Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I thought the optimal  sleeping temperature was 63 degrees.
On Dec 19, 2015 6:46 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Right, and cheaper oil means more people will be able to effectively heat
> their homes.
> A study ( look at the author, cough, cough) back in 1997 showed that
> better heat at home and in the workplace leads to lower rates of
> cardiovascular related deaths:
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9307350/
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 19, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The biggest killer in North America is heart disease. If you really want
> to save lives go there. I couldn't find any real statistics for train
> accidents that were limited to just the US but even looking at the list
> worldwide it was a really small number...
> > Polluting somebody's water supply might not kill them but it puts a
> crimp in their quality of life.
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> >  From: Greg Fiorentino 
> > To: 'Curt Raymond' ; 'Mercedes Discussion List' <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 8:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > I don't have comparative statistics (not so easy to find unbiased info),
> but
> > my impression is that rail shipments go through populated areas and have
> > killed many people. One incident I read about in Quebec killed 47. The
> stuff
> > I read about pipelines is that they pollute when there are leaks, and
> that
> > the leaks are fewer, but spill more oil. My bias goes to saving more
> lives.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
> > Raymond via Mercedes
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:13 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Curt Raymond
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of
> > the big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was
> > sensitive ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> >   From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
> > To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
> > Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > The important thing is that rail transport of petroleum is dangerous.
> Look
> > at the number of disasters this has caused. Pipeline is much safer. The
> oil
> > will be moved somehow.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb C.
> > Striplin via Mercedes
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:11 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing
> > he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
> > company.
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >>> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into
> an
> > oil company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone
> project
> > after all.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Right, and cheaper oil means more people will be able to effectively heat their 
homes.
A study ( look at the author, cough, cough) back in 1997 showed that better 
heat at home and in the workplace leads to lower rates of cardiovascular 
related deaths:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9307350/

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 19, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The biggest killer in North America is heart disease. If you really want to 
> save lives go there. I couldn't find any real statistics for train accidents 
> that were limited to just the US but even looking at the list worldwide it 
> was a really small number...
> Polluting somebody's water supply might not kill them but it puts a crimp in 
> their quality of life.
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Greg Fiorentino 
> To: 'Curt Raymond' ; 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
>  
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 8:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> 
> I don't have comparative statistics (not so easy to find unbiased info), but
> my impression is that rail shipments go through populated areas and have
> killed many people. One incident I read about in Quebec killed 47. The stuff
> I read about pipelines is that they pollute when there are leaks, and that
> the leaks are fewer, but spill more oil. My bias goes to saving more lives.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
> Raymond via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:13 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Curt Raymond
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> 
> Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of
> the big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was
> sensitive ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
>       From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
> To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'  
> Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
>   
> The important thing is that rail transport of petroleum is dangerous. Look
> at the number of disasters this has caused. Pipeline is much safer. The oil
> will be moved somehow.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C.
> Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:11 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> 
> Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing
> he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
> company.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>>> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>>> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an
> oil company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project
> after all.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[clay via Mercedes]

We have too much crude on hand and not enough ability to process it for 
domestic use.  At current prices (retail) the industry loses money if that 
floods the market.  The consumer is at the mercy of the industry.   petro folks 
can not stop production or reduce it more than it is at the moment.  Product 
has to go someplace.

clay


On Dec 18, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

> I don't think we should be exporting oil, it is a limited resource that will 
> one day run out and we need to keep it for ourselves.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Nansky Peloski, that noted marxist, just made a sensible statement.
>> 
>> She said it makes more sense to export finished products than to export 
>> crude oil.
>> 
>> The sky must be falling when that bimbo says something intelligent.
>> 
>> I agree with Nansky Peloski
>> 
>> So the end of the world is near
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew, Please note:  I did not change my view or belief.  Nansky Peloski 
>> did.
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The biggest killer in North America is heart disease. If you really want to 
save lives go there. I couldn't find any real statistics for train accidents 
that were limited to just the US but even looking at the list worldwide it was 
a really small number...
Polluting somebody's water supply might not kill them but it puts a crimp in 
their quality of life.
-Curt

 

  From: Greg Fiorentino 
 To: 'Curt Raymond' ; 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
 
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 8:01 PM
 Subject: RE: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
   
I don't have comparative statistics (not so easy to find unbiased info), but
my impression is that rail shipments go through populated areas and have
killed many people. One incident I read about in Quebec killed 47. The stuff
I read about pipelines is that they pollute when there are leaks, and that
the leaks are fewer, but spill more oil. My bias goes to saving more lives.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
Raymond via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:13 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of
the big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was
sensitive ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
-Curt

 

      From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'  
Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
  
The important thing is that rail transport of petroleum is dangerous. Look
at the number of disasters this has caused. Pipeline is much safer. The oil
will be moved somehow.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C.
Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:11 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
 wrote:
> 
> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing
he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
company.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an
oil company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project
after all.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Gotta throw the b.s. flag on that, relative is an engineer "in the 
business" and explained how the oil is sent in measured slugs, water 
between slugs, and the size of each slug is known and transmitted to 
the receiving end.  When somebody's slug is short, they immediately 
know they have a problem, usually even before receiving the slug 
they would see a pressure drop.  The valve timing at the receiving 
end has to be very precise to separate the slugs.  "This is Joey's 
oil, goes into that tank.  Next is Bob's oil, goes into this tank" 
24 / 7 operation, somebody (usually many somebody's) are there ALL 
the time, making sure the oil goes to the right place.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On December 18, 2015 11:53:39 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:

There have been quite a few pipeline ruptures lately.  Problem is, once

 >they break no one is awake or on call to shut off the flow.






+1

that is true.  In my limited experience with a propane pipeline, the 
operators immediately saw the drop in pressure, but instead of 
calling out crews to shut off the valves, they decided at 2 am it was 
easier to blame the pressure drop on instrumentation than to call out 
2 guys to shut off 2 valves.  The result was 3-4 dead.  Neighbors had 
to  find the valves, cut the chains and shut off the valves


The resultant explosion was heard 80 to 100 miles away.  Any 
surviving wildlife cleared out for a mile or two around, and it was 
20 years before much but sparrows came around again.


Propane pipelines are ticking timebombs, but still MUCH safer than 
warrens railroads.


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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Gotta throw the b.s. flag on that, relative is an engineer "in the business" 
and explained how the oil is sent in measured slugs, water between slugs, and 
the size of each slug is known and transmitted to the receiving end.  When 
somebody's slug is short, they immediately know they have a problem, usually 
even before receiving the slug they would see a pressure drop.  The valve 
timing at the receiving end has to be very precise to separate the slugs.  
"This is Joey's oil, goes into that tank.  Next is Bob's oil, goes into this 
tank"  24 / 7 operation, somebody (usually many somebody's) are there ALL the 
time, making sure the oil goes to the right place.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On December 18, 2015 11:53:39 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>There have been quite a few pipeline ruptures lately.  Problem is, once
>they break no one is awake or on call to shut off the flow.
>


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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

OK Don wrote:

 Yup - don't you love the free market?


Free Market?  Do we know free market?  I don't think we know what free
market is about.  We are taught that this is free market but some say
this is not free market really, i.e. too many convoluted regulations
giving preferences to some but not all.  That is what I hear.
mao


you hear right.

not many free markets in this country since about 1910.  Maybe before

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Yup - don't you love the free market?

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:




 Isn't the option they are taking now to pipe or ship the oil to the

 Canadian west coast?



 > and is shipped to china


It is NOT free market when the pols stick their fingers in it!

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I don't have comparative statistics (not so easy to find unbiased info), but
my impression is that rail shipments go through populated areas and have
killed many people. One incident I read about in Quebec killed 47. The stuff
I read about pipelines is that they pollute when there are leaks, and that
the leaks are fewer, but spill more oil. My bias goes to saving more lives.

Greg


But warren wants it to go on his RR, so no pipelines as long as the 
pols live on donations.


