Re: What is our ultimate goal??
Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:42:38AM +0100, Marc Espie wrote: You're an idiot. [..] Think about it. Idiots don't think. If you didn't knew it - you're even bigger idiot, than I am. could_not_resist Oh, but they do! They are just not very successful. ;-) /could_not_resist The suggestion about installing packages into /whatever is fine if stated as a suggestion and/or question. I do not agree, but still I think the question is valid. However, adding It doesn't need any funding to fix this. makes it seem like a mistake that is trivial to fix, and I can understand if that pisses Marc off. BTW, think about all ports with hardcoded paths to /usr/local/dependency. One might argue that those ports are broken, but I'd guess there are quite a lot of them. /Alexander
Re: OpenBGP - Saving Restoring routes, possible?
On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 05:09:29PM -0300, Eduardo Meyer wrote: Hello, I have setup OpenBGP doing full routing with 3 other peers, so I get around 240k routes from each peer. But if by some reason I have to restar bgpd, it takes up to 5 minutes so I can all routes updated again. Is there a way to save and later restore the RIB/FIB tables? Since the only problem on commodity hardware are the mobile parts, I am also settig up a SPARE router with carp, so if one gets down, the spare will assume. But resync'ing the tables is again, reason for a higher downtime. So if I could save the tables in a machine and restore it on the other, would be great. Can I do this? This is currently impossible and a carp setup will not help you as it will take the same amount of time to take over. I have some evil plans with rfc4724 Graceful Restart Mechanism for BGP but this is still far away from being implemented because this depends on stuff that is slowly developped at the moment. Your best approach is to use two routers and split the peers between the two. If one fails you still have the other left. -- :wq Claudio
Re: OpenBGP - Balancing between peers
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:41:14AM -0300, Eduardo Meyer wrote: On Feb 18, 2008 8:47 PM, Dustin Lundquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To balance your inbound you can prepend your AS number to your advertisements to depreference them. Some larger ISPs do this on a per prefix basis, but since a sizable portion of ISPs are running Cisco gear with a 256K prefix limit it is not advisable to create additional prefixes for the purposes of traffic balancing. For outbound, its easier you can use local preference. For reference here is the Cisco BGP path selection process, OpenBGPD is similar: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/25.shtml Dustin Lundquist Right, I could define the preffered outbound traffic to a certain AS with localpref. However, I could not balance it, and did not find how I am supposed to. For example, I have a certain traffic outgoing to AS 4230, it was going via AS17379, and with localpref I could make it go via 18881. However, I need to balance it in the adequated ratio, say, make 40% of outgoing traffic to 4230 go via 1881 while 60% goes out via 17379. If you could point me to what to read, or suggest anything, thats what I need, some words from the experienced ones. You can not do load balancing between upstreams on a single prefix. This is just not possible. You can use filters and localpref to toss prefixes to a specific upstream. Correctly balancing traffic with bgp is the high art of network engineering. Most of the time you need to try a bit until you're happy. One hint don't try to build up prefect rules one week from now the world will look different and your rules may probably backfire on you. Try to make a few broad rules, e.g. match from $PEER source-as 4230 prefix 189.0.0.0/8 set localpref 300 Last but not least monitor your traffic and figure out which traffic goes over which link. -- :wq Claudio
Re: em(4) diff that needs testing.
On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 04:43:59PM -0500, Brad wrote: On Thursday 14 February 2008 00:34:54 Brad wrote: The following diffs adds support for the Intel ICH9 Ethernet chipsets. There is also a small change in here that affects the ICH8 chipsets. Please test this with any em(4) adapters but especially with ICH8 and ICH9. Please provide a dmesg. This could still use more testing from additional users. I would like to test it on my Thinkpad T41, but I don't know whether it will help you or not: OpenBSD 4.2-current (GENERIC) #2: Wed Feb 6 23:03:09 CET 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1600MHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.60 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,EST,TM2 real mem = 535785472 (510MB) avail mem = 510173184 (486MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 04/19/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd750, SMBIOS rev. 2.33 @ 0xe0010 (61 entries) bios0: vendor IBM version 1RETDKWW (3.16 ) date 04/19/2005 bios0: IBM 2373NG9 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: battery life expectancy 100% apm0: AC on, battery charge high acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd6e0/0x920 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdea0/272 (15 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371FB ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #6 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1 0xdc000/0x4000! 0xe/0x1 cpu0 at mainbus0 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1600 MHz (1484 mV): speeds: 1600, 1400, 1200, 1000, 800, 600 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82855PM Host rev 0x03 agp0 at pchb0: aperture at 0xd000, size 0x1000 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82855PM AGP rev 0x03 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon Mobility M9 Lf rev 0x02 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0x81 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 cbb0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 TI PCI4520 CardBus rev 0x01: irq 11 cbb1 at pci2 dev 0 function 1 TI PCI4520 CardBus rev 0x01: irq 11 em0 at pci2 dev 1 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82540EP) rev 0x03: irq 11, address 00:11:25:44:6c:4a ral0 at pci2 dev 2 function 0 Ralink RT2561S rev 0x00: irq 11, address 00:12:0e:61:81:1c ral0: MAC/BBP RT2561C, RF RT5225 cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 3 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 cardslot1 at cbb1 slot 1 flags 0 cardbus1 at cardslot1: bus 6 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia1 at cardslot1 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801DBM LPC rev 0x01: 24-bit timer at 3579545Hz pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801DBM IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD1200BEVE-11UYT0 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 114473MB, 234441648 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HL-DT-ST, DVD-ROM GDR8083N, 0K04 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801DB SMBus rev 0x01: irq 11 iic0 at ichiic0 spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 512MB DDR SDRAM non-parity PC2700CL2.5 auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 Intel 82801DB AC97 rev 0x01: irq 11, ICH4 AC97 ac97: codec id 0x41445374 (Analog Devices AD1981B) ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, No 3D Stereo audio0 at auich0 Intel 82801DB Modem rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 31 function 6 not configured usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at ichpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 aps0 at isa0 port 0x1600/31 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 biomask effd netmask effd ttymask mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support softraid0 at root root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b auich0: measured ac97 link rate at 46201 Hz,
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
Trolling a troll. Do you like bing trolled? Do you think the list like being trolled by you? I know what I am doing. You apparently have no clue what you are doing. There are good and nice people on this list. I am not one of them. -Original Message- From: Mayuresh Kathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What is our ultimate goal?? You claim that the thread is already polluted far beyond your feeble efforts to further such. So you agree that you are polluting the list. Then you are a troll. On Feb 19, 2008 12:38 PM, Tony Abernethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You claim you don't have enough vision or intelligence to understand me. and you offer (to the list included) no explanation. I may lack the vision and intelli9gence, but why do you insist that the rest of the list also lacks vision and intelligence? This thread is already polluted far beyond my feeble efforts to further such. Innate quality of threads? Imagine this thread if (no make that when) some thread decides to go beserk. (That is assuming you are in fact capable of imagining anything) Just think, if this were shared memory I could be popping up in ALL your correspondences. -Original Message- From: Mayuresh Kathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What is our ultimate goal?? Tony, you are really weird, stop polluting the mailing list with all of your useless garbage. If you want to have an email based altercation with me, do it off-list. About my true colours, forget it, you don't have enough vision or intelligence to understand me. On Feb 19, 2008 12:22 PM, Tony Abernethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may be an oaf, but it is with FULL REALIZATION THAT I AM SENDING THIS TO THE LIST MY PURPOSE IN DOING SO IS TO PAINT YOU WITH SOMEHTING RESEMBLING YOUR TRUE COLORS. BTW, what is the color of a dead goat? -Original Message- From: Mayuresh Kathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What is our ultimate goal?? You are an Oaf, you don't realise that you are sending all these useless emails to the list where its not needed, while *I* on the other hand have been only sending mails to you. Thats why I say, you are disconnected from reality. Go get yourself a life, and more importantly, get yourself treated from a psychiatrist. On Feb 19, 2008 12:11 PM, Tony Abernethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which half? You really ought to go back to kindergarden. -Original Message- From: Mayuresh Kathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What is our ultimate goal?? From this long nonsensical discussion, I'm sure, you are a schizophrenic. On Feb 19, 2008 12:03 PM, Tony Abernethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think therefore I am. I think you are a billy goat, therefore you are. -Original Message- From: Mayuresh Kathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What is our ultimate goal?? There you go again, disconnected from reality. Please don't even try to think. On Feb 19, 2008 11:59 AM, Tony Abernethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dead billy goat or dead nanny goat? which are you? -Original Message- From: Mayuresh Kathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What is our ultimate goal?? Are you as weird as your writing suggests. Do you get disconnected from reality when you start thinking? On Feb 19, 2008 9:53 AM, Tony Abernethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand English sentences. What is this English-based sentences you speak of? My logic may be flawed, but it seems it surpasses you abilty to elucidate the exact nature of the presumed flaw. I've got a life. What have you got. In fact beating up on dead goats might make an entertaining diversion. -Original Message- From: Mayuresh Kathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 10:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What is our ultimate
rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
Hi! I tried OpenBSD last autumn but had some trouble running rtorrent. Quoting a post I made at a forum: Every now and then it Freezes. I can't access it through ssh or physically. The login prompt is blinking normally(I can't input anything though). The network still works though since I can browse the world wide web from my desktop(openbsd is fw/router). I have run memtest86 and seagate's seatools on the disks(SATA). The only programs the box is running is rtorrent and a ventrilo server. I tried capping rtorrent to no avail. The box is running 4.2. It ran 4.1 prior to 4.2's release. At first I thought it might be some issues with the integrated NICs but I've bought two new and it still freezes, if maybe a bit less frequently. dmesg: http://pastebin.com/f55031392 Found someone else that have/had similar problems: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.bugs/10449 Is there is a fix for it yet? This is my first post at a mailing list so please don't bite my head off. =P - Daniel Andersson
Re: Using CVS to back up /etc
Richard Wilson wrote: Increasingly, I find that I have many servers, especially OpenBSD servers, where the only bit of the hard drive worth backing up is /etc. Good examples are routers or spamtrap boxes where everything is part of base. If a hard drive goes pop, all I need is to install the OS, and re-populate /etc. Currently I back up /etc on these machines using variants on rsync and rsnapshot, and it works OK. However, I've got it into my head to shift to using CVS to back up /etc on these machines. Advantages I think I see: 1) /etc is mostly flat text files. It makes more sense to back it up using a system which is text-based, rather than the belt and braces of rsync. 2) CVS is big on diffs and such. Checking to see which config changes happened to a given file, and when, gets really easy. 3) The nightly backup procedure just becomes a 'cvs ci' in cron. If nothing changed, no additional space is taken. However, if a change has been made, that change is stored efficiently, and cron will auto-magically send me an email of the change delta, because of the output from the cvs ci. 4) If someone makes big changes, they can manually do a checkin, just to be sure. 5) If everything goes hideously titsup, and there's disk corruption on the CVS server, I've still got a chance to recover data, as the CVS data storage format looks vaguely like plain text. This is more of a cvs-vs-svn (eep BDB.) If things are sufficiently bad that both a machine I back up and the CVS server are having issues, I suspect I will care about something this unlikely. Before I embark on this, I have a couple of questions: 1) Can anyone think of an idea why I'm being dumb? I hope not, but it doesn't hurt to ask. 2) How will /etc, and the things that read it, react to /etc becoming a working copy, with CVS, Entries, et al? I'm thinking of things that eg Include /etc/appname/* barfing on unexpected files left by CVS. This is exactly why I don't allow /etc, /var/cron/tabs, and so on to be working directories. Like you mentioned, it will crap out some programs. I use rcs instead of cvs; much simpler and effortless to setup and manage. What I do is create an RCS root, /root/rcsroot. The first time I need to change a system file, I copy it into /root/rcsroot, maintaining directory hierarchy of course. For example, /etc/pf.conf would go to /root/rcsroot/etc/pf.conf. I make changes to files in the rcsroot, and when I like the way they look, I copy them to the system and check them in. This preserves original file permissions and doesn't clutter the system with repos stuff. Also, I can quickly see and maintain only what I have modified. I must confess that I perform these actions manually, like the copying of the working file back to the system. This could be scripted to make it even easier. I thought about it, but it's just so easy already. For example you could modify a config file using a single command: `confedit /etc/pf.conf`. It could perform the 2 or 3 other commands needed to copy files around and do the check-in. For backup, I do `dump | ssh backupbox` from cron. Simple and easy. To any and all who have read all the way through my disjointed waffle, I thank you. I'll report back once I give it a go :-) This is a good discussion. Please do enlighten use with your setup. -pachl
Re: Why not update Groff?
