Re: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 05:34 pm, daRcmaTTeR wrote: > On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Lanman wrote: > > Um, Just wanted to jump in here, before everyone starts exchanging hugs > > and kisses (I hate it when things get mushy!), but has anyone ever > > considered using Samba instead of NFS? > > good God Lanman! you used to "S" word!!! Aah!!! > > to tell you the truth though, it's been my experience that going Linux to > Linux, which I do 97% of the time on my home Lan, NFS is killer compared > to the misery Linux->Linux samba brings. IMHO samba only exists to allow > winders machines to connect to and share files with a Linux machine. I heartily agree - NFS is just great here between my 3 comps - fast and easy to setup. -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet conn. sharing = big screwup! :-(
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 03:54 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: > #!/bin/sh > edit anything you want to change and save as "rc.firewall" in /etc/rc.d and > it will start at boot. It should work right out of the box (if your > interfaces are eth0 and eth1) but i'm sure there are some things you might > want to change (ie stronger firewall) > > HTH, let us know :) > > Jerry Thanks Jerry - I'll look it over on my next few days off and see what fun I can have. :-) -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GLX gears
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 07:17 pm, Sharrea wrote: > On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 13:36, s wrote: > > oh, I love this game! :D > > You would! I can still remember what your lilo.conf looks (looked) like! > > > default window size w/ screen resolution of 1280x1024x16: > > 30911 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6182.200 FPS > > 31089 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6217.800 FPS > > 31076 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6215.200 FPS > > sheesh! > > > fullscreen at 1280x1024x16: > > 2567 frames in 5.0 seconds = 513.400 FPS > > 2566 frames in 5.0 seconds = 513.200 FPS > > 2561 frames in 5.0 seconds = 512.200 FPS > > blimey... > > > AMD xp2100+, 512mb ddr ram, Geforce4 ti4400 with nvidia's 4191 drivers > > in kde on cooker. > > OK, I'm a just a tad jealous ; ) > > Sharrea Hmm. Here is mine, initial window (1024 x 768, 16 bit): [darklord@darkforce darklord]$ glxgears 32431 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6486.200 FPS 32427 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6485.400 FPS 32433 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6486.600 FPS 32260 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6452.000 FPS and at fullscreen (1024 x 768, 16 bit) 5324 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1064.800 FPS 5427 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1085.400 FPS 5428 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1085.600 FPS 5428 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1085.600 FPS Thats a Soyo Dragon Plus MB, 512 megs DDR Ram, Nvidia Geforce Ti4200 (64 megs Ram) XP2200 CPU (1733mhz), with Nvidias' drivers 3123 drivers. all on a 17" monitor. Unreal Tournament 2003 looks great here, just waiting for Neverwinter Nights! :-) -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] GLXgears
couldn't resist had to join the fun, first is in a small window 380x380: 1872 frames in 5.0 seconds = 374.400 FPS 1858 frames in 5.0 seconds = 371.600 FPS 2329 frames in 5.0 seconds = 465.800 FPS 2362 frames in 5.0 seconds = 472.400 FPS 2095 frames in 5.0 seconds = 419.000 FPS 2349 frames in 5.0 seconds = 469.800 FPS \ Then in a full 1080x760 (is it?) 642 frames in 5.0 seconds = 128.400 FPS 643 frames in 5.0 seconds = 128.600 FPS 629 frames in 5.0 seconds = 125.800 FPS 624 frames in 5.0 seconds = 124.800 FPS 614 frames in 5.0 seconds = 122.800 FPS Slows way down with the larger window runs a Duron 1.3mhz with 512mb sdram and a Gforce 2 MX with 64mb ddr Think I have that right. So it looks about average or below. The gears spin fast enough to look like a blur and UT2003 runs well so I won't complain. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Searching 101
On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 17:08:00 -0700 FemmeFatale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 09:26 PM 2/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > > > Heh anyway, email me on or offlist. I'll give you some useful sites to > > > prowl. And if you feel overwhelmed feel free to email me pvtly. I'll be > > > happy to help anyway I can luv. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > Heather/Femme > > > > > I'll post later today or tommorow. I'll divide them into categories for > you boys & girls here on the list. If the list is interested that is... > > Any yeas or nays? Or should I just email them offlist? > - > FemmeFatale > On list or pvt email whatever I would like to see these links for newbies and would like to pass them around at our local LUG thursday night. Thanks Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake Club urpmi.addmedia fails
I have tried several times to get the Club addmedia url added to my rpmdrake and have failed each time (6 total). Is there a trick to it. I put my nickname in as lower case, should it be all upper case as the example shows? Any one have a suggestion as to what I might be doing wrong. TIA for some pointers. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] vi vs emacs (just for fun)
vi is visual editor (improved) and it was wonderful as a replacement for ed where an arcane key combo wrote out part of a line so you could correct a typo on a later part of same line vi is light (relatively speaking) and loads fast. It is a useful editor and for some it is lovable. I have two partially numb fingers on my right hand and I have huge fingers and hands so I was never able to develop touch-typing, which is why I find vi unlovable. I think EVERYONE who is serious about linux or unix should learn the basic commands of vi, at least sufficient to edit text. That is really about 5 commands. i for insert, esc to get back to commands : to do the command line :w to save :wq to save and exit :q! to exit without saving, and the arrow keys the delete key (well that's 10 if you count the obvious ones). emacs is "everything but the kitchen sink" thought you can avoid parts of it. It even allows child processes such as shells. It is without a doubt a powerful desktop (AND I once made an xinit with full-screen emacs as THE desktop, just as a joke. Instead of the default scratch buffer message we had "welcome to emacs, the OS and desktop that needs a good text editor" :-) Seriously emacs is quite an acceptable editor, and if you use only the default loaded parts of it, you can successfully edit large files ( I have 3/4s of a novel I am working on in a plain text file and I use emacs on it). emacs is not as universally loaded as vi. So learn vi. Learn emacs if you want something that can do a lot for you, but don't neglect vi if you are going to be a sysadmin. I use emacs whenever I have some semblance of an excuse to do so, and I love emacs, but I know enough vi to get by with it in emergencies. (For that matter I know enough ed to get by) lessee i to insert, a to append and c to change ,s/old/new/g to replace old with new throughout the file, d deletes lines m moves lines . on a line by itself exits input mode... Guess you can tell I thought a lot of good things about vi when it appeared to replace ed :-) IF vi just isn't possible, there are some alternatives which will hit most systems. nano is a gnu program and is available on most gnu/linux systems. pico is a part of pine and is available on many or most unix systems. The look&feel of the two is identical They are VERY lightweight and very fast. http://www.sax.de/~adlibit/ will give you the editor e3. an older version had a 4.8k binary Yes K not M. e3 runs on ARM, on UNIX (a c-flavor version is availabel in source) and on linux (written in NASM, no less) where its size is truly minimal and its speed is utterly dazzling (except it is only a text editor). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GLX gears
At 09:51 AM 2/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: On Wednesday 05 February 2003 09:48 am, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:29:41 + > > Peter Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Care to inform the clueless how to do what you guys are up to? > > > > > > Thx > > > - > > > FemmeFatale > > > > Open a terminal, type glxgears and watch it rip (or crawl in my case - > > too embarrassed to post results) > > Femme, this is , in male circles, what is known as as pissing contest. > You know we either have to brag about the size or in Peter's case bemoan > it. (-: > > > Charles I mailed her off list with the same basic answer, since i did not think explaining a "pissing contest" was quite the approprite thing for a list where the "moderator" (Todd Lyons I guess now) was attempting to keep it on topic, and was pretty sure a pink haired women might not be able to completely visualize "a pissing contest", since it really is a "man kinda thing". Yar! (Insert Pirate talk here) Heh thx Ed. You're right I had no clue till you emailed me! Lovely I feel silly now. mmm I think i'll skip this particular exercise as I'd lose ... badly. Especially if I don't have a cover from a margarine container to help aim. :) - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will be ignored
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 12:20 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: > >> Don't tell me "quit trying every text editor out there". I'll try out as > >> many text editors as I care to and there's NOTHING wrong with that. > > Never said there was. > > >> You tried one and stuck with it? well bully for you! > > Bully for me? WTF does that mean? Must be a European saying!?!? > > >> Now why don't you go take a nap or something. > > HEHE, i need to. > > > Rob Rob: "Bully" was used in the US about 100 years ago, and is often associated with President Teddy Roosevelt. A free translation would be, "Good for you". Based on my recollection of the classic BBC comedy Fawlty Towers, the term may still be used by retired British military officers. FWIW, it is sometimes used as an expression of enthusiasm, but it may also be used in a sarcastic manner. Sleep is good... -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML9, W98, Knoppix triple boot (long)
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 09:36 pm, BCSoft wrote: > Greetings, > Having installed W98 and ML9 in a dual boot config I decided to try to > install Knoppix as a third boot option. I used the script provided for the > install and hoped Knoppix would recognize that another Linux system was > present. It didn't. After the install I had a W98, Knoppix dual boot. To > remedy the situation I booted to the ML9 install disk and chose the most > minimal install option possible. I figured ML9 would see itself, Knoppix > and W98 and make the appropriate Lilo entries. It didn't. So what I have > now is a dual boot with W98 and a minimal ML9. My first ML install is still > untouched (I used an unformatted, available partition for the minimal > install) and the Knoppix install is still untouched I simply have no clue > how to get to them. The goal is a ML Lilo menu with ML9, Knoppix and W98 on > it. I would possibly like to add DOS 6.22 (for certain games) later. Any > help is appriciated. tia > Rich There are two ways to solve this. One is to make a /boot partition common to Knoppix and ML9 and use the Boot configuratopr to ADD Knoppix after skipping bootloader installation during install. The second way it to use the / partition of your latest install which has a /boot directory and to follow the procedurte given here: http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=473&lang=en Yeah, the instructions are that old--you no longer need to drag the /lib/modules files if you ever did, but you do need to make the / partitions of the other systems visible long enough to copy over the kernel (vmlinuz) and the initrd.img or more properly what they point to. Happy motoring!!! Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Compaq WL110 Wireless Lan card & Mandrake 9.0
Could someone please offer guidance/pointers as to how to get this card working under Mandrake 9.0 ? Ian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Searching 101
On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 17:08:00 -0700 FemmeFatale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 09:26 PM 2/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > > > Heh anyway, email me on or offlist. I'll give you some useful sites > > > to prowl. And if you feel overwhelmed feel free to email me pvtly. > > > I'll be happy to help anyway I can luv. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > Heather/Femme > > > > > I'll post later today or tommorow. I'll divide them into categories for > > you boys & girls here on the list. If the list is interested that is... > > Any yeas or nays? Or should I just email them offlist? Sendem to the list, please :) Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Argh-Software manager is killing me!
