Re: [newbie-it] Manuale C per linux

2002-10-30 Thread Andrea Celli
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:38:55 +0100
Benedetto Santarella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dove posso trovare (naturalmente in rete) un manuale C che mi 
 spieghi l'uso delle librerie Linux???
 


incomincia con
 man gcc
 man (sezione) istruzione-C
 http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/

ciao, Andrea




Re: [newbie-it] Manuale C per linux

2002-10-30 Thread francesco.melo
Andrea Celli wrote:


On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:38:55 +0100
Benedetto Santarella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

Dove posso trovare (naturalmente in rete) un manuale C che mi 
spieghi l'uso delle librerie Linux???

   



incomincia con
man gcc
man (sezione) istruzione-C
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/

ciao, Andrea


 

http://www.hyperbook.it/

w linux
ciao francesco

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Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0

2002-10-30 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 30 Oct 2002 5:50 am, aaron wrote:
 Hi I just finished installing mandrake 9.0 and am a bit bewildered.
 I look at /mnt/cdrom and in konqueror I see a lock on the icon. My scsi
 cdrom drive also has a lock on it. I can't access the drive from the
 command line. I can't chmod I can't chown. I have one cddrive with no
 lock on it but the disc shows all the content locked
 I am guessing this is due to the supermount but don't see any
 documentation on this.

Is there a CD in the drive?
(Not an audio CD, as that is not a file system and cannot be browsed.)

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Re: [newbie] IBM P50 monitor...help?

2002-10-30 Thread _nasturtium
On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:22, bascule wrote:
 i had this with a panasync, in X if i altered the brightness the noise
 would disappear, it happened after i upped my nvidia drivers and went after
 i upped them again but i can't say for sure that video drivers were the
 problem

 bascule

Hello,
Umm, do you mean software brightness or the brightness control on the 
monitor?

(I'll need to restart my X server after i get offline - dialup)

Thanks!
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[newbie] if i add/+ ram 128mb.my mdk 8.1. is it stable? old swap 257 ram sd 128 make by auto partition when

2002-10-30 Thread Suppachai Rattanadiloknaphuket
if i add/+ ram 128mb.my mdk 8.1. is it stable? old
swap 257 
ram sd 128 make by auto partition when i am
install.How to do?
1.dont chang any thing but add ram coz my sd ram cant
find to my m/b
2.add ram and +swap
3.analize swap = 2X of sdram ?
4.i use I586 compatible I686
5.isa sound card
6.int rockwell hsf con i can use it to day frist time
i connect net with mdk.feel sorrow:) i want marry with
girl not computer :)


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Re: [newbie] Clock settings

2002-10-30 Thread Suppachai Rattanadiloknaphuket
at konsole
type ti + tab text command will show command about
ti***
when u want to use command type man command but i
cant read:( have Thai language?
sawaddee
--- Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Todd,
 
 I use Win4Lin and the same thing happened to me.
 When I corrected
 the time today, it took.
 
 Miark
 
 On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:09:35 +
 Todd Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Maybe you're right.  I never saw a setting in
 BIOS, but I'll check 
  again.  I never did boot to windows.  I only used
 win4lin.  It was wierd 
  because I was up during the time change, and it
 worked fine.  I actually 
  left the machine on and when I came back in the
 morning, it was 2 hrs 
  behind.  That's when started messing with the kde
 clock settings and 
  when I rebooted, the time was 6hrs behind (like
 KDE was assuming that 
  the hardware clock was set to  GMT)
  
  Todd
  
  Richard Urwin wrote:
  
  The background is that MS sets the hardware clock
 in local time, whereas
  *nix sets it to GMT and handles local time in
 software.
  
  Actually I would be suprised if it was the BIOS,
 did you boot Windows at
  some point? That would have changed the hardware
 clock. Since Windows
  takes care of it, I don't see a BIOS manufacturer
 designing such a
  feature. It would be wrong whatever OS you ran.
 If it was a feature of
  the BIOS I would expect there to be an option to
 turn it off.
  
  --
  Richard Urwin, Private
  No 9000 series computer has ever made a mitsake
 or corrubiteddatatato.
  
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:newbie-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf
 Of John Richard Smith
  Sent: 29 October 2002 11:25
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Clock settings
  
  
  Todd Franklin wrote:
  

  
  OK here's my problem:  Daylight savings time
 took effect the other 
  night.  My BIOS seems to be capable of taking
 care of this itself.  
  KDE did too.  So now my clock was 2 hrs behind. 
 I used the KDE time 
  and Date configuration, and set it to the
 correct time CST (central 
  standard time GMT-6) and then when I rebooted,
 kde reported time 6 
  hours behind. In other words, KDE thinks the
 bios clock is set to 
  GMT.  But in boot-up, linux reported the proper
 time.  So this time I 
  set KDE to unspecified (UTC) and now the BIOS,
 KDE and Linux boot-up 
  report the proper time.  However, Netscape mail
 tags all my messages 
  in GMT.  Can somebody tell me the proper way to
 fix this problem.
  
  Todd
  
  
  
  
   
  
  
  
  Possibly you don't haveKED - Control Center 
 -  System  -  Date+time
  set
  to your local ?
  
  It ought to then read your system clock and
 adjust it,but somehow it
  makes
  little mistakes , so just alter it.
  John
  

  
 


  
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Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0

2002-10-30 Thread aaron
Derek Jennings wrote:


On Wednesday 30 Oct 2002 5:50 am, aaron wrote:
 

Hi I just finished installing mandrake 9.0 and am a bit bewildered.
I look at /mnt/cdrom and in konqueror I see a lock on the icon. My scsi
cdrom drive also has a lock on it. I can't access the drive from the
command line. I can't chmod I can't chown. I have one cddrive with no
lock on it but the disc shows all the content locked
I am guessing this is due to the supermount but don't see any
documentation on this.
   


Is there a CD in the drive?
(Not an audio CD, as that is not a file system and cannot be browsed.)

derek


You bet and I tried a few. I had just deleted debian (too much bother at 
this stage in my life)
they worked fine then. In mandrake 8 all was fine. I am seeing a picture 
of a lock on the icons and also on the contents on the inserted cd of 
the one drive that doesn't have the lock

thanks




 



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Re: [newbie] how automatically load drivers for ISA soundcard?

2002-10-30 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 05:49, joe wrote:
 I am running ML 8.2 on an old pentium with an ISA soundcard. Every time
 I restart i have to use modprobe opl3sa2 to get my soundcard working. Is
 there any way to automate this? TIA for your help.

Just add opl3sa2 to /etc/modules and it will be auto-loaded at next boot.

Good Luck,
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SV: SV: [newbie] Internet connection

2002-10-30 Thread Bruno Pedersen
I got a solution from other side, and now I am on the internet from Linux.

For possible other readers with the same problem:

log on in a root terminal session.
execute: /sbin/route -n
any line starting with 0.0.0.0 means that it is a default route which should
be removed by /sbin/route del default
Then by a text-editor open the file /etc/sysconfig/network and remove any
linies beginning with GATEWAY or GATEWAYDEV
Reboot, and now it works like a dream connecting with Kppp.

Once again, thank you Kaj.

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Re: [newbie] Clock settings

2002-10-30 Thread Todd Franklin




Thanks Miark Nice to know I'm not alone 
:-) 

Miark wrote:

  Todd,

I use Win4Lin and the same thing happened to me. When I corrected
the time today, it took.

