Re: [MBZ] Sickbay Report

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

+1.  Remember, we're all pulling for you!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 28, 2016 10:42:58 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Glad you are still with us!THe problems suck, but the alternative
>is 
>worse.
>


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Re: [MBZ] Sickbay Report

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Glad you are still with us!THe problems suck, but the alternative is 
worse.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
July 28, 2016 at 7:36 PM
They let you drive or you ignored that part? When I had stents they 
wouldn't let me drive for a week. I worked the following week.

-Curt

From: M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
To:
Cc: M. Mitchell Marmel 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:46 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Sickbay Report

Went to the ER last Sunday with nausea and numbness in my left arm and 
leg.

After a mini-stroke was ruled out, a stress test on Monday showed a couple
of blockages in the ticker. Angioplasty and stents on Tuesday and
Wednesday, released on Thursday.

Recovered enough to drive around and run errands on Friday and Saturday.
Will be home for a week recuperating.

Five days in a hospital bed have left my back aching, so I'm resting 
up and

doing stretching exercises.

Brother, can you spare a Tylenol?

-MMM-
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M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
July 24, 2016 at 10:46 AM
Went to the ER last Sunday with nausea and numbness in my left arm and 
leg.

After a mini-stroke was ruled out, a stress test on Monday showed a couple
of blockages in the ticker. Angioplasty and stents on Tuesday and
Wednesday, released on Thursday.

Recovered enough to drive around and run errands on Friday and Saturday.
Will be home for a week recuperating.

Five days in a hospital bed have left my back aching, so I'm resting 
up and

doing stretching exercises.

Brother, can you spare a Tylenol?

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Finally had to have My Mercedes Towed

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 22:44:56 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I did not get Robert's email, so I cannot see the picture.
> 
> Would someone send me a copy, please?

I have gotten a copy of the picture.

I now understand why Kaleb said, "Wow!"


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ T-shirt

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So did yours!  You both must be on Trump/Putin's payroll.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Check with the Russians
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 7/28/16 4:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> For some reason Curt's msgs. are now going straight into my spam folder.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've got a laundry marker, it can say anything you want...
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>>From: Andrew Strasfogel 
>>>   To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>   Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:56 PM
>>>   Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ T-shirt
>>>
>>> Do you have one with "Stras" on the back?
>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey I keep forgetting to mention it. We've got a couple shirts left over
>>> from ChowdaQ 2015, I think they're all XL but I can check. I'll let them
>>> go
>>> for $20 shipped anywhere in the US or Canada.
>>> Actually while I'm thinking about it I've got a couple of Lantern Lab
>>> shirts left too, same deal.
>>>
>>> I can't find my ChowdaQ'15 pics and I'm on the road right now so no pics
>>> until I get back, heres the Lantern Lab shirt:
>>>
>>> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/porch_edit_sm_zpswtgzod1l.jpg
>>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Appears to be a really nice 500

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Very unusual color combination and probably not recommended by the factory
advisors.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> "Engine was running when parked."
>
> My engine is usually running when I park.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 7/28/16 8:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> "
>>
>> 1985 Mercedes 500 SEL
>> http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/5705398725.html
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Putting a Lambo to good use - towing goats and bales of hay and water buffaloes

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Natural breeding??? How quaint.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Uh, they are an essential element to making more buffaloes, and milk from
> the cows
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 7/28/16 4:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> What are the male buffaloes good for then?  They can't be milked, unless
>> what they yield is like a naturally occurring cial*s.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>
>> Hah!  de gullah peeples doan wanna doon dat
>>
>> But there is a goat cheese maker right over close to where he is,
>> they have a little farm with goats, but they didn't want to fool
>> with the buffacows.  Apparently milking the buffacows takes a bit
>> of know-how as they are not entirely cooperative.  Otherwise
>> fairly docile but don't like to be fooled with like that.
>>
>>
>> On 7/28/16 3:51 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>> Get some gullah folk to help round em up and Milk em daily for
>> a cut
>>
>> Max Dillon via Mercedes > >
>> July 28, 2016 at 2:40 PM
>> He should import some Italian expertise and start making
>> fresh mozzarella di buffola, good fresh stuff is nearly
>> impossible to find here, and terribly expensive.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Seiko 5 SNK809 one week update

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 11:38:57 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Scott wrote:
> > GPS is the most accurate time source available...
> 
> Is there calculation in the display time on whatever device for time
> consumed in getting signal to receiver?  Sure, it is insignificant to
> average Joe, but I would guess that there is a calculation from
> geo-synchronous orbit to ground and tcp/ip to device - whatever.  I
> would suspect that there might be a standard fraction of a second in
> the calculator?

When your GPS receiver calculates where you are, it calculates in three
dimensions by measuring the time delays from three or more satellites. To
do that, it has to know the exact time where you are.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Appears to be a really nice 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

"Engine was running when parked."

My engine is usually running when I park.

--FT


On 7/28/16 8:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

"

1985 Mercedes 500 SEL
http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/5705398725.html

via cPro for Craigslist
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice
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Re: [MBZ] Sickbay Report

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That sucks. My dad had to have that done a couple of months ago.

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> On Jul 24, 2016, at 10:46 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Went to the ER last Sunday with nausea and numbness in my left arm and leg.
> After a mini-stroke was ruled out, a stress test on Monday showed a couple
> of blockages in the ticker. Angioplasty and stents on Tuesday and
> Wednesday, released on Thursday.
> 
> Recovered enough to drive around and run errands on Friday and Saturday.
> Will be home for a week recuperating.
> 
> Five days in a hospital bed have left my back aching, so I'm resting up and
> doing stretching exercises.
> 
> Brother, can you spare a Tylenol?
> 
> -MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Sickbay Report

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You should have CHANGED YOUR FUSES and CHANGED YOUR FILTERS.

What kind of oil do you use?

--FT


On 7/24/16 11:46 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:

Went to the ER last Sunday with nausea and numbness in my left arm and leg.
After a mini-stroke was ruled out, a stress test on Monday showed a couple
of blockages in the ticker. Angioplasty and stents on Tuesday and
Wednesday, released on Thursday.

Recovered enough to drive around and run errands on Friday and Saturday.
Will be home for a week recuperating.

Five days in a hospital bed have left my back aching, so I'm resting up and
doing stretching exercises.

Brother, can you spare a Tylenol?

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Appears to be a really nice 500

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Looks at least $500 better than this one.http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/5693982450.htmlOn July 28, 2016 at 8:30 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"  wrote:1985 Mercedes 500 SELhttp://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/5705398725.html
 

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Re: [MBZ] Sickbay Report

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Aren't stents a wonderful thing?

Me, I'm lucky -- ended up in the hospital last year on Easter Sunday  
with severe congestive heart failure (EF 10-15%, for those of you who  
know what that is).  Long, slow recovery, but was released by the  
cardiologist back to my primary care doctor this week as I'm pretty  
much back to normal.


He thinks it was a viral infection that attacked the heart -- he's  
seen cases where people go from feeling bad to almost dead (worse than  
me) to complete recovery in a couple weeks.


