Re: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's
I'd be happy to see such. I frequently get interested in a model adn then hear that I should look for one a year or two later because of some design change. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles looking for a reasonable 1996 or later S500 -Original Message- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 23, 2007 12:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's Howdy - We so often seem to go over the same territory over and over again - especially when someone is considering buy a used MB of some type. Common engine problems, problem ACC problems, I'd like to create a database that would show the various vehicles and engines and list their shortfalls - kind of a buyers guide - problem areas - things to watch for - What do ya;ll think? Or perhaps its been tried? Or not worth the effort? Too complicated?? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 220D, syncro van, fox ads
From my experience of owning one of those beasts [named the anti-christ] I would question the assumption that the good lord had anything at all to do with them. I think you have your directions all wrong as far as Vanagons go... BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD, currently getting a rebuilt transmission and LF caliper from Rusty. Ex-owner of a mid 80's sucking Vanagon from down below. -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 22, 2007 6:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 220D, syncro van, fox ads On 9/22/07, Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too bad the syncro isn't a diesel. Why, so it could be even slower? The good Lord intended Vanagons to have Subaru engines in them. http://www.vanaru.com/ Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CarFax, please
Me, yes; her, no. I have failed as an MB parent... BillR -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 19, 2007 10:32 PM To: billr [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] CarFax, please billr wrote: At this point she is looking for either a Voyager or a Corolla [less than $4k]. Now those two sound interchangeable. ;-) I've been told (mainly in the context of eBay) to never buy a car from a FL used car dealer. Maybe private seller isn't as bad. Used Toys and Hondas never seem like a good deal up here in MI. Either they are overpriced or overworn or both. (Sure, I'd love to pay you $3500 for your 1992 Crudolla. Not.) Won't $3500 get you a decent '87 300D or SDL, or a very nice 300E? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: Re: CarFax, please
Kaleb - Don't have your address on this computer. Do you still have Dan's 123LWB?. Guess I should also ask if you have a good vehicle for my daughter and 3 kids [two in car seats[ for @ $3500? I'm thinking transport could be a problem though. BillR -Forwarded Message- From: billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 20, 2007 10:59 AM To: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] CarFax, please No mate at the moment [long story]. Not sure about what Kaleb has, but I would be happier to see her in an MB [one of them saved my life a few years ago: '62 220Sb vs DOA drunk in a Camero]. I'd be willing to travel a bit to get her a safe and dependable one. I'll copy this to Kaleb for his input. The $4500 is a bit out of her price range, though we might be permitted to help a bit [she is an independant sort] for the right car. Just the four of them, though she would prefer all the kids to be in the back seat and two of those in car seats. I have thought about the auction idea - I think a relative does some of that. Problem would be to find one at auction that is a good price and in good shape as she would not be able to afford repairs on anything. Does the Mercury line hold up well? My son is an ex mechanic [mow into computers for the USAF] and he suggested the Voyager / Toyota route. I think an MB wagon or a van would be the best bed for her. Bill -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 20, 2007 9:49 AM To: billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] CarFax, please billr wrote: Isn't a Cougar a 2 door? Yeah, I think it's based on the Mazda 6 coupe. I just happened to think of it because I saw a 2001 with leather and everything for $4500/OBO. It's the only American car that made me look twice and think wow, what's that? in a long time. Only a gymnast could insert/remove a child seat in the back easily. Does she have a mate too? If so, the five of them would not like a Corolla, even a wagon, I bet. Does Kleb still have Dan's 123LWB? Now that's a dependable car with some rear seat room. There's a broad range of minivan sellers, ranging from the ones who want you to pay for their new van, to those who just bought a leather clad SUV and just want to get rid of the van, and now. My ex-boss got his wife a well appointed 2005 Grand Caravan in the summer of 2006, I think it cost him about 12k. Got it from a dealer friend who buys cars at auction and sells them for $500 over cost. I bet if I told him I wanted the best Grand (LWB) Caravan/Voyager/TownCountry that $3000 could buy at auction, I'd have a very good one within a month. Could probably get a very nice Grand Am sedan for less $, but even a 4dr would be a pain with three kids. BTW, there are several decent $4k and under deals in my local paper's Mercury section, including '00 and '03 Sables, a Mystique (Contour) and a '01 Villager(Nissan Quest). The '03 Sable is high miles though. Now that I think about it, $4k would probably get a decent late '90's SLS or STS, or maybe a Lincoln. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Re: CarFax, please
lol. Well. I like it. He is offering me the 420S for my price. That trips my interst. Bill -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 20, 2007 11:28 AM To: billr [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Re: CarFax, please billr wrote: Do you still have Dan's 123LWB?. I know he's still got a picture of it: http://okiebenz.com/MVC-003S.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CarFax, please
My thoughts, also. I took my daughter down to look at it. Turns out the reason it was so cheap is that it wouldn't shift. A bit more looking at the other cars on that lot and she decided to look at private sellers. The entire lot was dirty and much used and abused. At this point she is looking for either a Voyager or a Corolla [less than $4k]. BillR -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 18, 2007 10:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] CarFax, please So it was leased in 2000, auctioned to a dealer resold less than a year later (first owner must not have liked it), traded in 2003, auctioned to dealer, resold, traded in 2007, auctioned to dealer, and now the car's been sitting there unsold since April? Quite a history for a 7 year old car, not that it really says anything about the car itself. A good PPI would tell you more about the car's condition than trying to draw inferences from the Carfax, but at least it hasn't been stolen, crashed, or flooded. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD
Rusty - I was not aware of that. I'll take the transmission and the AC compressor. I'll hit your website tonight and do the order. Thanks - BillR -Original Message- From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 17, 2007 10:06 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD Actually, my rebuilder pays the freight and 8 hours labor on his transmissions. Of course I have only had 3 warranties in 32 years, so it is not a real concern of mine. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'billr' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD Yep, I'm in N. Alabama. I've lost two Mercedes transmissions and although I agree that Rusty carries quality products, I've always been concerned about ordering major assemblies like an engine or transmission from him or anyone else. If everything goes well then there is not an issue but if you have a warranty related failure then you pay freight both ways for the replacement and you pay your local mechanic (again) to install the replacement. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of billr Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 10:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD That is not too bad. I was thinking I had been seeing them for $2,800. I just hope Jax is as reasonable as N. Alabama [that is where you are, right?] BillR -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 14, 2007 10:53 AM To: 'billr' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD Do a total rebuild - around here the cost is about $1,700. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of billr Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 9:02 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD Final checks are being done at the moment by my mechanic, but initial indications are that my transmission may be shot. It has been giving some problems for a few months, most notably on my recent trip to VA it quit shifting into 4th, then wouldn't go into 3rd. Checked all vacuum connections but found nothing, then was fine from SC to VA and back to SC then home to Jax. Mostly it has just exhibited a slight flare from 2 - 3, getting a bit worse over the last couple of weeks. Last night I stopped in to get a bottle of Techron concentrate and when I tried to leave the parking lot nothing would engage at all. Mechanic reattached the linkage this morning, but it still will not go into gear. Thoughts on this problem; Thoughts on rebuild vs. finding a used one if this one is gone? Thanks in advance - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CarFax, please
Hi Kaleb [or anyone who has a carfax account] - My daughter is looking for a used car and is interested in this one. Carfax appreciated. Thanks - BillR 1C3EJ56H7YN221871 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD
You are on the same page I am with that. I ended up getting two bad engines [one from a bone yard and one from Potomac (sp?) German] and had to pay a mechanic [many miles from home] three times to install them [he did not believe you could test compression without a full install]. I felt a tipping point there on not using local for the big stuff. Since this happened at home I have my mechanic to rely on and will follow his suggestions - though I'm very happy to have Rusty as a backup source. BillR -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 14, 2007 6:24 PM To: 'billr' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD Yep, I'm in N. Alabama. I've lost two Mercedes transmissions and although I agree that Rusty carries quality products, I've always been concerned about ordering major assemblies like an engine or transmission from him or anyone else. If everything goes well then there is not an issue but if you have a warranty related failure then you pay freight both ways for the replacement and you pay your local mechanic (again) to install the replacement. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of billr Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 10:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD That is not too bad. I was thinking I had been seeing them for $2,800. I just hope Jax is as reasonable as N. Alabama [that is where you are, right?] BillR -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 14, 2007 10:53 AM To: 'billr' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD Do a total rebuild - around here the cost is about $1,700. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of billr Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 9:02 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD Final checks are being done at the moment by my mechanic, but initial indications are that my transmission may be shot. It has been giving some problems for a few months, most notably on my recent trip to VA it quit shifting into 4th, then wouldn't go into 3rd. Checked all vacuum connections but found nothing, then was fine from SC to VA and back to SC then home to Jax. Mostly it has just exhibited a slight flare from 2 - 3, getting a bit worse over the last couple of weeks. Last night I stopped in to get a bottle of Techron concentrate and when I tried to leave the parking lot nothing would engage at all. Mechanic reattached the linkage this morning, but it still will not go into gear. Thoughts on this problem; Thoughts on rebuild vs. finding a used one if this one is gone? Thanks in advance - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Outstanding
Rick - I spent about 7 years in West Central [Veedersburg, IN] while I did grad and post-grad work. 34 below one morning; coldest this FL boy ever saw. Where are you? I am not thrilled with Jacksonville summers, but I don't miss IN winters at all. No snow blowers here, but I do use Sea Foam for my generator. No complaints thus far - but thus far I have not needed it. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles -Original Message- From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 15, 2007 4:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Outstanding Is anybody on here using SeaFoam gas additive? http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechGas.htm It is good stuff. I asked my local small engine guy about additives like Sta-bil and he sold me on Seafoam. He also said to spend the money and buy premium fuel if the machine is to sit unused for any length of time. Like *ahem* snowblowers Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT Lows in the forties tonight here in NW Indiana. Snow is just around the corner... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD
Final checks are being done at the moment by my mechanic, but initial indications are that my transmission may be shot. It has been giving some problems for a few months, most notably on my recent trip to VA it quit shifting into 4th, then wouldn't go into 3rd. Checked all vacuum connections but found nothing, then was fine from SC to VA and back to SC then home to Jax. Mostly it has just exhibited a slight flare from 2 - 3, getting a bit worse over the last couple of weeks. Last night I stopped in to get a bottle of Techron concentrate and when I tried to leave the parking lot nothing would engage at all. Mechanic reattached the linkage this morning, but it still will not go into gear. Thoughts on this problem; Thoughts on rebuild vs. finding a used one if this one is gone? Thanks in advance - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD
That's what I am thinking over. IIRC a rebuild would be @$2800. My car is decent, good interior, and even though I like it, all the parts are old. There is a 1987 300SDL in Miami for a 'buy it now' of around $6,500, with 167k on the odo. If I could negotiate to buy that for about 2x the cost of a rebuild I'd think very hard about that. If this turns out to be a low $ fixable problem with my 300SD I'm happy with that. BillR -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 14, 2007 10:08 AM To: billr [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD To my mind the question would hinge on how long you wish to keep the car for. if i figured i were spending the rest of my life with the car, i'd go with rebuilt. otherwise, i'd either scrap the car or look for a used one. On 9/14/07, billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Final checks are being done at the moment by my mechanic, but initial indications are that my transmission may be shot. It has been giving some problems for a few months, most notably on my recent trip to VA it quit shifting into 4th, then wouldn't go into 3rd. Checked all vacuum connections but found nothing, then was fine from SC to VA and back to SC then home to Jax. Mostly it has just exhibited a slight flare from 2 - 3, getting a bit worse over the last couple of weeks. Last night I stopped in to get a bottle of Techron concentrate and when I tried to leave the parking lot nothing would engage at all. Mechanic reattached the linkage this morning, but it still will not go into gear. Thoughts on this problem; Thoughts on rebuild vs. finding a used one if this one is gone? Thanks in advance - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD
Thus far all the news from the list is better than my fears. Thanks John. BillR -Original Message- From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 14, 2007 11:44 AM To: billr [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD billr wrote: That is not too bad. I was thinking I had been seeing them for $2,800. I just hope Jax is as reasonable as N. Alabama [that is where you are, right?] Rusty sells them too. I think they cost around $1700... could then get your indy to install it (if his rebuild option is too much). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD
Not yet, but if I need one [at this point I am not sure] I will. BillR -Original Message- From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 14, 2007 11:42 AM To: billr [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:37:52 -0400 (GMT-04:00) billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is not too bad. I was thinking I had been seeing them for $2,800. I just hope Jax is as reasonable as N. Alabama [that is where you are, right?] Have you asked Rusty? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD
That is not too bad. I was thinking I had been seeing them for $2,800. I just hope Jax is as reasonable as N. Alabama [that is where you are, right?] BillR -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 14, 2007 10:53 AM To: 'billr' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD Do a total rebuild - around here the cost is about $1,700. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of billr Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 9:02 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] transmission toasted? 1981 300SD Final checks are being done at the moment by my mechanic, but initial indications are that my transmission may be shot. It has been giving some problems for a few months, most notably on my recent trip to VA it quit shifting into 4th, then wouldn't go into 3rd. Checked all vacuum connections but found nothing, then was fine from SC to VA and back to SC then home to Jax. Mostly it has just exhibited a slight flare from 2 - 3, getting a bit worse over the last couple of weeks. Last night I stopped in to get a bottle of Techron concentrate and when I tried to leave the parking lot nothing would engage at all. Mechanic reattached the linkage this morning, but it still will not go into gear. Thoughts on this problem; Thoughts on rebuild vs. finding a used one if this one is gone? Thanks in advance - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted
