Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-12 Thread Damian G


 I have a few problem with MPlayer.
 
 One I have mdk 82 avifiles as below.
 libavifile0.7-0.7.7-0.20020528.1mdk
 libavifile0.7-devel-0.7.7-0.20020528.1mdk
 avifile-player-0.7.7-0.20020528.1mdk
 Still libavcodec is not taken while compiling.

MPlayer doesn't use avifile at all.

to enable libavcodec for MPlayer, you need to pull
libavcodec from CVS and add it to MPlayer's source tree
before compiling.

( read http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/codecs.html#libavcodec 
 for details )



 
 Sound is not captured  when using v4l device.

i don't use v4l.. sorry, can't help you there.
however, from  http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/video.html#tv-out

Under Linux you have 2 methods to get G400 TV out working:

IMPORTANT: Only Matrox G400DH/G400MAX has TV-out support under Linux, others (G450, 
G550) have not!




 
 I will be thankful if you can reply how to recompress to various formats?
 sample commans with options pl.

there's a lot to it. way too much for a simple email.

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/encoding.html

you will find good explainations and examples there.


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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-12 Thread L.V.Gandhi

On Wednesday 11 Sep 2002 8:35 am, Damian G wrote:
 On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:15:38 +0530

 L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  DivX files can be viewed in PC. But is there any commercial players that
  can be connected to TV

 uhm.. you mean you need a program that plays a movie thru the TV output?

 i don't have such video card, so i might be wrong, but AFAIK MPlayer can do
 this as well.

 just to make sure, take a brief look at www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS
I meant a player like the ones in the market which plays mp3cds and audio cds 
with earphones and vcd connected to a TV.

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RE: [newbie] MP3 ripper - OGG eats MP3

2002-09-12 Thread Mark Stewart

  tell me about it.  i have a portable cdplayer that will read mp3's
  burned to disc and play them.  it is pretty nice, espec. for the price,
  but i would give anything for it to support OGG.  _very_ nice.

 It's something about floating-point integer. OGG requires a player with
 it, which apparently costs money (hardware issue?), and mp3 doesn't. At
 least that's what I think I read once on the ogg-vorbis list once when I
 was researching it. I was interested in setting up a home audio network,
 but the only players I could find were mp3.

Right, this used to be the case but now xiph.org has released their fixed
point decoder: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/index.html. It'll be
interesting to see if this changes the situation at all. It'd be great if it
did. I know I'd go out and buy a replacement for my RIO mp3-cd player...

cheers,
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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper - OGG eats MP3

2002-09-11 Thread Olaf Marzocchi

At 16.57 10/09/2002, you wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Ron Bouwhuis wrote:

  I spent time this weekend ripping my CDs to OGG
  format.  Sound quality is extraordinary and files are
  smaller than MP3.  Just need those tiny pocket players
  to support the format and MP3 would be dead.
 
  Ron.

I agree 152% with you here. I have everything as ogg on my computer now. I
use giFT for downloading (it's like Kazaa, but console and of course for
Linux) where there are quite a few ogg's to be found. Anything I cannot
find in ogg format is usually to be found in a high MP3 bitrate, which I
convert to oggs. Many users are againt this as it's supposed to reduce
quality even more, but I strongly dissagree with that. If I take a 192kb/s
MP3, and re-encode it to +-128kb/s ogg (Quality 4) it sounds just the same,
no matter if I play it though the computer speakers, the expensve
headphones I have attached to the computer, or the sterio that the computer
is connected to!

Probably you don't have very good earing equipment.
NEVER reencode from a compressed file. You'd only add artifacts. Ok, ogg's 
artifacts are very difficult to notice, but they are there.
Whether you can't ear them or not it's a different matter.

This is what ogg's creators say and what it's almost obvious.


