Re: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Agree and agree!

SWMBO absolutely agrees regarding military training. She worked in the pilot 
training unit at Alaska Air.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott 
Ritchey via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:05 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Cc: Scott Ritchey
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!

Both things can be true, IMO.  
Military training is (IMO) why US airlines have better cockpit crews than other 
airlines.  

> -Original Message-
> From:  Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
> ...
> 
> Maybe I have a different point of view but when these sort of things happen
> they call the pilot a hero. I call it them doing their job.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

The "breaking news" initial reports were ambiguous and confusing, as they often 
are. But at this point it looks like Max has it right.

Greg

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Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:18 AM
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Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!

My understanding is that one lady got sucked out up to her waist,
passengers pulled her back in, but she died later.  I don't think anyone
else got sucked out.  The first report (cabin crew report to flight deck)
of any bad news is almost always worse than reality, or interpreted with a
bias toward the worst case by the receiver, so "partially sucked out the
window" became "sucked out of the airplane".

-
Max
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Re: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I think I'll stick to aisle seats in the future.

Greg

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via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:56 AM
To: Mercedes
Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!

https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-pilot-who-saved-that-southwest-flight-is-a-badass-1825341463



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Re: [MBZ] Costco Mobil 1 $26.99

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Even the ESP stuff is fairly cheap, and saves the number of oil changes needed 
if you go to extended intervals. Cars and mechanical work are expensive; IMO it 
makes sense to spend a bit more for better performance under adverse conditions.

As far as quickie oil change places: When changing oil on a Benz or VW, I do it 
from the top with the MityVac in much less time than spending that time waiting 
in line to have some barely employable kid screw up my car. For the Powerchoke 
I bring oil and filter to my indy and avoid crawling under the truck. He's a 
real mechanic who finds and repairs things I would likely miss.

YMMV

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don via 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 10:18 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: OK Don
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Costco Mobil 1 $26.99

Despite Herr Booth's claims of drastically reduced timing chain wear (back
in the day) with M1, I've switched to cheap oil based on "big data"
analysis:

https://www.blackstone-labs.com/Newsletters/Gas-Diesel/July-1-2017.php


On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:32 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> Friend said that he got M1 yesterday for 22.xx at Dead Sam's plus 10.00
> online coupon.  Going to check it our myself for the 300CD.
> Dwight
>
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Not a bad deal, $4.50 / qt for 0w-40.
> >
> > A new Costco is going up just up the road from my place in Mt. Plastic,
> so
> > all those new apartment residences in south Mt. P can drive by my place
> to
> > get to the Costco in north Mt. P.  We're getting a Home Despot as well,
> > good times.  Need a flying car pretty soon, or maybe I'll have to get
> > around by boat.
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 8:29 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > This seems like a good price
> > >
> > > https://www.costco.com/CatalogSearch?dept=All&keyword=Mobil+
> > > 1+Synthetic+Motor+Oil&EMID=B2C_2018_0416_Bridgestone
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] fuel prices?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Poutine...wasn't he the PM of Canada?

Greg

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Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 12:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel prices?

As in "freedom" vs. French fries.  That's poutine w/o gravy.

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In class we talk about the maximum length of a 1Gb copper network cable
> which is "100 meters or 328 freedom feet."
>
> Try saying "Freedom Feet" fast, heck try saying it slow...
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, April 16, 2018, 2:27:19 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I guess you will need to define "freedom unit".
>
> RB
>
> On 16/04/2018 1:11 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > How much is that in Freedom Units?
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> > On 4/16/18 12:22 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Are fuel prices changing where you folks are?
> >>
> >> We have seen a 25% increase in the past couple of weeks. It has gone
> >> from about $1 per liter to $1.25 per liter for regular gasoline in
> >> the last short while.
> >>
> >> RB
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT high achievement yesterday

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I'm kind of like that too...I'm not afraid of heights as long as I can keep one 
foot on the ground.

I had a tough time of it when I worked as a steamfitter-rigger on a powerhouse 
in the Hudson Valley across the river from West Point. As a member of the "bull 
gang" I often had to climb ladders like that with a chain fall over my 
shoulders to hook up to a beam...crawling out on the beam to get it in the 
right spot. I did become somewhat desensitized, but never liked it.

Greg

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via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:17 AM
To: Okie Benz
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT high achievement yesterday

Holy mother of pearl!  I’m not afraid of heights as long as I’ve got a solid 
surface below me, but there is no way I would go up on that.

You’re far more of a man than I’ll ever be.  No way I would go up a ladder to 
that height.

-D


> On Apr 15, 2018, at 1:03 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I rented a forty foot ladder yesterday to address a problem with the chimney 
> chase cap.  After twenty-four years it had rusted through and water was 
> dripping onto the fire box.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
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Re: [MBZ] LOWERED 1985 Mercedes 380sl -- Opiod abuse is rampant

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

And all it needs are a new top and new seat covers!

Greg

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Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:31 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] LOWERED 1985 Mercedes 380sl -- Opiod abuse is rampant

Most of these things are bringing nearly three times what we are asking it is a 
fair car and a fair price.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/lowered-1985-mercedes-380sl/6552595108.html

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--FT


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Homeowner's Insurance WIN!

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Winning with the InsCos is a SUPERWIN!

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
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Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 3:48 AM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Homeowner's Insurance WIN!

A month or so ago we were having a get together for the mother in law’s 80th 
birthday.  Wife is leaning back on the couch in the family room and notices a 
stain on the ceiling  Dang. Roof leak.

We had just had some really violent storms blow through, so we figured they 
were the cause of the leak.  Our house is just about 20 years old, so we knew 
it was close to new roof time.  We were hoping it would be another year or two 
before we had to replace the roof, but this looked like it was going to force 
the matter. Darn.

Understand that there is quite the cottage industry using software that closely 
monitors the NOAA weather radars and will use GIS to extract exact addresses 
under storm tracks and then send a compiled list of those addresses to 
subscribers (roofing companies.) These fine folks take that information and 
canvass the neighborhoods in an attempt to sell new roofs or repairs using the 
homeowner’s insurer.  Basically, they inspect the roof, manage the claim with 
the insurer, and have the homeowner sign an AOB (assignment of benefits) so 
that they are paid directly for the work.  This isn’t a bad thing necessarily, 
however, you’re now locked in to this contractor, like it or not, and they’ll 
get the proceeds of your insurance payout regardless of what the work costs.

Anyway, I had avoided these people despite their presence in our area.  I 
checked with a couple of friends who had their roofs done recently and got 
referrals for a couple of contractors.

One contractor came a few weeks ago, spent about 30 minutes on the roof, gave 
me a quote and said that in their opinion there was little to nothing to 
warrant an insurance claim.  Bummer.

A day later I was talking to my insurance agent about getting an updated quote 
on my homeowner’s insurance once the roof was replaced.  By bringing the roof 
up to current code (hurricane requirements) I would get a significant discount 
in my homeowner’s insurance.  I mentioned the leak and that I was getting 
quotes for a replacement.  He told me I should file a claim with my insurer.  
After all, what’s the worst thing that could happen, right?

So the following Tuesday I was working from home and had already scheduled 
another roofing contractor to come out and give me an estimate.  The insurance 
adjuster said he could come the same day.  That works for me….

They both showed up at the same time.  Not sure if this is good or bad.

So they’re both on the roof for a good 45 minutes.  The insurance adjuster 
comes down and inspects the interior of the house, checks out the stain on the 
ceiling, etc.  He finishes up and leaves.

The contractor comes down and sits down with me.  He’s got a good 15 minutes of 
video on his iPad showing me all of the damage and wear on the roof.  He tells 
me that he spent at least 30 minutes of his time with the insurance adjuster 
showing him all the issues he found.  Chalk marks all over the roof, lots and 
lots of notes, this guy was super thorough.  He gives me a quote and heads out.

Fast forward to Thursday of this week.  I get a call from the insurance 
company.  They’re going to replace the whole roof!  Woo-hoo!  I have to believe 
it’s due to the efforts of the contractor that went over everything in such 
detail with the insurance adjustor.  You can guess who got the job.

So in 2-3 weeks I’m going to have a new, hurricane rated roof at no out of 
pocket cost.  Nice.  And my insurance costs are going to drop about 40%, too.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have read that SSDs have a much longer lifespan, and are a lot faster to boot 
(pun attempt).

Also, I too favor WD over the competition.

My solution was a NAS with a pair of red 4TB WD HDs. The cost for the WD 
MyCloud Mirror was no more than the cost of the 2 HDs in it. It also runs my 
HDHomerun DVR software in its spare time.

Greg

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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:18 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: OK Don
Subject: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

My boot disk and the second disk - used for backing up photos, etc. are almost 
full. This is an older (9 years old) HP consumer box.

I'm seeing 4TB disks for reasonable prices, Seagate and Western Digital.
What have the rest of you experienced in terms of drive reliability/life?

I only have two drive bays in the case - seems inadequate today . . .

I'd hate to have to rebuild the box from scratch, with the licensing hassles 
from M$ and Adobe, etc., but am also thinking of one of those HP workstations 
Curt was recommending a few years ago.


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Re: [MBZ] Opinions on speakers

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

From what I know about speaker brands (really based more on home audio rather 
than car audio) I don't think that Bose speakers are anything super special. If 
the current setup sounds fine I would leave it the way it is. That said, I'm 
very happy with the sound of the premium system (with Bose speakers) in my '02 
ML.

I'm curious what others have to say.

Greg

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Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 11:32 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: [MBZ] Opinions on speakers

I am slowly sorting out this 92 300sd with the new crate motor I got for $350. 
I currently have the 2 drivers side door panels off and I noticed the larger of 
the 2 speakers in the front door was replaced with an Infiniti speaker instead 
of the bose speaker. Same with the one in the rear. I don’t know what is behind 
the other 2 panels. The radio is an aftermarket jvc unit. The amp is missing in 
the trunk but I have one and I think I can put the original system back 
together. I believe that’s what I plan to do. Should I swap out these door 
units and try to find the correct speakers that came with the car? I should 
have some around but didn’t know if these might some be better. I appear to 
have some vacuum leaks as well, ace appears to be defaulted to defrost. 

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Re: [MBZ] Saab story on BAT

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

There's a guy in Portland who runs a tire shop, he does some sort of 
specialized racing that uses old Saabs. Maybe that interest contributes to the 
value of these. I can't think of any other reason.

Greg

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Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 6:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Saab story on BAT

Sold for $14,250.  OMG!

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 8:05 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That right... the windows actually pivoted on a point at the front.
>
> Neat quirky car.  I had one... a V4.  I'd still buy a 2 stroke one, 
> but the
> V4 never really excited me.  Crude, rough.  But I got 30mpg when I 
> drove it drown to visit Chip (with no brakes, but thats another story)
>
> Jaime
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Neighbors in Wisconsin had one very much like this (same color too), 
> > with the original two-stroke engine.  I believe it was in the family from 
> > new.
> > I rode in it a few times, including once when the young driver with 
> > a learner permit crashed into a tree and wrinkled the front right fender.
> >
> > IIRC the front windows were strange in that they didn't roll down, 
> > but opened in some other way.
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I carpooled with a nutty grad student back in my U of M days who 
> > > drove
> > one
> > > of these.  He had to add a liter (pint ?) of oil with each 7 gals 
> > > of
> gas,
> > > IIRC.  Very peppy and iconic, but an evolutionary dead end.  
> > > Anyone
> know
> > > about these?  Has been bid to over $7k as we speak.
> > >
> > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-saab-96-v4/?utm_
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[MBZ] OT: Lockheed Fusion Reactor Patent

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Faster, Please!

 

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/19652/lockheed-martin-now-has-a-patent-for-its-potentially-world-changing-fusion-reactor

 

Greg

 

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Re: [MBZ] Crazy as BAT?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I think the yellow box contains the warning triangle.

I also noticed the incorrect headlight doors, the strange HVAC and the battery 
corrosion. I'm no Martha, but even I would not tolerate that battery corrosion 
(much less in a sale photo); it makes me wonder about any minimal preventive 
maintenance!

Is this a cobbled-together rat?

Greg

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Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:06 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Crazy as BAT?