At this point there is a good chance I will go with Rusty for a rebuilt - along with a new AC compressor. The used one I put in only lasted a couple of months before it started making significant noise. My Indy [also my nephew] has a place that rebuilds MB transmissions for him [and he does their mechanical work] and he is going to check their price for me on Monday. Don't think even a 'professional friend discount' will beat Rusty's on the AC, but the transmission could be cheaper done here. Monday will be when I find out. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles on the car; ? miles on the engine [runs good, but the supplier promised but never sent info; and probably 0 miles on the transmission as of next week. -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 14, 2007 5:44 PM To: 'Peter T. Arnold' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted Factory Rebuilt means rebuilt in a factory, somewhere Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 9/14/07 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted I love the term Factory Rebuilt. Think they send them back to the Fatherland where Elves rebuild them? I met a fellow several years ago who was convinced that his new fender had Factory Paint on it! Yes, he thought that the new fender had been made and painted in the factory! In East Hartford, CT there was a dealer who rebuilt flathead fords in the 50's. They were advertised, stamped and invoiced as Factory Rebuilt. Because Ford wanted the royalty! Where are people like that when I have something to sell? -- Regards, Pete Arnold Your reading list this summer should include: Where Have All the Leaders Gone? by, Lee Iacocca On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:48:11 -0400, you wrote: What happened to the MB factory rebuilt transmissions that we were advised to buy a year or two ago? Did they quit rebuilding them or did the price go out of sight? Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D -- Rebuild of my 91 350SDL tranny was ~$2300 in Raleigh, NC coupla months ago. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my $78 pawn shop kirby throws fire but keeps on vacuuming
We got one of those because my cousins [neither of whom can walk very well] really liked theirs. We used ours for several weeks and took it back for a more traditional model. Too many problems with getting caught under some furniture and in the corner of the kitchen, and it tried to eat the edges of some small rugs. I figured that by the time I got things properly set for it I could vacuum with a much stronger vac in about the same time. Your experience might well vary, and the technology might be better now ours was two years ago. BillR -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 13, 2007 1:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] my $78 pawn shop kirby throws fire but keeps on vacuuming i've looked at those in pictures. i have a dog and a cat and wonder if it wouldn't drive them nuts On 9/13/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get a Roomba (vacuuming robot). Aside from doing a pretty good job with minimal intervention, it could provide hours of amusement and torture for your felines. The new ones have provisions to be programmed to do all sorts of things (like outfitting with a vid cam). --R John Robbins wrote: I've been wanting to install one of those systems for awhile now... but have too many other projects. I've got hardwood floors and two cats... so the cat hair is really noticeable (think roaming dust bunnies). Uprights are just silly for hardwood, and they don't make good cannister vacuums anymore. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration
I've not been able to follow all the threads on this due to limited time and computer problems - Is Techron concentrate safe and effective for a diesel? Much easier than doing the stuff requited for Diesel Purge. Thanks - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles -Original Message- From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 11, 2007 4:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration Rich Thomas wrote: So is that true, these are the same product? Diesel Purge I never see, Techron is in the auto parts store. --R Marshall Booth wrote: I'd start with a dose of a superior injector cleaner (Diesel Purge delivered full strength or Chevron Techron concentrate - the same stuff for gasoline cars) Diesel Purge is NOT the same as Chevron Techron concentrate nor are they administered the same way to achieve maximum effect. DP is run through full strength with the fuel tank/lines disconnected, while Techron concentrate is poured into the fuel tank and thew car driven. They both do an excellent job of cleaning dirty/coked injectors. BG 44k is also a fine cleaner that's poured into the tank, but it's expensive and must be purchased from a service shop. Most of the other cleaners that I've tried were a little to a lot less effective. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay
I've been caught once by only doing a quick check of feedback. Same result as you when the 'seller/scammer' closed accounts and changed id. Now I will only buy from folks with decent feedback that I actually read and check feedback ID on. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles -Original Message- From: Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 10, 2007 10:18 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Ebay Tom, 1. If Ebay is so sleaze-ball proof, why hadn't they even responded to my report when I got taken via a falsely advertised product? 2. I'm essentially dead in the water in regards to Paypal, as changing both geographic and Email addresses they put me in an endless loop and I can't get access to change things there and no one will respond with a phone number of a real human to get this accomplished. I'm currently treating Ebay like the Sunday comics . . . for entertainment only. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i really don't get how brick and mortar shops can survivetoday NOW Pergo
I recently ran into another reason to get the 'good stuff'. A PO of our house replaced the airhandler and put the new one in a front clouset with a sump pump to get water out of the house. About a year into ownership I came home to find water squishing up between the boards on my hardwood floors. I called him and he explained the problem, then said not to worry as the floors were solid wood and would dry out fine. They did, but I suspect with some of the laminates they would not. Ours is an unusual case, but minor floods can happen to anyone. After a day or two drying there was no evidence of our 'flood'. Glad he used the good stuff. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 9, 2007 4:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] i really don't get how brick and mortar shops can survivetoday NOW PergoPergo style flooring for living roombought online, savings was Having done real TG flooring and still having the tools for it, I took on doing a Pergo floor in my dining room and hall last summer. It was a piece of cake, especially in the dining room, which was nearly square, which made the layout pretty easy. There are a number of cut-rate engineered flooring places around here that advertise some really cheap stuff, but if you stay with the name brands like Pergo or Armstrong you end up with a nice floor that will last a long time. I considered buying something over the 'net, but figured I would rather be able to see it in advance and have a local rep to go to if there were problems. Dan --- LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter wrote:Pergo style flooring for living room bought online, savings was about 50% WOW! We have 3 rooms with the Dupont equivilent of Pergo and now I'm kicking myself - It never even occured to me to look online for it. Darn and Double-Darn!! Where did you find it at such a great price? Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i really don't get how brick and mortar shops can survivetoday NOW Pergo
The floor was wet for about 36 hours before I figured out the problem [I thought it was our water cooler leaking from the grand-kids playing with the spigot again, then left for a day]. I used my shop vac to get up what I could and let the rest air dry with fans and my darling wife's proclivity for a very cool house. I'd say there was water under the wood for a minimum of 48 hours, and that was about 10 months ago. Not a sign of warping yet. Can't be sure it won't, but the PO was a hardwood floor dealer/installer and he wasn't concerned. BillR -Original Message- From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 9, 2007 7:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] i really don't get how brick and mortar shops can survivetoday NOW Pergo I am surprised that any wood flooring, laminate or solid hardwood, would stand up to a soaking like that long-term. While it may appear to be OK for now, I can't help but think that you're going to see some negative effects of the soaking over time. I know that Pergo can't be wet mopped or have a spill on it for more than 30 minutes or they won't honor the warranty. My experience with doing TG floors would suggest that the floor is compromised and will begin to warp after a couple of seasonal changes, depending on how hot/cold things get - if it's a solid hardwood floor. Dan --- billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently ran into another reason to get the 'good stuff'. A PO of our house replaced the airhandler and put the new one in a front clouset with a sump pump to get water out of the house. About a year into ownership I came home to find water squishing up between the boards on my hardwood floors. I called him and he explained the problem, then said not to worry as the floors were solid wood and would dry out fine. They did, but I suspect with some of the laminates they would not. Ours is an unusual case, but minor floods can happen to anyone. After a day or two drying there was no evidence of our 'flood'. Glad he used the good stuff. BillR Jacksonville FL Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] populations discussion
Thanks for the correction James. I have not been there in about three years and the memory just wasn't working. When you come off the bridge onto Big Pine in the early morning the area is full of the little critters. Thus far I have been spared any personal contact with the Iguanas. I note you have several of the mid '90's 500 - 600's. For one who does only the barest mechanical work, I have been thinking that first, Don's 300SEL might be the best choice, but if I don't do that one and my disability suit eventually comes thru I have been interested in a 500 or even a 600 sedan. I have a decent mechanic who is honest, but still $80 an hour. Thoughts? He works on 500's, but doesn't have any customers who have a 600. It would be used almost exclusively for my wife to take to work - about 15 miles, and would be the car of choice for our Friday night date. Too low gas mileage for much else. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 294k miles -Original Message- From: James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 6, 2007 11:15 AM To: 'billr' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] populations discussion The Key Deer are on No Name Key and Big Pine Key where the National Key Deer Refuge is. Iguanas on the other hand are everywhere and some are monster huge! Saw one in a tree from 20 yards, it had a head as large as a man's. James Zavesky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of billr Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] populations discussion To chime in on deer populations, one of the lower FL Keys [Summerland?] has Key Deer. Very cute and pretty tame - about the size of a medium dog [but probably would taste better ..]. It is illegal to fence them out, or drive over 45 day or 25 mph at night where they frequent [including as stretch of US 1]. If you want to find some angry home owners chat with residents who can't grow gardens or many ornamental plants except as deer fodder. One of mom's friends had a remote control gate installed for security reasons and is not allowed to close it as it would keep the deer out of her gardens. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 294k miles -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 6, 2007 9:46 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] populations discussion Someone needs to invent a gatling-bow haul a truck load home Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:32 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] populations discussion That one is easy, they starve or another predator emerges. I'm from Portland, Maine and several of the islands in the bay have problems with deer. In recent times every couple years they have a limited archery hunt to reduce population. Its interesting how greenie weenies will line up to have you sit on their back porch and bag the garden destroyers... -Curt Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 00:48:47 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] populations discussion To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have wanted to mention something, but not until now has the subject come close enough to what I want to metion: We live on an island here in WA. I am wondering how animals on an island avoid the problems that come with a limited gene pool. I mean, I don't picture any deer swimming across the sound to diversify the gene pool. Also, I can add to the discussion of an over protection of animals leading to their overpopulation, etc. I don't think there is hunting allowed here, and there are deer everywhere, even in town. Significantly greater risk of hitting one with one's car than there was in MN, and I thought I was getting away from that risk in moving here. And when the wife and I drove up to the Olympic mountain range and visited Hurricane Ridge, there were deer that were very calmly walking around and grazing right up to the edge of the parking lot, and walking across it with impunity. One wonders what will keep the population from getting out of hand. Brian - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see
Re: [MBZ] populations discussion
To chime in on deer populations, one of the lower FL Keys [Summerland?] has Key Deer. Very cute and pretty tame - about the size of a medium dog [but probably would taste better ..]. It is illegal to fence them out, or drive over 45 day or 25 mph at night where they frequent [including as stretch of US 1]. If you want to find some angry home owners chat with residents who can't grow gardens or many ornamental plants except as deer fodder. One of mom's friends had a remote control gate installed for security reasons and is not allowed to close it as it would keep the deer out of her gardens. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 294k miles -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 6, 2007 9:46 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] populations discussion Someone needs to invent a gatling-bow haul a truck load home Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:32 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] populations discussion That one is easy, they starve or another predator emerges. I'm from Portland, Maine and several of the islands in the bay have problems with deer. In recent times every couple years they have a limited archery hunt to reduce population. Its interesting how greenie weenies will line up to have you sit on their back porch and bag the garden destroyers... -Curt Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 00:48:47 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] populations discussion To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have wanted to mention something, but not until now has the subject come close enough to what I want to metion: We live on an island here in WA. I am wondering how animals on an island avoid the problems that come with a limited gene pool. I mean, I don't picture any deer swimming across the sound to diversify the gene pool. Also, I can add to the discussion of an over protection of animals leading to their overpopulation, etc. I don't think there is hunting allowed here, and there are deer everywhere, even in town. Significantly greater risk of hitting one with one's car than there was in MN, and I thought I was getting away from that risk in moving here. And when the wife and I drove up to the Olympic mountain range and visited Hurricane Ridge, there were deer that were very calmly walking around and grazing right up to the edge of the parking lot, and walking across it with impunity. One wonders what will keep the population from getting out of hand. Brian - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now climate
Wasn't the story on Gore and the Internet traced back to a comment that he was one of the senators who authorized funding for some of the initial infrastructure that allowed the Internet to be started? I know that is not nearly as much fun to say, but like most politics I find little more than a hint of truth in it - at least make sure of 'facts' prior to endless repeating of propaganda on either side. All that seems to make the chat circut is spin. BillR -Original Message- From: Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 3, 2007 9:23 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now climate On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Meanwhile, the West is burning up, there are record heat waves, and the French wine grape harvest is starting 2 months earlier than it was in the 70s. It's far more likely that Al Gore will be remembered as a visionary rather than the butt of jokes. On 9/3/07, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OMGwhat will algore do for a living? Guess all his carbon credits will be pretty much worthless soon. RE From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] H, that is one inconvenient truth! --R Let's seeinvented the internet, was the inspiration for Love Storysomehow I don't see algore being remembered as anything but a joke. RE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now climate