Anyway, I had a wonderful cardiac cath (most of which I slept through)  
and have perfectly clean arteries, no plaque at all.  I must have  
inherited the appropriate genes from my mother's side, as my father  
was dead at 51 from severe coronary artery disease, myocardial  
disease, and a heart attack.  I appear to have minimal to no risk of a  
heart attack, although I'm staying on the beta blocker due to high BP.


Glad you are feeling better.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Sickbay Report

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

They let you drive or you ignored that part? When I had stents they wouldn't 
let me drive for a week. I worked the following week.
-Curt

  From: M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
 To: 
Cc: M. Mitchell Marmel 
 Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:46 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] Sickbay Report
   
Went to the ER last Sunday with nausea and numbness in my left arm and leg.
After a mini-stroke was ruled out, a stress test on Monday showed a couple
of blockages in the ticker. Angioplasty and stents on Tuesday and
Wednesday, released on Thursday.

Recovered enough to drive around and run errands on Friday and Saturday.
Will be home for a week recuperating.

Five days in a hospital bed have left my back aching, so I'm resting up and
doing stretching exercises.

Brother, can you spare a Tylenol?

-MMM-
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[MBZ] Appears to be a really nice 500

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1985 Mercedes 500 SEL
http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/5705398725.html

via cPro for Craigslist
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice
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[MBZ] Sickbay Report

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Went to the ER last Sunday with nausea and numbness in my left arm and leg.
After a mini-stroke was ruled out, a stress test on Monday showed a couple
of blockages in the ticker. Angioplasty and stents on Tuesday and
Wednesday, released on Thursday.

Recovered enough to drive around and run errands on Friday and Saturday.
Will be home for a week recuperating.

Five days in a hospital bed have left my back aching, so I'm resting up and
doing stretching exercises.

Brother, can you spare a Tylenol?

-MMM-
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[MBZ] R1234

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I did not realize but there are already new cars that have been using this new 
r1234 refrigerant. I had heard it was being considered to replace r134 but I 
did not realize it was already being used. I suppose this means they will start 
making r134 hard to get one of these days.

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Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

3300 Joules...http://www.homedepot.com/p/Square-D-Home-Electronics-Protective-Device-HEPD-HEPD80/203540660
 

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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ T-shirt

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Check with the Russians

--FT


On 7/28/16 4:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

For some reason Curt's msgs. are now going straight into my spam folder.

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I've got a laundry marker, it can say anything you want...
-Curt

   From: Andrew Strasfogel 
  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ T-shirt

Do you have one with "Stras" on the back?
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Hey I keep forgetting to mention it. We've got a couple shirts left over
from ChowdaQ 2015, I think they're all XL but I can check. I'll let them go
for $20 shipped anywhere in the US or Canada.
Actually while I'm thinking about it I've got a couple of Lantern Lab
shirts left too, same deal.

I can't find my ChowdaQ'15 pics and I'm on the road right now so no pics
until I get back, heres the Lantern Lab shirt:
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/porch_edit_sm_zpswtgzod1l.jpg
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Putting a Lambo to good use - towing goats and bales of hay and water buffaloes

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Uh, they are an essential element to making more buffaloes, and milk 
from the cows


--FT


On 7/28/16 4:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
What are the male buffaloes good for then?  They can't be milked, 
unless what they yield is like a naturally occurring cial*s.


On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> wrote:


Hah!  de gullah peeples doan wanna doon dat

But there is a goat cheese maker right over close to where he is,
they have a little farm with goats, but they didn't want to fool
with the buffacows.  Apparently milking the buffacows takes a bit
of know-how as they are not entirely cooperative.  Otherwise
fairly docile but don't like to be fooled with like that.


On 7/28/16 3:51 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Get some gullah folk to help round em up and Milk em daily for
a cut

Max Dillon via Mercedes >
July 28, 2016 at 2:40 PM
He should import some Italian expertise and start making
fresh mozzarella di buffola, good fresh stuff is nearly
impossible to find here, and terribly expensive.


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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ T-shirt

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

For some reason Curt's msgs. are now going straight into my spam folder.

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I've got a laundry marker, it can say anything you want...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:56 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ T-shirt
>
> Do you have one with "Stras" on the back?
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Hey I keep forgetting to mention it. We've got a couple shirts left over
> from ChowdaQ 2015, I think they're all XL but I can check. I'll let them go
> for $20 shipped anywhere in the US or Canada.
> Actually while I'm thinking about it I've got a couple of Lantern Lab
> shirts left too, same deal.
>
> I can't find my ChowdaQ'15 pics and I'm on the road right now so no pics
> until I get back, heres the Lantern Lab shirt:
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/porch_edit_sm_zpswtgzod1l.jpg
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Putting a Lambo to good use - towing goats and bales of hay and water buffaloes

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What are the male buffaloes good for then?  They can't be milked, unless
what they yield is like a naturally occurring cial*s.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hah!  de gullah peeples doan wanna doon dat
>
> But there is a goat cheese maker right over close to where he is, they
> have a little farm with goats, but they didn't want to fool with the
> buffacows.  Apparently milking the buffacows takes a bit of know-how as
> they are not entirely cooperative.  Otherwise fairly docile but don't like
> to be fooled with like that.
>
>
> On 7/28/16 3:51 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Get some gullah folk to help round em up and Milk em daily for a cut
>>
>> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>> July 28, 2016 at 2:40 PM
>>> He should import some Italian expertise and start making fresh
>>> mozzarella di buffola, good fresh stuff is nearly impossible to find here,
>>> and terribly expensive.
>>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

They are a joint venture with Swatch, a watch company, and manufactured in
Alsace Lorraine (France).

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well, first off the ad is for a Smart! Is it legal for a Canadian Smart to
> live in the US? Don't we need a wall for that?
>
> The real wrongness though is the in all caps shout out to the non-existent
> automatic transmission. Smarts use an automated / clutchless manual
> transmission. I think Smart actually calls the thing a semi-automatic.
> While it *will* eventually shift itself, it expects you to treat it like a
> manual. IE let up off the gas slightly and hit the paddle shifter to move
> up or down the range. Trying to drive it like an automatic causes hard
> shifts and jerky driving that even reviewers initially complained about.
>
> Really, I just complain anytime someone talks about the automatic
> transmission in their Smart ForTwo. Even today they aren't an "automatic"
> transmissions. The third-gen smart has a dual clutch semi-auto manual
> transmission. Which is absurdly weird because you can also get a full on
> with clutch 5 spd manual.
>
> There is no torque converter, thus not an automatic. It has an
> electronically controlled clutch and I believe pneumatic gear selectors.
> Could be worse I guess, could be the old vacuum controlled autostick out of
> a Beetle. A vacuum controlled clutch ... I sometimes wonder what is wrong
> with Germans?
>
> Edd
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Ed wrote:
> > > There is wrongness within that post. Much wrongness.
> >
> > Really? - please explain.
> > My trip is now delayed - my satchel full of cash ready for purchase,
> > 4-hour trip south already planned.
> > ...harumph... nice way to dash a guy's plans...
> > mao
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Re: [MBZ] Putting a Lambo to good use - towing goats and bales of hay and water buffaloes

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Hah!  de gullah peeples doan wanna doon dat

But there is a goat cheese maker right over close to where he is, they 
have a little farm with goats, but they didn't want to fool with the 
buffacows.  Apparently milking the buffacows takes a bit of know-how as 
they are not entirely cooperative.  Otherwise fairly docile but don't 
like to be fooled with like that.



