Re: [MBZ] Will 240D Manual Tranny fit up to a 300D that came with anAutomatic?
Tom Hargrave wrote: Nope, different flywheel and you can't swap the flywheel because the 300D flywheel and crank are dynamically balanced together. The flywheel difference is more of a matter of weight, not size (the the 5-cylinder flywheel is larger, just not in diameter). You can get by with a 240D flywheel. You'll have a revvier motor, but the flywheel won't store as much energy as the proper one. Also, you can have either new flywheel statically balanced with the one that comes out of the car. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Chuck doesn't want this
tom savage wrote: Crack due to price or crack because the ad has scam written all over it? How about crack because the seller and the car are in Spain with a model of car that was never sold in the US, attempting to sell the car in the US? So, completely ignoring the potential scam aspect, he's selling a car that can't be registered for legal road use in the market he's attempting to sell it in. But a 2.5-16v Evo II? Drool. Shame it isn't a widebody, though... -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make
Tom Hargrave wrote: Wonder what happens to THOSE cats?? If you are attempting to justify ethlyene glycol poisoning as a moral equivalent to euthanization as a means of population control, I think you've missed the point. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
[MBZ] Met a fellow listmember at the junkyard today
Spent Monday hitting the local junkyards looking for a good core OM616 head and other chance offerings. Not only found a good head, but also found (or believe I've found after searching through my listmail archives) listmember Eric Peterson and his 87kmi '85 300CD. Good luck with the repair/replacement, that's a nice color combo on that car! And as an FYI, there were no w123 coupes at the Southside yard (but about 3-4 times as many Mercedes as the yard in Norcross). -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Detailing/Cleaning Stuff
Bob Rentfro wrote: any other detailing helps/tricks/stuff. It will take you the better part of a day, but here is the paint regimen I use: http://www.mbdiesel.net/240Dpaintdetail.html The results are absolutely phenomenal, and can be maintained with under an hour's amount of work weekly afterwards. If not maintained, you can get a good 6-12 months out of it with the very occasional wash'n'dry. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs
Harry Watkins wrote: Nothing big, I was going to sucker up the money and try a set of Sylvania Silverstars, one of the tested sets. The other four were: APC Plasma Ultrs White; GE Nighthawk; Philips Crystal Vision and Wagner TruView. The Sylvania Silverstars are okay. On the other hand, the *Osram* Silverstars are great bulbs. Just good luck finding them. And yes, Osram owns Sylvania, and no, I don't know why they put out two bulbs with the same name but are different from one another, but they do. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Lifting the rear end of a W123
Steve Marci wrote: Attn 123 folks. Is it OK to LIFT under the differential using a floor jack (and wood block) ?? Yes, it's okay. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Lifting the rear end of a W123
LT Don wrote: I have learned something then. There are a couple really nice jack points on w123s depending on need: Both front tires? Front crossmember. Both rear tires? Differential. One front tire? Frame rail behind the factory jack point. One rear tire? Subframe bushing plate (just watch out and don't crush the limit stop). Plenty of others that are safe, but utility is questionable for the majority of work when another method would be preferential. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Lifting the rear end of a W123
LT Don wrote: I cheat. Brother-in-law has the keys to the local Goodyear dealership (he is head mechanic), so when crawl under the car stuff comes up, we just use the lift. Me too. A two-post offset screw-type lift makes under-car work a snap. It's great when you need to do stuff like, oh, I dunno, pull the motor from a 240D: http://www.mbdiesel.net/240Denginepull.html -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Lifting the rear end of a W123
LT Don wrote: I gotta try that someday. Of course, wife [someone on here best described it as She Who Must Be Appeased] almost choked when I trailer home the project, better known as Car Number Four With Three Drivers. ... She's gonna crap when I buy the Gold Wing this summer and refuse to sell the CB-500K [unless, of course, Mitch still wants it]. While you and I are far from Kaleb territory, I've 4 cars with 2 drivers. I catch hell, but not so long as I look at w109s with green interiors and talk about possible future additions to the fleet... ;-) -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Lifting the rear end of a W123
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Is that at mats place? How big is his shop anyways? Im on the lookout for one here. Yes, this was at Mat's shop. Mat is extremely amazing/creative on moving cars into and out of his shop. Of course, the odd Citroen tends to make one that way... -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] old mystery car
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: there are no factory v8 sticks The 3.5L V8 would like a word with you, sir. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] new addition to diesel flock
Luther Gulseth wrote: I think he's trying to compete with Kaleb for lowest price and best value. Maybe just lowest price... -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] new addition to diesel flock
Luther Gulseth wrote: true, it is a Vdub I was implying that the Vdub was of more value than Kleb's usual parts car specials, not the other way around. ;-) -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Here we go again
John Berryman wrote: Now that I'm back from my FEMA deployment in Louisiana,Texas and Florida, I may have enough time to participate. Time will tell. If any of you owe me or just wanna send me lots of feel free to remit payment to me @ PO Box 969 Bolton Landing, NY 12814. Its perfectly OK to send CASH, oodles of CASH. Welcome back, Johnny B! -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] dial gauge question
tom savage wrote: I need to replace a rear wheel bearing on my 300D. Everyone keeps saying that a dial gauge is needed to properly tension them, but Sears and AutoZone claim never to have heard of such an animal and I'm not entirely sure what I need. Is this close? That is a dial indicator. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Rusty
BillR wrote: Rusty - Thanks, but I took your advice and ordered one from Kaleb - not cheaper, though. Bill, I think you took Kaleb's advice to buy one from Kaleb! -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] 123 Trunk Leak
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 1983 240D...I replaced the rear window seal my trunk seal is not leaking.. I have a water leak inside the trunk wall [ behind the seat], when it rains heavy..Any suggestions ? Check the taillight seals. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Korean 124s
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I think it would be nice of some chineese company or whatever licensed to start making brand new 126's, 123, and even 115's How soon we forget - the Nigerian scam-artists tried to convince us they were re-making w123s over 3 years ago. Don't you remember, all of them would be fitted with OM616.912 motors, and wagons would have leaf springs in the back... -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] 123 - mating differential to subframe
tom savage wrote: Put everything back together and I'm good to go. Go where? I've got a date in an hour and a black eye and not with those hands hands. But at least my car works :) Chicks dig scars. Not sure about black eyes, though. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] 250se - info needed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RUST WINS Flawless victory. F A T A L I T Y . -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Excessive current draw - '80 300TD - Source Found!