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 04:17 pm, daRcmaTTeR wrote: > you guys are all making me feel bad cause mine works correctly. geez! Yeah, I have had no problems with it either.? -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will be ignored
At 12:42 PM 2/5/2003 +0200, you wrote: Jan makes a good point - it depends on what you want to do. If by "edit files" you just mean opening a file and making a few changes here and there, then pico (or nano) exists on just about any Unix-type server, and is really easy to use. If you've used pine, then pico is a piece of cake. The "vi vs. emacs" stuff only comes into play when you want to do more than type in a few lines of text here and there. On my own machine, I find kwrite the easiest, but then I'm not a serious coder - I just do bash and perl scripts. Remember that in kwrite you can save to remote locations, so you can use it to edit files on other machines. Sir Robin *blinks* Point taken Jan & Robin. Hm... This sorta leads to what I'm after I suppose. I want to learn a more "universal" text editor so no matter which machine I'm on in the future (be it a friends with linux on it who's fubared X, or my own) I can edit files & cfgs quickly & painlessly. Nano & Pine... haven't tried either. I'll look into them. Keep the info/opinions coming please! :) I still am considering all my options. I tried Cooledit once but found its toolbar/features very confusing & quite complex! Still I'll try it again someday soon I'm sure. Can't go thru life saying a stupid editor beat me down can I? - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Update the kernel ?
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 02:24 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Hello list. > > I just went to the Mandrake-Secure website. They offer an > UPDATE to the kernel to fix various issues. That's > strange, because I've always been told to INSTALL any new > kernel. > > Opinions ? > > Kaj Haulrich. > === > Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 > Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org > Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. > === Kaj, I just did the urpmi.update thing from command line and it d/l'd just fine, then using the instructions on the ML security web page I edited lilo.config and then did the lilo -v and rebooted into the new kernel with the old kernel showing as an option. Worked well so now I have both and unless I find a problem with the -24 kernel I will later urpme the old kernel. I used one of the French sites that I checked ahead to make sure the new kernel rpms were on it. Some of the mirrors don't have it yet. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will be ignored
At 03:40 AM 2/5/2003 -0600, you wrote: I would recommend vi or vim for anyone who does a lot of text editing (as opposed to word processing) and is willing to learn the basics (a good basic tutorial should take 30 minutes or less) and then gradually pick up more advanced features as you find you need them. It is also very useful for SysAdmins or consultants who have to work with many Unix/Linux boxes, or want a decent text editor they can use on either Linux or Windows. Most of what I have said can also be said of emacs. It's much larger, though with faster computers the load time shouldn't be a factor ... it'll load much faster than OpenOffice.org ;-) Emacs reminds me a little of mc (midnight commander) ... it tends to become a shell of its own, doing everything in its own way. I have used it enough to know that it does about the same things using control key sequences that vim uses with different modes. You will find plenty of emacs people who like it a lot, and those who think cooledit or even pico does everything they need. To summarize, I find vim is extremely powerful, virtually universal in the *nix world and available for virtually all platforms, with a steep but very short learning curve (the modes thing), and I like it a lot. -- Jan Wilson, SysAdmin _/*]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thx Jan! I come from years of having been a secretary & at other times a pseudo sys admin. (One who didn't know much & learned as I went in an office). The midnight commander analogy is why I was thinking emacs would be a better place to start for me as I love MC very much. Thx! :) - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ML9, W98, Knoppix triple boot (long)
Greetings, Having installed W98 and ML9 in a dual boot config I decided to try to install Knoppix as a third boot option. I used the script provided for the install and hoped Knoppix would recognize that another Linux system was present. It didn't. After the install I had a W98, Knoppix dual boot. To remedy the situation I booted to the ML9 install disk and chose the most minimal install option possible. I figured ML9 would see itself, Knoppix and W98 and make the appropriate Lilo entries. It didn't. So what I have now is a dual boot with W98 and a minimal ML9. My first ML install is still untouched (I used an unformatted, available partition for the minimal install) and the Knoppix install is still untouched I simply have no clue how to get to them. The goal is a ML Lilo menu with ML9, Knoppix and W98 on it. I would possibly like to add DOS 6.22 (for certain games) later. Any help is appriciated. tia Rich
Re: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will be ignored
At 04:40 AM 2/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: What a truly civil list we have here! A *discussion* of the relative merits of these two hallowed editors (some would say emacs is more a desktop environment than mere editor ;o) ), without a bitter flaming contest. `course, it is rather early.. <|8^) My US$0.02: see if nedit suits your needs if you find the challenge of one of the big two too daunting. Best, Mike *giggles* Mike: I'd love to say theres no flames cause I put my foot down in the subject line. I can't say that though cause this list really is civil most days. And the ppl are great too! :) - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Lanman wrote: > Um, Just wanted to jump in here, before everyone starts exchanging hugs > and kisses (I hate it when things get mushy!), but has anyone ever > considered using Samba instead of NFS? good God Lanman! you used to "S" word!!! Aah!!! to tell you the truth though, it's been my experience that going Linux to Linux, which I do 97% of the time on my home Lan, NFS is killer compared to the misery Linux->Linux samba brings. IMHO samba only exists to allow winders machines to connect to and share files with a Linux machine. - -- Mark "If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father?" - --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 & 9.0 ICQ# 27816299 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: pgpenvelope 2.10.2 - http://pgpenvelope.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQE+QZF3lz3cA934DmQRAid0AJ47RQtPteKR1Zs3YwBzRoLAGAxr4QCfZjeL g80sBeuVcHSY1FpJ2C8WDqM= =BnTE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 12:30 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: > > >> I don't need Outlook for that (and for the record I've never > > >> used it). I > > >> merely ask that you be considerate in your language. There isn't really > > >> anything else to say. > > > > Plus...today is a continuation of yesterdayi didnt go to sleep last > > nite...it is 6:30 AM CST here in Austin, TX. > > > That never helps. Haven't you noticed how often you go to sleep with a > problem on your mind and wake up with the solution? > > Anne wow! can I attest to that one. I wish I had a dollar every time I woke up with the solution to the logic problem I'd been having with a program the night before. -- Mark "If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father?" --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 & 9.0 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Robert Wideman wrote: > You might have missed my previous posting stating i figured out that i had > to add the computer in /etc/hosts. > > >> Good God man! you're doing it the hard way! > I prefer the hard way. > > >> 1) on the server running NFS ( exporting the filesystems ) > >> start Linux conf->Networking-> > > Network-> what else? > > I know where your going with this anyway... > It would just be easier to (as root) type "netconf" in CLI. Seeing i am > never "logged in" as root, only my user, then i "su -" and do everything > from that. > ALso, if i do it GUI then i feel like i am doing a MS way. It just doesnt > feel correct doing a REAL OS via GUIserver tasks that is. > > Thanks. > Rob Rob, thats ok... but it sounds like you've been brain-washed into thinking graphical interfaces are a bad thing. they're real handy to have around when you've got a ton of other things to do and you just need to get something config'ed quickly so's you can get that assignment finished before it's time to leave for class or something. ;) -- Mark "If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father?" --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 & 9.0 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] how do you configure pine?
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Dalton Roberts wrote: > > I am a newbie to linux and i would like to know how to configure pine so i > can recieve and send emails. I have mandrake 9 and a dialup ISP. > Hi Dalton, there really isn't that much to the basic config for Pine. start it up in a console, at the main menu type an uppercase "S" for setup and then "C" for configure. all the items to be configured are listed there. unless you're doing something strange you shouldn't need to do anything with the place your inbox is, but you definately have to set the values for you MTA and SMTP whether you're doing that yourself, or using your ISP for that. try this link in your browser. Its a link to Google and will yield tons of good info on how to setup Pine for sending and recieving email. http://www.google.com/search?q=configuring+Pine&sa=Google -- Mark "If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father?" --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 & 9.0 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Argh-Software manager is killing me!
you guys are all making me feel bad cause mine works correctly. geez! -- Mark "If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father?" --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 & 9.0 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Update the kernel ?
