Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 10:11:30AM -0500, J Moore wrote: > Doesn't 'audacity' concatenate mp3 files? Thanks for the suggestion. Lots of feedback now. Too bad it didn't come around 3 months ago. I've made my own tools now and it's a lot of fun. Just made an MP3 proxy/multiplexer that takes a stream and multiplexes it for multiple connections on the same stream. A multicast version is coming up for LAN's and multicast capable WANS. Watch the next few entries in my blog for the source of this and explaining how I do this. Whenever something comes up I go the hard way, it seems to be that way in my entire lifespan. However I keep my sovereignty on whatever that way. -p -- Here my ticker tape .signature My name is Peter Philipp lynx -dump "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pufferfish&oldid=20768394"; | sed -n 131,137p http://centroid.eu So long and thanks for all the fish!!!
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
Doesn't 'audacity' concatenate mp3 files? On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 09:46:48PM +0300, the unit calling itself Peter Philipp wrote: > On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 11:41:43PM +0300, Peter Philipp wrote: > > license for your own programs. Now all I gotta do is bang out my program > > based on this info. :-) > > Just a followup on this, I did bang out this program and have been spending > the greater part of the day re-concatenating my old mp3 clips. Remember my > original need for this, I disconnect/reconnect my pppoe every minute. This > gives me a new IP every minute. Since there is an overlap on the MP3 > streaming server I'm able to concatenate the pieces together based on a > series of checksums that are part of the MP3 format. If you would like > to see my program you can download it from > > https://ssl-id.de/centroid.eu/peter/merge-mp3-clips.c > > [checksum: MD5 (src/misc/merge-mp3-clips.c) = > 9281305ab48233aa86d2df3c184b0b93 ] > > To make it use for your stuff it probably needs a bit of editing/hardcoding. > I hardcoded the directories and the files have the format "ckln.`date +"%s"`". > > The listening of this is a pleasure again without skips, repeats and > screeches. > > This program can also be used for groups on the Internet. Say you want to > protect your identity from MP3 streaming vendors and have a few friends on > the Internet you can all download a minute of listening at different offsets > in time (crontabbed perhaps?) and then change your IP. During the download > of the stream you don't do any network activity, that way noone can > correlate your IP to any other service on the Internet (prior to the download > you also change IP). At the end of each download the MP3 clip is uploaded > to a central server or on a P2P network and re-assembled with similar > programs such as this for your uninterupted listening pleasure. > > This pretty well protects your privacy globally and noone can be sure who > is listening into a certain program for a long time, noone can proove that > you are interested in a certain topic/discussion (say if someone talks about > coups, rebellions, dissent), all they'll be able to tell is that someone > listened for a minute and then had enough (hardly incriminating them in > orwellian societies/states). > > Have fun! > > -peter > > -- > Here my ticker tape .signature My name is Peter Philipp lynx -dump > "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pufferfish&oldid=20768394"; | sed > -n 131,137p http://centroid.eu So long and thanks for all the > fish!!!
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 11:41:43PM +0300, Peter Philipp wrote: > license for your own programs. Now all I gotta do is bang out my program > based on this info. :-) Just a followup on this, I did bang out this program and have been spending the greater part of the day re-concatenating my old mp3 clips. Remember my original need for this, I disconnect/reconnect my pppoe every minute. This gives me a new IP every minute. Since there is an overlap on the MP3 streaming server I'm able to concatenate the pieces together based on a series of checksums that are part of the MP3 format. If you would like to see my program you can download it from https://ssl-id.de/centroid.eu/peter/merge-mp3-clips.c [checksum: MD5 (src/misc/merge-mp3-clips.c) = 9281305ab48233aa86d2df3c184b0b93 ] To make it use for your stuff it probably needs a bit of editing/hardcoding. I hardcoded the directories and the files have the format "ckln.`date +"%s"`". The listening of this is a pleasure again without skips, repeats and screeches. This program can also be used for groups on the Internet. Say you want to protect your identity from MP3 streaming vendors and have a few friends on the Internet you can all download a minute of listening at different offsets in time (crontabbed perhaps?) and then change your IP. During the download of the stream you don't do any network activity, that way noone can correlate your IP to any other service on the Internet (prior to the download you also change IP). At the end of each download the MP3 clip is uploaded to a central server or on a P2P network and re-assembled with similar programs such as this for your uninterupted listening pleasure. This pretty well protects your privacy globally and noone can be sure who is listening into a certain program for a long time, noone can proove that you are interested in a certain topic/discussion (say if someone talks about coups, rebellions, dissent), all they'll be able to tell is that someone listened for a minute and then had enough (hardly incriminating them in orwellian societies/states). Have fun! -peter -- Here my ticker tape .signature My name is Peter Philipp lynx -dump "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pufferfish&oldid=20768394"; | sed -n 131,137p http://centroid.eu So long and thanks for all the fish!!!
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
Okay, I can't believe I'm contributing to this noise, but ... I'm not sure I ever read where the OP said anything about going through an ISP. What happens if they're shuffling through a plethora of open wireless access points? The DHCP requests are going to get various private IP's that the AP's provide to the internal NAT'd boxes. If I put a biquad antenna at the focal point of an 18" DBS/DSS satellite dish the available AP's can greatly increase. just a thought ...