On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 02:35:01PM +0100, Pieter Verberne wrote: Why is Groff not updated? OpenBSD 4.2 has Groff 1.15 from 1999. Some compatability issues? someone would need to do the work. jmc
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:33:12 +0530 Mayuresh Kathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It just led me to ponder, what is OpenBSD's ultimate goal? What, exactly, is yours? I've read thru this thread and you are remarkably obscure about your intentions, but it seems to me that OBSD somehow does not fit your marketing plan, which seems to have a lot in common with New, Improved, Diamond-shaped Shreddies. Dhu
Re: Kernel panic with HP Compaq dc7800 and ACPI (with attachement)
Aurelien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oups... Correct version with attachement. Sorry. When booting a 4.2-current kernel on a HP Compaq dc7800, the system crashes if ACPI is enabled (this is by default with current). Attached a dmesg. I can test patches if necessary. The same problem arises on Linux 2.6, so this might be related to the BIOS. I have the same trouble on a dc7700, i have to disable acpiprt* to avoid the panic. It is like this since i have upgraded from -release to current. Since i have built the GENERIC kernel with updated source from CVS, and i still have the trouble, last cvs checkout and build was yesterday. On the panic, in ddb, i typed trace, ps, boot dump or boot crash. I failed to find the kernel panic in /var/log/messages*. I have space in all partitions, read http://www.openbsd.org/report.html, crash(4), savecore(8) have ddb.log=1 in sysctl. In /var/crash, i only have B : $more /var/crash/minfree 4096 The panic message first showB : panic : aml_die aml_setbufint : 988 (Note that disabling the acpiprt is not enough in GENERIC.MP, no panic but the kernel seems to hang on the hard disk detection. I did not investigate more.) I'm sorry not to report the whole message, but i didn't understood how to get it. I'd be glad to report it if someone is kind enough to tell me how to do it. Anyway here is my dmesg with acpiprt disabled with the -c option on bootB : OpenBSD 4.2-current (GENERIC) #2: Mon Feb 18 12:36:58 CET 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.87 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SS E3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,CX16,xTPR real mem = 4291720151040 (15021961547293392896MB) avail mem = 4115583893504 (15021961550783053824MB) User Kernel Config UKC disable 426 426 acpiprt* disabled UKC exit Continuing... mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 08/30/06, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xea130, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xeb9f0 (69 entries) bios0: vendor Hewlett-Packard version 786E1 v01.05 date 08/30/2006 bios0: Hewlett-Packard HP Compaq dc7700p Convertible Minitower acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC ASF! MCFG TCPA SLIC acpi0: wakeup devices COM1(S4) COM2(S4) PCI0(S4) PEG1(S4) IGBE(S4) PCX1(S4) PCX2(S4) HUB_(S4) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3) USB4(S 3) USB5(S3) EUS1(S3) EUS2(S3) PBTN(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpiprt at acpi0 not configured acpiprt at acpi0 not configured acpiprt at acpi0 not configured acpiprt at acpi0 not configured acpiprt at acpi0 not configured acpicpu0 at acpi0 acpibtn0 at acpi0: PBTN bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xb000! 0xcb000/0x1000 0xcc000/0x1000 0xe7600/0x8a00! cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82Q965 Host rev 0x02 agp0 at pchb0: aperture at 0xe000, size 0x800 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82Q965 Video rev 0x02 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) Intel 82Q965 HECI rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 not configured pciide0 at pci0 dev 3 function 2 Intel 82Q965 PT IDER rev 0x02: DMA (unsupported), channel 0 wired to native-PCI, channel 1 w ired to native-PCI pciide0: using irq 10 for native-PCI interrupt pciide0: channel 0 ignored (not responding; disabled or no drives?) pciide0: channel 1 ignored (not responding; disabled or no drives?) Intel 82Q965 KT rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 3 function 3 not configured em0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 Intel ICH8 IGP AMT rev 0x02: irq 5, address 00:0f:fe:6f:4f:46 uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 10 uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 11 ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 5 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801H HD Audio rev 0x02: irq 11 azalia0: codec[s]: Realtek/0x0262 audio0 at azalia0 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x02 pci1 at ppb0 bus 32 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 10 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 11 ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x02: irq 10 usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0xf2 pci2 at ppb1 bus 7 pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801HO LPC rev 0x02 pciide1 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801H SATA rev 0x02: DMA, channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured t o native-PCI pciide1: using irq 10 for native-PCI interrupt wd0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0: ST3160812AS wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 152627MB, 312581808 sectors wd0(pciide1:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 atapiscsi0 at pciide1 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
On 2008/02/19 11:56, Daniel Andersson wrote: I tried OpenBSD last autumn but had some trouble running rtorrent. Quoting a post I made at a forum: Every now and then it Freezes. I can't access it through ssh or physically. .. Is there is a fix for it yet? No, but it has been reported that if the system is doing other things at the same time, the chance of freezing is much less. (specifically freezes were seen with rtorrent+top, they were not seen when logging vmstat output at the same time). We also have transmission in ports, which works nicely, btw - command line, GUI, and there's a nice DHTML webinterface (clutch) available too (clutch is not in ports yet but I have a nearly-finished port for it).
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:07:50AM +0100, Alexander Hall wrote: The suggestion about installing packages into /whatever is fine if stated as a suggestion and/or question. I do not agree, but still I think the question is valid. However, adding It doesn't need any funding to fix this. makes it seem like a mistake that is trivial to fix, and I can understand if that pisses Marc off. ...however it was just an answer to Michael Dexters suggestion... (read the thread). BTW, think about all ports with hardcoded paths to /usr/local/dependency. One might argue that those ports are broken, but I'd guess there are quite a lot of them. Hardcoded? So, changing LOCALBASE could be even dangerous, I'm afraid. Nothing can I do then with this. -- pozdrawiam / regards Zbigniew Baniewski
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:25:09AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2008/02/19 11:56, Daniel Andersson wrote: I tried OpenBSD last autumn but had some trouble running rtorrent. Quoting a post I made at a forum: Every now and then it Freezes. I can't access it through ssh or physically. .. Is there is a fix for it yet? No, but it has been reported that if the system is doing other things at the same time, the chance of freezing is much less. (specifically freezes were seen with rtorrent+top, they were not seen when logging vmstat output at the same time). We also have transmission in ports, which works nicely, btw - command line, GUI, and there's a nice DHTML webinterface (clutch) available too (clutch is not in ports yet but I have a nearly-finished port for it). Speaking of transmission, there's a grammar error/typo in DESCR-main: ``This is the command line and daemon clients.'' I think it should be: ``These are the command line and daemon clients.'' And to the OP: I've been using rtorrent for more than a year now and it never stopped/blocked/froze/etc.
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
On Feb 19, 2008 5:16 PM, Duncan Patton a Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:33:12 +0530 Mayuresh Kathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It just led me to ponder, what is OpenBSD's ultimate goal? What, exactly, is yours? My ultimate goal is to have an OS which would give me; stability, security, a better default window manager, something as good as DTrace, something as good as FireEngine, a file system which would hold a lot of big files, you can assume it to be porn if you want :-) and, a system which is as free off GNU software as possible. That's the reason I've been gathering good C developers, so that they could either; 1. take up complex projects like FireEngine/DTrace, 2. write replacements for as many GNU tools/utilities as possible, 3. be a landing stage for newer developers who get intimidated by the intensity of the core developers. I've read thru this thread and you are remarkably obscure about your intentions, but it seems to me that OBSD somehow does not fit your marketing plan, which seems to have a lot in common with New, Improved, Diamond-shaped Shreddies. I've clearly pointed out what I've wanted since my second mail to the thread. I don't *have* a marketing plan, I'm a developer, remember? ~Mayuresh
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Re: What is our ultimate goal??
