geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?
ANECDOTALLY, network driver geom times out under moderate steady load on a Sun Blade 150 within an hour of use. (as in network stops working, everything else is ok, and dmesg says "geom0: device timeout" about every 30 seconds; and reboot fixes it) Haven't seen the problem yet under Linux. Have seen it multiple times under OpenBSD 4.2. The machine was able to be up for days no problem busy with cd /usr/ports/x11/kde && sudo make, so generally all else is well. I will try 4.3 soon. I know this is poor problem report. It's about all I have. I can do my work equally well for now under any BSD or Linux so punting is ok for me. (I'm porting some stuff to all of OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD, Linux.) lspci from Linux: s00:00.0 Host bridge: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Psycho UPA-PCI Bus Module [pcipsy] 00:03.0 Non-VGA unclassified device: ALi Corporation M7101 Power Management Controller [PMU] 00:05.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 21152 PCI-to-PCI Bridge 00:07.0 ISA bridge: ALi Corporation M1533/M1535 PCI to ISA Bridge [Aladdin IV/V/V+] 00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: ALi Corporation M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device (rev 01) 00:0c.0 Bridge: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. RIO EBUS (rev 01) 00:0c.1 Ethernet controller: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. RIO 10/100 Ethernet [eri] (rev 01) 00:0c.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. RIO 1394 (rev 01) 00:0c.3 USB Controller: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. RIO USB (rev 01) 00:0d.0 IDE interface: ALi Corporation M5229 IDE (rev c3) 00:13.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27) 01:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 21152 PCI-to-PCI Bridge 02:01.0 Bridge: Xerox Corporation Unknown device 0017 02:04.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments PCILynx/PCILynx2 IEEE 1394 Link Layer Controller (rev 04) I assume Linux dmesg isn't interesting, and I can send OpenBSD dmesg if it matters. Fuller disclosure: The first install I saw this on I had partly done cd /usr/src && make, it failed eventually not knowing some size, I didn't know you had to build the kernel first. Anyway, I reinstalled, didn't rebuild any of OpenBSD that time, same behavior. Fuller disclosure: hardware bought used on eBay, can't really be vouched for. But Linux isn't having the problem. Sound at all familiar? Thanks, - Jay
Re: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?
I have no idea. OBP = "on board PROM"? I'll research this, but not right away. Anecdotally, Linux is running well, been up for a few days, with the same sort of scenarios I was attempting in OpenBSD, just a bunch of ssh/scp/cvs/gcc/ld. Is it possible OpenBSD is sensitive to having the latest OBP and Linux is not? Yes. Is it possible for OpenBSD to lose this sensitivity and work as well as Linux, in this regard? (Far be it for me to suggest that OpenBSD does not work better than Linux in general. I do appreciate the OpenBSD attitude, like the web page with reasons to build your own kernel, every single reason starts with the same discouragement. :) ) In this case, Linux == Ubuntu 7.10. Thanks, - Jay > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; misc@openbsd.org> Subject: RE: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 17:54:25 +0100> > > Are you running the latest version of OBP on the system?> _> > All new Live Search at Live.com> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001006ukm/direct/01/
SPARC32 == SPARC32on64?
I'm porting some oddball software, and trying to get "every" platform, if I have hardware, and getting more hardware (but not a lot). So, regarding SPARC, my quick understanding is that: OpenBSD has separate "pure" SPARC and SPARC64. On SPARC64, gcc accepts -m32 and -m64 (I think), defaults to -m64, usermode is "all" 64bit. Linux has just SPARC, runs on either hardware, usermode is mostly 32bit, gcc accepts -m32 and -m64, defaults to -m32. So now, I'm going to have roughly the following ports:SPARC32_LINUX (already working)SPARC64_LINUX SPARC32_OPENBSD SPARC64_OPENBSD (and more NetBSD, OpenBSD, etc.) In the Linux case, this is two sets of binaries that run on one OS.Folks might chose 32 perhaps for size or speed or interop withcode that hasn't been ported to 64, whatever. So my question then is...well, you see, I only have SPARC64 hardwareand am unlikely to install SPARC32, though maybe.More so, I'm unlikely to acquire SPARC32 hardware, unless SPARC64can run SPARC32? So my question is, do OpenBSD/sparc binaries run on OpenBSD/sparc64?Do binaries built on OpenBSD/sparc64 with -m32 run on OpenBSD/sparc?And are they the same? That is, if I wanted a complete matrix, is: SPARC32_OPENBSD SPARC64_OPENBSD complete, or is there reallySPARC32on32_OPENBSDSPARC32on64_OPENBSD SPARC64_OPENBSD or even more? (64 on 32?) http://www.openbsd.org/sparc.html http://www.openbsd.org/sparc64.html appear to list different machines, so that answers part of my question. sparc won't run on my sparc64 machine. If SPARC32 == SPARC32on64, I'll just do those two. If SPARC32 != SPARC32on64, I'll probably just do SPARC64. Thanks, - Jay
Re: SPARC32 == SPARC32on64?
Sorry, http://archive.openbsd.nu/?ml=openbsd-misc&a=2008-05&m=7350623 shows all the newlines removed... I'll see if I can edit below to fix - Jay From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: SPARC32 == SPARC32on64?Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 22:49:20 + I'm porting some oddball software, and trying to get "every" platform, if I have hardware, and getting more hardware (but not a lot). So, regarding SPARC, my quick understanding is that: OpenBSD has separate "pure" SPARC and SPARC64.On SPARC64, gcc accepts -m32 and -m64 (I think),defaults to -m64, usermode is "all" 64bit. Linux has just SPARC, runs on either hardware, usermode is mostly 32bit, gcc accepts -m32 and -m64, defaults to -m32. So now, I'm going to have roughly the following ports: SPARC32_LINUX (already working) SPARC64_LINUX SPARC32_OPENBSD SPARC64_OPENBSD (and more NetBSD, OpenBSD, etc.) In the Linux case, this is two sets of binaries that run on one OS. Folks might chose 32 perhaps for size or speed or interop with code that hasn't been ported to 64, whatever. So my question then is...well, you see, I only have SPARC64 hardware and am unlikely to install SPARC32, though maybe. More so, I'm unlikely to acquire SPARC32 hardware, unless SPARC64 can run SPARC32? So my question is, do OpenBSD/sparc binaries run on OpenBSD/sparc64? Do binaries built on OpenBSD/sparc64 with -m32 run on OpenBSD/sparc? And are they the same? That is, if I wanted a complete matrix, is: SPARC32_OPENBSD SPARC64_OPENBSD complete, or is there really SPARC32on32_OPENBSD SPARC32on64_OPENBSD SPARC64_OPENBSD or even more? (64 on 32?)http://www.openbsd.org/sparc.html http://www.openbsd.org/sparc64.htmlappear to list different machines, so that answers part of my question.sparc won't run on my sparc64 machine.If SPARC32 == SPARC32on64, I'll just do those two.If SPARC32 != SPARC32on64, I'll probably just do SPARC64. Thanks, - Jay
Re: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?
I gets a little more interesting..Linux/sparc was working fine for a few days.Now it seems, merely plugging this machine into the network makes thenetwork barely work -- very slow, connections dropped. Even ifI'm just sitting in various installers. Plugging in the wired on board ethernet. apt-get upgrade left Linux failing to boot.Solaris 9 install fails very early, something about newfs failing.I really tried a bunch of manual parameters, besides that itis run automatically.I think 10 is in the mail. (I have 10 onDVD but so far only a CD drive on the machine). I think it's something about the disklabel/partition left by either OpenBSD or Linux. I'm not sure how to get the OBP to the machine, since I can't install Solaris. Not sure the others will do. Let alone the possible need to open it up to enable writing. So, anyway, for now, I have wireless working and am back in OpenBSD.It's a little unfortunate because the Linux stuff was about a third done, now I'll try to complete OpenBSD before going back to Linux to finish. I was surprised how easy wireless was to get working.Granted I had to use the command line and read the man page, butgiven that, not bad. I'm going to try no X on the machine, just ssh. :)Of course, all my file editing will be on Windows and I'll scp files over.Or maybe try NFS or Samba.. Oh, and the OBP is definitely out of date. It's like version 4.6.5 from 2002, when they are up to like 4.10 or so fro 2005. Oh, also, a little complaint about OpenBSD installer. Solaris 9 installer pushes you to have swap first. So then with that in mind, i did that for OpenBSD. But OpenBSD defaults to installing to the first partition, and doesn't let you change that, so with 512meg, 10gig / after it, setup runs out of room installing to swap. Fixed by taking the default disklabel and using a for add and going more with its defaults, instead of what Solaris wanted. For once, I want more manual override..or for setup to notice..and maybe guess there isn't enough space... - Jay $ dmesgconsole is keyboard/displayCopyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.Copyright (c) 1995-2007 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http://www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 4.2 (GENERIC) #1427: Tue Aug 28 10:46:40 MDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERICreal mem = 536870912 (512MB)avail mem = 507289600 (483MB)mainbus0 at root: Sun Blade 150 (UltraSPARC-IIe 650MHz)cpu0 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIe (rev 3.3) @ 650 MHz, version 0 FPUcpu0: physical 16K instruction (32 b/l), 16K data (32 b/l), 512K external (64 b/l)psycho0 at mainbus0: pci108e,a001, impl 0, version 0, ign 7c0psycho0: bus range 0-2, PCI bus 0psycho0: dvma map c000-dfff, iotdb 962000-9e2000pci0 at psycho0ebus0 at pci0 dev 12 function 0 "Sun RIO EBus" rev 0x01"flashprom" at ebus0 addr 0-f not configuredclock1 at ebus0 addr 0-1fff: mk48t59ebus1 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "Acer Labs M1533 ISA" rev 0x00"dma" at ebus1 addr 0- ipl 42 not configuredpower0 at ebus1 addr 800-82f ipl 32com0 at ebus1 addr 3f8-3ff ipl 43: ns16550a, 16 byte fifocom1 at ebus1 addr 2e8-2ef ipl 43: ns16550a, 16 byte fifogem0 at pci0 dev 12 function 1 "Sun ERI Ether" rev 0x01: ivec 0x7c6, address 00:03:ba:2b:8f:49ukphy0 at gem0 phy 1: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface, rev. 1: OUI 0x0010dd, model 0x0002"Sun FireWire" rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 12 function 2 not configuredohci0 at pci0 dev 12 function 3 "Sun USB" rev 0x01: ivec 0x7e4, version 1.0, legacy support"Acer Labs M7101 Power" rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 not configuredautri0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 "Acer Labs M5451 Audio" rev 0x01: ivec 0x7e3ac97: codec id 0x41445348 (Analog Devices AD1881A)ac97: codec features headphone, Analog Devices Phat Stereoaudio0 at autri0midi0 at autri0: <4DWAVE MIDI UART>pciide0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 "Acer Labs M5229 UDMA IDE" rev 0xc3: DMA, channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCIpciide0: using ivec 0x7cc for native-PCI interruptwd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 38166MB, 78165360 sectorsatapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targetscd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SCSI0 5/cdrom removablewd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2cd0(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2pciide0: channel 1 disabled (no drives)ppb0 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 "Intel S21152BB PCI-PCI" rev 0x00pci1 at ppb0 bus 1ppb1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Intel S21152BB PCI-PCI" rev 0x00pci2 at ppb1 bus 2unknown vendor 0x10c5 product 0x0017 (class bridge subclass miscellaneous, rev 0x00) at pci2 dev 1 function 0 not configured"TI TSB12LV21 FireWire" rev 0x04 at pci2 dev 4 function 0 not configuredvgafb0 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 "ATI Rage XL" rev 0x27w
Re: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?
My OBP is definitely out of date, but I haven't yet been able to fix that. I'm not sure if it requires installing Solaris (which file systems can OB access?), which I've been unable to do, and I'm not sure if it requires cracking open the machine, which I am reluctant to do, but might do. Someone did tell me they see this in "current", however I finally noticed this promising note: http://www.openbsd.org/plus43.html Changes made between OpenBSD 4.2 and OpenBSD 4.3: >> Fixed watchdog timeouts on gem(4). Wireless is working surprisingly well, and my 4.3 CDs are en route. :) - Jay [ snip ..] > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; misc@openbsd.org> Subject: RE: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 17:54:25 +0100> > > Are you running the latest version of OBP on the system?> _
Re: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?
I don't think that is it, but I will try, thank you. I'm pretty sure the label that OpenBSD and/or Ubuntu left me with is a Solaris type. And dumb me, I didn't consider OBP as helping the install too. So the questions remain if I can install OBP without Solaris, and if I'll have to crack open the case. I'll see... The error from setup is like "newfs failed". If I run newfs manually, ALMOST no matter I try, it always seems to tell me my numbers are wrong. I've tried various -f and -i values. But I did find some that worked, but then I guess setup still wants to re-newfs it and gets it wrong. Setup doesn't show the whole message but I assume it is using the wrong numbers or something. Thanks, - Jay > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; misc@openbsd.org> Subject: RE: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?> Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 01:40:00 +0100> > > > > apt-get upgrade left Linux failing to boot.> > Solaris 9 install fails very early, something about newfs failing.> > I really tried a bunch of manual parameters, besides that it> > is run automatically.I think 10 is in the mail. (I have 10 on> > DVD but so far only a CD drive on the machine).> > if you mean the installer complains about disk failure then try this:> http://www.geeklan.co.uk/?p=61> > otherwise I'd highly recommend you upgrade the OBP!> > > Sevan / Venture37> _> Great deals on almost anything at eBay.co.uk. Search, bid, find and win on eBay today!> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001004ukm/direct/01/
Re: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?
Awesome, thanks! Normally I would have said "I have never netbooted; it seems too hard to setup" but those look like great instructions. And I was almost right in my paranoia about needing Solaris. I still wonder though -- if OpenBSD's UFS is the same format as Solaris's, or if OpenBSD can create a Solaris format of file system, then I think OpenBoot can read the files. And if not, not. I think. Mitigating factors: I got 4.3 in the mail that supposedly fixes this. The wireless networking is working fine. The OPB isn't even known to fix this, but hopefully. But yeah, running old OBP/BIOS not great. - Jay > Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:21:46 +0200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; misc@openbsd.org> Subject: Re: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?> > So, just as I say this, the page is at:> > http://www.SMTPS.net/netboot_flash_obp.html> > I did an Ultra 10 this way with no problems. I may have done> an Ultra2 as well.> > cheers> > bruce> > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 07:59:48AM +0100, Sevan / > Venture37 > wrote:> > > And dumb me, I didn't consider OBP as helping the install too.> > > So the questions remain if I can install OBP without Solaris, and if I'll> > have to crack open the case.> > > I'll see...> > > > From the OBP update page:> > "Note 1: This utility is *not* OS-dependent. The list of releases shown under> > the> > "Solaris Release" and "SunOS Release" sections may not be complete:> > The> > absence of a valid Solaris Release or SunOS Release from the lists> > above> > does not preclude the installation of this patch against the> > hardware."> > > > > > > > _> > Be a Hero and Win with Iron Man> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001009ukm/direct/01/> >
Re: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?
well, of course OB can read the file system.It loads the kernel after all.The instructions are encouraging: OB> boot disk /flash-update Cool, like, the flash-update is a kernel?Well, not that, but a program runnable as if it is a kernel? But it looks like "the OS", er, the OS installer, is between OB and the kernel;Specifically there are some "boot blocks" installed by the OS, and the OpenBSD ones don't recognize the file format of the flash-update. Darn. Maybe there is a way? - Jay From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 20:17:26 + Awesome, thanks!Normally I would have said "I have never netbooted; it seems too hard to setup" but those look like great instructions.And I was almost right in my paranoia about needing Solaris.I still wonder though -- if OpenBSD's UFS is the same format as Solaris's, or if OpenBSD can create a Solaris format of file system, then I think OpenBoot can read the files. And if not, not. I think.Mitigating factors: I got 4.3 in the mail that supposedly fixes this. The wireless networking is working fine. The OPB isn't even known to fix this, but hopefully. But yeah, running old OBP/BIOS not great. - Jay > Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:21:46 +0200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; misc@openbsd.org> Subject: Re: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?> > So, just as I say this, the page is at:> > http://www.SMTPS.net/netboot_flash_obp.html> > I did an Ultra 10 this way with no problems. I may have done> an Ultra2 as well.> > cheers> > bruce> > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 07:59:48AM +0100, Sevan / > Venture37 > wrote:> > > And dumb me, I didn't consider OBP as helping the install too.> > > So the questions remain if I can install OBP without Solaris, and if I'll> > have to crack open the case.> > > I'll see...> > > > From the OBP update page:> > "Note 1: This utility is *not* OS-dependent. The list of releases shown under> > the> > "Solaris Release" and "SunOS Release" sections may not be complete:> > The> > absence of a valid Solaris Release or SunOS Release from the lists> > above> > does not preclude the installation of this patch against the> > hardware."> > > > > > > > _> > Be a Hero and Win with Iron Man> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001009ukm/direct/01/> >
Re: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?
