Re: [newbie] No PPP Support in 6.5?
Lane Lester wrote: I just installed Mandrake 6.5, and when I tried to run kppp I was told there was no ppp support in the kernel. I did a custom install, and I certainly told it nothing that would imply that I would =not= be using a dialup connection to the Internet. What should I do differently the next time I install? (arrrgh!) Lane Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA That happened to me when I updated the kernel. Just ignore the message, ppp will still work. If you log in as root first, you won't get the message at all.
Re: [newbie] Load lilo with rescue disk
"Antoniou, Stylianos" wrote: Hi there, I caused a kernel panic, I booted with the rescue disks and I want to run lilo and to change my fstab file. Unfortunately, I cannot run lilo by simply typing /sbin/lilo and vi is not loaded. What am I missing? Stelios Antoniou mount your root drive, then use: chroot /mnt/thisroot ( change the /mnt/whatever to where you mounted the root drive) This will make that drive be your /. Then update your /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo.
Re: [newbie] problem with VGA
George Houdek wrote: Hi all I have problem with Mandrake 6.1 Helios .I have VGA rage fury 128 with 32 MB memory. problem is " canno't open X server and canno't open X win" I make configuration with xf86config . Pleas help :-))) George I think there somewhere on the cd there is a driver for this card. Check contibs or the rpms.
Re: [newbie] I can't log as root!?!
Louis Paradis wrote: Hello, I've installed MDK 7.0 in text mode by FTP. After the installation, I've tried to log in as root, but it didn't work. Then I've tried as user and it worked. But I can't use the startx command to start X windows. Then I've used the passwd command under linux single to change my password, but no result, I can't still log in. Any ideas? Also, I didn't find any monitor compatible with mine when I installed it. Even if I try custom! Thanks LP You can't log in remotely as root. This is a security feature. You'll have to use su - root. In custom, try the SVGA server.
Re: [newbie] X not starting proplery
Rajesh A wrote: I installed Linux-Manrake 7.0 on my Inter PIII 500 machine. Installation, went through, without any problem. During X configuration, my adapters and monitors were detected automatically. I could able to see the screen on Display test, during this process. But, when I reboot, after installation. I am not able to see a proper X login screen. I returned to init 3 and rebooted my machine and tried to run startx, after logging in on char mode. Still it is not working. It tries to give me X screen, but I am not able to see any KDE or GNOME environment over there. My Desktop itself is missing. Can someone, help me on this regard?? regards, Rajesh Do you get any display? Have you tried to rerun XConfigurator? What video card do you have?
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[newbie] Mouse Update
I figured out how to use DrakX in text mode, but my mouse still doesn't work at all in Linux. Paul Eppley http://users.nni.com/Paul_Eppley
RE: [newbie] linux-modem...hell on earth
please tell me how i can get it to work with linux!! -Original Message- From: e [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 11:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] linux-modem...hell on earth - Original Message - From: Eric Chauvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 11:34 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] linux-modem...hell on earth Unfortunately, That is a win modem. Look for a modem that clearly states that the controller is onboard. This will not only allow it to work under Linux, but it will also free resources in windows and allow connection under DOS. Simple rule, If it costs under $50.00 it's most likely a win-modem. no i dont think it is a winmodem its got legacy settings onboard the moedmand ive tried themirq 3 i/o2f8 its a 3com usr paid 120 dollars
RE: [newbie] Modem is up and Running THANK YOU!!
what does dmesg do for you??? im having a hay day with my modem... pulling my hair out.. toie -Original Message- From: maxtorator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Modem is up and Running THANK YOU!! To all who replied: I must send a big THANK YOU to all that recently replied to my modem woes. I had to finally just go over to my friends house and try the tips that you all sent me. I found that "dmesg" is a very useful command. We used that to see if he was getting errors and found that the modem was not set up properly from just seeing that log. It was a very simple "fix" to get it working. But arent all of the problems simple. It seems that we ourselves tend to complicate things more than they really are. Microsoft has, in a sense, damaged all of our minds. But mine is making progress with leaps and bounds since I have seen the light in Linux. Maxtor [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.maxtors.com
Re: [newbie] Samba
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/index.html -WBD - Original Message - From: "sdos" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 10:52 AM Subject: [newbie] Samba Hello, can anyone suggest a good book or web page for ground up samba setup Thanx Ernie
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[newbie] Cannot get LILO to intialize Network Adapters
Please help...I'm about ready to quit Linux and go back to Windows forever. I cannot get either of my PCI network adapters to initialize. Lothar recognizes both of my adapters and lists them in the following order: 3Com Fastnet 3C905B Netgear FA310TX as DEC (Tulip) I assume the 3Com is eth0 and Netgear is eth1. The 3Com is connected to my DSL modem and Netgear to my LAN. I put in all of the IP addresses, submasks, DNS addresses, and gateways exactly as I have them under Windows. I use the 3c509 module for the 3com adapter and tulip for the netgear. I even used the interupts reported under windows...5 for 3com and 11 for netgear. No matter what I do, both network adapters fail to inialize when rebooted by LILO. I've spent many hours trying to figure this out but to no avail. Any help woiuld be greatly appreciated!!! Thank you, Dennis Dennis M. Frisman, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.immunoquery.com
Re: [newbie] Spruce Configuration
I'll add those wishes to the wish list, and thanks for the help on the address book. I'll have to try that this weekend and see if it will work. Lance (PS: from Ga, using Linux...Braves fan? Boy, that would be a good combination!) Lane Lester wrote: Lance wrote: Hey, thanks a lot! Your tip works!! Gosh, I actually helped someone! Almost always I'm on the receiving end. Now, since you've been using Spruce, can you tell me whether you've been able to set up groups in your address book, or queue mail to be sent later (so you can write offline and then log on to send)? I think the answer's no to both for now. The author won't be offended if you add them to the wish list. Or, are these features still in the future? Finally, do you happen to know how to import the addresses and/or mail folders from Netscape? I really like the looks of this program! Yes, I like it, too, and can hardly wait to get it going again. The author told me that there's a .spruce directory in your home dir, and one of the files in there contains the addresses. So if you can figure a way to export the other addresses to a text file, you could do some cutting and pasting. Lane Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
Re: [newbie] error trying to config sndcard w/ mdk 7.0
Lawrence, I'm not real clued in on Lothar Soundconfig, but your error message looks familiar. When I do 'modprobe ppa' as user to load the module for my zip, I get an error that looks similar. when I do 'modprobe ppa' as root, no problems. If you aren't doing your config as root, you might give that a try and see if that gets you past this error. Lance "Lawrence G." wrote: I'm getting the following error message when I use Lothar Soundconfig utility. error in modprobe call! /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/misc/ad1848.o: invalid parameter mpu.io I also notice that during boot up when mandrake is listing the startup items that passed, there is an entry for mpu.io and it falls everytime. I'm using win98/linux mdk 7.0 dual boot on k6-2 350 o/c 400 with a cmi8330 soundcard. The soundcard is listed in the list of card supported I just can't get it to work with mdk, it worked with mdk 6.0 that's the only time it's worked with mdk. Thanks in advance. Lawrence G.
Re: [newbie] Permissions to /mnt
I experienced the same problem after installing Mandrake 7.0.2 and it had nothing to do with the fstab settings. The problem was in the actual permissions of the DOS hda1 mount point in the mount directory. The permissions were set to: owner - root rw group - root r I changed the group to user (there may be a way) and then I had no problem writing to the windows partition. You need to be logged in as root to alter the permission. group - user rw Nev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone else on the list is attempting to dothe same thing as myself. Basically, root has the ability to write files back to my DOS partitions, whereas 'steve', my normal user does not. This is very incovenient as it means I have to run my distributed.net client under root to allow it to write back to the buff-out file (located in /mnt/D/Utilities/distributed.net/). I'd like to do two things: Give 'steve' permission to write to this drectory. My attempts at chmod'ing permisions to rwxrwxrwx as root have failed - no change in permissions. Run dnetc (the distributed.net client) from the user 'steve' and have it run with root permisssions. I've chown'd it to root, I've performed a 'chmod +s dnetc' and I've changed the owner of the directory it live in to root. No joy - it still runs with 'steve' permissions. The only way I can get it to run with root's permissions is to su to root and then fire it up. I'm missing something obvious out, and I can't for the life of me, see it! Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst
[newbie] /etc/modules.conf for SB Live!
