Re: [newbie] apt-get for Mandrake 10 Official
Greg Meyer wrote: On Sunday 18 July 2004 12:13 pm, Avi Schwartz wrote: What is the advantage apt-get has over urpm*? I used it only for a short amount of time on Debian and as far as I can tell, the urpm* suite of programs seem to be equivalent to apt-get. But as I said, I am not fluent when it comes to apt-get. On the command line, the differences are minimal IMO, but there is a large group of people that prefer the gui frontend called synaptic. I am speaking for them here, but they prefer the integrated functionality as opposed to the simple approach taken by rpmdrake. Personally, it doesn't much matter to me because I work primarily from the command line now, but as they say, difernt strokes for difernt folks. I thought dpkg was one of the things apt-get does that makes it somewhat better. For example, if you install postfix, it stops and asks you for the main settings and then configures it as well so its mostly ready to go as soon as its installed. The first time I played with debian, I was suprised that the installing packages were asking me config questions... its pretty cool. -- rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] dual layer DVD writing.
Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone has had any experiance with dual layer DVD writers on Linux? They are just starting to hit retail shelves now, and handle over 8gig of space.. Very cool for a backup system me thinks. I have some clients that would benefit greatly from this, and I'd like to write a script that backs up their shared folders to a dual layer DVD 3 times a week. but so far I've not been able to find out if any version of cdrecord or anything else is capable of running a dual layer burner. Anyone have any ideas? regards Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)
What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\ Anyone care to shed some light on this ? -- Marc Hultquist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Computerkit Systems (Pty) Ltd http://www.cks.co.za (P) +27 11 695 5317 (F) +27 11 312 1408 (C) +27 82 563 2861 Quote: Its a bad idea for geeks to be on low-carb diets. Low-carb means no sugar, no sugar means cravings, cravings mean a loss of concentration, losing concentration makes geeks irritable and geeks run the computers that run the world's banks and militaries !!! . . . . . . . . YE GODS !!! Give me a frosted chocolate cake before we plunge into anarchy !!! - (c) J.D. Illad Frazer(Userfriendly.org) Confidentiality Notice: The above message and all attachments may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from your computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the view of the entity transmitting the message. Computerkit Retail Systems (Pty) Ltd hereby distances itself from and accepts no liability in respect of the unauthorised use of its e-mail facility or the sending of e-mail communications for other than strictly business purposes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] reading the registers
I am trying to read 80x86 registers but by using "mn.uc_mcontext.gregs.[i]" structure where "mn" and "i" are variables but i could not read "FS, EAX and ECX registers". how i can read these registers. Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign!
Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)
On Monday 19 July 2004 12:19 am, Marc Hultquist wrote: What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\ Anyone care to shed some light on this ? Several theory's Mandrake the Magician Mandrake root Mandrake was often used and referred to in the classical world, where it was said to excite delirium and madness. It was also used to help put one to sleep during intense pain, and was chewed as an mild anaesthetic. Mandrake had a long reputation for being able to expell demons and act as an excorcist. Demons reportedly can not tolerate it's aroma. In both Eastern and Jewish writings there are references to Mandrake as a remover of sterility. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)
On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 09:19, Marc Hultquist wrote: What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\ Anyone care to shed some light on this ? http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/m/mandra10.html Germn. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Blank LogDrake Mail Alerts
On Monday 19 July 2004 01:55 am, Jerry Cornelius wrote: -I asked about this 3 days ago and got one response which didn't help. Every -hour, about 24 times a day (though some are skipped), I'm getting an email -which says it's a logDrake Mail Alert in the subject. The body of the email -has the date and time. There is no other information. - -Is it trying to tell me something? If not, how do I disable this? Isn't -there supposed to be some text telling what the alert is about? - -Here was the latest: - -=-=-= - -*** Sun Jul 18 22:01:00 PDT 2004 *** - -=-=-= - -As someone else pointed out, I already have a clock on my screen, so I don't -need an email bulletin of the time. Sounds like something from /etc/cron.hourly. I'd go in there and check out what is setup. -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SanDisk Cruzer Mini USB Flash Drive
On Monday 19 July 2004 01:32 am, Carl J. Bauman wrote: -Well, thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt, but I'm pretty sure -I just didn't get all of the little wires from the case hooked up to the -right pins on the board. The case cable for the front USB slots has -individual leads for each USB pin on the board and I have big fingers -and bad eyes. It wouldn't be the first time I've screwed up on the -detail work. - -I haven't had time to actually crack open the box and look at it but I -did check the BIOS and everything seems to be enabled there. The mobo -manual doesn't indicate any hardware jumpers. - -Thanks again, -Carl Have you tried something like USBview just to see what it shows? Handy sometimes... :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)