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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

There have been quite a few pipeline ruptures lately.  Problem is, once
they break no one is awake or on call to shut off the flow.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:50 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Last time I studied this (admittedly in the 70s), pipelines were much safer
> than rail or road.  This was in SoCal so I'm pretty sure geological
> instability was a consideration.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 8:02 PM
> > To: 'Curt Raymond' ; 'Mercedes Discussion List'
> > 
> > Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > I don't have comparative statistics (not so easy to find unbiased info),
> but my
> > impression is that rail shipments go through populated areas and have
> killed
> > many people. One incident I read about in Quebec killed 47. The stuff I
> read
> > about pipelines is that they pollute when there are leaks, and that the
> leaks
> > are fewer, but spill more oil. My bias goes to saving more lives.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:13 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Curt Raymond
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of
> the
> > big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was sensitive
> > ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> >   From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
> >  To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
> > Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
> >  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:09 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > The important thing is that rail transport of petroleum is dangerous.
> Look
> at
> > the number of disasters this has caused. Pipeline is much safer. The oil
> will be
> > moved somehow.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Kaleb C.
> > Striplin via Mercedes
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:11 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last
> > > thing
> > he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
> > company.
> > >
> > > --R
> > >
> > >> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into
> > >> an
> > oil company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone
> > project after all.
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[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Last time I studied this (admittedly in the 70s), pipelines were much safer
than rail or road.  This was in SoCal so I'm pretty sure geological
instability was a consideration.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 8:02 PM
> To: 'Curt Raymond' ; 'Mercedes Discussion List'
> 
> Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> 
> I don't have comparative statistics (not so easy to find unbiased info),
but my
> impression is that rail shipments go through populated areas and have
killed
> many people. One incident I read about in Quebec killed 47. The stuff I
read
> about pipelines is that they pollute when there are leaks, and that the
leaks
> are fewer, but spill more oil. My bias goes to saving more lives.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:13 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Curt Raymond
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> 
> Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of
the
> big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was sensitive
> ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
>   From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
> Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
>  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:09 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> 
> The important thing is that rail transport of petroleum is dangerous. Look
at
> the number of disasters this has caused. Pipeline is much safer. The oil
will be
> moved somehow.
> 
> Greg
> 
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> Striplin via Mercedes
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> 
> Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> > His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last
> > thing
> he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
> company.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> >> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into
> >> an
> oil company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone
> project after all.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

OK Don wrote:
> Yup - don't you love the free market?

Free Market?  Do we know free market?  I don't think we know what free
market is about.  We are taught that this is free market but some say
this is not free market really, i.e. too many convoluted regulations
giving preferences to some but not all.  That is what I hear.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yup - don't you love the free market?

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> Isn't the option they are taking now to pipe or ship the oil to the
>> Canadian west coast?
>>
>>
> and is shipped to china
>



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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Okie Don sez:  The pipeline would have terminated at Cushing, OK - 
right in the center of

the current record breaking earthquake activity - how safe is that for a
pipeline?  There is no "safe" way to move large quantities of anything, so
you make your choice and live with the consequences. Isn't the option they
are taking now to pipe or ship the oil to the Canadian west coast?



and is shipped to china

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I don't have comparative statistics (not so easy to find unbiased info), but
my impression is that rail shipments go through populated areas and have
killed many people. One incident I read about in Quebec killed 47. The stuff
I read about pipelines is that they pollute when there are leaks, and that
the leaks are fewer, but spill more oil. My bias goes to saving more lives.

Greg

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Raymond via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:13 PM
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Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of
the big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was
sensitive ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
-Curt

 

  From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
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Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
   
The important thing is that rail transport of petroleum is dangerous. Look
at the number of disasters this has caused. Pipeline is much safer. The oil
will be moved somehow.

Greg

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Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:11 AM
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Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
 wrote:
> 
> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing
he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
company.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an
oil company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project
after all.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yup - - - just waiting for the pipes to crack . . .
The tank farm is one of our landmarks for navigation, and is marked on the
aeronautical charts.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Isn't Cushing where all the pipelines converge?  Huge storage tank farms?
> Where the "Henry Hub" is for gas?
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Isn't Cushing where all the pipelines converge?  Huge storage tank 
farms?  Where the "Henry Hub" is for gas?


--R

On 12/18/15 5:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

The pipeline would have terminated at Cushing, OK - right in the center of
the current record breaking earthquake activity - how safe is that for a
pipeline?  There is no "safe" way to move large quantities of anything, so
you make your choice and live with the consequences. Isn't the option they
are taking now to pipe or ship the oil to the Canadian west coast?

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of
the big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was
sensitive ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
-Curt







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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The pipeline would have terminated at Cushing, OK - right in the center of
the current record breaking earthquake activity - how safe is that for a
pipeline?  There is no "safe" way to move large quantities of anything, so
you make your choice and live with the consequences. Isn't the option they
are taking now to pipe or ship the oil to the Canadian west coast?

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of
> the big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was
> sensitive ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
> -Curt
>
>


-- 
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of the 
big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was sensitive 
ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
-Curt

 

  From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'  
Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
   
The important thing is that rail transport of petroleum is dangerous. Look
at the number of disasters this has caused. Pipeline is much safer. The oil
will be moved somehow.

Greg

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Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:11 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
 wrote:
> 
> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing
he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
company.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an
oil company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project
after all.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

The important thing is that rail transport of petroleum is dangerous. Look
at the number of disasters this has caused. Pipeline is much safer. The oil
will be moved somehow.

Greg

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Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
 wrote:
> 
> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing
he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
company.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an
oil company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project
after all.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Yup, they dealt with the whole thing as badly as could be imagined and 
basically got smacked around for it. I suspect another company could run 
essentially the same pipeline, be honest, offer to work with landowners, and 
get away with it.
-Curt
 

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 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 4:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
   
I tool real offense at the idea that some used about how it was going to create 
jobs.  Maybe temporary construction jobs, but once the pipeline was completed, 
the number of jobs tied to its operation would be relatively small.  When the 
proponents were pressed about this, they finally agreed that in the long term 
it might create 100 jobs.

Yeah.

Dan

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The people of Nebraska REALLY didn't want it. The company building the 
> pipeline made a huge mistake threatening the people of Nebraska with eminent 
> domain. They basically got told they could take their domain and shove it. 
> Without Nebraska onboard Keystone XL was pretty much in trouble. Obama 
> followed the will of the people of Nebraska.
> Whats funny is that most of those who really fought it in Nebraska said 
> they'd probably have worked with the pipeline folks if they hadn't been 
> threatened at the start...
> -Curt
> 
> 

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I tool real offense at the idea that some used about how it was going to create 
jobs.  Maybe temporary construction jobs, but once the pipeline was completed, 
the number of jobs tied to its operation would be relatively small.  When the 
proponents were pressed about this, they finally agreed that in the long term 
it might create 100 jobs.

Yeah.

Dan

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The people of Nebraska REALLY didn't want it. The company building the 
> pipeline made a huge mistake threatening the people of Nebraska with eminent 
> domain. They basically got told they could take their domain and shove it. 
> Without Nebraska onboard Keystone XL was pretty much in trouble. Obama 
> followed the will of the people of Nebraska.
> Whats funny is that most of those who really fought it in Nebraska said 
> they'd probably have worked with the pipeline folks if they hadn't been 
> threatened at the start...
> -Curt
> 
> 

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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The people of Nebraska REALLY didn't want it. The company building the pipeline 
made a huge mistake threatening the people of Nebraska with eminent domain. 
They basically got told they could take their domain and shove it. Without 
Nebraska onboard Keystone XL was pretty much in trouble. Obama followed the 
will of the people of Nebraska.
Whats funny is that most of those who really fought it in Nebraska said they'd 
probably have worked with the pipeline folks if they hadn't been threatened at 
the start...
-Curt

 

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Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
   
Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing he 
> wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline company.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an oil 
>> company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project 
>> after all.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Well, hasn't turning us back into a colony been the whole objective  
since Nixon?  Trade raw materials for finished goods?


Stupid idea, we should have been selling cars and home goods TO China,  
not FROM China


Peter

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Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H

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> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing he 
> wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline company.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an oil 
>> company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project 
>> after all.
> 
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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It is needed to feed and power everything

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> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:01 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, there's a good reason why the federal government keeps a strategic 
> petroleum reserve but doesn't have a strategic Mercedes reserve.  Oil is 
> needed to power the war machine.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On December 18, 2015 12:47:41 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> The thing is its not "ours" it belongs to whoever owns the oil rights
>> to the property until its pulled up out of the ground, then it belongs
>> to the oil company. They should be able to do whatever they want with
>> it. You don't want anybody telling you who you can and cannot sell
>> parts to right?
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
>> 
>> I don't think we should be exporting oil, it is a limited resource that
>> will one day run out and we need to keep it for ourselves.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nansky Peloski, that noted marxist, just made a sensible statement.
>>> 
>>> She said it makes more sense to export finished products than to
>> export crude oil.
>>> 
>>> The sky must be falling when that bimbo says something intelligent.
>>> 
>>> I agree with Nansky Peloski
>>> 
>>> So the end of the world is near
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Andrew, Please note:  I did not change my view or belief.  Nansky
>> Peloski did.
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Keystone pipeline - moving Canadian oil to our gulf coast refineries so the
Canadians can sell the finished product to China  - - - sounds like a plan
to me.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing
> he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
> company.
>
>
-- 
OK Don

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing 
he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline 
company.