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Now its time to get a new one. Have fun. And what was the line on your buddy that rebuilds them? Drop me an e-mail off-list with his info and particulars. I'm weighing my various options - rebuild, junkyard, or the aftermarket digital replacement jobby... -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Excessive current draw - '80 300TD - Source Found!
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I will see if I can dig it up again. Seems like I might have a good one laying around. Wont be dirt cheap though. Well, I'd rather go with a properly rebuild unit ($$) or the digital replacement ($$$), versus a used good unit ($). Dirt cheap repairs only get you so far in these cars, and oftentimes you pay for your frugalness later on. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Excessive current draw - '80 300TD - Source Found!
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yea, a used one, such as mine, is going to run you close to $80 anyways. Which is a heckuva great price, I might add! But I've long since stopped being penny-wise and pound-foolish when it comes to my cars. I like driving my cars, and I like fixing things that break - I just don't like repeating myself every few months. You know, like with the set of motor mounts that I tore up in 8,000 miles. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Excessive current draw - '80 300TD - Source Found!
Craig McCluskey wrote: So how did you tear up a set of motor mounts in 8,000 miles? By driving like a diesel-mad lunatic. For some examples: I broke the rear end loose on the wagon at approximately 85mph with a slightly more abrupt than usual lane change. I'm probably 60-75% through the brake pads in the wagon that I installed - you guessed it - 8,000 miles ago. I drive our 300SD in S simply because I love fishtailing when turning at stoplights when the car shifts into 2nd. I've worn the outer edge off of all the tires on all the cars from taking turns at excessive rates of speed and grinding the tread off on the fenderwell. I'm admittedly *very* hard on cars. That's another reason why I don't cheap out on repairs. I anticipate a front suspension rebuild - including Bilstein heavy duties - lasting 50kmi, maybe 75kmi if I'm lucky, before the play and slop is so severe that I can't stand it and drop the money and do it all again. I buy 80kmi rated tires, and - if I'm lucky - will see half that tread life out of them. The world is my autocross. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Excessive current draw - '80 300TD - Source Found!
OK Don wrote: I put a new set of motor mounts in my 115 when I installed the factory crate 617 engine, only to have them collapse immediately with the engine wieght! I spent several weeks looking for what was hitting the frame - wouldn't beleive it could be the new mounts. When I relented and checked them, one was completely broken. Did it look as bad as the one on the left? http://www.mbdiesel.net/car_repair_photos/300TD/MotorMounts/motormount1.jpg http://www.mbdiesel.net/car_repair_photos/300TD/MotorMounts/motormount2.jpg -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Excessive current draw - '80 300TD
andrew strasfogel wrote: I vote for a shorted electric radio antenna. Guess how I know! I was thinking about that as well, but the antenna was replaced maybe 9 months ago. Plus, the current drain was still present even with all fuses removed from the fuse block. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] OT: Taurus Tranny Troubles
B Dike wrote: Apologies for soiling the MB list with Ford drivel, but just wanted to see if anyone has run across this problem: 94 Taurus w/ AXOD auto transmission, shifts into all gears with a solid clunk, but if car is stopped, need to race engine hard to make tranny engage, both forward or reverse. Once moving, car drives and shifts fine. Changed fluid and filter, no difference. Happened all at once according to daughter. I'm thinking it's toast. Any ideas before I buy a new tranny? Stick a fork in it, it's done. I had a '93 w/ 3.8L V6 many years ago that did the same thing - torque converter was out of alignment, and the planetary gearset eventually grenaded. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
[MBZ] Excessive current draw - '80 300TD
