Re: [newbie] Can you recommend a Linux Mandrake book.
On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, you wrote: Look at the How-to at www.linux.com , it's a good tutorial on IP Chains and will get you up and running with a basic config. There is a really good step-by-step set of instructions at linuxnewbie.org also I'm looking for a good Linux Mandrake book. I need info on setting up ipchains as firewall protection, samba, plus others. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
[newbie] Netscape questions...
How do you get NutScrape to load all images in a web page without having to click them, or right click and ask to have them loaded? Oh, one more thing...how do you create a new user from root? Thank a million! Sam Roza
[newbie] Display - Gtk warning
Hi, When I want to run a program, this is the warning message I've (and of course, the program doesn't fire up) : Gtk-WARNING ** : cannot open display. I have a Matrox Millenium II, and have no problem when running Xwindow. What do I have to do to make it works ? Thanks. Francois
Re: [newbie] Netscape questions...
Sam Roza wrote: How do you get NutScrape to load all images in a web page without having to click them, or right click and ask to have them loaded? Edit--prefrences--advanced--autoload images.. Oh, one more thing...how do you create a new user from root? Linuxconfig icon on desktop--user accounts... -Warren.
Re: [newbie] Netscape questions...
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Sam Roza wrote: How do you get NutScrape to load all images in a web page without having to click them, or right click and ask to have them loaded? Edit-Preferences-AdvanceAutomatically load images and other data types. Oh, one more thing...how do you create a new user from root? # adduser or # linuxconf -- Ronald
Re: [newbie] TAKE ME OFF THIS DAMN LIST
At 01:58 20/12/99 -0500, you wrote: i've tried the commands needed to get off list... if i'm not taken off in a few days i'm gonna mail bomb this damn thing... i'm getting pissed off... someone please take me of this list... I think it is better to filter [EMAIL PROTECTED] to /dev/null if this mailling list use qmail, the admin should do this echo [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/qmail/control/badmailfrom
Re: [newbie] Display - Gtk warning
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Francois Massonneau wrote: Hi, When I want to run a program, this is the warning message I've (and of course, the program doesn't fire up) : Gtk-WARNING ** : cannot open display. I have a Matrox Millenium II, and have no problem when running Xwindow. What do I have to do to make it works ? Thanks. Francois Set $DISPLAY, and try again.. export DISPLAY=:0 -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] Spam
At 08:19 20/12/99 +0200, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't we have filters for this crap??? There has been a lot of this sort of shit coming through for the past couple of days. Can it be blocked please... I think this is now the time for linux-mandrake.com to switch its mail transport agent with newer version (not just sendmail 8.8.5) and subscribe to MAPS RBL, RSS, and DUL , and ORBS to prevent spamming like this (ref : www.mail-abuse.org , www.orbs.org) PS: why this mailling list is still using sendmail ?, I see there are many mailling list use postfix, exim and qmail as their mta
[newbie] Instalation Woes
I am re-sending this message as the first time I sent it there were heaps of problems with the newbie mailing list and I received no replies. This time I am more hopeful :-) I just installed Linux-Mandrake 6.1 on my sons machine, and have the following problems: 1st I believe that there is a conflict between his Creative Vibra128 PCI sound card and the 3C509 NIC because if I run sndconfig the soundcard is apparently detected fine, and plays the test sound but afterwards if I ping my network the computer TOTALLY locks up, only a hardware reset works. The NIC works fine as long as I don't try and run sndconfig. 2nd the update icon doesn't work in KDE. Awaiting your words of wisdom: Mike Perry RD Dep. Netafim Magal. Linux -- the Ultimate Windows Service Pack
[newbie] Any Linux web server to recommend ?
Dear ALL, Anyone has any idea of any web hosting using linux with apache and mysql Thanks.. Luff, coin
[newbie] TAKE ME OFF THIS DAMN LIST
i've tried the commands needed to get off list... if i'm not taken off in a few days i'm gonna mail bomb this damn thing... i'm getting pissed off... someone please take me of this list...
[newbie] Spam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** URGENT *** ACCEPT CREDIT CARDS FOR YOUR BUSINESS AND INCREASE YOUR PROFITS 30%-50% ! INTERNET STOREFRONT HOMEBASED OR MAIL ORDER BUSINESSES Crap cut for obvious reasons. Don't we have filters for this crap??? There has been a lot of this sort of shit coming through for the past couple of days. Can it be blocked please... Michael Perry. RD. Dep. Netafim Magal. Linux -- the Ultimate Windows Service Pack
Re: [newbie] Sound Setup
Well first of all SORRY about the html! Second im not an idiot i can read the error! Sorry i couldnt remember the whole error from linux when im in windows - Original Message - From: Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 5:54 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Sound Setup First off, because someone is going to tell you anyway, turn off the html. It is considered poor netiquette. Secondly, it's not '(VERIFY N)', it's '(VERIFYLD N)' that goes in the file. -Original Message- From: Jamey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 18, 1999 10:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Sound Setup Excuse me for asking for so much help! I just purchased linux about 2 days ago, and I think I'm doing fair for a first timer. Anyway my problem is: First of all I had a SB Live value card but i found out that linux did not support it, So I took it out and enable my onboard sound chip. Linux found it (By the way I have L-Mandrake 6.5) But when it probed it it came up with an error telling me to add (VERIFY N) into the sndconfg file. So I did and tryed again but this time when it probes the card it completely looks up so bad the only way out is RESET! Im wondering how I can edit it manually, Ive got all the info from windows ( Dual boot) . Or should i just purchase another sound card?
Re: [newbie] Kernel
I had a teacher that called your current state as the dawn of knowledge. Not all things are easy. Destroying old habits is the hardest. When you have hundreds or thousands of people who like to code make a system you should not be surprised that they are lousy technical writers. I think it is interesting that most of the for profit companies forming around Linux are going to sell services. Someone has to help with those configuration problems. I have been paying around with Linux for about a year now. I still spend more time in Windows than Linux but that could change if I could find an email client and new group reader that I like. There is a lot I don't like but the potential is so much greater than Windows that I want to keep learning more. Maybe it is just a challenge much greater than most PC games. Linux is a work in progress. They haven't taken the time yet to hide the plumbing in the walls yet. I want to see it done also, I am not a programmer, I am a draftsman. I want a system that I can play with and learn some programming. But from looking around the source code in the system I can tell that I will never get to their level. I don't have the time to live Linux. I just have learned enough to make do and forgive the rest. Maybe someday it will be finished, we can only hope. PBen On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 22:41:35 -0600, Audrey Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm SO sick of people that seem to LIKE hurting, telling those of us that are just not masochists to do this. Until you get some experience, sometimes only one little piece at a time, the mans mean nothing. Most of the time, you don't know what to look for. Gee, I'd like to print. What do I do? Check the FAQ and HOWTO that TRY to help, but just never seem to apply, or they refer you to another one for a part that has to work first, which then refers you to the previous one because that part has to work first... Not everyone learns or understands the same way. The lilo manual tells you everything you never wanted to know unless you need that part of it. When you are a brand new Linux user, reading it and understanding it can take weeks! All you usually need is a small part of something. Once you understand that part, you can gather more information relating to it and the next and the next. It sure ain't magic. Real multitasking and real multiuser in Linux are great. The rest hurts. I am not a newbie to the world of computers, programming or operating systems. I've been in world of hurt since I installed this OS. I'm learning a little at a time. But it will take me LOTS of time to figure even some of it out. I actually have a life aside from learning Linux and I like it MUCH better. Linux is just a tool for me to use to get something accomplished. I don't worship it. And it's good none of you know how many times I've wanted to stomp the cd into dust. The good part about having the source code is you can change/fix things if you need to. The bad part about having the source code is you probably have to. There are MANY people on this list, that take the time to help those of us that are lost, to go in the right direction. They do help. The best help is personal, to the problem you are having. To those, THANK YOU! Sometimes it's not so difficult to figure out what to do, or where to find it, as it is what applies. You might get sick of answering the same question a hundred thousand times, but it just means that there are a hundred thousand new users with the same problems. To the rest, just because someone wants to use Linux, that doesn't mean they want to LIVE it.
