both begin opening around 165F (the old one maybe slightly sooner) and are fully open at 180F. If they're busted its in some manner that I can't see. -Curt Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:03:48 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think its the end Message-ID: 51be5264.9020...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt, is there any chance the t-stat, if new, is defective, or if old, got fooked when you blew your head gasket? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
That would account for the overheat but not for the coolant bubbling out of the radiator. I think Kevin's theory about a crack somewhere in the block (we went over the head carefully) is the mostly likely answer. -Curt Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:53:35 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think its the end Message-ID: 51be6c1f.5070...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Does the water pump still have fins on the impeller? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vintage MB AD If you can't afford the car on the left....
There is an old black preacher around here who has one like those (not sure what year, but same color) and it is gorgeous. A diesel too! --R On 6/16/13 10:41 PM, Chris James wrote: Vintage '70s Mercedes-Benz AD for their pre-owned cars. If you can't afford the car on the left, maybe you can afford the car on the right.. Link (see comments for AD text): https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=511053382282990l=40c73280c3 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
The thing everybody seems to not want to address is the coolant boiling out of the radiator neck... I put both thermostats in a pan of water, they both begin opening around 165F (the old one maybe slightly sooner) and are fully open at 180F. If they're busted its in some manner that I can't see. -Curt Did the coolant boil out after burping and with a good cap on tight? There was a thread some years ago with Herr Doktor where he advised us all to check our pressure caps and replace every other year on PM principle. I don't know the fizzicks, or thmodynamics, but he assured us a mercedes (at least 123 or newer) with a faulty or loose radiator/coolant bottle cap will overheat. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
I drove up there Sat afternoon from Chapel Hill. The drive was nice until I got near Richmond, and I-95 was a parking lot for like 60 miles to DC, stop and go traffic, 3 lanes bumper to bumper. No clear reason for it other than just too much traffic for the road. Apparently it is always like that except when it is worse. Insanity. --R On 6/16/13 9:50 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: Andrew I'm surprised your mileage is not higher on diesel, but it's been years since i've had 100% dino diesel in the tank! Andrew lives in DC, where you spend almost as much time at zero mph as they do in Los Angeles. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Re: best chain saw NOW Angel Oak
I will ask my Angel Oak experts and see what they say. --R On 6/16/13 6:50 PM, Craig wrote: On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:00:22 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: The Angel Oak is the largest tree east of the sequoias in CA, it is not known how old it is, some say 1400 years, some say maybe a few hundred. There was a scheme to build a bunch of apartment buildings close by, I think we have managed to stop that, the developer went bankrupt and I think the conservation trust people are buying the land to add to the park, so that is good. Why do the branches appear to touch/come very close to the ground? Not like the Live Oaks I see in Savannah, etc. It could be because it is a different variety, or because it is older. For more information, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quercus_virginiana Craig P.S. I trimmed this message, the guys on the digest must be having fits. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 23:13:05 -0500 Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Find the bumpiest road you can and drive there with full heat running. Stop periodically and refill the expansion tank every so often. The water pump and aux pumps will pump the system full. You are thinking OM60x, Curt has an OM616. Alternately, park the front wheels on ramps and fill through the top radiator hose with the defrost running until it runs out of the radiator. Now that will apply to a 240D. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
Not always. My 123 300d has been running just fine for near a year with a crack in the seam of the coolant reservoir so it really holds no pressure at all but does not overheat. Mike On Jun 17, 2013 10:20 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The thing everybody seems to not want to address is the coolant boiling out of the radiator neck... I put both thermostats in a pan of water, they both begin opening around 165F (the old one maybe slightly sooner) and are fully open at 180F. If they're busted its in some manner that I can't see. -Curt Did the coolant boil out after burping and with a good cap on tight? There was a thread some years ago with Herr Doktor where he advised us all to check our pressure caps and replace every other year on PM principle. I don't know the fizzicks, or thmodynamics, but he assured us a mercedes (at least 123 or newer) with a faulty or loose radiator/coolant bottle cap will overheat. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New tool
A neat idea, some kind of planetary gearset inside the head. Is it about the size of a normal socket? How fine is the ratchet, meaning can you swing it good in a small space? I wonder (and only time will tell) if its actually lubricated in the gearset. After much frustration I pulled a Craftsman apart to find it wasn't... A dab of grease made the ratchet much more pleasant. Thats about what I paid for my (pre-reorg) SK ratchet which is a fine American made tool. I bought it when I finally gave up on Craftsman for making junk. -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 05:21:32 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] New tool Message-ID: 3DBE388944224B7A9E7DA9425DE9DC1E@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Stanley Rotator (rachet) 3/8 drive. #89-962.Purchased from Walmart $22.47 Rachet continues in same direction when handle is moved back and forth, even one click at a time. When space is limited to swing the handle, this shold double the speed of running a nut up tight. Mechanism seems a little loose. I'll report back if doesn't work as it's supposed to. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pressure cap - was: I think its the end
Head gasket was replaced last month. I'm betting on the block but will probably never know. -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:03:31 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pressure cap - was: I think its the end Message-ID: calhj_1bnyhktr6qa0oay2+wgwo_apgghhzhouvjspjtzrrr...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Why would you run a car without the cap if nothing else is wrong? If there is nothing else wrong the temp should never reach the boiling point of water let alone an antifreeze mix. Basically if your Diesel is idling hot enough to boil over I am betting the cap is not the only problem. The problem with the car in question is obviously not a temp issue but a pressure issue. Bad head or block, maybe blown gasket leaking cylinder pressure into the cooling system is more likely. My $.02, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
Okay guys this madness has to end, none of you are apparently actually reading anything I write, you've all gotten hung up on the radiator cap. Lets review the facts: #1. '78 240D, no expansion tank, no aux pump. #2. As soon as the car is started coolant starts bubbling out of the hood due to bubbles of gas pushing in there. When the car is shut off there is always one more big bubble of gas which will push around a cup of coolant off. #3. The car overheats sitting running in the driveway. While I appreciate Luther's story it doesn't relate, the car should not overheat sitting in the driveway with the radiator cap off, if it did that would mean there couldn't possibly be enough cooling capacity to go on the highway ever. #4. I drove 5,000 miles (most of it on the highway) with the radiator cap loose and the car didn't overheat. #5. The car will push coolant past the radiator cap and still overheat. #6. There is no cabin heat when running. I would submit at this point that you can knock it off about the radiator cap, the radiator cap will not save this engine... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
I wonder if our failure to communicate is the difference between a 61x engine like my 616 and a 60x engine. Everybody who has offered up tales of woe from a bad or loose pressure cap has talked about a 60x engine. I wonder if that engine has water passages that only get accessed with pressure. Certainly when I put the new radiator in my 240D last fall I could run it up to temp with no radiator cap. You guys do see me writing RADIATOR CAP right? Its in the radiator, right smack in the middle, there is no overflow bottle. Excess coolant goes out on the ground. -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:24:24 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think its the end Message-ID: CALHJ_1BNYV37_2DErg=wcuqgc2pu5qowx0pc_guznblq4jc...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not always. My 123 300d has been running just fine for near a year with a crack in the seam of the coolant reservoir so it really holds no pressure at all but does not overheat. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