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:54:39 + Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now, i tried to run MDK Update. It told me there's nothing > pending. Then an : urpmi kernel* : *everything is already > installed*. So I guess the idea is to download those > *patches* for re-compiling ? Anyway, the advice on the > secure-site is a little unclear. To me, that is. I just installed it today using rpmdrake on my 9.0 machine. Do you update your update_source before you checked for updates? Also the Announce just went out today so it is possible that it is not on all the mirrors yet, I use nuplug. Charles -- If a subordinate asks you a pertinent question, look at him as if he had lost his senses. When he looks down, paraphrase the question back at him. - Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21pre4-2mdk - msg118315/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Internet conn. sharing = big screwup! :-(
#!/bin/sh # # rc.firewall-2.4 FWVER=0.71 # # Initial SIMPLE IP Masquerade test for 2.4.x kernels # using IPTABLES. # # Once IP Masquerading has been tested, with this simple # ruleset, it is highly recommended to use a stronger # IPTABLES ruleset either given later in this HOWTO or # from another reputable resource. # # # # Log: # 0.71 - Added clarification that PPPoE users need to use # "ppp0" instead of "eth0" for their external interface # 0.70 - Added commented option for IRC nat module #- Added additional use of environment variables #- Added additional formatting # 0.63 - Added support for the IRC IPTABLES module # 0.62 - Fixed a typo on the MASQ enable line that used eth0 # instead of $EXTIF # 0.61 - Changed the firewall to use variables for the internal # and external interfaces. # 0.60 - 0.50 had a mistake where the ruleset had a rule to DROP # all forwarded packets but it didn't have a rule to ACCEPT # any packets to be forwarded either #- Load the ip_nat_ftp and ip_conntrack_ftp modules by default # 0.50 - Initial draft # echo -e "\n\nLoading simple rc.firewall version $FWVER..\n" # The location of the iptables and kernel module programs # # If your Linux distribution came with a copy of iptables, # most likely all the programs will be located in /sbin. If # you manually compiled iptables, the default location will # be in /usr/local/sbin # # ** Please use the "whereis iptables" command to figure out # ** where your copy is and change the path below to reflect # ** your setup # #IPTABLES=/sbin/iptables IPTABLES=/sbin/iptables DEPMOD=/sbin/depmod INSMOD=/sbin/insmod #Setting the EXTERNAL and INTERNAL interfaces for the network # # Each IP Masquerade network needs to have at least one # external and one internal network. The external network # is where the natting will occur and the internal network # should preferably be addressed with a RFC1918 private address # scheme. # # For this example, "eth0" is external and "eth1" is internal" # # # NOTE: If this doesnt EXACTLY fit your configuration, you must # change the EXTIF or INTIF variables above. For example: # #If you are a PPPoE or analog modem user: # # EXTIF="ppp0" # # EXTIF="eth0" INTIF="eth1" echo " External Interface: $EXTIF" echo " Internal Interface: $INTIF" #== #== No editing beyond this line is required for initial MASQ testing == echo -en " loading modules: " # Need to verify that all modules have all required dependencies # echo " - Verifying that all kernel modules are ok" $DEPMOD -a # With the new IPTABLES code, the core MASQ functionality is now either # modular or compiled into the kernel. This HOWTO shows ALL IPTABLES # options as MODULES. If your kernel is compiled correctly, there is # NO need to load the kernel modules manually. # # NOTE: The following items are listed ONLY for informational reasons. #There is no reason to manual load these modules unless your #kernel is either mis-configured or you intentionally disabled #the kernel module autoloader. # # Upon the commands of starting up IP Masq on the server, the # following kernel modules will be automatically loaded: # # NOTE: Only load the IP MASQ modules you need. All current IP MASQ #modules are shown below but are commented out from loading. # === echo "--" #Load the main body of the IPTABLES module - "iptable" # - Loaded automatically when the "iptables" command is invoked # # - Loaded manually to clean up kernel auto-loading timing issues # echo -en "ip_tables, " $INSMOD ip_tables #Load the IPTABLES filtering module - "iptable_filter" # - Loaded automatically when filter policies are activated #Load the stateful connection tracking framework - "ip_conntrack" # # The conntrack module in itself does nothing without other specific # conntrack modules being loaded afterwards such as the "ip_conntrack_ftp" # module # # - This module is loaded automatically when MASQ functionality is #enabled # # - Loaded manually to clean up kernel auto-loading timing issues # echo -en "ip_conntrack, " $INSMOD ip_conntrack #Load the FTP tracking mechanism for full FTP tracking # # Enabled by default -- insert a "#" on the next line to deactivate # echo -en "ip_conntrack_ftp, " $INSMOD ip_conntrack_ftp #Load the IRC tracking mechanism for full IRC tracking # # Enabled by default -- insert a "#" on the next line to deactivate # echo -en "ip_conntrack_irc, " $INSMOD ip_conntrack_irc #Load the general IPTABLES NAT code - "iptab
Re: [newbie] Update the kernel ?
Thank you Charlie and Charles. Now, i tried to run MDK Update. It told me there's nothing pending. Then an : urpmi kernel* : *everything is already installed*. So I guess the idea is to download those *patches* for re-compiling ? Anyway, the advice on the secure-site is a little unclear. To me, that is. Regards Kaj Haulrich. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] userdrake error : ptmp gtmp exists
Thanks Anne, everything OK again From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] userdrake error : ptmp gtmp exists Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:33:26 + On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 8:28 pm, ivette brusselmans wrote: > when I try to open userdrake in MCC System to add a new user, I get an > error message > "cannot lock user lib, file etc/ptmp or etc/gtmp exist" > what is happening? > They are temp files that sometimes get left behind when MCC closes down. If you can find either or both, delete them and all will be well. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] userdrake error : ptmp gtmp exists
Don't know why this happens, but I just delete those files and everything works fine. Perhaps someone else can shed some light, a bug maybe? MtnMan On Wednesday 05 February 2003 03:28 pm, ivette brusselmans wrote: > when I try to open userdrake in MCC System to add a new user, I get an > error message > "cannot lock user lib, file etc/ptmp or etc/gtmp exist" > what is happening? > > thanks > > _ > Ontvang je Hotmail & Messenger berichten op je mobiele telefoon met Hotmail > SMS http://www.msn.be/gsm/smsservices -- 3:37pm up 5 days, 1:52, 3 users, load average: 0.17, 0.08, 0.07 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet conn. sharing = big screwup! :-(
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 03:36 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: > The only way i could get mine to work was to uninstall shorewall and use an > rc.firewall from the IPTABLES HOWTO. I can post the basic script if you'd > like. > > Jerry. Again and again I see the same answer - Shorewall! It appears that more beta testing needed to be done with this. Jerry, if you don't mind - send it. (offlist if its very long) And Thanks! :-) -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] userdrake error : ptmp gtmp exists
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 8:28 pm, ivette brusselmans wrote: > when I try to open userdrake in MCC System to add a new user, I get an > error message > "cannot lock user lib, file etc/ptmp or etc/gtmp exist" > what is happening? > They are temp files that sometimes get left behind when MCC closes down. If you can find either or both, delete them and all will be well. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet conn. sharing = big screwup! :-(
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:57:42 -0500 "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 05 February 2003 10:07 am, magnet wrote: > > > Glad you got it sorted Ronald. :) > > But I didn't. Well, I mean I returned my system to its prior status, I can > ping between comps, NFS works again, etc, etc, but connection sharing is NOT > working. > > SOwhat do I do to get connection sharing to work without screwing up all > my existing settings? This worked fine under v8.2 > > Thanks. > > -- > > /\ > Dark< >Lord > \/ > > > The only way i could get mine to work was to uninstall shorewall and use an rc.firewall from the IPTABLES HOWTO. I can post the basic script if you'd like. Jerry. -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (¬_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet conn. sharing = big screwup! :-(
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 03:18 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > DarkLord - which version of the distro do you have? Does it have much > documentation with it? I have the PowerPack and there are several .pdf > manuals. If you haven't got them I'll try to find time to browse and see > if there's anything there that would help you. I'm going to be away for a > long weekend, so time could be a problem for a few days, but yell if you > need me to try this. > > Anne Anne, I searched the expert list for "connection sharing" and a whole lot of people (better versed than I) are having trouble with connection sharing under v9.0 of Mandrake. Its Shorewall basically - seems like a pretty sloppy piece of software, in a lot of people's opinion. I'll post a resolution once/when/if I find one... As always, thanks for the offer of help! :-) -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] userdrake error : ptmp gtmp exists
when I try to open userdrake in MCC System to add a new user, I get an error message "cannot lock user lib, file etc/ptmp or etc/gtmp exist" what is happening? thanks _ Ontvang je Hotmail & Messenger berichten op je mobiele telefoon met Hotmail SMS http://www.msn.be/gsm/smsservices Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Update the kernel ?
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 01:24 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Hello list. > > I just went to the Mandrake-Secure website. They offer an > UPDATE to the kernel to fix various issues. That's > strange, because I've always been told to INSTALL any new > kernel. > > Opinions ? > > Kaj Haulrich. > === > Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 > Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org > Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. > === Hello Kaj; I can't remember if urpmi was written to update kernels or install them, even though the /etc/urpmi/skip.list has the kernel written into it. Among other things. I do know that I always play safe; download the kernel and the kernel source rpms then in a super user terminal I do without the "": "rpm -ivh .rpm" instead of the upgrade "Uvh", then; "rpm -ivh .rpm" and; "/sbin/lilo -v" to add the new kernel. If something goes kerflooey (a technical term I'm intimately familiar with ) you'll still have a working kernel to work with. Just seems safer that way. But then I hate reinstalls when I screw up. That happens often too. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org The fact that boys are allowed to exist at all is evidence of a remarkable Christian forbearance among men. -- Ambrose Bierce Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet conn. sharing = big screwup! :-(
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 6:57 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Wednesday 05 February 2003 10:07 am, magnet wrote: > > Glad you got it sorted Ronald. :) > > But I didn't. Well, I mean I returned my system to its prior status, I can > ping between comps, NFS works again, etc, etc, but connection sharing is > NOT working. > > SOwhat do I do to get connection sharing to work without screwing up > all my existing settings? This worked fine under v8.2 > > Thanks. DarkLord - which version of the distro do you have? Does it have much documentation with it? I have the PowerPack and there are several .pdf manuals. If you haven't got them I'll try to find time to browse and see if there's anything there that would help you. I'm going to be away for a long weekend, so time could be a problem for a few days, but yell if you need me to try this. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I am braindead
Join the club LOL *sits down with Anne and makes smalltalk* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Update the kernel ?