--R

On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an oil 
company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project after 
all.



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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Max sez:

>‎Oil is needed to power the war >machine.

Good luck with that. I suspect most of the electronics, steel, etc. needed ‎in 
a World War situation are imported from countries who would be our enemies. Not 
good. 

(insert mao's standard banned sig)

As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an oil 
company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project after 
all. 

Cui Bono. 
Always look at who benefits. 

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Or when they want to use the strategic oil reserve to lower gas prices.
-Curt

 

  From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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Cc: Mitch Haley 
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 1:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
   


> On December 18, 2015 at 1:01 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, there's a good reason why the federal government keeps a strategic
> petroleum reserve but doesn't have a strategic Mercedes reserve.  Oil is
> needed to power the war machine.

What I like is when they keep buying at $100 a bbl, and then some idiot
congresscritter wants to sell some of it for $40 a bbl to fund some foolish
scheme of his. 

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 18, 2015 at 1:01 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, there's a good reason why the federal government keeps a strategic
> petroleum reserve but doesn't have a strategic Mercedes reserve.  Oil is
> needed to power the war machine.

What I like is when they keep buying at $100 a bbl, and then some idiot
congresscritter wants to sell some of it for $40 a bbl to fund some foolish
scheme of his. 

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Personal property rights are a hallmark of our country. To make it "our" oil 
would mean nationalization of the oil industry. Countries that do that are 
usually called Communist.

-Curt

 

  From: Max Dillon 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 1:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
   
Well, there's a good reason why the federal government keeps a strategic 
petroleum reserve but doesn't have a strategic Mercedes reserve. Oil is needed 
to power the war machine.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On December 18, 2015 12:47:41 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
The thing is its not "ours" it belongs to whoever owns the oil rights to the 
property until its pulled up out of the ground, then it belongs to the oil 
company. They should be able to do whatever they want with it. You don't want 
anybody telling you who you can and cannot sell parts to right?
-Curt

 

  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
   
I don't think we should be exporting oil, it is a limited resource that will 
one day run out and we need to keep it for ourselves.

Sent from my iPhone


 On Dec 18, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
wrote:
 
 Nansky Peloski, that noted marxist, just made a sensible statement.
 
 She said it makes more sense to export finished products than to export crude 
oil.
 
 The sky must be falling when that bimbo says something intelligent.
 
 I agree with Nansky Peloski
 
 So the end of the world is near
 
 
 Andrew, Please note:  I did not change my view or belief.  Nansky Peloski did.
 

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Well, there's a good reason why the federal government keeps a strategic 
petroleum reserve but doesn't have a strategic Mercedes reserve.  Oil is needed 
to power the war machine.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On December 18, 2015 12:47:41 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>The thing is its not "ours" it belongs to whoever owns the oil rights
>to the property until its pulled up out of the ground, then it belongs
>to the oil company. They should be able to do whatever they want with
>it. You don't want anybody telling you who you can and cannot sell
>parts to right?
>-Curt
>
> 
>
>  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
>   
>I don't think we should be exporting oil, it is a limited resource that
>will one day run out and we need to keep it for ourselves.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Nansky Peloski, that noted marxist, just made a sensible statement.
>> 
>> She said it makes more sense to export finished products than to
>export crude oil.
>> 
>> The sky must be falling when that bimbo says something intelligent.
>> 
>> I agree with Nansky Peloski
>> 
>> So the end of the world is near
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew, Please note:  I did not change my view or belief.  Nansky
>Peloski did.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The thing is its not "ours" it belongs to whoever owns the oil rights to the 
property until its pulled up out of the ground, then it belongs to the oil 
company. They should be able to do whatever they want with it. You don't want 
anybody telling you who you can and cannot sell parts to right?
-Curt

 

  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
   
I don't think we should be exporting oil, it is a limited resource that will 
one day run out and we need to keep it for ourselves.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nansky Peloski, that noted marxist, just made a sensible statement.
> 
> She said it makes more sense to export finished products than to export crude 
> oil.
> 
> The sky must be falling when that bimbo says something intelligent.
> 
> I agree with Nansky Peloski
> 
> So the end of the world is near
> 
> 
> Andrew, Please note:  I did not change my view or belief.  Nansky Peloski did.
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I don't think we should be exporting oil, it is a limited resource that will 
one day run out and we need to keep it for ourselves.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nansky Peloski, that noted marxist, just made a sensible statement.
> 
> She said it makes more sense to export finished products than to export crude 
> oil.
> 
> The sky must be falling when that bimbo says something intelligent.
> 
> I agree with Nansky Peloski
> 
> So the end of the world is near
> 
> 
> Andrew, Please note:  I did not change my view or belief.  Nansky Peloski did.
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Maybe she's been lurking and has a secret crush on you.
-Curt

 

  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:04 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
   
Nansky Peloski, that noted marxist, just made a sensible statement.

She said it makes more sense to export finished products than to 
export crude oil.

The sky must be falling when that bimbo says something intelligent.

I agree with Nansky Peloski

So the end of the world is near


Andrew, Please note:  I did not change my view or belief.  Nansky Peloski did.

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

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I have thought of running for something too, but then realized I would 
have to deal with people like me.


--R



On 7/1/15 5:50 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks, but I don't want it - 'couldn't put up with all the BS.

'Reminds me:  'Bout 25 years ago, I was chairman of local Historic 
District Commission; 'thought I might run for city council or county 
commission. 'Had too many "nuts" calling 'bout their pet projects 
and/or complaints; 'quickly decided I didn't need to put up with that BS.


Wilton 



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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Guys - let's be civil, please. No problem with disagreeing, but no need for 
name calling.

Dan/Mom

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> On Jul 1, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> He's a lot smarter than your two a**hole senators.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> HAHAHAHA Ed Malarkey from MA -- yer killin me A!
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/1/15 4:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> MD Senators Cardin and Mikulski are awesome.  So are Sen. Markey in MA and
>>> Whitehouse in RI.  The list goes on.  Don't be such a cynic.

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

As the saying goes, it's a messy job but someone has to do it...

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 5:50 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Thanks, but I don't want it - 'couldn't put up with all the BS.
>
> 'Reminds me:  'Bout 25 years ago, I was chairman of local Historic
> District Commission; 'thought I might run for city council or county
> commission. 'Had too many "nuts" calling 'bout their pet projects and/or
> complaints; 'quickly decided I didn't need to put up with that BS.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: "Curt Raymond" 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 4:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling
>
>
>  Problem is our whole system of election is backwards, anybody smart
>> enough to run the country is smart enough not to try to get elected. Lets
>> face it, being president is a crap job. Instead we need to focus on the
>> "service" part of government service. We pick some poor bastard that would
>> be good at the job and force him or her into it. I nominate Wilton.
>> Alternately we randomly pick some idiot every year. Sure some years you
>> get an absolute moron but based on the turdburgers we've been getting for
>> the last twenty or thirty (or fifty) years how could it be any worse?
>> -Curt
>>  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 2:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling
>>
>> There is a difference: D=marxist totalitarian
>> R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
>> constitutional conservatives.
>>
>> Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat
>> the history that the "in crowd" will never learn.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.
>>>
>>> Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The
>>> only people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.
>>>
>>> The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?
>>>
>>> RB
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I love the way you paraphrase...