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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-11 Thread John Richard Smith

Damian G wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:15:38 +0530
L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

DivX files can be viewed in PC. But is there any commercial players that can 
be connected to TV 




uhm.. you mean you need a program that plays a movie thru the TV output?

i don't have such video card, so i might be wrong, but AFAIK MPlayer can do this
as well. 

just to make sure, take a brief look at www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS



Damian

My Son in law and I have been working on getting our geforce3 TVout to 
work without
much success, you are going to need the Nvidia drivers for a start,in 
addition there are at least
three types of tvout versions of geforce3, some come with  silutaneous 
monitor and TV
display,  and some(in Linux) cannot do simultaneous , and have to have 
the monitor off while the TV is in use and , it is further complicated 
because the screen resolutions for TVout is relatively
low , and I for one, would not wish to have my monitor screen 
resolutions compromised to
enable me to have a working TV output, and so the need is to set up two 
seperate Xwindows
screen outputs one to display the monitor, the other to go via tvout to 
the TV, these (in the Windblows versions) are simultaniously 
displayed.So far we cannot get even anything in
mandrake to display to the tv at all. It's complicated. I guess we will 
have to wait on the experts.

After you get the dual output working it's just a question of using 
whichever app suits your
needs.

John

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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-11 Thread John Richard Smith

dfox wrote:

This app seems to need a lot of optimization, as the RPM packages did
work slower. and to answer your question: nope. i never encoded using



PRMs temd to be conservative sometimes. And mencoder does a ton of
computations. I don't know how long it would take on a reasonably-
powered box with mencoder, but my brother did some dvd encodings with
some Windows software; he said it took about 18 hours to rip a DVD, on
a Pentium 3/700 (I think that's what he has).

  

Damian



  

Using Mencode on a 3 hour full length feature film with my Athlon1800 
takes about 4to6 hours.
At least something in that order. I tend to do it overnight, or set it 
up and go out for the evening.
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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper - OGG eats MP3

2002-09-11 Thread Brian Parish

On Wed, 2002-09-11 at 00:57, Ralph Slooten wrote:

 I use giFT for downloading (it's like Kazaa, but console and of course for 
 Linux) where there are quite a few ogg's to be found.

Ralph,

Do you have a URL for giFT?

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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-11 Thread John Richard Smith

Ralph Slooten wrote:

On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, John Richard Smith wrote:

  

I have downloaded lame-encoder-3.92-3tex.i586.rpm from above, and can 
confirm
that it does work with Mplayer (mine is the CVS version) .



Great... you did recompile MPlayer I'm guessing with the lame RPM, or just 
used a self-compiled/pre-compiled (with another version lame) MPlayer? Umm, 
does that make scence.. hehe, what I mean is after installing this lame, 
did you recompile MPlayer with mencoder, or was the MPlayer already 
installed, thus compiled with another version of lame?

Ralph
  


  

No I just took the old lame lame-20020408cvs-1mdk. off and put
 the lame-encoder-3.92-3tex.i586.rpm  on ,using the usual commands,
 went to mplyayer , encoded a chapter , then played it back in the usual 
way.
As you know I use the CVS version, though it's perhaps a month or so
since I last updated.Otherwise I did nothing with mpl;ayer at all.I did
think I might have to go on the net and update  to get it to find
the newer version but ,no, I suppose it's because it's essencially
in the same old place /usr/bin/lame, that's where it looks for it and that's
where it finds it. I did check before I did this, I didn't want to make it
install in a different place , if possible.

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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper - MPlayer

2002-09-11 Thread Ralph Slooten

On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, John Richard Smith wrote:

 No I just took the old lame lame-20020408cvs-1mdk. off and put
  the lame-encoder-3.92-3tex.i586.rpm  on ,using the usual commands,
  went to mplyayer , encoded a chapter , then played it back in the usual 
 way.

Ok, this answers my question... at least I know it doesn't ;-) Don't worry, 
I will try it myself in about 30 minutes. 

