Re: [MBZ] '06 320CDI

2015-07-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
True.

Here's the deal:

When I got the car, the only thing that didn't work on it was the parking 
brake. You pulled on the release and it just slid right out of the dash. 
Pressing the pedal down applies the parking brake, but it doesn't latch.

I removed the release handle and found that the cable was disconnected. I 
reconnected it, only to now have a release handle that sticks out of the dash 
2-3, and still doesn't release the parking brake, which also continues not to 
latch.

On two occasions I've pulled the knee bolster out to get at the parking brake 
pedal, but it has a plastic cover that goes around it that has to be removed 
before you can get to anything substantive.  After laying on my back under the 
dash and hanging out of the door opening for 30 minutes, I'm done.

Without removing this cover you can't do a thing down there. Now I know why 
this was left unresolved. Even the PO's indie probably didn't want to deal with 
it.

Maybe when the weather cools off I'll take another shot at it.

I'm confused as to why it won't latch, or if it got jury-rigged not to since 
the release cable doesn't work

Dan

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 ‎Dan I'm not OCD, I'm particular Man writes:
 ‎
 I’m just living with it, as much as it pains me.
 
 Coming from a guy that changed out a thermistor under a front bumper to get a 
 temp display working, that says a lot. 
 ‎
 Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Yet another reason to buy Michelin tires

2015-07-27 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Hmm, I would have used a different subject line, Yet another reason NOT to but 
General tires...

I've been avoiding Michelin tires for fifteen years, haven't ever tried General 
tires, only one slipped belt.  Continental and Sumitomo have worked ok so far.
-- 
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Yet another reason to buy Michelin tires

2015-07-27 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Unfortunately I think tire quality can vary significantly between sizes, as 
well as manufacturer date, so (insert brand name here) tires with the same 
model name can perform at opposite ends of the quality spectrum, if they are 
different sizes, made on different days, made by different plants, etc.

User reviews should be highly discounted as biased to either extreme, in my 
opinion.

Another complication: makers stop offering a particular model before you can 
buy replacement tires, because the first set lasts so long!

In the end, I think buying tires is like rolling the dice.  I try to pay a low 
price, but each set needs to be judged on its merits.

I do agree that Michelin tires tend to have higher quality and last longer, but 
in my experience they become too slick and noisy long before the tread is worn 
out, and I value traction above all else, followed by noise.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 27, 2015 8:28:56 AM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


After 30k miles the Altimax HP on the Olds are doing fine. 
They don't stick like they did 7 years ago though. Back then
the car couldn't spin the front tires no matter what. Now it
happens any time I give it more than 1/2 throttle from a standing
start. 

Bought a used Taurus in 2001 with fairly new Continental touring 
tires on it. Over the nest few years and 30k miles, all four of
them came apart. 

When I bought tires for the 210 4Matic wagon, I wanted to get
Continental
DWS, which were some of the best 'all season' snow tires at Tire Rack.
There were enough belt failure reviews on the web that I ended up
buying
General G-Max instead. No problems to note so far, but I was surprised
at how easy it was to kick the tail out the first time I drove it
in the snow with the brand new 'all season' Generals on it. 



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Re: [MBZ] '06 320CDI

2015-07-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
True.

That could very well be the case, but without getting the whole assembly out or 
at least being able to access it, I can't tell.

The release cable is buried in the pedal assembly somehow, and even requires a 
special tool to remove and install it. There are two bolts that hold the whole 
thing in place, but without removing the plastic cover that surrounds the whole 
pedal assembly you can't get to the top bolt.

Dan

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 On Jul 27, 2015, at 8:21 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 On July 27, 2015 at 8:00 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 I removed the release handle and found that the cable was disconnected. I
 reconnected it, only to now have a release handle that sticks out of the dash
 2-3, and still doesn't release the parking brake, which also continues not
 to latch.

 
 
 It sounds to me like something is stuck, and it's ALWAYS releasing the parking
 brake. 
 Which is far better than never releasing it. 
 
 Mitch.
 
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[MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls

2015-07-27 Thread W140 via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Yet another reason to buy Michelin tires

2015-07-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Why have you been avoiding Michelins? On parts cars I have seen Michelins that 
have to be at least 20 years old that still hold air if that counts for 
anything. 

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 On Jul 27, 2015, at 7:15 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hmm, I would have used a different subject line, Yet another reason NOT to 
 but General tires...
 
 I've been avoiding Michelin tires for fifteen years, haven't ever tried 
 General tires, only one slipped belt.  Continental and Sumitomo have worked 
 ok so far.
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] '06 320CDI

2015-07-27 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Having spent time in both, I'd say the W211 is a much better car than the
W210 in terms of quality of materials and general feel.  I've logged a
large number of miles of W211s over the years and always enjoyed them.