On 7/28/16 3:51 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Get some gullah folk to help round em up and Milk em daily for a cut


Max Dillon via Mercedes 
July 28, 2016 at 2:40 PM
He should import some Italian expertise and start making fresh 
mozzarella di buffola, good fresh stuff is nearly impossible to find 
here, and terribly expensive. 


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Re: [MBZ] Putting a Lambo to good use - towing goats and bales of hay and water buffaloes

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Get some gullah folk to help round em up and Milk em daily for a cut


Max Dillon via Mercedes 
July 28, 2016 at 2:40 PM
He should import some Italian expertise and start making fresh 
mozzarella di buffola, good fresh stuff is nearly impossible to find 
here, and terribly expensive.

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
July 28, 2016 at 1:26 PM
A buddy of mine ended up with some number of water buffaloes.  It is 
actually a pretty funny story.  I can't remember all the details but 
it involved a guy who had like 20 of the things he was going into the 
mozarella cheese business and needed some place to keep them. This was 
like 4 or 5 years ago, maybe 6.  My buddy has cattle he raises for 
beef for restaurants around here, and his farm is along the river, so 
for whatever rent he said sure he would keep them and do whatever with 
them, they can hang out in the river or ponds or whatever.


So time goes by and the guy is not dealing with the WBs, then goes 
dark, not paying anything and can't be reached.  Some months pass and 
he calls up and says he has found another place for them, so he says 
he'll come and get some to take wherever.   My buddy notices a few 
days later seems like there are more around so he counts them and is 
totally like WTF is going on, there's more of them now than there were 
before.  Seems rather than picking them up the guy dropped off more 
that he had been keeping somewhere else.  So now there's like 30-35 of 
them hanging around, and the guy disappears again.  Plus I think they 
started reproducing, there might have been a bull or two in the mix 
along in there at some point, or he brought them or something.


Then some other guy from Georgia calls and says he has bought them, 
some number of them, and wants to come get them.  My buddy by then is 
like come get every one of the damn things, I'm tired of fooling with 
them.  So the guy shows up with a tractor trailer, and starts loading 
then says he only bought 20 or 25 of them, he can't deal with the 
others, thank you very much.  So my buddy now has a bunch of the 
things around still, and reproducing.  They are pretty big, and fairly 
docile but stupid, so he just kinda lets them hang out with his other 
cattle.  He might have sold some or something but apparently the 
market is fairly limited to cheese producers and there aren't too many 
in that bidness.  I'm not sure they're any good for eating or they 
would be on menus around here.  I don't think anyone else wants to 
milk them so they just do whatever cows do.  You go over there and 
drive through the fields, and there are these big water buffaloes and 
babies hanging around in the pastures and the woods and whatnot, mixed 
in with his regular cattle, it's pretty funny, looks like Vietnam or 
some damn place.


--FT


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Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
July 28, 2016 at 11:48 AM
Spoiler alert: And don't get too attached either, as they will all need to
be slaughtered.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 12:09 AM, Craig via Mercedes 


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Craig via Mercedes 
July 27, 2016 at 11:09 PM
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 19:00:43 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes

What he said. But prepare before you get the cattle.


Craig

P.S. There was a spell in Colorado when we had no livestock.
One Sunday, our Pastor's wife, noting my western hat asked,
in the appropriate accent, "Well, cowboy, how many cows do
you have?" My response, "Aint got no cattle, but got two
head o' dog," got everyone nearby laughing.

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fmiser via Mercedes 
July 27, 2016 at 7:00 PM

It's work - but not necessarily _that_ much.

If only 10 of that 20 acres is in pasture, and there is a
water source, the cows could be just fine for weeks.  Or
months.  Unless the coyotes get them.  Or the cougars.  Or
they get sick.  But they don't need daily attention.  If so,
all the guys running cows around here would have no stock.

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Re: [MBZ] Putting a Lambo to good use - towing goats and bales of hay and water buffaloes

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

He should import some Italian expertise and start making fresh mozzarella di 
buffola, good fresh stuff is nearly impossible to find here, and terribly 
expensive.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 28, 2016 2:26:06 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>A buddy of mine ended up with some number of water buffaloes.  It is 
>actually a pretty funny story.  I can't remember all the details but it
>
>involved a guy who had like 20 of the things he was going into the 
>mozarella cheese business and needed some place to keep them. This was 
>like 4 or 5 years ago, maybe 6.  My buddy has cattle he raises for beef
>
>for restaurants around here, and his farm is along the river, so for 
>whatever rent he said sure he would keep them and do whatever with
>them, 
>they can hang out in the river or ponds or whatever.
>
>So time goes by and the guy is not dealing with the WBs, then goes
>dark, 
>not paying anything and can't be reached.  Some months pass and he
>calls 
>up and says he has found another place for them, so he says he'll come 
>and get some to take wherever.   My buddy notices a few days later
>seems 
>like there are more around so he counts them and is totally like WTF is
>
>going on, there's more of them now than there were before.  Seems
>rather 
>than picking them up the guy dropped off more that he had been keeping 
>somewhere else.  So now there's like 30-35 of them hanging around, and 
>the guy disappears again.  Plus I think they started reproducing, there
>
>might have been a bull or two in the mix along in there at some point, 
>or he brought them or something.
>
>Then some other guy from Georgia calls and says he has bought them,
>some 
>number of them, and wants to come get them.  My buddy by then is like 
>come get every one of the damn things, I'm tired of fooling with them. 
>
>So the guy shows up with a tractor trailer, and starts loading then
>says 
>he only bought 20 or 25 of them, he can't deal with the others, thank 
>you very much.  So my buddy now has a bunch of the things around still,
>
>and reproducing.  They are pretty big, and fairly docile but stupid, so
>
>he just kinda lets them hang out with his other cattle.  He might have 
>sold some or something but apparently the market is fairly limited to 
>cheese producers and there aren't too many in that bidness.  I'm not 
>sure they're any good for eating or they would be on menus around here.
> 
>I don't think anyone else wants to milk them so they just do whatever 
>cows do.  You go over there and drive through the fields, and there are
>
>these big water buffaloes and babies hanging around in the pastures and
>
>the woods and whatnot, mixed in with his regular cattle, it's pretty 
>funny, looks like Vietnam or some damn place.
>
>--FT
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Email: was: Cooling System Question W124

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

See:   
http://support.postbox-inc.com/hc/en-us/articles/202199920-Importing-Email-from-Thunderbird


In short, if your TB is configured for imap, it will pull in 
everything.  If TB is configured for POP3, it will pull mail on the 
server, but you will need to manually import files from your TB.