On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 11:02:19 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:

> DIscuss:
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/263562581681?rmvSB=true

If it's Euro:

Why the MBTex on the seats?

Why the U.S. headlight doors?

The HVAC control looks like a combination of a W123 240D and I don't know what 
...

The blue carpeting behind the jump seat looks a little odd ...

What is he trying to show in
https://mercedesheritage.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/41b.jpg
with the panel inside of the fuel filler pulled out? A secret document storage 
area? What are the yellow object and the pocket with a plastic bag with white 
objects with lettering on them? Also, in this picture, the blue carpeting looks 
grey.

What is the brownish discoloration of the white engine bay underneath the air 
filter?

It looks like they put a 300D (with turbo) hood insulation on.

For all of their wonderful detailing, the positive battery terminal is very 
corroded.

It has been driven in salt. You can tell from the alternator and other things 
in https://mercedesheritage.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/41b.jpg


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Poos next car

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Does that count as GREEN?

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] Poos next car

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-500-Series-560SEL-STRETCH-LIMOUSINE-FLORIDA-NO-RESERVE/263561644680?hash=item3d5d7f8a88:g:q04AAOSwGBdasat0&vxp=mtr


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Re: [MBZ] FML Tuesday

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I was looking at those before I bought the ML. The Airmatic suspensions scared 
me off. Apparently even just the parts cost is astronomical, and failure at ~ 
100 k miles seems to be fairly common, with "professional" repairs not always 
successful.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] FML Tuesday

If everything really works this looks like a deal.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 11:20 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> But I could have drug this home for what I spent
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/2006-mercedes-
> r350-4matic-low/6536432138.html
>
> clay
>
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>
>
> > On Mar 20, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Clay sez:
> >
> >> The weight of three old cars has come >crashing down on my wallet.
> >
> > Time for a W210.
> >
> > Rick
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Whirlpool warrant support

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I would think that a gas stovetop and an electrical-fired oven would be the 
best combination. My house is all electric. The oven is fine,but my stovetop is 
certainly sub-optimal.

Greg

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via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 11:24 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Mitch Haley
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Whirlpool warrant support

An oven with a standing pilot might be nice to have, except in the summer when 
you don't want to keep a fire burning 24/7...

But I have no problem with electronic ignition burners, they light with a match 
just as easily as the burners on your old relic. 

Mitch. 

> On March 18, 2018 at 2:04 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> +1   The cottage has a 1940 vintage apt size gas stove, that I will 
> never get rid of.   Lighting with a match is positive.  You always know 
> if the gas is lit.   It always works when the lektrick is out.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Whirlpool warrant support

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I'm a bit surprised. I have had some unexpected good service from Whirlpool. I 
bought a reduced price Gladiator brand toolchest that was missing a key. They 
mailed me some free of charge. I bought an old commercial grade KitchenAid 
stand mixer from CL that had a defective clip to hold the bowl in place. They 
sent me a replacement part for free. I judged their customer service to be 
above and beyond.

I wouldn't give up on them too fast.

Greg

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via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:17 PM
To: Mercedes
Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: [MBZ] OT Whirlpool warrant support

In January I bought a Whirlpool induction cooktop, and know it's got issues.  
Two of four burners are not working, display gives F47 code.

Prof. Google tells me the basic troubleshooting steps and then call for 
warranty service (done), but now Whirlpool tells me the serial number I have 
for my cooktop is wrong and so no warranty support for me until I get the right 
serial number.

WTH!?!  Using Whirlpools website instructions I confirmed that I'm looking in 
the right place at the right sticker, but the support dude I spoke with 
yesterday says the S/N should start with a letter, mine is all numbers.

I'm tempted to pull the suspect board(s) out and try re-soldering all the 
joints.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Pi Day!!!...(Related)

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I think of these things constantly.

Greg

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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:01 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
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Subject: [MBZ] Happy Pi Day!!!

Yup, it's that time again!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

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Well I guess the name Hissie fits..

Greg

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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:36 AM
To: Curt Raymond
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel; Rick Knoble; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

Give it an onomatopoetic pet name.  Mine would be "Hissie".

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Stereotypical ringing in the ears. I've had it as long as I can remember.
> Its worse if I eat really salty food or have high stress levels, 
> better if I do yoga every day and drink lots of water. Never goes away though.
> It doesn't really bother me, in fact I wonder if it would bother me if 
> it were gone since its been a constant companion...
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 14, 2018, 11:39:40 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel < 
> astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> What are your symptoms?
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 9:10 AM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
>
> Every night? Your body should be making melatonin...
>
> I read once that supposedly melatonin would help with tinitus, if it 
> does it doesn't help with mine any that I can tell...
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 13, 2018, 5:18:41 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via 
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>
> Interesting.  Maybe it's the melatonin 1 mg sublingual tablet I take 
> nearly every night!
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Did you lend it to Regina? ...and she drove it behind someone who tossed 
popcorn (popped or unpopped) out the window?...and it got sucked into the air 
intake?

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.

Greg 

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To: Mercedes Discussion List
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Subject: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:

Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over completely 
on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.

I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, (plugs 
out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..

Wait for it! ...

. ..

POPCORN!

Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the 
left bank.

The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The distributor was 
out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or possibly robbed shortly after 
the accident.

HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?

Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve.  The spring 
loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner covers the 
intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any popcorn there.  I will 
start to pull the stuff off the top of the engine tomorrow, to see if I find 
any other clues.

When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.

Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor that meeses 
can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?

The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be intact.  (in 
all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine
assembled.)

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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I can't think of a way the headphones could sample the "noise", much less 
generate an out-of-phase countering signal.

Greg

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Tinnitus

I wonder if something similar to noise-canceling headphones could work to 
generate anti-tinnitus sounds.  One would have to tune them to individual 
circumstances but the question is if the noise would cancel out whatever the 
nerves or brain are doing, or if it would just add to the overall sensation of 
more noise.

--FT


On 3/12/18 5:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Had it for some time, no doubt due to loud music and working around 
> industrial engines.  Pitch can change as can the intensity.  It’s a nuisance, 
> but not debilitating, fortunately.
>
> One of my former business partners had it so bad that it could lay him out.  
> I consider myself lucky.
>
> -D
>
>
>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:05 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Andrew says:
>>
>>> I recently noticed a persistent background >hissing noise that is 
>>> not ambient but exists >inside my head
>> Mine is the same frequency as the 18khz oscillator in old CRT televisions. 
>> Actually, it's a tritone, all around the same frequency. Sounds like a 
>> cricket chirp, except continuous.  I've had it for many decades.
>>
>> It never goes away. Ever.
>>
>> At least you're not hearing voices in your head...
>>
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Nice!

That sounds like a very good price for that T/C.

I have the very same in the Hawken model I built from a kit. It's a beautiful 
rifle, and the lockwork is of excellent materials and engineering. T/C makes 
some very good stuff.

Greg

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Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 6:39 PM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

Blast! Forgot to make the post plain text, for some reason the list and Yahoo 
don't get along unless I do.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4713/39622927395_a2e72a0d88_b.jpg







On Saturday, March 3, 2018, 9:22:50 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Fix your link - it’s got a run on.

Sounds cool.

-D


> On Mar 3, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Last weekend we went to "The Ancient Ones of Maine" gun show. Its mostly 
> focused on primitive or at least old timey guns. I had a bad time with my 
> modern in-line muzzle loader last fall during hunting season. Any snow or 
> rain that got anywhere near it would wet the powder and wet powder doesn't 
> work. I decided I'd invest in an old timey side-lock gun, my 16ga shotgun is 
> a side lock and I carried it through a rainy turkey season last year with no 
> wet powder so apparently I know how to make side lock guns stay dry.
> There were a bunch of good candidates at the show, I went in wanting a 54 
> caliber or larger. Theres no particular reason for that, the .45s I already 
> have would be adequate but go big or go home right?
> Finally found this: 
> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4713/39622927395_a2e72a0d88_b.jpgits a Thompson 
> Center Renegade, I paid $165. I don't think its been shot much, theres very 
> little powder staining on the stock and the bore is perfect. The Renegade is 
> in the half stock style popularized by the Hawken brothers in the 1820s or so 
> and commonly referred to with their name. TC made two similar models, the 
> Hawken and Renegade, the latter being more plain with iron hardware, little 
> engraving and no patch box.
> I really like it, the stock is fat and fits me well, it points good and has 
> good sights. I haven't shot it yet but I also scored several hundred 
> maxi-ball type bullets. This gun has a 1:48 twist rate which is fast enough 
> to stabilize a conical bullet but will still handle a round ball reasonably 
> well. The big bullets should do a number on deer and it we get a chance to 
> hunt moose again this would be my gun of choice.
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Another 250TD Manny

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Probably. The map in the CL ad shows a CA location, so it's not in Portland at 
all. Looks pretty nice though.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another 250TD Manny

Looks like the same car to me

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 26, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Nope. The one in Portland isn't the only one fs in the US.
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-Mercedes-Benz-E-Class/323101092427
> 
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Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM Re: OT a little truth for the albore crowd.

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You are labeled a "denier" to associate you with holocaust deniers and thus to 
label you as a nazi or nazi sympathizer. When this type of verbiage is used in 
lieu of an argument based on facts and logic, you can be sure that the user 
doesn't believe that facts and logic will carry their case.

That's what turns a discussion about current events into an exercise of (the 
lowest form of) politics.

Greg

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Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 1:27 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List; Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM Re: OT a little truth for the albore crowd.

I don't deny the climate is changing,I question who/what is causing it. Why is 
it okay to label me a denier and remove my right to skepticism?
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes wrote:   Dan, perhaps the climate deniers could 
take their show over to banned.

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:52 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> My apology to anyone I have not yet offended. I assure you is was 
> oversight on my part.
> ;))
>
> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Go trump.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Feb 24, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > All right kids, let’s either stop or reign it in.  Discussing 
> > > current
> > events as we’ve been doing (nicely) is just fine, however, when 
> > politics enter the fray it’s time to shut it down.
> > >
> > > Please play nicely as you had been or put a sock on it.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > List Mom/Martha/-D
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Bill Whittle makes sense

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Yup. I've been reading his stuff occasionally for many years. Smart guy.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT Bill Whittle makes sense

Andrew, do not click this link.  It will make your head explode.
https://www.billwhittle.com/mr-virtual-president/guns-virtual-state-union-2013 


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Re: [MBZ] Driver side tell light broken has red tape on it

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Pass. side headlight lens missing? Hole under trunk lid (lock punched out?). 
Two of the 8 cylinders missing.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] Driver side tell light broken has red tape on it

And what else do you notice?

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1998-mercedes-benz/6463670774.html

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting Oil Prices

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I thought they were half-chested, to avoid interference with the bowstring...or 
is that an urban legend?

Greg

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Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 11:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Interesting Oil Prices

Amazon AKA  large full chested muscular women of mythical re pore, who 
can out fight you, and live without the need of men.

On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 8:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Island of large women??
>
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 7:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Mobil 1 has been around $22 for the five quart jug for the last 
> > couple of months, matched exactly between Dead Sam and the island of large 
> > women.
> I
> > have an oil change coming up on the W210 wagon shortly, and needed
> another
> > jug to complete my needs.  The price went up to $25.47 for a five 
> > quart
> jug
> > in the last couple of days, again matched exactly between Dead Sam 
> > and
> the
> > island of large women.
> >
> > I wonder who made the change first?
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Air fryers now Sous Vide

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I first encountered sous vide done at a restaurant with a duck recipe. It was 
great! I have since experimented quite a bit, using a simple setup involving a 
cheap slow-cooker with a highly accurate temperature control device. It is 
especially good for chicken breast, cooking perfectly and producing always 
tender juicy results.

Using thickness, time, and temperature charts; meats can be pasteurized so they 
can be refrigerated for several weeks and reheated/seared later. Excellent for 
camping trips for instance.

Also really good for meats with lots of tough connective tissue. Low and slow 
can be 24 hrs. or better for brisket or pork shoulder. Something like a 
flatiron steak can be made tender but still rare. You have to be careful not to 
make it too tender!

Yes, browning is necessary but can be done later with a quick sear on a cast 
iron or steel pan, or with a torch.

