[MBZ] Violent shudder
Hello All,
Sorry for the long absence from the list. I haven't had much time for the
diesel fleet the last few years due to extended overseas work assignments. I
also moved recently and had to clear out the parts cars.
Things are back to normal now and I have started driving the old coupe again
('83 300CD). The car has developed a very violent shudder when accelerating
between 5 to 20 mph under a reasonable load. Above 20 mph everything is
smooth again. If I accelerate very slowly the shudder is also not
noticeable. It feels as if something is banging in the area of the center
console. The vehicle is currently at my Indy for a new exhaust system. That
has been installed and can be ruled out. The drive line was also overhauled
about 50k ago with the flex discs and driveshaft hanger bearing replaced.
Indy also put the vehicle up in the air and accelerated the engine and could
not reproduce the shudder so the engine has to be under load. The engine
mounts do not seem to be in too bad of shape but haven't been ruled out as
the cause. Indy has had numerous friends check the car out as they visit and
nobody has come up with a clearcut solution yet. Vehicle was also driven in
reverse at a fairly high speed without experiencing the condition.
Has anyone experienced this condition before? We are hoping to pinpoint the
cause before randomly starting to replace components. It's almost x-mas and
I'm trying to keep the finances in control.
Thanks in advance.
--
Ralph Wasserbaech
2001 E320 wagon
1983 300CD
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Re: [MBZ] Violent shudder
Yea, I agree with the assessments. My Indy is a very thorough guy so I am
thinking that nothing is really bad visually but something must be worn out.
I want to avoid the trap of just changing out parts until the problem is
fixed. I will pass on your conclusions and have him check again. My records
of what was changed are in the car so I'll have to get my Indy to check
again.
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote:
Sounds a lot like either flex disc or center carrier bearing mount or
something else in the drive shaft. 50k miles on an aftermarket flex disc
is
a reasonable life if a little on the short side - did you get OE or OEM?
-Max
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Subject: [MBZ] Violent shudder
Hello All,
Sorry for the long absence from the list. I haven't had much time for the
diesel fleet the last few years due to extended overseas work assignments.
I
also moved recently and had to clear out the parts cars.
Things are back to normal now and I have started driving the old coupe
again
('83 300CD). The car has developed a very violent shudder when accelerating
between 5 to 20 mph under a reasonable load. Above 20 mph everything is
smooth again. If I accelerate very slowly the shudder is also not
noticeable. It feels as if something is banging in the area of the center
console. The vehicle is currently at my Indy for a new exhaust system. That
has been installed and can be ruled out. The drive line was also overhauled
about 50k ago with the flex discs and driveshaft hanger bearing replaced.
Indy also put the vehicle up in the air and accelerated the engine and
could
not reproduce the shudder so the engine has to be under load. The engine
mounts do not seem to be in too bad of shape but haven't been ruled out as
the cause. Indy has had numerous friends check the car out as they visit
and
nobody has come up with a clearcut solution yet. Vehicle was also driven in
reverse at a fairly high speed without experiencing the condition.
Has anyone experienced this condition before? We are hoping to pinpoint the
cause before randomly starting to replace components. It's almost x-mas and
I'm trying to keep the finances in control.
Thanks in advance.
--
Ralph Wasserbaech
2001 E320 wagon
1983 300CD
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1983 300CD
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Re: [MBZ] 92 2.5 for sale in Michigan
I'd be interested in seeing what it goes for if it hits Ebay. It is a dead ringer for my '90 with the cracked head. Did you drive it by any chance? I'm curious how the engine performed with that many miles. I'm also selling my '87 wagon but have had limited interest at $2000. Here's a link. https://accounts.craigslist.org/post/shwpst?pii=1132747762db=lv -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090503/f79a1006/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 2.5 for sale in Michigan
http://detroit.craigslist.org/cto/1132747762.html On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Wants a password -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090503/8924f5f8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Steering gearbox leak
Thanks Peter. I've seen the picture of the gasket kit on Rusty's site and was a bit intimidated. I think I hear you telling me to swap the steering box with the one from my parts car. Ralph On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: Typically a simple seal replacement won't fix the leak -- it's leaking because the bearings are shot and there is excessive play in the output shaft or there is a slot cut in the output shaft. I've seen a rebuild kit for those boxes -- there are a billion little blts and dozens of seals... Peter Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090428/ea1aac1d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W123 Steering gearbox leak
Hi All, The steering gearbox on my '83 300CD has developed a leak. I can't really identify where the leak is coming from but it is definitely from the gearbox. I have a spare box from my wagon parts car I could use to replace it with or I could try the gasket rebuilt kit. Anyone had luck rebuilding the gaskets on these or should I just swap units. I hate to put the other one in and have it start leaking. How susceptible are these units to a leak? Anyone else have some experience with the 123 steering box? -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090427/a372481b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cartop carriers, gutter mount
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.comwrote: Anybody know where I could get one, or a set of gutter mount rooftop racks? It seems as though one of those make the perfect hoist attachment for a 107 hardtop. I use Yakima gutter mounts for my 123. Work great and are super sturdy. -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090419/2ac667ba/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5T engine for Ralph
My parts wagon has a blue MB Tex interior. It is pretty picked over and trashed at this point. The wagon is going to the salvage yard when I find time to haul it out of my backyard. RW On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:04 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Ralph, please reminde me - what is the interior color on your parts car? On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Ralph W wasserb...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Rich. I will have to give this some consideration. I wonder what they would charge to ship the engine to Detroit. $500? I figure with shipping and labor to install it I'm looking at $3000 to get the car on the road. Is it worth the risk. Maybe someone else wants to take this task on. It is my wife's favorite diesel. I'll let you know if I need further help. Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I went by the junkyard and the car is still there, quite nice looking except for the missing wheels and 2 rt doors and the interior now getting ratty. Anyway, the guy says the price on the engine is $1750, won't sell just the head. He looks stuff up somewhere and says this is the price. He says it was a runner and he was going to sell it, but someone wanted the doors to fix up another one, I did not see anything blowing out or around. I took a coupla pics on my phone (not real good) if you want to see the car and engine. --R -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090416/d0475570/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090416/2397bffb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090417/16669b89/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5T engine for Ralph
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Michael E. Esh michael...@charter.netwrote: Ralph, Are the wagon's back doors (left and right) any good. I have a 1982 300TD I am rebuilding and need a couple of rust free doors. Thanks, Mike My parts wagon is pretty much a rust bucket. I could only help with things like glass and hardware. RW -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090417/7de5f1e0/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5T engine for Ralph
Thanks Rich. I will have to give this some consideration. I wonder what they would charge to ship the engine to Detroit. $500? I figure with shipping and labor to install it I'm looking at $3000 to get the car on the road. Is it worth the risk. Maybe someone else wants to take this task on. It is my wife's favorite diesel. I'll let you know if I need further help. Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I went by the junkyard and the car is still there, quite nice looking except for the missing wheels and 2 rt doors and the interior now getting ratty. Anyway, the guy says the price on the engine is $1750, won't sell just the head. He looks stuff up somewhere and says this is the price. He says it was a runner and he was going to sell it, but someone wanted the doors to fix up another one, I did not see anything blowing out or around. I took a coupla pics on my phone (not real good) if you want to see the car and engine. --R -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090416/d0475570/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5T engine for Ralph
I've been checking car-part.com for the last 8 months. Not many out there and they are too expensive. Mostly in the same price range as the one Rich looked at. None even close to me as well. I kind of tend to agree with Kaleb and Tyler. -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090416/396d093c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Detroit today
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You just wait -- after the Obama administration gets the car companies building the cars America needs and when the mayor and city council members get out of prison and can get back to governing the city properly all will be restored to its former glory. WOOOH! --R I've been holding my breath Rich...but I'm getting kind of dizzy.. -- Ralph Wasserbaech Born, raised and still living in Metro Detroit (just barely) 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090414/a087f2fd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] House cleaning - MB's FS
Hello Listers, The time as come to divest myself of some of my fleet. I need to dispose of the the '90 300D and the '87 300TD. They will probably hit Craigslist shortly but I'll share the particulars with the list first. E-mail me if you have any interest and I can provide more details and pics. Cars are in Metro Detroit. 1990 300D: Bad head. Body is in excellant shape. No rust. Alabama car. Rebuilt rear suspension. Nice beige MB Tex interior. Good tranny. 225K on the clock. AC not working, probably bad evap. Best Offer. 1987 300TD: I bought this wagon from Jeff Zedic about two years ago. 305K on the clock. Runs well and tranny is decent. Replaced a while back with a salvage tranny. Minor rust in wheel wells. Fair interior. AC not working. IP leaks oil, needs to be rebuilt. Leveling system recently rebuilt. $2000 or B.O. -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) 1995 Infinity G20 (inherited recently) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090414/f6e3859d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] House cleaning - MB's FS
That's correct Alex and no I'm not trading it for any rodbenders! RW On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Is that 300D the 6cyl? There is a (built 12/90) 350SD sitting at a mech shop with a bad head gasket, I guess the rodbender 350 engine. Car is in beautiful condition, I guess the PO didn't want to fool with the gasket. I understand these cars have good head/bad block, do a swap of good head/good block and you have a nice runner. No, that '90 300D is the 2.5-liter five. I think the head would look kind of funny on the 350SD's block. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090414/16fbe7b8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] House cleaning - MB's FS
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:35 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hey Ralph - Re the 300D - when you say Bad head can you be more precise? cranked? needs guides? valves? warped? Is there any hope of fixing the head or is a replacement one needed? The head has cracks and needs to be replaced. RW -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090414/425af9b3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Long trip in the 190DT