Marc Hultquist wrote: What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\ Anyone care to shed some light on this ? Webster's says, Mandrake \Mandrake\, n. [AS. mandragora, L. mandragoras, fr. Gr. ?: cf. F. mandragore.] 1. (Bot.) A low plant (Mandragora officinarum) of the Nightshade family, having a fleshy root, often forked, and supposed to resemble a man. It was therefore supposed to have animal life, and to cry out when pulled up. All parts of the plant are strongly narcotic. It is found in the Mediterranean region. And shrieks like mandrakes, torn out of the earth, That living mortals, hearing them, run mad. --Shak. Note: The mandrake of Scripture was perhaps the same plant, but proof is wanting. I believe it was used in english medieval times for medicinal purposes. I expect it was an early ruling class version of coke. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] dual layer DVD writing.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 19 July 2004 12:30 am, franki wrote: Hi guys, Howdy. g I was wondering if anyone has had any experiance with dual layer DVD writers on Linux? The drives (a couple so far) or the (non-existent at present) disks? They are just starting to hit retail shelves now, and handle over 8gig of space.. Very cool for a backup system me thinks. Until they've been around for a couple of years I'll keep using a USB drive. At least the technology there is sorta kinda in a way stable and mature. I have some clients that would benefit greatly from this, and I'd like to write a script that backs up their shared folders to a dual layer DVD 3 times a week. but so far I've not been able to find out if any version of cdrecord or anything else is capable of running a dual layer burner. Anyone have any ideas? regards Franki I think it's going to be a wait for wide spread availability of media then instant support as usual Franki. I vaguely recall reading about a project recently so I don't think it will be a long wait. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-15mdk 03:50:07 up 7:28, 0 users, load average: 0.21, 0.18, 0.18 I'm wet! I'm wild! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA+5pzZqvqlrLPr5YRAndKAJ9XSQHEksnj7f/gZNtJsuXDxWtk+QCgjzXb W2LmLrxr2RdA5/U/ygx17ZY= =uefe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SanDisk Cruzer Mini USB Flash Drive
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 19 July 2004 01:32 am, Carl J. Bauman wrote: -Well, thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt, but I'm pretty sure -I just didn't get all of the little wires from the case hooked up to the -right pins on the board. The case cable for the front USB slots has -individual leads for each USB pin on the board and I have big fingers -and bad eyes. It wouldn't be the first time I've screwed up on the -detail work. - -I haven't had time to actually crack open the box and look at it but I -did check the BIOS and everything seems to be enabled there. The mobo -manual doesn't indicate any hardware jumpers. - -Thanks again, -Carl Have you tried something like USBview just to see what it shows? Handy sometimes... :-) I wasn't familiar with USBview until you mentioned it. It does look like a handy tool. My motherboard has 4 onboard USB ports that all face the rear and it also has another USB port header that supports 2 additional ports. I hooked up the front case USB ports to this header but I'm pretty sure I need to redo it. When I plug my SanDisk Cruzer into any of the rear ports, it's immediately recognized, the data is available in /mnt/removeable, and USBview shows the new device. That's just not happening when I plug it into one of the front ports. I'll take a look at how I hooked it up after I get off of work today. Thanks, Carl Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Sylpheed-Claws
Well I hosed my mailbox playing with Dereks instructions for setting up a mailserver. I really need a toybox. I shouldn't be allowed to use the real computer. Anyway, I have everything back except that it won't let me add a filter. Cooker is now coming in to my main folder. I have 5 accounts collected by sylpheed from the isp and our own site. The list mail comes from americanelevatorinspection.com and my isp is comcast.net. Problem seems to be that no matter what account I have active, the filters all set up for comcast.net. Or maybe the problem is that I don't understand the problem. Anyone shed some light here? TIA Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SanDisk Cruzer Mini USB Flash Drive
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 05:15:36 -0500 Carl J. Bauman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 19 July 2004 01:32 am, Carl J. Bauman wrote: -Well, thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt, but I'm pretty sure-I just didn't get all of the little wires from the case hooked up to the-right pins on the board. The case cable for the front USB slots has-individual leads for each USB pin on the board and I have big fingers-and bad eyes. It wouldn't be the first time I've screwed up on the-detail work. - -I haven't had time to actually crack open the box and look at it but I-did check the BIOS and everything seems to be enabled there. The mobo-manual doesn't indicate any hardware jumpers. - -Thanks again, -Carl Have you tried something like USBview just to see what it shows? Handy sometimes... :-) I wasn't familiar with USBview until you mentioned it. It does look like a handy tool. My motherboard has 4 onboard USB ports that all face the rear and it also has another USB port header that supports 2 additional ports. I hooked up the front case USB ports to this header but I'm pretty sure I need to redo it. When I plug my SanDisk Cruzer into any of the rear ports, it's immediately recognized, the data is available in /mnt/removeable, and USBview shows the new device. That's just not happening when I plug it into one of the front ports. I'll take a look at how I hooked it up after I get off of work today. Thanks, Carl Sounds simple. Just face your computer backwards on your desk and all will be well. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] LG HL-DT-ST GCE-8525B
One person mentioned having trouble with this drive, any one else? I was thinking of purchasing one but do not want junk. Thanks in advance. Dale Kosan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Voice mail
Is anyone aware of a good (and easy to install and use) voice mail/fax combination for Mandrake 10? This would be a system that answers the telephone, senses whether it's voice or fax, and reacts accordingly. TIA, Tom Ewald Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign!
Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)
On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 12:49, John Richard Smith wrote: Marc Hultquist wrote: What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\ Anyone care to shed some light on this ? I believe it was used in english medieval times for medicinal purposes. I expect it was an early ruling class version of coke. John Don't forget also that King Features sued Mandrake last year over the use of the name - 'Mandrake the Magician', seems everybody had been confusing the distribution with the comic strip. (That's why I couldn't get 'The Gimp' to work!). *** http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/R/real_wizards/witches_t.html describes mandrake's use by witches - a witch I knew 30 years ago was using it (he ground it to a paste rubbed it on his temples). Through the ages, magic often involved taking drugs and seeing things. Where the druids had ergot and the shamans had mushrooms, witches had mandrake. The mandrake has long been regarded as having magical properties, perhaps because its forked root gives the plant a human-like shape. According to tradition, the plant would scream when it was pulled out of the ground. Consequently, mandrake was not dug up by hand; instead, a dog would be harnessed to the root and encouraged to drag it out of the ground. The mysteries of the mandrake are not limited to its shape. It is related to henbane and deadly nightshade. All three contain a number of very powerful alkaloids. When absorbed into the body, these chemical substances can cause double vision, hallucination and even coma. With their knowledge of the effects of mandrake, witches would have been able to dose themselves to produce the required effects without risking their lives. The witch's cauldron would have been used to boil the herbs in a fatty solution; this produced an ointment that the witch would smear on her body. A trance-like state would follow, with the witch experiencing sensations of flying - this is probably the origin of the familiar imagery of witches flying on broomsticks. Witches, like druids and shamans before them, derived some of their authority from their apparent ability to travel into another world. -- pm The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on. Joseph Heller, Catch 22 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)
Also, go back to the early 1970's.. Anyone remember the group Deep Purple?? Why did they call their track Mandrake Root?? did they know something way back then? JRH - Original Message - From: PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-) On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 12:49, John Richard Smith wrote: Marc Hultquist wrote: What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\ Anyone care to shed some light on this ? I believe it was used in english medieval times for medicinal purposes. I expect it was an early ruling class version of coke. John Don't forget also that King Features sued Mandrake last year over the use of the name - 'Mandrake the Magician', seems everybody had been confusing the distribution with the comic strip. (That's why I couldn't get 'The Gimp' to work!). *** http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/R/real_wizards/witches_t.html describes mandrake's use by witches - a witch I knew 30 years ago was using it (he ground it to a paste rubbed it on his temples). Through the ages, magic often involved taking drugs and seeing things. Where the druids had ergot and the shamans had mushrooms, witches had mandrake. The mandrake has long been regarded as having magical properties, perhaps because its forked root gives the plant a human-like shape. According to tradition, the plant would scream when it was pulled out of the ground. Consequently, mandrake was not dug up by hand; instead, a dog would be harnessed to the root and encouraged to drag it out of the ground. The mysteries of the mandrake are not limited to its shape. It is related to henbane and deadly nightshade. All three contain a number of very powerful alkaloids. When absorbed into the body, these chemical substances can cause double vision, hallucination and even coma. With their knowledge of the effects of mandrake, witches would have been able to dose themselves to produce the required effects without risking their lives. The witch's cauldron would have been used to boil the herbs in a fatty solution; this produced an ointment that the witch would smear on her body. A trance-like state would follow, with the witch experiencing sensations of flying - this is probably the origin of the familiar imagery of witches flying on broomsticks. Witches, like druids and shamans before them, derived some of their authority from their apparent ability to travel into another world. -- pm The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on. Joseph Heller, Catch 22 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Real Audio Player
On Wednesday 14 July 2004 14:42, Graham Watkins wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: Have you tried 'urpmi RealPlayer'? [EMAIL PROTECTED] graham]# urpmi RealPlayer no package named RealPlayer I have now :-) Ok I have RealPlayer [tm] (Unix) Version 8.0.3.421 from powerpack 10.0 Official. So its there somewhere. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] LG HL-DT-ST GCE-8525B