Interresting. I've heard other versions, few lacking 'spin'. BillR -Original Message- From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 4, 2007 11:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now climate Here's what Gore actually said: During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. Gerry - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] IIRC, he wasn't a member of the Senate when that funding was approved. His father perhaps. But my memory may be faulty - - Original Message - From: billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wasn't the story on Gore and the Internet traced back to a comment that he was one of the senators who authorized funding for some of the initial infrastructure that allowed the Internet to be started? I know that is not nearly as much fun to say, but like most politics I find little more than a hint of truth in it - at least make sure of 'facts' prior to endless repeating of propaganda on either side. All that seems to make the chat circut is spin. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Don Wills has invited you to join Kiva - populations discussion
We have been over this territory about a year ago, but I'll jump in here this time. In general you make some good points. For population discussions you need to remember that in areas with no social safety net children are the only answer to watching yourself starve to death when you can't grow your own food due to age, illness or weather. In terms of the latter, you might also lose a few of the children. Given such choices, and knowing all the girls would be moving to another home and at least some of the boys would die as infants or children would you chose to have only one or two children? 10 kids = 5 of each, and the girls will leave = 5 boys, with perhaps two dying prior to being able to farm. 3 is a 'safe' number as long as there is no warfare and they are willing to stay on the farm instead of moving to the city [doesn't happen much anymore]. Prior to suggesting controls on those who have so many children make sure you would be willing to starve and watch your spouse starve in order to keep the population low. I'll forgo comments on the state of medical care in the 2/3rds of the world that is poor, or the economic history of such regions, but you are certainly correct that it is the relative inequity of access to resources and lifestyle that feed the problem. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 2, 2007 9:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Don Wills has invited you to join Kiva From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, it's the earn a living argument. In the sub-Sahara, earning a living is probably the equivalent of $300.00 / year or so and most would never come here. The steady flood of immigrants from South of the border has nothing to do with earning a living. It has everything to do with a huge standard of living difference, separated by something as trivial as a border. And the same differences have driven population migrations from the beginning of time. History is full of examples of people moving for a better life, the more recent in this country being the massive immigration from Europe into this country over the past 300 or so years, the gold silver rushes out west and the move westward. If we want to stop immigration from South of the border then we need to figure out a way to improve their economy. --- Whether it's Mexico, India, Africa, China, Malaysia, Turkey, Morroco, or nearly any other third world country; a big problem that no one seems to be able to do anything about is the birth of more people than the countries can support. This drives down the quality of life and their citizens move to richer countries when they can. Should Western industrial nations such as the U.S. permit this migration? First generation immigrants work hard without complaint for low wages, businessmen love them, and they help make prosperous countries even more prosperous. However, the second and third generation become industrialized citizens with the same expectations as the general citizenry. The result is an increase of citizens, usually poor, in the industrial nations, who do not work hard for low wages without complaint. Often unemployed and poorly educated, they become a liability instead of an asset to the country. Usually, as in Mexico, the population exceeds the ability of the arable land to support them, so even if Mexico should suddenly become a well organized democratic country instead of an oligarchy of wealthy families (Carlos Slim of Mexico has recently become the richest man in the world); the constant increase in population would still lead Mexicans to immigrate to the U.S. Population increase seems to be a major worldwide problem which no one knows the answer to. Historically the answer was the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: War, Famine, Pestilence, and Death. Science has eliminated famine, pestilence, and early death in much of the worlds population. Unless someone comes up with a better solution, it looks like the remaining Horseman, War, might be the eventual result. Not a good solution IMO. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] got my coupe back tonight - insurance q'
In FL I save a good chunk by not having stacked coverage on medical. I already have very good medical insurance so don't have that on my car policy. All they would pay is some additional on the deductable anyway. It's not legal to turn in a claim to two companies, though it is done, snd you can actually make money that way - or end up with a criminal record. I just save my $ with only my health coverage to take care of accidents. BillR -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 28, 2007 2:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] got my coupe back tonight I suppose. Here if you have full coverage it pays if the other guy does not have insurance, and the uninsured pays the medical part if any. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] got my coupe back tonight hi Kaleb! that's not the case in Calif.; i'm sure that (as with all things insurance related) it varies from state-to-state, but i've had Uninsured Motorist coverage pay for property damage here. of course the scumbags actually wanted to argue about it first, saying (with a straight face): can you prove the other guy didn't have insurance?. when i pointed out that it was a state requirement for drivers to prove that they *did* have insurance (something they hadn't been able to do for the officer on the scene), they finally sent me my money, but they even dragged that out into 2 separate checks...! point is, they did *eventually* pay; but like with every other situation where the insurance company is paying you, i had to disbelieve what they told me first and make it clear i wasn't going to settle for their first story. cheers! e Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: uninsured motorist only pays for your medical bills of the other person does not have insurance. It does not cover property at all. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] got my coupe back tonight Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: comp and uninsured motorist is great and crucial if you live in a high crime urban area. a lot of drivers out there have neither license nor insurance. in some areas, no green card either. when they hit you, they will run and you will be screwed without uninsured. If somebody hits your car and runs away, and you don't have collision, you're going to pay for the repairs out of your own pocket. Uninsured only covers you when the other (uninsured) party is known. i've now lost 2 cars to criminal gang activity since living in atlanta. you guys who live outside of the cities and behind iron gates have no idea of how your sick liberal policies have destroyed this country over the past 30 years. for those of us who have to pay the price for your insane schemes because we can't afford to by insulation and actually have to be out on the streets and interact with the animals you have created, comprehensive is also an absolute must. Yes, comprehensive covers non-collision damages such as theft, vandalism, and certain accidents such as hitting a deer. Otherwise, any damage cause by something colliding with your car generally falls under collision. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go
Re: [MBZ] got my coupe back tonight - insurance q'
John - I have not checked on this in several years, but I think that is covered. While it is very rare that anyone other than family is in my car, it could happen. BillR -Original Message- From: John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 28, 2007 6:47 PM To: billr [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] got my coupe back tonight - insurance q' So what about your passengers? On 8/28/07, billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In FL I save a good chunk by not having stacked coverage on medical. I already have very good medical insurance so don't have that on my car policy. All they would pay is some additional on the deductable anyway. It's not legal to turn in a claim to two companies, though it is done, snd you can actually make money that way - or end up with a criminal record. I just save my $ with only my health coverage to take care of accidents. BillR -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 28, 2007 2:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] got my coupe back tonight I suppose. Here if you have full coverage it pays if the other guy does not have insurance, and the uninsured pays the medical part if any. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] got my coupe back tonight hi Kaleb! that's not the case in Calif.; i'm sure that (as with all things insurance related) it varies from state-to-state, but i've had Uninsured Motorist coverage pay for property damage here. of course the scumbags actually wanted to argue about it first, saying (with a straight face): can you prove the other guy didn't have insurance?. when i pointed out that it was a state requirement for drivers to prove that they *did* have insurance (something they hadn't been able to do for the officer on the scene), they finally sent me my money, but they even dragged that out into 2 separate checks...! point is, they did *eventually* pay; but like with every other situation where the insurance company is paying you, i had to disbelieve what they told me first and make it clear i wasn't going to settle for their first story. cheers! e Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: uninsured motorist only pays for your medical bills of the other person does not have insurance. It does not cover property at all. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] got my coupe back tonight Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: comp and uninsured motorist is great and crucial if you live in a high crime urban area. a lot of drivers out there have neither license nor insurance. in some areas, no green card either. when they hit you, they will run and you will be screwed without uninsured. If somebody hits your car and runs away, and you don't have collision, you're going to pay for the repairs out of your own pocket. Uninsured only covers you when the other (uninsured) party is known. i've now lost 2 cars to criminal gang activity since living in atlanta. you guys who live outside of the cities and behind iron gates have no idea of how your sick liberal policies have destroyed this country over the past 30 years. for those of us who have to pay the price for your insane schemes because we can't afford to by insulation and actually have to be out on the streets and interact with the animals you have created, comprehensive is also an absolute must. Yes, comprehensive covers non-collision damages such as theft, vandalism, and certain accidents such as hitting a deer. Otherwise, any damage cause by something colliding with your car generally falls under collision. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: [MBZ] What happened to the VW rabbit diesels from the 1980's
Alcohol has more calories than carbs, proteins or fat - but you just can't drink enough straight alcohol to make that much difference. BillR -Original Message- From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 27, 2007 5:26 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What happened to the VW rabbit diesels from the 1980's Alex noted: driven by a mean-looking old lady swaddled in pearls and pelts. I guess they're pretty skinny too. Can't gain too much weight drinking Manhattans, High Balls and G T s. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I guesss now it's drunks in VW's ...
Sorry, I failed to change the subject line. -Original Message- From: billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 27, 2007 8:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What happened to the VW rabbit diesels from the 1980's Alcohol has more calories than carbs, proteins or fat - but you just can't drink enough straight alcohol to make that much difference. BillR -Original Message- From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 27, 2007 5:26 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What happened to the VW rabbit diesels from the 1980's Alex noted: driven by a mean-looking old lady swaddled in pearls and pelts. I guess they're pretty skinny too. Can't gain too much weight drinking Manhattans, High Balls and G T s. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Router
Depends on how much of it you drink while you are doingthe install - or how much beer BillR Next house I build or remodel is going to have fiber and CAT5/6 throughout. it's cheap as wine anymore. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Airport Express
Dan - I use a 64 bit encryption and assume I am safe...True or not? Many of my neighbors are not secured and often are stronger signals than my internal system. Neverr tried to hijack one, though. BillR If you live in an urban or suburban area, your access point could easily be hijacked, for one. Allow that to happen and watch your bandwidth drop as the hijacker is an online gamer or is hosting bootleg pron sites. Also, if I can get into your access point, I can get into your computer. That means anything connected to your network can be compromised. That's just the beginning. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Airport Express
Mine is WEP - not sure what WPA is - and come to think of it it is 128 bit, not 64, and uses a key of about 18 characters. My router just died and the on-line tech had me change it to 64 bit and part of my phone number. I'll go back to the heavier stuff when the new router arrives. Thanks - BillR -Original Message- From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 26, 2007 5:41 PM To: billr [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Airport Express WEP or WPA? It makes a difference, as WEP is a lot easier to crack for someone who wants in. That being said, I prefer WPA personal, not broadcasting my SSID, and MAC addressing for the ACL. It's not bulletproof, but it will be a lot less attractive to the teenage hacker that might try to crack it. More likely than not, they'll move on to easier pickin's. Dan --- billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan - I use a 64 bit encryption and assume I am safe...True or not? Many of my neighbors are not secured and often are stronger signals than my internal system. Neverr tried to hijack one, though. BillR If you live in an urban or suburban area, your access point could easily be hijacked, for one. Allow that to happen and watch your bandwidth drop as the hijacker is an online gamer or is hosting bootleg pron sites. Also, if I can get into your access point, I can get into your computer. That means anything connected to your network can be compromised. That's just the beginning. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Rambo goes fishing
Personally I like an over/under 410/.22 for trout. BTW, I've never owned a shotgun or fished for trout. We don't have those in the Atlantic - well, probably a few shotguns in there with all the drug boats, but a 410 would just bounce off most sharks anyway. Dad had a cop on his boat who shot a .38 'into' a nurse shark at a range of about 2'. Didn't leave more than a scratch, but did put everyone in danger from the bouncing bullet. I did have a shark that ran out a 60# line on a deep sea rig at full drag and snapped it off. The next night [same time] one snapped a 100# test line [no, I wasn't holding a rod at the time] and at the same time the next night the same thing happened with a 1/4 nylon rope. At that point I decided whatever it was I wanted to stay on the opposite side of the horizon from it, and it was too large to eat anyway [any shark over 6' isn't good eating, IMHO]. Who says guns and fishing on a MB discussion site don't mix? I drove down to the FL Keys in my '62 220Sb, so that ties it all together. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 6:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Rambo goes fishing Sure as long as it is dynamite fishing. If it don't go bang it ain't no fun. Tom Hargrave wrote: How about discussing fishing? This should be a little more palletable subject for the anti-handgun folks. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pressure washers
Just a note from a non-pro on those. I have had three: #1 my son liberated
when he moved; #2 burned up the pump after moderate use [2 or 3 times a
year] for a few years]; #3 from Sam's with a Honda motor still stats and
runs fine. All worked OK [at least for a time], but the biggest difference
was getting a 'spinner' wand that covered a good size area [fine point,
slightly angled, that spins at high speed - @ $40 at Sears]. That is
assuming you have a typical home unit. Son had a BIG one in his shop {USAF]
and one of the guys wanted to take some paint drops off of his shoe.