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:03 PM, tyler casi...@usermail.com wrote: I'm going to drive the 190DT from LA to Portland (and possibly Seattle) and back all in a weekend to attend a funeral. It should be quite a bit cheaper than flying, especially if I can pick someone up to help pay for diesel ($2.30/gal*2000mi/30mpg=$153, flying is $400). I hope she does well, since this is what I have this car for, but there's some worn suspension bushings in the rear and it's been handling a little squirrely :( Don't forget to factor in the cost of a set of rear tires. When the rear end goes on those cars the tires will wear very quickly. Ask me how I know. -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090414/ad54da66/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Electronic key story
Hello all, I thought you might be interested in hearing this story. Last weekend my wife and I are in a bar in downtown. When we leave around 1am the electronic key doesn't work (2001 E320 AWD wagon). This is now the second key which the ignition will not recognize. The first one happened around 7 months ago and we never got around to figuring out why. I've been in Mexico for the last six months and forgot to bug my wife to take the key to the dealer. Now we have no extra key and an all wheel drive car with a locked steering wheel which is in Park. So we get my Brother-in-law out of bed to pick us up and take us home. We leave the car in front of the bar in the valet spot. This is Friday night so we can't get anyone from the dealer until Monday morning. I decide to have the car towed to a relatives as I don't want to leave the car in downtown Detroit for the weekend and the bar doesn't want it there either since it's the NCAA Final Four weekend. Towing the car was not fun. It had to be dragged up a flatbed with none of the wheels turning and the front wheels turned all the way to the left. We had to drag it back off the flatbed with my BIL's truck. The only thing MB Roadside assistance could do was offer to send a truck and jump the car. Not the right solution. A little Internet seach uncovered the fact that each electronic key only provides 199,999 nstarts per key and then runs out of codes and has to be replaced. Sure doesn't seem like the car has been started that many times in 8 years but who knows. The service deptment was no help. They insisted that two keys couldn't have failed. They were opting toward the Electronic Ignition System and wanted me to have my car towed to them. Replacing the EIS costs $1000. I ordered a new key and $230 later the car started and works fine. I now have two useless keys which can open the doors but not start the car. Isn't technology a wonderful thing? -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090412/25f3f38e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Brake question
I've got a leaky brake caliper on my '83 coupe. The front half of the reservoir is empty. Does anyone know which two wheels this reservoir feeds. This may save me some time figuring out which caliper to rebuild. The car has been sitting for a long time while I was in Mexico and doesn't have fresh brake fluid on the wheel any more. TIA -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090412/9ec23420/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake question
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net wrote: I don't know about the newer Mercedes but the older ones were cross-plumbed, with the front feeding one front the opposite read and the rear feeding the other two. The odd thing is there are only three lines coming from the master cylinder. The front one goes to the rear of the car. The other two are sort of side by side coming off each side of the MC and they appear to go to the front calipers. This is based on a quick look from the engine compartment only. RW -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090412/45e4b4b4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] value 300D
Rich, I would need to know if the engine is any good or if the head could be salvaged. Doesn't sound as if I'd have much luck dealing with this place long distance. It's for a pretty decent car but I don't really need it and it may not be worth the trouble fixing. May be best left for someone else. Where are you these days? Didn't you move to the Carolina's? Ralph On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: What do you need to know about it? Not sure they will know much about a particular car -- the only guy there half-way intelligent is Terrance who seems to be overwhelmed with dealing with all the other partial wits hanging around. --R Ralph W wrote: Rich, Can you get some additional details on that vehicle. I need a head or engine for my '90 300D otherwise Kaleb may be getting a good deal. Ralph W. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I was at a junkyard today stripping a 300SD, and they had one of those 300D 2.5T, doors gone but in pretty good shape otherwise, nice interior, 185k on the clock, engine still there, not sure why it was junked. --R OK Don wrote: I have tow of those cars - LOVE them! Mine have 275,000 and 350,000 miles. The paint and interiors on mine are good. I'd guess between $3,000 and $5,000, but might be lower now. Depends on what you'll offer, and what they will accept. Check the alignment of the belt tensioner and idler pulley, AC evaporator, and how it runs/drives in general. Records? On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:20 AM, drcscru...@aol.com wrote: I have a fellow who has a 92 300D with 2.5 with about 120k miles selling near me.? paint good but not great, expected for this car.? Would anyone care to put a value on it and what to avoid?? I have an interest in it and wanted sage advice.? Thanks -- OK Don W124 Diesels KD5NRO -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090327/e1eedd0d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090327/b2a3cb70/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/c7f1a629/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/88a57ba0/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] value 300D
Rich, Can you get some additional details on that vehicle. I need a head or engine for my '90 300D otherwise Kaleb may be getting a good deal. Ralph W. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I was at a junkyard today stripping a 300SD, and they had one of those 300D 2.5T, doors gone but in pretty good shape otherwise, nice interior, 185k on the clock, engine still there, not sure why it was junked. --R OK Don wrote: I have tow of those cars - LOVE them! Mine have 275,000 and 350,000 miles. The paint and interiors on mine are good. I'd guess between $3,000 and $5,000, but might be lower now. Depends on what you'll offer, and what they will accept. Check the alignment of the belt tensioner and idler pulley, AC evaporator, and how it runs/drives in general. Records? On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:20 AM, drcscru...@aol.com wrote: I have a fellow who has a 92 300D with 2.5 with about 120k miles selling near me.? paint good but not great, expected for this car.? Would anyone care to put a value on it and what to avoid?? I have an interest in it and wanted sage advice.? Thanks -- OK Don W124 Diesels KD5NRO -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090327/e1eedd0d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090327/b2a3cb70/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090329/648962c7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
My Indy just inherited a '79 W116 with a broken unit. What's the story on replacement? Does Rusty still sell them rebuilt and for how much. What's the chance of finding a good used one on Ebay or elsewhere? Are they interchangeable with 123's? Any advice would be appreciated. It's not often I can actually return a favor or two for my Indy. Ralph W. 2001 E320 wagon 1983 300CD 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1982 300TD parts wagon On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: you will need to replace the servo, I dont think anybody can tell you want type of grease to use because nobody has ever been able to rebuild them. I think you will find when you get it apart its going to need more than grease to keep it from getting stuck. Douglas wrote: Alright I have determined that the battery drain is from the servo. I believe that the thing gets stuck. What type of grease should I use on this when I take it apart this weekend? Douglas -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090219/b84a5900/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Head for my OM602
Thanks Kaleb. That confirms the same number I found on a russian website. Is this number stamped somewhere on the side of the head where it can be easily found? On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: That number does not pull up anything in the EPC. The correct part number for a 602 turbo head is 6020108120. The non turbo head is different as well. Not sure if a non turbo head would work on a turbo engine. I suspect it probably would, but maybe would not have as much power or something. Heck, maybe it would have more power. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '92 4matic ??
Most of the conversations I have read concerned the 4-matic wagons. They mostly seemed to need a rebuilt around 75K miles. If the car has a rebuilt transfer case than they were fine. If it hasn't been rebuilt yet than beware. I'm pretty sure this info came from Marshall. Ralph W. On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Its the same sort of tank like used on the SLS for a wagon. Its on the drivers side, behind the headlight in that area. E M wrote: Thanks Kaleb. Where is the tank located? Ed 300E 2008/11/28 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it doesnt have any fluid in the hydraulic tank, the case is probably bad. Other than that I dont know. The 104 started in 90 in the 300CE, was never offered in the 4 matic. E M wrote: Hi guys, I have a '92 300E 4matic lined up to look at this weekend. I've heard to watch out for problems with the transfer case. Any signs to watch for to indicate a bad case? It's a dealer car, and it has some records, so the guy is trying to dig up what history he can. Car has about 230,000 kms, with all emissions and safety done. He's asking $3900 for it. When did the 104 engine start, was it '93 ? Any thoughts or advise appreciated. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1818 - Release Date: 11/28/2008 7:31 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '92 4matic ??
I can;t really answer your question about whether the system was the same or not but I would assume so. They are both E class. I think the take rate for wagons with 4-matic is very high as people tend to use them like SUV's. Especially in Europe.The system was changed for the 210 series and is supposedly much more reliable. My wagon has 125k miles with no problems to date. On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 9:32 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Ralph. This car is up around 130-140,000 miles I think. It's a sedan too. Were the systems different, or was it just a case of more wagons being sold with the system, so more wagons to break? Thanks again, Ed 300E 2008/11/28 Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Most of the conversations I have read concerned the 4-matic wagons. They mostly seemed to need a rebuilt around 75K miles. If the car has a rebuilt transfer case than they were fine. If it hasn't been rebuilt yet than beware. I'm pretty sure this info came from Marshall. Ralph W. On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its the same sort of tank like used on the SLS for a wagon. Its on the drivers side, behind the headlight in that area. E M wrote: Thanks Kaleb. Where is the tank located? Ed 300E 2008/11/28 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it doesnt have any fluid in the hydraulic tank, the case is probably bad. Other than that I dont know. The 104 started in 90 in the 300CE, was never offered in the 4 matic. E M wrote: Hi guys, I have a '92 300E 4matic lined up to look at this weekend. I've heard to watch out for problems with the transfer case. Any signs to watch for to indicate a bad case? It's a dealer car, and it has some records, so the guy is trying to dig up what history he can. Car has about 230,000 kms, with all emissions and safety done. He's asking $3900 for it. When did the 104 engine start, was it '93 ? Any thoughts or advise appreciated. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1818 - Release Date: 11/28/2008 7:31 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see
[MBZ] Head for my OM602
Hello Listers,As some of you may remember my 90' 2.5L 300D has a bad head and I need to replace it or the engine. Well I haven't given it or my cars much thought since I've been living in Mexico for the last 2 months. The car is at my Indies and fortunately he is a good guy and friend. I've occasionally Googled used engines and haven't found much. There is a close one in Ohio but the PnP wants $2500 for it. I think this is too much for an engine with 200k on it. I recently saw a head for sale. MB #602.016 1201. Anybody know if this head would fit my car. Listing only says OM602 engine. I think a similar but slightly larger engine is in Sprinter vans. I'll be home for the Holidays and need to make a decision on what to do with the vehicle. By the way MB's seem to be few and far between here in Mexico, both new and old. I did actually see a very old 190D the other day. It was moving very slow. Looked like early 60's vintage. TIA. -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '90 300D update - What to do now?