Re: [newbie] Kernel
Indeed, I agree. I have been using Linux for a bit less than a year. I started with Mandrake 5.3 and now am using Mandrake 6.0. I have figured out enough to set up ipmasq for my home network, and seem to have screwed up something that prevents samba from working. I'm no programmer either, though I am not new to computing. I am in IT and oversee a network of about 45 pc's and several NT servers at work. I am finally at a level of Linux knowledge that I am doing 99.9% of my work at home in Linux. The other bit of windoze time is spent studying for the MCSE exams, my company is paying for my MCSE. I figure if I have my MCSE AND a working knowledge of Linux I'll be that much ahead of the other guys with just a MCSE cert. Of course my company will want me to stay forever since they are paying for my education. Anyway, I think Linux has to become much more 'user friendly' in order to take even more of the desktop 'home' market. Isn't that goal anyway? To give ol' Bill a run for his money. I love it. More power to the penquin! I appreciate the help I receive from this mailing list, thank you all. I find it much friendlier than the newsgroups where you're more likely to see 'rtfm' than a few helpful suggestions. That's no way to treat the new users to the fold, now is it? If Linux does not become more user friendly, then the war is over, Bill has won. I certainly hope not! We must unite and support each other and the people developing Linux to be the next great OS. I may not be a programer, but if there is something I can do to help I sure will do it. Just my two cents worth. Thanks to all on this list! Chip Wiegand Those who dare to fail miserably can achieve greatly Robert F. Kennedy On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Paul Benjamin wrote: I had a teacher that called your current state as the dawn of knowledge. Not all things are easy. Destroying old habits is the hardest. When you have hundreds or thousands of people who like to code make a system you should not be surprised that they are lousy technical writers. I think it is interesting that most of the for profit companies forming around Linux are going to sell services. Someone has to help with those configuration problems. I have been paying around with Linux for about a year now. I still spend more time in Windows than Linux but that could change if I could find an email client and new group reader that I like. There is a lot I don't like but the potential is so much greater than Windows that I want to keep learning more. Maybe it is just a challenge much greater than most PC games. Linux is a work in progress. They haven't taken the time yet to hide the plumbing in the walls yet. I want to see it done also, I am not a programmer, I am a draftsman. I want a system that I can play with and learn some programming. But from looking around the source code in the system I can tell that I will never get to their level. I don't have the time to live Linux. I just have learned enough to make do and forgive the rest. Maybe someday it will be finished, we can only hope. PBen On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 22:41:35 -0600, Audrey Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm SO sick of people that seem to LIKE hurting, telling those of us that are just not masochists to do this. Until you get some experience, sometimes only one little piece at a time, the mans mean nothing. Most of the time, you don't know what to look for. Gee, I'd like to print. What do I do? Check the FAQ and HOWTO that TRY to help, but just never seem to apply, or they refer you to another one for a part that has to work first, which then refers you to the previous one because that part has to work first... Not everyone learns or understands the same way. The lilo manual tells you everything you never wanted to know unless you need that part of it. When you are a brand new Linux user, reading it and understanding it can take weeks! All you usually need is a small part of something. Once you understand that part, you can gather more information relating to it and the next and the next. It sure ain't magic. Real multitasking and real multiuser in Linux are great. The rest hurts. I am not a newbie to the world of computers, programming or operating systems. I've been in world of hurt since I installed this OS. I'm learning a little at a time. But it will take me LOTS of time to figure even some of it out. I actually have a life aside from learning Linux and I like it MUCH better. Linux is just a tool for me to use to get something accomplished. I don't worship it. And it's good none of you know how many times I've wanted to stomp the cd into dust. The good part about having the source code is you can change/fix things if you need to. The bad part about having the source code is you probably have to. There are MANY people on this list, that take the time to help those of us that are lost, to go
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
- Original Message - From: "Sam Roza" snipped I think there might be one last issue concerning the width of my screen and my clock in the righthand corner pushed off the screen...but I'll probably fool with it later, for now I'll just surf! :-] 1st - "man xvidtune" then run xvidtune. Sam Roza P.S.-- any way to get fonts and stuff to work more window-like? Rclick desktop, Lclick Display propertys -- fonts stuff... -Warren.
Re: [newbie] libc5 or glibc
From: Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] libc5 or glibc Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 22:53:09 -0600 (CST) Try `ls -l /lib/libc*` I got (amongst other libs): -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1286208 Sep 9 13:48 /lib/libc-2.1.1.so* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Nov 10 01:14 /lib/libc.so.6 - libc-2.1.1.so* The top one is GNU libc (glibc) 2.1.1. This should be installed by default on a Helios system. If you need to upgrade, I'm not sure what I'd suggest. A lot of things depend on a certain version of libc, and if you upgrade it without upgrading those other programs, you may break things. It may just be easier to upgrade your distribution version, if you don't alreay have the correct version of glibc. -Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Hidong Kim wrote: How can I tell if my Linux installation is libc5 or glibc? Is upgrading a library as simple as installing the rpm? Thanks, __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] Corrupted library file - Maybe someone here will help?
Hi, I have posted this same message for two weeks now on the comp.protocols.smb group and comp.os.linux.networking and gotten no responses what-so-ever. So I'm hoping someone in here will be able to help me. I recently removed my older version of samba and installed 2.0.6 I then set up the smb.conf and ran testparm -s smb.conf | head - 10. I got an error message - error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libreadline.so.3: undefined symbol: BC I checked my hd for the library and found - libreadline.so.3 libreadline.so.3.0 libreadline.so.4.0 libreadline.a libreadline.so I checked my mandrake cd for the library to reinstall it and could not find this one library on the cd. I have checked several web sites and have not found this one library. Are these differant versions conflicting with each other? How do I resolve this? I can't use samba at all until this is fixed. It fails on bootup and of course shutdown. I can't get this machine connected to my network at all till this is fixed. -- Chip Wiegand Those who dare to fail miserably can achieve greatly Robert F. Kennedy
Re: [newbie] Want To Lose Weight For The Holidays-New PillCanDoIt -gpav
I sent it via spamcop as recommended. Maybe it'll help. I get so many emails, I can't afford to lock up my account over spam. B. B. Sam Roza wrote: We got spammed with this same message on my vintage bus board at type2.com. Oh well... Sam - Original Message - From: Toyswins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Want To Lose Weight For The Holidays-New Pill CanDoIt -gpav Great gift for Christmas.. I did like the answers in the "funny" mode however. Got a kick out of someones imagination working overtime. Will do the same. Thanks. B. B. Ken Wilson wrote: Report it through www.spamcop.net I did. Maybe if the host gets enough spam notices they'll do something about it. -Original Message- From: Toyswins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 18, 1999 2:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Want To Lose Weight For The Holidays-New Pill Can DoIt -gpav Telephone solicitors have found you again John!! So true, but just delete this one, I did. Pisses you off though huh? Me too. Maybe the folks sponsoring this mail list can fix it B. B.
The New Mandrake? [Long. Was Re: [newbie] Kernel]
Hello list, On 19-Dec-1999 Dennis wrote: On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 22:01:20 +0100, you wrote: I sound like a newbie, am a newbie and want to remain a newbie... Then I hate to say it, but it sounds like Windoze is the OS for you. life's too short... Can anyone help me with the necessary change and also ask the powers that be to be a little more informative in the future? All it takes is a little bit of reading. Unfortunately Linux is not an OS for someone who doesnt want to learn anything about the OS on their computer. It is unlikely that it will ever be such an OS. Windows is the OS for folks who wish to learn nothing and want it all done for them. Not a flame...just the facts of life. And it is unlikely that even the Mandrake flavor of linux will ever be Windoze like in that respect. Sorry but I have to disagree. Not a 'fact of life' at all. Nor a flame from me ;-) Why *can't* Linux become 'easier'? It already has. Isn't this what Mandrake is growing into? An 'easy to use' Linux? Dennis you make some sensible points of course. Particularly concerning Linux in its current incarnation. Basically I agree. But it's too easy to chant RTFM at every new user as if it were a magical invocation. Please don't take this as a personal attack. But I feel like Bob Dylan(!), I have to tell you the times they-are-a-changing. My God Dennis, people expect to turn their computers on, as we approach the 21st century, and *use them*. What a thought! How dare they, etc, etc. That's fine you say, but this is Linux. Scary, hairy Linux. Well, Linux is changing... (the answer my friend is blowing in the wind.. ;-) I'm sorry, but if Mandrake doesn't keep up in the ease of use stakes then it may well get left behind. (See what you've done? I'm making threats now ;-) Linux *will* become 'easy'. It's plain daft to say otherwise. How come you're using Mandrake rather than Slackware anyway? ;-) Sir, I accuse you of taking the easy way out and using the completely ridiculous and 'bloated' command: 'startx' (without the quotes please ;-) I personally think the idea of Linux subverting Windows users is quite delicious (but I used to use Amiga's so I'm warped anyway). You may find it horrific, but I think it's funny to imagine a future where (thanks to a KDE theme say) folk actually think they are running 'Windows'. When in fact Linux is really the OS that is driving that familiar desktop. Windows doesn't send the blood surging to my groin to be honest. But a stable 'Windows' (a la KDE, etc) is fine in my book. Some folk really do have *things to do* with their computers. Smart people too. Like, um, doctors and physicists. Would you rather they were using Windows? Does it matter? I think so. I like the choice Linux offers. I know you were trying to help, but why frighten folk away with threats of sometimes well-written but often dated and techie 'guides'. Waving a 1000 page tome at someone won't endear them to Linux. Which is a shame. Particularly as Linux is heading for the desktop one way or another anyway. All this ease of use is bad news for die-hard Linux users I guess. Ah well, there's always four dimensional chess to while away those long winter evenings. In a recent interview Linus said that he can see why Windows has dominated the desktop. That he wants Linux to do the same. I'll drink to that. Shock horror, but we can actually learn a few things from Windows. It's not *all* bad (my God I said it!). I'm sorry, but given the momentum Linux has, it will happen regardless of the tantrums of 'true' Linux users who drift off to sleep every night by reciting the man pages for the Bash shell to themselves. But fear not true hackers! There is hope at hand. I hope the list don't see this as spam, but it does relate to Linux ease of use, so you will hopefully forgive me from quoting from our forthcoming catalogue. In fact I'd like the list to know that I'm working on my own brand new Linux distribution, not based on Red Hat, which will cater to all those lost souls who will have nothing to do once Linux has become 'easy'. I'm going to call it 'Tapux'. Why Tapux? Well, my distribution is going to be the first of a new breed of truly radical Linux distributions. In the Tapux box, which contains *only* free software, and a lock of Richard Stallman's hair preserved inside a clear plastic Gnu, will be the usual CD. Plus two magical extras. A 'keyboard' with one large space bar and no other characters. And a voucher. Which entitles you to the finest in medical care. This is necessary in order to operate Tapux as I'll explain. I admit the treatment *sounds* radical, but true hackers will understand the sacrifice. Basically the voucher will enable a qualified surgeon - but not a Tapux user himself - to humanely amputate *both* of your arms in a perfectly painless operation. Of course you can then license your redundant arms (GPL of course) to any of the fast food retailers taking part in our unique