Jaime


On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:15 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 My $0.02 is the E300  you already own.

 The newer Benz are crap.  I am ashamed to say that I was heading to my
 S430 in a parking lot and tried to get into a Kia sedan.  The look and
 everything just screams cheap korean car.  The W210 is junk, and the W211
 is not going to be less plastic and kruft than the W220.  I was getting
 36mpg highway in the W124.  I doubt the newer diesels get anywhere near
 that distance



 clay

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 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








 On Jul 26, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

  If I were looking for a used MB diesel sedan, that is the most recent
 year / model I would buy.  Terrifically low fuel consumption, powerful,
 quiet, reliable.
 
  I don't think they are quite as reliable as a 123, which is a relatively
 simple car, but for a modern car you can't do much better.
  --
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  '87 300TD
  '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] A Gullah Halloween Story and How to Cook Possum

2015-07-27 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Interesting, I will have to share that.  The slave trade got started 
here by bringing up Africans from Barbados (and I learned on a visit, 
Antigua) as the planters who had set up there found promise in the 
Lowcountry.  It likely traveled from there.


--R



On 7/26/15 2:51 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:

On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


I had supper with Sidi the other night and he shared another term used by
the Gullah folk.  He said when he was little (he is probably 75ish) growing
up among the Gullah folk the kids would call him a buckrah or something
like that.  Apparently this was the term used by the slaves for the
overseer/manager, who were generally Scots/Irish young men.  The chirruns
had picked up this word from their older family members.


Don't recall the etymology off the top of my head, but buckra is roughly
the Caribbean equivalent of Honkey...

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] '06 320CDI

2015-07-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On July 27, 2015 at 8:00 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 I removed the release handle and found that the cable was disconnected. I
 reconnected it, only to now have a release handle that sticks out of the dash
 2-3, and still doesn't release the parking brake, which also continues not
 to latch.


It sounds to me like something is stuck, and it's ALWAYS releasing the parking
brake. 
Which is far better than never releasing it. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] '06 320CDI

2015-07-27 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Send me the IP from that car.  Injectors also please.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 26, 2015 10:35:19 PM EDT, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:
I was able to hit 700 miles on a tank while traversing south dakota at
85mph.  Flat out driving at high speed I was seeing 36 at each fill up
while going coast to coast a few years back.  SEA to DUL and ORL to SEA

clay
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 26, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
 
 If I were looking for a used MB diesel sedan, that is the most
recent
 year / model I would buy.  Terrifically low fuel consumption,
powerful,
 quiet, reliable.
 
 I don't think they are quite as reliable as a 123, which is a
 relatively simple car, but for a modern car you can't do much
better.
 -- 
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 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Yet another reason to buy Michelin tires

2015-07-27 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

I have had good luck with Michelins, the Sams and Costco varieties

--R



On 7/27/15 8:15 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Hmm, I would have used a different subject line, Yet another reason NOT to but 
General tires...

I've been avoiding Michelin tires for fifteen years, haven't ever tried General 
tires, only one slipped belt.  Continental and Sumitomo have worked ok so far.



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Re: [MBZ] Yet another reason to buy Michelin tires

2015-07-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On July 27, 2015 at 8:15 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 
 Hmm, I would have used a different subject line, Yet another reason NOT to
 but General tires...
 
 I've been avoiding Michelin tires for fifteen years, haven't ever tried
 General tires, only one slipped belt.  Continental and Sumitomo have worked ok
 so far.

After 30k miles the Altimax HP on the Olds are doing fine. 
They don't stick like they did 7 years ago though. Back then
the car couldn't spin the front tires no matter what. Now it
happens any time I give it more than 1/2 throttle from a standing
start. 

Bought a used Taurus in 2001 with fairly new Continental touring 
tires on it. Over the nest few years and 30k miles, all four of
them came apart. 

When I bought tires for the 210 4Matic wagon, I wanted to get Continental
DWS, which were some of the best 'all season' snow tires at Tire Rack.
There were enough belt failure reviews on the web that I ended up buying
General G-Max instead. No problems to note so far, but I was surprised
at how easy it was to kick the tail out the first time I drove it
in the snow with the brand new 'all season' Generals on it. 

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Re: [MBZ] Yet another reason to buy Michelin tires

2015-07-27 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Unfortunately I think tire quality can vary significantly between 
sizes, as well as manufacturer date, so (insert brand name here) 
tires with the same model name can perform at opposite ends of the 
quality spectrum, if they are different sizes, made on different 
days, made by different plants, etc.


User reviews should be highly discounted as biased to either 
extreme, in my opinion.


Another complication: makers stop offering a particular model before 
you can buy replacement tires, because the first set lasts so long!


In the end, I think buying tires is like rolling the dice.  I try to 
pay a low price, but each set needs to be judged on its merits.


