RE: [newbie] Music Composer?
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, RICHARD FRIEDMAN wrote: Thanks. I was hoping someone could give me a lead on some software available commercially since, at the moment, I don't have Internet access other than email. http://linux.com/columns.phtml?sid=94aid=7619 That mentions some different packages. I think youre gonna be out of luck as far as commercial pakcages. I believe Logic and Nuendo are going to hit BeOS but no word for linux. . .
Re: [newbie] 3D modelers
On Sat, 05 Feb 2000, jerlin wrote: OK, i know that linux has some great grass roots type of 3d modelers, which all are great, (well the ones i have tried :) but i`m looking for something like 3d studio max or lightwave. I read that Houdini has a port to linux, but then I used to use MAX trueSpace Softimage and Lightwave3D and im finding that blender is a more than adequate substitute. . .the UI is loopy but its overall pretty cool i think. . .
[newbie] Help Me test a theme please!
Greets all. . .Inspired by the rather excellent article in the recent Linux Journal on creating KDE themes i went ahead and gave it my hand. I was wondering if some of you would mind giving it a look and offering some input as to appearance. . .a little background. The theme is called Cyber Space (i actually had no idea there was a theme based on the matrix when i started designing it so im not trying to bite off of anyone else's work:), and basically my inspiro for it was back in the days of green screen terminal command line based internet, tho with linux i can relive those days all owver again(: The theme is in what i would call its first acceptable beta and as such lacks things like Wallpaper, preview and sounds. My main concern is with the gfx looking decent and the color scheme coming up properly. I apologize for forwarding it to the list, but its only like a ~2k attachment so i hope it wont cause any major problems. Thanks all! CSpace.tar.gz
Re: [newbie] A new convert to Linux
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, RICHARD FRIEDMAN wrote: Now, if only we can get a port of High Heat Baseball, the Friedman household will be in heaven. :-) Head over to tuxgames.com and add it to their petitions page
[newbie] Installing a New Distro
Is it possible to install a new linux distribution but still retain all my personal files. . .ie crossgrade i guess is what im asking. Thanks all.
Re: [newbie] LinuxWorld
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Alex V Flinsch wrote: Both the LinuxWorld and Mandrake websites say they will be there. I just got my tickets in the mail today, anyone else on the list going? Sounds like fun. . .well if microsoft ever allows a linux event in the seattle area ill be there. . .
Re: [newbie] upgrades
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, M Thompson wrote: MDK 6.5 doesn't exist. Macmillan took Mandrake 6.1, put it in a shrink wrap package, and then called it Mandrake 6.5. Actually they called it Macmillan Complete Linux 6.5. The box very clearly states that it is Mandrake v6.1
Re: [newbie] is linux meant to be slow??
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Josh McCaffrey wrote: desired results. There has never been any intention to make Linux perform well for everybody straight out of the box. Tho i think we are seeing that change more and more with Things like lizard and such. . .me personally, when i installed mdk the first time it worked great. . .of course alot of my hardware is so old, linux was probably very happy with my machine(:-D
[newbie] Linux + Mainstream
Greets all! In real life i work at a Costco Warehouse, for those who dont know, its a warehouse store similar to Sam's Club. As i was walking the floor today i noticed that we started selling MacMillian(sp) Complete Linux 6.5. Right next to Win98 Upgd. How's that for mainstream? God grant Win98 boxes outnumbered Linux boxes by a factor greater than 2 to 1 but its a start eh?
Re: [newbie] Cut Paste
On Sun, 02 Jan 2000, heretic wrote: On Mon, 03 Jan 2000, you wrote: is there a way to cut and paste between kmail and netscape? I can cut from netscape and paste to kmail but the reverse for some reason is not true. . . To paste in nutscraper use your third mouse button, if you have set 2-button mouse to emulate the 3-button mouse then to paste simply hold both buttons down simultaneously. Regards Eero Have already tried that many times but thanks for the suggestion. . .anyone else have any ideas?
Re: [newbie] Quake ]I[
On Mon, 01 Feb 1999, Sam Walker wrote: I got RR Tycoon II Gold Edition from my kids for Christmas. It works better than the windows version. The play area scrolls faster and it MULTITASKS- this is cool. Right on. . .yah im noticing little things like that between q3win and q3linux. .. .Its actually a pretty convincing argument when you see one version stutter every so often and one version run pretty smoothly. . . i got H2 i guess about a week before i got q3 and i gotta say loki's doin some serious work there. . .im pretty excited to see what comes out of next year from them. . .Draeker is sayin something like 16 games for next year. . .col. Cool games + XF86 4 = good stuff (i hope!).
Re: [newbie] Programming on Linux
On Sun, 02 Jan 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I need to do to compile a c++ program? I have a compiler, and edited and saved a source file using some really lame text editor. Whats next? The --? argument's answers weren't very helpful. Probably some of the more useful options are -o, -I, -L and -l. -o lets you specify an output file, otherwise the compiler will default to an a.out binary. -I and -L let you specify the locations of include files and library files respectively, useful if you have libraries or headers built outside of the default dirs and -l lets you specify a certain libFile to link against. Usually you can bypass -L by symlinking to /lib/whatever or /usr/lib/whatever or adding the path to the LD_LIBRARY_PATH var. So for example we have a program called. . .magic_box1.c that uses OpenGL (Mesa) libraries. To compile and link it we would say: gcc -o magic_box1 -lglut -lGL -lGLU -lMesaGL -lMesaGLU magic_box1.c The order isnt really important ie you could put the source file first then the options and the output file or whatever. . .hope that helps. . .
[newbie] Cut Paste
is there a way to cut and paste between kmail and netscape? I can cut from netscape and paste to kmail but the reverse for some reason is not true. . .
Re: [newbie] Programming on Linux
On Sun, 02 Jan 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I need to do to compile a c++ program? I have a compiler, and edited and saved a source file using some really lame text editor. Whats next? The --? argument's answers weren't very helpful. Probably some of the more useful options are -o, -I, -L and -l. -o lets you specify an output file, otherwise the compiler will default to an a.out binary. -I and -L let you specify the locations of include files and library files respectively, useful if you have libraries or headers built outside of the default dirs and -l lets you specify a certain libFile to link against. Usually you can bypass -L by symlinking to /lib/whatever or /usr/lib/whatever or adding the path to the LD_LIBRARY_PATH var. So for example we have a program called. . .magic_box1.c that uses OpenGL (Mesa) libraries. To compile and link it we would say: gcc -o magic_box1 -lglut -lGL -lGLU -lMesaGL -lMesaGLU magic_box1.c The order isnt really important ie you could put the source file first then the options and the output file or whatever. . .hope that helps. . .