Miark

On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:09:35 +
Todd Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
Maybe you're right.  I never saw a setting in BIOS, but I'll check 
again.  I never did boot to windows.  I only used win4lin.  It was wierd 
because I was up during the time change, and it worked fine.  I actually 
left the machine on and when I came back in the morning, it was 2 hrs 
behind.  That's when started messing with the kde clock settings and 
when I rebooted, the time was 6hrs behind (like KDE was assuming that 
the hardware clock was set to  GMT)

Todd

Richard Urwin wrote:



  The background is that MS sets the hardware clock in local time, whereas
*nix sets it to GMT and handles local time in software.

Actually I would be suprised if it was the BIOS, did you boot Windows at
some point? That would have changed the hardware clock. Since Windows
takes care of it, I don't see a BIOS manufacturer designing such a
feature. It would be wrong whatever OS you ran. If it was a feature of
the BIOS I would expect there to be an option to turn it off.

--
Richard Urwin, Private
"No 9000 series computer has ever made a mitsake or corrubiteddatatato."




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Richard Smith
Sent: 29 October 2002 11:25
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Clock settings


Todd Franklin wrote:

 

  
  
OK here's my problem:  Daylight savings time took effect the other 
night.  My BIOS seems to be capable of taking care of this itself.  
KDE did too.  So now my clock was 2 hrs behind.  I used the KDE time 
and Date configuration, and set it to the correct time CST (central 
standard time GMT-6) and then when I rebooted, kde reported time 6 
hours behind. In other words, KDE thinks the bios clock is set to 
GMT.  But in boot-up, linux reported the proper time.  So this time I 
set KDE to unspecified (UTC) and now the BIOS, KDE and Linux boot-up 
report the proper time.  However, Netscape mail tags all my messages 
in GMT.  Can somebody tell me the proper way to fix this problem.

Todd






   


  
  Possibly you don't haveKED - Control Center  -  System  -  Date+time
set
to your local ?

It ought to then read your system clock and adjust it,but somehow it
makes
little mistakes , so just alter it.
John

 



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[newbie] NFS Part II

2002-10-30 Thread Anders Lind
Hello again,

now I have sampled more info when I try to mount the NFS-server on my
client machine I get error message: 

mount: RPC: The program is not registred.

I log into the server box and do the command rpcinfo -p and in the info that
comes up I get the portmapper and statusports. I am missing something I am sure
but which files am I missing.

I hope that helps

Best Regards,
Anders


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Re: [newbie] how to install windows and still have lilo?

2002-10-30 Thread John Richard Smith
joe wrote:


On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 18:15, Michael Notforyou wrote:
 

On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 16:58, joe wrote:
   

I wanted to thank everyone for their helpful suggestions and pose some
related questions: I tried to install XP in my fat32 partition, but it
refused to install there. Does XP want to be the first partition on a
disk (starting from cylinder 0)?
 

I don't think it particularly cares. It does, however, need to be in a
primary partition
   


OK so I used fdisk to create a primary partition and set it active, XP
still wouldn't install into this partition, I thought perhaps because I
hadn't formatted it. Used trusty boot disk to get back into mandrake,
ran diskdrake and got this terrifying error: 

I can't read the partition table of device hdb, its too corrupted for me
:( I can try to go on, erasing over bad partitions (all data will be
lost) The other solution is to not allow DrakX to modify the partition
table (the error is extended partition: more than one normal partition
in extended partition. Do you agree to loose all partitions? y or no?


Help. 

Well if this were me I would let XP's own partition and formatting tools do
the job, and see how that gets on, also if XP is like W2k it doesn't much
like multiple primary partitions, though I believe you can force it.Most of
the Windblows newer OS's prefer one primary, one extended containing
any number of logical dos partitions.
John




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Re: [newbie] NFS Part II

2002-10-30 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 30 Oct 2002 8:54 am, Anders Lind wrote:
 Hello again,

 now I have sampled more info when I try to mount the NFS-server on my
 client machine I get error message:

 mount: RPC: The program is not registred.

 I log into the server box and do the command rpcinfo -p and in the info
 that comes up I get the portmapper and statusports. I am missing something
 I am sure but which files am I missing.

 I hope that helps

 Best Regards,
 Anders

Do you have nfs-utils-clients RPM installed in your client machine?

And have you exported your NFS shares in your server?

Your /etc/exports file should contain your shares in a format like this

/home 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw)

and then in a root terminal enter

exportfs -ra

A convenient way to mount NFS shares is using the NFS mount GUI in Mandrake 
Control Centre.

Be sure to unmount NFS shares before shutting down either server or client, or 
else it takes ages to time out and shut down.

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[newbie] Eterm customization

2002-10-30 Thread FemmeFatale



Some months back somone on this list (IIRC Shane or DarkLord) said they 
stumbled on a file that allowed you to tweak the ETerm console for pix, 
text size, etc.

I'll be damned if i can find it in the archives though.  Can someone pls 
tell me the name of the file  its whereabouts in MDK's directories?

TIA
---
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Re: [newbie] NFS Part II

2002-10-30 Thread Anders Lind

 
 Do you have nfs-utils-clients RPM installed in your client machine?

Yes, although the server-utils didn't seem to be installed on the server machine, but 
that is now fixed
 
 And have you exported your NFS shares in your server?
 
 Your /etc/exports file should contain your shares in a format like this
 
 /home 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw)
 
yes

 and then in a root terminal enter
 
 exportfs -ra
 
Yes

Now when I do the rpcinfo -p I get the mountd as well, but not nfs which should be 
there, what I notice 
when I try to restart the service in Mandrake control center is that it says 
rpc.mountd [Failed] [OK], can this have an effect of some kind?

On a related note, has anyone tried to burn CD-ROM's via NFS and how has that worked?

/Anders


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[newbie] Problems Installing NVIDIA drivers on a DELL laptop

2002-10-30 Thread Aguet, Pierre
Dear all,

I'm trying to setup MK 9.0 on a DELL C840 laptop. The onboard card is a
Nvidia GeForce 4 440 with 64MB DDR RAM and the LCD screen is  able to
1600-1200 / 32 bit color.

I downloaded the drivers from Nvidia, but I'm not able to set them up.

Does anyone did this setup before?

TIA

Peter


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Re: [newbie] Kdevelop Again.

2002-10-30 Thread Frans Ketelaars
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:50:08 +
Michael Baca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After several try's, I decided to goto www.kdelelop.org
 and download it. So know I have another problem. The
 binaries listed are for KDE - kde-i18n-af3-3.0.3-1mdk.noarch.rpm
 
 Where do I get the binaries for kdevelop? Or is that it.

Maybe I'm missing something but in ML9.0 I get:

[frans@dolphin frans]$ rpm -q kdevelop
kdevelop-2.1.3-6mdk
[frans@dolphin frans]$ kdevelop
[frans@dolphin frans]$

After [frans@dolphin frans]$ kdevelop a GUI came up and I
clicked cancel. Kdevelop is in my K menu under applications 
development  development environments btw.

HTH,
 
-Frans


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Re: [newbie] NFS Part II

2002-10-30 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 30 Oct 2002 10:40 am, Anders Lind wrote:
  Do you have nfs-utils-clients RPM installed in your client machine?