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I cant believe you could even find a used engine at any price. car-parts.com has some listed but most are $2k and above. I have heard that new heads are very expensive. $3k or more. If anybody comes across a cheap head or engine please let me know. I'm in no hurry at this point. RW ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '90 300D update - What to do now?
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Ralph, are you here in Michigan? All of a sudden, that 190DT with the blown B2 piston, leaky heater core, and cracked windshield looks like a bargain at $1025. Too bad I didn't bid on it last spring. Yes, I'm north of Detroit. -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '90 300D update - What to do now?
Hi All, Perhaps you remember the issues I've had with my '90 2.5L turbo (225K). I was fairly sure I had a head gasket issue but also a loud knocking noise from possibly lower in the engine. I decided to have my Indy proceed with removing the head and replacing the head gasket. Unfortunately the head gasket was fine and the head was cracked in three places near the injectors. I'm now in the position of either replacing the engine with a used engine or finding a good head. PNP's seem to be asking around $2500 for engines. I'm not sure were to find a reasonably priced head. The car is in great shape and has had a recent rear end rebuild. I'm really in a quandry as to how to proceed. As you can see by my signature line I have plenty of transportation. I'm also being forced by my company to work in our Mexican office for possibly up to six months so I really have no need for any cars for a while. Thoughts and comments would be appreciated. And NO I'm not taking $500 from Kleb at this point. -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In search of...G-05
Mitch, I think the last time I bought some was from Murray's in the Detroit burb's. They are a mid-west outfit. Maybe there is one near you. Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
Someone is obligated to check it out. Even a beaten wagon as a backup vehicle can be very handy. Quite a bit of room when the seats are folded down. This is my favorite diesel. Much nicer than the 2.5 turbo. Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 AWD wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD - Original Message - From: Frederick W Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD At 12:32 PM 12/31/2007, you wrote: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/524215637.html Seems too cheap -Curt Curt et al.. I thought so too. Though it would be nice to have a good one. Fred Moir Lynn MA 85 300TD 87 190DT Bent ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Photography, was - The death of high fidelity
Are you back in Toronto for the Holiday's or off in some other more exotic local. - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Photography, was - The death of high fidelity I don't remember the number on my low-end Fuji. I still have it but it's in the UK. 4.1 megapixel. Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] oil leaks
Hello All, I'm trying to track down some oil leaks in my 87 300TD. This is the wagon I bought from Jeff Zedic about a year ago. I think one leak may be from the vacuum pump. Jeff had recently replaced this and perhaps the gasket was installed incorrectly. Can the vacuum pump be a significant source of oil? My leaks are very bad. I also seem to be seeing alot of oil coming from around the driver side engine mount. Anyone got any idea where the exact leak would be coming from. I don't think the bracket for the mount has a gasket. I would assume it just mounts to the block. TIA. Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 AWD wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oil leaks
Hey Jeff, Nice to see you're still on the list. I hadn't seen you post in a while so I wondered if you were still around. Sounds like I have one source of leakage tracked down to the vacuum pump. I don't think that it is the major source however. I had powerwashed the engine last week and put it on my friends hoist. Haven't driven it much since. I just looked at the engine again today and am seeing major oil leaks at the engine mount bracket. I don't think the IP would be wicking oil to that area. I wonder if the oil filter canister could be wicking oil there. The canister is really barried and I can't get a good look at it because of the location of the starter. On another note the tranny finally died a few months ago. I found a local 87 sedan with a ruined engine, due to a bad head, sitting in a salvage yard. Owner of the yard insisted the tranny was good. Had 225k on the clock. I took my chances and bought it for $300. A friend who messes with tranny's on the side installed it for another $250. It's run great so far, like new. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Aside from the leaks the only problem is when the car sits for a while and it's cold I get tons of smoke at startup for a few minutes. Then all is well and engine runs very strong. Not bad for 300K on the clock. I have to get these leaks fixed. I'm making a mess of the street out front of my house. My neighbor has a shop and hoist and is constantly offering to let me use it. I think I'm embarrassing him. - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] oil leaks Ralph, I've always suspected the injection pump to be producing a leak on the engine. Also, yes full disclosure, the vacuum pump gasket is not 100% seated correctly. I didn't notice this until AFTER everything was re-installed and running!! At the time it was not leaking so I just left it and thanked my lucky stars. I think you'll see the green gasket if you look at the left hand side of the cover near the 10 o'clock position?? Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300D 2.5 update and questions
Hello All, I'm still having some issues with the '90 300D 2.5 Turbo. I've solved most of the loudness and shake at idle. Simple solution. Replace the motor mounts! What an amazing difference. I still have a knocking noise which my indy thinks is a bad wrist pin. He has had all his mechanic buddies who have ventured to his place listen to the engine and they all suggested the same source for the noise. Consensus is also to just let it go as they also claim they've never seen one actually break in a diesel. Anyone have other thoughts? Car has 220k. The other issue my indy is trying to sort out is lack of power. Seems turbo isn't working. I had discussed this with the group earlier. One thing we found was that the vacuum pod on the trubo, which is the closer of the two to the front of the car, seems to leak. Is this the one for the wastegate? It will hold initial pressure but slowly leak down over about a 6 second time span. Is this normal or does it need replacement. Part costs $140 so it's not a no brainer replacement. TIA Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (parts car) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues
Hello All, I've been following the recent 2.5 threads with some interest. My '90 2.5 has some been very sluggish lately. Limp mode is a bit overstated but I would say I'm not getting any help from the turbo. Mileage on the car is still around 29 MPG. I must also note that I believe I have a head gasket issue. Usual signs of oil in rad and anti-freeze usage. I have been somewhat successfully fighting this issue for the last 40,000 miles with Irontite. The car idles horrendously loud and shaky. Sounds like a big pickup truck. Engine sounds fine after about 900 rpm. I've done a diesel purge with no noticeable improvement. I'm sure mine has all the computer controlled stuff that the later year models have and was getting lost during the discussion on what all the vacuum valves at the air cleaner do. Is there is simple diagnostic check to see if the sensors which activate the turbo are working. The valve which activates the flap on the turbo (wastegate?) holds vacuum and activates the flap.Any suggestions on any of these issues would be of great help. I'm hesitant of going to the expense of fixing the head gasket while the car still gets me around fairly well. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (parts car) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues
Thanks guys. A little dose of reality from the group is helpful some times. I've had my head in the sand for a while on this head gasket thing. I have had coolant loss and white smoke at idle but the Irontite seems to have stopped that temporarily. My wife won't drive the car due to the loud idle and it's even getting to me. I guess it's time for a talk with the Indy. As far as the lack of performance goes, I've run a fair bit of fuel through the vehicle recently so I think it's good. The fuel filter was changed about 15k ago (two years) when I did have a fuel issue. I guess a change is easy enough to do as I have a filter handy. Can the large filter have issues even when the clear one is clean? You also have a vacuum transducer controlled waste gate -- check that one, and the EGR transducer as well, since if either is not working, the boost will be shut off. How does one check these transducers? Are you referring to the vacuum actuators on the Turbo or the ones near the air cleaner? Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (parts car) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues
once its warmed up. As for checking the sensors, you will need to read thru the 178 or so page EDS diagnostic to figure that out. Kaleb, I was hoping you'd have that all figured out by now. It has been a few days since that thread. What have you been doing? ;) Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (parts car) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FS: 123 wagon hitch
I've got a light duty hitch left from my recently parted out 123 wagon. It attachs to the bumper and body and can haul smaller trailers. If anyone is interested please e-mail me off list and I can send some pics. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (parts car) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wanted: 124 drivers door window motor
Hello All, My '90 300D needs a used window mechanism for the drivers door. The half moon plate with teeth needs to be replaced as the teeth which are engaged by the motor gear are missing at the top of the stroke. The motor is fine. I don't know if the mechanism can be taken apart or if I need the entire assembly. Please let me know if anybody has one. Kaleb perhaps? Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (parts car) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wanted: 124 drivers door window motor
I need a replacement as several teeth are sheared off. I just checked EBAY and it appears there is a good selection there. They offer assemblies minus the motor. Seems almost too cheap. I wonder if I would regret it. Rusty's site is asking for $127 and some outfit called Carpartswhole wants $25 for some aftermarket version. Any thoughts? Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (parts car) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wanted: 124 drivers door window motor I don't know on the newer ones, but on my TD the BIG rivets holding that piece sheared so it was flopping. I took it all apart and bolted it up, has worked now for a few years. If it is the same, you would have to drill those rivets and then bodge up a redo as I did. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT
Nice wagon. It's a dead ringer for mine except my interior is a lighter beige Tex. Not to brag or anything but I got mine from Jeff Zedic for $2400. I added some foam inserts from MB to the front seats to stiffenen them up a bit. Worked well. Joe did that as well I believe. I saw a factory hitch on Ebay.de the other day for 100 Euro. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (parts car) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT Joe Knight wrote: Excellent score, John! Was it part of an estate sale or what? What of the other 2 examples in that 1st pic? Nope, on a whim picked up an autotrader and saw an ad for it. Guy who owned it was a horse trainer, and needed a pickup instead. The other two are my '79 300SD (294k) and the 190D (204k) I bought off of Kaleb. The SD has a cracked piston though... so its not being driven outside of my driveway (it still runs!). How's your wagon doing? IIRC, you found a factory hitch for it... do you know where I might be able to find one as well? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83 TD...Tranny quit...HELP!!!!