Fortunately for him he was wearing steel toed shoes as a 1 second blast took
off the end of the shoe down to the steel.
Be careful with all of them, but especially with those big ones.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Jim Cathey
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 11:41 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pressure washers
Since I know absolutely nothing about pressure washers and am
considering
getting one for cleaning vinyl siding, etc. on house situated in the
woods.
What's the consensus . . . brand, pressure, etc.?
I've had two. One 3.5 horse cheap job that worked fine, but after
some use it felt like cleaning things with a toothbrush. I replaced
it with an 11 horse model that can really clean things off.
Either can destroy surfaces if you're using them improperly, the
size of the swath is all that varied. The rated pressure of both
was about the same, but the GPM was quite different. Mine has an
adjustable valve for setting the pressure. I paid about $700 some
years ago at a liquidator's.
-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] subject change: Iowa's a nice place to live
I'll still take many parts of FL over VA and IN where I have lived. I was born and raised here so that probably slants my view. Where are you? BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 8:04 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] subject change: Iowa's a nice place to live Having lived in the Midwest, San Francisco and now Florida, I can say without question that the Midwest was (is) best. Florida, at least the part of Florida I live in, is nothing short of Hell on Earth populated by idiots. Dan --- Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iowa is a very nice place to live. I grew up in WV, went to college in SC, and have lived since then in NC, VA, NC again, MA, FL, NYC, VA/DC, and FL once again. Iowa is definitely the nicest place I've had the opportunity to call home. Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
Good addition to the discussion. I have never owned a gun, though mom and dad had a 22 rifle and pistol in the house and we had to take training on the rifle when I was a kid [they always thought the pistol was safely tucked away, but I used that one more than the rifle. I am considering buying one now, not for self protection, but sport. I have a few sets of throwing knives that I enjoy, but am getting to the point that I don't have enough cool weather for months here to throw them - easy to get out of practice. I am thinking about getting a pistol just to see if I could get any proficiency with it. My son bought a handgun when he was away from home for several tours with the USAF and didn't live in an area where he felt his wife was safe alone. He made sure she was trained on it [she was also military]. We went to a range and I discovered those things are not so easy to shoot accurately as TV shows might suggest. Might be fun to try. With FL law I could probably carry it, but I wouldn't. It would be locked in a lockbox until I got to the range. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 8:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law At the risk of being laughed at, I must again repeat my mantra that I spent almost half of my five-plus decades in urban areas and have never found myself in a situation where I'd have drawn a weapon if I'd have been carrying one. Closest I've come to that was when I was being teased by a street mime in NYC. He deserved to be shot not only for making fun of me (I was chewing gum) but because he was a mime. The only time I've armed myself was when I was stationed on Governors Island (NYC). If you arrived for the ferry boat after 11:00 pm, you had to wait a half hour instead of a quarter hour between ferry boats, parked just south of Wall Street. ... I kept a stout piece of oak and a hunting knife tucked under the driver's seat of my MBG, and that was only because I was sitting rather exposed (but with pants on) in a small convertible. My experience was that if approached by someone menacing, one had only to say f-off and the guy went away. It is only when one shows fear that one becomes a victim. I've shot weapons -- 45 handgun and 9 mm handgun and M-16 (all military-training related). This was done solely as part of my training: trying to hit the middle of the paper and earn a pretty blue ribbon w/ expert E on it. I've owned guns -- all inherited, none ever purchased -- and gladly left every one behind when I departed marriage #1. Now, if you feel more secure with a 9 mm tucked into your pants, then I guess that is your right. Personally, I'd be more afraid of shooting a testicle off during a sudden frenzy of scratching than I'd be of needing to get into a firefight over my lunch break. Let us stand for our closing prayer. On 8/16/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tom, There's an old saying about not bringing a knife to a gun fight. ;-) There's also a saying about dead people not sueing. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy - hijacked to GPS
Another option for those of us who troll thrift stores on occasion is the $21 Garmin ColorMap I picked a few years ago. Never seen another, though. They are very handy when travelling in unfamiliar areas, and at the very least will track where you have been if you happen into an area you don't have a map for. Having speed, distance, elevation, direction, the next road coming up, etc can be quite useful, and extra memory and maps are readily available [for mine, anyway], though a national update cost many times more than I paid for the unit. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 10:47 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy I'm using my second GPS I love it. I would not recommend one of the hand held ones or the TomTom POS. Plan on spending $600 - $800 for a fully functional, good GPS that can be mounted on the windshield of your car or on a pod on your motorcycle. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy If it has a map (as a former aircraft navigator, I unfortunately tend to get lost while out motorcycle riding) I want one. Joking aside, I really do want one -- but I want it to do what I need it to do (maps). I need turn by turn out in the sticks, not just a map of downtown Manhattan. I want to ride in any given direction (two-wheels) for a couple of hours, and then have the GPS tell me where I am and how to get home. On 8/16/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonko the Sane wrote: Want to loan me your GPS so I can check the accuracy of the Quantum? Loren thinks it is accurate, I think it reads 10 mph high. Got any recurring need for one? Lowrance has one that lists for about $80 and I've seen it on sale for $50-60. -On the defensive firearm issue: I don't ever expect to need it. I also don't expect my house to burn down, but I pay more for homeowner's insurance than I spend on guns in most years. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy - GPS
That sort of thing can be a good option for small $. I picked up a small unit that plugged into both my laptop and my IPAQ [PCI slot?]. Using it with a map program on the laptop was quite easy and accurate. I have maps for my handheld that cover the entire country one county at a time, but they are not easy to use due to the small size of the display and the lack of features. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy Fry's has the DeLorme you plug into your laptop for $30 in today's flyer. Or outpost.com --R Fmiser wrote: It seems than at Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:16:13 -0500, Wonko wrote: Want to loan me your GPS so I can check the accuracy of the Quantum? Loren thinks it is accurate, I think it reads 10 mph high. I am not joking -- I will pay postage both ways or bring it to the IowaQ. $60 buys a basic GPS new. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy - GPS
Yes, that would be nice, but I suspect you paid a bit more than the $21 for my ColorMap [that was a very good buy ...] or the @$100 for the plug in unit. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy - GPS The iWay has all the maps already installed on the internal 20 gig harddrive for all of north america. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor 918-746-1400 x305 - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy - GPS That sort of thing can be a good option for small $. I picked up a small unit that plugged into both my laptop and my IPAQ [PCI slot?]. Using it with a map program on the laptop was quite easy and accurate. I have maps for my handheld that cover the entire country one county at a time, but they are not easy to use due to the small size of the display and the lack of features. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy Fry's has the DeLorme you plug into your laptop for $30 in today's flyer. Or outpost.com --R Fmiser wrote: It seems than at Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:16:13 -0500, Wonko wrote: Want to loan me your GPS so I can check the accuracy of the Quantum? Loren thinks it is accurate, I think it reads 10 mph high. I am not joking -- I will pay postage both ways or bring it to the IowaQ. $60 buys a basic GPS new. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Handguns and the law
Don - You are selling your car and your house ... did your wife lose her red slippers? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Handguns and the law Gerry wrote: Years ago a man came into the ER who was missing the bottom half of his scrotum but his testicles were in good shape, hanging by the vein, artery, and spermatic cord. His girlfriends husband had caught them in bed, he raised up on his knees when the door flew open, and her husband shot between his legs with a .45 cal pistol. I will never be the same after reading that. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 139K (For Sale) My House is For Sale, too. Want to move to Wichita? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Not in Kansas anymore ....
Sorry should have changed the subject line ... Bill -Original Message- From: BillR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 12:58 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: RE: [MBZ] Handguns and the law Don - You are selling your car and your house ... did your wife lose her red slippers? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Handguns and the law Gerry wrote: Years ago a man came into the ER who was missing the bottom half of his scrotum but his testicles were in good shape, hanging by the vein, artery, and spermatic cord. His girlfriends husband had caught them in bed, he raised up on his knees when the door flew open, and her husband shot between his legs with a .45 cal pistol. I will never be the same after reading that. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 139K (For Sale) My House is For Sale, too. Want to move to Wichita? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Handguns and the law
A friend of mine was riding her bicycle on a country road [when we lived in IN] and she was hit in the leg by a bullet that dropped out of the sky. Didn't do serious damage except to her sense of safety outdoors. Took her a long time to get over it. Those shots in the air come down somewhere. Odds are a bullet will land safely, but if enough shots are fired over the years odds are one of them will hurt someone. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:13 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Handguns and the law I've read that back in the day intrepid frontersmen would shoot just in front of the nose of a squirrel with their .50 cal(or other large bore) muzzle loader. The squirrel would be killed by the shockwave as the bullet came by but no meat would be damaged. Dad and I tried it on several occasions but were never able to make it work. Of course we were limited in our shooting opportunities by limiting our selves to shots where we had an appropriate backstop. I'm sure the frontiersmen would shoot at squirrels up in a tree, devil may care where the bullet would land. No doubt similar effect is at work in the ER story. -Curt Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:11:10 -0400 From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Handguns and the law To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Years ago a man came into the ER who was missing the bottom half of his scrotum but his testicles were in good shape, hanging by the vein, artery, and spermatic cord. His girlfriends husband had caught them in bed, he raised up on his knees when the door flew open, and her husband shot between his legs with a .45 cal pistol. A cop said the slug didn't hit his scrotum but that it had come close and that was enough to blow part of it off. It seemed unlikely at the time but since then I've seen what kind of damage a .45 slug can do. The doctor managed to sew what was left of the scrotum back around the testicles and in 24 hours the suture lines were healed. Gerry - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not in Kansas anymore ....
