Re: [newbie-it] scrivere con un Editor
Il 11:13, mercoledì 25 aprile 2001, GiulioF scrisse: Ciao Quando uso un editor, e devo utilizzare dei caratteri speciali (come le parentesi graffe o il cancelletto) devo utilizzare la mappa dei caratteri,copiare e incollare ogni volta; non c'è una combinazione di tasti per richiamarli direttamente dalla tastiera ? Ho provato con Ctrl+Alt in tutti i modi ma non mi viene niente. (inoltre il tasto AltGr non mi funziona per richiamare i caratteri che stanno nel lato del tasto ... Ciao e grazie !! Dipende da che mappa hai installato, comunque cosa ti esce se pigi AltGr+8, ad esempio? -- Fabio Coatti http://www.ferrara.linux.it/members/cova Ferrara Linux Users Group http://ferrara.linux.it GnuPG fp:9765 A5B6 6843 17BC A646 BE8C FA56 373A 5374 C703 Old SysOps never die... they simply forget their password.
Re: [newbie-it] Invio fax: successo.
Alberto Zanoni wrote: Il 12:27, martedì 24 aprile 2001, hai scritto : Alberto Zanoni wrote: Inoltre, come si possono ricevere fax ? C'e' un'altra GUI, invece di ksendfax, con cui si possono ( anche ) ricevere ? Io ci sono riuscito senza grossi problemi con kvoice. Ciao, scusa, vorrei allora aprofittare per chiederti alcune cose: - lanci kvoice da root o come utente ? la prima volta l'ho lanciato da root e col pulsantino 0/1 ho acceso il modem in recezione. Poi tutte le volte che riavvio me lo trovo gia` impostato e lo posso usare da utente. - se lo lanci da console ottieni per caso qualcosa di simile ai seguenti messaggi ? Vista la k iniziale, non ho neanche pensato che ci fosse la possibilita` di lanciarlo da console. :-) ciao, andrea
[newbie-it] ADSL Mandrake 8.0
Ciao a tutti, io ho teleconomy adsl con un modem Alcatel SpeedStream 4060 USB che funziona benissimo su windows 98, ma visto che io devo abbondonare sto sistema del * perchè è troppo instabile, volevo sapere se il Mandrake supporta questo modem, se esistono driver. Ho provato sul sito dell'alcatel, niente driver x questo articolo. Il 187 non sa' nemmeno cos'è linux. Se qualcuno di voi è riuscito a far funzionare sto modem con linux, vi prego di rispondere, è molto importante per me! Grazie _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
R: [newbie-it] ADSL Mandrake 8.0
anch'io ho il tuo problema, e non sono riuscito a farlo funzionare, a questo punto volevo domandare alla lista, come mai sul sito della ALCATEL sono riuscito a ascaricare i driver per il modem USB.Forse ora è supportato??? Ciao e grazie per l'eventuale risposta. - Original Message - From: Giorgio Siracusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 1:32 PM Subject: [newbie-it] ADSL Mandrake 8.0 Ciao a tutti, io ho teleconomy adsl con un modem Alcatel SpeedStream 4060 USB che funziona benissimo su windows 98, ma visto che io devo abbondonare sto sistema del * perchè è troppo instabile, volevo sapere se il Mandrake supporta questo modem, se esistono driver. Ho provato sul sito dell'alcatel, niente driver x questo articolo. Il 187 non sa' nemmeno cos'è linux. Se qualcuno di voi è riuscito a far funzionare sto modem con linux, vi prego di rispondere, è molto importante per me! Grazie _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
[newbie] Urgent! Xserver broken -- Help!
Dear friends: I seem to have hit a minor snag, but I have no idea how to get out it. I would really appreciate your help. I am using LM 7.2 with KDE 2.1.1. I tried to download Ximiam Gnome 1.4 (which allows for installation on LM 7.2). After downloading and configuration, I encountered a host of installation errors (after the install process was finished). So, I decided to go back to Gnome 1.2. I reinstalled the six Gnome files that I had to UNinstall prior to trying to install Ximiam 1.4. When doing a rpm -qa | grep gnome I see that all my old Gnome 1.2 files are there. When doing rpm -qa | grep kde I see that all my KDE 2.1.1mkd files are there. After rebuilding my rpm database (#rpm --rebuilddb) and updating my menus (update-menus -v), both of which were successful and rebooting, I logged into KDE 2.1.1 without a hitch. But something has since gone wrong, and I can't figure it out. I tried to remove my .Xauthority file in my home directory and allow a new .Xauthority to be created. Well, a new .Xauthority file was created but I still cannot log into X (any X gui, I have tried startx, startx KDE, startx Gnome, startxfce, all to no avail. Nothing seems to work). I am stuck forever in the console. By the way, all of the files in my home directory (ls -la | more) show belong to me (sher) rather than root, including .Xauthority. Below is the error message I get in the console every time I try to log into KDE with startx (or any other command for any other gui): BEGIN The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Error: Bad length in Symbols Output file /var/tmp/server-0.xkm removed. Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the Xserver Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap _Font TransSocket UNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 failed to set default font path 'Unix/:-1' Fatal server error: Could not open default font 'fixed' X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). END Would really appreciate your help. I just don't understand enough of what's going on to fix this. Thank you in advance. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Grip
michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had to download xmms-vorbis to get oggs to play on my mdk8 system and I checked both disks for it first. Thought you'd like to know cuz of your website! Ogg Vorbis playback support is inside xmms main package: [gc@obiwan ~] rpm -qpl /RPMS/xmms-1.2.4-12mdk.i586.rpm | grep vorbis /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libvorbis.la /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libvorbis.so [...] I'm not sure of the exact numbers as far as size/bit rate goes between mp3 and ogg but if you look at http://www.vorbis.com I bet you can find that info. What I do know is that every mp3 I've ever heard sounded hollow to me like all the midrange had been scooped out. Ogg's sound full and rich and the highest quality gives small enough files that I don't have to trade off between free space on disk and sound quality. Quality between ogg and mp3 is smaller than that. Generally speaking, a 160 kbps mp3 is considered to be perfect quality, whereas this can be achieved with a 128 kbps ogg. [...] make mp3's using bladeenc I did expert install too, and my grip default was ogg and the bladeenc prog isn't even on either of my cd's (inst or ext) and my md5 sums checked...go figure! Of course. There are patent issues with mp3 encoding, including with bladeenc. We can't distribute it. [...] Xmms should play .oggs by the way. There is an xmms-ogg-vorbis package on the cd's that you can install to make it work. I know it should however there is no xmms-ogg-vorbis package on either of my cd's As said upper, no need to install a specific package to get ogg vorbis playback support in xmms. [...] I know that mp3 encoding at 128 Kbps uses@1meg/minute. How do oggs compare?? x kbps means x times 1024 bits per second. [gc@obiwan ~] ruby -e 'p 1024*60*128/8/1024' 960 128 kbps uses 960 kbytes per minute. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
[newbie] Urgent! Xserver broken -- footnote
Dear friends: Just checked. I can't get startx to work either as root or user. Thanks so much. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] can you upgrade mandrake 5.3 to 8.0 over the internet or downloading image?