Your symptoms at first sounded like a broken torque converter but if the tranny has a little bit of power than it is not what happened to my 240D. Basically I was at a light and went to take off when nothing happened. Engine was fine but the car would not move forward or back. It turned out that the torque converter has a couple of ears which engage into the tranny which sheared off. Thus the torque convert would just spin. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (parts car) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 83 TD...Tranny quit...HELP I had Toni hold the brake, put the car in gear and rev it up a bit while I watched the driveshaft for movement..It tries to turn itBasically, the tranny is attempting to move the car but is not capable. How hard is it to inspect this mischeivous B2 piston? Can it be done still in the car? Mike
Re: [MBZ] 82 or 3 TD 3rd seat ?'s
I just sold my other parts wagon which still had the third row seat. Easy to install. I added it to the wagon when it was still running. I did not however have shoulder belts. I was able to rig up some lap belts. I can contact the new owner and see if he is willing to sell. Let me know. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (parts car) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] 82 or 3 TD 3rd seat ?'s Can I add the third row seat to any TD? Does anyone have one with seatbelts and hardware they would like to part with? The wagon I found is brown with a tanish interior, kinda yellowy tanIs that palomino? I'm not real picky on color as long as it's in decent shape. I need to get something that will haul all of us(7) and get decent mileage. Gas and diesel are killing me at $3.12 a gallon and only getting 7-8 and 12 MPG.
Re: [MBZ] 124 blower motor - Kaleb?
Depending on how easy it is to access, one can get good results from oiling it. -- Jim Jim, I have heard that others were able to fix theirs with some oil. It looks like lots of work to access the motor so I figure I'd rather replace with a known good unit than take my chances with oil and have to pull the unit again in 6 months. Mercedesshop has a nice writeup on the process. Used blowers go for about $70 plus shipping on EBAY. I just figured I'd try Kaleb and the list before I go the Ebay route. New is still a bit pricey. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD
[MBZ] 124 blower motor - Kaleb?
This request is directed to Kaleb but if he isn't able to help I'd be interested in someone else stepping forward. I'm in need of a replacement blower motor for my '90 300D. The squeeking at low speed is now intolerable and I'm looking to replace it. I need the non-dust filter model. If anyone has one please let me know. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr 13 02:57:45 2007 Received: from mail.atlasok.com ([70.184.24.3]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HcByq-0006UJ-GL for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 02:57:45 + Received: (qmail 2293 invoked by uid 508); 12 Apr 2007 21:57:52 -0500 Received: from 70.184.21.138 by mail2.atlasok.com (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED], uid 508) with qmail-scanner-2.01st (clamdscan: 0.90rc2/2954. spamassassin: 2.x. perlscan: 2.01st. Clear:RC:1(70.184.21.138):. Processed in 0.033962 secs); 13 Apr 2007 02:57:52 - Received: from 70-184-21-138.atlasok.com (HELO [192.168.1.101]) (70.184.21.138) by mail.atlasok.com with SMTP; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:57:51 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:00:10 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 blower motor - Kaleb? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 02:57:46 - I dont have one Ralph W wrote: This request is directed to Kaleb but if he isn't able to help I'd be interested in someone else stepping forward. I'm in need of a replacement blower motor for my '90 300D. The squeeking at low speed is now intolerable and I'm looking to replace it. I need the non-dust filter model. If anyone has one please let me know. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 steering pump rebuild
More out of curiousity than need, I got the pulley off my pump and dug out the seal. Rubber is hard as a rock. New seal is $3.50 from Rusty. Should be a cinch to pound back in. Probably less time consuming than finding another pump. I'll let you know if the fix fails. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 steering pump rebuild used pumps are so cheap that trying to rebuild one yourself is a waste of time. Ralph W wrote: My pump in the '83 coupe is leaking out the shaft. Anyone done this rebuild? Is it as simple as getting a pully puller and pulling the pully and replacing a seal. I have an old spare pump but this is the second leaky pump I've encountered and would like a long term fix if it's easy to do. TIA Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] columbus CL 300CD
I'm pretty sure it was late '81 when MB added the turbo. Definitely available in '82. I had an '81 parts coupe which I drove around a bit before parting out. It actually wasn't too bad. Nothing like a 240! If this one is rust free and has a straight body and the mileage is accurate it would be worth the garage queen treatment. I love mine but the body has been through several accidents making it unworthy of collector status. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] columbus CL 300CD A 79 would be non turbo-right? When was the first turbo CD? This is tempting. Dwight
[MBZ] 123 steering pump rebuild
My pump in the '83 coupe is leaking out the shaft. Anyone done this rebuild? Is it as simple as getting a pully puller and pulling the pully and replacing a seal. I have an old spare pump but this is the second leaky pump I've encountered and would like a long term fix if it's easy to do. TIA Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 31 17:56:51 2007 Received: from bay0-omc1-s33.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.105]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HXhop-00028o-Da for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:56:51 + Received: from hotmail.com ([65.55.140.26]) by bay0-omc1-s33.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:56:45 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:56:45 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 71.115.29.72 by BAY135-DAV16.phx.gbl with DAV; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:56:44 + X-Originating-IP: [71.115.29.72] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:57:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2007 17:56:45.0910 (UTC) FILETIME=[F2934760:01C773BD] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: [MBZ] Bargain CL SEC In St. Louis X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:56:52 - http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/303664385.html If I had a trailer and room to work on it and store it, I'd buy it myself. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 31 17:58:06 2007 Received: from bay0-omc2-s12.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.148]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HXhq2-0002Cm-Dd for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:58:06 + Received: from hotmail.com ([65.55.140.15]) by bay0-omc2-s12.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:58:00 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:58:00 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 71.115.29.72 by BAY135-DAV5.phx.gbl with DAV; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:57:58 + X-Originating-IP: [71.115.29.72] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:58:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2007 17:58:00.0709 (UTC) FILETIME=[1F28B350:01C773BE] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: [MBZ] KC '83 300SD X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:58:06 - http://kansascity.craigslist.org/car/303675156.html Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 31 18:05:45 2007 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.250]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HXhxR-00031g-JJ
Re: [MBZ] dexron III/mercon to Mobil 1 ATF transition
Chris, I have successfully switched over 4 relatively high mileage MB's to M1 ATF. The 5th vehicle was another story. My '87 wagon has 290K on the clock and a less than perfect tranny. Upon buying the car in December from Jeff Zedic I replaced the trans filter and switched to M1 ATF. The tranny did not like it. Suddenly lots of flaring between 2-3 and confused downshifting. My indy suggested switching back to standard fluid and adding some Lucas. The tranny now has nice snappy shifts and the car has increased power. My advice is to try it but keep my story in the back of your mind if something goes array. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:16 PM Subject: [MBZ] dexron III/mercon to Mobil 1 ATF transition I am coming up on a major maintenance and wonder if there is any reason not to convert from dexron iii/mercon (which is what the 300SD has been getting for as long as I know) to Mobil 1 ATF? caveats? potential problems? benefits?
[MBZ] M1 15W-50 at Costco
I know you all hate oil threads but sorry I just have to pass this on. I was at Costco today and they had M1 15W-50 on the shelf. $30 for 6 quart boxes. This was the recently re-released non-extended life stuff. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 30 00:42:18 2007 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.169]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HX5C6-0001X2-1k for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:42:18 + Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so654522uge for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.192.1 with SMTP id p1mr520033waf.1175215329787; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.235.19 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:42:09 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] finding a wife X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:42:18 - Roger uses AOL... 'nuff said. On 3/29/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, Mobil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sure is nice to have a delete key on your computer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] finding a wife Just how long is all this Dear Abby advice going to go on? I'm beginning to pine for the usual Kleb Ebay links, God help me. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rear suspension links
I just had the entire rear end of my 124 rebuilt. Drives and handles like new. By 200k miles the rear end was getting dangerous. All over the road especially when it could track grooves in the pavement. The rear tire wear was also out of control. The subframe mounts and the bushing (not sure what it's called) at the wheel seemed to be the most wore out. Do the whole job and get it right. Will hopefully be the last time you have to touch it. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD
Re: [MBZ] Leaky IP
Kaleb, I've had most of the cars for a while now. I just recently got the '87 wagon from Jeff Zedic before he crossed the pond. I changed the tranny filter and put M1 ATF in and the tranny went to hell along with engine power. Indy suggested going back to standard fluid and try some Lucas. It's like a different vehicle now. Flares have gone to snappy shifts and car seems much more powerful. I was considering dumping it but will now keep it. Indy is now fixing rusted out jacking points. As far as the two 123 parts wagons, one was also from Zedic about three years ago. The other was my wifes before I got into a front end collision with it. I'm just about done parting them both out and sending them on. One to the salvage yard and the other to a new owner with more space to store a nice rust free body. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky IP Im sure somebody has them, I do not off the top of my head. BTW, when did you start accumulating cars? You seem to have quite the heard. Notice you have a 87 300TD, how is that doing? Dont remember you getting that.