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 19 July 2004 05:05 am, Dale Kosan wrote: One person mentioned having trouble with this drive, any one else? I was thinking of purchasing one but do not want junk. Thanks in advance. Dale Kosan That was me and that problem drive was 1 out of 30 or 40 in the past few months. You should get good service from it Dale, as long as the vagaries of mass production don't bite you as well. I still use them when assembling customer boxen such as this one I'm on now and I still have one in my own system. However; Murphy was a bloody _optomist!_ Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-15mdk 05:36:12 up 9:14, 0 users, load average: 0.25, 0.34, 0.33 It's never too late to have a happy childhood. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA+7LrZqvqlrLPr5YRAkX4AJ4xbFsKDdE4LHQI5zVH8LOsb5wMYwCeJWKf NKsyUN5+TuUnh4iFHSuea68= =Iwt3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Real Audio Player
On Monday 19 July 2004 07:41 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Wednesday 14 July 2004 14:42, Graham Watkins wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: Have you tried 'urpmi RealPlayer'? [EMAIL PROTECTED] graham]# urpmi RealPlayer no package named RealPlayer I have now :-) Ok I have RealPlayer [tm] (Unix) Version 8.0.3.421 from powerpack 10.0 Official. So its there somewhere. real player (being a propertary software as oppossed to open source software) is not included in the free download editions, but if you have PLF configered as a source in urpmi, then it should have no problem being found and installed -- linux counter #167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)
Also, go back to the early 1970's.. Anyone remember the group Deep Purple?? Why did they call their track Mandrake Root?? did they know something way back then? JRH Can't say I was alive back then :-) but yes, maybe its a whole big thing that the developers of MDK Linux were origionally in the band. Maybe not but I am trying to pass time so I can go home ! ;-) -- Marc Hultquist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Computerkit Systems (Pty) Ltd http://www.cks.co.za (P) +27 11 695 5317 (F) +27 11 312 1408 (C) +27 82 563 2861 Quote: Its a bad idea for geeks to be on low-carb diets. Low-carb means no sugar, no sugar means cravings, cravings mean a loss of concentration, losing concentration makes geeks irritable and geeks run the computers that run the world's banks and militaries !!! . . . . . . . . YE GODS !!! Give me a frosted chocolate cake before we plunge into anarchy !!! - (c) J.D. Illad Frazer(Userfriendly.org) Confidentiality Notice: The above message and all attachments may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copy or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the material from your computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the view of the entity transmitting the message. Computerkit Retail Systems (Pty) Ltd hereby distances itself from and accepts no liability in respect of the unauthorised use of its e-mail facility or the sending of e-mail communications for other than strictly business purposes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] apt-get for Mandrake 10 Official
On Jul 19, 2004, at 1:25, frankieh wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Sunday 18 July 2004 12:13 pm, Avi Schwartz wrote: What is the advantage apt-get has over urpm*? I used it only for a short amount of time on Debian and as far as I can tell, the urpm* suite of programs seem to be equivalent to apt-get. But as I said, I am not fluent when it comes to apt-get. On the command line, the differences are minimal IMO, but there is a large group of people that prefer the gui frontend called synaptic. I am speaking for them here, but they prefer the integrated functionality as opposed to the simple approach taken by rpmdrake. Personally, it doesn't much matter to me because I work primarily from the command line now, but as they say, difernt strokes for difernt folks. I thought dpkg was one of the things apt-get does that makes it somewhat better. For example, if you install postfix, it stops and asks you for the main settings and then configures it as well so its mostly ready to go as soon as its installed. The first time I played with debian, I was suprised that the installing packages were asking me config questions... its pretty cool. OK, now I understand and I agree on both items. While I never used synaptic, I did use SuSE for few years and their installer (YAST) is integrated which is much nicer in my opinion. As for dpkg, yet this is nice indeed. Now I remember that it did this for me as well, stop and ask for configuration settings during the install. BTW, I remember that at least on some occasions, YAST did this as well in SuSE so it may be something that can be added to the RPMs, like a post-install configuration step. Avi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)
On Monday 19 July 2004 08:33 am, Marc Hultquist wrote: Also, go back to the early 1970's.. Anyone remember the group Deep Purple?? Why did they call their track Mandrake Root?? did they know something way back then? JRH Can't say I was alive back then :-) but yes, maybe its a whole big thing that the developers of MDK Linux were origionally in the band. Maybe not but I am trying to pass time so I can go home ! ;-) hey Marc, can I invite you over to the OT list? where we attempt to keep the none Mandrake related stuff off the tech lists? it's pretty quite there today, but is a ?decent? bunch, that have not robbed a freight train (this morning anyway). [EMAIL PROTECTED], should get you a conformation that you want to join, ifn you send a message. -- linux counter #167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] reading the registers
On Monday 19 July 2004 03:46 am, kokab waqas wrote: I am trying to read 80x86 registers but by using mn.uc_mcontext.gregs.[i] structure where mn and i are variables but i could not read FS, EAX and ECX registers. how i can read these registers. I think that a more appropriate place to ask this question is at least the expert list, but since it is not even mandrake related, you might get more useful info on one of the more generic linux mailing lists. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] qt3 libJpeg Errors...