Re: [newbie] libc5 or glibc
Try `ls -l /lib/libc*` I got (amongst other libs): -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1286208 Sep 9 13:48 /lib/libc-2.1.1.so* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Nov 10 01:14 /lib/libc.so.6 - libc-2.1.1.so* The top one is GNU libc (glibc) 2.1.1. This should be installed by default on a Helios system. If you need to upgrade, I'm not sure what I'd suggest. A lot of things depend on a certain version of libc, and if you upgrade it without upgrading those other programs, you may break things. It may just be easier to upgrade your distribution version, if you don't alreay have the correct version of glibc. -Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Hidong Kim wrote: How can I tell if my Linux installation is libc5 or glibc? Is upgrading a library as simple as installing the rpm? Thanks,
Re: [Re: [newbie] Networking Cookbook]
I've checked what I can find, but not looked in the right places I guess. The help I got was sufficient and quick. As for the HTML, sorry, I'll keep that in mind. Again, thanks to all for the help and information. I'll keep plugging. B. B. Jaguar wrote: Just don't send a question in HTML or ask one that you haven't looked in the archives for FIRST...:) ( the powers that be get a little testy when that happens...:)) Jaguar Toyswins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I've got a big stick, lots of patience and really do appreciate the pointer. Man, that was quick too! I think I like the people here, one of the few on the net I've found where folks are actually civil. B. B. Ben wrote: http://www.linux.org/help/howto.html more information than you can shake a stick at. Anyone know where I can get a good cookbook type help for networking? I've got 5 computers to network, including one 486 Win95, two Pentium Win 98 systems (one dual boots LINUX), an Apple iBook with AirPort card and Station and one LINUX only box. I'd like to use the LINUX box as either a Proxy or Proxy/Firewall and server, etc. to allow everything to use my printer hooked to one of the Win 98 boxes, limit internet access in a more secure mode and use the AX25 protocol to add in my amateur radio packet stuff. I'm checking out the amateur side of the house now, but need some basic LINUX information. What I have is now "old", (about 18 months), and a quick cookbook to get me started will make my hair loss less, I hope! Thanks as usual in advance for any and all pointers. B. B. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Kernel
Martin Cleaver wrote: Okay, I downloaded and installed the new kernel I suppose... but it gives me this cryptic message about changing lilo.conf. Unfortunately it does not tell me WHAT to change. It may sound silly, but I use Mandrake because I don't WANT to have to change things like lilo.conf, and if I am to, I will need very precise instructions... :-( Edit the /etc/lilo.conf file. Look for the x.x.x-x parts. Change them to the new numbers from the update. Look in the /boot directory. You should have something like 2.2.13-7 files and 2.2.13-22 files. The new numbers are the later ones (in this example 2.2.13-22). Make sure the file names match exactly what you are changing in /etc/lilo.conf. If you don't have files with new numbers, the new kernel didn't install. You have to download/install it as root. If you have a line in the /etc/lilo.conf that has "initrd" in it and it's NOT commented out with a "#" at the beginning of the line, you need to make one more file to get it all going. Log in as root on a console or in kde on an xterm. Enter mkinitrd /boot/initrd-x.x.x-xmdk.img x.x.x-xmdk Replace the x.x.x-x with your new number. Look in the /boot directory again. You should have a new initrd file with the new numbers. Change the initrd line in /etc/lilo.conf to have the new numbers also. Again, logged in as root on a console, once you have the files names changed to match your new names that are in /boot, enter lilo at the command prompt. It should read your lilo.conf file and put everything back out so that you can boot. You shouldn't get any errors. It should come up with the names of the partitions you boot. Hope the sun shines on you and try rebooting. Good luck! I sound like a newbie, am a newbie and want to remain a newbie... life's too short... Can anyone help me with the necessary change and also ask the powers that be to be a little more informative in the future? Rgds Martin -- Martin Cleaver MC Translations +31 (20) 6162224 fax: +31 (20) 8841230 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cleaver.nl
Re: [newbie] Kernel
Dennis wrote: On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 22:01:20 +0100, you wrote: Okay, I downloaded and installed the new kernel I suppose... but it gives me this cryptic message about changing lilo.conf. Unfortunately it does not tell me WHAT to change. It may sound silly, but I use Mandrake It didtold you to change the lilo.conf To a new person... arrg!! Type 'man lilo' (without the '') at a prompt and you will get all the explanation you need. because I don't WANT to have to change things like lilo.conf, and if I am to, I will need very precise instructions... :-( Do as I said above and you will get precise instructions. NOT!!! I sound like a newbie, am a newbie and want to remain a newbie... Then I hate to say it, but it sounds like Windoze is the OS for you. life's too short... Can anyone help me with the necessary change and also ask the powers that be to be a little more informative in the future? All it takes is a little bit of reading. Unfortunately Linux is not an OS for someone who doesnt want to learn anything about the OS on their computer. It is unlikely that it will ever be such an OS. Windows is the OS for folks who wish to learn nothing and want it all done for them. Not a flame...just the facts of life. And it is unlikely that even the Mandrake flavor of linux will ever be Windoze like in that respect. So I suggest that you set your mind to having to learn something about this fantastic OS or ?? I'm SO sick of people that seem to LIKE hurting, telling those of us that are just not masochists to do this. Until you get some experience, sometimes only one little piece at a time, the mans mean nothing. Most of the time, you don't know what to look for. Gee, I'd like to print. What do I do? Check the FAQ and HOWTO that TRY to help, but just never seem to apply, or they refer you to another one for a part that has to work first, which then refers you to the previous one because that part has to work first... Not everyone learns or understands the same way. The lilo manual tells you everything you never wanted to know unless you need that part of it. When you are a brand new Linux user, reading it and understanding it can take weeks! All you usually need is a small part of something. Once you understand that part, you can gather more information relating to it and the next and the next. It sure ain't magic. Real multitasking and real multiuser in Linux are great. The rest hurts. I am not a newbie to the world of computers, programming or operating systems. I've been in world of hurt since I installed this OS. I'm learning a little at a time. But it will take me LOTS of time to figure even some of it out. I actually have a life aside from learning Linux and I like it MUCH better. Linux is just a tool for me to use to get something accomplished. I don't worship it. And it's good none of you know how many times I've wanted to stomp the cd into dust. The good part about having the source code is you can change/fix things if you need to. The bad part about having the source code is you probably have to. There are MANY people on this list, that take the time to help those of us that are lost, to go in the right direction. They do help. The best help is personal, to the problem you are having. To those, THANK YOU! Sometimes it's not so difficult to figure out what to do, or where to find it, as it is what applies. You might get sick of answering the same question a hundred thousand times, but it just means that there are a hundred thousand new users with the same problems. To the rest, just because someone wants to use Linux, that doesn't mean they want to LIVE it. Rgds Martin
Re: [newbie] Want To Lose Weight For The Holidays-New Pill CanDoIt -gpav
We got spammed with this same message on my vintage bus board at type2.com. Oh well... Sam - Original Message - From: Toyswins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Want To Lose Weight For The Holidays-New Pill CanDoIt -gpav Great gift for Christmas.. I did like the answers in the "funny" mode however. Got a kick out of someones imagination working overtime. Will do the same. Thanks. B. B. Ken Wilson wrote: Report it through www.spamcop.net I did. Maybe if the host gets enough spam notices they'll do something about it. -Original Message- From: Toyswins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 18, 1999 2:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Want To Lose Weight For The Holidays-New Pill Can DoIt -gpav Telephone solicitors have found you again John!! So true, but just delete this one, I did. Pisses you off though huh? Me too. Maybe the folks sponsoring this mail list can fix it B. B.
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
You guys rock!! You've all helped me SO much! I shut my computer down after it locked up, and when I restarted it and tried to do a -showconfig so I could get some help from xfree86 and the damned thing started up in KDE!!! I think there might be one last issue concerning the width of my screen and my clock in the righthand corner pushed off the screen...but I'll probably fool with it later, for now I'll just surf! :-] Sam Roza P.S.-- any way to get fonts and stuff to work more window-like? - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues. Sam Roza wrote: Ernie, I am past this now...I know the chipset(GD5436), and the RAM is at least 2 MB(there's a Kingston VRAM upgrade on the motherboard). I've run xf86config and Xconfigurator so many times I can enter all responses without looking now. I also have the specs for my monitor, and setting the correct settings does nothing but give me a screen so huge in size that I have to scroll my mouse in all directions to see it. Still nothing(as my last posts say)...I've updated my config file just like the readme's say and I'm at my ropes end. I don't think I've ever had this much trouble with Win95... Don't despair! Sounds like you've got all of the beginnings working, now it's just time to tune the behaviour. Go ahead and start X again into that huge desktop. Try the Ctrl-Alt-NumPad+ and Ctrl-Alt-NumPad- key combinations to see if any of those help with the big desktop issue. Really, it's just a matter of editing /etc/X11/XF86Config to get rid of the resolutions that you don't want. But first, make sure that the larger resolutions really work. Drop a note back if this helps. -- Steve Philp, MCSE / MCP+I Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] How do I modify /etc/fstab before booting Linux?