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:24:58 + Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just went to the Mandrake-Secure website. They offer an > UPDATE to the kernel to fix various issues. That's > strange, because I've always been told to INSTALL any new > kernel. There is really nothing strange about it. Remember Update and upgrade are not the same. In 9.0 both rpmdrake and urpmi will "install' any new kernel pkg as an install as in -ivh whereas the kernel-source and kernel-doc pkgs will"install" as an upgrade as in -Uvh Charles -- Fortune's real live weird band names #231: Exploding Head Trick - Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21pre4-2mdk - msg118302/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] OT--the problem i have with email
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 19:16, Benjamin Jeeves wrote: > Sorry but I think then maybe you need to try and read and re-read that > person Q I did. > b/c there might be like me Dyslexic or like you say not good at > english. I'm aware of it. I'm not saying i'm any better, either. My native language is spanish and by no means i think of myself as an english expert. > I my not having a go but thing like that make me think 2 times > about wrtiing to groups like these Well, i don't know about other places. Maybe there are a lot of groups/lists where you can get flamed if you do not ellaborate semantically, grammatically correct messages with perfect speling, but i think we're quite open over here. There's no need to think twice before asking here. All i say is that there IS a need to think twice while actually typing. Damian -- -- I don't want Windows to be only for the 31173. Yes, we've come a long way from all those security holes, virii, and cryptic commands like "Edit textfile.txt" (what in the hell is that supposed to mean?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 07:21 am, et wrote: > ehhh.. I am the only one allowed to be holier-than-thou,,, and if you don't > believe me,,, just wait till my wife gets up and she will tell you the same > thing. So who is this "thou" and what makes him/her so "holy" anyways??? :-) -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet conn. sharing = big screwup! :-(
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 10:07 am, magnet wrote: > Glad you got it sorted Ronald. :) But I didn't. Well, I mean I returned my system to its prior status, I can ping between comps, NFS works again, etc, etc, but connection sharing is NOT working. SOwhat do I do to get connection sharing to work without screwing up all my existing settings? This worked fine under v8.2 Thanks. -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Update the kernel ?
Hello list. I just went to the Mandrake-Secure website. They offer an UPDATE to the kernel to fix various issues. That's strange, because I've always been told to INSTALL any new kernel. Opinions ? Kaj Haulrich. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GLX gears
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 09:51 am, et wrote: > I mailed her off list with the same basic answer, since i did not think > explaining a "pissing contest" was quite the approprite thing for a list > where the "moderator" (Todd Lyons I guess now) was attempting to keep it on > topic, and was pretty sure a pink haired women might not be able to > completely visualize "a pissing contest", since it really is a "man kinda > thing". Depends on whether or not she's uphill/upwind from you... -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT--the problem i have with email
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 7:16 pm, Benjamin Jeeves wrote: > Sorry but I think then maybe you need to try and read and re-read that > person Q b/c there might be like me Dyslexic or like you say not good at > english. I my not having a go but thing like that make me think 2 times > about wrtiing to groups like these > If you have been reading this group you will be aware that we have many posters who do not have english as a first language. Spelling and grammar are often faulty, but I don't remember a single time when that stopped us understanding at least part of what was intended. It's a simple enough matter then for us to ask for more information if it's needed, so you should never be put off writing to us. What is being discussed in this thread is when careless use of language makes it sound as though the writer is attacking someone, or thinks he knows the one and only way - and we all know that in linux there's no such thing :-) Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't find moc
On Wednesday February 5 2003 11:26 am, robin wrote: > Tom Brinkman wrote: > >>Just in case anyone else here wants to compile Qt apps, > >> installing kde-devel seems to do the trick. I was thrown by the > >> name - in other distros it seems to correspond to qt-devel. > >> > >>Sir Robin > > > > tom# urpmi kde-devel > > no package named kde-devel > > > >That's from a 9.1 mirror > > Sorry, my mistake. The full name of the package is > kdelibs-devel-3.0.3-30mdk > > I'm not saying with any certainty that this is the key, but it was > what worked for me. > > Now if I can get configure to recognise my X-devel libraries, I'll > be home free. > > > Sir Robin Sorry if my msg seemed terse. It got away fom me before I finished the sentence. So let me try again. 'That's from a 9.1 mirror', but I don't remember a plain kde-devel on older versions. Maybe you meant kdebase-devel, kdelibs-devel, or another kde*pkg-devel? I've found that sooner or later, most of the various kde*-devel pkgs are needed to compile some program or other. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet conn. sharing = big screwup! :-(
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 05:31 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: > OK going to ask a dumb question here. I've uninstalled stuff before that > LM installs. Stuff like Oh... hm... Kwrite? Or some audio program I don't > want/need? Always in the past it has occurred where as I am uninstalling, > a load of dependancies all of a sudden start saying "You can't do that or > XXX will break!" > > Um so is this teh case with Shorewall ? > - > FemmeFatale Femme, I didn't actually uninstall it, but I did turn it off in services. -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT--the problem i have with email
Sorry but I think then maybe you need to try and read and re-read that person Q b/c there might be like me Dyslexic or like you say not good at english. I my not having a go but thing like that make me think 2 times about wrtiing to groups like these On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 3:44 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote: > > 1-you cant see the expressions on the persons face when they type. > > Before you start typing e-mails, you have to be completely aware that > e-mail is a purely 'literal' form of communication. It sounds obvious, but > the problems arrive when you make a joke or remark with a meaning that only > makes sense/is understood correctly with a special tone of your voice, or > with a particular look on your face. Most kinds of jokes do not work over > e-mail. > > Hint: Re-read twice (or more) your message before you hit 'send', and try > to pretend it is a message you received. > > > 2-everyone misunderstands you b/c you cant see how they express > > themselves > > If unsure, ask people what they meant. Sometimes you are on the other side > of the situation and end up getting angry --or feeling insulted-- by > something that was meant to be a joke. Anyway, if the message you received > is not clear, always ask again. > > > 3-you cant see the exaggeration the person gives while saying anything > > I'm not sure what you mean by exaggeration, but if you are referring to > emphasis, most people like to use asterisks like *this*, or underscores, > like _this_ to give their sentences the needed meaning. It works pretty > well. > > There's another big problem with e-mail in this kind of lists (by 'this > kind' i mean lists populated by people from different countries whose > native language may not be english): Their knowledge of the english > language is not excellent, and they make mistakes. But this would happen > too if you were talking face-to-face with them, so please be patient. > > > 4-your just not in front of them > > Nothing beats face-to-face, huh? :o) > > > 5-most ppl think your a dumbass after send an email and you cant really > > justify a saying or sentence correctly > > Well, this sounds like a problem with the writer not being able to > express him/herself correctly, more than a problem with e-mail itself. > > > > Generally, when typing e-mail, it is a bad idea to use the words you > would use if you were talking. It takes some time to get used to it, > but it's really important especially if you are going to be read by people > that are not familiar with your way to express things (i.e. they don't > know you). > > > Damian -- Thank You Benjamin Jeeves Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT--the problem i have with email
> 1-you cant see the expressions on the persons face when they type. Before you start typing e-mails, you have to be completely aware that e-mail is a purely 'literal' form of communication. It sounds obvious, but the problems arrive when you make a joke or remark with a meaning that only makes sense/is understood correctly with a special tone of your voice, or with a particular look on your face. Most kinds of jokes do not work over e-mail. Hint: Re-read twice (or more) your message before you hit 'send', and try to pretend it is a message you received. > 2-everyone misunderstands you b/c you cant see how they express themselves If unsure, ask people what they meant. Sometimes you are on the other side of the situation and end up getting angry --or feeling insulted-- by something that was meant to be a joke. Anyway, if the message you received is not clear, always ask again. > 3-you cant see the exaggeration the person gives while saying anything I'm not sure what you mean by exaggeration, but if you are referring to emphasis, most people like to use asterisks like *this*, or underscores, like _this_ to give their sentences the needed meaning. It works pretty well. There's another big problem with e-mail in this kind of lists (by 'this kind' i mean lists populated by people from different countries whose native language may not be english): Their knowledge of the english language is not excellent, and they make mistakes. But this would happen too if you were talking face-to-face with them, so please be patient. > 4-your just not in front of them Nothing beats face-to-face, huh? :o) > 5-most ppl think your a dumbass after send an email and you cant really > justify a saying or sentence correctly Well, this sounds like a problem with the writer not being able to express him/herself correctly, more than a problem with e-mail itself. Generally, when typing e-mail, it is a bad idea to use the words you would use if you were talking. It takes some time to get used to it, but it's really important especially if you are going to be read by people that are not familiar with your way to express things (i.e. they don't know you). Damian -- -- I don't want Windows to be only for the 31173. Yes, we've come a long way from all those security holes, virii, and cryptic commands like "Edit textfile.txt" (what in the hell is that supposed to mean?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI: ONLY update installed packages?
