Re: [newbie] Easy way to update Gaim to 0.70?

2003-10-12 Thread HaywireMac
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 23:08:14 -0400
Guy Rouillier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> I don't use urmpi, but rather the Mandrake GUI, so I added these 
> directly to the Software Sources Manager.  Then I went into Install 
> Software, and searched for "gaim" - no hits.  Why aren't I seeing gaim
> 
> 0.70?  Do I need to uninstall 0.68 first?

All I did was:

urpme gaim (I had 0.68 installed)

urpmi.update -a

urpmi gaim

and I now have Texstars 0.71 installed :-)

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Re: [newbie] gaim-0.71

2003-10-12 Thread HaywireMac
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:41:19 +
Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> I have an irc account but have never used it, no buddies )-: 

How does that work? For IRC, you don't need a password or anything,
right? Just a server to connect to?

It defaults to irc.freenode.net, so will anyone who knows my nick be
able to find me?

BTW, I'm also on ICQ, 279518458.

Like you, I am buddyless :-(

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Re: [newbie] Easy way to update Gaim to 0.70?

2003-10-12 Thread Todd Slater
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 11:08:14PM -0400, Guy Rouillier wrote:
 
> I don't use urmpi, but rather the Mandrake GUI, so I added these 
> directly to the Software Sources Manager.  Then I went into Install 
> Software, and searched for "gaim" - no hits.  Why aren't I seeing gaim 
> 0.70?  Do I need to uninstall 0.68 first?

I went to the gaim site and there are rpm's of 0.70 for 9.1. I had to
install libgtkspell, and I uninstalled my existing version first.

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Re: [newbie] getting rid of ads on the web

2003-10-12 Thread Heather/Femme
On 12 Oct 2003 19:40:00 -0700
Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 11:02, Heather/Femme wrote:
> > On 12 Oct 2003 07:51:30 -0700
> > Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > > (god did I just mangle my native tongue!  GAH!)
> > > You're from Texas?
> > > > 
> > > > Stoned out Froggy Femme
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > 
> > rofl!  no dear, canada!  :)
> > 
> > i'm french too.  so I was sort of um.. poking fun at my own heritage
> > & self. *s*
> > 
> > Fallen Astronaut,
> > Femme
> Mercy Buckets is a common term in the east Texas area (Piney Wood

oh...lord.. k didn't know that!

lol thx Aron

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Re: [newbie] annoying alarm on standby.

2003-10-12 Thread Aidan Holmes
Thank you all for your help with this issue.
I can now confirm that it's definately CPU overheating due to the fan 
stopping. I left the case off, and then left the computer 'till I heard 
the alarm again. Upon my return, the cpu fan had stopped, and the 
heatsink was too hot to touch for more than a second or so. An added 
bonus was that as i had turned the ceiling light off, i noticed that 
the case power light was flashing in time with the beeps ( I assume 
this means that it is a BIOS alarm), something I had not noticed with 
the room brightly lit.

I plan to check out the bios options first when I get home (I'm at work 
now) and see what difference that makes before trying to mess with any 
more settings in the software.

To aswer a few of your questions, The heatsink does have a pad, not 
thermal paste. and I have installed Mandrake myself from disks on the 
front of a Linux how-to book from the local newsagets. (I also bought 
red hat from the internet, but prefer the mandrake so far) I am running 
dual boot with Win XP and plan to learn linux the sam way I did 
windoze, by getting my hands dirty, playing arround and trying things 
out. It means that this is about my fifth linux re-installation in as 
many months but I'm learning alot. Hopefully I can completely phase out 
windoze soon and run a M$ free machine.

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Re: [newbie] grepping root?

2003-10-12 Thread Chuck Stuettgen
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 06:28, ed tharp wrote:

> i have this one for a desktop
> 
> "http://ed-tharp.is-a-geek.org/rootme.jpg";
> 
> 
Nice!

You must not be married, or else you have a very open minded spouse!

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Re: [newbie] Easy way to update Gaim to 0.70?

2003-10-12 Thread Guy Rouillier


Derek Jennings wrote:
On Sunday 05 Oct 2003 4:06 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:

I'm running Mandrake 9.1 with Gaim 0.68.  I want to update to 0.70 but
don't see this as an option currently in the Cooker mirrors I use.
Installing the Mandrake 9.1 RPM from the Sourceforge site fails on some
needed libraries.
Is there a quick & easy way to upgrade to 0.70 while maintaining my
current settings?
Thanks.


First of all.
If you are running 9.1 then you should **not** be using any Cooker mirrors.
Cooker is (or will shortly, briefly be) 9.2
Mixing packages from different releases is a recipe for creating 'dependency 
hell'

Now for Gaim-0.70
There are packages on Texstars download repository
Go here http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php
and declare a urpmi source for Texstar and you will then be able to see hos 
packahes in your Mandrake Software Manager GUI.
I went to this site and it showed me the following:

 urpmi.addmedia main 
ftp://raven.cslab.vt.edu/pub/linux/mandrake/9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS with 
../base/hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia contrib 
ftp://raven.cslab.vt.edu/pub/linux/mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS with 
../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
urpmi.addmedia --update updates 
ftp://raven.cslab.vt.edu/pub/linux/mandrake/updates/9.1/RPMS/ with 
../base/hdlist.cz

I don't use urmpi, but rather the Mandrake GUI, so I added these 
directly to the Software Sources Manager.  Then I went into Install 
Software, and searched for "gaim" - no hits.  Why aren't I seeing gaim 
0.70?  Do I need to uninstall 0.68 first?

If you have nort done so then declare sources for updates, plf, and contrib 
too.

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[newbie] Plex86

2003-10-12 Thread Russ
Has anyone here used plex86

http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/plex86
Thanks
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Re: [newbie] Making Mozilla the default browser in KDE

2003-10-12 Thread Joeb
Flávio Henrique wrote:

On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 20:45, Jamie Taylor wrote:
 

Sorry for not replying to the correct thread but I beleive someone wanted to 
know how to do this.  I wanted to do the same thing as I like the feel of 
Mozilla better than Konqueror.
After much thrashing aroud on the web I found out that this is how you do it.

I assume you're using KDE 3.1.0 because I think you said you were using 
Mandrake 9.1 which is the same distro as I'm using.
Open the KDE Control Centre and go to Components, File Associations, text, 
html and in the Application Preference move mozilla to the top of the list.
If it's not there add mozilla %u and then move it to the top.
Hope this helps as I'm a newb as well and I'm finding Linux a bit intimidating 
coming from being spoonfed by Windows all my PC life ;-)

Cheers

Jamie Taylor
   

yes... 
I did what you said but I think my Mozilla installation is not right,
cause after hit alt+f2 ant typing www.yahoo.com, e.g., the MD says:
"Could not find 'mozilla' executable"

I'll try reinstall Mozilla and try it again...
But now I now where I can change the files associations... that is the
point...
Thanx Jamie... Thanx a lot !!

(now, is I'll find out how to remove the mozilla... ahaha!!)

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If you have mozilla installed, but not in your path, you could (as root) 
issue a ln  mozilla /path to where mozilla is installed/mozilla 
/usr/bin/mozilla.  So, if your mozilla was installed under 
/usr/local/bin/mozilla, you would type:
ln -s /usr/local/bin/mozilla  /usr/bin/mozilla

That would create a link in the /usr/bin directory pointing to your 
mozilla.  /usr/bin is by default in your path.