Re: [MBZ] Leaky IP
Thanks Loren! Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD
[MBZ] Leaky IP
I am looking for some wisdom on how to stop a diesel leak in the IP of my '90 2.5L. Fuel is leaking out the top of the pump at the base of the threaded fitting which the injector lines are threaded on. These fittings seem to be held in place by some flat metal plates which are bolted down to the top of the IP. The leak is definitely welling up from the pump and not from the threaded nut of the lines. Can someone please give me some insight in what I may find if I start dismantling things? Is there some sort of gasket which is leaking? TIA. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Mar 25 22:04:14 2007 Received: from mail.atlasok.com ([70.184.24.3]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HVaow-0005Dc-7o for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:04:14 + Received: (qmail 31452 invoked by uid 508); 25 Mar 2007 17:04:16 -0500 Received: from 70.184.20.70 by mail2.atlasok.com (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED], uid 508) with qmail-scanner-2.01st (clamdscan: 0.90rc2/2257. spamassassin: 2.x. perlscan: 2.01st. Clear:RC:1(70.184.20.70):. Processed in 0.033787 secs); 25 Mar 2007 22:04:16 - Received: from 70-184-20-70.atlasok.com (HELO [192.168.1.101]) (70.184.20.70) by mail.atlasok.com with SMTP; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:04:16 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:05:56 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky IP X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:04:14 - its the delivery valve seals, requires a special tool and special instructions. Ralph W wrote: I am looking for some wisdom on how to stop a diesel leak in the IP of my '90 2.5L. Fuel is leaking out the top of the pump at the base of the threaded fitting which the injector lines are threaded on. These fittings seem to be held in place by some flat metal plates which are bolted down to the top of the IP. The leak is definitely welling up from the pump and not from the threaded nut of the lines. Can someone please give me some insight in what I may find if I start dismantling things? Is there some sort of gasket which is leaking? TIA. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaky IP
Does that mean I have to visit my favorite certified MB mechanic? Any idea where I can get the special instructions and picture of the tool? Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky IP its the delivery valve seals, requires a special tool and special instructions. Ralph W wrote: I am looking for some wisdom on how to stop a diesel leak in the IP of my '90 2.5L. Fuel is leaking out the top of the pump at the base of the threaded fitting which the injector lines are threaded on. These fittings seem to be held in place by some flat metal plates which are bolted down to the top of the IP. The leak is definitely welling up from the pump and not from the threaded nut of the lines. Can someone please give me some insight in what I may find if I start dismantling things? Is there some sort of gasket which is leaking? TIA. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mobile 1
Since we're talking M1 again I thought I would mention that Murray's Auto has it on sale. They are in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois,etc and have been carrying TDT since it came out in Qt containers. It's on sale for $4.99 instead of $5.99. I've been checking local Walmarts and have yet to see gallon jugs of TDT. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] mobile 1 OK, so today walmart has the 5 quart 15w50, doesnt say extended performance. Also have 4qt in stock turbo diesel truck for 23 something. The 15w40 was 22 something for 5 quarts. Is the TDT still the same as delvac 1. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Chrysler
Just wait until the Challenger comes out.. I checked it out at the Chicago Auto Show and if it looks anything like the prototype they'll have a winner on their hands I can assure you that the production version will be very true to the concept vehicle. Ralph W. Currently engineering a good portion of the body panels on the Challenger.
Re: [MBZ] Convertible?
I guess I stand corrected.CLK class has a convertable. If you are referring to the Bentley Continental GTC I guess I'd have to agree. Now if we are talking affordable you can pick up a nice used CLK convertible for under 20k these days. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Convertible? Bill, Being an MB fan I'm surprised you would ask this. The CL Class is a hardtopand they also make a convertible version. Nicest 4 person converrible out there in my opinion. Ralph, Being an MB fan I'm surprised you would say this. There has never been a factory built production CL convertible. And as to the nicest convert, wel, I'd suggest the current Bentley might fit that bill. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drive shaft removal steps, 85 300TD
Hey Harry this is about the fifth time it's come through to the list! Are you not seeing your posts? Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drive shaft removal steps, 85 300TD I moved it from the sent mail to the inbox to try again. Harry On 2/5/07, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3rd try to run this out of my barn. Harry On 2/5/07, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to Peter and others, the job was made easy. While its fresh on my mind, I'll share the steps I took. Keep in mind that this is an 85 300TD and I've no experience with other models. I have the paper manual and read the procedure before hand, however, more than one model was covered and I got a little confused. Peter's answers were not confusing and all went smoothly after his input. 1. Remove the exhaust system from the transmission to the bumper. Two bolts with nuts, ½ socket and ½ box end. Four rubber donuts, all near the bumper, I left one donut attached to hold up that end while I removed the flange connection. I used a screwdriver and a wiggle to separate the pipe. Lowered it to the floor and pushed it clear. The manual spoke of an exhaust baffle that mine did not have. I pre Kroil everything I work on but there is very little rust under this car and it probably was not needed. 2. I supported the transmission with a large piece of wood and a small floor jack, then removed the transmission rear support plate and mount. Four bolts going straight up, 11/16' socket. One nut above the rubber mount, ¾, I used a flex gear wrench. 3. Disconnect the front flex disk. I removed the three bolts (5/8 socket) and nuts (11/16' box end) that left the disk attached to the transmission. I had to rotate the drive shaft once to gain access to the third bolt. The rear wheels were on ramps with a large floor jack left under the differential. I raised the rear just enough to turn the wheels. I ended up doing this again with the rear disk, so next time I'll remove bolts front and rear, then rotate the shaft only one time to gain access. I then used a tire tool to force the shaft to the rear and clear of the transmission. 4. Remove the center bearing support bolts (two). ½ short socket with a 6 wobble extension. Both are straight up, but one side needs a little wobble to get a good fit. 5. Disconnect the parking brake equalizer mechanism. I removed the spring by inserting the tire tool in the coil as a handle and gained enough slack to remove it and the V wire anchor. Needle nose pliers were used to remove a tiny cotter key from a small pin that released the cable coming from the cab. Now there was enough slack to remove the lever and one of the brake shoe cables to let everything swing clear. 6. There is a welded plate across the shaft tunnel that keeps the shaft supported up front until you are ready to slide it out to the rear. At this point, I used bailing wire to secure the two shaft ends together so there was no chance of separation until I had it out and marked for exact rematch. 7. Remove the rear disk. Same as the front, I left the disk on the differential. I forced it forward with the tire tool, dropped it down and slid it to the rear and out. I should have left it on the shaft for easier replacement on the bench. (oh well) Hopefully there are folks that will chime in to make this easier. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '81 300 CD in Jacksonville
Bill, Being an MB fan I'm surprised you would ask this. The CL class is a hardtop and they also make a convertable version. Nicest 4 person covertable out there in my opinion. Hardtops are getting harder to execute these days due to stringent roof crush requirements by the Feds. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '81 300 CD in Jacksonville Yes, that is the first thing I would think of also, but for a 'sports car' style where one expects to see a soft top and maybe a hard top, the mention of a hard top brings to mind that as an option with the soft top. Does anyone make a hard top anymore? I had a '73 Caprice 4 door hardtop you could get into quicker with a coat hanger than with the keys ... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 6:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '81 300 CD in Jacksonville i'm surprised you guys don't know what hardtop means? that is old guy speak for lacking a b pillar. to explain further: you notice when you roll down all the windows in your 300D, it is not all air, but there is pillar right in the middle of your view that if you thought about you'd wish would go away?. that's your B pillar and a hardtop don't have that. makes me yearn for a 70s sedan de ville. On 2/5/07, Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hard Top Is it removable without a hacksaw??? DWS Billr wrote: FYI - Didn't give the mileage. Any interest I could look at it and take pictures, but call him first. My nephew is a local mechanic who is familiar with MB's and works on my 300SD. He could do a once over on it if there is serious interest. BillR 1981 Mercedes Benz 300CD 1981 Mercedes Benz 300CD - Green Ext. with Beige Int.- Body in good condition - Int. needs a little work - Asking $1,500.00 Accessories: Hard Top, Power Steering, Power Windows, Cruise Control, $1,500.00 Name: David Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 904-699-3774 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch
Tim, I have a light duty hitch hitch for sale. It was on my wagon which I am parting out. I can send pictures if you are interested. It mounted to the bumper and the body. Tongue weight was rated at 150lbs with a max pulling capacity of roughly 1500lbs. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch What are the prospects of finding a trailer hitch for a 1984 300TD? Tim 1982 300TD 1991 300TE 4Matic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 rear subframe bushings
Anyone have a writeup or link on doing 124 rear subframe bushings? I saw a 201 writeup on the web but can't find it anymore. TIA, Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 30 04:04:12 2007 Received: from mail.cnsp.com ([208.3.80.17] helo=mail.cnsp.biz) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HBkE8-0005je-GP for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:04:12 + Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cnsp.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E13C44409F for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:03:36 -0700 (MST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cnsp.biz Received: from mail.cnsp.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cnsp.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id XyuNyCpd5yhG for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:03:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from mccluskey.linux (208-3-82-31.cnsp.net [208.3.82.31]) by mail.cnsp.biz (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C0B444ADB1 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:03:35 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:03:34 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody Did Somebody Wrong X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:04:12 - On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:19:10 -0700 Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is kind of odd.can this dude do this? http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/270469359.html Well, he did it. The real point is, Can he get away with it? I'm not an attorney and don't even play one on TV, but it seems he is skating on thin ice. And if craigslist doesn't like it, they can take it down with no recourse to him. Craig
Re: [MBZ] selling my 300D
Sunil, I'd be curious to hear what you end up selling it for. Do you have a price range in mind? As you can see by my signature list I'm swimming in cars again and need to lose a few. My '90 is similar to yours and probably the most valuable other than the wife's gasser '01. It would be nice to put some money in my pocket and sell the 2.5. Craigslist has served me well in the past. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: [MBZ] selling my 300D Selling my 1992 300D 2.5T - it's a fantastic car, but it's too nice for me. My plan is to downgrade to a 240D (the student model for a career student). Basics: 290Kmi, smoke silver (702) exterior, beige MB-Tex interior. Details: Everything works but the rear passenger overhead light. Full records until about 200Kmi. 290Kmi, new transmission at 200Kmi, valve job and timing chain at ~250Kmi, new motor mounts and antenna at 286Kmi. Complete suspension job done at 286Kmi. Completely up to spec, maintenance-item wise (air filter, oil = M1 5w-40, oil filter, transmission fluid and filter, PS fluid and filter, and rear differential oil.) Even has Australian sheepskin seat covers (1 pile, black, might take with me). I have the original Mulrooney sticker - only options were the smoke silver paint and the passenger airbag. Sunroof, monowiper and ACC are perfect. Converted to R-134 refrigerant; A/C works great. New A/C compressor installed in October. Block heater works great. Just put in a new cruise control unit. New rear brakes. I'm the third owner of the car. Bad stuff - two dents on trunk. Couple chips in the windshield. Small door dings on the rear passenger door. No records from 200Kmi - 286Kmi (second owner hasn't mailed me his records). Rear overhead light doesn't work. Front overhead light (one of them) is burned out. Emergency brake doesn't work. MB-Tex is near perfect under the skins - two small gaps in the Tex (not all the way through, just to the backing) in places you wouldn't see them if you weren't looking on the driver's side; passenger seat is perfect. Back seat is perfect. If you don't want them, I can keep the sheepskins. Tires are in fine shape; I'd say around 50-75% left. Just rotated them. I can get tread depths if you want. Becker sounds great; had a new antenna mast put on 5000 miles ago. Everything about it works perfectly. I've had it garaged since I bought it; pictures were taken outdoor for lighting. Pictures at: http://www.sunilhari.com/92%20benz Email me with offers, please. -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Process for installing 30TD's rear suspension struts -THANKS
