Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV fix
On 26/01/06, Elwe Singollo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If someone knows exactly what changed from 0.4.x to > 0.4.2 to cause these changes, we could probably write a script to get > people up and running again, without having to do what I did. The name of the tuner input changed from "Tuner 0" to "Tuner". It is highly likely this was the problem. I would recommend using an application like phpMyAdmin to administer the mythconverg database - you can fix things in your webbrowser and also export/import tables/databases easily and quickly without having to lose everything. Nick ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV Freeze in HD
On Jan 23, 2006, at 3:47 PM, Brad Fuller wrote: > Curtis Stanford wrote: > >> In LiveTV, if I switch channels from one HD channel to another, myth >> hangs. If I press ESC and then 'Watch TV' again, it comes up fine. >> Switching from non-HD to HD and vice versa seems to work OK, however. >> >> I'm using the latest SVN code (as of yesterday) and a DCT-6200 with >> firewire. The firewire works perfectly in all other respects. Anyone >> else see this? >> >> > Curious: how do you switch channels if you are receiving the HD stream > from a set top box? Aren't you changing the channels on the box > externally? Or does Myth have a way to send channel changes via 1394? Myth changes channels via 1394. The channel changes but the picture never comes up until I ESC and re-enter LiveTV. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV Freeze in HD
Curtis Stanford wrote: >In LiveTV, if I switch channels from one HD channel to another, myth >hangs. If I press ESC and then 'Watch TV' again, it comes up fine. >Switching from non-HD to HD and vice versa seems to work OK, however. > >I'm using the latest SVN code (as of yesterday) and a DCT-6200 with >firewire. The firewire works perfectly in all other respects. Anyone >else see this? > > Curious: how do you switch channels if you are receiving the HD stream from a set top box? Aren't you changing the channels on the box externally? Or does Myth have a way to send channel changes via 1394? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Isaac Richards wrote: > That's enough of that. Anyone continuing to act like a 2 year old gets > removed from the list. > > Isaac My thoughts precisely. Some people just don't know when to stop. Johan ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled
On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 15:54 -0500, Chris Pinkham wrote: > > I see your point and after Isaac's explanation some time ago I know that > > it is close to what I want, but I still want to know how much of the Digicam > > stuff I can download to the disk before I start doing it. Preferably > > without > > expiring my recorded auto-expirable shows. > > Then maybe you should spend your time writing a patch that's been on my TODO > list for a while. I want to add something to the disk space section of the > mythfrontend status page. Right now it shows how much free space you have > available and estimates how much recording time you have left. I want to > add code to display how much space could be freed by autoexpiring LiveTV and > normal recordings, so you can see how much true disk space you have and an > estimate of the (estimated) true recording time you have left based on that. I've often thought that it would be awesome if it would colour code the bar based on recording groups... Ian. -- Ian Campbell You will triumph over your enemy. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Kevin Kuphal wrote: > For all the complaints prior to this change about > why Myth can't save an in progress recording, when the solution is > implemented, it simply garners more complaints which I can only imagine > frustrates those who spent their time working on this at the request of > users who asked for it. Especially since the one who spent the most time on the change, Isaac, doesn't use LiveTV much at all. ( http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/148764#148764 ) Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
On Sunday 15 January 2006 00:23, Mudit Wahal wrote: > On 1/14/06, Jake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 1/14/06, Mudit Wahal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Kevin, > > > > > > I'll give you one example of the koolaid gang trying to force their > > > koolaid on others. > > > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/138384 > > > > > > The attitude is my highway or the high way. It has been quite apparent > > > > dude, i read that thread and at most what i got from it was that some > > dumbass couldn't get myth to work with his setup so he loves the > > iolink because no muss. no fuss. that is fine with me. all i know is > > you gotta be retarded to not be able to get myth to work. either that > > or you made a mistake when buying hardware. or you didn't research > > enough. > > [Sorry guys, I've to change my tone so the koolaid gang can > understand. Seems like that's the only language they understand] > > dude, I think you have no idea how it works (myth backend and frontend > and uPnP streaming etc). Just be happy with your crappy 480i tv out > from your god given pvr 350 and shut up. You were dumb enough not to > figure how to get a decent tv without hand holding. > Just because you are happy with a noisy jet engine in your living room > with a crappy svideo out, doesnt mean entire word has to suffer the > same misery along with you. Just because you made some dumb decision > doesnt mean others dont have enough intelligence to figure out a > better and easier way to do thing. That's enough of that. Anyone continuing to act like a 2 year old gets removed from the list. Isaac ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
On 1/14/06, Jake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/14/06, Mudit Wahal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kevin, > > > > I'll give you one example of the koolaid gang trying to force their > > koolaid on others. > > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/138384 > > > > The attitude is my highway or the high way. It has been quite apparent > > dude, i read that thread and at most what i got from it was that some > dumbass couldn't get myth to work with his setup so he loves the > iolink because no muss. no fuss. that is fine with me. all i know is > you gotta be retarded to not be able to get myth to work. either that > or you made a mistake when buying hardware. or you didn't research > enough. [Sorry guys, I've to change my tone so the koolaid gang can understand. Seems like that's the only language they understand] dude, I think you have no idea how it works (myth backend and frontend and uPnP streaming etc). Just be happy with your crappy 480i tv out from your god given pvr 350 and shut up. You were dumb enough not to figure how to get a decent tv without hand holding. Just because you are happy with a noisy jet engine in your living room with a crappy svideo out, doesnt mean entire word has to suffer the same misery along with you. Just because you made some dumb decision doesnt mean others dont have enough intelligence to figure out a better and easier way to do thing. [Again apologizes to non-koolaid gang] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
On 1/14/06, Mudit Wahal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kevin, > > I'll give you one example of the koolaid gang trying to force their > koolaid on others. > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/138384 > > The attitude is my highway or the high way. It has been quite apparent dude, i read that thread and at most what i got from it was that some dumbass couldn't get myth to work with his setup so he loves the iolink because no muss. no fuss. that is fine with me. all i know is you gotta be retarded to not be able to get myth to work. either that or you made a mistake when buying hardware. or you didn't research enough. guess what, i followed the myth mailing lists for over a year and a soon as myth supported the hauppauge pvr cards i jumped on board. wanna know how long it took me to get myth up and running perfectly? answer: about and hour. from no debian to full myth. now, i have definitely used linux before but still. i think the real problem with the myth mailing lists is that people like me who do research and know what they're doing get inundated with rediculous posts from users that don't. fine, mythtv may be quite appealing to joe blow but most of us on the list who can answer questions have put in some time and is it not reasonable that we expect others to do the same. as for the livetv situation it is seriously rediculous. before the livetv change everyone was clamoring for a way to hit record and get whatever program they were watching in livetv added to the program table (a reasonable request i must admit). this was prohibitevly complex with the ringbuffer so isaac redid livetv. now morons are whining about something else, you can't win. and of course no one even peeped when isaac told everyone he was gonna change livetv. hell, i knew it was gonna happen months before it did, it's not like isaac decided one day, hell, i'm gonna piss everyone off and totally redo livetv! no, it was a long time coming. i want to thank isaac for the change. i love the new livetv and i love autoexpire. mythmhandles everything perfectly and without a hiccup. we may be on the outer edge of mythtv (we autoexpire about 150 hours of tv a week) but myth works perfectly for us. keep up the good work and if you don't like myth, try switch to MCE ;) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Mudit Wahal wrote: > I can see that Tom has taken over Donovan's job. > No Im just tired of your degrading comments. Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
I can see that Tom has taken over Donovan's job. On 1/14/06, Tom E. Craddock Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mudit Wahal wrote: > > Kevin, > > > > I'll give you one example of the koolaid gang trying to force their > > koolaid on others. > > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/138384 > > > > The attitude is my highway or the high way. It has been quite apparent > > from the mailing list. Some are nicer comments such as "Then leave!!", > > others are not nicer such as demonstrated by the above link. > > > > Any sort of discussion which questions the way mythtv behaves is high > > jacked by the koolaid gang and the original poster and others are > > flamed. I know several very good knowledgable people who used to > > contribute on the list, but now have left it totally, just because of > > this kind of attitude. Its a real loss for the overall community. > > > > > > Mudit > > > > > > Nice, compare your fellow mythtv-users to people who were systematically > brainwashed and convinced to commit a mortal sin. Thats classy there. > > > Anyways, after reviewing the thread you linked, theres was one person > who complained about the BlowJob you were giving some product that the > OP of that thread didnt even ask about. Get over it. It was and still > is annoying to see your mouth firmly attached to that devices nether > parts, while at the same time degrading others on the list with your sly > references to people who were at the best just majorly impressionable > and at worst, completely mind fucked. > > > Tom > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Mudit Wahal wrote: > Kevin, > > I'll give you one example of the koolaid gang trying to force their > koolaid on others. > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/138384 > > The attitude is my highway or the high way. It has been quite apparent > from the mailing list. Some are nicer comments such as "Then leave!!", > others are not nicer such as demonstrated by the above link. > > Any sort of discussion which questions the way mythtv behaves is high > jacked by the koolaid gang and the original poster and others are > flamed. I know several very good knowledgable people who used to > contribute on the list, but now have left it totally, just because of > this kind of attitude. Its a real loss for the overall community. > > > Mudit > Nice, compare your fellow mythtv-users to people who were systematically brainwashed and convinced to commit a mortal sin. Thats classy there. Anyways, after reviewing the thread you linked, theres was one person who complained about the BlowJob you were giving some product that the OP of that thread didnt even ask about. Get over it. It was and still is annoying to see your mouth firmly attached to that devices nether parts, while at the same time degrading others on the list with your sly references to people who were at the best just majorly impressionable and at worst, completely mind fucked. Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Kevin, I'll give you one example of the koolaid gang trying to force their koolaid on others. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/138384 The attitude is my highway or the high way. It has been quite apparent from the mailing list. Some are nicer comments such as "Then leave!!", others are not nicer such as demonstrated by the above link. Any sort of discussion which questions the way mythtv behaves is high jacked by the koolaid gang and the original poster and others are flamed. I know several very good knowledgable people who used to contribute on the list, but now have left it totally, just because of this kind of attitude. Its a real loss for the overall community. Mudit On 1/14/06, Kevin Kuphal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mudit Wahal wrote: > > The koolaid is too srong here and if you are not drinking the same > > koolaid, you are ostracised. I just use myth as a DVR and I like the > > EPG. My linuxbox records the shows, commercial cuts and does mpeg2 to > > mpeg4 via mencoder. My headless box sits in garage. I'm streaming the > > record shows to a network dvd player (IOData LinkPlayer2) using UPnP > > wizd server which runs on the linux box. If I say anything more about > > my setup, the koolaid gang will come after me and try to punish me for > > not using a *proper mythfrontend* for viewing my myth recorded shows > > :-) > > > No, but you might get snapped at for fanning the flames. In fact, I > think you would find quite the opposite. Everyone here is very much > involved in how to make their boxes better. I myself am streaming my > music using UPnP to a HomePod music player in my living room. Myth > doesn't always fit every situation but nor should it be crammed into > every. Dan has found a way to meet his needs as have you, but you'll > note both have also been done without adding excess checkboxes and > infrequently used features to the product. I think you would also find > a great deal of interest if someone were to code a UPnP extension to > Myth (which I believe is what the MFD/MFE part of the codebases are > destined for). There is a right way and a wrong way to participate > with this project. Unfortunately, too many people think they have the > best idea since sliced bread or that just one more option won't hurt > when in reality, it has all been seen before and there has already been > work done to reduce the confusion of options rather than increase them. > > Kevin > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
BP wrote: > Kevin Kuphal wrote: > > >> This always makes me ask...why? With your auto-expiration options set >> (unless you never expire anything), Myth will perfectly manage your >> space to make sure it removes old shows to make room for new. LiveTV >> will be expired before anything else so it is irrelevant when >> calculating "space" as it will be automatically removed when needed. >> I'd spend a little more time configuring your expiration rules to match >> your viewing behavior and a little less time worrying about the physical >> disk space because the system is designed to manage that for you. >> >> Kevin >> > > I keep asking why you can not understand that some people prefer to > manage their own disk space. I do not want a computer to ever decide to > automatically delete something. If I have it recorded and saved, it is > because I want to watch it. > Then don't set it for autoexpire and the only thing that will be autoexpired will be LiveTV recordings. It still works in this manner. > Someone did post the sql commands to mark all current recordings to not > expire. I just still feel much safer knowing that autoexpire will never > run. I do not trust a computer to only delete what it should. Mistakes > happen when scheduling, etc. > Myth will only autoexpire what you tell it to. > I would have much preferred that live tv recordings be flagged as such. > If the user pressed the record button, the flag would be removed. > There could then be a different clean up thread to remove live tv > buffers independent of autoexpire. Perhaps as simply as when live tv is > exited and when the backend starts. > It all depends on your usage, I've already posted a scenario where someone would very much want the LiveTV buffer to stay around after exiting. You're suggesting introducing an entirely new housekeeping function that is already pretty well covered by autoexpire. > I fully understand that this is working as those that contribute code > want. I can accept that. I am just sick and tired of the constant > replies implying that those of us that do not like this functionality > need to get a clue. Many of us just have different opinions and usage > preferences. I have yet to see a usage preference that cannot be met by the current code apart from someone's insistance on managing things outside the system when the internal management does it just as well. But then we're all beating a dead horse here because the lead developer has explained that in no uncertain terms will the request to expire recordings instantly be implemented. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Kevin Kuphal wrote: > This always makes me ask...why? With your auto-expiration options set > (unless you never expire anything), Myth will perfectly manage your > space to make sure it removes old shows to make room for new. LiveTV > will be expired before anything else so it is irrelevant when > calculating "space" as it will be automatically removed when needed. > I'd spend a little more time configuring your expiration rules to match > your viewing behavior and a little less time worrying about the physical > disk space because the system is designed to manage that for you. > > Kevin I keep asking why you can not understand that some people prefer to manage their own disk space. I do not want a computer to ever decide to automatically delete something. If I have it recorded and saved, it is because I want to watch it. The way I see it is that new shows are more likely to have upcoming repeats than older, syndicated reruns. If I miss a new episode due to space issues, I won't have to wait long. If something I have saved gets deleted, it could be a year or more before it is recorded again. However, I do like to know exactly how much free space remains so that I can manage whether or not a recording will be missed due to space. Someone did post the sql commands to mark all current recordings to not expire. I just still feel much safer knowing that autoexpire will never run. I do not trust a computer to only delete what it should. Mistakes happen when scheduling, etc. I would have much preferred that live tv recordings be flagged as such. If the user pressed the record button, the flag would be removed. There could then be a different clean up thread to remove live tv buffers independent of autoexpire. Perhaps as simply as when live tv is exited and when the backend starts. I fully understand that this is working as those that contribute code want. I can accept that. I am just sick and tired of the constant replies implying that those of us that do not like this functionality need to get a clue. Many of us just have different opinions and usage preferences. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled
> I think the information you are looking for is already there > in the "AutoExpire List" section on the status page. If you > cursor right when on "AutoExpire List", you'll see detailed information > at the top of the page which includes the total number of recordings > that can be expired as well as the disk space they are consuming. > I calculate the total number of LiveTV recordings and their disk > space in the code but evidently forgot to display it, so I just > committed that change to SVN. wow chris, that is awesome! hadn't even noticed it. not sure how hard it is, or if it's even possible, but it would be nice to be able to manipulate the recordings right from there such as delete and maybe turn off auto-expire. i may have to have a look at the code later tonight just to see how hard that might be. overall very cool though. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Kevin Kuphal wrote: Unfortunately, too many people think they have the > best idea since sliced bread or that just one more option won't hurt > when in reality, it has all been seen before and there has already been > work done to reduce the confusion of options rather than increase them. > > Kevin Ecclesiastes 1:9? ;) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Mudit Wahal wrote: > The koolaid is too srong here and if you are not drinking the same > koolaid, you are ostracised. I just use myth as a DVR and I like the > EPG. My linuxbox records the shows, commercial cuts and does mpeg2 to > mpeg4 via mencoder. My headless box sits in garage. I'm streaming the > record shows to a network dvd player (IOData LinkPlayer2) using UPnP > wizd server which runs on the linux box. If I say anything more about > my setup, the koolaid gang will come after me and try to punish me for > not using a *proper mythfrontend* for viewing my myth recorded shows > :-) > No, but you might get snapped at for fanning the flames. In fact, I think you would find quite the opposite. Everyone here is very much involved in how to make their boxes better. I myself am streaming my music using UPnP to a HomePod music player in my living room. Myth doesn't always fit every situation but nor should it be crammed into every. Dan has found a way to meet his needs as have you, but you'll note both have also been done without adding excess checkboxes and infrequently used features to the product. I think you would also find a great deal of interest if someone were to code a UPnP extension to Myth (which I believe is what the MFD/MFE part of the codebases are destined for). There is a right way and a wrong way to participate with this project. Unfortunately, too many people think they have the best idea since sliced bread or that just one more option won't hurt when in reality, it has all been seen before and there has already been work done to reduce the confusion of options rather than increase them. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled
>
> I think the information you are looking for is already there
> in the "AutoExpire List" section on the status page. If you
> cursor right when on "AutoExpire List", you'll see detailed information
> at the top of the page which includes the total number of recordings
> that can be expired as well as the disk space they are consuming.