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On 7/17/06, Pawel S. Veselov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [ skipped ] On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 01:22:51AM +0200, Peter Philipp wrote: >> Just from the fact that you make all those request for new leases makes you >> stand out. >And? The ISP cannot do anything. They can write a new clause to their EULA >that re-connecting within X amount of time is excessive and forbidden, and >notify the customer on that, so that they may adjust their settings. Comcast, cable service. Request new IP as much as you want, you gonna get the same one. May be the xDSL people need to patch their software to cache MAC addresses or physical connection identifier. What does this mean? What good would 'caching MAC addresses' any more than is currently done (since it is already done by dhcpd) do? If I were an ISP admin, and I found out there is somone requesting a new IP every minute (or every hour for that matter), the first thing I'd do is I'd start looking how to prevent it. Why? There's no way to stop people sending out random IP packets without you imposing some sort of dictatorial tax, and that would not go over well with the customers. It's not that much traffic in the grand scheme of the intarwebz, is it? Why would you go to that trouble? -- Pawel S. Veselov [vps], Sun Microsystems, Inc. Staff Engineer, Java Mobile Systems and Services Engineering __ __(O) _ __ e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ V /| || ' \ HomePage: http://manticore.2y.net\_/ |_||_|_|_| Oh. ^
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
[ skipped ] On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 01:22:51AM +0200, Peter Philipp wrote: >> Just from the fact that you make all those request for new leases makes you >> stand out. >And? The ISP cannot do anything. They can write a new clause to their EULA >that re-connecting within X amount of time is excessive and forbidden, and >notify the customer on that, so that they may adjust their settings. Comcast, cable service. Request new IP as much as you want, you gonna get the same one. May be the xDSL people need to patch their software to cache MAC addresses or physical connection identifier. If I were an ISP admin, and I found out there is somone requesting a new IP every minute (or every hour for that matter), the first thing I'd do is I'd start looking how to prevent it. [ skipped ] Thanks, Pawel. Bye. -- Pawel S. Veselov [vps], Sun Microsystems, Inc. Staff Engineer, Java Mobile Systems and Services Engineering __ __(O) _ __ e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ V /| || ' \ HomePage: http://manticore.2y.net\_/ |_||_|_|_|
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
thus Pawel S. Veselov spake: On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 04:26:55PM +0200, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: [ skipped ] All you achieve with this idiotic idea is that you get the providers attention because you spam their logs and they'll propably cancel the contract because of abuse. Heh, have you ever tried calling an ISP ? I mean big ISP, and you calling with a technical question ? depends on who's calling, a guy with a 56k dialup or 25Mbps DSLame or someone with a bunch of E3/T3s... Gives you perspective on what kinda staff runs the ISPs these days. Also, how many new leases are requested from this provider every minute ? Would another one count ? Don't think so. that's one side of the coin. the other one is that surely monitoring of these services takes place and one can clearly see his line at the DSLAM causing requests for a new lease on a per-minute basis. that's not a 'resource problem' at that moment, but should cause the raise of attention. (a single virus is no problem for your body and immune system; however, it will immediately start its defense. same should apply to the ISP.) Having service terminated because of an illegal client behavior is the least likely thing to happen nowadays. err, you read those news on the net? why do ISPs block port 25? why do they implement traffic shaping? why do they force customers to use transparent proxies? etc. Hey, they don't care if your compulter is loaded with viruses that redistribute themselves like crazy. why should they? that'd mean surveillance at L6/7 which is nonsense (at least, you're not the NSA etc.). they can max out their line, that's all. Or if you are sending spam. not causing waste of resources beyond the line. No one is watching your connection, unless someone comes to your ISP with a warrant of sorts. ISP needs your 30 bucks a month more than they need anything else. nah, that's a bad argument. abuse is abuse, no matter what the customer pays -- if he violates what's part of the contract, the ISP can do what it wants to stop it. [ skipped ] Thanks, Pawel. P.S. This thread needs a new name dying threads don't need new subjects ;) P.P.S. lol, no one from this list works for an ISP ? :) i think there indeed are people working for ISPs. :)
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 04:26:55PM +0200, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: [ skipped ] >All you achieve with this idiotic idea is that you get the providers >attention because you spam their logs and they'll propably cancel the >contract because of abuse. Heh, have you ever tried calling an ISP ? I mean big ISP, and you calling with a technical question ? Gives you perspective on what kinda staff runs the ISPs these days. Also, how many new leases are requested from this provider every minute ? Would another one count ? Don't think so. Having service terminated because of an illegal client behavior is the least likely thing to happen nowadays. Hey, they don't care if your compulter is loaded with viruses that redistribute themselves like crazy. Or if you are sending spam. No one is watching your connection, unless someone comes to your ISP with a warrant of sorts. ISP needs your 30 bucks a month more than they need anything else. [ skipped ] Thanks, Pawel. P.S. This thread needs a new name P.P.S. lol, no one from this list works for an ISP ? :)
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
Very enteraining.
Thanks all for brightening my morning
On 7/17/06, Rod.. Whitworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 05:53:04 -0400, Marcus Watts wrote:
>
> >Randomness leading up to
> >> > There are no useful answers for idiots.
> >>
> >> I like that phrase, I'll have to remember that one.
> >
> >Just for the hell of it, I'll try offering a few
> >useless answers.
> >
> > { it's clear the originator isn't worried about secrecy
> > or anonymity, given he's using a remote radius server
> > and asked for help in a public forum. }
> >
> > { if he *was* interested in privacy & anonymity, surely he'd
> > be exploring broadcast or unidirectional protocols such as
> > digital radio mondiale and not asking us questions. }
> >
> >1. I'm pretty sure Vincent Cerf didn't intend for any tcp protocols to
> >survive changing the IP address every minute. Although a lot of his
> >work seems to have involved machines that were too heavy to carry and
> >too expensive to re-address every minute, he appears to have
> >nevertheless been keenly interested in mobile computing & radio use
> >before either were common. I've no doubt he'd be amused by the
> >originator's attempt, though I doubt he'd be supportive. The problem
> >does sound remarkably like a "worst case" roaming scenario with
> >wireless IP. Maybe something involving a revolving restaurant?