Hi, I'm trying to install a program from source (qsstv, used for sending still images over radio), and Im getting qt3 and libjpeg errors. It's funny, as I'm trying to install Apollon from source, and getting exactly the same error. I'm running 10CE, with every available update installed. Can anyone tell me where things are going wrong? config.log and shell output is pasted below. Many Thanks, JRH int main() { jpeg_CreateDecompress(0L, 0, 0); ; return 0; } configure: 5248: /usr/include/jpeglib.h configure: 5248: /usr/local/include/jpeglib.h configure:5362: checking for Qt configure: 5424: /usr/lib/qt3//include/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/lib/qt3//qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/lib/qt2/include/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/lib/qt2/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/lib/qt/include/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/lib/qt/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/local/qt/include/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/include/qt/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/include/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/X11R6/include/X11/qt/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/X11R6/include/qt/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/X11R6/include/qt2/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/X11R6/include/qstyle.h tried NO tried /usr/lib/qt3//lib tried /usr/lib/qt3/ tried /usr/lib/qt2/lib tried /usr/lib/qt2 tried /usr/lib/qt/lib tried /usr/lib/qt tried /usr/X11R6/lib tried /usr/lib tried /usr/local/qt/lib tried /usr/X11R6/lib configure:5523: rm -rf SunWS_cache; c++ -o conftest -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -INO -I/usr/X11R6/include -LNONE -L/usr/X11R6/lib conftest.C -lqt -lpng -lz -lm -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -lresolv 15 conftest.C:2:21: qglobal.h: No such file or directory conftest.C:3:26: qapplication.h: No such file or directory conftest.C:4:20: qevent.h: No such file or directory conftest.C:5:21: qstring.h: No such file or directory conftest.C:6:20: qstyle.h: No such file or directory conftest.C:7:23: qiconview.h: No such file or directory conftest.C:9:2: #error 1 configure: failed program was: #include confdefs.h #include qglobal.h #include qapplication.h #include qevent.h #include qstring.h #include qstyle.h #include qiconview.h #if ! (QT_VERSION = 222) #error 1 #endif int main() { QStringList *t = new QStringList(); QIconView iv(0); iv.setWordWrapIconText(false); QString s; s.setLatin1(Elvis is alive, 14); int magnolia = QEvent::Speech; /* new in 2.2 beta2 */ return 0; } And the shell output: (the relevant bit, anyhows!) checking for X... libraries /usr/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes checking for libXext... yes checking for Xinerama... no checking for libpng... -lpng -lz -lm checking for libjpeg6b... no checking for libjpeg... no configure: warning: libjpeg not found. disable JPEG support. checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (= Qt 2.2.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log. [EMAIL PROTECTED] qsstv-5.1a]# Libqt libjpeg are showing as installed on my system! Help! -- Sent using Kmail, on Mandrake Linux 10CE Microsoft: Which Virus Would You Like to Catch Today? Registered Linux User #340061 73 de M3GXQ Yaesu FT-902DM HF, 40/20/15/10m Dipole Yaesu FT-7800E VHF/UHF, Dual band Co Linear 15:15:00 up 1:06, 0 users, load average: 0.56, 0.59, 0.63 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] qt3 libJpeg Errors...
Dnia sob 17. lipca 2004 16:19, JRH napisa: Hi, I'm trying to install a program from source (qsstv, used for sending still images over radio), and Im getting qt3 and libjpeg errors. It's funny, as I'm trying to install Apollon from source, and getting exactly the same error. I'm running 10CE, with every available update installed. Can anyone tell me where things are going wrong? To compile you have to have devel packages of both, qt3 and libjpeg... It may also be a problem of finding them, try exporting QTDIR (dunno what to export for libjpeg). But first make sure you have devel packages... -- Cezary 'Thereidos' Morga [EMAIL PROTECTED] GG# 169903 ICQ# 328-700-565 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] qt3 libJpeg Errors...