Mayuresh Kathe ha scritto: On Feb 19, 2008 5:16 PM, Duncan Patton a Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:33:12 +0530 Mayuresh Kathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It just led me to ponder, what is OpenBSD's ultimate goal? What, exactly, is yours? My ultimate goal is to have an OS which would give me; stability, security, a better default window manager, something as good as DTrace, something as good as FireEngine, a file system which would hold a lot of big files, you can assume it to be porn if you want :-) Download OpenSolaris from sun.com or ask Sun to send by mail, it's free of charge, and dont break anymore. A bunch of developers work every fuckin day to give us a good operating system, if you dont like it, change and dont bother. and, a system which is as free off GNU software as possible. That's the reason I've been gathering good C developers, so that they could either; 1. take up complex projects like FireEngine/DTrace, 2. write replacements for as many GNU tools/utilities as possible, 3. be a landing stage for newer developers who get intimidated by the intensity of the core developers. Again, use OpenSolaris, in Sun new developers and core developers are just scared to be fired. I've read thru this thread and you are remarkably obscure about your intentions, but it seems to me that OBSD somehow does not fit your marketing plan, which seems to have a lot in common with New, Improved, Diamond-shaped Shreddies. I've clearly pointed out what I've wanted since my second mail to the thread. I don't *have* a marketing plan, I'm a developer, remember? Are you a java developer right? Perfect, work on OpenSDK or Glassfish project. Or at least for javadesktopsystem. You can use on OpenSolaris Sun Studio or Netbeans, or eclipse. ~Mayuresh I hope this thread need to be closed, this thread smell like a fish after four days. Francesco PS = You dont understand my english, ok, but i think this post it's sharp.period.
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
William Boshuck ha scritto: On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 10:16:08AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: ... I've NEVER got any of the code for FREE, Yes, you did. The code is free. The CDs are not. Maybe Mr.Mayuresh Kathe, dont know anoncvs[1]. By a 4.2 release, we can download a bootable iso from ftp site. So, at least the first cd it's free too :P [1] http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:12:46AM -0600, Tony Abernethy wrote: Fair No. It is like dead fish after 4 days. Actually, what was private in that message? You don't have to wonder, what. Any correspondence, which hasn't been sent to the public, is private - and needs the agreement of the party to be published. Especially such emotional one. -- pozdrawiam / regards Zbigniew Baniewski
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
Fair No. It is like dead fish after 4 days. Actually, what was private in that message? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zbigniew Baniewski Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:01 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: What is our ultimate goal?? On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:52:35AM -0600, Tony Abernethy wrote: I may be an oaf, but it is with FULL REALIZATION THAT I AM SENDING THIS TO THE LIST MY PURPOSE IN DOING SO IS TO PAINT YOU WITH SOMEHTING RESEMBLING YOUR TRUE COLORS. Is it fair? Some day, someone other will forward _your_ private correspondence to the public. If you don't like your opponents attitude - just stop talking to him, and it's enough. -- pozdrawiam / regards Zbigniew Baniewski
Re: take threads off the table
I wonder where the perceived bottleneck is. I mean, you have two boxes connected by ethernet (whatever speed), and you're running a sftp bulk file transfer. What is the limiting factor? Are the boxes less than 20% idle? Is the nework saturated or is there room for more throughput? Much of this is answered in the papers or presentations on the HPN-SSH website (http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/). The executive summary is that once you start hitting GigE speeds the CPU becomes the limiting factor. In our test environment (two 8 core machines hooked up over a LAN) AES128-CTR got us around 500Mb/s. At that point the SSH process was pegging a core at 100%. When we tried the same test with th threaded/parallelized AES-CTR mode cipher we saw the performance nearly double to 938Mb/s. In other words, with a multiple-CPU box, how much would threads help? A lot. Even in a dual core box I was able to essentially double my throughput along a transatlantic path (nearly 800Mb/s fully encrypted between Pittsburgh and Switzerland). Within the whole ssh section, where does the CPU spend its time? Is it crypto or is it in shuffling network packets? Would offloading the crypto to a separate process (and therefore processor) help? This is a good question and we don't actually have numbers that are firm enough that I feel comfortable sharing. However, I can say that well more than 50% of the time is spent in encryption and the HMAC cost is probably under 20%. There are definite and distinct advantages to parallelization in terms of performance.
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
If you mean it is now my private property, then I am free to do with it as I please. Otherwise, if it should be kept private, maybe it should be kept private. Why should a discussion of threads be souch an emotional one? Do the threads have feeling now? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zbigniew Baniewski Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:20 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: What is our ultimate goal?? On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:12:46AM -0600, Tony Abernethy wrote: Fair No. It is like dead fish after 4 days. Actually, what was private in that message? You don't have to wonder, what. Any correspondence, which hasn't been sent to the public, is private - and needs the agreement of the party to be published. Especially such emotional one. -- pozdrawiam / regards Zbigniew Baniewski
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
Tony Abernethy a icrit : If you mean it is now my private property, then I am free to do with it as I please. Otherwise, if it should be kept private, maybe it should be kept private. Why should a discussion of threads be souch an emotional one? Do the threads have feeling now? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zbigniew Baniewski Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:20 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: What is our ultimate goal?? On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:12:46AM -0600, Tony Abernethy wrote: Fair No. It is like dead fish after 4 days. Actually, what was private in that message? You don't have to wonder, what. Any correspondence, which hasn't been sent to the public, is private - and needs the agreement of the party to be published. Especially such emotional one. -- pozdrawiam / regards Zbigniew Baniewski Since you are both discussing about privacy, could you *please* take this discussion private ? Thanks
Re: Using CVS to back up /etc
Clint Pachl escreveu: This is exactly why I don't allow /etc, /var/cron/tabs, and so on to be working directories. Like you mentioned, it will crap out some programs. I use rcs instead of cvs; much simpler and effortless to setup and manage. What I do is create an RCS root, /root/rcsroot. The first time I need to change a system file, I copy it into /root/rcsroot, maintaining directory hierarchy of course. For example, /etc/pf.conf would go to /root/rcsroot/etc/pf.conf. I make changes to files in the rcsroot, and when I like the way they look, I copy them to the system and check them in. This preserves original file permissions and doesn't clutter the system with repos stuff. Also, I can quickly see and maintain only what I have modified. I must confess that I perform these actions manually, like the copying of the working file back to the system. This could be scripted to make it even easier. I thought about it, but it's just so easy already. For example you could modify a config file using a single command: `confedit /etc/pf.conf`. It could perform the 2 or 3 other commands needed to copy files around and do the check-in. For backup, I do `dump | ssh backupbox` from cron. Simple and easy. This is a good discussion. Please do enlighten use with your setup. -pachl I do the same here, as i stated before. The difference is that i use central svn repo on the office, and do the checkout and the commits from the local sites. I have a nifty script that compares the svn tree with the / filesystem. Any changes and i will be told so immediately. The process is manual also, but there are some things that i do point directly to the svn tree, like squid conf's and openvpn stuff. My /etc/squid/squid.conf points to /root/frw-name/etc/squid.conf. Only no point things that are chrooted like named and httpd that can't being a symlink to the tree. This is a very interesting debate, and there certainly lots of ways of accomplish this task. It would be nice if others enlighten us with the other methods they use. My regards, -- Giancarlo Razzolini Linux User 172199 Red Hat Certified Engineer no:804006389722501 Moleque Sem Conteudo Numero #002 Slackware Current OpenBSD Stable Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft Snike Tecnologia em Informatica 4386 2A6F FFD4 4D5F 5842 6EA0 7ABE BBAB 9C0E 6B85 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:52:35AM -0600, Tony Abernethy wrote: I may be an oaf, but it is with FULL REALIZATION THAT I AM SENDING THIS TO THE LIST MY PURPOSE IN DOING SO IS TO PAINT YOU WITH SOMEHTING RESEMBLING YOUR TRUE COLORS. Is it fair? Some day, someone other will forward _your_ private correspondence to the public. If you don't like your opponents attitude - just stop talking to him, and it's enough. From that should I deduce that you LIKE my attitude? Otherwise, seems you are incapable of taking your own advice. Proponents of something who cannot stand their own advice --- dubious at best. What's the term? locally self-contradictory? Imagine the errors when things are not so tightly connected.
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:37:33AM -0600, Tony Abernethy wrote: You mean that the proponents of threads are overyly emotional? If the sides are calling each other with terms like idiot - or something similar - do you really find it as non-emotional? How do you intend to have rational discourse in such an event? As you can see, yesterday OpenBSD-developer called me an idiot - just because I dare to not agree with him. Most likely because you ARE an idiot.
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:52:35AM -0600, Tony Abernethy wrote: I may be an oaf, but it is with FULL REALIZATION THAT I AM SENDING THIS TO THE LIST MY PURPOSE IN DOING SO IS TO PAINT YOU WITH SOMEHTING RESEMBLING YOUR TRUE COLORS. Is it fair? Some day, someone other will forward _your_ private correspondence to the public. If you don't like your opponents attitude - just stop talking to him, and it's enough. -- pozdrawiam / regards Zbigniew Baniewski
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:42:13AM -0600, Tony Abernethy wrote: If you mean it is now my private property, then I am free to do with it as I please. Otherwise, if it should be kept private, maybe it should be kept private. Why should a discussion of threads be souch an emotional one? Do the threads have feeling now? I'm pretty sure - I'm supposing this in your favor - that you know, what I mean. The semantics used above isn't going to change anything; we aren't in court at the trial here, anyway. -- pozdrawiam / regards Zbigniew Baniewski
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
On 14:42:37 Feb 19, Paul Irofti wrote: I've been using rtorrent for more than a year now and it never stopped/blocked/froze/etc. I can second that . Little annoyances here and there but overall rtorrent works very well under OpenBSD. If it freezes very likely it is a network issue. -Girish
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
Thanks for the speedy replies guys! No, but it has been reported that if the system is doing other things at the same time, the chance of freezing is much less. (specifically freezes were seen with rtorrent+top, they were not seen when logging vmstat output at the same time). We also have transmission in ports, which works nicely, btw - command line, GUI, and there's a nice DHTML webinterface (clutch) available too (clutch is not in ports yet but I have a nearly-finished port for it). Okay, too bad. Does transmission support rss, or the watch_directory thingie that rtorrent has? On 14:42:37 Feb 19, Paul Irofti wrote: I've been using rtorrent for more than a year now and it never stopped/blocked/froze/etc. I can second that . Little annoyances here and there but overall rtorrent works very well under OpenBSD. If it freezes very likely it is a network issue. -Girish Could you please elaborate? The only thing that was working after the freeze was the routing. I guess I could try FreeBSD since they have pf too. iptables is driving me nuts.