can you upgrade mandrake 5.3 to 8.0 over the internet or downloading image? I don't have the cds and want to download mandrake 8.0 how can i upgrade my 5.3 to 8.0 from downloading or ftp and upgrading. without using a CD Sal
Re: [newbie] LM 8.0 install
I'm also getting stuck on the install. Putting MDK8 on a Toshiba notebook, a Tecra 8000. I have now burned about 6 disks, from two different downloads and I'm trying to grab one more as I write, just to be sure. I was able to build a boot floppy and the process proceeds nicely until it starts looking for the CD. I yields a message that the CDROM disk does not seem to be Linux-Mandrake Installation CDROM. Retry with another disk? Is there a particular name the disk is supposed to have? The burning software I'm using won't even allow me to keep the name Mandrake80-inst.iso . What name should it have? Any help is appreciated as I am using this machine for a mail server on the two main accounts I use and I need to get it back up as quickly as possible. Thanks. Andy
Re: [newbie] Mutt Postfix
I just wanted to update the group on this issue. For those of you that use Mutt, you know how customizable it is via your .muttrc file. Well that's where the problem was. In the .muttrc you can specify who you are, your email address and the organization that you belong to. The lines would look something like this. my_hdr From: Tim Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] my_hdr Organization: UNIXTECHS ORG my_hdr Reply-To: Tim Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well there's often another line in the .muttrc that tell tells it to remove all extra headers as well. That looks like this. unmy_hdr * Well, from what I've been told by others, if you have the line for unmy_hdr in your .muttrc, it will ignore error messages that you may have from reading the .muttrc. That's what allowed the problem to slip through, but the problem was caused by the line for Organization. If you leave my_hdr Organization: blank, it causes an error. It will allow you to open your mailbox and move around in them and read messages, and even right them, but as soon as you try and send them, you recieve a lovely segment fault, and sometimes a core is dumped. Instead of just ignoring the blank field is dies on you. Personally this being the case is completely retarded, but that's just me. I spent almost an entire day trying to figure out why I had two users, that would continue to get segment faults each time they sent mail. But 5 other users were just fine! That's what pointed me towards the .muttrc. After rebuilding my .muttrc file line by line, (Which was a pain in the @%$ if you ask me!) and finally found that it was the Organization line that was causing my problem. I removed that line, and the problem is gone. I think the people with mutt were retarded for doing that! But again... that's just me. On another note, I found a way to turn off Aurora, and I suggest that it is done, as well as leaving failsafe in your boot menu, as I've seen it come in handy several times. Thanx for listen'n! :0) tdh T. Holmes Unixtechs.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Real Men use Vi. * Tim Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010422 06:25]: | I installed Mandrake 8 last night. And it went pretty smooth. It's back | to using Aurora again, which I don't like, but my sister likes watching | the pretty backgrounds as it goes though. (Believe it or not she's 19.) | | So I get my system up and running, I restore the user directories from my | Mandrake 7.2 install, and everything appears to be doing just fine. I start | fetchmail, I brought of my old HTML files and mail, so I start up my favorite | mail client. | | I start up mutt and it has my old mail, and it reads my .muttrc even though it | thinks there's no $HOME/mail directory, which there is, but it insists on making | one, and everything's fine. So I decide it's time to respond to some emails, | and here's where I have the problem. | | I finish typing up my email, I verify all the addresses are in place and hit | y to send the email. I get a Sending message...Segmentation fault. But it | doesn't actually send the message and then mutt of course dies on me. | | The last time I tried to upgrade Mutt, I had this problem, but it was when I | trying to download POP mail. I keep trying to figure out why this is happening | and then I get it. | | [timh@r2d2 timh]$ mutt -v | Mutt 1.3.15i (2001-02-12) | Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others. | Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. | Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it | under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. | | System: Linux 2.4.3-20mdk [using ncurses 5.2] | Compile options: | -DOMAIN | +DEBUG | -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE | +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK | +USE_POP +USE_IMAP -USE_GSS +USE_SSL -USE_SASL | +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX | +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET | +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM | +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT | +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET |+HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR | +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID +HAVE_GETADDRINFO | ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell | SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail | MAILPATH=/var/mail | SHAREDIR=/etc | SYSCONFDIR=/etc | EXECSHELL=/bin/sh | -MIXMASTER | To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. | To report a bug, please use the flea(1) utility. | | Mutt's configured, straight off the CD, for sendmail. | | SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail | | But Mandrake has been trying to push postfix on everybody for the last 3 releases. | It won't even allow you to install sendmail. Gives you a good 100 or so dependancy | errors. | | So my question, is how do I install Mutt to use postfix? Or where do I go and change | mutt so it will use postfix instead. | | Any help is greatly appreciated. | tdh | | | T. Holmes | Unixtechs.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Real Men use Vi.