Talking about CVS versions, I cannot compile the CVS versions of Lame from 
2 days ago. Mine is also a month or 2 old, and although there probably 
haven't been that many changes, I descided to test it out for my 
mencoder-dvd-divx-manual. But I can't compile :-( It keeps bombing out 
here when it comes to compiling the frontend, which turns out to be the 
lame binary itself. If I choose --without-frontend, it compiles fine but 
only installs the libs and so on, but no actualy lame binary itself :-( I 
know mencoder would probably work with this, but that's not the point I 
think... at least if someone is going to have the lame installed, they 
should be able to use it too separately.

John, would you mind just trying to ./configure and make a fresh downloaded 
version? No need to install it though, as my question is purely based of 
the fact that I want to know if it's the CVS version or my computer where 
the error lies. If it compiles and creates a lame executable, I know it's 
me ;-)

Thanks
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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-11 Thread L.V.Gandhi

On Tuesday 10 Sep 2002 9:19 pm, Damian G wrote:


 i have used precompiled RPM's for MPlayer once or twice and i have found
 out that the developers were right about them.

 This app seems to need a lot of optimization, as the RPM packages did
 work slower. and to answer your question: nope. i never encoded using
 a precompiled mencoder. i like being pretty much on the bleeding edge
 with MPlayer, and recompile from CVS pretty often. The reason is
 that it evolves so fast...

I have a few problem with MPlayer.

One I have mdk 82 avifiles as below.
libavifile0.7-0.7.7-0.20020528.1mdk
libavifile0.7-devel-0.7.7-0.20020528.1mdk
avifile-player-0.7.7-0.20020528.1mdk
Still libavcodec is not taken while compiling.

Sound is not captured  when using v4l device.

I will be thankful if you can reply how to recompress to various formats?
sample commans with options pl.
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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper - OGG eats MP3

2002-09-11 Thread Todd Slater

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:18:48 -0700
shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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 On Monday 09 September 2002 10:59 pm, Ron Bouwhuis did speak unto the 
 huddled masses, saying:
 
  I spent time this weekend ripping my CDs to OGG
  format.  Sound quality is extraordinary and files are
  smaller than MP3.  Just need those tiny pocket players
  to support the format and MP3 would be dead.
 
 tell me about it.  i have a portable cdplayer that will read mp3's
 burned to disc and play them.  it is pretty nice, espec. for the price,
 but i would give anything for it to support OGG.  _very_ nice.

It's something about floating-point integer. OGG requires a player with
it, which apparently costs money (hardware issue?), and mp3 doesn't. At
least that's what I think I read once on the ogg-vorbis list once when I
was researching it. I was interested in setting up a home audio network,
but the only players I could find were mp3.

Todd


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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-11 Thread Ralph Slooten

On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, L.V.Gandhi wrote:

 I have a few problem with MPlayer.
 
 One I have mdk 82 avifiles as below.
 libavifile0.7-0.7.7-0.20020528.1mdk
 libavifile0.7-devel-0.7.7-0.20020528.1mdk
 avifile-player-0.7.7-0.20020528.1mdk
 Still libavcodec is not taken while compiling.

Umm, ooohhh, scratch_scratch. You start by talking about mplayer, you then 
start talking about libavfile, and then you switch to libavcodec. These are 
3 seaparate things. aviFILE isn't needed at all for MPlayer. It's a total 
different program altogether.

 I will be thankful if you can reply how to recompress to various formats?
 sample commans with options pl.


MPlayer prefers libavcodec, which is not a pre-compiled package, but which 
is simple a part added to the build-root of mplayer while compiling. I 
suggest starting by downloading MPlayer's last release where libavcodec 
should be included, and doing a very long read in the docs folder in 
that file, because what you are asking if for one of us to re-type the 
whole docs folder for you. In the docs you will find examples of encoding, 
info about installing, FAQ's codecs, options and so on.