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Won't argue much with that, though Tim Scott seems half smart (but we
> weren't talking about smart -- way to deflect the discussion).  A friend of
> mine, who is a very reasonable person, knows him pretty well (and his
> daughter works for Tim), and has for a long time, and thinks quite highly
> of him though he has done some things I find a bit questionable.  Another
> friend of mine, a flaming liberal from Lawn Guyland, accuses Scott of being
> a "disgrace to his race" because he has the temerity to be a R and espouse
> such principles. She believes he should uniformly vote for free sh*t and if
> he doesn't he is a "disgrace to his race."
>
> Miss Lindsey defies words.
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 7/1/15 4:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> He's a lot smarter than your two a**hole senators.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>  HAHAHAHA Ed Malarkey from MA -- yer killin me A!
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/1/15 4:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>>  MD Senators Cardin and Mikulski are awesome.  So are Sen. Markey in MA
>>>> and
>>>> Whitehouse in RI.  The list goes on.  Don't be such a cynic.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Really? Who?
>>>>
>>>>> They're all idiots Andrew, don't be blinded by ideology. They work hard
>>>>> for their little pet projects and to keep from ever having to do any
>>>>> real
>>>>> actual work, then retire to write a book or go on a speaking tour. Not
>>>>> one
>>>>> of them is up to the standard of digging ditches. Either party, any
>>>>> state...
>>>>> -Curt
>>>>> From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>>>To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>>>> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:05 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling
>>>>>
>>>>> Total BS. I know of many dedicated and honest US senators on both sides
>>>>> of
>>>>> the aisle.  The system is broke..
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian
>>>>>
>>>>>>  R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
>>>>>> constitutional conservatives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> history that the "in crowd" will never learn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Gerry wrote:
> ...Since Bush has built the largest war chest...

War chest? i.e. $$?  Where is $$ spent?  Yeah, kill media and we might
have some meaningful chatter.  Is there anything bigger than media
that gets war chest proceeds?  We haven't even got gumption to
chastise media by boycott.  We love bling.
mao

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Andrew wrote:
> Don't be such a cynic.

Cynic? - in Illinois? - really?
Is there any ray of hope against cynicism to be known in IL?
mao

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[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curt wrote:
> ...Lets face it, being president is a crap job. Instead we need to focus on 
> the "service" part of government service...
>

The beauty of the failure is that "service" is no longer something we
want.  Understand sipseystreet - the reality of corruption in this
system is that we don't want any type of "service."  Not even
education.

Besides, look at what you said.  One person here or there in the gov't
"service" sectors ain't a hill'o beans toward any solution.  The
"service" people have rights too!  You can't discriminate, not even
for the sake of nation saving.  Nobody, realize, nobody wants this to
suceed, nobody.  Nobody will give anything - we merely want to take -
"service."  All for me, none for you - i.e. income disparity,
education, "services" , military escapades, global climate change.
mao

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[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

RB wrote:
> The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?

Ain't no empire to fall - that is the beauty of the ... whatever we
might want to call this.
An empire fail needs some alternate with muster and there ain't no muster.
mao

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[WILTON via Mercedes]

Thanks, but I don't want it - 'couldn't put up with all the BS.

'Reminds me:  'Bout 25 years ago, I was chairman of local Historic District 
Commission; 'thought I might run for city council or county commission. 
'Had too many "nuts" calling 'bout their pet projects and/or complaints; 
'quickly decided I didn't need to put up with that BS.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Curt Raymond" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling


Problem is our whole system of election is backwards, anybody smart enough 
to run the country is smart enough not to try to get elected. Lets face 
it, being president is a crap job. Instead we need to focus on the 
"service" part of government service. We pick some poor bastard that would 
be good at the job and force him or her into it. I nominate Wilton.
Alternately we randomly pick some idiot every year. Sure some years you 
get an absolute moron but based on the turdburgers we've been getting for 
the last twenty or thirty (or fifty) years how could it be any worse?

-Curt
 From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

There is a difference: D=marxist totalitarian
R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
constitutional conservatives.

Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat
the history that the "in crowd" will never learn.





THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.

Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The
only people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.

The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?

RB




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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Won't argue much with that, though Tim Scott seems half smart (but we 
weren't talking about smart -- way to deflect the discussion).  A friend 
of mine, who is a very reasonable person, knows him pretty well (and his 
daughter works for Tim), and has for a long time, and thinks quite 
highly of him though he has done some things I find a bit questionable.  
Another friend of mine, a flaming liberal from Lawn Guyland, accuses 
Scott of being a "disgrace to his race" because he has the temerity to 
be a R and espouse such principles. She believes he should uniformly 
vote for free sh*t and if he doesn't he is a "disgrace to his race."


Miss Lindsey defies words.

--R



On 7/1/15 4:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

He's a lot smarter than your two a**hole senators.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


HAHAHAHA Ed Malarkey from MA -- yer killin me A!

--R



On 7/1/15 4:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:


MD Senators Cardin and Mikulski are awesome.  So are Sen. Markey in MA and
Whitehouse in RI.  The list goes on.  Don't be such a cynic.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

  Really? Who?

They're all idiots Andrew, don't be blinded by ideology. They work hard
for their little pet projects and to keep from ever having to do any real
actual work, then retire to write a book or go on a speaking tour. Not
one
of them is up to the standard of digging ditches. Either party, any
state...
-Curt
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
   To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
   Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:05 PM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

Total BS. I know of many dedicated and honest US senators on both sides
of
the aisle.  The system is broke..

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

  There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian

 R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
constitutional conservatives.

Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat
the
history that the "in crowd" will never learn.


   THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.


Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The only
people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.

The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?

RB



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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

I'm not planning on voting for Hillary, Roger. I'm waiting to see how the 
primaries turn out. Since the Supremes have let nearly anyone or any 
corporation worldwide contribute to U.S. political campaigns, it's hard to even 
guess what the effect will be. 
Since Bush has built the largest war chest, he's probably going to be the 
Republican candidate, but that's no certainty under the present circumstances. 
I'm not planning on voting for Trump or Christie either. That was TIC BS. [:o)
Gerry

rogerhga---wrote:
> Gerry, 
>  I think you have it backwards.  Bill was/is actually Hillary's sock 
> puppet.  How many did she have killed over White Water, last count was around 
> 50.  And Foster killing himself and Hillary ending up with his personal 
> files.  Pleease!!!   Hillary is a dangerous, maniacal, power hungry 
> person.  Remember, Bill was a mess as governor, Hillary slapped him around, 
> and he was back as governordoesn't speak well for the intellect of the 
> Ark. folks, but that's another story for another day. 
>  Anyway, Bernie is just a typical Democrat distraction to make voters 
> think that there is actually independent thought and competition in the 
> Democratic Party.  Remember, Democrats share the "Borg" brain so they can't 
> really act independent...I remember when there were actual, real moderate and 
> conservative Democrats.  But then, I also remember when there were actual, 
> real moderate and conservative Republicans...now just RINOS. 
>   You may disagree and that's good.  Keeps us from acting like the "Borg" 
> as well. 
>   
> >Hillary is just Bills sock puppet. A Hillary presidency will be another 
> >classic Bill Clinton presidency. (Bill misses his Monicas.) 
> Gerry 
> > 

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Name three things that each of these unknowns have done to save 
money, assure our rights under the Constitution,  Enforce the 
sovereignty, or curtail the continuing intrusion of the out of 
control goobermnt into the lives if citizens WHO PAY THE BILLS!





MD Senators Cardin and Mikulski are awesome.  So are Sen. Markey in MA and
Whitehouse in RI.  The list goes on.  Don't be such a cynic.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


 Really? Who?
 They're all idiots Andrew, don't be blinded by ideology. They work hard
 for their little pet projects and to keep from ever having to do any real
 actual work, then retire to write a book or go on a speaking tour. Not one
 of them is up to the standard of digging ditches. Either party, any state...
 -Curt

 >


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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

He's a lot smarter than your two a**hole senators.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> HAHAHAHA Ed Malarkey from MA -- yer killin me A!
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 7/1/15 4:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> MD Senators Cardin and Mikulski are awesome.  So are Sen. Markey in MA and
>> Whitehouse in RI.  The list goes on.  Don't be such a cynic.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Really? Who?
>>> They're all idiots Andrew, don't be blinded by ideology. They work hard
>>> for their little pet projects and to keep from ever having to do any real
>>> actual work, then retire to write a book or go on a speaking tour. Not
>>> one
>>> of them is up to the standard of digging ditches. Either party, any
>>> state...
>>> -Curt
>>>        From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>   To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
>>>   Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:05 PM
>>>   Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling
>>>
>>> Total BS. I know of many dedicated and honest US senators on both sides
>>> of
>>> the aisle.  The system is broke..
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian
>>>> R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
>>>> constitutional conservatives.
>>>>
>>>> Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat
>>>> the
>>>> history that the "in crowd" will never learn.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The only
>>>>> people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.
>>>>>
>>>>> The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?
>>>>>
>>>>> RB
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

HAHAHAHA Ed Malarkey from MA -- yer killin me A!