Postbox is a available for winders or Mac.  I am using it on Mac OS 
10.11 (El Crap)


I considered buying outlook for Mac, but the price kept driving me away, 
along with the difficulty of managing outlook. (loss of email, Etc)  
Postbox is way easier to manage.

Larry T via Mercedes 
July 28, 2016 at 11:57 AM
Thanks Curley! Finally an expert on email! I used Outlook for years 
then it stopped working then I went to Thunderbird. I like the 
flexibility of Outlook. Now it appears TB is becoming too much of a 
chore so I think i'll give Postbox a try. Think i can import T'bird 
emails? I use email heavily in my oil analysis business so it's 
important i maintain a email presence.


If Postbox has a free trial I willl o ahead and see if I like it. 
Thanks for the suggestions.


I'll troubleshoot my coling system once my IRT Stat arrives...
LarryT
91 300D


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Re: [MBZ] Poos next car

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I like that thing, but it looks like you would need C4 to do any work in 
that engine bay.


--FT


On 7/27/16 5:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


1993 Mercedes 600SL V12 convertible
http://grandisland.craigslist.org/cto/5703406717.html

via cPro for Craigslist
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice
Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


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Re: [MBZ] Putting a Lambo to good use - towing goats and bales of hay and water buffaloes

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

A buddy of mine ended up with some number of water buffaloes.  It is 
actually a pretty funny story.  I can't remember all the details but it 
involved a guy who had like 20 of the things he was going into the 
mozarella cheese business and needed some place to keep them. This was 
like 4 or 5 years ago, maybe 6.  My buddy has cattle he raises for beef 
for restaurants around here, and his farm is along the river, so for 
whatever rent he said sure he would keep them and do whatever with them, 
they can hang out in the river or ponds or whatever.


So time goes by and the guy is not dealing with the WBs, then goes dark, 
not paying anything and can't be reached.  Some months pass and he calls 
up and says he has found another place for them, so he says he'll come 
and get some to take wherever.   My buddy notices a few days later seems 
like there are more around so he counts them and is totally like WTF is 
going on, there's more of them now than there were before.  Seems rather 
than picking them up the guy dropped off more that he had been keeping 
somewhere else.  So now there's like 30-35 of them hanging around, and 
the guy disappears again.  Plus I think they started reproducing, there 
might have been a bull or two in the mix along in there at some point, 
or he brought them or something.


Then some other guy from Georgia calls and says he has bought them, some 
number of them, and wants to come get them.  My buddy by then is like 
come get every one of the damn things, I'm tired of fooling with them.  
So the guy shows up with a tractor trailer, and starts loading then says 
he only bought 20 or 25 of them, he can't deal with the others, thank 
you very much.  So my buddy now has a bunch of the things around still, 
and reproducing.  They are pretty big, and fairly docile but stupid, so 
he just kinda lets them hang out with his other cattle.  He might have 
sold some or something but apparently the market is fairly limited to 
cheese producers and there aren't too many in that bidness.  I'm not 
sure they're any good for eating or they would be on menus around here.  
I don't think anyone else wants to milk them so they just do whatever 
cows do.  You go over there and drive through the fields, and there are 
these big water buffaloes and babies hanging around in the pastures and 
the woods and whatnot, mixed in with his regular cattle, it's pretty 
funny, looks like Vietnam or some damn place.


--FT


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Re: [MBZ] Putting a Lambo to good use - towing goats and bales of hay

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

So for now Kleb is all hat no cattle

--FT


On 7/27/16 8:00 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

Curt wrote:

Lots of work having livestock. They need to be taken care
of nearly every single day or they die. Imagine how fun
it'll be when one is sick or something and remember you'll
need somebody to feed and water them when you're gone...


It's work - but not necessarily _that_ much.

If only 10 of that 20 acres is in pasture, and there is a
water source, the cows could be just fine for weeks.  Or
months.  Unless the coyotes get them.  Or the cougars.  Or
they get sick.  But they don't need daily attention.  If so,
all the guys running cows around here would have no stock.

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Well, first off the ad is for a Smart! Is it legal for a Canadian Smart to
live in the US? Don't we need a wall for that?

The real wrongness though is the in all caps shout out to the non-existent
automatic transmission. Smarts use an automated / clutchless manual
transmission. I think Smart actually calls the thing a semi-automatic.
While it *will* eventually shift itself, it expects you to treat it like a
manual. IE let up off the gas slightly and hit the paddle shifter to move
up or down the range. Trying to drive it like an automatic causes hard
shifts and jerky driving that even reviewers initially complained about.

Really, I just complain anytime someone talks about the automatic
transmission in their Smart ForTwo. Even today they aren't an "automatic"
transmissions. The third-gen smart has a dual clutch semi-auto manual
transmission. Which is absurdly weird because you can also get a full on
with clutch 5 spd manual.

There is no torque converter, thus not an automatic. It has an
electronically controlled clutch and I believe pneumatic gear selectors.
Could be worse I guess, could be the old vacuum controlled autostick out of
a Beetle. A vacuum controlled clutch ... I sometimes wonder what is wrong
with Germans?

Edd

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ed wrote:
> > There is wrongness within that post. Much wrongness.
>
> Really? - please explain.
> My trip is now delayed - my satchel full of cash ready for purchase,
> 4-hour trip south already planned.
> ...harumph... nice way to dash a guy's plans...
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It looks like one of these in each panel will do the trick:

https://www.amazon.com/Eaton-BRSURGE-Whole-Panel-Arrest-Breaker/dp/B00PM927KK

Or one of these specifically on the AC unit circuit:

https://www.amazon.com/Eaton-BR230SUR/dp/B00JV3EIG4

Not sure that will deal with voltage swings but if the issue is 
spikes/surges these should trip off the units or the whole panel?


--R


On 7/28/16 12:37 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Go the JC route:  Buy a used humongus APC UPS for cheep.  Buy some 
batteries to make it work.  Wire it in as a whole house (estate) 
unit.  Less costly over the long run than a bunch of UPSs/surge 
protector.one other route is what they call a buckbooster.  It is 
basically a big box (transformer and probably capacitors) that cleans 
up the line voltage


(JC in this case is Cathey)

This was/is a very common problem in Hawaii and in turd world countries.

And yes,  you can buy new surge protectors for each unit.  Trot on 
down to your friendly local electric supply.

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
July 28, 2016 at 11:17 AM
So at the water board meeting this morning our engineer was talking 
about some problems in the distribution system, seems as though a 
coupla weeks ago in the early morning the SCADA system started 
sending alarms, which woke her up, sensors on our 3 tanks were all 
over the place then one failed.  Looked like a power hit but there 
were no storms in the area, so it was the powerco sending out trash 
power, voltage up and down, surges, etc. which blew a $900 sensor on 
the tank that is pretty much across the road from my vast estate.