Talk of radiator caps reminds me: Nearly 30 years ago, I had taken my still-nearly-new '80 240D (purchased new in Nov '79) into local stealer's for some minor repair or PM one morning; about mid-afternoon I stopped by to check on it and noticed that it was in shop, with hood up. I walked back there to speak to tech about it, etc. As I approached the car, I noticed that the radiator cap was OLD and rusty - not the nearly new, shiny one that was on it when I left the car that morning. I asked tech what had happened to my radiator cap. Tech seemed as surprised as I was - supposedly had not noticed. Some sorry etc., had switched an OLD rusty one with my nearly new one!!! Of course, I had to buy a new one - crapped-upon again. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think its the end The thing everybody seems to not want to address is the coolant boiling out of the radiator neck... I put both thermostats in a pan of water, they both begin opening around 165F (the old one maybe slightly sooner) and are fully open at 180F. If they're busted its in some manner that I can't see. -Curt Did the coolant boil out after burping and with a good cap on tight? There was a thread some years ago with Herr Doktor where he advised us all to check our pressure caps and replace every other year on PM principle. I don't know the fizzicks, or thmodynamics, but he assured us a mercedes (at least 123 or newer) with a faulty or loose radiator/coolant bottle cap will overheat. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New tool
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: (pre-reorg) SK ratchet Uh oh. DId I miss something? Did the maker of SK tools change hands or something like that? Are they not as good as they used to be? I've been depending on SK stuff for years--for me they're the perfect price/quality tradeoff, almost as good as Snappy for Craftsman prices. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
No, this is where you pitch a major fit, in particular in earshot of those browsing the showroom. --R On 6/17/13 10:58 AM, WILTON wrote: Some sorry etc., had switched an OLD rusty one with my nearly new one!!! Of course, I had to buy a new one - crapped-upon again. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
Curt Raymond wrote: #6. There is no cabin heat when running. Now that would seem to point to a circulatory problem. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New tool
I got one of these from Harbor Freight about 25 years ago, seems like the Stanley is similar but you turn the main handle instead of a little t-handle? http://www.amazon.com/Reversible-Sidewinder-Speed-Wrench/dp/B002FHAIYE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
Excuse me but I have been arguing that the cap is not the issue and that you have an issue with cylinder pressure escaping through a crack into the cooling system. Everyone should read ALL of the posts before making a guess. Mike On Jun 17, 2013 10:46 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Okay guys this madness has to end, none of you are apparently actually reading anything I write, you've all gotten hung up on the radiator cap. Lets review the facts: #1. '78 240D, no expansion tank, no aux pump. #2. As soon as the car is started coolant starts bubbling out of the hood due to bubbles of gas pushing in there. When the car is shut off there is always one more big bubble of gas which will push around a cup of coolant off. #3. The car overheats sitting running in the driveway. While I appreciate Luther's story it doesn't relate, the car should not overheat sitting in the driveway with the radiator cap off, if it did that would mean there couldn't possibly be enough cooling capacity to go on the highway ever. #4. I drove 5,000 miles (most of it on the highway) with the radiator cap loose and the car didn't overheat. #5. The car will push coolant past the radiator cap and still overheat. #6. There is no cabin heat when running. I would submit at this point that you can knock it off about the radiator cap, the radiator cap will not save this engine... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:03:51 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: #6. There is no cabin heat when running. Now that would seem to point to a circulatory problem. That's my thought, too. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pressure cap - was: I think its the end
Did you check the block and head to be sure they were not warped when you did the gasket? Mike On Jun 17, 2013 10:51 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Head gasket was replaced last month. I'm betting on the block but will probably never know. -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:03:31 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pressure cap - was: I think its the end Message-ID: calhj_1bnyhktr6qa0oay2+wgwo_apgghhzhouvjspjtzrrr...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Why would you run a car without the cap if nothing else is wrong? If there is nothing else wrong the temp should never reach the boiling point of water let alone an antifreeze mix. Basically if your Diesel is idling hot enough to boil over I am betting the cap is not the only problem. The problem with the car in question is obviously not a temp issue but a pressure issue. Bad head or block, maybe blown gasket leaking cylinder pressure into the cooling system is more likely. My $.02, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:19:53 -0600 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:03:51 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: #6. There is no cabin heat when running. Now that would seem to point to a circulatory problem. That's my thought, too. Although on further consideration, #2. As soon as the car is started coolant starts bubbling out of the hood due to bubbles of gas pushing in there. When the car is shut off there is always one more big bubble of gas which will push around a cup of coolant off, seems to say that it doesn't require any time to get up to temperature before the coolant starts bubbling out. This would indicate a crack somewhere, independent of whether the cooling system is air-free and the heater cores are filled with water. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
Rich Thomas wrote: No, this is where you pitch a major fit, in particular in earshot of those browsing the showroom. What? I paid you bastards $20k for a four cylinder economy car, and you want me to buy a new radiator cap to replace the one that was stolen in your shop? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
Craig wrote: #2. As soon as the car is started coolant starts bubbling out of the hood due to bubbles of gas pushing in there. When the car is shut off there is always one more big bubble of gas which will push around a cup of coolant off, seems to say that it doesn't require any time to get up to temperature before the coolant starts bubbling out. This would indicate a crack somewhere, independent of whether the cooling system is air-free and the heater cores are filled with water. Air in a liquid cooling circuit would be a circulatory problem, right? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I have decided Trent is a thief. He has had 2 weeks to refund the money he took for the goods he has not shipped. I am calling the local cops to file a complaint against him. I have no more patience for his excuses. The cops can listen to them. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New tool
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: (pre-reorg) SK ratchet Uh oh. DId I miss something? Did the maker of SK tools change hands or something like that? Are they not as good as they used to be? I've been depending on SK stuff for years--for me they're the perfect price/quality tradeoff, almost as good as Snappy for Craftsman prices. Well, something happened in the late 1980s to make them change my written lifetime unlimited warranty to 'we'll replace it iff we don't think it was ever misused in its life'. I don't know if that was a change in ownership or just a change in policy. More recently, they went to BK court in 2010: http://toolguyd.com/sk-hand-tools-declares-bankruptcy/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
In some circles, it's called an embolism. :) On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Air in a liquid cooling circuit would be a circulatory problem, right? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New tool
Another new tool: We've all seen cheater pipes, and we've all seen flex head ratchets, but what about a flex head ratchet with a telescoping handle? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Stanley-3-8-Extend-Ratchet/14146063 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
Curt, Woud it be worth a leakdown test before you declare it DOA? Dwight On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: No, this is where you pitch a major fit, in particular in earshot of those browsing the showroom. What? I paid you bastards $20k for a four cylinder economy car, and you want me to buy a new radiator cap to replace the one that was stolen in your shop? Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
My $267.79 paid via USAA credit card. How was yours paid? USAA Credit Card Services has initiated an investigation. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief I have decided Trent is a thief. He has had 2 weeks to refund the money he took for the goods he has not shipped. I am calling the local cops to file a complaint against him. I have no more patience for his excuses. The cops can listen to them. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