--R



On 7/1/15 4:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

MD Senators Cardin and Mikulski are awesome.  So are Sen. Markey in MA and
Whitehouse in RI.  The list goes on.  Don't be such a cynic.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Really? Who?
They're all idiots Andrew, don't be blinded by ideology. They work hard
for their little pet projects and to keep from ever having to do any real
actual work, then retire to write a book or go on a speaking tour. Not one
of them is up to the standard of digging ditches. Either party, any state...
-Curt
   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

Total BS. I know of many dedicated and honest US senators on both sides of
the aisle.  The system is broke..

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian
R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
constitutional conservatives.

Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat the
history that the "in crowd" will never learn.


  THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.

Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The only
people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.

The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?

RB




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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

MD Senators Cardin and Mikulski are awesome.  So are Sen. Markey in MA and
Whitehouse in RI.  The list goes on.  Don't be such a cynic.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Really? Who?
> They're all idiots Andrew, don't be blinded by ideology. They work hard
> for their little pet projects and to keep from ever having to do any real
> actual work, then retire to write a book or go on a speaking tour. Not one
> of them is up to the standard of digging ditches. Either party, any state...
> -Curt
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:05 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling
>
> Total BS. I know of many dedicated and honest US senators on both sides of
> the aisle.  The system is broke..
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian
> >R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
> > constitutional conservatives.
> >
> > Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat the
> > history that the "in crowd" will never learn.
> >
> >
> >  THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.
> >>
> >> Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The only
> >> people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.
> >>
> >> The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?
> >>
> >> RB
> >>
> >>
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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Really? Who?
They're all idiots Andrew, don't be blinded by ideology. They work hard for 
their little pet projects and to keep from ever having to do any real actual 
work, then retire to write a book or go on a speaking tour. Not one of them is 
up to the standard of digging ditches. Either party, any state...
-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel  
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling
   
Total BS. I know of many dedicated and honest US senators on both sides of
the aisle.  The system is broke..

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian
>                R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
> constitutional conservatives.
>
> Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat the
> history that the "in crowd" will never learn.
>
>
>  THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.
>>
>> Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The only
>> people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.
>>
>> The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?
>>
>> RB
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Problem is our whole system of election is backwards, anybody smart enough to 
run the country is smart enough not to try to get elected. Lets face it, being 
president is a crap job. Instead we need to focus on the "service" part of 
government service. We pick some poor bastard that would be good at the job and 
force him or her into it. I nominate Wilton.
Alternately we randomly pick some idiot every year. Sure some years you get an 
absolute moron but based on the turdburgers we've been getting for the last 
twenty or thirty (or fifty) years how could it be any worse?
-Curt
  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 2:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling
   
There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian
        R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of 
constitutional conservatives.

Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat 
the history that the "in crowd" will never learn.




>THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.
>
>Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The 
>only people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.
>
>The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?
>
>RB
>
>

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Total BS. I know of many dedicated and honest US senators on both sides of
the aisle.  The system is broke..

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian
> R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
> constitutional conservatives.
>
> Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat the
> history that the "in crowd" will never learn.
>
>
>  THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.
>>
>> Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The only
>> people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.
>>
>> The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?
>>
>> RB
>>
>>
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[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian
		R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of 
constitutional conservatives.


Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat 
the history that the "in crowd" will never learn.




THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.

Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The 
only people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.


The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?

RB




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[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Randy writes:

>THAT is a sad commentary, >indeed.

>Maybe it is because it is a >thankless job, being a politician? >The only 
>people interested anymore are >odd balls and crooks.

>The fall of the empire is nearer >than we would like to believe?

"The culture has degraded such that seeking and/or holding office, especially 
national-level office, is, in and of itself, proof that a given person is 
psychologically and morally unfit to hold public office."
‎
Ann Barnhardt 

Rick 
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[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.

Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The only 
people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.


The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?

RB




On 30/06/2015 8:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Its like choosing between a turd burger and a crap sandwich.
-Curt
   From: Mountain Man via Mercedes 
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Cc: Mountain Man 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:33 PM
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Is there a difference?

Demican or Republicrat - ain't a dime's difference.
My Dr. told me so.
mao







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[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Gerry, 
 I think you have it backwards.  Bill was/is actually Hillary's sock 
puppet.  How many did she have killed over White Water, last count was around 
50.  And Foster killing himself and Hillary ending up with his personal files.  
Pleease!!!   Hillary is a dangerous, maniacal, power hungry person.  
Remember, Bill was a mess as governor, Hillary slapped him around, and he was 
back as governordoesn't speak well for the intellect of the Ark. folks, but 
that's another story for another day. 
 Anyway, Bernie is just a typical Democrat distraction to make voters think 
that there is actually independent thought and competition in the Democratic 
Party.  Remember, Democrats share the "Borg" brain so they can't really act 
independent...I remember when there were actual, real moderate and conservative 
Democrats.  But then, I also remember when there were actual, real moderate and 
conservative Republicans...now just RINOS. 
  You may disagree and that's good.  Keeps us from acting like the "Borg" 
as well. 
  
>Hillary is just Bills sock puppet. A Hillary presidency will be another 
>classic Bill Clinton presidency. (Bill misses his Monicas.) 
Gerry 
> 
  
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Trump will wear his hair any way he sees fit when he becomes 
president. Trumps hair style is just another example of his being 
his own man. Donalds hair and Christies fat will break the nation of 
its subservience to political correctness.

The cool dude of the future will be a fat guy with a Trump coiffure.
Gerry




Hear Hear!Gerry is the "voice of experience"  Great observation, 
and "off the wall!"


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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

 > On June 30, 2015 at 11:15 AM G Mann via Mercedes 

 wrote:


 Scaffolding support is being built for both of them I wager, in preparation
 for their treason trial and conviction. If not being built, the plans and
 permits have been applied for.

 The Citizens are reaching their tolerance critical mass rather quickly, I
 believe.


http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-reset-button.html


Second comment:
"Chris said...
It could very well come to an outright civil war, the past practices 
of the LGBT mafia has been to go after "soft" targets, Christians, 
you will NEVER see them trying that crap with muslims, why? Muslims 
shoot back. Unfortunately Christians are also going to have to shoot 
back, we now know the courts are useless, there will be no redress of 
our grievances from ANY branch of the US government, we are on our 
own. "


The "Kul chural Revolution" they are imposing on us will be nothing 
short of the massmurdering of mao's "cultura lrevolution" with one 
difference.  We will be shoo ting back.

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Hillary is just Bills sock puppet. A Hillary presidency will be another classic 
Bill Clinton presidency. (Bill misses his Monicas.)
Gerry

Max Dillon wrote:
> Stop, please STOP!  Hillary! simply MUST be the Democrat nominee, she's our 
> only hope!  Stop rocking the boat, man!

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Bernie, Hands down favorite!  At least he has entertainment value, 
and we don't have to listen to the witch's cackle.



(cackle voice:  "what difference does it make!")


Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?


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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I didn't  know my "eyes were burning."   Why didn't the goobermnt warn me?


Andrew sez: So-called "natural pollution" wouldn't be burning your 
eyes if not for dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated 
by human activity (burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult 
for you to understand?



On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was 
hazy.  By 5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one 
suburban!!


The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  Oh 
The Humanity!



no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!


...


...


...

Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.

But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total 
accumulation of all "manmade" pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars etc 
create massive pollution, and generally within hours, the earf's 
regenerative powers  (trees) have mitigated the pollution.


For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't 
get sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so the 
sun is still obscured.


Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor. 
1950 style!



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[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Trump will wear his hair any way he sees fit when he becomes president. Trumps 
hair style is just another example of his being his own man. Donalds hair and 
Christies fat will break the nation of its subservience to political 
correctness.
The cool dude of the future will be a fat guy with a Trump coiffure.
Gerry

Rich Thomas wrote:

> He is perfectly grounded in hair reality.  He announced that when 
> elected president he will change his hairstyle to something more 
> manageable and that takes less time to deal with.  He's gonna be too 
> busy for an elaborate combover!
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/30/15 2:53 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > Correction, Trump tells it as he sees it through his warped lens. Dude is 
> > crazy, how anybody with hair that bad could dare to criticize someone else 
> > I'll never understand.
> > His latests slam of latinos is pretty telling...
> > -Curt
> 
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Its like choosing between a turd burger and a crap sandwich.
-Curt
  From: Mountain Man via Mercedes 
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Cc: Mountain Man  
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling
   
Is there a difference?
Demican or Republicrat - ain't a dime's difference.
My Dr. told me so.
mao



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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Is there a difference?
Demican or Republicrat - ain't a dime's difference.
My Dr. told me so.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Bernie.  His politics may suck but he is a stand-up guy with integrity.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:25 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling
> 
> Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?
> 


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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Stop, please STOP!  Hillary! simply MUST be the Democrat nominee, she's our 
only hope!  Stop rocking the boat, man!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

This is pretty funny

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2015/06/30/millennials-in-shock-over-hillarys-cribs-n2019141

--R

On 6/30/15 4:04 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

I don't know how anyone could support HRC.  Her record consists of
incompetence, coverups, and conspiracy to cover up.  Bernie is a socialist,
and I don't want a socialist president.  But at least he would provide a
clear choice to the voters: WYSIWYG, not a political shape-shifter like HRC.