Agreed. "something" is "boot blocks" and they are "installed" by "the OS". The flash-update is a 32bit ELF file and I imagine the OpenBSD/sparc64 boot blocks only like 64bit ELF. (Per my other unrelated question -- I was wrong, OpenBSD/sparc64 is pure 64 bit, gcc -m32 doesn't "work" (from a certain point of view, yes I realize it does exactly what it is meant to do, and it is arguably superior this way, rather than open a can of worms as to just what is "the architecture" of "the OS", some hard to pin down hybrid, or simply only SPARC64.) It is probably possible and not difficult to temporarily install the Solaris boot blocks (such as from the environment booting the Solaris install CD gives you), boot the flash-update, and then put back the OpenBSD boot blocks. I haven't really tried yet. It might even be possible, like, to say boot cdrom /blahblah/ or boot floppy /blahblahblah where /blahblahblah is, you know, normally just like bsd or /update-flash, the kernel or the program to run, relative to the device, but maybe you can use a "device path" there at the start and have the boot blocks on one device read the "kernel" (or rather update-flash) from another device. The flash-update is also 1.4something meg in size, which I thought therefore might fit on a floppy and be bootable completely from there, but I didn't have luck with that. The floppy drive wasn't working from OpenBSD and the floppy I produced on NT doesn't work. The size is maybe just a coincidence, and heck maybe I misread the number of digits, it was 14. I was too lazy to determine the actual value of 1.44meg -- LAZY of me, so easy to have done... I'll experiment later. I blew away my Linux/macppc and started OpenBSD/macppc install so I can try the netboot (which is something I want to try anyway). I know those directions aren't specific to macppc, or even OpenBSD, but I have no other OpenBSD machines currently, the Mac was a good candidate, and I might as well not risk Linux or MacOSX varying in an area I'm not confident in. btw, those instructions were good, but the man page looks quite good as well, maybe identical. Thanks again, I'll report back later (in case anyone cares..hey the mailing list is "misc", not "dev-important".. :) ) - Jay > Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 09:42:20 +0200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; misc@openbsd.org> Subject: Re: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?> > Hi,> > I was unable to get the obp upgrade to boot when put on a openbsd disk. I guess,> but don't know for sure, that the sequence is:> > - obp starts> - obp reads "something"> - something starts> - something reads the rest of the command line and reads the kernel.> > This "something" doesn't read the obp upgrade.> > If you compare the upgrade OBP with netboot to the diskless man page, the thing> loaded across the network via tftp when openbsd boots is ofwboot.net. The thing> loaded with tftp is the actuall upgrade program of obp in that case.> > > cheers> > bruce> > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 09:03:40PM +, Jay wrote:> > well, of course OB can read the file system.It loads the kernel after all.The> > instructions are encouraging:> > OB> boot disk /flash-update> > Cool, like, the flash-update is a kernel?Well, not that, but a program> > runnable as if it is a kernel?> > But it looks like "the OS", er, the OS installer, is between OB and the> > kernel;Specifically there are some "boot blocks" installed by the OS, and the> > OpenBSD ones don't recognize the file format of the flash-update.> > Darn.> > Maybe there is a way?> > - Jay> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]:> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?Date:> > Fri, 16 May 2008 20:17:26 +> > > > > > Awesome, thanks!Normally I would have said "I have never netbooted; it seems> > too hard to setup" but those look like great instructions.And I was almost> > right in my paranoia about needing Solaris.I still wonder though -- if> > OpenBSD's UFS is the same format as Solaris's, or if OpenBSD can create a> > Solaris format of file system, then I think OpenBoot can read the files. And> > if not, not. I think.Mitigating factors: I got 4.3 in the mail that> > supposedly fixes this. The wireless networking is working fine. The OPB> > isn't even known to fix this, but hopefully. But yeah, running old OBP/BIOS> > not great. - Jay> > > > > Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:21:46 +0200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTE
Re: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?
Ugh, this is not so easy. First of all, I am able to write the Solaris and OpenBSD bootblocks.I could not find any documentation on saving/restoring them, butI could find how to set them to a specified set. It's not difficult. You boot the Solaris CD and like/blah/installboot /blah/`uname -i`/blah/bootblk blah And when you are done, to get OpenBSD back, boot the openBSD CD and like: mount /dev/wd0 /mnt /mnt/mdec/blah/installboot /mnt/mdec/bootblk /dev/rwd0 Actually I got an error so out of paranoia I did more like: mount /dev/wd0 /mnt cp /mnt/mdec/blah/* /tmp umount /mnt /tmp/installboot /tmp/bootblk /dev/rwd0 It took me a little while to find the OpenBSD installboot, buried in "mdec" instead of any of /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /bin, /sbin..even thought to check /stand. (damn there are too many of these directories! I know people like to fragment up their hard drives into multiple partitions in order to make it harder to decide how large to make the partitions, and so then there is /bin and /usr/bin, but must we have sbin too?, and on a single partition system, can't they all just be in /bin and /usr/bin a symlink to /bin, and on a multi partition system, put them where they are "needed" and then fill the others with symlinks? I realize that's wasteful of storage and $path search...I know these are not great suggestions, but I do often wish it was all just in /bin.) find is not present in the shell when you boot the OpenBSD CD, and the one in /mnt/blah crashes. All that, and the Solaris boot blocks won't boot the flash updater either. They say something like "file just loaded does not appear to be an executable" or somesuch. This is surprising to me. I really thought this would work. Ok, so let's try the net boot approach. Well, there's a step "edit /etc/hosts in the usual way". The usual way? I always use dhcp. The usual way is not at all. So I tried my usual way.. At first I forgot to switch the Sun back from wireless to wired. After some timeout, it sort of proceeded, to the next level of recieving nothing. Ok, switch it to wired. Remember the MAC address changes (since I had gotten it from my router/dhcpd instead of .enet-addr, it was that of the wireless). It is timing out indefinitely. At least that gives me a chance to fix the tftp server. Over on the tftp server I get: warning: cannot find jay-sun1 on 192.168.2.0, or maybe the other way around. I don't know where this .0 came from. I relented then and edited /etc/hosts. First I used a 192.168 range. But then I wonder, hm, maybe that conflicts with the dhcp on the router? Maybe I should use a 10.* or such number. So I tried that. I still get the warning about 192.168.2.0, and the Sun is still just sitting timing out. I don't know where this address is coming from. Maybe it is a reference to a "group" or "mask" of addresses -- 192.168.2.*? I have run pkill -1 inetd after every edit. So maybe I should reboot. Well, it's a newly installed slow machine, I had tar xfz ports,src,xenocara.tgz running. Kill those before rebooting. mv away /usr/src, /usr/ports to /usr/delete so I will delete them after the reboot. This triggers the not as dead as I meant tar to spew warning after warning after warning unable to set file times, to a slow console (MacPPC G3 iBook). There seems to be no way for me to stop it. My router shows no IP address -- I'd ssh in. Can't control-c or fg/control-c, it's "detatched", stupid me. It's still going. I'll leave it go and then try again later. ok, i finally finished. Ugh. Flashing the BIOS is a big pain. On Windows, you just run the app, it runs within Windows, and then it reboots. ..Jay From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 08:44:53 + Agreed. "something" is "boot blocks" and they are "installed" by "the OS".The flash-update is a 32bit ELF file and I imagine the OpenBSD/sparc64 boot blocks only like 64bit ELF. (Per my other unrelated question -- I was wrong, OpenBSD/sparc64 is pure 64 bit, gcc -m32 doesn't "work" (from a certain point of view, yes I realize it does exactly what it is meant to do, and it is arguably superior this way, rather than open a can of worms as to just what is "the architecture" of "the OS", some hard to pin down hybrid, or simply only SPARC64.) It is probably possible and not difficult to temporarily install the Solaris boot blocks (such as from the environment booting the Solaris install CD gives you), boot the flash-update, and then put back the OpenBSD boot blocks. I haven't really tried yet. It might even be possible, like, to say boot cdrom
Re: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?
Ok, much progress. I got to the point where it boots the flash update and I believe I have to fix the jumper now. Here are some tricks.If you read the footnote of the instructions, you realize that RARPD and DHCP are applesand apples. You must pick just one. And it isn't up to you. It is how the Sun boots. So, extreme measure: Take both machines off the main network. No more dhcp, temporarily. Run one cable between them. No more wireless, temporarily. edit /etc/hostname.if (hostname.gem0 for me) on the rarpd/tftpd server to give it a static address I used 10.0.0.1 -- right from the start of "man hostname.if" edit /etc/hosts as instructed, I usd 10.0.0.2. I'm not sure how you "really" set up network booting. This can't be it.I know more modern systems to have dhcp in the boot environment. That should help completely. This got me to the point of rarpd sending a reply and then the Sun waiting and telling meto double check the tftpd server. Now, I varied a few things flailing around, but I think the main one wasthat the files in /tftpboot should be named in all caps. I also killed and restarted inetd, not just -1 (sighup), but that's probably not needed. I also ran inetd -d and it reported starting tftpd and then shortly after reaping it.If I ran tftpd under gdb, it exited with 1 after a short run.I was considering building it from source and debugging, but I haven't built OpenBSD yet.I THINK it was the CAPS in the file names, but not sure. AHA the instructions to use a capital X. I mistyped that. Now to open the machine and deal with the jumper... - Jay
Re: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?
Ok! It is done. I think there might be a reasonable "bug" or "feature request" here to enable the OpenBSD/sparc64 bootblk to be able to boot the flash updates, like if it is "just" a matter of supporting ELF32 or something. But I don't know. Solaris still won't install. It actually got worse, before the OBP update. Solaris setup had brought up X, now it fails to. The machine came with Solaris, but when it booted, and went graphical, the LCD couldn't keep up.. Oh well. - Jay From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: geom network driver times out on sparc 4.2?Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 18:56:38 + Ok, much progress.I got to the point where it boots the flash update and I believe I have to fix the jumper now.
port/package messages about manual optional configuration?
The "important" messages from installing packages/ports. There is something I have noticed in various package/port systems, including OpenBSD, Debian, and more. Here is an example: $ sudo pkg_add python--- python-2.5.2 ---If you want to use this package as your default system python, as rootcreate symbolic links like so (overwriting any previous default): ln -sf /usr/local/bin/python2.5 /usr/local/bin/python ln -sf /usr/local/bin/pydoc2.5 /usr/local/bin/pydoc Now, in this case, I have installed just one package, interactively, so the point is mostly moot.But for the scenario of installing something with dependencies, something that takes a while,where I walk away and come back much later, these "important" messages, these messages aboutoptional manual configuration, should be collected somewhere for my perusal. Maybe they already are? Thanks, - Jay
possible setup "bug" -- chose of default "a" partition can be wrong like if it is swap
If I have my "a" slice/partition is a "small" swap partition and my "c" slice is a "large" BSD partition, setup should install to "c". Or at least maybe prompt. Usually I want fewer prompts/questions, but.. I ran into this problem because Solaris setup encourages the swap partition/slice to be first. Luckily "a" filled up during setup and not later, so damage/pain was minimized. I realize the defaults in the install and the directions have you create the BSD slice/partition as "a" so if you ignore Solaris you tend to get it right. Any chance ever of a "swap file" instead of a "swap partition/slice"? I'm sure this isn't a good "bug report", and debatable, so misc... - Jay
Re: possible setup "bug" -- chose of default "a" partition can be wrong like if it is swap
Ben, I did mix up which letter is which. I didn't mean to violate which one is the entire drive. I was going from memory. That wasn't the point. Yes, the first time I installed, I took the defaults, and it worked. Then I tried to install Solaris. Then with that in recent memory, I tried to be like it. I know multiple partitions/slices/labels are encouraged, but the docs also say one is ok, and I really don't like to "fragment" stuff like this. I don't want to have to decide how much space I need for everything, and then have it be very difficult to change later. Granted, lately I'm wanting to share something, like maybe /home, across multiple operating systems. I didn't google for swap file, admitted. I don't really care if the swap partition is at the start, I was just following what Solaris had encouraged. As for it being "tiny", well, yeah, with 512meg, 1gig, and more physical memory, I don't see why swap should be much, certainly more than 512meg. - Jay > CC: misc@openbsd.org> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: possible setup "bug" -- chose of default "a" partition can be wrong like if it is swap> Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 10:26:03 -0700> > > On May 18, 2008, at 8:54 AM, Jay wrote:> > you are making a lot of bad assumptions.> > > If I have my "a" slice/partition is a "small" swap partition and my > > "c" slice> > is a "large" BSD partition, setup should install to "c".> > you should not use c for anything. it's the whole disk.> > >> > Or at least maybe prompt. Usually I want fewer prompts/questions, > > but..> >> > I ran into this problem because Solaris setup encourages the swap> > partition/slice to be first.> > solaris does this because it expands the installer into the swap > partition and runs it from there.> > >> > Luckily "a" filled up during setup and not later, so damage/pain was> > minimized.> > you're assuming that openbsd partitions need to be on the disk in > alphabetical order. this is false> >> > I realize the defaults in the install and the directions have you > > create the> > BSD slice/partition as "a" so if you ignore Solaris you tend to get > > it right.> > yes. if you don't assume that openbsd will work like and > actually read the docs you tend to be better off> > > Any chance ever of a "swap file" instead of a "swap partition/slice"?> > yes. i leave the googling up to you.> > > I'm sure this isn't a good "bug report", and debatable, so misc...> > I"m _guessing_ that what you're trying to achieve ( unadvisedly ) is > to have a tiny swap partition at the beginning of the disk and a > single partition for the OS. I'm not going to bother preaching at you > about why this is bad, if you were interested in why you'd have > already taken the time to find out.> > you can do this by creating the b (swap) partition first during the > install and then creating the a partition _physically_after_it_ on the > disk.> > Luckily, you don't have to do it this way. you can simply follow the > instructions in the INSTALL. file and end up with a sane > partitioning scheme.> >> > - Jay> >> > Ben
Re: port/package messages about manual optional configuration?
That helps, thanks. How about though for the scenario where I just installed something, and all its dependencies, without knowing what they are? Like: cd /usr/ports/x11/kde sudo make install Seems like maybe the install messages should be logged somewhere specific? maybe sudo make install | tee lookthroughthislater.txt I guess I should use tee or > more. Ah, this is close: cd /var/db/pkg pkg_info -M * You know, at least it tells me for everything installed on my machine, not necessarily sorted by time or anything. - Jay > Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 18:22:17 +0200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: misc@openbsd.org> Subject: Re: port/package messages about manual optional configuration?> > Hi!> > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 03:49:24PM +, Jay wrote:> >The "important" messages from installing packages/ports.> >There is something I have noticed in various package/port systems, including> >OpenBSD, Debian, and more.> >Here is an example:> >$ sudo pkg_add python--- python-2.5.2 ---If you want to use> >this package as your default system python, as rootcreate symbolic links like> >so (overwriting any previous default): ln -sf /usr/local/bin/python2.5> >/usr/local/bin/python ln -sf /usr/local/bin/pydoc2.5 /usr/local/bin/pydoc> > >Now, in this case, I have installed just one package, interactively, so the> >point is mostly moot.But for the scenario of installing something with> >dependencies, something that takes a while,where I walk away and come back> >much later, these "important" messages, these messages aboutoptional manual> >configuration, should be collected somewhere for my perusal.> >Maybe they already are?> > pkg_info -M package_name> pkg_info -M -a> man 1 pkg_info> > >Thanks, - Jay> > Hope that helps.> > Kind regards,> > Hannah.