> >
> > { Since the originator of this thread appears to have been
> > relying on what are presumably non-dedicated data circuits &
> > shared servers, his connections are subject to random delay
> > depending on competition from other user(s) of those services.
> > Excessive delay will surely lead to lost data, and snippets
> > that cannot be pasted together without weirdness.
> > Presumably those delays will get worse with time... }
> >
> >2. If you *were* trying to piece together a reliable data feed
> >out of very short snippets, you'd probably have much better luck
> >if you managed up to *two* separate overlapping connections --
> >dropping one once you've sync'd up with the other. Dropping
> >duplicated data is easier than recreating lost data.
> >
> >3. If you wanted to use internet protocols to give you a reliable
> >feed (instead of making one yourself as in 2), you'll want to run
> >a vpn on top of your physical connection, so that you can then
> >use tcp to manage packet drops due to the underlying connection
> >randomly disappearing.
> >
> >4. "sox" will concatenate mp3 input's together. You'd then need to
> >re-encode the output stream using some mp3 encoder. sox won't
> >be capable of recovering data lost due to network drops,
> >and it's not going to help you with pasting snippets together either.
> >There is tons of other audio software that can do the same thing,
> >with variable amounts of fluff and bother.
> >
> >5. There are a bunch of people who are very keen on matching audio
> >fragments up. Some phrases they like to use are "audio finger-printing",
> >or "automatic music identification". Unfortunately these are also the
> >very same people who tend to be real keen on proprietary data &
> >software techniques. Fortunately for you, the patent process is
> >"supposed" to encourage people to provide sufficient information to
> >make it possible to make experimental use of patented technology.
> >Unfortunately for you, "supposed to" to a lawyer is rather like what
> >"possible" means to a mathematician who is asked if the product
> >of large primes can be factored.
> >
> > -Marcus Watts
>
> What a beautiful piece of writing.
>
> There are chunks that I cannot claim expertise on. Even they sound
> plausible (in the non-derogatory sense) and the bits that I do know
> about seem consistant with reality.
>
> Marcus, it was a joy to read a well constructed essay with no ad
> hominem bits that should, but I would not bet my lefty on it, be the
> end of this tiresome thread. Or at least the end of the discursive
> part, you may see other compliments. ;-)
>
>
>
> From the land "down under": Australia.
> Do we look from up over?
>
> Do NOT CC me - I am subscribed to the list.
> Replies to the sender address will fail except from the list-server.
> Your IP address will also be greytrapped for 24 hours after any attempt.
> I am continually amazed by the people who run OpenBSD who don't take this
> advice. I always expected a smarter class. I guess not.
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 05:53:04 -0400, Marcus Watts wrote:
>Randomness leading up to
>> > There are no useful answers for idiots.
>>
>> I like that phrase, I'll have to remember that one.
>
>Just for the hell of it, I'll try offering a few
>useless answers.
>
> { it's clear the originator isn't worried about secrecy
> or anonymity, given he's using a remote radius server
> and asked for help in a public forum. }
>
> { if he *was* interested in privacy & anonymity, surely he'd
> be exploring broadcast or unidirectional protocols such as
> digital radio mondiale and not asking us questions. }
>
>1. I'm pretty sure Vincent Cerf didn't intend for any tcp protocols to
>survive changing the IP address every minute. Although a lot of his
>work seems to have involved machines that were too heavy to carry and
>too expensive to re-address every minute, he appears to have
>nevertheless been keenly interested in mobile computing & radio use
>before either were common. I've no doubt he'd be amused by the
>originator's attempt, though I doubt he'd be supportive. The problem
>does sound remarkably like a "worst case" roaming scenario with
>wireless IP. Maybe something involving a revolving restaurant?
>
> { Since the originator of this thread appears to have been
> relying on what are presumably non-dedicated data circuits &
> shared servers, his connections are subject to random delay
> depending on competition from other user(s) of those services.
> Excessive delay will surely lead to lost data, and snippets
> that cannot be pasted together without weirdness.
> Presumably those delays will get worse with time... }
>
>2. If you *were* trying to piece together a reliable data feed
>out of very short snippets, you'd probably have much better luck
>if you managed up to *two* separate overlapping connections --
>dropping one once you've sync'd up with the other. Dropping
>duplicated data is easier than recreating lost data.
>
>3. If you wanted to use internet protocols to give you a reliable
>feed (instead of making one yourself as in 2), you'll want to run
>a vpn on top of your physical connection, so that you can then
>use tcp to manage packet drops due to the underlying connection
>randomly disappearing.
>
>4. "sox" will concatenate mp3 input's together. You'd then need to
>re-encode the output stream using some mp3 encoder. sox won't
>be capable of recovering data lost due to network drops,
>and it's not going to help you with pasting snippets together either.
>There is tons of other audio software that can do the same thing,
>with variable amounts of fluff and bother.
>
>5. There are a bunch of people who are very keen on matching audio
>fragments up. Some phrases they like to use are "audio finger-printing",
>or "automatic music identification". Unfortunately these are also the
>very same people who tend to be real keen on proprietary data &
>software techniques. Fortunately for you, the patent process is
>"supposed" to encourage people to provide sufficient information to
>make it possible to make experimental use of patented technology.
>Unfortunately for you, "supposed to" to a lawyer is rather like what
>"possible" means to a mathematician who is asked if the product
>of large primes can be factored.
>
> -Marcus Watts
What a beautiful piece of writing.
There are chunks that I cannot claim expertise on. Even they sound
plausible (in the non-derogatory sense) and the bits that I do know
about seem consistant with reality.