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Re: [newbie] getting rid of ads on the web

2003-10-12 Thread Aron Smith
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 11:02, Heather/Femme wrote:
> On 12 Oct 2003 07:51:30 -0700
> Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > (god did I just mangle my native tongue!  GAH!)
> > You're from Texas?
> > > 
> > > Stoned out Froggy Femme
> > > 
> > > 
> 
> rofl!  no dear, canada!  :)
> 
> i'm french too.  so I was sort of um.. poking fun at my own heritage &
> self. *s*
> 
> Fallen Astronaut,
> Femme
Mercy Buckets is a common term in the east Texas area (Piney Woods)
> 
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Re: [newbie] Making Mozilla the default browser in KDE

2003-10-12 Thread Flávio Henrique
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 20:45, Jamie Taylor wrote:
> Sorry for not replying to the correct thread but I beleive someone wanted to 
> know how to do this.  I wanted to do the same thing as I like the feel of 
> Mozilla better than Konqueror.
> After much thrashing aroud on the web I found out that this is how you do it.
> 
> I assume you're using KDE 3.1.0 because I think you said you were using 
> Mandrake 9.1 which is the same distro as I'm using.
> Open the KDE Control Centre and go to Components, File Associations, text, 
> html and in the Application Preference move mozilla to the top of the list.
> If it's not there add mozilla %u and then move it to the top.
> Hope this helps as I'm a newb as well and I'm finding Linux a bit intimidating 
> coming from being spoonfed by Windows all my PC life ;-)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Jamie Taylor

yes... 
I did what you said but I think my Mozilla installation is not right,
cause after hit alt+f2 ant typing www.yahoo.com, e.g., the MD says:
"Could not find 'mozilla' executable"

I'll try reinstall Mozilla and try it again...
But now I now where I can change the files associations... that is the
point...

Thanx Jamie... Thanx a lot !!

(now, is I'll find out how to remove the mozilla... ahaha!!)


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Re: [newbie] gaim-0.71

2003-10-12 Thread Jerry Barton
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:49:25 +
Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 00:14:33 -0600
> Jerry Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > I still seem to be having trouble acessing the archives of the newbie
> > list.. What is your site again
> 
> 
> See the last last in my sig

Oh thanks.  I think that was a snake that did bite me and i didn't notice.  LOL

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Re: [newbie] Phoenix bios

2003-10-12 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Sunday 12 October 2003 06:40 pm, robin wrote:
> Bryan Phinney wrote:
> >On Sunday 12 October 2003 02:22 pm, Erylon Hines wrote:
> >>On Sunday 12 October 2003 07:44 am, John wrote:
> >>>The newbie mail has provided a lot of info. for me over the last 2
> >>>months. Being new, there is a lot to learn even from the OT mail.
> >>>Example: I have been trying to install md9.1 on a gateway 1450se with xp
> >>>   and phoenix bios.
> >>
> >>I used Partition Magic on a 450, which is essentially the same machine, I
> >>think.  Mine was pre-installed with W2K, though, and I did nuke the
> >>pre-install and installed clean with our site-licensed W2K.  I'm quad
> >>booting this machine due to legacy programs that require DOS, some that
> >> run in W98 but not W2K, and W2K for the rest of the stuff.  My personal
> >> partition boots Mandrake.  I had problems with the PCMCIA controller and
> >> the AMR modem--the modem is a lost cause.
> >
> >If you have to use one, Paragon Hard Drive Manager works much the same as
> >Partition Magic, has all the same features, IIRC, and has the added
> > benefit of supporting ReiserFS, HPFS, JFS, I think.  I know for sure that
> > is supports Reiser.  Also, it has an executable that is installable under
> > Linux that provides a lot of features, although not all as in Windows. 
> > Supports moving partitions entirely over to alternate drives, resizing
> > partitions (Reiser included), etc.
> >
> >If you have to use a Windows partition manager, I would get that one over
> >Partition Magic.
>
> What's wrong with the partitioning tool that comes with the Mandrake
> installation program?  I've used it several times and never lost data.

Note the "If you have to use a Windows partition manager" part of the phrase.

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Re: [newbie] gaim-0.71

2003-10-12 Thread Heather/Femme
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:41:19 +
Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:59:36 -0400
> Heather/Femme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I meant when they are in privacy/invisible mode...
> 
> Not ignoring you femme, that might be dangerous to my health.
> 
> Gaim does allow you to switch between varying privacy modes.
> 
> I have an irc account but have never used it, no buddies )-: 
> 
> 
> Charles
> 

rofl ty Charles.

ya want IRC ? just say so. I'm on irc everyday.

lol

email me offlist if you like. ;)

and thx I will try GAIM. :D

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Re: [newbie] gaim-0.71

2003-10-12 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:59:36 -0400
Heather/Femme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I meant when they are in privacy/invisible mode...

Not ignoring you femme, that might be dangerous to my health.

Gaim does allow you to switch between varying privacy modes.

I have an irc account but have never used it, no buddies )-: 


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Re: [newbie] gaim-0.71

2003-10-12 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:07:59 -0400
Trey Sizemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> and screem
> 0.8.2 installed and working great.

Just an addendum on screem.

With the 0.8 branch screem switched to using the gtksourceview .lang
files to provides syntax highlighting.
Currently gtksourceview does not provide php.lang therefore does not
provide highlighting for php.

In my screem-0.8.2-0.1 build I did include, as an additional source, a
php.lang file, which with the installation of screem-0.8.2 is installed
in /usr/share/gtksourceview-1.0/language-specs allowing for php
highlighting.
This is not an official file, and because it actually should belong to
another pkg, will most likely not be included in the mdk screem release.


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[newbie] exporting directories via Samba or NFS?

2003-10-12 Thread Thinker
Hello All,

 I finally got my old hard drive with mandrake 9.0 in a new machine and
back on the network. Now, I need to take most of the files in my home
directory (including /evolution ) and move them to my Win2k Machine for
archiving and to my SuSE 8.2 Machine for use.

Someone on the SuSE list suggested that I "start NFS on the Mandrake box
and export the directory to the SuSE box. Then start Samba on the
Mandrake box and export the same directory to the Windows machine."

I am not too familiar with NFS and exporting directories. How exactly do
I do this?

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Re: [newbie] gaim-0.71

2003-10-12 Thread Heather/Femme
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:54:36 +
Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:46:30 -0400
> Heather/Femme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > will gaim allow you to communicate with icq clients on "pvcy" mode?
> 
> If by "pvcy" mode you mean encrypted, then yes.
> These rpms will allow you to load the encryption-plugin.
> Anyone wishing to read must then have the key.
> 
> ..This may only work if all parties are using gaim.
> I don't use an im so can't really say for sure.
> 
> 
> Charles
> 

I meant when they are in privacy/invisible mode...

icq allows you to be seen online by a select few in your "visible" to
list... anyone not on that list, you look offline to them.

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Re[2]: [newbie] OT M$ is accepting responsibility?

2003-10-12 Thread rikona
Hello Bryan,

Sunday, October 12, 2003, 11:15:57 AM, you wrote:

BP> On Sunday 12 October 2003 01:53 pm, rikona wrote:

>> Given the past history, it might be a good idea to assume the worst,
>> at least as a start.

BP> As long as you keep in mind that making such assumptions automatically colors 
BP> any opinions that you form.

My bias is showing? :-)))

BP> We always need to differentiate our opinions  from facts, and
BP> especially our biases from what someone should interpret  about
BP> those facts.

Keep in mind that M$ works in deep secrecy. Draconian NDS agreements
are standard. As a result, very few actual facts emerge, and these are
usually 'after the fact'. In general, I agree it is a nice practice to
keep an open mind, but before you do that with M$, you might want to
look at the large pile of 'dead bodies' that did that with M$.

I'd prefer not to have to say "I guess M$ really DID want to take over
the entire net, didn't they"

>> BP> MS even dodges the Justice Dept. anti-trust bullet,
>>
>> Ain't gonna be a bullet, not even another gentle tap on the wrist.
>> Nobody is in a better position to snoop/spy then M$, especially with
>> the new direction they are going in. We could shut down an entire
>> country and its economy in a flash. Makes the DOD drool, I'll bet. :-)
>> All this incredible power does not cost the taxpayers a dime. The
>> government LOVES it. It would be more likely that they would subsidize
>> it than go after it.

BP> The anti-trust laws have NOT been rewritten, just not fully enforced in this 
BP> circumstance.