If you moved your current Linux parition down in the drive, I believe you have to redo lilo also. Try booting the boot diskette and see if you can get at your current drive. If you can, you're in business. If not, use the boot diskette and a rescue diskette (root file system), mount your current partition. If your current partition mounts as /dev/hda2 into /mnt/, then you'd use that. You'll find out if your partition name actually changed or not. I ended up with hda2 as my linux parition, but it's the first partition on the drive. The win parition is hda1 which is the second one. It might be partition magic and how it lists things in the partition table. Once you have your current partition mounted, 'chroot /mnt/' to change over to your current partition. Change the '/mnt/' to your mount. Change /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf to point to your current partition's new name. Then enter 'lilo' and it should rewrite lilo with the new stuff. I don't believe that lilo writes addresses relative to the start of the partition, I think it's the whole disk. M Thompson wrote: I used PartitionMagic and added an extra Linux partition before my existing Linux partitions. I believe I need to modify the /etc/fstab file to reflect this new setup. Once I am able to modify the /etc/fstab file, I need to increment the device names by one. How do I modify /etc/fstab before booting Linux? Thanks for all the help, Matt BTW - a very generous person gave me their copy of Redhat 6.1 Deluxe when they purchased Redhat 6.1 Professional. I couldn't pass up the opportunity to install Redhat 6.1, but the partition I made for it lies above the 1024 cylinder boundry. I therefore had to create an extra partition that resides within the first 1024 cylinders on the disk. I'll then mount this new partition as /boot so I can boot into Redhat. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] SAVAGE 3D Drivers
I'm installing Mandrake 6,1 and I've an S3 86C391 Savage 3D The system installs Standard VGA how can I do to install the proper drivers? where can I download them??? Thanks Legendary Captain HOOK
[newbie] How do I configure netscape to pick up mail from my server?
I have a home server. People are able to send me email directly to my server. I would rather use Netscape to read my mail (From a Windows client.) but I am unsure of how to configure netscape to do that? Has anyone done this? Thanks.
Re: [newbie] Want To Lose Weight For The Holidays-New Pill CanDoIt -gpav
Great gift for Christmas.. I did like the answers in the "funny" mode however. Got a kick out of someones imagination working overtime. Will do the same. Thanks. B. B. Ken Wilson wrote: Report it through www.spamcop.net I did. Maybe if the host gets enough spam notices they'll do something about it. -Original Message- From: Toyswins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 18, 1999 2:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Want To Lose Weight For The Holidays-New Pill Can DoIt -gpav Telephone solicitors have found you again John!! So true, but just delete this one, I did. Pisses you off though huh? Me too. Maybe the folks sponsoring this mail list can fix it B. B.
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Steve, WHen you run "setup" from linux 3 and go through all of your fine-tuning, you come to the bottom and it says "desktop settings". If you go through that menu, it will allow you to set your X to start up in "plain X" or KDE. When I chose "plain X" and did startx, a very plain looking GUI shows up, and looks great! But you don't get hi-res, and I think for a novice it lacks quite a bit of functions. I will go to the config file and look over the samples for monitors and edit it. I will also go to XFree86.org and do some more reading. Sam - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues. Sam Roza wrote: Steve, all, Thanks for the replies. Ok, I've edited and all of that, but I can't seem to find the right combos(noaccel still doesn't work, just locks up)... You might try the release notes for 3.3.5 at the XFree website. They might have better information about any problems with using the Cirrus chipset. XFree is at www.xfree86.org Now I've discovered that I can get my plain GUI to work excellently, but the KDE desktop just locks up. Not sure why it locks up when it should just look crappy. What do you mean "plain GUI"? You mentioned in an earlier message that you were going to boot with "linux 3"... that will get you just plain text mode that doesn't have much to do with video card resolutions at all. When the "can you see this message" message pops up after setting up, everything looks good until the countdown numbers change, then it fails to redraw, and all of the numbers and letters write over each other. Makes me think this is a Monitor issue... Well, the monitor only draws what the video card tells it to. I'd look into deja.com to see if there are any messages from other Cirrus users that might point out what sorts of problems they've encountered. My monitor is a Compaq V70 17" monitor Hor. sync 30-69 and Vert. 37.5 @1280x1024. It is not in the monitor list, and when I set custom params, I choose the closest to it, and I get garbage, go as low as possible...same effect. Are you comfortable editing /etc/X11/XF86Config? You can set the correct parameters in that file. Won't make alot of difference until you get the video card issues sorted out though... -- Steve Philp, MCSE / MCP+I Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Re: [[newbie] Netscape Configuration]]
Eric Hanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, thanks for the help. Netscape is up and running...The fonts seem to be alittle hard to read, Smaller, blocky looking..Not as smooth looking as Win-Netscape. === Hi Eric, For now, try going into edit/prefernces/appearance/fontsTry a larger font size. it'll look much better. If you really want to go crazy try the google search engine and type in "deuglification". You'll find some good sites that will offer help there. HTH, Mike Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [[newbie] Can you recommend a Linux Mandrake book.]
"Tom Le Page" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a good Linux Mandrake book. I need info on setting up ipchains as firewall protection, samba, plus others. TIA Tom Le Page It's not Mandrake specific, but try "Running Linux" from O'Reilly. Be sure to get the 3rd edition. Mike ++ Michael Scottaline COL 2.2 Linux 2.2.5 * * * * * * * * * * * It's a fresh wind that Blows Against the Empire Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [[newbie] Just a quick note]
Hugh Semmler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all of you a Merry Christmas. === Thank You. Merry Christmas to you and yours also, Hugh! === To those of you who don't celebrate Happy Holidays. On another subject, Looks like were getting ADSL here where I live. This alone will make this a great year for me :) = Hey, that's great! Hope the cost is reasonable for you. Enjoy!! = Well take care all of you Hugh -- "I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere." Then why do I keep getting the message "file does Not exist." ?? Mike Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [[newbie] help me please(internet)]
"g@vin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Can some please help me . l'v tried to connect to the internet with Mandrake
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everything go,s well press connect and then it happens "initializing
program" (or something like that ) and then nothing. and now l'm left with
windoze lnter explorer.(great). thanx.
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You're not giving us much info to go on. How are you trying to connect?
Using kppp, or some other modem connection device? Have you edited
/etc/resolv.conf ? You should add:
search your isp
nameserver dns#
nameserver dns#
{yeah, your ISP shpuld provide you with 2 dns#'s}
HTH,
Mike
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Re: [newbie] terminal emulator
hi... thank god I managed to solve the problem... now the terminal emulator works... for those who are using SiS vga chip and bound to have the same problem with me, why not give a try to use XFCom_SiS server from SuSe linux... I dled it and there!.. I can use all of my terminals now... thanks to all --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi... I have this problem.. I install mandrake 6.1 and got the X window working, but all terminal emulators, console, and likes didn't work well. When i invokes it, all it displays is black box. Bad display also occur in some program like xfontcel and xvidtune. After a few tries, i found that its works well if I use VGA16 server but not with SVGA server. Other things in Gnome and KDE works well with SVGA. Any idea how to solve this problem... I have to use SVGA because other program dont have any problem. This is the only drawback in my system now. Please help.. __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: [[newbie] Sound Setup]
"Jamey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Attachment: MIME Type: multipart/alternative - Excuse me for asking for so much help! I just purchased linux about 2 days ago, and I think I'm doing fair for a first timer. Anyway my problem is: First of all I had a SB Live value card but i found out that linux did not support it, So I took it out and enable my onboard sound chip. Linux found it (By the way I have L-Mandrake 6.5) But when it probed it it came up with an error telling me to add (VERIFY N) into the sndconfg file. So I did and tryed again but this time when it probes the card it completely looks up so bad the only way out is RESET! Im wondering how I can edit it manually, Ive got all the info from windows ( Dual boot) . Or should i just purchase another sound card? = No, not yet. Try www.linuxnewbie.org They just published an article on this card today. Mike = ## Michael Scottaline Linux 2.2.13 ## Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Sam Roza wrote: Steve, all, Thanks for the replies. Ok, I've edited and all of that, but I can't seem to find the right combos(noaccel still doesn't work, just locks up)... You might try the release notes for 3.3.5 at the XFree website. They might have better information about any problems with using the Cirrus chipset. XFree is at www.xfree86.org Now I've discovered that I can get my plain GUI to work excellently, but the KDE desktop just locks up. Not sure why it locks up when it should just look crappy. What do you mean "plain GUI"? You mentioned in an earlier message that you were going to boot with "linux 3"... that will get you just plain text mode that doesn't have much to do with video card resolutions at all. When the "can you see this message" message pops up after setting up, everything looks good until the countdown numbers change, then it fails to redraw, and all of the numbers and letters write over each other. Makes me think this is a Monitor issue... Well, the monitor only draws what the video card tells it to. I'd look into deja.com to see if there are any messages from other Cirrus users that might point out what sorts of problems they've encountered. My monitor is a Compaq V70 17" monitor Hor. sync 30-69 and Vert. 37.5 @1280x1024. It is not in the monitor list, and when I set custom params, I choose the closest to it, and I get garbage, go as low as possible...same effect. Are you comfortable editing /etc/X11/XF86Config? You can set the correct parameters in that file. Won't make alot of difference until you get the video card issues sorted out though... -- Steve Philp, MCSE / MCP+I Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[newbie] cobol?