Re: port/package messages about manual optional configuration?
I don't know why the quoting that way. And my mail program (hotmail/IE7) can't set line lengths. Up to me to just eyeball it and hit return every so often, and then, often returns get removed somewhere anyway, like when I put them in for other formatting reasons. It does stink. (I even pay for the premium service to remove the annoying signature ads..) - Jay > Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 23:53:14 +0200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: misc@openbsd.org> Subject: Re: port/package messages about manual optional configuration?> > Hi!> > [Your quoting is severly messed up, please fix it; your line lengths too]>
make a bootable iso
i found your link and thought you might be able to help me ive been trying to make a bootable iso that if i load it to a flash drive using yumi or xboot or even burn to a disk it will load so far ive tried magic iso power iso ultra iso win iso img burn free iso creator win32 disk imager easy bcd burn aware bootcd from hirens boot cd these are the files im using autoexec.bat bootable 1.44 image command.com txt file and a exe file ive tried all kinds of different ways with every program to put this together and make the boot image so far and i get missing mbr ntldr or a blank screen and all i want to do is make it load when i hit the f12 key i can select the cd rom and it will load to the license agreement when the autoexec launches or if i put it on a flash drive using yumi or xboot can you help with this what would i need to put this together so it will boot to the eae file so i can run the program any links videos or names of software to try or step by step how to would be great
Re: Will different CPU and RAM matter?
On 5/5/05, Ian Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 5 May 2005, Niall O'Higgins wrote: > > > On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 12:10:58PM -0700, Gary Clemans-Gibbon wrote: > > > The only thing is that I run 2 HDDs in RAID1 mirror with RAIDFRAME and > > > so my kernel is generic + pseudo-device raid (if I remember correctly - > > > it was a while ago I last did this and I've lost my notes). > > > > For such a setup I recommend ditching RAIDFrame for ccd(4), which is > > in GENERIC and as such actively maintained. > > > > The way I see it: cheap, personal mirroring/striping setups, use ccd(4). > > Real RAID, use ami(4) or maybe one of those external box things. > > Except that Gary is using a mirror and ccd(4) claims to provide either > concatenated or interleaved disks, not mirroring: > > "A ccd may be either serially concatenated or interleaved." > > and as such provides no tolerance for disk failures: > > "WARNINGS > If just one (or more) of the disks in a ccd fails, the entire file > system will be lost." > > I use RAIDframe and haven't used ccd, so I'm just going by what the man > page says... > > > -- Ian > > You must be looking on your 3.6 or earlier box. Take a look at the revised man page on line (and presumably 3.7): A ccd may be either serially concatenated, interleaved, or mirrored. To serially concatenate partitions, specify an interleave factor of 0. Mir- roring configurations require an even number of components. It still won't provide all of the configurations of RAID(4), but it'll do simple mirroring. --jay
Re: As the OpenBSD 3.7 was released, I've got some doubts about the OpenBSD releases!
On 5/20/05, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know, maybe it's a matter of uses and costumes but... > > I wonder why people would need printed manuals to actually read them. > > Yes, I know the convenience of having them printed but... not reading > them in the first (or second) step because it's not on paper? :-X > > You can't efficiently search a text or pattern inside document on paper ... And you can't use the online docs when the damn thing won't boot. In my mind there are two kinds of docs, or at least two scenerios where docs are important: 1) when you're reading the docs to learn how to do something new or remember how to do something you've forgotten, and 2) when you're trying to fix something that's gone horribly wrong, usually as a result of #1. Online docs are fine for #1, but paper certainly has its place when staring down #2. Personally, the first thing I do when messing around with something new and potentially destructive is print up a hard copy of the docs. As for the install procedure, I think it's pretty straight forward where its indented audience is concerned. The upgrade procedure can be a little less friendly, but by the time you get around to upgrading, you've learned to RTFM. --j
Re: As the OpenBSD 3.7 was released, I've got some doubts about the OpenBSD releases! releases.
On 5/20/05, Vladislav Belogrudov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > .. or from solaris, where s8 MUST run under s10 #:) > They put millions into making their systems compatible > (RESPECT) > Actually, there's some pretty prominent misinformation out there. _Abolute OpenBSD_ (No Strarch) claims that one of obsd's selling points is that unlike linux, obsd compiled binaries are compatible between system versions, and that effort is put into the linker, etc., to keep it that way. I'm not sure when that changed if it was ever true to begin with, but the book's not that old (3.4?), so I'm sure people believe it. --j
Re: "Desktop" chrooted
On 5/26/05, Stephan Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks a lot for your reply. -- Are you saying there is too much > overhead or the end result is not worth any overhead?? > > Why bother chrooting apache, for example, and not leaving it with your > recommended systrace? > > My question is motivated by exploits through Internet access; it seems > to me server vulnerabilities are comparable to user's visiting unsafe > websites / opening unsafe emails, etc. Plus, more and more user > activity involves Internet access. I can speak for Mike, but I'd say "both". In order to give your users a useable system, you'd have to compy almost everything into the jail, which would mean maintaining two version of everything. And at the end of the day, what have you gained? Look at it this way: assuming you have any reasonable hardware policy, any system that a user logs on to with a graphical interface exists primarily to run user applications--Joe L'User shouldn't be running a KDE session on any of your file, internet, mail, database, etc. servers. So anything that would make a workstation/X server usable would need to be chrooted. If it wouldn't need to be chrooted so the users have access, why have it on that machine at all? Once you realize that, you realize that, given the purpose of workstations and X servers, if anything happens inside the jail, it's just as bad as if it had happened outside the jail: you'll just as big a mess on your hands, because *everything important*--executables, spool files, password files, log files, all of it--will have to be in the jail. and if it goes, you will have lost the system for all practical purposes just as effectively as if the jail weren't in place. chrooting is a technique to protect leaky programs from remote attacks; OpenBSD provides other tools--file permissions, file system flags, etc.--to protect against locl exploits. Use the appropriate tools for the job. The kinds of attacks you're talking about--bad emails, trojan web pages, etc. may seem like remote attacks, but from an OS standpoint, they're really not: they originate someplace else, but they trick users into doing something locally, and they need to be treated as such. -- jay daggerquill [at] gmail [dot] com http://www.engatiki.org
ping No buffer space available - Solved (?)
One of my servers started having problems after it had been stable for about 10 months. Communications in/out of the box would just stop or the machine would crash. We were able to log in at the console. A ping command returned the error message "no buffer space available." I searched the list archives and found a few references to this error message along with some suggestions, but nothing that ever said what fixed the problem. We may have fixed this problem on our box so here is what we did in the hopes that it may help someone else if they run into this problem. Our box was running OpenBSD 3.6 with most of the patches installed. After a crash one day and communications getting stuck the next (/etc/netstart got the network back running again, btw), I installed all patches that were TCP related or could have been somehow related to the problem. I rebuilt the kernel (generic) and rebooted. A few days later the machine hung up again. There was an on-board NIC and a PCI NIC installed in the box and they were sharind an interrupt which one of the postings I read said was a bad idea. Disabled the on-board sound and on-board NIC in the BIOS so that there were no shared interrupts. The next day the machine hung up again and /etc/netstart got the network working again. After some discussion we removed the PCI NIC card and enabled the on-board NIC card and changed hostname.xxx to match the on-board nic card. That was on July 5, 2005 and the system has been stable for the last ten days. We are hopeful that the problem was a bad NIC card. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: tar(1) problem with long file names.
On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 02:07:16PM -0500, eric wrote: > It seems that tar(1) is only able to archive filenames of 100 characters or > less. However, ufs can handle (I've been testing using touch(1)) filenames > up to 255 characters. I tried to modify the following in src/bin/pax/tar.h > > #define TNMSZ 100 /* size of name field */ > > to > > #define TNMSZ 255 /* size of name field */ > > But it didn't seem to work. > > Has anyone bumped into this and made a more reliable fix? > > The issue is that with NFS mounts of directories such as iTunes music > directories, there's often longer file names than 100 characters. So doing > backups or transporting the files is slightly difficult. GNU tar uses a variety of ugly hacks to get around the 100 (original tar) or 255 (ustar) character limit in file and path names. Unfortunatly, only gnu tar can correctly extract such archives. If you're willing to live with that restriction, it's in ports. Have fun. :-) -- JF
Re: [OT] beefy steel cases
If anyone is interested, I have five of the cases at the following website for sale. http://www.kevla.org/cases Jay > I have one of these, http://calpc.com/catalog/mid_tower.html, and its quite > beefy.
Re: Forwarding roots mail to another account , seperate email server
Henning, You are right, it is ~/.forward Any suggestions? > * Jay Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-02-11 17:58]: >> Regardless, I can't seem to get mail forwarding working. The two main >> openbsd >> books say all I need to do is create a .forwarding file and give the name of >> the email address to forward to, but for two months not one email was >> forwarded. > > it is ~/.forward - not .forwarding > > > -- > Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > BS Web Services, http://bsws.de > Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services > Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg & Amsterdam
Re: Forwarding roots mail to another account , seperate email server
Chris, I tried the aliases approach, but didn't get any output from mail on my router for two months, Then one day, about 200 messages came spooling out. Now I get messages whenever. /etc/mail/aliases root: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do receive emails from the machine, but they are not being delivered properly. Here is what I get when I receive one: Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details From: "Mail Delivery Subsystem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, February 11, 2008 11:31 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message contents: The original message was received at Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:30:45 -0500 (EST) from localhost.cosmoweb.net [127.0.0.1] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 553 5.1.8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist) (expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to earth.cosmoweb.net.: >>> MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=1612 <<< 553 5.1.8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist 501 5.6.0 Data format error I think part of the problem is that piper.kevla.org is my router, but I don't have an A or MX record pointing to that name, and I'm not running Bind/DNS services on the router. Just using as gateway for internet access, and my ISPs DNS servers. My A and MX records point to www.kevla.org. These are being returned from my ISP, so I also think that when they show back up for delivery, they are getting hung because [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist as a valid account on my email server. But, why aren't they being sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your advice greatly appreciated. Jay > On Feb 11, 2008 8:55 AM, Jay Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Regardless, I can't seem to get mail forwarding working. The two main >> openbsd >> books say all I need to do is create a .forwarding file and give the name of >> the email address to forward to, but for two months not one email was >> forwarded. > > You have a choice > echo [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ~root/.forward > > or add an entry to /etc/mail/aliases: > root: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > and then run "newaliases" > > CK > > > -- > GDB has a 'break' feature; why doesn't it have 'fix' too?
Forwarding roots mail to another account , seperate email server
I am using openbsd 4.0. I have a standard non-X install, setup as a router/firewall NATing several boxes. I am port forwarding 25 and 80 to a single box behind the firewall. So, I do not have sendmail per se running on the openbsd box, but local mail is working. Not sure I have the proper terminiology here. Regardless, I can't seem to get mail forwarding working. The two main openbsd books say all I need to do is create a .forwarding file and give the name of the email address to forward to, but for two months not one email was forwarded. So, at a minimum, what do I need to do in order to get the email delivered from root, to another account on my email server sitting behind the firewall? Jay
Re: [OT] beefy steel cases
>> Yes, I too at one time bought a huge case. Has 10 5.25 bays. Only problem >> is >> that you can't use all of them due to cable length limitations. > > Multiple controllers? Onboard IDE controller (pri and sec interface) and a Adaptec 2940 SCSI card. > >>> I have one of these, http://calpc.com/catalog/mid_tower.html, and its quite >>> beefy. > > Their web site lists that it can take *one* hot-swap power supply. Not > quite sure of the point of that... New marketing term... you haven't heard of it before, they just invented it...
Re: [OT] beefy steel cases
Yes, I too at one time bought a huge case. Has 10 5.25 bays. Only problem is that you can't use all of them due to cable length limitations. With SCSI2, could use up to 4 prior to exceeding 36 inch cable limit. Then could use two more for IDE. But the other 4, never could use. J > I have one of these, http://calpc.com/catalog/mid_tower.html, and its quite > beefy.
Re: [OT] beefy steel cases
Back then, adding another channel meant buying another $275 SCSI card. Wasn't on my radar. Jay > Jay Hart wrote: >>>> Yes, I too at one time bought a huge case. Has 10 5.25 bays. Only problem >>>> is >>>> that you can't use all of them due to cable length limitations. >>> Multiple controllers? >> >> Onboard IDE controller (pri and sec interface) and a Adaptec 2940 SCSI card. > > No, I meant you could use more controllers to add more drives. Not > enough cable to do more than 4 SCSI drives? Add another channel.
Re: Updates for old releases
One question I have is if 4.0 is stilled being patched? I notice that there are several patches out in 4.2 or 4.1, for example: 005: RELIABILITY FIX: January 11, 2008 All architectures A missing NULL pointer check can lead to a kernel panic. A source code patch exists which remedies this problem But either these don't apply to 4.0, or 4.0 is not having patches created anymore. That is the official policy for older releases with regards to patches? Thanks, Jay > 2008/2/22, Antonio Lobato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Hi all! >> >> I read http://openbsd.org/security.html (and stable.html), but could >> not make >> sure about my question. >> >> If today I download old versions (say /pub/OpenBSD/4.0/i386/cd40.iso) of >> openbsd, does it already includes the fixes listed in > > release != stable; you'll have to apply the patches (or get the/a newer > release)
Re: Updates for old releases
> Jay Hart schrieb: >> One question I have is if 4.0 is stilled being patched? I notice that there >> are several patches out in 4.2 or 4.1, for example: >> >> 005: RELIABILITY FIX: January 11, 2008 All architectures >> A missing NULL pointer check can lead to a kernel panic. >> A source code patch exists which remedies this problem >> >> But either these don't apply to 4.0, or 4.0 is not having patches created >> anymore. > > Because 4.0 is no longer maintained after 4.2 was released. Thanks, that means I will be upgrading to 4.2 stable (at least) this weekend. Jay > >> That is the official policy for older releases with regards to patches? > > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Flavors > > Kind regards, >Markus
libc.so.39.3
On base OpenBSD 4.2. What package should I install to get the above library? Thanks, Jay
Re: libc.so.39.3
thanks for the hands-up. For right now I've made the sym link while I get the box production ready. I intend to install latest version of the app (APCUPSD) on the box, once I get all the patches applied, and my environment settled. Speaking of patches, I see that there is some problem trying to apply patch 004 (the pf patch) under 4.2. I've updated the index line (changed it from sys to src, but I still can't apply the patch. What other trick do i need to do to get this patch applied? TIA, Jay > > On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 12:30 -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> No, do not make a symbolic link. > > Right, for the record and mail archives, a symlink would only be a temp > solution and is not guaranteed (likely even) to solve the problem. > > Obviously, Jay is not working on in a production environment, otherwise > he would have staged his upgrade process in a lab environment >:} > > Let us know if you have any ports recompile problems, but read the > entire FAQ, and search the list archives, before posting! > > ~BAS
004_pf.patch path not correct for 4.2
I see that there is some problem trying to apply patch 004 (the pf patch) under 4.2. Looks like there was some discussion late in Mov 07 about fixing the patch to correct for wrong path / missing directory tree in the patch. I've updated the index line (changed it from sys to src, but I still can't apply the patch. What other trick do i need to do to get this patch applied? TIA, Jay
Re: 004_pf.patch path not correct for 4.2
> On 24/02/2008, at 10:44 AM, Jay Hart wrote: > >> I see that there is some problem trying to apply patch 004 (the pf >> patch) >> under 4.2. Looks like there was some discussion late in Mov 07 >> about fixing >> the patch to correct for wrong path / missing directory tree in the >> patch. >> >> I've updated the index line (changed it from sys to src, but I >> still can't >> apply the patch. >> >> What other trick do i need to do to get this patch applied? >> >> TIA, >> >> Jay > > Source from CD or FTP? > > If FTP, did you get both files? > I got it from the 4.2 release errata & patch list link on the OpenBSD site, and all I downloaded was 004_pf.patch. Looking in the ftp patches directory, I don't see any file other then this one. Jay
Re: 004_pf.patch path not correct for 4.2
> On 24/02/2008, at 11:15 AM, Jay Hart wrote: > >>> >>> On 24/02/2008, at 10:44 AM, Jay Hart wrote: >>> >>>> I see that there is some problem trying to apply patch 004 (the pf >>>> patch) >>>> under 4.2. Looks like there was some discussion late in Mov 07 >>>> about fixing >>>> the patch to correct for wrong path / missing directory tree in the >>>> patch. >>>> >>>> I've updated the index line (changed it from sys to src, but I >>>> still can't >>>> apply the patch. >>>> >>>> What other trick do i need to do to get this patch applied? >>>> >>>> TIA, >>>> >>>> Jay >>> >>> Source from CD or FTP? >>> >>> If FTP, did you get both files? >>> >> I think maybe my problem might be that I didn't think I needed the sys.tar.gz file, so I didn't grab that and untar it. Could this be my whole problem? If so, I looked for the description of sys.tar.gz, to see if I needed to install it, but didn't see anything to say yea or nay. Jay
Re: 004_pf.patch path not correct for 4.2 RESOLVED
>> On 24/02/2008, at 11:15 AM, Jay Hart wrote: >> >>>> >>>> On 24/02/2008, at 10:44 AM, Jay Hart wrote: >>>> >>>>> I see that there is some problem trying to apply patch 004 (the pf >>>>> patch) >>>>> under 4.2. Looks like there was some discussion late in Mov 07 >>>>> about fixing >>>>> the patch to correct for wrong path / missing directory tree in the >>>>> patch. >>>>> >>>>> I've updated the index line (changed it from sys to src, but I >>>>> still can't >>>>> apply the patch. >>>>> >>>>> What other trick do i need to do to get this patch applied? >>>>> >>>>> TIA, >>>>> >>>>> Jay >>>> >>>> Source from CD or FTP? >>>> >>>> If FTP, did you get both files? >>>> >>> > > > I think maybe my problem might be that I didn't think I needed the sys.tar.gz > file, so I didn't grab that and untar it. > > Could this be my whole problem? > > If so, I looked for the description of sys.tar.gz, to see if I needed to > install it, but didn't see anything to say yea or nay. > > Jay Yupe, that all I needed to do. That and modify the index line.