Re: [newbie] OpenGL and Xfree86
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: In a console run "gears" and then "glx gears" and you should see the improvement. then read the code for gears and go. . .ohhh my god. . .when you realize that some dude took the time to figure out how to build each gear using calls to glBegin(GL_QUADS|GL_QUAD_STRIP) (yah i kno you cant call that but for simplicity eh?). . .definitely worthy of props. . .
[newbie] Quake ]I[
So whose got their copy of quake iii? Who says linux cant be a gaming platform. . .
Re: [newbie] Quake ]I[
On Sat, 01 Jan 2000, G_REEPER wrote: got the winblows ver, haven't found the linux boxed set yet. steven Not surprising. . .i only found one copy in most of the lesser puget sound area. . .Was kinda funny actually the one copy my eb had was on hold for some dude who didnt know what linux was but reserved a copy anyway cuz he wanted a tin box. . .then he decided he didnt want it. . .workd out nicely! Hope eveyone had a happy new year. . .a new millennium(sp?) is almost upon us, fraught with questions like. . .will runlevel 4 ever be defined?
Re: Re: [newbie] OpenGL and Xfree86
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, there is no such beast as a tnt driver for Ogl for Xi software. true but in having it at least youd get the free update when it is supported. .. .
Re: [newbie] OpenGL and Xfree86
On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Cyril wrote: 2- I would like to test the TNT with an OpenGL program. So how can I install OpenGL ? Is it part of Xfree86 There are 3 ways to do this. . .probably the best way to do it right now is visit mesa3d.org. If you can get Mesa31beta-3, grab that. . .31 final is a bit buggy when it comes to building. . .From looking at the makefile there is no specific option to build Mesa for a tnt, but that's not really a huge issue. . .any app is going to request libGL which will probably end up being symlinked to libMesaGL and its friends anyway sooo. . . Alternately you can visit nvidia.com and check out their linux offering. Note that neither one of these offers true hardware accelerated OpenGL support but i believe the nvidia vel does offer hardware GLX support. . . third would be to purchase Xi Graphics OpenGL Accelerated X Server. 99.95 but if your a hardcore gamel ol developer it migt be worth it. . . 3- could you please give me the address of a very simple OpenGL program that could test the board ? Mesa comes with a bunch of demos that should do the trick. . .
[newbie] Thots on y2k
http://www.osopinion.com/Opinions/DeanPannell/DeanPannell4.html Happy new year all. . .XFree86 4 and kernel 2.4!
Re: [newbie] I need help !
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am Daniel Monette and i build linux 2 days ago. I have Mandrake 6.0. I tried to install and, each time, the installation quit cause: Signal 11 and Read Header *** Greetings. . .i had the same issue running a k62 450 with some apps the wonderful and all too frequent sig11 exit. A more cost effectiv method of dealing with this might be this: go into bios and disable anything that refers to cache. If that fixes the problem, go back into bios and play around with your cache options. You should be able to enable some of them. This worked for me. . . ALso you might check the SIG11 FAQ.
Re: [newbie] Using QT
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Alex V Flinsch wrote: The undefined reference in the message is pointing back to an object file, more likely the problem is a missing library in your link path. Yah. . .it might just be a case of typing g++ whatever whatever -lrequired libfile etc. . .
Re: [newbie] Using QT
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Jim Ockers wrote: Okay, thanks for the .bash_profile hints. I have successfully configured and "make"(d) the QT Toolkit. Now trying to run through the "Hello World" tutorial. Checked many times for syntax errors but I still get the following error when I try to compile with "g++ hello.cc": /tmp/ccz3wtnp.o: In function `main': /tmp/ccz3wtnp.o(.text+0x17): undefined reference to `QApplication::QApplication( /tmp/ccz3wtnp.o(.text+0x2b): undefined reference to `QString::QString(char const *)' /tmp/ccz3wtnp.o(.text+0x47): undefined reference to `QPushButton::QPushButton(QString const , QWidget *, char const *)' /tmp/ccz3wtnp.o(.text+0x72): undefined reference to `QPushButton::resize(int, int)' /tmp/ccz3wtnp.o(.text+0x85): undefined reference to `QApplication::setMainWidget(QWidget *)' ..clipped the remainder Any more hints? Thanks, -Jim Ockers that sounds like a missing or incorrect include statement. . .if you dont mind posting or emailing me your code i can sift through it and see if i find anything. . .
Re: [newbie] RE: Source Code
On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: windows doesn't cut it... Truer words have never been spoken
Re: [newbie] Difference Bet. Redhat and Mandrake
At 07:22 PM 12/23/1999 -0600, you wrote: Could someone please explain to me what the main differences are between Mandrake and Redhat? I believe at this point rh is using a different (well not Different perse) file system. . . alot of packages you can get for mandrake also have 586 optimizations. . .
Re: [newbie] Books.
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, jeff wrote: posted for fear of being laughed at.. I don't think these people will do that. I know I have made a few simple posts, and all I received was allot of help. ah. . .you must have missed that whole Subj:[newbie]Kernel thing that just transpired. . .
[newbie] geForce X Server
For anyone curious, there is now an X server for the geForce. Its available at: http://www.s2.org/~jpaana/nv/ enjoy. . .it lacks Mesa or GL support tho, so no hi poly linuxq3 just yet):
Re: [newbie] Happy Holidays....