Marcus, it was a joy to read a well constructed essay with no ad
hominem bits that should, but I would not bet my lefty on it, be the
end of this tiresome thread. Or at least the end of the discursive
part, you may see other compliments. ;-)
>From the land "down under": Australia.
Do we look from up over?
Do NOT CC me - I am subscribed to the list.
Replies to the sender address will fail except from the list-server.
Your IP address will also be greytrapped for 24 hours after any attempt.
I am continually amazed by the people who run OpenBSD who don't take this
advice. I always expected a smarter class. I guess not.
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
Randomness leading up to
> > There are no useful answers for idiots.
>
> I like that phrase, I'll have to remember that one.
Just for the hell of it, I'll try offering a few
useless answers.
{ it's clear the originator isn't worried about secrecy
or anonymity, given he's using a remote radius server
and asked for help in a public forum. }
{ if he *was* interested in privacy & anonymity, surely he'd
be exploring broadcast or unidirectional protocols such as
digital radio mondiale and not asking us questions. }
1. I'm pretty sure Vincent Cerf didn't intend for any tcp protocols to
survive changing the IP address every minute. Although a lot of his
work seems to have involved machines that were too heavy to carry and
too expensive to re-address every minute, he appears to have
nevertheless been keenly interested in mobile computing & radio use
before either were common. I've no doubt he'd be amused by the
originator's attempt, though I doubt he'd be supportive. The problem
does sound remarkably like a "worst case" roaming scenario with
wireless IP. Maybe something involving a revolving restaurant?
{ Since the originator of this thread appears to have been
relying on what are presumably non-dedicated data circuits &
shared servers, his connections are subject to random delay
depending on competition from other user(s) of those services.
Excessive delay will surely lead to lost data, and snippets
that cannot be pasted together without weirdness.
Presumably those delays will get worse with time... }
2. If you *were* trying to piece together a reliable data feed
out of very short snippets, you'd probably have much better luck
if you managed up to *two* separate overlapping connections --
dropping one once you've sync'd up with the other. Dropping
duplicated data is easier than recreating lost data.
3. If you wanted to use internet protocols to give you a reliable
feed (instead of making one yourself as in 2), you'll want to run
a vpn on top of your physical connection, so that you can then
use tcp to manage packet drops due to the underlying connection
randomly disappearing.
4. "sox" will concatenate mp3 input's together. You'd then need to
re-encode the output stream using some mp3 encoder. sox won't
be capable of recovering data lost due to network drops,
and it's not going to help you with pasting snippets together either.
There is tons of other audio software that can do the same thing,
with variable amounts of fluff and bother.
5. There are a bunch of people who are very keen on matching audio
fragments up. Some phrases they like to use are "audio finger-printing",
or "automatic music identification". Unfortunately these are also the
very same people who tend to be real keen on proprietary data &
software techniques. Fortunately for you, the patent process is
"supposed" to encourage people to provide sufficient information to
make it possible to make experimental use of patented technology.
Unfortunately for you, "supposed to" to a lawyer is rather like what
"possible" means to a mathematician who is asked if the product
of large primes can be factored.
-Marcus Watts
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
> There are no useful answers for idiots. I like that phrase, I'll have to remember that one.
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
thus Jonathan Schleifer spake: Peter Philipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh did I say I change my MAC? Since it takes so long for the modem to learn it, I only do this on a daily basis. But I don't expect you to copy my behaviour or anything... That won't change anything. The provider keeps your telephon number. Or do you want to order a new telephon number every day? *lol* he certainly has a cell phone as almost every german has (all those beings forced into consuming stuff :D). if he know that they can track him very accurate? All you achieve with this idiotic idea is that you get the providers attention because you spam their logs and they'll propably cancel the contract because of abuse. he won't understand. there were several tries. You too are just jealous. That's one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard so far. Are you really thinking that someone could be joulous of such an idiotic idea? no, this 'you are jealous' is just an 'one size fits all' complaint of (german) neocons. when somebody complains about unjust distribution of money on planet earth, even the starving are just 'jealous'. i wonder why they don't say 'you are just jealous' when somebody says guantanamo is _not_ cool. ;)
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/cvs/2006-07/0032.html
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
Peter Philipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh did I say I change my MAC? Since it takes so long for the modem > to learn it, I only do this on a daily basis. But I don't expect you > to copy my behaviour or anything... That won't change anything. The provider keeps your telephon number. Or do you want to order a new telephon number every day? *lol* All you achieve with this idiotic idea is that you get the providers attention because you spam their logs and they'll propably cancel the contract because of abuse. > You too are just jealous. That's one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard so far. Are you really thinking that someone could be joulous of such an idiotic idea? -- Jonathan
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 11:21:43PM -0400, Eric Furman wrote: > There are no useful answers for idiots. > Remember this is the same idiot who started the USB keyboard > encryption BS thread. His tinfoil cap is on too tight. > -- > Eric Furman > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tinfoil is useless for any paranoid reasons. Tinfoil caps only serve well for decorational dress. You too are just jealous. -p -- Here my ticker tape .signature My name is Peter Philipp lynx -dump "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pufferfish&oldid=20768394"; | sed -n 131,136p So long and thanks for all the fish!!!
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 22:39:48 +0200, "Peter Philipp"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 10:15:06PM +0200, Tobias Weisserth wrote:
> > > This is just the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. You are creating
> > > a whole bunch of unneccessary problems for yourself.
> >
> > It's pretty obvious he's trying to hide his true identity because of these
> > mp3
> > activities on the Internet. If he's that paranoid about his probably
> > illegal
> > activities I don't understand why he talks about them in detail on a public
> > mailing list... :-)
>
> Illegal activities? Naw man! I just like moving like a Mack truck.