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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper - OGG eats MP3

2002-09-10 Thread shane

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On Monday 09 September 2002 10:59 pm, Ron Bouwhuis did speak unto the 
huddled masses, saying:

 I spent time this weekend ripping my CDs to OGG
 format.  Sound quality is extraordinary and files are
 smaller than MP3.  Just need those tiny pocket players
 to support the format and MP3 would be dead.

tell me about it.  i have a portable cdplayer that will read mp3's burned to 
disc and play them.  it is pretty nice, espec. for the price, but i would 
give anything for it to support OGG.  _very_ nice.

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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-10 Thread Ralph Slooten

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Damian G wrote:

 On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:12:40 -0700 (PDT)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dfox) wrote:
 
   Has anyone had any luck with compiling and using mencoder (MPlayer)  with
   this lame-encoder RPM? It's not a question of whether you think it will or
  
  It appears people have :). 
  
  I have never tried mencoder - I don't have any dvd hardware on the
 
 uhmm.. no DVD needed to test it, you can try recompressing regular movie files,
 too. i have used it in the past to recompress .MPG files into DivX 5, and
 it works beautifully. i can recompress/change format easier, faster than with
 any other program i have tried ( Adobe Premiere 6 and Ulead Media Studio just to
 name two of them) and the resulting quality ( especially when changing
 resolution/ scaling or converting framerates ) is unmatched.

Hi there Damian,

You used the RPM's from that site, and compiled MPlayer yourself, or did 
you use a pre-compiled MPlayer? It's just that I'm too lazy to test it all 
out due to lack of time. As I said, I am writing a guide how to rip a DVD 
(16:9) to DivX using mencoder / libavcodec / liblame, and although I always 
advise to recompile everything, it's interesting to know if users have 
other experiences with pre-compiled binaries.

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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper - OGG eats MP3

2002-09-10 Thread Ralph Slooten

On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Ron Bouwhuis wrote:

 I spent time this weekend ripping my CDs to OGG
 format.  Sound quality is extraordinary and files are
 smaller than MP3.  Just need those tiny pocket players
 to support the format and MP3 would be dead.
 
 Ron.

I agree 152% with you here. I have everything as ogg on my computer now. I 
use giFT for downloading (it's like Kazaa, but console and of course for 
Linux) where there are quite a few ogg's to be found. Anything I cannot 
find in ogg format is usually to be found in a high MP3 bitrate, which I 
convert to oggs. Many users are againt this as it's supposed to reduce 
quality even more, but I strongly dissagree with that. If I take a 192kb/s 
MP3, and re-encode it to +-128kb/s ogg (Quality 4) it sounds just the same, 
no matter if I play it though the computer speakers, the expensve 
headphones I have attached to the computer, or the sterio that the computer 
is connected to!

From what I have seen there are a couple of players around there that can 
play ogg ;-) ... just I can't remember which :-/ It looked quite cool when 
I saw it (I believe though a /.org article), but it was a bit $$$ for my 
price-range :-)

Ogg has come a long way so far. The only disadvantage I can find now is
that for example in XMMS, bass, trebel and so on can be set with the
equalizer, but this is only for MP3's, and OGG's don't seem to work with
this. I don't have a problem with the ogg sound though, as it sounds a lot
more solid than MP3, but this option would be nice to have ;-) I wrote a
bash script once which I still use to convert MP3's to ogg, and so if you
are a person who always has full tags in the MP3's everything except for
Comment get's taken accross to to the created ogg. You can download it at 
http://tuxpower.f2g.net/mp3conv.php if you are interested.

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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-10 Thread Damian G


 Hi there Damian,
 
 You used the RPM's from that site, and compiled MPlayer yourself, or did 
 you use a pre-compiled MPlayer? It's just that I'm too lazy to test it all 
 out due to lack of time. As I said, I am writing a guide how to rip a DVD 
 (16:9) to DivX using mencoder / libavcodec / liblame, and although I always 
 advise to recompile everything, it's interesting to know if users have 
 other experiences with pre-compiled binaries.
 
 Greetings
 Ralph

Hi.

i have used precompiled RPM's for MPlayer once or twice and i have found
out that the developers were right about them. 