I tried using the command you suggested but it was still asking to install dependacies and items such as samba. Did I do something wrong? Do I need to remove the other sources so it doesn't check for updates on those as well? I found a cron HOWTO and think I have the basic idea... but I dont' want to put it in there if it keeps trying to install unneeded software - and if it needs a confirmation --- Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 04 Feb 2003 9:31 pm, T E wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I just followed the instructions for Mandrake > URPMI > > updates on www.urpmi.org - and wow - if you > haven't > > already looked into this subject I highly suggest > it! > > > > My question is this: How can I setup a urpmi > update to > > happen ONLY to packages installed? In other > words, I > > don't want any extra packages installed... I > notice > > that when I use Mandrake Update items such as > Samba > > are included in the updates even though I do not > have > > it installed. It then demands to install > dependancies > > etc (this also happend with the commands shown > below). > > Since this is for a firewall, I do not want > anything > > extra on there at all. Also and ideally it would > run > > on its own (maybe in a "cron" job, however that > > happens?). > > > > BTW,I used the following commands to update urpmi: > > urmpi.addmedia PlzWork \ > > \ > > with ../base/hdlist.cz > > > > Then did urpmi.update -a > > and > > urpmi --auto-select > > > > ...it updated but threw in a bunch of extra crap > too! > > > > When you added the update source if you had used the > option > > urpmi.addmedia --update PlzWork ftp site of choice > with ../base/hdlist.cz > > Then the source will be an "update" source which > means you can use the command > > urpmi --update --auto-select > and then only update sources will be considered when > pulling packages. > > The way you did it, then any package which has a > newer version on any of the > sources will have been updated. But it will not have > installed anything that > was not already there. > > Now you have seen the wonders of urpmi, go here > http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php and get more > fun sources. > > derek > > > -- > -- > www.jennings.homelinux.net > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will be ignored
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:49:35 -0600, "Robert Wideman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Cant we all just get along instead of misinterpreting suggestions? > Rob Fine. An avalanche of un-birthday Linux-kisses for everyone! -- cervixcouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will be ignored
Ok. The way i should have put it is: If you are like me then you should quit trying every text editor out there. And/or taken what i stated earlier as a suggestion, not as something i am DEMANDING you to do which is NOT its purpose. Cant we all just get along instead of misinterpreting suggestions? Rob >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of cervixcouch >> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:37 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: RE: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will >> be ignored >> >> >> On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:18:59 -0600, "Robert Wideman" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > Dood, your taking it the wrong way. I wasnt telling you what to do. >> >I know >> > how everyone else is and i am the same way. I dont learn something >> > unless i >> > stick with one way to do it. If i try 5 different ways to do something >> > then >> > i can do a basic, if i stick with one way then i understand it a lot >> > more. >> > Its like programming, if you try all languages then you have tried them >> > all, >> > ifyou stick with one then you KNOW one inside and out. I >> personally just >> > stopped using all editors except for VI. If you want to keep >> trying them >> > all then go ahead. Have at it. No sweat of my back. >> >> fine. most people presumably operate the same way. >> >> But like Anne told you earlier, you need to watch your mouth! >> -- >> cervixcouch >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> -- >> http://fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service? >> >> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT--the problem i have with email
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 11:25 am, Robert Wideman wrote: > 1-you cant see the expressions on the persons face when they type. > 2-everyone misunderstands you b/c you cant see how they express > themselves 3-you cant see the exaggeration the person gives while > saying anything 4-your just not in front of them > 5-most ppl think your a dumbass after send an email and you cant > really justify a saying or sentence correctly Yeah, I get that too! in empathy, -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will be ignored
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:18:59 -0600, "Robert Wideman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Dood, your taking it the wrong way. I wasnt telling you what to do. >I know > how everyone else is and i am the same way. I dont learn something > unless i > stick with one way to do it. If i try 5 different ways to do something > then > i can do a basic, if i stick with one way then i understand it a lot > more. > Its like programming, if you try all languages then you have tried them > all, > ifyou stick with one then you KNOW one inside and out. I personally just > stopped using all editors except for VI. If you want to keep trying them > all then go ahead. Have at it. No sweat of my back. fine. most people presumably operate the same way. But like Anne told you earlier, you need to watch your mouth! -- cervixcouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT--the problem i have with email
1-you cant see the expressions on the persons face when they type. 2-everyone misunderstands you b/c you cant see how they express themselves 3-you cant see the exaggeration the person gives while saying anything 4-your just not in front of them 5-most ppl think your a dumbass after send an email and you cant really justify a saying or sentence correctly Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't find moc
Tom Brinkman wrote: Just in case anyone else here wants to compile Qt apps, installing kde-devel seems to do the trick. I was thrown by the name - in other distros it seems to correspond to qt-devel. Sir Robin tom# urpmi kde-devel no package named kde-devel That's from a 9.1 mirror Sorry, my mistake. The full name of the package is kdelibs-devel-3.0.3-30mdk I'm not saying with any certainty that this is the key, but it was what worked for me. Now if I can get configure to recognise my X-devel libraries, I'll be home free. Sir Robin -- " Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and picke quarrells." - G. Pettie Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will be ignored
>> Don't tell me "quit trying every text editor out there". I'll try out as >> many text editors as I care to and there's NOTHING wrong with that. Never said there was. >> You tried one and stuck with it? well bully for you! Bully for me? WTF does that mean? Must be a European saying!?!? >> Now why don't you go take a nap or something. HEHE, i need to. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will be ignored
Dood, your taking it the wrong way. I wasnt telling you what to do. I know how everyone else is and i am the same way. I dont learn something unless i stick with one way to do it. If i try 5 different ways to do something then i can do a basic, if i stick with one way then i understand it a lot more. Its like programming, if you try all languages then you have tried them all, ifyou stick with one then you KNOW one inside and out. I personally just stopped using all editors except for VI. If you want to keep trying them all then go ahead. Have at it. No sweat of my back. Rob >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of cervixcouch >> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:09 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: RE: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will >> be ignored >> >> >> On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:32:49 -0600, "Robert Wideman" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > Personally, I love VI. I used PICO first but found VI easier to deal >> > with >> > sometimes. Also, quit trying every text editor out there. >> Just use one >> > and >> > one only. >> >Thats what i did with VI, and i only know about 10 commands in >> > the program.very small compared to what it actually does. >> >> >> Yo! Put it on ice!!! >> >> Don't tell me "quit trying every text editor out there". I'll try out as >> many text editors as I care to and there's NOTHING wrong with that. >> >> You tried one and stuck with it? well bully for you! >> >> Now why don't you go take a nap or something. >> -- >> cervixcouch >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> -- >> http://fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be >> >> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will be ignored
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:32:49 -0600, "Robert Wideman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Personally, I love VI. I used PICO first but found VI easier to deal > with > sometimes. Also, quit trying every text editor out there. Just use one > and > one only. >Thats what i did with VI, and i only know about 10 commands in > the program.very small compared to what it actually does. Yo! Put it on ice!!! Don't tell me "quit trying every text editor out there". I'll try out as many text editors as I care to and there's NOTHING wrong with that. You tried one and stuck with it? well bully for you! Now why don't you go take a nap or something. -- cervixcouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Adobe
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 11:02, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 10:46 am, robin wrote: > > Sorry about the typo - it should have been "pdftotext" not "pdftetext". > > > > Sir Robin > > A google on pdf2txt. pdf2html or pdf2rtf will bring up many links. > > Anne I heard somewhere that the next stable version of koffice will have pdf-import capabilities. I dunno about you guys, but i'm eager to see how good it works :o) Damian -- -- I don't want Windows to be only for the 31173. Yes, we've come a long way from all those security holes, virii, and cryptic commands like "Edit textfile.txt" (what in the hell is that supposed to mean?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 02:36 pm, Len Lawrence wrote: > OK, time to learn how to burn CDs. 40x 80 min CDRs. I have tried out > gcombust, gtoaster, and looked at eroaster and settled for GNOME > toaster. A clear, friendly interface, apart from the drag-and-drop > feature for selecting directories. I am only interested in data CDs, > preferably multisession, but have not been able to get multisession > working properly. First attempt started without the multisession > option - you can't invoke it for a second track. Fair enough. Second > attempt; first track OK, mounted and read OK. Second track went on > but did not seem to have much data. Third track written apparently > but by then the disk was unusable - could not be mounted (on my DVD > drive) although gtoaster reported three tracks. All the writing was > done at 8x after hints in the list about reliability at lower speeds. > On another CD I wrote about 500 Mb, specifying multisession at the > start. That one is OK but the program cannot write any more tracks. > "No usable tracks found" - something like that. So, what is the > secret to burning multisession CDRs? > > I wondered if it had anything to do with fixating. Gtoaster enforces > fixate for track at once recording. Could not find out what fixate > meant, but found a reference in a freeBSD man page on the net which > indicated that it has to do with writing a table of contents to the > disk. Does fixating (fixation?) make the disk unwritable once it is > done? Are there any in depth descriptions of CD recording anywhere? > Most of the documentation seems to be operational, not explanatory. Ummm if you do multisession CDs, only the drive that is making them can read them until you have closed all sessions and fixated the disk. That is the way it works. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie]