Been there, done that - and made a killing when we sold ... but that market is gone for awhile. Good luck with both sales. I just hope my suit doesn't actually go until next year. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 2:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not in Kansas anymore Bill R. wrote: Don - You are selling your car and your house ... did your wife lose her red slippers? Well, the car, as you know, has been for sale for a while. It is still for sale, but I have been doing much to get it sold. It drives great, runs great, still looks good and is comfortable. I let my autotrader ad expire and I have not done anything else to sell it. The reason the house is for sale is because of a mistake. We live in a really interesting neighborhood called College Hill. All of the houses are old. The trees are large and many of the streets are cobblestone. A lot of the houses have old carriage houses for garages and the houses all have lots of character. Some people would say that it is for the rich and snobby people. What they don't realize is that the neighborhood is not just for Rich people (because I am NOT rich - maybe once I get my damn student loans paid off I will be closer). The houses in the neighborhood range from $1.5 Million to less than $100,000. That is one thing that is very interesting about it. The $1.5 Million house is only 2 blocks east and 2 blocks south of my house. But, my house is only $160,000. at any rate, my wife and I were bored one Sunday afternoon and it was beautiful outside, so we decided to go for a drive. We noticed that a couple of houses in College Hill were having an Open House. So, we went and looked. Now, we didn't look at the $500,000 house that we couldn't afford, we looked at one that was actually pretty reasonable. We thought it was too expensive and therefore no danger in looking at it. That night we actually put pen to paper and determined that we could afford the house. In fact, between what we paid for the mortgage and the home equity loan - we were paying for a much nicer house. So, we talked to realtor and she told us how much we could get for our house. We took the plunge and put it on the market. In the interim we decided against the against the house that had originally inspired us to sell our house. We are still looking for our next house. Now, is not a good time to be selling the market is very slow. So, if it doesn't sell that is okay we love the house and we can wait until the market is better. The frustrating thing is we have had TONS of people looking at the house. We have had appointments almost everyday for the 40 days it has been on the market. But, despite all the activity it has not sold. Here is the listing for our house: http://www.wichitalistings.com/property/property.asp?PRM_MLSNumber=22135 2PRM_MlsName=wichitaKS# http://www.wichitalistings.com/property/property.asp?PRM_MLSNumber=2213 52PRM_MlsName=wichitaKS Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 139K (For Sale) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bullets
I wouldn't suggest going there for sunbathing. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 3:43 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bullets Those shots in the air come down somewhere. Odds are a bullet will land safely, but if enough shots are fired over the years odds are one of them will hurt someone. What about all those rounds fired in the air by the citizens in Baghdad where it goes on all the time? RLE ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot! And sometimes you luck out...
Don - Your name is legion among all DIY'ers. Three times I lucked out among all the times I have been cut and bruised by recalcitrant household items. Twice I have dropped sharp objects - a knife and an ice pick - that landed between my great and second toe and impaled themselves in my sandal without even a scratch on my foot; I had a pull down attic stair that broke off when I was at the top of the lowest section. I dropped about 3 feet onto a cement floor with my previously crushed left foot under me. I heard a crunch and sat there awaiting the pain that didn't come. What I had done was put the misplaced bones of that 10 years earlier wreck back into place. It had hurt for ten years and has been fine for the last 20. Sounds like you did just fine. BillR Jacksonville FL Don - on the less positive side, even though my attorney says things are progressing with my suit, I am told that some of the dates that are coming up for motions are into 2008. While I still expect to win, I have little hope of this thing finishing up soon. If you get a decent offer on your car I won't complain as it has already been beyond a reasonable time. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 12:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot! Kaleb wrote: I dont know why, but I thought that story was funny Good, it was intended to be funny. It's a true story and my wife didn't think it was funny. But, when I was done I got a good laugh from it and then passed out from the exsanguination (not really). Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 138K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Help a lost lister - more general comments on DC
I do believe you are correct - the National Cathedral. An impressive structure [and gift shop]. I believe a rail/subway pass is about $8 for a day with as many rides as you want. Just as a side note, before you do something like giving your pass to a hungry looking student make sure your flight hasn't been delayed 4 hours. You don't need to ask how I know. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 6:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Help a lost lister I may get this wrong as I have never been there, but my wife was in DC a few years back on business and got on some sort of tour bus thing that went around to various sites. My recollection is that one could get on and off this wherever and whenever and then catch a later one when it came by on the basis of one ticket that was good for the whole day. She went to places like Arlington National Cemetary and quite enjoyed her short visit. If I were to go there, I certainly wouldn't miss the Smithstonian. I understand one could spend days in there and not see it all. Another thing that I would like to see, having seen a documentary on its construction, would be the cathedral. Can't recall exact name - National Cathedral?? The documentary said they had trouble finding old school tradespeople to do the work. Quite a building. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sunil Hari Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 3:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Help a lost lister I'm in Bethesda MD for a month on a surgery rotation at the National Naval Medical Center. Any listers with friendly advice on what to do or where to go? -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flippin' Tach. was: How to lose a lister......!!!!!!!
I'm sure the more mechanical amongst us will have a better answer, but since in accidentally consumed much caffeine tonight and am up at 2AM I'll toss in my two bits: The only time I have had that sort of thing occur it turned out the wire to the sending unit was broken off, and it would make things jump when it grounded out. Worth a look. Someone else will have to tell you where the pickup is for the tach. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of archer Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 1:58 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Flippin' Tach. was: How to lose a lister..!!! Hi all, This original query that was about what to see in DC has dissolved into a morass!!! Friends, just a quiet request Change the Subject when the TOPIC has CHANGED from the originator's query that was meaningful..! Off the squawk box..!! Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ - Here's a change of topic. The tachometer in my '83 300D has been inoperative since I bought the car several years ago. A couple of months ago the hand started popping up and immediately back down once or twice a day; usually at the end of a drive to town. Gradually since then it has flipped up and down more often and the distance it flips around on the dial has increased until now it's pegging the dial several times per day. There is no relation to the engine RPM. Is the meter getting too much voltage intermittently that will eventually destroy it? Does it indicate which part is bad? Is it difficult to fix? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL
An easy way to do some of what you want is to do a search then bookmark that page. All you need do then is hit the bookmark for an updated page. Unless you want to do a LOT of searches that should make it simple enough. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 292k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:47 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok Craigslist nuts, how can one search multiple cities at the sametime on CL? I know it's been discussed before TIA all. Last I knew, CL did not allow it. Some third parties have hacked up some front-end sites that search multiple CL cities on the back end, but CL keeps tweaking their protocols to thwart them. Sometimes they work, sometimes they dont. I don't recall the sites; I'm sure Google will tell you. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Help a lost lister
Now if we could just get the guns to obey the laws BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Help a lost lister You must not be aware that DC has very strict gun control laws, perhaps the most strict in the nation, so there is nothing to fear there. --R Gary Hurst wrote: why should a government of the people, by the people and for the people have to live in such terror of the people? until that question can be answered in some way other than they have done enough to earn that sort of sentiment, i have no use for washington, dc and no desire to support it in any way. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Help a lost lister
I don't get there often, but let me give a second to the mention of Arlington National Cemetery as a valuable spot to see. It is the one place I chose to visit when I had a spare afternoon. Do a quick read up on the soldiers that man the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. That is a lifelong commitment for them, and is something well worth seeing. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 5:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Help a lost lister Every time I visited DC, which used to be a couple of times a year, I always went to the National Archives to view the Bill of Rights and Constitution for the very first stop. A very, very powerful place. The Vietnam Vet's memorial is good, too, but people don't seem to be as respectful around it as they used to. Since you'll be there a month, definitely get a ticket for the Holocaust Museum. Another very powerful place. Air and Space Museum at the Smithsonian is good, too, but don't go on a weekend - it will be packed. One thing I never realized until I started going there was that the memorials are open 24/7. I went into the city once to take some night photos around the Mall, and I was amazed that there were tour buses pulling up to the Lincoln Memorial at 2:00 in the morning. Be very, very careful about using a cab. If the system is still in place, the cabs are zoned, meaning that if you get the wrong cab, you'll get gouged for going from one zone to another. Dan --- Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jump on the Metro and go into DC - all the museums are free and really cool. You will also need to see Arlington Cemetery, the monuments, the Capitol, White House, etc. And go down to Georgetown for some good drinks and eats and drinks. It is all easy walking or Metro or cabs are cheap. Isn't one of our listers (AS) as DCite? Maybe he can point you in the correct directions. Oh, and the Zoo and Cathedral. Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Help a lost lister
Gary - don't hold back like that, you'll get ulcers. Tell us what you really feel BillR [ducking] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 10:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Help a lost lister ok, you are with a party of 4 and are staying in arlington. you can walk for 15 minutes and take the damn train so you can be where you are going in an hour. this will cost you like 7 bucks. or you can walk into a cab right in front of the hotel and be there in 10 minutes for 12 bucks. it's a no brainer as far as i can see. it's also a disgusting town . every sort of welfare make work government parasite clogging the place up. mass hysteria over whether or not your aged mother is a terrorist. a city so corrupt that it has disarmed decent citizens in an effort to give criminals as much as edge over you as possible. armed hoodlums guarding every street corner as your government fears you mean them harm (little do they know that you are too stupid and complacent to have even thought that far ahead) a disgusting place. the sickest place i've ever seen in my life. On 8/5/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree. If you are willing to walk a few blocks, the metro system will get you almost anywhere you'd need to go (as a tourist). If the subway doesn't go there, you can hop a bus at the subway stop. I worked in DC for almost a decade and don't recall ever taking a cab or driving to anything other than Arlington Cemetery. The only reason we drove in to work (vanpool) was because there wasn't a metro stop as far south as I lived. On 8/5/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cabs are the only way to get around DC -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?
Thanks Mike, but it sounds like the distance and repairs put it out of bounds for my needs. Thanks - BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD? Bill, It needs a tranny, exhaust and bumpers. Other than that it drives nice, brakes are good, runs great, hydro susp. works. I only drove it for a week and the tranny went on me. Has some cancer but not too bad. Fuel tank needs cleaned out or better yet replaced as it is clogging the fuel filter. That's about what i know about it. I am in Montour Falls, NY. Mike Hi Mike - I am in need of a reliable vehicle for my daughter and her three kids for a few months- if this fits the bill. Where are you? BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 292k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD? NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!! Who would like to have my 83 300TD? I'll deliver it within 500 miles for $1000 cash. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?
Price is good, but I would have to get it down here to get it fixed. That would be expensive. You could always move to Atlanta or Jax ... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ernest breakfield Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 1:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD? i had a local SF Bay Area indy tell me last week he doesn't buy 123 diesels that aren't running and in perfect condition anymore; the dearth of Berkeley hippies buying them to run what they think are going to be free biofuels has resulted in a glut of cars that have been trashed by bad fuel(s) and lack of proper maintenance... that combined with the increases in prices of parts and decreasing availability has made the 123s much less desirable. at least that's *his* story... and that was just after he told me he sold his rather beat daily driver TD in a heartbeat when someone offered him $5 out of the blue for it, complaining that he hadn't been able to find one in 6 months of shopping. ;-* cheers! e [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No problem BillI guess I will have to E-bay it. I thought with the price these things go for it would be gone days ago at the price I am asking. Mike Thanks Mike, but it sounds like the distance and repairs put it out of bounds for my needs. Thanks - BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD? Bill, It needs a tranny, exhaust and bumpers. Other than that it drives nice, brakes are good, runs great, hydro susp. works. I only drove it for a week and the tranny went on me. Has some cancer but not too bad. Fuel tank needs cleaned out or better yet replaced as it is clogging the fuel filter. That's about what i know about it. I am in Montour Falls, NY. Mike Hi Mike - I am in need of a reliable vehicle for my daughter and her three kids for a few months- if this fits the bill. Where are you? BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 292k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD? NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!! Who would like to have my 83 300TD? I'll deliver it within 500 miles for $1000 cash. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?
Hi Mike - I am in need of a reliable vehicle for my daughter and her three kids for a few months- if this fits the bill. Where are you? BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 292k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD? NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!! Who would like to have my 83 300TD? I'll deliver it within 500 miles for $1000 cash. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?