There are laws, and there are laws. When you get into the area of
national security, all bets are off. As with the prisoners in Cuba, if
you declare them national security hazards, you can invoke an entirely
different way of operating. I'm suggesting that M$ software could be
viewed, in a way, as a 'weapon'. This would allow DOJ, DOD, etc to
enter into incredibly secret agreements with M$, and even give them
money for development (as suggested by their lobbyists, of course).
Oracle got a lot of $$ from the CIA, for example.

You will not have even a HINT that this is happening. In fact, there
will likely be a good, misleading cover story.

BP> I don't see anything to suggest that it is not still in their
BP> interest to maintain the illusion of an open and  free market,
BP> even while they do their best to keep it as closed as benefits
BP> them.

I agree. I'm suggesting that the government will HELP them do this,
not fight it. We're not likely to see any DOJ action.

BP> I personally don't believe that MS is evil personified,

Agreed. Just keep a sharp eye on your wallet. :-) He'll pick your
pocket. Is the pickpocket evil personified? Probably not, but still be
careful. A bit of street smarts is useful for survival too.

BP> Every human will try to make things work out best for himself,
BP> even  if that sometimes is at the expense of others.  That is just
BP> plain old  self-interest and survival instinct.

True. It depends on how you go about it. Empire builders often go well
beyond just survival.

BP> I would not want to argue that someone wanting to make more money
BP> is necessarily evil.

True. It depends on how you go about it. "Bank robbers succeed in huge
robbery." They just wanted to make money too.

BP> There are some people that I would  classify as evil, and I don't
BP> think that Bill and co. can hold a candle to them.  As for harm to
BP> people and the world in general, there are some who do  much more
BP> harm than does MS.

Just because I can find someone worse does not make them good.

BP> That doesn't mean that I would not resist someone trying to force me to use a 
BP> product that is not in my best interest, just that I don't take it 
BP> personally.

I don't take it personally either. I'm just trying to keep ahead of
the game, and cut off the bad guys at the pass. Act before the fact if
you see danger coming. Helps survival, as it always has.

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Re: [newbie] mozzilla mail

2003-10-12 Thread Dennis Myers
On Sunday 12 October 2003 01:40 pm, Walt Frampus wrote:
> I am trying to bring over my mozilla email and contacts from my windows
> hard drive to my linux box. what is the file extention and location of
> my person mail etc.?
>
> Walt
You should find it in a hidden folder such as this:
/home/dennis/.mozilla/dennis/v4ptz8yv.slt/mailnote the "." in front of 
mozilla.  That is a hidden folder in your files. Konqueror shows it if you 
click on "show hidden folders" in the View tab. HTH
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[newbie] mozzilla mail

2003-10-12 Thread Walt Frampus
I am trying to bring over my mozilla email and contacts from my windows 
hard drive to my linux box. what is the file extention and location of 
my person mail etc.?

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: how to tell where i got an rpm?

2003-10-12 Thread Eric Huff
> > Is there anyway to get that at the cli?  Commands like urpmf
> > --description a2ps  kind of help, but only if the name is in the
> > description, and it's still only part of the answer.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > eric
> 
> $rpm -qi name_of_pakage 
>  will give you a lot of information on this subject.  
> Make sure you just put the name not the rpm name. For example:

Cool.  I'll look into it some more.  I sorta forgot about the rpm
copmmands (instead of *u*rpm).

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Re: [newbie] OT M$ is accepting responsibility?

2003-10-12 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Sunday 12 October 2003 01:53 pm, rikona wrote:

> Given the past history, it might be a good idea to assume the worst,
> at least as a start.

As long as you keep in mind that making such assumptions automatically colors 
any opinions that you form.  We always need to differentiate our opinions 
from facts, and especially our biases from what someone should interpret 
about those facts.

> BP> MS even dodges the Justice Dept. anti-trust bullet,
>
> Ain't gonna be a bullet, not even another gentle tap on the wrist.
> Nobody is in a better position to snoop/spy then M$, especially with
> the new direction they are going in. We could shut down an entire
> country and its economy in a flash. Makes the DOD drool, I'll bet. :-)
> All this incredible power does not cost the taxpayers a dime. The
> government LOVES it. It would be more likely that they would subsidize
> it than go after it.

The anti-trust laws have NOT been rewritten, just not fully enforced in this 
circumstance.  With the settlement, MS again gains the ability to portray the 
market as free, even if it still isn't.  I don't see anything to suggest that 
it is not still in their interest to maintain the illusion of an open and 
free market, even while they do their best to keep it as closed as benefits 
them.

> BP> Again, I do agree with a lot of the stuff in that article but I am
> BP> not convinced that anyone but Bill and Steve know the whole story
> BP> about MS plans.
>
> That's what worries me. Especially with all the "aren't we a nice
> company" ads that flood the media. They are trying to get our trust,
> just as any good con artist would. Watch out. :-)

Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion about end results and motivations.  
I personally don't believe that MS is evil personified, even if I realize 
that Bill Gates and I have different interests to pursue.  Just because a 
company pursues goals that are not in my best interests and seeks to limit my 
choices to those that make them money does not make them evil, that is simply 
reality.  Every human will try to make things work out best for himself, even 
if that sometimes is at the expense of others.  That is just plain old 
self-interest and survival instinct.  And, for better or worse, companies are 
run by ordinary humans.  

Now, once our basic needs have been met, some of us my pursue our interests 
with more moderation than others, some may even be altruistic (if only for 
their own ego purposes) but I would not want to argue that someone wanting to 
make more money is necessarily evil.  There are some people that I would 
classify as evil, and I don't think that Bill and co. can hold a candle to 
them.  As for harm to people and the world in general, there are some who do 
much more harm than does MS.

That doesn't mean that I would not resist someone trying to force me to use a 
product that is not in my best interest, just that I don't take it 
personally.

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Re: [newbie] how to configure Mozilla as my default browser ?

2003-10-12 Thread Charlie M.
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October 14, 2003 10:46 am, Flávio Henrique wrote:
[..]
> > Just add mozilla to the command. re:
> >
> > mozilla www.yahoo.com 
>
> doesn't work...
>
> The Mandrake can't execute the command...
>
> what now ?
>
> Flávio Henrique

It works for me. On my own system, my (three) downstairs neighbours that run 
Mandrake Linux 9.1, and my friend that I'm speaking to on the telephone with 
at the moment. She's running the cooker version from about ten days back.

The consensus from here seems to be: typing the command above in the "run" box 
and hitting the enter key always works.

The part between the angle braces ( ) is not part of the command. It's 
an action you perform after you type the command immediately preceding it. To 
wit:

mozilla www.somewebsiteurl.com

is the command. Then you strike the enter key to run that command.

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Re[2]: [newbie] OT M$ is accepting responsibility?

2003-10-12 Thread rikona
Hello Bryan,

Sunday, October 12, 2003, 8:47:49 AM, you wrote:

BP> The technical plans have already been published, but as with all
BP> things, those  can be perceived in a favorable light or
BP> unfavorable light.

Given the past history, it might be a good idea to assume the worst,
at least as a start.

BP> Hopefully, you get the picture.

Yeah, I get the picture. :-

BP> MS even dodges the Justice Dept. anti-trust bullet,

Ain't gonna be a bullet, not even another gentle tap on the wrist.
Nobody is in a better position to snoop/spy then M$, especially with
the new direction they are going in. We could shut down an entire
country and its economy in a flash. Makes the DOD drool, I'll bet. :-)
All this incredible power does not cost the taxpayers a dime. The
government LOVES it. It would be more likely that they would subsidize
it than go after it.

BP> Again, I do agree with a lot of the stuff in that article but I am
BP> not convinced that anyone but Bill and Steve know the whole story
BP> about MS plans.

That's what worries me. Especially with all the "aren't we a nice
company" ads that flood the media. They are trying to get our trust,
just as any good con artist would. Watch out. :-)

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Re: [newbie] how to configure Mozilla as my default browser ?