> I calculate the total number of LiveTV recordings and their disk
> space in the code but evidently forgot to display it, so I just
> committed that change to SVN.
>
> > Yes, that is not the problem. Telling in advance how much it will
> > expire is.
>
> So, this is already visible from the status page and if you update
> to SVN HEAD, you can see how much of that used space is taken up by
> LiveTV recordings.
OK,
this update will solve my problem, at least partially ;-)
I still have to get this done through my ssh connection to the box,
but as I was also looking into the problem here I alrady figured out
that the SQL command to use is:
select sum(filesize) from recorded WHERE hostname IN ("")
AND recgroup="LiveTV";
(Does that look right?)
Just have to write a script which sutracts this value from the df output
I guess.
But thanks a lot Chris for helping out /understanding the problem/arguing
about this!
Restores my faith in the Open Source community
Dag
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Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled
> It does seem I have a problem expressing myself as only > Chris Pinkham has understood what I am looking for > so far: > > A method to tell how much stuff I can dump on the disk until > it is full without expiring semi-important shows that are marked > "autoexpire". I think the information you are looking for is already there in the "AutoExpire List" section on the status page. If you cursor right when on "AutoExpire List", you'll see detailed information at the top of the page which includes the total number of recordings that can be expired as well as the disk space they are consuming. I calculate the total number of LiveTV recordings and their disk space in the code but evidently forgot to display it, so I just committed that change to SVN. > Yes, that is not the problem. Telling in advance how much it will > expire is. So, this is already visible from the status page and if you update to SVN HEAD, you can see how much of that used space is taken up by LiveTV recordings. -- Chris Pinkham ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
On 1/14/06, Dag Nygren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dag, > > > > The best way to get *around* this issue is to have a dedicated > > partition for the myth recordings. That way, the old livetv files will > > be deleted much faster. You can keep your programs, archives, dvds, > > movies, downloads, torrents, etc on a separate partition(s). AFAIK, > > you can set the directory paths in the myth setup. Its little pain in > > the behind to setup separate partition, but atleast you will not boil > > your blood everytime you see gigabytes of livetv buffer sitting around > > on your precious disk space. > > Thanks for the tip, > but this just doesn't work. > The main disk space is needed by two things: MythTV and ie. a downloaded > stream from my Digital video camera. > The problem is that MythTV should be given as much as possible > when it is not needed by the digicam, but when I need the space > I need it. > Putting these on different partitions will not share the space available. > > > Also, this is more like a developer's project. The developer(s) > > dictate which features are needed and how it should be implemented. > > Always keep that in mind, it helps to lower your blood pressure. I've > > found many work arounds in mythtv to keep my cool :-) > > > > In the end, if you dont like the way mythtv works, you are most > > welcome to try other alternatives, such as Freevo, VDR (very light > > weight), etc etc. I've just started looking at the VDR, its very light > > weight and does only thing :-) > > I do like most of the way that MythTV do things. That is why I am > sticking with it. What I don't like is the attitude on this list from > certain people. You have not seen the attitude yet :-) Search the archives for the F* word and you will find some gems :-) The koolaid is too srong here and if you are not drinking the same koolaid, you are ostracised. I just use myth as a DVR and I like the EPG. My linuxbox records the shows, commercial cuts and does mpeg2 to mpeg4 via mencoder. My headless box sits in garage. I'm streaming the record shows to a network dvd player (IOData LinkPlayer2) using UPnP wizd server which runs on the linux box. If I say anything more about my setup, the koolaid gang will come after me and try to punish me for not using a *proper mythfrontend* for viewing my myth recorded shows :-) > > Your response is a good example of a creative respons and IMHO > the way a list should work so thanks for that. > > Dag > > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled
> > And I completely agree with the idea of being able to save a complete > > show by pressing record, but is there any use for the older LiveTV > > recordings > > You can already set the expiration of LiveTV recordings to happen 24 hours > later, how much LiveTV can you watch in a day? So if you don't see a need > for recordings older than 24 hours, then set Myth to delete them > automatically. Already did that. And you would be surprised how much disk space can be filled up by kids/wife leaving liveTV on for 24 hours. Dag ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
> Dag Nygren wrote: > Then leave. The HNIC (thats head nigga in charge) replied to you and > gave you the answer. How is it his fault you arent 'creative'...scratch > that, smart enough to understand? It does seem I have a problem expressing myself as only Chris Pinkham has understood what I am looking for so far: A method to tell how much stuff I can dump on the disk until it is full without expiring semi-important shows that are marked "autoexpire". > Issac said right there that as long as the backend is running, it will > autexpire the space if ANYTHING wants it. Not just mythtv. Yes, that is not the problem. Telling in advance how much it will expire is. > Youre problem seems to be worrying about some other app using the same > box and needing space. Youve been answered. Thanks, master. ;-) Dag ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled
> > I see your point and after Isaac's explanation some time ago I know that > > it is close to what I want, but I still want to know how much of the Digicam > > stuff I can download to the disk before I start doing it. Preferably > > without > > expiring my recorded auto-expirable shows. > > Then maybe you should spend your time writing a patch that's been on my TODO > list for a while. I want to add something to the disk space section of the > mythfrontend status page. Right now it shows how much free space you have > available and estimates how much recording time you have left. I want to > add code to display how much space could be freed by autoexpiring LiveTV and > normal recordings, so you can see how much true disk space you have and an > estimate of the (estimated) true recording time you have left based on that. This sounds interesting and would help a lot. I might take a shot at it next week. 'df' would wtill do the trick though ;-) Dag ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Dag Nygren wrote: >>Dag, >> >>The best way to get *around* this issue is to have a dedicated >>partition for the myth recordings. That way, the old livetv files will >>be deleted much faster. You can keep your programs, archives, dvds, >>movies, downloads, torrents, etc on a separate partition(s). AFAIK, >>you can set the directory paths in the myth setup. Its little pain in >>the behind to setup separate partition, but atleast you will not boil >>your blood everytime you see gigabytes of livetv buffer sitting around >>on your precious disk space. > > > Thanks for the tip, > but this just doesn't work. > The main disk space is needed by two things: MythTV and ie. a downloaded > stream from my Digital video camera. > The problem is that MythTV should be given as much as possible > when it is not needed by the digicam, but when I need the space > I need it. > Putting these on different partitions will not share the space available. > > >>Also, this is more like a developer's project. The developer(s) >>dictate which features are needed and how it should be implemented. >>Always keep that in mind, it helps to lower your blood pressure. I've >>found many work arounds in mythtv to keep my cool :-) >> >>In the end, if you dont like the way mythtv works, you are most >>welcome to try other alternatives, such as Freevo, VDR (very light >>weight), etc etc. I've just started looking at the VDR, its very light >>weight and does only thing :-) > > > I do like most of the way that MythTV do things. That is why I am > sticking with it. What I don't like is the attitude on this list from > certain people. > > Your response is a good example of a creative respons and IMHO > the way a list should work so thanks for that. > > Dag > > ___ Then leave. The HNIC (thats head nigga in charge) replied to you and gave you the answer. How is it his fault you arent 'creative'...scratch that, smart enough to understand? Heres a quote: > On Wednesday 14 December 2005 17:15, Joseph A. Caputo wrote: >> Sounds to me like maybe this isn't a dedicated Myth box and/or he >> doesn't have a separate disk/partition for Myth recordings. In which >> case, I say either bump up the amount of free space for Myth to honor, >> or get another disk. > > Right - and as long as the backend is running, it will autoexpire things if > _anything_ else wants the disk space. > > Isaac Issac said right there that as long as the backend is running, it will autexpire the space if ANYTHING wants it. Not just mythtv. Youre problem seems to be worrying about some other app using the same box and needing space. Youve been answered. Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled
> And I completely agree with the idea of being able to save a complete > show by pressing record, but is there any use for the older LiveTV > recordings You can already set the expiration of LiveTV recordings to happen 24 hours later, how much LiveTV can you watch in a day? So if you don't see a need for recordings older than 24 hours, then set Myth to delete them automatically. -- Chris Pinkham ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled
> I see your point and after Isaac's explanation some time ago I know that > it is close to what I want, but I still want to know how much of the Digicam > stuff I can download to the disk before I start doing it. Preferably without > expiring my recorded auto-expirable shows. Then maybe you should spend your time writing a patch that's been on my TODO list for a while. I want to add something to the disk space section of the mythfrontend status page. Right now it shows how much free space you have available and estimates how much recording time you have left. I want to add code to display how much space could be freed by autoexpiring LiveTV and normal recordings, so you can see how much true disk space you have and an estimate of the (estimated) true recording time you have left based on that. -- Chris Pinkham ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
> Dag Nygren wrote: > > Thanks for the tip, > > but this just doesn't work. > > The main disk space is needed by two things: MythTV and ie. a downloaded > > stream from my Digital video camera. > > The problem is that MythTV should be given as much as possible > > when it is not needed by the digicam, but when I need the space > > I need it. > > Putting these on different partitions will not share the space available. > > > Myth will expire programs as you fill the disk regardless of the > source. Set your autoexpire check time low and I don't believe you > could fill the disk fast enough to beat the expiration. All you're > really arguing about is your desire to expire things yourself which is > just silly. Myth will do it for you. Let it. I just want to know in advance it I need to find some other space for my big file. The upload can take quite some time; is it so silly trying to save that first attempt? Dag ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
> > I still cannot find an answer to the question: > > What are the features we gain here? > > not even rereading those answers three times. > > > Here's one. You're surfing, you watch a show, catch the last 5 > minutes. The show changes to a movie, you watch 2/3 of the movie and > fall asleep because you were so tired from working your day job. You > wake up, groggy, exit LiveTV, go to bed. You wake up and wish "man, I > would love to watch the end of that movie I missed." I see, I don't have this habit, so it didn't occur to me, but thanks for the answer. This is really all I have been asking for all the time (Yes, you can check the archives ;-) ) > Is that enough of a reason for you? Well, I don't need it, but I am sure it is enough. Just wish this "feature" would be optional. > Fact is, the product is designed to be used as a dedicated PVR. If you > are choosing to use your disk space for other things, then that's fine, > but it is unlikely that feature creep will occur enhancing just your > ability to do that. Changing the scale of that timer value from days to hours is hardly "feature" creep. > Myth already has settings for reserving X amount of > disk space which should be enough to give you a comfort zone for your > other activities on the partition. While you might not think one more > checkbox or a few lines of code matter, each one adds a tiny bit to the > clutter and complexity of the system and sometimes, it is better to > leave it out when already existing features can meet the same need. The MythVideo plugin just asks for the usage in my earlier postings though. Dag ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
> > Whats wrong with switch to delete after channel > > change? > > > Perhaps nothing, but then, no one has submitted such a patch. I would > venture that most working on this project do not use their myth boxes or > specifically, their media partitions, for anything other than Myth so > the complaints of filling the disk and/or space consumption are > irrelevant. MythTV does a perfectly good job of managing that disk, > freeing space when needed, and it even has settings for you to use that > will reserve disk space and never touch it if you do happen to need it > for "other projects". For all the complaints prior to this change about > why Myth can't save an in progress recording, when the solution is > implemented, it simply garners more complaints which I can only imagine > frustrates those who spent their time working on this at the request of > users who asked for it. That patch is perhaps not trivial as there might be timing issues involved when switching shows (this is already a problem), but setting the time limit with hour resolution is probably a lot easier. Reserving space is not good as Myth just might need that space at a time when it is not needed for other projects. And I completely agree with the idea of being able to save a complete show by pressing record, but is there any use for the older LiveTV recordings ? Dag ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