OK, you called it before I did - but I think you are a bit out of the 500 miles delivery range ... And I might be also. Mike - I could take delivery in Atlanta also. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD? Yeah I'll have it, delivery it to Adelaide, SA please. Cheers mate - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD? NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!! Who would like to have my 83 300TD? I'll deliver it within 500 miles for $1000 cash. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/935 - Release Date: 3/08/2007 5:46 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rust repair cost
John, the only rust on my '81 300SD was under the rear windshield. I found it when replacing both windshields, and the rear one could not be reinstalled until it was rebuilt. The shop had to cut out and rebuild at least half of the lower shelf. Much worse than yours shows, but no doubt an easier spot to work. It was done well [but not show quality] and the cost was about $400. Decent body shop was $37.50 an hour. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 292k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Rust repair cost I've got a little bit of rust near the top of the windshield. It doesn't look like much, but I'm sure its horrible underneath the windshield seal. Either the rust or a bad seal is causing a *lot* of wind noise and even some water to leak in from that area. I was quoted just under $1000 for this repair (and thats if they can re-use the windshield! Add another 200 for a PPG replacement). The biggest cost was nearly 12 hours of labor for body work, and another 10 hours for paint prep and painting. Unfortunately I think this is in-line for a quality repair... what do you guys think? I'm going to get another quote tomorrow I think. See attached for pictures of the rust. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fixed Costs (taxes insurance, etc.) [wasRe: better hurry...] FL seasons
Hey! We have four seasons in Florida, it's just that they are not all the same length and we call them different things. We have mosquito season, hurricane season, sunstroke/tourist sunburn season, and we usually vote to have Winter on a weekend so everyone can enjoy it. Alternately we use a Thursday if the weekend is booked. BillR Jacksonville, Ocala, Sunrise, Plantation, Davie, Coral Springs - Florida -Original Message- And the climate... I gotta get somewhere that has four seasons. Florida is killing me. Dan Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fixed Costs (taxes insurance, etc.) [wasRe: better hurry...] FL seasons
Well Gerry, I'm half way up to you. We are not far from the river and get the temperature bonus from that, but my GPS says we are at 54 ft. That temp thing works too, but in S. FL that makes Winter occur for an hour or so a couple of days a year. Here in Jax it lasts a lot longer. I really liked Coral Springs best, but I like a happy wife up here even more. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of archer Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixed Costs (taxes insurance,etc.) [wasRe: better hurry...] FL seasons From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey! We have four seasons in Florida, it's just that they are not all the same length and we call them different things. We have mosquito season, hurricane season, sunstroke/tourist sunburn season, and we usually vote to have Winter on a weekend so everyone can enjoy it. Alternately we use a Thursday if the weekend is booked. BillR Jacksonville, Ocala, Sunrise, Plantation, Davie, Coral Springs - Florida -- That's true along the Florida coasts, but up here in the Inverness mountains (my house is 90 ft above sea level!) we calculate the seasons according to the temperature. Over 80 degree its summer, under 60 degrees it's winter, in between its spring or fall. We look at the thermometer instead of the calendar to see what season it is. Dan would be happy if he lived up here. Plenty of teaching jobs, too. Gerry---Florida Hillbilly ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2007
And I am the other way around from Craig. I'd like to come, and Atlanta is way closer - I could even drive there - but not sure if I will be able to come or not. I do have spousal support for going, though. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2007 On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:57:20 -0400 Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are thinking about having RustyQ 2007 in Jefferson, Iowa. Maybe September 15th or 22nd. So I take it that you're coordinating with LT Don, aka Wonko the Sane, and will put it on in his locale instead of his proposed Iowa-Q. In any event, Iowa is easier for me to get to than Atlanta, though I can't say for sure whether I'll be able to make it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]
For that 'soil' you need to do what we do in many parts of the FL Keys. You dig out a hole about the size of a pot and fill it with dirt. Drainage is less a problem with coral than it is with heavy clay, though. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats] Most of the plantings at the home we built in Wisconsin died within the first year. Because we were on a bluff at the shoreline, the ground was heavy (and I mean HEAVY) clay. You could dig a hole, pour a bucket of water in it, and it would take literally weeks to drain (if the water didn't evaporate first.) I kid you not, I bent a shovel blade when trying to dig a hole in the stuff. I even used a hydraulic power auger to drill the holes for my deck footers, and I had to hang on the top of the auger arm to force it into the soil. Dan --- Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably too much water then, and poor drainage. Check the soil -- if soaked, you will have to find a way to get the water to drain. It should be damp, not full of water. Do not water unless the soil is quite dry and the leaves droop. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W126 service CDs and '84 300TDT W123 for sale in Toronto
How much? I'm not looking to move to Toronto, but have family that might end up there very soon. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Bruckmann Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:05 AM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] W126 service CDs and '84 300TDT W123 for sale in Toronto Anyone got an FTP link to the W126 service CDs? Also, I'm transferring to California for a couple of years and need to sell my 1984 W123 300TD, thistle green w. palomino tex interior, 230,000 miles/380,000km. If anyone in Ontario is looking for such a beast (or for a Citroën DS), drop me a note. D. -- David Bruckmann, Toronto, Canada. Current Reality: 1970 Citroen DS21 Pallas (170,000 km) Goettin 1976 Citroen 2CV6 (145,000 km) Piaf http://dolly.bruckmann.com/ 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300TD (385,000 km) Gertraud ** FOR SALE ** 1986 Renault 9 (AMC Alliance) 1.7 (148,000 km) - as yet unnamed Shady Past: 1971 Citroen DS21 Pallas (137,000km), 1972 Citroen DS21 Pallas (502,000km) 1978 Mercedes-Benz 300D (1,200,000 km or thereabouts) Sieglinde 1979 Mercedes-Benz 300TD non-turbo (260,000 km) Diva 1981 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston (120,000km), 1988 Merkur XR4Ti (209,000km) 1981 Peugeot 505 GRD (350,000km), 1985 Toyota Camry The Slamry (330,000km) 2002 VW Golf GLS TDI (74,000 km) -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Florida
No, not a requirement except for bugs, sun, skeeters and mostly for leaves that fall into the pool. I doubt if I would put in a pool without one where I live now. Lots of big trees. Partly I suppose it is also that most everyone seems to have one. There are actually a lot of homes with pools where they are either not needed or folks just didn't want to bother. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 8:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT Florida Could someone clue me in on that whole pool cage thing in Florida? Here in TX we have skeeters and bugs and hot sun and whatever, but no one has those things. Are they a requirement or something? --R LWB250 wrote: Understand that in Florida a pressure washer is pretty much a standard yard implement, like a rake or shovel. With the crap that gets on your walls, sidewalk and screened enclosure over your pool (pool cage) you pretty much have to have a pressure washer to get things clean. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Florida
I wouldn't want to count on a screen keeping a hungry gator out (:D. You should probably stock the pool and yard with those Burmese pythons that are trying to take over the Everglades instead. FWIW, there are a lot of tourists [and natives] who would be surprised to discover how rapidly a gator [even a pretty big one] can climb a chain link fence. BillR Jacksonville FL [now], Plantation, Sunrise, Davie, and Coral Springs in earlier, more Southerly, days. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 10:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Florida Keep the gators out??? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake lines adjunct (Strange Days) - and ALFA's and memory lane
I'm glad to hear that as I loved driving both my '62 Spider and my '70 GTV, but neither of them would start in the morning if someone had spit near them during the night. The grey market GTV was wonderful to drive, especially fast when it was possible, and got 45 mpg at 75 mph with dual Webbers [when they were tuned correctly]. When I sold the GTV and bought a new Chevy Caprice my payments were less than upkeep had been on the Alfa [EXCEPT for gas... '73 Caprice got 13 MPG]. BillR Jacksonville FL 1962 Corvair [minor wreck - got the MB instead!!!] 1962 220Sb [RIP - head on crash at @ 50 mph] 1962 Alfa Spider - long gone 1970 Alfa GTV - long gone 1973 Caprice - swapped even for a 1973 Beetle - hail storm turned that into a golf ball 1979 Bonneville - gave up at 192k miles 1975 Subaru Wagon - RIP the tin-worm at 140k miles 1975 240D - living death when taken over by 3 teenage daughters [teen-age son was too young to drive] 1980 Mazda 929 - finally died at 245k miles *** Assorted non-descript US and imported *** 2001 Infinity I30 91K - Wife's car 1980 300SD 292k miles and going strong - my baby. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake lines adjunct (Strange Days) Just on Sat I saw one of those Alfa GTV6s I think it was -- a buddy of mine bought one of those ages ago after he finished school and got a real job. He really liked it. This one was in nice shape, even the AC was working (I guess, it was about 90F and the guy driving it had the windows up, unless that is some sort of Italian feature, which it no doubt could be). --R Fred Johnson wrote: What am I left driving that has a/c.? The old reliable Alfa (!?). The car that has not let me down in 3 years of ownership. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Linksys USB WiFi
Hi Luther - I am not an expert on these things, but FWIW I use a Linksys system to link to a computer 7 rooms away in M-i-L's attached apartment and don't really have any problems with it. Email comes in while browsing with no problem. Signal strength is almost never over 40% at that distance [several neighbors come into my office stronger]. I am using what sounds like the same system you have - WUSB54, but with an HP tower system that is about two years old. Sounds like you have other problems, and hopefully one of the computer literate listers can help BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 10:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT Linksys USB WiFi I have a Linksys WUSB54 WiFi adapter that drives me nuts. No matter how strong or weak the signal, it cannot handle more than 1 data stream at a time. If I'm browsing/loading a webpage and email hits it's time to check and download, the connection will lock up and the computer has to be restarted. This happens in both Win2k and Xp on my laptop. It's also bluescreened the desktop and that's NEVER happened on Win2k in 5 years of this computer's life. Is this anyone's experience with Linksys, or should I return and purchase another one from Walmart? This is my first Linksys purchase, I've allways had USR/3com and only purchased this after discovering that they are part of Cisco. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Linksys USB WiFi
Occasionally you give one pause to consider the appropriateness of that name... :D BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 10:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Linksys USB WiFi My bologna has a first name, its L-I-N-U-X ... On 7/15/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Linksys WUSB54 WiFi adapter that drives me nuts. No matter how strong or weak the signal, it cannot handle more than 1 data stream at a time. If I'm browsing/loading a webpage and email hits it's time to check and download, the connection will lock up and the computer has to be restarted. This happens in both Win2k and Xp on my laptop. It's also bluescreened the desktop and that's NEVER happened on Win2k in 5 years of this computer's life. Is this anyone's experience with Linksys, or should I return and purchase another one from Walmart? This is my first Linksys purchase, I've allways had USR/3com and only purchased this after discovering that they are part of Cisco. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1980 300D
Thanks one and all - I am really needing a vehicle for a few months, but from other comments I think I going to go with my gut on this one and walk away. Mostly it is the condition of the interior that makes me think that it has not been well maintained. Thanks for the comments. I'll keep looking. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D
The big problem there is 'if'. I'd likely be in OH needing the mechanics I have in VA and FL. Not this time. Thanks though ... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D BillR wrote: Thanks one and all - I am really needing a vehicle for a few months, but from other comments I think I going to go with my gut on this one and walk away. Mostly it is the condition of the interior that makes me think that it has not been well maintained. Thanks for the comments. I'll keep looking. The $2900 '93 looks good on the inside (and outside). Fly up to Cinci and drive it home (if it runs) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ice Road Truckers // Dangerous Catch
On Behalf Of Allan Streib , I've always thougt there was something cool/romantic about working on the sea. Allan That one is a favorite of my Son in law, who worked the USCG rescue boats in those crab beds. I Think 'cool' is a bit of an understatement given all that ice BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds and Bombay cats
Andrew - I looked those up the last time you mentioned them and they do indeed look interesting. How are they with large friendly dogs [[100# yellow lab]? BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] killing weeds To steer this conversation 90 degrees south, we use The World's Best (corn) litter for our two impossibly cute Bombay cats. Has anyone ever tried to throw the used litter into a compost bin? On 7/13/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was going to ask how one could control weeds that grow up through a brick patio (non-mortared). Wonder if the torch idea would be good for us. Torch burns off the foliage but does not kill the roots; they will grow back in short order. I think round-up would be good for what you describe. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D
Thanks - but I don't plan to be in OH anytime soon - Wichita maybe, but not OH. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunil Hari Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D if you're in need of a mechanic in Cincinnati, I can give you my guy's # - he's an all-star. On 7/16/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The big problem there is 'if'. I'd likely be in OH needing the mechanics I have in VA and FL. Not this time. Thanks though ... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D BillR wrote: Thanks one and all - I am really needing a vehicle for a few months, but from other comments I think I going to go with my gut on this one and walk away. Mostly it is the condition of the interior that makes me think that it has not been well maintained. Thanks for the comments. I'll keep looking. The $2900 '93 looks good on the inside (and outside). Fly up to Cinci and drive it home (if it runs) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1980 300D
I am suddenly the transportation for not only my M-i-L, but my daughter and her kids [for a few months]. Lots of fun to see them after a year overseas, but I need some transportation for the kids. A lady near here has a 1980 300D with 176k miles [it is YELLOW]. She says the engine and transmission are fine, though there is a small leak in the tranny. The body looks good except for a bubble of rust at the right side of the rear window [can't tell yet if it goes through or is just starting]. The AC is not working and the RF window is broken out, which also wet the window switches. They do not work. Dash has 5 narrow cracks, front seats are whole but faded MB tex. The rest seems ok. She is asking $995 for it. I am considering having it evaluated by my indy to diagnose the AC and tranny leak. I think these cars last pretty well, but wonder what the main items are to look for. Also, what is involved in replacing the RF window? She has been trying to sell it for some time so should be willing to lower the price. What are your thoughts - anyone have one of those? TIA - BillR 1981 300SD 291k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IowaQ
My darling wife thinks I should do that, though she doesn't want me to drive, so no MB with me. Will follow the thread and see how our lives go. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 291k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List; Banned List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] IowaQ How many would be interested in coming to west-central Iowa in August/September for a get-together? (Jefferson, Iowa) Kleb's apparently not doing an OkieQ this year, so this would be same thing (sans junkyard-backyard) except eight hour north on I-35. I will go with the Biblical model in scheduling: Where three or four are gathered together . -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T
How correct you are. Loved the movie, though their little vehicle was a lot more reliable than my Vanagon ever was. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T It seems than at Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:28:36 -0400, BillR wrote: Looks like some of you got good Vanagons. Mine was supposed to be a very nice model, but quickly was named 'The Anti-Christ' Was that a reference to the Land Rover 88 in The Gods Must Be Crazy? -- Philip Oye, yoy, yoy, yoy, yoy! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T
Actually I think the reference was to the small, slow, hard to start vehicle that was used to rescue the folks when the Land Rover was up a tree. The name just fit so well for that 4 wheel torture device I had - Vanagon GL, if memory serves. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillR Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 5:27 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T How correct you are. Loved the movie, though their little vehicle was a lot more reliable than my Vanagon ever was. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T It seems than at Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:28:36 -0400, BillR wrote: Looks like some of you got good Vanagons. Mine was supposed to be a very nice model, but quickly was named 'The Anti-Christ' Was that a reference to the Land Rover 88 in The Gods Must Be Crazy? -- Philip Oye, yoy, yoy, yoy, yoy! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] the anti-christ in The Gods Must Be Crazy - OT for sure
Those were the prominent ones, but the assistant [who had all the wives, and interpreted for the bushman] got in the small [sounded like one cylinder] four wheel vehicle at about 10 MPH max speed and rescued him. For whatever reason the Rover had to be towed back to their base. It was while this was going on that the bus showed up to take the teacher on to the village. I think. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T It seems than at Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:35:21 -0400, BillR wrote: Actually I think the reference was to the small, slow, hard to start vehicle that was used to rescue the folks when the Land Rover was up a tree. The name just fit so well for that 4 wheel torture device I had - Vanagon GL, if memory serves. It's been a long time since I saw that movie, but I believe the only vehicles in it were the Land Rover 88 series II, some Toyota pickups, an the bus like thing the safari guide fellow drove. -- Philip, wishing he had a winch that could get his pickup up in a tree ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] the anti-christ in The Gods Must Be Crazy - OT for sure
Yes, but I think that was the Rover with the top and doors taken off. I still think I recall a small utility vehicle that sounded like it was a single cylinder. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:27:40 -0500 Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems than at Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:35:21 -0400, BillR wrote: Actually I think the reference was to the small, slow, hard to start vehicle that was used to rescue the folks when the Land Rover was up a tree. The name just fit so well for that 4 wheel torture device I had - Vanagon GL, if memory serves. It's been a long time since I saw that movie, but I believe the only vehicles in it were the Land Rover 88 series II, some Toyota pickups, an the bus like thing the safari guide fellow drove. Didn't it have a Jeep-like thing that was driven by an African non-driver with humorous results? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is this Curt and his new 190? Or is it Marshall?