 Yes, although the server-utils didn't seem to be installed on the server
 machine, but that is now fixed

  And have you exported your NFS shares in your server?
 
  Your /etc/exports file should contain your shares in a format like this
 
  /home 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw)

 yes

  and then in a root terminal enter
 
  exportfs -ra

 Yes

 Now when I do the rpcinfo -p I get the mountd as well, but not nfs which
 should be there, what I notice when I try to restart the service in
 Mandrake control center is that it says rpc.mountd [Failed] [OK], can this
 have an effect of some kind?


What is rpcinfo ? I do not have it installed on my computer (or an rpc 
service) , but NFS works perfectly. 

BTW: 'kwikdisk' is handy to mount NFS shares if you are using KDE, or 
'usermount' if you are using another WM

derek



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[newbie] Some questions regarding a new load of ML 9.0

2002-10-30 Thread DaveA
Hi all,  Just about to start reloading one of my PC’s which needs to have Win98SE 
(for the Munchkins games), Win2000Pro (My study - yawn!) and ML 9.0 (FUN!!!)  Before I 
start, a few questions ☺ ….

1. Do I have to load Windoze first?
2. If I do have to, will I need to use the advanced install mode for Linux to ensure I 
don’t overwrite the Windoze partitions?
3. If I turn off PnP (as I saw suggested in a recent post), will my PnP stuff still 
work in Windoze?

TIA,  DaveA



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[newbie] LM8.0 crash recovery

2002-10-30 Thread Norman Teferle
Dear all,

I have a linux Mandrake 8.0 box which crashed yesterday when I tried to mount the iso 
image of for cd1 LM9.0 to a dir in / as root. An initial hardware reboot seemed to 
work ok, however at some stage it failed and the screen went black. Since then I 
cannot boot without using the rescue option on the LM8.0 installation cdrom.  (I tried 
the tomsrtbt disk but that fails with message:
LILO
Error 0xFF.)

at the prompt, I don't really know what to do. The suggestions at MU.org 
don' t help at the moment as no fs is mounted. 
When trying to do a mount e.g.
mount -t ext2 /dev/hda7 /mnt/disk -o ro 
I get unknown device. 

Can anyone help what to do next ?
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Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0

2002-10-30 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 30 Oct 2002 8:35 am, aaron wrote:
 Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Wednesday 30 Oct 2002 5:50 am, aaron wrote:
 Hi I just finished installing mandrake 9.0 and am a bit bewildered.
 I look at /mnt/cdrom and in konqueror I see a lock on the icon. My scsi
 cdrom drive also has a lock on it. I can't access the drive from the
 command line. I can't chmod I can't chown. I have one cddrive with no
 lock on it but the disc shows all the content locked
 I am guessing this is due to the supermount but don't see any
 documentation on this.
 
 Is there a CD in the drive?
 (Not an audio CD, as that is not a file system and cannot be browsed.)
 
 derek

 You bet and I tried a few. I had just deleted debian (too much bother at
 this stage in my life)
 they worked fine then. In mandrake 8 all was fine. I am seeing a picture
 of a lock on the icons and also on the contents on the inserted cd of
 the one drive that doesn't have the lock

 thanks


Sorry if it seemed a dumb thing to ask, but you would be surprised how many 
people have asked that question without having a data CD in the drive :)

Maybe your /etc/fstab file is incorrect. Here is what mine looks like :-
none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umas
k=0 0 0

(Note I am using scsi emulation that is why it is /dev/scd0 instead of 
/dev/hdc)

If you are not using supermount, then of course the CD has to be mounted 
before use. If you are using supermount, any attempt to mount the CD will 
just screw up supermount.

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Re: [newbie] NFS Part II

2002-10-30 Thread Anders Lind

 
 What is rpcinfo ? I do not have it installed on my computer (or an rpc 
 service) , but NFS works perfectly. 

Hmmm...interesting, I am following the NFS howto and rpc comes with NFS-package
if I have understood it correctly
 
 BTW: 'kwikdisk' is handy to mount NFS shares if you are using KDE, or 
 'usermount' if you are using another WM
 
Thanks, I should look into thatit might be an alternative...I will get back
to you all if things aren't working properly.

Thanks for your help so far

/Anders


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Re: [newbie] KonCD

2002-10-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 16 Oct 2002 10:30 pm, you wrote:
 On Wednesday 16 Oct 2002 7:53 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  KonCD appeared to recognise my ide cdreader, so I hoped to use it for a
  disk copy.  I got the following error:
 
  /usr/bin/cdrecord: No such file or directory. No read access for ''.
 
 
  Error, Exit status: 2
 
  I have checked that permission are set to give access to the group
  cdwriter, of which I am a member.  What does the . signify, I wonder?
 
  Any ideas as to the problem would be gratefully received

 Probably a stpid question but do you have cdrecord installed?

Sorry - wasn't ignoring you, I've been away.

Yes, I can see it - owner root, group cdwriter, and I do belong to the group. 
 I have checked that permissions are set for group.  I'm stuck

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Some questions regarding a new load of ML 9.0

2002-10-30 Thread robin
DaveA wrote:

Hi all,  Just about to start reloading one of my PC’s which needs to have Win98SE (for the Munchkins games), Win2000Pro (My study - yawn!) and ML 9.0 (FUN!!!)  Before I start, a few questions ☺ ….

1. Do I have to load Windoze first?

Generally a good idea.  You can do it the other way round, but you'll 
then have to set aside a partition (/dev/hda1) for Windows, and you'll 
need to reinstall lilo afterwards, as Windows overwrites the boot 
sector.  Not worth it.
2. If I do have to, will I need to use the advanced install mode for Linux to ensure I don’t overwrite the Windoze partitions?

No, the standard install will resize your Windows partition if 
necessary, but won't overwrite it.
3. If I turn off PnP (as I saw suggested in a recent post), will my PnP stuff still work in Windoze?

Yes; the two systems are completely independent.

Sir Robin


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You almost never hear that word computer anymore, do you?
They're part of everything now. They used to be boxes with
keyboards, you know. - Tad Williams

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IDMYO
Bilkent Üniversitesi
Ankara
Turkey

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Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0

2002-10-30 Thread aaron
Derek Jennings wrote:


On Wednesday 30 Oct 2002 8:35 am, aaron wrote:
 

Derek Jennings wrote:
   

On Wednesday 30 Oct 2002 5:50 am, aaron wrote:
 

Hi I just finished installing mandrake 9.0 and am a bit bewildered.
I look at /mnt/cdrom and in konqueror I see a lock on the icon. My scsi
cdrom drive also has a lock on it. I can't access the drive from the
command line. I can't chmod I can't chown. I have one cddrive with no
lock on it but the disc shows all the content locked
I am guessing this is due to the supermount but don't see any
documentation on this.
   

Is there a CD in the drive?
(Not an audio CD, as that is not a file system and cannot be browsed.)

derek
 

You bet and I tried a few. I had just deleted debian (too much bother at
this stage in my life)
they worked fine then. In mandrake 8 all was fine. I am seeing a picture
of a lock on the icons and also on the contents on the inserted cd of
the one drive that doesn't have the lock

thanks

   


Sorry if it seemed a dumb thing to ask, but you would be surprised how many 
people have asked that question without having a data CD in the drive :)

Maybe your /etc/fstab file is incorrect. Here is what mine looks like :-
none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umas
k=0 0 0

(Note I am using scsi emulation that is why it is /dev/scd0 instead of 
/dev/hdc)

If you are not using supermount, then of course the CD has to be mounted 
before use. If you are using supermount, any attempt to mount the CD will 
just screw up supermount.