Harry, You have dibbs. I'll pull them this weekend and make sure they are in good working order and send you a note. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Process for installing 30TD's rear suspension struts -THANKS Hey Ralph I need a left backup light for my 85 TD if yours are not spoken for. Let me know. Harry
Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05)
Werner, Sorry for not being specific enough for you. I assumed the list would understand by what I meant when I referred by name to the stuff most of us have been seeking. I was referring to Mobil 1 5W-40 Turbo Diesel Truck oil - not some no-name dino oil. I have read on this list that this is very similar to Delvac 1. No offense taken. ;) Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05) Ralph - the question was where to get Mobil-1/Delvac-1 - not some no-name dino oil. It always comes to what's more important - the engine longevity, ease of starting, etc., or saving a few bucks on oil. Metal always costs more than oil! Werner - Original Message - From: Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05) A midwest chain called Murray's carries the Turbo Diesel 5W-40. I also saw it for the first time a few weeks back at my local Auto Zone in the Detroit suburbs. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Process for installing 300TD's rear suspension struts
I'm in the process of pulling a set as we speak, if anyone is interested. I've had no takers on my abandoned wagon fix so the parting out process is moving full force ahead. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Process for installing 300TD's rear suspension struts You dont disconnect them thru the spring. They have a cover you remove from inside the car to get at the fittings. Karl Wittnebel wrote: Hardest part is disconnecting the hydraulic fittings through the spring. PITA. Otherwise torx head bolt under the carpet in the rear, just behind rear seat where it folds down. Removal from A-arm is simple. These rarely go bad. Make sure it is not your pump, the check valve, the ride height sensor arm, or the air reservoir things. you can rebuild the valve for next to nothing. There are a bunch of posts on how to test the system. You can even replace the ball joints on the bottom of each cylinder with a special tool, as they sometimes go bad before the rest of the unit. Karl Wittnebel -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05)
A midwest chain called Murray's carries the Turbo Diesel 5W-40. I also saw it for the first time a few weeks back at my local Auto Zone in the Detroit suburbs. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05) Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Allan - its not clear where you are geographically I'm in Indiana. Neither the local Wal-Mart nor Sams stock Delvac-1, nor do they nor AutoZone, PepBoys, etc. carry the Delvac-1 equivalent TSUV Mobil-1 (or if they do, they don't seem to keep much in stock because I've never seen it on the shelf). Nearest truck stop I know of is 50 miles from here. Who is the Mobil distributor who will ship UPS? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 floor heat
Check back early next week. I may have one if my wrecked wagon doesn't sell as a complete vehicle this weekend. The parting out process will begin. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 floor heat Im all out of blower motors at the moment, Kevin J. Slater wrote: I need to do the same in my 87 300TD. Wondering if I can RR like Peter described (I've had the replacement pods for a long time) or whether I'm going to have to do something more difficult to get the failed one(s) out. ...Kevin p.s. Kaleb - do you have a W123 heater blower motor you'd sell? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 floor heat
So I'm a bit confused. How many pods control the floor heat? Is it better to just buy new or alot cheaper to rebuild? I think I'll start by pulling the radio as it's also due for replacement and see what's accessable from there. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 floor heat I need to do the same in my 87 300TD. Wondering if I can RR like Peter described (I've had the replacement pods for a long time) or whether I'm going to have to do something more difficult to get the failed one(s) out. ...Kevin p.s. Kaleb - do you have a W123 heater blower motor you'd sell? Aaron Lam said: Ralph, Fortunately these pods are among the easier ones to replace. Early 87's have two pods (a bit of a PITA to RR because of the pressed on lock washers) and early models have a single pod which unclips easily. They're accessible after removing the climate control unit. -Aaron 1987 300D On 1/16/07, Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone give me an idea where the floor heat vacuum pod lives under the dash of a 124? I've got heat out the side vents and defroster but nothing going to the floor. I'm assuming that the pod for the heat flaps to the floor is bad. Can I get to this without removing the dash. I've fixed a 123 from the side panels. Is the 124 set up the same way? It's too darn cold to drive without floor heat. A hot torso and frostbit legs just doesn't get it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Thank God for Microsoft -- Linus Torvalds ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 floor heat
Can anyone give me an idea where the floor heat vacuum pod lives under the dash of a 124? I've got heat out the side vents and defroster but nothing going to the floor. I'm assuming that the pod for the heat flaps to the floor is bad. Can I get to this without removing the dash. I've fixed a 123 from the side panels. Is the 124 set up the same way? It's too darn cold to drive without floor heat. A hot torso and frostbit legs just doesn't get it. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jan 17 02:14:23 2007 Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.48]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H70Jj-RT-3v for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 02:14:23 + Received: from WFlaptop ([141.150.235.227]) by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:09:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:06:52 -0500 From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] front lug bolts 300SDL X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 02:14:23 - Tom - I can't see how the slight over torque and over stretch on a lubed thread can be anywhere near as destructive as greatly exceeding the bolt and thread strength with 2x or 3x torque levels. Werner - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] front lug bolts 300SDL Dave, It's not that they'll fall off, they won't. It's that the grease reduces friction actually causes you to over torque the bolts or nuts, causing the bolts or studs to over stretch. This weakens them. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] front lug bolts 300SDL I've been greasing the lug nuts/bolts on all my cars for the last 40 years. Haven't had one fall off yet. I use anti-seize now because it is more politically correct that lithium grease. Same idea though. I do check that they are snug now and then. -Dave Walton
Re: [MBZ] 124 floor heat
Is there anything tricky about removing the console and ACC cover. I just don't want to screw up the wood. I have to pull the seats to do the seat upgrade anyway so I should have great access to the console. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 floor heat Console (radio, ACC pusbutton unit, console cover) has to come out to get to it. It's on the front side of the heater box, I don't think you can change it with the console in place. You can change all but the servo inside the heater box with the console and underside dash covers off, it's worth it. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 Mercedes Benz Turbo - $800
Boy it sure would be nice to have a donor car available when working on the new wagon! Kaleb, come get this thing before I do something stupid. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:38 PM Subject: [MBZ] 87 Mercedes Benz Turbo - $800 http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/263637591.html Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 alarm problems
The alarm in my '87 300TD seems to have a mind of it's own every day or two the alarm will go off for no apparent reason. Does anyone know what causes this? As an alternative how can I disable the alarm? I really don't need an alarm on a 20 year old car where I live. I checked the fuse box and couldn't find any mention of the alarm. Does it have it's own fuse somewhere alse? Any info would be appreciated by my neighbors. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jan 14 02:40:05 2007 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.174]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H5vHw-0003Dl-Pl for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 02:40:05 + Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so983808uge for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:36:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.146.11 with SMTP id t11mr596893hud.1168742018363; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:33:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.136.1 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:33:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:33:38 -0800 From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 alarm problems X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 02:40:05 - I disabled mine long ago. Remove your passenger side front mat, and lift up the plastic/metal(?) plate at the front of the footwell. Under that, you should see an electric box with a Becker tag on it. Simply remove the plug to this unit, and the problems should be resolved. I think the problems you're experiencing are due to some issues with your drivers side door lock. I suspect that if you were to install a remote locking setup, this would no longer be an issue. YMMV On 1/13/07, Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The alarm in my '87 300TD seems to have a mind of it's own every day or two the alarm will go off for no apparent reason. Does anyone know what causes this? As an alternative how can I disable the alarm? I really don't need an alarm on a 20 year old car where I live. I checked the fuse box and couldn't find any mention of the alarm. Does it have it's own fuse somewhere alse? Any info would be appreciated by my neighbors. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) '89 Audi 90Q (202k) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
[MBZ] '87 300TD
I' trying to track down a nasty oil leak. Jeff Zedic mentioned that he thought the lift pump leaked which I assumed would be a diesel leak. The leak seems to be coming from the IP side of the engine near where the engine mount bracket is bolted to the block. Are there any common leaks on these engines? Does anyone have any thoughts as to where this leak is likely coming from? Thanks in advance. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Dec 27 20:10:18 2006 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.172]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gzf6P-wm-Nz for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 20:10:18 + Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so3798028uge for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:07:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.170.17 with SMTP id s17mr1548064hue.1167250049736; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:07:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.184.13 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:07:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:07:29 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] license plate fun X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 20:10:18 - Actually, I was focussed on the gas models because of the 280 lead in. I could NEVER forget the indomitable concours and autocross-winning Pnzrwgn. On 12/27/06, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, You forgot the W116 300SD. From '92, until I sold it this year I had the Vanity Plate PNZRWGN in both VA and AZ.. Wonderful car and truly bulletproof.. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ Kailua HI (til 1/6) On Dec 27, 2006, at 5:59 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Did you mean 450SEL? I recall a W116 450SE and 450SE L (1973 - 1980) 280S (1975 - 1976), and 280SE (1977-1980) as US models... On 12/27/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This discussion has me seriously considering getting the license plate I have wanted for years. Do any of you remember the 1980's soap opera on Friday night - Dallas. I remember as a kid (I was only 7 when it came out in 1979-80) I would watch it with my older brother and mother every Friday night. A friend of mine was talking about the show and he said he had the first 5 seasons on DVD. My wife and I immeadiately watched 1-2 episodes 3-4 times a week. She did not know who shot JR (before watching the episode). JR Ewing drove a 116 (280 SEL) in the first couple of seasons. Then he got a 126 (LWB). So, I think the plate I want is: EWING 3 JR was the bad guy, but he always got what he wanted and he was such a compelling character. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 133K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Holy Photos Batman!