Delve into food science a bit.

Greg

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Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 8:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Air fryers

Alex has a pretty good system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h_y3svpNiw
-Curt
 

On Friday, February 2, 2018, 6:26:58 AM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Ewww, the boiling thing is disgusting.  Cooking without browning. Yuck.

Here’s an interesting review:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/michelleno/philips-airfryer-review?utm_term=.lhGPKZm8z#.rvoDEj6za

-D



> On Feb 1, 2018, at 10:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Stay focused on air fryers please.  Sous vide is a plastic abomination.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:40 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sounds like frog talk to me.  Probably some kind of frog glop.
>> 
>> Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>>> February 1, 2018 at 7:55 PM
>>> 
>>> Do any of you cultivated gourmet cooks know sous vide?
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sous-vide
>>> tin.man
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - SKS - Which is the Best?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

A web search for 7.62 X 39 shows 1,000 rounds goes for $200-225. Walmart says 
they carry some. Shouldn't be a problem and it's not very expensive.

Greg

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Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 12:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - SKS - Which is the Best?

How difficult is it to find ammo for these?  Or is it?

-D


> On Jan 27, 2018, at 2:57 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mine (a Chinese Norinco) has a heavily chromed bore and uses detachable AK 
> mags. Certainly not sub-MOA capable, but "spray and pray" is a bit unfair.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey 
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 7:30 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Jim Cathey
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - SKS - Which is the Best?
> 
> At one point they were about $100 each.  The Chinese model (some of them, at 
> least) have chromed bores.
> Perhaps a practical choice for a workhorse.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - SKS - Which is the Best?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Mine (a Chinese Norinco) has a heavily chromed bore and uses detachable AK 
mags. Certainly not sub-MOA capable, but "spray and pray" is a bit unfair.

Greg

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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 7:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - SKS - Which is the Best?

At one point they were about $100 each.  The Chinese model (some of them, at 
least) have chromed bores.
Perhaps a practical choice for a workhorse.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT Revolver vs. Semi-Auto

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

IME the grip shape of a revolver is more rounded (and more conducive to a 
consistent grip) than the slab sides of a semi-auto pistol grip. A more 
consistent grip results in better groups.

Greg

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Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 10:44 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Rick Knoble
Subject: [MBZ] OT Revolver vs. Semi-Auto

Interesting observation and wondering if my experiences are exclusive. When I 
shoot with a revolver I have a very tight pattern, good aim, etc. Using a semi 
auto pistol, I do okay, but not nearly as tight a grouping as with revolvers. 
Comments?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Hard to give advice

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I find citric acid in the bulk bins at the local produce store. It's pretty 
cheap there too.

Greg

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Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 7:03 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Hard to give advice

I was playing with the coolant in Allen.  Thermostat seems to have failed open, 
so it is as good a time as any to try to degrease and get the scale out of the 
engine.  

I could find only some tiny jars of citric acid, so am using some blue jug 
descale thing that needs to live in the car for a few hours of road time.  I 
guess I can do that this week.  I had flushed the old (which looked really 
good) Orange antifreeze.  Must have been Zerex, but I did not know just how 
long it had been in, and the car has been mine for a year.

So, I have emptied, flushed to clear water, and am getting ready to put in the 
descaling goop, when a german sounding woman came over to tell me how she liked 
seeing Polei, and that I must surely be german, if I have that car.  I am not, 
but we chatted on about things and she inquired as to my opinion regarding 
replacing her 2002 C class with another benz.  I was not really supportive, 
based on just how much of a pig the W220 was.

She purchased her car new, and it spent the first year racking up almost $8k of 
service work, but has been fairly good over the past 15 years, with two other 
expensive failures.  I pointed her toward oriental cars.  She asked after BMW, 
which I could not fault, other than they are just as complex, expensive, and 
maybe no better than the C class for initial quality.

The best I could say was to avoid the local dealer, and try one about 20 miles 
away, as the newer shop might not be run by scum, the way the SEA dealer is.  
It could be that the new C is better than the millennial S.

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - 
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Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I bought my '97 4WD crew cab F250HD 7.3 P/S in '06 and paid about 10-11K for 
it. It had 104K mi. on it at the time. It will pull or carry pretty much 
anything I need, gets 15-17 mpg unless towing something heavy like my 6 ton 5th 
wheel. Why anyone would pay 50-60K for fru-fru is beyond me!

Greg

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McLain via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 11:21 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Major disappointment

The  $50,000 to $60,000 peekups with all the "luxury" trim/interior such 
as the frod "platinum" "limited" "SVT Raptor" and "King Ranch"   are 
what I classify as wussywagons.   They are not meant for work, but to 
show off the owners wealth or to stroke the owners ego, or to satisfy the wife 
while doing one of the former..  The "platinum" is definitely trimmed to sell 
to the female market.  To be fair, pretty much all cars, MB included are 
targeted at the female market.  There may be some argument about the king 
ranch, but with a price tag over $50,000, leather steering wheel cover, heated 
seats, etc, it definitely has options that fall into the wussy category.  Each 
of these would be competing with a MB/nissan pickup.

I am not picking on frod, because GM, dodge, toada and nissan all offer 
products with similar fru-fru.  I am more familiar with their trim levels.

When you compare the $50k-60k wagens to the $27k ford F150 XL, can you honestly 
tell me a "limited or "platinum" is worth twice as much 
money?   Will they get twice as much MPG?  Will they last twice as 
long?  Will they carry twice as much?  Do they have some combination of the 3 
that justifies being worth twice as much?

The gummit meddling in the vehicle market has driven people away from cars and 
into peekups.  The carmakers are not stupid.  they are just capitalizing on the 
weaknesses of people and what their gummit has taxed/regulated them into.

> Randy Bennell via Mercedes  January 19, 
> 2018 at 10:40 AM
>
>
> What would you consider to not be a wussywagon? A Unimog?
> I cannot see myself doing long trips at highway speeds in one of those.
>
>
> I suggest that the 4WD 1/2 ton crew cab pickups are the best thing 
> since sliced bread. Basically, a big sedan with a huge trunk. Haul 
> people and/or loads of lumber etc and pull a trailer behind too if 
> need be. The biggest disadvantage is parking them.
>
> I don't need 3/4 ton capacity so not much point in hauling the extra 
> weight around. Would consider a diesel if I needed it and could 
> justify it but I cannot.
>
> RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: 737 follies

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I will NEVER fly Royal Air Maroc (and some other airlines)!

It seems (even to one as inexperienced as me) obvious that the first priority 
is to keep the bird in the air! Keep it flying until you can safely land.

Do airline pilots receive training/evaluation for handling high stress 
situations? 

Greg

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Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 5:06 PM
To: Mercedes List
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Subject: [MBZ] OT: 737 follies

https://fearoflanding.com/accidents/accident-reports/a-unique-occurrence-turning-an-incident-into-a-crisis/

21:46:14 The aircraft overflies Haarlem at an altitude of 348 feet with an 
indicated airspeed of 165.5 knots.

Their route takes them straight past a 479-foot tower which was located on the 
outskirts of Haarlem. They then proceed towards Amsterdam’s western harbour 
area, flying near obstacles up to 587 feet. They are flying 200' below the 
tallest buildings in their area.


When the flight crew was asked if they received training for incidents like 
this they replied that an incident like this could not be trained and for that 
reason they did not receive such training.

The investigation revealed that the relevant Atlas Blue and Royal Air Maroc 
manuals contained all information needed for situations just like this serious 
incident. The training manuals contained general guidance needed to address the 
incident in a structured manner and the QRH and FCOM contained all relevant 
procedures that would have been needed to address the actual damage.

Despite this the flight crew was convinced that they had encountered a 
unique occurrence.

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[MBZ] Costco Double Attaboy

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I spotted this item at Costco last week:

 

https://www.amazon.com/ProSensor-Professional-Finder-Built-Bubble/dp/B0195K8OT4/ref=sr_1_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1515459155&sr=1-3&keywords=prosensor+710%2B+professional+stud+finder

 

and coincidentally I helped my son on Saturday to install some Ethernet wall 
plates to go through a couple of walls, needing a stud finder to find the right 
location to cut through. I got the picture that he could really use a 
studfinder, and I lusted after the really nice one at Costco, for about HALF of 
the Amazon price ($29.99 vs. $54.95)!

 

So as I was looking for a parking spot in the Costco lot, a guy in a Costco 
jacket was running after me. I rolled my window down, and he told me to drive 
over to the tire area so he could air up my low tire he had spotted. When I 
did, I saw a nail head in the center of the tread. He said it would take a 
while to repair, and they would call my cell when it was ready.

 

I went into the store, found my stud finder, then browsed their books. I found 
a copy of a Mitch Rapp novel I have on my Kindle that I had been planning to 
read. I found a nice leather recliner and got a good start on the book before 
they called.

 

So, attaboy for taking the trouble to chase me down, attaboy for having a nice 
product at a much lower price than Amazon.

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mesh WiFi Networks

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

The difference between extenders and mesh is that with mesh you (theoretically) 
do not lose bandwidth. The mesh system uses an additional 5 GHz band to 
communicate between the base unit and any satellites.

Greg

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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 5:04 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: OK Don
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mesh WiFi Networks

I have a "range extender" from Netgear that I bought to share our ISP with my 
neighbor in trade for services (annual inspections). He decided to get his own 
service, so I now have the extender in the detached garage providing WiFi for 
the surveillance camera that watches the bird feeder. It works great and was 
simple to setup. I don't know that it qualifies as a mesh network, but it does 
provide solid WiFi at a distance.

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 6:40 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have the Orbi system with one satellite (so 2 units). It works well 
> in my 2700 sq. ft. home with 6 levels. I needed it because I got the 
> Ring doorbell and my old router would sometimes fail to connect the 
> doorbell requiring setting it up again. Also, the house is in a low 
> spot adjacent to the creek, so cell coverage is very poor without 
> wifi. Never had that problem since. I got a substantial discount from Amazon 
> warehouse deals.
> The "defects" were some smudges on the surfaces which wiped off 
> completely with a damp cloth.
>
> Costco recently had a 3 unit system at a typical Costco price, IDK if 
> they still offer that.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
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> Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 4:16 PM
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> Subject: [MBZ] OT - Mesh WiFi Networks
>
> Anyone here done a mesh wifi network in their house with an Eero or 
> similar hardware?
>
> I’m giving it some thought as a replacement for the dual band wifi I 
> currently run that just barely covers the whole house.
>
> -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mesh WiFi Networks

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have the Orbi system with one satellite (so 2 units). It works well in my 
2700 sq. ft. home with 6 levels. I needed it because I got the Ring doorbell 
and my old router would sometimes fail to connect the doorbell requiring 
setting it up again. Also, the house is in a low spot adjacent to the creek, so 
cell coverage is very poor without wifi. Never had that problem since. I got a 
substantial discount from Amazon warehouse deals. The "defects" were some 
smudges on the surfaces which wiped off completely with a damp cloth.

Costco recently had a 3 unit system at a typical Costco price, IDK if they 
still offer that.

Greg

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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 4:16 PM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Mesh WiFi Networks

Anyone here done a mesh wifi network in their house with an Eero or similar 
hardware?

I’m giving it some thought as a replacement for the dual band wifi I currently 
run that just barely covers the whole house.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Frost damage

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

LMAO!