Apparently our '80 300TD is unhappy that I opted to take the Euro 280S out for the weekend trip to visit with family, and is throwing a bit of a fit. This morning, I came down to the car and opened the door and had an extremely dim front cabin light. Uh oh, I think to myself, and - you guessed it - not enough juice to turn the starter. I broke out the jumper cables and fired up the 280S to give the wagon a jump, and everything was golden and I got to work just fine. 7 hours into my workday, I went out to see if things were as bad as they seemed, and my fears were confirmed - dead as a doornail again. An hour later, I grabbed a jump to get her started, and made off for home. Once home, out came the multitester and the tools. What I found was that with the ignition off, I had current across the aux fan circuit (fuse 15, I think), and the clock/hazard/whatever else circuit (fuse 4, which is also where the aftermarket radio memory is supplied). That all seems normal. What wasn't normal was a 320mA current draw with *all* fuses removed. That tells me that something unfused is sucking my battery dry. Off the top of my head, that leaves me with a possible internal short in the battery (only a few months old, but Autozone Duralast brand and severely abused with a recent bout of poor charging from a bum alternator), starter (8 months old), or alternator (swiped from the 240D to keep the 300TD on the road, Bosch rebuild maybe 3 years old). Am I missing any other unfused sources? I ran out of daylight today, so I just left the negative terminal disconnected. Obviously, if I'm out of juice tomorrow morning, the battery is my prime suspect, but I'd like to know if I'm overlooking any other unfused potential power drains so that I can speed troubleshooting tomorrow afternoon. Thanks again, listers! -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Excessive current draw - '80 300TD
Jim Cathey wrote: The alternator will still charge with a bad diode, but it won't do it as well as it should. However, an unremoved auxiliary fuse for the wretched Chrysler ACC is an even more likely suspect. I'd start there first, actually. These things are notorious for freezing up and drawing current 24x7. To top it all off, repair is expensive! I'll give it a check tomorrow and report back with my findings. Everything is relatively easy to check: Dead battery tomorrow morning, despite being disconnected? Internal short of battery. Remove alternator harness and draw goes away? Bad diode in alternator. Disconnect ACC fuse and draw goes away? Bad servo. All of the above and draw still exists? Bum starter. Guess it could be time to consider replacing the servo with one of those new-fangled digital models... Thanks again, guys! -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Excessive current draw - '80 300TD
Kevin wrote: Given the recent price spike of servos, the price gap isn't all that large anymore (unless you have a spare servo and send it to the guy kaleb posted). The price doesn't bother me - it's the fact that it could be sold for considerably less than a rebuilt servo, but isn't. Oh well, supply and demand, capitalism, etc... -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] O.T.- Air Purifiers
Zeitgeist wrote: I believe a large amount of the dust and other indoor air pollutants are dead skin and the feces excreted by mites living off the dead skin. m, that's a pleasant thought. Let's not forget the mites that live in your eyelashes and hari follicles that lack an anus, and die of terminal constipation. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] 190D/E driveshaft?
Marshall Booth wrote: Take it from me Kaleb, 201 5 speeds have a unique balancing disc right behind the front flex disc. It balances the driveshaft. It is NOT sold separately. If the disc fails, Mercedes requires that you buy a NEW front half of the driveshaft and balance disc or a complete new driveshaft with disc. You CAN buy just the disc for manual or automatic 124 driveshaft, or for a 201 automatic driveshaft, but NOT for a 201 5 speed (not sure about a manual 4 speed)! Marshall's got it right. I've even seen one on the front half shaft of a Euro w123 wagon with 4-spd. Interestingly, the front half shaft eventually destined to go into my car does not have the rubber balancing disc, and never did as best as I can tell. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] 190D/E driveshaft?