The manager of the other system on Seabrook Island, just down the 
road, said they were getting voltage readings on a 480V line of 
420-540V, all over the map, and that they lost a well pump (2300ft in 
the hole) they are going to have to pull and replace for $3k.


I said, when was that again?  It was exactly the time my AC unit 
board blew out, and we are on the same circuit as the water tank, and 
Seabrook feed off the same substation that is just down the road, so 
the powerco's shitty power blew out my $500 control board, the water 
cos' $900 sensor and $3k pump.  I wonder how many others lost 
electronics that night?


She says the powerco won't guarantee clean power on the Island, so we 
are all pretty much screwed on the cost of the equipment. Nice. So I 
need to look at getting some surge protectors on my AC units (220V 
30A circuits) -- are there line surge protectors I can wire in at the 
shutoffs by the units?  Or at the panel?


I guess I need to get some little UPSs or surge protectors for my TVs 
and stereo equipment too.  I have been thinking about that anyway as 
there are lightning hits around quite often, so that makes sense, and 
now with the AC unit.


--FT

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Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
July 15, 2016 at 6:52 AM



The bigger ones have lower ratings, but I just checked and the multi 
zone have higher ratings than one giant single zone:


Fujitsu Halcyon Inverter units:

36RLXB 3 ton single zone 15.5 SEER $3150

36RLXFZ 3 ton quad zone 18 SEER $4500-4900

9RLFW 3/4 ton single zone 23 SEER $1425 (the one I just gave to my 
parents)


9RLS3 3/4 ton single zone 33 SEER $1585


Note that four 9000BTU 23 SEER cost $800 more at ACWholesalers than 
one 18 SEER 36,000BTU outdoor unit with four 9000 BTU indoor units. 
But if you have a controller board failure, you still have three 
functioning units if you have four compressors.



Mitch.

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Craig via Mercedes 
July 14, 2016 at 10:29 PM
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 23:21:12 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes

That's interesting. I thought the bigger units had higher SEER ratings.


Craig

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Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
July 14, 2016 at 10:21 PM



Sounds like the outdoor unit could use a brain transplant.

Back when I bought mine in 2012, Mitsubishi, Fujitsu, and Dakin were 
the trusted names among the guys at HVAC-Talk. Somebody told me LGs 
were good too, but susceptible to voltage spikes or something. I 
think a whole house surge protector and dedicated ground rod at the 
outdoor unit were recommended.


I got a 3/4 ton Fujitsu in 2012. It sort of cooled 

Re: [MBZ] Email: was: Cooling System Question W124

[Larry T via Mercedes]

Thanks Curley! Finally an expert on email! I used Outlook for years then it 
stopped working then I went to Thunderbird. I like the flexibility of Outlook. 
Now it appears TB is becoming too much of a chore so I think i'll give Postbox 
a try. Think i can import T'bird emails? I use email heavily in my oil analysis 
business so it's important i maintain a email presence. 

If Postbox has a free trial I willl o ahead and see if I like it. Thanks for 
the suggestions. 

I'll troubleshoot my coling system once my IRT Stat arrives... 
LarryT 
91 300D 

- Original Message -

From: "Curley McLain via Mercedes"  
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"  
Cc: "Curley McLain" <126die...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 12:45:16 PM 
Subject: [MBZ] Email: was: Cooling System Question W124 

Larry, Look at Postbox email software. It is $20 after you try it out 
and make it work. It is very much similar to Eudora for setup and 
management. It imported my email from Eudora, something most "experts" 
say can't be done directly. https://www.postbox-inc.com For me it 
works so much like Eudora, that I consider it to be the next version of 
Eudora. I have about a half dozen email accounts feeding into 4 email 
file systems, all inside Postbox. I love it. 
If you set up postbox, then you can get a "throwaway" email account (or 
3) such as gmail and use one to subscribe to the Okiebenz list. FIlter 
all that Okiebenz into one mailbox and then you have an archive of MB 
solutions on your machine. 
> Larry T via Mercedes  
> July 28, 2016 at 11:12 AM 
> Hey Curly, I am happy to be back! I a still fighting my email program. 
> I have used Mozilla Thunderbird for quite a while and it frustrates me 
> more every day! So now I am using my XFinity email (which I hate) 
> because it works. But it is not flexible at all. Anyway, thanks for 
> the kind words. 
> I replaced all the cooling system parts - the T Stat is new as is the 
> radiator and pump. It almost never budges above the 100C mark - which 
> is what I think the mark above 80C is - and it's not using any 
> coolant, But it bugs me that it used to run at 80C all the time (or a 
> hair above it) and it no longer does. Maybe the gauge is off a little? 
> I'll have to check prices of IR T-Stats. 
> 
> Thx agn 
> LarryT 
> 91 300D 
> - Original Message - 
> 
> From: "Curley McLain via Mercedes"  
> To: curtlud...@yahoo.com, "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>  
> Cc: "Curley McLain" <126die...@gmail.com> 
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 9:43:11 PM 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Cooling System Question W124 
> 
> Stuck or not opening all the way thermostat would be my guess. 
> 
> But if Larry has a IR thermometer, he can take temps at all areas of the 
> radiator just after stopping fmor a highway run, with the engine 
> running. That will tell a lot. 
> 
> You also use the IR thermometer to verify the sender/gauge is reading 
> correctly. 
> 
> Good to hear from you again Larry! Don't be scarce! 
> 
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> Curley McLain  
> July 25, 2016 at 8:43 PM 
> Stuck or not opening all the way thermostat would be my guess. 
> 
> But if Larry has a IR thermometer, he can take temps at all areas of 
> the radiator just after stopping fmor a highway run, with the engine 
> running. That will tell a lot. 
> 
> You also use the IR thermometer to verify the sender/gauge is reading 
> correctly. 
> 
> Good to hear from you again Larry! Don't be scarce! 
> 
> 
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> July 25, 2016 at 8:07 PM 
> Whoops, I see that now. 
> Bad thermostat? Block it open and you'd know... 
> Curt 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 6:05 PM, David 
> Bruckmann wrote: The way I read his 
> post, the gauge is reading _at the mark above_ 180F vs the normal 
> _slightly above_ the 180F mark. 
> 
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> The way I read his post, the gauge is reading _at the mark above_ 180F 
> vs the normal _slightly 

Re: [MBZ] Putting a Lambo to good use - towing goats and bales of hay

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Spoiler alert:  And don't get too attached either, as they will all need to
be slaughtered.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 12:09 AM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 19:00:43 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > > Curt wrote:
> > >
> > > Lots of work having livestock. They need to be taken care
> > > of nearly every single day or they die. Imagine how fun
> > > it'll be when one is sick or something and remember you'll
> > > need somebody to feed and water them when you're gone...
> >
> > It's work - but not necessarily _that_ much.
> >
> > If only 10 of that 20 acres is in pasture, and there is a
> > water source, the cows could be just fine for weeks.  Or
> > months.  Unless the coyotes get them.  Or the cougars.  Or
> > they get sick.  But they don't need daily attention.  If so,
> > all the guys running cows around here would have no stock.
>
> What he said. But prepare before you get the cattle.
>
>
> Craig
>
> P.S. There was a spell in Colorado when we had no livestock.
>  One Sunday, our Pastor's wife, noting my western hat asked,
>  in the appropriate accent, "Well, cowboy, how many cows do
>  you have?" My response, "Aint got no cattle, but got two
>  head o' dog," got everyone nearby laughing.
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[MBZ] Email: was: Cooling System Question W124

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Larry, Look at Postbox email software.  It is $20 after you try it out 
and make it work.  It is very much similar to Eudora for setup and 
management.  It imported my email from Eudora, something most "experts" 
say can't be done directly.  https://www.postbox-inc.com   For me it 
works so much like Eudora, that I consider it to be the next version of 
Eudora.  I have about a half dozen email accounts feeding into 4 email 
file systems, all inside Postbox.   I love it.
If you set up postbox, then you can get a "throwaway" email account (or 
3) such as gmail and use one to subscribe to the Okiebenz list.  FIlter 
all that Okiebenz into one mailbox and then you have an archive of MB 
solutions on your machine.