Re: [newbie] Little Help
There's a book called Linux Kernal in a Nutshell. (I'm pretty sure that's the exact name.) But it's an O'Reilly book, and I believe it goes into depth on things like that. It's a good book to buy, but you may just do what a lot of people do. Head to your local Border's or Barns Noble, have a seat in a nice comfy chair and get the information you need there. An instant library! :0) But that's just my suggest. That might give you the information you need. Also try newsgroups. Some of those people have a wealth of knowledge nobody knows about. You might find a very large wealth of knowledge there as well. Look for things specicially on kernel o start with, then go from there. HTH! tdh T. Holmes Unixtechs.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Real Men use Vi. * Todd Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010425 09:24]: | Matthew Harrison wrote: | | Hi All, | I am doing a report on Linux for a final in my college comp class | and I am having a little trouble finding any documentation on the | Kernel. I am mainly looking for any text that would describe the | history of the kernel and also if anyone has any good links the history | of linux and all of the stuff such as GUI's and the distributions that | | |http://www.google.com/linux?site=searchrestrict=linuxhl=enlr=hl=ensafe=offq=history+of+LinuxbtnG=Search | | Start clicking on the links that pop up. The first one is the best one. | -- | tlyons at mandrakesoft dot com | http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en
[newbie] how to run kpackage not as root
i would like to be able to install packeages as a user other than root - however, when I try to use an rpm it says i must run kpackage as root. how can i change this so any user can install packages? matt = cosmic systems intertwine astral bodies drip like wine all of nature ebbs and flows ...why does all of nature rejoice? - mad donna http://www.gardenprimitive.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Requesting hardware advice for AMD based machine. jrt
Carlos, You scared me man. I am planing to buy a new computer soon and I am thinking to buy AMD and the MB has a VIA chipset. So you don't recommend VIA. What motherboard, video card, sound card and CPU do you recommend? --- Carlos Arigós [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El Mié 25 Abr 2001 20:28, escribiste: VIA is a death trap. Problem after problem after problem. I will never again buy VIA chipsets. STAY AWAY. I don't know about AMD. My system: MDK 7.2, 128 mb, mobo SOYO 7BVA, P III 733 mhz (Via chipsets) + 2 SCSI Adaptec (1 HD and 1 CD Recorder) + 3 IDE (1 CD 2 HD Seagate Barracuda UDMA 66 7200 rpm) + USRobotics external, + Epson Stylus Photo 700, since the first install 6 or 8 months ago, works fine, very fine. Perhaps the problem is with MDK 8.0? Carlos = Regards, OOzy What is the purpose of life? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Chmod and Chown
Frank, The easiest way is to go up one directory to /var, then issue a chmod -R 644 log/ . This will recursively change permissions on the log directory and all subdirectories. Chown works pretty much the same. Michael -- Michael Viron Senior Systems and Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 09:11 PM 04/26/2001 +0800, Franki at Gshop wrote: Hi all, I have been reading my logs, and I notice that I have a number of world writable files,,, and I want to rectify this,,, now after R'ing TFM, I thought I had it,, chmod -R 644 file.ext to change all the files of *.ext to 644 in the current directory and in all directorys under the current one.. but this doesn't appear to have worked... can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong??? regards Frank, Ps, Does Chown work with the same ?? ie -R or whatever? Frank Hauptle / / _ ---/ / (_)__ __ __ --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / -//_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ Gshop Network Payment Solutions.
[newbie] mswordview
Dear All, I was reading about mswordview in one of my Linux books and I thought I might have it on my LM 7.2 somewhere but cannot find it. Would this program be on my 7.2 CD's somewhere? If not, does anyone know where I can get it. Thanks alot. Marcia
[newbie] Xserver broken -- Still broken
Dear friends: Unfortunately, when I type the command #service xfs restart I get FAILED. Similarly, when I type #/etc/rc.d/init.d/./xfs restart I also get FAILED. Same thing happens whether I type the command as user or root. And the same also for the command startx as user or root. When I type /etc/rc.d/init.d/./xfs status I get xfs is dead, but pid file exists. When I reboot, I get green OK check marks for everything, including Restarting X font Server. I feel trapped in the console and have no idea what the problem is or how to solve it. Thanks so very much. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] sound problems
i think the soundcard is configured and working because when i turn the volume on the speakers and whatever program i am using (xmms or realplayer for example) all the way up and listen very closely i can just barely hear the soundfile playing. however at normal volume i hear nothing. is there some system wide volume setting i need to adjust or anything else anyone can think of? by the way - this system was previously running the same version of linux and souhnd was fine. matt = cosmic systems intertwine astral bodies drip like wine all of nature ebbs and flows ...why does all of nature rejoice? - mad donna http://www.gardenprimitive.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] local account
I am connected via an ethernet connection. I'm trying to use Kmail as the server. I don't think i'm using any client program. Isn't it possible to just use kmail? I think i figured it out though. Looks like i just needed a static IP address for the server i use. sorry for the vague question is was just really frustrated. thanks matt --On Wednesday, April 25, 2001, 5:27 AM -0700 Todd Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: matthew pirritano wrote: I am having a lot of trouble configuring my system as an email server. I'm using Linux-Mandrake 7.2. Can anyone help me. Fill in the blanks: How is it connected to the internet? What software are you using for the email server? What client program(s) are you trying to use? Any other information you can provide would certainly make it easier to answer the question. -- tlyons at mandrakesoft dot com http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en
Re: [newbie] Requesting hardware advice for AMD based machine. jrt
There's an interesting article at Anandtech, http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1456p=1, about how they ran into trouble running their webservers on AMD-based systems. It's worth a read, just to see how they implemented a large-scale site with a Linux-based load balancer, in addition to the hardware troubles. Regards, Nathan - Original Message - From: abram olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Requesting hardware advice for AMD based machine. jrt I've been using amd processors with linux since mandrake 6 without any problems. I've currently got an asus a7v with a western digital HD running reiserFS in mandrake 8.0 without any problems at all. AMD is a great choice for a linux box.