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I looked in the archives and I guessed that the problem was related to 
the supermount issue. I have a strong feeling I should just remove it. I 
have no problem with mounting drives.
i am currently on my windows partition. (no internet in lin yet)
I will reboot and try this out and let you know.
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RE: [newbie] Some questions regarding a new load of ML 9.0

2002-10-30 Thread Kesav Tadimeti
HI,
I was of the impression that Windows 98 needs to be loaded first before
linux or Win2000 since it completely formats the *WHOLE* hard disk. 
Am I wrong?

Thannks...
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 1. Do I have to load Windoze first?
Generally a good idea.  You can do it the other way round, but you'll
then have to set aside a partition (/dev/hda1) for Windows, and you'll
need to reinstall lilo afterwards, as Windows overwrites the boot
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RE: [newbie] Some questions regarding a new load of ML 9.0

2002-10-30 Thread DaveA
Hi Aaron,  Thanks for that advice (and to the others that have responded!)  When you 
say I also write my boot info to the MBR so that windows doesn't erase it if I have 
to reinstall - how do you achieve that?  Are you talking about LILO's boot info?  Do 
I get the choice where to put that? (Done it a coupla' times now and can't remember - 
Yes, I AM blonde)  TIA, DaveA


-Original Message-
From: aaron [mailto:aamehl;bezeqint.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, 30 October 2002 9:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Some questions regarding a new load of ML 9.0

DaveA wrote:

Hi all,  Just about to start reloading one of my PC’s which needs to have Win98SE 
(for the Munchkins games), Win2000Pro (My study - yawn!) and ML 9.0 (FUN!!!)  Before 
I start, a few questions ☺ ….

1. Do I have to load Windoze first?
2. If I do have to, will I need to use the advanced install mode for Linux to ensure 
I don’t overwrite the Windoze partitions?
3. If I turn off PnP (as I saw suggested in a recent post), will my PnP stuff still 
work in Windoze?

TIA,  DaveA

I always install  windows first. I also write my boot info to the mbr so 
that windows doesn't erase it if I have to reinstall (a common windows 
occurence)
I didn't see the post that mentions turning off pnp but I have never had 
to mess with this. (is this related to an isa device??)
lol
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Re: [newbie] NFS Part II

2002-10-30 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 30 Oct 2002 11:17 am, Anders Lind wrote:
  What is rpcinfo ? I do not have it installed on my computer (or an rpc
  service) , but NFS works perfectly.

 Hmmm...interesting, I am following the NFS howto and rpc comes with
 NFS-package if I have understood it correctly

  BTW: 'kwikdisk' is handy to mount NFS shares if you are using KDE, or
  'usermount' if you are using another WM

 Thanks, I should look into thatit might be an alternative...I will get
 back to you all if things aren't working properly.

 Thanks for your help so far

 /Anders

Anders. This is the procedure I use to start NFS on Mandrake 9.0 (or 8.2)

First install nfs-utils RPM, then
1/ Define the /etc/exports file
2/ exportfs -ra
3/ On client machine open Mandrake Control CentreMountPointsNFSMount Points 
(any required RPMS get automatically installed)
4/Press 'Search servers' button. Select the required server, click on '+' to 
see shares available.
5/ Press Mount Point button, select a mount point (It will be created for you)
6/Press Options button, select any required options (I normally select 'user' 
and 'noauto')
7/ Press 'Mount' button

Thats it done.. when the GUI exits it writes the /etc/fstab file for you.

Subsequently I use kwikdisk to mount/unmount the shares whenever I need them. 
(In kdeutils RPM), or usermount ( in usermode RPM)

Note: netfs, nfs and nfslock services should be running

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Re: [newbie] Some questions regarding a new load of ML 9.0

2002-10-30 Thread John Richard Smith
Kesav Tadimeti wrote:


HI,
I was of the impression that Windows 98 needs to be loaded first before
linux or Win2000 since it completely formats the *WHOLE* hard disk. 
Am I wrong?

Best to install W98 first, thenW2k, then linux, all in seperate partitions,

if you have W98 installed somewhere make a W98 bootdisk  and use
fdisk@ the A:prompt to create the first(primary) partition for W98,

then let W2k 's own partition tool that is part of the install CD1 
create a partition for W2k,left to it's own devices it will create a 
logical in and extended dos partition)

leave all the linux partition to diskdrake,

Alternatively you can use dos fdisk, or Partition Magic to create all
the partitions first and then merely format each partition as and when
required by the install programme. W98 requires that it's partition
be formated before W98 install begins.
I use PM and make sure that one primary with one exteneded dos partition
containing any number of logical dos partitions is created as this is the
way the newer OS's like it these days , though I'm told you can force
multiple primary dos partitions. However some OS's don't like it.

John

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Re: [newbie] how to install windows and still have lilo?

2002-10-30 Thread Technoslick
Joe,

I wouldn't use 'fdisk' of any kind to create an XP partition fro your
installation.

Use your 'fdisk' to clean-up what you have done so that you are back to just
the Linux installation. Load your XP Pro CD and shutdown the computer. Boot
back up, let the installation program begin.

What should happen is that you will be brought to the partitioning screen
that shows you the 'foreign' Linux partition as well as free space that has
not been partitioned as yet. I have found that with XP Pro, as long as you
are not using the whole drive as one partition, it will give you the options
of NTFS, HPFS, or FAT32. At this point, you highlight the unpartitioned
volume and pick the FAT32 format.

If you cannot get to this point (you did mention something about corruption
noted in MDK?), you may have screwed up your FAT and lilo to the point where
you are now in deep 'do-do'. If reloading lilo, and doing what I just
suggested doesn't work, you need to get try to back-up your /home directory
with the intention of wiping and starting over.

If you do wipe everything out and start over, let me tell you what I just
did as of last night (I have a 40 GB hard drive):

1) Wipe all the partitions out. Since Linux is already on the drive, use
MDK's fdisk to wipe all partitions. Do not use MS-DOS/Win fdisk for removing
the Linux partitions!

2) Once you have written to disk from fdisk, shut the computer off. This is
very important!

3) Boot the computer to an Win 98 boot floppy disk that has 'fdisk' on it.
Type this command at the DOS prompt:

fdisk /mbr

4) Load your CD-ROM with XP Pro.

5) Shutdown the computer once more. This is again, very important. You must
clear all the memory registers before starting over.

6) When you get to the screen that shows your completely pristine hard drive
in its wonderfully unadulterated splendor, highlight it and press C to
create a new partition.

7) Decide on the capacity that you want to give XP Pro, and how much you
want to leave for MDK. In my case, I gave 30 GBs to XP Pro since I know that
I will need the room and must have operating space there, as well. That left
me with 8 GBs of space for MDK 9.0 (enough for me, at this time.)

8) Because you did NOT use the whole hard drive, you will be asked what
format you want for this partition. If you really want to FAT32, pick it,
and I would strongly recommend that you do NOT take the Quick option. Hard
drives fail over time, and new ones are not always virgins. It's a fact of
life. The extra time you take now to insure your drive is fully usable saves
potential headaches later. :-)

9) Once you have completely installed XP Pro, remove your CD and replace it
with your MDK 9.0 CD #1. With respect for your time in this, I recommend not
loading any more into XP Pro at this time than is necessary to get it
properly working. If something goes wrong with your Linux installation and
you have to start over, it's best not to worry about time wasted on loaded
programs and frills right now.