Re: 004_pf.patch path not correct for 4.2
> On 2008-02-23, Jay Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I see that there is some problem trying to apply patch 004 (the pf patch) >> under 4.2. Looks like there was some discussion late in Mov 07 about fixing >> the patch to correct for wrong path / missing directory tree in the patch. > > I just checked-out OPENBSD_4_2_BASE and followed the instructions, > the patch applies fine. In general if there's a broken patch and there's > been some discussion about it, especially 3 months ago, you can expect > it to have been fixed.. > > If you do this: > >$ ident /usr/src/sys/net/pf.c > > and see this: > >net/pf.c: > $OpenBSD: pf.c,v 1.552.2.1 2007/11/27 16:37:57 henning Exp $ > > then you have OPENBSD_4_2 which is 4.2-stable and already has this > patch applied. > > If that doesn't help, paste in exactly what you type and see. > > I roughly see that. I was able to apply the patch after I installed the sys.tar.gz file, which I think caused my problem, but I also modified the index line from sys to src. I've now moved on and am patching the last of the files now. BTW, since I don't have X installed (other than xbase42.tgz), I think I can safely skip the 006_xorg patch. Do you agree? Thanks for your time, Jay
changing bash prompt escape sequences
I use bash as my shell. I'm trying to set the bash prompt to display: ttyC1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've created a .bashrc in the users home directory (in this case root), and used the following line: PS1="\l [EMAIL PROTECTED] #" When I login as root, or any other user for that matter, the default prompt is: -bash-3.2# the only way so far that I found to change the prompt is to type 'bash' at the prompt after login. This is ok, but I know that this should work the first time I login, without having to issue a standalone command. I've come to the conclusion that I need to modify another file within the /etc directory, but what? TIA, Jay
Re: changing bash prompt escape sequences
> On Feb 23, 2008, at 6:29 PM, Jay Hart wrote: > >> I use bash as my shell. >> >> I'm trying to set the bash prompt to display: >> >> ttyC1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> I've created a .bashrc in the users home directory (in this case >> root), and >> used the following line: >> >> PS1="\l [EMAIL PROTECTED] #" > > So, what happens when you can't log in to the system, delete the bash > package or lose your /usr/local/ filesystem? I'd suggest not using > that as your root login shell. I'll have to rescue the system if I can't login as root. If I lose my /usr/local filesystem, I've probably lost the drive too. I guess I have to ensure that I don't delete the bash package. > >> When I login as root, or any other user for that matter, the default >> prompt is: >> >> -bash-3.2# > > Try the system bashrc, or fire use .bash_profile. Created .bash_profile, same behavior. > >> the only way so far that I found to change the prompt is to type >> 'bash' at the >> prompt after login. This is ok, but I know that this should work the >> first >> time I login, without having to issue a standalone command. > > From the bash(1) 3.2 man page: > > When bash is invoked as an interactive login shell, or as > a non-interactive shell with the --login option, it first > reads and executes commands from the file /etc/profile, if > that file exists. After reading that file, it looks for > ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile, in that > order, and reads and executes commands from the first one > that exists and is readable. The --noprofile option may > be used when the shell is started to inhibit this behav- > ior. > >> >> I've come to the conclusion that I need to modify another file >> within the /etc directory, but what? > > So, what lead to that conclusion? Probably not the man page. > I've looked at or modified every file in roots and one users home directory without having the prompt displayed upon initial login. Once I login, and run 'bash', the prompt will be displayed as I set it. This leads me to believe that I have an initial file to set which is being read as part of the init of the box. Jay
Re: changing bash prompt escape sequences
I will take your's and Nick's advice, and change root shell back to ksh. Thanks, Jay > I have seen the following sort of remarks a couple of > times this past week, yet I haven't seen them corrected. > Nick Holland is such an excellent writer that, as often > as not, you don't need to look at the sample code to > follow his advice. That's not relevant in this case, > except insofar as I cannot understand why more people > don't spend more time with the FAQ (especially those who > offer advice). > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 12:16:18PM -0500, bofh wrote: >> >> In UNIX, it is always recommended not to change root's shell. This is >> because ... >> >> In free UNIX systems, it is also recommended for similar reasons ... > > "... though there is no good reason not to in OpenBSD." > > Let's save the rest of > > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html#rootshell > > for the curious reader. > > > (That said, I second recommendations to just use ksh.)
Re: kernel naming proposal
While I have no stake in this issue, I think as a user /bsd and /bsd.mp are fine. As a new user, I have to determine what the diff is between /bsd and /bsd.mp now, and if it was changed to /bsd.up and /bsd.mp, I'd still have to determine which was which. Am I missing something? Jay > OpenBSD kernel support on some architectures (I'm familiar with i386 > and amd64) includes both a uniprocessor and multiprocessor version of > the kernel. > > Currently the uniprocessor kernel is named bsd and the multiprocessor > kernel is named bsd.mp > > It seems to me that /bsd is currently overloaded to mean "the default > kernel to run" and "the uniprocessor version of the kernel". > > I propose that by default, the uniprocessor version of the kernel be > named bsd.up, and that the install process > arrange to have /bsd link to /bsd.up by default. Users who wanted to > run the mp kernel could arrange to change this link in their install > process (eg their install.site script) > > I'm know a hard link would work fine, but a symbolic link (if that > would work, I don't know) would be more convenient for some of us, > when we build new versions of GENERIC and GENERIC.MP, the install > process for each of these would just replace /bsd.up and /bsd.mp > respectively, and a symbolic link from /bsd to our chosen version of > the kernel would remain. > > Thank you in advance for considering this proposal. > > Best regards, > > Don
Re: Sun Creator 3D hardware wanted
It would be great if the devs could get back to the list which card(s) they wanted, so that its not a crap-shoot if an available card is what they need. I'm looking on my end for anything available, but a more directed search would be great. Jay > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:14 AM, J.C. Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> I'll see what I can dig up. My fear is the brand name "Creator3D" is >> used on multiple products with vastly differing hardware. I might have >> one (or more) of them here collecting dust. Most of my sun hadware is >> SS20 and U2 (with one U60 for kicks), but I have lots of them and >> plenty of spare parts. >> >> I *think* the "Creator3D" was also available on the Ultra2 but without a >> part number to reference, it's tough to say it's the same thing as the >> Ultra10 version. I want to think there were both PCI and SBUS versions >> which carried that name... >> >> -- >> (after some digging) >> >> Sorry for the resend Edd, and I've cc'd oga@ and misc@ on this one. >> >> Below is what I found on sunsolve and it seems I was right about >> the "Creator" brand name. Note, there are some dupes in the list below >> and I've forgotten the name of the interface Sun used on the Ultra-2 >> for video/graphics but it's a SBUS based system. Also, I've never owned >> a Ultra-30 (and I'm too lazy to look it up) but I'm pretty sure it is a >> PCI based machine. >> >> Ultra 2 (SBUS) >> >> http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/U2/components >> 3651A<http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/U2/components3651A> >> 501-2634Creator Series 1 (FFB) >> X3652A 501-3129Creator3D Series 1 (FFB) 24-Bit Frame Buffer >> X3653A 501-4127 Buy Creator Series 1 (FFB) 24-Bit Frame Buffer >> X3657A 501-4173Creator3D Series 2 (FFB2) 24-Bit Frame Buffer >> X3661A 501-4790Creator3D Series 3 (FFB2+) 24-Bit Frame Buffer >> X3671A 501-4790Creator3D Series 3 (FFB2+) 24-Bit Frame Buffer >> X3675A 501-4173Creator3D Series 2 (FFB2) 24-Bit Frame Buffer >> >> Ultra 10 (PCI) >> >> http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/U10/components >> X3662A<http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/U10/componentsX3662A> >> 501-4789Creator Series 3 (FFB2+) >> X3663A 501-5690 Buy Creator3D Series 3 (FFB2+) >> X3670A 501-5690 Buy Creator3D Series 3 (FFB2+) >> X3672A 501-4789Creator Series 3 (FFB2+) > > > So it looks like the "Creator3D" in the Ultra 2 is different than the one in > the Ultra 10. I have an Ultra 2 sitting around with the Creator3D card (not > sure which model, as it's at home and I'm currently not), and I would be > willing to ship it, preferably to the continental US. I'd have to check > shipping costs before shipping outside the US.
Re: Sun Creator 3D hardware wanted
Can you use the following: Not sure what the model number is, guess it's the number that looks like the serial number. But it's revision sticker has -05REV50 The model number might be this one: 98081 2A3 Got any clue what this might be? Jay > It would be great if the devs could get back to the list which card(s) they > wanted, so that its not a crap-shoot if an available card is what they need. > > I'm looking on my end for anything available, but a more directed search would > be great. > > Jay > >> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:14 AM, J.C. Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> I'll see what I can dig up. My fear is the brand name "Creator3D" is >>> used on multiple products with vastly differing hardware. I might have >>> one (or more) of them here collecting dust. Most of my sun hadware is >>> SS20 and U2 (with one U60 for kicks), but I have lots of them and >>> plenty of spare parts. >>> >>> I *think* the "Creator3D" was also available on the Ultra2 but without a >>> part number to reference, it's tough to say it's the same thing as the >>> Ultra10 version. I want to think there were both PCI and SBUS versions >>> which carried that name... >>> >>> -- >>> (after some digging) >>> >>> Sorry for the resend Edd, and I've cc'd oga@ and misc@ on this one. >>> >>> Below is what I found on sunsolve and it seems I was right about >>> the "Creator" brand name. Note, there are some dupes in the list below >>> and I've forgotten the name of the interface Sun used on the Ultra-2 >>> for video/graphics but it's a SBUS based system. Also, I've never owned >>> a Ultra-30 (and I'm too lazy to look it up) but I'm pretty sure it is a >>> PCI based machine. >>> >>> Ultra 2 (SBUS) >>> >>> http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/U2/components >>> 3651A<http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/U2/components3651A> >>> 501-2634Creator Series 1 (FFB) >>> X3652A 501-3129Creator3D Series 1 (FFB) 24-Bit Frame Buffer >>> X3653A 501-4127 Buy Creator Series 1 (FFB) 24-Bit Frame Buffer >>> X3657A 501-4173Creator3D Series 2 (FFB2) 24-Bit Frame Buffer >>> X3661A 501-4790Creator3D Series 3 (FFB2+) 24-Bit Frame Buffer >>> X3671A 501-4790Creator3D Series 3 (FFB2+) 24-Bit Frame Buffer >>> X3675A 501-4173Creator3D Series 2 (FFB2) 24-Bit Frame Buffer >>> >>> Ultra 10 (PCI) >>> >>> http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/U10/components >>> X3662A<http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/U10/componentsX3662A> >>> 501-4789Creator Series 3 (FFB2+) >>> X3663A 501-5690 Buy Creator3D Series 3 (FFB2+) >>> X3670A 501-5690 Buy Creator3D Series 3 (FFB2+) >>> X3672A 501-4789Creator Series 3 (FFB2+) >> >> >> So it looks like the "Creator3D" in the Ultra 2 is different than the one in >> the Ultra 10. I have an Ultra 2 sitting around with the Creator3D card (not >> sure which model, as it's at home and I'm currently not), and I would be >> willing to ship it, preferably to the continental US. I'd have to check >> shipping costs before shipping outside the US.
Re: Sun Creator 3D hardware wanted
Edd, I was able to have the person owning this card get the following number from it: Ok, I have a white sticker with the following: 5014788055938 Let me know is this number works for you, I will try to determine what type of system it is in. Jay > On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 08:52:41PM -0500, Jay Hart wrote: >> Can you use the following: >> >> Not sure what the model number is, guess it's the number that >> looks like the serial number. But it's revision sticker has >> >> -05REV50 >> >> The model number might be this one: >> >> 98081 2A3 >> >> Got any clue what this might be? > > These do not look like sun part numbers. Google reveals nothing. > > Is this a card or a system? Do you have a picture? > >> >> Jay >> >> > It would be great if the devs could get back to the list which card(s) >> they >> > wanted, so that its not a crap-shoot if an available card is what they >> need. > > We do not know much about the cards/variations which is making this > difficult. As far as I know there is the XVR family of cards which > consists of creator/elite3d models they can also come UPA/PCI as far as > I know. > > The support I initially discussed with oga@ was a card that was seen as > creator0 in dmesg. > > creator0 at mainbus0 addr 0xfebee000: Creator3D, model SUNW,501-4788, > dac 10 > wsdisplay1 at creator0: console (std, sun emulation), using wskbd0 > > Wha! And theres your sun part number "501-4788" > > Found it accidentally. Enjoy. > > -- > > Best Regards > Edd > > http://students.dec.bmth.ac.uk/ebarrett
Re: Sun Creator 3D hardware wanted
> On Friday 29 February 2008, Edd Barrett wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 03:01:54PM -0500, Jay Hart wrote: >> > Edd, >> > >> > I was able to have the person owning this card get the following >> > number from it: >> > >> > Ok, I have a white sticker with the following: >> > >> > 5014788055938 >> > >> > Let me know is this number works for you, I will try to determine >> > what type of system it is in. >> >> Means nothing to me. Can you get a dmesg? >> >> > > How the numbers are written on sickers/lables or even on the silk screen > of the PCB are different than how Sun writes the part numbers on their > web site and documentation. > > Given: 5014788055938 > The first chunk is 501 > Then the next chunk is 4788 > > On their site/docs it would be written as 501-4788 > > X3662A 501-4789Creator Series 3 (FFB2+) So, given the part number alone, can you use it? I am still trying to get you more info about it? Jay
Re: openbsd router hardware
I beg your pardon, but I have been running a VIA based mini-itx box for over a year now, and except for some initial case fan problems, it is ROCK FCSKING SOLID. I have the following board Migrus C787-1.5G D3N-P I also have another system with the same board minus the ethernet daughter card, it also had crappy case fans which I replaced, and it has been solid for over a year as well. Check out www.caseoutlet.com. I like these systems... Jay > On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 13:29 +0100, Joerg Zinke wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm looking for hardware to install an openbsd based dsl-router. >> I already searched the list archives and looked at WRAP and Soekris, >> but it seems that they do not match my requirements: >> >> - fanless >> - as small as possible > > - Soekris > - Routerboard > - Axiomtek > - ARInfotek > - Nexcom > - Advantech > - Acrosser > - Win Enterprises > > I think that we can agree that you really want to avoid VIA-anything. > You really get what you pay for. Some set top models I've looked at: > > http://www.axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=470 > > http://www.nexcom.com/product/productshow.jsp?iid=11&pid=919 > > http://www.advantech.com/products/Tabletop-Intel-Pentium-MProcessor-based-Platformwith-4-PCIe-LAN-Ports-MINIPCI-Expansion-Onboard/mod_1-2JKJKY.aspx > > > http://www.acrosser.com/Product/Networking% > 20applicance/VPN-V-Series/Firewall_eden_m9923.html > > > http://www.arinfotek.com/product/product.asp?idx=2002&pid=11 > > > ~BAS > >> - at least 2, better 3 ethernet ports >> - a wlan-card (as access point in hostap mode) >> - mainboard and other hardware should work with openbsd of course, >> would be nice to see output from hw.sensors* >> - storage should have at least 10GB, I think this leads to a real >> ide/sata-disk (maybe 2.5") >> - vga-output (because I have no other machine with a serial port to do >> the installation) >> - lcd-display (something that is supported by lcdproc, which seems to >> work fine on openbsd) >> >> Not a requirement, but nice-to-have: usb-2.0 port(s). >> >> Does anyone know a company or vendor which builds such an >> (openbsd-)ready system fulfilling the above requirements? >> >> Or did I need to start buying all pieces (maybe mini-itx based?) and >> assembly them on my own? >> >> Any hints? >> >> Regards, >> >> Joerg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only > for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended > recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to > an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, > distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please notify the > sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and > delete this e-mail from your system.