Wow, compared to this one I got the deal of the century on Zedic's wagon. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holy Photos Batman! Mileage 239 K Asking price is $9750 Patrick is the sales rep No records
Re: [MBZ] Salvage yards in California and Oregon
Craig, Sounds like you're trying to avoid shipping. If not I have two brand new fenders and a hood for a 123 from my abandoned wagon repair which I need to sell. I got them wholesale and just want my money back. Shipping may be expensive. I got them from a local wharehouse. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 11:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] Salvage yards in California and Oregon I'm going to be driving out there and want to find a W123 hood and right front fender in good condition. Anyone have any suggestions where? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 seat bottoms
Great info Joe. Good to see you posting again. That explains why the seats in the '87 feel so much different than the'90. Dave also has a couple of nice pics on his website of the foam blocks. I assume I can get them from Rusty? I wonder if they will completely cure my problem. I seem to sink into the rear center of the seat. Could there be broken springs similar to what happens on 123 seats? Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD
[MBZ] 124 seat bottoms
Anybody know if seat bottoms on a 124 power seat are as easily interchanged as on 123's? My new wagon is in serious need of a rebuild. Zedic probably didn't notice it as I probably weigh 60 lbs more than he does. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Dec 19 03:04:59 2006 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.170]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GwVHm-0006p6-WC for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 03:04:59 + Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so1539289uge for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:02:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.171.13 with SMTP id t13mr3049718hue.1166497333977; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:02:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.165.15 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:02:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:02:13 -0500 From: Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] craptastic crackhead X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 03:04:59 - mismatched panels, wrong year, wrong model description http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/car/249800472.html ...and if you act now, lots of Rust!
Re: [MBZ] New wagon
How was your experience at US Customs. Hope they treated you well. Actually it was quite pleasant, however, they wouldn't give me the necessary customs paper work I need to title it in Michigan. I need to provide them with a letter from MB saying the car meets all US regulations. The officer said I could take the car home and come back to the border when I get the letter. I'm going to call MB on Monday. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD
Re: [MBZ] New wagon
I guess I missed Jeff selling his wagon until Ralph bought it. Oh well, too far away anyways. Jeff never actually posted his wagon. When he announced he was moving to England I inquired as to what he would do with the wagon and we worked out a deal on the side. This is the second wagon I bought from him. When he scrapped his 123 I took it off his hands as a parts car. Thats when I got to see this wagon for the first time. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD
[MBZ] New wagon
So I picked up Zedic's '87 300TD yesterday in Toronto and drove it back to Detroit. Trip went well. I think I'm going to like this vehicle. The 3.0L is quite different than the 2.5L in my '90 124. No noticeable turbo like the 2.5. Jeff left me with a number of unfinished suspension jobs but provided most of the new parts. Should ride like new when I'm done. Good job for the x-mas break. Time to off load the two parts wagons! Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 17 16:46:11 2006 Received: from alnrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.225.94]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gvz9O-0002uF-Tu for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:46:11 + Received: from hannah (c-68-61-93-29.hsd1.mi.comcast.net[68.61.93.29]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc14) with SMTP id 20061217164329b1400miaf3e; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:43:29 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:43:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: [MBZ] 124 blower motor. X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:46:11 - The cirping crickets in the '90 124 have gotton almost unbearable at low blower motor speed. Not noticeable at high speed. So it's either high speed or off these days. How does one access this unit. I've heard it is through the cowl screen on the engine side of the firewall. Is this correct and how easy is it? Can the bearing be fixed or lubed or is a new assy required. Any help would be appreciated. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 17 16:56:03 2006 Received: from twisp.olympus.net ([65.117.224.70]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GvzIx-0003Ad-B0 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:56:03 + Received: from LoricaMail on twisp.olympus.net ([172.21.2.56] helo=twisp.olympus.net) by twisp.olympus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60) id 1GvzGS-0006uL-JU for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 08:53:28 -0800 Received: from tuk-dsl-228-190.olympus.net ([65.117.228.190]:1063 helo=ASUS-A7V400.olympus.net) by twisp.olympus.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.60) id 1GvzGF-0006qT-0k for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 08:53:15 -0800 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 08:52:48 -0800 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com From: Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Virtual-Service: OlympusNet X-Exim-Id: 1GvzGF-0006qT-0k X-Olympus-MailID-CF: 1GvzGF-0006qT-0kDec17085315rPj X-Olympus-Virus: Scanned X-Olympus-OlympusNetMail: Initial processing complete X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marrowstone Island X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:56:04 - We've been here for 30 years, we might know them. Our place in on the south end in the middle of the Isl. Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor -- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:30:45 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marrowstone Island To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: [MBZ] Posted my wagon to eBay
Jeff Zedic's '87 diesel wagon. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Posted my wagon to eBay What are you getting? Ralph W wrote: Since I'm adding to my fleet again this weekend, I will probably be selling a vehicle soon. Either the CD or the '90 sedan. Both nice clean rust free cars from down south. I'm in the Detroit area. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Posted my wagon to eBay
Since I'm adding to my fleet again this weekend, I will probably be selling a vehicle soon. Either the CD or the '90 sedan. Both nice clean rust free cars from down south. I'm in the Detroit area. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Posted my wagon to eBay If you don't mind me asking, what type of money did you need for it? I've decided to try and find two older mercs to replace what my Dad and I currently have as daily drivers. Reading all the posts on the list, I'd like to try a diesel, but two older gasers with proper maintance would be ok too. I was thinking, a wagon, and an older S Class, or a wagon and sedan E Class. If anyone knows of any, in good shape (no rust), and well serviced, please let me know. I'm in the ON Canada area. Willing to pay a fair price for the right cars, but not really interested in projects, especially this time of year. hee hee. I would want to PPI the cars, and I'm not an eBay buyer. Thanks in advance for any help. Zeb
Re: [MBZ] Parts wagon was Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)
BTW, if anyone has a 1981 - 1985 W123 parts car (preferably a wagon) with a palomino interior he's looking for a decent front seats. Andrew, It's funny you should mention that. I've just decided to part out my mint red '82 wagon due to a frontal collision. Southern car, no rust, palamino interior. Good leather drivers seat. Rear seats and third row seat is MB Tex in good condition. I also have a trailer hitch and nice crossbars on the car for sale. Make an offer. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (Two Parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon
Re: [MBZ] used speres was Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)
Your friend's car requires new nitrogen spheres. Marshall The spheres on my parts wagon were only used about 18 months. If interested make an offer. I also had just recently rebuilt the control valve. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon
[MBZ] Carfax anyone?