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
Girish Venkatachalam ha scritto: On 14:42:37 Feb 19, Paul Irofti wrote: I've been using rtorrent for more than a year now and it never stopped/blocked/froze/etc. I can second that . Little annoyances here and there but overall rtorrent works very well under OpenBSD. If it freezes very likely it is a network issue. -Girish I agree. I use rtorrent and my system never freeze. I think it's a network problem. Maybe a network card that freak out... Francesco
Powerbook G4 turn off screen
Hi, I have installed OpenBSD 4.2 GENERIC#1517 macppc on my Powerbook G4 (dmesg below) to use it as a server. Is there a way to power down the screen to save power? Floor Terra [ using 375776 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ] console out [NVDA,Display-A]console in [keyboard] ADB found using parent NVDA,Parent:: memaddr a000 size 1000, : consaddr a0008000, : ioaddr 9100, size 100: memtag 8000, iotag 8000: width 1024 linebytes 1024 height 768 depth 8 Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2007 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http://www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 4.2 (GENERIC) #1517: Tue Aug 28 10:42:20 MDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/macppc/compile/GENERIC real mem = 1342177280 (1280MB) avail mem = 1287536640 (1227MB) mainbus0 at root: model PowerBook6,8 cpu0 at mainbus0: 7447A (Revision 0x102): 1499 MHz: 512KB L2 cache memc0 at mainbus0: uni-n hw-clock at memc0 not configured kiic0 at memc0 offset 0xf8001000 iic0 at kiic0 adt0 at iic0 addr 0x2e: adt7467 rev 0x71 asms0 at iic0 addr 0x58, rev 1.34, version 0.1 mpcpcibr0 at mainbus0 pci: uni-north, Revision 0xff pci0 at mpcpcibr0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 Apple UniNorth AGP rev 0x00 vgafb0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 NVIDIA GeForce FX Go 5200 rev 0xa1, mmio wsdisplay0 at vgafb0 mux 1: console (std, vt100 emulation) mpcpcibr1 at mainbus0 pci: uni-north, Revision 0x5 pci1 at mpcpcibr1 bus 0 pchb1 at pci1 dev 11 function 0 Apple UniNorth PCI rev 0x00 Broadcom BCM4306 rev 0x03 at pci1 dev 18 function 0 not configured macobio0 at pci1 dev 23 function 0 Apple Intrepid rev 0x00 openpic0 at macobio0 offset 0x4: version 0x4614 little endian macgpio0 at macobio0 offset 0x50 modem-reset at macgpio0 offset 0x1d not configured modem-power at macgpio0 offset 0x1c not configured accelerometer-1 at macgpio0 offset 0x13 not configured accelerometer-2 at macgpio0 offset 0x14 not configured headphone-mute at macgpio0 offset 0x1f not configured amp-mute at macgpio0 offset 0x20 not configured hw-reset at macgpio0 offset 0x25 not configured linein-detect at macgpio0 offset 0xc not configured headphone-detect at macgpio0 offset 0x17 not configured macgpio1 at macgpio0 offset 0x9 irq 47 programmer-switch at macgpio0 offset 0x11 not configured cpu-vcore-select at macgpio0 offset 0x6b not configured gpio4 at macgpio0 offset 0x1e not configured escc-legacy at macobio0 offset 0x12000 not configured zsc0 at macobio0 offset 0x13000: irq 22,23 zstty0 at zsc0 channel 0 zstty1 at zsc0 channel 1 snapper0 at macobio0 offset 0x0: irq 30,1,2 timer at macobio0 offset 0x15000 not configured adb0 at macobio0 offset 0x16000 irq 25: via-pmu, 2 targets akbd0 at adb0 addr 2: iBook keyboard with inverted T (ISO layout) wskbd0 at akbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 abtn0 at adb0 addr 7: brightness/volume/eject buttons apm0 at adb0: battery flags 0x5, 98% charged piic0 at adb0 iic1 at piic0 battery at macobio0 offset 0x0 not configured backlight at macobio0 offset 0xf300 not configured kiic1 at macobio0 offset 0x18000 iic2 at kiic1 wdc0 at macobio0 offset 0x2 irq 24: DMA atapiscsi0 at wdc0 channel 0 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: MATSHITA, CD-RW CW-8123, CA14 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(wdc0:0:0): using BIOS timings, DMA mode 2 audio0 at snapper0 ohci0 at pci1 dev 24 function 0 Apple Intrepid USB rev 0x00: irq 0, version 1.0, legacy support ohci1 at pci1 dev 25 function 0 Apple Intrepid USB rev 0x00: irq 0, version 1.0, legacy support ohci2 at pci1 dev 26 function 0 Apple Intrepid USB rev 0x00: irq 29, version 1.0, legacy support ohci3 at pci1 dev 27 function 0 NEC USB rev 0x43: irq 63, version 1.0 ohci4 at pci1 dev 27 function 1 NEC USB rev 0x43: irq 63, version 1.0 ehci0 at pci1 dev 27 function 2 NEC USB rev 0x04: irq 63 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0: NEC EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 usb1 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1: Apple OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb2 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2: Apple OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb3 at ohci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3: Apple OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb4 at ohci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub4 at usb4: NEC OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb5 at ohci4: USB revision 1.0 uhub5 at usb5: NEC OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 mpcpcibr2 at mainbus0 pci: uni-north, Revision 0x6 pci2 at mpcpcibr2 bus 0 pchb2 at pci2 dev 11 function 0 Apple UniNorth PCI rev 0x00 kauaiata0 at pci2 dev 13 function 0 Apple Intrepid ATA rev 0x00 wdc1 at kauaiata0 irq 39: DMA wd0 at wdc1 channel 0 drive 0: SAMSUNG HM160JC wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 152627MB, 312581808 sectors wd0(wdc1:0:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 5 Apple UniNorth Firewire rev 0x81 at pci2 dev 14 function 0 not configured gem0 at pci2 dev 15 function 0 Apple Uni-N2 GMAC rev 0x80: irq 41, address 00:11:24:da:75:ee bmtphy0 at gem0 phy
Re: take threads off the table
On Feb 19, 2008 9:30 AM, chris rapier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder where the perceived bottleneck is. I mean, you have two boxes connected by ethernet (whatever speed), and you're running a sftp bulk file transfer. What is the limiting factor? Are the boxes less than 20% idle? Is the nework saturated or is there room for more throughput? Much of this is answered in the papers or presentations on the HPN-SSH website (http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/). The executive summary is that once you start hitting GigE speeds the CPU becomes the limiting factor. In our test environment (two 8 core machines hooked up over a LAN) AES128-CTR got us around 500Mb/s. At that point the SSH process was pegging a core at 100%. When we tried the same test with th threaded/parallelized AES-CTR mode cipher we saw the performance nearly double to 938Mb/s. Probably out of scope, but I wonder if you guys would take a look at the Via C7 or Eden cpus? Apparently, in the past, some benchmarks showed spectacular results, compared with intel cpus. -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0feature=related
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
On Feb 19, 2008 10:45 AM, nicodache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using rtorrent on openbsd 4.1 for more than 6 months without a single breakdown. now, in less than 2 weeks, my 4.2 box (the same hardware, just upgraded version) froze twice... is it really a network issue ? or is it more like an rtorrent problem ? You've been using windows too much. If an application freezes the OS, it's an OS issue (it still may be an application issue, but no amount of application tickling of the OS should freeze the OS). -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0feature=related
openvpn client with tap device
Hi misc, I have the parameters below, in openvpn config. OpenBSD is the client, the server is already working with non OpenBSD clients. dev tun0 dev-type tap When I start openvpn, the system creates the interface tun0, ifconfig shows it like a real interface not a point to point, like I saw without the dev-type tap parameter. When the connection is setup I can ping the local IP address but not the server one. I played with route a bit, and I am not convinced with my settings yet. Before going further, I wanted to be sure that tap devices worked Ok with openvpn as there are not much information on it on google. Thanks in advance.
Re: Powerbook G4 turn off screen
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Floor Terra wrote: I have installed OpenBSD 4.2 GENERIC#1517 macppc on my Powerbook G4 (dmesg below) to use it as a server. Is there a way to power down the screen to save power? $ xset dpms force off -- Antoine
Re: Multi-Threaded SSH/SCP made by university of Puttsburgh
dhiggs wrote: If someone can split SSH into multiple threads, it should be just as possible to split it into multiple processes. However, I expect that most high-speed SSH traffic is SCP-/SFTP-based and therefore largely I/O bound, so it hasn't been high on anyone's requirements list. Based on my experience on working in the field of bulk data transfers on high speed networks for the past 6 years I'd have to say that you are, at the least, partly mistaken. However, maybe I'm not really understanding what you are saying. Could you expand on this a bit more? Chris
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
Please report bugs to libtorrent/rtorrent to the rtorrent website. He is more than willing to resolve bugs. As a matter of fact the main developer has a shell on my machine and regularly testbuilds before releasing stuff to ensure it builds out of the box on OpenBSD. ~% sudo grep rak /var/log/sshd/current U Password: 2007-09-07 23:24:13.714581500 Accepted publickey for rakshasa from x.x.x.x port 3731 ssh2 2007-10-25 16:27:34.605498500 Accepted publickey for rakshasa from x.x.x.x port 59548 ssh2 2008-01-29 13:49:04.304542500 Accepted publickey for rakshasa from x.x.x.x port 47815 ssh2 # Han
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
I've been using rtorrent on openbsd 4.1 for more than 6 months without a single breakdown. now, in less than 2 weeks, my 4.2 box (the same hardware, just upgraded version) froze twice... is it really a network issue ? or is it more like an rtorrent problem ? Cheers, On Feb 19, 2008 3:53 PM, Girish Venkatachalam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14:42:37 Feb 19, Paul Irofti wrote: I've been using rtorrent for more than a year now and it never stopped/blocked/froze/etc. I can second that . Little annoyances here and there but overall rtorrent works very well under OpenBSD. If it freezes very likely it is a network issue. -Girish
Re: -current, softraid on root?
On Feb 18, 2008 10:17 PM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not just yet! You can boot of something non-softraid and do the rest on softraid. This will be a feature I will work on once I have the initial 3 disciplines ready and we can handle foreign metadata. Then I'll work on booting/rooting a softraid. My todo list is still on my website if you'd like to contribute. Ah! Unfortunately, my coding-fu is non-existent. I take it you want raid-0, raid-1 and raid-5? OK. I think I'm going to just live with a 2pm nightly rsync to the backup drive. :) -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0feature=related
stupide question
i'm looking for the same function as locale on debian. i have looked on the faq and broswed man pages but i'm unable to find something interesting. thank you for your help -- Cassier Sebastien Network and Security staff LP-system 23 rue la boetie 75008 Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06 08 23 20 53
Re: Proxy between pop3s and pop3-only speaking blob?