I do agree that Michelin tires tend to have higher quality and last 
longer, but in my experience they become too slick and noisy long 
before the tread is worn out, and I value traction above all else, 
followed by noise.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


Much of the tire quality is related to the tire builder in the plant. 
Most plants now have high turnover, so the tires don't last long, 
because of the low skill/artisan level of the tire builder.  I agree, 
it is a crapshoot, unless you can get Continentals built in Germany. 
I've never had a failure with those.  Tire builder is a physically 
demanding job.


I agree with Max, traction is the key.  you have only a few square 
inches of contact surface between the vehicle and the road.  You need 
traction in wet, muddy, schnee and ice conditions as well as very hot 
and very cold dry conditions.  Tires are the best insurance you can 
buy.  Mid range tires generally offer the best traction/value 
compromise.


Personally, I like blizzaks and a summer road  tire combination. 
Blizzak/general is an acceptable combo, though not optimal.


High mileage/long wearing tires generally have poor traction.  Back 
in the 70s when GM put long wearing uniroyals on their new cars, the 
junkyards were loaded with GM low mileage vehicles that slid into 
something, or slid off the road and rolled.  Crappy tars, but they 
lasted a lot of miles.s


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Re: [MBZ] Yet another reason to buy Michelin tires

2015-07-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Another thing to consider is if the tire is a big box store rebrand of a 
tire, like a Michelin or Goodrich.  I never had issues with bad belts in tires 
until I bought brand name tires from a big box retailer.

Dan

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 On Jul 27, 2015, at 8:59 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Unfortunately I think tire quality can vary significantly between sizes, as 
 well as manufacturer date, so (insert brand name here) tires with the same 
 model name can perform at opposite ends of the quality spectrum, if they are 
 different sizes, made on different days, made by different plants, etc.
 
 User reviews should be highly discounted as biased to either extreme, in my 
 opinion.
 
 Another complication: makers stop offering a particular model before you can 
 buy replacement tires, because the first set lasts so long!
 
 In the end, I think buying tires is like rolling the dice.  I try to pay a 
 low price, but each set needs to be judged on its merits.
 
 I do agree that Michelin tires tend to have higher quality and last longer, 
 but in my experience they become too slick and noisy long before the tread is 
 worn out, and I value traction above all else, followed by noise.
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
 
 On July 27, 2015 8:28:56 AM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 After 30k miles the Altimax HP on the Olds are doing fine. 
 They don't stick like they did 7 years ago though. Back then
 the car couldn't spin the front tires no matter what. Now it
 happens any time I give it more than 1/2 throttle from a standing
 start. 
 
 Bought a used Taurus in 2001 with fairly new Continental touring 
 tires on it. Over the nest few years and 30k miles, all four of
 them came apart. 
 
 When I bought tires for the 210 4Matic wagon, I wanted to get
 Continental
 DWS, which were some of the best 'all season' snow tires at Tire Rack.
 There were enough belt failure reviews on the web that I ended up
 buying
 General G-Max instead. No problems to note so far, but I was surprised
 at how easy it was to kick the tail out the first time I drove it
 in the snow with the brand new 'all season' Generals on it.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls

2015-07-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On July 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 What amazes me is that there are at least half a dozen different
 indivisuals who recently had my phone number.  How long does Verizon wait
 before reassigning recently abandoned listings?

I'm not sure what constitutes 'recent' any more, but I still get more calls for
the previous owners of
a number I've had for over two years than I get for myself (well, these days I
pretty much get zero calls
for me on that line because I've mostly abandoned it). Most of the calls are
from bill collectors on presumably
old debt, and one guy keeps persistently calling to sell them something for
their home business, but I also get
automated calls whenever they schedule a Dish Network field tech visit to their
house or they fail to pay their Dish bill,
so either they're still giving out the number or they haven't changed it with
Dish. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls

2015-07-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On July 27, 2015 at 3:52 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 
 So you won't feel at all upset when you don't check the voicemail for a couple
 hours and then find out mamma was in a car accident?

If I ignore a call from an unknown number, and a new VM pops up a minute or two
later, I listen to my messages then.

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls

2015-07-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Dunno, haven't looked into it that closely. I believe it's tied back to the 
national Do Not Call registry as well as the vendor's own list of accumulated 
robocaller numbers.

I just know it's far from foolproof despite it being presented as such. I think 
our VOIP guys tested it for fun earlier this year and found it to be meh.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 27, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 So how do you get calls from people you've never talked to before? What if 
 your wife calls from somewhere else because her cell phone has died?
 -Curt
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 2:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls
 
 I don't think this was spam, necessarily, as it was someone's email account 
 that got hijacked and was used to send out the spam. Pretty coo on on Yahoo 
 and some of the other bulk mail providers.
 