Marshall Booth wrote: The problem is that these discs are used to balance a particular driveshaft. If your's doesn't need one and some don't - that's GREAT, but a driveshaft that's really out of balance will be intolerable (with vibrations - sometimes really nasty - usually between 40-50 mph). One of the driveshaft shops that specializes in Mercedes (most can't do them), can usually make them tolerable, but it will NEVER be the way Mercedes balanced it at the factory. Yeah, that's one of the things I'm looking into when I take the plunge for the manual conversion on my '80 300TD, getting the driveshaft rebuilt and the old rear half and new front half balanced as a unit. I've got a line on what I've heard is a great shop here in Atlanta, so maybe I'll luck out. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Front End Creak
andrew strasfogel wrote: Since we are discussing front end noises, what might cause a creaking noise when passing over speed bumps? Car in question is a 1985 300CD with new shocks, ball joints, upper and lower control arms, etc. - so clean underneath that you could eat off the bottom of the front end if you could figure out a way to flip the car over like a pancake. I exaggerate but you catch my drift. There appears to be nothing left to replace yet the noise persists - especially during COLD weather. The creak makes this beautiful car sound like a jalopy. Generally, in my experience it's been lower control arm bushings. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Merry Christmas, Friends
Bob Rentfro wrote: He sprang to his 190D, all Christmas arrayed , And they all piled in like Shriners in a parade. But I heard him exclaim, as I puffed my Christmas cigar, Happy Christmas to all, and TAKE CARE OF YOUR CARS! chuckle A new Christmas classic. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Unstable Starting
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Is your shifter sloppy? If so, your problem is the shifter bushings are worn and/or missing causing it to not be in the right position for the lockout switch. Next time it does it, hold the key in the start position as you move the lever out of park, thru the gears and see if it kicks in. That's what is happening with our 300TD wagon. I took the easy road and bypassed the neutral safety switch circuit completely by grounding 1 pin on the appropriate relay under the hood with a 2-inch length of wire. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] nice mileage palindrome
Luther Gulseth wrote: When I parked here at work this morning, my mileage read 230032 on the SD. The 300TD hit 174471 early last week when I pulled into the parking space at work. Next up will be 175571 in another two to three weeks, but I doubt it'll strike twice. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
Rusty Cullens wrote: They are on there, 2nd line. What about us lowly w116 owners? ;-D -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Roy Orbison's 600, collector auction report
LT Don wrote: What did Roy have, wasn't it a six octave range in his voice? Three. Which is still incredibly impressive. I _think_ that doesn't include falsetto, though... -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Buying a car in GA and registering it in OK
Tom Reynolds wrote: I think what he said is that the plates transfer with the car and not the owner. So, I'd be driving back to Tulsa with GA plates, a Bill of Sale, and a signed over title. Right? Wrong? Georgia allows owners to keep the plates for their cars with the option of transferring those plates to another car purchased later on. Based on that, I'd say the plates belong to the owner, not the car. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter misadventures
Lee Einer wrote: Just changed out both fuel filters on the 1980 300CD. Cracked open the banjo nut at the top of the filter and primed as directed. Or so I thought. *^([EMAIL PROTECTED] thing will not start now. Air in lines? How to fix? Crack the steel injector lines and crank the start until all 5 lines have fuel coming out. Re-tighten the lines, and start 'er up. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission Mount Install
Marshall Booth wrote: OK Don wrote: Do the Mercedes instructions and mine match even a little bit? Theirs are longer! ...and has pictures! -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] W123 Transmission Mount Install
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know the appropriate job # of the Installation Instructions? It's for a '78 240D 123.123.12.050680. Larry, The job # is 00-212 - Removal and installation of rear engine mount. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] WAKE UP FOLKS, Euro 85 300D manny tranny
Sunil Hari wrote: 5-speed Getrag on a 5-cyl. Datacard says 4-spd gearbox. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] WAKE UP FOLKS, Euro 85 300D manny tranny
OK Don wrote: Maybe that's why it's so hard to get into first !!! Well, once you permanently break that stubborn shift gate, it's easy... :-D -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] WAKE UP FOLKS, Euro 85 300D manny tranny
Mitch Haley wrote: I haven't heard of (reliably anyway) a non MBZ box on anything but a 16 valve W201. 2.3-16, Evolution, Evolution II all had Getrag 5sp with 1st gear back and left, 2-5 in an H pattern Nor I. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] this is waht happens when ...............
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is waht happens when dallas come to phila... beer cold ribs bbqing potatoe salad...saiding!!! wood ( for our back yard bond fire) stacked And, obviously, lots of tasty adult beverages. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] W124 Wagon Window Glass
Marshall Booth wrote: Whoa. I looked and the doors were clearly different, but the moving part of the glass window MIGHT NOT BE! You need to get someone with a working EPC to check part numbers. SORRY. I took a quick cursory glance, and the windows are indeed different from wagons to sedans. The right rear window is 124 730 08 18. Cross referencing that part number to model application, I get only wagon results - 300TE, 300TD, and the 300TE 4-matic. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] What is a diesel, part II (INTERESTING!)
Christopher McCann wrote: Diesel himself, according to his two companions, made a comment that he was threated on the ship...which explains why he made preparations for his death (like a person committing suicide might). We aren't going to know for sure, but it is not at all a rediculous conspiracy theory. Suicide is more untenable, IMO. Diesel was also losing money because of so many failed business and real estate ventures. Suicide to escape that fate and shield his family is not all that untenable, when you think about it. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Manuals?
R A Bennell wrote: I'm still using Explorer. Have tried it from home and office and no luck either way. I get through the initial screens but once I get deep enough to get detail, it says no page available in some spots - like the maintenance part that deals with oil changes - as I try to answer my own question about which side of the nylon filter disk is up. Try this direct link, starting on page 16: http://mb.braingears.com/114_115_Disk1/program/Maintenance/My72/151.pdf -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] What is a diesel, part II (INTERESTING!)
Christopher McCann wrote: Thoughts? Akroyd's engine was designed to run on vaporized fuel, while Diesel's engine used liquid injected directly into the combustion chamber. They are both compression-ignition engines, but the mechanics involved are different. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] What is a diesel, part II (INTERESTING!)