Re: openbsd router hardware
> Joe wrote: >> On Mar 1, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Brian A. Seklecki (Mobile) wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 13:29 +0100, Joerg Zinke wrote: >>>> Hi, >> Are you sure you know what you're talking about? VIA works great. >> >> I have read nothing but good things about VIA cpu's from the developers >> on this list. >> >> Perhaps you got a bad board in your past? >> > > I have a thin client with an ECS motherboard and VIA C3 Samuel -- the > earlier version of the CPU -- and OpenBSD 4.2 runs great on it. > > I second that, I have a VIA C7 running running 4.2, and works fine. Jay
Re: OpenBSD with pf on a mini-ITX?
I have a mini-itx box based on a migrus motherbaord which uses a VIA C7 processor. Its been running for over a year without any problems. The box is a router and firewall doing NAT for five PCs. I bought a system from www.caseoutlet.com. Jay > Hi all, > Have anyone tried to run OpenBSD with pf on a Jetway J7F2 (or similar) > motherboard to act as a firewall and do NAT? > > Any inputs will be welcome! Thanks, > -- > Jordi
Hardware to give away
I have the following hardware: Viking Component Memory Module (2 pieces) 9525253 Rev B Came out of a Sparc, but can't remember which type Antares Microsystems PCI UWD SCSI Host Adapter (Part# P-0060) I think this is a P-0060 ASM #: 20-052-0060 Jay
Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...
I will drink a beer to commemorate our lose. Jay > ...was rather unspectacular: Hardware failiure. > > The system's name was "base", originally installed with > OpenBSD 2.3 on Jun 12, 1998: > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 5 Jun 12 1998 etc/myname > > It ran the OpenBSD 2.3 kernel and most of the userland until > it stopped responding about three weeks ago and couldn't be > resurrected. > > Small hardware problems had happened before, as with most > systems that have been running uninterrupted for nearly 10 > years, but this time I decided against getting it up again: > Running modern software had gotten a real chore (never managed > to backport OpenSSH, for example, so it still had the last > version of the old ssh.com daemon (1.2.32?). > (Well, that, and the 2.3 GENERIC kernel reliably shot down > the VMWare session I tried to get it running in.) > > Good old internet software like sendmail or bind never were > a problem though, even in their most recent versions (which may > or may not be a compliment, depending on your point of view). > > To my knowlege, the system never was hacked - despite running > software like qpop 2.53 or really, really old versions of > apache and php. (I sometimes found core files, but I guess > the system was just too obscure to be a valid target for > any type of automated attack.) > > base had lots of old stuff still lying around, like an emergency > netboot environment for the sun3/160 that it had replaced as main > server for infra.de back at the time, an Amanda client for my > old employer's network backup system that's long gone, or the > configuration for half a dozen UUCP feeds which have lost > their peers ages ago. > > Gone are the days when 32MB RAM was a lot, a stripped down OpenBSD > kernel had a whopping 1MB, and a handful of blacklists got rid > of almost all of the spam. > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel1056157 Jul 31 2002 /bsd > > Alex.
Re: OpenBSD dedicated hosting
On 16 Sep 2006 17:30:10 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > > "Gilles" == Gilles Chehade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Gilles> I am looking for companies that provide OpenBSD-powered dedicated > Gilles> hosting. Currently, I am being hosted by a french company which > Gilles> turned out to be as incompetent as can be, and I am willing to > switch > Gilles> as soon as possible (preferably before the 25th of September). > > stonehenge.com has been on an openbsd-based dedicated box since april of > 2002 > at sprocketdata.com. You can ask me privately about details. > I just dropped SprocketData after having a dedicated server there for about two years. They were really good at first, they helped me track down a bad Ethernet card (in their box) that was giving us problems. Fortunately they had two in the box and it was easy to switch to the other card. In the past year they kept having "router problems" with no end of excuses. After a 12+ hour power outage we had it and went elsewhere. Elsewhere does not support OpenBSD though.
Re: Can't browse to Microsoft web sites...
Maybe we could create a fake blog site stating that MSN.COM is offline until the M$Soft-Yahoo deal is completed. Would that help you out. Jay > I know, "Who cares?" or "Great!" is my own response but my users have > other wishes that include msn.com and this one has me stumped. > > I had a more complex pf rule set but now I'm using a simple rule set > based almost entirely on the one from the PF FAQ: > > ext_if="em0" # External Public Interface > int_if="bge0" # Internal LAN Interface > tcp_services = "{ 22, 113 }" > udp_services = "{ domain, ntp }" > icmp_types = "{ echoreq, unreach }" > table persist > set block-policy return > set loginterface $ext_if > set skip on { lo, tun } > scrub in no-df fragment reassemble > nat on $ext_if from !($ext_if) -> ($ext_if:0) > nat-anchor "ftp-proxy/*" > rdr-anchor "ftp-proxy/*" > rdr on $int_if proto tcp from any to any port ftp -> 127.0.0.1 port 8021 > block in log > pass out log keep state > anchor "ftp-proxy/*" > antispoof log quick for { lo $int_if } > block in log quick on $ext_if from to any > pass in log quick on $ext_if proto tcp from any to ($ext_if) port ssh \ > >keep state (max-src-conn-rate 3/30, overload flush global) > > pass in log on $ext_if inet proto tcp from any to ($ext_if) port \ >$tcp_services keep state > pass in log on $ext_if inet proto udp from any to ($ext_if) port \ >$udp_services keep state > pass in log inet proto icmp all icmp-type $icmp_types keep state > pass in log quick on $int_if > > > I added all of the log lines so I could hopefully see what's going awry. > > From the firewall itself, when I use lynx to try > > http://www.msn.com > > I get asked to accept about 5 cookies, which I accept and then a "HTTP > request sent; waiting for response." and that's it. > > Watching pflog0 I see this: > > May 20 09:59:58.339833 rule 1/(match) pass out on em0: 192.168.0.2.23294 > > 205.128.93.51.53:[|domain] > May 20 09:59:58.548598 rule 1/(match) pass out on em0: 192.168.0.2.4281 > > 207.68.173.76.80: [|tcp] (DF) > > I don't ever see a return packet, and nothing is ever blocked as seen > from pflog0. > > Thinking it is a scrub issue, I've tried scrub in, scrub in no-df, and > the combination listed above, with no difference. > > Hopefully someone can provide me a cluestick before my msn deprived > users do something ugly--to me! > > > Thanks, > > Jeff
Re: Resume - Mumps Developer
I believe he was volunteering to rewrite the kernel using VB 6.0, but I could be wrong. Jay > And what > > If it's not spam,than I think,that devs of OpenBSD want your physical and real > experience,like programs and so on.Not a list of names.My list will be > longer,but I don't think,that I can ask for job ;-) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jose > thomas > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 4:50 PM > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Resume - Mumps Developer > > Hi, > > Herewith I am sending my resume with this letter. I have more than 3 years > of experience and below mentioned is my skill set. > Mumps, ClearCase, ClearQuest, Siebel 7.0, Lab, HL7, HIPAA, VB 6.0, VB.Net, > HTML, Infragistics and SQL Server 2000 > > If it suits to the requirements of your esteemed organization please let me > know. > > Sincerely, > Jose Thomas > Software Engineer > Sunquest Information Systems India Pvt. Ltd. > Mobile: 0091+9845735384 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: http://www.sunquestinfo.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type APPLICATION/DEFANGED which had a > name of Resume_of_Jose_Thomas.17023DEFANGED-doc]
Re: Resume - Mumps Developer
BMWs > jose thomas wrote: > >> Herewith I am sending my resume with this letter. I have more than 3 years >> of experience and below mentioned is my skill set. >> Mumps, ClearCase, ClearQuest, Siebel 7.0, Lab, HL7, HIPAA, VB 6.0, VB.Net, >> HTML, Infragistics and SQL Server 2000 > > > I have heard about Mumps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumps), but what > are the other diseases? > > Thilo
Re:
Spot on!!! Jay > What a funny message :-) > I want manual for DoS attack too.And for phishing,cracking,DDoS,remote > execution of code,Buffer overflow and many others.Why to learn something?Just > give me the manual now. > > I have help for you.Use google,buy some books and learn,read and try all new > things on your small network.It's super for your knowledge.Even better for > your research because you can learn something. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > kavitha reddy > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:52 PM > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: > > sir, > Iam kavitha working as ASSOC. Prof. in a reputed engg. college,INDIA.I > would be very much glad to if u can do this favour. > very recently i bought openBSD 4.2 (pack of 3CD's).Now, as a part of my > research work iam interested to know whether it is possible to show DoS > attacks in openBSD 4.1 .If so let me know how can that be possible.As u said > when a patch added to openBSD 4.2 , prevents remote DoS attacks.How can this > be tested. > With ur kind help , i can further continue my research work on this. > Anyhow, thanks for sparing ur valuable time to read this. > kavitha
Re: Can't scp, ssh is slow to authenticate.
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Giancarlo Razzolini > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Nuno MagalhC#es escreveu: >>> It was yes, became no, still doesn't work. So far all of your >>> suggestions amounted to nothing useful, much like your rants but hey, >>> if the Theo guy can act like an ass i guess you can too, i mean, he's >>> the boss and all... >>> >>> In the meantime, i'll do something useful, like trying suggestions >>> other (nice) posters provided. >>> Stay tuned :) >>> >>> >> If you think we are "egotrippers", pain in the ass, and things like >> that, why you're questioning here first of all? We tried to answer your >> questions directly, but it looks like you don't want to hear. It's >> simpler to "oh, i'll question, and i want to hear the solution prompt >> and ready to be used." If you do not like our suggestions, then your >> place isn't on this mail list. > > I wasn't adessing the list, i was adressing you, Giancarlo :) Slight > difference. I thought the "other posters" would give it away... I > don't expect answers on the fly and i'm actually surprised people are > responding positively (well except you), i've had many (good) > suggestions and i've tried most of them already. > Nuno, I didn't think his responses to you were negative. Hey, most troubleshooting efforts are process of elimination anyway. Keep trying things till you figure it out. I've spent weeks working on issues before. Jay > And then i had two guys getting offended because i fail to see the > almighty importance of DNS. > > Since i think it's a waste to send one message for every reply i have, > no, i don't have top running from .bashrc (i think... i've just added > alliases) but i'll look into why that line shows up. thanks for the > tip. > > In fact, the only relevant content of this message is the previous sentence. > > -- > Nuno MagalhC#es
Re: OpenBSD 4.4 pre-orders
> Theo de Raadt wrote: >> >> Pre-orders for OpenBSD 4.4 (CD, tshirt, poster) are up at >> >> http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html >> >> > > Do the first X number of pre-orders get autographed... or something :) > Direct ship your copy to me, I'll test it out for you, sign that its a good copy, and send it to you. Will that work? J > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/OpenBSD-4.4-pre-orders-tp19318881p19320510.html > Sent from the openbsd user - misc mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Da li zaista znate sve o veliÄinama? (Email from Top Shop)
I consider email from this place spam. I'm wondering why its not filtered? Jay > Top Shop > > Top e-revija: 26 l 5. septembar 2008. > > Najbolja praktiD na reE!enja i saveti za bolji E>ivot > > PoD etna l Budi fit l Lepota l Zdravlje l Kuhinja i domaDinstvo > > Zabava i deca l Carstvo igraD aka l Knjige > > Top Shop > > HIT TV proizvodi! > > ab rocket > > Ab Rocket > > steam mop > > H20 > Steam Mop > > leg magic > > Massage Cusshion > > massage cushion > > Kleen > Kut > > turbo maximus > > Turbo Maximus > > Da li znate baE! sve o veliD inama? > > "Penjanje uz stepenice" za lepE!i izgled > > 5 trikova za prijatniju kancelariju > > Znanje se nagraDuje: Nagrade za favorite > > Dovek je jedno od biDa na planeti, D iji bmuE>jakb ima najveDi > muE!ki polni organ spram svoje veliD ine. > > Kada pobrojimo najpopularnije fitnes sprave - meDu njima De se sigurno > naDi i steper. > > Kako se odeDate na svom radnom mestu? Da li D esto imate glavobolje, > oseDate da vam je zaguE!ljivo... > > U kvizu "Moj favorit" koji je Top Shop organizovao, dodeljene su vredne > nagrade... > > Sve o veliD inama > > Da li znate baE! sve o veliD inama? > > Dovek je jedno od biDa na planeti, D iji bmuE>jakb ima najveDi > polni organ spram svoje veliD ine... ZaE!to su muE!karci D esto > nezadovoljni? E ta E>ene E>ele? Ko uspostavlja standarde po pitanju > veliD ine? Postoji viE!e kriterijuma utvrDivanja veliD ine ljudskog > penisa... [viE!e...] > > Septembarska uE!teda! > > Power Juicer Express + POKLON > > Celluless > > Pancake Puffs > > Jucer i opener > Cena: 9.990 RSD > > Celluless > Cena: 3.590 RSD > > Turbo Maximus Queen > Cena: 1.890 RSD > > Sokovnik i POKLON - elektriD ni otvaraD za konzerve! > > JoE! samo 24 komada po 10% niE>oj ceni! Oslobodite se celulita. > > Za uE!topke savE!enog izgleda, od sada po niE>oj ceni! > > [ViE!e l PoruD i odmah] > > [ViE!e l PoruD i odmah] > > [ViE!e l PoruD i odmah] > > Steper > > "Penjanje uz stepenice" za lepE!i izgled > > Kada pobrojimo najpopularnije fitnes sprave - bilo za veE>banje kod > kuDe, bilo u fitnes klubovima - meDu njima Demo se sigurno prisetiti i > stepera. VeE>be na steperu, po principu bbeskonaD nog penjanja uz > stepeniceb pomaE>u lepE!em izgledu, troE!enju suviE!ne energije i > kalorija. [viE!e...] > > Lep izgled - zdrav E>ivot > > Steper sa tegovima > > Air Climber > > Slim Stepper > > Steper sa tegovima > Cena: 5.990 RSD > > Air Climber > Cena: 8.990 RSD > > Slim Stepper > Cena: 2.990 RSD > > NOVO! Steper koji ima dodatke za akupresuru, tegove, disk za struk. > > Vakuumski steper kombinuje kardio i veE>be za trbuE!njake. > > VeE>bajte kod kuDe, ne bacajte novac na skupe treninge. > > [ViE!e l PoruD i odmah] > > [ViE!e l PoruD i odmah] > > [ViE!e l PoruD i odmah] > > VoDe > > 5 trikova za prijatniju kancelariju > > Kako se odeDate na svom radnom mestu? Da li D esto imate glavobolje, > oseDate da vam je zaguE!ljivo ili postajete anksiozni? MoE>da baE! mesto > na koje dolazite dan za danom b kancelarija b ima tako negativan > uticaj na vas. Pa...NaD inite je prijatnijim mestom za boravak... > ProD itajte kako. [viE!e...] > > Obradujte sebe i svoju porodicu > > Tweeze > > Kleen Kut > > Joy BOX > > Tweeze > Cena: 2.190 RSD > > Kleen Kut > Cena: 2.190 RSD > > Joy Box > Cena: 4.890 RSD > > Pinceta koja precizno hvata i potpuno uklanja neE>eljenje dlake! > > ElektriD ni, vodootporni brijaD na baterijeza muE!karce. > > Pevajte, gledajte filmove, sluE!ajte muziku, igrajte igrice porodiD no. > > [ViE!e l PoruD i odmah] > > [ViE!e l PoruD i odmah] > > [ViE!e l PoruD i odmah] > > Dobitnici > > Nagrade za favorite > > Svi koji redovno poseDuju e-Topshop web stranicu, znaju da pored velikog > izbora proizvoda i tekstova iz raznih oblasti E>ivota, povremeno > organizujemo i nagradne kvizove.Jedan od takvih bio je i junski kviz > bMoj Favoritb posveDen Evropskom prvenstvu u fudbalu Euro 2008... > [viE!e...] > > Za praktiD an i udoban E>ivot > > Total Sauna > > Roto Duster > > Snap'n'slice > > Total Sauna > Cena: 8.990 RSD > > Roto Duster > Cena: 2.490 RSD > > Snap n Slice > Cena: 3.490 RSD > > Mala portabl sauna koju moE>ete koristiti u udobnosti doma! > > DistaD koji radi na baterije i D isti statiD kim elektricitetom. > > Za dekorativno i brzo seck
Re: update/upgrade
If you are looking for one liner for snapshots : http://bsdguru.in/3/any-tutorial-for-installing-snap-on-openbsd-5-8 and for stable m:tier is best. On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Quartz wrote: > If availability is critical you might consider redundancy with CARP/pfsync. >> > > It's not critical enough to be worth dealing that. Going down for like 15 > minutes is fine, but most of a day is not. > > In a perfect world we're looking for an update mechanism similar in speed > and ease to other OSs where you can run a one liner on the live system > which automatically downloads and installs a few files and reboots. I'm > trying to get as close to that as possible without having to create and > maintain a whole home-grown custom procedure. > > It looks like the M:tier thing is pretty close, my only concern is how > long it'll last before the maintainers lose interest and the project gets > abandoned.