[newbie] Bastille and no root for you
I remember seeing this post a while back and thought nothing of it other than that stinks. Well I installed Bastille myself and I have the same problem. I can't log in as root. At the graphical login screen, everything looks normal. I can log in to my user account, no problem. I can su to root, get into drakconfig, and all that other good stuff. But, when I try to use the graphical login screen to log in as root, I get a login failed message as if I were typing in the wrong password. But, it's not the wrong password and the right one works everywhere else. Bastille was the only thing I installed between the last time I went in as root and now. I attempted going through all the rules for Bastille and changing all the ones that seemed likely to affect the login attempt. My thoughts right now are to uninstall Bastille and see if that works, but I'm not familiar with doing packages thru the console. If that doesn't work, I'll reinstall mandrake :^( But I come to the list for help so that I may avoid reinstalling. Anyone have anything that can help? Thanks, Hans -Cut- From: Duke Glover Subject: [newbie] Can't log in to root account Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:46:00 -0700 Hello Linux gods, Mandrake Linux 7.0 I made the mistake of running Bastille Linux 1.1.0 on my machine. Anyway, ever since I rebooted I can no longer login to the root account. Does anyone know a way around this ? Without root access I can't do anything. There may be a uninstall/undo in /root/Bastille/ , but I can't even get into that directory. Please help. How can I reset a root password without root access ? Duke Glover [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] restoring lilio from floppy
Hi Jamie, 1st boot into Linux and log on as root. 2nd type 'lilo'. Thats all! Regards Joel West On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Jamie Kerwick wrote: I don't actually need to do this, but was wondering for reference. If my lilo config is screwed or removed via fdisk /mbr, how do i go about restoring it. I made by boot disk during installation which allows me to boot into Linux fine. What do i do from this stage? Cheers for the info. Jamie _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [newbie] local account
I think you have your vernacular incorrect here. KMail isn't a mail server. KMail is an email client. It's the front end the user interfaces with to read, send, and organize email. Mail servers are Qmail, Postfix, and Sendmail, just to name a few. Those are the applications that run in the background that handle email traffic such as POP, IMAP, and SMTP. (Again... just to name a few.) Those are the protocols that deal with email. By default Postfix will be installed in Mandrake 7.2 and older. I believe Mandrake 7.1 used sendmail, but I don't recall. As far as running a mail server. You don't need a static IP to send email. You will need a static IP to recieve email directly to your Linux box on a dial-up basis. You could use your mail server to SEND mail, and then use fetchmail to download POP mail from another server. That would be my suggestion for what it seems like you're doing. But if you can acquire a static IP, set up your server's DNS with your ISP so you will have DNS like mybox.myISP.com. Maybe that will help a bit. tdh T. Holmes Unixtechs.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Real Men use Vi. * Matthew Pirritano [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010426 11:50]: | I am connected via an ethernet connection. I'm trying to use Kmail as the | server. I don't think i'm using any client program. Isn't it possible to | just use kmail? I think i figured it out though. Looks like i just needed | a static IP address for the server i use. | sorry for the vague question is was just really frustrated. | | thanks | matt | | --On Wednesday, April 25, 2001, 5:27 AM -0700 Todd Lyons | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | matthew pirritano wrote: | | I am having a lot of trouble configuring my system as an email server. | I'm using Linux-Mandrake 7.2. Can anyone help me. | | Fill in the blanks: | How is it connected to the internet? | What software are you using for the email server? | What client program(s) are you trying to use? | | Any other information you can provide would certainly make it easier to | answer the question. | -- | tlyons at mandrakesoft dot com | http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en
RE: [newbie] grub and Windows
Mark Rather than trying to manually edit Grub use DrakConf/Tools for booting. Then choose the option Configure Lilo/Grub. In the boot options menu if Windows is not shown as hdb1 then you need to Remove that entry and then Add the correct entry. Accept the changes you have made and reboot your system. On reboot you should now be able to boot Windows. If the above for some reason did not work your best bet is to reinstall Grub and let it auto pick-up your Windows boot record. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Stewart Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 11:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] grub and Windows Well, here's what I did. I unplugged my old disk from the primary master, plugged the new disk into primary master, had my friend install Windows98 (he moved fast and I'm not exactly sure how he structured things but I think its all one big FAT32 partition), booted successfully, and obsessively played Black White for a day ;-). Once I recovered, I unplugged the new Windows-only disk, set its jumpers for the slave position and attached it to the primary slave IDE connector and reconnected my old disk to the primary master connector, then set about configuring my menu.lst file. Here's how I set it up based on info from the mini-HOWTO and an article from Linux Gazette: title Windows98 map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 boot I rebooted and when grub presented the list select Windows98. I immediately got the following message: Error: invalid or unsupported executable format. Press any key to continue. So I tried modifying various bits: -removed the second map command, thinking perhaps it was swapping the virtual map back to the way it started. No change. -changed rootnoverify to just root. No change. -removed the boot line. No change. -tried changing the partition