This app seems to need a lot of optimization, as the RPM packages did
work slower. and to answer your question: nope. i never encoded using
a precompiled mencoder. i like being pretty much on the bleeding edge
with MPlayer, and recompile from CVS pretty often. The reason is
that it evolves so fast... 

see ya.

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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper - OGG eats MP3

2002-09-10 Thread L.V.Gandhi

There are very cheap mp3 cd players available in the market. Any idea about 
ogg players?
On Tuesday 10 Sep 2002 11:29 am, Ron Bouwhuis wrote:
 I spent time this weekend ripping my CDs to OGG
 format.  Sound quality is extraordinary and files are
 smaller than MP3.  Just need those tiny pocket players
 to support the format and MP3 would be dead.

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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-10 Thread Roger Sherman

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, L.V.Gandhi wrote:

 DivX files can be viewed in PC. But is there any commercial players that can 
 be connected to TV 

Well, if you have an S video out from your vid card, you can hook that up 
to most TVs, I believe...


 
 On Tuesday 10 Sep 2002 10:20 am, Damian G wrote:
  On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:12:40 -0700 (PDT)
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dfox) wrote:
Has anyone had any luck with compiling and using mencoder (MPlayer) 
with this lame-encoder RPM? It's not a question of whether you think it
will or
  
   It appears people have :).
  
   I have never tried mencoder - I don't have any dvd hardware on the
 
  uhmm.. no DVD needed to test it, you can try recompressing regular movie
  files, too. i have used it in the past to recompress .MPG files into DivX
  5, and it works beautifully. i can recompress/change format easier, faster
  than with any other program i have tried ( Adobe Premiere 6 and Ulead Media
  Studio just to name two of them) and the resulting quality ( especially
  when changing resolution/ scaling or converting framerates ) is unmatched.
 
 
  Damian
 
 

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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-10 Thread Damian G

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:15:38 +0530
L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 DivX files can be viewed in PC. But is there any commercial players that can 
 be connected to TV 


uhm.. you mean you need a program that plays a movie thru the TV output?

i don't have such video card, so i might be wrong, but AFAIK MPlayer can do this
as well. 

just to make sure, take a brief look at www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS



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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-10 Thread dfox

 This app seems to need a lot of optimization, as the RPM packages did
 work slower. and to answer your question: nope. i never encoded using

PRMs temd to be conservative sometimes. And mencoder does a ton of
computations. I don't know how long it would take on a reasonably-
powered box with mencoder, but my brother did some dvd encodings with
some Windows software; he said it took about 18 hours to rip a DVD, on
a Pentium 3/700 (I think that's what he has).

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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-10 Thread L.V.Gandhi

DivX files can be viewed in PC. But is there any commercial players that can 
be connected to TV 

On Tuesday 10 Sep 2002 10:20 am, Damian G wrote:
 On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:12:40 -0700 (PDT)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dfox) wrote:
   Has anyone had any luck with compiling and using mencoder (MPlayer) 
   with this lame-encoder RPM? It's not a question of whether you think it
   will or
 
  It appears people have :).
 
  I have never tried mencoder - I don't have any dvd hardware on the

 uhmm.. no DVD needed to test it, you can try recompressing regular movie
 files, too. i have used it in the past to recompress .MPG files into DivX
 5, and it works beautifully. i can recompress/change format easier, faster
 than with any other program i have tried ( Adobe Premiere 6 and Ulead Media
 Studio just to name two of them) and the resulting quality ( especially
 when changing resolution/ scaling or converting framerates ) is unmatched.


 Damian

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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-10 Thread Ralph Slooten

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, dfox wrote:

  This app seems to need a lot of optimization, as the RPM packages did
  work slower. and to answer your question: nope. i never encoded using
 
 PRMs temd to be conservative sometimes. And mencoder does a ton of
 computations. I don't know how long it would take on a reasonably-
 powered box with mencoder, but my brother did some dvd encodings with
 some Windows software; he said it took about 18 hours to rip a DVD, on
 a Pentium 3/700 (I think that's what he has).