 The nomorobo thing is legit, although it's not perfect. If your caller's 
 service provider doesn't send the number in the proper ANI (10 digit) format, 
 it won't respond and the call gets a busy or intercept signal.
 
 I just don't answer calls on my land line or mobile that I don't recognize. 
 It's that simple.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jul 27, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 W140 wrote:
 
 Free service blocks pesky robocalls*
 
 Spam - on how to stop spam.
 
 Ironic
 
 The spammers are masterful at sending spam on how to stop spam. Similarly I 
 suspect a lot of viruses are spread by the antivirus companies.  One reason 
 I never fully trusted kaspersky.  Russian virus propagators selling 
 anti-virus, or legitimate Ruskies? Oxymoron?
 
 anti-virus people blackmailing gullible users  THe list goes on.
 
 How about stockbrokers turned financial advisors scamming people out of 
 millions?
 
 How about IRS taking money at gunpoint and using the power/money to favor 
 certain parties/candidates?
 
 Its all the same.  Theft/extortion/blackmail.  It used to be limited to the 
 gangsters.  Now the politicians are fully involved too; as are seeming 
 legitimate businesses.  Microsoft forcing you to upgrade and buy new 
 hardware?  Or forcing you to rent software forever?  That used to be 
 extortion or blackmail.  Now it is normalThe goobers and coppers that 
 are supposed to intervene and stop the extortion are busy trying to figure 
 out how to extort more money with traffic cameras and other unconstitutional 
 means.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls

2015-07-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I love roboclals left on my answering machine.  They are so easy to delete.

On an unrelated topic, since moving to the new home I have been barraged
with voicemails (usually in Spanish, but not always) for a variety of
people.  For example, a soccer Dad leaving detailed instructions to another
soccer Dad on carpooling their little darlings.  Also, several for an
anesthesiologist, the last one which made an offer to hire him as a
consultant for $45,000/month (!).  I was tempted to inhabit the guy's
character and obtain a one month advance (cash preferred)..

What amazes me is that there are at least half a dozen different
indivisuals who recently had my phone number.  How long does Verizon wait
before reassigning recently abandoned listings?

Andrew


On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 So how do you get calls from people you've never talked to before? What if
 your wife calls from somewhere else because her cell phone has died?
 -Curt
   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
  Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 2:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls

 I don't think this was spam, necessarily, as it was someone's email
 account that got hijacked and was used to send out the spam. Pretty coo on
 on Yahoo and some of the other bulk mail providers.

 The nomorobo thing is legit, although it's not perfect. If your caller's
 service provider doesn't send the number in the proper ANI (10 digit)
 format, it won't respond and the call gets a busy or intercept signal.

 I just don't answer calls on my land line or mobile that I don't
 recognize. It's that simple.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 27, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

   W140 wrote:
 
  Free service blocks pesky robocalls*
 
  Spam - on how to stop spam.
 
  Ironic
 
  The spammers are masterful at sending spam on how to stop spam.
 Similarly I suspect a lot of viruses are spread by the antivirus
 companies.  One reason I never fully trusted kaspersky.  Russian virus
 propagators selling anti-virus, or legitimate Ruskies? Oxymoron?
 
  anti-virus people blackmailing gullible users  THe list goes on.
 
  How about stockbrokers turned financial advisors scamming people out
 of millions?
 
  How about IRS taking money at gunpoint and using the power/money to
 favor certain parties/candidates?
 
  Its all the same.  Theft/extortion/blackmail.  It used to be limited to
 the gangsters.  Now the politicians are fully involved too; as are seeming
 legitimate businesses.  Microsoft forcing you to upgrade and buy new
 hardware?  Or forcing you to rent software forever?  That used to be
 extortion or blackmail.  Now it is normalThe goobers and coppers that
 are supposed to intervene and stop the extortion are busy trying to figure
 out how to extort more money with traffic cameras and other
 unconstitutional means.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Avoirdupois

2015-07-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I am flattered at how closely you parse my every word.  You must await each
of my postings with baited [sic] breath

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Andrew sez:   avpoiding

 Is that the process of weighing in Avoirdupois?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls

2015-07-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
If it's important, they'll leave a voice mail and you can call them back. 
If it's not important enough for them to leave a message, you didn't miss out on
much. 

Mitch. 

 On July 27, 2015 at 3:16 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 
 So how do you get calls from people you've never talked to before? What if
 your wife calls from somewhere else because her cell phone has died?
 -Curt
   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 I just don't answer calls on my land line or mobile that I don't recognize.
 It's that simple.
 
 Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil - was: '06 320CDI

2015-07-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On July 27, 2015 at 2:42 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 
 Is your chain rusty?  You could try the electrolysis method to get it 
 clean and shiny again

I forget, does washing soda and electricity cause hydrogen embrittlement?
Seems like I remember somebody telling me I ruined a rusty Estwing by
electrolysis. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls

2015-07-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
So you won't feel at all upset when you don't check the voicemail for a couple 
hours and then find out mamma was in a car accident?
Are you okay with people dumping your calls to voicemail? Who leaves voicemail 
anymore?
Actually Angie and I got into an argument about that last one, I call, she 
doesn't answer, I hang up. She should know I called. She never calls back but 
gets upset because I didn't leave a voicemail. YOU KNEW I CALLED! All I'd have 
left on the voicemail was Hi, its me, call me back.Apparently young people 
are leading the charge to abandon voicemail...

-Curt

  From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com 
 Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 3:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls
   
If it's important, they'll leave a voice mail and you can call them back. 
If it's not important enough for them to leave a message, you didn't miss out on
much. 

Mitch. 

 On July 27, 2015 at 3:16 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 
 So how do you get calls from people you've never talked to before? What if
 your wife calls from somewhere else because her cell phone has died?
 -Curt
      From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 I just don't answer calls on my land line or mobile that I don't recognize.
 It's that simple.
 
 Dan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls

2015-07-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Becuase they have a near-monopoly (oligopoly?).

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 So I have been on a chat with ATT for the last 1:20 trying to get them to
 enable me to link my dad's acct to my acct, I set his up like 15 yr ago and
 forgot the login.  2 different guys, the recent one wants to know the
 state, I say KY and he asks what that is.  Now I am getting transferred to
 another person:
 Aaren G: Your inquiry requires contact with a specialist who handles
 accounts in your area. Allow me a moment to connect you to a representative
 who will be able to assist you.

 How do these people stay in business?

 --R


 On 7/27/15 4:00 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:


  On July 27, 2015 at 3:52 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:


 So you won't feel at all upset when you don't check the voicemail for a
 couple
 hours and then find out mamma was in a car accident?

 If I ignore a call from an unknown number, and a new VM pops up a minute
 or two
 later, I listen to my messages then.

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls

2015-07-27 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
So I have been on a chat with ATT for the last 1:20 trying to get them 
to enable me to link my dad's acct to my acct, I set his up like 15 yr 
ago and forgot the login.  2 different guys, the recent one wants to 
know the state, I say KY and he asks what that is.  Now I am getting 
transferred to another person:
Aaren G: Your inquiry requires contact with a specialist who handles 
accounts in your area. Allow me a moment to connect you to a 
representative who will be able to assist you.


How do these people stay in business?

--R


On 7/27/15 4:00 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:



On July 27, 2015 at 3:52 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


So you won't feel at all upset when you don't check the voicemail for a couple
hours and then find out mamma was in a car accident?

If I ignore a call from an unknown number, and a new VM pops up a minute or two
later, I listen to my messages then.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] '06 320CDI

2015-07-27 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
I've heard that before on this list, but I use it on locks and everything else 
since it first came on the market and have no problems. WD-40 contains a very 
light oil and probably leaves a little residue, but how many of the millions of 
people who use WD-40 have problems with that residue? If a mechanical part has 
a very tight fit I can see how someone could have a problem with WD-40 
residue. WD-40 started out as a water dispersant for missile nose cones but 
quickly became the very popular solvent/lubricant it is today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40

Modern industrial society may not be possible without WD-40 which seems to have 
an infinite number of uses. Here are only a few of them:

Attract fish. When sprayed on fishing bait, WD-40 covers up the scent of 
human hands on the bait to better lure fish, according to USA Today. The WD-40 
Company receives hundreds of letters from consumers confirming this use, but 
prefers not to promote WD-40 as a fishing lure since the petroleum-based 
product could potentially pollute rivers and streams, damaging the ecosystem.

Cure Mange. While spraying a dog with WD-40 gets rid of parasitic mites, 
according to USA Today, the WD-40 Company, feeling that the potential misuse of 
the product is too great, refuses to condone using WD-40 to cure mange on 
animals.

Prevent squirrels from climbing into a birdhouse. Spray WD-40 on the metal 
pole or wires.

Remove a ring stuck on a finger. Several medical journals claim that WD-40 
is the perfect cure for a toe stuck in the bathtub faucet, a finger stuck in 
soda bottle, or a ring stuck on a finger.

Remove chewing gum, crayon, tar, and Silly Putty from most surfaces. Spray 
on WD-40, wait, and wipe.

Zipper won't zip? WD-40 will let it zip again.

Clean decorative snow from windows. Spray windows with WD-40 before 
spraying with artificial snow so the decorative spray will wipe off easier.

Prevent dead insects from sticking to your car. Spray WD-40 on the hood and 
grill so you can wipe bugs off easily without damaging the finish.