2003-10-12 Thread Flávio Henrique
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 15:36, Charlie M. wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> 
> October 14, 2003 10:30 am, Flávio Henrique wrote:
> > Hi
> > I was using Konkeror as internet browser, but I can't install java
> > plugin for Konkeror...
> > So, I downloaded Mozilla and install...
> > but when I hit Alt+F2 and type www.yahoo.com, e.g., the Mandrake opens
> > the webpage in Konkeror...
> >
> > How to configure to the open the pages in Mozilla ??
> >
> > Thanx in advance...
> >
> > Flávio Henrique
> 
> Just add mozilla to the command. re:
> 
> mozilla www.yahoo.com 
> 

doesn't work...

The Mandrake can't execute the command...

what now ?

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Re: [newbie] how to configure Mozilla as my default browser ?

2003-10-12 Thread Charlie M.
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October 14, 2003 10:30 am, Flávio Henrique wrote:
> Hi
> I was using Konkeror as internet browser, but I can't install java
> plugin for Konkeror...
> So, I downloaded Mozilla and install...
> but when I hit Alt+F2 and type www.yahoo.com, e.g., the Mandrake opens
> the webpage in Konkeror...
>
> How to configure to the open the pages in Mozilla ??
>
> Thanx in advance...
>
> Flávio Henrique

Just add mozilla to the command. re:

mozilla www.yahoo.com 

God this machine is sick! Ignore the Fortune below. :-)

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[newbie] how to configure Mozilla as my default browser ?

2003-10-12 Thread Flávio Henrique
Hi
I was using Konkeror as internet browser, but I can't install java
plugin for Konkeror... 
So, I downloaded Mozilla and install...
but when I hit Alt+F2 and type www.yahoo.com, e.g., the Mandrake opens
the webpage in Konkeror...

How to configure to the open the pages in Mozilla ??

Thanx in advance...

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Re[2]: [newbie] OT M$ is accepting responsibility?

2003-10-12 Thread rikona
Hello Douglas,

Sunday, October 12, 2003, 7:52:19 AM, you wrote:

DB> Here's a copy of the letter - we'll see what happens.

Nice letter. I hope you would not mind if I use it as a basis for
letters here in the US.

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Re[2]: [newbie] OT M$ is accepting responsibility?

2003-10-12 Thread rikona
Hello Franki,

Sunday, October 12, 2003, 12:48:23 AM, you wrote:

F> Just be sure as many people know that we are not gonna stand for
F> it.. even die hard windows users should not stand for it.

I have had some success with win users. Few have converted to Linux,
but all have stopped using M$ software, and are using protective
software to be safer and more private. When they get comfortable with
their new tools and used to using non-M$ software, they start looking
at other OS options. A slow, gentle path seems to be a good idea for
many people.

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Re: [newbie] Genius Wireless Mouse and Keyboard

2003-10-12 Thread Stormjumper
maybe you can tell us wat you tried, and what errors you got, and
hopefully someone here can help you out.

fwiw, i plugged a (Chicony brand) wireless keyboard and mouse set
that's on 1 usb port, and it worked outright. and that's under
mandrake 8.2.

are you sure your usb is already working?
- Original Message - 
From: Kyle Hartigan ( Sharpshooter )
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 06:25
Subject: [newbie] Genius Wireless Mouse and Keyboard


Does anyone know how to get a genius wireless keyboard and mouse that
are on 1 usb port to work in mandrake 9.1 and lilo

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Re: [newbie] Phoenix bios

2003-10-12 Thread Charlie M.
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October 12, 2003 05:44 am, John wrote:
> The newbie mail has provided a lot of info. for me over the last 2
> months. Being new, there is a lot to learn even from the OT mail.
> Example: I have been trying to install md9.1 on a gateway 1450se with xp
>and phoenix bios. I made the suggested changes in the bios and loaded
> the cd. Instructions were to reboot and md would start installation
> process as it did on my win98 system. Didn't work. You can even indicate
> in the bios whether you have win or other system. I checked several
> mailing lists and there were no problems loading md on other 1450
> laptops. I try to keep everything updated and updated the bios about 4
> months ago. After reading mail about phoenix, it makes you wonder if the
> update was to cut everything out but m$. The only info I have found to
> help points to a "remote control center" which supposedly controls the
> boot process. It is not loaded and was supposed to be on the wn cd.
> Gateway ships their own cd instead of the wn cd and of course it isn't
> on that either. What a tangled web they have weaved. Any help would be
> appreciated on getting md loaded.
> More importantly, I wanted you to know that you have one more md
> believer. Your efforts to help and keep us informed are appreciated.
> john

Thanks for the "Vote of Confidence" John. (-:

The following link may be beneficial;

http://www.csun.edu/ws/gateway/

Peace;
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Re: [newbie] annoying alarm on standby.

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday October 12 2003 06:52 am, ed tharp wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 07:03, Jerry Barton wrote:
> > On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:34:36 +0800
> >
> > Aidan Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Saturday 11 October 2003 11:33 pm, Charlie M. wrote:
> > > Thanks Jerry and Charlie for your responses.
> > > I am very new to linux, and so I wouldn't have a clue how to
> > > see if I have gkrellm and lm_sensors running, but I'll
> > > certainly explore and see what I can find.One more
> > > question for you, if it is a cpu overheating, I can
> > > understand it doing it after the computer has been on for a
> > > while, but why would it stop again once i press a button on
> > > the keyboard to start working again??

> just a guess, the fan is spinning down to save power, but the CPU
> is not going all the way to sleep. (zombies?)

   That'd be my guess also. During standby the cpu is normally still 
busy. Just somewhat lower loads than when the system is up and 
running. For the original poster, some suggestions and opinions;

   In bios you should have an option to disable the fan spinning 
down. Set it to run 100% fan speed all the time. The sound you 
heard from the system speaker was most likely the bios alarm for 
cpu overheating. Probly nothin to do with lm_sensors, and since you 
didn't know what lm_sensors is, you probly don't have it installed 
anyhow. 

OTOH, it shouldn't happen. When the cpu temp went too high, 
bios should'a turned the fan speed back up. Could be marginal 
motherboard and/or bios (win)design. Could be due to a thermal pad 
instead of grease being used. Could be a lot of things including 
dust bunnies. In any event, I suspect your cooling (including case) 
might just be barely adequate.

I believe there's a way to alter fan behavior using 'setpci', 
but since I've never needed it, I don't know how to use it. I was 
recently contacted offlist by someone who is using setpci to vary 
fan speeds with load/temp (a bad idea IMO). So there's probly a way 
to force 100% fan speed all the time. 

   Check an see if you have a bios option to enable/disable HLT 
(halt) commands to the cpu. If so enable it, if not the Linux 
kernel HLT signals just might not are being sent to the cpu, even 
if you see  "Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK."  in /var/log/dmesg

   It could be that your motherboard came with a Windoze CD, and 
winsux software to handle what the bios should be doin at the 
hardware level, fan an HLT wise, ie, (win)designed. Specially if 
you don't have fan speed and HLT options in bios. All too common 
situation in ready made systems or motherboards designed primarily 
for Windoze use. Even otherwise very good ones. IOW's, an 
increasing prevalence of win-hardware and shifting hardware/bios 
functions to software. Billy's real crime.

IMO, all these power saving deals are just gimmicks anyhow, 
'cept for powering down the monitor. Any chip, particularly those 
that require a heatsink, does NOT have steady temps. Instant heat 
spikes in the core are the norm, even on standby. If you reduce fan 
rpms, then the mass of the heatsink base will be hotter than when 
running the fan at 100% all the time. So when the spikes do occur, 
then the heatsink is less able to handle them. 

 If you want to see this happening, run a cpu load gauge (like 
gkrellm). When you see the gauge shoot from under 5% to around 25 
to 50% and higher, and then right back down, the cpu core temp just 
spiked up correspondingly.  Note how often these spikes occur too. 
Almost constantly. This is completely normal behavior, and even on 
standby the cpu still has work to do.
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Re: [newbie] annoying alarm on standby.