> Dag Nygren wrote: > >> Theres no need for it, all those little files can be hidden from view by > >> default and get deleted when room is needed automatically. > >> > > > > I stil would like to be able to use "df" to find out how much space > > I have left on the disk. > > > This always makes me ask...why? With your auto-expiration options set > (unless you never expire anything), Myth will perfectly manage your > space to make sure it removes old shows to make room for new. LiveTV > will be expired before anything else so it is irrelevant when > calculating "space" as it will be automatically removed when needed. > I'd spend a little more time configuring your expiration rules to match > your viewing behavior and a little less time worrying about the physical > disk space because the system is designed to manage that for you. I see your point and after Isaac's explanation some time ago I know that it is close to what I want, but I still want to know how much of the Digicam stuff I can download to the disk before I start doing it. Preferably without expiring my recorded auto-expirable shows. Dag ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Dag Nygren wrote: >> Dag, >> >> The best way to get *around* this issue is to have a dedicated >> partition for the myth recordings. That way, the old livetv files will >> be deleted much faster. You can keep your programs, archives, dvds, >> movies, downloads, torrents, etc on a separate partition(s). AFAIK, >> you can set the directory paths in the myth setup. Its little pain in >> the behind to setup separate partition, but atleast you will not boil >> your blood everytime you see gigabytes of livetv buffer sitting around >> on your precious disk space. >> > > Thanks for the tip, > but this just doesn't work. > The main disk space is needed by two things: MythTV and ie. a downloaded > stream from my Digital video camera. > The problem is that MythTV should be given as much as possible > when it is not needed by the digicam, but when I need the space > I need it. > Putting these on different partitions will not share the space available. > Myth will expire programs as you fill the disk regardless of the source. Set your autoexpire check time low and I don't believe you could fill the disk fast enough to beat the expiration. All you're really arguing about is your desire to expire things yourself which is just silly. Myth will do it for you. Let it. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Dag Nygren wrote: >> Dag Nygren wrote: >> I do feel that an option 'Delete LiveTV Recordings when changing channel' would be useful for many people. >>> Yep, >>> I already suggested changing the resolution of the setting >>> "Keep LiveTVthis long" to hours instead of days, but there >>> were no comments on that. >>> >>> I also tried to ask what the point was keeping the old LiveTV >>> recordings around just in case I am missing some nice feature >>> here, but was also there greeted with silence >>> >>> >> Does this silence include the 6 posts from Isaac alone on this thread >> you started? >> >> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/167388?167388 >> >> > > I still cannot find an answer to the question: > What are the features we gain here? > not even rereading those answers three times. > Here's one. You're surfing, you watch a show, catch the last 5 minutes. The show changes to a movie, you watch 2/3 of the movie and fall asleep because you were so tired from working your day job. You wake up, groggy, exit LiveTV, go to bed. You wake up and wish "man, I would love to watch the end of that movie I missed." BAM There it is, in the saved LiveTV buffer waiting for you to move it to another recording group for safe keeping. Is that enough of a reason for you? Fact is, the product is designed to be used as a dedicated PVR. If you are choosing to use your disk space for other things, then that's fine, but it is unlikely that feature creep will occur enhancing just your ability to do that. Myth already has settings for reserving X amount of disk space which should be enough to give you a comfort zone for your other activities on the partition. While you might not think one more checkbox or a few lines of code matter, each one adds a tiny bit to the clutter and complexity of the system and sometimes, it is better to leave it out when already existing features can meet the same need. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
> Dag, > > The best way to get *around* this issue is to have a dedicated > partition for the myth recordings. That way, the old livetv files will > be deleted much faster. You can keep your programs, archives, dvds, > movies, downloads, torrents, etc on a separate partition(s). AFAIK, > you can set the directory paths in the myth setup. Its little pain in > the behind to setup separate partition, but atleast you will not boil > your blood everytime you see gigabytes of livetv buffer sitting around > on your precious disk space. Thanks for the tip, but this just doesn't work. The main disk space is needed by two things: MythTV and ie. a downloaded stream from my Digital video camera. The problem is that MythTV should be given as much as possible when it is not needed by the digicam, but when I need the space I need it. Putting these on different partitions will not share the space available. > Also, this is more like a developer's project. The developer(s) > dictate which features are needed and how it should be implemented. > Always keep that in mind, it helps to lower your blood pressure. I've > found many work arounds in mythtv to keep my cool :-) > > In the end, if you dont like the way mythtv works, you are most > welcome to try other alternatives, such as Freevo, VDR (very light > weight), etc etc. I've just started looking at the VDR, its very light > weight and does only thing :-) I do like most of the way that MythTV do things. That is why I am sticking with it. What I don't like is the attitude on this list from certain people. Your response is a good example of a creative respons and IMHO the way a list should work so thanks for that. Dag ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Dag Nygren wrote: >> Theres no need for it, all those little files can be hidden from view by >> default and get deleted when room is needed automatically. >> > > I stil would like to be able to use "df" to find out how much space > I have left on the disk. > This always makes me ask...why? With your auto-expiration options set (unless you never expire anything), Myth will perfectly manage your space to make sure it removes old shows to make room for new. LiveTV will be expired before anything else so it is irrelevant when calculating "space" as it will be automatically removed when needed. I'd spend a little more time configuring your expiration rules to match your viewing behavior and a little less time worrying about the physical disk space because the system is designed to manage that for you. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
John Andersen wrote: > On 1/13/06, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >>> I do feel that an option 'Delete LiveTV Recordings when changing >>> channel' would be useful for many people. >>> >>> Chris >>> >> Theres no need for it, all those little files can be hidden from view by >> default and get deleted when room is needed automatically. >> >> -- >> Steve >> > > Just more crap to back up, requiring larger backup > devices, and wade thru while looking for something. > > There is no defensible reason to fill a disk with trash > just because you can delete it later when you need room. > > Some times people want room for other short term > projects without having to hunt up all their ring buffers > and delete them. > > I would have though that it was becoming obvious > by following a few of these threads that this is > a very unpopular feature. > > Whats wrong with switch to delete after channel > change? > Perhaps nothing, but then, no one has submitted such a patch. I would venture that most working on this project do not use their myth boxes or specifically, their media partitions, for anything other than Myth so the complaints of filling the disk and/or space consumption are irrelevant. MythTV does a perfectly good job of managing that disk, freeing space when needed, and it even has settings for you to use that will reserve disk space and never touch it if you do happen to need it for "other projects". For all the complaints prior to this change about why Myth can't save an in progress recording, when the solution is implemented, it simply garners more complaints which I can only imagine frustrates those who spent their time working on this at the request of users who asked for it. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
> Dag Nygren wrote: > >> I do feel that an option 'Delete LiveTV Recordings when changing > >> channel' would be useful for many people. > >> > > Yep, > > I already suggested changing the resolution of the setting > > "Keep LiveTVthis long" to hours instead of days, but there > > were no comments on that. > > > > I also tried to ask what the point was keeping the old LiveTV > > recordings around just in case I am missing some nice feature > > here, but was also there greeted with silence > > > Does this silence include the 6 posts from Isaac alone on this thread > you started? > > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/167388?167388 > I still cannot find an answer to the question: What are the features we gain here? not even rereading those answers three times. > (It's hard to exaggerate when there's an archive of the list.) Well, > since all you heard was silence, I can only assume you were blatantly > ignoring the posts that answered your questions. (I must be a slow > learner, because here I am responding to one of your posts--even though > it seems you'll ignore my response.) > > As it doesn't change any logic in Myth the patch is trivial > > and even I can do it if anyone is interested. > Yes, I'm interested. Please write the patch, apply it to your own > builds of MythTV, and end this discussion. > > Isaac has made it clear that such patches will not be applied to the > main branch, so if you really think you need this functionality, you can > maintain it yourself. If it's really so trivial, it won't be a problem > for you (and, every post you continue to make on this subject is that > much less time you can spend writing the "trivial" patch for your > install of Myth). :-)) Dag ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Dag, The best way to get *around* this issue is to have a dedicated partition for the myth recordings. That way, the old livetv files will be deleted much faster. You can keep your programs, archives, dvds, movies, downloads, torrents, etc on a separate partition(s). AFAIK, you can set the directory paths in the myth setup. Its little pain in the behind to setup separate partition, but atleast you will not boil your blood everytime you see gigabytes of livetv buffer sitting around on your precious disk space. Also, this is more like a developer's project. The developer(s) dictate which features are needed and how it should be implemented. Always keep that in mind, it helps to lower your blood pressure. I've found many work arounds in mythtv to keep my cool :-) In the end, if you dont like the way mythtv works, you are most welcome to try other alternatives, such as Freevo, VDR (very light weight), etc etc. I've just started looking at the VDR, its very light weight and does only thing :-) Thanks Mudit On 1/14/06, Michael T. Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dag Nygren wrote: > >> I do feel that an option 'Delete LiveTV Recordings when changing > >> channel' would be useful for many people. > >> > > Yep, > > I already suggested changing the resolution of the setting > > "Keep LiveTVthis long" to hours instead of days, but there > > were no comments on that. > > > > I also tried to ask what the point was keeping the old LiveTV > > recordings around just in case I am missing some nice feature > > here, but was also there greeted with silence > > > Does this silence include the 6 posts from Isaac alone on this thread > you started? > > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/167388?167388 > > (It's hard to exaggerate when there's an archive of the list.) Well, > since all you heard was silence, I can only assume you were blatantly > ignoring the posts that answered your questions. (I must be a slow > learner, because here I am responding to one of your posts--even though > it seems you'll ignore my response.) > > As it doesn't change any logic in Myth the patch is trivial > > and even I can do it if anyone is interested. > Yes, I'm interested. Please write the patch, apply it to your own > builds of MythTV, and end this discussion. > > Isaac has made it clear that such patches will not be applied to the > main branch, so if you really think you need this functionality, you can > maintain it yourself. If it's really so trivial, it won't be a problem > for you (and, every post you continue to make on this subject is that > much less time you can spend writing the "trivial" patch for your > install of Myth). > > Mike > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Dag Nygren wrote: >> I do feel that an option 'Delete LiveTV Recordings when changing >> channel' would be useful for many people. >> > Yep, > I already suggested changing the resolution of the setting > "Keep LiveTVthis long" to hours instead of days, but there > were no comments on that. > > I also tried to ask what the point was keeping the old LiveTV > recordings around just in case I am missing some nice feature > here, but was also there greeted with silence > Does this silence include the 6 posts from Isaac alone on this thread you started? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/167388?167388 (It's hard to exaggerate when there's an archive of the list.) Well, since all you heard was silence, I can only assume you were blatantly ignoring the posts that answered your questions. (I must be a slow learner, because here I am responding to one of your posts--even though it seems you'll ignore my response.) > As it doesn't change any logic in Myth the patch is trivial > and even I can do it if anyone is interested. Yes, I'm interested. Please write the patch, apply it to your own builds of MythTV, and end this discussion. Isaac has made it clear that such patches will not be applied to the main branch, so if you really think you need this functionality, you can maintain it yourself. If it's really so trivial, it won't be a problem for you (and, every post you continue to make on this subject is that much less time you can spend writing the "trivial" patch for your install of Myth). Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
On 1/13/06, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I do feel that an option 'Delete LiveTV Recordings when changing > > channel' would be useful for many people. > > > > Chris > > Theres no need for it, all those little files can be hidden from view by > default and get deleted when room is needed automatically. > > -- > Steve Just more crap to back up, requiring larger backup devices, and wade thru while looking for something. There is no defensible reason to fill a disk with trash just because you can delete it later when you need room. Some times people want room for other short term projects without having to hunt up all their ring buffers and delete them. I would have though that it was becoming obvious by following a few of these threads that this is a very unpopular feature. Whats wrong with switch to delete after channel change? -- --JSA- ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
> Dag Nygren wrote: > > As it doesn't change any logic in Myth the patch is trivial > > and even I can do it if anyone is interested. > The only change that anyone will notice with the extra recordings is the > added functionality of having the LiveTV recording group, and possibly > an average over-all increase in disk usage (which if you are not > recording anything shouldn't change, and if you are will keep increasing > as per usual). And once more I will ask: What is that extra functionality??? I really want to know! Dag ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
> Dag Nygren wrote: > >>Theres no need for it, all those little files can be hidden from view by > >>default and get deleted when room is needed automatically. > > > > > > I stil would like to be able to use "df" to find out how much space > > I have left on the disk. > > I can assure you the LiveTV re-write has not changed the functionality > of the df utility. As I also use the same box as a download repository I REALLY want to know how much space I have left on the disk when ssh:ing into it. Why can't you guys get off your high horses and see that your precious PVR box really might/can do other things too and start listening and getting constructive instead of flaming anyone that has a different opinion than you. We do have brains too, you know. > What you really want to do is gauge how much space is being used by > MythTV, not how much space is left on the disk. No, not really. What I want is to share the space between MythTV and other applications. > Setup your minimum free space parameter and you will *know* how much > space is available for new recordings. Not. As there will be more space available when the LiveTV stuff is included. > Hell, set it to bigger than your disk size and Myth will be deleting > LiveTV stuff every time the auto-expire runs. That will also kill other recordings that are marked for autoexpire. Dag ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a sc heduled recording