Make hangers glide over a clothes rod. Spray WD-40 on the clothes rod so 
hangers can be pushed back and forth easily.

Clean clogged spray paint can nozzles. Remove the nozzles from the spray 
paint can and the WD-40 can, place the nozzle from the spray paint can on the 
WD-40 can, give it a couple of quick squirts, and replace both nozzles.

Remove oil spots from driveways. Spray with WD-40, wait, then blot. The 
mineral spirits and other petroleum distillates in WD 40 work as a curing agent.

Thread electrical wire through conduits. Spray WD-40 on the electrical wire 
to help it glide through winding conduits.

Prevent grass clippings from clogging up a lawn mower. Spray WD-40 on the 
underside of lawn mower housing and blade before cutting the grass.

Clean sap from gardening equipment. Spray with WD-40, wait, and wipe clean.

Prevent mud and clay build-up on bicycles. Spray the bicycle with a thin 
coat of WD-40.

Remove baked-on food from a cookie pan. Spray WD-40 on cookie pan and wipe 
clean. Then wash with soap and water.

Remove dirt and grime from barbecue grills. Remove the grill from the 
barbecue, spray with WD-40, wait, and wipe clean. Then wash with soap and water.

Remove chewing gum from the bottom of a shoe or sneaker. Spray on WD-40, 
wait, and pull the gum free.

Keep dogs, maggots, and flies out of trash cans. Coat the trash cans with a 
thin layer of WD-40.

Take squeaks out of new shoes. Spray WD-40 into the leather and shine.

Remove grease stains from linen. Spray WD-40 directly to the stain, rub it 
in, let is soak for a few minutes, then wash through a regular cycle.

Take squeaks out of a box spring mattress. Remove the fabric covering the 
bottom of the box spring mattress (by simply removing the staples), and spray 
the springs with WD-40. Staple the fabric covering back in place with a staple 
gun.

 Clean crayon from a blackboard. Spray WD-40 on the crayon marks, let soak 
for 10 minutes, then blot clean with a cloth.

Free a tongue stuck to frozen metal in winter. Spray WD-40 on the metal 
around the tongue.

-   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   
Gerry

-

 WD40 is not the stuff to use.  It is a Water Displacer and dries to 
 gunk that is worse than the previously stuck condition.  PB might be a 
 bit better, or the acetone/transgendered fluid mixture.
 --R
 
Dan wrote:
  I removed the release handle and found that the cable was disconnected. I 
  reconnected it, only to now have a release handle that sticks out of the 
  dash 2-3, and still doesn't release the parking brake, which also 
  continues not to latch.

  It sounds to me like something is stuck, and it's ALWAYS releasing the 
  parking brake.  Which is far better than never releasing it.
  Mitch.
  

Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls

2015-07-27 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
So I have been on a chat with ATT for the last 1:20 trying to get 
them to enable me to link my dad's acct to my acct, I set his up 
like 15 yr ago and forgot the login.  2 different guys, the recent 
one wants to know the state, I say KY and he asks what that is.  Now 
I am getting transferred to another person:
Aaren G: Your inquiry requires contact with a specialist who handles 
accounts in your area. Allow me a moment to connect you to a 
representative who will be able to assist you.


How do these people stay in business?

--R


Its like trying to find intelligent life forms at Banco de mehico  (B 
of A) or wells cargo.   Ain't happenin...


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Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls

2015-07-27 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
So I finally got into the acct once they told me the login name, which I 
had forgotten.  Looking at the bill I see 2 companies charging a total 
of $26/month, one of them a domestic LD provider that seems to charge 
5cents/min but then $14/mo for the privilege, and another is an 
INTERNATIONAL long distance provider that charges like $12/mo for 
something unclear, there have never been any intl LD calls from the 
line.  I got Stella the 3rd CS rep, to delete the past month's charges 
but I have to call the ripoff companies to try to get reimbursement for 
the past.


--R

On 7/27/15 6:12 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

The prevailing business practice seems to be;
  If you throw enough crap against a wall, some of it will stick.

Don't forget. always demand to be given the direct contact details for the
senior chairman of the board.

Customers can either be satisfied with quality service.. or they can take
satisfaction via any means which satisfies them.. the customer.

You get to choose..

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


So I have been on a chat with ATT for the last 1:20 trying to get them to

enable me to link my dad's acct to my acct, I set his up like 15 yr ago and
forgot the login.  2 different guys, the recent one wants to know the
state, I say KY and he asks what that is.  Now I am getting transferred to
another person:
Aaren G: Your inquiry requires contact with a specialist who handles
accounts in your area. Allow me a moment to connect you to a representative
who will be able to assist you.

How do these people stay in business?

--R


Its like trying to find intelligent life forms at Banco de mehico  (B of
A) or wells cargo.   Ain't happenin...