Hello, I'm off this weekend to pick up an '87 124 diesel wagon courtesy of Jeff Zedic. It's located in the Great White North (Canada) and I will be reimporting it back to the States. I'm interested in the cars history and need documentation to show that it was originally a US spec car for customs purposes. Can anyone help me out. VIN as follows: WDBEB93D8HF032169 Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Dec 13 01:45:54 2006 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.225]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GuJBy-0003d7-H4 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:45:54 + Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h30so28322wxd for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.29.2 with SMTP id c2mr202451agc.1165974228171; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.92.20 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:43:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:43:48 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:45:54 - Congrats! -- take all the credit, leave the work to her parents. On 12/12/06, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Parts wagon was Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)
The wagon is in the Detroit suburbs. Let's make a deal! Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon - Original Message - From: Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parts wagon was Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon) Where is it - I want to buy it. Mike On 12/12/06, Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, if anyone has a 1981 - 1985 W123 parts car (preferably a wagon) with a palomino interior he's looking for a decent front seats. Andrew, It's funny you should mention that. I've just decided to part out my mint red '82 wagon due to a frontal collision. Southern car, no rust, palamino interior. Good leather drivers seat. Rear seats and third row seat is MB Tex in good condition. I also have a trailer hitch and nice crossbars on the car for sale. Make an offer. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (Two Parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon
Re: [MBZ] Parts wagon was Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)
What a bummer that you've now seen two of your wagons reduced to parts! I'm glad that you're going to move up to a W124 300TD. I hope that you get many years of service out of it. Kevin in Hillsboro OR Thanks for your sympathies Kevin. Actually the other parts wagon was bought from Zedic to support my beloved red wagon. As many of you know I got lots of useful parts from that wagon and was in the process of transplanting it's engine into the red one. I had also already purchased new fenders and a hood for the repair. Unfortunately the guy who was going to do the body work noticed enough front rail deflection that would need straightening to make the project cost prohibitive. Thats when we decided parting out was a better option. My 10 year old son and wife are disappointed since a 123 fire engine red wagon is a very unique vehicle these days. Fortunately this deal for Zedic's wagon came along at the right time. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon
Re: [MBZ] 123 Dash
Damn! I sold a pretty nice one to John Gregg for $75. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon
Re: [MBZ] Low miles 83 CD available
I might be willing to trade in my daily driver CD for a lower milage straight rust free version. CD's are easily the most desireable of the 123 breed. More details please. Of course Sunil has first dibs but I'm sure this car is worth more than a measely 2K. Heck it's got at least another 250K left on the clock. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon
[MBZ] OT: Linux recommendations
Sorry for the off topic post but I know there are more than a few of you who love to talk about this kind of stuff. My 10 year old tech geek is dieing to give Linux a try. Can somebody recommend a source to download a copy from. I've done a little research but would appreciate some input from somebody knowledgeable with Linux. TIA. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Sep 30 00:52:53 2006 Received: from mail1.mx.voyager.net ([216.93.66.204]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GTT64-0008At-CP for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:52:53 + Received: from voyager.net (d159.as0.sfld1.mi.core.com [209.153.132.36]) by mail1.mx.voyager.net (8.13.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id k8U0qRY7098171 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:52:26 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: !!AAAYAMcPXSWNNaFAnfjSlYqMSm/[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] License plate placement X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:52:53 - David Brodbeck wrote: That'd net him a fine of $1212, assuming you didn't get caught stealing his plates. ;) No license points, though. Since they can't prove who was driving there's no other penalty -- just a $101 fine. I see, just a tax on the owner with no proof of personal culpability, like a parking ticket. I was thinking it was a traffic offense. Mitch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxylHPnoloI
Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux recommendations
Thanks for the suggestions. I guess I'll check out the Linux list if I have any more questions and leave this list for MB's. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux recommendations We have a linux list btw. http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/linux_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Latest on M1 Availability
Murrays, a midwest mcparts chain, has 5W-40 Turbo Diesel M1. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon
[MBZ] W124 wiper motor
I just came in from a short trip in the '90 300D. It's raining here in Michigan at the moment and I had to run the wipers. When first turning the wiper on it is very slow and takes a few minutes before it seems to operate normally. Is there anything which can be done to fix this problem? Is it a sign of imminent death for the system? How does the mechanism moving the blade up and down work. Is it some sort of hydraulic cylinder? Thoughts and comments would be appreciated. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Aug 27 16:25:50 2006 Received: from 70-184-20-45.atlasok.com ([70.184.20.45] helo=[192.168.0.100]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1GHNSI-0001x7-6w for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:25:50 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:25:48 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D crank position sensor? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:25:50 - Well you all have seen the first one. well at least okieQ people have. The other one will need some work. Its pretty rough around the edges but supposed to run and drive though. OK Don wrote: I might, depending on condition, operation, etc. -- On 8/24/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I have 2 of them now. You got something you want to trade? I might, depending on condition, operation, etc. -- -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] W124 and 16 wheels
I'm looking for some more input on the '90 300D. Some of you may recall me whining about the 16 Kuhmo tires I had on this car. They have since been replaced with a set of Michelin MXV 215/60's. Same issue as with the Kuhmos. Car is all over the road and tracks every little depression. The W124 comes standard with 15 tires so I went back to the original wheels this weekend which have Michilin Pilot Alpine 195/65's on them. Handling of the vehicle is vastly improved to the point where I would say the car has no suspension issues. Has anyone else experienced these symptoms with lower profile 16 tires on a W124? I'm thinking I should just sell the 16 wheels and go back to the old 15 pancakes for good, or is this an early indication that my suspension really needs some work. Thoughts or comments? Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Aug 27 16:37:59 2006 Received: from 70-184-20-45.atlasok.com ([70.184.20.45] helo=[192.168.0.100]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1GHNe2-0003Br-RA for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:37:59 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:37:56 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] rebuilding a W123 front caliper.. X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:37:59 - I do not mess with rebuilding calipers if the pistons are seized. That means they are rusted and that means the surfaces will be shot. If they are simply leaking past the seals, then rebuilding is a good idea. If they are frozen, forget it. Peter Frederick wrote: DO NOT, EVER sand either bore or piston with ANYTHING. If it won't clean up with brake parts cleaner, you need to replace the caliper. Sanding either bore or piston is going to cause them to be out of round and/or too large (or small), and the piston will surely bind and stick. The piston is also chrome plated, and a smooth surface is required for the piston seal (it's NOT an o-ring!) to retract the piston. A rough surface will cause the piston to remain out, and it will also usually cause it to leak brake fluid. Clean piston and bore with lint free cloth and brake parts cleaner. I've never seen anything that didn't come right off with brake parts spray and a rag. Corrosion of bore or piston below the piston seal requires replacement of caliper. Corrosion of the piston above the bore is OK, and you can CAREFULLY clean rust in the bore above the pistons seal with Scocbrite IF you then very completely flush out the caliper. Grit of any kind, sandpaper or Scotchbrite, will cause the piston to stick sooner or later. Peter On Aug 25, 2006, at 3:03 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: wondering if there is a procedure for it in the shop manuals (I'm doubting it since they expect the mechanics using those manuals are experienced) or maybe in the Haynes manual. I'm great a disassembly, but a procedure is always welcome to cover the things that experience teaches. My description _was_ the procedure! The hardest part of the job is getting the pucks out of there. That's why I liked the grease gun idea, it eliminates the scary 'hammer-of-extreme-pain' step with the air compressor that I used to use. Remove rubber sealing caps Remove pucks Remove 'O' rings Carefully wet-sand the bores and the pucks to shiny cleanness Clean and blow-dry entire caliper, passages and all Put in new O rings Put sealing cap on puck Lube bores and pucks with brake fluid and install Snap seals over bores -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 and 16 wheels
The factory designed the car that way for a reason. I don't disagree with you but I know Dave M. has some pretty crazy tire and wheel setups on his W124's and I'm sure he has made it work. Could be his upgraded sway bars, etc
Re: [MBZ] W124 wiper motor
I'll give it a shot. I'm sure it needs to be done regardless of my issue. Any idea if any of this is in the service manual? I couldn't find any reference to wiper motor. REmove the covers and lubricate the gears, track, and sliding pin with good synthetic grease before the motor locks up! I don't remember how they come off, but this is really critical for good operation.
[MBZ] W124 sunroof
Well I guess this is my day for 124 questions. The sunroof on my car works fine but is in obvious need of lubing. I've read all the dire warning of how dificult it is to work on the 124 sunroof. Is there something I can lube and clean without taking the sunroof panel out and screwing something up? I've completely dismantled and repaired 123 systems without any trouble. Am I asking for trouble here? Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Aug 27 17:36:59 2006 Received: from outbound-mail.nyc.untd.com ([64.136.20.164]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GHOZ9-Yv-0I for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:36:59 + Received: from webmail09.nyc.untd.com (webmail09.nyc.untd.com [10.141.27.149]) by smtpout02.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AABCRDYARAM6K9QS for mercedes@okiebenz.com (sender [EMAIL PROTECTED]); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:36:15 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: 0C6GbY645VDLUg+8p3bs1M44op+8T9fbZbmd4OBAFW0KKEReC2pkcg=Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by webmail09.nyc.untd.com (jqueuemail) id LYS2AJGY; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:35:48 PDT Received: from [4.156.234.56] by webmail09.nyc.untd.com with HTTP: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:34:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [4.156.234.56] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Glenn M. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:34:59 GMT To: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-ContentStamp: 1:1:938781877 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.141.27.149|webmail09.nyc.untd.com|webmail09.nyc.untd.com|[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.7.cp2 Subject: [MBZ] Kaleb - I clicked on Switching to Plain Test yesterday and it didn'twork either, thanx. X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:36:59 - This is yet another test to see if the text body of a post shows up, thanx. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Aug 27 17:41:04 2006 Received: from alnrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.225.93] helo=alnrmhc11.comcast.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GHOd6-xx-QD for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:41:04 + Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc13) with ESMTP id 20060827174056b13002tsnde; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:40:57 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:40:56 -0400 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb - I clicked on Switching to Plain Test yesterday andit didn'twork either, thanx. X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:41:05 - Glenn M. Brown wrote: This is yet another test to see if the text body of a post shows up, thanx. YES! -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] W124 and 16 wheels
I think the diffrenece in sidewall height must have a large effect as well. My snow tires are fairly large and compliant. My Indy says he has noticed the same sort of tendencies on other types of cars where larger low profile tires are used over stick setup. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 and 16 wheels I've experienced the same thing with the 17 rims on my 124--really seems to bumpsteer now. I think this setup amplifies and telegraphs suspension flaws much more than the stock rims. I suspect that with a complete suspension rebuild, it would exhibit much less of this negative tendancy.