David Brodbeck wrote: Kerosene or alcohol burners were common ignition heat sources in early engines. They were used to heat hot tube ignitions in very early gasoline engines (before spark ignition). Hot tubes were also used in place of glow plugs on some early diesels. Obviously this was more practical for stationary engines than for vehicles. Yup. Early indirect injection engines had screw ports. Prior to first starting, a small rag was soaked in napthaline, stuff in the hole, and ignited. The screw was replaced, and the engine was started. Robert Bosch designed the first glow plug in 1922 to improve on this. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Weight of Bio/ Aux Fuel Tank
ernest breakfield wrote: the geometry involved seemed obvious to me (and you, apparently); but that didn't seem apparent to a poster who implied that the weight in the trunk was like a passengers weight in the rear seat,... that's why i thought it necessary and appropriate to be specific and clarify. was there something of value you were trying to add to the discussion? Marshall was obviating the obvious by demonstrating the multiplication of force (in this, the weight of several carboys of B100, which can be depicted as a downward vector acting upon the rear axle) as applied by use of a lever, particularly in reference to storage and transportation of alternative fuels in Mercedes sedans. Keep up, won't you? ;-) -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] center vents - no heat
Bob Rentfro wrote: Kaleb stated: yea, you have the dreaded type 2 cc I know...I hate it. Wasn't there some young, brainiac dude that was working on a viable replacement for this HVAC hell? I hope he is having sucess. Yeah, but it costs as much as a new servo. Honestly, I feared the things at first. But how that I've become a bit more intimate with them, I understand them a bit better. Interesting bits of voodoo, they are... -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] center vents - no heat
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have a line on a dude that will rebuild your servo for around $200 I believe if anybody is interested. Next question: what internal bits are replaced as part of the rebuild? -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] center vents - no heat
Holy crap, that sounds like a great deal! Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: here is the email I got from the dude, no affiliation etc: Kaleb, I completely dismantle the units, clean, examine,evaluate and ultimately replace all worn components...I also effect specific modifications to the main bakelite housing which greatly reduce the potential for future leaks and cracks = longer operating life. Once all components are properly prepared I reassemble them using new hardware while properly setting the timing. Finally, with the unit rebuilt, I install it on a test bench and verify its proper function. I guarantee my rebuilds for 1 year ...including my paying the cost of shipping ( both ways) should you require service due to the malfunction of one of my rebuilt units. Kaleb, To rebuild servo with uncracked housings = US$220.00 + shipping To rebuild servo with a cracked housing add US$35.00 to above. For further info call Doug at 514-484-7546 after 7:00 PM -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] OT: etiquette (was Re: Roadside assistance in Stlouis)
Kevin wrote: There are those that will just say to hit the delete button. Yeah, please do. That's partly why it's there. While this is a luxury for people that receive messages one at a time, this isn't exactly an option for people on digest. The digest people can scroll through it. They can see the e-mail header and think, Oh, it's that jackass again, let me hit page down/click the scroll bar or arrow and get to the next message. And this doesn't need to deteriorate into a discussion of how gmail is the second coming or anything either Bah. G-mail is good, but it's not *that* good. it's silly and selfish to think that someone should change their mail client to filter out messages that they shouldn't have to read. No, what is silly is that people who get offended by one person can't do the easiest thing in the world to make it go away - ignore it. Everyone raises a fuss. People get all emotional and write long missives about being nice, and how so and so is acting like a jerk and trolling the listgroup. It takes far less energy to to press the delete key, scroll past a message in the digest list, and considerably less than that to just ignore whoever is bothering you. And what is selfish is expecting the people causing the problem to police themselves. Some people are just that way. So let 'em be that way, and don't let it bother you. And before this turns into a freedom of speech discussion, the supreme court has held that freedom of speech does not cover offensive or profane language. Well, you are wrong on that point - freedom of speech does, in fact, cover offensive thoughts, ideas, and words. Remember: there is a right to free speech, but no right to not be offended. The rest of us on this list don't want OUR message getting ignored by the people with answers to OUR questions because the first message on a page/in a digest/whatever was a missive from you that made them think they had better things to do than read list mail anyways. This is a community of people that are not babes in the wood, Kevin. We all know about people, and how not all of them are nice, and how not all the time to people agree on everything. Therefore it stands to reason that we are also intelligent enough to ignore the trimmings and focus instead on the meat within. Let's get back to being civil and talking about our cars before Kaleb gets home and unsubscribes everyone who participated with this thread because he's tired of spending HIS time and money supporting a bunch of whiners. Being civil is easy for the majority, but don't let the small minority rile you up so bad. Breathe in, breathe deep, relax, and skip the message. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Trunk lock....Sucess!