Re: Does majordomo support 'no mail delivery subscription'?
He is troll. using random inbox ... On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Nigel wrote: > On 09/27/15 09:32, Adam wrote: > > > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/26849/does-majordomo-support-no-mail-delivery-subscription > > > > What's your take, OpenBSD folks? > > > > > > The mail list details are here > > http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html
Re: It was twenty years ago you see...
Happy Birthday. And congratulations. :) On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > OpenBSD's source tree just turned 20 years old. > > I recall the import taking about 3 hours on an EISA-bus 486 with two > ESDI drives. There was an import attempt a few days earlier, but it > failed due to insufficient space. It took some time to repartition > the machine. > > It wasn't terribly long before David Miller, Chuck Cranor and Niklas > Hallqvist were commiting... then more people showed up. > > The first developments were improvements to 32-bit sparc. > > Chuck and I also worked on setting up the first 'anoncvs' to make sure > noone was ever cut out from 'the language of diffs' again. I guess > that was the precursor for the github concept these days :-). People > forget, but even FSF was a walled garden at the time -- throwing tar > files with vague logs over the wall every couple months. > > I was lucky to have one of the few 64Kbit ISDN links in town, > otherwise this would not have happened. My desktop was a Sparcstation > 10; the third machine I had was a very slow 386. > > The project is now at: > > ~322,000 commits > ~44 commits/day average > ~356 hackers through the years > > -- > > On this day, is my pleasure to give you a song written for the > release by Todd Miller. > > http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#58a > > It was twenty years ago you see > Theo opened a cvs tree > Made commits to many a file > Joined by others in a very short while > > Take a moment to view > The source of all this code > The openbsd cvs repo... > > We're the openssh repository > We hope you will enjoy the code > The openntpd repository > But that's not all that's here oh no... > The mandoc 'pository, smtpd 'tory > The libressl repo too > > It's wonderful to see the code > Re-used far and wide > The license is so liberal > We'd love for you to code with us > We'd love for you to code... > > I don't really want to have to go > But it's hackathon time and so > The coder will commit the code > That he wants all of you to load > > So let me introduce to you the one and only Puffy Fish > And the openbsd cvs repo... > > B... S... D... > > -- > > (The 5.8 release will be announced and released in a few hours.)
lib error
Hi, my package updates stopped because of internet disconnection. after that i did pkg_check and pkg_add -u but even after that i am getting this error : --- .libs-partial-gstreamer-0.10.36p7 --- lib should exist lib is not a directory lib/libgstbase-0.10.so.3.0 should exist lib/libgstbase-0.10.so.3.0 is not a file can't read lib/libgstbase-0.10.so.3.0 lib/libgstcheck-0.10.so.2.0 should exist lib/libgstcheck-0.10.so.2.0 is not a file can't read lib/libgstcheck-0.10.so.2.0 lib/libgstcontroller-0.10.so.4.0 should exist lib/libgstcontroller-0.10.so.4.0 is not a file can't read lib/libgstcontroller-0.10.so.4.0 lib/libgstdataprotocol-0.10.so.3.0 should exist lib/libgstdataprotocol-0.10.so.3.0 is not a file can't read lib/libgstdataprotocol-0.10.so.3.0 lib/libgstnet-0.10.so.3.0 should exist lib/libgstnet-0.10.so.3.0 is not a file can't read lib/libgstnet-0.10.so.3.0 --- .libs-partial-seamonkey-2.32.1 --- lib should exist lib is not a directory lib/seamonkey-2.32.1 should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1 is not a directory lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components is not a directory lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libmozgnome.so.41.0 should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libmozgnome.so.41.0 is not a file can't read lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libmozgnome.so.41.0 lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libsuite.so.41.0 should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libsuite.so.41.0 is not a file can't read lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libsuite.so.41.0 lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldap60.so.41.0 should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldap60.so.41.0 is not a file can't read lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldap60.so.41.0 lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldif60.so.41.0 should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldif60.so.41.0 is not a file can't read lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldif60.so.41.0 lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libmozalloc.so.41.0 should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libmozalloc.so.41.0 is not a file can't read lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libmozalloc.so.41.0 lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libprldap60.so.41.0 should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libprldap60.so.41.0 is not a file can't read lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libprldap60.so.41.0 lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libxul.so.41.0 should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libxul.so.41.0 is not a file can't read lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libxul.so.41.0 --- .libs-seamonkey-2.32.1 --- /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libmozgnome.so.41.0 should exist /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libmozgnome.so.41.0 is not a file can't read /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libmozgnome.so.41.0 /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libsuite.so.41.0 should exist /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libsuite.so.41.0 is not a file can't read /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libsuite.so.41.0 /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldap60.so.41.0 should exist /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldap60.so.41.0 is not a file can't read /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldap60.so.41.0 /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldif60.so.41.0 should exist /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldif60.so.41.0 is not a file can't read /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldif60.so.41.0 /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libmozalloc.so.41.0 should exist /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libmozalloc.so.41.0 is not a file can't read /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libmozalloc.so.41.0 /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libprldap60.so.41.0 should exist /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libprldap60.so.41.0 is not a file can't read /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libprldap60.so.41.0 /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libxul.so.41.0 should exist /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libxul.so.41.0 is not a file can't read /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libxul.so.41.0 --- binpatch58-amd64-libcrypto-1.0 --- /var/db/binpatch/5.8-007/fake/usr/share/man/man3 should exist /var/db/binpatch/5.8-007/fake/usr/share/man/man3 is not a directory --- binpatch58-amd64-smtpd-1.0 --- /var/db/binpatch/5.8-004/fake/usr/share/man/man8 should exist /var/db/binpatch/5.8-004/fake/usr/share/man/man8 is not a directory --- binpatch58-amd64-sshd-1.0 --- /var/db/binpatch/5.8-001/fake/usr/libexec should exist /var/db/binpatch/5.8-001/fake/usr/libexec is not a directory /var/db/binpatch/5.8-001/fake/usr/share/man/man1 should exist /var/db/binpatch/5.8-001/fake/usr/share/man/man1 is not a directory --- binpatch58-amd64-sslhello-1.0 --- /var/db/binpatch/5.8-002/fake/usr/share/man/man3 should exist /var/db/binpatch/5.8-002/fake/usr/share/man/man3 is not a directory System libs NOT in locate dbs: /usr/lib/libpthread.so.18.1 Thanks, Jay
lib error
complete pkg_check : --- .libs-partial-gstreamer-0.10.36p7 --- lib should exist lib is not a directory lib/libgstbase-0.10.so.3.0 should exist lib/libgstbase-0.10.so.3.0 is not a file can't read lib/libgstbase-0.10.so.3.0 lib/libgstcheck-0.10.so.2.0 should exist lib/libgstcheck-0.10.so.2.0 is not a file can't read lib/libgstcheck-0.10.so.2.0 lib/libgstcontroller-0.10.so.4.0 should exist lib/libgstcontroller-0.10.so.4.0 is not a file can't read lib/libgstcontroller-0.10.so.4.0 lib/libgstdataprotocol-0.10.so.3.0 should exist lib/libgstdataprotocol-0.10.so.3.0 is not a file can't read lib/libgstdataprotocol-0.10.so.3.0 lib/libgstnet-0.10.so.3.0 should exist lib/libgstnet-0.10.so.3.0 is not a file can't read lib/libgstnet-0.10.so.3.0 --- .libs-partial-seamonkey-2.32.1 --- lib should exist lib is not a directory lib/seamonkey-2.32.1 should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1 is not a directory lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components is not a directory lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libmozgnome.so.41.0 should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libmozgnome.so.41.0 is not a file can't read lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libmozgnome.so.41.0 lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libsuite.so.41.0 should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libsuite.so.41.0 is not a file can't read lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libsuite.so.41.0 lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldap60.so.41.0 should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldap60.so.41.0 is not a file can't read lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldap60.so.41.0 lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldif60.so.41.0 should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldif60.so.41.0 is not a file can't read lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldif60.so.41.0 lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libmozalloc.so.41.0 should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libmozalloc.so.41.0 is not a file can't read lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libmozalloc.so.41.0 lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libprldap60.so.41.0 should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libprldap60.so.41.0 is not a file can't read lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libprldap60.so.41.0 lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libxul.so.41.0 should exist lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libxul.so.41.0 is not a file can't read lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libxul.so.41.0 --- .libs-seamonkey-2.32.1 --- /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libmozgnome.so.41.0 should exist /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libmozgnome.so.41.0 is not a file can't read /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libmozgnome.so.41.0 /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libsuite.so.41.0 should exist /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libsuite.so.41.0 is not a file can't read /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/components/libsuite.so.41.0 /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldap60.so.41.0 should exist /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldap60.so.41.0 is not a file can't read /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldap60.so.41.0 /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldif60.so.41.0 should exist /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldif60.so.41.0 is not a file can't read /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libldif60.so.41.0 /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libmozalloc.so.41.0 should exist /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libmozalloc.so.41.0 is not a file can't read /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libmozalloc.so.41.0 /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libprldap60.so.41.0 should exist /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libprldap60.so.41.0 is not a file can't read /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libprldap60.so.41.0 /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libxul.so.41.0 should exist /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libxul.so.41.0 is not a file can't read /usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.32.1/libxul.so.41.0 --- binpatch58-amd64-libcrypto-1.0 --- /var/db/binpatch/5.8-007/fake/usr/share/man/man3 should exist /var/db/binpatch/5.8-007/fake/usr/share/man/man3 is not a directory --- binpatch58-amd64-smtpd-1.0 --- /var/db/binpatch/5.8-004/fake/usr/share/man/man8 should exist /var/db/binpatch/5.8-004/fake/usr/share/man/man8 is not a directory --- binpatch58-amd64-sshd-1.0 --- /var/db/binpatch/5.8-001/fake/usr/libexec should exist /var/db/binpatch/5.8-001/fake/usr/libexec is not a directory /var/db/binpatch/5.8-001/fake/usr/share/man/man1 should exist /var/db/binpatch/5.8-001/fake/usr/share/man/man1 is not a directory --- binpatch58-amd64-sslhello-1.0 --- /var/db/binpatch/5.8-002/fake/usr/share/man/man3 should exist /var/db/binpatch/5.8-002/fake/usr/share/man/man3 is not a directory System libs NOT in locate dbs: /usr/lib/libpthread.so.18.1 Not found: /boot /bsd /bsd.mp /bsd.rd /bsd.rollback /bsd.sp /etc/X11/app-defaults/XScreenSaver /etc/X11/xdm/pixmaps/xorg-bw.xpm /etc/X11/xdm/pixmaps/xorg.xpm /etc/adduser.conf /etc/bash_completion.d/pacat /etc/bash_completion.d/pacmd /etc/bash_completion.d/pactl /etc/bash_completion.d/padsp /etc/bash_completion.d/pa
Re: [mot] serious about clang/llvm?
You can get in touch with Eric Radman http://openports.se/lang/pcc may be you can help port it to OpenBSD. :) On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > i have been reading up online news about the core team considering a move > from 'gcc' to "clang/llvm". > is it really true? wouldn't that add a whole lot of complexity to the base > system? isn't clang/llvm written in c++11? wouldn't 'pcc' be a better > alternative? especially because (i think) openbsd is striving to deliver a > compact base install with as small a disk footprint as possible! > i had heard rumours about the openbsd core team having a part of openbsd > built using 'pcc', is it true? if yes, did that effort not produce > desirable > results? > -mayuresh
Re: Firefox Worked Slowly...
Hi, Try seamonkey and chrome see if you are getting same result or they are working smooth? also check with ulimit .. otherwise midori is good alternative. On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Mohammad BadieZadegan wrote: > Hi everybody, > I was installed OpenBSD on many Servers that have more CPU types but on > every of them while I worked with firefox it handle websites very slowly! > My Network bandwiths is not bad. > Is that Firefox needs some special configure on OpenBSD? > Or The better way is using another browser such as midori? > What can I do? > Regards.