He stated he would provide an explanation here, which he has not. He has charged for items, apparently, that have not been provided. He has not provided an explanation to you - or to this group. I'm afraid at this time these actions are those of a thief. Peter On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:14 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My $267.79 paid via USAA credit card. How was yours paid? USAA Credit Card Services has initiated an investigation. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@** constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief I have decided Trent is a thief. He has had 2 weeks to refund the money he took for the goods he has not shipped. I am calling the local cops to file a complaint against him. I have no more patience for his excuses. The cops can listen to them. --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I'd say thief is probably too strong a word, I think rube is probably more like it. That said I think some fools (that'd be us) and their money (unfortunately more of yours than mine) have been parted. I was heartened the other day when he posted but his You'll get an explanation soon has fallen flat. You did pay with a credit card did you not? Call them, they'll fix his gizzard in a hurry. -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:32:20 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief Message-ID: 51bf2c04.2020...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I have decided Trent is a thief. He has had 2 weeks to refund the money he took for the goods he has not shipped. I am calling the local cops to file a complaint against him. I have no more patience for his excuses. The cops can listen to them. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New tool
Dimitri mentioned it to me when he was here helping with the head gasket replacement. They went bankrupt in 2010 and I remember some talk about them maybe not honoring the warranty... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SK_Hand_Tools -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 08:05:12 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] New tool Message-ID: CABHyH=arqrsxaj-hfb_nk8_zn2aezcuvwrio5hnykqump-m...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: (pre-reorg) SK ratchet Uh oh. DId I miss something? Did the maker of SK tools change hands or something like that? Are they not as good as they used to be? I've been depending on SK stuff for years--for me they're the perfect price/quality tradeoff, almost as good as Snappy for Craftsman prices. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New tool
Cheater pipes reminds me: One day last week, I tried to loosen mounting bolts securing blades on my JD mower deck. Used pipe about four+ feet long to add torque; busted/split Thorsen socket. Took deck to stealer for blade, etc., replacement; it still languishes there. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New tool Another new tool: We've all seen cheater pipes, and we've all seen flex head ratchets, but what about a flex head ratchet with a telescoping handle? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Stanley-3-8-Extend-Ratchet/14146063 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
I would tend to agree. I did replace a heater hose so it would stand to reason that the heater system is empty but why can't I get the air out? I left it up on ramps for half a day, every time I start it the coolant comes splashing out. At first I just thought it was burping but it can't continue to be burping for the amount of time I've had it running, where would the air come from? If you can come up with a theory that involves a failed water pump somehow forcing air into the system which would burp out the coolant I'll continue troubleshooting... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:03:51 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think its the end Message-ID: 51bf2557.8090...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: #6. There is no cabin heat when running. Now that would seem to point to a circulatory problem. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
Curt, Put a pressure tester from FLAPS loan a tool on it. Do not pump it up. Turn over engine. If guage goes up you have cylinder pressure in cooling system. That is where the air comes from. Mike On Jun 17, 2013 12:29 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I would tend to agree. I did replace a heater hose so it would stand to reason that the heater system is empty but why can't I get the air out? I left it up on ramps for half a day, every time I start it the coolant comes splashing out. At first I just thought it was burping but it can't continue to be burping for the amount of time I've had it running, where would the air come from? If you can come up with a theory that involves a failed water pump somehow forcing air into the system which would burp out the coolant I'll continue troubleshooting... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:03:51 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think its the end Message-ID: 51bf2557.8090...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: #6. There is no cabin heat when running. Now that would seem to point to a circulatory problem. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Young lady at the Sterling IL po-po office says I have to file a report with my local jurisdiction and then let them deal with it (yeah, right). I will do that and stay on them about following up. I have some minimal (positive) relationship with the Sheriff and some of his top deputies, will check in with them and see what they suggest. --R On 6/17/13 12:24 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: He stated he would provide an explanation here, which he has not. He has charged for items, apparently, that have not been provided. He has not provided an explanation to you - or to this group. I'm afraid at this time these actions are those of a thief. Peter On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:14 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My $267.79 paid via USAA credit card. How was yours paid? USAA Credit Card Services has initiated an investigation. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@** constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief I have decided Trent is a thief. He has had 2 weeks to refund the money he took for the goods he has not shipped. I am calling the local cops to file a complaint against him. I have no more patience for his excuses. The cops can listen to them. --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Since Rusty has inside knowledge and far more insight on the situation than anyone here, it would be of great interest to get his input as to what is going on. Considering that those of us who patronized Trent did so based on the goodwill that Rusty had established over the years as a supplier. After all, as I understood the arrangements, doesn't Rusty have a vested interest in Trent's success (or failure)? Rusty? Sent from my iPad On Jun 17, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd say thief is probably too strong a word, I think rube is probably more like it. That said I think some fools (that'd be us) and their money (unfortunately more of yours than mine) have been parted. I was heartened the other day when he posted but his You'll get an explanation soon has fallen flat. You did pay with a credit card did you not? Call them, they'll fix his gizzard in a hurry. -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:32:20 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief Message-ID: 51bf2c04.2020...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I have decided Trent is a thief. He has had 2 weeks to refund the money he took for the goods he has not shipped. I am calling the local cops to file a complaint against him. I have no more patience for his excuses. The cops can listen to them. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I understood Rusty's last missive to say that he was in the same boat as us, that Trent wouldn't return his calls and he had done what he could... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:49:56 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief Message-ID: 34ef6aa0-bcd1-4cfb-89e0-2fcef0175...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Since Rusty has inside knowledge and far more insight on the situation than anyone here, it would be of great interest to get his input as to what is going on. Considering that those of us who patronized Trent did so based on the goodwill that Rusty had established over the years as a supplier. After all, as I understood the arrangements, doesn't Rusty have a vested interest in Trent's success (or failure)? Rusty? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
That's what I understood, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief I understood Rusty's last missive to say that he was in the same boat as us, that Trent wouldn't return his calls and he had done what he could... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:49:56 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief Message-ID: 34ef6aa0-bcd1-4cfb-89e0-2fcef0175...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Since Rusty has inside knowledge and far more insight on the situation than anyone here, it would be of great interest to get his input as to what is going on. Considering that those of us who patronized Trent did so based on the goodwill that Rusty had established over the years as a supplier. After all, as I understood the arrangements, doesn't Rusty have a vested interest in Trent's success (or failure)? Rusty? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