Figuratively, not literally

Greg

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Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2018 3:21 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: WILTON
Subject: [MBZ] Frost damage

That reminds me:

FROZEN  FANNY

During the winter of 1973-74, when I was on a B-52H combat crew at 
Kincheloe AFB, MI, the co-pilot and I attended a dinner party with our wives at 
the Officers Club one evening while on alert.  Because I was going to be inside 
the club building for three or four hours, I had removed my thermal underwear, 
and was wearing only my cotton under shorts, T-shirt, Nomex flight suit, and 
street shoes and socks.  While traveling from the alert facility to the club 
and back, I also wore a flight parka with a hood (waist-length heavy coat) and 
gloves.  As usual, we had additional cold weather clothing on the aircraft we 
could don if we were suddenly called upon to fly during this time.  On this 
particular day, as on many days in the Michigan Upper Peninsula, it had snowed 
hard all day.
Arriving back at the alert facility after the party, our crew-cab truck got 
stuck in deep snow near our parking space, and as we tried to free the vehicle, 
one of the snow chains came off a rear wheel.  Using snow shovels, the co-pilot 
and I worked for several minutes to remove snow from beneath the vehicle and 
reinstall the chain.
After we had finally parked the vehicle in the appropriate space, we went 
inside the building, where a movie was playing in the briefing room.  I stepped 
inside the briefing room, stood and watched the screen for a couple of minutes, 
then took a seat on the front row to watch the rest of the movie.  As I sat 
down, though, I suddenly felt significant pain in the buttocks area - I had 
frozen my buttocks!
While I shoveled snow and reinstalled the chain, my thin flightsuit and 
under shorts were pulled tightly across my buttocks, which were elevated to the 
full fury of the blizzard as I bent to the task.  The skin on my buttocks came 
off like sunburn, and the area itched slightly for years.  So, you see, I 
literally froze my fanny off for Uncle Sam, and no, I did not claim a Purple 
Heart for it.  Oh, by the way, I never stood around scratching the itch, either 
- I simply endured it.

Wilton 


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Re: [MBZ] Test

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Yes, Comcast.

Greg

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Sent: Monday, January 01, 2018 11:42 AM
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Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Test

Greg,

Was this from the comcast.net account?

I just checked the subscription information and you’re showing good here.

-D


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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Had a bunch of bounces yesterday "permanent failure".
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[MBZ] Test

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Had a bunch of bounces yesterday "permanent failure".

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] V. Cool '61 Land Rover on BAT

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

IME the Lucas systems were most problematic in cold, wet weather. Perhaps the 
climate in Fiji was more Lucas-friendly.

Greg

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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 6:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] V. Cool '61 Land Rover on BAT

I don't recall any serious electrical problems with the 1960's vintage Land 
Rovers that I drove around. Maybe they predated Lucas?

On Dec 27, 2017 10:43 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
wrote:

> Ah yes, the Prince of Darkness!   I had one British POS for about 3 months
> and in that time the prince brought the darkness often!
>
> Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>> December 27, 2017 at 6:39 PM
>> I had,a 73 series III and the Lucas electrics killed me for repairs,
>>
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

That sounds like the experience I had with my '84 300D when the relay failed. 
If the engine has decent compression it should start ok with one bad GP. The 
GPs are easy to test with an ohmmeter.

Greg

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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 1:28 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

On my W123 300TD, I am having a hard time getting it started when the 
temperature dips below 20 F despite the car being plugged into the block 
heater.  It takes 2 minutes of multiple glows and attempts before I can get it 
fired up. Once I get it started the engine runs as if it were preheated.

Question: Does this sound like a glow plug issue?  Do the plugs wear out or 
simply fail?  If one is dead will the other 4 start the car, albeit laboriously?

Happy 2018 to all,

Andrew
1983 300TD
362 K
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[MBZ] Bruce Wayne's Benz

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

http://gtspirit.com/2017/10/08/batman-drive-mercedes-benz-vision-gt-justice-league-movie/

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] Christmas presents, now Workbench

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

It appears the newer ones are better than what I have seen described in the 
reviews of the older ones. There are a few caveats WRT the drawer spacing and 
the quality of the screws. If any of you decide to get one I'll be happy to 
share my experiences on minor issues. The bottom line is that I'm very 
satisfied.

Greg

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Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 3:27 PM
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Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Christmas presents

I've looked at those benches in the past. At first I didn't think much of them 
but last time I was at HF I happened to look at one and it seemed much sturdier 
than the ones I'd seen in the past. Thinking I might need one...
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, December 27, 2017, 5:10:38 PM EST, Greg Fiorentino via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 Woodworking workbench (kind of a kit) from Harbor Freight. Will be my 
all-purpose workbench with removable vises in addition to the built-in tail 
vise.

Some amazing German chocolate cookies from my DIL. 

Greg

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Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 12:42 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: tyee165
Subject: [MBZ] Christmas presents

What did Santa bring y'all?


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Re: [MBZ] Christmas presents

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Woodworking workbench (kind of a kit) from Harbor Freight. Will be my 
all-purpose workbench with removable vises in addition to the built-in tail 
vise.

Some amazing German chocolate cookies from my DIL. 

Greg

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Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 12:42 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Christmas presents

What did Santa bring y'all?


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[MBZ] Merry Christmas!

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

To my list friends!

 

Greg, seeing our first snow for a surprise White Christmas in the PNW

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Re: [MBZ] Scam-O-Rama

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

It would seem that the "movers" are surely in on the scam. Perhaps the local 
cops would be interested in apprehending them. Postal Inspectors for sure is a 
good idea too. Hopefully you did not handle the check with bare hands. It would 
be nice to put these scammers where they belong.

Greg

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Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 12:51 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Scam-O-Rama

OK, folks, I’ve got a classic mail fraud/bank scam going and I want to know how 
you think I should proceed.  No guarantees, but I’ll be looking forward to some 
creative responses.  Here’s the setup:

I have a Casio electronic piano for sale on Craigslist for $449.00.

I got an email from a potential buyer named “Emma”.  Emma wanted to buy my 
piano for her fiancé, but she’s not going to be in town until the end of the 
month.  She said she would send me a check for the piano and some additional 
money to give to the movers who would come and collect it for her.

I gave her my street address and name.

Today a cashier’s check drawn on Comerica Bank for $1600.00 showed up in a 
Priority mail Express envelope.

I called Comerica to verify the authenticity of the check.  It’s bogus.  The 
check was drawn on a Comerica branch in San Jose, CA and dated for the 20th.

The Priority Express envelope was mailed from Mesa, AZ.

I have not contacted “Emma” about the check yet, however, if I go silent I 
suspect she’s going to reach out to me.  My first thought it to take this to 
the USPS and let them deal with it, as Postal Inspectors can always use 
something to do. Then again, as this is the classic “I’ll give you extra money 
you can give to someone else” ploy I wonder if I should string her along 
somehow…

?

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Cell Phones can be dangerous

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

According to the article it was a case of premature ejectulation. Through the 
sunroof.

Greg

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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 8:10 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Mitch Haley
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cell Phones can be dangerous


How to kill yourself in a car, in the most embarrassing fashion imaginable:
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2016/01/27/man-dies-crash-watching-movie/79391864/

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Re: [MBZ] Jon's 500E Lemons Car # Road Atlanta

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Impressive! And all with the speedometer pegged! (at zero)

Greg

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Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 4:19 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Jon's 500E Lemons Car # Road Atlanta

Fun to watch him lap people….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUt_GUZA99Y&feature=youtu.be

-D



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Amazon slow for everybody?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Good strategies!

Another one that has occasionally worked for me is to go to the manufacturer's 
or vendor's (that Amazon is reselling) website directly. Sometimes you will 
find a better deal that way, especially of you also do a search for a discount 
code.

Greg

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Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 6:49 AM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Amazon slow for everybody?

It’s like any online venue - you have to shop smart.  A good example:

I wanted a bench mat with a Walther PPQ exploded view on it, a common pistol 
sort of thing that’s handy to have for a number of reasons.  Here’s how they 
priced it:

Prime:  $11.00

Other sellers: $7.00 and up

In most cases, the “other sellers” are adding shipping costs on top of their 
prices, making Prime a better deal since shipping is “free”.  In this case, a 
third party seller had the mat for around $8.00 with free shipping.  Sure, it 
came First Class or some other slow boat method, but I wasn’t in a hurry.

Net gain over the river of big women?  About $3.00.  Add to that the seller was 
from out of state, so I also dodged the state sales tax on the mat as well, so 
I really did better than just the difference.

A lot of people never drill down into the “other sellers” sections and see the 
better deals.  Another place you can make out well is their “warehouse deals”.  
These are the scratch and dent/returns sort of things they offer.  I’ve done 
well on two things there recently:

$130 metal gun cabinet - $72.00 on a warehouse deal.  Had “less than 10% 
damage”.  It had a ding on the back of the cabinet that I knocked out with a 
deadblow hammer and a two by four.  Heck, it was on the back - I’ll never see 
it!

$12.00 pop-up sprinkler head.  Got a brand new one from their warehouse deals 
for $3.00 shipped. Sprinkles as well or better than the new one.

-D



> On Dec 13, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> THat is a good idea, but why bother?   Buy it elsewhere.  The river of big 
> women has no bargains that I see.  Most of what I look at is higher than 
> retail  plus shipping from other places, or  higher than the local 
> hardware/lumber/FLAPS store with tax.
> 
>> Mitch Haley via Mercedes  December 13, 
>> 2017 at 6:10 AM
>> 
>> Depends on where it is. If they've got some in Indiana or Kentucky and they 
>> don't use multiple carriers, it probably would. But if they weren't even 
>> going to try to ship it until the 12th or 13th, delivery on the 12th was 
>> never a possibility.
>> 
>> When I requested the cancel, they said 'we're processing it right now, but 
>> we'll try to stop it', and then I got an email confirming it was canceled.
>> 
>> I just don't like the idea of 'you didn't pay extra for speedy service, so 
>> we'll deliberately sit on it for a week'.
>> In the past, Free Super Saver Shipping meant 'we'll get it out tonight or 
>> tomorrow, ship it via the cheapest carrier, and you get it when you get it, 
>> almost always within a week'. I was happy with that system.
>> 
>> Next month, after everything settles down from the holidays, I'll place an 
>> order Monday morning for a bunch of stuff that I can shelve or do without 
>> for a while, like printer ink, automotive filters, tools I'd like to have 
>> but don't immediately need...and if they ship it, fine. If they don't, I'll 
>> cancel it all on Friday evening. Maybe that'll help them get the message.
>> 
>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Yes, lower recoil than metal frame of the same weight, because the polymer 
seems to absorb some of the recoil. Of course you are correct that more weight 
reduces felt recoil. The reliability is not per se the result of using polymer, 
but overall modern engineering and construction.

Greg 

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don via 
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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 4:45 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: OK Don
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

Wait, the polymer has higher reliability and lower recoil???  I'd expect more 
wear and lower mass = more recoil.
I've never held a polymer gun, much less fired one, though I did love the
1911 that I got to fire years ago.

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I agree that the M1911 is a beautiful bit of engineering and a rugged 
> beast. (I sure should have bought that Singer M1911 that a buddy tried 
> to sell me for $100 back in the day.) Wonderful to take to the range 
> for a bit of fun. But carrying it on your hip all day every day will 
> make you love plastic for its reliability and lighter weight. My H&K 
> USP Compact is just as powerful in .40 S&W and more pleasant to 
> actually carry. Polymer cuts recoil a bit too.
>
> Is the Hogue wood? My experience with Pachmayr rubber grips has been 
> very good. I have some on a T/C Contender pistol that really tame the 
> recoil, as well as weld to the hand! Nice when you're approaching 
> rifle ballistics in a pistol.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan 
> Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 2:34 PM
> To: Mercedes List
> Cc: Dan Penoff
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today
>
> Sorry.
>
> Para Ordnance 1911 Expert Stainless .45 ACP.
>
> My Walther PPQ is a 9mm.  Seems pretty tame compared to the 1911 .45 ACP.
> Amazing to me that it’s such a difference.  I love shooting the 1911.  
> It seems so much more of a firearm than the polymer framed pistols.  A 
> “Man’s Pistol”, if you know what I mean.
>
> I asked Santa for a Hogue wrap-around grip for it.  That will make it 
> even better.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Dec 10, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dan sez:
> >
> >> ‎Working on getting 250 rounds through >my new 1911
> >
> > 9mm, or. 45 ACP?
> > Brand of pistol...? Kimber?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I agree that the M1911 is a beautiful bit of engineering and a rugged beast. (I 
sure should have bought that Singer M1911 that a buddy tried to sell me for 
$100 back in the day.) Wonderful to take to the range for a bit of fun. But 
carrying it on your hip all day every day will make you love plastic for its 
reliability and lighter weight. My H&K USP Compact is just as powerful in .40 
S&W and more pleasant to actually carry. Polymer cuts recoil a bit too.