On Saturday 17 July 2004 10:19 am, JRH wrote: Hi, I'm trying to install a program from source (qsstv, used for sending still images over radio), and Im getting qt3 and libjpeg errors. It's funny, as I'm trying to install Apollon from source, and getting exactly the same error. I'm running 10CE, with every available update installed. Can anyone tell me where things are going wrong? config.log and shell output is pasted below. Many Thanks, JRH int main() { jpeg_CreateDecompress(0L, 0, 0); ; return 0; } configure: 5248: /usr/include/jpeglib.h configure: 5248: /usr/local/include/jpeglib.h configure:5362: checking for Qt configure: 5424: /usr/lib/qt3//include/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/lib/qt3//qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/lib/qt2/include/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/lib/qt2/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/lib/qt/include/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/lib/qt/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/local/qt/include/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/include/qt/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/include/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/X11R6/include/X11/qt/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/X11R6/include/qt/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/X11R6/include/qt2/qstyle.h configure: 5424: /usr/X11R6/include/qstyle.h tried NO tried /usr/lib/qt3//lib tried /usr/lib/qt3/ tried /usr/lib/qt2/lib tried /usr/lib/qt2 tried /usr/lib/qt/lib tried /usr/lib/qt tried /usr/X11R6/lib tried /usr/lib tried /usr/local/qt/lib tried /usr/X11R6/lib Here it was searching for qt. configure:5523: rm -rf SunWS_cache; c++ -o conftest -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -INO -I/usr/X11R6/include -LNONE -L/usr/X11R6/lib conftest.C -lqt -lpng -lz -lm -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -lresolv 15 conftest.C:2:21: qglobal.h: No such file or directory conftest.C:3:26: qapplication.h: No such file or directory conftest.C:4:20: qevent.h: No such file or directory conftest.C:5:21: qstring.h: No such file or directory conftest.C:6:20: qstyle.h: No such file or directory conftest.C:7:23: qiconview.h: No such file or directory conftest.C:9:2: #error 1 configure: failed program was: #include confdefs.h #include qglobal.h #include qapplication.h #include qevent.h #include qstring.h #include qstyle.h #include qiconview.h #if ! (QT_VERSION = 222) This is the version of qt the program is compiled against. #error 1 #endif int main() { QStringList *t = new QStringList(); QIconView iv(0); iv.setWordWrapIconText(false); QString s; s.setLatin1(Elvis is alive, 14); int magnolia = QEvent::Speech; /* new in 2.2 beta2 */ return 0; } And the shell output: (the relevant bit, anyhows!) checking for X... libraries /usr/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes checking for libXext... yes checking for Xinerama... no checking for libpng... -lpng -lz -lm checking for libjpeg6b... no checking for libjpeg... no configure: warning: libjpeg not found. disable JPEG support. checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (= Qt 2.2.2) (headers and The configure script could not find qt 2.2.2 on your system so it stopped. libraries) not found. Please check your installation! For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log. [EMAIL PROTECTED] qsstv-5.1a]# Libqt libjpeg are showing as installed on my system! Help! So what it says is it needs qt 2.2.2 in order to compile. You probably have a newer version of qt on your system so the configure script stops when it does not find the right version. For libjpeg you are probably missing a devel file such as libjpeg-devel-x HTH Regards, Dan Gordon -- Mon Jul 19 11:11:15 EDT 2004 11:11:15 up 11:11, 0 users, load average: 0.21, 0.16, 0.07 I love ROCK 'N ROLL! I memorized the all WORDS to WIPE-OUT in 1965!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Big troubles after re-partitioning
Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Sunday 18 July 2004 05:53 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: snip Try booting to DOS, and run fdisk /mbr and see if that fixes it. (Undocumented option in DOS fdisk to restore the Master Boot Record.) Mikkel Mikkel: I believe that in the newer versions of Windows the command is now fixmbr. The new name is yet another Microsoft innovation aimed at improving the user experience; less keystrokes, and no more searches for that pesky / thing. Ah, progress. -- cmg Thanks for the update - I may need it one of these days. I don't have much experence with Windows past 98... Maybe I will buy my next machine with XP installed, just so I can play with it... (Novel concept - buying a complete machine from one place, complete with OS installed...) :) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] qt3 libJpeg Errors...
On Monday 19 Jul 2004 16:20, Dan Gordon wrote: So what it says is it needs qt 2.2.2 in order to compile. You probably have a newer version of qt on your system so the configure script stops when it does not find the right version. For libjpeg you are probably missing a devel file such as libjpeg-devel-x HTH Regards, Dan Gordon Hi Dan, Yes, the libjpeg was an error on my part, and the appropriate devel installed, got over the problem. However, on the qt front, I do indeed have a newer version of qt installed. The problem being, I cant install the earlier version, as in order to do so, software installer wants to remove virtually the whole of KDE, owing to dependencies. Looks like it's going to be a non starter then! Cheers, JRH -- Sent using Kmail, on Mandrake Linux 10CE Microsoft: Which Virus Would You Like to Catch Today? Registered Linux User #340061 73 de M3GXQ Yaesu FT-902DM HF, 40/20/15/10m Dipole Yaesu FT-7800E VHF/UHF, Dual band Co Linear 17:31:22 up 19 min, 0 users, load average: 0.53, 0.66, 0.46 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10 Official Speedtouch USB
It would appear that I have found a solution to the problem! I know there are a few people who have had problems getting 10OE on the net with the Alcatel Speedtouch USB ADSL modem, so this is how I did it! Before upgrading, go to one of the 10 Community update FTP sites, and get a copy of the Speedtouch Beta RPM (must be this one, the one on the 10CE CD wont work), and the updated PPP and PPP_PPPOA RPM's. Upgrade, and then use RpmDrake to uninstall the Speedtouch, ppp and ppp_pppoa packages that came with 10 Official. Use Software installer to install the 3 new RPM's (just double click the RPM files). Job done. Go into Drakconf, and enter New Connection, and set up the connection as you normally would. Job done. To test, in a console, as root, go to /usr/share/speedtouch/ and make sure that mgmt.o is still there. If it is, type ./speedtouch.sh start. You should be on the net! JRH -- Sent using Kmail, on Mandrake Linux 10CE Microsoft: Which Virus Would You Like to Catch Today? Registered Linux User #340061 73 de M3GXQ Yaesu FT-902DM HF, 40/20/15/10m Dipole Yaesu FT-7800E VHF/UHF, Dual band Co Linear 17:31:49 up 20 min, 0 users, load average: 0.48, 0.63, 0.46 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] qt3 libJpeg Errors...