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Gustaf Barkstrom wrote: Merry X-Windowsmas Linux newbies! Actually it would be just as proper to say Merry X-Mas. Alot of linux purists dont like the referral "X Windows". From what i understand, that's part of the reason its called X. you could also say Merry X11-mas or Merry XFree86-mas (that actually has a nice ring!). On the subj of books, i saw a really neat one today called Linux: I didnt know you could do that. . .its really simple exlpnations of some fairly complex tasks. . . -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Site/List "We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project!" ---| http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie| http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl| ---|
Re: [newbie] newbie horrors (was Kernel)
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: call me crazy, I LIKE learning how things work. And if I know how something works, I have to mess w/ it (sometimes screwing it up;-) to make it work better (or differently). I've only had a computer for a little over 3yrs now (I'm 22), and half the fun has been about problem solving. I'm not the network administrator in an office and I don't have to have the hottest new games... so, where do I fit in? Am I just a geek or what? Later -Josh Join the club dude. . .i think the politically correct term is "hobbyist". Hehe, nothin wrosng with that. But i know what your sayin. Ive been messin with computer since i was 6, been programming about that long, building for a few years, etc. . .its fun. Linux is neat in that respect. . .lets u play around with it. if ya really want to learn about the internal workings of linux, you should read maurice bach's book (Design of the UNIX operating system) and The Linux Kernel book. . .both great reads. -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Site/List "We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project!" ---| http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie| http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl| ---|
Re: [newbie] A question (kinda long)
On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. wrote: First there is the reason Linux is so difficult for the new user. Linux does not try to support all hardware combinations imaginable, and it only installs support for what is really needed on the system (I'm guessing here). Yah also linux handles hardware communication more efficiently than win. Lots o' 1s and 0s get lost in Windows's software layer between the main OS and the hardware, which i suspect is also one of the reasons Windows is so bloated. I mean it's alot easier to just open a file and then write out data to the open file descriptor (as linux does) rather than talking to a driver which in turn interprets that to the hardware. . .there's a great description of device file handling in Linux Programming Unleashed if anyone wants more specifics. . . Second and I suspect the real reason for stability is the fact that Linux starts in "protected mode" and remains there throughout the session, while Windows 9x starts in "real mode", then switches to "protected mode" when it starts the GUI. But then at the same time, DOS is still running in "real mode" underneath the rest of Windows 9x - which is operating in protected mode?! Actually the way windows uses processor states is really loopy (big surprise eh?). It's like. . .it starts in v86, then dips into pmode long enough to activate pmode memory addressing, then falls back into v86 mode. So its like. . .running DOS but being able to see all the memory without an ems/xms driver. So we're doing a really phased out hybrid of 20 bit addressing and 32 bit addressing, in which case im pretty sure preemptive multitasking is not possible. That in mind, when you run multiple apps under windows, you essentially have a bunch of things floating around in this one big shared memory/resource pool. Inevitably, some of them are going to request resources that are unavailable, ie an in use memory space, or request the services of an already in use library or something like that. Under ideal circumstances windows will just say oops cant do that and wait till the resource is open, but as we all probably know, that usually doesnt happen.): The AMD K6 Multimedia Technology Manual has a really good write up on different multitasking environments. Also one of the guys from the demogroup Triton wrote a really neat paper on pmode memory access under v86 mode. . .i think its somewhere on scene.org if anyone wants to read up on that. Windows also manages virtual machines really strangely. It will actually start up VMs in different processor states, ie it can start one up in pmode, then one in v86 mode depending on what kind of app is being run. . .probably one of the reasons that running win3.1 apps under win9x is not really advocated. . .putting the two together=badness. . .therein being another linux coolness. Since X isnt in itself another OS, ie its just a separate program, there is no need for X to set its own machine state up, as windows does. All of linux's VMs are in pmode. Maybe someone can explaine better than I. It just seems to me that Windows is going about the thing in too complex a maner, while Linux is doing it the simple and elegant way. yah. . .and at the same time its like. . .windows is really specific about what it needs to run and linux is sorta abstract about things, or i guess adaptable is a better term. . .its like one of my friends comparison between Direct3D and OpenGL The developers of OpenGL (sgi) were/are 3D pros who probably said, "how can we make a really functional open api that displays fast, stable 3D graphics,will work in a slew of different operating environments, and is also easy to implement?", whereas the designers of DX/D3D probably said "hmm we need to figure out how to be able to do fast 3D gfx in Windows so people will stop writing games in DOS." The result being that sgi turned out a pretty well built, sleek, easy to use, OPEN api, and MS turned out a rather bloated, not that easy to use, platform dependent api that does what it needs to and nothing else. I mean over in the windows world we'er all ooing and ahhing about the fact that DX7 has hardware T/L but OpenGLs had it forever. to go off on a tangent, its like that great scene in firebirds where Nick Cage and Tommy Lee J are in the chopper doing a simulated night time flight and Cage is pretty much chowing. Cage says "im doing it' im doing it!!" and Tommy L replies "yeah but youre doing it ugly." .. . .although i gotta say id love to see Cubase for linux. . . -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Site/List "We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project!" ---| http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie| http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl| ---|
Re: [newbie] Ati Rage 128
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Bassem Houballah wrote: %_Hi, how can i install my ati rage 128 under linux-mandrake 6.1 pop on over to www.suse.com and check out their x server links. As long as your card uses a Rage 128 and not a Rage 128 Pro, they have your solution. -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Site/List "We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project!" ---| http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie| http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl| ---|
Re: [newbie] A question
On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Dan Ferris wrote: Why is Linux more Stable than Windows??? That's a big question. Do you mean linux overall, pure linux, or X? Linux's relation to X is quite different than say DOS's relation to Win from a runtime standpoint. . .there's a really neat book called The Joy Of X (pun intended im sure) that covers alot of the crucial dfiierences. . . Windows is multi-user multi-tasking and multi-threading, and has memory protection between applications. The big difference in the multitasking part is the difference between preemptive multitasking and cooperative multitasking. As much as the windows box may say so, windows 9x is NOT a preemptive multitasker. I dont even think preemptive mting is even possible on a not pure 32 bit OS. i think it might have to do with the difference between segment:offest and global:segment:offset. . .someone correct me if im wrong. . -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Site/List "We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project!" ---| http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie| http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl| ---|
[newbie] joystick
Does anyone know how to enable the joystick port on a GUS MAX? -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Site/List "We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project!" ---| http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie| http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl| ---|
Re: [newbie] The FREE In Linux
On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, root wrote: Linux Really Free? In fact mr tolvalds's original name for it was FREE-ix (true story) -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There's Actually STUFF Here Now! YAY!!) "As it is, The American Justice System is a big enough joke WITHOUT TV Court Shows. . ." -D Johnson
Re: [newbie] kernel
On Fri, 10 Dec 1999, Ralph | byte-runner | wrote: but when it boots it cant find the damn modules can someone pls help thanks, byte did you remember to issue a depmod -a? that will create the requisite module dependency list. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There's Actually STUFF Here Now! YAY!!) "As it is, The American Justice System is a big enough joke WITHOUT TV Court Shows. . ." -D Johnson
[newbie] GO UofM!!!
Found this on linux.com. . .this is the way it should be! http://umlinux.strange.net/um-microsoft.html Rock(on!); -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Co-Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Mailing List/Website We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project! -- http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie -- "Programming is not a zero sum game. Teaching something to a fellow programmer doesn't take it away from you." - J Carmack ---
Re: [newbie] editors
On Mon, 06 Dec 1999, Ronald J. Yacketta wrote: Hello ALL!!! I am looking for a rtf (rich text file) editor for linux.. is their such a beast (I know it is winblows crap!!) AbiWord (www.abisource.com) reads and writes rtf files. -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There's Actually STUFF Here Now! YAY!!) "As it is, The American Justice System is a big enough joke WITHOUT TV Court Shows. . ." -D Johnson
Re: [newbie] Linux fragmentation?