Favorite Local Auto Parts Store - FLAPS Ron Dwelle wrote: Okay, I give up. What's a FLAPS? Ron Dwelle On Oct 26, 2005, at 3:57 PM, Potter, Tom E wrote: Your FLAPS should have it. I got mine at O'Reillys. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Sad Death
Our friend Gabriel would have to be pretty old to have met Georgo Washington. Richard Smith wrote: George Washington committed *adultery* with his *slaves* and died of complications from *VD*. That does not sound to moral or responsible to me. On 10/25/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Free Masons are not a cult, Free Masons are one of the worlds oldest fraternity's dating back to King Solomon...Anyone calling masonry a cult is IMO ignorant. I've met many Masons and I can attest that all the ones I have met are moral and responsible people. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
Levi Smith wrote: My 83' 300D has Gabriel's that the previous owner must have put in. What's the opinion on these? Garbage, because: This being my first Benz, I'm thinking it rides about like it should (kind of big and smooth, kinda like a boat), but I wouldn't mind a lot of firming up. I like the car more solid feeling. That's not how a Benz is supposed to feel. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
[MBZ] OT Re: Sad Death
redghost wrote: Maybe I should just cast swine and see what becomes of them. No doubt I will not get a silk purse. Will surely get a two bit opinion. As long as it stays civil, will not have to move to banned with it I think you are mixing your metaphors. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What they said. I think the Bilstein pleasure rated shocks can be had for $49 each, change the front two first if money is tight. You DO NOT want the heavy duty or sport. You will get a lifetime guarantee. I personally prefer the Bilstein Heavy Duty shocks over the comforts. More feedback from the car is a better thing, IMNSHO... -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] ebay bidders are nuts and don't forget car dealers
Hendrik Riessen wrote: While we are talking ebay, check out # 4580031711 Is this a factory job or aftermarket angle grinder conversion? Should've been a coupe, prior to the application of a Sawzall. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Bush warns of HUGE fuel increases this winter...WOW!
Nick Gough wrote: How does biodiesel fare during the winter months? Won't it gel a lot faster? If so, there will be a huge boost in anti-gel additive sales. A friend is buying a 1993 300D (2.5L turbo) and wants to use 100% biodiesel in it. Will he have to convert his car over to it? I know of someone else who uses 100% biodiesel in his Benz diesels without conversion and they run fine with no problems. So, who is correct? Are these guys flirting with danger of some sort by using biodiesel without a conversion kit for their cars? I'm no BioD wizard or anything, but the information that I repeatedly come across is that A) no conversion is necessary in most cases, though older rubber fuel lines should be replaced B) it gels at a higher temperature than diesel and C) conventional anti-gel agents do not have the same degree of effect in BioD as they do in diesel. If there is a better BioD-centric anti-gel out there, I'd love to hear of it. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Using dead cats as fuel
Christopher McCann wrote: ...in people it's called Krutzfeld-Jacob Disease (spelling certainly wrong) disease which also has a variant disease. Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease. Prions scare me... -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Oil Leak Location Advice
Vernon Ritchey wrote: On my '79 300 TD (617 non turbo) there is a constant oil film on the front of the engine and also on the alternator. What is/are the likel;y causes, front main seal? Kinda like this, or perhaps a little less of a film? http://www.mbdiesel.net/car_repair_photos/240D/Blowby/01-blowby.jpg ;-) -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Oil Leak Location Advice
Nah, valve cover gasket split on the front edge, spewing oil into the fan. At least the engine bay will never rust! Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: dude, you blew an oil it look like. John Ervine wrote: Kinda like this, or perhaps a little less of a film? http://www.mbdiesel.net/car_repair_photos/240D/Blowby/01-blowby.jpg ;-) -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Oil Leak Location Advice
Harry wrote: dude, someones not changing their oil like they should. shame on you :p Yeah I know. Someone clued me in that it's supposed to come out of the bottom with the motor off, not from the top with the motor running! -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] OT: Request Opinion on Political Issue
Bill Gallagher wrote: For if situation, President G.W.Bush said three week before the next Presidential national on TV, that Intelligence reports from the CIA and Homeland Security indicate a attack on the USA to disrupt the election like in Spain three years ago. And to save American lives, national election for a new President will be canceled until the threat is neutralized . And then, we as Free Americans, will have our free and open elections ... Please vote JUST Yes or No on your opinion above... Thank You Absolutely not. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] OT hearing loss and fault diagnosis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The constant reporting drives me nuts! That's why you are deaf in the right ear to begin with! Can't she see that she's contributing to the problem? ;-) -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update
tom savage wrote: Is there a simple seal in there or a bearing to keep the fluid in? There's the front seal on the input shaft... -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] SOS from a list member
Sunil Hari wrote: Jim called me again - he said that he and Tom have figured out that the tranny leak is coming from the torque converter. Solutions? Suggestions? According to Tom, it was coming through the grill below the TC. That's usually one of couple things - loose bolts or bad front seal/pump. Loose bolts are (relatively) easily checked, bad seals are a bear to check/repair on the road. Unfortunately, it sounds like Jim's tranny may have gone south. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] The new G-Wagen