Does anyone know of a cobol compiler for linux ? Thanks Jeff
Re: [Re: [newbie] Want To Lose Weight For The Holidays-New PillCanDoIt -gpav]
Yes...all the nervous sweat waiting for your NEW kernel to compile and then the restart to see if it worked...:) Jaguar "Joseph S. Gardner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! All that stability, flexability, user configurability, and now it even helps you lose weight! Is there NOTHING Linux can't do?!?! Change the cat litter box. 8-) Joe Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] TAKE ME OFF THIS DAMN LIST
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, you wrote: i've tried the commands needed to get off list... if i'm not taken off in a few days i'm gonna mail bomb this damn thing... i'm getting pissed off... someone please take me of this list... YOU are the only person who can remove yourself. You MUST send an email to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" with the body message "unsubscribe newbie" (all minus quotes.) If you did not subscribe from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" you must include the email address you subscribed from (such as "unsubscribe newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]" minus the quotes.) John
Re: [newbie] Netscape questions...
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, you wrote: How do you get NutScrape to load all images in a web page without having to click them, or right click and ask to have them loaded? edit preferences advanced automatically load pictures and other data types Oh, one more thing...how do you reate a new user from root? adduser from the command line. John
[newbie] Kernel panic during first install
Hello everybody, I'm trying to install Mandrake 6.1 on a Dual P400 workstation with a 6 Go SCSI drive and Windows NT already installed on a FAT partition. But at the begining of the install process, i have the following error : VFS : Cannot open root device 08:21 kernel panic : VFS : Unable to mount root fs on 08:21 Thank you for your help !
[newbie] silly question: mandrake 6.0 and Y2K?
I found the 6.1-Y2K page at the mandrake web site, which indicates that Helios is tested compliant. It occurred to me, "what about 6.0?" There are (I assume) plenty of us running 6.0, and while I understand linux is generally free from Y2K problems, are there any issues with Venus I should know? - alan / note my new email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /
Re: [newbie] cobol?
http://www.portalux.com/development/languages/cobol/last_mods.html has some info. jeff wrote: Does anyone know of a cobol compiler for linux ? Thanks Jeff
Re: [newbie] Any Linux web server to recommend ?
coin wrote: Dear ALL, Anyone has any idea of any web hosting using linux with apache and mysql Thanks.. Luff, coin http://www.slashdot.org
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Hi, Sam, If you're still getting that huge screen that requires you to scroll the mouse to see the entire thing, you may not have the "Virtual" parameter set in your /etc/X11/XF86Config. The Virtual parameter should be set to the same pixel resolution that you want to see on the screen. For example, I like 1024 x 768 at 32 bpp for my machine. Here's a piece from my /etc/X11/XF86Config: Section "Screen" Driver "svga" # Use Device "Generic VGA" for Standard VGA 320x200x256 #Device "Generic VGA" Device "mystique" Monitor "vivitron" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 # Omit the Modes line for the "Generic VGA" device Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" ViewPort0 0 # Use Virtual 320 200 for Generic VGA EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "1024x768" ViewPort0 0 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection EndSection Notice in the Depth 32 section, I have one screen resolution mode and the same resolution for the Virtual parameter. I edited this file manually after running xf86config. I start X with 'startx -- -bpp 32'. This starts X in 32 bits per pixel, which according to the /etc/X11/XF86Config defaults to a screen resolution of 1024 x 768. Hope this helps. Good luck, Hidong Sam Roza wrote: Steve, all, Thanks for the replies. Ok, I've edited and all of that, but I can't seem to find the right combos(noaccel still doesn't work, just locks up)... Now I've discovered that I can get my plain GUI to work excellently, but the KDE desktop just locks up. Not sure why it locks up when it should just look crappy. When the "can you see this message" message pops up after setting up, everything looks good until the countdown numbers change, then it fails to redraw, and all of the numbers and letters write over each other. Makes me think this is a Monitor issue... My monitor is a Compaq V70 17" monitor Hor. sync 30-69 and Vert. 37.5 @1280x1024. It is not in the monitor list, and when I set custom params, I choose the closest to it, and I get garbage, go as low as possible...same effect. Any ideas?? - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues. Sam Roza wrote: Ernie, I am past this now...I know the chipset(GD5436), and the RAM is at least 2 MB(there's a Kingston VRAM upgrade on the motherboard). I've run xf86config and Xconfigurator so many times I can enter all responses without looking now. I also have the specs for my monitor, and setting the correct settings does nothing but give me a screen so huge in size that I have to scroll my mouse in all directions to see it. Still nothing(as my last posts say)...I've updated my config file just like the readme's say and I'm at my ropes end. I don't think I've ever had this much trouble with Win95... Don't despair! Sounds like you've got all of the beginnings working, now it's just time to tune the behaviour. Go ahead and start X again into that huge desktop. Try the Ctrl-Alt-NumPad+ and Ctrl-Alt-NumPad- key combinations to see if any of those help with the big desktop issue. Really, it's just a matter of editing /etc/X11/XF86Config to get rid of the resolutions that you don't want. But first, make sure that the larger resolutions really work. Drop a note back if this helps. -- Steve Philp, MCSE / MCP+I Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Want To Lose Weight For The Holidays-New PillCanDoIt -gpav
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! All that stability, flexability, user configurability, and now it even helps you lose weight! Is there NOTHING Linux can't do?!?! Change the cat litter box. 8-) Just wait until my Mandrake-powered robot is out on the market! That's one of the many "unpleasent" tasks I've designed it to do (JK -- don't look for it any time soon...I'm not REALLY designing a 'bot! G) John
Re: [newbie] A question
correct, I had very few problems w/ w95 oem during my last few months (after 3 yrs of much headaches, tweaking reinstalling, patches, etc...). However w/ Linux, if something happens to go wrong, you can fix it. May take a little trouble, but once it's fixed, it's fixed (no problems so far). As far as I'm concerned, Linux isn't some GOD of OS, but yet a system unique to windows users that offers a platform that can be customized to one's needs w/o purchasing expensive software. For what you save in $$, you spend in time, but you also gain more knowledge of the inner workings of your OS. I'm just taking it slowly now, got video, got sound, got ISP connectivity, got SO installed, so I'll just make little steps, get some books, and maybe in a few months, I'll be better prepared to tackle Linux more in depth. And this list has been a lifesaver! To all willing to help out a poor newbie, Thanks! -Josh mshirley wrote: Perhaps we are overlooking the obvious here. A fresh install of W95/W98 with the patches needed doesn't crash quite as much as you would think. I have been running a fresh install of W95OSR2 for several days now without a crash or reboot. I have noticed that when a lot of shareware is installed, it crashes more frequently, which seems to backup the rumor I heard once that shareware programmers sometimes modify system files slightly to detect previous instances of installation. It seems like this would affect the OS sooner or later. On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Dan Ferris wrote: | I have a question. | | After spending my day at work fixing some problems with Windows it lead me to | think about this. | | Why is Linux more Stable than Windows??? | All I hear about is how great Linux is compared to Windows but none of my books | really explain WHY except that it is free. | | Linux is multi-user preemptive multi-tasking, multi-threading, and has memory | protection between applications. | | Windows is multi-user multi-tasking and multi-threading, and has memory | protection between applications. | | Linux never crashes. Windows crashes all the time. | | Now before you anwser. I want REAL anwsers. Not anwsers like "Well, Windows | sucks because Micorsoft is big and rich." | | Anwsers like "Windows sucks because applications don't check to see if they | should give up the CPU for another application."(JUST an example) are more | acceptable. | | I have run Linux for almost a year with no real problems at all. I have run | windows for several years with nothing but grief. | | Just curious thanks. | Dan
[newbie] Kmail and associating URLs.