Hi, What I need are the contents of the /etc/modules.conf for SB Live! I think I have the right settings now but I would like to check them with someones working version. Unfortunatly, I am at work now so I haven't got the settings with me - lack of foresight!!! Also, when I do a 'modprobe module_path/module_name' it can not find the dependency file. The module.dep file exists in /lib/modules, how do I get modprobe to see it. So to recap, I have the files : /etc/modules.conf - need to check the settings module.dep in /lib/modules - need to get modprobe to see this Thank you, Michael __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] X Desktop, not starting proplerly
At 23:13 22.02.00 , you wrote: But, when I reboot, after installation. I am not able to see a proper X login screen. I returned to init 3 and rebooted my machine and tried to run startx, after logging in on char mode. Still it is not working. It tries to give me X screen, but I am not able to see any KDE or GNOME environment over there. My Desktop itself is missing. Same happened to meI just reinstallet all and then it worked fine :) John-H Naess [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.c2i.net/tulkas/ Nr en menneskehjerne blir utvidet med en ny tanke, skrumper den aldri mer inn til sin opprinnelige strrelse Oliver Wendell Holmes
Re: [newbie] Chopped X
If you use KDE, you have Kedit. Standard editors include Emacs and vi (as you say), but there's also vim and jed to try out. Quick blast through vi commands: Quit :q! Save :w Insert mode:just hit 'i' Delete line:d Delete the next 10 lines: 10d BTW, the colon introduces a commd. You have to type it. For example, you've finished inserting some text. Hit ESC to go back into command mode and then hit colong followed by w. The file will be saved. As for help, there's always the man pages.] vi is really good, once you know how to use it! It's like a chicken and egg thing. Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst Lane Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 22/02/2000 16:31:23 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ken Schrock [EMAIL PROTECTED], newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM) Subject: [newbie] Chopped X I just installed Mandrake 6.5 on a second machine (looking forward to seeing how it does on a Netware LAN), but the X display is chopped up into somewhat large blocks. I found my monitor in the displayed list. I told it my card has 2 meg RAM (I'm pretty sure that's right), and I told it to display at 800x600 and 16 bits, since that's what I use in Win 98. Do you have suggestion? Should I change something in XF86Config? BTW, I was disappointed not to find joe, the only console editor I know how to use. What do you suggest for QD editing of config files? If you say something like vi, please tell me how to display the Help (it does have Help, doesn't it?) or how to save and exit. Lane Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
RE: [newbie] updating mdk 7 - blue sc
Sounds like a specific problem in upgrading from 6.0 to 7.0, especially seeing as the hang always occurs at the same place in the install. As for not losing any data. if you can boot the system as it is, you can always move any of your files over to one of the other partitions, or even back over onto a Windows partition if you still have any. This is one of the reasons why I have a seperate partition for /home. I can re-install the OS as often as I like and it's fairly trivial to reconfigure stuff. I'm afraid that a full re-install will tash anything you have under your / partition. Anyone else in here performed an upgrade to 7.0 rather than a full install. Denis (or anyone from Mandrake) - have you had any reports of the upgrade process hanging like this - I would have thought tha the installation merely copies files over the top of existing stuff, or does it do hardware detection on an upgrade as it does on a full install? I can't see why installing a particular library would cause this kind of problem though - If you can boot the system, bring it up in single user mode (rather than entering linux or whatever at the LILO BOOT: prompt, enter 'linux 1' When you get to the console prompt, try running fsck on all of your partitions to make sure they are all free from errors. You could also try uninstalling the GNU C libraries with rpm and then re-attempting the installation I suspect you have something screwed on your drive - bad blocks. Are you overclocking your machine? Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst BARDIAUX Laurent SICoR [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 22/02/2000 17:00:19 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] (IPM Return requested) (Receipt notification requested) cc:(bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM) Subject: RE: [newbie] updating mdk 7 - blue sc When the system hand, there is no more activity (cannot switch to another console or ctrl-alt-sup to shutdown). It append always at the same position. For the last question, how can i do if i dont want to lose data. (i have 2Go for /, /usr and /usr/local on distinct partition) ps : sorry for my bad english. -Message d'origine- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Date: mardi 22 février 2000 17:50 À: newbie Objet: Re: [newbie] updating mdk 7 - blue sc Any error messages or just a straight "nothing is happening - no activity" type of hang? Always at the same position in the install? Is it possible to install 7.0 directly over 6, rather than try to update the installation? Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst BARDIAUX Laurent SICoR [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 22/02/2000 14:49:32 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] (IPM Return requested) (Receipt notification requested) cc:(bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM) Subject: [newbie] updating mdk 7 - blue screen of death When updating my old 6.0 to 7.0, the system hang when trying to install gnu C library. Any idea ?
Re: [newbie] I can't log as root!?!
At the boot promp,when appears lilo type "linux 1" and press enter. After that you will have root prompt and you will be able to change root password or any other password. --- AndreiCojocaru[EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ITC NetworkCommunications Dept --- On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, you wrote: Hello, I've installed MDK 7.0 in text mode by FTP. After the installation, I've tried to log in as root, but it didn't work. Then I've tried as user and it worked. But I can't use the startx command to start X windows. Then I've used the passwd command under linux single to change my password, but no result, I can't still log in. Any ideas? Also, I didn't find any monitor compatible with mine when I installed it. Even if I try custom! Thanks LP
Re: [newbie] suggestion
Ummm - you subscribed to this list didn't you? You want to learn how to use and administer your Linux box don't you? Well, so did everony else in here. The questions you see are problems being encountered by all the people in here, and occasinally, you get a success story and a solution for that particular problem. We aren't asking you and questions but if you see anything you can answer, feel free to reply and tell us all how you solved it! If the amount of mail is overwhelming you, unsubscribe. Why DID you subscribe to this list? Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 22/02/2000 18:17:02 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM) Subject: Re: [newbie] suggestion Newbie, I feel like I'm being spammed. Every time I sign on I have tons of Linux messages that ask me questions I don't understand. I am not a Linux expert, so I wish they would knock it off. robseroquel
[newbie] HP Printer...
Hi.. I have a hp dj610c printer which I have setup in linux...The printer will print two pages and then stops with the error button flashing..I have read that on a slow port the print queue will time out..Is there any way of preventing this if this is the cause of the problemIf this is not the cause any ideas on the problem welcome Regards Ted Ted Wager...Mandrake Linux g3tpi.ampr.org 44.131.147.8
Re: [newbie] Samba
The samba HOWTO should be located in your /usr/doc/HOWTO directory. It's called SMB-HOWTO. Try this find / -name SMB-HOWTO It'll tell you were it's located. Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst "sdos" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 22/02/2000 21:52:00 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM) Subject: [newbie] Samba Hello, can anyone suggest a good book or web page for ground up samba setup Thanx Ernie
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Re: [newbie] How do I upgrade the kernel?