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Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil - was: '06 320CDI

2015-07-27 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:05:57 -0500
fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Dan wrote:

I removed the release handle and found that the cable
was disconnected. I reconnected it, only to now have a
release handle that sticks out of the dash 2-3, and
still doesn't release the parking brake, which also
continues not to latch.
 
   Mitch wrote:
   
   It sounds to me like something is stuck, and it's ALWAYS
   releasing the parking brake. 
 
 Kinda what I was thinking
 
  archer75--- wrote:
  
  Nothing has been said about solvents such as Blaster or
  WD-40. I squirt everything remotely connected to a system
  with WD-40 first since  the smell goes away faster.
 
 Too bad it doesn't work very well.
 
  If that doesn't work, I use stinking PB Blaster and repeat
  the process. 

Been doing that ever since ...Eveready (circa 1940s-50s) was the favorite 
solvent which was far better than any of the stuff available nowadays. 
 
 Have you tried Kroil/Arokroil?  Or automatic transmission
 fluid and acetone?

G: Tried both. I have a collection of nearly every similar solvent.
 
 I acquired a monster chain-type come-a-long and am currently
 soaking the chain in a (covered) bucket of ATF and acetone.
 We'll see...  It took most of a gallon of used ATF to cover
 the chain.  I put a bit less than 2 cups of acetone.  Maybe
 not enough - but I'm cheap!

G: That will be interesting. 
If that doesn't work, you might try Rust-eater (or some similar name) at 
Autozone. You can see the dissolved rust coming out of the joints. 

Gerry 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls

2015-07-27 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
The prevailing business practice seems to be;
 If you throw enough crap against a wall, some of it will stick.

Don't forget. always demand to be given the direct contact details for the
senior chairman of the board.

Customers can either be satisfied with quality service.. or they can take
satisfaction via any means which satisfies them.. the customer.

You get to choose..

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 So I have been on a chat with ATT for the last 1:20 trying to get them to
 enable me to link my dad's acct to my acct, I set his up like 15 yr ago and
 forgot the login.  2 different guys, the recent one wants to know the
 state, I say KY and he asks what that is.  Now I am getting transferred to
 another person:
 Aaren G: Your inquiry requires contact with a specialist who handles
 accounts in your area. Allow me a moment to connect you to a representative
 who will be able to assist you.

 How do these people stay in business?

 --R


 Its like trying to find intelligent life forms at Banco de mehico  (B of
 A) or wells cargo.   Ain't happenin...

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Re: [MBZ] '06 320CDI

2015-07-27 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Prevent Rob-o-sales calls, spray WD-40 on your handset...

;)
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 27, 2015 6:02:35 PM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 snip 

Modern industrial society may not be possible without WD-40 which seems
to have an infinite number of uses. Here are only a few of them:



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Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

2015-07-27 Thread MG via Mercedes
If you can get the chain out of the come-along the best way to 
clean it of rust is to put it into a small electric cement mixer 
along with a couple of shovels of sand. Worked for me a couple of 
times now. Soaking it in oil doesn't really get any rust off.


Manfred


--
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:05:57 -0500
From: fmiser fmi...@gmail.com



I acquired a monster chain-type come-a-long and am currently
soaking the chain in a (covered) bucket of ATF and acetone.
We'll see...  It took most of a gallon of used ATF to cover
the chain.  I put a bit less than 2 cups of acetone.  Maybe
not enough - but I'm cheap!



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[MBZ] Radiator Hose pinch-off pliers

2015-07-27 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Hazard Fraught has them, I must get a set based on this review:

I am a havy duty diesel tech and use these hose pliers to pinch off
coolent lines and they work so good going to invest in to more pair thanks
Harbor Freight for qualety tools at lowe prices.

http://www.harborfreight.com/radiator-hose-pinch-off-pliers-99704.html
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls

2015-07-27 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
That's nuthin, try clawing back over $1200 in international long distance.
I was cold-called by an ATT sales weasel and foolishly agreed to an
international plan, but instead of getting the 5¢ per minute plan he talked
about, I end up with a plan that charged roughly $1 per minute. Didn't pay
attention to November and December's bills, which were debited directly
from my checking, January rolls around and I finally take a look at the
finances and H!#!?

I immediately called ATT and thanks to God the lady was American. She was
able to fix the January bill, but I would have to deal with managers about
December and November.

My next call was to my bank, once again I was blessed to speak to a native,
this lady educated me on the exact phrasing of the spoken and written words
to communicate to ATT to cancel the debit.  That was key.  Bank then
reversed the December debit for me, once they had a copy of my
communication with ATT as well as statement from me that I did not agree
to the terms of the international plan that they charged.  ATT would have
to send me a paper bill, and I would thenceforth pay by my choice of means.