You have an audience. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is this Curt and his new 190? Or is it Marshall? On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:12:10 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/200707 11/46bf684c/attachment.jpg You may laugh, but I actually did transport two calves that way. A humorous story in its own right, if anyone wants to hear it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the anti-christ in The Gods Must Be Crazy - OT for sure
Guess we will have to watch it once more to find out. There are worse things. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] the anti-christ in The Gods Must Be Crazy - OT for sure On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:08:25 -0400 BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't it have a Jeep-like thing that was driven by an African non-driver with humorous results? Yes, but I think that was the Rover with the top and doors taken off. I recall the Rover (hanging from its winch cable in a tree) being light in color, but the Jeep-like thing being dark in color. I still think I recall a small utility vehicle that sounded like it was a single cylinder. Perhaps we're talking about the same thing. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is this Curt and his new 190? Or is it Marshall?
One point for the sane Don. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is this Curt and his new 190? Or is it Marshall? You have my full attention, but you story had better not be a bunch of bull. On 7/11/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may laugh, but I actually did transport two calves that way. A humorous story in its own right, if anyone wants to hear it. Craig -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Consumption Creeping Up
Robert - The website for auto-rx indicates that the application is for Auto-RxR Automotive Application Instructions For Light-Duty Diesel Engines under 100,000 miles 1. NOTE: This application applies only to the following engines only: Ford PSD (Power Stroke) Chevrolet/GM Duramax and Dodge with Cummins engines Are you saying that it works well for something like my 1981 300SD with 291k miles? Not really having any problems with it, but you never know. Thanks - BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Tara Ludwick Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 4:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Consumption Creeping Up If all the previously mentioned mechanical checks turn up nothing other than blowby, the rings may just be getting a bit dirty. I've had amazing luck with running a couple of treatments of Auto RX through old diesels. It does wonders for cleaning up sticky rings and bringing compression back up. I've even brought a couple of diesels back to life from the boneyard with it ( doesn't always get all of them though, it did bring compression up on my old diesel truck from the mid 100's to 200's , up to 405-420 psi all the way around, but one oil ring on #4 wouldn't unstick for anything on that one and I had to pull the thing ) check out www.auto-rx.com , not snake oil, it really works. Worst thing that can happen is you get a clean engine. -Robert Robert Rentfro wrote: It seems my oil consumption has crept up over the last several months. Now, at 176K miles, it seem to be going through one quart each 600 miles or so. It had been one per 1200 miles for the longest time. Nothing is dripping on the drive. The exhaust looks right but smells a little off (you know what I mean). At last valve adjustment (10K ago or so) there was no chain stretch to speak of. She's running well overall. What do you reckon the deal is? Bob R. '77 300D 176K 91 degrees at 0620 hrs, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Consumption Creeping Up
Let me amend that question - I do not see any indication of it's use if MB's - high mileage yes. Have you used it in a good 5 cylinder diesel? Thanks - BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillR Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 5:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Consumption Creeping Up Robert - The website for auto-rx indicates that the application is for Auto-RxR Automotive Application Instructions For Light-Duty Diesel Engines under 100,000 miles 1. NOTE: This application applies only to the following engines only: Ford PSD (Power Stroke) Chevrolet/GM Duramax and Dodge with Cummins engines Are you saying that it works well for something like my 1981 300SD with 291k miles? Not really having any problems with it, but you never know. Thanks - BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Tara Ludwick Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 4:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Consumption Creeping Up If all the previously mentioned mechanical checks turn up nothing other than blowby, the rings may just be getting a bit dirty. I've had amazing luck with running a couple of treatments of Auto RX through old diesels. It does wonders for cleaning up sticky rings and bringing compression back up. I've even brought a couple of diesels back to life from the boneyard with it ( doesn't always get all of them though, it did bring compression up on my old diesel truck from the mid 100's to 200's , up to 405-420 psi all the way around, but one oil ring on #4 wouldn't unstick for anything on that one and I had to pull the thing ) check out www.auto-rx.com , not snake oil, it really works. Worst thing that can happen is you get a clean engine. -Robert Robert Rentfro wrote: It seems my oil consumption has crept up over the last several months. Now, at 176K miles, it seem to be going through one quart each 600 miles or so. It had been one per 1200 miles for the longest time. Nothing is dripping on the drive. The exhaust looks right but smells a little off (you know what I mean). At last valve adjustment (10K ago or so) there was no chain stretch to speak of. She's running well overall. What do you reckon the deal is? Bob R. '77 300D 176K 91 degrees at 0620 hrs, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Consumption Creeping Up
Don't plan to at the moment, I just like to have options if such should happen. Engine seems good and strong, oil pressure drops to 2.8 when hot and sitting at a light, otherwise it stays at 3.0. Delvac for the last 40k miles [since I have had it] I think things are good for now. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 5:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Consumption Creeping Up If you are Not really having any problems with your engine, don't put any additives/cleaners/snake-oil into it. BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robert - The website for auto-rx indicates that the application is for Auto-RxR Automotive Application Instructions For Light-Duty Diesel Engines under 100,000 miles 1. NOTE: This application applies only to the following engines only: Ford PSD (Power Stroke) Chevrolet/GM Duramax and Dodge with Cummins engines Are you saying that it works well for something like my 1981 300SD with 291k miles? Not really having any problems with it, but you never know. Thanks - BillR -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '89 560SEL
Hi - I'm still looking for a reasonably cheap vehicle for my daughter to drive while awaiting the ability to buy Donald's 300SEL. A guy a few miles South of me has a 1989 560SEL with 200,080 miles and 'needs some Freon'. I know these can be expensive to get into decent shape if not cared for properly. What should I look for should I go check this one out? He says that one of the widows needs 'some gear thing', and is asking $2,200. I have owned this car since Christmas of 2005 and must part with it at this price for the next 24 hours only. The front seats on bottom need recovering...they have duct tape covering the leather. Belts, hoses, water pump, and valve cover gaskets replaced approx 800 miles ago. HI again there is a small dent that can be popped out on the hood noticeable when one looks at an angle. Also one on the rear part on the side also barely noticeable but there. I would put in some refridgerant in the A.C. as I never have and this summer it needs it. Accsessories all work however the driver's window needs a gear piece replaced I would figure on five hundred at a dealer. NO rust good stereo central vacuum etc and it would be a lot eaiser to just talk by phone for any other details, the sunroof is just fine and never leaks or makes any unusual noises Never had any failures or troubles. Enjoy, I have. Stephen Thanks - Bill ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL
Thanks Hendrik - I might discover a new way to live high on the hog If I like it I will be taking it to my nephew to check out. That all depends on IF this latest attempt [with an expanding ball] to clear my kitchen drain works. My Darling wife dumped two quarts of leftover ham salad down the sink [and we have had that discussion before]. All clear for the first 8', the a 90 degree down to another 90 degree and nothing I could find would get there. NOTE to other DIY'ers: those expanding ball drain clearers [or at least the ones I used] did nothing until I turned on the hot water. Then it expanded. Have not re installed all the pipes yet to see if it worked, but it sounded like it did. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 291k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL Nothing more expensive than a cheap Merc. Check for rust, auto tranny operation and how the engine starts cold. A new seat base and window winder are small fry in the scheme of things. The air con could be just a couple of O rings or more expesnive than that but no way of telling until the system has some dye in it. For 2.2k you can't expect too much when you are buying a car that was a lot of money to buy new. Although if you do end up buying this car, check for drugs throughout it. Apparently these machines are favoured by middle level drug dealers due to the status and performance. You do hear urban legends about people buying used top end luxury cars and finding stuff like drugs, money and/or guns hidden within them. - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] '89 560SEL Hi - I'm still looking for a reasonably cheap vehicle for my daughter to drive while awaiting the ability to buy Donald's 300SEL. A guy a few miles South of me has a 1989 560SEL with 200,080 miles and 'needs some Freon'. I know these can be expensive to get into decent shape if not cared for properly. What should I look for should I go check this one out? He says that one of the widows needs 'some gear thing', and is asking $2,200. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T
Looks like some of you got good Vanagons. Mine was supposed to be a very nice model, but quickly was named 'The Anti-Christ' and continued to earn that name for the year I had it. I think the door handles worked pretty well, but other than that about all I can say is it didn't kill me. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T On 7/10/07, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vanagons have the evaporator hung from the ceiling in the rear, with a long channel of ductwork carrying the cool air all the way forward. Hey, my mom has a Vanagon with that system. I always thought that even if it doesn't cool all that well, at least you can get at the evaporator easily if it leaks! But where's the condensor, I wonder? In the front with the radiator? Are there R-12 pipes running under the car alongside those ridiculously long coolant lines that always leak? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo and several other cars with the engine at the right end ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL
For you, substitute celery stalks and other appropriate veggies that could clog a drain. A combination of a drain cleaner so strong that a couple of drops burned two $.50 size holes in a shop towel, and the expanding ball insert directly off the 220 pump finally opened it up. 3 hardware stores, 4 days of on and off working on it and almost $100 later it is good as new. I don't ever want to see ham salad again, even in pictures. The 560SEL looks nice, but I never knew they were 5 cylinder engines. At least that is all the ones that were firing on this one. Interior was fair to good, body good, but AC control problems and a questionable AC system, and @$400 for a professional tune up [ok, I would probably try that myself] to find out if the AC was shutting off from a rev sensor, plus the other problems mentioned. Some of the hoses also looked to be cracking. I took a lesson from our list mom and told him for $700 [had to outbid Kaleb] maybe it would be worth a chance, but not the $2,200 he was asking. My guess is he will just keep it to spite folks like me. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL Yet another reason my diet is 99% vegetarian (non-meat but love that seafood!). On 7/10/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Darling wife dumped two quarts of leftover ham salad down the sink [and we have had that discussion before]. All clear for the first 8', the a 90 degree down to another 90 degree and nothing I could find would get there. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT boredom?