I've not had a chance to mess about with Linux since Sunday - friend brought a sick laptop over last night and it took the best part of 3 hours to get it singing again... :( Fear not - as soon as I've got a full walkthrough for setting up the fat partitions, I'll write it up and post it on here and up on the web somewhere. You'll probably be better off with getting the source for the kernel - at least then you can tune it to your machine - switch SMP on, turn Appletalk support off, etc. etc. Grab the binaries and I'll talk you through a full compile and install Which version of the kernel did you get by the way Be warned that the 2.3.* binaries are still in development and may be unstable - when you're learning you might find youself spending 3 days trying to fix a config problem only to find the kernel is broken and you'll NEVER get it to work without getting you compiler out! :) Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst Adam Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 22/02/2000 23:45:24 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM) Subject: Re: [newbie] How do I upgrade the kernel? On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, you wrote: Adam, Did you download the source code for the latest kernel or the compiled kernel itself? I downloaded the binaries in rpm format from the mandrake 6.1 upgrade directory. BTW, have you figured out how to enable r/w access to FAT partitions yet? Nothing I've done has worked for me. You'd think that this wouldn't be so difficult, eh? :) Adam
Re: [newbie] Chopped X
:-BTW, I was disappointed not to find joe, the only console editor I :-know how to use. What do you suggest for QD editing of config files? :-If you say something like vi, please tell me how to display the Help :-(it does have Help, doesn't it?) or how to save and exit. rpm -ih joe* will solve this problem. By the way, you will usually find "pico" installed too. It is rather dumb, but easy to use and it comes with pine... I can also suggest using "mc" - it comes with an simple-to-use editor, too. cu Denis
Re: [newbie] I can't log as root!?!
check the file securitty I think it is in /etc there should be listed... tty1 tty2 tty3 tty4 tty5 tty6 tty7 I used to have the same problem, I found out that I could log in as a root under X, but adding that data to the securutty file should fix your problem hen logging in at the console
RE: [newbie] Modem is up and Running THANK YOU!!
It displays al of the start-up messages which you see when Linux fires up. Try: dmesg ~/stuff Not have a look at ~/stuff. You'll see exactly what happens at start-up time. Another file to browse on a regular basis is /var/log/messages Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst "toie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 23/02/2000 08:42:58 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM) Subject: RE: [newbie] Modem is up and Running THANK YOU!! what does dmesg do for you??? im having a hay day with my modem... pulling my hair out.. toie -Original Message- From: maxtorator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Modem is up and Running THANK YOU!! To all who replied: I must send a big THANK YOU to all that recently replied to my modem woes. I had to finally just go over to my friends house and try the tips that you all sent me. I found that "dmesg" is a very useful command. We used that to see if he was getting errors and found that the modem was not set up properly from just seeing that log. It was a very simple "fix" to get it working. But arent all of the problems simple. It seems that we ourselves tend to complicate things more than they really are. Microsoft has, in a sense, damaged all of our minds. But mine is making progress with leaps and bounds since I have seen the light in Linux. Maxtor [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.maxtors.com
RE: [newbie] Login Woes. :(
I realise that Linux is case sensitive and I haven't forgot the password or typed it in wrong. I don't even get that far. The login screen let's me type usernames. But when I type in root it doesn't accept it. When I type in anything it doesn't accept it. :( Are these the only partitions you have to create for a successful install or do I need more: / Swap Disk
[newbie] screenflash
Hello, have just installed Mandrake 6.1, and need help with a flashing screen. The X program is automatic, but there is only text on screen immediately following the login page with Penguin graphic. The page continually flashes, seems the monitor/video settings are wrong, so need to reconfigure. This is not possible as the screen is not stable, continually going on and off, so need to make the screen stable again to reconfigure. Is there any solution that does not involve reinstall? Is there any solution? HELP!
Re: [newbie] Login Woes. :(
Try typing "su". that should log you in as root. Thats one thing. The other is If its not going automatically through to the x window login screen then perhaps something is wrong with your xconfig and/or you need to set the runtype default to 5. I have 5 as default and go in with 1 if I need to edit a configuration in the shell to fix any setup problems. On boot up, rather than letting it auto boot into linux, just type "linux 1" to get to that prompt , type "su" to get in as root operator, then edit any settings like xconfig and reboot. (Linux 5 I think is the standard default.) regards Gina - Original Message - From: "Dean Bilotti" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 February 2000 12:07: am Subject: RE: [newbie] Login Woes. :( I realise that Linux is case sensitive and I haven't forgot the password or typed it in wrong. I don't even get that far. The login screen let's me type usernames. But when I type in root it doesn't accept it. When I type in anything it doesn't accept it. :( Are these the only partitions you have to create for a successful install or do I need more: / Swap Disk
[newbie] Can Separate Partitions Interfere?
That may not be the best way to phrase the Subject, but my problems with ppp with both Debian and Mandrake suggest this possibility to me. On my system I have three Linux installations: Corel, Debian, and Mandrake. The latter two will not connect me to the Internet, and the basic complaint is that ppp support is not included in the kernel. I did not say "no" to anything that looked like it might something to do with this, and in fact, with my latest Mandrake install, I took the Install Everything option. So is it possible that these Linuxes are interfering with each other in some way? The boot process certainly looks like the three are independent, and the X interface is unique to each. However, I do see in the Mandrake boot (dmesg stuff) repeated errors that say /boot/System.map has incorrect kernel version." -- Lane Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA Getting where I want to be with Linux...
[newbie] Wine
Hello, Can someone explain what should be in /etc/wine.conf to configure wine correctly? (My /etc/wine.conf is empty). Or, and that might be more easy, could someone give an example of a correctly /etc/wine.conf ?? Thanks in advance, BillyNoel __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] ATTN: CHRIS STORY - How do I get off this damn list???
When you subscribed you received an email which tells you exaclty how to get off the list. The instructions have also ben posted onto this list several times every days for the last week or so. You obviously don't bother to read. Now, how did you get onto this list? Via a web page perhaps. Visit the same web-page and you can unsubcribe. An idiot could do it. Even you. If you are incapable of using a web browser then you can do the following: To unsubscribe send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the subject : unsubscribe newbie. or go to the web page and unsubscribe via the web interface. Show respect to the other people in here - do a little background research and you'll often find the answers yourself. A simple 'Find' through your email message base for the word "unsubscribe" would pull out the instructions above several times. You needn't have bothered us in here with your whining. Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst "Chris Story" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 23/02/2000 11:52:42 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM) Subject: [newbie] How do I get off this damn list???
Re: [newbie] How do I get off this damn list???
Pretty much the same way you got on it. You should have received a message almost exactly like the following when you joined this list: Welcome to the Cooker List. You just have been subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3 To unsubscribe send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the subject : unsubscribe newbie. or go to the web page and unsubscribe via the web interface. -- Mandrake Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To make your life less complicated, I suggest that you keep the confirmation emails you receive when you join any list. Every list I have ever subscribed to has sent UNSUBSCRIBE instructions with its confirmation. This list is no different. Good luck, Bryan "Chris Story" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/23/2000 06:52:42 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Bryan Moorehead/Link/Allied Holdings) Subject: [newbie] How do I get off this damn list???
[newbie] Kmail Kmail Kmail Kmail
-- Joerg Reinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, Kmail is sending mail now (Port 25 made it possible), it get's mail as well, but IT DON'T STOPS getting mail. I don't mean that there is to much, but after downloading the last message, the download window dont closes and the whole Kmail reacts to nothing. I stopped it via Taskmanager, but when I tryed to log out afterwards, my system hung up... but why? What have I done wrong? Why allways me? I guess I'm the only one, working with Linux, wich exit's Linux by power switch each third time, cause it hung up. Extremely stressy, cause my harddrive is gigantic and the Test takes about 10min's. Is it possible that something basicly in my System is completely mixed up, in a way that Internetconnection leads to a breakdown? Or is it just a wrong setted up Kmail, wich smashes my System each time?