Is the Hogue wood? My experience with Pachmayr rubber grips has been very good. 
I have some on a T/C Contender pistol that really tame the recoil, as well as 
weld to the hand! Nice when you're approaching rifle ballistics in a pistol.

Greg 

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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 2:34 PM
To: Mercedes List
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

Sorry.

Para Ordnance 1911 Expert Stainless .45 ACP.

My Walther PPQ is a 9mm.  Seems pretty tame compared to the 1911 .45 ACP.  
Amazing to me that it’s such a difference.  I love shooting the 1911.  It seems 
so much more of a firearm than the polymer framed pistols.  A “Man’s Pistol”, 
if you know what I mean.

I asked Santa for a Hogue wrap-around grip for it.  That will make it even 
better.

-D


> On Dec 10, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan sez:
> 
>> ‎Working on getting 250 rounds through >my new 1911
> 
> 9mm, or. 45 ACP? 
> Brand of pistol...? Kimber?
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Rivnut Tool, was license plate bracket nut

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I was wondering if brass or bronze washers would reduce the friction much 
better than steel-on-steel, especially with some nice lube. I could cut some 
from stock on hand on the lathe pretty quick, and buy nothing at all.

Greg

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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 3:03 PM
To: Mercedes List
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rivnut Tool, was license plate bracket nut

Nice.

In his comments he says he eliminated the thrust bearing as it kept failing.  
Says the washers do just fine.

-D


> On Dec 10, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a need for an 8 mm rivnut to repair a high-end "workmate" type device 
> and stumbled upon this:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwSzoDyjWA8
> 
> Surprisingly, the little thrust bearing costs less than $5 from Mr. Bezos. 
> That's the only piece I need to purchase. I doubt any commercial tool could 
> do this any slicker!
> 
> Greg
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Rivnut Tool, was license plate bracket nut

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have a need for an 8 mm rivnut to repair a high-end "workmate" type device 
and stumbled upon this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwSzoDyjWA8

Surprisingly, the little thrust bearing costs less than $5 from Mr. Bezos. 
That's the only piece I need to purchase. I doubt any commercial tool could do 
this any slicker!

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don via 
Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 4:44 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: OK Don
Subject: Re: [MBZ] license plate bracket nut

I have one of the rivnut tools, but only SAE/AN mandrels. I used a lond machine 
screw of the proper size for the rivnut, and turned down one end (after 
removing the head) with a file in a drill press till is would fit a pop-rivet 
gun until I got it stuck in the gun and it would not come out.
That's when I bought the real tool (since I have over a 100 rivnuts in the 
Tailwind now . . .

On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> After some research it turns out these are called rivnuts, and there 
> is threaded rivet gun you use to install them I guess like normal 
> rivets.  I need to locate one of these.  The rivnuts are $6 each dealer 
> retail price.
>
>
>
> On 12/9/2017 3:44 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> On December 9, 2017 at 4:30 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> How do you replace what they call the license plate bracket nut?
>>>
>> I've got some spinning nuts in my W140.
>> If I can get the last screw out, your JB welded plate may have given 
>> me an idea about re-securing the loose nuts that are already there.
>> If I can secure them, I can chase them out with a tap and lots of 
>> cutting oil and re-use them.
>>
>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Amazon slow for everybody?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Some deliveries are somewhat slow even with prime. It might be the time of 
year, lots of online Christmas shopping going on now. OTOH, I wouldn't put it 
past them to "encourage" people to spend more by joining prime! It depends on 
what their cost-benefit algorithms say.

Greg

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Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 2:16 PM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Mitch Haley
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Is Amazon slow for everybody?

About a month ago, I ordered a bunch of stuff from Amazon. When I started to 
check out, it wanted me to 'try Prime'. I hit the OK button thinking it was a 
free trial. It wasn't. 
I realized my mistake and canceled the Prime subscription, and made my order 
with free super saver shipping. That was on a Monday. They started shipping 
stuff the next Monday. 
I assumed they were punishing me for the Prime cancellation. 
This Wednesday, I ordered a couple of things. Free shipping. 
It's Saturday and they haven't shipped yet. 

Stuff from Amazon or fulfilled by Amazon always used to ship in a day or two. 
Are they now deliberately holding shipments for a week if you don't pay for 
better service?

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] Oregon Admits To Violating The Constitutional Rights Of Red-Light Camera Critic Who Was Fined $500

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I also have no tolerance for red light runners, nor for bureaucrats who misuse 
their power to silence legitimate criticism. Whoever made the decision to fine 
this engineer needs to be encouraged to find a new job, pour encourager les 
autres.

Greg

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To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oregon Admits To Violating The Constitutional Rights Of 
Red-Light Camera Critic Who Was Fined $500

I got no tolerance for red light runners.  Speed cameras are another matter.  I 
collect these like beanie babies.

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 1:28 AM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Is the 1st. amendment valid in Oregon?
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of 
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 12:56 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Floyd Thursby
> Subject: [MBZ] Oregon Admits To Violating The Constitutional Rights Of 
> Red-Light Camera Critic Who Was Fined $500
>
> https://jalopnik.com/oregon-admits-violating-the-
> constitutional-rights-of-re-1821086560
>
> Mercedes content:  My son got a red light cam ticket while driving his 
> 300SD
>
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Oregon Admits To Violating The Constitutional Rights Of Red-Light Camera Critic Who Was Fined $500

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Is the 1st. amendment valid in Oregon?

Greg

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Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 12:56 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: [MBZ] Oregon Admits To Violating The Constitutional Rights Of 
Red-Light Camera Critic Who Was Fined $500

https://jalopnik.com/oregon-admits-violating-the-constitutional-rights-of-re-1821086560

Mercedes content:  My son got a red light cam ticket while driving his 300SD

--FT


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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

LEO training and qualification varies a lot. My requirements were quarterly 
qualification with a reasonable level of difficulty, with some units receiving 
"practice ammo". IIRC NYPD was annual, and little in the way of resources 
provided. I recall qualifying at a range when NYPD were transitioning from 
revolvers to pistols. I was watching them during a break, and they were doing a 
string involving a reload. It took them FOREVER, much longer than it took me to 
reload a revolver. Unless they shot on their own time their skill level would 
have been...not too good.

Greg

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Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 2:19 PM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

Everyone at mine had fired a gun, but they did ask, which was a little 
disconcerting to me.  What I did find mildly humorous was that the guy sitting 
next to me, who was a fairly new corrections officer, had to be shown proper 
hold and stance.  Not sure what kind of training these people get, but from 
what I saw I wasn’t impressed.  Looked like he had been taught the Weaver 
stance, which I thought was outdated and out of favor compared to the isosceles 
stance.

I was always taught that in the case of personal protection the Weaver stance 
was a bad thing, as it made the shot from a perp a line through both lungs and 
the heart (center of mass.)

-D


> On Dec 3, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't know about that, but when I did my CWP class there was a young woman 
> there who at the live fire part had to be 1) shown a gun, 2) shown how it 
> worked, and 3) shown how to use it.
> 
> That all was a bit concerning, but one hoped if she did get her permit and 
> bought a weapon she would take some instruction on the thing.
> 
> --FT
> 


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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I seem to recall that there was a change within the last decade to allow 
firearms to LPRs. I have a friend who is Canadian,( a retired design engineer 
for Freightliner...MB content!) who has a technical interest in the M1911 
pistol. I recall telling him of a change which would allow him to purchase one.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott 
Ritchey via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 7:11 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Cc: Scott Ritchey
Subject: Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

I assume a person could take the concealed carry class even if not qualified 
for a CCL/P.  Here (NC) one must take and pass the concealed carry class as a 
prerequisite to even apply for the CCP.  
I was always understood that 2A applied only to citizens.  But I reviewed the 
100 citizenship test questions recently and they implied 2A applies to all US 
persons irrespective of citizenship.  The new (2016) ATF 4473 implies US 
citizenship is not mandatory; I think it was mandatory on the old form.  Maybe 
an Obama administration change.  So I'm unsure.
Scott

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> Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 3:55 PM
> To: Mercedes List 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] no Ingles
> 
> Let’s defer to the subject and posit on this situation, as I’m curious 
> as to the feelings of the group as a whole:
> 
> I took my concealed weapon permit class today, which is a requirement 
> in Florida to obtain a concealed carry license. In the class of five 
> people there was a person of foreign origin who did not have a clear 
> command of the English language.  As a result of this they had a 
> family member present to translate for them.
> 
> They passed the test, both written and practical (firearm handling/firing).
> 
> Because they did not have a command of English and it was clearly not 
> their first language, should they have been allowed to participate, 
> and ultimately obtain their concealed carry license?
> 
> Discuss, please.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles, some details

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

1. Apparently the prosecution conducted some forensic analysis on the recovered 
bullet as well as the pier concrete, and found evidence that the bullet that 
killed Kate had indeed ricocheted off the pier.

2. The weapon was a Sig P239, which is available in several calibers and 3 
flavors: DA/SA, DAO, and "DAK trigger system developed for law enforcement" I 
believe the DAK Sig is the one my son owns, a twin for his USCG duty weapon. It 
has a 6.5 lb. long trigger pull, hardly a hair-trigger which could be readily 
discharged by accident.

3. It is likely that as a federal LEO, the agent had authorization to carry 
either his issued duty weapon or a personally owned firearm. I have had 6 
different personally owned handguns over the years with written authorizations 
for on and off duty carry. I am sure none would have been allowed with a 
lighter than original trigger pull. The last was a DAO H&K. In recent decades 
the authorized weapons went to DA only to decrease the possibility of 
accidental discharge and subsequent liability. Thanks lawyers!

Greg

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Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 12:18 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: G Mann
Subject: Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

Interesting posit. Just where did you find this tidbit of fact. Since the 
Defense Lawyer made the claim "the gun had a hair trigger and he didn't intend 
to shoot her", but I find no information about a ricochet shot as being the 
killing wound.
Since the weapon was stolen from a police car, the likely owner was a 
policeman, No LEO's carry weapons with "hair triggers" because if there is a 
"shots fired" incident, the first claim by opposing lawyer representing the 
deceased criminal would be the cop used a weapon "reworked" to establish the 
cop is a "premeditated killer"... so NO police department armorer will set a 
trigger at less than 3 lb pull..

I do however find first person evidence by the young woman's' family members. 
who were with her at the murder, who stated the "alleged killer"
walked up to her and shot her, point blank.

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> His shot ricocheted off a pier so he acted recklessly but didn't 
> intend to shoot her.
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > no
> >
> > This scumbag (the criminal, not the judge) is a career criminal.
> >
> > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> >> December 1, 2017 at 10:24 AM
> >> Sort of like deranged American-born males going on a rampage, 
> >> shooting multiple victims?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

AG Sessions has stated that DOJ is considering what charges he is eligible for, 
and wants to seek the maximum penalties for such charges. As someone who has 
reentered several times after deportation, he has violated 8 U.S. Code § 1326, 
and is eligible for anywhere from 2-20 years per count, depending on what class 
of crimes were committed for which he was deported.

After serving his back-to-back sentences, he would again be deported (if he 
were still alive). Good enough.

Greg

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McLain via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 12:45 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curley McLain
Subject: Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

I can think of other consequences he should get, rather than spending 40 years 
at tax payer expense.  I'm thinking cutting off certain body parts a quarter of 
an inch at a time with no anesthetic, once a week until there is nothing left.  
Then after that, make him suffer.

> G Mann via Mercedes  December 2, 2017 at 
> 12:49 PM The Perp has an outstanding felony warrant in Texas for 
> violation of deportation 4 times, plus other add on criminal charges 
> for crimes committed in Texas. Texas has now issued "arrest and detain 
> order" for his delivery and prosecution in Texas.
>
> The violation of deportation counts each carry a 10 year sentence to 
> be served consecutively, not "concurrently" which would mean 40 yrs in 
> prison just on those counts. Additional charges are for "supervised 
> release violation [criminal parol]", in the US District Court for 
> Western District of Texas, and other charges pending.
>
> The Federal Court unsealed their warrant immediately upon completion 
> of the case in California.
>

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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

If they are US citizens or Lawful Permanent Residents (LPRs) they are eligible 
to purchase and possess firearms unless otherwise disqualified. I have some 
concerns if their "translator" actually may have answered the questions on the 
written test. There can be US citizens who do not speak any English, for 
example persons born in Puerto Rico, born in the US but raised elsewhere, or a 
naturalized citizen over a certain age who is exempt from the language 
requirement.