specified as root--thinking perhaps my friend had actually installed on a second or third partition. rootnoverify (hd0,1) - Invalid device requested and rootnoverify (hd0,2) - No such partition One bit of additional, and possibly irrelevant, info: a few months earlier under Mdk7.1 I had been trying to get grub to recognize all my system's RAM and, for some reason, ran the lilo command. After that I no longer got the grub menu at startup (though I still booted up just fine) and I instead would see a bunch of black and white text graphics that described my hardware that I assumed was coming from lilo. Then I installed (not upgraded) mdk7.2. Grub came back again but I still got the black and white coming up first. So I'm wondering if I've still got lilo installed on the master boot record and it's chaining itself to grub somehow and that is what is preventing from booting from the Win98 partition. I use 2 copies of windows, one for general use and one for audio work. to do this i had to do as u suggest and format both drives when there were primary master, ( actually i THINK i even installed windows on the one i moved to 2nd master by booting the machine from ide 2, it was none the wiser to my trickery as the disk had been setup as primary master hehe) If u are reinstalling linux grub should see your windows in its new posistion ( it seen both mine with no help from me) if not then i am certain u can point it at it...just not sure how as i havent had to.
[newbie] Re: Turn off Aurora
I guess it would have been smart for me to include that now wouldn't it have? lol Well, here goes. Open up DrakConf or the Mandrake Management what-have-you thingie on the Desktop in KDE. Upon logging in as the root user, if you're not already, select the boot menu. It gives you two different windows as I recall. The one yo'ure looking for is Boot Config. In there you have an option to turn off Aurora. You can even configure the LiLO/GRUB prompt. Whether it's graphical or just text based. I know one colleague that loves the Aurora boot screen, personally I can't stand it! lol Hope that helps. (I'd provide a screen shot, but I don't have screen shot taking software on my Solaris SPARC at work.) tdh T. Holmes Unixtechs.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Real Men use Vi. * michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010426 15:00]: | | | On another note, I found a way to turn off Aurora, and I suggest that it is | done, as well as leaving failsafe in your boot menu, as I've seen it come in | handy several times. | | How? I can't stand that blue screen of idiocy, myself! | TIA! | -michael-
[newbie] Problem with install of 8.0
I had 7.1 set up as a dual boot on my CTX notebook. The bios will see something around 6G max on the harddrive. I installed a 10G HD that I had prepartitioned into 2 5G drives. I have windows on the first and had 7.1 on the second. Since I hadn't really gotten very far into setting up 7.1, I deleted the partition that it was on and started to install 8. During the unpacking of Linux, it gives me a crc error. I grabbed the iso from another site (thinking I had a bad copy) and tried it again. It stopped at the same point. The 7.1 install that I ran from windows worked great. Now I'm wondering if this new install from the bootup floppy is conflicting with the way I have the HD set up. Anyone have any ideas? Lon Lentz Applications Developer CyberEntomologist - Alvion Technologies DataWarehousing and List Sales - Market Your Lists on the Net! [EMAIL PROTECTED] 941-574-8600 Ext. 210
Re: [newbie] Bastille and no root for you
Hans N. wrote: At the graphical login screen, everything looks normal. I can log in to my user account, no problem. I can su to root, get into drakconfig, and all that other good stuff. But, when I try to use the graphical login screen to log in as root, I get a login failed message as if I were typing in the wrong password. But, it's not the wrong password and the right one works Security is what Bastille is all about. How do you enforce security? Force someone to have a regular account and only give them the ability to su to root if absolutely necessary. This is a security driven feature, not a bug. Also a general philosophy: you should do as little as possible as the root user. You should only become root when you need to do administrative things such as change a configuration file for a service and stop/start/restart services. By forcing you to not use root carelessly, the installation is preventing disasters like rm -rf * /. Notice the extra space between the * and the /. This will cause it to first delete all files in the current directory, then begin a recursive delete of the root directory. Whereas if you were to try to execute this command as a regular user, you would only destroy your home directory and the root directory would be a long string of permission denied messages. I personally can't stand it when someone says its for your own good, but this is just such a case. Once you gain experience and understand the many differences between the permissions controlled regular users and the almost unlimited power of the super user (root), you'll be able to safely use its power. -- tlyons at mandrakesoft dot com http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en
Re: [newbie] Requesting hardware advice for AMD based machine. jrt
I know. I am talking about AMD + VIA. I must admint though, the bad experience with their AMD chipsets makes me not want to buy VIA at all. On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Carlos [iso-8859-1] Arigós wrote: El Mié 25 Abr 2001 20:28, escribiste: VIA is a death trap. Problem after problem after problem. I will never again buy VIA chipsets. STAY AWAY. I don't know about AMD. My system: MDK 7.2, 128 mb, mobo SOYO 7BVA, P III 733 mhz (Via chipsets) + 2 SCSI Adaptec (1 HD and 1 CD Recorder) + 3 IDE (1 CD 2 HD Seagate Barracuda UDMA 66 7200 rpm) + USRobotics external, + Epson Stylus Photo 700, since the first install 6 or 8 months ago, works fine, very fine. Perhaps the problem is with MDK 8.0? Carlos
[newbie] Good RPM repository
Hello Where can I find a good RPM repository? = Regards, OOzy What is the purpose of life? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
RE: [newbie] Good RPM repository
