Re: [newbie] Crash Burners of the World Unite
On Tuesday 24 December 2002 03:01 pm, you wrote: On Tuesday 24 December 2002 10:46 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Tuesday 24 December 2002 09:28 am, you wrote: OK, so far there is an incredible number of volunteers. Just got home from work! Add Me! Me! Me!big grin Yeah, but Ron are you sure you have the necessary enthusiasm to do this? bg Sometimes I might just have a wee bit too much of it, methinks! :-))) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Crash Burners of the World Unite
OK, so far there is an incredible number of volunteers. Most of the crew here seems to be US, and we don't have anybody for Australia yet. List: UNITED KINGDOM Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CANADA Ingo Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNITED STATES Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Lower Atlantic Seaboard Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Midwest US Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED]-- Upper Atlantic Seaboard What exactly is left of the crashtest team? How was it organized? What was the format for the bug reports? How do we integrate the crash burners with the crashtesters? Is it too early to be thinking about this? Should the question really be, where's the money? Should we concentrate on raising fundage for Mandrake from Lugs and christmas presents first? Would praying help? Where's the beef? Can somebody else weigh in on this? Darklord? Civileme? LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crash Burners of the World Unite
On Tuesday 24 Dec 2002 2:28 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: OK, so far there is an incredible number of volunteers. Most of the crew here seems to be US, and we don't have anybody for Australia yet. List: UNITED KINGDOM Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am too newbie to have been of the old crashtest team, but have two systems here with very different hardware, so I'm happy to join this - so long as I get the usual kind of support from my co-users :) CANADA Ingo Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNITED STATES Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Lower Atlantic Seaboard Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Midwest US Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Upper Atlantic Seaboard What exactly is left of the crashtest team? How was it organized? What was the format for the bug reports? How do we integrate the crash burners with the crashtesters? Is it too early to be thinking about this? Should the question really be, where's the money? Should we concentrate on raising fundage for Mandrake from Lugs and christmas presents first? We have to get them through this crisis somehow. My grandson is about to get an extra Christmas present. His Mandrake install is scheduled for later this week, so a club membership should be welcome to him. Would praying help? Whatever your god - and don't forget suitable libations Where's the beef? Can somebody else weigh in on this? Darklord? Civileme? LX Suddenly morale seems a little higher. Let's fight for it. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crash Burners of the World Unite
On Tuesday 24 December 2002 09:28 am, you wrote: OK, so far there is an incredible number of volunteers. Just got home from work! Add Me! Me! Me!big grin -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crash Burners of the World Unite
On December 24, 2002 07:28 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: OK, so far there is an incredible number of volunteers. Most of the crew here seems to be US, and we don't have anybody for Australia yet. Inter-lined comments. List: UNITED KINGDOM Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CANADA Ingo Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign me up! Add me here. City in signature for convenience. UNITED STATES Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Lower Atlantic Seaboard Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Midwest US Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Upper Atlantic Seaboard What exactly is left of the crashtest team? How was it organized? What was the format for the bug reports? How do we integrate the crash burners with the crashtesters? Is it too early to be thinking about this? Should the question really be, where's the money? Should we concentrate on raising fundage for Mandrake from Lugs and christmas presents first? Would praying help? Quite frankly I won't even go to a meeting of my local Lug. Or be subscribed to their mailing list again. Too insular, too clannish, too much kaffee klatsch/tea party/debating society, too many Liberal (a Party here) political opinions. Far too much of We can't do that (install-fests or anything else it seems) 'cause we'd be _liable!_ From reading the traffic on their mailing list I felt they were all convinced they were special people and couldn't be bothered with 'lowly newbies.' I'll just keep supporting Mandrake to the limit of what I can afford; buying what I can, and shaming friends into subscribing and proselytizing as well. Instead of letting them keep their but it's free! delusions. :-) Where's the beef? Can somebody else weigh in on this? Darklord? Civileme? LX Just in case you couldn't tell I think this is a great idea. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Patageometry, n.: The study of those mathematical properties that are invariant under brain transplants. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crash Burners of the World Unite