Re: [newbie] Installing Linux under Windows 3.1
Try an earlier version of Mandrake, such as 6.1, that is what I use in my 486 dx 2 66 MHz. I think 7.0 is compiled for pentium procesors. 73, Ramiro. Alex V Flinsch wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, you wrote: I have an old machine and I am trying to install Mandrake 7 on it. But when the installation starts I get a error saying "No coprocessor found and no math emulation present. Giving up". I have an Intel 486 SX. You need a Pentium for Mandrake. Try some other distro, RedHat works fairly well on a 486, so does TurboLinux. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] Cirrus Logic 5428 VLB
Thanks for reply When X server try to start, it says something like " linnear addressing required for 16 bit ", I do not remember exactly. I have been reading cirrus logic docs and it seems that it is very difficult ( or impossible?) getting working this video card in 16 bit color depth. Any help will be welcome. Ramiro. Audrey Beck wrote: "Ramiro Aceves, EA1ABZ" wrote: Hello Linux-fans: I can not set my GL5428 Vesa Local Bus video card with more than 256 colors in X-window (16 bit color). Can you help me please? Thanks in advance. Ramiro. What happens, or doesn't happen when you try to set it to a higher number of colors?
[newbie] netiquete
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Joerg Reinhardt wrote: ... Hi, everybody I do not know what was it that actually upset Joerg (sorry, I cannot follow ALL the conversation), but I think I am right when I say that we prefere to be HELPFUL than RUDE here. .-) Denis +++ Hi, Joerg, Some questions on posted here may sound stupid, but they are posted because the poster does not know the answer. The worse problem is usually that those who have a problem sometimes have difficulties explaining what the problem is in such terms that those who know the answer actually understand the question :-) Anyway, the main thing is: This is a (mandrake-linux) community run mailing-list, and linux (in particular:mandrake) comunity is famous for beeing friendly, helpfull AND straightforward. Problem with efficience and straighforwardnes is that it sometimes sounds quite rude. For instance, your present letter has been written with some funny e-mail agent that does not produce normal ASCII e-mails per default, and I am quite sure some of the people feel tempted to yell: "You idiot, check "send ASCII only so we can quote your message!!!" Actually, Gael does the same thing on our internal mailing-lists, and he actually got such a response from one of the developers this morning :-)). ++ Of coarse, one gets easily annoyed when someone does the same "mistake" over-and-over again, or when all of the sudden 20 new users yell the same thing day-after-day withouth reading the documentation or browsing the mailing lists first... However, even if someone does yell at you here, it is usually just showing that he wants to have your full attention (yes, it is a sign of a bad temper, too :-), rather than anything else, so try to ignore the form and understand. And, do not forget: we are generally a bunch of well-intended and friendly people here, and I hope you will notice this by yourself when you post your next question. cu Denis
[newbie] Re: Can Separate Partitions Interfere?
On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 07:38:23AM -0800, Lane Lester wrote: That may not be the best way to phrase the Subject, but my problems with ppp with both Debian and Mandrake suggest this possibility to me. On my system I have three Linux installations: Corel, Debian, and Mandrake. The latter two will not connect me to the Internet, and the basic complaint is that ppp support is not included in the kernel. I did not say "no" to anything that looked like it might something to do with this, and in fact, with my latest Mandrake install, I took the Install Everything option. So is it possible that these Linuxes are interfering with each other in some way? The boot process certainly looks like the three are independent, and the X interface is unique to each. However, I do see in the Mandrake boot (dmesg stuff) repeated errors that say /boot/System.map has incorrect kernel version." if you didn't do the partitioning/lilo right then that is most certainly possible, you should have at a minimum 3 partitions, each of which is a root file system for each of the 3 dists: /etc/lilo.conf (one of them anyway) should be like this: boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal compact prompt timeout=30 default=linux image=/vmlinuz label=debian alias=linux read-only root=/dev/hda1 ## this is your debian installation, you would need to have ## booted debian for this config file to work. image=/mandrake/boot/vmlinuz label=mandrake read-only root=/dev/hda2 ## this is for mandrake, you must have /dev/hda2 mounted on ## /mandrake in debian image=/coral/boot/vmlinuz label=coral read-only root=/dev/hda3 ## see mandrake. see what i am doing? when you run lilo the two inactive systems' partitions must be mounted on /coral and /mandrake (/debian /mandrake if you were booted into coral) this is so lilo can find the 3 different kernels and map them. when you boot you get a boot: prompt where you can type mandrake to boot mandrake and debian to boot debian and so on. this makes sure each has its own kernel booted and that it uses the right root filesystem. sounds to me like you only have lilo pointed at the same kernel for all 3 but are giving that kernel a different root filesystem for each of your systems. (ie do you have a lilo conf like above but do all 3 have the image=/boot/vmlinuz?) i hope i made this clear... -- Ethan Benson
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[newbie] Linux won't recognize my 96 Mb of RAM...
Hello fellow Linux buddies, Everything went great with the install..however, it only recognizes that I have 64 Mb of RAM, when indeed, I really have 96 Mb of RAM. How do I get Linux to recognize the other 32Mb? Your response is greatly appreciated..Thanks. Ryan.
Re: [newbie] screenflash
Reboot into single user mode and use Xconfigurator to set up your X settings. You can get into single user mode by starting up with 'linux 1' at the LILO BOOT: prompt. The other option is 'linux 3' which will not attempt to start X up. Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst "C. Sweeney" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 23/02/2000 12:20:28 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM) Subject: [newbie] screenflash Hello, have just installed Mandrake 6.1, and need help with a flashing screen. The X program is automatic, but there is only text on screen immediately following the login page with Penguin graphic. The page continually flashes, seems the monitor/video settings are wrong, so need to reconfigure. This is not possible as the screen is not stable, continually going on and off, so need to make the screen stable again to reconfigure. Is there any solution that does not involve reinstall? Is there any solution? HELP! Hello, have just installed Mandrake 6.1, and need help with a flashing screen. The X program is automatic, but there is only text on screen immediately following the login page with Penguin graphic. The page continually flashes, seems the monitor/video settings are wrong, so need to reconfigure. This is not possible as the screen is not stable, continually going on and off, so need to make the screen stable again to reconfigure. Is there any solution that does not involve reinstall? Is there any solution? HELP!
Re: [[newbie] getting crazy with Kmail]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Reinhardt) wrote: Pleas, help me someone with Kmail, i realy like it, cause Editor and Reader are much better than the ones of Netscape Navigator, but I'm getting crazy with the send-mail-funktion! I don't know wheter I sended something or not, cause it says in a message box:"messages correctly sent", but it dont moves them to the sent-folder, so each time I'm using "send waiting messages" I either send all messages I've ever written (as you might allready discovered by looking in your in-mail-folder. sorry for that), or I don't send any. I'm not shure about that, cause sending, is going much to fast for my expection and I sendet a few messages to my other e-mail account, wich didn't arrive. At least some of the messages I sendet with Kmail, are in the Newbie list, but none of them testmessages I sent to myself arrived. WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? Any hint? Is it possible, that the Kmail-agent is slower then the Netscape one, so that I just have to wait longer? Is there maybe a compatibilyti-problem between Kmail and some Providers? === Suggestion:Why not use smtp instead of sendmail. You can do this isn setup. Check the smtp radi button instead of sendmail, and put in the approrpriate info for you isp (usually smtp.isp.de in your case). HTH, Mike ## Michael Scottaline Linux 2.2.13 ## Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] suggestion
On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 06:12:26AM -0600, Jeanette Russo wrote: I think we are going a bit far here if a quick thank you is not acceptable. People need to start enjoying yourself a little. Live a little and don't sweat the small stuff :-) Jeanette At 03:55 AM 2/23/2000 +0100, Rial Juan wrote: And how about people stop saying things like "Thank you, I followed your advice and it worked" [ ... SNIP ... ] I have to strongly disagree with Rial Juan. Saying "Thank you, I followed your advice and it worked" is not only polite, but it is also *very* usefull for the people on this list. Many people on this list are only reading it, because they are too shy or whatever. And with a "Thank you, I followed your advice and it worked" they now know how to solve a problem they might have. It is also usefull for the person who actually gave the advice. He knows if it works or not on a maybe different configuration. Rial Juan, maybe this list is not suited for you. But please don't change its rules. Feedback is always needed. Regards, DindinX -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Lothar..