http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/ Charles Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of OOzy Pal Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 3:43 PM To: newbie Subject: [newbie] Good RPM repository Hello Where can I find a good RPM repository? = Regards, OOzy What is the purpose of life? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
[newbie] Problem with booting Linux 8.0 on dell dimension machine
Has anybody tried to install linux 8.0 on dell deimension xps600 machine ? I have installed linux on these machines,installtion goes fine .But as soon as i try to reboot i get a block of message VFS: cannnot open device 2101 or 21:01 Please append a correct root= boot option Kernel panic:VFS:unable to mount root fs on 21:01 These computer had mandrake 7.2 before and it worked fine.Anybody help thanks in advance
Re: [newbie] Good RPM repository
OOzy Pal wrote: Where can I find a good RPM repository? http://rpmfind.net Pay attention to what the source is for some rpm. If you download the latest library for something and it comes from cooker instead of 8.0, or RH 7.1 instead of Mandrake 7.2, you might just break things on your system. I'm not saying that you will, you _might_. It depends on the situation and there's no hard and fast rule that says you will or will not break things. Feel free to ask questions in this forum and we'll give you our best answers. Before you install/upgrade/freshen an rpm, make sure you have the one that is currently installed on your system (such as the CD). -- tlyons at mandrakesoft dot com http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en
Re: [newbie] Requesting hardware advice for AMD based machine. jrt
I guess I am just sick of VIA and maybe they are not quite a death trap. However, they always have problems. For example, my Geforce2 works crappy with the chipset (blurry at any good resolution/refresh rate on a 19 inch). The problem is well known and nvidia and via blame each other and will never get fixed. Also, there is the corruption problem with the IDE that causes corruption. They *think* they can fix it by a bios update but still have not provided a fix (at least not for my ASUS A7V133.) There are other wierd things too, such as the fact that an SB Live card in the system systems to make things worst for the file system corruption. I believe the only other chipset option is only really one by AMD. I love AMD CPU's , but the pickings are small for chipsets! I am just saying I will not buy VIA again, as I have had enough with them. For video card, if you don't care about 3D, matrox rocks! For sound, SB Live is the best too. CPU: Well, I love AMD, as they work best for me and are cheaper than Intel. However, you must take into account the chipset thing. On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, OOzy Pal wrote: Carlos, You scared me man. I am planing to buy a new computer soon and I am thinking to buy AMD and the MB has a VIA chipset. So you don't recommend VIA. What motherboard, video card, sound card and CPU do you recommend? --- Carlos Arigós [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El Mié 25 Abr 2001 20:28, escribiste: VIA is a death trap. Problem after problem after problem. I will never again buy VIA chipsets. STAY AWAY. I don't know about AMD. My system: MDK 7.2, 128 mb, mobo SOYO 7BVA, P III 733 mhz (Via chipsets) + 2 SCSI Adaptec (1 HD and 1 CD Recorder) + 3 IDE (1 CD 2 HD Seagate Barracuda UDMA 66 7200 rpm) + USRobotics external, + Epson Stylus Photo 700, since the first install 6 or 8 months ago, works fine, very fine. Perhaps the problem is with MDK 8.0? Carlos = Regards, OOzy What is the purpose of life? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
[newbie] why?
please reply to this i have boufgt mandrake 7.2 power pack deluxe i can't regitry my number but the real problem is that : i have to NO the pnp os i have install the mandrake but when it try's to boot it stop's for 5 minutes in stage2 and after that it goes to a prompt its the firt linux i try to install and work i was so happy when i c the screen shots from mandrake i always wanted to put aside the *^*@#$ microsoft but i cant start the linux WHY? thanx 4 ur time _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [newbie] Re: Retain MBR (reload GRUB?)
How about posting what is in your menu.lst - maybe its not booting from the proper kernel image ?? philomena At 10:38 PM 4/26/01 -0400, Jay DeKing wrote: OK, so I logged in as root, ran /boot/grub/install.sh (after making sure that menu.lst was correct) - I still get stage1 Read Error. What am I missing here? GRUB ran fine when I installed Mandrake 7.2, then I had a Win98 disaster and had to completely format hda1. Linux is on hdb. I should think that there would be a way to get GRUB working again without reinstalling Mandrake. Here is how my drives are set up: hda is Win98, partitioned into two 15gig drives; hdb is 40gigs, Mandrake 7.2, split up into /, /home, /usr, /var, and swap; hde is also Win98, partitioned into two 15gig drives. 100 gigs of space and I'm booting off a floppy. Sheesh. Jay philomena wrote: the file is actually in /boot/grub, and is called install.sh - just run it from the command line and grub will be installed. The grub info grub uses is in the file menu.lst - take a look at that and make sure it points to the proper partitions. cheers, philomena -- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'.
Re: [newbie] Re: Retain MBR (reload GRUB?)
OK, so I logged in as root, ran /boot/grub/install.sh (after making sure that menu.lst was correct) - I still get stage1 Read Error. What am I missing here? GRUB ran fine when I installed Mandrake 7.2, then I had a Win98 disaster and had to completely format hda1. Linux is on hdb. I should think that there would be a way to get GRUB working again without reinstalling Mandrake. Here is how my drives are set up: hda is Win98, partitioned into two 15gig drives; hdb is 40gigs, Mandrake 7.2, split up into /, /home, /usr, /var, and swap; hde is also Win98, partitioned into two 15gig drives. 100 gigs of space and I'm booting off a floppy. Sheesh. Jay philomena wrote: the file is actually in /boot/grub, and is called install.sh - just run it from the command line and grub will be installed. The grub info grub uses is in the file menu.lst - take a look at that and make sure it points to the proper partitions. cheers, philomena -- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'.