Nero is all i have used since v3 came out, like when 1x burners came outand now it works with my DVD+RW, waho. Nero is one of the first programs to utilize the HW features of the burners from what i have seen, anyway, this is OT. I hated Adaptecs software and everyone elses. Just my 2 cents morenow upto 4 cents. Rob >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anne Wilson >> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:20 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [newbie] >> >> >> On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 2:14 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: >> > MMM, I dont know about this Finalize thing. I use Nero for >> Winbloz and I >> > do NOT have to finalize a cd in order to read it on another machine w/o >> > Nero. I can even see the files in Linux boxes no problem. >> > Just my 2 cents on this issue. >> >> Nero definitely has a place to specify whether a disk is >> finalized or not. I >> can't comment on whether the disks are readable elsewhere - I >> only know that >> others have found this not to be so. >> >> Anne >> -- >> Registered Linux User No.293302 >> >> >> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will be ignored
Personally, I love VI. I used PICO first but found VI easier to deal with sometimes. Also, quit trying every text editor out there. Just use one and one only. Thats what i did with VI, and i only know about 10 commands in the program.very small compared to what it actually does. You just have to learn how it works and then you will understand and use it much faster. Rob >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of cervixcouch >> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:10 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will >> be ignored >> >> >> I've tried learning vi but dealing with the modes and such really put me >> off and the tutorials I found weren't written very well. Maybe I'll try >> again at some point, since vi seems so universal, but for now I mostly >> stick with kedit or emacs to do file editing. >> >> The main thing I like about emacs is that if I need to type something in >> Chinese I can do so using a variety of input methods. It isn't so much of >> an issue for me now that I'm using Mandrake 9.0 but when I had 7.2, emacs >> was the easiest way for me to read the Chinese newsgroups. >> -- >> cervixcouch >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> -- >> http://fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own >> >> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OptimalJ a Java IDE
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 11:12 am, David Seuferer wrote: > /home/seuferer/OptimalJ-PE/install.log is that the file you are quoteing from? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OptimalJ a Java IDE
All it said was that the license failed to install even though it never asked me for a license file. I have a log file that says: (Feb 4, 2003 7:52:58 AM), Setup.product.install, com.installshield.product.service.product.PureJavaProductServiceImpl$DiskSpaceCheck, wrn, Checking required disk space requires file service native support. (Feb 4, 2003 7:53:22 AM), Setup.product.install, com.installshield.product.actions.Files, wrn, Cannot set file attributes: operation is not supported by the current file service implementation. (Feb 4, 2003 7:53:22 AM), Setup.product.install, com.installshield.product.actions.Files, wrn, Cannot set file times: operation is not supported by the current file service implementation. (Feb 4, 2003 7:53:22 AM), Setup.product.install, com.compuware.altura.imp4beans.actions.InstallLicense, err, License install failed. Look at the log file /home/seuferer/OptimalJ-PE/install.log for details. (Feb 4, 2003 7:53:22 AM), Setup.product.install, com.compuware.altura.imp4beans.actions.InstallLicense, err, ProductException: (error code = 601; message="Failed to install license, reason = -1 cmd = /home/seuferer/OptimalJ-PE/cslm/installtime/ojlicins OptimalJ 02.01entered try exception type: class java.io.IOException message: /home/seuferer/OptimalJ-PE/cslm/installtime/ojlicins: cannot execute ") Hope that helps. David Seuferer, CNE Ames Laboratory Information Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax: (515) 294-5638 phone: (515) 294-6053 "It comes in pints!?"Pippin >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/05/03 09:31AM >>> first, I don't know doodly about "OptimalJ a Java IDE" but what errors did it give? On Wednesday 05 February 2003 10:09 am, David Seuferer wrote: > Hello, > I'm using Mandrake 9.0 and have been trying to install OptimalJ > version 2.1.04 and haven't had much luck. Just got done talking to > Compuware, the company that makes OptimalJ, and they said it > won't install on Mandrake, but it would install on Red Hat. I thought > that if it ran on Red Hat it would run on Mandrake. Anyone know > why OptimalJ won't install? The person I talked to didn't know why > it wouldn't install. He was just passing the message on to me. > > > > > David Seuferer, CNE > Ames Laboratory > Information Systems > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > fax: (515) 294-5638 > phone: (515) 294-6053 > > > "It comes in pints!?"Pippin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I am braindead
Join the club LOL Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I am braindead
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 10:42 am, Anders wrote: > My problem is solved and I am gonna let you laugh a bit at my > expense, I took the wrong bootdisk, no wonder it complained about > not finding An Ext2-partition. > > I wish I could go to bed and just go between the sheets and sleep > > Cheers > Anders next time,,, instead of a new subjuct, why not add it to the same subject line you used before? that way it shows in the threaded view in the archives?/? I just did it for this thread Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing,, also Re: [newbie] I am braindead
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 08:30 am, et wrote: > On Wednesday 05 February 2003 07:53 am, Anders wrote: > > Hello folks, > > > > I have a bit of a dilemma, I want to install Mandrake on a box > > where I have a UFS-filesystem from an old BSD-system, does anyone > > know of a way around this without having to use FIPS or so. > > > > Cheers Anders > > start (boot) from the cd the install (as expert) will bring up diskdrake, > and you can screw with the filesystems all you like... I think you might > even be able to install on a UFS file system, but you would like reiser or > other Journaling file system more, I bet. On Wednesday 05 February 2003 10:42 am, Anders wrote: > My problem is solved and I am gonna let you laugh a bit at my > expense, I took the wrong bootdisk, no wonder it complained about > not finding An Ext2-partition. > > I wish I could go to bed and just go between the sheets and sleep > > Cheers > Anders next time,,, instead of a new subjuct, why not add it to the same subject line you used before? that way it shows in the threaded view in the archives?/? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] I am braindead
My problem is solved and I am gonna let you laugh a bit at my expense, I took the wrong bootdisk, no wonder it complained about not finding An Ext2-partition. I wish I could go to bed and just go between the sheets and sleep Cheers Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GLX gears
et? Is $94.00 Canadian high-dollar? Call me crazy, but I think it's pretty low for current video cards. But I think the results are somewhat skewed from my glxgears test, since this motherboards also has 8X AGP. Oh, by the way, I'm running at 1280x1024 at 24 bit color in a full screen mode. P.S. Nice use of the quotation marks. Lanman On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 10:26, et wrote: > On Wednesday 05 February 2003 10:13 am, Lanman wrote: > > Using an AthlonXP 1800+ with 1 Gb of DDR Ram and an ATi Radeon 9000 with > > 64 Mb of on-board DDR I got the following reply on glxgears; > Is this good? > who knows,,, what is "good",,, what is "this",,, what is "is" > what do you get full screen, and how many colors, and is the system and card > using ddr memory or what kinda memory? what processes are running in the > background. I say with that high dolllar video card,,, damn well better be. > > When my father would come home very late at night,,, after "working late"... > my mother would ask "Eddie, is that you?" and he would always answer "damn > well better be". > damn we have some nice video cards, even the folks with to small a > peni. thing,,, to show have better video and memory than most of the > computers in most compaines I see. (of course, if it was a "good computer", I > would never be asked to take a look at it). > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GLX gears (wanna see BAD?)
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 10:06 am, Sabin, Matthew wrote: > I have an everything-but-the-kitchen-sink motherboard and can't always tell > if my video issues are hardware, software or operator problems. > > This test is hardly telling, but it will give me another data point. > > glxgears won't run yet -- missing GLX on display 0.0 what video card? needs at least 4 megs ( I think) memory on the card to begine to do 3d, Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Vi vs Emacs... Not a flamewar!!! Any flames will be ignored