In your case, is there a bank or credit card company involved? My credit card company (USAA) is involved. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief Young lady at the Sterling IL po-po office says I have to file a report with my local jurisdiction and then let them deal with it (yeah, right). I will do that and stay on them about following up. I have some minimal (positive) relationship with the Sheriff and some of his top deputies, will check in with them and see what they suggest. --R On 6/17/13 12:24 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: He stated he would provide an explanation here, which he has not. He has charged for items, apparently, that have not been provided. He has not provided an explanation to you - or to this group. I'm afraid at this time these actions are those of a thief. Peter On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:14 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My $267.79 paid via USAA credit card. How was yours paid? USAA Credit Card Services has initiated an investigation. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@** constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief I have decided Trent is a thief. He has had 2 weeks to refund the money he took for the goods he has not shipped. I am calling the local cops to file a complaint against him. I have no more patience for his excuses. The cops can listen to them. --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I called the local Sterling IL po-po who said I had to file a complaint with my local jurisdiction and they would have to take it from there. So I am trying to find out how to do that with the Sheriff. Other info: http://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w211/295836-beware-buymbparts-com.html#post5681897 I have no issues one way or the other with Gary and have contacted him to get stuff, he apparently has heard about others having a problem with this Trent guy. I am staying out of any other issues with Gary/Rusty as none of that really has a bearing on getting parts from one or the other (and apparently Gary is reliable, I know Rusty was), so I am a neutral party in that regard. The issue is with this Trent guy now. --R On 6/17/13 1:06 PM, WILTON wrote: That's what I understood, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief I understood Rusty's last missive to say that he was in the same boat as us, that Trent wouldn't return his calls and he had done what he could... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:49:56 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief Message-ID: 34ef6aa0-bcd1-4cfb-89e0-2fcef0175...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Since Rusty has inside knowledge and far more insight on the situation than anyone here, it would be of great interest to get his input as to what is going on. Considering that those of us who patronized Trent did so based on the goodwill that Rusty had established over the years as a supplier. After all, as I understood the arrangements, doesn't Rusty have a vested interest in Trent's success (or failure)? Rusty? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
Been like that every time I have gone that way over the last few years. Used to be a quick shot straight through on 95. Now the bypasses are just as bad and sometimes worse. Mike On Jun 17, 2013 10:21 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I drove up there Sat afternoon from Chapel Hill. The drive was nice until I got near Richmond, and I-95 was a parking lot for like 60 miles to DC, stop and go traffic, 3 lanes bumper to bumper. No clear reason for it other than just too much traffic for the road. Apparently it is always like that except when it is worse. Insanity. --R On 6/16/13 9:50 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: Andrew I'm surprised your mileage is not higher on diesel, but it's been years since i've had 100% dino diesel in the tank! Andrew lives in DC, where you spend almost as much time at zero mph as they do in Los Angeles. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more crazy travel
FIlters are clear, lines clean, fuses are shiny and intact, and the AC blows ICE COLD. Might be the result of a shotgun marriage between and '83 engine and '85 transmission. On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I get 20 mpg in my dino fueled 1983 300td for mixed driving, no long hway stretches. Isn't that awfully low for a turbo 617? Are you sure you don't have a clogged cat, stuck EGR, dirty fuel filters, etc.? (Have you CHANGED your FUSES?) 20MPG would be a little on the low side for a 617, but they don't do a whole lot better than mid-20's, in my experience. No cat. -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Me, too, re. Gary/Rusty. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief I called the local Sterling IL po-po who said I had to file a complaint with my local jurisdiction and they would have to take it from there. So I am trying to find out how to do that with the Sheriff. Other info: http://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w211/295836-beware-buymbparts-com.html#post5681897 I have no issues one way or the other with Gary and have contacted him to get stuff, he apparently has heard about others having a problem with this Trent guy. I am staying out of any other issues with Gary/Rusty as none of that really has a bearing on getting parts from one or the other (and apparently Gary is reliable, I know Rusty was), so I am a neutral party in that regard. The issue is with this Trent guy now. --R On 6/17/13 1:06 PM, WILTON wrote: That's what I understood, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief I understood Rusty's last missive to say that he was in the same boat as us, that Trent wouldn't return his calls and he had done what he could... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:49:56 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief Message-ID: 34ef6aa0-bcd1-4cfb-89e0-2fcef0175...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Since Rusty has inside knowledge and far more insight on the situation than anyone here, it would be of great interest to get his input as to what is going on. Considering that those of us who patronized Trent did so based on the goodwill that Rusty had established over the years as a supplier. After all, as I understood the arrangements, doesn't Rusty have a vested interest in Trent's success (or failure)? Rusty? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I lost track of some of this with all the traffic. If he's cut Rusty off as well that does not bode well... Dan On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I understood Rusty's last missive to say that he was in the same boat as us, that Trent wouldn't return his calls and he had done what he could... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:49:56 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief Message-ID: 34ef6aa0-bcd1-4cfb-89e0-2fcef0175...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Since Rusty has inside knowledge and far more insight on the situation than anyone here, it would be of great interest to get his input as to what is going on. Considering that those of us who patronized Trent did so based on the goodwill that Rusty had established over the years as a supplier. After all, as I understood the arrangements, doesn't Rusty have a vested interest in Trent's success (or failure)? Rusty? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New tool
WILTON wrote: Cheater pipes reminds me: One day last week, I tried to loosen mounting bolts securing blades on my JD mower deck. Used pipe about four+ feet long to add torque; busted/split Thorsen socket. Took deck to stealer for blade, etc., replacement; it still languishes there. Great customer service. All you need is a few seconds with an impact wrench that could remove stuck lug nuts from a car. If I were the outdoor power equipment mechanic, I would have had you drive your trailer to a place where I could run an air hose and installed them for free if you'd bought them there. Unless something was seriously wrong, I'd have the blades swapped faster than I could write a work order. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Dan Penoff wrote: After all, as I understood the arrangements, doesn't Rusty have a vested interest in Trent's success (or failure)? I don't know if the price depends on future revenues from existing customers, or if Trent's ability to finish paying Rusty depends on future profitability. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New tool
'Zackly. Just called about it. Needed an additional mulching shield on underside. Last Tue afternoon, parts guy said he could have it here in 2 days. Word from service guy now is, They've had problem getting the mulching shield - s'posed to be here in the morning. I suspect not ordered in timely manner. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New tool WILTON wrote: Cheater pipes reminds me: One day last week, I tried to loosen mounting bolts securing blades on my JD mower deck. Used pipe about four+ feet long to add torque; busted/split Thorsen socket. Took deck to stealer for blade, etc., replacement; it still languishes there. Great customer service. All you need is a few seconds with an impact wrench that could remove stuck lug nuts from a car. If I were the outdoor power equipment mechanic, I would have had you drive your trailer to a place where I could run an air hose and installed them for free if you'd bought them there. Unless something was seriously wrong, I'd have the blades swapped faster than I could write a work order. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MPG (was: Re: more crazy travel)
we typically see ~20MPG in mixed tanks of 'round-town and hwy flying while on B99 BioD. just got back from another thousand-mile weekend, turning 80+ MPH for hours on I5 with the AC on in temps over 90*F in the Central Valley mixed with some stopslow one way through Los(t) Angeles. filling up with #2 at a couple of truck stops, it looks like we were seeing something in the range of 23MPG. saw indicated coolant temps briefly creep to ~110C while climbing the Grapevine both ways while still floating past much of the traffic, but otherwise saw ~90-95*C most of the time. still feels pretty good for and old car that looks and cruises as nicely as it does. cheers! e '85 300D (Calif car) On 16/Jun/13 18:31, Allan Streib wrote: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I get 20 mpg in my dino fueled 1983 300td for mixed driving, no long hway stretches. Isn't that awfully low for a turbo 617? Are you sure you don't have a clogged cat, stuck EGR, dirty fuel filters, etc.? (Have you CHANGED your FUSES?) 20MPG would be a little on the low side for a 617, but they don't do a whole lot better than mid-20's, in my experience. No cat. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