Hey everyone, I haven't been able to get my NE2000 compatible network card to work in Lothar yet. I can't run the configuration for it. I must be doing something totally wrong, so please help me! ;) -- -Kyle "Orange" Spahn Freespace 2 Lead Lead Reviewer Descent Chronicles - http://descent.gamestats.com/ Newsie Reviewer GameLordz Network - http://www.gamelordz.net News Hound Summoner Homeland - http://www.summonerhl.com/
Re: [newbie] Can Separate Partitions Interfere?
Do you mount any of the other partitions under any of the installations. For example, do you mount your debian / when you fire up Mandrake? If so, then this would indeed cause you no end of grief. What could be happening is that your System.map compiled for debian kernel (say 2.2.6) is being used with your mandrake kernel (which might be 2.2.13). The System.map and the kernel versions have to match. Ensure that NO OTHER partitions containing other installations are visible to any other installations. It's like trying to run Windows with two different registries at the same time! All sorts of things are going to conflict! Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst Lane Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 23/02/2000 15:38:23 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian Users [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM) Subject: [newbie] Can Separate Partitions Interfere? That may not be the best way to phrase the Subject, but my problems with ppp with both Debian and Mandrake suggest this possibility to me. On my system I have three Linux installations: Corel, Debian, and Mandrake. The latter two will not connect me to the Internet, and the basic complaint is that ppp support is not included in the kernel. I did not say "no" to anything that looked like it might something to do with this, and in fact, with my latest Mandrake install, I took the Install Everything option. So is it possible that these Linuxes are interfering with each other in some way? The boot process certainly looks like the three are independent, and the X interface is unique to each. However, I do see in the Mandrake boot (dmesg stuff) repeated errors that say /boot/System.map has incorrect kernel version." -- Lane Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA Getting where I want to be with Linux...
Re: [newbie] Hi, everyone
Steve - try site http://www.desktop-solutions.net in the Linux section there is so much info that it would take forever to describe! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Hi, everyone I don't know whether an FAQ exists already? I'm quite prepared to start making one if no-one else wants to. I don't know if there's really a need for one, as virtually all of the answers can be found in HOW-TO's (although possible not that easy to locate which one exactly!) Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst Oliver Immich [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 18/02/2000 21:50:44 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM) Subject: Re: [newbie] Hi, everyone Hello, I am new to the list as a subscriber and very impressed by the traffic here. Therefor I wonder whether the postings could be reduced to really new questions (a number of them are asked again and again) by giving everybody the opportunity to query the archives for keywords, since FreeBSD.org is running such a thing and it helped me a lot! As a nice side-effect, the time between encountering a prob and gaining knowledge to solve it is reduced very much. Cheers, Oliver Am Fre, 18 Feb 2000 schrieben Sie: HI! I am a new "Mandrake" member, and for the moment I am trying to make sure everyone gets a semi-decent answers to his questions. That is, I answer the question if noone else does. .-) Of coarse, I am extremly lazy person, and prefere it if you do it ;- Nay. But it is a HUGE amount of e-mails and I cannot answer them all. However, If anyone notices that he (or someone else) did not get an answer in 2-3 days, and I have been posting other e-mails in this time, it probably means that I have overloked it, so please remind me. cu later Denis - Mag^H^H^HDr. Denis Havlik http://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Austria(@ @) tel: (++431) 4277/51179 ---oOO--(_)--OOo- February 17-th 2000: The Linux Demo Y2k Day!!! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.steadyproc.myokay.net
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.0 Sound Problem
Try this, select whatever you want in the dropdown box. Then close lothar. As "root" edit /etc/conf.modules and look for the line with the incorrect io port and change it to the correct port number. Then not the line that says "alias sound" the last thing on that line is the module name. Save conf.modules and do "modprobe (the name of the sound module)" replace (the name of the sound module) with the actual name of the module from conf.modules. Or just reboot. Hope this works for you. -- Original Message -- From: "jack hess" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:55:32 MST I just installed Mandrake 7.0 on my IBM Thinkpad 600E. I ran Lothar to configure my sound chipset. Lothar "sensed" the incorrect chipset, and when I selected the correct one, Crystal CS4232, I was given via a drop down window the IO PORT addresses 230 through 280. This chipset uses 0x530 port address. Lothar will not allow me to edit in the correct address. Can anyone tell me how to get around this issue? Thanks, Jack __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] ABIT Linux distro
I am downloading and burning a CD today and will try it. I hope it does what it promises. You can check it out at www.gentus.com. -- Original Message -- From: Jaguar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 22 Feb 00 19:35:27 EST I saw a blurb in SlashDOT's site about a distro optimised for ABIT mobo's. Has anyone tried it yet? Sorta off topic...:) Jaguar Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
[newbie] mouse shape...
Hi all, First, Sorry my English is bad. There is a problem about mouse in the XWindow. Mouse's shape likes this: ( such as barcod lines.. ) || | || | || || | || | || || | || | || But I can use it in Xwindow. I tried to correct using mouseconfig prg. and Xconfigurator prg. but I couldn't. I use KDE and have Mandrake 6.0.My kernel is 2.2.19- 19mdk. Thanks in advice.. Ilker
Re: [newbie] re ussucribe me please!
WTF does ussucribe mean? Unsubscribe? OH! You want us to all get together, come around to your house, type an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe newbie" and post it for you When you joined the list you got an email pretty much asying the following: To unsubscribe send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the subject : unsubscribe newbie. or go to the web page and unsubscribe via the web interface. Now, why can't you follow this insruction yourself. Also, why have /you/ type "re" in the subject! Congratulations - todays prize for worst formed "unsubcribe" request! Begone. Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst Nicholas Simoglou [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 23/02/2000 13:14:11 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM) Subject: [newbie] re ussucribe me please! __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
[newbie] ISO Image
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[newbie] netiquete
-- Joerg Reinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, it was not me, shelting anyone to ask silly question, I'm the one who ask's silly questions! It was Rial Juan shelting in a quit unfriendly way about "idiots, fools", and something about "donkeys on LSD" that I didn't get right. Well I havent got any problems with straight forwardness, but why complaining and moaning in a long letter about people who didn't understand how to unsubscribe? Why don't tell them directly in a friendly, straightforward way to their e-mail adress, how to do? Rial could make a standard "unsubscribe explanation form" and really help those people he called "idiots", by sending it to all of them, instead of complain about them, it would take him a min. each day, the mail he wrote to complain, took him much longer I guess. And I allready mailed several times that I have big problem with my e-mail program setup (well it's solved now), so why telling me I'm an idiot sending ASCII and html, instead of explaining me how to stop with it? But lets end this unpleasant discussion now, I'll just get more tolerant against people calling me (and others, cause it was not especialy me he meant) an idiot. Joerg
Re: [newbie] Linux won't recognize my 96 Mb of RAM...
Two options When you boot linux, do so like this: LILO BOOT: linux mem=96M or edit your /etc/lilo.conf flie to include a line which says: append="mem=96M" and re-run /sbin/lilo. You will have to be loggedin as root to do this. (We really do need an FAQ in here don't we!) Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst Ryan Drafall [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 23/02/2000 13:17:37 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Newbie@Linux-Mandrake" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM) Subject: [newbie] Linux won't recognize my 96 Mb of RAM... Hello fellow Linux buddies, Everything went great with the install..however, it only recognizes that I have 64 Mb of RAM, when indeed, I really have 96 Mb of RAM. How do I get Linux to recognize the other 32Mb? Your response is greatly appreciated..Thanks. Ryan.
Re: [newbie] Lothar..
Same here, I just got the 7.0-2 CD and it still can't recognize my NE2000 compatible NIC. :3)~~ Kyle \"Orange\" Spahn wrote: Hey everyone, I haven't been able to get my NE2000 compatible network card to work in Lothar yet. I can't run the configuration for it. I must be doing something totally wrong, so please help me! ;)
[newbie] Re: Can Separate Partitions Interfere?