Huh? 18 hours? I have a Pentium3, 800mh/z, and it takes me (under Linux) 
roughly 4-5hours to rip a 2 hour movie, and because I do it twice (for 
better quality) you can add another 3 to that, making a total of 8 hours 
max.

This is of course under Linux, which is faster than my experiences with 
windows but even under Windows it never took 18 hours. It took me 
roughtly about 6-7 hours for a single rip on this same computer.

So yes, it all depends on whay you exactly want to do with your DivX-Rip. 
There are several codecs, several ripping methods and so on. Mencoder rips 
on_the_fly (direct off DVD), whereas others first have to rip all the .vob 
files to the HD first. I use libavcodec as the DivX codec which fom my 
experiences is the best and fastest, producing great results :-)

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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper - OGG eats MP3

2002-09-10 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

I don't think any have been released yet, but many companies have expressed
interest in releasing consumer OGG players. Unlike with MP3, they don't have to
pay royalties to anyone, and OGG is a much better format anyway (in compression
and sound quality).


On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:12:47 +0530, L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There are very cheap mp3 cd players available in the market. Any idea about 
 ogg players?
 On Tuesday 10 Sep 2002 11:29 am, Ron Bouwhuis wrote:
  I spent time this weekend ripping my CDs to OGG
  format.  Sound quality is extraordinary and files are
  smaller than MP3.  Just need those tiny pocket players
  to support the format and MP3 would be dead.


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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-09 Thread Sevatio

Marco Verheul wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm looking for a tool to convert my own audio cd's into mp3 files. All
 suggestions/recommendations are welcome...
 
 Regards, Marco
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-09 Thread Derek Jennings

On Monday 09 Sep 2002 2:18 pm, Marco Verheul wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm looking for a tool to convert my own audio cd's into mp3 files. All
 suggestions/recommendations are welcome...

 Regards, Marco


Grip
It is on your CDs
Out of the box it will rip into ogg format which is better quality with 
smaller files than mp3. Just select ConfigMP3encoder= oggenc


Mandrake do not supply the library needed for mp3 encoding because it is 
subject to a patent, but if you download and install the lame-encoder  RPM 
from here 
ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/Mandrake-8.2/RPMS

Then in grip select ConfigMP3encoder = lame

HTH

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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-09 Thread Raffaele Belardi

grip is good for ripping (it uses cdparanoia) and compressing (I use 
lame). Not as good as EAC for windows IMHO, unfortunately. The feature I 
miss in grip is that it does not signal exactly where it eventually 
encounters an error during the rip process, so you can judge if it is 
fine or you need to do something about it (i.e., use a different CD 
reader). Not an issue if your CDs are all in good shape, though.

Note that lame is not included in the MDK distribution for license 
issues. You need to download the sources from www.mp3dev.org or from 
sourceforge and compile them on your system, but it is really easy.

Somebody also suggested using a real 'free' codec, i.e. Ogg Vorbis.

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm looking for a tool to convert my own audio cd's into mp3 files. All
 suggestions/recommendations are welcome...
 
 Regards, Marco
 




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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-09 Thread Ralph Slooten

On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Derek Jennings wrote:

 Mandrake do not supply the library needed for mp3 encoding because it is 
 subject to a patent, but if you download and install the lame-encoder  RPM 
 from here 
 ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/Mandrake-8.2/RPMS

Has anyone had any luck with compiling and using mencoder (MPlayer)  with
this lame-encoder RPM? It's not a question of whether you think it will or
won't, but if actually anyone has successfully installed it, and used it to
succesfully compile and use mencoder to rip.

Sorry, I would test it myself, but I'm a bit pressed for time at the 
moment. If noone has, then I will have to test it some time soon when I 
have some time.

Any info would be welcome, thanks
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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-09 Thread dfox

 Has anyone had any luck with compiling and using mencoder (MPlayer)  with
 this lame-encoder RPM? It's not a question of whether you think it will or

It appears people have :). 