Ethernet not working
Hi, This is my dmesg : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5ECiq648H2-UUNwZ0FlRzdJdWI0M1A0TURJLUVaS0dLbTV3/view?usp=sharing i got my wireless working iwn but i am unable to get firmware of my Ethernet. Regards, Jay
Re: Ethernet not working
0: ATAPI 5/cdrom removable ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel 7 Series SMBus" rev 0x04: apic 0 int 19 iic0 at ichiic0 spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x52: 2GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-12800 SO-DIMM isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0 pms0: Elantech Touchpad, version 3, firmware 0x450f03 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 spkr0 at pcppi0 uhub3 at uhub1 port 1 "Intel Rate Matching Hub" rev 2.00/0.00 addr 2 ugen0 at uhub3 port 3 "Intel product 0x07da" rev 2.00/78.69 addr 3 ugen1 at uhub3 port 4 "Generic USB2.0-CRW" rev 2.00/39.60 addr 4 uhub4 at uhub2 port 1 "Intel Rate Matching Hub" rev 2.00/0.00 addr 2 uvideo0 at uhub4 port 4 configuration 1 interface 0 "Generic Lenovo EasyCamera" rev 2.00/3.27 addr 3 video0 at uvideo0 vscsi0 at root scsibus2 at vscsi0: 256 targets softraid0 at root scsibus3 at softraid0: 256 targets root on sd0a (e1e4bb01f2e7de6c.a) swap on sd0b dump on sd0b hw.sensors.cpu0.temp0=45.00 degC hw.sensors.acpitz0.temp0=50.00 degC (zone temperature) hw.sensors.acpibat0.volt0=10.80 VDC (voltage) hw.sensors.acpibat0.volt1=10.91 VDC (current voltage) hw.sensors.acpibat0.power0=13.17 W (rate) hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour0=20.98 Wh (last full capacity) hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour1=2.09 Wh (warning capacity) hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour2=0.63 Wh (low capacity) hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour3=20.98 Wh (remaining capacity), OK hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour4=47.52 Wh (design capacity) hw.sensors.acpibat0.raw0=1 (battery full), OK hw.sensors.acpiac0.indicator0=Off (power supply) hw.sensors.acpibtn1.indicator0=On (lid open) On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Michael McConville wrote: > Jay Patel wrote: > > Hi, > > > > This is my dmesg : > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5ECiq648H2-UUNwZ0FlRzdJdWI0M1A0TURJLUVaS0dL bTV3/view?usp=sharing > > > > i got my wireless working iwn but i am unable to get firmware of my > > Ethernet. > > > > Regards, > > Jay > > Please just share the dmesg at the bottom of your email. Few or no > people able to help you with this are going to bother opening your Doc.
Re: Ethernet not working
Okay.. Thanks .. On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 01:53:33PM +0530, Jay Patel wrote: > > "Attansic Technology AR8172" rev 0x10 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 not > configured > > That's your ethernet device. The 'not configured' message means > there is no driver support in OpenBSD for this device yet. > > It looks like Linux has a driver for it, called alx. > > FreeBSD does not have a driver for this device either. > > It's possible that an entirely new driver must be written to make > this device work with OpenBSD. So this will take time and more > importantly someone who has the skill and motivation to write it. > > For now, you'll be happier using a supported USB ethernet adapter. > The axen(4) driver supports models currently being sold. > Some model names are listed here: > > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man4/axen.4?query=axen > > Or perhaps you can still find an older model supported by axe(4): > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man4/axe.4?query=axe > > Another option are devices supported by the generic USB Ethernet device > driver cdce(4). These devices use a standard USB interface so a custom > driver is not required. Apart from devices listed at > > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man4/cdce.4?query=cdce > the "Lenovo Thinkpad USB 3.0 Ethernet adapter" will also work with this.
Re: Ethernet not working
do we have a compatibility list somewhere ? or can we find via mandocs page? Thanks, On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Atanas Vladimirov wrote: > On 04.11.2015 11:44, Jonathan Gray wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 10:15:11AM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 01:53:33PM +0530, Jay Patel wrote: >>> > "Attansic Technology AR8172" rev 0x10 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 not >>> configured >>> >>> That's your ethernet device. The 'not configured' message means >>> there is no driver support in OpenBSD for this device yet. >>> >>> It looks like Linux has a driver for it, called alx. >>> >>> FreeBSD does not have a driver for this device either. >>> >> >> FreeBSD and NetBSD had sizable patches to alc(4) to support >> that and related variants. Anyone interested in making >> these parts work should look at those patches. >> > > Someone with good skills in programming can make better patch (as Jonathan > suggested from the following thread [0]). > > [0] http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=142774177502625&w=2
Re: output of pkg_check(1)
http://bsdguru.in/74/pkg_check-errors-openbsd-5-8 I hope this helps. On Thursday, November 26, 2015, Jan Stary wrote: > The output of "pkg_check -x -v -D nosig" > (full log bellow) on current/amd64 confuses me. > > Firstly, > > System libs NOT in locate dbs: > /usr/X11R6/lib/libEGL.so.0.0 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.15.0 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libglapi.so.0.0 > > but > > $ locate /usr/X11R6/lib/libEGL.so.0.0 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libEGL.so.0.0 > $ locate /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.15.0 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.15.0 > $ locate /usr/X11R6/lib/libglapi.so.0.0 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libglapi.so.0.0 > > and the files themselves exist. > In fact, /var/db/locate.database is an hour old. > > Does "not in locate dbs" mean something else? > Does pkg_check use the locate db instead of checking the files themselves? > > Why does pkg_check care about /usr/X11R6/lib, > and why exactly these three? Is it because some > installed package mentioned them as a dependency? > > > Next, there is a section of files "not found": > > Not found: > /boot > /bsd > /bsd.rd > /bsd.sp > /dload > ... > > None of these belongs to an installed package, obviously, > but why would pkg_check even consider them? Manpage says > >Other files > Checks that there are no other random objects under /usr/local. > > but this is not /usr/local. There is /var/spool etc > - seems like the whole / is traversed. > > > Lastly, > > In dbus-1.10.4v0:x11/dbus,-main: > /etc/machine-id > In libxml-2.9.2p3:textproc/libxml,-main: > /var/db/xmlcatalog > > Yes, these exist, and presumably belong those packages. > What about them? > > Jan > > > full script(1): > > # pkg_check -x -v -D nosig > System libs NOT in locate dbs: > /usr/X11R6/lib/libEGL.so.0.0 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.15.0 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libglapi.so.0.0 > > Not found: > /boot > /bsd > /bsd.rd > /bsd.sp > /dload > /etc/X11/app-defaults/GV > /etc/X11/app-defaults/Gnuplot > /etc/X11/xdm/authdir > /etc/examples/ftpchroot > /etc/examples/hosts.lpd > /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-autohint.conf > /etc/fstab > /etc/hostname.re0 > /etc/hosts > /etc/iked/local.pub > /etc/iked/private/local.key > /etc/isakmpd/local.pub > /etc/isakmpd/private/local.key > /etc/man.conf > /etc/mixerctl.conf > /etc/mixerctl.conf.onboard > /etc/mk.conf > /etc/mygate > /etc/myname > /etc/pkg.conf > /etc/random.seed > /etc/rc.conf.local > /etc/resolv.conf > /etc/resolv.conf.tail > /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key > /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub > /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ecdsa_key > /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ecdsa_key.pub > /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ed25519_key > /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ed25519_key.pub > /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key > /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub > /etc/usermgmt.conf > /media > /obsd > /pflogd.core > /root/.aucat_cookie > /root/.config > /root/.forward > /root/.ssh > /root/.viminfo > /root/.vimrc > /root/Mail > /root/OLD > /root/TODO > /root/man.conf > /root/manpages.BekKbaACeqGG > /root/manpages.Rc8jp6G_lwXv > /root/manpages.iZk17KSJKAbP > /root/manpages.qAjqJw7JLGpZ > /root/manpages.sCWRaNUv_HkX > /root/manpages.wDzeT7NkP2jH > /root/typescript > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/config > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/freetype.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftadvanc.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftbbox.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftbdf.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftbitmap.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftbzip2.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftcache.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftcffdrv.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftchapters.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftcid.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/fterrdef.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/fterrors.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftfntfmt.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftgasp.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftglyph.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftgxval.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftgzip.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftimage.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftincrem.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftlcdfil.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftlist.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftlzw.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftmac.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftmm.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftmodapi.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftmoderr.h > /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ftotval.h >
ddclient won't auto run on OpenBSD 5.8
Recently updated a router from 5.2 to 5.8. I had a working ddclient process connected to and fully working with DynDNS. Trying to use same config, may have to tweak just a bit. My main issue right now is trying to get the ddclient process to run upon booting. In 5.2, I had the following script in rc.local if [ -x /usr/local/sbin/ddclient ] ; then echo -n ' ddclient' /usr/local/sbin/ddclient -file /etc/ddclient/ddclient.conf fi This ran ddclient upon startup. I've tried the same thing in rc.conf.local with no joy, it won't start. I also commented that out and tried ddclient = "" and also ddclient = "-file /etc/ddclient/ddclient.conf" Upon every reboot ddclient is not running per a 'ps aux |grep dd' command. Not is there a pid file in /var/run ddclient will start manually. Looking for some guidance on getting this running please.
Re: for students or your children
HI ..hehe ya i know but its for kids :D and its not about fame and glory... On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 5:52 AM, Tobias Ulmer wrote: > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:03:50AM +0530, Jay Patel wrote: > > Hi all .. > > > > is OpenBSD taking part in google code-in : > > The answer is No, as far as I'm aware. Did you have a specific project in > mind? You can get fame and glory without participating in Google-sponsored > events :) > > > > > http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2012 > > > > Thanks, > > Jay.
Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD?
Rudeness is why people find openbsd hard for newbies; and potentially new funders of the projects and buyers of cds and merchandise. As a 5 year user ... apropos is a new page for me too. Thank you for the suggestion. Original message From: MichaŠMarkowski Date: To: Franco Fichtner Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: How to configure pppoe client on OpenBSD? 2013/1/13 Franco Fichtner : > There should be a let-me-find-that-man-page-for-you for that sort of thing Well, there is apropos(1). :) -- MichaŠMarkowski
Verizon FIOS, OpenBSD, and DHCP
Good evening. I am trying to replace the Verizon FIOS Actiontec router with a OpenBSD 5.2 box, and move from COAX to Cat5e at the same time. I've read the documentation for configuring dhcp/dhclient. I've set the external interface to "dhcp". I have a solid green link light on the interface (re0). When I attempted to cutover (Verizon reset the ONT, and I rebooted the box). I received the following feedback: DHCPDISCOVER on re0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 DHCPDISCOVER on re0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 DHCPDISCOVER on re0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9 DHCPDISCOVER on re0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9 DHCPDISCOVER on re0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 21 DHCPDISCOVER on re0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. I assumed the RJ-45 port was hot when it cutover. I now find that the COAX port is still hot (as the Actiontec router is still online) and therefore assume the cutover to RJ-45 was not done properly on their end. But I also wanted to know if a stock 5.2 distro work with FIOS and Cat5e or do I need to use ISC-dhcp somewhere in the process? Thanks in advance, Jay
Re: Verizon FIOS, OpenBSD, and DHCP
Solved this. It took Verizon three tries (three calls by me), to actually get the RJ-45 port working on the ONT. Jay > Good evening. > > I am trying to replace the Verizon FIOS Actiontec router with a OpenBSD 5.2 > box, and move from COAX to Cat5e at the same time. I've read the > documentation for configuring dhcp/dhclient. I've set the external interface > to "dhcp". I have a solid green link light on the interface (re0). > > When I attempted to cutover (Verizon reset the ONT, and I rebooted the box). I > received the following feedback: > > DHCPDISCOVER on re0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 > DHCPDISCOVER on re0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 > DHCPDISCOVER on re0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9 > DHCPDISCOVER on re0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9 > DHCPDISCOVER on re0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 21 > DHCPDISCOVER on re0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 > No DHCPOFFERS received. > No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. > > I assumed the RJ-45 port was hot when it cutover. I now find that the COAX > port is still hot (as the Actiontec router is still online) and therefore > assume the cutover to RJ-45 was not done properly on their end. > > But I also wanted to know if a stock 5.2 distro work with FIOS and Cat5e or do > I need to use ISC-dhcp somewhere in the process? > > Thanks in advance, > > Jay
Re: [NOTICE] BIOS update for Jetway NC9K series motherboard (64bit support)
Someone has a sense of humor: 5. Wait in suspense until the update finished Jay > Hello Misc! > > As there are probably other Jetway NC9K series motherboard owners in > the list, I'd like to share this information as it might come handy: > Jetway added support for EMT64 in the latest BIOS update and therefore > it is possible to run amd64 port of OpenBSD. > > Update adds 64bit support for the following motherboard models: > - NC9KDL-2700 > - NC9KDL-2550 > - NC9KSL-2500 > > More info: > http://www.jetwaycomputer.com/NC9K.html > > -- > Sincerely, > Ville Valkonen
Re: Seeking GUI refuge
Then you might also want to look into .. http://etoileos.com/etoile/
Vintage O'Reilly Books - OpenBSD Books
Looking to thin my book collection a bit. I have the following books I'm hoping to move to a better home: First Set: 1. Learning the Bash Shell, O'Reilly, 1st Edition, Oct 1995. 2. Mastering Regular Expressions, O'Reilly, 1st Edition, Nov 1997 printing 3. Programming Perl, O'Reilly, 2nd Edition, Sept 1996 4. Advanced Perl Programming, O'Reilly, 1st Edition, Aug 1997 5. TCP/IP Network Administration, O'Reilly, 2nd Edition, Jan 1998 I'm looking to get $40 for all five, international shipping extra. They are in great condition. Second Set: 1. Building Firewalls with OpenBSD and PF, Devguide.net by Jacek Artymiak , 2nd Edition, 2003. - Book physically intact, but has binding issues. 2. Secure Architectures with OpenBSD, Addison-Wesley, by Jose Nazario and Brandon Palmer, First Printing, April 2004. - Very Good Condition. 3. Absolute OpenBSD, Unix for the Practical Paranoid, No Starch, by Michael Lucas, 2003. - Very Good Condition. I'm looking to get $25 for the set, international shipping extra. Buy both sets for $60, plus shipping if international. Books are in USA. $15 donation to OpenBSD foundation if I sell both sets. Thanks for looking, Jay
Re: Forum software
Discourse is a popular option used by a number of open source projects. https://www.discourse.org -- Jay Williams > On Oct 24, 2017, at 1:30 PM, flipchan wrote: > > Grtz *! > Sry for going alittle bit off topic , me and a friend are trying to rebuild a > swedish openbsd forum (openbsd.se) it's been live since 2005 , and been > running punbb. > But punbb is not actively being developed and we wonder if anyone can > suggest a good forum software , we don't have time to write one from scratch > (both have full time jobs and kids and other stuff , but we want a swedish > openbsd forum to flurish) > > > Could anyone suggest some forum software that we can run? > > We are also thinking about posting tutorials on the site to help more ppl > find openbsd throw search engines. > > Take care all! > And thanks in advance > -- > Take Care Sincerely flipchan layerprox dev
Need to swap partitions: /tmp amd /usr
Good Evening Fellow OpenBSDers, Below is currently how I have my disk laid out partition wise. I have a feeling I need to swap /tmp and /usr in order to gain additional space for /usr. What is the best way to go about that? Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 1005M708M247M74%/ /dev/wd0k 22.7G 20.0K 21.6G 0%/home /dev/wd0d 3.9G 10.0K3.7G 0%/tmp /dev/wd0f 2.0G1.7G153M92%/usr /dev/wd0g 1005M227M728M24%/usr/X11R6 /dev/wd0h 6.8G 27.1M6.4G 0%/usr/local /dev/wd0j 3.9G293M3.5G 8%/usr/obj /dev/wd0i 3.9G852M2.9G22%/usr/src /dev/wd0e 6.3G 28.0M6.0G 0%/var Thanking you in advance, Jay