10) Do a complete and correct shutdown from XP Pro.

11) Start up, and allow MDK's boot from the CD #1. Follow instructions as
you normally would. I would pick Expert/Install.

12) When you get to the screen that asks you how you want to partition your
Linux system, click with your mouse on the area that has NOT been partition
as yet. Then click on Auto Allocation button. Decide whether you have the
room and care over having a separate partition for /usr, or just for /home
(simple).

13) Complete your installation to your heart's content!

This is how it worked for me. So flawlessly  that I was pretty much ready to
genuflect and kiss the penguin's ring. Everything works great, too, in both
O/S's. They are playing so well together, I almost want to cry! The only
thing that I have yet to change is the timing in lilo upon boot-up. I want
lilo to sit there and wait for me to select the O/S I want, not pick one
after so many seconds.

I hope this helped. Sorry if anything was already very obvious to you. I
figured it best to err on the side of caution. Good luck on whatever you
decide to do.

T



- Original Message -
From: joe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:15 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] how to install windows and still have lilo?


On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 18:15, Michael Notforyou wrote:
 On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 16:58, joe wrote:
  I wanted to thank everyone for their helpful suggestions and pose some
  related questions: I tried to install XP in my fat32 partition, but it
  refused to install there. Does XP want to be the first partition on a
  disk (starting from cylinder 0)?

 I don't think it particularly cares. It does, however, need to be in a
 primary partition

OK so I used fdisk to create a primary partition and set it active, XP
still wouldn't install into this partition, I thought perhaps because I
hadn't formatted it. Used trusty boot disk to get back into mandrake,
ran diskdrake and got this 

Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0

2002-10-30 Thread Anthony Abby
You bet and I tried a few. I had just deleted debian (too much bother at 
this stage in my life)
they worked fine then. In mandrake 8 all was fine. I am seeing a picture 
of a lock on the icons and also on the contents on the inserted cd of 
the one drive that doesn't have the lock


I have the same problem, but turning off supermount clears it up for me.  su, then 
supermount disable should enable you to manually mount the disks and get to the 
content.

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RE: [newbie] how to install windows and still have lilo?

2002-10-30 Thread DaveA
T!!!  Your e-mail (which I've snipped - sorry) was masterful!  Well done
Sir!  I've just gone through a similar procedure this evening and am
even now installing ML 9.0.  I was a bit worried it was going to
overwrite my Windoze partitions (98SE  Win2K-PRO) but so far, so good!


Last time I installed ML I chose Expert (NOT!!!) and somehow started
NFS which wouldn't unmount.  This list has been very helpful in
resolving that, but I needed 2000 instead of XP Pro for study purposes
so decided to blow the whole lot away and start afresh.  Had fun getting
rid of the old partitions, but luckily I have a DOS utility called
Partition Manager which is much less flaky than good old DOS FDISK.
Pity the fdisk /mbr switch is undocumented, isn't it?  Such a handy
command...

Once again, thanks for your 'mail - it was an enjoyable read!  DaveA


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:newbie-owner;linux-mandrake.com] On Behalf Of Technoslick
Sent: Wednesday, 30 October 2002 10:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] how to install windows and still have lilo?

Joe,

I wouldn't use 'fdisk' of any kind to create an XP partition fro your
installation.

Use your 'fdisk' to clean-up what you have done so that you are back to
just
the Linux installation. Load your XP Pro CD and shutdown the computer.
Boot
back up, let the installation program begin.

SNIP

I hope this helped. Sorry if anything was already very obvious to you. I
figured it best to err on the side of caution. Good luck on whatever you
decide to do.

T



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From: joe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:15 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] how to install windows and still have lilo?


On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 18:15, Michael Notforyou wrote:
 On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 16:58, joe wrote:
  I wanted to thank everyone for their helpful suggestions and pose
some
  related questions: I tried to install XP in my fat32 partition, but
it
  refused to install there. Does XP want to be the first partition on
a
  disk (starting from cylinder 0)?

 I don't think it particularly cares. It does, however, need to be in a
 primary partition

OK so I used fdisk to create a primary partition and set it active, XP
still wouldn't install into this partition, I thought perhaps because I
hadn't formatted it. Used trusty boot disk to get back into mandrake,
ran diskdrake and got this terrifying error:

I can't read the partition table of device hdb, its too corrupted for me
:( I can try to go on, erasing over bad partitions (all data will be
lost) The other solution is to not allow DrakX to modify the partition
table (the error is extended partition: more than one normal partition
in extended partition. Do you agree to loose all partitions? y or no?


Help.


 (not a Logical DOS Drive in an Extended DOS
 Partition as MS Fdisk calls it).

  Will I have to delete my / partition
  and re-install mandrake after XP? or...
 
   Is there anyway for me to move my mandrake partitions without
losing
  data, and if so how? I thought I remembered reading that diskdrake
could
  do something like this (when resizing), but do not see any options
for
  moving partitions. Again, TIA.
 
 
 
 
 
   On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 23:40, Todd Flinders wrote:
   An easier way is to just make a boot disk (you can use the dd
command
or the
   Mandrake Control Center).  After installing Windows, boot into
GNU/Linux
   using your boot disk.  After you log in, become root and type:
  
   /sbin/lilo -v
  
   That will reinstall lilo.
  
   On Sunday 27 October 2002 12:46 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:00:54 -0700
   
joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know XP is going to take over, how can I get a boot loader
back
 without installing mandrake again? Can I just use the update
option on
 the cd and not choose any packages to install?
   
Yes, just run it as an Expert/Upgrade.
   
Since this involves a hd change the install may ask which is
your /
partition.
Be sure you know and input it correctly or you will screw your
drive.
   
   
Charles
   
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Re: [newbie] Eterm customization

2002-10-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 04:37, FemmeFatale wrote:
 
 
 
 Some months back somone on this list (IIRC Shane or DarkLord) said they 
 stumbled on a file that allowed you to tweak the ETerm console for pix, 
 text size, etc.
 
 I'll be damned if i can find it in the archives though.  Can someone pls 
 tell me the name of the file  its whereabouts in MDK's directories?
 
 TIA
 ---
 Femme

Yes maam.

/usr/X11R6/share/Eterm/themes/Eterm/MAIN

For menu alterations there is also

/usr/X11R6/share/Eterm/themes/Eterm/Eterm.menu

By all rights these files should be in /etc/X11, but Eterm and
Enlightenment hail from a very early time in Linux's history, and the
authors are not only slow to come into compliance with existing
filesystem conventions, but are also VERY slow to new releases.  This is
a serious window manager used by a very large group of people, enough
that it should merit more serious attention.

HTH,

LX


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Re: [newbie] Eterm customization

2002-10-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 04:37, FemmeFatale wrote:
 
 
 
 Some months back somone on this list (IIRC Shane or DarkLord) said they 
 stumbled on a file that allowed you to tweak the ETerm console for pix, 
 text size, etc.
 
 I'll be damned if i can find it in the archives though.  Can someone pls 
 tell me the name of the file  its whereabouts in MDK's directories?
 