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Lane Lester wrote: lleste So is it possible that these Linuxes are interfering with each other in lleste some way? The boot process certainly looks like the three are lleste independent, and the X interface is unique to each. However, I do see lleste in the Mandrake boot (dmesg stuff) repeated errors that say lleste /boot/System.map has incorrect kernel version." i ran corel and mandrake and beos at the same time for a while. i used mandrake's /boot to boot it all. what i had to do to get it workin was copy the kernel from corel to mandrake's /boot and edit lilo.conf to point to that kernel when loading corel. try that, and the same for any other distributions you have. nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 8:03am up 187 days, 20:23, 1 user, load average: 1.12, 1.14, 1.20
[newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0
Hi, Every time I want to install mandrake 7.0 (floppy or cdrom boot), it always stop at installation program, with the message "Failed to mount ramdisk. This shouldn't be happened, Rebooting..." Anybody know or have experience this problem. I am getting frustrated to install mandrake, even after I download the update for cdrom.img and hd.img. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks... Cheers,
Re: [newbie] suggestion
:- :-And how about people stop saying things like "Thank you, I followed your :-advice :-and it worked" or "Mandrake is a great distro" or other ridiculus stuff like :-that on the list? If someone helped you out, you can thank him in a private :-mail. If you think mandrake is a great distro, nice. So do most people on :-this Hi Thanking for someones help is good. Besides, it helps everyone who happens to get the same problem later, and searches trough the archive. "Thx, it worked" message (maybe even a bit more details) on the end of a problem-solving procedure is a Very Good Sign (tm). cu Denis
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[newbie] web-radio via Kfm
-- Joerg Reinhardt Döllbachstraße 15 34127 Kassel Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it possible to liten to web-radio streams via Kfm? What programs do I need and where to download them? If there is no possibility to do it with Kfm, what do I have to do to do it with Netscape Navigator?
[newbie] Response to subscribe/unsubscribe requests.
Whilst I can appreciate that these messages can annoy some people why respond to them in group mail. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that you are guilty of increasing the group mail yourselves. The expression "The pot calling the kettle black" springs to mind. If some of you must lecture people trying to unsubscribe do it to the person's email address and NOT in group mail. Thank you. -- Regards John the Nadger http://mklinux.cjb.net http://www.nadger.uklinux.net
Re: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0
I don't have a solution, however I just wanted to say that I had the same error when trying to boot of the CDROM. However when I made boot disks and used them it worked fine. This is with ISO image 7.0. Aaron - Original Message - From: Edgar Manik To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 10:37 AM Subject: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0 Hi, Every time I want to install mandrake 7.0 (floppy or cdrom boot), it always stop at installation program, with the message "Failed to mount ramdisk. This shouldn't be happened, Rebooting..." Anybody know or have experience this problem. I am getting frustrated to install mandrake, even after I download the update for cdrom.img and hd.img. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks... Cheers,
Re: [[newbie] Linux wont recognize my 96 Mb of RAM...]
Ryan Drafall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello fellow Linux buddies, Everything went great with the install..however, it only recognizes that I have 64 Mb of RAM, when indeed, I really have 96 Mb of RAM. How do I get Linux to recognize the other 32Mb? Your response is greatly appreciated..Thanks. Ryan. == Try this: as root, edit /etc/lilo.conf by adding the line: append="mem=96MB" use the quotation marks Then run /sbin/lilo When you reboot, the system *should* recognize all 96megs. HTH, Mike ## Michael Scottaline Linux 2.2.13 ## Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
[newbie] Information of unsubscribing to the list
Hi ... I have been following the thread of mails on this list about people not knowing how to unsubscribe from this list. This is what I have to say and my suggestion to solve this problem. A lot of people join this list because they are newbies ... and I expect a great deal of them rely on a ppp connection via whatever means (the point I am trying to make is it may be slow or expensive) ... this list is extremely high volume in my opinion ... this is actually a good sign but not everybody is expecting the sudden fllod of mails coming in to his mailbox ... although I agree with some comments made ont his list that people should keep the subscription mail and read the instructions on it to unsubscribe I also think that we can be more accomodating to newbies having absolutely no idea what they are doing ... so might I suggest that someone (I am willing to do it) sends a short mail to the list every now and then ... (I was thinking one or two days) ... the subject line of this instruction can be made clear to everyone already on this list so that they can procmail or filter it off ... this is just a suggestion .. so try to be calm when you reply with your comments ... Sample mail Subject: Instructions To Unsubscribe From Mandrake Mailing List Please follow the accompanying instructions to unsubscribe from the Mandrake Mailing List. To unsubscribe send a mail to sympa\@linux-mandrake.com and put in the subject : unsubscribe newbie. or go to the web page and unsubscribe via the web interface. http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3 End Sample Mail == E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ No.: 38756924 Public GPG Key : http://germany.keyserver.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xA5D29407 I'm not denyin' the women are foolish: God Almighty made 'em to match the men. -- George Eliot ===
[newbie] MIDI is not working
-- --- Joerg Reinhardt --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Hi there, I have a problem with my Media-Vision-Jazz16-Soundboard. Yes, I allready tryed soundconfig and it played the Testsample as well, as the Testmidi ,to get it there, I had it several times out of the maschine and plugged into other slots, then change all IRQ's and DMA's. About the third lot that I tryed, I got it working(I,m wondering about that, cause the manual says ,all adresses, IRQ's and DMA's should be OK for the Board and you can change them via software (not the adress, of course)). I was quit lucky when soundconfig worked like it should. My audio-CD's and MP3's are running fine, all video formats (like avi) wich have sound, are "sounding" well. But here's the problem: no MIDI! Non Systemnoises (I suppose now... there should be some, I'm new in Linux and didn't wonder about it made not a beep at all, at first place. Now it occured to me that something is wrong). The whole problem showed to me the time I downloader a sequenzer-program. I was not shure, weather I did the installation wrong, or my system is,so I got a bunch of other MIDI-supporting programs, most of them are working pleny, but with no noise at all. As far as I remember (from my long ago attempts of learning the keyboard playing), MIDI and SAMPLES don't have to do anything with each other, while samples are only "converted" by the soundcard, the MIDI-sound is made by the soundboard itself, only commanded by the MIDI Files. So far, so good WHY ISN'T IT WORKING ??? And why is soundconfig able to use the midi chip on my board, but no other program? Thanks in advance, Joerg Reinhardt --- -- Joerg Reinhardt Döllbachstraße 15 34127 Kassel Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] re ussucribe me please!
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WTF does ussucribe mean? Unsubscribe? OH! You want us to all get together, come around to your house, type an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe newbie" and post it for you When you joined the list you got an email pretty much asying the following: To unsubscribe send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the subject : unsubscribe newbie. or go to the web page and unsubscribe via the web interface. Now, why can't you follow this insruction yourself. Also, why have /you/ type "re" in the subject! Congratulations - todays prize for worst formed "unsubcribe" request! Begone. Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst Nicholas Simoglou [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 23/02/2000 13:14:11 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM) Subject: [newbie] re ussucribe me please! Face it Steve, this will keep happening because some people are very stupid. They do not listen to your guidance on how to unsubscribe, they do what they think is right. Why? Like I said, they are stupid. There's no use fighting it. I now end off with a quote from Albert Einstein "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -James = - James Luongo [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
[newbie] HDO
Please, how can I disable the hard disk optimization from the Mandake 7.00, unfortunately my computer can't work with it. Thanks
[newbie] newest version of mandrake or redhat...
can anyone tell me what version of either of these is going to support winmodems and usb ethernet cards...? thanks... also can anyone give me a really general explination of the whole .tar.gz files...and the make this and make install that...i want to use some patches for things but i need to know more about the make this and that thing...thanks toie
Re: [newbie] problem with VGA
Audrey Georgeit's on the Mandrake 6.1 (Helios) CD in the /mnt/cdrom/apps/X-Rage128/ directory. Alan Audrey Beck wrote: George Houdek wrote: Hi all I have problem with Mandrake 6.1 Helios .I have VGA rage fury 128 with 32 MB memory. problem is " canno't open X server and canno't open X win" I make configuration with xf86config . Pleas help :-))) George I think there somewhere on the cd there is a driver for this card. Check contibs or the rpms.