On Sun, 05 Dec 1999, you wrote: How can this be tolerated? Or rather how can Linux tolerate this and still talk about interoperatibility of distros? And what does the future hold? Umm. . .well if its really that big a deal there are always tar.gz arcs ya kno. Ive actually taken to using them over rpms just cuz i find them simpler. Granted i give up things like package tracking and easy uninstalling, but on the upside, i know where everything is. . .and i dont have to worry so much about dependencies. . . I think a bigger issue right now as far as linux fragmentation is the intro of ext3. . .is redhat the ms of linux? just my $0.02 Also does anyone know of any good utilities to convert digital audio files (MOD, S3M, IT) to mp3? Thanks all. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There's Actually STUFF Here Now! YAY!!) "As it is, The American Justice System is a big enough joke WITHOUT TV Court Shows. . ." -D Johnson
[newbie] Thanks + question about /dev files
Greetings All! Thanks all for the assistance concerning X not running kde. As it was, for anyone else that might run up against this issue, it was simply a case of updating my xinitrc package. . . Now for the question: Is there a preferred way to remove /dev files or does rm work ok? Thanks all! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There's Actually STUFF Here Now! YAY!!) "As it is, The American Justice System is a big enough joke WITHOUT TV Court Shows. . ." -D Johnson
[newbie] XFree86 Upgrade and startkde question
Greetings All! Just updated X to 3.3.5 and im wondering: Now when i log in, from the graphical login screen, instead taking me to kde, it takes me to a blank desktop with an xterm open. This happens even if i have the session type set to KDE. To start kde, i have to enter startkde into the xterm. Is there a way around this? startkde is located in /usr/bin, does it maybe need to be anywhere else? Or is there some other issue i need to resolve? Thanks all! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There's Actually STUFF Here Now! YAY!!)
Re: [newbie] Before I start?
On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, you wrote: Well, Most likly I'll use it to .. learn linux, fool around with KDE and other window managers, edit web pages and graphics, play games, Play cd-music, surf the net .. etc. I do alot of the same things and am finding that 128M works well for me. . .i must say life is much nicer after a kernel rebuild too. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There's Actually STUFF Here Now! YAY!!) "As it is, The American Justice System is a big enough joke WITHOUT TV Court Shows. . ." -D Johnson
Re: [newbie] Dual Boot
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, you wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the risks in Dual Booting? One of the operating systems being from Redmond That's A Roast!! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There's Actually STUFF Here Now! YAY!!) "As it is, The American Justice System is a big enough joke WITHOUT TV Court Shows. . ." -D Johnson
Re: [Re: [newbie] MSIE when?]
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote: When I think of a windows install, I think of about 4 hours sitting in front of a computer clicking buttons with a mouse, multiple rebooting session and crossing my fingers that it will work this time. Installing Linux on the other And could you imagine how long a kernel compile would take for windows? Ive seen some of the windows (win95 anyway) source and let me tell ya folx, it aint pretty. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
[newbie] Resolving symbols in modules
Greetings all! On the topic of kernel upgrades, im attempting to go from 2.2.9 to 2.2.13 and when i try to create module dependencies i get the message 'unresolved symbol in:' and it lists some module i dont even use, i think a pcmcia mod or something to that effect. I suspect this is the reason that i get no modules.dep file created in lib/modules/2.2.13. Is there something i need to do/obtain? I have the kernel source and headers for 2.2.13, using the following sequence: make xconfig make dep clean bzImage make modules modules_install depmod -a Thanks all! --
Re: [newbie] questions concerning linux
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, you wrote: I've got three questions concerning programing in linux. 1) Is their a linux version of allegro out their? If so were is the site? I wouldnt be surprised if there was something similar at least. . .pop over to www.delorie.com for possible links 2) Were could one find a tutorial on programming in KDE? Hmmm. . .that's a pretty broad question. What you might want to look for instead is stuff on programming in one of the following: Xlib (Xt, Athena, Motif) www.markwatson.com/books/linux_prog.html GTK www.gtk.org Qt www.troll.no A neat book is Linux Programming Unleashed , published by SAMS (have i hyped this book enuff yet?). It's got a great section on UI programming usnig just amout everything, including all the aforementioned, as well as AWT (Java), glut (OpenGL) and even lower level stuff like ncurses. 3) Are their any utilities out their to compress sprites, sound fx, etc. and put them into a file like the one that comes with allegro(grabber.exe)? and are their any sprite editors out their for linux? As far as sprite editors, there is SatanPaint, or you could just use GIMP. That's what ive been using and it works pretty well. . As far as a data file builder h. . .i gotta admit ya got me there. . . Thanks in advance, Ian Herbert -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] lilo
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, you wrote: %_When you update the kernel you have to put what in lilo so it uses the new kernel? pop open /etc/lilo.conf and just copy one of the other sections,changing the boot= section to point to whatever the new kernel is called. Keep the old section so you can boot into it if something goes wrong with the new kernel. after youve changed the lilo.conf, type /sbin/lilo from a prompt so lilo will read your new config. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
[newbie] . . .that one question
Greetings all! Im taking a survey for a web project im working on and i was wondering if anyone interested would mind answering the following question: When you were just getting started in linux, what was question (or questions) you had that no one seemed to have an answer for? Thanx All! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There,s Actually STUFF Here Now!) OpenGL: Everything should work this well
Re: [newbie] OFF TOPIC !
On Thu, 25 Nov 1999, you wrote: i hear the beast is buying up linux. remember i while ago, when aohell supposedly merged with netscape, when aol was in with ms. this isn't over yet. if all else fails. Follow The Money! Um. . .buying up linux from who? since no one really owns linux that would be kinda diff. . .the best they could do is release their own distro i think. . .. -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
[newbie] screenshots
Could anyone tell me if there is a way to take a screen shot of the desktop or what software would be useful for doing such? -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] MSIE when?
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, you wrote: (which its now doing) itll give MS a better run for its money. hehe funny we mention money in the presence of linux! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] Books..