There they go again, turning every statement I make into a political circus. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Been like that every time I have gone that way over the last few years. Used to be a quick shot straight through on 95. Now the bypasses are just as bad and sometimes worse. Mike On Jun 17, 2013 10:21 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I drove up there Sat afternoon from Chapel Hill. The drive was nice until I got near Richmond, and I-95 was a parking lot for like 60 miles to DC, stop and go traffic, 3 lanes bumper to bumper. No clear reason for it other than just too much traffic for the road. Apparently it is always like that except when it is worse. Insanity. --R On 6/16/13 9:50 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: Andrew I'm surprised your mileage is not higher on diesel, but it's been years since i've had 100% dino diesel in the tank! Andrew lives in DC, where you spend almost as much time at zero mph as they do in Los Angeles. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: There they go again, turning every statement I make into a political circus. Tongue in cheek, I assume? Otherwise, what's political about saying roads are clogged and traffic flows like molasses in a certain area? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Curious as to why Rich is dealing with a po-po office (whatever that is) in Sterling, IL? On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Young lady at the Sterling IL po-po office says I have to file a report with my local jurisdiction and then let them deal with it (yeah, right). I will do that and stay on them about following up. I have some minimal (positive) relationship with the Sheriff and some of his top deputies, will check in with them and see what they suggest. --R On 6/17/13 12:24 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: He stated he would provide an explanation here, which he has not. He has charged for items, apparently, that have not been provided. He has not provided an explanation to you - or to this group. I'm afraid at this time these actions are those of a thief. Peter On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:14 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My $267.79 paid via USAA credit card. How was yours paid? USAA Credit Card Services has initiated an investigation. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@** constructivity.net richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief I have decided Trent is a thief. He has had 2 weeks to refund the money he took for the goods he has not shipped. I am calling the local cops to file a complaint against him. I have no more patience for his excuses. The cops can listen to them. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
po-po is slang for the police. Rich feels he has been stolen from and the theft happened in Sterling, IL. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (166,xxx mi) On 6/17/2013 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Curious as to why Rich is dealing with a po-po office (whatever that is) in Sterling, IL? On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Young lady at the Sterling IL po-po office says I have to file a report with my local jurisdiction and then let them deal with it (yeah, right). I will do that and stay on them about following up. I have some minimal (positive) relationship with the Sheriff and some of his top deputies, will check in with them and see what they suggest. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Police? I vaguely remember East German police as being referred to as po-pos, n'est-ce pas; ist es nicht? Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief Curious as to why Rich is dealing with a po-po office (whatever that is) in Sterling, IL? On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Young lady at the Sterling IL po-po office says I have to file a report with my local jurisdiction and then let them deal with it (yeah, right). I will do that and stay on them about following up. I have some minimal (positive) relationship with the Sheriff and some of his top deputies, will check in with them and see what they suggest. --R On 6/17/13 12:24 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: He stated he would provide an explanation here, which he has not. He has charged for items, apparently, that have not been provided. He has not provided an explanation to you - or to this group. I'm afraid at this time these actions are those of a thief. Peter On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:14 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My $267.79 paid via USAA credit card. How was yours paid? USAA Credit Card Services has initiated an investigation. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@** constructivity.net richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief I have decided Trent is a thief. He has had 2 weeks to refund the money he took for the goods he has not shipped. I am calling the local cops to file a complaint against him. I have no more patience for his excuses. The cops can listen to them. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
When you live in the center ring of the worlds largest circus, and you always stick to the script, it might be presumed correctly. Grant... From way up in the nosebleed seats... ;)) On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: There they go again, turning every statement I make into a political circus. Tongue in cheek, I assume? Otherwise, what's political about saying roads are clogged and traffic flows like molasses in a certain area? Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
You and your ilk turn my every post into an opportunity to launch a diabtribe against our (your) nation's capitol and its perceived liberal bias. I find it amusing, however, so please don't pretend to be objective. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: There they go again, turning every statement I make into a political circus. Tongue in cheek, I assume? Otherwise, what's political about saying roads are clogged and traffic flows like molasses in a certain area? Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I think you need to contact the State's Attorney or County Attorney Contact info: http://www.usa.gov/directory/stateconsumer/illinois.shtml Per: http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0221-billed-merchandise-you-never-received-heres-what-do Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (166,xxx mi) On 6/17/2013 11:43 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Young lady at the Sterling IL po-po office says I have to file a report with my local jurisdiction and then let them deal with it (yeah, right). I will do that and stay on them about following up. I have some minimal (positive) relationship with the Sheriff and some of his top deputies, will check in with them and see what they suggest. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I left msgs on answering machine, others that were supposedly Faxed to 'im; I also Faxed msgs directly and via registered mail. Still no answer and no parts at a cost of $267.79 via USAA Credit Card Services. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief I left a message (the answering service apparently texts or emails him or something, it is not possible to reach him directly) that I was initiating legal action against him. THought it best to at least give him a warning. --R On 6/17/13 12:24 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: He stated he would provide an explanation here, which he has not. He has charged for items, apparently, that have not been provided. He has not provided an explanation to you - or to this group. I'm afraid at this time these actions are those of a thief. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Debit card, the order hit my bank acct almost immediately after placing the order. I'll let you know what I find out. --R On 6/17/13 12:14 PM, WILTON wrote: My $267.79 paid via USAA credit card. How was yours paid? USAA Credit Card Services has initiated an investigation. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief I have decided Trent is a thief. He has had 2 weeks to refund the money he took for the goods he has not shipped. I am calling the local cops to file a complaint against him. I have no more patience for his excuses. The cops can listen to them. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
Seriously, I got 20 mpg on my NA 79 300TD and a but more (maybe 22) on the highway. My bigger turbo 300SD gets 25 mpg and maybe 27 on the highway. Both on DF2. I went to UVA back in the mid 60s and the DC area was a just a bunch of sleepy little towns with few traffic problems. I often drove through the area going between NJ and VA. We even went to DC to buy booze or to go to a nice restaurant or watch the airplanes takeoff and land at National. The area has since grown like a cancer, IMO (under Ds and Rs). It's easy to see where so much of our tax $$$ are going. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 2:59 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mileage Andrew Strasfogel wrote: There they go again, turning every statement I make into a political circus. Tongue in cheek, I assume? Otherwise, what's political about saying roads are clogged and traffic flows like molasses in a certain area? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
There is nothing subjective about having to borrow 40% if federal spending. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mileage You and your ilk turn my every post into an opportunity to launch a diabtribe against our (your) nation's capitol and its perceived liberal bias. I find it amusing, however, so please don't pretend to be objective. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: There they go again, turning every statement I make into a political circus. Tongue in cheek, I assume? Otherwise, what's political about saying roads are clogged and traffic flows like molasses in a certain area? Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://m ail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] hose just like an sls hi pressure hose