> Theres no need for it, all those little files can be hidden from view by > default and get deleted when room is needed automatically. I stil would like to be able to use "df" to find out how much space I have left on the disk. Dag ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Dag Nygren wrote: >>Theres no need for it, all those little files can be hidden from view by >>default and get deleted when room is needed automatically. > > > I stil would like to be able to use "df" to find out how much space > I have left on the disk. I can assure you the LiveTV re-write has not changed the functionality of the df utility. What you really want to do is gauge how much space is being used by MythTV, not how much space is left on the disk. Setup your minimum free space parameter and you will *know* how much space is available for new recordings. Hell, set it to bigger than your disk size and Myth will be deleting LiveTV stuff every time the auto-expire runs. Johan ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Dag Nygren wrote: > As it doesn't change any logic in Myth the patch is trivial > and even I can do it if anyone is interested. As it doesn't make any difference to whether your disk fills up quicker what is the point? LiveTV recordings are automatically expired to make way for scheduled shows and to keep the minimum amount of disk space specified free I don't understand why so many people are complaining about this? MythTV is a PVR and should treat your hardware as such. This is the way PVRs work. The only change that anyone will notice with the extra recordings is the added functionality of having the LiveTV recording group, and possibly an average over-all increase in disk usage (which if you are not recording anything shouldn't change, and if you are will keep increasing as per usual). Set it up properly and it shouldn't cause you any grief. It seems a lot of people are having a conceptual problem here. Johan ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
> I do feel that an option 'Delete LiveTV Recordings when changing > channel' would be useful for many people. Yep, I already suggested changing the resolution of the setting "Keep LiveTVthis long" to hours instead of days, but there were no comments on that. I also tried to ask what the point was keeping the old LiveTV recordings around just in case I am missing some nice feature here, but was also there greeted with silence As it doesn't change any logic in Myth the patch is trivial and even I can do it if anyone is interested. Dag ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
On 1/13/06, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 13 January 2006 07:04, SpEnT wrote:> On 1/12/06, Johan Venter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > SpEnT wrote:> > > I'm not sure if there's something I may have done but after upgrading > > > to svn 8566, everytime I watch TV it recods what I'm watching and> > > keeps the file. I ran a watch -n1 where I store my recorded programs> > > and everyimte I changed the channel it adds a new mpg file as an > > > example heres a file listing:> >> > This is how LiveTV works now. I know it's a standard response, but if> > you're going to run SVN, you need to be following the dev list. > >> > > This was just changing channels and it fills up the directory where I> > > store my recordings. Does anyone have any ideas why it would be doing> > > this or what I might have to change to fix it? Any help is > > > appreciated!!> >> > If you have your LiveTV auto-expire settings correct, you will never run> > out of disk space - it will delete the oldest LiveTV recordings based on > > your preferences to make room for actual scheduled recordings.>> I'm just going to use an older version. While watching live TV> sometimes when it gets to the end of a program the screen just freezes > and I have to exit out and start live TV again (I was wondering why it> always seemed to freeze right at 1/2 past the hour or right on thethis is the new ringbuffer change, its closing out the old ringbuffer for the show you were watching and creating the new one for the new show. The dev'sare working on minimizing the time delay, and some circumstances (mostly withPVR cards but I think this bug may have been fixed already) have led this to cause a freeze, though newer SVN's may already have this fixed (I've onlynoticed the freeze happen once in watching Live TV so I feel lucky).> hour), plus now in the listings for recorded programs in Mythweb I > show 50 files ;) ... some of them are really small ones due to only> watching a channel for a few minuntes. I've saved some older versions> that worked the old way so I'll stop using svn.MythWeb is also going to be/already has been updated to have a similar option to ignore the livetv recordings.> Either way thanks for he info :)Will the option to hide the live TV recordings completely hide the recordings or will they simply be hidden in the "All Recordings" section, with a "Live TV" section on left with the show names? -- I probably still have a few (well, now a whole bunch) gmail invites.Drop me a line (off list) if you'd like an account. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
On Friday 13 January 2006 07:04, SpEnT wrote: > On 1/12/06, Johan Venter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SpEnT wrote: > > > I'm not sure if there's something I may have done but after upgrading > > > to svn 8566, everytime I watch TV it recods what I'm watching and > > > keeps the file. I ran a watch -n1 where I store my recorded programs > > > and everyimte I changed the channel it adds a new mpg file as an > > > example heres a file listing: > > > > This is how LiveTV works now. I know it's a standard response, but if > > you're going to run SVN, you need to be following the dev list. > > > > > This was just changing channels and it fills up the directory where I > > > store my recordings. Does anyone have any ideas why it would be doing > > > this or what I might have to change to fix it? Any help is > > > appreciated!! > > > > If you have your LiveTV auto-expire settings correct, you will never run > > out of disk space - it will delete the oldest LiveTV recordings based on > > your preferences to make room for actual scheduled recordings. > > I'm just going to use an older version. While watching live TV > sometimes when it gets to the end of a program the screen just freezes > and I have to exit out and start live TV again (I was wondering why it > always seemed to freeze right at 1/2 past the hour or right on the this is the new ringbuffer change, its closing out the old ringbuffer for the show you were watching and creating the new one for the new show. The dev's are working on minimizing the time delay, and some circumstances (mostly with PVR cards but I think this bug may have been fixed already) have led this to cause a freeze, though newer SVN's may already have this fixed (I've only noticed the freeze happen once in watching Live TV so I feel lucky). > hour), plus now in the listings for recorded programs in Mythweb I > show 50 files ;) ... some of them are really small ones due to only > watching a channel for a few minuntes. I've saved some older versions > that worked the old way so I'll stop using svn. MythWeb is also going to be/already has been updated to have a similar option to ignore the livetv recordings. > Either way thanks for he info :) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a sc heduled recording
On Friday 13 January 2006 07:34, Chris Picton wrote: > On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 06:04 -0600, SpEnT wrote: > > > > This was just changing channels and it fills up the directory where I > > > > store my recordings. Does anyone have any ideas why it would be doing > > > > this or what I might have to change to fix it? Any help is > > > > appreciated!! > > > > > > If you have your LiveTV auto-expire settings correct, you will never > > > run out of disk space - it will delete the oldest LiveTV recordings > > > based on your preferences to make room for actual scheduled recordings. > > I do feel that an option 'Delete LiveTV Recordings when changing > channel' would be useful for many people. > > Chris Theres no need for it, all those little files can be hidden from view by default and get deleted when room is needed automatically. -- Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 06:04 -0600, SpEnT wrote: > > > > > This was just changing channels and it fills up the directory where I > > > store my recordings. Does anyone have any ideas why it would be doing > > > this or what I might have to change to fix it? Any help is > > > appreciated!! > > > > If you have your LiveTV auto-expire settings correct, you will never run > > out of disk space - it will delete the oldest LiveTV recordings based on > > your preferences to make room for actual scheduled recordings. I do feel that an option 'Delete LiveTV Recordings when changing channel' would be useful for many people. Chris ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Thanks Johan, I'm just going to use an older version. While watching live TV sometimes when it gets to the end of a program the screen just freezes and I have to exit out and start live TV again (I was wondering why it always seemed to freeze right at 1/2 past the hour or right on the hour), plus now in the listings for recorded programs in Mythweb I show 50 files ;) ... some of them are really small ones due to only watching a channel for a few minuntes. I've saved some older versions that worked the old way so I'll stop using svn. Either way thanks for he info :) On 1/12/06, Johan Venter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SpEnT wrote: > > I'm not sure if there's something I may have done but after upgrading > > to svn 8566, everytime I watch TV it recods what I'm watching and > > keeps the file. I ran a watch -n1 where I store my recorded programs > > and everyimte I changed the channel it adds a new mpg file as an > > example heres a file listing: > > This is how LiveTV works now. I know it's a standard response, but if > you're going to run SVN, you need to be following the dev list. > > > This was just changing channels and it fills up the directory where I > > store my recordings. Does anyone have any ideas why it would be doing > > this or what I might have to change to fix it? Any help is > > appreciated!! > > If you have your LiveTV auto-expire settings correct, you will never run > out of disk space - it will delete the oldest LiveTV recordings based on > your preferences to make room for actual scheduled recordings. > > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
SpEnT wrote: > I'm not sure if there's something I may have done but after upgrading > to svn 8566, everytime I watch TV it recods what I'm watching and > keeps the file. I ran a watch -n1 where I store my recorded programs > and everyimte I changed the channel it adds a new mpg file as an > example heres a file listing: This is how LiveTV works now. I know it's a standard response, but if you're going to run SVN, you need to be following the dev list. > This was just changing channels and it fills up the directory where I > store my recordings. Does anyone have any ideas why it would be doing > this or what I might have to change to fix it? Any help is > appreciated!! If you have your LiveTV auto-expire settings correct, you will never run out of disk space - it will delete the oldest LiveTV recordings based on your preferences to make room for actual scheduled recordings. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
On 1/12/06, Drew Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know nothing about this other than there have been a few previous > threads regarding the same issue. The replies were along the lines of > "if you're going to run SVN, then you better follow the dev list". So > obviously this was an announced change and Google should be of assistance. Well I did some digging before I posted this but the way I'm describing it or the way I'm searching is giving me nothing. I'll try again in the archives and see if anything hits. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
On 1/12/2006 4:42 PM SpEnT said the following: >I'm not sure if there's something I may have done but after upgrading >to svn 8566, everytime I watch TV it recods what I'm watching and >keeps the file. I ran a watch -n1 where I store my recorded programs >and everyimte I changed the channel it adds a new mpg file as an >example heres a file listing: > >630M Jan 12 18:31 1023_20060112181401.mpg >7.8M Jan 12 18:40 1145_20060112183956.mpg >4.6M Jan 12 18:40 1125_20060112184015.mpg >11M Jan 12 18:40 1127_20060112184025.mpg >5.4M Jan 12 18:40 1045_20060112184042.mpg > >This was just changing channels and it fills up the directory where I >store my recordings. Does anyone have any ideas why it would be doing >this or what I might have to change to fix it? Any help is >appreciated!! > I know nothing about this other than there have been a few previous threads regarding the same issue. The replies were along the lines of "if you're going to run SVN, then you better follow the dev list". So obviously this was an announced change and Google should be of assistance. Cheers, Drew ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV with knoppixmyth liveCD
On 12/7/05, Angel Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I am to understand this correctly, in any myth setup, from one machine to > 50 machines, any type of input signal, needs to go through a backend? > Yes. In short, the BE manages tuner/recording devices and maintains the MySQL database. The FE displays recordings made on the BE, or plays whatever media through the MythTV Plugins -- MythVideo, MythMusic, etc. The FE and BE have to talk to each other for any of the TV functions to work. Without a BE, there is no way for MythTV to record anything or to maintain a db. There is no way to 'pass through' a TV signal -- it has to be encoded and written to disk, then decoded and displayed. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV with knoppixmyth liveCD
If I am to understand this correctly, in any myth setup, from one machine to 50 machines, any type of input signal, needs to go through a backend?On 12/7/05, Dewey Smolka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/7/05, Angel Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I have a capture card with the bt878 chip on it - What I want to do, is to> run a knoppixmyth live CD, and have this machine display the output of this > card on screen. I don't want any recording, just direct output - Is this> possible using the LIVE cd?>No. Any recording (and Live TV is a recording) requires a backend. Abackend requires an install. The KnoppMyth Live CD can be used to run a frontend off the CD (no install) but you need a backend on yournetwork to connect to.___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV with knoppixmyth liveCD
On 12/7/05, Angel Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a capture card with the bt878 chip on it - What I want to do, is to > run a knoppixmyth live CD, and have this machine display the output of this > card on screen. I don't want any recording, just direct output - Is this > possible using the LIVE cd? > No. Any recording (and Live TV is a recording) requires a backend. A backend requires an install. The KnoppMyth Live CD can be used to run a frontend off the CD (no install) but you need a backend on your network to connect to. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV won't change channel