2003-10-12 Thread Charlie M.
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October 12, 2003 05:52 am, ed tharp wrote:
[..]
> just a guess, the fan is spinning down to save power, but the CPU is not
> going all the way to sleep. (zombies?)
>
You beat me to that one Ed. (-:

He said he's a "total noob" though so you may want to stay away from talking 
about zombies without first explaining that he can see what's running in the 
background with top in a terminal. And that if any process is marked with the 
"z" denoting a zombie that he should try killing it with by striking the k 
button on his keyboard then typing the PID number and following the prompt.

It's all academic anyway isn't it? I still think the alarm may be going off 
because of a conflict. Whether an APM or ACPI problem, a combination of 
factors, or something else entirely. 

He needs to try to give some detail about the install, hardware 
specifications, etc. Such as; did he do the install, or was it some well 
meaning soul that didn't explain much and/or possibly didn't know. Since 
Mandrake Linux won't keep a user from doing silly things this is probably 
something fairly easy to diagnose and fix for the person with the system in 
front of him. Rather more difficult for e-mail support though.

It's an interesting conundrum though.

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[newbie] PCI -> USB conflict ?

2003-10-12 Thread john
My partner brought her PC home from work as her printer had died and She 
needed a new one setting up. It was USB only and her old PC did not have any 
USB ports, so installed a PCI-USB card and got the printer a Lexmark z25 
(I Know !!) working after some struggling.
Then while checking that everything else still worked I found that the 
Conexant PCI modem (I know !!!) was no longer working.
Kppp said modem does not respond, tried all the /dev/modem, ttyxxx options and 
either got cannot open modem, modem does not respond or modem not found 
messages.
So pulled the PCI-USB card still no success, tried all of the above again and 
tried moving the modem to another slot, still no success.
Anyone tell me what I am missing please, it's running 8.2 BTW (note to self to 
upgrade it asap.

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Re: [newbie] OT M$ is accepting responsibility?

2003-10-12 Thread ed tharp
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 11:47, Bryan Phinney wrote:
> On Sunday 12 October 2003 10:52 am, Douglas Bainbridge wrote:
> > Further to my last post
> 
> One of the things that I would ask everyone who accesses the IT 2003 and 
> Beyond article is that some of the interpretations of the author are just 
> that, interpretations.  Without being privy to MS's actual strategic plans 
> over the next few years, it is impossible to know if that author's 
> interpretations about the business goals of MS are actually correct.  The 
> technical plans have already been published, but as with all things, those 
> can be perceived in a favorable light or unfavorable light.
> 
> Based upon interviews with Steve Ballmer, I think that I am understanding at 
> least one deviation in MS's plans and that is changing the fundamental idea 
> of a personal computer to become more like a game console (Xbox).  The idea 
> would be that the PC becomes a closed box with OS and hardware integrated to 
> the point that they are inseparable (and not upgradeable).  These PC's would 
> not be sold as general function devices but built and marketed for very 
> specific purposes.
Kinda like the PSx Sony announced lately?



> Thus, you buy a closed box PC sold as a Multimedia entertainment device.  Much 
> like an Xbox but built for movies, music, windows media files, etc.  But a 
> closed box that you can't really change the software out in.  Download movies 
> on demand, play DVD's etc.  All with Digital rights management, etc. built 
> right into the box, 5.1 or 6.1 sound, rights management for on demand, 
> encoding for pre-packaged music and movies.  Yet another device is sold for 
> kids and children for homework, with web surfing, MSN, instant messaging, and 
> maybe light entertainment usage.  Yet another device, Xbox, for game 
> purposes.  Perhaps yet another device for home business, or home finance, 
> budgeting, records, correspondence, email, etc.
> 
> Hopefully, you get the picture.  By splitting up the market into smaller 
> segments and building closed boxes, MS gets to sell more copies of its 
> software, they close down loopholes that allow pirating or bypassing digital 
> rights management, and they insure that consumers will be upgrading every few 
> years, just like they now do with game consoles.  With good volume, they can 
> get a price point that insures a lot of purchases, the entertainment industry 
> is happy, the game industry is happy, the hardware industry is happy and most 
> of all MS is happy.  Stick that together with multiple manufacturers and 
> branding (multiple brands, GE, RCA, etc. even if they all have Intel chipsets 
> and MS software) and MS even dodges the Justice Dept. anti-trust bullet, 
> since the OS is integrated and consumers can't swap it out even if they want 
> to.  Since the brand is different, any complaints about competition have to 
> be targeted to the brand manufacturers, not MS.
> 
> Again, I do agree with a lot of the stuff in that article but I am not 
> convinced that anyone but Bill and Steve know the whole story about MS plans.
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Re: [newbie] urpmi: how to tell where i got an rpm?

2003-10-12 Thread yankl
On Sunday 12 October 2003 10:55 am, Eric Huff wrote:
> Is there any to tell where a particular rpm came from (or where it
> is available now)?  I know i could un install it, and then select
> reinstall and that would tell me, but that's a bit excessive.  Usu i
> need to do this when someone asks me where i got a particular
> program from...
>
>
> Likewise, how would i get the description, etc, for an rpm at the
> cli. For example, if you select a2ps in the add software section,
> you get this info:
>
> 
> Name: a2ps
> Version: 4.13b-1mdk
> Size: 2243 KB
> Source: main
> Currently installed version: (none)
>
> Summary: Converts text and other types of files to PostScript(TM)
>
> Description: The a2ps filter converts text and other types of files
> to PostScript(TM). a2ps has pretty-printing capabilities and
> includes support for a wide number of programming languages,
> encodings (ISO Latins, Cyrillic, etc.), and medias.
> -
>
> Is there anyway to get that at the cli?  Commands like urpmf
> --description a2ps  kind of help, but only if the name is in the
> description, and it's still only part of the answer.
>
> Thanks,
> eric

$rpm -qi name_of_pakage 
 will give you a lot of information on this subject.  
Make sure you just put the name not the rpm name. For example:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] yankl]$ su
Password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] yankl]# rpm -qi rpm
Name: rpm  Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 4.2   Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 19mdk Build Date: Thu 09 Oct 2003 
04:06:23 AM EDT
Install Date: Thu 09 Oct 2003 10:38:09 PM EDT  Build Host: 
hp6.mandrakesoft.com
Group   : System/Configuration/Packaging   Source RPM: 
rpm-4.2-19mdk.src.rpm
Size: 4917558  License: GPL
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Thu 09 Oct 2003 05:35:07 AM EDT, Key ID 
e7898ae070771ff3
Packager: Gwenole Beauchesne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://www.rpm.org/
Summary : The RPM package management system
Description :
RPM is a powerful command line driven package management system capable of
installing, uninstalling, verifying, querying, and updating software packages.
Each software package consists of an archive of files along with information
about the package like its version, a description, etc.

Notice that it contain vendor name.
Try to man rpm and look for query section for more switches.  

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Re: [newbie] OT M$ is accepting responsibility?

2003-10-12 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Sunday 12 October 2003 10:52 am, Douglas Bainbridge wrote:
> Further to my last post

One of the things that I would ask everyone who accesses the IT 2003 and 
Beyond article is that some of the interpretations of the author are just 
that, interpretations.  Without being privy to MS's actual strategic plans 
over the next few years, it is impossible to know if that author's 
interpretations about the business goals of MS are actually correct.  The 
technical plans have already been published, but as with all things, those 
can be perceived in a favorable light or unfavorable light.

Based upon interviews with Steve Ballmer, I think that I am understanding at 
least one deviation in MS's plans and that is changing the fundamental idea 
of a personal computer to become more like a game console (Xbox).  The idea 
would be that the PC becomes a closed box with OS and hardware integrated to 
the point that they are inseparable (and not upgradeable).  These PC's would 
not be sold as general function devices but built and marketed for very 
specific purposes.

Thus, you buy a closed box PC sold as a Multimedia entertainment device.  Much 
like an Xbox but built for movies, music, windows media files, etc.  But a 
closed box that you can't really change the software out in.  Download movies 
on demand, play DVD's etc.  All with Digital rights management, etc. built 
right into the box, 5.1 or 6.1 sound, rights management for on demand, 
encoding for pre-packaged music and movies.  Yet another device is sold for 
kids and children for homework, with web surfing, MSN, instant messaging, and 
maybe light entertainment usage.  Yet another device, Xbox, for game 
purposes.  Perhaps yet another device for home business, or home finance, 
budgeting, records, correspondence, email, etc.