Folks, Here's a forklift story. Yesterday, i needed to unload and load some printing machines from and to my isuzu NPR truck. A friend had taken the battery for my Dadsumforklift. Said it was his and it probably was. So installed another group 24 battery that i had. Fortunately i stated it with the hood (seat) up so i could see the engine. Liquid propane was pouring out of a hose. I guess he dragged the battery across the braided hose. I took it off and there were no options on saturday for hose repair in athens, ga. So today i went to my hose guy. It's the same 3/8 9.5 mm hose as the SLS hi pressure hose on my 300td with same style removeable fittings. We unscrewed the end with tubing wrenches then LEFT HAND THREADS we unscrewed the collar on the outside and it was a simple matter to lube and insert it all to the replacement hose looks good $15. i did it in their shop on their vice I'm about to install and hopefully get back to work without a propane leak! thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: You and your ilk turn my every post into an opportunity to launch a diabtribe against our (your) nation's capitol and its perceived liberal bias. I find it amusing, however, so please don't pretend to be objective. You are paranoid, or more likely paranoid-delusional. Is that a job requirement where you work? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I left a message (the answering service apparently texts or emails him or something, it is not possible to reach him directly) that I was initiating legal action against him. THought it best to at least give him a warning. --R On 6/17/13 12:24 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: He stated he would provide an explanation here, which he has not. He has charged for items, apparently, that have not been provided. He has not provided an explanation to you - or to this group. I'm afraid at this time these actions are those of a thief. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
Wow Andrew. How do you turn a talk about traffic into politics? You simply accuse someone else of doing it appatently. Mike Who was simply passing on travel info On Jun 17, 2013 3:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: There they go again, turning every statement I make into a political circus. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Been like that every time I have gone that way over the last few years. Used to be a quick shot straight through on 95. Now the bypasses are just as bad and sometimes worse. Mike On Jun 17, 2013 10:21 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I drove up there Sat afternoon from Chapel Hill. The drive was nice until I got near Richmond, and I-95 was a parking lot for like 60 miles to DC, stop and go traffic, 3 lanes bumper to bumper. No clear reason for it other than just too much traffic for the road. Apparently it is always like that except when it is worse. Insanity. --R On 6/16/13 9:50 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: Andrew I'm surprised your mileage is not higher on diesel, but it's been years since i've had 100% dino diesel in the tank! Andrew lives in DC, where you spend almost as much time at zero mph as they do in Los Angeles. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Starving Youngsters: was 44 years OT
Brian wrote: I wish I paid a fraction of what I do in taxes and the welfare folks got off their lard asses and did something productive. I think the ILLEGAL immigrants should be convicted felons and sent back where they came from. BECAUSE THEY BROKE THE THE LAW. In principle, none of these will ever happen - the gap between any of your ideas and reality - it is lalaland dream only. We need to do what we can as individuals to do what is necessary rather than sit on our wringing hands and wonder when them folks in DC will ever get around to managing things. None of these things can be managed by DC - they know it, they feed off the anxiety and wringing hands. We are being played. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Rich, Just out of curiosity and I am sorry if I missed it earlier, how much money are your out? Jon On Jun 17, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I left a message (the answering service apparently texts or emails him or something, it is not possible to reach him directly) that I was initiating legal action against him. THought it best to at least give him a warning. --R On 6/17/13 12:24 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: He stated he would provide an explanation here, which he has not. He has charged for items, apparently, that have not been provided. He has not provided an explanation to you - or to this group. I'm afraid at this time these actions are those of a thief. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vintage MB AD If you can't afford the car on the left....
Chris J, wrote: Vintage '70s Mercedes-Benz AD for their pre-owned cars. Tell us about gmx mail - I see your email is @gmx. Is the interface like gmail? or do I need separate client to read plain text email similar to skinny popcorn or the other bloatware windows offerings? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pressure cap - was: I think its the end
Curt wrote: Head gasket was replaced last month. I'm betting on the block but will probably never know. Say it ain't so. A 616 with corrupt head? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
The traffic isn't half bad if you live inside the beltway and know the arcane short cuts to get around. Still, I avoid driving through downtown like the plague betweween 4:30 and 6:00. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Wow Andrew. How do you turn a talk about traffic into politics? You simply accuse someone else of doing it appatently. Mike Who was simply passing on travel info On Jun 17, 2013 3:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: There they go again, turning every statement I make into a political circus. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Been like that every time I have gone that way over the last few years. Used to be a quick shot straight through on 95. Now the bypasses are just as bad and sometimes worse. Mike On Jun 17, 2013 10:21 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I drove up there Sat afternoon from Chapel Hill. The drive was nice until I got near Richmond, and I-95 was a parking lot for like 60 miles to DC, stop and go traffic, 3 lanes bumper to bumper. No clear reason for it other than just too much traffic for the road. Apparently it is always like that except when it is worse. Insanity. --R On 6/16/13 9:50 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: Andrew I'm surprised your mileage is not higher on diesel, but it's been years since i've had 100% dino diesel in the tank! Andrew lives in DC, where you spend almost as much time at zero mph as they do in Los Angeles. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: The traffic isn't half bad if you live inside the beltway and know the arcane short cuts to get around. Still, I avoid driving through downtown like the plague betweween 4:30 and 6:00. So, are you saying that the driving you actually do isn't markedly different than anybody else who lives in a city? Could have just said that in the first place. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
That really hurts. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Rich, Just out of curiosity and I am sorry if I missed it earlier, how much money are your out? Jon On Jun 17, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I left a message (the answering service apparently texts or emails him or something, it is not possible to reach him directly) that I was initiating legal action against him. THought it best to at least give him a warning. --R On 6/17/13 12:24 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: He stated he would provide an explanation here, which he has not. He has charged for items, apparently, that have not been provided. He has not provided an explanation to you - or to this group. I'm afraid at this time these actions are those of a thief. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
Is this the 616 with 40mm rad hose that you replaced last week instead of paying the stealer for OE hose? Buy the china hose to see if it works, then buy the OE hose to make it work properly? Cauldron sounds at startup and no cabin heat - that can't be. I doubt head compromise or water passage blockage - except at some gasket point, i.e. perhaps head gasket has water passage that is blocked and is passing combustion gas to the cooling system? Can you get the off-gas tested for combustion gas? Combustion gas would certainly heat the coolant. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
Mountain Man wrote: Is this the 616 with 40mm rad hose that you replaced last week instead of paying the stealer for OE hose? Buy the china hose to see if it works, then buy the OE hose to make it work properly? Cauldron sounds at startup and no cabin heat - that can't be. I doubt head compromise or water passage blockage - except at some gasket point, i.e. perhaps head gasket has water passage that is blocked and is passing combustion gas to the cooling system? Can you get the off-gas tested for combustion gas? Combustion gas would certainly heat the coolant. It's the car that recently had a weekend head gasket party in its honor. Partygoers were disappointed at not being able to find the break in the old head gasket IIRC. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