On Tuesday 24 Dec 2002 H:28 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: OK, so far there is an incredible number of volunteers. Most of the crew here seems to be US, and we don't have anybody for Australia yet. List: UNITED KINGDOM Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] John[EMAIL PROTECTED] CANADA Ingo Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNITED STATES Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Lower Atlantic Seaboard Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Midwest US Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Upper Atlantic Seaboard What exactly is left of the crashtest team? Not sure - a handful still post to the list How was it organized? Civileme issued us with tasks, for example when he wrote Xtart he put it on his website and asked us to d/l it, try it and report back my e mail to the crashtesters list, similar things with a program to test (to near destruction in some cases) journaled file systems What was the format for the bug reports? See above How do we integrate the crashburners with the crashtesters? Difficult, it needs co-ordination and predefined objectives by someone who really understands the inner workings of MD, both in terms of the product and the company's intentions Is it too early to be thinking about this? Possibly because of your next question. Should the question really be, where's the money? Should we concentrate on raising fundage for Mandrake from Lugs and christmas presents first? Would praying help? Where's the beef? Can somebody else weigh in on this? Darklord? Civileme? LX Note I've inserted myself into the UK section above hope you don't mind me tampering with your post :-) -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crash Burners of the World Unite
On Wed, 2002-12-25 at 06:58, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2002-12-25 at 01:28, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: OK, so far there is an incredible number of volunteers. Most of the crew here seems to be US, and we don't have anybody for Australia yet. List: I've only got a 56k connection, and have personal clients to support as well as help out the wife with her biz AND take care of kiddies (it's our summer here, so summer holidays is in full swing) - aside from all the general work, ya know, we have to constantly chase the 'roos and wombats outta the backyard, and the horses and carriage need tending-to as well...(g) But if I DID have a broadband connection, I might...(anyone wanna buy me an ADSL setup for Christmas?) I have broadband (512 ADSL), but only a 1GB / month quota. What we need is someone preferably with cable and a bigger quota. I'll put this on the luv list (Linux Users Victoria) and see if we can extract a volunteer with the appropriate resources that way. I see lots of posters there who use mdk, but don't appear on newbie. BTW, Victoria is that bit of Australia at the bottom right. Merry Christmas! Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Crash Burners of the World Unite
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lyvim Xaphir Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 9:28 AM To: NewbieMandrake-List Subject: [newbie] Crash Burners of the World Unite You can count me in for burning cd's. I have a cable connection. I live in NJ, USA Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crash Burners of the World Unite
I don't have much in financial resources and I work from a 33.6 connection (gotta love Verizon's rural phone lines)...however, I'd love to be part of the testing. So... I just happen to have about 25GB+ that I could use for testing (been looking for a reason to dump XP Pro now that I don't use it) and I have a friend with a good cable connection that is willing to d/l betas for me. I should be able to handle mailing CD copies to up to 2 other testers, if needed (presuming no more than 3 new sets of CDs per month for the other 2 testers--Priority Mail can be a little pricey). Please count me in as a tester and a burner (for up to 2 others), if needed. I live in central Illinois, so I guess I'd be midwest--east of the Mississippi. Thanks! On Tue, 2002-12-24 at 08:28, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: OK, so far there is an incredible number of volunteers. Most of the crew here seems to be US, and we don't have anybody for Australia yet. List: UNITED KINGDOM Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CANADA Ingo Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNITED STATES Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Lower Atlantic Seaboard Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Midwest US Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Upper Atlantic Seaboard What exactly is left of the crashtest team? How was it organized? What was the format for the bug reports? How do we integrate the crash burners with the crashtesters? Is it too early to be thinking about this? Should the question really be, where's the money? Should we concentrate on raising fundage for Mandrake from Lugs and christmas presents first? Would praying help? Where's the beef? Can somebody else weigh in on this? Darklord? Civileme? LX -- Erik Linux User 288105 @ http://counter.li.org = Bill who? ... Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crash Burners of the World Unite