ATT kept sending me bills for December, I only paid the current balance,
and once per week or more I'd call to speak with a manager about it, and
dutifully recorded their name and date and what they said they would do.
After a couple months  I finally got rather upset at a manager with whom
I'd spoken several times who promised to refer the matter to suchsuch
department but nothing ever came of it.  The next month I get a notice
from their collections department.  I immediately called the collections
number, dumped the whole story all over the collections lady, let her know
the names and dates and promises from all the managers, and pointed out
that I've been a loyal ATT customer for over 14 years and that they had
made a huge profit on my account during that time.  I said I was a very
satisfied customer up until this issue, and intended to keep ATT, but if
this matter was not resolved then I would have to find another service
provider.  She puts me on hold for about ten minutes and when she returns,
December debt is erased, November is corrected as well, and the next month
I had a credit of about $200.

I've still got ATT, but I look VERY CLOSELY at those bills now.

-Max


On July 27, 2015 6:27:18 PM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 So I finally got into the acct once they told me the login name, which I
 had forgotten.  Looking at the bill I see 2 companies charging a total
 of $26/month, one of them a domestic LD provider that seems to charge
 5cents/min but then $14/mo for the privilege, and another is an
 INTERNATIONAL long distance provider that charges like $12/mo for
 something unclear, there have never been any intl LD calls from the
 line.  I got Stella the 3rd CS rep, to delete the past month's charges
 but I have to call the ripoff companies to try to get reimbursement for
 the past.

 --R



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Re: [MBZ] Radiator Hose pinch-off pliers

2015-07-27 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Hazard Fraught has them, I must get a set based on this review:

I am a havy duty diesel tech and use these hose pliers to pinch off
coolent lines and they work so good going to invest in to more pair thanks
Harbor Freight for qualety tools at lowe prices.

http://www.harborfreight.com/radiator-hose-pinch-off-pliers-99704.html
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Max
Charleston SC
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HF prices are often good, but lowe prices, not so much.

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[MBZ] Robo calls

2015-07-27 Thread W140 via Mercedes
* I sent this to the group, I just missed signing it, sorry.Yes, I am using 
it and it works fine, I have had no problems from legit 800 numbers, etc. If 
your concerned, Google it, research it and if you want it, use it.I'm just 
verifying that it's not a scam and I have been using it, with success,for a 
couple months now.  Walt LasherSeattle1992S350  

Buffett’s Warning for YOU
4 in 5 Americans aren’t taking his shocking advice. Click here now.
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[MBZ] Airplane pr0n

2015-07-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
http://www.wsj.com/video/dramatic-video-shows-plane-landing-during-violent-storm/E6DFA194-7AD3-45D3-8137-CEB0E01B1142.html

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Re: [MBZ] '06 320CDI

2015-07-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I can identify with this.  While I like my S430, it’s completely soulless 
compared to earlier models.  Other than the hood star there is nothing, and I 
mean nothing, that makes it stand out among other cars.

As for crap I can’t say, as I haven’t had any issues with mine so far (knock on 
Zebrano or whatever it is they have in them now.)  Mine was pretty well gone 
over by the previous owner and any issues addressed, so it’s in good working 
order with the exception of the parking brake, who’s release cable is screwed 
up somehow.  I’ve been under the drive’s side dash twice to investigate, but 
for the life of me I can’t get close to the darned thing, there’s so much crap 
in the way.  I’m just living with it, as much as it pains me.

The car does run well and gets god gas mileage considering the size and weight. 
 I pretty much get 20+ MPG a tank with about 50-50 mixed city/highway driving. 
It’s comfortable and has all the appurtenances you would expect in an S-class.  
It’s just not unique in any sense of the word.  It might as well be a Ford 
Taurus in some respects.

Dan


 On Jul 26, 2015, at 10:15 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 My $0.02 is the E300  you already own.
 
 The newer Benz are crap.  I am ashamed to say that I was heading to my S430 
 in a parking lot and tried to get into a Kia sedan.  The look and everything 
 just screams cheap korean car.  The W210 is junk, and the W211 is not going 
 to be less plastic and kruft than the W220.  I was getting 36mpg highway in 
 the W124.  I doubt the newer diesels get anywhere near that distance
 
 
 
 clay 
 
 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 26, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
 
 If I were looking for a used MB diesel sedan, that is the most recent year / 
 model I would buy.  Terrifically low fuel consumption, powerful, quiet, 
 reliable.
 
 I don't think they are quite as reliable as a 123, which is a relatively 
 simple car, but for a modern car you can't do much better.
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] '06 320CDI

2015-07-27 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Dan I'm not OCD, I'm particular Man writes:
‎
I’m just living with it, as much as it pains me.

Coming from a guy that changed out a thermistor under a front bumper to get a 
temp display working, that says a lot. 
‎
Rick 
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