Jon wrote: Here at work we're using an old version of Gordano Messaging Suite which only supports POP3, running on Redhat. The only way to get POP3s (if we can) is to upgrade to a newer version but we want to migrate to OpenBSD eventually. What tool(s) (that will work best with OpenBSD when we move over) would be ideal to run on the same machine to translate pop3 and pop3s or fetch the mail from Gordano then offer it via pop3s? You should be able to use stunnel. Stunnel listens as 'pop3s' and forwards the connection to pop3. I'm pretty sure there is a stunnel package and the sample config file even has an entry for pop3. You can even use it the other way too, a pop3 client connecting to a local stunnel instance that then connects to a pop3s server. Kind regards, Stefan
Re: stupide question
cassier sebastien a icrit : i'm looking for the same function as locale on debian. function or command ?
Re: Proxy between pop3s and pop3-only speaking blob?
On 2008/02/19 07:46, Jon wrote: Here at work we're using an old version of Gordano Messaging Suite which only supports POP3, running on Redhat. The only way to get POP3s (if we can) is to upgrade to a newer version but we want to migrate to OpenBSD eventually. What tool(s) (that will work best with OpenBSD when we move over) would be ideal to run on the same machine to translate pop3 and pop3s or fetch the mail from Gordano then offer it via pop3s? Dovecot can do this, it's an imap/pop3 server with a built-in proxy (whether a mailbox is proxied or handled directly is controlled by fields in the user database); this also gives a nice path where you can migrate to another email system user-by-user. You can also do a simple SSL offload with hoststated (now renamed relayd) or stunnel, haven't tried those with POP3 but I don't see why they wouldn't work.
Re: Proxy between pop3s and pop3-only speaking blob?
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 07:46:01AM -0800, Jon wrote: Here at work we're using an old version of Gordano Messaging Suite which only supports POP3, running on Redhat. The only way to get POP3s (if we can) is to upgrade to a newer version but we want to migrate to OpenBSD eventually. What tool(s) (that will work best with OpenBSD when we move over) would be ideal to run on the same machine to translate pop3 and pop3s or fetch the mail from Gordano then offer it via pop3s? I use stunnel to wrap ssl around pop3. There's a package for OpenBSD. http://www.stunnel.org/ http://www.openbsd.org/4.2_packages/i386/stunnel-4.20.tgz-long.html Martin
Proxy between pop3s and pop3-only speaking blob?
Here at work we're using an old version of Gordano Messaging Suite which only supports POP3, running on Redhat. The only way to get POP3s (if we can) is to upgrade to a newer version but we want to migrate to OpenBSD eventually. What tool(s) (that will work best with OpenBSD when we move over) would be ideal to run on the same machine to translate pop3 and pop3s or fetch the mail from Gordano then offer it via pop3s?
Re: stupide question
Gilles Chehade ha scritto: cassier sebastien a icrit : i'm looking for the same function as locale on debian. function or command ? I think he talking about a command that return as output a locale-specific information. Or better that do the same thing. Francesco
Mysql performance
Is there any benchmark with mysql + openbsd and Mysql + others OS like freebsd or linux? Anyone work with mysql on openbsd? I will work with theses and i need some sugestions.. thanks..
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
--- Daniel Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I tried OpenBSD last autumn but had some trouble running rtorrent. For the longest time, I ran the port net/BitTorrent with a script, and I recently solved some hardware related issues I had with it. But I never had system freezes. Yesterday, I switched over the net/ktorrent since it supports encryption, which I am finding I need for some very low seeded torrents, where all the seeds are running encryption. I have not experienced any system freezes with net/ktorrent, and I would definitely recommend it. Brian Note: I still run the default fvwm. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
Yesterday, I switched over the net/ktorrent since it supports encryption, which I am finding I need for some very low seeded torrents, where all the seeds are running encryption. I have not experienced any system freezes with net/ktorrent, and I would definitely recommend it. Brian Note: I still run the default fvwm. Thanks for the suggestion. However, I will not be running a GUI on that box. 'Ive been using rtorrent on openbsd 4.1 for more than 6 months without a single breakdown. now, in less than 2 weeks, my 4.2 box (the same hardware, just upgraded version) froze twice... is it really a network issue ? or is it more like an rtorrent problem ? Cheers, Hrm. I'm not sure if my box froze with 4.1. I remember having other issues with the integrated NICs though. I agree. I use rtorrent and my system never freeze. I think it's a network problem. Maybe a network card that freak out... Francesco I don't think it is the NICs, I bought two Intel PRO/1000 something.
Re: stupide question
Gilles Chehade ha scritto: cassier sebastien a icrit : i'm looking for the same function as locale on debian. function or command ? I think he talking about a command that return as output a locale-specific information. Or better that do the same thing. Cassier if you search a function: man NL_LANGINFO(3) Francesco
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
I tried OpenBSD last autumn but had some trouble running rtorrent. Quoting a post I made at a forum: Every now and then it Freezes. I can't access it through ssh or physically. The login prompt is blinking normally(I can't input anything though). The network still works though since I can browse the world wide web from my desktop(openbsd is fw/router). I tried to find out myself by reading this thread a few times, but I'm still not sure, so I need to ask: With Every now and then it Freezes you mean permanently? Your box doesn't recover by itself after a minute or two? Because I've a remotely similar problem at the moment, also since 4.2 or even a bit earlier (I run current). I don't think yet that it's similar enough to post about it in this thread, and if your box freezes permanently, it's probably not related. Tas.
Re: -current, softraid on root?
Enabled are RAID 0 and RAID 1. RAID 0 is for all intents and purposes good to go. RAID 1 misses rebuilds (hi henning!) at this moment. Crypto is being evaluated to ensure the crypto is strong enough to be trusted. It will remain disabled until that evaluation is complete. More on that one later. RAID 5 is a post 4.3 item for me. On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:22:42PM -0500, bofh wrote: On Feb 18, 2008 10:17 PM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not just yet! You can boot of something non-softraid and do the rest on softraid. This will be a feature I will work on once I have the initial 3 disciplines ready and we can handle foreign metadata. Then I'll work on booting/rooting a softraid. My todo list is still on my website if you'd like to contribute. Ah! Unfortunately, my coding-fu is non-existent. I take it you want raid-0, raid-1 and raid-5? OK. I think I'm going to just live with a 2pm nightly rsync to the backup drive. :) -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0feature=related
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
Paul Irofti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of transmission, there's a grammar error/typo in DESCR-main: ``This is the command line and daemon clients.'' I think it should be: ``These are the command line and daemon clients.'' I intended this to refer to _this package_, but I agree that the concord mismatch is very clunky. I'll rephrase the sentence. -- Christian naddy Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: openvpn client with tap device
thomas escreveu: Hi misc, I have the parameters below, in openvpn config. OpenBSD is the client, the server is already working with non OpenBSD clients. dev tun0 dev-type tap When I start openvpn, the system creates the interface tun0, ifconfig shows it like a real interface not a point to point, like I saw without the dev-type tap parameter. When the connection is setup I can ping the local IP address but not the server one. I played with route a bit, and I am not convinced with my settings yet. Before going further, I wanted to be sure that tap devices worked Ok with openvpn as there are not much information on it on google. Thanks in advance. From the openbsd tun(4) man page: . . . Both layer 3 and layer 2 tunneling is supported. Layer 3 tunneling is the default mode; to enable layer 2 tunneling mode the link0 flag needs to be set with ifconfig(8), or by setting up a hostname.if(5) configura- tion file for netstart(8). In layer 2 mode the tun interface is simulat- ing an Ethernet network interface. . . . So you need to set the link0 flag on the tun0 if. You do this by creating a /etc/hostname.tun0 containing the following statement: link0 up This should solve your problem. But, why use tap instead of tun? Routing is way more efficient than bridging. My regards, -- Giancarlo Razzolini Linux User 172199 Red Hat Certified Engineer no:804006389722501 Moleque Sem Conteudo Numero #002 Slackware Current OpenBSD Stable Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn Snike Tecnologia em Informatica 4386 2A6F FFD4 4D5F 5842 6EA0 7ABE BBAB 9C0E 6B85 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 06:11:12PM +0100, Daniel Andersson wrote: I don't think it is the NICs, I bought two Intel PRO/1000 something. FWIW, I also saw this freeze while using rtorrent, and I also have an Intel PRO/1000 NIC: em0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82540EM) rev 0x02: irq 10, address 00:c0:9f:1e:26:2c I have no more data than this, it's just a mere 'me too' and one thing we have in common (the NIC). Cheers, -- Jon
Re: Powerbook G4 turn off screen
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Floor Terra wrote: Now I have to run X, but that's ok. Ah... well then: $ wsconsctl display.backlight=0 -- Antoine
Re: Powerbook G4 turn off screen
On 2/19/08, Antoine Jacoutot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Floor Terra wrote: I have installed OpenBSD 4.2 GENERIC#1517 macppc on my Powerbook G4 (dmesg below) to use it as a server. Is there a way to power down the screen to save power? $ xset dpms force off Thanks. Now I have to run X, but that's ok. Floor
Not updating .libs-XXXXX, remember to clean it (huh?)