At 09:28 AM 12/24/2002 -0500, you wrote: OK, so far there is an incredible number of volunteers. Most of the crew here seems to be US, and we don't have anybody for Australia yet. List: UNITED KINGDOM Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CANADA Ingo Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNITED STATES Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Lower Atlantic Seaboard Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Midwest US Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED]-- Upper Atlantic Seaboard What exactly is left of the crashtest team? How was it organized? What was the format for the bug reports? How do we integrate the crash burners with the crashtesters? Is it too early to be thinking about this? Should the question really be, where's the money? Should we concentrate on raising fundage for Mandrake from Lugs and christmas presents first? Would praying help? Where's the beef? Can somebody else weigh in on this? Darklord? Civileme? LX If this gets off the ground I have a machine to dedicate to burning I'll help too later on. For now I don't.. but I can say I support your efforts. :) I'm in Alberta with Charlie btw. A mountainous province here, very close to west coast seaboard. - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crash Burners of the World Unite
On Wed, 2002-12-25 at 08:50, Brian Parish wrote: I have broadband (512 ADSL), but only a 1GB / month quota. What we need is someone preferably with cable and a bigger quota. I'll put this on the luv list (Linux Users Victoria) and see if we can extract a volunteer with the appropriate resources that way. I see lots of posters there who use mdk, but don't appear on newbie. BTW, Victoria is that bit of Australia at the bottom right. Merry Christmas! Brian ...ya know, one saying I found funny after I moved to Australia (to New South Wales - the FIRST state) was that no matter what, shit rolls downhill...(ain't Victoria below NSW?) (G) - Hehehhehehehehee...just had to throw that in mate...! Cheers and Happy Christmas Surfing! -- Wed Dec 25 10:55:00 EST 2002 10:55am up 1:40, 3 users, load average: 0.21, 0.30, 0.29 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn Courage is your greatest present need. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crash Burners of the World Unite
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 16:46:04 -0700 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:28 AM 12/24/2002 -0500, you wrote: OK, so far there is an incredible number of volunteers. Most of the crew here seems to be US, and we don't have anybody for Australia yet. List: UNITED KINGDOM Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CANADA Ingo Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNITED STATES Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Lower Atlantic Seaboard Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Midwest US Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED]-- Upper Atlantic Seaboard What exactly is left of the crashtest team? How was it organized? What was the format for the bug reports? How do we integrate the crash burners with the crashtesters? Is it too early to be thinking about this? Should the question really be, where's the money? Should we concentrate on raising fundage for Mandrake from Lugs and christmas presents first? Would praying help? Where's the beef? Can somebody else weigh in on this? Darklord? Civileme? LX If this gets off the ground I have a machine to dedicate to burning I'll help too later on. For now I don't.. but I can say I support your efforts. :) I'm in Alberta with Charlie btw. A mountainous province here, very close to west coast seaboard. - FemmeFatale I applaud the enthusiasm that I'm seeing from members of this list;-) If you need CD's, I keep up-to-date mirrors of Cooker, Contrib and any beta's at all times. I'm on Vancouver Island on West Coast of Canada with a good cable connection and lot's of space. Spence. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crash Burners of the World Unite
How do I offer myself as a tester? -- Mike McNeese Springdale, Arkansas USA ° Currently triple booting 98lite; MDK 8.0 kernel 2.4.3-20; MDK 9.0 kernel 2.4.19-16 Registered Linux User #248955 ° If obstacles are what you see in your path... Then you have lost sight of your goal! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Crash early in install of 9.0