> See,
> I'm already gone! Once I was upset that they didn't give everyone static
> IP's, and then I thought about the words Vint Cerf said, and I got
> enlightened. Anonymity rocks when you're taking charge of it. If you
> linger around for 20 hours a day someone can track you and the dynamic IP
> is useless. So I'm turning it around, into the intended direction. And
> I
> know I'm on the right path.
>
> There is a lot of things you see when you push the technology to the
> limits,
> like why does pppoe(4) take 6 seconds to authenticate you over Ethernet
> when
> you cycle the pppoeX interface? Obviously streamlining can be done to
> push
> this down below a second. Somewhere there is a loop too many in the sppp
> or
> pppoe code or a timeout too long.
>
> Anyhow per day I see around 1440 IP's, I know my connecting netblock.. do
> you
> know yours?
>
> $ grep "new ip for now" /var/log/all | awk '{print $NF}' | sort -u | wc
> -l
>17991
> $
>
> There's your odds if you want to find me at any minute. And if you scan
> how do you know that I won't disconnect before the scan reaches me and
> re-
> appear to an IP that the scan already passed? Linear portscanning won't
> work. You may as well send a random packet and hope it comes across my
> ways.
>
>
> > cheers,
> > Tobias
>
> So you can't help me with a useful answer either? Sad.
There are no useful answers for idiots.
Remember this is the same idiot who started the USB keyboard
encryption BS thread. His tinfoil cap is on too tight.
--
Eric Furman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On 7/15/06, Peter Philipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 04:03:52PM -0700, smith wrote: > If I'm going to provide my customers internet access I better keep track of > the traffic that my customers' dsl modems generate. This is to protect me > from lawsuits and abuse of the services I provide. Hmmm. Looking through the I guess it's illegal nowadays to symlink your logs to /dev/null. > logs I notice that all of a sudden my dhcp server is sending out IP leases > every minute, why? Or when I look at my graphs, there is a spike in dhcp > leases and plateaus for the rest of the day. Hmmm. This one customer with a > dsl mac address such and such and/or phone number such and such is the one > making all the request for a new leases. I wonder what he's up too? Hmm. > Most of his traffic is mp3's. Hmmm. Funny scenario, does not apply to me. :) > Just from the fact that you make all those request for new leases makes you > stand out. And? The ISP cannot do anything. They can write a new clause to their EULA that re-connecting within X amount of time is excessive and forbidden, and notify the customer on that, so that they may adjust their settings. And I'm sure they'd be pretty bored with POP3 traffic and HTTP, and the occasional ftp to download open source ports. I see no problem. Thanks for the info though. Haha this thread is awesome. I saw the beginning of it a few hours ago and was going to jump in but had to go somewhere. Now I come back and see it's exploded, just like I knew it would as soon as I saw "I do this for personal reasons and I like it this way". Philip, your system fails. Not that you shouldn't try to be anonymous, but you clearly don't know enough about how the internet works to accomplish that on your own. Look up tor. Look up freenet (.sf.net, not .de). Those have been developed for years by some of the brightest in the field and they *still* have big weaknesses. Anyway, there is no such thing as an mp3 concatation program, at least not like you're looking for, because the need for a program that can detect duplicate blocks *does not exist*. You do not count as need, especially since the easy solution is to go with a mopre stable IP. Anonymity has is costs. The sad thing here is that you have only a false sense of anonymity. -Nick
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On 7/15/06, Peter Philipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I guess I should send them an apology note for hurting the authentication servers feelings? You don't have a clue! Look up "MAC address" and get yourself a clue. I've only been on this list a couple of years, but you definitely win the "most ridiculous post ever" prize in my mind...
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
thus Peter Philipp spake: On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 04:03:52PM -0700, smith wrote: If I'm going to provide my customers internet access I better keep track of the traffic that my customers' dsl modems generate. This is to protect me from lawsuits and abuse of the services I provide. Hmmm. Looking through the I guess it's illegal nowadays to symlink your logs to /dev/null. logs I notice that all of a sudden my dhcp server is sending out IP leases every minute, why? Or when I look at my graphs, there is a spike in dhcp leases and plateaus for the rest of the day. Hmmm. This one customer with a dsl mac address such and such and/or phone number such and such is the one making all the request for a new leases. I wonder what he's up too? Hmm. Most of his traffic is mp3's. Hmmm. Funny scenario, does not apply to me. :) what does not apply to you? that's the scenario you pointed out as context of your question. Just from the fact that you make all those request for new leases makes you stand out. And? The ISP cannot do anything. the ISP could (and should) disable your account. They can write a new clause to their EULA that re-connecting within X amount of time is excessive and forbidden, and notify the customer on that, so that they may adjust their settings. if you want to use the term EULA in this context, well... however, please take a look into the contract between you and the ISP and you *will* find a clause that excessive use (i.e. abuse) of *any* service is prohibited and abuse may lead to your line being shut down. period. And I'm sure they'd be pretty bored with POP3 traffic and HTTP, and the occasional ftp to download open source ports. I see no problem. bla. Thanks for the info though. de nada. ps: i'd like to take this thread into the canditate list of the dumbest threads ever ;) -- Timo Schoeler | http://riscworks.net/~tis | [EMAIL PROTECTED] RISCworks -- Perfection is a powerful message ISP | POWER & PowerPC afficinados | Networking, Security, BSD services GPG Key fingerprint = B5F6 68A4 EC45 C309 6770 38C4 50E8 2740 9E0C F20A There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who don't.