Hopefully, you get the picture.  By splitting up the market into smaller 
segments and building closed boxes, MS gets to sell more copies of its 
software, they close down loopholes that allow pirating or bypassing digital 
rights management, and they insure that consumers will be upgrading every few 
years, just like they now do with game consoles.  With good volume, they can 
get a price point that insures a lot of purchases, the entertainment industry 
is happy, the game industry is happy, the hardware industry is happy and most 
of all MS is happy.  Stick that together with multiple manufacturers and 
branding (multiple brands, GE, RCA, etc. even if they all have Intel chipsets 
and MS software) and MS even dodges the Justice Dept. anti-trust bullet, 
since the OS is integrated and consumers can't swap it out even if they want 
to.  Since the brand is different, any complaints about competition have to 
be targeted to the brand manufacturers, not MS.

Again, I do agree with a lot of the stuff in that article but I am not 
convinced that anyone but Bill and Steve know the whole story about MS plans.

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Re: [newbie] Lightwave 3D / 3d artwork / Blender

2003-10-12 Thread John Richard Smith
Anarky wrote:

John Richard Smith wrote:



modelling, animation, texturing, workflow & rendering. 




Could you kindly define for this rank newbie 3d modeler, what each of 
the 5 subject headings mean.

okie :P

Modelling,   I guess making a 3d outline.

well ... this is about making the shape of things ... say you want to 
make a dog ... there's ways and ways of approaching it ... you might 
start of a cube, extrude (you can think of it as stretching the cube) 
until you get where you want, or work with curved surfaces ... that 
you define ... or starting from points which you move around ... in 
short .. various techniques of modelling.
blender is pretty well rounded .. but many people still use Wings3d as 
it's meant ONLY for modelling, and it's quite strong in the modelling 
(haven't used it too much to be able to say much)

Animation, speaks for itself.

yep, kinda ... but this also can be done in many ways ... in more 
basic ways (keyframes) .. and in more advanced ways (mixing different 
actions in the animation mixer). Blender is kewl here. Also it can use 
animation to make modelling stuff .. which is really cool (eg. you 
have a stair .. that you "animate" as moving in a spiral .. than you 
"materialize" it along the way .. and taaadaa .. you've got a spiral 
stairway)

Texturing ,  I suppose this is about colouring in the 3d outline ?

it's about putting picures on pollygons ... say you make a wall ... 
now that you're done with modelling it .. you might put a picture of 
bricks along it .. and you've got a brick wall ;-)

Workflow,  ?

this is about how fast you can work ... how easy it is to go to bigger 
& bigger projects ... basically productivity ... this is a very 
stroing point of Blender ... it's soo strong that it's quite scary for 
the beginners (full of shortucts, tricks & workarounds that are 
awesome for the "swimmer" .. but scary for the first timer who's 
getting his toes wet (not to mention the at first strange look & 
buttons & stuff) )

rendering , ?

well ... this is about how good your stuff comes out ... it's like ... 
you can make an awful model & stuff but still have it look quite good 
... for example you might make just a couple of cubes & scatter them 
around ... and put in a light somewhere ... this boring thing might at 
some point with a good rendering look quite great if you make one of 
the cubes reflective, another trasparent .. and the others cast 
interesting shadows on their siblings ... like I said ... this atm 
isn't Blender's strongest point ... but you can still get great 
results ... and there ARE ways to get awesome results (tricks & 
exports) ... and also real hopes (I hear starting from 2.30 (now it's 
2.28) things will become even easier and more standard to export & 
render ... and even in 2.29 I understand there'll be serious 
improovements in the area)

   greets,

hope this helped.

I installed blender on M9.0 and took a close look at it , and frankly , 
to a complete beginner it seemed a bit too much to understand. They 
assume you already know a lot of the terms, but if you are like me you 
have never ever seen a 3d modeling programme before, and while  I dare 
say I will get used to it all in time, so far I haven't succeded in so 
doing. Blender looks to me like the bees knees,  but then I know nothing.

I think I will wait until M9.2 and put blender on that, and begin again.

Seems to me you have some experience, can I post to you or here in 
newbie with queries?

John

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.2 urpmi sources

2003-10-12 Thread Eric Huff
> Are there any ftp sites online that still have the sources for
> Mandrake 8.2
> I got the PLF
> Still need the contrib and the update sources
> 
> Anybody knows of some place still online ?

It looks like 

http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php

has setups for them.  Did you try those and they didn't work?

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[newbie] Mandrake 8.2 urpmi sources

2003-10-12 Thread Kristjan

Hi there

Are there any ftp sites online that still have the sources for
Mandrake 8.2
I got the PLF
Still need the contrib and the update sources

I browsed some of the Manrake mirrors but from those the 8.2 has been
dissapeared.


Anybody knows of some place still online ?

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[newbie] urpmi: how to tell where i got an rpm?

2003-10-12 Thread Eric Huff
Is there any to tell where a particular rpm came from (or where it
is available now)?  I know i could un install it, and then select
reinstall and that would tell me, but that's a bit excessive.  Usu i
need to do this when someone asks me where i got a particular
program from...


Likewise, how would i get the description, etc, for an rpm at the
cli. For example, if you select a2ps in the add software section,
you get this info:


Name: a2ps
Version: 4.13b-1mdk
Size: 2243 KB
Source: main
Currently installed version: (none)

Summary: Converts text and other types of files to PostScript(TM)

Description: The a2ps filter converts text and other types of files
to PostScript(TM). a2ps has pretty-printing capabilities and
includes support for a wide number of programming languages,
encodings (ISO Latins, Cyrillic, etc.), and medias.
-

Is there anyway to get that at the cli?  Commands like urpmf
--description a2ps  kind of help, but only if the name is in the
description, and it's still only part of the answer.

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] getting rid of ads on the web

2003-10-12 Thread Aron Smith
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 01:47, Heather/Femme wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:37:15 +0100
> Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > > Privoxy
> > > > www.privoxy.org
> > > > RPM is in contrib. Just set your browser proxy settings to port
> > > > 8118 By default privoxy will block pop ups, and block adverts.
> > > > When privoxy is running http://p.p/  takes you to privoxy online
> > > > configuration to customise it per site.
> > > >
> > > > derek
> > >
> > > do i need anything special? or it just runs locally?
> > >
> > > thx
> > >
> > > Femme
> > 
> > Yes. You can run it locally.
> > Personally I run it on my firewall, and then tell all the browsers on
> > the local network to use it.
> > 
> > You can also run it in conjunction with  Squid.
> > The default settings are very good. I have only had to customise 1 or
> > 2 sites (such as my bank to allow pop ups)
> > 
> > Nowdays when I use a browser without privoxy I find the number of
> > adverts on the web quite scary. Privoxy makes the Internet much more
> > peaceful.
> > 
> > 
> > derek
> > -- 
> 
> tell me about it...got used to using ZAPRO for this..sigh...
> 
> merci buckets
> 
> (god did I just mangle my native tongue!  GAH!)
You're from Texas?
> 
> Stoned out Froggy Femme
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] OT M$ is accepting responsibility?

2003-10-12 Thread Douglas Bainbridge
Further to my last post


..
"Do you have a Consumers Association or similar body in the US that
could
get fired up about this? 

http://aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html#mspath

I'm going to try to agitate the UK one.

DougB"

I've written to the Consumers' Association in the UK, Which.
Here's a copy of the letter - we'll see what happens.

DougB

[letter follows]

"Dear Which Campaigns,

I have been a member of the Consumers' Association for many years and
know how effective your campaigns can be on issues affecting consumers'
rights and welfare. I want to alert you to some extremely dangerous,
far-reaching, extensive, monopolistic developments, already well under
way, that are greatly to the detriment of our interests in many fields
and that desperately need determined opposition from consumer groups
across Europe. 