I posted this on alt.os.linux.mandrake but thought I'd post to this list, too (I hope this is not considered Spam).: I have a set of install discs for mdk 9.0 from Cheapbytes ( I am a Club Mandrake member, however :) ). I managed to install 9.0 over an existing ext2 and swap a partition (not an update) without many problems. However, when I tried to boot from CD 1 in the 2nd pc, it hangs pretty quickly. I can get to the intital screen where you chose f1 for options, enter for default boot. The dfault just brings me to a faint clear raster on the screen, then no activity for mins from CD or Hard drive. When I f1 and type in text the boot starts; the kernel gets loaded and stuff gets logged to the screen, but comes to a quick freeze. The last few lines displayed are: Checking 'hlt instruction...OK. Checking for popad bug...OK. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX enabled ExtINT on CPU#0 ESR value before enabling vector:0002 _ The last underscore is the blinking cursor; thats where it freezes. The machine it worked on is an old low end HP Pavilion The failing machine is a box with an MSI K7T266Pro (256MB) motherboard with an Athlon 1700+ Graphics card is a PNY Verto (nVidia GeForce4 MX 420 64MB.) This pc has an 8.2 installation I was trying to upgrade (but I guess it didn't get far enough to matter) Any Ideas what's going wrong here? -Matt __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Crash after applying updates
A couple of days ago I updated my Mandrake 8.1 from the mirrors at ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/8.1/RPMS using the Mandrake Update selection in the software manager. Nothing in the kernel was changed as I was putting that off until later, but all the other updates were accepted. Since then, and possibly connected with that action, my system has become unstable, crashing 3 times since the update (as compared 0 times with 1.5 months runtime before). No hardware changes were applied aside from screwing in the video connector. The crash is hard, nothing to do but reboot. I've put a sync() in the background to sync the disks on a 5 second interval to minimize damage and to try and get *something* in the syslog, but nothing comes up. If I could find the logs from the update I'll try and reverse the upgrades applied - anyone know where they're kept? Short of that, anyone have any ideas? It's a pretty standard MSI K7T mob with an Athlon 1.4 processor and an old Diamond Viper video - it's possible something's happened here but fairly unlikely to be intermittent. I'd like to get the system stable before I leave on business, I'd hate to ask my wife to reboot the system daily while I'm gone... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crash after applying updates
Try lookinging in /var/log/urpmi.log and the archives of urpmi.log I wonder what could have caused the problem? Let us know when you find out. derek On Monday 24 December 2001 22:10, Russ Kepler wrote: A couple of days ago I updated my Mandrake 8.1 from the mirrors at ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/8.1/RPMS using the Mandrake Update selection in the software manager. Nothing in the kernel was changed as I was putting that off until later, but all the other updates were accepted. Since then, and possibly connected with that action, my system has become unstable, crashing 3 times since the update (as compared 0 times with 1.5 months runtime before). No hardware changes were applied aside from screwing in the video connector. The crash is hard, nothing to do but reboot. I've put a sync() in the background to sync the disks on a 5 second interval to minimize damage and to try and get *something* in the syslog, but nothing comes up. If I could find the logs from the update I'll try and reverse the upgrades applied - anyone know where they're kept? Short of that, anyone have any ideas? It's a pretty standard MSI K7T mob with an Athlon 1.4 processor and an old Diamond Viper video - it's possible something's happened here but fairly unlikely to be intermittent. I'd like to get the system stable before I leave on business, I'd hate to ask my wife to reboot the system daily while I'm gone... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] crash on exit all the time...
Greetings, Mdk 8.1 is up and working (from what I can tell) correctly for the most part. However, it crashes (hangs really) on exit. The last thing I see on the screen is that the eth0 is shutting down (and stays that way until I reset the PC its self with a hard reset --gasp!). I am not sure which log to look at to determine what I haven't done (this system was freshly reloaded from the downloaded MDK8.1 CDs without mods and does this). I am using a 3Com 3c905TX, default settings. The last time I fooled with the settings (I/O and IRQ) linux reported that it couldn't see the device. I am starting to get a little touchy about the dang interface card because it gets corrupted so easily, and I don't know how to fix it. I know a solution is to never reboot, but I don't have a UPS and I do leave my PC off sometimes for a day or 2 (yes, really) so that's sort of impractical. Any helpers out there? I will send configs as requested (try to be specific what you want so I can find it.) Thanks a bunch in advance!! Steve Weltman BTW...I appologize if this email is HTML formatted, I just started using KMail and I don't know how to configure it very well yet. You could tell me how to do this as well if you see that I am in HTML. Thanks!! :) _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] crash on exit all the time...