Larry T via Mercedes 
July 28, 2016 at 11:12 AM
Hey Curly, I am happy to be back! I a still fighting my email program. 
I have used Mozilla Thunderbird for quite a while and it frustrates me 
more every day! So now I am using my XFinity email (which I hate) 
because it works. But it is not flexible at all. Anyway, thanks for 
the kind words.
I replaced all the cooling system parts - the T Stat is new as is the 
radiator and pump. It almost never budges above the 100C mark - which 
is what I think the mark above 80C is - and it's not using any 
coolant, But it bugs me that it used to run at 80C all the time (or a 
hair above it) and it no longer does. Maybe the gauge is off a little? 
I'll have to check prices of IR T-Stats.


Thx agn
LarryT
91 300D
- Original Message -

From: "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
To: curtlud...@yahoo.com, "Mercedes Discussion List" 


Cc: "Curley McLain" <126die...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 9:43:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Cooling System Question W124

Stuck or not opening all the way thermostat would be my guess.

But if Larry has a IR thermometer, he can take temps at all areas of the
radiator just after stopping fmor a highway run, with the engine
running. That will tell a lot.

You also use the IR thermometer to verify the sender/gauge is reading
correctly.

Good to hear from you again Larry! Don't be scarce!


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Curley McLain 
July 25, 2016 at 8:43 PM
Stuck or not opening all the way thermostat would be my guess.

But if Larry has a IR thermometer, he can take temps at all areas of 
the radiator just after stopping fmor a highway run, with the engine 
running.  That will tell a lot.


You also use the IR thermometer to verify the sender/gauge is reading 
correctly.


Good to hear from you again Larry!  Don't be scarce!


Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
July 25, 2016 at 8:07 PM
Whoops, I see that now.
Bad thermostat? Block it open and you'd know...
Curt

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On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 6:05 PM, David 
Bruckmann wrote: The way I read his 
post, the gauge is reading _at the mark above_ 180F vs the normal 
_slightly above_ the 180F mark.




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David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
July 25, 2016 at 8:05 PM
The way I read his post, the gauge is reading _at the mark above_ 180F 
vs the normal _slightly above_ the 180F mark.




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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Ed wrote:
> There is wrongness within that post. Much wrongness.

Really? - please explain.
My trip is now delayed - my satchel full of cash ready for purchase,
4-hour trip south already planned.
...harumph... nice way to dash a guy's plans...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT Seiko 5 SNK809 one week update

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Scott wrote:
> GPS is the most accurate time source available...

Is there calculation in the display time on whatever device for time
consumed in getting signal to receiver?  Sure, it is insignificant to
average Joe, but I would guess that there is a calculation from
geo-synchronous orbit to ground and tcp/ip to device - whatever.  I
would suspect that there might be a standard fraction of a second in
the calculator?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Go the JC route:  Buy a used humongus APC UPS for cheep.  Buy some 
batteries to make it work.  Wire it in as a whole house (estate) unit.  
Less costly over the long run than a bunch of UPSs/surge protector.
one other route is what they call a buckbooster.  It is basically a big 
box (transformer and probably capacitors) that cleans up the line voltage


(JC in this case is Cathey)

This was/is a very common problem in Hawaii and in turd world countries.

And yes,  you can buy new surge protectors for each unit.  Trot on down 
to your friendly local electric supply.

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
July 28, 2016 at 11:17 AM
So at the water board meeting this morning our engineer was talking 
about some problems in the distribution system, seems as though a 
coupla weeks ago in the early morning the SCADA system started sending 
alarms, which woke her up, sensors on our 3 tanks were all over the 
place then one failed.  Looked like a power hit but there were no 
storms in the area, so it was the powerco sending out trash power, 
voltage up and down, surges, etc. which blew a $900 sensor on the tank 
that is pretty much across the road from my vast estate.


The manager of the other system on Seabrook Island, just down the 
road, said they were getting voltage readings on a 480V line of 
420-540V, all over the map, and that they lost a well pump (2300ft in 
the hole) they are going to have to pull and replace for $3k.


I said, when was that again?  It was exactly the time my AC unit board 
blew out, and we are on the same circuit as the water tank, and 
Seabrook feed off the same substation that is just down the road, so 
the powerco's shitty power blew out my $500 control board, the water 
cos' $900 sensor and $3k pump.  I wonder how many others lost 
electronics that night?


She says the powerco won't guarantee clean power on the Island, so we 
are all pretty much screwed on the cost of the equipment.  Nice. So I 
need to look at getting some surge protectors on my AC units (220V 30A 
circuits) -- are there line surge protectors I can wire in at the 
shutoffs by the units?  Or at the panel?


I guess I need to get some little UPSs or surge protectors for my TVs 
and stereo equipment too.  I have been thinking about that anyway as 
there are lightning hits around quite often, so that makes sense, and 
now with the AC unit.


--FT

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Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
July 15, 2016 at 6:52 AM



The bigger ones have lower ratings, but I just checked and the multi 
zone have higher ratings than one giant single zone:


Fujitsu Halcyon Inverter units:

36RLXB 3 ton single zone 15.5 SEER $3150

36RLXFZ 3 ton quad zone 18 SEER $4500-4900

9RLFW 3/4 ton single zone 23 SEER $1425 (the one I just gave to my 
parents)


9RLS3 3/4 ton single zone 33 SEER $1585


Note that four 9000BTU 23 SEER cost $800 more at ACWholesalers than 
one 18 SEER 36,000BTU outdoor unit with four 9000 BTU indoor units. 
But if you have a controller board failure, you still have three 
functioning units if you have four compressors.



Mitch.

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Craig via Mercedes 
July 14, 2016 at 10:29 PM
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 23:21:12 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes

That's interesting. I thought the bigger units had higher SEER ratings.


Craig

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Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
July 14, 2016 at 10:21 PM



Sounds like the outdoor unit could use a brain transplant.