The software giant, Microsoft, is pursuing a strategy on many fronts
aimed at achieving a total stranglehold over all information traffic,
whether in the home or the office, personal or public, leisure or
business, forcing it out of the privacy of individually-owned PCs onto
the internet in channels meant to be wholly controlled by, and
accessible only by payment to, Microsoft. Microsoft is attempting to
fetter mobile telecommunications and channel television to its home
computer systems as a further part of this strategy. It is promoting
pernicious legislation in the European Parliament intended to outlaw or
prevent third-party alternatives to its software that might now, or in
the future, offer competition.

To the average man in the street this may all seem greatly exaggerated -
something dreamt up by computer nerds. However,it *will* mean something
to the man in the street when a businessman finds Microsoft can cut him
off from access to his business until he pays more, or the home owner
finds he can no longer use his computer and personal data, because
Microsoft has decreed his software obsolete and can force expensive
updates of software and hardware without his consent. The EULA (End User
License Agreement) accompanying every bit of Microsoft software sets out
Microsoft's entitlements explicitly in the small print and will be,
indeed already is,a legal license for extortion without redress from the
consumer.

There is good documentation validating my assertions in a rather long
article on
http://aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html#mspath, particularly the section
titled: Microsoft "The Road Ahead". It gives a much better and more
informed account of the situation than I have been able to do. Please
visit this site. As regards the European legislation, I and a number of
others who are greatly concerned have already written to our MEPs about
it, and for your information I attach a copy of the letter sent to my
MEP.

The only effective defence of the public's interest we can see working
in the long term is to promote Open Source, i.e largely non-proprietary,
software, whose huge number of volunteer supporters and developers
distributed internationally is not readily intimidated, bought out, or
overwhelmed by the financial might wielded by the Microsoft giant.This
is vital, because ultimately any third-party information technology,
software or hardware, that is to survive in competition with the
Microsoft monopolies will depend on having a viable alternative to the
Windows system.
We need to resist the blanket introduction of Microsoft systems into our
public services, especially if accompanied by 'sweeteners' that are
actually ties to long-term commitments.We need to bring pressure on many
institutions, like banks, to stop imposing the Microsoft system as a
condition of e-commerce, for example requiring the browser, Internet
Explorer, when alternative browsers offer equally high levels of
encryption and, particularly, when running on non-Windows systems, are
far less worm- and virus-ridden. 
There are many other situations where consumers need to be vigilant
against some insidious threat or other posed by Microsoft. There is a
group of us, very alive to the situation; and we could alert you at an
early stage when the need arises, if you would like us to do this" 



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Re: [newbie] ksysguard loses connection to local host & TOP Segfaults

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Saturday October 11 2003 01:16 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
> help?
>
> i've never seen this before & am at a loss as to what to do or
> where to look...
>
> my system was OCed till last night..but vid problems are forcing
> me to look at this issue further...
>
> i was running Ksysguard to keep an eye on a program that tends to
> have a memory leak.
>
> ideas???

   From what you wrote, I believe I've had a similar issue recently. 
With the added variable that I run cooker 9.2+. In my case, 
whenever I run pan and d/l from binary newsgroups, I need to close 
pan before I do anything else, particularly with the files I just 
d/l'd, or the X server sometimes loses connection and the screen 
goes screwy or just black. Requires a cold shutdown for at least 30 
seconds to a minute. Safer yet was not to close pan normally, but 
to kill it with . You might experiment with the same 
for the app you suspect has a memory leak.

   BUT, most problems like this are hardware related. I finally 
found that reducing ram tweaks, specially pre-charge from 2T 
(ticks) to 3, all but eliminates the pan problem. I also set Cas to 
3, and disabled banking just to be cautious. I believe the real 
problem is I foolishly bought Kingston DDR ram recently, instead of 
Crucial or Corsair, as I knew I should'a. So much for payin 
attention to rave Website hardware reviews. Of course with any oc'd 
system, the first step should be to un-overclock, set default 
values for FSB, multiplier, voltages, etc. Seems you've already 
done that.

Don't bother with memtest86. It's not a very good ram test. But 
you could try it first. Too often tho it doesn't find ram problems.
So get http://mersenne.org/gimps/mprime2212.tar.gzand run 
 ./mprime -mand choose menu item 17 (torture test). Let it run 
for hours. You're probly OK it it doesn't stop an give a hardware 
error message (seti is not a substitute for this).  As always, heat 
could be the problem if errors are seen. Take the case cover off an 
point a table fan directly into the box.  Try again.  Until 
hardware error (and/or mis-configuration) possibility is eliminated 
first, there's no sense lookin for software reasons for problems.

If you really wanna verify the hardware is solid as configured,
install the Mandrake 'cpuburn' rpm (it's on your CD's) and run the 
module appropriate for your cpu. In your case Femme, I think that's
'burnP6'.  It'd probly be wise to check with memtest86 and mprime 
first tho.  Another opinion (?), I'm beginning to believe there's 
no sense overclocking new systems that are already wicked fast and 
high Ghz.  Hard to admit for an oldtime overclocker ;)
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Re: [newbie] OT M$ is accepting responsibility?

2003-10-12 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Sunday 12 October 2003 01:38 am, Barry Premeaux wrote:
> On Saturday 11 October 2003 06:54 pm, HaywireMac wrote:
> > "Palladium requires computers to have a special chip, which both Intel
> > and AMD have already agreed to incorporate."
> >
> > http://aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html#mspath
>
> My eyes must have glazed over on that part.  I wonder if we will really be
> able to disable it.  Or perhaps we will see a black market develop on
> imported motherboards for those of us that want to maintain real computer
> privacy.

Even MS wants to maintain the illusion of a free market.  Making the chip so 
that Palladium can not be disabled would remove that illusion.

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Re: [newbie] gaim-0.71

2003-10-12 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:46:30 -0400
Heather/Femme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> will gaim allow you to communicate with icq clients on "pvcy" mode?

If by "pvcy" mode you mean encrypted, then yes.
These rpms will allow you to load the encryption-plugin.
Anyone wishing to read must then have the key.

..This may only work if all parties are using gaim.
I don't use an im so can't really say for sure.


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Re: [newbie] annoying alarm on standby.

2003-10-12 Thread ed tharp
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 07:03, Jerry Barton wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:34:36 +0800
> Aidan Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Saturday 11 October 2003 11:33 pm, Charlie M. wrote:
> > Thanks Jerry and Charlie for your responses.
> > I am very new to linux, and so I wouldn't have a clue how to see if I have 
> > gkrellm and lm_sensors running, but I'll certainly explore and see what I can 
> > find.One more question for you, if it is a cpu overheating, I can 
> > understand it doing it after the computer has been on for a while, but why 
> > would it stop again once i press a button on the keyboard to start working 
> > again??
just a guess, the fan is spinning down to save power, but the CPU is not
going all the way to sleep. (zombies?) 



> That sounds like something to do with APM (power saving mode).  It could still be 
> the fan though.  If it's dirty/going out it still could be the cause.  Better to 
> replace a 15 dollar fan than a processor (and the stock fans that come with most 
> computers are really crap anyway).
> I just know what worked for me.  Best of luck with it, Aidan.
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Re: [newbie] gaim-0.71

2003-10-12 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 00:14:33 -0600
Jerry Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> I still seem to be having trouble acessing the archives of the newbie
> list.. What is your site again


See the last last in my sig


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[newbie] Phoenix bios

2003-10-12 Thread John
The newbie mail has provided a lot of info. for me over the last 2 
months. Being new, there is a lot to learn even from the OT mail. 
Example: I have been trying to install md9.1 on a gateway 1450se with xp 
  and phoenix bios. I made the suggested changes in the bios and loaded 
the cd. Instructions were to reboot and md would start installation 
process as it did on my win98 system. Didn't work. You can even indicate 
in the bios whether you have win or other system. I checked several 
mailing lists and there were no problems loading md on other 1450 
laptops. I try to keep everything updated and updated the bios about 4 
months ago. After reading mail about phoenix, it makes you wonder if the 
update was to cut everything out but m$. The only info I have found to 
help points to a "remote control center" which supposedly controls the 
boot process. It is not loaded and was supposed to be on the wn cd. 
Gateway ships their own cd instead of the wn cd and of course it isn't 
on that either. What a tangled web they have weaved. Any help would be 
appreciated on getting md loaded.
More importantly, I wanted you to know that you have one more md 
believer. Your efforts to help and keep us informed are appreciated.
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Re: [newbie] wallpaper

2003-10-12 Thread Liechti

> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/222899/



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Re: [newbie] OT M$ is accepting responsibility?