On Tuesday 20 November 2001 04:13 pm, you wrote: Greetings, Mdk 8.1 is up and working (from what I can tell) correctly for the most part. However, it crashes (hangs really) on exit. The last thing I see on the screen is that the eth0 is shutting down (and stays that way until I reset the PC its self with a hard reset --gasp!). I am not sure which log to look at to determine what I haven't done (this system was freshly reloaded from the downloaded MDK8.1 CDs without mods and does this). snip Any helpers out there? I will send configs as requested (try to be specific what you want so I can find it.) The solutions is very complicated :) you have to backspace 4 characters out of your modules.conf file. I can't remember the web address for where it is, but I copied and saved it as a text file: Error scenario: The computer locks up when shutting down or when stopping the usb service. Why: In certain cases, the usb-uhci module is broken for some usb devices. Solution: Modify your /etc/modules.conf file and change the line alias usb-interface usb-uhci to alias usb-interface uhci. The change will take effect after the next shutdown and will prevent the usb service from locking up the computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Crash report
Hello list I have a couple of crash reports, listed below, attn: Developers! (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... 0x40c2ce39 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #0 0x40c2ce39 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x40c8d8e0 in __check_rhosts_file () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x404994d0 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3 #3 0x40bca008 in sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6 (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...0x40c04e39 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #0 0x40c04e39 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x40c658e0 in __check_rhosts_file () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x404454d0 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3 #3 0x40ba2008 in sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6 #4 0x40ba3530 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6 #5 0x405fc96e in qFatal () from /usr/lib/libqt.so.2 #6 0x40405a2e in KProcess::processExited () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3 #7 0x404069cd in KProcess::processHasExited () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3 #8 0x8b in ?? ()
Re: [newbie] Crash report
Since these appear to be KDE problems, I'd suggest you send them to bugs.kde.org rather than the list. M. On Saturday 20 January 2001 15:59, you wrote: Hello list I have a couple of crash reports, listed below, attn: Developers! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="konqueror-crash.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="KDiskFree-crash.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design
Re: [newbie] Crash report
oh poop Sorry wrong button again! Since these appear to be KDE problems, I'd suggest you send them to bugs.kde.org rather than the list. M. On Saturday 20 January 2001 15:59, you wrote: Hello list I have a couple of crash reports,
Re: [newbie] Crash after hardware change
Mr A V Moisseenkov wrote: Dear experts, I installed Mandrake 7.0 on a powerful computer, where it worked fine. Than I took the hard drive out and inserted it into my home computer, which is a Pentium 120, Cirrus Logic 5446. Now, when Linux boots and goes through all the text-mode messaging fine, it fails to start up KDE and starts blinking in the text mode. What's interesting about the blinking is that it is still possible to login, but the keyboard works only when the display is on (half a second). It sounds like you told Mandrake to start in graphic mode when it boots. Since it was probably setup for a different graphics chipset (or a different resolution), it just keeps trying to restart gdm. flash, text, flash, text sounds about right for the problem. I had kudzu service on and it reconfigured my graphics card, I believe. I am interested in: - Whether I can run KDE without reinstalling the OS You'll need to rerun Xsetup to reconfigure the graphics modes since your home system doesn't support the chipset or mode you originally configured. - How do I stop Linux from starting KDE by default. At the lilo prompt, enter: linux 3 this will boot the machine into runlevel 3 (instead of 5) which is straight text mode. You'll be able to run Xsetup from here. Before installing Mandrake I tried Corel Linux. It managed to reconfigure itself without any work or even notice from my side. It also configured itself automatically for our university network, which Mandrake did not do even after I tried to manually alter the networking configuration. Unfortunately, Corel Linux crashed twice in two days... Interesting distribution, really. It worked well on one machine here, but was absolutely horrible on the other. Now it's gone from both. It was a freebie install anyway, it came with Corel Office 2k. -- Steve Philp, MCSE/MCP+I Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Crash - Please help to rescue some file
Hi, I have a problem with a hard drive, I can no longer boot on my mandrake. Hopefully, I have a second drive where I will install the mandrake 6.1, but I would like to mount my hold partition (/root) trough my new installation in order to save my configuration files and all my download. Do you have an idea how to do that, Thanks for help Franck
Re: [newbie] crash tests....
Yep, a general rule of thumb I learned at college was that if you accessed a byte of data from memory, and it took one second, it would take over a week to do the same from disk!! - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] crash tests Josh McCaffrey wrote: sometimes several seconds to do anything. If I have 60ns EDO RAM, what would disk swapping be comparable to? Well, typical disk accesses are around 10ms is I remember correctly... -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] crash tests....
On Mon, 06 Dec 1999, you wrote: Yep, a general rule of thumb I learned at college was that if you accessed a byte of data from memory, and it took one second, it would take over a week to do the same from disk!! - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] crash tests Josh McCaffrey wrote: sometimes several seconds to do anything. If I have 60ns EDO RAM, what would disk swapping be comparable to? 10ms??? Not my HD. The term "dinosaur" applies to younger and younger 'puters everyday, so my box is ancient (3 yrs old) in comparison to a box purchased a month ago. -Josh Well, typical disk accesses are around 10ms is I remember correctly... -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] crash tests....