Ronald - You are a total Star Thank you so very much. That did the trick for me. -- Patrick On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 22:07 +0100, Ronald Wielink wrote: > Patrick, > try multiplying your frequencies by 1000. that did it for me... > > Regards, > Ronald > > On 11/25/05, Patrick Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hopefully this will come through better! Sorry once again. > > > The content of my 'Channel' table is; > > ++-+-+--+--+--+ > | chanid | channum | freqid | sourceid | callsign |name > | > > ++-+-+--+--+--+ > | 1001 | 1 | 551.250 |1 | 1001 | > BBC1Scotland > | > | 1002 | 2 | 519.250 |1 | 1002 | > BBC2Scotland > | > | 1004 | 4 | 471.250 |1 | 1004 | Channel4 > | > | 1005 | 5 | 687.250 |1 | 1005 |Five > | > | 1003 | 3 | 495.250 |1 | 1003 | ITV1 > Scottish | > > ++-+-+--+--+--+ > > > > > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV won't change channel
Hopefully this will come through better! Sorry once again. The content of my 'Channel' table is; ++-+-+--+--+--+ | chanid | channum | freqid | sourceid | callsign |name | ++-+-+--+--+--+ | 1001 | 1 | 551.250 |1 | 1001 | BBC1Scotland | | 1002 | 2 | 519.250 |1 | 1002 | BBC2Scotland | | 1004 | 4 | 471.250 |1 | 1004 | Channel4 | | 1005 | 5 | 687.250 |1 | 1005 |Five | | 1003 | 3 | 495.250 |1 | 1003 | ITV1 Scottish | ++-+-+--+--+--+ ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV won't change channel
Apologies to the group for the formatting of my previous post. -- Patrick ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV won't change channel
> Go into the channel editor and make sure you have valid UK channel > numbers for the 5 channels you have defined (i.e. between 20-69). E6 > is I think a European channel number, which is why you are getting the > error messages. I assume since you are getting some video, you > currently have the Tuner0 configured against a video source (analog TV > channels?) > > If you make sure you have the correct XMLTVIDs for each channel, you > should be able to get listings too. > > Nick Thanks for the reply Nick. This is what I have in the 'channels' table in the database. I have put the frequencies in place if the ID's (Thanks Ronald) but I still get the same results. 1001 1 551.250 1 1001 BBC1 Scotland 0 scotland.bbc1.bbc.co.uk 0 32768 32768 32768 32768 Default 0 1 0 NULL NULL NULL 1002 2 519.250 1 1002 BBC2 Scotland 0 scotland.bbc2.bbc.co.uk 0 32768 32768 32768 32768 Default 0 1 0 NULL NULL NULL 1004 4 471.250 1 1004 Channel 4 0 channel4.com 0 32768 32768 32768 32768 Default 0 1 0 NULL NULL NULL 1005 5 687.250 1 1005 Five 0 channel5.co.uk 0 32768 32768 32768 32768 Default 0 1 0 NULL NULL NULL 1003 3 495.250 1 1003 ITV1 Border Scottish 0 scottish.border-tv.com 0 32768 32768 32768 32768 Default 0 1 0 NULL NULL NULL I was expecting to see some strange entries, but it all looks ok to me (but I know zilch about this stuff) One of the things I don't understand is - when I try to change channel and get the 'Please verify channel' error. It mentions a lot of channels. The list in my first posts was just a snippit. Using ivtv-tune to find my channels I used the following; ivtv-tune -teurope-west -c31 -d/dev/video0 This gave me 551.250Mhz and the channel was BBC1 ivtv-tune -teurope-west -c27 -d/dev/video0 This gave me 519.250Mhz and the channel was BBC2 ivtv-tune -teurope-west -c24 -d/dev/video0 This gave me 495.250Mhz and the channel was ITV ivtv-tune -teurope-west -c21 -d/dev/video0 This gave me 471.250Mhz and the channel was Ch4 ivtv-tune -teurope-west -c48 -d/dev/video0 This gave me 687.250Mhz and the channel was Five Does the content of my 'channel' table look ok? Any more suggestions would be most welcome - as I'm at a loss to know what to try next. -- Patrick ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV won't change channel
Patrick, I had a similar problem. In my case, entering the frequencies (in Khz!!!) rather than the channel numbers did the trick. Good luck, Ronald On 11/25/05, Patrick Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi,I've just install MythTV on my Ubuntu 'Breezy' system. It is doingeverything it should except change channel when watching Live TV. Instead the mythbackend logs the following;2005-11-25 00:50:08.447 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed.Please verify channel "E6" in the "setup" Channel Editor.2005-11-25 00:50: 08.448 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed.Please verify channel "E5" in the "setup" Channel Editor.2005-11-25 00:50:08.449 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed.Please verify channel "S03" in the "setup" Channel Editor. 2005-11-25 00:50:08.451 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed.Please verify channel "S02" in the "setup" Channel Editor.2005-11-25 00:50:08.452 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "S01" in the "setup" Channel Editor.2005-11-25 00:50:08.453 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed.Please verify channel "E4" in the "setup" Channel Editor. 2005-11-25 00:50:08.454 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed.Please verify channel "E3" in the "setup" Channel Editor.2005-11-25 00:50:08.455 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "E2" in the "setup" Channel Editor.2005-11-25 00:50:08.456 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed.Please verify channel "69" in the "setup" Channel Editor. 2005-11-25 00:50:08.457 Error, couldn't find any available channels.2005-11-25 00:50:08.457 Your database is most likely setup incorrectly.What I have installed is;MythTV 0.18.1-5lirc 0.7.2 IVTV 0.4.0xmltv 0.5.40-1mysql-server 4.0.24-10Kernel 2.6.12-10-k7Hauppauge PVR-150 (Retail)No TV out card. This is a bedroom Pc/TV.Whatever I set as the 'default' channel is used and works when I watch live TV - I just can't change to another channel.I'm in the UK and so I'm using xmltv. I only have five channels enteredinto Mythtv as I've not got round to getting a 'sender' for my STBdownstairs. Can anyone give me a help with this one.--Patrick___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV won't change channel
On 25/11/05, Patrick Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I've just install MythTV on my Ubuntu 'Breezy' system. It is doing > everything it should except change channel when watching Live TV. > Instead the mythbackend logs the following; > > 2005-11-25 00:50:08.447 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. > Please verify channel "E6" in the "setup" Channel Editor. > 2005-11-25 00:50:08.448 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. > Please verify channel "E5" in the "setup" Channel Editor. > 2005-11-25 00:50:08.449 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. > Please verify channel "S03" in the "setup" Channel Editor. > 2005-11-25 00:50:08.451 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. > Please verify channel "S02" in the "setup" Channel Editor. > 2005-11-25 00:50:08.452 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. > Please verify channel "S01" in the "setup" Channel Editor. > 2005-11-25 00:50:08.453 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. > Please verify channel "E4" in the "setup" Channel Editor. > 2005-11-25 00:50:08.454 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. > Please verify channel "E3" in the "setup" Channel Editor. > 2005-11-25 00:50:08.455 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. > Please verify channel "E2" in the "setup" Channel Editor. > 2005-11-25 00:50:08.456 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. > Please verify channel "69" in the "setup" Channel Editor. > 2005-11-25 00:50:08.457 Error, couldn't find any available channels. > 2005-11-25 00:50:08.457 Your database is most likely setup incorrectly. > > What I have installed is; > > MythTV 0.18.1-5 > lirc 0.7.2 > IVTV 0.4.0 > xmltv 0.5.40-1 > mysql-server 4.0.24-10 > Kernel 2.6.12-10-k7 > Hauppauge PVR-150 (Retail) > > No TV out card. This is a bedroom Pc/TV. > > Whatever I set as the 'default' channel is used and works when I watch > live TV - I just can't change to another channel. > > I'm in the UK and so I'm using xmltv. I only have five channels entered > into Mythtv as I've not got round to getting a 'sender' for my STB > downstairs. > > Can anyone give me a help with this one. Go into the channel editor and make sure you have valid UK channel numbers for the 5 channels you have defined (i.e. between 20-69). E6 is I think a European channel number, which is why you are getting the error messages. I assume since you are getting some video, you currently have the Tuner0 configured against a video source (analog TV channels?) If you make sure you have the correct XMLTVIDs for each channel, you should be able to get listings too. Nick ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Live-TV: Segmentation fault
> > Hi, > Would you have any idea about this kind of seg fault. I'm using myth > svn. Or should the Live-TV even work at all in svn? > > 2005-11-24 20:52:22.880 DVB#0 DVB SI Table Parser Started > 2005-11-24 20:52:23.458 Preview Error: Run() file not local: > 'myth://127.0.0.1:6543/1001_20051124205222.mpg' > 2005-11-24 20:52:23.564 DVB#0 CA: SetPMT for ServiceID=1 > Have a look on Trac. Ticket #689 refers to zero byte recordings with DVB, a side effect of which is a segfault on entering Lice TV. Cheers, Jon ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Live-TV: Segmentation fault
I am seeing exactly the same thing, not much help I know, but at least you know you are not alone -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Ellis Sent: Friday, 25 November 2005 6:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Discussion about mythtv' Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Live-TV: Segmentation fault Do you have a /mythtv/recordings directory with sufficient disk space and read/write priveleges (for the user running mythbackend)? David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mika Orajärvi Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 1:57 PM To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org Subject: [mythtv-users] Live-TV: Segmentation fault Hi, Would you have any idea about this kind of seg fault. I'm using myth svn. Or should the Live-TV even work at all in svn? --- Frontend log: 2005-11-24 20:52:22.168 Invalid file handle when opening /mythtv/recordings/1001_20051124205222.mpg. 6 retries remaining. 0: start_time: 857.475 duration: -9223372036854.775 stream: start_time: 9527.500 duration: -9223372036854.775 bitrate=0 kb/s 2005-11-24 20:52:23.968 AFD: Opened codec 0x8337230, id(MPEG1VIDEO) type(Video) 2005-11-24 20:52:25.929 TV: Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV 2005-11-24 20:52:25.950 Realtime priority would require SUID as root. 2005-11-24 20:52:26.005 Video timing method: USleep with busy wait 2005-11-24 20:52:26.906 Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. 2005-11-24 20:52:27.322 NVP: prebuffering pause 2005-11-24 20:52:27.588 NVP: prebuffering pause 2005-11-24 20:52:27.887 NVP: prebuffering pause 2005-11-24 20:52:28.253 NVP: prebuffering pause 2005-11-24 20:52:28.885 NVP: prebuffering pause 2005-11-24 20:52:29.173 NVP: prebuffering pause 2005-11-24 20:52:29.433 NVP: prebuffering pause 2005-11-24 20:52:29.728 NVP: prebuffering pause 2005-11-24 20:52:29.777 Invalid file handle when opening /mythtv/recordings/1001_20051124205223.mpg. 4 retries remaining. 2005-11-24 20:52:30.278 Invalid file handle when opening /mythtv/recordings/1001_20051124205223.mpg. 3 retries remaining. 2005-11-24 20:52:30.630 Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. 2005-11-24 20:52:30.780 Invalid file handle when opening /mythtv/recordings/1001_20051124205223.mpg. 2 retries remaining. 2005-11-24 20:52:31.282 Invalid file handle when opening /mythtv/recordings/1001_20051124205223.mpg. 1 retries remaining. 2005-11-24 20:52:31.532 Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. 2005-11-24 20:52:31.784 Invalid file handle when opening /mythtv/recordings/1001_20051124205223.mpg. 0 retries remaining. 2005-11-24 20:52:32.289 RingBuf(/mythtv/recordings/1001_20051124205223.mpg) Error: File I/O problem in 'safe_read()' Segmentation fault And the Backend log: 2005-11-24 20:52:22.037 TVRec(1): Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV 2005-11-24 20:52:22.037 GetStartChannel cardid:'1', defaultainput:'DVBInput' 2005-11-24 20:52:22.880 DVB#0 DVB SI Table Parser Started 2005-11-24 20:52:23.458 Preview Error: Run() file not local: 'myth://127.0.0.1:6543/1001_20051124205222.mpg' 2005-11-24 20:52:23.564 DVB#0 CA: SetPMT for ServiceID=1 ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Live-TV: Segmentation fault
Do you have a /mythtv/recordings directory with sufficient disk space and read/write priveleges (for the user running mythbackend)? David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mika Orajärvi Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 1:57 PM To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org Subject: [mythtv-users] Live-TV: Segmentation fault Hi, Would you have any idea about this kind of seg fault. I'm using myth svn. Or should the Live-TV even work at all in svn? --- Frontend log: 2005-11-24 20:52:22.168 Invalid file handle when opening /mythtv/recordings/1001_20051124205222.mpg. 6 retries remaining. 0: start_time: 857.475 duration: -9223372036854.775 stream: start_time: 9527.500 duration: -9223372036854.775 bitrate=0 kb/s 2005-11-24 20:52:23.968 AFD: Opened codec 0x8337230, id(MPEG1VIDEO) type(Video) 2005-11-24 20:52:25.929 TV: Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV 2005-11-24 20:52:25.950 Realtime priority would require SUID as root. 2005-11-24 20:52:26.005 Video timing method: USleep with busy wait 2005-11-24 20:52:26.906 Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. 2005-11-24 20:52:27.322 NVP: prebuffering pause 2005-11-24 20:52:27.588 NVP: prebuffering pause 2005-11-24 20:52:27.887 NVP: prebuffering pause 2005-11-24 20:52:28.253 NVP: prebuffering pause 2005-11-24 20:52:28.885 NVP: prebuffering pause 2005-11-24 20:52:29.173 NVP: prebuffering pause 2005-11-24 20:52:29.433 NVP: prebuffering pause 2005-11-24 20:52:29.728 NVP: prebuffering pause 2005-11-24 20:52:29.777 Invalid file handle when opening /mythtv/recordings/1001_20051124205223.mpg. 4 retries remaining. 2005-11-24 20:52:30.278 Invalid file handle when opening /mythtv/recordings/1001_20051124205223.mpg. 3 retries remaining. 2005-11-24 20:52:30.630 Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. 2005-11-24 20:52:30.780 Invalid file handle when opening /mythtv/recordings/1001_20051124205223.mpg. 2 retries remaining. 2005-11-24 20:52:31.282 Invalid file handle when opening /mythtv/recordings/1001_20051124205223.mpg. 1 retries remaining. 2005-11-24 20:52:31.532 Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. 2005-11-24 20:52:31.784 Invalid file handle when opening /mythtv/recordings/1001_20051124205223.mpg. 0 retries remaining. 2005-11-24 20:52:32.289 RingBuf(/mythtv/recordings/1001_20051124205223.mpg) Error: File I/O problem in 'safe_read()' Segmentation fault And the Backend log: 2005-11-24 20:52:22.037 TVRec(1): Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV 2005-11-24 20:52:22.037 GetStartChannel cardid:'1', defaultainput:'DVBInput' 2005-11-24 20:52:22.880 DVB#0 DVB SI Table Parser Started 2005-11-24 20:52:23.458 Preview Error: Run() file not local: 'myth://127.0.0.1:6543/1001_20051124205222.mpg' 2005-11-24 20:52:23.564 DVB#0 CA: SetPMT for ServiceID=1 ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] LIve TV and changing channels -- unstable
--- Norm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I change the channel 3 or more times, the backend 'forgets' to > change > the channel and the frontend gets stuck waiting for data that will > never > arrive. I typically have to restart both. > > Is this a typical problem with DVB or is there something more stable > out > there? I can record from different stations and it has no problems > jumping to the right station to record... You know I have a similar problem, using a Matrox Marvel G400-TV plugged into analog cable. If I channel-flip aggressively (not always three times), then after a while, the screen goes black, the frontend and backend both hang and need to be restarted. However, I can channel-flip aggressively with my PVR-250 (analog again), without problem. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV on all desktops?