I am working with a recent snapshot installation (090208) and I have some questions regarding updating packages with pkg_add. ... 1. I am shown the following: Not updating .libs-curl-7.16.2, remember to clean it Not updating .libs-db-4.2.52p11, remember to clean it Not updating .libs-pcre-7.1, remember to clean it Not updating .libs-png-1.2.18, remember to clean it How do I clean it? I have these files on my system. By cleaning it should I merely delete the earlier version? If so, why doesn't pkg_add do it? /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.8.0 /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.6.0 /usr/local/lib/db4/libdb.so.4.2 /usr/local/lib/db4/libdb.so.5.0 /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.2.1 /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.1.1 /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5.2 /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.6.0 ... 2. I am using the following incantation: # pkg_add -ui but the documentation [1] says to use: # pkg_add -ui -F depends -F updatedepends However, the man page states that the first keyword is unsafe. What is the recommended procedure and why would I need to use special keywords for forcing stuff? ... 3. To serve remote systems, on my server I store installed packages locally through the use of the PKG_CACHE variable. Thus, after a packages upgrade, I am left with multiple versions of the same package. Is there any known method, besides manual deletion, that will clear out the older versions? Thanks in advance, /juan [1] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade42.html#Pkgup Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/
Re: Powerbook G4 turn off screen
On 2/19/08, Antoine Jacoutot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Floor Terra wrote: Now I have to run X, but that's ok. Ah... well then: $ wsconsctl display.backlight=0 Even better! Floor
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
On 19/02/2008, nicodache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using rtorrent on openbsd 4.1 for more than 6 months without a single breakdown. now, in less than 2 weeks, my 4.2 box (the same hardware, just upgraded version) froze twice... I have very similar experiences. Since my upgrade to 4.2 and rtorrent 0.7.4 + libtorrent 0.11.4 my system (soekris 4801) freezes after running rtorrent for a couple of hours. I had no problems at all before upgrading. Some interesting facts: - no running daemon is responding any more (sshd, dhcpd, smbd) - no response to pings - no response to commands via serial connection BUT - routing and NAT still works Some debug output can be found below: ddb trace Debugger(d0b1fc00,d3c95700,d3bc6016,f9040001,3f8) at Debugger+0x4 comintr(d0b1f000) at comintr+0x9f Xrecurse_legacy4() at Xrecurse_legacy4+0xad --- interrupt --- apm_cpu_idle(c0,d078d380,d078d200,7fff,d0335a7b) at apm_cpu_idle+0x42 idle_loop(d08c7f00,4,d08c7f18,d0332d66,d08c7f00) at idle_loop+0x5 sleep_finish(d08c7f00,1,4,d06979cc,0) at sleep_finish+0x4d tsleep(d078d200,4,d06979cc,0) at tsleep+0x7a uvm_scheduler(d078d1dc,3,0,d064e610,2) at uvm_scheduler+0x1b main(0,0,0,0,0) at main+0x713 ddb ps PID PPID PGRPUID S FLAGS WAIT COMMAND 12318 30727 30727 0 3 0x4000 km_alloc1wnewsyslog 30727 24283 30727 0 3 0x4080 pause sh 24283 8572 8572 0 30x80 piperdcron 5981 9083 5981 1001 3 0x4002 km_alloc1wrtorrent 9083 28865 9083 1001 3 0x4082 pause ksh 28865 1 28865 1001 30x80 selectscreen 11974 1 11974 0 3 0x4002 inode login 8572 1 8572 0 3 0x2000 km_alloc1wcron 20227 1 20227 0 30x81 selectnmbd 5055 9940 9940 0 3 0x181 pause smbd 9940 1 9940 0 3 0x181 selectsmbd 4635 1 4635 0 30x80 selectsshd 23343 1 23343 0 3 0x180 selectinetd 7434 11543 11543 74 3 0x180 bpf pflogd 11543 1 11543 0 30x80 netio pflogd 16394 20490 20490 73 3 0x180 poll syslogd 20490 1 20490 0 30x88 netio syslogd 19176 1 19176 77 3 0x180 poll dhclient 13003 1 13276 0 30x82 poll dhclient 12 0 0 0 30x100200 crypto_wait crypto 11 0 0 0 30x100200 aiodoned aiodoned 10 0 0 0 30x100200 syncerupdate 9 0 0 0 30x100200 cleaner cleaner 8 0 0 0 30x100200 reaperreaper 7 0 0 0 30x100200 inode pagedaemon 6 0 0 0 30x100200 pftm pfpurge 5 0 0 0 30x100200 usbtskusbtask 4 0 0 0 30x100200 usbevtusb0 3 0 0 0 30x100200 bored syswq 2 0 0 0 30x100200 kmalloc kmthread 1 0 1 0 3 0x4080 wait init 0 -1 0 0 3 0x80200 scheduler swapper
Re: Not updating .libs-XXXXX, remember to clean it (huh?)
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:07:25PM -0500, Juan Miscaro wrote: I am working with a recent snapshot installation (090208) and I have some questions regarding updating packages with pkg_add. ... 1. I am shown the following: Not updating .libs-curl-7.16.2, remember to clean it Not updating .libs-db-4.2.52p11, remember to clean it Not updating .libs-pcre-7.1, remember to clean it Not updating .libs-png-1.2.18, remember to clean it How do I clean it? You could remove those packages with something like # pkg_delete /var/db/pkg/.libs-curl-7.16.2 But make sure you have not compiled something without using the ports system which need those libs. I have these files on my system. By cleaning it should I merely delete the earlier version? If so, why doesn't pkg_add do it? At the time of updating those packages the shared libraries were still needed from other packages. Therefore those .libs-* packages which only contain the shared libs. /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.8.0 /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.6.0 /usr/local/lib/db4/libdb.so.4.2 /usr/local/lib/db4/libdb.so.5.0 /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.2.1 /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.1.1 /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5.2 /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.6.0 This are these old libs and their newer versions. ... 2. I am using the following incantation: # pkg_add -ui but the documentation [1] says to use: # pkg_add -ui -F depends -F updatedepends You could add -F alwaysupdate However, the man page states that the first keyword is unsafe. What is the recommended procedure and why would I need to use special keywords for forcing stuff? IMO the above looks good. For example package B depends on A and both need an update. You can't simply update A because there is another package (B) which depends on it and the dependancies doesn't match for the newer A. You can't simply update B because of missing dependancy either. Therefore you need to force the update. I hope I understood and explained this correct. ... 3. To serve remote systems, on my server I store installed packages locally through the use of the PKG_CACHE variable. Thus, after a packages upgrade, I am left with multiple versions of the same package. Is there any known method, besides manual deletion, that will clear out the older versions? I don't know. Thanks in advance, /juan [1] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade42.html#Pkgup Regards, Markus
Re: Not updating .libs-XXXXX, remember to clean it (huh?)
Juan Miscaro wrote: 1. I am shown the following: Not updating .libs-curl-7.16.2, remember to clean it Not updating .libs-db-4.2.52p11, remember to clean it Not updating .libs-pcre-7.1, remember to clean it Not updating .libs-png-1.2.18, remember to clean it How do I clean it? http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2007-04/1780.html
Re: -current, softraid on root?
On Feb 19, 2008 12:55 PM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enabled are RAID 0 and RAID 1. RAID 0 is for all intents and purposes good to go. RAID 1 misses rebuilds (hi henning!) at this moment. Crypto is being evaluated to ensure the crypto is strong enough to be trusted. It will remain disabled until that evaluation is complete. More on that one later. Wait - you're talking about full disk crypto, raid 1, bootable, in the future? Oooo, I heartily endorse and subscribe to this product and/or feature. RAID 5 is a post 4.3 item for me. Cool. Useful for the future, I just like bootable root on raid1 - no pressures from me though! :) -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0feature=related
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:08:50PM +0100, Jon Olsson wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 06:11:12PM +0100, Daniel Andersson wrote: I don't think it is the NICs, I bought two Intel PRO/1000 something. FWIW, I also saw this freeze while using rtorrent, and I also have an Intel PRO/1000 NIC: em0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82540EM) rev 0x02: irq 10, address 00:c0:9f:1e:26:2c I have no more data than this, it's just a mere 'me too' and one thing we have in common (the NIC). Cheers, -- Jon I have seen this freeze with both xl(4) and nfe(4). -- Pierre Riteau
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
On Feb 19, 2008 4:50 AM, Mayuresh Kathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the reason I've been gathering good C developers, so that they could either; 1. take up complex projects like FireEngine/DTrace, 2. write replacements for as many GNU tools/utilities as possible, 3. be a landing stage for newer developers who get intimidated by the intensity of the core developers. good luck with that. be sure to let us know when it's all done, ok? thanks.
Re: Mysql performance
raven wrote: Gustavo Polillo ha scritto: Is there any benchmark with mysql + openbsd and Mysql + others OS like freebsd or linux? Anyone work with mysql on openbsd? I will work with theses and i need some sugestions.. thanks.. [Google link shortened, but search terms preserved:] http://www.google.it/search?q=mysql+performance+freebsd Somehow I don't think that's going to cover OpenBSD results much... Gustavo: what kind of hardware? On single processor systems, OpenBSD MySQL performance was relatively close to FreeBSD and Linux last time I looked at these kinds of benchmarks. FreeBSD (particularly 7) and Linux are going to smoke OpenBSD's MySQL performance on multiple processors. On the other hand, PostgreSQL will see performance gains from SMP on all of those platforms. What's more, you will find many examples across the 'Net of PostgreSQL scaling to high load or more CPUs better than MySQL. I mention this mostly because I have no idea what you're doing, or what your requirements are, so it is possible that PostgreSQL will serve your needs better - but perhaps you have some restrictions that require MySQL after all. (for everyone else: I'm really not trying to argue about OpenBSD's threading implementation here, and I don't want to get into whether threads or processes are generally the right solution...) -- Matthew Weigel hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
I have very similar experiences. Since my upgrade to 4.2 and rtorrent 0.7.4 + libtorrent 0.11.4 my system (soekris 4801) freezes after running rtorrent for a couple of hours. I had no problems at all before upgrading. Some interesting facts: - no running daemon is responding any more (sshd, dhcpd, smbd) - no response to pings - no response to commands via serial connection BUT - routing and NAT still works Yes. That is exactly how it was for me too. I tried to find out myself by reading this thread a few times, but I'm still not sure, so I need to ask: With Every now and then it Freezes you mean permanently? Your box doesn't recover by itself after a minute or two? Because I've a remotely similar problem at the moment, also since 4.2 or even a bit earlier (I run current). I don't think yet that it's similar enough to post about it in this thread, and if your box freezes permanently, it's probably not related. Tas. Yes. it is a permanent freeze. It would freeze sometime at night, and the next morning it would still be frozen. Only the routing part works. Daniel Andersson
Re: -current, softraid on root?