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 04:03:52PM -0700, smith wrote: > If I'm going to provide my customers internet access I better keep track of > the traffic that my customers' dsl modems generate. This is to protect me > from lawsuits and abuse of the services I provide. Hmmm. Looking through the I guess it's illegal nowadays to symlink your logs to /dev/null. > logs I notice that all of a sudden my dhcp server is sending out IP leases > every minute, why? Or when I look at my graphs, there is a spike in dhcp > leases and plateaus for the rest of the day. Hmmm. This one customer with a > dsl mac address such and such and/or phone number such and such is the one > making all the request for a new leases. I wonder what he's up too? Hmm. > Most of his traffic is mp3's. Hmmm. Funny scenario, does not apply to me. :) > Just from the fact that you make all those request for new leases makes you > stand out. And? The ISP cannot do anything. They can write a new clause to their EULA that re-connecting within X amount of time is excessive and forbidden, and notify the customer on that, so that they may adjust their settings. And I'm sure they'd be pretty bored with POP3 traffic and HTTP, and the occasional ftp to download open source ports. I see no problem. Thanks for the info though. -p -- Here my ticker tape .signature My name is Peter Philipp lynx -dump "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pufferfish&oldid=20768394"; | sed -n 131,136p So long and thanks for all the fish!!!
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
Peter if you want to be anonymous look up tor. I'm not trying to call you names or anything and I'm no security expert either but I'm sure this scenario is likely from the point of view of your ISP: If I'm going to provide my customers internet access I better keep track of the traffic that my customers' dsl modems generate. This is to protect me from lawsuits and abuse of the services I provide. Hmmm. Looking through the logs I notice that all of a sudden my dhcp server is sending out IP leases every minute, why? Or when I look at my graphs, there is a spike in dhcp leases and plateaus for the rest of the day. Hmmm. This one customer with a dsl mac address such and such and/or phone number such and such is the one making all the request for a new leases. I wonder what he's up too? Hmm. Most of his traffic is mp3's. Hmmm. Just from the fact that you make all those request for new leases makes you stand out.
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 04:58:35PM -0500, Eric Pancer wrote: > Jesus you're a fucking idiot. I mean, seriously: this thread has got to be > one of the more idiotic things I've ever read here. Ok I'm about to fucking blow a fuse! What's your fucking problem! You're a shark! Nasty, bloodthirsty beast! Respect my needs without calling me names or questioning my logic. Here ! http://www.snickers.org/~pjp/find-blow-a-fuse.mp3. > Anyway - the truly paranoid connect to different ISPs. Your provider has the > source port you're coming from, your MAC address, and prolly the MAC of your > DSL router in their CAM tables. You've achieved nothing, lackey. Oh did I say I change my MAC? Since it takes so long for the modem to learn it, I only do this on a daily basis. But I don't expect you to copy my behaviour or anything... -p -- Here my ticker tape .signature My name is Peter Philipp lynx -dump "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pufferfish&oldid=20768394"; | sed -n 131,136p So long and thanks for all the fish!!!
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 11:49:34PM +0200, RedShift wrote: > Computers aren't almighty. Why the hell am I even replying to you? If > you don't want to authenticate, don't use PPPoE then. What you are > trying to do is idiotic. This topic is by far the most ridiculous I have > ever read. What's the point? What do you expect from us? And you ARE > bothering your ISP's authentication servers. Just because they have > enough of processing power to serve your requests, doesn't allow to > abuse it. Get a life, you computer pervert! I guess I should send them an apology note for hurting the authentication servers feelings? You don't have a clue! -p -- Here my ticker tape .signature My name is Peter Philipp lynx -dump "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pufferfish&oldid=20768394"; | sed -n 131,136p So long and thanks for all the fish!!!
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 11:34:33PM +0200, Timo Schoeler wrote: > >It's not a DDoS. > > sure it is. Your own customers aren't DDoS'ing you when they try to authenticate. A Distributed Denial of Service by definition is a computer crime with intent to disable your services with malice, which this isn't. > >Computers are almighty today, > > :D Dude, back in '97 we ran an ISP on P120's and P166's. Trust me. > >If RADIUS is too slow, start caching, memory is cheap. There is a > >lot of solutions and technical solutions around this. And it's this > >service > >that people pay for anyhow. > > you pay taxes. so you pay for the firefighters. do you call them every > minute to ask what to do in case there'd be really fire? That isn't even comparable. Comparable is going to the bathroom and it has 16000 doors. Instead of taking the same damn door you take another whichever you feel at the time. And yes someone does clean that bathroom, they also can use any door if they feel up to it. > this attitude really sucks. > > you demand people/organizations to buy an IBM p595 just for running > RADIUS, instead of letting their good ol' Ultra 2 running the next > decade until it falls apart. you're wasting ressources and energy. No, you will see that I am right. > >You haven't heard of an mp3 concatenate utility > >either right? > > no, and i certainly never will :) Then perhaps I'll share when I get a hold of it. > get a life, peter. please. there are *real* problems in the world outside... ? Just because my problem doesn't suit you ? Sorry! -peter -- Here my ticker tape .signature My name is Peter Philipp lynx -dump "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pufferfish&oldid=20768394"; | sed -n 131,136p So long and thanks for all the fish!!!
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On 2006/07/15 23:16, Peter Philipp wrote: > And it's this service that people pay for anyhow. So you want everyone else using your ISP to subsidise your fairly extreme use of the auth/accounting infrastructure (radius, ldap, db, whatever..)? Ah well, you'll be worst-affected if it becomes heavily loaded or fails sometime, whereas people holding onto their sessions probably won't even notice. > You haven't heard of an mp3 concatenate utility either right? You have heard of google, right? Is it really so hard to come up with `mp3 concatenate utility' as a search term?