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, you wrote: I really link the Nutshell book, I still need to read Running Linux, which I will over the holidays. Dunno if yer interested in technical theory of linux, but if so, check out The Linux Kernel Book as well as The Design of the UNIX Operating System. If yer into programming, check out Linux Programming UNleashed. . .its a bit vague on somethings (Qt, OpenGL), but its pretty neat overall. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) OpenGL: Better Living Through Fast 3D Graphics
Re: [newbie] Quake
On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote: Well, I feel like emailing them and complaining about the delay in *SHIPPING* the Linux version to the store shelves! THAT sucks, as it means there probably won't be a Linux version before Christmas! We. . .that again is not id's decision. . .it has to do with retailers making shelf space for non windows versions. . .i mean im sure all versions will be gold at the same time. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] Words Of Wisdom
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote: Seth Gibson wrote: No, probably Scott McNealy, president of Sun Microsystems. You know, Java, Jini, Solaris... Yah that's why i said sellers of 3dfx he's cool with sun. . .trust me i know the dude
Re: [newbie] Words Of Wisdom
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote: That's rather odd... At least 3dfx has been extremely good to the Linux people. True. . .from our (steve-o +myself) perception, there is another side of 3dfx. Suppose for a second that a little upstart chipmaker named nVidia had just said "Well, after the lukewarm reception our Riva 128 and NV1 chipsets received, let's just throw in the towel,", or suppose their neighbor down the block at Casa S3 had said "Ok so much for Virge, let's design. . .floppy drives!" Assume that for all the other players in the video card market EXCEPT 3dfx, who is now king of the hill. . .so what are we stuck with? Boards that are still only rendering in 16 bits (altho according to 3dfx "it's actually closer to 22 bits") and not using AGP sidebanding or addressing, or to simplify: Stagnant Technology. I mean honestly, with what other chipmakers are putting out, did nVidia really NEED to impliment a Geometry Engine? Probably not, but they did. Hopefully part of the reasoning there was just because they had the tech and they could. 3dfx assumes that status quo for the moment is just fine and they'll impliment "next-gen" features when we feel like it. So yah, maybe theyve done good things for linux, but the big picture there. . ? I'm sure to them linux users are just another market to be branded and subverted, figure if they get here first, we'll all settle for their substandard hardware just cuz it works. Well. . .Windows is substandard but it works. . .(not to down on any 3dfx owners, i have 2 V2s myself, but then. the V2 was a good product for its time). Sun. . .well. . .Java. . .yeah. . .that seems a really convoluted problem as it is. Microsoft wanted it they did their own thing sun didnt like that back forth etc. . . Jini? from a design standpoint its actually pretty cool. . .read the spec if you can find it somewhere (bn.com). . .it's actually a pretty entertaining read. Yah being an enemy of ms doesnt make em a friend of yours, but. . .to US its not so much about big billy vs tux. . .its about other things. Its about aesthetics, design, things that most people dont even consider anymore when it comes to computers (which is a shame). We both use AMD processors not because they were cheaper at the time or because we dont like intel, but because their design is quite neater than a comparable intel chip (if you dont believe it, order the Technical References from AMD and Intel and compare the design notes yerself). I think if the situation were reversed, linux being not free, but all the other good things it is, and windows being free but crap, id pay 100 for linux. . .and if something comes up that has a neater design than linux and performs comparably or better (and no, it's NOT BeOS), we'll probably use that too. . .even if it were to come from microsoft. . . i dunno i guess mr mccaul's statements were a bit vague true. . .but again its not about linux. . .i mean it could be the cancer researcher who finds a cure using an unorthodox but creative method, or it could just be all the people out there subverting dominant paradigms in their own way. . .i mean all those places where linux and microsoft and sun and 3dfx dont even matter. . .going with the superior and not the standard. . .or something. . . hmm. . .i sense i have rambled excessively again. . .sorry -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] Quake
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote: Bummer! :-( Guess we need to email Id and complain! :-) John I dunno actually. . .theyre reasoning wakes good sense. carmack stated that the reason that he wants to hold off on downloadable linux binaries is so that they can accurately gauge purchases of the linux version. Makes sense, no? This way you don't have thousands of people buying the win version and then downloading the linux binaries. . . so their reasoning goes. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] Quake
On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote: I'm still waiting (myself) to find out where/when I can buy the Linux version of Q3 Arena. :-) I called Id software on Friday and they said they don't have a release date yet. :-( Yah rumor was nov 24, then dec 7. . .according to folks at all the comp shops i been to. What i understand from reading the plans of id staff, it seems that the Elite (tin box) edition won't have linux binaries, additionally, the Linux version WILL NOT ship simultaneously with the Win/Mac versions as originally planned. Linux binaries will not be able for dload until post xmas, mainly for the purpose of collecting stats. -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] Quake
On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote: I'm still waiting (myself) to find out where/when I can buy the Linux version of Q3 Arena. :-) I called Id software on Friday and they said they don't have a release date yet. :-( oh yeah the demo should be out tonite too! (20-11-99) -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
[newbie] Words Of Wisdom
Dear Everyone: Recently I have been in involved in an email discussions with one of my friends about OS theory, mainly linux and UNIX Design Theory. Id like to share with you all something he said that for me personally says it all. . . -- Forwarded Message -- Is Linux UNIX? I don't know. But its beautiful. Its rebellious. Its free. Its a slap to the face of the corporate world. Fuck you bill. Fuck you scott. We don't need your feature bloated OS nor your designs on world domination thank you. We have our own visions, our own view of perfection which we work together to achieve without tainting our dreams with greed. You can take your avarice, your hate, i'll just take linux and go where i want to go. today. :) hehe. that was fun. silly me. -- Nuff said. . .you go, stephen -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
[newbie] It's here
Hey John, quake3 official demo (test version anyway?) is out. . .grab it now before everyone finds out about it!!! yes i know it's sad ive been sitting here the last 2 hrs waiting for carmack's announcement. . .no, i have no life(:-D -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] Quake
On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote: update. ( you can see it for yourself by going to the console or xterm window and typing 'finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | more') Oh yah. . .totally. . .ive worked in the software industry hehe. . ."when its done" is quite a mantra there. . .yah i been following plans and stuff. . .was pretty disappointed to see no simultaneous ship date): -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] OT: useless factoid part deux
On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote: what i was thinking of, was more or less an interative game type, which will take user input too move the buckets around ie: poring water between them , with both sollutions incorperated into the game. Does this make sence? Oh yes most definitely. trying to visualize a bit to see how UI needs to be setup. . .this could be neat. . .im seeing all kinds of possibilities. . .might be a WHILE b4 i have some workable code but i'll see if anything comes up. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] Words Of Wisdom
On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote: BTW, who is Scott? I think he's making a reference to Scott Sellers of 3dfx. . .i think i'll have to go with him on that too. . .next gen feature in a video chipset i want. . .hardware geometry engine or hardware accumulation buffer. . .hmmm. . .let me think. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] smp questions
On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, you wrote: two processors need to be the same speed? also, is there a better place to compare prices than cnet.com? I would give pricewatch.com a shot. They have smp boards for as low as 69 but that might not necessarily be your best bet. If you're looking for a certain board i'd check pricewatch for it tho. Good Luck!
Re: [newbie] alternative browser?