On Saturday 17 July 2004 12:31 pm, JRH wrote: Hi Dan, Yes, the libjpeg was an error on my part, and the appropriate devel installed, got over the problem. However, on the qt front, I do indeed have a newer version of qt installed. The problem being, I cant install the earlier version, as in order to do so, software installer wants to remove virtually the whole of KDE, owing to dependencies. Looks like it's going to be a non starter then! This is the main reason I have begun to try to stick with prebuilt rpms for the version of mandrake i am running. I have had the same problems as you with compiling programs. Its a bummer but Regards, Dan Gordon -- Mon Jul 19 13:13:05 EDT 2004 13:13:05 up 13:13, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 Actors will happen even in the best-regulated families. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] XFree or Xorg?
Can someone provide info regarding switching from XFree86 to Xorg? I've been trying for day to get it working properly, and I'm still stumped. I'm running an ATI Radeon 9200SE AGP video card with 128MB onboard ram. XFree86 is installed and running, but I can't find the DRI module anywhere. It seems that without that module, I'm not going to get OpenGL to work. At the same time, Xorg running on another box, driving an NVidia card is detecting the card properly and loading the proper OpenGL driver module. Even so, Xorg refuses to give me OpenGL on the ATI card, and the drivers at ATI's site don't seem to be usable with XFree86-4.4.0 . Which version of which system should I be running on mandrake 10.0 Official that will allow me to finally get OpenGL working? Also, if I migrate to Xorg, is there a new config file to set up, and if so, what's the procedure? I'm getting a little peeved at running a Vesa module for this card, and any help would be greatly appreciated. My eyes are turning into little brown wrinkled raisins! Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] LG HL-DT-ST GCE-8525B
Dale Kosan wrote: One person mentioned having trouble with this drive, any one else? I was thinking of purchasing one but do not want junk. Thanks in advance. I have had an LG GCE-8160B CD burner for 3 years, running under windoze98. So far, it has been problem-free. Don't buy an LG front-loading washing machine though, unless you are prepared to chain it to a wall . . . they cannot balance the load adequately before spin dry. We now have an Asko. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: Setting up Java
Thereidos wrote: Dnia pon 19. lipca 2004 22:33, Marco Verheul napisa?: Hi all, I'm looking for clues on how to set up Java (runtime environment) on my mdk 10.0 box in such a way that: 1. multiple applications can use it (Opera / BitTorrent client...) 2. I know where to find it, in other words, where/how to install it Cheers, Marco I've done it this way: Downloaded J2RE from their site (Sun's ?) in a rpm package.. installed it and added to $PATH variable in ~/.bash_profile line : /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_04/bin Now It looks like this : PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin:/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_04/bin export PATH You'll have to logout and login to your user account to make it work, or after adding the above to ~/.bash_profile you can type : export PATH=$PATH::/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_04/bin You'll have to add same path to $PATH variable for each user account... Of course in Opera you'll need to type Java path in Preferences -- Multimedia. It's something like this : /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_04/lib/i386 Make sure to validate java path. I add /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_04/bin to ~/.bashrc Then in shell type: source ~/.bashrc Now all changes to bashrc are available in the user environment. -- John Zoetebier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Burning Cue/Bin images
Hello All, I have a cue and bin file of a movie and everytime I try to burn it, the cd gets ejected and k3b tells me it has burnt successfully. After 3 seconds I doubt it very much. Has anyone else found this problem and overcome it? Regards Trevor Rhodes === Powered by Linux-Mandrake 10.0 Registered Linux user # 290542 at http://counter.li.org Registered Machine #'s 186951 = Mandrake Club Silver Member Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. gpg --recv-keys --keyserver hkp://pgp.mit.edu 94C29CF3 === 13:38:49 up 3 days, 4:18, 0 users, load average: 1.19, 1.18, 1.19 -- Never mud wrestle with a pig.. you get dirty and the pig enjoys it! Never try to teach a pig to dance. You waste your time and annoy the pig. Theoretically pigs can fly if propelled with enough force. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Blank LogDrake Mail Alerts