Hi, Is there any setting to associate URLs in kmail to default to Netscape instead of KFM? I'm presently using the old cut and paste method - not very efficient. -- Ronald
[newbie] KMIX won't work
Hi. tried too use the Kmixer only to get the error: "MIXER FAILURE kmix Could not open mixer Perhaps you have no permission..login as root do a chmod a+rw /dev/mixer" Ok so I did that, still won't work. Please Help if you can TIA Dwayne
[newbie] Unsuscribe
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RE: [newbie] Sound Setup
Hi, I've been following the threads on getting a sblive card to work with Linux. I tried all the steps outlined in a previous link suggested (www.linuxnewbie.org), and as outlined herein, pretty much. At the step where you run the "make" command, I get this error: bash: make: command not found. Can anyone tell me what is wrong here? I'm using LM 6.5 with a typical install, as far as I know. Should I be using another shell or none at all? How do I run the "make" command? Thanks, -Original Message- From: Joseph S. Gardner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 6:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Sound Setup Jamey wrote: Well first of all SORRY about the html! Second im not an idiot i can read the error! Sorry i couldnt remember the whole error from linux when im in windows - Original Message - From: Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 5:54 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Sound Setup First off, because someone is going to tell you anyway, turn off the html. It is considered poor netiquette. Secondly, it's not '(VERIFY N)', it's '(VERIFYLD N)' that goes in the file. -Original Message- From: Jamey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 18, 1999 10:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Sound Setup snip OK enough name calling. Lets see if we can keep this civil. I, myself being a newbie, had the same problem as you. I did however manage to get the silly thing to work by following the directions included with the readme that gets unzipped from the tarball. Note however that I found them to be a little confusing but by stumbling around I finally figured it out. Let's see if we can keep you from having the same problem. I'm going to assume you have very little knowledge (like myself) so forgive me if I go into too much detail, it's easier than assuming too much. NO RECOMPILING OF THE KERNEL SHOULD BE NEEDED, so don't panic. 8-) 1. log in as root ( I selected KDE as my login simply because I could easily open windows and move file around) 2. download the latest tarball from http://opensource.soundblaster.com to a temporary folder in your home 3. disconnect from the Internet (don't want to stay connected to long for security reasons) 4. from the KDE menu bar open your home directory and select the folder where you downloaded the tarball 5. with the cursor over the window press "CTRL + T" to open a terminal window (or open it from the file pull down menu) 6. in the new terminal window type "tar xvzf emu10k1.whatever.the.name.is". this should create a sub folder which will contain a whole bunch of files. the 2 important ones to you will be the readme and a "makefile", sorry I think that's the name. 7. tag the readme file and in there will be a whole lotta scary words like recompile and kernel - IGNORE THEM. just leave this window open so you can follow the directions. 8. using the "UP ARROW" buttons in your home window back out to the "root" directory and find the "/etc" folder and then the "/etc/conf.modules" file. right mouse click it and tag it. this should open an editor window and you can proceed screw things up from there (just kidding). 9. do a "save as" from the file pull down menu to give yourself a back up, something like old.conf.modules and close the window. Very important here. if you don't close the file after saving and editing it the computer will NOT recognize the saved information - this cost me several days of head banging trying to figure out what I did wrong. 10. refresh the folder window and select the "conf.modules" file. this shooed open the file in a new editor window. 11. the readme file tells you to remove the lines referring to "soundcore". go ahead and remove them (if you've got any, it is possible you may not if you haven't installed any other sound cards) then add the "alias -something-something- sound" line at the end of the file per the "readme" file. 12. next add the two lines referring to the "insmod -something-something" (can you tell I have a poor memory and am not sitting in front of my linux box 8-)). 13. save the file and CLOSE the editor, you're done with the scary part. 14. go back to your "home" directory window and press the home icon in the tool bar. next select the temp folder with the downloaded tarball file, then the "emu10k1" sub folder until you see the "readme" and "makefile" files again. now open a terminal window (CTRL + T). important, you must be in the sub folder when doing the next step. 15. now you're ready to compile the sound module a. type "make" b. type "make clean" c. type "make install" the "make install should take care of copying the "emu10k1.0" file the proper directory for you as instructed by the "readme" file. 16. YOU'RE
Re: [newbie] Kmail and associating URLs.
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, you wrote: Hi, Is there any setting to associate URLs in kmail to default to Netscape instead of KFM? I'm presently using the old cut and paste method - not very efficient. None that I know of. If you find out differently would you be kind enough to bring it to my attention? Thanks... :-) John
Re: [newbie] Modem Settings
Zoom, as far as I know, makes great modems (intern or xtern). w/ a mail in rebate, costs ~ $60-80 USD. If you do have to get a new modem (make sure you can't set jumpers in your present one), know what com/irq's you need and set the jumpers b4 install. I have a Zoom 2919 internal V.90/56flex, and once configured, operates fine... www.zoomtel.com Hope this helps. Happy Holiday's :-) -Josh "Joseph S. Gardner" wrote: Ryan Gardner wrote: I've used search and everything and looked all across my computer to configure my modem. As of now my computer doesn't know I have a modem. Where can I go to configure it? Thanks a lot. Ryan __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com Ryan, What type of modem do you have?? As a rule PCI modems, Winmodems, and HCF don't work. Nor do any that say "requires Windows xx.x " They are all M$ trash. Your best bet is an external (guaranteed to be a serial modem), or any modem that allows you to set a jumper to assign a com / IRQ. -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Sound Setup
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, you wrote: Hi, I've been following the threads on getting a sblive card to work with Linux. I tried all the steps outlined in a previous link suggested (www.linuxnewbie.org), and as outlined herein, pretty much. At the step where you run the "make" command, I get this error: bash: make: command not found. Can anyone tell me what is wrong here? I'm using LM 6.5 with a typical install, as far as I know. Should I be using another shell or none at all? How do I run the "make" command? Thanks, Have you compiled anything before? If not, you may not have the c-compiler installed. John
Re: [newbie] Sound Setup
Thomas Cox wrote: Hi, I've been following the threads on getting a sblive card to work with Linux. I tried all the steps outlined in a previous link suggested (www.linuxnewbie.org), and as outlined herein, pretty much. At the step where you run the "make" command, I get this error: bash: make: command not found. Can anyone tell me what is wrong here? I'm using LM 6.5 with a typical install, as far as I know. Should I be using another shell or none at all? How do I run the "make" command? Thanks, snip Are you running it as "root"? -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[newbie] Informacion en castellano
Saludos!! Por lo q he visto hay gente hispanoparlante por esta lista... muy interesante, a ver si alguno sabe donde puedo conseguir algun documento que merezca la pena sobre mandrake en castellano Muchas gracias de antemano... Se despide con un cordial saludo El Legendario Capitan HOOK
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[newbie] Adaptec Drivers
Does anyone knows where I can find some drivers for my Adaptec AHA 1510B? Or some knows how to setup it? thanks, Alejandro Arredondo
Re: [newbie] libc5 or glibc
Matt Stegman wrote: Try `ls -l /lib/libc*` I got (amongst other libs): -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1286208 Sep 9 13:48 /lib/libc-2.1.1.so* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Nov 10 01:14 /lib/libc.so.6 - libc-2.1.1.so* The top one is GNU libc (glibc) 2.1.1. This should be installed by default on a Helios system. If you need to upgrade, I'm not sure what I'd suggest. A lot of things depend on a certain version of libc, and if you upgrade it without upgrading those other programs, you may break things. It may just be easier to upgrade your distribution version, if you don't alreay have the correct version of glibc. -Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Hidong Kim wrote: How can I tell if my Linux installation is libc5 or glibc? Is upgrading a library as simple as installing the rpm? Thanks, Hi, Matt, Thanks for the tip. Here's the output of my 'ls -l /lib/libc*': -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3070220 Oct 13 1998 /lib/libc-2.0.7.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Jun 2 1999 /lib/libc.so.6 - libc-2.0.7.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Jun 2 1999 /lib/libcom_err.so.2 - libcom_err.so.2.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6209 Aug 28 1998 /lib/libcom_err.so.2.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 181993 Oct 13 1998 /lib/libcrypt-2.0.7.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Jun 2 1999 /lib/libcrypt.so.1 - libcrypt-2.0.7.so I guess it's time to upgrade to Helios. I'm running Festen (5.3). Hidong
Re: [newbie] Instalation Woes
I'll try to help with the first part. The second one, I can't help at all. Mike Perry wrote: I am re-sending this message as the first time I sent it there were heaps of problems with the newbie mailing list and I received no replies. This time I am more hopeful :-) I just installed Linux-Mandrake 6.1 on my sons machine, and have the following problems: 1st I believe that there is a conflict between his Creative Vibra128 PCI sound card and the 3C509 NIC because if I run sndconfig the soundcard is apparently detected fine, and plays the test sound but afterwards if I ping my network the computer TOTALLY locks up, only a hardware reset works. The NIC works fine as long as I don't try and run sndconfig. Login as root on a console or xterm and enter the following: echo "irqs --" junk cat /proc/interrupts junk echo "io --" junk cat /proc/ioports junk echo "conf.modules --" junk cat /etc/conf.modules junk This will give you a list of what is being used for irqs and addresses for your cards, and how the system is trying to set them up, in the file called "junk" (you can change the name). If you just want to see them on the screen, don't do the echo commands and don't do the " junk" or " junk" parts of the commands. You should be able to use any editor to open the junk file to look at what you have. The following is mine. irqs -- CPU0 0:9954458 XT-PIC timer 1: 32551 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 5: 2531 XT-PIC eth0 ---ethernet card irq 7: 0 XT-PIC soundblaster ---sound card irq 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc 11: 275355 XT-PIC aic7xxx 12: 1797 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 13: 1 XT-PIC fpu 14: 14113214 XT-PIC ide0 15: 5 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 ERR: 0 io -- -001f : dma1 0020-003f : pic1 0040-005f : timer 0060-006f : keyboard 0070-007f : rtc 0080-008f : dma page reg 00a0-00bf : pic2 00c0-00df : dma2 00f0-00ff : fpu 0170-0177 : ide1 01f0-01f7 : ide0 0220-022f : soundblaster ---sound card addresses 0240-024f : eth0 ---ethernet card addresses 02f8-02ff : serial(auto) 0376-0376 : ide1 03c0-03df : vga+ 03f6-03f6 : ide0 03f8-03ff : serial(auto) e400-e4be : aic7xxx f000-f007 : ide0 f008-f00f : ide1 conf.modules -- alias scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc alias eth0 eepro---ethernet card driver options eepro io=0x240 irq=5---your driver will differ # pre-install pcmcia_core /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start alias sound sb ---sound driver pre-install sound insmod sound dmabuf=1 ---sound module options sb io=0x220 irq=7 dma=1 dma16=3 mpu_io=0x330 ---sound config What does your list say? It seems like they are being configured and end up sharing irqs or addresses. 2nd the update icon doesn't work in KDE. Awaiting your words of wisdom: Mike Perry RD Dep. Netafim Magal. Linux -- the Ultimate Windows Service Pack