From a Unix point of view, you can normally have 255 X sessions of whatever type open at the same time, so head for that if you want. It should be reasonably easy to write a short shell script to spawn an infinite number of windows, record the count somewhere, and when (if) it crashes, you can go back to the log and see how many windows were open when it crashed. A common one, again for Unix but should be transferrable to Linux, is to open many sessions using the 'top' command in each. Top displays a real time monitor of the top ten processes running, and can be an effective load testing tool, as it doesn't do anything to the system, it just watches. However, you may find you're chasing something that doesn't exist. If the reliability is anything like what I've seen so far, you will never see it crash, it will just get slower and slower, until it seems to stop. - Original Message - From: Josh McCaffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 7:41 AM Subject: [newbie] crash tests I had to do it. After having been a Linux user for ~month, I had to do the CRASH TEST on my system. Opening multiple netscape windows should be an easy way to crash a system, right? Right now, I've opened 12 navigator windows, 1 composer window, messenger, Kpackage, Font manager, system information (memory),2 text editors, Mahjongg, CD player, 2 KFM's, and 2 Konsole's, Kppp, and of course, this window here :-) Question: What would be a tougher test? 27 windows seems like alot, but it doesn't seem to be doing too much. Maybe since most of these windows aren't really doing anything but waiting? My free swap is at 52.68/96.43MB's and I still have 1.4/48mb's of free RAM. We'll see what I can do to crash my box... Not that I want to crash my box, just have to see how far I can push it. I'm not blessed w/ a newer, post '97 system w/ a fat HD and tons of RAM w/ a 300+mhz CPU. Later... -Josh
Re: [newbie] crash tests....
I found a good one! Didn't crash my box, just got *really* slow. While I was in WindowMaker, in an Xterm, I typed "start Kde". So, Kde starts, my KDE background and icons pop up, everything looks like Kde, but the icons from WM are still there, and the window boarders are WM, as well as the right click pop up menu. Strange. So I went to bed, and when I was fixing coffee this AM, I could here some disk activity. Hmmm... Took my screen saver 1-2 secs to respond. Apparently, my sys was running entirely on swap, of which only 23mb's was left, so it took sometimes several seconds to do anything. If I have 60ns EDO RAM, what would disk swapping be comparable to? Later -Josh Simon Norris wrote: From a Unix point of view, you can normally have 255 X sessions of whatever type open at the same time, so head for that if you want. It should be reasonably easy to write a short shell script to spawn an infinite number of windows, record the count somewhere, and when (if) it crashes, you can go back to the log and see how many windows were open when it crashed. A common one, again for Unix but should be transferrable to Linux, is to open many sessions using the 'top' command in each. Top displays a real time monitor of the top ten processes running, and can be an effective load testing tool, as it doesn't do anything to the system, it just watches. However, you may find you're chasing something that doesn't exist. If the reliability is anything like what I've seen so far, you will never see it crash, it will just get slower and slower, until it seems to stop. - Original Message - From: Josh McCaffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 7:41 AM Subject: [newbie] crash tests I had to do it. After having been a Linux user for ~month, I had to do the CRASH TEST on my system. Opening multiple netscape windows should be an easy way to crash a system, right? Right now, I've opened 12 navigator windows, 1 composer window, messenger, Kpackage, Font manager, system information (memory),2 text editors, Mahjongg, CD player, 2 KFM's, and 2 Konsole's, Kppp, and of course, this window here :-) Question: What would be a tougher test? 27 windows seems like alot, but it doesn't seem to be doing too much. Maybe since most of these windows aren't really doing anything but waiting? My free swap is at 52.68/96.43MB's and I still have 1.4/48mb's of free RAM. We'll see what I can do to crash my box... Not that I want to crash my box, just have to see how far I can push it. I'm not blessed w/ a newer, post '97 system w/ a fat HD and tons of RAM w/ a 300+mhz CPU. Later... -Josh
Re: [newbie] crash tests....
Josh McCaffrey wrote: sometimes several seconds to do anything. If I have 60ns EDO RAM, what would disk swapping be comparable to? Well, typical disk accesses are around 10ms is I remember correctly... -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] crash tests....
I had to do it. After having been a Linux user for ~month, I had to do the CRASH TEST on my system. Opening multiple netscape windows should be an easy way to crash a system, right? Right now, I've opened 12 navigator windows, 1 composer window, messenger, Kpackage, Font manager, system information (memory),2 text editors, Mahjongg, CD player, 2 KFM's, and 2 Konsole's, Kppp, and of course, this window here :-) Question: What would be a tougher test? 27 windows seems like alot, but it doesn't seem to be doing too much. Maybe since most of these windows aren't really doing anything but waiting? My free swap is at 52.68/96.43MB's and I still have 1.4/48mb's of free RAM. We'll see what I can do to crash my box... Not that I want to crash my box, just have to see how far I can push it. I'm not blessed w/ a newer, post '97 system w/ a fat HD and tons of RAM w/ a 300+mhz CPU. Later... -Josh
Re: [newbie] CRASH!