On Monday 19 July 2004 01:35 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: -I asked about this 3 days ago and got one response which didn't help. Every -hour, about 24 times a day (though some are skipped), I'm getting an email -which says it's a logDrake Mail Alert in the subject. The body of the email -has the date and time. There is no other information. - -Is it trying to tell me something? If not, how do I disable this? Isn't -there supposed to be some text telling what the alert is about? Sounds like something from /etc/cron.hourly. I'd go in there and check out what is setup. Ron, I was doubtful, but here's my logdrake_service and it DOES look like it's set up to send a blank email every hour! I know nothing about scripting, is there an if/then statement missing? I certainly didn't change anything, any ideas how this happened? Any advice appreciated -- another 24 blank emails today. grin =-=-= [EMAIL PROTECTED] cron.hourly]$ cat logdrake_service #!/usr/bin/perl # generated by logdrake use MDK::Common; my $r = *** . chomp_(`date`) . ***\n; #- check services $r .= Service postfix (Postfix Mail Server is not running)\n unless -e /var/lock/subsys/postfix; $r .= Service xinetd (Xinetd Service is not running)\n unless -e /var/lock/subsys/xinetd; #- load my ($load) = split ' ', first(cat_(/proc/loadavg)); $r .= Load is huge: $load\n if $load 3; #- report it my $email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; local *F; open F, '|/usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -t'; print F q(Subject: logdrake Mail Alert From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ), $email\n; print F $r; [EMAIL PROTECTED] cron.hourly] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] More updates
Updates for Mdk 10.0 ImageMagick-6.0.3.3-0.1plf.cae.i586.rpm ImageMagick-doc-6.0.3.3-0.1plf.cae.i586.rpm avifile-divx4-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm avifile-lame-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm avifile-player-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm avifile-samples-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm avifile-win32-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm avifile-xvid-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm cowsay-3.03-8.9mdk.noarch.rpm dlume-0.2.4-0.1mdk.i586.rpm drakcowsay-0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm libavifile0.7-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm libavifile0.7-devel-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm libaviplayavcodec0.7-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm libMagick6.3.0-6.0.3.3-0.1plf.cae.i586.rpm libMagick6.3.0-devel-6.0.3.3-0.1plf.cae.i586.rpm perl-Magick-6.0.3.3-0.1plf.cae.i586.rpm subtitleripper-0.6.12-6.7plf.cae.i586.rpm transcode-0.6.12-6.7plf.cae.i586.rpm Charles -- When you become used to never being alone, you may consider yourself Americanized. -- Mandrake Linux 10.0 on BigBoy #184142 Registered Linux user #182463 *http://www.eslrahc.com* 2.6.5-1.tmb.6mdkenterprise -- pgpyf9SuMY1th.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] More updates
On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 14:58, Charles A Edwards wrote: Updates for Mdk 10.0 ImageMagick-6.0.3.3-0.1plf.cae.i586.rpm ImageMagick-doc-6.0.3.3-0.1plf.cae.i586.rpm avifile-divx4-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm avifile-lame-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm avifile-player-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm avifile-samples-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm avifile-win32-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm avifile-xvid-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm cowsay-3.03-8.9mdk.noarch.rpm dlume-0.2.4-0.1mdk.i586.rpm drakcowsay-0.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm libavifile0.7-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm libavifile0.7-devel-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm libaviplayavcodec0.7-0.7.39-0.20040607.1.2plf.i586.rpm libMagick6.3.0-6.0.3.3-0.1plf.cae.i586.rpm libMagick6.3.0-devel-6.0.3.3-0.1plf.cae.i586.rpm perl-Magick-6.0.3.3-0.1plf.cae.i586.rpm subtitleripper-0.6.12-6.7plf.cae.i586.rpm transcode-0.6.12-6.7plf.cae.i586.rpm Charles Charles, you're always brilliant. Can you do an RPM for xfce4-taskbar-plugin ?? (grin) stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Certified virus-free since we don't use Microsoft products That's the thing about people who think they hate computers. What they really hate is lousy programmers. -- Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle in Oath of Fealty Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] More updates
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:16:58 +1000 Stephen Kuhn wrote: Can you do an RPM for xfce4-taskbar-plugin ?? (grin) Would you like to borrow my glasses It's already on my site http://www.eslrahc.com/10.0/xfce-taskbar-0.1.0-1mdk.i586.rpm Charles -- You need no longer worry about the future. This time tomorrow you'll be dead. -- Mandrake Linux 10.0 on BigBoy #184142 Registered Linux user #182463 *http://www.eslrahc.com* 2.6.5-1.tmb.6mdkenterprise -- pgp9Udqe47sLY.pgp Description: PGP signature