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, you wrote: Dear friends: Mark is right. Read Dave Whitinger's The Battle that Could Lose us the War in LinuxToday at: Hmm. . .not to fire any opening shots or anything buuut. . . i read Mark's post and my question is what is the relationship between open source and the web browser? i could get packages and apps via FTP if need be, and i can stay in touch and up on info with email and newsgroups None of these require a browser. Also, to make the statement that the web browser is THE KEY app makes a bit of a large (and to me personally insulting) assumption. All the time i spend "web browsing" as opposed to doing other things (3d modeling, GIMP work, music composition, writing code, etc.) is quite in the minority. The Open Source Community was here before the web. I won't say that the web hasn't affected it any cuz that's certainly not true, but c'mon folks: The Open Source Community is bigger than the web, and to say that it will topple because of the lack of a "super web browser" is somewhat tunnel visionish in my opinion. We're all members of that community, so ask yourself: Do you have plans to quit using linux simply because of the state of the browsers (and trust me, i have the same netscape problems everyone mentions)? If so, i mean, if your OS choice is all about which one has a web browser, why not grab DOS and a copy of webspyder? That's a pretty stable combination i think. I dunno folks. Not trying to start a war, just saying that to me computers are more than browsing the web. I use linux because it works. Did Linus Torvalds, the FSF, GNU, and all the other key players in the Open Source movement create it in hopes that it would spawn the uberbrowser and rule the web one day? If so. . .doesn't that just make us all another Microsoft, or AOL, or Netscape or. . . . . . And now a bit of relevant humor for those ready to string me up or at least flame me quite completely: I was at work the other day and a gentleman comes in to start a seasonal position. His name is Winfred and on his name tag was the word WIN. So i thought to myself hmmm. . .i should change my name tag to read STARTX. . .but then i thot. . .no. . .doubt anyone at work would get it and as cool as "startx" sounds when you say it, i don't think i want to be called that. That and it's a dead joke if u have to explain it to someone. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] Hardware recommendations
On Tue, 09 Nov 1999, you wrote: Yeah...but try using a trackball for Quake. ;-) John Haha. . .oh but i do! and i gotta say i love it. . .havent gotten the panther xl to work under linux very well yet tho): -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] Quake
On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, you wrote: How/where does one get Quake for linux?? 1() Buy it 2() if you have the dos/win version go to www.linuxquake.com to get the client, then check out /usr/doc/HOWTO/Quake-HOWTO (or you can just look at it while at linuxquake.com) -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] Hardware recommendations
On Tue, 09 Nov 1999, you wrote: (Supra is now owned by Diamond MultiMedia) Compaq/Microcom And sadly diamond is owned by s3. . .a shame. . .i was looking forward to a Diamond geForce board. . .ahh well. Does anyone know where to find any GOOD docs for E? -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] alternative browser?
On Tue, 09 Nov 1999, you wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions for an alternative browser for Linux? I don't like Netscape's, KFM, or Star Office's very much. I won't dare go into all the problems, though ;-) id check and see what the crew at freshmeat.net has. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] Environment Variables
On Tue, 09 Nov 1999, you wrote: WHen I export a JAVA_HOME, am I appending to a file somewhere for a new place to include when looking for java files? Or am I overwriting the path (therefore making my other java homes not work anymore?) If there's a file I'm writing to, what is it? you might try 'man bash' or 'man setenv' From what i've gleaned by digging through various /etc files and frequent use of export myself, i dont think it necessarily overwrites anything. I think its just treated as a seperate environment variable. If you look in /etc/profile you see that there are several variables defined then all issued via one export command. So i think bash just treats each successive export as just another one. I think that anything exported via CLI only is in effect till logout. . . .. . .this is all probably wrong and im doing alot of guessing assuming and going on what ive seen/done/heard. . .someone correct me please! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] GAIM
On Sun, 07 Nov 1999, you wrote: Is anyone else noticing GAIM (AOL Instant Messenger) is freezing upon connecting? I wonder if AOL might have anyone not using their version of AOL IM for Windows blocked from their system? Like they're doing to MSN Messenger? I've noticed it too but its been really intermittent. . .sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt. Ive been checking the gAIM page for any sort of notice but nothing so far. You might want to try TiK. . .while personally it is a bit subpar to gAIM, you might have more success. -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] Netscape
On Mon, 08 Nov 1999, you wrote: If I need to do it in Edit--Preferences--Navigator--Applications, can someone tell me exactly which file to direct it to? I have both JDK 1.1.7 v3 and JRE 1.1.7. v1a installed on here. Actually try looking under EditPreferencesAdvanced. . .that's where all the java settings should be. -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] Changing to kde in Mandrake6.1
On Mon, 08 Nov 1999, you wrote: Just did fresh install of 6.1 on what will hopefully become our NT Ftp Server's competitor. startx automatically brings up fvwm which I am trying to change to kde Hmm. . .perhaps you might want to try startkde? Im not sure if that script assumes x is started or starts x itself, but its something to try. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: I want to agree with Seth here, lets get back to Linux. Here is a dumb question. What is MESA 3.1? The reason I keep Win98 is so I can play Quake 2 Mesa is an Open Source implimentation of OpenGL, written by one Brian Paul while at the University of Wisconsis (tho i believe he's graduated). According to all the "official" literature, it can't be called "OpenGL" because it doesnt meet the OpenGL ARBs Compliance standards (well, actually that's not true, it just hasn't been Tested). It is undergoing compliance examination as we speak tho. Also despite the fact its not officially OpenGL, all the major developers use it (as well as the minor ones like me:) and it is being worked into XFree86 4. Heck, i think even John Carmack is funding some of the development (something about optimizations to the vertex transform model). So basically until the Linux OpenGL Base is completed, Mesa is our OpenGL. For more info, head on over to: www.mesa3d.org P.S. Quake II runs really nicely under Mesa, as do many other games. . .might not need to keep Win 98 around for games much longer!;). ALso u might want to give q3test a look if u havent already. . .really nice. -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] IDE's for Linux?
On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: Is there a web site listing this and other IDE's? That is assuming there are more than just Code Crusader. Hmm. . .thats a good question, i think freshmeat.net might have something. www.cygnus.com is home to Code Fusion. Speaking of Code Crusader... How much does it cost...that is if it isn't free. Code Crusader is open source. Check it out at: www.cco.caltech.edu/~jafl/jcc -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
[newbie] zip files?
Is there a utility that handles files created by WinZip or Pkunzip? gzip doesnt seem to want to. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] Graphical Text Editors for programmers
On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, you wrote: Dear friends: Those of you who are planning on becoming programmers and are looking for a GRAPHICAL programmer's text editor, you might wish to consider I would say that the best for programming is definitely code crusader. . .its more of an IDE than a text editor. Very nice. . .it's what Brandon Reinhart used to port the Unreal Tournament Client to linex with, so that speaks in its favor. . .check it out at: http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~jafl/jcc/ enjoy! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] Graphical text editors?