I've tried learning vi but dealing with the modes and such really put me off and the tutorials I found weren't written very well. Maybe I'll try again at some point, since vi seems so universal, but for now I mostly stick with kedit or emacs to do file editing. The main thing I like about emacs is that if I need to type something in Chinese I can do so using a variety of input methods. It isn't so much of an issue for me now that I'm using Mandrake 9.0 but when I had 7.2, emacs was the easiest way for me to read the Chinese newsgroups. -- cervixcouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 08:50, et wrote: > On Tuesday 04 February 2003 06:36 pm, Len Lawrence wrote: > > OK, time to learn how to burn CDs. 40x 80 min CDRs. I have tried out > > gcombust, gtoaster, and looked at eroaster and settled for GNOME > > toaster. A clear, friendly interface, apart from the drag-and-drop > > feature for selecting directories. I am only interested in data CDs, > > preferably multisession, but have not been able to get multisession > > working properly. First attempt started without the multisession > > option - you can't invoke it for a second track. Fair enough. Second > > attempt; first track OK, mounted and read OK. Second track went on > > but did not seem to have much data. Third track written apparently > > but by then the disk was unusable - could not be mounted (on my DVD > > drive) although gtoaster reported three tracks. All the writing was > > done at 8x after hints in the list about reliability at lower speeds. > > On another CD I wrote about 500 Mb, specifying multisession at the > > start. That one is OK but the program cannot write any more tracks. > > "No usable tracks found" - something like that. So, what is the > > secret to burning multisession CDRs? > > > > I wondered if it had anything to do with fixating. Gtoaster enforces > > fixate for track at once recording. Could not find out what fixate > > meant, but found a reference in a freeBSD man page on the net which > > indicated that it has to do with writing a table of contents to the > > disk. Does fixating (fixation?) make the disk unwritable once it is > > done? Are there any in depth descriptions of CD recording anywhere? > > Most of the documentation seems to be operational, not explanatory. > fixate is the end of being able to write more in a multisession, and I if you > have experience in E-Z cd creator for winblow$, then you know fixate as > "finalize the cd". you will not be able to read or mount a cd in a different > drive until it has been fixated. just as a multisession cd written in EZcd > will not be readable from a computer that does not have EZcd installed. > As far as i know, most all GUIs for burning CDs are just that, a graphic user > interface for the command line programs "cdrecord" (and a few others like > cddao, that work with cdrecord), and I am sure a lot of folks (and it has > been gone over here a lot, so a quick search of the mail list archives will > bring much more info) will offer you their command line that they use to burn > CDs. but in a text console, "man cdrecord" might be your friend. also some > folks find k3b to be a "usable front end" Has anyone else tried CDBakeoven? Like everyone else, I hate losing CD blanks to a GUI or app that coughs up a hairball. After having tried all the ones on the Mandrake CD's and a few others, I've settled on CDBakeoven. It works very similarly to EZCD Creator, and also detects both IDE and SCSI emulated drives. I haven't tried K3B, but I will soon. If it gives me the same errors that I've seen posted on this list, it'll be dropped faster that a hot potato! One thing with CDBakeoven though,..the only version that seems to work well on KDE3.x is 1.8.9-4 . All others either don't work due to a dependency on linpng2 or get installed in the /opt/kde3 directory, and then just don't work for one reason or another. Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 06:36 pm, Len Lawrence wrote: > OK, time to learn how to burn CDs. 40x 80 min CDRs. I have tried out > gcombust, gtoaster, and looked at eroaster and settled for GNOME > toaster. A clear, friendly interface, apart from the drag-and-drop > feature for selecting directories. I am only interested in data CDs, > preferably multisession, but have not been able to get multisession > working properly. First attempt started without the multisession > option - you can't invoke it for a second track. Fair enough. Second > attempt; first track OK, mounted and read OK. Second track went on > but did not seem to have much data. Third track written apparently > but by then the disk was unusable - could not be mounted (on my DVD > drive) although gtoaster reported three tracks. All the writing was > done at 8x after hints in the list about reliability at lower speeds. > On another CD I wrote about 500 Mb, specifying multisession at the > start. That one is OK but the program cannot write any more tracks. > "No usable tracks found" - something like that. So, what is the > secret to burning multisession CDRs? > > I wondered if it had anything to do with fixating. Gtoaster enforces > fixate for track at once recording. Could not find out what fixate > meant, but found a reference in a freeBSD man page on the net which > indicated that it has to do with writing a table of contents to the > disk. Does fixating (fixation?) make the disk unwritable once it is > done? Are there any in depth descriptions of CD recording anywhere? > Most of the documentation seems to be operational, not explanatory. fixate is the end of being able to write more in a multisession, and I if you have experience in E-Z cd creator for winblow$, then you know fixate as "finalize the cd". you will not be able to read or mount a cd in a different drive until it has been fixated. just as a multisession cd written in EZcd will not be readable from a computer that does not have EZcd installed. As far as i know, most all GUIs for burning CDs are just that, a graphic user interface for the command line programs "cdrecord" (and a few others like cddao, that work with cdrecord), and I am sure a lot of folks (and it has been gone over here a lot, so a quick search of the mail list archives will bring much more info) will offer you their command line that they use to burn CDs. but in a text console, "man cdrecord" might be your friend. also some folks find k3b to be a "usable front end" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bugzilla (bitch session)
On Tuesday February 4 2003 11:04 pm, Miark wrote: > > I'm installed beta3 on a test machine, but when I go to the > Mandrake bugzilla site, the site screams, "We're doing everything > we can to make feedback frustrating. Leave now." So I go to the > documentation, and it's a mile long. > > Mandrake didn't write Bugzilla--I know. But I wish they'd do > something to make it a fraction as user friendly as the distro > itself. They should have brief hints/tips on the search page > itself, and a FAQ to handle questions not related to bugzilla > itself. If I calm down, I may try and read through the > documentation, but at this point I'm too pissed off and short on > time. > > > Okay. Now can somebody tell me who I contact to make suggestions > on wording and other usability issues? > > Miark Actually your rant is pretty much on target, and even the developers realize it. They're tryin to improve bugzilla. In the meantime a post to the cooker list will most likely yield better results. It's really only viable if you're subscribed to cooker tho. Which you should do anyhow if you're runnin cooker. For a bug FAQ, http://leon.brooks.fdns.net/Mandrake/bugFAQ.html -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 12:57 pm, Lanman wrote: > t has anyone ever > considered using Samba instead of NFS? > Thanks for that, Lanman. I was expecting to get another linux box on the net sometime in the next week or two (this is the only one at present) and thought I would have to go down the nfs route. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] A small doubt about MDK9.0
Greeting All, I bought a new computer and I need your suggestion to install MDK 9.0. This PC: 2x Athlon MP 2000+; Asus MB A7m266-d, This MB uses an onboard C-Media 8738 audio controller; 512 Ram DDR; Nvidea GeForce4 MX 400 whith TV; 2x HD 60Gb 7.200 RPM <- in a near future I intend buy one more HD and use this in a RAID system. Can I do this? LG Ethernet card 10/100; All my friend asked me to install RedHat but I prefer MDK, it have more programs, manuals, options to config. all programs and system. My doubts: What I need to do to optimize Kernel configurations to this machine? In RedHat You can use up2date command to upgrade your system, have MDK9 this same facility? Thanks in Advace. = []'s Lucio Costa Linux user #204519 "We do what we can, we give what we have Our doubt is our passion and our passion is our task The rest is the madness of art." ___ Busca Yahoo! O serviço de busca mais completo da Internet. O que você pensar o Yahoo! encontra. http://br.busca.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: Re: [newbie] Installing
>start (boot) from the cd the install (as expert) will bring up diskdrake, a >nd >you can screw with the filesystems all you like... I think you might even b >e >able to install on a UFS file system, but you would like reiser or other >Journaling file system more, I bet. I don't have a CD in this box, but I boot from a bootdisc, the problem is that I get a kernel panic message and that the bootdisc complains that it doesn't find an Ext2-partition. Cheers Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anne, and others
Can't be all that bad, you're using Linux, aren't you? That and a good cup of coffee, and bang! Instant great life! Of course, there's always a few hiccups in that theory! Later et! Let us know when you get the rest of the letters of your handle figured out! LOL! Lanman On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 08:25, et wrote: > On Wednesday 05 February 2003 07:59 am, Lanman wrote: > > Not me Anne! I prefer to have bad weeks! Seems to work, too! At least I > > can schedule it now! LOL! > > > > Lanman > weeks,,, heck I just thought this was a bad lifetime, and the next one should > be better > > > > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 07:26, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 12:24 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: > > > > Sorry for previous emails. I am just in a weird mood, not trying to > > > > make anyone pissed. I should have just shift-deleted the emails > > > > instead of replying.my bad > > > > > > Fair enough - we all have bad days. > > > > > > Anne > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 07:53 am, Anders wrote: > Hello folks, > > I have a bit of a dilemma, I want to install Mandrake on a box > where I have a UFS-filesystem from an old BSD-system, does anyone > know of a way around this without having to use FIPS or so. > > Cheers Anders start (boot) from the cd the install (as expert) will bring up diskdrake, and you can screw with the filesystems all you like... I think you might even be able to install on a UFS file system, but you would like reiser or other Journaling file system more, I bet. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anne, and others
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 07:59 am, Lanman wrote: > Not me Anne! I prefer to have bad weeks! Seems to work, too! At least I > can schedule it now! LOL! > > Lanman weeks,,, heck I just thought this was a bad lifetime, and the next one should be better > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 07:26, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 12:24 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: > > > Sorry for previous emails. I am just in a weird mood, not trying to > > > make anyone pissed. I should have just shift-deleted the emails > > > instead of replying.my bad > > > > Fair enough - we all have bad days. > > > > Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
>> Um, Just wanted to jump in here, before everyone starts exchanging hugs >> and kisses (I hate it when things get mushy!), but has anyone ever >> considered using Samba instead of NFS? Yes, been there done that. Switching to totally *NIX systems thought and dont want to run SMB only for one system. >> My biggest problem with NFS was shutting down a client. NFS would >> normally hang the shutdown procedure, and I would have to reset the >> system, with the usual rebuilding of the JFS upon restart. Once I had >> the mountscript nailed, I shutdown "autofs, nfs, portmap, and >> netfslock", and everything's been 100% ever since. Cool will have to look into it when i need to shut my *NIX systems downsomething only needed for kernel updates for me. >> Of course, if you've already solved the problem, or resolved your >> personal conflicts, please disregard this notice ! LOL! HEHE. Thanks for the info. It is appreciated by more than just me...i know this b/c i learn something new on 50% of the emails that come through on this list. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to get MyODBC (to work) on Mandrake 9.0?