Language ability per se should not be a bar to a license

Greg 

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 12:55 PM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

Let’s defer to the subject and posit on this situation, as I’m curious as to 
the feelings of the group as a whole:

I took my concealed weapon permit class today, which is a requirement in 
Florida to obtain a concealed carry license. In the class of five people there 
was a person of foreign origin who did not have a clear command of the English 
language.  As a result of this they had a family member present to translate 
for them.

They passed the test, both written and practical (firearm handling/firing).

Because they did not have a command of English and it was clearly not their 
first language, should they have been allowed to participate, and ultimately 
obtain their concealed carry license?

Discuss, please.

-D
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[MBZ] C230 Kompressor

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

All:

 

DIL is looking at a C230 in HNL:

 

https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/cto/d/must-go-mercedez-car/6388080974.html

 

Opinions? Thoughts?

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] The kiss of death

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Yes, but their limeade is good.

Greg 

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 1:07 PM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The kiss of death

I thought Sonic was a crappy low end drive in restaurant?

You need to buy her a used Ford Escape or Focus.  Short of wrecking it, those 
things are tough to kill.  Granted, she’s very good at what she does, but there 
comes a point where her skills have got to be diminished somehow?

-D


> On Nov 21, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nope my employees will
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I sure hope that you do not have to drive the Sonic
>> 
>> RB
>> 
>> 
>>> On 21/11/2017 2:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> So yesterday I had to go purchase a brand new Chevy Sonic for a company car 
>>> so the wife drove my 98 e300 back home. When I went to leave for work this 
>>> morning when I inserted thru key it did not unlock the steering and would 
>>> not turn. I removed and inserted it a couple of times and it worked. I 
>>> drove an hour to my first stop. When I got ready to leave the key turned 
>>> but I got a red start error message in the cluster. I have never seen that 
>>> before. I removed and inserted the key several more times and it would 
>>> alternate between not turning, and turning not giving the start error. It 
>>> finally worked and started. I drove the car back home. When I got home I 
>>> tried it several times and it worked, then it did the not turning thing 
>>> again. Tried it a couple more times and it worked.
>>> 
>>> So looks like the wife has somehow killed another car. I am not sure I 
>>> trust it at this point.
>>> 
>>> Does this point to the key going bad or the ignition?
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I always thought the chem lab benches in my (late 50s, early 60s) HS were 
soapstone, and I spent a LOT of time there. Am I mistaken?

I do also recall "No zinc in the sink!"

Greg

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We ran with porcelain countertops in the kitchen. Hard on dishes but you can 
put a hot frying pan directly down on it. Installing tomorrow. Will see how we 
get by.

I wanted to use phenolic laminate, but got voted down. Like the high school 
chemistry lab tables. Comes in all sorts of colors, easy to clean, very strong.

On Nov 17, 2017 6:27 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes" 
wrote:

The current granite has some kind of a polymer seal that mitigates most of the 
issues it first had as a counter top. THough we only lived there five years 
after installing, the granite looked like new when we left. We still have a 
slab of it on the dinning room table, and it still looks like new with only 
wiping it down once in a while.

We had a new shower built/installed last year - a local company makes them from 
the same stuff that Corian is made from, though he custom mixes his own colors. 
It's pricy, but gorgeous (and the wife is now happy!).

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:16 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Wife selected (Corian?) when we built this house 22 years ago. It's 
> held up better than Formica and essentially still looks like new. It 
> gives the impression of marble but seems to be impervious to stains 
> and rough treatment.
> Granite is great for tombstones, but I can't see the practicality of 
> it being used for countertops.
> Gerry
> ~~
> Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > The biggest advantage of granite is that it teaches you the precise
value
> > of infinity.  I dropped a plate on the counter and the shards went 
> > everywhere.  I counted them up and it totaled exactly infinity.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I despise rock for a countertop.  Hard maple, or at least formica 
> > > for
> me.
> > > Formica is superior to rock in many ways.  cheaper, lighter, 
> > > trouble
> free,
> > > no maintenance, and a smoother surface to prevent bacteria growth.
> Maple
> > > has all that over rock, plus it is a natural antibacterial.
> > >
> > > I am glad to see that the rock countertop craze is dying.  Gimme a
> shovel
> > > to bury it.
> > >
> > >> OK Don via Mercedes  November 16, 
> > >> 2017 at 8:27 PM We think that our "blue pearl" granite is even 
> > >> more stunning than
> black -
> > >> it's black with blue iridescent flakes.
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] Heads Up Curt, Fred and the rest of us easterners

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Wikipedia says no. Something about a vast difference in the number of 
chromosomes.

Greg

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Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 7:37 PM
To: Dwight Giles
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel; Mercedes Discussion List
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Could they interbreed with foxes?

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Dwight Giles 
wrote:

> I saw,one run up our street last week. Also saw a photo of one,at the 
> boat ramp at end of street. Curt- better warn Buster.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Nov 17, 2017 2:35 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Coyote could become the wolf of the East CoastPublished: Friday, 
> November 17, 2017
>
> Coyotes might need to become the "wolves" of the East Coast to survive.
>
> Coyotes in the East are actually a mix of coyote, wolf and dog, which 
> is why they tend to be bigger than their counterparts in the West.
>
> The carnivores has expanded their territory in the past 80 years, and 
> their wolflike traits are helping them thrive on the East Coast, 
> according to scientists.
>
> But humans will have to coexist with these increasingly wolflike 
> creatures, researchers said.
>
> "We now have a novel, large canid to take over that new role," said 
> Robert Crabtree, chief scientist of the Yellowstone Ecological Research 
> Center.
> "The right size is going to be selected for us by biological evolution 
> itself."
>
> The coyotes might become more effective predators, which could be bad 
> news for deer. Ultimately, it could mean that the coyote becomes the 
> top predator on the East Coast (Patrick Whittle, Associated Press 
>  Getting-more-'wolflike'-is-the-key-to-the-future-for-coyotes>,
> Nov. 17).
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Re: [MBZ] Heads Up Curt, Fred and the rest of us easterners

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I remember reading that the eastern coy-wolf originated in Algonquin Park in 
Canada and spread rapidly, having superior survival qualities.

Here in Vancouver WA we have coyotes as neighbors, also cougars. There have 
been confirmed sightings near my home, and even in downtown Vancouver. Wolves 
are becoming more common in Oregon. There was a recent case of a hunter 
shooting one in...he said...self-defense.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] Heads Up Curt, Fred and the rest of us easterners

Coyote could become the wolf of the East CoastPublished: Friday, November 17, 
2017

Coyotes might need to become the "wolves" of the East Coast to survive.

Coyotes in the East are actually a mix of coyote, wolf and dog, which is why 
they tend to be bigger than their counterparts in the West.

The carnivores has expanded their territory in the past 80 years, and their 
wolflike traits are helping them thrive on the East Coast, according to 
scientists.

But humans will have to coexist with these increasingly wolflike creatures, 
researchers said.

"We now have a novel, large canid to take over that new role," said Robert 
Crabtree, chief scientist of the Yellowstone Ecological Research Center.
"The right size is going to be selected for us by biological evolution itself."

The coyotes might become more effective predators, which could be bad news for 
deer. Ultimately, it could mean that the coyote becomes the top predator on the 
East Coast (Patrick Whittle, Associated Press 
,
Nov. 17).
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New/Old Home Purchase

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Those food snobs would probably demand Mortadella!

Greg

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> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  November 16, 
> 2017 at 5:49 PM
>
>
> Never though about using bologna for a countertop. Does it hold up well?
>
> -D
>
So long as you don't invite in hungry Eye-tal-eens 
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[MBZ] M and R Heated Seats Class Action?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Just received a letter today from some outfit with a Class suit on some ML 
(2000-2005) and some R vehicles pertaining to overheating seats burning holes 
in seat covers. There's about 20 pages of legalese. From what little I know 
about these class cases, they benefit mostly the lawyers.

 

Anybody know about this deal?

 

Opinions/facts sought!

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] UNBELIEVABLY OT: Singer jokes about the Nile, now will stand trial

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Yup!!

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Subject: [MBZ] UNBELIEVABLY OT: Singer jokes about the Nile, now will stand 
trial

Yet another reason to be glad you ive in the US of A.

Singer jokes about the Nile, now will stand trialPublished: Thursday, November 
16, 2017

Famous Egyptian singer Sherine Abdel-Wahab is charged with incitement and 
"harming the public interest" after joking about the Nile River during a 
concert.

While onstage, the singer said drinking from the famous river can cause 
schistosomiasis, a water-borne infection caused by parasitic worms.

"Drink Evian, it's better," she quipped.

The video, taken last year, recently went viral online. Lawyer Hany Gad filed 
suit, claiming the comments insulted the Egyptian government. Now she must 
stand trial next month, judicial officials said yesterday.

The Egyptian Musicians Syndicate has also announced it is banning Abdel-Wahab 
from performing, due to her "unjustified mockery of our dear Egypt," and 
ordered radio stations not to play songs by the hit artist. The organization 
has vast power over Egyptian media. Its board can issue warrants for crimes, 
conduct searches, make arrests and help prosecutors in cases.

Abdel-Wahab apologized in a Facebook post yesterday.

"I don't remember saying that, because of course I don't mean it — this is not 
what I mean to say about my country," she wrote. "God knows how much I love 
this country and am dedicated to it. ... I promise to be more wary in the 
future of any naive mistakes that could put me in such a regretful position."

The Egyptian government has run a prolonged crackdown on dissent, jailing 
thousands for criticizing the state.

She is not wrong about the river. The parasite has plagued Egypt for decades, 
and the government debuted a multimillion-dollar project last year to get rid 
of the worm (Samantha Schmidt, *Washington Post* 
,
Nov. 16). *— NB*
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Re: [MBZ] 616 IP back bracket

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I wonder if a tight-fitting rubber hose would have enough grip on the bolt head 
to get the thread started. I have used a piece of synthetic rubber hose to 
start a nut on the inside firewall of my W123 to attach a new brake booster. 
Worked well.

Greg

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To: Mercedes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 616 IP back bracket

There is maybe 2" front to back.  The bolt is 8 x 16, so most of an inch is 
taken by the bolt.  Side to side is about 2 1/2" too.  It is  about 6" up to 
the bolt hole.

No room for any power tool I've ever seen

> Mitch Haley via Mercedes  November 15, 
> 2017 at 7:33 AM I think Gerry is onto something here.
> Can you stick it in a stubby GearWrench and wiggle the wrench while 
> pushing the bolt into the hole with your thumb?
> Or can some sort of 1/4" drive power tool reach the hole and you only 
> have to hit the go button?
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] Cars and Coffee SEC

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Was that a Freudian slip? You DO have a reputation for being cheap. As do most 
of the members of this list!

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cars and Coffee SEC

It.

On Nov 15, 2017 4:07 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:

Wash it up real good, and put a sign in the window selling it for $9995. I will 
be way cheaper than any of the Lambos and Ferraris.

On Nov 15, 2017 3:56 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So I’m thinking to take the “work in progress” SEC to the C&C this 
> weekend just to park a “project” Benz in amongst the garage queen 
> Ferraris and Lambos and other pricey overdone heaps. Write up some 
> glowing purple prose about it to put in the window. Maybe the $500 
> E300 dizzel too just for grins, smoke up the place. The daughter unit could 
> take her E320 over too.
> Hell even the 300SD, have a whole stable over there. Probably give the 
> swells palpitations having those things there. Or maybe not.
>
> There are usually no Benzes so this could be fun.
>
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Re: [MBZ] The cath is done

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Good News!