Re: [newbie] Display - Gtk warning
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Francois Massonneau wrote: Hi, When I want to run a program, this is the warning message I've (and of course, the program doesn't fire up) : Gtk-WARNING ** : cannot open display. I have a Matrox Millenium II, and have no problem when running Xwindow. What do I have to do to make it works ? Thanks. Francois Set $DISPLAY, and try again.. export DISPLAY=:0 I can export this ok and it shows in my env, but it doesn't fix the errors about $DISPLAY that I'm getting. Well, it fixes the part where it tells me $DISPLAY is not setup in env. Can you help here? # netcfg _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 Traceback (innermost last): File "/usr/lib/rhs/netcfg/netcfg.py", line 24, in ? from rhtkinter import * File "/usr/lib/rhs/python/rhtkinter.py", line 52, in ? e = Entry() File "/usr/lib/python1.5/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1288, in __init__ Widget.__init__(self, master, 'entry', cnf, kw) File "/usr/lib/python1.5/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1042, in __init__ BaseWidget._setup(self, master, cnf) File "/usr/lib/python1.5/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1017, in _setup _default_root = Tk() File "/usr/lib/python1.5/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 844, in __init__ self.tk = _tkinter.create(screenName, baseName, className) TclError: couldn't connect to display ":0" -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
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I have noticed that many things work Much better if you do a Custom install and put in EVERYTHING! i know this takes up a lot of hd space but you will run into less trouble if as many rpm's as posiable are installed like the mandrakeupdate that is not installed on the workstation seting but is if you choose everthing.. Mickey
Re: [newbie] Display - Gtk warning
Audrey Beck wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Francois Massonneau wrote: Hi, When I want to run a program, this is the warning message I've (and of course, the program doesn't fire up) : Gtk-WARNING ** : cannot open display. I have a Matrox Millenium II, and have no problem when running Xwindow. What do I have to do to make it works ? Thanks. Francois Set $DISPLAY, and try again.. export DISPLAY=:0 I can export this ok and it shows in my env, but it doesn't fix the errors about $DISPLAY that I'm getting. Well, it fixes the part where it tells me $DISPLAY is not setup in env. Can you help here? # netcfg _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 Traceback (innermost last): File "/usr/lib/rhs/netcfg/netcfg.py", line 24, in ? from rhtkinter import * File "/usr/lib/rhs/python/rhtkinter.py", line 52, in ? e = Entry() File "/usr/lib/python1.5/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1288, in __init__ Widget.__init__(self, master, 'entry', cnf, kw) File "/usr/lib/python1.5/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1042, in __init__ BaseWidget._setup(self, master, cnf) File "/usr/lib/python1.5/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1017, in _setup _default_root = Tk() File "/usr/lib/python1.5/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 844, in __init__ self.tk = _tkinter.create(screenName, baseName, className) TclError: couldn't connect to display ":0" It may be a stupid question, but is X running when you're trying to start netcfg? -- Steve Philp, MCSE / MCP+I Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Ati Rage 128
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Bassem Houballah wrote: %_Hi, how can i install my ati rage 128 under linux-mandrake 6.1 Thanks for any help Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: According to www.xfree86.org/cardlist.html this card is not yet supported under Linux. OTOH, I seem to recall hearing that it uses the same chipset as the Mach64. You might try using the XF86_Mach64 X server and see if that works. If it doesn't you've really not lost anything. :-) John
[newbie] Installing via PLIP
I have been attempting to install Mandrake via PLIP with little success. I have been following the PLIP Install HOWTO v1.15, 26 Nov 1999; adapting it for the particular distribution I wish to install. I have been successful in setting up the source side: I can mount the cdrom via nfs, it appears I have the exports, hosts.allow, and hosts.deny file configured correctly. I am struggling to get the target to accept PLIP. I use the bootnet.img file and select NFS install. Upon loading the PLIP module (autoprobe) I receive "I can't find the device anywhere on your system!" following are the last three lines from console ALT-F3: * picked driver PLIP (parallel port) * running: /bin/insmod /bin/insmod /modules/plip.o * insmod failed! and the line from console ALT-F5 Cannot find archive member plip.o: file does not exist in archive I have tried the bootnet.img disk from 3 different machines with the same result and it appears I have the latest image from the ftp mirrors I've searched (Dated Sept. 7 and Sept. 8 1999--exact same file size). Am I using the wrong image or neglecting some important boot: options?? Any insight would be deeply appreciated. Thanks, -Jim O.
Re: [newbie] A question (kinda long)
On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. wrote: First there is the reason Linux is so difficult for the new user. Linux does not try to support all hardware combinations imaginable, and it only installs support for what is really needed on the system (I'm guessing here). Yah also linux handles hardware communication more efficiently than win. Lots o' 1s and 0s get lost in Windows's software layer between the main OS and the hardware, which i suspect is also one of the reasons Windows is so bloated. I mean it's alot easier to just open a file and then write out data to the open file descriptor (as linux does) rather than talking to a driver which in turn interprets that to the hardware. . .there's a great description of device file handling in Linux Programming Unleashed if anyone wants more specifics. . . Second and I suspect the real reason for stability is the fact that Linux starts in "protected mode" and remains there throughout the session, while Windows 9x starts in "real mode", then switches to "protected mode" when it starts the GUI. But then at the same time, DOS is still running in "real mode" underneath the rest of Windows 9x - which is operating in protected mode?! Actually the way windows uses processor states is really loopy (big surprise eh?). It's like. . .it starts in v86, then dips into pmode long enough to activate pmode memory addressing, then falls back into v86 mode. So its like. . .running DOS but being able to see all the memory without an ems/xms driver. So we're doing a really phased out hybrid of 20 bit addressing and 32 bit addressing, in which case im pretty sure preemptive multitasking is not possible. That in mind, when you run multiple apps under windows, you essentially have a bunch of things floating around in this one big shared memory/resource pool. Inevitably, some of them are going to request resources that are unavailable, ie an in use memory space, or request the services of an already in use library or something like that. Under ideal circumstances windows will just say oops cant do that and wait till the resource is open, but as we all probably know, that usually doesnt happen.): The AMD K6 Multimedia Technology Manual has a really good write up on different multitasking environments. Also one of the guys from the demogroup Triton wrote a really neat paper on pmode memory access under v86 mode. . .i think its somewhere on scene.org if anyone wants to read up on that. Windows also manages virtual machines really strangely. It will actually start up VMs in different processor states, ie it can start one up in pmode, then one in v86 mode depending on what kind of app is being run. . .probably one of the reasons that running win3.1 apps under win9x is not really advocated. . .putting the two together=badness. . .therein being another linux coolness. Since X isnt in itself another OS, ie its just a separate program, there is no need for X to set its own machine state up, as windows does. All of linux's VMs are in pmode. Maybe someone can explaine better than I. It just seems to me that Windows is going about the thing in too complex a maner, while Linux is doing it the simple and elegant way. yah. . .and at the same time its like. . .windows is really specific about what it needs to run and linux is sorta abstract about things, or i guess adaptable is a better term. . .its like one of my friends comparison between Direct3D and OpenGL The developers of OpenGL (sgi) were/are 3D pros who probably said, "how can we make a really functional open api that displays fast, stable 3D graphics,will work in a slew of different operating environments, and is also easy to implement?", whereas the designers of DX/D3D probably said "hmm we need to figure out how to be able to do fast 3D gfx in Windows so people will stop writing games in DOS." The result being that sgi turned out a pretty well built, sleek, easy to use, OPEN api, and MS turned out a rather bloated, not that easy to use, platform dependent api that does what it needs to and nothing else. I mean over in the windows world we'er all ooing and ahhing about the fact that DX7 has hardware T/L but OpenGLs had it forever. to go off on a tangent, its like that great scene in firebirds where Nick Cage and Tommy Lee J are in the chopper doing a simulated night time flight and Cage is pretty much chowing. Cage says "im doing it' im doing it!!" and Tommy L replies "yeah but youre doing it ugly." .. . .although i gotta say id love to see Cubase for linux. . . -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Site/List "We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project!" ---| http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie| http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl| ---|
Re: [newbie] Ati Rage 128
SuSe has developed a server for this chipset. you can find it on their site. On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:55:53 -0500, John Aldrich wrote: On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Bassem Houballah wrote: %_Hi, how can i install my ati rage 128 under linux-mandrake 6.1 Thanks for any help Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: According to www.xfree86.org/cardlist.html this card is not yet supported under Linux. OTOH, I seem to recall hearing that it uses the same chipset as the Mach64. You might try using the XF86_Mach64 X server and see if that works. If it doesn't you've really not lost anything. :-) John
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Re: [newbie] Ati Rage 128
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Bassem Houballah wrote: %_Hi, how can i install my ati rage 128 under linux-mandrake 6.1 pop on over to www.suse.com and check out their x server links. As long as your card uses a Rage 128 and not a Rage 128 Pro, they have your solution. -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Site/List "We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project!" ---| http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie| http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl| ---|
Re: [newbie] Ati Rage 128
Bassemthere's a directory on your mdk 6.1 CD called /apps/X-Rage128/, the files and instrustions you need are in there. Alan Bassem Houballah wrote: Hi, how can i install my ati rage 128 under linux-mandrake 6.1 Thanks for any help
[newbie] Getting out of X-Windows and into BASH
How do I get out of X-Windows and into bash... my display is messed up in X-Windows because I have a different monitor where I am right now... I cannot work in X-Windows because I am unable to see half of the screen. Please help. -Chris
Re: [newbie] Any Linux web server to recommend ?