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Trevor Wilson wrote: A window wasn't responding under KDE, and I couldn't kill it, so I tried to log off and the system stopped responding. I waited a long time and then power cycled it and it managed to boot OK, except now every time it shuts down, "shutting down nfs mountd" fails, and starting up, it can't find "var/lib/nfs/xtab" or something like that, which I think was deleted when it tried to fix the drive. Is any of this a problem? More importantly, what ELSE can I DO if the system stops responding, other than cutting the power? I can't help you the first part, I'm sure others will, but in regards to how to shut down Xwindows if it locks up totally, here is an answer. Ctrl + Alt + backspace will kill the X session and drop you to the command prompt if you booted in run level 3 or back to the sign in screen if you booted in run level 5. It would probably be best to re boot at that time. John Love [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] CRASH!
Andy Goth wrote: A window wasn't responding under KDE, and I couldn't kill it, so I tried to log off and the system stopped responding. I waited a long time and Ctrl+Alt+BkSp should kill the X server. then power cycled it and it managed to boot OK, except now every time it shuts down, "shutting down nfs mountd" fails, and starting up, it can't find "var/lib/nfs/xtab" or something like that, which I think was deleted when it tried to fix the drive. Is any of this a problem? Uh oh... I don't know how to fix this. Someone else? It means the computer was shut down with NFS still running. NFS doesn't like this and does nasty things. Since neither the questioner nor the responder know about NFS, I will assume that if you do not know what it is, you do not need it! Basically NFS is a system that allows for file sharing between computers (like computer A mounts the drive on computer B as if it was local). One of the problems with NFS has been securityit is easy to hack into a computer running NFS unless you know what you are doing. Most likely NFS got installed and started by checking "install everything" or something similar during the Mandrake install. You need to stop NFS from starting. Look for entries in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d and in /etc/rc.d/rc5.d that contain the fragments nfs, rpc and mountd and change them from S to K. Like S15nfsfs -- ../init.d/nfsfs You want to change the above to K15nfsfs etc. Next, you want to go to /etc/fstab and edit out any lines that have nfs volumes mounted. Put in a # sign on the beginning of the line, or erase it alltogether. Lastly, when you reboot the computer, do a ps -ax and see if you have any nfs components running. You WILL see something called nfsiod, this is okay (its the part of the kernel that allows nfs). ps -ax | grep nfs ps -ax | grep rpc ps -ax | grep mount if nothing bad shows up, you have eradicated the beast. Make notes in case you ever want to put humpty dumpty back together again. I am sorry if I cannot be more specific; I have zapped NFS from my system so I am going by memory and not by looking at the actual files and names. If you do not want to reboot the computer, you can change runlevels and back. Say you are in runlevel 3. Go to runlevel one and back to three. prompt# runlevel 3 means you are now in RL 3 prompt# init 1 (computer will do a lot of thrashing, and finally give you a bash# prompt) bash# init 3 (more thrashing and back to run level 3). All of this is best done in console and not in X or you may incur the wrath of Athena, the goddesd of hard rocks. -- Ramon Gandia = Sysadmin Nook Net http://www.nook.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 285 West First Avenue tel. 907-443-7575 P.O. Box 970fax. 907-443-2487 Nome, Alaska 99762-0970 == Alaska Toll Free. 888-443-7525
Re: [newbie] CRASH!
In that situation, if you have X11 starting by default, use Ctrl-Alt-F2 and a console will open before your eyes. You could login as root, then ps aux kill (number of locked process) Or, for a simpler way, don't bother to login, hit Ctrl-Alt-Del and the system will shut down and restart If you have a console coming up by default (getting to KDE after login by typing startx), you can hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to get back to a console and then use Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart the system As for fixing what you have now, if you have a separate partition for /home, move the files to it and reinstall without formatting home, then move your files back. If you have a workstation configuration, save what you want to floppy or tape and then reinstall. It is a lot better not to chance corrupted programs if you can avoid it. Civileme Trevor Wilson wrote: A window wasn't responding under KDE, and I couldn't kill it, so I tried to log off and the system stopped responding. I waited a long time and then power cycled it and it managed to boot OK, except now every time it shuts down, "shutting down nfs mountd" fails, and starting up, it can't find "var/lib/nfs/xtab" or something like that, which I think was deleted when it tried to fix the drive. Is any of this a problem? More importantly, what ELSE can I DO if the system stops responding, other than cutting the power? -- Civileme Say: "One who buys dual scan display soon gains Optometrist for best friend."