 TIA
 ---
 Femme
 

BTW the system will also recognize

 ~/.Eterm/themes/Eterm/MAIN 

according to the docs.  This of course is for local only effect.  And
yes it's wierd to have a configuration file buried in a themes
subdirectory.

L8r,

LX

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Re: [newbie] Screen Capture?

2002-10-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 18 Oct 2002 7:20 pm, you wrote:
 On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Bryan Tyson wrote:
  On Friday 18 October 2002 12:42, Roger wrote:
   In 8.2 I had a program that was part of the default install, that I
   used on a fairly regular basis to make screenshots. I think it was
   called Screen Capture? Maybe it was just called screenshot in the
   menu. Does anyone know what it's name is, and what the package I need
   to install is?
 
  Could you be thinking of KSnapshot?

 Yep, thats the one. I was thrown by the change in name in the BlackBox
 menu. Thanks, Bryan.


Although the menu item in 8.2 was Screen Capture, the app was KSnapshot, so 
if it's been changed to that on the menu it perhaps is a step in the right 
direction.  I know there is a balancing act between saying which app you are 
about to run and giving an idea as to what it does, but where the purpose is 
clear in the name I would prefer to stick to it.

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Re: [newbie] NFS Part II

2002-10-30 Thread Derek Jennings

 Thanks, this did not help...but I at least get another errormessage
 now...feels like I am getting closerNow I get:

 mount: wrong type of filesystem, erranous flag, error in superblock on
 192.168.2.8:/home/anders, or too many mounted filesystems. I let Control
 Center write to /etc/fstab

 /Anders

Getting closer. It is probably something really simple.

Couple of things to check.
1/ In your /etc/exports file there should not be any spaces between the subnet 
mask and the (rw) access.
2/ If you can see the share displayed in the MCC GUI, then the share is 
obviously being exported. But have you been putting anything in the 
/etc/hosts.allow, and /etc/hosts.deny files ? Mine are both blank.
3/ Is the portmap service running? (Not sure if it is needed, but mine is 
running)
4/ Do you have a firewall running on that interface? (That would kinda kill 
NFS operation)

(BTW: NFS is not very secure and should not be used on any Lan segment which 
is not 'trusted'. )

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RE: [newbie] Some questions regarding a new load of ML 9.0

2002-10-30 Thread Lanman
Having done hundreds of dual/triple boot installs, I've always found
that the most reliable way of doing the installs, was to start with
Mandrake. Simply setup the partitions like I've indicated below, but
remember NOT to format or mount any of the Windows partitions.

Keep in mind that the whole concept of this kind of install means that
ALL downloads, and user-created files (ie; documents, graphics, copies
or backups of emails and address books,etc.), should be configured to
automatically go to the /archive partition.

For example, if you right-click your MS Windows My Documents folder,
and click on Properties, then select the Move button and browse to the
/archive partition (more about this later), where you should have
already created a My Documents folder. Both MS Office and OpenOffice
will be happy with this, although you may have to tell them where My
Documents is located. Once you've done this, most office suites will use
this as the new default location.

When setting up your partitions in the Mandrake install, your last
partition - in this example /archive (should be pretty big on a 30Gb
drive), MUST be formatted with FAT32 so that ALL operating systems will
see it easily. Later when you boot into Windows (either one), re-format
the partition again with Fat32.

The basic premise with this system, is that the only things which will
reside on any of the Windows or Linux partitions will be operating
systems and/or programs, but BUT user-created data ! Any graphics,
music, documents, downloads (for Windows or Mandrake), etc., must be
stored on the /archive partition, which you can also name as Archive
in Windows for ease of use.

This way, if you ever need to re-install any O/S at all, your personal
files are completely safe from potential damage or accidental deletion
and you can still have your anti-virus programs do regular scans of the
archive partition.

Once your Mandrake install is done, and before you do any updates or
tweaking, go ahead with your Windows installs in order of age - ie;
Win98, then Win2K. Each in turn will make itself the default O/S, so
rebooting back into it will happen automatically.

When all O/S's are installed, re-insert your first Mandrake CD, and do
an Expert-Upgrade. this will take about 2 minutes, and Mandrake will
now detect ALL the Windows partitions, and setup mount points for them.
When you get to the bootloader section of the Upgrade, you'll see that
all of your operating systems are listed here, so choose your default
O/S of preference (do I have to state the obvious here?), and finish the
rest of the Upgrade as usual. 

Mandrake will show your existing network, printer and video settings, so
you can just run through this part easily, and that's it. LILO will now
take over as your boot-manager, and will provide easy selection of those
other O/S's that you have accidentally or inadvertently installed! LOL !

This may sound like a lot of work, but you should only have to do this
once, and knowing that your critical information and downloaded data is
pretty safe, really helps. It also allows you to re-install any of the
operating systems safely. Of course, when installing a newer version of
Linux, leaving your /home partition alone should also leave your desktop
settings, bookmarks, etc., alone. It's the only time that not formatting
a partition is usually a good thing! 

One word of caution,...Always backup your personal information and data
files before attempting any installs. 

Here's my suggestions for your partitions in the order they should
appear in Diskdrake during install;

Based on a 30 Gb hard drive,...

1) Windows 98 - 5 Gb.'s
2) Windows 2000 - 5 Gb.'s
3) Mandrake (any version) - 5.25 Gb.'s (/ partition = 3.5 Gb.'s, swap
   partition = 250 Mb.'s, /home partition = 2.5 Gb.'s
4) Remaining space becomes /archive ( as seen in Mandrake) or D:\Archive
partition ( as seen by both versions of Windows)=14 Gb.'s approximately.

Order of installation;
1) Mandrake on third set of partitions
2) Windows 98 on first partition
3) Windows 2000 on second partition
4) Mandrake Expert Upgrade

One last note - You may have to open the Disk Management section of
Computer Management in Administrative Tools located in Control Panel
of Windows 2000 one time before it sees the Archive Partition. After
that you should be in good shape.

Lanman

On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 09:02, Brian Parish wrote:
 On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 22:49, Kesav Tadimeti wrote:
  HI,
  I was of the impression that Windows 98 needs to be loaded first before
  linux or Win2000 since it completely formats the *WHOLE* hard disk. 
  Am I wrong?
  
  Thannks...
  Tadimeti Kesav
 
 The correct sequence for windoze installs is always oldest first. i.e
 98, then 2000 in this case.  Your understanding is incorrect however as
 98 requires a partition to have been created before you start to install
 it.  That partition can be any size you like though.
 
 As other posts have indicated, you can just reserve hda1 for 98, 

Re: [newbie] Some questions regarding a new load of ML 9.0

2002-10-30 Thread Technoslick
Excellent!

Next one I do, I am going to do it this way -- MDK, first.

Thanks,

T

- Original Message -
From: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] Some questions regarding a new load of ML 9.0


Having done hundreds of dual/triple boot installs, I've always found
that the most reliable way of doing the installs, was to start with
Mandrake. Simply setup the partitions like I've indicated below, but
remember NOT to format or mount any of the Windows partitions.

Keep in mind that the whole concept of this kind of install means that
ALL downloads, and user-created files (ie; documents, graphics, copies
or backups of emails and address books,etc.), should be configured to
automatically go to the /archive partition.