Just think, you could be one careless driver away from being one of your clients. My darling wife missed being unable to speak by about 1/2 inch when a car pulled out in front of her on her small scooter. Wear the helmet. But you already know that. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 11:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT boredom? 50% are insane. 49% are retarded. 1% have brain injuries, which is what _I_ will be if I keep zooming around on my motorcycle sans helmet. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D Geno
Always happy to hear a new voice. You can learn just about anything you need to know about MB's, and join discussions on about anything else, on the list. Our list mom will let you know if you go too far off-topic. I spent a pleasant week in Des Moines a few years ago, but without a car didn't get far from the convention center. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 291k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gene Ford Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 10:15 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 190D Geno Hi Everyone, 1st time Mercedes and Diesel owner. 1984 190D, 2.2 ,Dark Blue, 204k miles, Thank you to JR,Miss Gene Ford Des Moines,IA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Spade a Spade - it's a BMW thread
Curt - you could do it like my son did. He bought a '90 with an engine he didn't particularly want and an automatic. He cleaned it up and sold the hard top for about half of what he paid for the car, then rented it for three months [to a lady who was being shipped overseas] to recover the rest of his investment. He then made contacts with a Miata group and bought a desired engine and 5 speed transmission cheap from a kid who had wrecked his Miata. He added a turbo to end up with a quite nice looking and well performing car. I'm not sure where his mechanical abilities come from [mine are far less], but I'm glad he has them. He really does not look like the mailman BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Freer Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Spade a Spade - it's a BMW thread H, candidates for a Monster Miata? Now that would be fun. Small block V8 and I understand there are plenty of kits available. On 7/5/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: I think the Miata is one of the nicest sports cars around. A friend has one in black that I think is stunning. They fit like a glove too. I'd like to have one if I could sneak it past the wife (well that and if our mortgage didn't dictate no toy purchases). 15 year old MX-5s are getting to be like 25 year old 300SDs, pricewise. There's a seemingly good one (~140kmi) advertised locally for $3500. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Spade a Spade - it's a BMW thread
Dan - My son is 6'2 also, and does well with his, but he has lowered seats. His wife is fairly short, but her head topped above the roll bar, so he got a lowered seat for her side so the roll bar will actually protect them - should it be needed ... I'm 5'10 and it works well for me - I just have problems getting in and especially getting out. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 4:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Spade a Spade - it's a BMW thread I think Mazda has a thing about people taller than 6 feet. I say that because I couldn't fit in a Miata if I tried (I'm 6'2.) I was serious considering a Mazda 8 a couple of years ago when we bought the wife's Mazda 6, but I couldn't fit in the damned thing. Even with the seat all the way back my head was touching the roof. Dan --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Freer wrote: H, candidates for a Monster Miata? Now that would be fun. Small block V8 and I understand there are plenty of kits available. I remember the Monster w/302 Ford. I'd rather keep it Mazda with a 13B turbo rotary engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Spade a Spade - it's a BMW thread
I have not gotten as far as actually sitting in one, but if it is much like the Miata I wouldn't want to try it. I went with a friend who was shopping for an exotic, and when he suggested I sit in one of them I discovered I could not twist myself in the ways needed to get all the way in. Guess it is a good thing such items are out of my price range. I don't do well getting up from the seat of his Miata. His is fitted with special seats to lower them in relation to the roll bar [he is tall] and has the 5 point harness. Fun to ride in except for the getting in and out part, but too cramped for me to drive easily - in addition to the engine modifications he has added that make it a bit peppier than my 300SD ... . I will try one out a Z3 one of these days, but will not be in a hurry to do so. Maybe my age and condition suggest a MB coupe. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ned kleinhenz Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 11:30 AM To: Mercedes List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Spade a Spade - it's a BMW thread Bill: I don't think there is much difference between a Z3 and a Miata in terms of room for getting (climbing) in and out. If you spot a Z3 for sale, you might stop and try climbing into it to see for yourself. The roadster I remember being particularly difficult to contort my middle aged body into is the S2000. Incidently, I considered a Miata and believe it too would be a good choice. Miata is smaller than a Z3 (or Boxter, SLC, S2000 etc), and IMHO it handles the best - like a go cart. And I expect it requires less repair than any of the German choices. But for my purposes, a Miata is too much like the MG's and Triumphs I fooled around with in my youth, when I wished I could afford a Jag E-type or a Healy 3000. My Z3 is more like those bigger, more powerful roadsters. YMMV. Ned K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic car unless the design and execution has been proven
It turned out that one of the best features of our Mazda 929 [first year of production] was that the timing belt specs were wrong. It was listed as a resistance engine, and when the timing belt broke we were prepared for the worst. A new timing belt and off it went. Thankfully that one was better than advertised. We got 265k miles out of that car and all but the last few thousand were quite nice. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 4:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Banned List Subject: Re: [MBZ] why you can't even in this day buy any domestic carunless the design and execution has been proven One thing I really liked about my VW Jetta (8v engine) was that it was non-interference. Broken timing belt would leave you on the side of the road, but not needing a new engine. Unfortunately I don't think very many engines are non-interference anymore. Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GM plays the exact same games today that they played 30 years ago. you would think that they'd have learned something, but then again you'd think we learned something from vietnam as well. seems nobody can learn anything new http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/saturn_engine.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list
With cold I think it is the wind that makes the difference - humidity is not much of a factor when it gets cold [? I don't think, except for snow and sleet]. A friend from a Paraguay says they used to lie in the sun and tan when it was in the 20's - shorts only, when the wind was dead calm. Not a problem to stay warm as long as you didn't move much. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list I used to see t-shirts in Tucson that showed a skeleton next to a sahuaro and some tumbleweed. The skeleton was proclaiming that it was a dry heat. 110 + temps are really not bad unless you have to work in them or do something unpleasant. I suppose sub zero days are not bad either unless I have to go to work in them. I think the LCD is that I hate work. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list
Quite interesting for me, anyway. Thanks BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 2:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 10:38:54 -0700 Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, wind + cold = evil. To this day, I still don't know how it works with humidity and cold. I've been told that humidity makes it feel colder, but I have been told the opposite too. When my father was in the Naval reserve, he traveled from Miles City, Montana, which was -30 F to Tacoma, Washington, which was +30 F. He said it felt colder on the dock in Tacoma in the same clothing. Through all my MN winters, I couldn't figure it out. I do know, though, that one's skin gets very dry there in the winter. I'm sure some of the scientifically-inclined will chime in and answer my mystery, yes? Yes. Your skin gets dry, not because you're outside when it's cold, but because you're inside when it's cold. Humidity is actually RELATIVE humidity: the percent humidity is relative to how much water vapor air at a given temperature will hold [not the actual terminology, but a useful first understanding, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_humidity]. So a relative humidity of 30% means that the air is holding 30% of the amount of water it can possibly hold at that temperature. Now it turns out, that the hotter it is, the more water vapor the air can hold. That is, say the air is 40 F. At 100% humidity, the amount of water in the air will be about 8 grams per kilogram of air. If the air is 104 F, 100% humidity will mean 50 grams water per kilogram of air. Likewise, if the air is -4 F, 100% humidity will mean about 2 grams water per kilogram of air. So, say it's -4 F and 50% humidity outside. That means there is 1 gram of water per kilogram of air. Now you bring the air inside and warm it up to 68 F. At this temperature, 100% humidity would mean about 14 grams of water per kilogram of air, but you have only 1 gram of water per kilogram of air. Thus the humidity inside is 1/14 = 7% and it's MUCH drier. Does that help? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Spade a Spade - it's a BMW thread
Ned - I have been playing with the idea of getting a Z3. How has it been to own? BillR 1981 300SD 292k 2001 I30 89k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ned kleinhenz Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:02 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Spade a Spade - it's a BMW thread I'm very relieved to see this thread was mostly tongue in cheek. It started out sounding like the ultimate in stereotyping and prejudice. Indeed, Mercedes owners calling bimmer owners arrogant and pretentious is ridiculous. Personality depends upon the owner, not the car. I own both brands. And both are excellent marques, but for different reasons. Working on both is similar. And BMW is almost as durable as MB. When I need to drive something roomy, comfortable and reliable I start up my (extremely used) E300D. When I want to drive something really fun, I take out my (very used) Z3 Roadster.. Ned K '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD '89 325 iC '00 Z3 2.8 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Spade a Spade - it's a BMW thread
Thanks, Ned. I need to replace a 'big' car first for my wife [hopefully with Donald's 300SEL], then if the $$ hold out I may well look for one. My son has a '90 Miata that he enjoys driving, but he was a mechanic prior to his current incarnation as a computer guru for the USAF, and can do everything himself. I'm not so gifted. The problem with the Miata is that I would need to install a lift where the back seat should be to get me in and out of the thing. The Z3 looks a bit more accessible for an old man while still fun to drive. I'm due for another trip down the Blue Ridge Parkway. BillR Jacksonville FL 19881 300SD 291k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ned kleinhenz Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 11:50 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Spade a Spade - it's a BMW thread BillR wrote- I have been playing with the idea of getting a Z3. How has it been to own? Bill: I have a 2.8 liter Roadster with a five speed, and it is a circus to drive. I have owned it since late October, and put about 10k miles on it, so far. I garaged it about 3 months, last winter. I wanted some type of sports car and found Z3 to be the most cost effective when compared to Boxter and Honda S2000, and MB SLC (used cars about 5 to 10 years old). Performace of a six cylinder Z3 is very comparable to those cars I compared it with. The real excitement is in its acceleration. It has a torque curve shaped like the one for my 606 diesel (Z3 has a much higher power to weight ratio). It can pin you back against the seat anytime you step on the gas above 2500 rpm. And of course it handles ... like a BMW. The first week I had it it, it threw a water pump bearing and damaged some cooling system stuff. After towing it home, I fixed it in a few hours with $100 in parts for some place called Buy Euro Parts.com. Since then, I've had only a few and minor things to fix. I've driven Merecedes for 23 years, and I know them well. I've only driven this Z3 for about 8 months. So the jury is still out if you're asking if I would recommend one. However, my student son has had an '89 E30 (325iC) for about 4-5 years. And we've had very good luck with that car. I guess that is why, as an MB afficionado, I still defend BMW. Cheers, Ned K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list -hijacked to just plain cold
Yes, it does. There is a qualitative difference at about 7 to 10F, when the corners of your mouth and eyes start to ice up. It got down to -24F once where I lived in Indiana, and walking around outside is quite different from 10F. I drove 65 miles on the interstate that day and my car was sending out as much vapor clouds when I got done as it did when I started the car. My eldest is moving to Alaska in a few months [with our soon to be born granddaughter], and they need to get the cars ready for as much as -70F for some winter travel for supplies, though where they will live does not get much colder than it does here in Jacksonville [USCG station in Valdez]. At 10F at least you don't have to worry about the differential freezing solid on you or the flat spot on the tires becoming permanent. I liked living in S. Florida, personally, though my Spanish was not good enough to spend much time in Miami. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 291k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 11:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list Believe me, when it gets below about 10F, it doesn't make any difference. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's da bomb
Perhaps that explains why they were willing to blow it up BillR Jacksonville FL Sunil askedlike a 124 - how do terrorists have style? I agree it was a 124 - same color as mine - but they don't have style - it wasn't a diesel! ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