I am saying that the DC traffic patterns are actually very user friendly IF you know how to take advantage of them. In other words, traffic here isn't as bad as the rest of the world seems to believe. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: The traffic isn't half bad if you live inside the beltway and know the arcane short cuts to get around. Still, I avoid driving through downtown like the plague betweween 4:30 and 6:00. So, are you saying that the driving you actually do isn't markedly different than anybody else who lives in a city? Could have just said that in the first place. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Anytime anyone is taken advantage of, it really hurts. There are different ways and means to recover losses. I was just curious, so that I could recommend possible avenues. Jon On Jun 17, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That really hurts. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Rich, Just out of curiosity and I am sorry if I missed it earlier, how much money are your out? Jon On Jun 17, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I left a message (the answering service apparently texts or emails him or something, it is not possible to reach him directly) that I was initiating legal action against him. THought it best to at least give him a warning. --R On 6/17/13 12:24 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: He stated he would provide an explanation here, which he has not. He has charged for items, apparently, that have not been provided. He has not provided an explanation to you - or to this group. I'm afraid at this time these actions are those of a thief. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Mine was pretty quick, too. Have you you talked to bank about it? Is there any provision for bank involvement? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief Debit card, the order hit my bank acct almost immediately after placing the order. I'll let you know what I find out. --R On 6/17/13 12:14 PM, WILTON wrote: My $267.79 paid via USAA credit card. How was yours paid? USAA Credit Card Services has initiated an investigation. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief I have decided Trent is a thief. He has had 2 weeks to refund the money he took for the goods he has not shipped. I am calling the local cops to file a complaint against him. I have no more patience for his excuses. The cops can listen to them. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vintage MB AD (OT-GMX Mail)
Pretty similar I guess, but I hardly log into either. Thunderbird is the default mail client I use for all my accounts. One feature of gmx mail is that you can have multiple addresses (5-10?) for the same account. Gmail only allows one I believe. On 6/17/2013 4:10 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Tell us about gmx mail - I see your email is @gmx. Is the interface like gmail? or do I need separate client to read plain text email similar to skinny popcorn or the other bloatware windows offerings? Thanks. mao -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Even, if not much money, a helluva lota principle. There is no substitute for integrity in any endeavor. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief Rich, Just out of curiosity and I am sorry if I missed it earlier, how much money are your out? Jon On Jun 17, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I left a message (the answering service apparently texts or emails him or something, it is not possible to reach him directly) that I was initiating legal action against him. THought it best to at least give him a warning. --R On 6/17/13 12:24 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: He stated he would provide an explanation here, which he has not. He has charged for items, apparently, that have not been provided. He has not provided an explanation to you - or to this group. I'm afraid at this time these actions are those of a thief. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
Not all of us. I suggested a crack somewhere, on Friday afternoon. Should be able to pressurize the system and look for a leak. If combustion pressures are causing fluid to blow out of the system, then one would think it must be in the upper reaches of the cylinder wall or the head? More likely the head? Heat causes the crack to open more maybe which is why it blows out coolant when it is hot? Can one pressurize the system and look for coolant to appear in one or more of the cylinders? Randy who is rambling no doubt On 17/06/2013 9:46 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Okay guys this madness has to end, none of you are apparently actually reading anything I write, you've all gotten hung up on the radiator cap. Lets review the facts: #1. '78 240D, no expansion tank, no aux pump. #2. As soon as the car is started coolant starts bubbling out of the hood due to bubbles of gas pushing in there. When the car is shut off there is always one more big bubble of gas which will push around a cup of coolant off. #3. The car overheats sitting running in the driveway. While I appreciate Luther's story it doesn't relate, the car should not overheat sitting in the driveway with the radiator cap off, if it did that would mean there couldn't possibly be enough cooling capacity to go on the highway ever. #4. I drove 5,000 miles (most of it on the highway) with the radiator cap loose and the car didn't overheat. #5. The car will push coolant past the radiator cap and still overheat. #6. There is no cabin heat when running. I would submit at this point that you can knock it off about the radiator cap, the radiator cap will not save this engine... -Curt ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Is it time in this thread to post some of the banned info that circulated a couple months ago? Or did --R put that stuff up here also? In which case, similar situation only worse this time? i.e. real personal problems? So, do we nail him to the wall to extract $$ he doesn't have nor is able to produce? - or do we as the wealthy american consumer (because we are DIY) take the $300 loss and move on? Yes, it is sad to lose parts and $, but character assassination or degradation of a human being over replaceable $$ can be handled quite humanely - don't buy there again, wait to hear from him like you would like to be heard from if/when you are in a bine, be religious about things, i.e. forgive, be charitable, etc. Chase it if you want to be typical china cheap american, but otherwise be humane, don't buy there again. We are merely people, we all have problems, we all get in a fix from time to time, we all help each other out, otherwise, why read/respond at okiebenz helping $%@ Curt with his $#@# 616 engine coolant issue. I dunno... there's gotta be a *nice* way to deal with stuff. We all eat food tonight, we all sleep in a bed tonight, we all make it fine and everyone's mortgage/rent is certainly more than $300 and most of you have means to bring another $300 in to your bank account in less than 60 days, or whatever - y'all are employed, me not so much. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
Anything is possible. Bypass the heater core by connecting the heater hoses together? Put some clear plastic hose on temporarily so you can see if there is flow? Randy On 17/06/2013 11:29 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: I would tend to agree. I did replace a heater hose so it would stand to reason that the heater system is empty but why can't I get the air out? I left it up on ramps for half a day, every time I start it the coolant comes splashing out. At first I just thought it was burping but it can't continue to be burping for the amount of time I've had it running, where would the air come from? If you can come up with a theory that involves a failed water pump somehow forcing air into the system which would burp out the coolant I'll continue troubleshooting... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:03:51 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think its the end Message-ID: 51bf2557.8090...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: #6. There is no cabin heat when running. Now that would seem to point to a circulatory problem. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Agreed. On Jun 17, 2013, at 4:42 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Is it time in this thread to post some of the banned info that circulated a couple months ago? Or did --R put that stuff up here also? In which case, similar situation only worse this time? i.e. real personal problems? So, do we nail him to the wall to extract $$ he doesn't have nor is able to produce? - or do we as the wealthy american consumer (because we are DIY) take the $300 loss and move on? Yes, it is sad to lose parts and $, but character assassination or degradation of a human being over replaceable $$ can be handled quite humanely - don't buy there again, wait to hear from him like you would like to be heard from if/when you are in a bine, be religious about things, i.e. forgive, be charitable, etc. Chase it if you want to be typical china cheap american, but otherwise be humane, don't buy there again. We are merely people, we all have problems, we all get in a fix from time to time, we all help each other out, otherwise, why read/respond at okiebenz helping $%@ Curt with his $#@# 616 engine coolant issue. I dunno... there's gotta be a *nice* way to deal with stuff. We all eat food tonight, we all sleep in a bed tonight, we all make it fine and everyone's mortgage/rent is certainly more than $300 and most of you have means to bring another $300 in to your bank account in less than 60 days, or whatever - y'all are employed, me not so much. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Agreed. On Jun 17, 2013, at 4:38 PM, WILTON wrote: Even, if not much money, a helluva lota principle. There is no substitute for integrity in any endeavor. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief Rich, Just out of curiosity and I am sorry if I missed it earlier, how much money are your out? Jon On Jun 17, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I left a message (the answering service apparently texts or emails him or something, it is not possible to reach him directly) that I was initiating legal action against him. THought it best to at least give him a warning. --R On 6/17/13 12:24 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: He stated he would provide an explanation here, which he has not. He has charged for items, apparently, that have not been provided. He has not provided an explanation to you - or to this group. I'm afraid at this time these actions are those of a thief. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