Re: The disconnected AC adapter affects Java application launch speed. (SqlDeveloper from Oracle)
Do you have apm enabled with the "-A" flag to enable automatic performance adjustment mode? You can run $ apm to see what it says. -- Jay Williams > On Nov 1, 2017, at 7:05 AM, dmitry.sensei wrote: > > Hi! > > Very slow start of the Java application (sqldeveloper) with the AC adapter > disconnected. When the adapter is paired - the speed is quite acceptable > > Laptop HP Probook 6470b > > OpenBSD 6.2 stable > > is this a known strangeness? is there a workaround for the problem? where > and how to look / check to see for yourself, if nothing will help > > -- > Dmitry Orlov
Re: Need to swap partitions: /tmp amd /usr
> On 2017-10-30, Jay Hart wrote: >> Good Evening Fellow OpenBSDers, >> >> Below is currently how I have my disk laid out partition wise. I have a >> feeling I need to swap >> /tmp and /usr in order to gain additional space for /usr. > >> /dev/wd0f 2.0G1.7G153M92%/usr > > That seems way too much for /usr. sysclean (in packages) will probably help > you identify some old files to remove. > > Stuart, A ton of files were identified, assume based on your reply I can just remove them with no issues? Jay
Re: Need to swap partitions: /tmp amd /usr
> On 2017/11/02 20:26, Jay Hart wrote: >> > On 2017-10-30, Jay Hart wrote: >> >> Good Evening Fellow OpenBSDers, >> >> >> >> Below is currently how I have my disk laid out partition wise. I have a >> >> feeling I need to >> swap >> >> /tmp and /usr in order to gain additional space for /usr. >> > >> >> /dev/wd0f 2.0G1.7G153M92%/usr >> > >> > That seems way too much for /usr. sysclean (in packages) will probably help >> > you identify some old files to remove. >> > >> > >> >> Stuart, >> >> A ton of files were identified, assume based on your reply I can just remove >> them with no >> issues? > > Things that sysclean finds under /usr are generally ok, if you've done > a few OS updates you will have a bunch of old gcc-related files, perl > binare modules from past versions, dead manual pages, etc. > > I would suggest loading into an editor, sorting, reviewing the list. > sysclean is aware of known ports files but there are some things like > optional config files that it can't know about, so watch out for those > (but usually not in /etc). If you're not confident you can tar them up > rather than removing outright. > > Stuart, Thanks for telling me about sysclean, I was not aware of this utility before. I've run sysclean and removed over 280 files/directories. and have improved free space quite a bit, but still seem to think I've an issue with /usr. Right now I have a clean 6.2 base system, but still have the source code tree installed for 6.1. Usually I just wipe /usr/src and /usr/obj, but I'm thinking I need to find a better way to manage /usr space. Can you instruct me a bit on what I should do with /usr (and all subdirectories) upon upgrading from one version to another. Here is my free space according to df after running sysclean and cleaning up those files/directories: Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 1005M 63.4M891M 7%/ /dev/wd0k 22.7G321M 21.3G 1%/home /dev/wd0d 3.9G 12.0K3.7G 0%/tmp /dev/wd0f 2.0G1.6G274M86%/usr /dev/wd0g 1005M183M771M19%/usr/X11R6 /dev/wd0h 6.8G 27.1M 6.4G 0%/usr/local /dev/wd0j 3.9G293M3.5G 8%/usr/obj /dev/wd0i 3.9G852M2.9G22%/usr/src /dev/wd0e 6.3G 28.1M6.0G 0%/var TIA, Jay
Re: Need to swap partitions: /tmp amd /usr
> On 2017-11-05, Jay Hart wrote: >>> On 2017/11/02 20:26, Jay Hart wrote: >>>> > On 2017-10-30, Jay Hart wrote: >>>> >> Good Evening Fellow OpenBSDers, >>>> >> >>>> >> Below is currently how I have my disk laid out partition wise. I have >>>> >> a feeling I need to >>>> swap >>>> >> /tmp and /usr in order to gain additional space for /usr. >>>> > >>>> >> /dev/wd0f 2.0G1.7G153M92%/usr >>>> > >>>> > That seems way too much for /usr. sysclean (in packages) will probably >>>> > help >>>> > you identify some old files to remove. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> Stuart, >>>> >>>> A ton of files were identified, assume based on your reply I can just >>>> remove them with no >>>> issues? >>> >>> Things that sysclean finds under /usr are generally ok, if you've done >>> a few OS updates you will have a bunch of old gcc-related files, perl >>> binare modules from past versions, dead manual pages, etc. >>> >>> I would suggest loading into an editor, sorting, reviewing the list. >>> sysclean is aware of known ports files but there are some things like >>> optional config files that it can't know about, so watch out for those >>> (but usually not in /etc). If you're not confident you can tar them up >>> rather than removing outright. >>> >>> >> >> Stuart, >> >> Thanks for telling me about sysclean, I was not aware of this utility >> before. I've run sysclean >> and removed over 280 files/directories. and have improved free space quite a >> bit, but still seem >> to think I've an issue with /usr. >> >> Right now I have a clean 6.2 base system, but still have the source code >> tree installed for 6.1. >> Usually I just wipe /usr/src and /usr/obj, but I'm thinking I need to find a >> better way to >> manage >> /usr space. Can you instruct me a bit on what I should do with /usr (and >> all subdirectories) >> upon >> upgrading from one version to another. >> >> Here is my free space according to df after running sysclean and cleaning up >> those >> files/directories: >> >> Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on >> /dev/wd0a 1005M 63.4M891M 7%/ >> /dev/wd0k 22.7G321M 21.3G 1%/home >> /dev/wd0d 3.9G 12.0K3.7G 0%/tmp >> /dev/wd0f 2.0G1.6G274M86%/usr >> /dev/wd0g 1005M183M771M19%/usr/X11R6 >> /dev/wd0h 6.8G 27.1M6.4G 0%/usr/local >> /dev/wd0j 3.9G293M3.5G 8%/usr/obj >> /dev/wd0i 3.9G852M2.9G22%/usr/src >> /dev/wd0e 6.3G 28.1M6.0G 0%/var > > 1.6GB used in /usr still seems a bit high. Do you have the ports tree > installed > there? Normally I'd recommend a separate partition for that. If not, you'll > need > to figure out what's using the space. > Stuart, I do have the ports tree installed on /usr. To help break this down a bit, I ran 'du -hs' on each subdirectory of /usr, and here is size breakdown: /usr/X11R6183M *separate partition /usr/bin 112M /usr/games2.0k /usr/include 25.5M /usr/lib 169M /usr/libdata 39.9M /usr/libexec 38.4M /usr/local27.1M *separate partition /usr/mdec 314k /usr/obj 293M *separate partition /usr/ports382M /usr/sbin 17.3M /usr/share231M /usr/src 852M *separate partition /usr/xenocara 657M /usr/xobj 3.1M Totaling everything that should be on the /usr partition, is just over 1.6GB. This seems to confirm df -h totals shown above. I have the 6.1 src, sys, ports, and xenocara gz files all untarred and installed. Again, thanks for your time. Jay
Re: httpd(8) questions
Also Will this be compatible with Webmin panel? On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Daniel Jakots wrote: > Hi, > > I begin to play with httpd, but I found three annoying things: > > I use it on my laptop for two things, have a local mirror of OpenBSD > website and provide some files to other computers in the network. > > I set up a server: > server "default" { > listen on egress port 80 > directory auto index > root "/var/www/" > } > > But it won't listen on localhost. So is there any easy way to do it? > I mean the equivalent way of nginx: > server { > listen 80; > listen [::]:80; > blah > and without having to do > server "anotherdefault" { > listen on 127.0.0.1 port 80 > blah > } > > Another question is, if I put "listen on localhost", httpd -dnv tells > me: > "host_dns: localhost resolves to more than 1 hosts" > and then it listens only on ::1 and not on 127.0.0.1 (the order is > normal, I guess, because "family inet6 inet4" in resolv.conf) and I > think both should be listened on, no ? > > > The other problems I encounter are with auto index. > First thing: > /var/www/htdocs$ ls > adirwith aspace/ > /var/www/htdocs/adirwith aspace$ ls > foo > > Then I go to http://127.0.0.1/ and I click on "adir withaspace" it > leads me to http://127.0.0.1/adirwith%20aspace > which tells me (with firefox or lynx) > Not Found > /adirwith%20aspace > > > The second thing: > /var/www/htdocs/pub$ ls -R > OpenBSD/ > > ./OpenBSD: > 5.5/ > > ./OpenBSD/5.5: > i386/ > > ./OpenBSD/5.5/i386: > INSTALL.i386 base55.tgz cd55.iso etc55.tgz > game55.tgz install55.iso xbase55.tgzxshare55.tgz > INSTALL.linux bsdcdboot floppy55.fs > index.html man55.tgz xetc55.tgz > SHA256 bsd.mp cdbr floppyB55.fs > index.txt miniroot55.fs xfont55.tgz > SHA256.sig bsd.rd comp55.tgz floppyC55.fs > install55.fs pxebootxserv55.tgz > > Then I go to http://127.0.0.1/ and click on the right dir until I'm in > http://127.0.0.1/pub/OpenBSD/5.5/i386/ and then I click on "../" which > leads me http://127.0.0.1/pub/OpenBSD/5.5/index.html but as there is no > index.html, I got: > Not Found > /pub/OpenBSD/5.5/index.html > > If I manually remove the "index.html" from the url, it works, of course. > > > I use the snapshot from Thursday (iirc), on amd64. > > Cheers, > -- > Daniel
BBM Channel
Hi all, All are welcome to check out "OpenBSD" channel on BBM messenger on all platform to stay connected. :) Regards, Jay.
Re: Why are there no PKG_PATH defaults?
I think leave this to devs. to decide what they should and what they shouldn't provide. :) All we can do is remember "echo installpath=ftp://ftp5.usa.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/$(uname -r)/packages/$(uname -m) | sudo tee /etc/pkg.conf" On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:15 PM, wrote: > > OpenBSD solution is to ask the user to choose a mirror at > installation time. > > I don't see this preference being remembered after the installation > though. > > O.D. > > On 23. september 2014 at 1:25 PM, "ludovic coues" wrote:> why aren't > there any sane PKG_PATH defaults? Ie.: > > > > release=$(uname -r) > > architecture=$(uname -p) > > > > export > > > PKG_PATH= > ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/${release}/packages/${architecture}/ > > The point of such default would be to not change the server, resulting > in a big load on it. > > Such problem prompted archlinux to throttle their main repository > server to force user to choose a mirror more adapted to geographic > situation. OpenBSD solution is to ask the user to choose a mirror at > installation time. > > -- > > Cordialement, Coues Ludovic > +336 148 743 42
Re: Android Studio
We should have our own Phone OS. :D :) just like Nokia 3310 series. I would like that . just call , sms, and alarm. I make living making android apps also but i hope SDK don't come to OpenBSD. On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=132934643309355&w=2 > > That thread mentions getting the Android emulator running and creating > a hello world program on OpenBSD but I think required? linux emulation > and so i386 and copying from a linux install. > > A recent Intellij is in ports which Android Studio Beta is based on and > whilst I hope Gnome/KDE requirments for Linux are mis-prints and not on > the OSX version maybe there's a chance it will work without Linux > emulation like netbeans does compared to the pain of recompiling > eclipse.
http://www.oshwa.org
Anyone following http://www.oshwa.org for blob free hardware? Thanks.
Amazing Encryption
I found this article its amazing ... http://mysteriesexplored.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/amazing-encryption-technology-in-ancient-india-the-katapayadi-shankya/ :)
Changing MTU size
For reasons beyond my control and if I want to continue running my own email server, I need to change the MTU size to max of 1476. I ran "ifconfig re1 mtu 1476", and this command took, ifconfig reported mtu size of 1476. Re1 is setup using dhcp and I want to know how to make this (mtu size 1476) a permanent parameter upon rebooting. Thanks for your time, Jay
Re: nobody spoke up, about today?
Happy Birthday... On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 8:05 AM, STeve Andre' wrote: > Happy birthday, OpenBSD!
Re: audio in linux emulation, skype & friends
Try https://jitsi.org/ or tox https://tox.im/ Hope this helps. On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: > I thought that linux emulation has partial oss audio support which > would allow to run skype on openbsd. While searching for more > information, it appears that audio doesn't work in skype since at > least 7 years. See: > > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=119039040500478 > > More "recent" versions don't even use oss audio. So what linux > binaries do have working oss audio in linux emulation? Has anyone > ever managed to use audio in linux emulation? > > I belive there are none and corresponding kernel bits could go to > the attic. > > Thoughts? > > -- Alexandre
iked & CRL's
Anyone had any problems getting iked to adhere to revoked certificates? I can log in with a valid cert but can also log in using the same cert after it's been revoked using # ikectl ca vpn certificate xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx revoke . I tried restarting iked but it still behaved the same. Any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA
Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...
HEHEHEHE someone from time to time posts like this without any references and links if you can prove there's backdoor. i will remove OpenBSD. prove it nut head. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Thomas Jennings < thomas.jennings...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear OpenBSD developers and users: > > Regretfully, I have decided to abandon OpenBSD and thought I would > share my reasoning with this list. I thought the 4th of July was a > good date to do so since my reasons address national security > implications. As a group of people who take development, security, and > privacy seriously, I know you will want to know why I made the drastic > decision to abandon OpenBSD and never look back. > > I'm sure we've all heard of PRISM by now, the user-friendly name of > the United States Federal Government's massive civilian and resident > spying program otherwise known as US-984XN. PRISM is certainly bad > enough of its own accord, but it's how PRISM works, and the pattern of > behavior found in OpenBSD development, that was the tipping point for > my use of OpenBSD. > > And we all know Theo de Raadt, OpenBSD generalissimo of much infamy. > After being fired from the NetBSD team, Theo forked the code and > started OpenBSD. He's been pretty much solely responsible for > development of OpenBSD over the years, taking volunteer code as he > sees fit. He also has final say over security audits in the operating > system, something that turns out to be very important. > > I was prepping to migrate the whole of our shop, a regional ISP in the > United States of America, to OpenBSD 5.3 when the news broke: CBS News > reporter Sharyl Attkisson claimed, during a live radio interview, that > she had been dealing with suspicious computer and phone issues. Check > out this snippet from the full transcript of the interview. One line > in particular trashed my plans for the OpenBSD upgrade: > > > Well, I have been, as I said, pursuing an issue for a long time now > much longer > > than youve been hearing about this in the news with some compromising > of my > > computer systems in my house my personal computer systems as well as my > > work computer systems. I thought they were immune to being compromised > > because they all ran OpenBSD but I guess I was wrong. So, were > digging into > > that and just not ready to say much more right now, but I am concerned. > > Since that interview in May, I've watched story after story of direct > server access, PRISM, and NSA spying and connected some dots. For > example, consider the accusations that the FBI had been accused of > planting backdoors in OpenBSD's IPSEC in December of 2012, and that > the accusations later proved true. The two scandals broke 18 only > months apart. > > Consider that PRISM allows the United States Federal Government to > directly access the servers of virtually any company doing online > business, including tech giants like Apple, Facebook, Google, and > Microsoft. But those same tech giants deny complicity. I'm sure we all > agree that personal privacy is beyond the scope of private enterprise, > but let's assume their denials are true. Then connect more dots: > > OpenBSD has shipped on over half of all network devices, including > things like routers, switches, gateways, and servers, for the last six > years. The current estimated number of OpenBSD installations sits at > over 350 million devices, comprising an almost ubiquitous presence of > OpenBSD in networks worldwide. > > EVEN IF NO CORPORATION OFFERS THE UNITED STATE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT > DIRECT ACCESS TO ITS SERVERS THROUGH PRISM, OPENBSD OFFERS THAT SAME > ACCESS THROUGH THE PRESENCE OF ITS BACKDOORS. > > There it is. Let it sink in. Words like Gestapo and Stasi and KGB come > to mind. OpenBSD is part and parcel to the United States Federal > Government's program to spy on its own citizens through bodies like > the NSA and FBI and has been since the FBI paid for backdoors in IPSEC > about a dozen years ago. > > Yesterday, I told the company that we must migrate all our services > from OpenBSD to something else because the risk to our customers' > privacy and security is simply unacceptable. Theo de Raadt may seem > like some kind of guard dog of security, but he's really just a little > bitch bought and sold by the United State Federal Government. > > The kicker is that Theo denies anything suggesting that OpenBSD is > less than perfect at security, as if he's personally offended by the > mere suggestion. He routinely attacks developers and enthusiasts for > simply asking questions. WHY SO TOUCHY, THEO? COULD IT BE BECAUSE > YOU'RE COMPLICIT IN THE BIGGEST CITIZEN SPYING PROGRAM EVER RUN IN THE > HISTORY OF THE WORLD?! > > Today, be a true patriot to the ideals of personal privacy and public > liberty: prevent and reject any and all use of OpenBSD. > > Happy 4th of July.
Re: SSH as root with specific IP
ssh -lroot youriphere -p1157 -l ==login -p == port number On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM, John Tate wrote: > I want to be able to log in as root by SSH with a specific IP address. > This is so rsync can log in to the server easily and backup many files > owned by many different users and groups. Rather than a script on the > server logging into the server with the backups with many files and > many different users. > > Can it be done? > > -- > www.johntate.org