I have never tried mencoder - I don't have any dvd hardware on the
computer - otherwise I would give it a try :). mplayer does play
video cd's and avi's, which is primarily what I'm interested in
right now.

You probably should search the mailing list archive on MPlayer's
web site (www.mplayerhq.hu) for relevant postings and questions.

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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-09 Thread Damian G

On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:12:40 -0700 (PDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (dfox) wrote:

  Has anyone had any luck with compiling and using mencoder (MPlayer)  with
  this lame-encoder RPM? It's not a question of whether you think it will or
 
 It appears people have :). 
 
 I have never tried mencoder - I don't have any dvd hardware on the

uhmm.. no DVD needed to test it, you can try recompressing regular movie files,
too. i have used it in the past to recompress .MPG files into DivX 5, and
it works beautifully. i can recompress/change format easier, faster than with
any other program i have tried ( Adobe Premiere 6 and Ulead Media Studio just to
name two of them) and the resulting quality ( especially when changing
resolution/ scaling or converting framerates ) is unmatched.


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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper - OGG eats MP3

2002-09-09 Thread Ron Bouwhuis

I spent time this weekend ripping my CDs to OGG
format.  Sound quality is extraordinary and files are
smaller than MP3.  Just need those tiny pocket players
to support the format and MP3 would be dead.

Ron.

--- Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 grip is good for ripping (it uses cdparanoia) and
 compressing (I use 
 lame). Not as good as EAC for windows IMHO,
 unfortunately. The feature I 
 miss in grip is that it does not signal exactly
 where it eventually 
 encounters an error during the rip process, so you
 can judge if it is 
 fine or you need to do something about it (i.e., use
 a different CD 
 reader). Not an issue if your CDs are all in good
 shape, though.
 
 Note that lame is not included in the MDK
 distribution for license 
 issues. You need to download the sources from
 www.mp3dev.org or from 
 sourceforge and compile them on your system, but it
 is really easy.
 
 Somebody also suggested using a real 'free' codec,
 i.e. Ogg Vorbis.
 
 raffaele
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I'm looking for a tool to convert my own audio
 cd's into mp3 files. All
  suggestions/recommendations are welcome...
  
  Regards, Marco
  
 
 
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Re: [newbie] MP3-ripper--Install error

2002-04-06 Thread Todd Slater

On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 14:42:13 +0200
Frans Ketelaars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 18:36:55 -0500
 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
  I get this error when trying to install:
  
  Error: Unable to locate installed Perl libraries or Perl source code.
snip 
 [frans@amd frans]$ rpm -qf /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux/CORE/perl.h
 perl-devel-5.601-7mdk
 [frans@amd frans]$
 
 This is in Mandrake 8.2 but I think also in 8.1 you can just install the
 perl-devel .rpm package. HTH,

That did it! Thanks, Frans!

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Re: [newbie] MP3-ripper (cdparanoia)

2002-04-05 Thread Jesper Nyholm Jensen

Hi,
I haven't installed cdparanoia yet, but just reading about it, it doen't
seem like it encodes the wav-files in the mp3-format, but just outputs the
wav-files? Is this wrong? If not cdparanoia does not live up to my
criteria (input cd, output mp3s), and I would like a reference to an
alternative that does, please.
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Thursday 04 April 2002 21:22, Jesper Nyholm Jensen wrote:
 Hi,
 Where to get?

Well Jesper, if you are om MDK 8.x, I'm pretty shure you've got most
everything already.

To find things on your HD, an easy way (there are scores, of course) is to
issue the command : locate whatever (without the quotes).

To find things on MDK - CD's : run Software Manager, click installable.

To find things on other CD's : shuffle it into the cupholder, then mount it,
and open a file-manager and use it's find-utility.

To find RPM's on the net : open a browser and point it to http://rpmfind.net

Easy, eh ?