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On Sat, 2006-07-15 at 22:39:48 +0200, Peter Philipp wrote... > Illegal activities? Naw man! I just like moving like a Mack truck. See, > I'm already gone! Once I was upset that they didn't give everyone static > IP's, and then I thought about the words Vint Cerf said, and I got > enlightened. Anonymity rocks when you're taking charge of it. If you > linger around for 20 hours a day someone can track you and the dynamic IP > is useless. So I'm turning it around, into the intended direction. And I > know I'm on the right path. > Anyhow per day I see around 1440 IP's, I know my connecting netblock.. do you > know yours? Jesus you're a fucking idiot. I mean, seriously: this thread has got to be one of the more idiotic things I've ever read here. Anyway - the truly paranoid connect to different ISPs. Your provider has the source port you're coming from, your MAC address, and prolly the MAC of your DSL router in their CAM tables. You've achieved nothing, lackey.
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
Peter Philipp wrote: On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 11:09:13PM +0200, Timo Schoeler wrote: if there were some more guys like you authenticating every minute, there'd be no chance to get authenticated in a decent amount of time. you'd be offline due do a self caused DDoS, rendering the RADIUS machines (or whatever they might use) into slaves doing dull work :D It's not a DDoS. Computers are almighty today, if they can't be pushed to do their freakin' work they may as well be sniffing your packets all day long right? If RADIUS is too slow, start caching, memory is cheap. There is a lot of solutions and technical solutions around this. And it's this service that people pay for anyhow. You haven't heard of an mp3 concatenate utility either right? Computers aren't almighty. Why the hell am I even replying to you? If you don't want to authenticate, don't use PPPoE then. What you are trying to do is idiotic. This topic is by far the most ridiculous I have ever read. What's the point? What do you expect from us? And you ARE bothering your ISP's authentication servers. Just because they have enough of processing power to serve your requests, doesn't allow to abuse it. Get a life, you computer pervert!
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
thus Peter Philipp spake: On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 11:09:13PM +0200, Timo Schoeler wrote: if there were some more guys like you authenticating every minute, there'd be no chance to get authenticated in a decent amount of time. you'd be offline due do a self caused DDoS, rendering the RADIUS machines (or whatever they might use) into slaves doing dull work :D It's not a DDoS. sure it is. Computers are almighty today, :D if they can't be pushed to do their freakin' work they may as well be sniffing your packets all day long right? if you feel that this is the case (which is almost for sure in 'western, democratic, free countries' due to their secret service operations spying their own people) and are frightened by this, you should really think about solving this problem by pulling the root of this evil out, not by cutting single leafs. join the right party, mobilize people, go on the street, pick up some forks and torches and get rid of that dictatorship of capitalism treating mankind like shit -- even and especially in germany (wrt to the TLD of your email address). If RADIUS is too slow, start caching, memory is cheap. There is a lot of solutions and technical solutions around this. And it's this service that people pay for anyhow. you pay taxes. so you pay for the firefighters. do you call them every minute to ask what to do in case there'd be really fire? this attitude really sucks. you demand people/organizations to buy an IBM p595 just for running RADIUS, instead of letting their good ol' Ultra 2 running the next decade until it falls apart. you're wasting ressources and energy. You haven't heard of an mp3 concatenate utility either right? no, and i certainly never will :) greets, -peter get a life, peter. please. there are *real* problems in the world outside...
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 11:09:13PM +0200, Timo Schoeler wrote: > if there were some more guys like you authenticating every minute, > there'd be no chance to get authenticated in a decent amount of time. > you'd be offline due do a self caused DDoS, rendering the RADIUS > machines (or whatever they might use) into slaves doing dull work :D It's not a DDoS. Computers are almighty today, if they can't be pushed to do their freakin' work they may as well be sniffing your packets all day long right? If RADIUS is too slow, start caching, memory is cheap. There is a lot of solutions and technical solutions around this. And it's this service that people pay for anyhow. You haven't heard of an mp3 concatenate utility either right? greets, -peter -- Here my ticker tape .signature My name is Peter Philipp lynx -dump "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pufferfish&oldid=20768394"; | sed -n 131,136p So long and thanks for all the fish!!!
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
thus Peter Philipp spake: On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 10:15:06PM +0200, Tobias Weisserth wrote: This is just the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. You are creating a whole bunch of unneccessary problems for yourself. It's pretty obvious he's trying to hide his true identity because of these mp3 activities on the Internet. If he's that paranoid about his probably illegal activities I don't understand why he talks about them in detail on a public mailing list... :-) Illegal activities? Naw man! I just like moving like a Mack truck. See, I'm already gone! Once I was upset that they didn't give everyone static IP's, and then I thought about the words Vint Cerf said, and I got enlightened. Anonymity rocks when you're taking charge of it. If you linger around for 20 hours a day someone can track you and the dynamic IP is useless. So I'm turning it around, into the intended direction. And I know I'm on the right path. There is a lot of things you see when you push the technology to the limits, like why does pppoe(4) take 6 seconds to authenticate you over Ethernet when you cycle the pppoeX interface? Obviously streamlining can be done to push this down below a second. Somewhere there is a loop too many in the sppp or pppoe code or a timeout too long. if there were some more guys like you authenticating every minute, there'd be no chance to get authenticated in a decent amount of time. you'd be offline due do a self caused DDoS, rendering the RADIUS machines (or whatever they might use) into slaves doing dull work :D -- Timo Schoeler | http://riscworks.net/~tis | [EMAIL PROTECTED] RISCworks -- Perfection is a powerful message ISP | POWER & PowerPC afficinados | Networking, Security, BSD services GPG Key fingerprint = B5F6 68A4 EC45 C309 6770 38C4 50E8 2740 9E0C F20A There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who don't.
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 10:15:06PM +0200, Tobias Weisserth wrote:
> > This is just the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. You are creating
> > a whole bunch of unneccessary problems for yourself.