[newbie] installing network from scratch
when you have a system without a network card and you want to install one what do you type to get into a configuration mode
RE: [newbie] Login Woes. :(
I get to the screen which asks me for a localhost login. When I type in root it goes NOWHERE!! I don't get to the password bit. It just doesn't let me use the username root. It doesn't let me use any username :((( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [newbie] Login Woes. :( So, you've installed 6.5, set up a password for root, and a second user called dean (with corresponding password). You get to the login screen, and enter root as the user name. It prompts for a password You enter it. It's rejected and you get asked for a username again. You try dean Enter the password for dean at the prompt It get's rejected. Yes? Strange. I've got 6.5 installed here (the Macmillan edition) and have no such problems. Afraid I can't help you anymore - I'd suggest a re-install and see if that sorts things out. As for the partitions, the only one you really need is / Obviously, it's good to have a swap partition unless you've got gigs of ram! The only thing I'd create would be a seperate patition to mount /home under. That way, you can reinstall the entire package, whilst still keeping your own user files seperate. It's what I've done, but there is not reason why you HAVE to. You should be OK with the set-up you've got, but be warned that if you ever need to reinstall the distro again, you'll trash any files you've got set up living in /home/dean/* Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst Dean Bilotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 23/02/2000 11:07:48 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM) Subject: RE: [newbie] Login Woes. :( I realise that Linux is case sensitive and I haven't forgot the password or typed it in wrong. I don't even get that far. The login screen let's me type usernames. But when I type in root it doesn't accept it. When I type in anything it doesn't accept it. :( Are these the only partitions you have to create for a successful install or do I need more: / Swap Disk
[newbie] FW: newest version of mandrake or redhat...
-Original Message- From: toie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 1:42 PM To: Newbie Subject: newest version of mandrake or redhat... can anyone tell me what version of either of these is going to support winmodems and usb ethernet cards...? thanks... also can anyone give me a really general explination of the whole .tar.gz files...and the make this and make install that...i want to use some patches for things but i need to know more about the make this and that thing...thanks toie
Re: [newbie] Login Woes. :((((((((
NOT( " HOME " ) just home without the quotes or paranthesis insert this: /home then try ityou must first place a partition called /home in there also...along with the other one / then when install is complete, IT will automatically (after you give it another username/password beside your own)insert another user. this is what partitions you should have: one for "root" / and one for "home" /home just insert this / for the root, and/homefor the home partition Dean Bilotti wrote: Oh yeah. I also tried creating a partition called: /home and " HOME " That didn't help at all. :( -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 7110071 HomePage: http://kwg.virtualave.net/kwg http://kompukit.dyndns.org (personal webserver,does NOT run 24/7)
[newbie] LAN Internet Connection
* This electronic message and all contents contain information from the law firm of Honigman Miller Schwartz and Cohn which may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message and all copies. * Hello, if anyone could help me I would greatly appreciate it. I installed Mandrake Linux on a Dell Optiplex G1 machine, I am in a NetWare 4.1 environment, with NT DHCP server. There is a proxy server with a Sprint Raptor firewall. My Dell has a 3COM 3C905b nic. lothar "seems" to see the nic ok. I am trying to connect this machine to the internet through the proxy server using Netscape. Yes, I have put the proxy information in Netscape but when I try to access the internet I get a message that Netscape can't connect with the proxy server. If someone could give me a step by step how I would setup my machine to get internet access I would be a very happy camper. ternet b Thanks a million, Aaron Bookvich P.S. I dont need to access NetWare just the internet but out of curiosity... Can Linux login to a NetWare 4.1 or 5 server and access print and file sharing? Thanks again.
Re: [newbie] Wine
Instructions can be found on www.wine-hq.com and in the wine.conf manpage (which for some reason ended up in the wrong dir in Mdrake 7.0-2). To view the manpage do "man /usr/doc/wine-991212/wine.conf.man" (without the quotes of course). If you're running a different version, and if "man wine.conf" doesn't work, you can find the wine docs this way: "locate wine |grep doc". On Feb 23 Billy Noel -Jacob- wrote: Hello, Can someone explain what should be in /etc/wine.conf to configure wine correctly? (My /etc/wine.conf is empty). Or, and that might be more easy, could someone give an example of a correctly /etc/wine.conf ?? Thanks in advance, BillyNoel __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Rial Juan http://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel: (++32) 89/856533 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org Unix IS user-friendly. It's just not ignorant-friendly or idiot-friendly.
Re: [newbie] Information of unsubscribing to the list
Hmm. Not to tick you off, but I believe I have a better idea. How about the list maintainers set up their majordomo to append a "signature" to every mail passing on this list with the unsubscribe info in it? This is how a lot of lists do it, and is the most elegant solution IMHO. On Feb 23 Jackal wrote: Hi ... I have been following the thread of mails on this list about people not knowing how to unsubscribe from this list. This is what I have to say and my suggestion to solve this problem. SNAP so might I suggest that someone (I am willing to do it) sends a short mail to the list every now and then ... (I was thinking one or two days) ... the subject line of this instruction can be made clear to everyone already on this list so that they can procmail or filter it off ... SNIP -- Rial Juan http://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel: (++32) 89/856533 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org Unix IS user-friendly. It's just not ignorant-friendly or idiot-friendly.
Re: [newbie] Kmail Kmail Kmail Kmail
Joerg Reinhardt wrote: my system hung up... but why? What have I done wrong? Why allways me? I guess I'm the only one, working with Linux, wich exit's Linux by power switch each third time, cause it hung up. No, Joerg, you aren't the only one! I've used the power switch several times myself. Hang in there! After a few more days you'll find your Linux system working better and better. The week before last I must have had to use the power switch 5 or more times a day for about 4 or 5 days before I got my problem fixed. Now it's working perfectly. So, hang in there. We've all been there! There IS light at the end of the tunnel! LB
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[newbie] Boot problem
I have just installed LINUX on a quite old TwinHead laptop (75MHz Pentium 24 Mb memory) The installation seemed to work OK and gave me the message Installation successful. On reboot I get LI on the screen and then it hangs. I have tried it as a workstation, server and custom. Help please. Regards Bryn Jones
[newbie] cd-rom won't play music cd
Hi to all, In Mandrake 6 on a triple boot system, I can't get my cd to recognize music cd. It comes up with an error when I try to mount it in X. It has no problem with data, even DOS data, avi, or midi. My SB16 is set up automaticlly, and all other sounds, such as system sounds work fine. Any help would be gladly accepted. Thanks in advance, Brian
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Re: [newbie] web-radio via Kfm
Am Mit, 23 Feb 2000 schrieben Sie: Joerg Reinhardt wrote : Is it possible to liten to web-radio streams via Kfm? What programs do I need and where to download them? Err, I'm not sure but I really don't think so. If there is no possibility to do it with Kfm, what do I have to do to do it with Netscape Navigator? You'll be able to hear live streaming on the internet via realplayer G2 or xmms. You can configure netscape to launch automatically realplayer when desired. see http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/software/realg2.html HTH flupke -- Joerg Reinhardt Döllbachstraße 15 34127 Kassel Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] I allready tryed my luck with realplayer 5.0 (and many other programs I tryed to install), but even althought the config, compile and install processes are working without error, only a few of my installed programs do work. I have got the suspicion that it has something to do with roots permissions. I do run ./config, make and make install as root, but I try to install the packages in /home/joerg, wich is an unprivileaged users directory! Is that possible, or maybe the whole problem?