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Re: [newbie] MP3-ripper (cdparanoia)

2002-04-05 Thread Jesper Nyholm Jensen

Hi,
I got the answer elsewhere: use cdparanoia to rip the cd, use Lame to
encode. Thanx anyway.
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On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Jesper Nyholm Jensen wrote:
Hi,
I haven't installed cdparanoia yet, but just reading about it, it doen't
seem like it encodes the wav-files in the mp3-format, but just outputs the
wav-files? Is this wrong? If not cdparanoia does not live up to my
criteria (input cd, output mp3s), and I would like a reference to an
alternative that does, please.
--
Jesper Nyholm Jensen

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Thursday 04 April 2002 21:22, Jesper Nyholm Jensen wrote:
 Hi,
 Where to get?

Well Jesper, if you are om MDK 8.x, I'm pretty shure you've got most
everything already.

To find things on your HD, an easy way (there are scores, of course) is to
issue the command : locate whatever (without the quotes).

To find things on MDK - CD's : run Software Manager, click installable.

To find things on other CD's : shuffle it into the cupholder, then mount it,
and open a file-manager and use it's find-utility.

To find RPM's on the net : open a browser and point it to http://rpmfind.net

Easy, eh ?

Kaj Haulrich
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Re: [newbie] MP3-ripper

2002-04-05 Thread Roger Sherman

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Jesper Nyholm Jensen wrote:

 Hi,
 What's a good MP3-ripper? One that just takes a cd as input and
 outputs the MP3s.
 --
 Jesper Nyholm Jensen

My personal favorite is a command line ripper that will rip the CD, query 
CDDB, do all the name change, etc, and convert it to either .mp3 or .ogg. 
It's called Rip, and you can get it from rip.sourceforge.net. 

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Re: [newbie] MP3-ripper (cdparanoia)

2002-04-05 Thread Tom

On Friday 05 April 2002 05:24 am, Jesper Nyholm Jensen wrote:
 Hi,
 I got the answer elsewhere: use cdparanoia to rip the cd, use Lame to
 encode. Thanx anyway.

http://plf.zarb.org/rpm/8.2/i586/notlame-3.91-3plf.i586.rpm

it's called 'notlame' for quasi legal reasons.  There's notlame for 
ML 8.1 at this site too.  Actually there's many files at the PLF that 
can't be included with Mandrake for one reason or another, mostly legal 
B$.   Main site is  http://plf.zarb.org/
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Re: [newbie] MP3-ripper--Install error

2002-04-05 Thread Todd Slater

On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 09:19:11 -0500 (EST)
Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My personal favorite is a command line ripper that will rip the CD,
 query CDDB, do all the name change, etc, and convert it to either .mp3
 or .ogg. It's called Rip, and you can get it from rip.sourceforge.net.

I get this error when trying to install:

Error: Unable to locate installed Perl libraries or Perl source code.

It is recommended that you install perl in a standard location before
building extensions. Some precompiled versions of perl do not contain
these header files, so you cannot build extensions. In such a case,
please build and install your perl from a fresh perl distribution. It
usually solves this kind of problem.

(You get this message, because MakeMaker could not find
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux/CORE/perl.h)

Is building and installing perl difficult or tricky? Will I have to worry
about it conflicting with anything else on 8.1?

Tanks,
Todd

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[newbie] MP3-ripper

2002-04-04 Thread Jesper Nyholm Jensen

Hi,
What's a good MP3-ripper? One that just takes a cd as input and
outputs the MP3s.
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Re: [newbie] MP3-ripper

2002-04-04 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

It's included in Mandrake. If you want a GUI frontend for it, Grip is a good
choice.

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 21:22:26 +0200 (MEST), Jesper Nyholm Jensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,
 Where to get?
 --
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 On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Bryan Tyson wrote:
 On Thursday 04 April 2002 11:23, Jesper wrote:
 
  What's a good MP3-ripper? One that just takes a cd as input and
  outputs the MP3s.
 
 cdparanoia

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