On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, you wrote: That's what a newbie needs and wants. If he wants to become a programmer, he/she can always move up to emacs or vim later on. Yah. . .that's definitely the one use i would recommend emacs for myself, coding. One o the other members of my team uses it alot and said its neat, tho i ended up somewhat lobotomized after learning its use. . .which was later all invalidated by the discovery of Code Crusader. . .ahhh well. . .was a good learning experience tho -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] SMP + OT DSL Question
On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, you wrote: From: Ronald A. Yacketta sorry if I sound stupid here, but BP6??? The ABit mobo that supports dual celerons. . .anybody else heard the rumor that intel is going to start diasbling SMP capability in PPGA Celerons too? I read that somewhere. . .Hopefully AMD wont follow that path with the Athlon Selects. . . Now for the OT DSL Question(: Im getting DSL with a static IP and im running a DSL box into a NIC. So basically do i just need to configure eth0 for normal operation and then connect the DSL box to the NIC? Thanks all! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] Reinstalling Win98
Thanks All for the help with this! Its a shame. . .and yet so totally expected for an MS operating system. . . (:-D I really enjoyed it being termed a "Windows Inferioritfy Complex". That was worth a few chuckles(: Ok im rambling but Thanks Again! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] Send Mail, X11amp and LICQ questions.
On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, you wrote: I would like to know where you got the LICQ RPM, if you can tell me. Everybody else seems to have it, but I am also very new. Visit www.freshmeat.net and do a search for licq. . .the page has a link to rpms -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
[newbie] Reinstalling Win98
Greetings all! Im about to wipe my Win32 partition and reinstall everything. . .is there anything i should be aware of, ie lilo issues or anything of that nature? Thanks all! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] linux games, and when will they fix the address book?
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, you wrote: I think we won't see the 'real good' games for Linux until we have 3D acceleration other than 3dfx for our beloved OS. Ummm. . .im gonna have to disagree with that. Is Q3 not a "real good game?" Granted its mainly a multiplayer game, but it's a "real good" multiplayer game (in my opinion). Same can be said for Unreal Tournament. Elsewise. if you've played the Win32 versions of Heavy Gear II or Descent 3. . .i think those are all "real good" games that are coming to Linux. . .and these efforts would probably be hampered quite a bit had there been no base to stand on. So what if that base is in the form of 3dfx? God grant, everyone's heard the "shame on 3dfx for releasing such substandard 'next generation' boards", but hey. . .whatever works for now eh? At the time the Voodoo2 was a revolutionary chipset and yes it is a shame to not see 3dfx continue that trend but it is a starting point. . .Im thankful for that at least Good things are afoot however. . .Xfree86 4 will include Mesa for 3D rendering and many of the games coming will include Mesa based renderers so fear not. . .that and seeing as how nVidia is also a major player in the Linux OpenGL Base Project, i think Linux support (GOOD Linux support even!) for all present and future nVidia chipsets is a for sure. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) To paraphrase my friend stephen: "life can be like that great ifs xscreensaver. . .random garbage goes in and sometimes, beautiful things come out."
Re: [newbie] Sound
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, you wrote: On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 03:53:22PM +0800, Mr-X- wrote: Just as a warning, I'm forwarding this thread to OSS. If we can't shame you into being honest, maybe they can convince you. Good call steve. Personally one of the things that makes Linux so neat is that beyond the OS there's really a strong community mindedness at work here. Linux is about all of us choosing to use and support something different and superior, and it's about all of us supporting everyone who is choosing to do work on various Linux projects, most people doing it mainly for the love of programming and the OS. im thinking $20 is a small price to pay for that sort of thing. . . - Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) To paraphrase my friend stephen: "life can be like that great ifs xscreensaver. . .random garbage goes in and sometimes, beautiful things come out."
Re: [newbie] linux games, and when will they fix the address book?
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, you wrote: On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, you wrote: On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, you wrote: Well, I was planning on probably getting a Voodoo3-2000, since my system doesn't have AGP. If it did, I'd probably use this TNT I have lying around. :-) John Supposedly (or as near as one of my friends has figured from spending countless hours looking over the snapshots) XFree86 4 would give you the ability to use both, i.e. the Voodoo3 as a dedicated 3d card. . .this is a rumor and not for sure, but i wouldnt be surprised, Mesa does some really neat things. . .for example, it has a hack that lets a Voodoo or a Voodoo2 render 3D to a window, a feat that was reported to be not possible due to hardware. . .so im pretty excited to see what sort of cool things are planned. . .i wish there was more info on the website. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) To paraphrase my friend stephen: "life can be like that great ifs xscreensaver. . .random garbage goes in and sometimes, beautiful things come out."
Re: [newbie] upgrading
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, you wrote: A couple of quick questions 1. I am using Mandrake 6.0 and would like to us VMware ver 1.1 which requires xfree86 3.3.4 and ver 6 of mandrake only uses 3.3.1 What is the simplest way of getting this done. www.xfree86.org. . .i think the most recent stable is 3.3.53 3 3devel is. . .3.9.15 or 16 i think. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) To paraphrase my friend stephen: "life can be like that great ifs xscreensaver. . .random garbage goes in and sometimes, beautiful things come out."
Re: [newbie] linux games, and when will they fix the address book?
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, you wrote: Secondly, how are linux games coming along. I'm thinking about getting By now it's probably common knowledge that Quake 3 will be released for the Big L. Unreal Tournament will also be released with a Linux client, but it will all come in the same package. Quake and Quake II are Linux playable either via standalone Linux versions or using a Linux client and the data from the Win32 CDs. Outrage is currently also working on a Linux client for Descent 3, and a Kingpin client is also in development (tho it may be finished by now). On the loki side, Railroad Tycon II is on its way. Theyre also continuing their alliance with Activision and have plans to port Heretic II and Heavy Gear II as well. -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) To paraphrase my friend stephen: "life can be like that great ifs xscreensaver. . .random garbage goes in and sometimes, beautiful things come out."
Re: [newbie]
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, you wrote: My advice is to get the mandrake release too. I'm going through installing most of the major releases that you can download or get get from LinuxMall for $2.00 in order to write a review on them from a newbie's perspective. Here's what I've discovered so far- Are there any major MAJOR bugs in 6.1 that would turn some less computer literate people off? Im going to be teaching a computer class pretty soon here and i'd like to give each of the participants a copy of Linux to take home and try, but i dont want to hand out something thats going to leave a sour impression because of what might be to you or i a really simple bug.. Thanks all! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) To paraphrase my friend stephen: "life can be like that great ifs xscreensaver. . .random garbage goes in and sometimes, beautiful things come out."