Re: [newbie] MIDI is not working
Am Mit, 23 Feb 2000 schrieben Sie: Joergare the TIMidity++ and the timidity-instruments packages both installed? Alan I guess they are, it says something about TIMIdity [OK] while booting and the soundconfig can play it's test-midi, but in wich directory they are supposed to be, to get shure? By the way, how to get adresses directly out of Kmails addressbook and put them into addressfield, and no... it's not explained in the helpindex. (or I'm unable to find)
RE: [newbie] mouse shape...
My dear friend, I have that problem too, it appears to be the driver of the video card, do you happen to have an ATI ???. The gurus say it is the new driver, the one that came with RedHat 6.0, the older one works fine, (RedHat 5.2). Bye... Javier F. Colombia - Original Message - From: R.Ilker Gokhan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 9:49 AM Subject: [newbie] mouse shape... Hi all, First, Sorry my English is bad. There is a problem about mouse in the XWindow. Mouse's shape likes this: ( such as barcod lines.. ) || | || | || || | || | || || | || | || But I can use it in Xwindow. I tried to correct using mouseconfig prg. and Xconfigurator prg. but I couldn't. I use KDE and have Mandrake 6.0.My kernel is 2.2.19- 19mdk. Thanks in advice.. Ilker
Re: [newbie] How do I get off this damn list???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hang in there and read a little you might like it On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, you wrote: - Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: - - -- "The Linux philosophy is laugh in the face of danger! Oops, Wrong one `Do it yourself.' That's it." L.Torvalds -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.1 iQA/AwUBOLRpJjSDOYZYZiV2EQIgqwCfUbsZ8KVapIHSN90nEHwA0i6u44kAn2R/ 5gzzIdDsfwIjAg1CuDgZSu+/ =dEru -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[newbie] Can Separate Partitions Interfere?
Thanks beyond expression are due to Ethan Benson and others who confirmed my suspicion that my ppp difficulties were due to conflicts between the three Linux distributions on my system. After editing lilo.conf so that it would find the right kernels, I was able to get online with Mandrake 6.1 right away. Of course, I also appreciate the suggestions of those who didn't know how badly screwed up things were and were trying to help me solve what looked like a ppp problem, but wasn't. -- Lane Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA Getting where I want to be with Linux...
Re: [newbie] screenflash
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, you wrote: Hello, have just installed Mandrake 6.1, and need help with a flashing screen. The X program is automatic, but there is only text on screen immediately following the login page with Penguin graphic. The page continually flashes, seems the monitor/video settings are wrong, so need to reconfigure. This is not possible as the screen is not stable, continually going on and off, so need to make the screen stable again to reconfigure. Is there any solution that does not involve reinstall? Is there any solution? HELP! If u get the LILO prompt before it boots type in init 3 (it maybe init3 Can't remember) and see if you can get to the non x login. If you can log in as root type setup and pick xconfigure and re do it then re boot. G_REEPER - -- "The Linux philosophy is laugh in the face of danger! Oops, Wrong one `Do it yourself.' That's it." L.Torvalds -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.1 iQA/AwUBOLRrmzSDOYZYZiV2EQIJuwCg18PyaFqp+Vo5ha73+4e7vgnuQp4Anibr SAvyxzVjOe36w8rzoh9TdOok =bZIv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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[newbie] Kernel msg : Ran out of Input data/Out of memory
Hi, I thought I succesfully upgraded from linux 2.2.13 to 2.2.14, but seem to have run into a problem. I have three symbolic links in the /boot directory - System.map, module-info and vmlinux. Originally these pointed to my 2.2.13 installation, but I changed these to point to my 2.2.14 installation. By the way my module file is empty as one isn't produce when I do a 'make module_install'. My /etc/lilo.conf file has a new entry, based on the 2.2.13 installation, but pointing to the 2.2.14 installation. When I reboot and start the 2.2.14 installation, I get the following message : Uncompressing linux... ran of of input data -- System halted I reboot again and start the 2.2.13 installation o.k. System.map is pointed to the current kernel version, but everything else remains unchanged. Got this a few times, so I recompiled 2.2.14 and tried again. This time I got : Uncompressing linux... out of memory -- System halted I have run out of ideas here. I only other thing I can tell you is that I have to use 'make bzImage' as the zImage is to large. Any help would be appreciated. Michael
Re: [newbie] mp3 question
Joel West wrote : How can I convert mp3 files to .wav files? You can do that with xmms by slecting the disk writer pluggin and playing the mp3 file Flupke
Re: [newbie] newest version of mandrake or redhat...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, you wrote: can anyone tell me what version of either of these is going to support winmodems and usb ethernet cards...? thanks... also can anyone give me a really general explination of the whole .tar.gz files...and the make this and make install that...i want to use some patches for things but i need to know more about the make this and that thing...thanks toie None that I can think of - -- G_REEPER - "The Linux philosophy is laugh in the face of danger! Oops, Wrong one `Do it yourself.' That's it." L.Torvalds -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.1 iQA/AwUBOLRyZzSDOYZYZiV2EQIfAQCg0lPE9jhQTBdPbu6TPpmWcvdx5TcAn2a9 uRFh/2zFneSNZqdFSBQESfER =hPOT -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Re: [newbie] modems
I don't know if this is inappropriate but I have a bunch of usRob external 28.8 and 33.6 modems. Email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for info. - Original Message - From: Pittman, Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 12:43 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] newest version of mandrake or redhat... Not completely sure, but I think Mandrake 7.02 fully supports the USB connection. As far as winmodems, you are out of luck. Since these modems use windows software emulation to operate then linux kernel itself will likely never support it. however, I have heard of some emulation software for winmodems but don't know how effective it is. The make this make that stuff is kernel compiling for module updates. Try reading a Kernel HOWTO at linux.org or something. -Original Message- From: toie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 6:12 PM To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] newest version of mandrake or redhat... can anyone tell me what version of either of these is going to support winmodems and usb ethernet cards...? thanks... also can anyone give me a really general explination of the whole .tar.gz files...and the make this and make install that...i want to use some patches for things but i need to know more about the make this and that thing...thanks toie
Re: [newbie] Linux won't recognize my 96 Mb of RAM...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two options When you boot linux, do so like this: LILO BOOT: linux mem=96M or edit your /etc/lilo.conf flie to include a line which says: append="mem=96M" and re-run /sbin/lilo. You will have to be loggedin as root to do this. (We really do need an FAQ in here don't we!) Steve Flynn IBM MVS Operations Analyst Ryan Drafall [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 23/02/2000 13:17:37 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Newbie@Linux-Mandrake" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Steve Flynn/UK/Contr/IBM) Subject: [newbie] Linux won't recognize my 96 Mb of RAM... Hello fellow Linux buddies, Everything went great with the install..however, it only recognizes that I have 64 Mb of RAM, when indeed, I really have 96 Mb of RAM. How do I get Linux to recognize the other 32Mb? Your response is greatly appreciated..Thanks. Ryan. UhhhI don't have a lilo.conf anywhere on my system. I'm using Lnx4win if that makes a difference. Also, there's way too much HD thrashing...even for opening some small-ass text editor it thrashes like crazy and takes like 15 sec. for it to load. My system is a PII 300, 96 Mb of RAM, 6.4 Gb HD, blah blah blah...if you need any more information, please ask. Thanks for your help. Ryan.
[newbie] can't get Kppp to dial using my modem...
Hello, I've set up Kppp with all the necessary adjustments and when I try to dial using my CPI ViVa 56LC-SM ISA modem (non-winmodem), it gives me an error messages saying "Sorry, modem busy". What can I do to make this work? If you need more info, please say so and I'll get back to you. Thanks for your help. BTW, you can talk to me (it may be easier) on AOL Instant Messenger...my screen name is Twygg1. Thanks again. Ryan.