Back when I bought mine in 2012, Mitsubishi, Fujitsu, and Dakin were 
the trusted names among the guys at HVAC-Talk. Somebody told me LGs 
were good too, but susceptible to voltage spikes or something. I think 
a whole house surge protector and dedicated ground rod at the outdoor 
unit were recommended.


I got a 3/4 ton Fujitsu in 2012. It sort of cooled my whole house 
before I put in a central heat pump, I hadn't really used it much 
since then.


Took it out of my living room and put it in my parents' bedroom last 
month. Mom sets it at 78 to keep it from freezing her out of their 
master suite. I used to set it in the 70-74 range and run my furnace 
blower to spread it around the house.


We'd been talking about buying a three way Mitsubishi for my parents' 
living room / dining room / 

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Cooling System Question W124

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

There is a cheap IR thermometer at HF that is not much more than an inch 
long.  It is in a lanyard like a pendant.  I have compared its results 
to the full size HF and to calibrated IR thermometers.  It is close 
enough.  _+ 1º




Larry T via Mercedes 
July 28, 2016 at 11:12 AM
Hey Curly, I am happy to be back! I a still fighting my email program. 
I have used Mozilla Thunderbird for quite a while and it frustrates me 
more every day! So now I am using my XFinity email (which I hate) 
because it works. But it is not flexible at all. Anyway, thanks for 
the kind words.
I replaced all the cooling system parts - the T Stat is new as is the 
radiator and pump. It almost never budges above the 100C mark - which 
is what I think the mark above 80C is - and it's not using any 
coolant, But it bugs me that it used to run at 80C all the time (or a 
hair above it) and it no longer does. Maybe the gauge is off a little? 
I'll have to check prices of IR T-Stats.


Thx agn
LarryT
91 300D
- Original Message -

From: "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
To: curtlud...@yahoo.com, "Mercedes Discussion List" 


Cc: "Curley McLain" <126die...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 9:43:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Cooling System Question W124

Stuck or not opening all the way thermostat would be my guess.

But if Larry has a IR thermometer, he can take temps at all areas of the
radiator just after stopping fmor a highway run, with the engine
running. That will tell a lot.

You also use the IR thermometer to verify the sender/gauge is reading
correctly.

Good to hear from you again Larry! Don't be scarce!


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Curley McLain 
July 25, 2016 at 8:43 PM
Stuck or not opening all the way thermostat would be my guess.

But if Larry has a IR thermometer, he can take temps at all areas of 
the radiator just after stopping fmor a highway run, with the engine 
running.  That will tell a lot.


You also use the IR thermometer to verify the sender/gauge is reading 
correctly.


Good to hear from you again Larry!  Don't be scarce!


Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
July 25, 2016 at 8:07 PM
Whoops, I see that now.
Bad thermostat? Block it open and you'd know...
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 6:05 PM, David 
Bruckmann wrote: The way I read his 
post, the gauge is reading _at the mark above_ 180F vs the normal 
_slightly above_ the 180F mark.




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David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
July 25, 2016 at 8:05 PM
The way I read his post, the gauge is reading _at the mark above_ 180F 
vs the normal _slightly above_ the 180F mark.




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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Cooling System Question W124

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Not necessarily.  Use a IR thermometer to determine the actual head 
temps and radiator temps at various places.  It is possible for the 
temps to be ok, but the gauge system is off a bit.



Larry T via Mercedes 
July 28, 2016 at 11:01 AM
But it's running at the mark above 80C. I am guessing it is for 100C? 
Too hot IMO.


Right?

LarryT
91 300D

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From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Curt Raymond" 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 8:50:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Cooling System Question W124

180F is 82C which I'd consider right on. What were you thinking? All 
my MBs when they were working right would sit the temp just over the 
80c mark.

Curt

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On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Larry Turnercatalina$27 via 
Mercedes wrote:










Hi Gang,

My 91 300D is running pretty well with 265K Plus miles - except for
a small problem. During June and July 2014 I replaced the Radiator,
Water Pump, Thermostat and the thing that controls the fan speed (the
name escapes me) and I am seeing coolant temps running consistently at
the mark above 180. I used to see temps around 1/8" above the 180 mark.

It never gets much higher than that and we have had 95+F recently.
My wife drives approx 32 min RT to/from work and she only hits 1 or 2
traffic lights along the way. So the speeds are mostly around 45-60mph
the whole way.

I didn't use a MB Radiator (the original had a broken upper
nozzle). Is it likely that's the problem? It's alum with upper and
lower plastic sections and seemed to match exactly.

What else should I look at?

NE">








Hi Gang,
 My 91 300D is
running pretty well with 265K Plus miles - except for a
small problem. During June and July 2014 I replaced the
Radiator, Water Pump, Thermostat and the thing that controls
the fan speed (the name escapes me) and I am seeing coolant
temps running consistently at the mark above 180. I used to
see temps around 1/8" above the 180 mark.
  It never gets much
higher than that and we have had 95+F recently. My wife
drives approx 32 min RT to/from work and she only hits 1 or 2
traffic lights along the way. So the speeds are mostly around
45-60mph the whole way.
 I didn't use a MB
Radiator (the original had a broken upper nozzle). Is it
likely that's the problem? It's alum with upper and lower
plastic sections and seemed to match exactly. 

 What else should I
look at?




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Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
July 25, 2016 at 7:50 PM
180F is 82C which I'd consider right on. What were you thinking? All 
my MBs when they were working right would sit the temp just over the 
80c mark.

Curt

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On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Larry Turnercatalina$27 via 
Mercedes wrote:










Hi Gang,

My 91 300D is running pretty well with 265K Plus miles - except for
a small problem.  During June and July 2014 I replaced the Radiator,
Water Pump, Thermostat and the thing that controls the fan speed (the
name escapes me) and I am seeing coolant temps running consistently at
the mark above 180.  I used to see temps around 1/8" above the 180 mark.

  It never gets much higher than that and we have had 95+F recently.
My wife drives approx 32 min RT to/from work and she only hits 1 or 2
traffic lights along the way.  So the speeds are mostly around 45-60mph
the whole way.

I didn't use a MB Radiator (the original had a broken upper
nozzle).  Is it likely that's the problem?  It's alum with upper and
lower plastic sections and seemed to match exactly.

What else should I look at?

NE">








Hi Gang,
My 91 300D is
running pretty well with 265K Plus miles - except for a
small problem.  During June and July 2014 I replaced the
Radiator, Water Pump, Thermostat and the thing that controls
the fan speed (the name escapes me) and I am seeing coolant
temps running consistently at the mark above 180.  I used to
see temps around 1/8" above the 180 mark.
   It never gets much
  higher than that and we have had 95+F 

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Cooling System Question W124

[Larry T via Mercedes]

Wow - I never knew IR TStats were so inexpensive! On ebay they are $10 on up! 
I'm gonna have one soon ;-) 
LarryT 

- Original Message -

From: "Larry T via Mercedes"  
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: "Larry T"  
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 12:12:15 PM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Cooling System Question W124 


Hey Curly, I am happy to be back! I a still fighting my email program. I have 
used Mozilla Thunderbird for quite a while and it frustrates me more every day! 
So now I am using my XFinity email (which I hate) because it works. But it is 
not flexible at all. Anyway, thanks for the kind words. 
I replaced all the cooling system parts - the T Stat is new as is the radiator 
and pump. It almost never budges above the 100C mark - which is what I think 
the mark above 80C is - and it's not using any coolant, But it bugs me that it 
used to run at 80C all the time (or a hair above it) and it no longer does. 
Maybe the gauge is off a little? I'll have to check prices of IR T-Stats. 