Greg



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[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I don't know how anyone could support HRC.  Her record consists of
incompetence, coverups, and conspiracy to cover up.  Bernie is a socialist,
and I don't want a socialist president.  But at least he would provide a
clear choice to the voters: WYSIWYG, not a political shape-shifter like HRC.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:25 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You are emitting "displaced emissions" -- time-displaced emissions. 
> The solar-powered dinosaurs lived and died millions of years ago when 
> the whole Earth was globally warm, before racist bigot trans/homophobe 
> misogynistic gun-totin bible-thumping battle flag-wavin non-rainbow 
> rednecks, and turned into all which turns into dino-dizzel (unless you 
> use newer solar-powered soybean bio-dizzel) so really you are using 
> solar power that is millions of years old.  The dino-dizzel is like a 
> giant solar-powered chemical battery that just happens to be a liquid 
> you can pump into a tank and combust in your German dizzel engine.
>
> You can FEEL better now about it, and not have to turn in your 
> Bernie Sanders Fan Club Membership Card.
>
> --R (off to the tattoo parlor to see if I can get some orange yellow 
> green blue indigo and violet stripes tattooed on my neck)
>
>
>
>
> On 6/30/15 9:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> OTOH, I do drive two diesels so am partly to blame.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < 
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Apparently that is due to some wildfires in Canada.  No Suburban 
>> smog, no
>>> CFPP emissions, just solar-powered vegetation burning.
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/30/15 9:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>>  Oh my lord
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>   On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>>>
>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So-called "natural pollution" wouldn't be burning your eyes if not 
>>>>> for dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated by human 
>>>>> activity (burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult for you 
>>>>> to understand?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < 
>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was 
>>>>> hazy.
>>>>>
>>>>>> By
>>>>>> 5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one suburban!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  
>>>>>> Oh The Humanity!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total 
>>>>>> accumulation of all "manmade" pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars 
>>>>>> etc create massive pollution, and generally within hours, the 
>>>>>> earf's regenerative powers
>>>>>> (trees) have mitigated the pollution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't 
>>>>>> get sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so 
>>>>>> the sun is still obscured.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor.
>>>>>> 1950
>>>>>> style!
>>>>>>
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[WILTON via Mercedes]

A clown - a "really rich" (just ask 'im - no, no, just wait a second, he'll 
tell ya) clown.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 

To: 
Cc: "Rich Thomas" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling


He is perfectly grounded in hair reality.  He announced that when elected 
president he will change his hairstyle to something more manageable and 
that takes less time to deal with.  He's gonna be too busy for an 
elaborate combover!


--R



On 6/30/15 2:53 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
Correction, Trump tells it as he sees it through his warped lens. Dude is 
crazy, how anybody with hair that bad could dare to criticize someone 
else I'll never understand.

His latests slam of latinos is pretty telling...
-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

He is perfectly grounded in hair reality.  He announced that when 
elected president he will change his hairstyle to something more 
manageable and that takes less time to deal with.  He's gonna be too 
busy for an elaborate combover!


--R



On 6/30/15 2:53 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Correction, Trump tells it as he sees it through his warped lens. Dude is 
crazy, how anybody with hair that bad could dare to criticize someone else I'll 
never understand.
His latests slam of latinos is pretty telling...
-Curt



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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Correction, Trump tells it as he sees it through his warped lens. Dude is 
crazy, how anybody with hair that bad could dare to criticize someone else I'll 
never understand.
His latests slam of latinos is pretty telling...
-Curt
  From: archer75--- via Mercedes 
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Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling
   

Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?

Trump. American needs a successful businessman/wheeler-dealer in the highest 
office to straighten out the nation. We've had enough mealy-mouthed politicians 
for a while. Trump always tells it like it is.
Gerry




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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On June 30, 2015 at 11:15 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Scaffolding support is being built for both of them I wager, in preparation
> for their treason trial and conviction. If not being built, the plans and
> permits have been applied for.
> 
> The Citizens are reaching their tolerance critical mass rather quickly, I
> believe.

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-reset-button.html

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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I think I'll just wait for things to play out.  Lots of campaigning left,
lots of inquiries, lots of discovery, debates, etc. await.  Must get
popcorn.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have a serious question here, Andy is the just the guy to help me out.
>
> Hillary! very clearly has some huge baggage she is dragging around, most
> recently this whole business with the personal unsecured email server,
> running national-sensitive stuff through it, lying about it, not turning
> over all the stuff that has been subpoenaed, using employees of her
> foundation to run intel operations, stonewalling Congress, taking huge
> amounts of foreign money into the foundation while SoS and dealing with
> issues related to those donations, ... the list goes on.
>
> Are Hillary! supporters really blind to all of this, or does it not
> matter, or do they think that none of this is real or has any relevance to
> the assumption that it is Her Turn?
>
> I really want to know this.  I don't want partisan bashing of her or any
> other candidate, I truly want to know if the HRC supporters have
> explanations for all this that makes it irrelevant to her candidacy.  I
> have friends/acquaintances who really see nothing here to be concerned
> about, but can't articulate any reasons.  It's like they just ignore it, or
> don't see it, or something, when clearly it is out there and fairly
> important stuff.
>
> --R
>
>
>
>
> On 6/30/15 12:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> It's a tossup as to who is the greater buffoon between him and Christie,
>> who officially announced today.  Get out the popcorn.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:00 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>>
 Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?

>>> Trump. American needs a successful businessman/wheeler-dealer in the
>>> highest office to straighten out the nation. We've had enough
>>> mealy-mouthed
>>> politicians for a while. Trump always tells it like it is.
>>> Gerry
>>>
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[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I have a serious question here, Andy is the just the guy to help me out.

Hillary! very clearly has some huge baggage she is dragging around, most 
recently this whole business with the personal unsecured email server, 
running national-sensitive stuff through it, lying about it, not turning 
over all the stuff that has been subpoenaed, using employees of her 
foundation to run intel operations, stonewalling Congress, taking huge 
amounts of foreign money into the foundation while SoS and dealing with 
issues related to those donations, ... the list goes on.


Are Hillary! supporters really blind to all of this, or does it not 
matter, or do they think that none of this is real or has any relevance 
to the assumption that it is Her Turn?


I really want to know this.  I don't want partisan bashing of her or any 
other candidate, I truly want to know if the HRC supporters have 
explanations for all this that makes it irrelevant to her candidacy.  I 
have friends/acquaintances who really see nothing here to be concerned 
about, but can't articulate any reasons.  It's like they just ignore it, 
or don't see it, or something, when clearly it is out there and fairly 
important stuff.


--R



On 6/30/15 12:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

It's a tossup as to who is the greater buffoon between him and Christie,
who officially announced today.  Get out the popcorn.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:00 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?

Trump. American needs a successful businessman/wheeler-dealer in the
highest office to straighten out the nation. We've had enough mealy-mouthed
politicians for a while. Trump always tells it like it is.
Gerry


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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It's a tossup as to who is the greater buffoon between him and Christie,
who officially announced today.  Get out the popcorn.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:00 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?
>
> Trump. American needs a successful businessman/wheeler-dealer in the
> highest office to straighten out the nation. We've had enough mealy-mouthed
> politicians for a while. Trump always tells it like it is.
> Gerry
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Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?

Trump. American needs a successful businessman/wheeler-dealer in the highest 
office to straighten out the nation. We've had enough mealy-mouthed politicians 
for a while. Trump always tells it like it is.
Gerry


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[archer75--- via Mercedes]

As a loyal American who loves our government and all of its hard working 
bureaucrats, I wish they would clear up the obvious conflict between global 
warming and global cooling.