>
> It's pretty obvious he's trying to hide his true identity because of these
> mp3
> activities on the Internet. If he's that paranoid about his probably illegal
> activities I don't understand why he talks about them in detail on a public
> mailing list... :-)
Illegal activities? Naw man! I just like moving like a Mack truck. See,
I'm already gone! Once I was upset that they didn't give everyone static
IP's, and then I thought about the words Vint Cerf said, and I got
enlightened. Anonymity rocks when you're taking charge of it. If you
linger around for 20 hours a day someone can track you and the dynamic IP
is useless. So I'm turning it around, into the intended direction. And I
know I'm on the right path.
There is a lot of things you see when you push the technology to the limits,
like why does pppoe(4) take 6 seconds to authenticate you over Ethernet when
you cycle the pppoeX interface? Obviously streamlining can be done to push
this down below a second. Somewhere there is a loop too many in the sppp or
pppoe code or a timeout too long.
Anyhow per day I see around 1440 IP's, I know my connecting netblock.. do you
know yours?
$ grep "new ip for now" /var/log/all | awk '{print $NF}' | sort -u | wc -l
17991
$
There's your odds if you want to find me at any minute. And if you scan
how do you know that I won't disconnect before the scan reaches me and re-
appear to an IP that the scan already passed? Linear portscanning won't
work. You may as well send a random packet and hope it comes across my
ways.
> cheers,
> Tobias
So you can't help me with a useful answer either? Sad.
-p
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Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
Hi, On Saturday, 15. July 2006 21:24, z0mbix wrote: > On 7/15/06, Peter Philipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi misc@, > > > > I have a an original setup at home. I crontab logging on and off the > > Internet on a minutely basis, so that I aquire a new IP every minute. I > > do this for personal reasons and I like it this way. > > This is just the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. You are creating > a whole bunch of unneccessary problems for yourself. It's pretty obvious he's trying to hide his true identity because of these mp3 activities on the Internet. If he's that paranoid about his probably illegal activities I don't understand why he talks about them in detail on a public mailing list... :-) > > At the same time I also stream > > mp3's from a radio station in Toronto. Since my IP changes every minute cheers, Tobias
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 08:24:04PM +0100, z0mbix wrote: > This is just the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. You are creating > a whole bunch of unneccessary problems for yourself. I don't operate in a box that's made for me. I go further. Stop the namecalling and reconsider if you don't have a useful answer. -p -- Here my ticker tape .signature My name is Peter Philipp lynx -dump "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pufferfish&oldid=20768394"; | sed -n 131,136p So long and thanks for all the fish!!!
Re: Do mp3 concatenation programs exist?
On 7/15/06, Peter Philipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi misc@,
I have a an original setup at home. I crontab logging on and off the Internet
on a minutely basis, so that I aquire a new IP every minute. I do this for
personal reasons and I like it this way.
This is just the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. You are creating
a whole bunch of unneccessary problems for yourself.
At the same time I also stream
mp3's from a radio station in Toronto. Since my IP changes every minute
I have about a minute of streaming before I tcpdrop(8) and cycle pppoe(4).
At the end of a day I concatenate the snippets into one large mp3 but at
times the concatenation isn't perfect and there is a repeat, or a chop off
or a squeak. Because the mp3 snippets have a time-delay buffer and overlap
nothing is really lost but I'm looking for better software to concatenate these.
Take 4 mp3 files representing 4 minutes as an example:
ckln.1152650587
ckln.1152650647
ckln.1152650707
ckln.1152650767
(If you're interested in making this work I can give you the URLs to download
these for testing).
Here is the script that I now concatenate these with:
---
#!/bin/sh
#
# To do an entire day this script will run 3 hours
#
FILE="ckln-radio-stream`date +%Y%m%d`.mp3"
sleep 61
rm -f /export/ckln/$FILE
for i in `find /export/ckln -name "ckln.1*" -ctime -1 -print`; do
dd if=$i of=/export/ckln/$FILE bs=128 count=1
break;
done
for i in `find /export/ckln -name "ckln.1*" -ctime -1 -print`; do
SIZE=`ls -l $i | awk '{printf("%s\n", int($5 / 614400)); }'`
VARIABLE=`mplayer -ao null -nosound -speed 100 -v -v $i | grep " len=" | awk '{ split($6, a, "=");
total += a[2]; if (total > 15000) { if (! startmessage) { printf("start: %s ", total + 128); startmessage++; start
= total; }; counton += a[2]; framecount++;} if (counton >= multiplier < 1) ? 1 : multiplier) * 614400) - 15000 )) {
printf("%s bytes %s frames\n", counton - 128, framecount); exit 0; }}' multiplier=$SIZE`
SKIP=`echo $VARIABLE | awk '{print $2}'`
COUNT=`echo $VARIABLE | awk '{print $3}'`
echo $VARIABLE
dd if=$i of=$HOME/tmp.$$ skip=$SKIP count=$COUNT bs=1
cat $HOME/tmp.$$ >> /export/ckln/$FILE
rm -f $HOME/tmp.$$
done
---
As you can see I run mplayer at speed 100 with full verbose messages so
that I can see how large the individual frames are (with padding), with
that count I can then dd the stuff out. Obviously it's not perfect.
What I'm looking for at best is something that checksums or hashes every
mp3 frame (I think they are around 360 bytes each or so) and finds the
exact overlap on the next mp3 file. ( I can't imagine the streaming server
making a new mp3 for every connection there is, but rather doing it once
for all connections so the frames should all be the same value around the
overlap and hence checksumming should work to make the exact splice, right?)
I've thought about disecting the de-multiplex functions in mplayer to
a customized program to do this but before I do, I want to ask if there
is something like this out there already saving me time?
regards,
-peter
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