Thx agn 
LarryT 
91 300D 
- Original Message - 

From: "Curley McLain via Mercedes"  
To: curtlud...@yahoo.com, "Mercedes Discussion List"  
Cc: "Curley McLain" <126die...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 9:43:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Cooling System Question W124 

Stuck or not opening all the way thermostat would be my guess. 

But if Larry has a IR thermometer, he can take temps at all areas of the 
radiator just after stopping fmor a highway run, with the engine 
running. That will tell a lot. 

You also use the IR thermometer to verify the sender/gauge is reading 
correctly. 

Good to hear from you again Larry! Don't be scarce! 

> Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> July 25, 2016 at 8:07 PM 
> Whoops, I see that now. 
> Bad thermostat? Block it open and you'd know... 
> Curt 
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> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 6:05 PM, David 
> Bruckmann wrote: The way I read his 
> post, the gauge is reading _at the mark above_ 180F vs the normal 
> _slightly above_ the 180F mark. 
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> July 25, 2016 at 8:05 PM 
> The way I read his post, the gauge is reading _at the mark above_ 180F 
> vs the normal _slightly above_ the 180F mark. 
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Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC issue

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

So at the water board meeting this morning our engineer was talking 
about some problems in the distribution system, seems as though a coupla 
weeks ago in the early morning the SCADA system started sending alarms, 
which woke her up, sensors on our 3 tanks were all over the place then 
one failed.  Looked like a power hit but there were no storms in the 
area, so it was the powerco sending out trash power, voltage up and 
down, surges, etc. which blew a $900 sensor on the tank that is pretty 
much across the road from my vast estate.


The manager of the other system on Seabrook Island, just down the road, 
said they were getting voltage readings on a 480V line of 420-540V, all 
over the map, and that they lost a well pump (2300ft in the hole) they 
are going to have to pull and replace for $3k.


I said, when was that again?  It was exactly the time my AC unit board 
blew out, and we are on the same circuit as the water tank, and Seabrook 
feed off the same substation that is just down the road, so the 
powerco's shitty power blew out my $500 control board, the water cos' 
$900 sensor and $3k pump.  I wonder how many others lost electronics 
that night?


She says the powerco won't guarantee clean power on the Island, so we 
are all pretty much screwed on the cost of the equipment.  Nice. So I 
need to look at getting some surge protectors on my AC units (220V 30A 
circuits) -- are there line surge protectors I can wire in at the 
shutoffs by the units?  Or at the panel?


I guess I need to get some little UPSs or surge protectors for my TVs 
and stereo equipment too.  I have been thinking about that anyway as 
there are lightning hits around quite often, so that makes sense, and 
now with the AC unit.


--FT

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Cooling System Question W124

[Larry T via Mercedes]

Hey Curly, I am happy to be back! I a still fighting my email program. I have 
used Mozilla Thunderbird for quite a while and it frustrates me more every day! 
So now I am using my XFinity email (which I hate) because it works. But it is 
not flexible at all. Anyway, thanks for the kind words. 
I replaced all the cooling system parts - the T Stat is new as is the radiator 
and pump. It almost never budges above the 100C mark - which is what I think 
the mark above 80C is - and it's not using any coolant, But it bugs me that it 
used to run at 80C all the time (or a hair above it) and it no longer does. 
Maybe the gauge is off a little? I'll have to check prices of IR T-Stats. 

Thx agn 
LarryT 
91 300D 
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From: "Curley McLain via Mercedes"  
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Cc: "Curley McLain" <126die...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 9:43:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Cooling System Question W124 

Stuck or not opening all the way thermostat would be my guess. 

But if Larry has a IR thermometer, he can take temps at all areas of the 
radiator just after stopping fmor a highway run, with the engine 
running. That will tell a lot. 

You also use the IR thermometer to verify the sender/gauge is reading 
correctly. 

Good to hear from you again Larry! Don't be scarce! 

> Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> July 25, 2016 at 8:07 PM 
> Whoops, I see that now. 
> Bad thermostat? Block it open and you'd know... 
> Curt 
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> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 6:05 PM, David 
> Bruckmann wrote: The way I read his 
> post, the gauge is reading _at the mark above_ 180F vs the normal 
> _slightly above_ the 180F mark. 
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> July 25, 2016 at 8:05 PM 
> The way I read his post, the gauge is reading _at the mark above_ 180F 
> vs the normal _slightly above_ the 180F mark. 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Cooling System Question W124

[Larry T via Mercedes]

But it's running at the mark above 80C. I am guessing it is for 100C? Too hot 
IMO. 

Right? 

LarryT 
91 300D 

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From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes"  
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Cc: "Curt Raymond"  
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 8:50:01 PM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Cooling System Question W124 

180F is 82C which I'd consider right on. What were you thinking? All my MBs 
when they were working right would sit the temp just over the 80c mark. 
Curt 

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On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Larry Turnercatalina$27 via 
Mercedes wrote: 









Hi Gang, 

My 91 300D is running pretty well with 265K Plus miles - except for 
a small problem. During June and July 2014 I replaced the Radiator, 
Water Pump, Thermostat and the thing that controls the fan speed (the 
name escapes me) and I am seeing coolant temps running consistently at 
the mark above 180. I used to see temps around 1/8" above the 180 mark. 

It never gets much higher than that and we have had 95+F recently. 
My wife drives approx 32 min RT to/from work and she only hits 1 or 2 
traffic lights along the way. So the speeds are mostly around 45-60mph 
the whole way. 

I didn't use a MB Radiator (the original had a broken upper 
nozzle). Is it likely that's the problem? It's alum with upper and 
lower plastic sections and seemed to match exactly. 

What else should I look at? 

NE"> 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Hi Gang, 
 My 91 300D is 
running pretty well with 265K Plus miles - except for a 
small problem. During June and July 2014 I replaced the 
Radiator, Water Pump, Thermostat and the thing that controls 
the fan speed (the name escapes me) and I am seeing coolant 
temps running consistently at the mark above 180. I used to 
see temps around 1/8" above the 180 mark. 
  It never gets much 
higher than that and we have had 95+F recently. My wife 
drives approx 32 min RT to/from work and she only hits 1 or 2 
traffic lights along the way. So the speeds are mostly around 
45-60mph the whole way. 
 I didn't use a MB 
Radiator (the original had a broken upper nozzle). Is it 
likely that's the problem? It's alum with upper and lower 
plastic sections and seemed to match exactly.  
 
 What else should I 
look at? 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

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There is wrongness within that post. Much wrongness.

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