Hijacking this thread to ask another question related to softraid: is it possible to disassemble a RAID volume? I wanted to test RAID0, typed 1 instead, searched the manpages... seems the only solution is wiping metadata and rebooting? On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:55:44AM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: Enabled are RAID 0 and RAID 1. RAID 0 is for all intents and purposes good to go. RAID 1 misses rebuilds (hi henning!) at this moment. Crypto is being evaluated to ensure the crypto is strong enough to be trusted. It will remain disabled until that evaluation is complete. More on that one later. RAID 5 is a post 4.3 item for me. On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:22:42PM -0500, bofh wrote: On Feb 18, 2008 10:17 PM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not just yet! You can boot of something non-softraid and do the rest on softraid. This will be a feature I will work on once I have the initial 3 disciplines ready and we can handle foreign metadata. Then I'll work on booting/rooting a softraid. My todo list is still on my website if you'd like to contribute. Ah! Unfortunately, my coding-fu is non-existent. I take it you want raid-0, raid-1 and raid-5? OK. I think I'm going to just live with a 2pm nightly rsync to the backup drive. :) -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0feature=related
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
On mar, 2008-02-19 at 20:08 +0100, Jon Olsson wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 06:11:12PM +0100, Daniel Andersson wrote: I don't think it is the NICs, I bought two Intel PRO/1000 something. FWIW, I also saw this freeze while using rtorrent, and I also have an Intel PRO/1000 NIC: em0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82540EM) rev 0x02: irq 10, address 00:c0:9f:1e:26:2c I have no more data than this, it's just a mere 'me too' and one thing we have in common (the NIC). Cheers, me too :) with an em0 at pci2 dev 1 function 0 Intel PRO/1000XT (82544EI) rev 0x02: apic 4 int 0 (irq 10), address 00:40:d0:2e:96:ef rtorrent freeze some time when I have many torrent in download, now I'm using btpd since 1 week and I have no freeze anymore.
Re: -current, softraid on root?
We will eventually boot and root all/most RAID sets. At the previous hackathon theo and tom wrote a whole bunch of code, which you'll never notice, to make this possible. We are not quiet there yet but the groundwork has been laid. It becomes very complicated when we get into the MD/MI part of this discussion. On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 03:26:12PM -0500, bofh wrote: On Feb 19, 2008 12:55 PM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enabled are RAID 0 and RAID 1. RAID 0 is for all intents and purposes good to go. RAID 1 misses rebuilds (hi henning!) at this moment. Crypto is being evaluated to ensure the crypto is strong enough to be trusted. It will remain disabled until that evaluation is complete. More on that one later. Wait - you're talking about full disk crypto, raid 1, bootable, in the future? Oooo, I heartily endorse and subscribe to this product and/or feature. RAID 5 is a post 4.3 item for me. Cool. Useful for the future, I just like bootable root on raid1 - no pressures from me though! :) -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0feature=related
Re: -current, softraid on root?
Well that is one way of doing it but you can cheat by recreating the disk using the noauto flag (-C n). In fact when I actually will write the delete that is all it essentially will do unless the user selects force and then I'll clear the metadata area as well. On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 10:44:18PM +0100, Pierre Riteau wrote: Hijacking this thread to ask another question related to softraid: is it possible to disassemble a RAID volume? I wanted to test RAID0, typed 1 instead, searched the manpages... seems the only solution is wiping metadata and rebooting? On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:55:44AM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: Enabled are RAID 0 and RAID 1. RAID 0 is for all intents and purposes good to go. RAID 1 misses rebuilds (hi henning!) at this moment. Crypto is being evaluated to ensure the crypto is strong enough to be trusted. It will remain disabled until that evaluation is complete. More on that one later. RAID 5 is a post 4.3 item for me. On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:22:42PM -0500, bofh wrote: On Feb 18, 2008 10:17 PM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not just yet! You can boot of something non-softraid and do the rest on softraid. This will be a feature I will work on once I have the initial 3 disciplines ready and we can handle foreign metadata. Then I'll work on booting/rooting a softraid. My todo list is still on my website if you'd like to contribute. Ah! Unfortunately, my coding-fu is non-existent. I take it you want raid-0, raid-1 and raid-5? OK. I think I'm going to just live with a 2pm nightly rsync to the backup drive. :) -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0feature=related
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
--- Pierre Riteau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen this freeze with both xl(4) and nfe(4). Maybe it's time folks start posting their dmesg. Brian Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
I've also experienced issues with rtorrent on 4.2. During a busy (freeleech) period where I had more than my usual number of torrent and pairs, the system would freeze after approx 3 hrs. This happened regularly for the 3 or so days that things were busy. When the system froze I found I could still ping it, but it was otherwise unresponsive and required a hard boot. I was not able to find any evidence after the crash. The only other process running on the system is screen + irc with very low traffic. The otherall traffic for rtorfrent was fairly low as I'm rate limited to about 1Mb/s international. This was on a vmware server. Since then I've had no issues and regularly transfer files from that system at 25Mb/s or proxy traffic at about 85Mb/s. Cheers Jacob On 20/02/2008, at 9:05 AM, Pierre Riteau wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:08:50PM +0100, Jon Olsson wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 06:11:12PM +0100, Daniel Andersson wrote: I don't think it is the NICs, I bought two Intel PRO/1000 something. FWIW, I also saw this freeze while using rtorrent, and I also have an Intel PRO/1000 NIC: em0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82540EM) rev 0x02: irq 10, address 00:c0:9f:1e:26:2c I have no more data than this, it's just a mere 'me too' and one thing we have in common (the NIC). Cheers, -- Jon I have seen this freeze with both xl(4) and nfe(4). -- Pierre Riteau
Re: Multi-Threaded SSH/SCP made by university of Puttsburgh
On Feb 19, 2008 9:55 AM, chris rapier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dhiggs wrote: If someone can split SSH into multiple threads, it should be just as possible to split it into multiple processes. However, I expect that most high-speed SSH traffic is SCP-/SFTP-based and therefore largely I/O bound, so it hasn't been high on anyone's requirements list. Based on my experience on working in the field of bulk data transfers on high speed networks for the past 6 years I'd have to say that you are, at the least, partly mistaken. However, maybe I'm not really understanding what you are saying. Could you expand on this a bit more? Your experience vastly trumps mine, but I'll try to explain my thought processes: What is SSH used for? My initial breakdown was into two categories - shell/batch commands and SCP/SFTP file transport. I guessed that an application that outputs data to stdout at a rate of 10s or 100s of Mbit/s over long periods of time would quickly be changed. The output would be redirected into a file or postprocessed in some other fashion to reduce the amount of raw output a user would have to sort through. This left bulk file transfer as the primary source of SSH traffic. In retrospect I competely overlooked several very important facts. Modern disks have more than enough throughput to saturate gigabit connections - I have NO idea where my I/O bound statement came from. Also, SSH encrypted transport can be used for more than just 'put' and 'get'. There are probably more reasons why I'm misguided, but this is enough for now. I apologize and retract that portion of my post; you can safely disregard it as complete lunacy on my behalf. --david
Re: mfi diff to try to fix 'not queued' errors
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 08:11:58PM -0600, Vijay Sankar wrote:
On February 15, 2008 07:49:27 pm Marco Peereboom wrote:
Making sure the folks who requested it see this...
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 08:21:51PM -0500, Kenneth R Westerback wrote:
The diff below makes mfi use the 'backpressure' facility in the scsi
layer by allowing the retry of an i/o that can't be started. It
would be interesting to see if this helps those who are seeing the
'not queued' errors.
Ken
Index: mfi.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/dev/ic/mfi.c,v
retrieving revision 1.79
diff -u -p -r1.79 mfi.c
--- mfi.c 11 Feb 2008 01:07:02 - 1.79
+++ mfi.c 16 Feb 2008 01:14:12 -
@@ -986,7 +986,7 @@ mfi_scsi_cmd(struct scsi_xfer *xs)
if ((ccb = mfi_get_ccb(sc)) == NULL) {
DNPRINTF(MFI_D_CMD, %s: mfi_scsi_cmd no ccb\n, DEVNAME(sc));
- return (TRY_AGAIN_LATER);
+ return (NO_CCB);
}
xs-error = XS_NOERROR;
Thank you very much, we will test this next weekend. I hope to update the
firmware first, run the large writes to see if we can reproduce the error and
then apply this patch.
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President CEO
ForeTell Technologies Limited
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Did the change that was committed fix your issues? I never saw a
report that you had been able to test it.
Ken
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
I've left rTorrent running on 4.1 for weeks on end, (on both i386 and Sparc64), never had the OS freeze. I will try it again with 4.2, see if the results are different. Recently I've seen several unexplained freezes on very simple 4.2 servers (e.g running nothing but BIND and arpwatch), similar to the symptoms reported earlier in this thread with rTorrent. On Feb 19, 2008 10:46 AM, bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've been using windows too much. If an application freezes the OS, it's an OS issue (it still may be an application issue, but no amount of application tickling of the OS should freeze the OS). Agreed. I'd bet the issue boils down to networking and/or disk I/O. The rTorrent application exercises so many facets of the OS, myriad places where it could trigger a kernel/disk/routing/pf/etc bug, one which lesser applications wouldn't trip. If there's interest in putting up a tracker for a bunch of OpenBSD ports/packages/distfiles torrents, I'll gladly assist in exercising/exorcising this problem by running a seedbox. Kevin
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:39:50AM +0100, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:07:50AM +0100, Alexander Hall wrote: The suggestion about installing packages into /whatever is fine if stated as a suggestion and/or question. I do not agree, but still I think the question is valid. However, adding It doesn't need any funding to fix this. makes it seem like a mistake that is trivial to fix, and I can understand if that pisses Marc off. ...however it was just an answer to Michael Dexters suggestion... (read the thread). BTW, think about all ports with hardcoded paths to /usr/local/dependency. One might argue that those ports are broken, but I'd guess there are quite a lot of them. Hardcoded? So, changing LOCALBASE could be even dangerous, I'm afraid. Nothing can I do then with this. While I guess it would be nice if every package looked for LOCALBASE, I think that every OS/distro has its own version of hier which you violate at your peril. You don't happen to agree that OpenBSD uses /usr/local for things under the controll of package management. However, bucking that is likely more hard work than its worth. I put my little scripts that I want system wide in /opt/[domain]/usr/... which leaves /usr/local free for OBSD stuff. I don't package them up because then I'd have to package them up for my debian boxes: too much effort. Doug.