"During the 1970s the media promoted global cooling alarmism with dire threats 
of a new ice age. Extreme weather events were hyped as signs of the coming 
apocalypse and man-made pollution was blamed as the cause. Environmental 
extremists called for everything from outlawing the internal combustion engine 
to communist style population controls..."

http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/02/the-1970s-global-cooling-alarmism.html

The only solution I can think of is to combine the two; (they would cancel out 
each other);  and put the world back into its present boring state.


Gerry
...

Rich Thomas wrote:
> You are emitting "displaced emissions" -- time-displaced emissions. The 
> solar-powered dinosaurs lived and died millions of years ago when the 
> whole Earth was globally warm, before racist bigot trans/homophobe 
> misogynistic gun-totin bible-thumping battle flag-wavin non-rainbow 
> rednecks, and turned into all which turns into dino-dizzel (unless you 
> use newer solar-powered soybean bio-dizzel) so really you are using 
> solar power that is millions of years old.  The dino-dizzel is like a 
> giant solar-powered chemical battery that just happens to be a liquid 
> you can pump into a tank and combust in your German dizzel engine.
> 
> You can FEEL better now about it, and not have to turn in your 
> Bernie Sanders Fan Club Membership Card.
> 
> --R (off to the tattoo parlor to see if I can get some orange yellow 
> green blue indigo and violet stripes tattooed on my neck)
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/30/15 9:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > OTOH, I do drive two diesels so am partly to blame.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Apparently that is due to some wildfires in Canada.  No Suburban smog, no
> >> CFPP emissions, just solar-powered vegetation burning.
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/30/15 9:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> >>> Oh my lord
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>   On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  So-called "natural pollution" wouldn't be burning your eyes if not for
>  dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated by human activity
>  (burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult for you to understand?
> 
>  On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>    The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was hazy.
> > By
> > 5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one suburban!!
> >
> > The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  Oh The
> > Humanity!
> >
> >
> > no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!
> >
> >
> > ...
> >
> >
> > ...
> >
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.
> >
> > But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total
> > accumulation
> > of all "manmade" pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars etc create massive
> > pollution, and generally within hours, the earf's regenerative powers
> > (trees) have mitigated the pollution.
> >
> > For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't get
> > sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so the sun is
> > still obscured.
> >
> > Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor. 1950
> > style!
> >
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Scaffolding support is being built for both of them I wager, in preparation
for their treason trial and conviction. If not being built, the plans and
permits have been applied for.

The Citizens are reaching their tolerance critical mass rather quickly, I
believe.
The great society experiment with socialism has turned into a bad acid trip
and it seems to me, there is about to be a whole lot of harsh brought onto
a whole pile of "mellows".

Just observations, from my view at the back of the dog team..



On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > You are emitting "displaced emissions" -- time-displaced emissions. The
> > solar-powered dinosaurs lived and died millions of years ago when the
> whole
> > Earth was globally warm, before racist bigot trans/homophobe misogynistic
> > gun-totin bible-thumping battle flag-wavin non-rainbow rednecks, and
> turned
> > into all which turns into dino-dizzel (unless you use newer solar-powered
> > soybean bio-dizzel) so really you are using solar power that is millions
> of
> > years old.  The dino-dizzel is like a giant solar-powered chemical
> battery
> > that just happens to be a liquid you can pump into a tank and combust in
> > your German dizzel engine.
> >
> > You can FEEL better now about it, and not have to turn in your
> > Bernie Sanders Fan Club Membership Card.
> >
> > --R (off to the tattoo parlor to see if I can get some orange yellow
> green
> > blue indigo and violet stripes tattooed on my neck)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/30/15 9:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> OTOH, I do drive two diesels so am partly to blame.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Apparently that is due to some wildfires in Canada.  No Suburban smog,
> no
> >>> CFPP emissions, just solar-powered vegetation burning.
> >>>
> >>> --R
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 6/30/15 9:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  Oh my lord
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
>    On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > So-called "natural pollution" wouldn't be burning your eyes if not
> for
> > dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated by human activity
> > (burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult for you to
> > understand?
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >   The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was
> > hazy.
> >
> >> By
> >> 5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one suburban!!
> >>
> >> The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  Oh
> >> The
> >> Humanity!
> >>
> >>
> >> no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!
> >>
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >> Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.
> >>
> >> But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total
> >> accumulation
> >> of all "manmade" pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars etc create
> massive
> >> pollution, and generally within hours, the earf's regenerative
> powers
> >> (trees) have mitigated the pollution.
> >>
> >> For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't
> get
> >> sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so the sun
> is
> >> still obscured.
> >>
> >> Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor.
> >> 1950
> >> style!
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Bernie is the unapologetic socialist that Hillary! wants to be, and 
doesn't have all the baggage of lies and criminal activity, so I'd say 
go with Bernie since the Cherokee Princess has not jumped in yet.  He is 
also a lot more entertaining than Hilz and doesn't have that 
paint-stripping vocal manner.


But, what difference, at this point, does it make?

--R



On 6/30/15 10:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


You are emitting "displaced emissions" -- time-displaced
emissions. The solar-powered dinosaurs lived and died millions of
years ago when the whole Earth was globally warm, before racist
bigot trans/homophobe misogynistic gun-totin bible-thumping battle
flag-wavin non-rainbow rednecks, and turned into all which turns
into dino-dizzel (unless you use newer solar-powered soybean
bio-dizzel) so really you are using solar power that is millions
of years old.  The dino-dizzel is like a giant solar-powered
chemical battery that just happens to be a liquid you can pump
into a tank and combust in your German dizzel engine.

You can FEEL better now about it, and not have to turn in
your Bernie Sanders Fan Club Membership Card.

--R (off to the tattoo parlor to see if I can get some orange
yellow green blue indigo and violet stripes tattooed on my neck)




On 6/30/15 9:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

OTOH, I do drive two diesels so am partly to blame.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

Apparently that is due to some wildfires in Canada. No
Suburban smog, no
CFPP emissions, just solar-powered vegetation burning.

--R




On 6/30/15 9:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Oh my lord

Sent from my iPhone

  On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via
Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com
> wrote:

So-called "natural pollution" wouldn't be burning
your eyes if not for
dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated
by human activity
(burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult
for you to understand?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via
Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com
> wrote:

  The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning. 
by 10 am it was hazy.


By
5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this
from one suburban!!

The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!
Oh The pollution!  Oh The
Humanity!


no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!


...


...


...

Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in
Canyada.

But the point is that natural pollution far
exceeds the total
accumulation
of all "manmade" pollution.  Volcanoes, forest
fars etc create massive
pollution, and generally within hours, the
earf's regenerative powers
(trees) have mitigated the pollution.

For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being
obscured so I didn't get
sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the
same today so the sun is
still obscured.

Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60
miles on my tractor. 1950
style!

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Whatever you want, as long as it helps disabuse the notion that the presidency
is a title to be passed down within royal families. 
(hint: don't vote Hillary Clinton, Anybody Kennedy, or John Bush)

> On June 30, 2015 at 10:25 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?
> 

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Then you would be like Lt Wacko

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?
> 
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> You are emitting "displaced emissions" -- time-displaced emissions. The
>> solar-powered dinosaurs lived and died millions of years ago when the whole
>> Earth was globally warm, before racist bigot trans/homophobe misogynistic
>> gun-totin bible-thumping battle flag-wavin non-rainbow rednecks, and turned
>> into all which turns into dino-dizzel (unless you use newer solar-powered
>> soybean bio-dizzel) so really you are using solar power that is millions of
>> years old.  The dino-dizzel is like a giant solar-powered chemical battery
>> that just happens to be a liquid you can pump into a tank and combust in
>> your German dizzel engine.
>> 
>> You can FEEL better now about it, and not have to turn in your
>> Bernie Sanders Fan Club Membership Card.
>> 
>> --R (off to the tattoo parlor to see if I can get some orange yellow green
>> blue indigo and violet stripes tattooed on my neck)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/30/15 9:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> OTOH, I do drive two diesels so am partly to blame.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apparently that is due to some wildfires in Canada.  No Suburban smog, no
 CFPP emissions, just solar-powered vegetation burning.
 