Zeitgeist wrote: That thing's an embarassment...not unlike the new R-Class rolling turd. What the hell's gone wrong with German designers these days? They used to be so reliably solid and distinctive, now they're all agog over weird arcs and pointless embellishments. Sad I like to call it Keeping up with the Bangles. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] The new G-Wagen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.autobild.de/projektor/projektor.php?artikel_id=8186pos=12 It looks like a Chrysler Pacifica got drunk and knocked up a Chevy Trailblazer. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] 3 Cyl. 240D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 83 240D (235K) after idling poorly for a month is now running on 3 cylinders. Before an Italian Tune-up would help the problem has continued and was intermittent until now. First of all, welcome to the 1.8L 240D club! Valves are adjusted, filters 3 months old, primer pump replaced, fuel additives used. I suspect the fuel injectors or (I hope not) the fuel distributer pump. Do fuel injectors ever fail completely? is 235K near the limit? Any other thoughts as to what it could be? Tired rings, floating rings, broken rings, holed piston. Best bet, do a compression test on the cylinder with the problem. Not sure which hole that is? Start the car, and let her idle. Take a 17mm wrench and open the lines to the injectors. When you crack a line and the idle doesn't get any worse, you've found the bad hole. You could try to swap injectors around to troubleshoot, too, if you felt like it. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi with 1.8L of diesel fury! 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW I heard our forces in Iraq are trading their 9mm to 45's on their own dime. U, no. Do you know how much hell a soldier would catch for trying to smuggle a personal weapon from here to overseas? And when he runs out of ammunition, what then? It's not like the army is keeping crates of .45 laying around the desert when the issued sidearm uses 9mm. On the otherhand, many soldiers *are* bringing their own magazines, optics, etc. But not firearms. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] 123 Brakes
Alan Duff wrote: Just bought a 83 300D. The brake pedal is rock hard and only moves down a quarter inch or so and the car is slow to stop. The brakes don't seem to drag. Don't recall having this type of problem before. My thoughts are 1. Stuck piston in a brake caliper 2. Stuck master cylinder. Any ideas? How's the vacuum assist? -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] a NEW strange noise
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right turns are a lot safer anyway. Just make three rights and you have a left. BINGO, no more problem. This is the best solution. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
BenzBarn wrote: I'm laughing over here SEE? My offer still stands - how much for postage? -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
BenzBarn wrote: John? How much will you give me for this tool? It's not going to be free because I paid about 300 bucks for it. You said the tools were unneeded, so I offered to pay shipping to take them off your hands, remember? Can't have a toolbox cluttered up with unnecessary tools and all... ;-P -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
BenzBarn wrote: Well, for christs sake I KNOW what the tool is used for and where it's used, so in fact I'm not incorrect. Know one asked you to be the unofficial saviour of benz kind. You have a lot of nerve to call be uncivilized. For a PhD, you have much to learn Yet you were talking about a tool for checking hydraulic lifters in gassers in a thread about crimping the timing chain on diesels. Your post was misleading to the subject at hand, Marshall simply called attention to it. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] 1981 280E is not, but is Euro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oil pressure at idle was about .5 bar. I'm probably going to pass. Christ, you'd better. That motor is practically done. 5-speed or no, the car is toast. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Locked Ignition
Joe Mendyka wrote: In the past ~2 weeks, if I move my steering wheel at all before starting, the ignition locks up. I know that this is not uncommon. However, once it happens, it is almost unmovable. Sometimes it only takes a few tries but other times it can take 20 minutes of trying to turn the key before it goes. What's going on? Do I need to replace the ignition? Mind you that the key works for everything else and that when the ignition does not lock up the key starts the car just fine. You have an impending appointment with a dremel or a repair shop. Replace the tumbler, and while it's out, remove the steering lock and make sure it isn't gummed up. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool
BenzBarn wrote: It's never failed for me. I'm not buying a special tool for a one time job if I can make my own or improvise. I already have the hydraulic valve adjustment tool that I thought I so despritatley needed. Sits in the back of the tool box with a bunch of other '' needed '' tools. I'll gladly take all those unneeded tools off your hands. I'll even pay shipping. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Locked Ignition
Joe Mendyka wrote: Ok, I'm gonna go ahead and let my incompetence show through. What is a tumbler? What does it do? What kind of procedure am I looking at? The tumbler is what you put the key in. To take it out, you need a paperclip or very thin jeweler's screwdriver. You'll have it out in 5 minutes flat. To avoid clogging the list, I'll e-mail you the requisite .PDFs from the service manual offlist. But you'll have to tell me what kind of car you have first. ;-) -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Locked Ignition
Luther Gulseth wrote: How does one remove/clean the steering lock? My CD had a bad tumbler, purchased and replaced it, and it still tried to lock on me the first time I used it. SO I removed the NEW lock and have been screwdrivering it since till I can pull my parts ignition. TIA, Luther Since it benefits everyone with a w123, and removes the tumbler and the steering column, I'll attach the .PDFs to the list. Sorry to all you dial-up users that aren't on digest... -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 46-640-2.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document 46-640.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
Re: [MBZ] New lock tumblers failing?
Marshall Booth wrote: Tumblers WILL fail quite quickly if there is sufficient weigh hanging on the key - especially if the car is driven aggressively. Which is why when I beat the piss out of my cars, I have the lone Mercedes Benz key in the ignition and acquiesce to being struck by flying debris in the cabin. If I have to salvage my keys and other personal belongings from the spare tire well and/or points unknown when I come to a stop, so be it. Beats dealing with a failed tumbler any day of the year. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] New lock tumblers failing?