Re: [newbie] CRASH!
This isn't windows. To have a system stop responding totally outside of a power failure is beyond my experience. Ihad a motherboard which had an electrolytic cap in the memory power supply (5V) go intermittent, and random bits were flipping, or so Ibelieve. The system did not stop. A LOT of processes were crashing and respawning. Ihave always been able to exit gracefully, even from that. Civileme Trevor Wilson wrote: A window wasn't responding under KDE, and I couldn't kill it, so I tried to log off and the system stopped responding. I waited a long time and then power cycled it and it managed to boot OK, except now every time it shuts down, "shutting down nfs mountd" fails, and starting up, it can't find "var/lib/nfs/xtab" or something like that, which I think was deleted when it tried to fix the drive. Is any of this a problem? More importantly, what ELSE can I DO if the system stops responding, other than cutting the power? -- Civileme Say: "One who buys dual scan display soon gains Optometrist for best friend."
Re: [newbie] CRASH!
Trevor Wilson wrote: A window wasn't responding under KDE, and I couldn't kill it, so I tried to log off and the system stopped responding. I waited a long time and then power cycled it and it managed to boot OK, except now every time it shuts down, "shutting down nfs mountd" fails, and starting up, it can't find "var/lib/nfs/xtab" or something like that, which I think was deleted when it tried to fix the drive. Is any of this a problem? More importantly, what ELSE can I DO if the system stops responding, other than cutting the power? it happened to me a bit ago,and what I did was to go in and unmount the nfs mounts I had set up,then remounted them and it went away control/alt/backspace will do it kill the x session I've found out thanks to the list here,or press cntrl/alt and one of the Fkeys, log in as root,and enter "ps ax" and find out the last process that's listed with a different tty than the one that's listed with "ps ax" after it. then kill that process ie: 891 tty1 x xxx 900 tty2 x ps ax kill 891 That's how I've been doing it,so if it's wrong someone jump in here please! merc.
Re: [newbie] CRASH!
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Ramon Gandia wrote: [...nfs discussion deleted...] All of this is best done in console and not in X or you may incur the wrath of Athena, the goddesd of hard rocks. ^^^ I know, this is the *daemon* of goddesses, right? grin best wishes, richard myers
Re: [newbie] CRASH!
A window wasn't responding under KDE, and I couldn't kill it, so I tried to log off and the system stopped responding. I waited a long time and Ctrl+Alt+BkSp should kill the X server. then power cycled it and it managed to boot OK, except now every time it shuts down, "shutting down nfs mountd" fails, and starting up, it can't find "var/lib/nfs/xtab" or something like that, which I think was deleted when it tried to fix the drive. Is any of this a problem? Uh oh... I don't know how to fix this. Someone else? More importantly, what ELSE can I DO if the system stops responding, other than cutting the power? Ctrl+Alt+BkSp should kill the X server. If X is still working but a window/program stops, you can use XKill. ___ _ _ _ _ / _ \| \ | | _ \\ \_/ / .[ ICQ#: 35256413 ]. | |_| | \| | | | |\ / | 0100111001010110110001101100 | | _ | \ \ | | | | | | | 01100010111001110111 | | | | | |\ | |_| | | | | 0110011100100110110001100100 | |_| |_|_| \_|/ |_| `--[ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]---' http://zap.to/andygoth/ http://andygoth.cjb.net/ -~.,_,.~-*'*-~.,_,.~-*'*-~.,_,.~-*'*-~.,_,.~-*'*-~.,_,.~-*'*-~ Two strings walk into a bar. One string says to the bartender "Give me a beer #G%safdsdfa." The second string says "Pardon my friend. He's not null terminated." -~.,_,.~-*'*-~.,_,.~-*'*-~.,_,.~-*'*-~.,_,.~-*'*-~.,_,.~-*'*-~