Randy wrote: Anything is possible. Bypass the heater core by connecting the heater hoses together? Put some clear plastic hose on temporarily so you can see if there is flow? I like that suggestion. I imagine it to be some circulation problem in the engine system, not in the ancillary systems of cabin heat, etc. I bet if all things are isolated from the engine, the cauldron will probably remain. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
On 17/06/2013 3:42 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Is it time in this thread to post some of the banned info that circulated a couple months ago? Or did --R put that stuff up here also? In which case, similar situation only worse this time? i.e. real personal problems? So, do we nail him to the wall to extract $$ he doesn't have nor is able to produce? - or do we as the wealthy american consumer (because we are DIY) take the $300 loss and move on? Yes, it is sad to lose parts and $, but character assassination or degradation of a human being over replaceable $$ can be handled quite humanely - don't buy there again, wait to hear from him like you would like to be heard from if/when you are in a bine, be religious about things, i.e. forgive, be charitable, etc. Chase it if you want to be typical china cheap american, but otherwise be humane, don't buy there again. We are merely people, we all have problems, we all get in a fix from time to time, we all help each other out, otherwise, why read/respond at okiebenz helping $%@ Curt with his $#@# 616 engine coolant issue. I dunno... there's gotta be a *nice* way to deal with stuff. We all eat food tonight, we all sleep in a bed tonight, we all make it fine and everyone's mortgage/rent is certainly more than $300 and most of you have means to bring another $300 in to your bank account in less than 60 days, or whatever - y'all are employed, me not so much. mao Still, a good thing to let the rest of us know what happened so we don't end up in the same situation. If he corrects the problem, that will hopefully be announced on the list as well. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I'm not employed. Y'all are still paying me, though, for what I well-earned many years ago, thank you. Our commitment of funds and questions demand at least some response, which has been sorely lacking. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief Is it time in this thread to post some of the banned info that circulated a couple months ago? Or did --R put that stuff up here also? In which case, similar situation only worse this time? i.e. real personal problems? So, do we nail him to the wall to extract $$ he doesn't have nor is able to produce? - or do we as the wealthy american consumer (because we are DIY) take the $300 loss and move on? Yes, it is sad to lose parts and $, but character assassination or degradation of a human being over replaceable $$ can be handled quite humanely - don't buy there again, wait to hear from him like you would like to be heard from if/when you are in a bine, be religious about things, i.e. forgive, be charitable, etc. Chase it if you want to be typical china cheap american, but otherwise be humane, don't buy there again. We are merely people, we all have problems, we all get in a fix from time to time, we all help each other out, otherwise, why read/respond at okiebenz helping $%@ Curt with his $#@# 616 engine coolant issue. I dunno... there's gotta be a *nice* way to deal with stuff. We all eat food tonight, we all sleep in a bed tonight, we all make it fine and everyone's mortgage/rent is certainly more than $300 and most of you have means to bring another $300 in to your bank account in less than 60 days, or whatever - y'all are employed, me not so much. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
'Zackly. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief On 17/06/2013 3:42 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Is it time in this thread to post some of the banned info that circulated a couple months ago? Or did --R put that stuff up here also? In which case, similar situation only worse this time? i.e. real personal problems? So, do we nail him to the wall to extract $$ he doesn't have nor is able to produce? - or do we as the wealthy american consumer (because we are DIY) take the $300 loss and move on? Yes, it is sad to lose parts and $, but character assassination or degradation of a human being over replaceable $$ can be handled quite humanely - don't buy there again, wait to hear from him like you would like to be heard from if/when you are in a bine, be religious about things, i.e. forgive, be charitable, etc. Chase it if you want to be typical china cheap american, but otherwise be humane, don't buy there again. We are merely people, we all have problems, we all get in a fix from time to time, we all help each other out, otherwise, why read/respond at okiebenz helping $%@ Curt with his $#@# 616 engine coolant issue. I dunno... there's gotta be a *nice* way to deal with stuff. We all eat food tonight, we all sleep in a bed tonight, we all make it fine and everyone's mortgage/rent is certainly more than $300 and most of you have means to bring another $300 in to your bank account in less than 60 days, or whatever - y'all are employed, me not so much. mao Still, a good thing to let the rest of us know what happened so we don't end up in the same situation. If he corrects the problem, that will hopefully be announced on the list as well. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
Have you tried one of those radiator pressure testers that screws on in place of the radiator cap? You can usually borrow them for free from FLAPS. When I had several old cars I found that tool so useful that I bought one. It's hard to tell what's happening with the engine hot and running. But with a still engine, you can pump it up and often see or hear leaks that are masked with the engine running. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of dsereta...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 6:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think its the end Since your headgasket was not obviously blown when we took it out, I wonder if your problem doesn't lie elsewhere? But where? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
He's just trolling, and caught a couple! --R On 6/17/13 3:47 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Wow Andrew. How do you turn a talk about traffic into politics? You simply accuse someone else of doing it appatently. Mike Who was simply passing on travel info On Jun 17, 2013 3:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: There they go again, turning every statement I make into a political circus. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Been like that every time I have gone that way over the last few years. Used to be a quick shot straight through on 95. Now the bypasses are just as bad and sometimes worse. Mike On Jun 17, 2013 10:21 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I drove up there Sat afternoon from Chapel Hill. The drive was nice until I got near Richmond, and I-95 was a parking lot for like 60 miles to DC, stop and go traffic, 3 lanes bumper to bumper. No clear reason for it other than just too much traffic for the road. Apparently it is always like that except when it is worse. Insanity. --R On 6/16/13 9:50 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: Andrew I'm surprised your mileage is not higher on diesel, but it's been years since i've had 100% dino diesel in the tank! Andrew lives in DC, where you spend almost as much time at zero mph as they do in Los Angeles. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Curt, Put a pressure tester from FLAPS loan a tool on it. Do not pump it up. Turn over engine. If guage goes up you have cylinder pressure in cooling system. That is where the air comes from. That is a great idea. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
On Jun 17, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Is it time in this thread to post some of the banned info that circulated a couple months ago? Or did --R put that stuff up here also? In which case, similar situation only worse this time? i.e. real personal problems? Already been done. I dunno... there's gotta be a *nice* way to deal with stuff. There has to be communication for that. y'all are employed, me not so much. Maybe if Rusty repo's the company name, you can buy it on consignment. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
On Jun 17, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Debit card, the order hit my bank acct almost immediately after placing the order. Never, never, never, never purchase anything online or over the phone with a debit card. NEVER. It is my understanding that you do not have the same level of consumer protection with a debit card that you do with a credit card. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think its the end
Get condom and stretch over the rad filler. If it inflates, when you crank it, there is air. Might want to close off the overflow too. Randy On 17/06/2013 4:31 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Curt, Put a pressure tester from FLAPS loan a tool on it. Do not pump it up. Turn over engine. If guage goes up you have cylinder pressure in cooling system. That is where the air comes from. That is a great idea. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vintage MB AD (OT-GMX Mail)
Are you saying an account as in usern...@gmail.com or your own personal domain? If you use Google Apps personal, they give up to 50 email addresses for your own domain. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (166,xxx mi) On 6/17/2013 3:33 PM, Chris James wrote: Pretty similar I guess, but I hardly log into either. Thunderbird is the default mail client I use for all my accounts. One feature of gmx mail is that you can have multiple addresses (5-10?) for the same account. Gmail only allows one I believe. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vintage MB AD (OT-GMX Mail)
Yes, that's what I was saying. On 6/17/2013 6:14 PM, Benz Hogs wrote: Are you saying an account as in usern...@gmail.com If you use Google Apps personal, they give up to 50 email addresses for your own domain. -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