Re: [newbie] linux games, and when will they fix the address book?
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, you wrote: I saw HereticII at ALS a weekend or so ago It rocked! :-) I'm going to have to give up this video card and get a 3d card, I think... :-) John Wow cool! yes linux games are coming along quite nicely from what ive seen. Speaking of 3D cards, let's hope that the support continues to be on the upward. I'd actually say keep your current vc and add some voodoo2s or a voodoo3 (when XFree86 4 comes out anyway). . .just cuz linux support for the voodoo's is so nicely stable and widespread. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) To paraphrase my friend stephen: "life can be like that great ifs xscreensaver. . .random garbage goes in and sometimes, beautiful things come out."
[newbie] nVidia drivers here:
In RPM files they can be found on the Mesa ftp site: ftp://ftp.mesa3d.org/mesa/misc/nVidia General info can be found at nVidia's website: http://www.nvidia.com/Products.nsf/htmlmedia/software_drivers.html -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) To paraphrase my friend stephen: "life can be like that great ifs xscreensaver. . .random garbage goes in and sometimes, beautiful things come out."
Re: [newbie] Quake2 in Xwin
On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, you wrote: still will not work, anyone have any ideas ? jet on over to www.linuxquake.com and read the howto. . .it says to try killing gpm services too. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) To paraphrase my friend stephen: "life can be like that great ifs xscreensaver. . .random garbage goes in and sometimes, beautiful things come out."
Re: [newbie] Quake2 in Xwin
On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, you wrote: did you try to turn off GPM ? # ps aux | grep gpm # kill (gpm PID number) killall gpm should work too i think. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) To paraphrase my friend stephen: "life can be like that great ifs xscreensaver. . .random garbage goes in and sometimes, beautiful things come out."
Re: [newbie] How to market Linux?
On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, you wrote: If possible, please steer me toward a website that lists some of the external threats and opportunities facing Linux. If possible, feel free to give me your personal insights. http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/news/msnw/LinuxMyths.asp This is a page with MS's take on linux. I think this would make a valid source simply because if you are trying to take it to the mainstream, these are questions that many of the mainstream market would probably have, and seeing as how it's microsoft that's answering them, we. . .those questions would probably need to be refuted by something a bit less partial. As it is, the mainstream tends to be swayed by the Evil Empire quite a bit so. . .ok i dont know where im going with that, well i do but im too tried to figure it out right now(:-D! Enjoy! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) To paraphrase my friend stephen: "life can be like that great ifs xscreensaver. . .random garbage goes in and sometimes, beautiful things come out."
Re: [newbie] Setting up a modem
On Mon, 04 Oct 1999, you wrote: Well its got a lucent technologies chipset. I got it config'd but when i querys the modem it says its busy any ideas? Ummm. . .most lucent tech chipset based modems are winmodems. . .the ones you buy at your local parts rehailer for 29.95. . .
Re: [newbie] What is a SMP kernel and why is if diffrent from others??
On Sun, 03 Oct 1999, you wrote: I was doing some reading and noticed the term "SMP" kernel. I was wondering what this is? How is it different from the standard kernel installed with Mandrake. SMP stands for Symmetric Multi-Processing. BAsically it's the protocol for systems with more than one processor, ie quad Xeon's, dual Celerons, etc. An SMP kernel is probably compiled with tweaks and optimizations specific to an SMP environment. Hope that helps!
Re: [newbie] Linux support for AMD K7
On Thu, 04 Nov 1999, you wrote: Does anyone know if the AMD processor, K7, is supported by any distro of Linux? Richard ive heard it doesnt behave that well but linux 2.4 should have complete support -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: I'm only defending against the stupid lies here and in the Linux community. If you made an argument that Linux is better because that's OK. If you start spreading lies like NT crashes left and right, I know it not to be true. Key phrase there being "I know it not to be true". Another person's truth might be totally different, so to call the statement "NT crashes left and right" a lie might be stepping on someone else's truth. In the case of Windows, it's really a double edged sword. For some people it works wonderfully, for some it works not quite as well. Neither one is a lie, they are just things that different people "know it to be true." I mean, if we want to slam MS more we could tap a keg at the fact that a judge just ruled Microsoft a monopoly. But on the other hand, we could rejoice at the fact that the judge also said that one of the reasons for his ruling of monopoly is that "there is no viable alternative (to Windows on the desktop)"', probably including linux. Again the double edged sword, because this is certainly a statement that many of us linux users "know it NOT to be true" to paraphrase. Personally, i have to go with whoever stated that there is room for both. I use both and im not going to say one is that much better from a pure user standpoint. Yes on the technical level i would have a different opinion, but thats not the point. Some things i just like better under DOS/Win and some under linux. It's a big world, some use one some use the other. It's all good right?? So now back to linux if anyone's read this far. Is there any good DTP software? Something on the order of Publisher? Also, getting back to games (of course!) i saw this post on linuxgames with a list of commercial games available or coming soon. For anyone interested they are: Soldier of Fortune - Soon Heroes of Might and Magic - Soon Hopkins FBI - Now - Requires XFree 3.3 Quake 1 - Now - Requires Mesa 2.4 Quake 2 - Now - Requires Mesa 3.0 Quake 3 - November - Requires Mesa 3.1 or XFree 4.0 Unreal Tournament - November - Requires Glide 2.53 BFRIS - Now - Requires Mesa Descent 3 - Unsupported - Soon - Requires Mesa 3.0 Kingpin - Unsupported - Now - Requires Mesa 3.0 Ultima Online - Unsupported - Requires XFree 3.3 Civilization CTP - Now - Require XFree 3.3 Myth 2 - Now - Requires XFree 3.3 (Mesa 3.0 support soon) Railroad Tycoon - Now - Requires XFree 3.3 Heretic 2 - December - Requires Mesa 3.1 Heavy Gear 2 - January - Requires Mesa 3.1 Eric's Ultimate Solitaire - October - Requires XFree 3.3 Abuse - Free - Now Descent 1 - Now Doom/Doom 2 - Free - Now Heretic 1 - Free - Now - Requires XFree 3.3 Hexen 1 - Free - Now Battlecruiser 3020AD/Millenium - 2000 Neverwinter Nights - 2000 Terminus - 2000 -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] enlightenment
On Thu, 04 Nov 1999, you wrote: This was discused last week with very good instructions (step by step), have a look in the archives. here are two files you need to check out, startkde and Xclients. The basic intsructions are change the exec referencre to kwm in startkde to enlightenment, save the file as something else, then in Xclients, change the reference to startkde to whatever you saved the modified startkde to. . .thats it in a nutshell. . .not sure if it works seeing as how i havent tried it yet, but thats what i pieced together from various posts and sites. . .good luck! -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