Greg

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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:58 PM
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Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: [MBZ] The cath is done

Just got home from the hospital. The dr said I have nice clear arteries with no 
blockage at all. The stress test was a false positive. At least we know for 
sure now. The symptoms were most likely from the high blood pressure. She did 
say it appears my heart is enlarged but it could have been the dye making it 
appear that way. I have a sonogram or whatever it is week after next to check 
that out. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

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Have you done any "ball and dummy" drills? Load a mag with some live rounds and 
some snap caps. See what happens when the snap cap is in the chamber when you 
pull the trigger. This reveals a lot of technique errors. 

Also, not having your wrist joint in a direct line along the axis of the barrel 
will flip your shots to the side.

Greg

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Good point.  I need to do the same with my shotguns, too.

I’m not aware of the front sight moving when I pull the trigger, but I’m 
figuring it must as when I shoot from the bench I’m hitting my aiming points.  
That’s why I’m thinking it’s a trigger issue.  And BTW, I’ve got a package of 
the diagnostic targets.  Had them for a while, just didn’t need them (until 
now.)

Thanks!

Dan

> On Nov 15, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On November 15, 2017 at 8:47 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Good information I’m looking forward to trying out the next time I go to the 
>> range.
> 
> Why wait for a range trip?
> Dry fire practice. Maybe even take a video and observe your hand placement 
> from the sides. Does the front sight move when you pull the trigger?
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Having a stent put in was not at all painful for me. IIRC I was pretty much 
awake during the procedure.

Greg

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Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 2:56 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc

So you remember the story a while back where I went to ER because it felt like 
I had skipped heart beats, tightness in the chest etc. That prompted a referral 
to cardiologist. They put me on a monitor for a couple of days that I wore 
around, which found noting. Of course all of this led me to cutting carbs to 
lose weight. So anyway they then set me up for a stress test which I did last 
week. Today was my follow up. It came up positive. There was some irregularity 
which long story short, I have any appointment next week for a cath, or 
whatever they call it. The will see if they find any blockage and fix it if 
they do. This is just great. I am way too young to be having these sorts of 
problems. 

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Re: [MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

This is some info using a more practical standard:

https://www.statisticbrain.com/driver-fatality-stats-by-auto-make/

It still makes the ML look very good by comparison to some other vehicles. The 
"E" class is in the same ballpark.

They beat the worst cars by a factor of about 10!

That's a better feature IMO than good fuel economy.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

I heard some list of vehicles in which nobody was killed in an accident ( i 
think in 2016)  The Mercedes ML was one of those on the listing.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I carried a M92 daily for several years (the double action only (DAO) version 
called the "Brigadier". It works, it is pretty reliable, but I did not love it. 
I have also carried a Glock 19 and an HK USP Compact in .40. My preference 
would be for the Glock or H&K. If you want self-defense capability, I recommend 
the .40 greatly over the 9.

Also, size and weight are a detriment to concealed carry. It's a lot more 
pleasant to carry something lighter weight. I believe that the polymer of the 
Glock and H&K help to absorb recoil. I worked with some agents who worked 
anti-narcotics in the jungles of South America, and they claimed that the 
anti-corrosion finish on the steel parts of the Glock resisted corrosion much 
better than others' stainless pistols. IME the Glock 19 had annoying snappy 
recoil with 9 mm +P+ ammo, but handled nicely with regular 9 mm ammo.

I think recovery for subsequent shots is faster and more natural with the Glock 
or the H&K than with the Beretta.

As far as grip is concerned: a consistent grip is a critical part of accuracy 
with a handgun. Revolvers tend to have a more rounded grip which lends itself 
to more consistency. A pistol (semi-auto) requires more practice to achieve the 
same level of consistency.

I would rate the Glock easiest to shoot well, followed by the H&K, with the 
Beretta last.

HTH

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

I was giving some thought to buying a Beretta 92 FS.

Any fellow listers familiar with this pistol, or have some direct experience 
they might want to share?

Thanks,

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] William Shatner

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I met him once, he seemed a bit of a jerk. Fame does that to a lot of people. 
He was pretty good as Kirk, but pretty much a one-trick-pony IMO.

Greg

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Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2017 5:10 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: [MBZ] William Shatner

I am currently in the same building with William Shatner. He is doing a show at 
a local PAC. 

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Re: [MBZ] Photos

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

What rifle and caliber is it with that nice octagonal barrel?  I have a .54 T/C 
Hawken I built from a kit. Fun stuff! I scared a whitetail with it once :-)

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond 
via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 1:09 PM
To: Donald Snook via Mercedes
Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Photos

I was out shooting today, no time for bow ties. Need to find some of the pics 
from b-i-l's wedding.
Shot the "from a friend" Kentucky rifle some more today. Its fun to shoot but 
hasn't been performing as I'd expect. The trigger is really rough and that was 
part of it but...
Well, lets see if you can spot the 
trouble:https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4572/38114770192_ecaf499023_b.jpg

-Curt

 

On Friday, November 3, 2017, 12:20:28 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 No one but Don is prepared to post a photo?
I will. I just need to get one onto this computer so I can forward it.Tried to 
get one off my phone yesterday but it did not cooperate.
I know why but did not have time to mess with it. Phone was not connecting to 
the same wifi and as a result my photo transfer app would not connect.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Spare Ignition Key for my '02 ML320?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Switchblade, but not very dangerous unless in the hands of an ISIS sympathizer.

For a spare I don't care about its shape, as long as it will work my locks and 
ignition. No computerized cloning device available?

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 4:30 PM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spare Ignition Key for my '02 ML320?

Is it one of the “switchblade” types of key fobs?  Those are the ones that are 
NLA at this time, although my dealer says that there are efforts being made to 
put them back in production but they’re not sure when.

http://www.keyobd2.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/e/benz-remote-key-shell-3-button_k011016_a.jpg

If it’s one of the teardrop shaped ones you’re good.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61h28pOYcbL._SX355_.jpg

Depending on the type (metal or plastic) a replacement will set you back 
$150/$200.  I just bought a plastic one for my W210 wagon, and it was $140 with 
my discount.

-D



> On Nov 2, 2017, at 7:13 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I only got one with the car, and I have heard these are NLA from the dealer. 
> Is there a reasonably priced solution so I can have a spare???
> 
> 
> 
> It would be nice if there were a place close by that could clone the 
> transponder. I would think there should be some device that would attach to a 
> computer to do this that does not cost a small fortune.
> 
> 
> 
> Greg
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[MBZ] Spare Ignition Key for my '02 ML320?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I only got one with the car, and I have heard these are NLA from the dealer. Is 
there a reasonably priced solution so I can have a spare???

 

It would be nice if there were a place close by that could clone the 
transponder. I would think there should be some device that would attach to a 
computer to do this that does not cost a small fortune.

 

Greg

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[MBZ] Ties and Self Defense

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

With the lengthy threads on ties, I am moved to mention that a traditional tie 
is a potential handle for a miscreant to grab and use against you. When I 
worked in law enforcement I would not allow my subordinates to wear anything 
other than a clip on. I guess it is not as much of an issue with bowties.

 

I guess this is not something that would occur to most people.

 

Greg 

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Re: [MBZ] Airless tires!

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Whut! Don't you know that air weighs about 15 lbs. per square inch! And to 
think...something 2-dimensional could be that heavy!

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy 
Bennell via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 2:14 PM
To: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Cc: Randy Bennell
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Airless tires!

On 30/10/2017 1:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
> Toyota Motor Corp. is looking to develop airless tires to reduce the 
> weight of its electric and fuel-cell vehicles.
>
Gee, I don't think that the air in my tires weighs very much. Toyota must use 
different air in their tires, than Ford, Honda and Mercedes.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] And the blaming begins

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Once you accept the fact that it is ALWAYS the man's fault you will be much 
happier.

Greg

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Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 3:45 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: [MBZ] And the blaming begins

So it was my fault because of the steering wheel on the car. WTH? 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: CPAP nasal pillows

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have been trying one out for a couple of nights. It makes me sore. I like 
that it is compact (for travel) but I think it's going back in favor of a full 
mask.

Greg

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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:12 PM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Mitch Haley
Subject: [MBZ] OT: CPAP nasal pillows

So I got a Fisher and Paykel Brevida last Friday after the talk here about 
nasal pillows when Kleb got his CPAP. Told my DME rep that I wanted something 
small in hopes it wouldn't dislodge as easily in the night, and that's what she 
gave me. 
The display mask fit great, I wore it for about 5-10 minutes while we talked 
and she got a new one for me. Unfortunately, she fitted the display mask to me, 
not the one she sent home with me, so I had to read the instructions and try to 
get it to fit. The instructions said to wear it loosely, but the headgear has 
two straps about an inch apart and it's not very secure, especially when loose. 

Finally used it last night, tightened the headgear one notch at a time until it 
quit leaking, but still woke up a couple of times with it leaking and had to 
reposition it. 
Nostrils were slightly sore when I woke up but the feeling went away within and 
hour. I'm sure I didn't have it too tight, but it might have been too loose. 

Should I give my nostrils a rest tonight, or wear the pillows mask again?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hello

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I was up at 0400 yesterday to take the son, DIL, Pomeranian, Newfie, and a 
crapton of luggage to the airport for their move to Honolulu. The ML320 (Benz 
content!) did not have adequate space for all their stuff, so I took the F250 
crew cab powerchoke (diesel content!!). The son has gone from USCG reserves to 
active duty and will be serving on the new Cutter "Kimball" as the lead of 
their Maritime Enforcement unit.  So I slept in a bit this morning.

I am drying some of the 2 1/2 lbs. of Chanterelles I bought a few days ago and 
searched for and found an extra power supply for a ThinkPad to replace the one 
the DIL lost at TSA yesterday. It'll go out priority mail tomorrow.

Cooked a couple of eggs on the new black steel pan I received and seasoned 
yesterday. Worked as well or better than Teflon even though the seasoning was 
quick and dirty on the gas grill! As advertised, it seems better than Teflon or 
cast iron.

Greg

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Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 8:16 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: [MBZ] Hello


Where is everyone?


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Re: [MBZ] Pahtz sources

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I pass through there from time to time on the way from SW WA to eastern WA to 
visit the daughter & grandkids.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 4:00 PM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pahtz sources

Mercedes-Benz of Tri-Cities in Kennewick, WA is the dealer.  Clay, do you know 
who these guys are?

-D


> On Oct 27, 2017, at 5:13 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I just found a dealer somewhere up north (MN?) who must have a source for 
> non-North American parts, like hazard triangles.  I've been looking for OE 
> mud flaps for both of the W210s since I got the first one, but the MB 
> versions are long gone, at least for the first gen models like my wagon.
> 
> With a Google crawler search running, it found a reference to one of the part 
> numbers on these guy's web site. I ordered a set (rear only) fully expecting 
> to be told they were NLA. Imagine my surprise when I got an email from a live 
> person the next day confirming my order and telling me it would be 2-3 weeks 
> since the mud flaps were in the Fatherland. I immediately gave them the part 
> number for the hazard triangle and they said it was a good number and they 
> could get it in a similar amount of time.
> 
> Anything that is non-DOT can't be brought in to a domestic dealer - even 
> though they show the part number to be good it's flagged as a non-US part. 
> That means these guys must have a domestic German source that is shipping the 
> stuff to them rather than getting it through Mercedes.
> 
> -D
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Banned?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I stopped watching NBC nightly news because of the political slant, started 
watching PBS instead. But there's some slant there too. I find that the only 
PBS news without any noticeable political slant is the PBS nightly business 
report.

Greg

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via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 4:20 PM
To: curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Michael Esh
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Banned?

I agree. I rarely watch or listen to the news. PBS   News Hour is the only one 
I watch a couple 
times a week.  Oh, and I watch Sponge Bob and the old Looney Tunes 
occasionally. It reduces my level frustration tenfold.  I’d much rather work 
around the house or play a little golf. 


Michael E. Esh


> On Oct 25, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It really isn't though. I get along fine with most people, we're really not 
> as divided as we're told we are. The best thing you can do for yourself is to 
> stop watching the news.
> 
> Xurt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>  On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via 
> Mercedes wrote:   Reminds me of the StarTrek episode 
> with an alternative universe where
> everyone is in constant conflict 24/7.
> 
> Oh wait - this is actually happening in the USA as I speak.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2017, at 11:39 AM, G Mann via Mercedes 
>>> 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have never been able to find my way to "banned" ... someone please 
>>> edumacate me on how to get there I curse fluently in 7 languages 
>>> and I'm sure I could contribute.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 8:34 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < 
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 It is also where folks get cussed at often.
 