I think that you meant: http://squishdot.org/ or http://www.zope.org/ http://www.zope.org/Resources/Info From what I understand Slashdot hasn't released their source code in quite a while. Squishdot can build a similar looking site, so can Zope. I haven't actually used it but it does look interesting if you are looking to put up a web log. The closest LUG to me uses squishdot to run their web site. (http://www.aclug.org/ACLUG/news/) PBen On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:09:14 -0800, Hidong Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: coin wrote: Dear ALL, Anyone has any idea of any web hosting using linux with apache and mysql Thanks.. Luff, coin http://www.slashdot.org
Re: [newbie] Kernel Confusion
Axalon Bloodstone wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Dennis Robertson wrote:
[..]
My question is how do I revert my system to full -7 kernel operation
without -22 interference? I would not like to do yet another install!
Thanks for any help.
mount /mnt/cdrom # mount the original cdrom
cd /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS # save some typeing..
rpm -Uhv --oldpackage kernel-{headers,source}*.rpm
# Replace the update with the old rpms...
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--Axalon
Axalon,
Worked fine, thanks very much. Thanks, too, Audrey.
Regards.
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Re: [newbie] KDE screen help
funboyI believe you need to increase the screeen resolution to get rid of that particular problem. I think its probably a design flaw in KDE that causes the problem. Alan funboy wrote: First off, I just want to say that i installed my first LINUX system a few days ago, and apart from a few hangups, everything has been running great. I am very happy with the learning curve. Just sitting back and watching the emails has been a great catalyst for my own solutions. But there is one annoying little problem I still have and can't figure out how to fix Can you please tell me how to see the bottom (unviewable) portion of the KDE popup menus? My Utility menu is too large (vertically) to fit on screen, and, while it may be amusing for you all to contemplate, I have been forced to count and memorize how many arrow hits I made from the moment the focus went off-screen in order to access these apps. I'm sure the answer is quite obvious, but I just can't get it. thanks, ~phil
Re: [newbie] Any Linux web server to recommend ?
www.linuxstart.com (free accounts) for the guy who needed web hosting with mysql and *nix
Re: [newbie] Display - Gtk warning
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Steve Philp wrote: Audrey Beck wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Francois Massonneau wrote: Hi, When I want to run a program, this is the warning message I've (and of course, the program doesn't fire up) : Gtk-WARNING ** : cannot open display. I have a Matrox Millenium II, and have no problem when running Xwindow. What do I have to do to make it works ? Thanks. Francois Set $DISPLAY, and try again.. export DISPLAY=:0 I can export this ok and it shows in my env, but it doesn't fix the errors about $DISPLAY that I'm getting. Well, it fixes the part where it tells me $DISPLAY is not setup in env. Can you help here? # netcfg _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 Traceback (innermost last): File "/usr/lib/rhs/netcfg/netcfg.py", line 24, in ? from rhtkinter import * File "/usr/lib/rhs/python/rhtkinter.py", line 52, in ? e = Entry() File "/usr/lib/python1.5/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1288, in __init__ Widget.__init__(self, master, 'entry', cnf, kw) File "/usr/lib/python1.5/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1042, in __init__ BaseWidget._setup(self, master, cnf) File "/usr/lib/python1.5/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1017, in _setup _default_root = Tk() File "/usr/lib/python1.5/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 844, in __init__ self.tk = _tkinter.create(screenName, baseName, className) TclError: couldn't connect to display ":0" It may be a stupid question, but is X running when you're trying to start netcfg? Looks like it's being denied, do 'xhost +local:' before you su. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] Ati Rage 128
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Bassem Houballah wrote: Hi, how can i install my ati rage 128 under linux-mandrake 6.1 Thanks for any help look in the apps/ dir on your cdrom. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] KDE screen help
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, funboy wrote: First off, I just want to say that i installed my first LINUX system a few days ago, and apart from a few hangups, everything has been running great. I am very happy with the learning curve. Just sitting back and watching the emails has been a great catalyst for my own solutions. But there is one annoying little problem I still have and can't figure out how to fix Can you please tell me how to see the bottom (unviewable) portion of the KDE popup menus? My Utility menu is too large (vertically) to fit on screen, and, while it may be amusing for you all to contemplate, I have been forced to count and memorize how many arrow hits I made from the moment the focus went off-screen in order to access these apps. I'm sure the answer is quite obvious, but I just can't get it. thanks, ~phil Use the "utilities" box on the panel, it should roll over into another menu "more" -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] KDE screen help
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: Use the "utilities" box on the panel, it should roll over into another menu "more" -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon Yeah...it _should_ but it _don't_ Guess the guy who did the menu had a 17" Monitor forgot about 15" 14" Notebooks I recall a thread on this a while ago, something about using the menu editor to split the utilities menu in half, but when I tried it I got the Gnome utilities menu, not the KDE. I usually launch apps from konsole or right clicking the screen to get a box, but it would be nice to know how to fix this.. -Warren.
Re: [newbie] KDE screen help
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Warren Doney wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: Use the "utilities" box on the panel, it should roll over into another menu "more" -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon Yeah...it _should_ but it _don't_ I didn't say use K-Utilities, i said the utilities box _on_ the panel, which does wrap as needed. Guess the guy who did the menu had a 17" Monitor forgot about 15" 14" Notebooks I'd recon it's only a 15, the thing is he didn't install everything thus filling it up :) I recall a thread on this a while ago, something about using the menu editor to split the utilities menu in half, but when I tried it I got the Gnome utilities menu, not the KDE. If i remeber right the editor is in utilities i can see how that could be a big problem I usually launch apps from konsole or right clicking the screen to get a box, but it would be nice to know how to fix this.. I prefer alt-f2 when useing kde's wm -Warren. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
[newbie] Update
Hi all, I just ran update and downloaded all the files. But after that, Netscape can no longer be found. Do I need to run an update with rpm -u netscape.or some other command? Right now, I just downloaded all the package on the list but have not ran any command. Thanks James
Re: [newbie] KDE screen help
It's 22 clicks from bottom back to the top, right? All I did was went into Kpackage and unistalled a bunch of the utilities I didn't want (like Tea Cooker). Isn't there a way to change the menu properties so that it can have "more-" at the bottom a menu that's too long to view in one pane? Disk Navigator has it, and so does Netscape, so what's the trick? Somewhere there's a config file w/ a couple of lines that can be changed slightly to enable this feature, right? Oh, yeah, I can switch resolutions now! Things is that I chose 1024x768 and 800x600, but if I run 800x600, it gives me that 'virtual desktop' I don't really care for. Xconfigurator didn't ask me if I wanted thisJust gave it to me. I think I know what it is. Later -Josh funboy wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, but there is a slight problem... I am already _at_ 1024 X 780. sigh Even if I knew _how_ to go finer, I wouldn't do it... on a 15" monitor, it's already small enough (strangely enough my ctrl-alt-numpad+,- thingie doesn't change my display) grrr... there must be some way to access these menus... Any other suggestions? Awash in a sea of unknown shortcuts, ~phil Cyndi Dwayne Hillier wrote: Hi Phil, I did the same thing myself. Only way I could fix it was to change the resolution to at least 1024 x 780. Though that is drastic, but it did the trick. [EMAIL PROTECTED] First off, I just want to say that i installed my first LINUX system a few days ago, and apart from a few hangups, everything has been running great. I am very happy with the learning curve. Just sitting back and watching the emails has been a great catalyst for my own solutions. But there is one annoying little problem I still have and can't figure out how to fix Can you please tell me how to see the bottom (unviewable) portion of the KDE popup menus? My Utility menu is too large (vertically) to fit on screen, and, while it may be amusing for you all to contemplate, I have been forced to count and memorize how many arrow hits I made from the moment the focus went off-screen in order to access these apps. I'm sure the answer is quite obvious, but I just can't get it. thanks, ~phil