2003-10-12 Thread Douglas Bainbridge


Hi Franki and Mac,

On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 11:30, HaywireMac wrote: 
> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:48:23 +0800
> Franki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> 
> > If we all tell ten people, and make them feel as strongly about it as
> > we do, they will spread the word also.
> 
> Are you kidding me? I gotta try to control myself to *not* talk about
> this with everyone I meet... ;-)

Do you have a Consumers Association or similar body in the US that could
get fired up about this? 

http://aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html#mspath

I'm going to try to agitate the UK one.

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Re: [newbie] Problems with a web site...

2003-10-12 Thread Douglas Bainbridge
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 09:40, Aron Smith wrote: 
> Crashed me 
> On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 20:52, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > A friend of mine who uses Mozilla is having trouble with a web site:
> > 
> > http://www.qx.net
> > 
> > so I told him I'd try it out. Like him, I can access the main page, but 
> > clicking something like the DSL link immediately crashes Mozilla and Galeon 
> > hard. Konqueror works fine. This is with the stock versions under Mandrake 
> > version 9.1 - anyone have any ideas? Thanks!

Odd. Had no trouble under 9.1 with either Galeon (1.3.5) or Dillo in
accessing any of the links on the main page.

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Re: [newbie] Problems with a web site...

2003-10-12 Thread Ralph Slooten
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:52:18 -0400
"Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> anyone have any ideas?

Stop using that site ;-) ... Usage of crap Java is asking for problems... just
like we have on this site. Yes it crashes here too (Phoenix cvs)... 

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Re: [newbie] getting rid of ads on the web

2003-10-12 Thread Merlin Zener
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 07:46, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> [...snip]
> 
> Femme, in Mozilla : Edit --> Preferences --> Privacy & Security 
> --> Popup windows --> Block unrequested popup windows.
> 

FWIW, in my version of Mozilla it's in a different place:
edit-->preferences-->advanced-->and then unclick "allow scripts to: open
unrequested windows".

I'm using Mozilla ver 1.1.

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Re: [newbie] wallpaper

2003-10-12 Thread Jerry Barton
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:26:24 +0200
Liechti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hi
> does anybody know where to downlaod this wallpaper?
> http://images.mandrakesoft.com/img/screenshots/mdk91-scr2.jpg
> 
> remo
> 
> 

Oh crud i used to have that wallpaper and totally forgot where i got it.  It was in 
either texstar, plf, or contrib somewhere though.  it was in with a whole collection 
of wallpapers.

http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon

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Re: [newbie] wallpaper

2003-10-12 Thread Björn Olsson
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:26:24 +0200 Liechti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hi
> does anybody know where to downlaod this wallpaper?
> http://images.mandrakesoft.com/img/screenshots/mdk91-scr2.jpg
> 
> remo

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/222899/

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Re: [newbie] getting rid of ads on the web

2003-10-12 Thread Jerry Barton
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 04:35:12 -0400
Heather/Femme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> pls be more specific.  your answer is (atm) very unhelpful.
> 
> rtfm/point by point step by step instructions/google Me...whatever...
> 
> but your answer doesn't do me any good as it stands.  sorry... :)
> 
> The Lone Stoned Rangeress Rides Again! 
> 
> 

Sry, Femme, lemme get some links for ya ;-)  (note to self don't try and answer emails 
when half asleep)

This site was the one that helped me most when I first set mine up back in windows 
days as a n00b:

http://www.accs-net.com/hosts/what_is_hosts.html

Other sites of reference:

http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm 

http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/ (an acutal hosts file with explainations you can 
actually copy/paste this one to etc/hosts)

They're a bit windows-centric but it still works with linux's /etc/hosts file

There are also other places to get some hosts files that people have put together.  
(Google "hosts file")

Hope that helps!  

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Re: [newbie] wallpaper

2003-10-12 Thread HaywireMac
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:26:24 +0200
Liechti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> hi
> does anybody know where to downlaod this wallpaper?
> http://images.mandrakesoft.com/img/screenshots/mdk91-scr2.jpg

Deviantart.com will either have it or a very reasonably facsimile.

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Re: [newbie] annoying alarm on standby.

2003-10-12 Thread Jerry Barton
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:34:36 +0800
Aidan Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Saturday 11 October 2003 11:33 pm, Charlie M. wrote:
> Thanks Jerry and Charlie for your responses.
> I am very new to linux, and so I wouldn't have a clue how to see if I have 
> gkrellm and lm_sensors running, but I'll certainly explore and see what I can 
> find.One more question for you, if it is a cpu overheating, I can 
> understand it doing it after the computer has been on for a while, but why 
> would it stop again once i press a button on the keyboard to start working 
> again??

That sounds like something to do with APM (power saving mode).  It could still be the 
fan though.  If it's dirty/going out it still could be the cause.  Better to replace a 
15 dollar fan than a processor (and the stock fans that come with most computers are 
really crap anyway).
I just know what worked for me.  Best of luck with it, Aidan.

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Re: [newbie] wallpaper

2003-10-12 Thread Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner
Am Sonntag, 12. Oktober 2003 10:55 schrieb Heather/Femme:
> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:26:24 +0200
> Liechti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > does anybody know where to downlaod this wallpaper?
> > http://images.mandrakesoft.com/img/screenshots/mdk91-scr2.jpg

> try digital blasphemy.com

> or google for the site.

Did this with GooglePictures and title - no result that matches.

Thorsten


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Re: [newbie] wallpaper

2003-10-12 Thread Heather/Femme
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:26:24 +0200
Liechti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hi
> does anybody know where to downlaod this wallpaper?
> http://images.mandrakesoft.com/img/screenshots/mdk91-scr2.jpg
> 
> remo
> 
> 
try digital blasphemy.com

or google for the site.

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Re: [newbie] getting rid of ads on the web

2003-10-12 Thread robin
Heather/Femme wrote:

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 00:03:11 -0600
Jerry Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

popups weren't the problem it was the other ads.

F

 

Use /etc/hosts (like the windows "HOSTS" file.  

HTH

Jerry.

   

pls be more specific.  your answer is (atm) very unhelpful.

rtfm/point by point step by step instructions/google Me...whatever...

but your answer doesn't do me any good as it stands.  sorry... :)

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I think what Jerry means is to add the names of common sources of 
adverts to you /etc/hosts file, something like this:

127.0.0.1localhost
127.0.0.1ad10.vonna.com
127.0.0.1ad100.erasercash.com
127.0.0.1ad100.paycount.com
127.0.0.1ad100.vonna.com
127.0.0.1ad101.erasercash.com
127.0.0.1ad101.paycount.com
[lots more to follow]
This prevent the ads from loading, because your computer thinks they 
come from itself (localhost).

Someone recently posted a link to a list of addresses.  Just paste them 
into /etc/hosts under the stuff that's already there.

The only problem with this method is that it can sometimes disable 
useful buttons in some commercial sites which rely on external sources 
for their graphics.  I've only encountered this a few times, though.

Sir Robin

--
"I can say: 'Thank these bees for their honey as though they were kind people who have 
prepared it for you'; that is intelligible and describes how I should like you to conduct 
yourself. But I cannot say: 'Thank them because, look, how kind they are!'--since the next 
moment they may sting you.
- Wittgenstein
Robin Turner
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Turkey
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