Re: [newbie] Requesting hardware advice for AMD based machine. jrt
On Thursday 26 April 2001 08:57 pm, Nima S. Panahi wrote: I guess I am just sick of VIA and maybe they are not quite a death trap. However, they always have problems. For example, my Geforce2 works crappy with the chipset (blurry at any good resolution/refresh rate on a 19 inch). The problem is well known and nvidia and via blame each other and will never get fixed. Also, there is the corruption problem with the IDE that causes corruption. They *think* they can fix it by a bios update but still have not provided a fix (at least not for my ASUS A7V133.) There are other wierd things too, such as the fact that an SB Live card in the system systems to make things worst for the file system corruption. I believe the only other chipset option is only really one by AMD. I love AMD CPU's , but the pickings are small for chipsets! I am just saying I will not buy VIA again, as I have had enough with them. For video card, if you don't care about 3D, matrox rocks! For sound, SB Live is the best too. CPU: Well, I love AMD, as they work best for me and are cheaper than Intel. However, you must take into account the chipset thing. Okay, you've had bad experiences with VIA chipsets, that much is understood. But that does not mean *every* motherboard with a VIA chipset is going to give problems. My primary machine has a Tyan S1854 mobo with a VIA chipset (the Apollo set, IIRC), and I've also used mobos with other VIA chipsets in the past. I can't recall ever having a problem due to either the motherboard or its chipset. This proves only that your particular motherboard, with its particular chipset, gives trouble when running your particular hardware configuration under the version(s) of Linux you've tried. Your detailed description of the problems you have had are informative and helpful to the rest of us -- but please don't exaggerate the extent of the problem by saying things like they always have problems when referring to any vendor's entire line. -- Walter Luffman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]Medina, TN USA Diabetics are just sweet people (Type 2 5/99, d/e/m/motorcycle) Sage, purple 1998 Honda VT1100C Shadow Spirit
Re: [newbie] how to run kpackage not as root
It was Thu, 26 Apr 2001 06:51:44 -0700 (PDT) when matty mo wrote: i would like to be able to install packeages as a user other than root - however, when I try to use an rpm it says i must run kpackage as root. how can i change this so any user can install packages? Never heard of an option that lets you do this. Unless you allow everyone to log in as root. Giving someone root priviliges does not work either (I tried). If I run into something that works, I'll remember your question. Paul -- Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Sylpheed 0.4.64
[newbie] root options during install
I am getting some weird errors I've never seen after MANY installations of mandrake linux. When booting up the installer from CDROM I get a message that says cannot mount root fs, please specify root= option. It then kernel panics and says cannot mouint root filesystem. I have one hard drive with two partitions and the CDROM and thats it. I've tried linux root=/dev/hda2 - The partition I want to install on. Unformated linux root=/dev/hda1 - The partition I currently have win2k on. linux root=/dev/hdb - The ISO CDROM Thats the only partitions and drives I have? I have set up many machines in the same fashion with version 6.X-7.X with no problems. I never even get to the language selection screen. Tried text mode, expert mode, etc. No luck. Any clues? Robb Cadzow Riot 730 Arizona Ave. Santa Monica CA 90401 310-434-6000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] How to do Duel Boot??
Did you create a boot floppy during your isntall? Sounds like LiLO didn't install, or wasn't configured properly. Or did you fdisk the MBR and wipe out the Linux information there? If you have the boot disk I'd suggest using that. If not, you may be stuck to try and reinstall, this time make sure the boot record on the primary drive is edited, it will default to it, but will ask in the install. And make sure that the options for Windows, linux are in LiLO. It should show you at the time of install what options you will have. If everything is in there, it's just a matter of it installing correctly, which it does for the most part. tdh T. Holmes Unixtechs.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Real Men use Vi. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010425 17:20]: | Hi List, | | I have two hard drives in my machine. The first containing Win98 is | connected to the primary IDE connection on the motherboard. The second | contains LM 6.1 and is connected to the secondary IDE connector. My CD-ROM | drive is slaved off the Primary drive. | My question is what do I do next? After a few seconds wait, the machine | boots into Win98. I'm new to this and feel a little lost. Any advice would | be very grateful. | Thanks. | Michael
[newbie] rpmdrake(cant find python)
I have used rpmdrake to install Python from mandrake cd but now I can't find Python to launch it. What have I done wrong? All help appreciated.
RE: [newbie] LM 8.0 install
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 6:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] LM 8.0 install I'm also getting stuck on the install. Putting MDK8 on a Toshiba notebook, a Tecra 8000. I have now burned about 6 disks, from two different downloads and I'm trying to grab one more as I write, just to be sure. I was able to build a boot floppy and the process proceeds nicely until it starts looking for the CD. I yields a message that the CDROM disk does not seem to be Linux-Mandrake Installation CDROM. Retry with another disk? Is there a particular name the disk is supposed to have? The burning software I'm using won't even allow me to keep the name Mandrake80-inst.iso . What name should it have? Any help is appreciated as I am using this machine for a mail server on the two main accounts I use and I need to get it back up as quickly as possible. Thanks. Have you opened the cds in either Windows or linux to verify that they actually contain a directory structures and are not simply mirrors of the ISO file. If your disk do appear to be correct and you are also running Windows try booting the installation disk from DOS using the following instructions. With 8.0 in your drive boot your system with a win98 Start-up disk. Choose the With CD-ROM Support option. I will be using N for my cd-rom. You will need to replace that with the assignment which DOS gives to yours. The entries in s are those the system issues, those without are the ones you are to enter. A:\N:\ N:\cd\dosutils\autoboot N:\dosutils\autobootautoboot.bat004 C:\Mandrakecdrom The Mandrake installation program will begin. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.