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> On Oct 25, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Sure.  Here it is.
> 
> Banned is a list where people can discuss any topic whatsoever 
> without
 fear
> of censorship.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Someone send me an email on banned please.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] suspension flood

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I had a similar experience many years back buying a temperature sensor for my 
Saab 99. The indy parts guy knew his stuff. He sold me a part listed for a VW 
at about $20, the identical part # but listed for the Saab was about 4X that 
price.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy 
Bennell via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 1:47 PM
To: Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Cc: Randy Bennell
Subject: Re: [MBZ] suspension flood

My father used to tell a story about buying oil filters. He was in  a GM 
dealership for some reason and decided he might as well pick up oil filters so 
he went to the parts counter. The partsman asks what they are for and is told 
one for a Chevy pickup and one for a Buick sedan (I don't recall what years 
etc). Parts guy produces 2 filters with the same part # on them and the invoice 
shows them separately and the Buick filter is much more expensive than the 
Chevy filter. My father asks why and is given some weak excuse, so he tells the 
guy he has changed his mind and wants 2 filters for the Chevy. Parts guy is a 
bit miffed but produces a new invoice and the same filters are sold for the 
lower price.
RB

On 24/10/2017 3:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>> On October 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I doubt that very much.  Retail parts aren't a big profit center for them, 
>> so they are actually very affordable.  Just don't call in and ask for a 
>> price over the phone or they'll bone you. However, if you show up in person 
>> they're good.
> Now that's a very strange game.
> When somebody calls for a price check, they're saying "I'd like to buy it 
> from you, but if the price is too high, I'm staying away". And their response 
> to that is to quote double the actual price to scare the potential customer 
> away?
>
> Now, what just happened to me has a clearer motive behind it, if it was 
> intentional.
> A business customer calls the local Chevy dealer for the price on a couple of 
> seatbelts. My cost on them is $98 and $119 at Ed Rinke Chevrolet, but I'd 
> have to pay shipping or drive to the Detroit area to get them. I was going to 
> see if a dealer in Lansing would match Rinke's price, but my body and paint 
> man offered to get them for me wholesale. The local folks tell my friend that 
> they belts are the same price, $102.xx each. He says he'll take that. When 
> the belts came, he showed me the invoice, and they charged him 106.95 and 
> 129.70, which is more than I would have paid the Detroit guys to ship them 
> straight to me.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OBD2 tool

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I bought this one a while back, and IMO the proprietary data is worth the extra 
$. You get one manufacturer's code set free with the hardware. In the case of 
MB it covers MB, Sprinter and "Smart".

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N0QQZY7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


I used it on my inspection of the ML320 I bought, and the PO was looking at all 
the codes I pulled while I was checking. At dealer prices to overcome the 
codes, it scared the PO enough that I was able to negotiate a substantial price 
reduction.

The service records indicated a 9 year old battery, so I thought low voltage at 
startup might have caused some codes. A new battery... and the codes were 
gone!!!

Greg

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Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 12:02 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: [MBZ] OBD2 tool

Poos posted something about this tool, $34 from China on ebay, comes with a 
bunch of cable connectors but it might take until the next decade to show up.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Bluetooth-TCS-CDP-Pro-Plus-for-autocom-OBD2-Diagnostic-Tool-8PCS-Car-Cables-/302458929502?epid=927794844&hash=item466bf5015e:g:Z-gAAOSw7GRZBvbe&autorefresh=true

I was reading the BW forum and see this. 
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210-e-class/2823906-need-clarification-obd2-reader-w210-4.html

which I guess says you only need an OBD scanner, not a 38-pin thingie which 
maybe deals with the other stuff in the car.  I have a basic HF OBD dongle 
reader that works fine on my trucks etc, would that work (realizing I should 
just go try it, but I am having lunch at the dumpooter now so I thought I would 
lazily ax)?  Is the Benz OBD just throwing codes (and will my dongle read 
them?), I could then look them up?

On Amazon what appears to be the same device, minus all the adapters and gender 
menders is $60. 
https://www.amazon.com/Fabal-Bluetooth-Truck-Diagnostic-Silver/dp/B07476L15C

So now I'm also wondering if one of those cheap bluetoof things that talk to a 
phone would also work, they are only a few $$ from Banggood or DX, what is 
special about this particular device? Plus it looks like whatever S/W it has 
only runs on flavors of winders if you want to use USB or even bluetoof I 
guess, which is annoying.  I think I could use a standard app on either the 
ifone or an android, which are readily available for a few $$.

What should I do (besides going out to try the scanner I have to see if it can 
read the codes on the 99 E$500D).

--FT




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Re: [MBZ] OT bread

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Just to complicate things further...my cardiologist says to avoid carbonated 
beverages because of their effect on blood chemistry. I do not claim to 
understand the mechanism of this.

I mostly stick to icewater with the occasional beer or San Pellegrino pop (no 
HFCS, light on the sugar).

Greg

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Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 7:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT bread

Yay!  Soda is evil, just evil.  I try to only drink water, coffee, and a glass 
of wine now and then.  I drink a lot of Seltzer...
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 23, 2017 9:15:27 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>
>So, last week I quit drinking pop, at least until I weigh 165. I'm at
>195 now. Already I seem to be sleeping better without the High 
>Fruitcose Corn Syrup.
>Mitch.
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT OS

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Yes, if you can positively identify the species as safe.

Greg

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I have a varety of edible-looking mushrooms sprouting in my compost pile, which 
is 100 percent cat litter free.  Are these safe to eat?

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < 
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> Andrew sez:
>
> >‎What about morels?
>
> Mmm. Morels
>
> Alba, Michigan I've been told is the capital of morel growing.
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT OS

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I know a few that are definitely safe (for me to identify)...shaggy manes and 
puffballs. And the wild Chanterelles that are on sale this week at my local 
produce store for $6.99/lb.

Other than that I prefer not to risk my life. I know some really smart people 
who came near death by eating the wrong stuff.

Greg

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How about someone who really knows his wild mushrooms?

On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 3:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Thanks for the link. Always good to have knowledge when dealing with 
> poison snakes.
>
> Here on the desert, the rattlesnake is not my friend... and I "unfriended"
> 18 of them last year around the ranch house...
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 9:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for that, I'm pretty sure now it was a corn snake, which is A 
> > Good Thing to have in the garage to be a mouser
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/22/17 6:11 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.virginiaherpetologicalsociety.com/venomous-look-
> >> a-likes/copperhead-look-a-likes/copperhead.htm
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Zantac

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

In the past I have found that papaya pills were helpful with acute digestive 
problems. Luckily for me I don't experience this very much. Haven't in a long 
time.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Zantac

Just bought my first box of 75 mg Zantac.

Directions state to take one 30 to 60 minutes BEFORE eating to prevent 
symptoms, but can also be taken on the spot to relieve symptoms.

Question:  If I eat 3 hrs. before bedtime, then wake up 3-4 hours later with 
heartburn, how should I take the pill?

a. As directed - before eating
b. At bedtime
c. At 4 AM when the GERD attacks.

TIA,

Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Zantac

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I'm not sure why I think this, but IMO 3 hours is not enough time between 
dinner and bedtime.

FWIW,

Greg 

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Zantac

Just bought my first box of 75 mg Zantac.

Directions state to take one 30 to 60 minutes BEFORE eating to prevent 
symptoms, but can also be taken on the spot to relieve symptoms.

Question:  If I eat 3 hrs. before bedtime, then wake up 3-4 hours later with 
heartburn, how should I take the pill?

a. As directed - before eating
b. At bedtime
c. At 4 AM when the GERD attacks.

TIA,

Andrew
1983 300TD, 361 k miles  white/blue leather 
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Re: [MBZ] Titlesfax Scam

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I got stumped on that same question. The only thing I could think of was that 
the respondent to the ad is an agent of the domain owner and the scam would 
attempt to gain credit card info (or inject malware) through the fake website.

Greg

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So, what records does the scammer want, and what's the scam?
Do they somehow gain title to your car without payment?

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Titlesfax Scam

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

My son is trying to sell his 2015 RAV4 on CL. So he gets a guy who says you 
have to provide me with the records on the car because my bank requires it and 
they will only accept the report from Titlesfax.com. We had never heard of this 
outfit and the story sounded...more than a little...fishy. A search came up 
with nothing about the company except a CL ad out of Spokane saying that anyone 
requesting this is a scammer.

 

A "whois" gave the information that the domain was registered 4 days ago and 
that the owners made efforts to conceal their geographic location.

 

Anybody else heard of this type of attack against sellers?

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Defensive gun usage

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Andrew:

The term doesn't mean that you literally have an uncle named Bob; it is an 
expression meaning that all will go smoothly for you. It comes from an 
understanding that Lord Salisbury (Robert Arthur Talbot Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd 
Marquess of Salisbury: Bob) selected his nephew to positions for which he was 
not qualified based solely on the family relationship.

Greg

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Clarence was my uncle.

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < 
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>
> > On October 16, 2017 at 11:52 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Mostly acquired by theft.
>
> It's real easy. You just go to a Gun Free Zone, and break into the 
> cars of people who are forced to leave their sidearms in their cars.
> A lot of federal agents have lost guns at courthouses in San Francisco 
> in recent years, including a Park Ranger whose issue sidearm was used 
> by a repeat illegal alien to kill a woman. Just break into the 
> vehicles with government plates and Bob's your uncle.
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/gun-san-francisco-
> pier-shooting-confirmed-stolen-article-1.227
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Defensive gun usage

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

And by "lax gun laws" do you mean "laws in compliance with the Constitution"?

And why is it that those jurisdictions do not experience high rates of violence?

Should we ignore violence delivered by other weapons and only be concerned 
about gun violence?

Greg

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Aren't the guns mostly acquired from jurisdictions with lax gun laws?

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> BTW Chicago was 9/23 this weekend on the count, and Chicago is a Las Vegas
> every month.   Chicago also has very stringent gun control. Not a peep from
> the MSM about it for some reason.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 10/15/17 9:34 PM, as.thompson--- via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Twice. I didn’t have to take it out either time. But when confronting 
>> a potential intruder (luckily outside) on both occasions having the 
>> gun at hand probably gave my the bad guys the knowledge that I wasn’t 
>> going to be a victim. Both were apprehended by LE.
>> Regards,
>> Addison
>>
>>
>> On Oct 15, 2017, Mitch wrote:
>>
>> Have you ever used your gun to save/protect a life? If not, do you 
>> know = anyone who has?
>> http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/10/robert-farago/quest
>> ion-day-know-=
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Defensive gun usage

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Did not actually USE the gun, but had a good grip on the holstered revolver and 
was ready to draw and fire as it appeared a group of thuggish predators was 
making a trial run at my brother and me. I don't think they saw that I had my 
hand on a weapon as I had my left side turned toward them, concealing my 
action; but I'm sure they saw the appraising but unafraid look I was giving 
them.

We probably did not have the proper victim appearance, so they broke off and 
left.

A couple of guys I worked with in LE had to shoot some bad guys, interestingly 
all shootings were off duty. One of my fellow officers had trouble qualifying 
at the range, but passed the practical test when a robber pointed a (what 
turned out to be a fake) gun at him and demanded his money.

In the other instance 2 bad guys tried to carjack an off-duty officer. He shot 
one and the other was soon caught. They had done this before and had killed 
previous victims.

Final score: 2 bad guys dead, one imprisoned; two officers shaken but unharmed.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Defensive gun usage

Have you ever used your gun to save/protect a life? If not, do you know anyone 
who has?

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/10/robert-farago/question-day-know-anyone-defensive-gun-use/

Counselor Donald might be interested in one of the responses, but I think he's 
already passed on the Memphis job:
Noishkel says:  
October 15, 2017 at 12:44

Oh yeah… My myself, a family friend, and my mother… I was the only one that was 
able have one that didn’t involve actually shooting someone. My attackers ran 
when showed a gun.

Memphis kinda sucks. I’d advise not living there if possible.

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