Hmm, found it (I hope), apparently it's called /usr/lib/libodbcmyS.so. Why isn't it something like libmyodbc.so (as in another RPM I tried, to motivate why I didn't "find / -name \*myodbc\*", or \*MyODBC\*), why does gODBCConfig already know about PostgreSQL but not about MyODBC (suggestion), why did the errors appear with the other RPMs I tried (real question, but not relevant anymore)? Oh well... at least I've got past that hurdle. -- Raf P.S.: Thanks to Adolfo Bello for trying to help, but hopefully it's OK now. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anne, and others
Not me Anne! I prefer to have bad weeks! Seems to work, too! At least I can schedule it now! LOL! Lanman On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 07:26, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 12:24 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: > > Sorry for previous emails. I am just in a weird mood, not trying to make > > anyone pissed. I should have just shift-deleted the emails instead of > > replying.my bad > > Fair enough - we all have bad days. > > Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sound Card SB16
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 12:40 pm, Frans Ketelaars wrote: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:06:41 -0800 (PST) > > omnimodeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i have sound blaster 16 isa and i dont know how to > > install it...please help > > Try running 'sndconfig' as root :) You must have the sndconfig RPM > installed. > You might find these useful: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/mdoc/user/harddrake.html http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/troubles/tqhvit1.html Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
Um, Just wanted to jump in here, before everyone starts exchanging hugs and kisses (I hate it when things get mushy!), but has anyone ever considered using Samba instead of NFS? Up until a few months ago, I was using both Samba ans NFS because of a few dual-boot systems I had in my network. I didn't like the idea of running 2 file-sharing systems on my network, so I had a look at the latest LinNeighborhood to see if it had improved from a year or two ago. Surprise of surprises, it not only worked pretty darned good, but it has a neat little utility built-in that will write a "Mount Script". Once that is written, you no longer need LinNeighborhood at all! The mountscript becomes a desktop icon which can activated on demand. By copying it to your users "desktop" folder, and modifying the permissions of the icon, you can connect to your samba shares instantly. The shares will remain connected for as long as you're logged in, and work flawlessly! My biggest problem with NFS was shutting down a client. NFS would normally hang the shutdown procedure, and I would have to reset the system, with the usual rebuilding of the JFS upon restart. Once I had the mountscript nailed, I shutdown "autofs, nfs, portmap, and netfslock", and everything's been 100% ever since. Seems there is a happy compromise between GUI and C/L after all! Now, I use only Samba on my server, which of course, lightens the load on the server, and simplifies the setup of services as well. Oh, Yeah, and no more lockups on the client-side either. Of course, if you've already solved the problem, or resolved your personal conflicts, please disregard this notice ! LOL! Lanman On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 07:36, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 12:30 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: > > >> I don't need Outlook for that (and for the record I've never > > >> used it). I > > >> merely ask that you be considerate in your language. There isn't really > > >> anything else to say. > > > > Plus...today is a continuation of yesterdayi didnt go to sleep last > > nite...it is 6:30 AM CST here in Austin, TX. > > > That never helps. Haven't you noticed how often you go to sleep with a > problem on your mind and wake up with the solution? > > Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installing
Hello folks, I have a bit of a dilemma, I want to install Mandrake on a box where I have a UFS-filesystem from an old BSD-system, does anyone know of a way around this without having to use FIPS or so. Cheers Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sound Card SB16
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 01:06 am, omnimodeus wrote: > i have sound blaster 16 isa and i dont know how to > install it...please help > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com I take it that you already have installed the card in the computer to an open ISA slot, and you do not have any sound. do this, at the same time hit ctrl+Alt+f3, login as root, type "sndconfig" if this is not installed you will have to install it with "urpmi sndconfig". follow the directions and you will even get to hear the correct pronounseation for "linux", from Linus Torvalds his self Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sound Card SB16
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:06:41 -0800 (PST) omnimodeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i have sound blaster 16 isa and i dont know how to > install it...please help Try running 'sndconfig' as root :) You must have the sndconfig RPM installed. HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 12:30 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: > >> I don't need Outlook for that (and for the record I've never > >> used it). I > >> merely ask that you be considerate in your language. There isn't really > >> anything else to say. > > Plus...today is a continuation of yesterdayi didnt go to sleep last > nite...it is 6:30 AM CST here in Austin, TX. > That never helps. Haven't you noticed how often you go to sleep with a problem on your mind and wake up with the solution? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
>> I don't need Outlook for that (and for the record I've never >> used it). I >> merely ask that you be considerate in your language. There isn't really >> anything else to say. Plus...today is a continuation of yesterdayi didnt go to sleep last nite...it is 6:30 AM CST here in Austin, TX. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anne, and others
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 12:24 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: > Sorry for previous emails. I am just in a weird mood, not trying to make > anyone pissed. I should have just shift-deleted the emails instead of > replying.my bad Fair enough - we all have bad days. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 12:21 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: > You seem to be the one that is pissed. Not me. > Anne, If your using Outlook just do a shift-delete on this email and dont > reply back. I don't need Outlook for that (and for the record I've never used it). I merely ask that you be considerate in your language. There isn't really anything else to say. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 12:21 pm, et wrote: > ehhh.. I am the only one allowed to be holier-than-thou,,, and if you don't > believe me,,, just wait till my wife gets up and she will tell you the same > thing. LOL Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Anne, and others
Sorry for previous emails. I am just in a weird mood, not trying to make anyone pissed. I should have just shift-deleted the emails instead of replying.my bad Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
You seem to be the one that is pissed. Not me. Anne, If your using Outlook just do a shift-delete on this email and dont reply back. >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anne Wilson >> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:16 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update >> >> >> On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 12:05 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: >> > This was NOT a holier-than-thou attitude. I just dont feel >> right doing it >> > GUI style since i learned Linux CLI. >> >> Fine, but a more polite way would have been to ask for a C/L >> solution. This >> is often described as a tolerant list, and manners do help. >> >> Anne >> -- >> Registered Linux User No.293302 >> >> >> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
ehhh.. I am the only one allowed to be holier-than-thou,,, and if you don't believe me,,, just wait till my wife gets up and she will tell you the same thing. On Wednesday 05 February 2003 07:05 am, Robert Wideman wrote: > This was NOT a holier-than-thou attitude. I just dont feel right doing it > GUI style since i learned Linux CLI. > Rob > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anne Wilson > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:00 AM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Re: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update > >> > >> On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 11:17 am, Robert Wideman wrote: > >> > You might have missed my previous posting stating i figured > >> > >> out that i had > >> > >> > to add the computer in /etc/hosts. > >> > > >> > >> Good God man! you're doing it the hard way! > >> > > >> > I prefer the hard way. > >> > > >> > >> 1) on the server running NFS ( exporting the filesystems ) > >> > >> start Linux conf->Networking-> > >> > > >> > Network-> what else? > >> > > >> > I know where your going with this anyway... > >> > It would just be easier to (as root) type "netconf" in CLI. > >> > >> Seeing i am > >> > >> > never "logged in" as root, only my user, then i "su -" and do > >> > >> everything > >> > >> > from that. > >> > ALso, if i do it GUI then i feel like i am doing a MS way. It > >> > >> just doesnt > >> > >> > feel correct doing a REAL OS via GUIserver tasks that is. > >> > >> Sorry, but this holier-than-thou attitude is wrong. The right way to do > >> anything is the way that works for you. Linux us about choice. > >> > >> Anne > >> -- > >> Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 12:05 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: > This was NOT a holier-than-thou attitude. I just dont feel right doing it > GUI style since i learned Linux CLI. Fine, but a more polite way would have been to ask for a C/L solution. This is often described as a tolerant list, and manners do help. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to get MyODBC (to work) on Mandrake 9.0?
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 06:28, Raf Schietekat wrote: > Mandrake 9.0 comes with MySQL and with unixODBC, but I don't see a > MyODBC driver anywhere? Did I overlook something, because this seems > rather strange. > > When I install a MyODBC driver from www.MySQL.com (2.50.39-1, Linux x86 > RPM), or even MyODBC-unixODBC-2.50.39-93 found through rpmseek.com, and > try to create a User DSN with gODBCConfig, I get the following error > when selecting the MyODBC driver: "Could not construct a property list > for (MyODBC)". > > What should I do to be able to use an ODBC interface to MySQL (for lack > of a database-neutral interface without the Microsoft stigma attached to > it)? > > Thanks. Could you post your /etc/odbc.ini and odbcinst.ini? What directory is MyODBC installed in? I recommend you to edit directly odbc.ini and odbcinst.ini, and trying to connect with "isql db user password -v". In this case, could you post the entire output? -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
This was NOT a holier-than-thou attitude. I just dont feel right doing it GUI style since i learned Linux CLI. Rob >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anne Wilson >> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:00 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update >> >> >> On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 11:17 am, Robert Wideman wrote: >> > You might have missed my previous posting stating i figured >> out that i had >> > to add the computer in /etc/hosts. >> > >> > >> Good God man! you're doing it the hard way! >> > >> > I prefer the hard way. >> > >> > >> 1) on the server running NFS ( exporting the filesystems ) >> > >> start Linux conf->Networking-> >> > >> > Network-> what else? >> > >> > I know where your going with this anyway... >> > It would just be easier to (as root) type "netconf" in CLI. >> Seeing i am >> > never "logged in" as root, only my user, then i "su -" and do >> everything >> > from that. >> > ALso, if i do it GUI then i feel like i am doing a MS way. It >> just doesnt >> > feel correct doing a REAL OS via GUIserver tasks that is. >> > >> Sorry, but this holier-than-thou attitude is wrong. The right way to do >> anything is the way that works for you. Linux us about choice. >> >> Anne >> -- >> Registered Linux User No.293302 >> >> >> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NFS after MDK9 reinstall/update
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 11:17 am, Robert Wideman wrote: > You might have missed my previous posting stating i figured out that i had > to add the computer in /etc/hosts. > > >> Good God man! you're doing it the hard way! > > I prefer the hard way. > > >> 1) on the server running NFS ( exporting the filesystems ) > >> start Linux conf->Networking-> > > Network-> what else? > > I know where your going with this anyway... > It would just be easier to (as root) type "netconf" in CLI. Seeing i am > never "logged in" as root, only my user, then i "su -" and do everything > from that. > ALso, if i do it GUI then i feel like i am doing a MS way. It just doesnt > feel correct doing a REAL OS via GUIserver tasks that is. > Sorry, but this holier-than-thou attitude is wrong. The right way to do anything is the way that works for you. Linux us about choice. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet conn. sharing = big screwup! :-(
On Tue, 04 Feb 2003 15:31:58 -0700 FemmeFatale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >snip > OK going to ask a dumb question here. I've uninstalled stuff before that > LM installs. Stuff like Oh... hm... Kwrite? Or some audio program I don't > want/need? Always in the past it has occurred where as I am uninstalling, > a load of dependancies all of a sudden start saying "You can't do that or > XXX will break!" > > Um so is this teh case with Shorewall ? > - > FemmeFatale > I uninstalled shorewall with no problems whatsoever HTH Jerry. -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (¬_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