LT Don wrote: John: ?? WT* is the flying debris stuff? Anything not secured in the passenger cabin becomes flying debris shortly after the oil pressure gauge pegs. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Passed Over for Top Post, Head of Mercedes-Benz Will Resign
Christopher McCann wrote: What worries me is when the cars that most of us have are very hard to find (10 years)...then what - a 320 CDI that is wired like the space shittle? (pun intended). It makes me want to stockpile 300D's for my kids. oh well. ranting done. I'd rather the space shuttle. As of a few years ago, they were still greatly relying on the venerable 486 processor for most of the computer systems. Old, yes, but proven and reliable through the years. It may go into space, but the tech that gets it there is far from cutting edge. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Passed Over for Top Post, Head of Mercedes-Benz Will Resign
Mathieu J. Cama wrote: Seems they are to be disposable just like a good old Bic lighter. I've had Bic lighters last longer, though. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] CARFAX please
Rory wrote: I have found a 77 240D with 150k on it, looking for some info and history. Could someone run a carfax on this VIN for me please? 12312312040066 It's too old, Rory. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] CARFAX please
Rory wrote: Anything I should look out for? Your wallet. That's a bit much for a 240D in the condition you describe. Strike that. That's way more than I'd pay for a 240D in that condition. It's not quite Kaleb fodder, but it might be getting close. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures
Steve MacSween wrote: Push down all the way on the (vertical) linkage rod that actually works on the injector pump. Or was that pull up? No, must be down. (Can't go out and look, car is not here.) The STOP button does that anyway, no? If your stop button does not work then you have a major linkage issue, nothing to do with the vacuum shutoff. If the vacuum shutoff switch is not engaged properly, I don't think the stop lever will help you, as the injection pump rack is shoved by the end of the shutoff lever into the realm of Oh snap!. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] OM617 into 240d with 4-spd
Steve MacSween wrote: Has anyone here actually DONE this? Pls e-mail me offlist, I have some questions I know that Craig McCluskey has, as has Mat Cama. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] OM617 into 240d with 4-spd
juan palacios wrote: yes ,the only problem is that you to find a good driveshaft place to cut the drive shaft. Or, find the proper front halfshaft and just have it and the rear rebalanced. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Need guidance on an engine or driveline swap, w123 240d
Steve MacSween wrote: 1. install engine and manual gearbox (4 spd) from a rusty 240d parts car at a local shop, just swap drivelines complete, however the rusty car has 2x mileage of my car. Easiest. 2. install OM617 from a parts car. Question: I assume the automatic transmissions are not the same? (If they are, I am over the moon as my 240d has a 2-yr-old dealer reman tranny.) Not quite as easy. 3. install OM617 with the 4 spd... this just hit me this moment, as I was typing. (Can this be done? Is this the 4-spd also used in the six-cylinder cars?) Hardest. Need more hard-to-find parts for the swap, or re$ort to cu$tom fabrication. Ask me how I know, because I've accumulated everything but the time to make our 300TD a manny car. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Need guidance on an engine or driveline swap, w123 240d
Peter Frederick wrote: Putting the 617 in is more complicated, as you need different front springs and a different drive shaft -- at least the front half. Tranny will bolt right up, linkage will work, etc, but the driveshaft is shorter, probably have a hard time finding one (although the 615 auto driveshaft may fit the 617 manny tranny). Don't need to bother with springs much, just maybe spring spacers down the line for a proper conversion. Front halfshaft is different, shifter linkages are different, transmission crossmember is different (though, same crossmember as 240D auto), and auto driveshaft will not work. The 617 manny flywheel is different too, but some folks have used the 616 manny flywheel with no problems - longevity is still up in the air, though. The 5-banger was factory balanced differently than the 4, which explains some of it. Toss in driveshaft rebalancing, pulling dash to install pedal cluster, etc, it's not an easy swap, but doable. Figure a week in a well-equipped shop to do the swap, and another week to sort out niggling issues. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] 126 STABILIZER FAILURE--UPDATE/Opinion/ Correct me ifI'mwrong!
Rick Knoble wrote: There is something you don't know about. The stabilizer holds the upper control arms in place. Danger Will Robinson, do NOT drive it like that! It doesn't hold them in place, it links them together in an attempt to improve handling characteristics and reduce body roll in turns. The UCAs are mounted to and pivot at the body on one end, while the other end is connected to the steering knuckle, the bottom of which is mounted to the lower control arm which is held in place by the spring (whose other end is mounted to the chassis, and whose motions are damped by the shock absorber). The LCA is stabilized at the rear by the caster joint. While short-term I think the car would be drivable, long-term I think it would wear the suspension components quickly as they were forced to move more than they should. Worst-case, you over-extend a shock on one side, and ram the UCA of the other side through the inner fender (or rip the UCA from it's mounting point altogether). So, not safe, but certainly doable. I certainly wouldn't do it unless it was the only means to get myself and the car home, where the car would then be parked until I either parted the car or repaired it - with a preference towards the former. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] SLR vs E55 video
TimothyPilgrim wrote: You want to see something very cool? The Ariel Atom. And yes, you too can own one of these and not have to sell the house. http://www.mbcanada.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8351 Make sure you DL the (large) video at the bottom link. My epiglottis is full of bees! -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