 --R
 
 
 
 
 On 6/30/15 9:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 
 Oh my lord
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>  On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> 
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So-called "natural pollution" wouldn't be burning your eyes if not for
>> dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated by human activity
>> (burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult for you to
>> understand?
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was
>> hazy.
>> 
>>> By
>>> 5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one suburban!!
>>> 
>>> The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  Oh
>>> The
>>> Humanity!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.
>>> 
>>> But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total
>>> accumulation
>>> of all "manmade" pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars etc create massive
>>> pollution, and generally within hours, the earf's regenerative powers
>>> (trees) have mitigated the pollution.
>>> 
>>> For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't get
>>> sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so the sun is
>>> still obscured.
>>> 
>>> Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor.
>>> 1950
>>> style!
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You are emitting "displaced emissions" -- time-displaced emissions. The
> solar-powered dinosaurs lived and died millions of years ago when the whole
> Earth was globally warm, before racist bigot trans/homophobe misogynistic
> gun-totin bible-thumping battle flag-wavin non-rainbow rednecks, and turned
> into all which turns into dino-dizzel (unless you use newer solar-powered
> soybean bio-dizzel) so really you are using solar power that is millions of
> years old.  The dino-dizzel is like a giant solar-powered chemical battery
> that just happens to be a liquid you can pump into a tank and combust in
> your German dizzel engine.
>
> You can FEEL better now about it, and not have to turn in your
> Bernie Sanders Fan Club Membership Card.
>
> --R (off to the tattoo parlor to see if I can get some orange yellow green
> blue indigo and violet stripes tattooed on my neck)
>
>
>
>
> On 6/30/15 9:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> OTOH, I do drive two diesels so am partly to blame.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Apparently that is due to some wildfires in Canada.  No Suburban smog, no
>>> CFPP emissions, just solar-powered vegetation burning.
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/30/15 9:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>>  Oh my lord

 Sent from my iPhone

   On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> So-called "natural pollution" wouldn't be burning your eyes if not for
> dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated by human activity
> (burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult for you to
> understand?
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>   The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was
> hazy.
>
>> By
>> 5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one suburban!!
>>
>> The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  Oh
>> The
>> Humanity!
>>
>>
>> no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!
>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.
>>
>> But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total
>> accumulation
>> of all "manmade" pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars etc create massive
>> pollution, and generally within hours, the earf's regenerative powers
>> (trees) have mitigated the pollution.
>>
>> For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't get
>> sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so the sun is
>> still obscured.
>>
>> Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor.
>> 1950
>> style!
>>
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[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

You are emitting "displaced emissions" -- time-displaced emissions. The 
solar-powered dinosaurs lived and died millions of years ago when the 
whole Earth was globally warm, before racist bigot trans/homophobe 
misogynistic gun-totin bible-thumping battle flag-wavin non-rainbow 
rednecks, and turned into all which turns into dino-dizzel (unless you 
use newer solar-powered soybean bio-dizzel) so really you are using 
solar power that is millions of years old.  The dino-dizzel is like a 
giant solar-powered chemical battery that just happens to be a liquid 
you can pump into a tank and combust in your German dizzel engine.


You can FEEL better now about it, and not have to turn in your 
Bernie Sanders Fan Club Membership Card.


--R (off to the tattoo parlor to see if I can get some orange yellow 
green blue indigo and violet stripes tattooed on my neck)




On 6/30/15 9:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

OTOH, I do drive two diesels so am partly to blame.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Apparently that is due to some wildfires in Canada.  No Suburban smog, no
CFPP emissions, just solar-powered vegetation burning.

--R




On 6/30/15 9:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


Oh my lord

Sent from my iPhone

  On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

So-called "natural pollution" wouldn't be burning your eyes if not for
dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated by human activity
(burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

  The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was hazy.

By
5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one suburban!!

The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  Oh The
Humanity!


no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!


...


...


...

Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.

But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total
accumulation
of all "manmade" pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars etc create massive
pollution, and generally within hours, the earf's regenerative powers
(trees) have mitigated the pollution.

For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't get
sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so the sun is
still obscured.

Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor. 1950
style!

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

A single volcanic eruption releases how many times more co2 that man has since 
the beginning of time? I suppose our diesels are also causing Mars to warm up 
also?

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> On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> OTOH, I do drive two diesels so am partly to blame.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Apparently that is due to some wildfires in Canada.  No Suburban smog, no
>> CFPP emissions, just solar-powered vegetation burning.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/30/15 9:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh my lord
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 So-called "natural pollution" wouldn't be burning your eyes if not for
 dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated by human activity
 (burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult for you to understand?
 
 On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was hazy.
> By
> 5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one suburban!!
> 
> The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  Oh The
> Humanity!
> 
> 
> no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!
> 
> 
> ...
> 
> 
> ...
> 
> 
> ...
> 
> Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.
> 
> But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total
> accumulation
> of all "manmade" pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars etc create massive
> pollution, and generally within hours, the earf's regenerative powers
> (trees) have mitigated the pollution.
> 
> For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't get
> sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so the sun is
> still obscured.
> 
> Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor. 1950
> style!
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

OTOH, I do drive two diesels so am partly to blame.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Apparently that is due to some wildfires in Canada.  No Suburban smog, no
> CFPP emissions, just solar-powered vegetation burning.
>
> --R
>
>
>
>
> On 6/30/15 9:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Oh my lord
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>  On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> So-called "natural pollution" wouldn't be burning your eyes if not for
>>> dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated by human activity
>>> (burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult for you to understand?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was hazy.
 By
 5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one suburban!!

 The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  Oh The
 Humanity!


 no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!


 ...


 ...


 ...

 Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.

 But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total
 accumulation
 of all "manmade" pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars etc create massive
 pollution, and generally within hours, the earf's regenerative powers
 (trees) have mitigated the pollution.

 For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't get
 sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so the sun is
 still obscured.

 Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor. 1950
 style!

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Apparently that is due to some wildfires in Canada.  No Suburban smog, 
no CFPP emissions, just solar-powered vegetation burning.


--R



On 6/30/15 9:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Oh my lord

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:

So-called "natural pollution" wouldn't be burning your eyes if not for
dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated by human activity
(burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was hazy.  By
5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one suburban!!

The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  Oh The
Humanity!


no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!


...


...


...

Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.

But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total accumulation
of all "manmade" pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars etc create massive
pollution, and generally within hours, the earf's regenerative powers
(trees) have mitigated the pollution.

For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't get
sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so the sun is
still obscured.

Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor. 1950
style!

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Because everyone on the planet is wrong except me?

Seems to be the most popular delusion among the global warming, we are all
ruining the planet, crowd. And.. if you don't agree with me, you are
just a racist redneck bible thumping gun worshiping homophobic [said all in
one breath, in a demanding superior and arrogant tone].

You ask.. I answered...

"Can't we all just get along"  Al Gore.. circa "never"

{snark off}

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 6:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Oh my lord
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > So-called "natural pollution" wouldn't be burning your eyes if not for
> > dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated by human activity
> > (burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult for you to understand?
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was hazy.
> By
> >> 5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one suburban!!
> >>
> >> The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  Oh The
> >> Humanity!
> >>
> >>
> >> no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!
> >>
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >> Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.
> >>
> >> But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total
> accumulation
> >> of all "manmade" pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars etc create massive
> >> pollution, and generally within hours, the earf's regenerative powers
> >> (trees) have mitigated the pollution.
> >>
> >> For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't get
> >> sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so the sun is
> >> still obscured.
> >>
> >> Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor. 1950
> >> style!
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Oh my lord

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So-called "natural pollution" wouldn't be burning your eyes if not for
> dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated by human activity
> (burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult for you to understand?
> 
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was hazy.  By
>> 5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one suburban!!
>> 
>> The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  Oh The
>> Humanity!
>> 
>> 
>> no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!
>> 
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>> Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.
>> 
>> But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total accumulation
>> of all "manmade" pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars etc create massive
>> pollution, and generally within hours, the earf's regenerative powers
>> (trees) have mitigated the pollution.
>> 
>> For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't get
>> sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so the sun is
>> still obscured.
>> 
>> Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor. 1950
>> style!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

So-called "natural pollution" wouldn't be burning your eyes if not for
dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated by human activity
(burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was hazy.  By
> 5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one suburban!!
>
> The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  Oh The
> Humanity!
>
>
> no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!
>
>
> ...
>
>
> ...
>
>
> ...
>
> Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.
>
> But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total accumulation
> of all "manmade" pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars etc create massive
> pollution, and generally within hours, the earf's regenerative powers
> (trees) have mitigated the pollution.
>
> For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't get
> sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so the sun is
> still obscured.
>
> Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor. 1950
> style!
>
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