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
On Feb 20, 2008 2:59 AM, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 19, 2008 4:50 AM, Mayuresh Kathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the reason I've been gathering good C developers, so that they could either; 1. take up complex projects like FireEngine/DTrace, 2. write replacements for as many GNU tools/utilities as possible, 3. be a landing stage for newer developers who get intimidated by the intensity of the core developers. good luck with that. be sure to let us know when it's all done, ok? thanks. If thats sarcasm its really not warranted. If its not sarcasm, then we'll be posting to the list about our progress. Also, Ted, I'm sorry if you felt offended by my ranting about you not completing kernel threads, but the loss of those developers really felt bad. ~Mayuresh
Re: OpenBSD 4.1 Stable Strange Problem
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:33:46AM +0800, Wong Peter wrote: I know why is need to wait for long time because i have a long list of hacker address(table rules) hacked me before. Therefore, opnebsd need to check it before connect to internet. I need to wait around 5 minutes. If this is normal for you, then why Ctrl+C? I do not think you need to do this before bringing up the interfaces. The default PF ruleset is fairly restrictive, and is only in place for a brief time before the normal rules are loaded. Have you done something custom to rc to make this happen? The first problem is very strange where my wireless connection cannot be detected by my windows client. I sure that previously it worsk perfectly as ap but now is malfunction. Can you post your dmesg to the list? And perhaps the hostname.* file for the wireless card, and output from ifconfig? How to i browse tje [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. See http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscr=1b=200802w=2 or subscribe to the list. A billion thanks for oyur help. Thanks for add my thread to misc@openbsd.org You will also need to use Reply All in your mail program or remember to CC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail from the list does not automatically reply back to the list. -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaBUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://phxbug.org/ | http://metabug.org/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | Daemons in the Desert | Global BUG Federation
Sending mail from external firewall to external mail server (behind firewall)
We have the following network layout:
| Internet |
|
|
|(fxp4: 67.95.107.117)
| : 67.95.107.111)
| : et. al.)
-
| External Firewall |(vlan104: 192.168.13.81)
| (hammer) |--
- \
| (em0: 192.168.13.82)
-
|External Mail|
| (emma)|
-
hammer% ifconfig fxp4
fxp4: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
lladdr 00:07:e9:5d:62:f8
groups: egress
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
status: active
inet 67.95.107.117 netmask 0xffe0 broadcast 67.95.107.127
inet6 fe80::207:e9ff:fe5d:62f8%fxp4 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6
inet 67.95.107.111 netmask 0x broadcast 67.95.107.111
...
I have the following pf.conf rules applicable to this setup:
ext_if = fxp4
mail_ip = 67.95.107.111
emma_gw = 192.168.13.82
set skip on { lo0 }
rdr pass log on $ext_if inet proto tcp from any to $mail_ip \
port = smtp - $emma_gw
From the Internet, if I telnet 67.95.107.111 25, everything works.
But, on hammer:
hammer% telnet 67.95.107.111 25
Trying 67.95.107.111...
telnet: connect to address 67.95.107.111: Connection refused
Digging further:
hammer% netstat -rn | grep 67.95.107.111
67.95.107.111 127.0.0.1 UGHS0 317 33224 lo0
67.95.107.111/32 link#6 UC 00 - fxp4
So, I then did this:
hammer% telnet 67.95.107.111 25
Trying 67.95.107.111...
telnet: connect to address 67.95.107.111: Connection refused
While running the telnet, tcpdump reported:
hammer% tcpdump -n -i lo0
18:06:44.364940 67.95.107.111.2877 67.95.107.111.25: S 71726850:71726850(0)
win 16384 mss 33184,nop,nop,sackOK,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 1184513159
0 (DF) [tos 0x10]
18:06:44.364949 67.95.107.111.25 67.95.107.111.2877: R 0:0(0) ack 71726851
win 0 (DF)
Makes sense considering the netstat output. So, on hammer, how do I
get telnet 67.95.107.111 25 working?
According to pf.conf(5):
set skip on ifspec
List interfaces for which packets should not be filtered. Packets
passing in or out on such interfaces are passed as if pf was dis-
abled, i.e. pf does not process them in any way. This can be use-
ful on loopback and other virtual interfaces, when packet filtering
is not desired and can have unexpected effects. For example:
set skip on lo0
Is the standard solution to configure mail on hammer so delivery is
through 192.168.13.82, not 67.95.107.111?
--
albert chin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Remote syslog
My employer has given me some free colo space and I thought I would take advantage of it to do remote system logging. Those of you here who are doing it, could you comment on whether you are using Syslog-NG or something else, and whether you are doing it over SSH or IPSEC? I have looked at various articles around the net but would like some first hand comments. Steve
Re: Remote syslog
Steve B wrote: My employer has given me some free colo space and I thought I would take advantage of it to do remote system logging. Those of you here who are doing it, could you comment on whether you are using Syslog-NG or something else, and whether you are doing it over SSH or IPSEC? I have looked at various articles around the net but would like some first hand comments. Steve OpenBSD 4.2 -release, i386. I think this is what you need: eh # man syslogd -u Select the historical ``insecure'' mode, in which syslogd will accept input from the UDP port. Some software wants this, but you can be subjected to a variety of attacks over the network, including attackers remotely filling logs.
Re: rtorrent + OpenBSD = freeze
On 2/19/08, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's time folks start posting their dmesg. Since I can recall rtorrent causing similar symptoms on my OpenBSD firewall as well, I'll post mine too: OpenBSD 4.0 (GENERIC) #1107: Sat Sep 16 19:15:58 MDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: AMD Geode NX (AuthenticAMD 686-class, 256KB L2 cache) 1.40 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real mem = 637038592 (622108K) avail mem = 572289024 (558876K) using 4256 buffers containing 31952896 bytes (31204K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(1f) BIOS, date 10/18/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb490, SMBIOS rev. 2.2 @ 0xf (33 entries) apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xdef4 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfde60/144 (7 entries) pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 3 5 9 10 11 pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:02:0 (SiS 85C503 System rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x8000! cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 SiS 741 PCI rev 0x03 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 SiS 648FX AGP rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 SiS 6330 VGA rev 0x00: aperture at 0xd800, size 0x40 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) pcib0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 SiS 964 ISA rev 0x36 pciide0 at pci0 dev 2 function 5 SiS 5513 EIDE rev 0x01: 741: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: ST340015A wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 38166MB, 78165360 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 1 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: ATAPI-CD, ROM-DRIVE-52MAX, 52PP SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 auich0 at pci0 dev 2 function 7 SiS 7012 AC97 rev 0xa0: irq 5, SiS7012 AC97 ac97: codec id 0x414c4760 (Avance Logic ALC655 rev 0) audio0 at auich0 ohci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: irq 10, version 1.0, legacy support usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: SiS OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ohci1 at pci0 dev 3 function 1 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: irq 11, version 1.0, legacy support usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 uhub1: SiS OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ohci2 at pci0 dev 3 function 2 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: irq 9, version 1.0, legacy support usb2 at ohci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 uhub2: SiS OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 3 SiS 7002 USB rev 0x00: irq 3 usb3 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub3 at usb3 uhub3: SiS EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered sis0 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 SiS 900 10/100BaseTX rev 0x91: irq 11, address 00:14:2a:b7:c9:17 rlphy0 at sis0 phy 9: RTL8201L 10/100 PHY, rev. 1 rl0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 Accton MPX 5030/5038 rev 0x10: irq 11, address 00:e0:29:58:9b:eb rlphy1 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal PHY isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 it0 at isa0 port 0x290/8: IT87 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16 pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec biomask ff4d netmask ff4d ttymask ffcf pctr: user-level cycle counter enabled mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support uhidev0 at uhub0 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 uhidev0: Qtronix Generic USB K/B, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ukbd0 at uhidev0: 8 modifier keys, 6 key codes wskbd1 at ukbd0 mux 1 wskbd1: connecting to wsdisplay0 uhidev1 at uhub0 port 1 configuration 1 interface 1 uhidev1: Qtronix Generic USB K/B, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2, iclass 3/1 uhidev1: 3 report ids ums0 at uhidev1 reportid 1: 3 buttons and Z dir. wsmouse0 at ums0 mux 0 uhid0 at uhidev1 reportid 2: input=1, output=0, feature=0 uhid1 at uhidev1 reportid 3: input=4, output=0, feature=0 dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80 root on wd0a rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302
Re: Remote syslog
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:42:43PM -0700, Steve B wrote: | My employer has given me some free colo space and I thought I would take | advantage of it to do remote system logging. Those of you here who are doing | it, could you comment on whether you are using Syslog-NG or something else, | and whether you are doing it over SSH or IPSEC? I have looked at various | articles around the net but would like some first hand comments. I use syslog-ng and stunnel, almost trivial to setup. Scenario looks something like this: 1. message arrives in syslog and is logged to a local file 2. additionally, all messages are also sent to a remote server 3. remote server is actually stunnel in listening on the loopback 4. stunnel wraps up and forwards message to remote server 5. remote server stunnel receives packet and decrypts it 6. stunnel forwards decrypted packets (ie. message) to syslog-ng 7. syslog-ng on the server splits logs up according to host, date, etc. This setup has worked for me quite well. In my last job, I had around 25 different machines all logging to a single host via syslog-ng over stunnel. Load on the hosts, even the logging server, was negligable. The config itself is really easy. Work on it a while and see how you do. If you still are stuck, I might be convinced to provide an example. peace. ryanc
Re: Remote syslog
On Feb 19, 2008 8:42 PM, Steve B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My employer has given me some free colo space and I thought I would take advantage of it to do remote system logging. Those of you here who are doing it, could you comment on whether you are using Syslog-NG or something else, and whether you are doing it over SSH or IPSEC? I have looked at various articles around the net but would like some first hand comments. I set up an OpenBSD syslog server a few months ago. The OpenBSD logserver runs syslog-ng and Tenshi (to mail out alerts). Clients run FreeBSD and OpenBSD. No encryption currently (maybe change that in the future) because all of the machines that log are local. http://www.zampanosbits.com/wordpress/2007/07/08/implementing-a-central-logserver-with-openbsd/ Hope that helps, -Kian
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:47:54 +0530 Mayuresh Kathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 20, 2008 2:59 AM, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 19, 2008 4:50 AM, Mayuresh Kathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the reason I've been gathering good C developers, so that they could either; 1. take up complex projects like FireEngine/DTrace, 2. write replacements for as many GNU tools/utilities as possible, 3. be a landing stage for newer developers who get intimidated by the intensity of the core developers. good luck with that. be sure to let us know when it's all done, ok? thanks. If thats sarcasm its really not warranted. If its not sarcasm, then we'll be posting to the list about our progress. Also, Ted, I'm sorry if you felt offended by my ranting about you not completing kernel threads, but the loss of those developers really felt bad. ~Mayuresh Looks to me like your Tivo Box project might need to actually pay someone to write a threads library. Dhu
Re: Remote syslog
My employer has given me some free colo space and I thought I would take advantage of it to do remote system logging. Those of you here who are doing it, could you comment on whether you are using Syslog-NG or something else, and whether you are doing it over SSH or IPSEC? I have looked at various articles around the net but would like some first hand comments. Syslog-NG + Stunnel is a good option. Syslog-NG can operate in TCP mode and Stunnel can encrypt the TCP connections between the Loghost and the server. - Unni