For example, if you right-click your MS Windows My Documents folder,
and click on Properties, then select the Move button and browse to the
/archive partition (more about this later), where you should have
already created a My Documents folder. Both MS Office and OpenOffice
will be happy with this, although you may have to tell them where My
Documents is located. Once you've done this, most office suites will use
this as the new default location.

When setting up your partitions in the Mandrake install, your last
partition - in this example /archive (should be pretty big on a 30Gb
drive), MUST be formatted with FAT32 so that ALL operating systems will
see it easily. Later when you boot into Windows (either one), re-format
the partition again with Fat32.

The basic premise with this system, is that the only things which will
reside on any of the Windows or Linux partitions will be operating
systems and/or programs, but BUT user-created data ! Any graphics,
music, documents, downloads (for Windows or Mandrake), etc., must be
stored on the /archive partition, which you can also name as Archive
in Windows for ease of use.

This way, if you ever need to re-install any O/S at all, your personal
files are completely safe from potential damage or accidental deletion
and you can still have your anti-virus programs do regular scans of the
archive partition.

Once your Mandrake install is done, and before you do any updates or
tweaking, go ahead with your Windows installs in order of age - ie;
Win98, then Win2K. Each in turn will make itself the default O/S, so
rebooting back into it will happen automatically.

When all O/S's are installed, re-insert your first Mandrake CD, and do
an Expert-Upgrade. this will take about 2 minutes, and Mandrake will
now detect ALL the Windows partitions, and setup mount points for them.
When you get to the bootloader section of the Upgrade, you'll see that
all of your operating systems are listed here, so choose your default
O/S of preference (do I have to state the obvious here?), and finish the
rest of the Upgrade as usual.

Mandrake will show your existing network, printer and video settings, so
you can just run through this part easily, and that's it. LILO will now
take over as your boot-manager, and will provide easy selection of those
other O/S's that you have accidentally or inadvertently installed! LOL !

This may sound like a lot of work, but you should only have to do this
once, and knowing that your critical information and downloaded data is
pretty safe, really helps. It also allows you to re-install any of the
operating systems safely. Of course, when installing a newer version of
Linux, leaving your /home partition alone should also leave your desktop
settings, bookmarks, etc., alone. It's the only time that not formatting
a partition is usually a good thing!

One word of caution,...Always backup your personal information and data
files before attempting any installs.

Here's my suggestions for your partitions in the order they should
appear in Diskdrake during install;

Based on a 30 Gb hard drive,...

1) Windows 98 - 5 Gb.'s
2) Windows 2000 - 5 Gb.'s
3) Mandrake (any version) - 5.25 Gb.'s (/ partition = 3.5 Gb.'s, swap
   partition = 250 Mb.'s, /home partition = 2.5 Gb.'s
4) Remaining space becomes /archive ( as seen in Mandrake) or D:\Archive
partition ( as seen by both versions of Windows)=14 Gb.'s approximately.

Order of installation;
1) Mandrake on third set of partitions
2) Windows 98 on first partition
3) Windows 2000 on second partition
4) Mandrake Expert Upgrade

One last note - You may have to open the Disk Management section of
Computer Management in Administrative Tools located in Control Panel
of Windows 2000 one time before it sees the Archive Partition. After
that you should be in good shape.

Lanman

On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 09:02, Brian Parish wrote:
 On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 22:49, Kesav Tadimeti wrote:
  HI,
  I was of the impression that Windows 98 needs to be loaded first before
  linux or Win2000 since it completely formats the *WHOLE* hard disk.
  Am I wrong?
 
  Thannks...
  Tadimeti Kesav

 The correct sequence for windoze installs is always oldest first. i.e
 

Re: [newbie] NFS Part II

2002-10-30 Thread Anders Lind

 Couple of things to check.
 1/ In your /etc/exports file there should not be any spaces between the subnet 
 mask and the (rw) access.

No space between 

 2/ If you can see the share displayed in the MCC GUI, then the share is 
 obviously being exported. But have you been putting anything in the 
 /etc/hosts.allow, and /etc/hosts.deny files ? Mine are both blank.
 Both blank, well, there are a few commentlines but that doesn't matter or should not
at least

 3/ Is the portmap service running? (Not sure if it is needed, but mine is 
 running)

Yes, it is

 4/ Do you have a firewall running on that interface? (That would kinda kill 
 NFS operation)
 

Not that I am aware of, we do have a router that connects us to the internet but that
should not have any effect that I can figure out at least

 (BTW: NFS is not very secure and should not be used on any Lan segment which 
 is not 'trusted'. )

Fortunately our LAN is small, only 6 boxes all in all, and we are only NFS'ing between
two of them

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[newbie] Dependency-question

2002-10-30 Thread Anders Lind
Hello again,

this time I have a question about breaking dependcies...this is the case, I would like 
to try and upgrade XChat to 1.8.9 or higher instead of 1.8.7 that I have 
today...unfortunately 1.8.9 requires Perl-Base 5.8.0 that is not on 8.2 of Mandrake. 
Is it possible to remove the perl-base 5.6.x via GnoRPM, then install Perl-Base 5.8.0 
or do these dependencies have to be exactly the ones that goes with 5.6.x. I am not 
sure if that was coherent LOL.

I have not tried to compile XChat from source, I could do that perhaps.

Best Regards,
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[newbie] compile C with GCC in mandrake 9

2002-10-30 Thread teddy wl
Hi

Today I installed mandrake 9 on my computer, the first
i try to make list a simple program ( C language )
just output the text on console. but after i compile
the source file like this

#gcc -o helloworld helloworld.c

the console apears warning about no newline in... i
forget the warning.

but the result of compilation success, i can see the
file executable apears with command ls.
and I try to run this file like this ./helloworld...
the result it's still ok, no problem, but i don't like
if every compile source.c i still show the warning...
what should I do?

Teddy

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Re: [newbie] CD-Writing.

2002-10-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 26 Oct 2002 4:08 am, you wrote:
 I would suggest that you turn off html format in your posts and stop
 posting with 24 point type. If there are special circumstances (poor
 eyesight or something) please accept my apologies for the rant. -
 Richard L. Babcock, Owner
 Tower Training
 At Tower Training, We Bring the Classroom to You!
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Oddly enough, I needed a magnifying glass to read this :-)


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Re: [newbie] Permissions

2002-10-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 26 Oct 2002 8:08 pm, you wrote:
 On Saturday 26 Oct 2002 1:08 pm, Jordan Elver wrote:
  Hi,
  I have a partition on my drive which is purely for all my mp3s, downloads
  etc. The partition is FAT32 so that I can access it from Windoze too. The
  drive is automatically mounted on boot as root with full permisions on
  everything. I assume full permisions as it is FAT32 not ext2 etc?
 
  Although I can copy stuff to the partition as any user, it complains
  about not being able to change the permissions of the file I am copying.
  Is there anyway that I can mount the partition as the user I normally
  use? Is that a good idea?
 
  Thanks for any help,
  Jord

 In your /etc/fstab entry for the FAT32 partition add the option
 quiet . You will then not get that annoying message.

 derek

It's normal, because windows doesn't use permissions.  Derek's suggestion 
will take away the agro, but you can just ignore it if you prefer

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[newbie] Kernel error message from /var/log

2002-10-30 Thread Tony S. Sykes
All,

I am getting an unusual error message on my server in the var/log file.
kernel: martian destination 0.0.0.1 from 172.16.1.6, dev eth0.
Does anybody know what this means. It is an mdk 9.0 box.