[newbie] Chmod and Chown
Hi all, I have been reading my logs, and I notice that I have a number of world writable files,,, and I want to rectify this,,, now after R'ing TFM, I thought I had it,, chmod -R 644 file.ext to change all the files of *.ext to 644 in the current directory and in all directorys under the current one.. but this doesn't appear to have worked... can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong??? regards Frank, Ps, Does Chown work with the same ?? ie -R or whatever? Frank Hauptle / / _ ---/ / (_)__ __ __ --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / -//_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ Gshop Network Payment Solutions.
RE: [newbie] grub and Windows
Well, here's what I did. I unplugged my old disk from the primary master, plugged the new disk into primary master, had my friend install Windows98 (he moved fast and I'm not exactly sure how he structured things but I think its all one big FAT32 partition), booted successfully, and obsessively played Black White for a day ;-). Once I recovered, I unplugged the new Windows-only disk, set its jumpers for the slave position and attached it to the primary slave IDE connector and reconnected my old disk to the primary master connector, then set about configuring my menu.lst file. Here's how I set it up based on info from the mini-HOWTO and an article from Linux Gazette: title Windows98 map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 boot I rebooted and when grub presented the list select Windows98. I immediately got the following message: Error: invalid or unsupported executable format. Press any key to continue. So I tried modifying various bits: -removed the second map command, thinking perhaps it was swapping the virtual map back to the way it started. No change. -changed rootnoverify to just root. No change. -removed the boot line. No change. -tried changing the partition specified as root--thinking perhaps my friend had actually installed on a second or third partition. rootnoverify (hd0,1) - Invalid device requested and rootnoverify (hd0,2) - No such partition One bit of additional, and possibly irrelevant, info: a few months earlier under Mdk7.1 I had been trying to get grub to recognize all my system's RAM and, for some reason, ran the lilo command. After that I no longer got the grub menu at startup (though I still booted up just fine) and I instead would see a bunch of black and white text graphics that described my hardware that I assumed was coming from lilo. Then I installed (not upgraded) mdk7.2. Grub came back again but I still got the black and white coming up first. So I'm wondering if I've still got lilo installed on the master boot record and it's chaining itself to grub somehow and that is what is preventing from booting from the Win98 partition. I use 2 copies of windows, one for general use and one for audio work. to do this i had to do as u suggest and format both drives when there were primary master, ( actually i THINK i even installed windows on the one i moved to 2nd master by booting the machine from ide 2, it was none the wiser to my trickery as the disk had been setup as primary master hehe) If u are reinstalling linux grub should see your windows in its new posistion ( it seen both mine with no help from me) if not then i am certain u can point it at it...just not sure how as i havent had to.
[newbie] More space for machine's hostname?
Using Mandrake 7.2. I'm on an internal network, where the hostname assigned to my machine (fictious but the real name is the same length) keithmachine.internal.company.net should be 34 chars. long, but there seems to be hitting some sort of internal limit of 31 chars. Thus, the '.net' extension of my hostname is cut off. Hostname reports it as keithmachine.internal.company. Gnome complains about the hostname when it starts. Is there a way to increase this length so that the full hostname can be expressed? Thanks! Keith _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [newbie] mswordview
Note: because of the similarities to the name of microsofts' product WordView, mswordview is now known as wv...you can get it here: http://download.sourceforge.net/wvware/ or go to http://www.wvware.com for more info... -Russell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of marcia Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 4:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] mswordview Dear All, I was reading about mswordview in one of my Linux books and I thought I might have it on my LM 7.2 somewhere but cannot find it. Would this program be on my 7.2 CD's somewhere? If not, does anyone know where I can get it. Thanks alot. Marcia
[newbie] Re: [expert] 2D Video Card
I'm getting started on a new linux box and am having trouble finding the information I need for the video card. I don't game so I don't really care about 3D. I need a good 2D card that is no problems under linux and will make a 21 I'm pretty happy with my Matrox G450. It's working great with X 4.0.2. Not very expensive - I got it for $90 or so locally (Santa Clara, CA). 2D performance is excellent. I don't think 3D is all that good. But I'm not a gamer so that's OK. I haven't yet tried running the card in super super high resolutions like 1600x1200 or whatever. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
Re: [newbie] local account
On Thursday 26 April 2001 10:50 am, Matthew Pirritano wrote: I am connected via an ethernet connection. I'm trying to use Kmail as the server. I don't think i'm using any client program. Isn't it possible to just use kmail? I think i figured it out though. Looks like i just needed a static IP address for the server i use. sorry for the vague question is was just really frustrated. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Kmail is an offline mailreader, which is a type of client app -- not a server. I use Kmail on my home machine to download incoming mail from my ISP's mail server, read it, write outgoing mail, and upload it to the mail server. -- Walter Luffman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]Medina, TN USA Diabetics are just sweet people (Type 2 5/99, d/e/m/motorcycle) Sage, purple 1998 Honda VT1100C Shadow Spirit
[newbie] restoring lilio from floppy
I don't actually need to do this, but was wondering for reference. If my lilo config is screwed or removed via fdisk /mbr, how do i go about restoring it. I made by boot disk during installation which allows me to boot into Linux fine. What do i do from this stage? Cheers for the info. Jamie _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.