On 17/09/05, Gary Montalbine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have just installed Mythtv. I am able to get live TV on one desktop. > However I use multiple desktops and would like to watch TV on whatever > desktop I happen to be in. Is this possible? I can not find anything in > the documentation. I am using ML 2005LE and mythtv 0.18.1. No. This is a limitation of the hardware, not of the software. As most (If not all) graphics cards only support overlays on a single "Head", and Myth (as does most other video playback software) requires Video Overlays to display any kind of video. Sorry. -- Robert "Anaerin" Johnston ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV and backend
On 13/09/05, Joseph A. Caputo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 13 September 2005 13:08, PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote: > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/13/05 10:58 AM >>> > > > > A car with an IR header would not be very useful... > > Sure it would... can you say "full-size remote control car"? :-) Current reports suggest that running it on Windows will result in many more crashes. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV and backend
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 13:08, PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote: > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/13/05 10:58 AM >>> > > A car with an IR header would not be very useful... Sure it would... can you say "full-size remote control car"? :-) -JAC ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV and backend
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/13/05 10:58 AM >>> PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote: >recorded programs from in the same machine. I know it >cuts down on costs, but it would be really nice if someone >would produce a car that *only* has the IR header on it. > > Small edit... should say: "would produce a card that *only* has the IR header on it." A car with an IR header would not be very useful... LOL... Paul ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV and backend
PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/13/05 9:29 AM >>> If not, how does LIRC work to change channels when surfing? Is it something like: Remote>LIRC-frontend>Mythtv-frontend>Mythtv-backend> LIRC-backend>cablebox#1 The LIRC thing is a problem if you don't have an IR receiver on your frontend. That's what I've always found odd - the PVR card manufacturers assume that you'll have the PC with the PVR card in it and the PC you want to watch the recorded programs from in the same machine. I know it cuts down on costs, but it would be really nice if someone would produce a car that *only* has the IR header on it. Yeah. It's almost like they're designing those things to work in some operating system to which networking was added as an afterthought and for which distributed PVR functionality doesn't exist... ;) (OK, there's Media Center Extender/Media Center Extender for XBox, but even with those, the Media Center PC is still meant to be a frontend as well as a backend.) Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV and backend
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/13/05 9:29 AM >>> > I have just setup my first Mythtv box with frontend and backend > on the same PC. I'm planning a separate backend configuration > and I was wondering if I need a capture card in my frontend to > watch live tv if I have a backend setup with multiple PVR cards? > If not, how does LIRC work to change channels when surfing? > Is it something like: > Remote>LIRC-frontend>Mythtv-frontend>Mythtv-backend> > LIRC-backend>cablebox#1 Congratulations and welcome to the fold... No, you do not need a capture card ion your frontend. The backend is a backend because that is where the capture cards go. The LIRC thing is a problem if you don't have an IR receiver on your frontend. That's what I've always found odd - the PVR card manufacturers assume that you'll have the PC with the PVR card in it and the PC you want to watch the recorded programs from in the same machine. I know it cuts down on costs, but it would be really nice if someone would produce a car that *only* has the IR header on it. There are a few places that sell you an IR receiver - some professionally built and some not, while there are tons of places on the internet (like lirc.org) that give you the wiring schematics for building your own. I totally bypassed all that hassle and have a PS/2 style IR receiver and an "Airboard". I've programmed my MX-500/700 and JP-1 remote controls to transmit the keyboard commands. I only break out the keyboard when I revert to using Gaim or Star Office on my TV. Other than that, my 6 year old can use the remote to do anything. HTH, Paul ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV and backend
Henry Fleischmann wrote: I have just setup my first Mythtv box with frontend and backend on the same PC. I'm planning a separate backend configuration and I was wondering if I need a capture card in my frontend to watch live tv if I have a backend setup with multiple PVR cards? If not, how does LIRC work to change channels when surfing? Is it something like: Remote>LIRC-frontend>Mythtv-frontend>Mythtv-backend>LIRC-backend>cablebox#1 Capture cards live where the mythbackend process runs. One capture card is needed for each frontend watching LiveTV and for each in progress recording. As far as how LIRC works, LIRC works with the mythfrontend process to receive input from your remote control. That is communicated to the backend process which handles channel changes appropriate for the tuner being used. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV across two different video sources
Michael T. Dean wrote: Andrew Meredith wrote: [...] Am I missing something, SVN Not brave enough ;) or is this a systemic problem. The ability to automatically switch cards based on desired channel will be part of 0.19. :) For now, use Y to switch capture cards. Excellent, thanks very much. ADM ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV across two different video sources
Andrew Meredith wrote: However, if I go to LiveTV I am limited to the channels on the card that I get given for that LiveTV session. ie if I land on a card in machine 1, I cannot change to any Sky channels. If I land on the card in machine 2, I cannot change to the 5 terrestrial channels. If I use the up and down arrows to browse, it will only browse through other channels on that card, jumping over the ones it doesn't have. If I select from the LiveTV based listings screen, it simply ignores the selection unless it is another of that card's channels. ... Am I missing something, SVN or is this a systemic problem. The ability to automatically switch cards based on desired channel will be part of 0.19. :) For now, use Y to switch capture cards. Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV
On 8/26/05, Justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > In addition to the information below i have tried the MythTV DVB Setup > Guide and have now got to the point where i try to get the czap scan. > I am passing the following commands and get the following error message? > > # ./czap -c channels.conf-dvbt-australia -n 16 > using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0' > 16 TEN > Digital3:21950:INVERSION_OFF:BANDWIDTH_7_MHZ:FEC_3_4:FEC_1_2:QAM_64:TRANSMISSION_MODE_8K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_16:HIERAR$ > ERROR: cannot parse service data > > > Any thoughts or suggestions on what i still have wrong? I'd use tzap (it's for DVB-T, DVB over antenna) instead of czap (for DVB-C, DVB over cable) in case that's causing the problem, unless you know this should definitely work. It's just a hunch based on the fact you are using a dvb-t config file, which may contain incomplete data for czap to use. Nick ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV
Hi all,
In addition to the information below i have tried the MythTV DVB Setup
Guide and have now got to the point where i try to get the czap scan.
I am passing the following commands and get the following error message?
# ./czap -c channels.conf-dvbt-australia -n 16
using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
16 TEN
Digital3:21950:INVERSION_OFF:BANDWIDTH_7_MHZ:FEC_3_4:FEC_1_2:QAM_64:TRANSMISSION_MODE_8K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_16:HIERAR$
ERROR: cannot parse service data
Any thoughts or suggestions on what i still have wrong?
Regards & TIA
Justin
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 18:16 +, Justin wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> i have listed a copy of my modprobe.conf
>
> lias eth0 sk98lin
> alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix
> alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
> options snd-card-0 index=0
> install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0
> && /usr/sbin/$
> remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1
> || : ; }; /sbin/m$
> alias char-major-81 bttv
> alias usb-controller ehci-hcd
> alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd
> # nvidia kernel module
> alias char-major-195 nvidia-1_0-7174
> alias nvidia nvidia-1_0-7174
>
>
> here is the output from dmesg
>
> Linux version 2.6.11-1.35_FC3 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc
> version 3.4.3 20050227 (Red Hat 3.4.3-22)) #1 Mon Jun 13 00:52:08 EDT
> 2005
> BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
> BIOS-e820: - 0009fc00 (usable)
> BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved)
> BIOS-e820: 000e - 0010 (reserved)
> BIOS-e820: 0010 - 1ffb (usable)
> BIOS-e820: 1ffb - 1ffc (ACPI data)
> BIOS-e820: 1ffc - 1fff (ACPI NVS)
> BIOS-e820: 1fff - 2000 (reserved)
> BIOS-e820: ffb8 - 0001 (reserved)
> 0MB HIGHMEM available.
> 511MB LOWMEM available.
> Using x86 segment limits to approximate NX protection
> On node 0 totalpages: 130992
> DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
> Normal zone: 126896 pages, LIFO batch:16
> HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1
> DMI 2.3 present.
> ACPI: RSDP (v000 ACPIAM) @ 0x000fac50
> ACPI: RSDT (v001 A M I OEMRSDT 0x02000504 MSFT 0x0097) @
> 0x1ffb
> ACPI: FADT (v002 A M I OEMFACP 0x02000504 MSFT 0x0097) @
> 0x1ffb0200
> ACPI: MADT (v001 A M I OEMAPIC 0x02000504 MSFT 0x0097) @
> 0x1ffb0390
> ACPI: OEMB (v001 A M I OEMBIOS 0x02000504 MSFT 0x0097) @
> 0x1ffc0040
> ACPI: DSDT (v001 A0094 A0094038 0x0038 INTL 0x02002026) @
> 0x
> ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x808
> Allocating PCI resources starting at 2000 (gap: 2000:dfb8)
> Built 1 zonelists
> Kernel command line: ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet
> Initializing CPU#0
> CPU 0 irqstacks, hard=c043a000 soft=c0439000
> PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 32768 bytes)
> Detected 2801.373 MHz processor.
> Using pmtmr for high-res timesource
> Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
> Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
> Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
> Memory: 513824k/523968k available (2419k kernel code, 9584k reserved,
> 677k data, 176k init, 0k highmem)
> Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode...
> Ok.
> Calibrating delay loop... 5488.64 BogoMIPS (lpj=2744320)
> Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized
> SELinux: Initializing.
> SELinux: Starting in permissive mode
> selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability
> Capability LSM initialized as secondary
> Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
> CPU: After generic identify, caps: bfebfbff
> 441d
> CPU: After vendor identify, caps: bfebfbff
> 441d
> monitor/mwait feature present.
> using mwait in idle threads.
> CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 16K
> CPU: L2 cache: 1024K
> CPU: After all inits, caps: bfebf3ff 0080 441d
>
> Intel machine check architecture supported.
> Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
> CPU0: Intel P4/Xeon Extended MCE MSRs (12) available
> CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz stepping 04
> Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
> Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
> Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
> ACPI: setting ELCR to 0200 (from 0820)
> checking if image is initramfs... it is
> Freeing initrd memory: 498k freed
> NET: Registered protocol family 16
> PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0031, last bus=2
> PCI: Using configuration type 1
> mtrr: v2.0 (20020519)
> ACPI: Subsystem revision 20050211
> ACPI: Interpreter enabled
> ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
> ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00)
> PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
> PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE controller :00:1f.1
> PCI: Transparent bridge - :00:1e.0
> ACPI: PCI I
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV
Hi Nick,
i have listed a copy of my modprobe.conf
lias eth0 sk98lin
alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
options snd-card-0 index=0
install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0
&& /usr/sbin/$
remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1
|| : ; }; /sbin/m$
alias char-major-81 bttv
alias usb-controller ehci-hcd
alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd
# nvidia kernel module
alias char-major-195 nvidia-1_0-7174
alias nvidia nvidia-1_0-7174
here is the output from dmesg
Linux version 2.6.11-1.35_FC3 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc
version 3.4.3 20050227 (Red Hat 3.4.3-22)) #1 Mon Jun 13 00:52:08 EDT
2005
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
BIOS-e820: - 0009fc00 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 000e - 0010 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 0010 - 1ffb (usable)
BIOS-e820: 1ffb - 1ffc (ACPI data)
BIOS-e820: 1ffc - 1fff (ACPI NVS)
BIOS-e820: 1fff - 2000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: ffb8 - 0001 (reserved)
0MB HIGHMEM available.
511MB LOWMEM available.
Using x86 segment limits to approximate NX protection
On node 0 totalpages: 130992
DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
Normal zone: 126896 pages, LIFO batch:16
HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1
DMI 2.3 present.
ACPI: RSDP (v000 ACPIAM) @ 0x000fac50
ACPI: RSDT (v001 A M I OEMRSDT 0x02000504 MSFT 0x0097) @
0x1ffb
ACPI: FADT (v002 A M I OEMFACP 0x02000504 MSFT 0x0097) @
0x1ffb0200
ACPI: MADT (v001 A M I OEMAPIC 0x02000504 MSFT 0x0097) @
0x1ffb0390
ACPI: OEMB (v001 A M I OEMBIOS 0x02000504 MSFT 0x0097) @
0x1ffc0040
ACPI: DSDT (v001 A0094 A0094038 0x0038 INTL 0x02002026) @
0x
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x808
Allocating PCI resources starting at 2000 (gap: 2000:dfb8)
Built 1 zonelists
Kernel command line: ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet
Initializing CPU#0
CPU 0 irqstacks, hard=c043a000 soft=c0439000
PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 32768 bytes)
Detected 2801.373 MHz processor.