Thanks,

Tony.
  

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Re: [newbie] wondering about 9.0 pre-orders

2002-10-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 29 Oct 2002 10:25 pm, you wrote:
 has they been shipped? anyone got theirs?

No, and I haven't heard anything from Mdk either

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Re: [newbie] compile C with GCC in mandrake 9

2002-10-30 Thread Damian
El Mié 30 Oct 2002 15:39, teddy wl escribió:
 Hi

 Today I installed mandrake 9 on my computer, the first
 i try to make list a simple program ( C language )
 just output the text on console. but after i compile
 the source file like this

 #gcc -o helloworld helloworld.c

 the console apears warning about no newline in... i
 forget the warning.

 but the result of compilation success, i can see the
 file executable apears with command ls.
 and I try to run this file like this ./helloworld...
 the result it's still ok, no problem, but i don't like
 if every compile source.c i still show the warning...
 what should I do?

 Teddy

The warning you are getting is probably 
no newline at end of file ..i think it means that the
last character of your program is in exactly the last
line of the file, the warning just pops up because
that could mean a broken/incomplete file.

just add a couple of blank lines at the end
of your file. 

Hope it works.
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Re: [newbie] NFS Part II

2002-10-30 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 04:22 am, you wrote:

 Be sure to unmount NFS shares before shutting down either server or client,
 or else it takes ages to time out and shut down.

 derek

Hi Derek. HmmI don't have that problem here. I never umount my NFS stuff 
before closing down - and all goes well. I've got my main comp as server and 
my 2 sons comps as clients. It does take a little bit longer if I shutdown my 
main comp first, but shutting down either client doesn't take any longer. 

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Re: [newbie] Eterm customization

2002-10-30 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 04:37 am, you wrote:
 Some months back somone on this list (IIRC Shane or DarkLord) said they
 stumbled on a file that allowed you to tweak the ETerm console for pix,
 text size, etc.

 I'll be damned if i can find it in the archives though.  Can someone pls
 tell me the name of the file  its whereabouts in MDK's directories?

 TIA
 ---
 Femme

Hey there Femme! I don't remember anyting about the text size, but I've 
always copied pictures/backgrounds that I liked into:

/usr/share/Eterm/pix

and then edited these files:

pixmaps.list
scaled-pixmaps.list
tiled-pixmaps.list

following the format thats already in each file. I get the cool backgrounds I 
want that way.

With Eterm up/active, hit F1 and it will bring up a config window. I've not 
played with it much TBH though.

Hope this helps ya! :-)

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RE: [newbie] wondering about 9.0 pre-orders

2002-10-30 Thread Myers, Dennis R NWO
Title: RE: [newbie] wondering about 9.0 pre-orders







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On Tuesday 29 Oct 2002 10:25 pm, you wrote:
 has they been shipped? anyone got theirs?


No, and I haven't heard anything from Mdk either


Anne
Note at Mandrakestore says they ship end of October-first of November. They should be going out the door as we type. : ) 

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Re: [newbie] how automatically load drivers for ISA soundcard?

2002-10-30 Thread joe
 On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 01:36, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Wednesday 30 October 2002 05:49, joe wrote:
  I am running ML 8.2 on an old pentium with an ISA soundcard. Every time
  I restart i have to use modprobe opl3sa2 to get my soundcard working. Is
  there any way to automate this? TIA for your help.
 
 Just add opl3sa2 to /etc/modules and it will be auto-loaded at next boot.
 

I believe this was exactly the info I was looking for, thanks to
everyone for their replies.

 Good Luck,
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Re: [newbie] how automatically load drivers for ISA soundcard?

2002-10-30 Thread Maxim P. Kuznetsov
 joe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 
 I am running ML 8.2 on an old pentium with an ISA 
soundcard. Every time
 I restart i have to use modprobe opl3sa2 to get my 
soundcard working. Is
 there any way to automate this? TIA for your help.
 
 
 
Try to run sndconfig
This work in MDK 8  9 with my ISA SB16.  


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Re: [newbie] Problems Installing NVIDIA drivers on a DELL laptop

2002-10-30 Thread Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas
Em Qua 30 Out 2002 07:38, Aguet, Pierre escreveu:
 Dear all,

Have you tried the rpm's or the src.rpm's?

Because you have to dl the src.rpm, rebuild to your system, install and 
customize your /etc/X11/XF86config-4...

That's the only way!

I can't tell you about you laptop, specifically, but I've made several ones 
work this way as recommend by people in this list! and the expert's!

HTH 

Ricardo




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 Nvidia GeForce 4 440 with 64MB DDR RAM and the LCD screen is  able to
 1600-1200 / 32 bit color.

 I downloaded the drivers from Nvidia, but I'm not able to set them up.

 Does anyone did this setup before?

 TIA

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Re: [newbie] NFS Part II

2002-10-30 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 03:54 am, you wrote:
 Hello again,

snip

Hmm, lemme just walk thru some stuff on mine and maybe it will help point you 
in the right direction:

Client computer:

3 main files to edit: /etc/exports, /etc/hosts.allow, /etc/hosts.deny

I'm using /home/darklord/tmp as my export here.

My /etc/exports file looks like this:

#
/home/darklord/tmp  192.168.0.2(rw)
/home/darklord/tmp  192.168.0.3(rw)

(if you make any changes to /etc/exports on a running system, don't forget to 
update it with exportfs -ra)

My hosts.deny and hosts.allow are blank. The point here is just make sure 
that you aren't blocking out your own computers.

If you wanted to restrict access to your comps, then /etc/hosts.allow should 
look something like this (fill in your IPs', of course):

portmap: 192.168.0.1 , 192.168.0.2
   
and /etc/hosts.deny would be:

portmap:ALL
  
All of these (daemons) should be running, on client and server, I think:

rpc.portmap
rpc.mountd, rpc.nfsd
rpc.statd, rpc.lockd (if necessary), and rpc.rquotad

(I think nfs-utils does the above)

Make sure portmapper is doing its thing:

rpcinfo -p

should give you something like mine:

[rootdarkforce darklord]# rpcinfo -p
   program vers proto   port
102   tcp111  portmapper
102   udp111  portmapper
1000241   udp  32768  status
1000241   tcp  32768  status
3910022   tcp  32769  sgi_fam
1000111   udp610  rquotad
1000112   udp610  rquotad
1000111   tcp613  rquotad
1000112   tcp613  rquotad
151   udp  32770  mountd
151   tcp  32770  mountd
152   udp  32770  mountd
152   tcp  32770  mountd
153   udp  32770  mountd
153   tcp  32770  mountd
132   udp   2049  nfs
133   udp   2049  nfs
1000211   udp  32771  nlockmgr
1000213   udp  32771  nlockmgr
1000214   udp  32771  nlockmgr

Client machine:

I created a directory called public on both my sons comps:

/home/zerocool/public
/home/jeremy/public

I put these lines into their /etc/fstab files (so they would automount)

darkforce:/home/darklord/tmp/home/zerocool/public   nfs rw,hard,intr 0 0
darkforce:/home/darklord/tmp/home/jeremy/public nfs rw,hard,intr 0 0

If you change your /etc/fstab, then just do (as su) a mount -a to update.

I got all of this information (and much more!!!) from this site:

http://www.ibiblio.org/mdw/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/client.html

Hope this helps. :-)

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