Using pmtmr for high-res timesource
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Memory: 513824k/523968k available (2419k kernel code, 9584k reserved,
677k data, 176k init, 0k highmem)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode...
Ok.
Calibrating delay loop... 5488.64 BogoMIPS (lpj=2744320)
Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized
SELinux: Initializing.
SELinux: Starting in permissive mode
selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability
Capability LSM initialized as secondary
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
CPU: After generic identify, caps: bfebfbff
441d
CPU: After vendor identify, caps: bfebfbff
441d
monitor/mwait feature present.
using mwait in idle threads.
CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 1024K
CPU: After all inits, caps: bfebf3ff 0080 441d
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU0: Intel P4/Xeon Extended MCE MSRs (12) available
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz stepping 04
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
ACPI: setting ELCR to 0200 (from 0820)
checking if image is initramfs... it is
Freeing initrd memory: 498k freed
NET: Registered protocol family 16
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0031, last bus=2
PCI: Using configuration type 1
mtrr: v2.0 (20020519)
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20050211
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00)
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE controller :00:1f.1
PCI: Transparent bridge - :00:1e.0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.P0P4._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 *5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0,
disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 3 4 *5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] (IRQs 3 4 *5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15)
Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
pnp: PnP ACPI init
pnp: PnP ACPI: found 17 devices
usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new driver hub
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
** PCI interrup
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV
On 8/22/05, Justin & Debbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Nick/Dewey, > > My knowledge of software and landguages is quite good, but my knowledge of > linux is very limited. > > I have been checking the forum and have come across various posts on similar > things and suspect mine is a combination of a number of possible problems. > Where are the log files kept for mythtv frontend and the devices. > > I do not know how to run a temrinal sesion to record live tv. An example > would be great - i am in Brisbane australia > > Nick you mention dvbscan - how do i do that ?? Justin, Have a look at the following resource and see if it helps at all. It covers most aspects of getting DVB up and running in MythTV: http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb.html The process is similiar in Australia for setting up DVB, so it should help you along. If you want to post your /etc/modprobe.conf file and output of dmesg when your DVB drivers are loaded it might be useful. I would also start the frontend with verbose logging (-vv I think) to see if this gives any more pointers. HTH, Nick ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV
Hi Nick/Dewey, My knowledge of software and landguages is quite good, but my knowledge of linux is very limited. I have been checking the forum and have come across various posts on similar things and suspect mine is a combination of a number of possible problems. Where are the log files kept for mythtv frontend and the devices. I do not know how to run a temrinal sesion to record live tv. An example would be great - i am in Brisbane australia Nick you mention dvbscan - how do i do that ?? With my limited knowledge i have determined that there appears to be some sort of issue when the box starts or shuts down saying that i have already loaded a lirc module. Could this be affecting it? In terms of more information - what do you all require - if it is something i need to dump our of a log file, please let me know and i will post it. TIA Justin - Original Message - From: "Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion about mythtv" Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV On 8/21/05, Justin & Debbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I must first of all thank all of those who have helped me get my myth system > off the ground. > > My current dillema is probably simple to resolve but i am unable to work out > how to do it. > > Hardware: > > p4 2.8Ghz processor, 512 DDR ram, Asus P5p800 mainboard, Dvico DVB-T lite > card, 250GB SATA HDD,Gigabyte GVN4464TE(NVIDIA MX 440 8x) video card, fedora > core 2.6.11-1.35. > > The above setup works a treat - i can get all other functions apart from the > live TV and recording og live TV. Have you been able to get output from the DVB-T card using dvbscan etc (i.e. outside of MythTV) to make sure the card is loaded OK? Once it is determined the card is functioning, I'd try entering mythtv-setup and setting up the DVB card, then trying to scan for channels (if you haven't already). If this all works, trying scheduling a recording and seeing if it works. If it does, it may be a problem with your video card's setup and not the DVB card. Nick ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV
On 8/21/05, Justin & Debbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I must first of all thank all of those who have helped me get my myth system > off the ground. > > My current dillema is probably simple to resolve but i am unable to work out > how to do it. > > Hardware: > > p4 2.8Ghz processor, 512 DDR ram, Asus P5p800 mainboard, Dvico DVB-T lite > card, 250GB SATA HDD,Gigabyte GVN4464TE(NVIDIA MX 440 8x) video card, fedora > core 2.6.11-1.35. > > The above setup works a treat - i can get all other functions apart from the > live TV and recording og live TV. Have you been able to get output from the DVB-T card using dvbscan etc (i.e. outside of MythTV) to make sure the card is loaded OK? Once it is determined the card is functioning, I'd try entering mythtv-setup and setting up the DVB card, then trying to scan for channels (if you haven't already). If this all works, trying scheduling a recording and seeing if it works. If it does, it may be a problem with your video card's setup and not the DVB card. Nick ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV
SIP is the Session Initiation Protocol used for VoIP by Mythphone. If you don't have Mythphone configured, you'll get this message. Ignore it, it doesn't matter. I don't know what the problem with TV viewing is, but SIP most definitely has nothing to do with it. Start by double checking everything -- is the card capture card installed properly? Can you get a test recoding from the command line -- even a recording of snow will be helpful in this case. Is the card properly set up on the backend? Is the right input set -- on a PVR 250, for example, possible inputs are (IIRC) Composite 0-3, S-video 0-3, and Tuner 0. You may also need to tweak modules.conf. IIRC, a PVR is tuner type = 39, for example. I have no idea what specific settings need to be made for a DVB card, but there has been plenty of conversation here on the topic. It's hard to give you an easy solution without knowing more specifics, but hopefully this will give you a starting point. Search this list for specifics on your card and for info about modules.conf. Good luck. ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV EPG and Multiple Tuners with Multiple Video Sources
Yay, thats another item off my wishlist. I'll go play with svn now. Thanks! :) On 08/08/05, Donavan Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/8/05, Astrolox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone know of a hidden option or something I've not found yet? > > If not, Can I least find out if I'm the only person annoyed by this? > > You need to either be using svn or wait till the next release. > Changing channels across cards was implemented post .18.1 -- Astrolox http://www.astrolox.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV EPG and Multiple Tuners with Multiple Video Sources
On 8/8/05, Astrolox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone know of a hidden option or something I've not found yet? > If not, Can I least find out if I'm the only person annoyed by this? You need to either be using svn or wait till the next release. Changing channels across cards was implemented post .18.1 ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV hangs when recording
Do you have two tuner cards installed? I only have one card and if I try to watch LiveTV while it's recording it gives me a message saying that the card is currently in use, it mentions: if you'd like to watch the current recording choose it from the recordings list, otherwise cancel the recording in the program guide. Are you running CVS? My CVS is from a few days ago. Works great! -Greg On 5/15/05, Preston Crow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I try to watch live TV (perhaps for a sports game), and it happens > to be recording something, it just hangs on a black screen. This is > very frustrating. Shouldn't it show some menu like it does when it's > about to start recording something when watching live TV? > > Or at the very least, it should give a meaningful error message. > > --PC > > > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
re:[mythtv-users] Live TV = blank screen
Mike- I just configured my hdtv card using this guide. It works when I confiigure the channels manually, but not with the zap2it guide data. here is the link I used. http://www.digitalregime.com/mythdvb/setup/ Hope it helps. -Gregg Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:58:36 +1000 From: Mike Hoare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [mythtv-users] Live TV = blank screen To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi all, I have been setting up Mythtv 0.17 on Fedora Core 3 following the guides at http://www.users.on.net/~jani/dvico-mythtv-3.html and http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/ I get a blank screen when I try to watch live tv This is the output on the terminal 2005-03-15 22:24:54.130 mythfrontend version: 0.17.20050130-1 www.mythtv.org 2005-03-15 22:24:54.130 Enabled verbose msgs : important general 2005-03-15 22:24:54.759 Switching to square mode (blue) 2005-03-15 22:24:55.049 Joystick disabled. 2005-03-15 22:24:55.076 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin. 2005-03-15 22:24:55.097 Registering MythDVD DVD Media Handler as a media handler 2005-03-15 22:24:55.097 Registering MythDVD VCD Media Handler as a media handler 2005-03-15 22:24:55.608 Registering MythMusic Media Handler as a media handler SIP listening on IP Address 192.168.0.143:5060 NAT address 192.168.0.143 SIP: Cannot register; proxy, username or password not set 2005-03-15 22:24:57.836 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) 2005-03-15 22:24:57.842 Using protocol version 14 2005-03-15 22:24:57.875 Using protocol version 14 2005-03-15 22:25:03.009 taking too long to be allowed to read.. 2005-03-15 22:25:08.020 taking too long to be allowed to read.. 2005-03-15 22:25:15.016 Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, waiting again... 2005-03-15 22:25:17.018 Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, waiting again... 2005-03-15 22:25:19.020 Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, waiting again... 2005-03-15 22:25:21.021 Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, waiting again... 2005-03-15 22:25:23.023 Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, waiting again... 2005-03-15 22:25:25.026 Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, waiting again... 2005-03-15 22:25:27.028 Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, waiting again... 2005-03-15 22:25:29.029 Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, waiting again... 2005-03-15 22:25:29.029 Waited 14 seconds for data to become available, aborting Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/video/buffer/ringbuf1.nuv 2005-03-15 22:25:29.070 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV 2005-03-15 22:25:29.070 Decoder not alive, and trying to play.. 2005-03-15 22:25:29.136 Changing from None to None So far I have used the autotune and successfully a) scanned in the transports using the full scan option and then b) scanned the channels using the existing transport option c) ran mythfilldatabase I can a) see channel info and guide via mythweb and b) see guide data in mythfrontend both of which suggest that the database connection is all OK All channels were detected during the scans. I have set the default start channel to an existing channel, though this does not seem to 'stick' i.e. each time I have a look in the setup that field is blank... despite selecting not to clear the card/channels I can use mplayer and kaffeine without any problems, which suggest the driver is OK Any advice would be greatly apreciated, I understand that some of the errors may be due to mythphone but when I attempt to uninstall it it wants to uninstall the whole suite... Thanks Mike some specs: Mythfrontend and backend are on same host Athlon XP 3200 1G Ram Dvico DVB-T HDTV (pci) I am in Brisbane (Australia) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/attachments/20050316/38e67e5b/attachment-0001.htm -- ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV stops after a few hours.
--- Michael Carland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Will Dormann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Joe Votour wrote: > > > However, I do hope that it is fixed, as LiveTV > is an > > > important feature (and really, the whole reason > I'm > > > using Myth - otherwise, I might as well just > have a > > > VCR). > > > > Now that's funny. :) > > > I was going to say, those sound like fightin' words! > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Make Yahoo! your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > Maybe it sounds silly, if I can't use LiveTV, then I might as well have a VCR. I may be wrong here, but I thought that the idea of a PVR was that it could manipulate "live" streams - that is, pause, rewind, and fast-forward (to parts that have been already broadcast anyway). Without that, I might as well have a VCR. A high-tech VCR with program listings and commercial skipping, but nonetheless, a VCR. I say this because with a VCR, you can only watch the recording and manipulate it once finished, not while the recording is happening. Although I have been bitten by the bug a few times (when I forget to return to the menu and try to watch a couple of hours straight), it hasn't bothered me because I haven't been watching much TV lately. -- Joe __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV stops after a few hours.
--- Ken Mink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Michael, > This problem doesn't appear to be very common. A couple of us have > been trying to track down the cause. Could you post some info about > your rig; distro, versions, hardware, etc? > > Thanks, > Ken > Certainly. Anything to help. I just set this up, and am still relying on my TiVo for recordings I care about, so if there is anything code wise you would like me to try, it wouldn't be a problem. Besides the fact that my laptops hard drive is singing it's death song. Also, I have ordered hardware for a new backend with a litle more oomph, so if that ever ships, I can see if the problem goes away with the backend. Backend: AMD K6-3 768MB ram, IWill XA100+ MB Debian sarge, 2.6.10 kernel, gcc 3.3.5. 1xPVR-500MCE, IVTV 0.3.2-p Encoder firmware 0x02040011 66GB media partition using JFS Myth 0.17 Frontend: Via EPIA M10K, 512MB ram Debian sarge, 2.6.10 kernel, gcc 3.3.5 X.org 6.8.2 with Unichrome via video and DRI driver, checked out and built a few weeks ago. Using the XvMC hardware option, Deinterlace w/Bob Diskless, system mounted NFS from a 3rd machine. Myth 0.17 with an ALSA patch (fixes uninitialized var) LIRC 0.7.0 with a few minor modifications. -Michael __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV stops after a few hours.
--- Will Dormann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joe Votour wrote: > > However, I do hope that it is fixed, as LiveTV is an > > important feature (and really, the whole reason I'm > > using Myth - otherwise, I might as well just have a > > VCR). > > Now that's funny. :) > I was going to say, those sound like fightin' words! __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV stops after a few hours.
I'm using FC3, but all rpms are stock from atrpms. I've got an AMD 2600 Barton and Geoforge4 MX400(on mb). I'm also using a single PVR-250. I know that I'm not running out of space either. It is definitely something to do with a full live buffer, not a full live buffer filesystem. Everyone is in agreement that the problem was introduced with 0.17. However, very few people are reporting it, so there hasn't been much traction on getting it fixed. Someone also mentioned that the whole live buffer system was getting re-architected. Good Luck, Ken On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:10:35 -0800 (PST), Joe Votour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I deleted the original message that started the > thread, so I'm replying to this one instead. > > Anyway, I'm also seeing this. I've seen it since I > upgraded to MythTV 0.17, but never saw it in MythTV > 0.16. > > What I'm running: > - Fedora Core 3 (setup as per Jarod's guide) > - Athlon 64 3200+ (but in 32-bit mode, I haven't had a > chance to install x86_64 Linux yet) > - PVR-250 and PVR-350 for capture > - nVidia GeForce 5200FX for display > - Recompiled the RPMs to have OpenGL vsync support > (but this is not the problem, it happened with the > stock release too) > - Using Bob de-interlacer > - Database settings for the cache are the default > (5GB, I think) > > I can guarantee that I'm not running out of disk > space, since I have a 220GB partition which is used > for recordings and cache, and I'm at 169GB free. > > I haven't been using the LiveTV feature too much > lately, which is why it doesn't bug me too much. > However, I do hope that it is fixed, as LiveTV is an > important feature (and really, the whole reason I'm > using Myth - otherwise, I might as well just have a > VCR). > > -- Joe > > --- Michael Carland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Ken Mink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Welcome to the group. This is a known, yet not > > wide spread, problem > > > where the backend crashes when the live buffer > > gets full. A bug was > > > filed in bugzilla on it and it has been posted to > > the dev list a > > > number of times. Currently the only work around > > that I've seen is to > > > set your live buffer to be very large and remember > > to change channels > > > every once in a while. My problem is that I forget > > to pop out to the > > > menu before going to bed or leaving for the day. > > > > > > http://www.mythtv.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=228 > > > > > > Good luck, > > > Ken > > > > Thanks! > > > > I feel like I'm drinking from a fire hose, reading > > this list. And while > > I'm usually good at finding stuff in Google, for > > some reason my searches > > on Myth are not fruitful. It's good to know so much > > is going on though. > > > > I think I have a 3 hour live buffer, so that should > > be an easy workaround. > > I had just left live tv running overnight to see if > > it was stable. I don't > > think this will normally bite my, I'll just have to > > be careful with the > > kids watching SpongeBob marathons. > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > ___ > > mythtv-users mailing list > > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > > > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV stops after a few hours.
Joe Votour wrote: However, I do hope that it is fixed, as LiveTV is an important feature (and really, the whole reason I'm using Myth - otherwise, I might as well just have a VCR). Now that's funny. :) -WD ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV stops after a few hours.
I deleted the original message that started the thread, so I'm replying to this one instead. Anyway, I'm also seeing this. I've seen it since I upgraded to MythTV 0.17, but never saw it in MythTV 0.16. What I'm running: - Fedora Core 3 (setup as per Jarod's guide) - Athlon 64 3200+ (but in 32-bit mode, I haven't had a chance to install x86_64 Linux yet) - PVR-250 and PVR-350 for capture - nVidia GeForce 5200FX for display - Recompiled the RPMs to have OpenGL vsync support (but this is not the problem, it happened with the stock release too) - Using Bob de-interlacer - Database settings for the cache are the default (5GB, I think) I can guarantee that I'm not running out of disk space, since I have a 220GB partition which is used for recordings and cache, and I'm at 169GB free. I haven't been using the LiveTV feature too much lately, which is why it doesn't bug me too much. However, I do hope that it is fixed, as LiveTV is an important feature (and really, the whole reason I'm using Myth - otherwise, I might as well just have a VCR). -- Joe --- Michael Carland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Ken Mink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Welcome to the group. This is a known, yet not > wide spread, problem > > where the backend crashes when the live buffer > gets full. A bug was > > filed in bugzilla on it and it has been posted to > the dev list a > > number of times. Currently the only work around > that I've seen is to > > set your live buffer to be very large and remember > to change channels > > every once in a while. My problem is that I forget > to pop out to the > > menu before going to bed or leaving for the day. > > > > http://www.mythtv.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=228 > > > > Good luck, > > Ken > > Thanks! > > I feel like I'm drinking from a fire hose, reading > this list. And while > I'm usually good at finding stuff in Google, for > some reason my searches > on Myth are not fruitful. It's good to know so much > is going on though. > > I think I have a 3 hour live buffer, so that should > be an easy workaround. > I had just left live tv running overnight to see if > it was stable. I don't > think this will normally bite my, I'll just have to > be careful with the > kids watching SpongeBob marathons. > > -Michael > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV stops after a few hours.
On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 10:03:15AM -0500, Ken Mink wrote: > Hi Michael, > This problem doesn't appear to be very common. A couple of us have > been trying to track down the cause. Could you post some info about > your rig; distro, versions, hardware, etc? I've seen this once. I'm running a stock KnoppMyth R5A12, PVR250, Geforce2 MX400 /dev/hda3 on /cache type ext2 (rw) /dev/hda3 2104260 3016 2101244 1% /cache After the crash, /cache was full (as expected). Live TV was running for at least a couple hours (at my capture settings, /cache is only good for an hour). mysql> select * from settings where value like "%buffer%"; +---+--+--+ | value | data | hostname | +---+--+--+ | LiveBufferDir | /cache/cache | myth | | BufferSize| 2| myth | | MaxBufferFill | 50 | myth | | AggressiveSoundcardBuffer | 0| myth | | CCBufferWarnings | 1| myth | | HDRingbufferSize | 9400 | NULL | +---+--+--+ 6 rows in set (0.00 sec) Graham > > Thanks, > Ken > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 06:08:42 -0800 (PST), Michael Carland > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Ken Mink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Welcome to the group. This is a known, yet not wide spread, problem > > > where the backend crashes when the live buffer gets full. A bug was > > > filed in bugzilla on it and it has been posted to the dev list a > > > number of times. Currently the only work around that I've seen is to > > > set your live buffer to be very large and remember to change channels > > > every once in a while. My problem is that I forget to pop out to the > > > menu before going to bed or leaving for the day. > > > > > > http://www.mythtv.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=228 > > > > > > Good luck, > > > Ken > > > > Thanks! > > > > I feel like I'm drinking from a fire hose, reading this list. And while > > I'm usually good at finding stuff in Google, for some reason my searches > > on Myth are not fruitful. It's good to know so much is going on though. > > > > I think I have a 3 hour live buffer, so that should be an easy workaround. > > I had just left live tv running overnight to see if it was stable. I don't > > think this will normally bite my, I'll just have to be careful with the > > kids watching SpongeBob marathons. > > > > -Michael > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > > > > ___ > > mythtv-users mailing list > > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > > > > > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV stops after a few hours.
Hi Michael, This problem doesn't appear to be very common. A couple of us have been trying to track down the cause. Could you post some info about your rig; distro, versions, hardware, etc? Thanks, Ken On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 06:08:42 -0800 (PST), Michael Carland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Ken Mink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Welcome to the group. This is a known, yet not wide spread, problem > > where the backend crashes when the live buffer gets full. A bug was > > filed in bugzilla on it and it has been posted to the dev list a > > number of times. Currently the only work around that I've seen is to > > set your live buffer to be very large and remember to change channels > > every once in a while. My problem is that I forget to pop out to the > > menu before going to bed or leaving for the day. > > > > http://www.mythtv.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=228 > > > > Good luck, > > Ken > > Thanks! > > I feel like I'm drinking from a fire hose, reading this list. And while > I'm usually good at finding stuff in Google, for some reason my searches > on Myth are not fruitful. It's good to know so much is going on though. > > I think I have a 3 hour live buffer, so that should be an easy workaround. > I had just left live tv running overnight to see if it was stable. I don't > think this will normally bite my, I'll just have to be careful with the > kids watching SpongeBob marathons. > > -Michael > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV stops after a few hours.
--- Ken Mink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Welcome to the group. This is a known, yet not wide spread, problem > where the backend crashes when the live buffer gets full. A bug was > filed in bugzilla on it and it has been posted to the dev list a > number of times. Currently the only work around that I've seen is to > set your live buffer to be very large and remember to change channels > every once in a while. My problem is that I forget to pop out to the > menu before going to bed or leaving for the day. > > http://www.mythtv.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=228 > > Good luck, > Ken Thanks! I feel like I'm drinking from a fire hose, reading this list. And while I'm usually good at finding stuff in Google, for some reason my searches on Myth are not fruitful. It's good to know so much is going on though. I think I have a 3 hour live buffer, so that should be an easy workaround. I had just left live tv running overnight to see if it was stable. I don't think this will normally bite my, I'll just have to be careful with the kids watching SpongeBob marathons. -Michael __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV stops after a few hours.
Welcome to the group. This is a known, yet not wide spread, problem where the backend crashes when the live buffer gets full. A bug was filed in bugzilla on it and it has been posted to the dev list a number of times. Currently the only work around that I've seen is to set your live buffer to be very large and remember to change channels every once in a while. My problem is that I forget to pop out to the menu before going to bed or leaving for the day. http://www.mythtv.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=228 Good luck, Ken On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:19:02 -0800 (PST), Michael Carland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > I'm running 0.17, and after a few hours, live tv just stops. > > I get prebuffering pauses sprinkled here and their when it is working, and > then the backend logs: > 2005-03-27 17:45:35.038 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV > ERROR: file I/O problem in 'safe_read()': Invalid argument > ERROR: file I/O problem in 'safe_read()': Invalid argument > ERROR: file I/O problem in 'safe_read()': Invalid argument > > while the frontend logs: > > 2005-03-27 19:05:00.495 prebuffering pause > Errm, event socket just closed. > 2005-03-27 20:03:18.933 prebuffering pause > 2005-03-27 20:03:20.755 Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, > waiting again... > 2005-03-27 20:03:22.756 Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, > waiting again... > 2005-03-27 20:03:24.758 Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, > waiting again... > 2005-03-27 20:03:26.760 Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, > waiting again... > 2005-03-27 20:03:28.761 Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, > waiting again... > 2005-03-27 20:03:30.763 Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, > waiting again... > 2005-03-27 20:03:32.765 Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, > waiting again... > 2005-03-27 20:03:34.766 Waited 2 seconds for data to become available, > waiting again... > 2005-03-27 20:03:34.767 Waited 14 seconds for data to become available, > aborting > Freed 5898240 (pool 2) > Freed 6428192 (pool 2) > Freed 6958144 (pool 2) > Freed 7488096 (pool 2) > Freed 8018048 (pool 2) > Freed 8548000 (pool 2) > Freed 9077952 (pool 2) > Freed 9607904 (pool 2) > Freed 10137856 (pool 2) > 2005-03-27 20:03:38.921 ReadStringList timeout (quick). > 2005-03-27 20:03:38.921 RemoteFile::Read(): No response from control > socket. > 2005-03-27 20:03:38.921 RemoteFile::Read() failed in > RingBuffer::safe_read(). > 2005-03-27 20:03:38.922 RemoteFile::Read() failed in > RingBuffer::safe_read(). > 2005-03-27 20:03:38.922 RemoteFile::Read() failed in > RingBuffer::safe_read(). > 2005-03-27 20:03:38.922 RemoteFile::Read() failed in > RingBuffer::safe_read(). > 2005-03-27 20:03:38.922 RemoteFile::Read() failed in > RingBuffer::safe_read(). > 2005-03-27 20:03:38.923 RemoteFile::Read() failed in > RingBuffer::safe_read(). > > backend then dies with a segfault. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > -Michael > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV - External Change channels does not work ... recording it does (Resolved)
Simon Kenyon wrote: digibox could be my version of the redremote software (well, that's what i called it). it does not set a return value. just add an exit(0); at the end of main() -- simon Hi Simon, yes it is your program :o). It is great! I instead reverted the code in channelbase.cpp to add an & to the external command string, resulting in it again collecting the error code from the detaching shell, which is always zero. This also speeds up the channel switching to how it was, as it runs digibox in parallel with the other myth code. While you re around, I have been thinking about the Redremote transmitter and the way it works. I have no C experience, only some scripting, but was trying to work out a way of having the device always powered up, rather than waiting for the power up delay each time it is used to change channels. I guess you would need some kind of client server approach, so that the server is always powering the Redremote, and the client messaging the channel change it wants via a TCP socket? or would there be an easier way than that using C? Cheers Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV - External Change channels does not work ... recording it does (Resolved)
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 08:13, Steve Christall wrote: > Found it. > > If you are using an external IR transmitter, (in my case Redremote from > the UK) to control an external Sky box etc, the channel change code in > Myth libs/libmythtv/channelbase.cpp has recently been "optimised" which > in my case resulted in getting stuck on one channel when watching live TV. > > The channel change code now correctly checks for a return code (it use > to check but always got the calling shells return code, not the actual > external program) from the external program, and in my case the external > program (digibox) was returning an error code of 9. This resulted in > the channel change code attempting to change back to the last channel it > was on. (although if there was an error with the external program, it is > debatable if trying a second time back to the original channel is a good > solution!?) > > You can see this here where I try to change channel to 102, it does > this, get a bogus error code of 9 back, tries to change back to the > original channel of 121, gets the same error code 9 back again and this > time ignores it. > > If you are recording TV, and not watching it live, it appears to ignore > the error codes anyway .. this change appeared in late .16 or early > .17 Hope this helps someone searching for answers in the future. digibox could be my version of the redremote software (well, that's what i called it). it does not set a return value. just add an exit(0); at the end of main() -- simon ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV viewing blocked by non-existent recordings
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 17:59, Justin Gombos wrote: > MythTV is already using all available inputs for recording. ÂIf you > Â want to watch an in-progress recording, select one from the playback > Â menu. ÂIf you want to watch live TV, cancel one of the in-progress > Â recordings from the delete menu. Wrong inputs selected in the tv setup? -- __Jsa_ ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
